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Yeah, you said to me, Oh my God, girl, the fucking intro. You ready? Yeah, let's go. Hey, guys, welcome back to our top nine. And our special guest for this part is Lauryn's Flatulence.

My oh, is this so called flatulence when it comes out your mouth? I believe so. Oh, I don't know.

I always associate it with farts, learns of the new every day here on the web, but for a long enough staff drop roll rate like subscribe share with the friend. Any more self promotion. Um, shameless promo.

No, I think that's all of it. Oh, start saving your money Fullmer.

You keep saying that, but do we have. Here is the website. I approve the digital version for these samples to get sampled yesterday.

It's very cute. Who's your favorite porn star? Oh, um, just coming in hot. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely Tyler Nixon. We've looked him up before, though.

He's busted. He's a bastard. If you're a big fan of the pod. No, he's not.

He's not busted. Honestly, it was like in college, I feel like when I was really into, like, surfer skater looking dudes and he really he really embodies that. Who is you?

If you're a porn star, you speak me a Khalifa, OK? I feel like that's a common one.

Yeah, we just watch what show very well. Oh, Rami, we're watching Rami and Kleva was in it and I was like, OK, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah. And I feel like Rami acted as awkward as you probably would if you encountered her.

I mean like do. Hey. Your name is. I've actually watched a lot of interviews with her, and I really like her, like her personality. She's funny. Yeah, I'm sure you do. I'm sure you know, I yeah.

I think it was me. I don't like I don't really know. Do you watch porn for the people or like the sex that's happening? I think I'm pretty boring. OK, what does that mean? I kind of like the same cut and dry things, so like I would if I like the person or the channel because they make the same type of content. I just don't want like and it's butt plug Thursday.

And I'm like, well, we're a little bit outside my my my fears.

Your needs. So, so but plug those is not for you.

Well OK. No it's not for me. It's not for you. It's you know these things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Lauren's parents are super excited to see you guys again for Christmas now that I know the plug Thursday.

OK, so small disclaimer we're talking about Perens today.

Yeah, I had a friend who used to call it free prawns and for some reason that just stuck with me forever. Free prawns like prawns. Why? I don't know. I don't know. They just him and his friends called pawn prawns. OK, got it.

And gonna hit some free prawns tonight and he had to like make sure and target the fact that it was free. He was going to pay for it. I don't know.

We just the sentence was always just included free price like that was the, the go to.

I think it's funny because the majority of at least my life up until the last year or two. Yeah. Porn was always considered free, right? Right. Just go get the premium ones now, right. With no ads, you can Jeremy can confirm. You can. You can. That is a purchase that one candidate one could do, one can make.

It's like you do bring, you know, no ads.

You know, it's like it's no, I'm busy to bring you I have you to premium. As I said, no one buys. But I would buy I would buy you two premium.

Have you bought you do premium. No, because they give it to me for free because I'm a creator. All the creator sitting at home that like haven't been given you do premium or like what the fuck.

Once again I had like a really light flow. I never really had issues with boys and they kind of came naturally to me. OK, none of that is that flow true.

But the other things not true anyways. Yeah. I mean, I guess it depends how annoyed you are with ads. I almost feel like ads during porn would be more annoying than anything.

Agreed. That's why I got rid of them. I think for you. How much is it other TIAs. How does it work?

Walk me through it. I actually purchased, I believe, a lifetime membership. Oh yeah. I think they ran it like thinks Thanksgiving.

I think Valentine's Day last year. Oh OK. That makes sense. Yeah. It was a hundred bucks forever. Seven forever. Yeah. Oh that's a really good deal. I know because it's Netflix like thirteen dollars a month.

You might have no idea.

They haven't been hit and credit cards automatically for quite some time.

Yeah I this is, this is off topic of premium subscriptions but I saw a tech talk the other day.

I don't know how I ended up on this like niche topic, but it was a husband and a wife that were trying to rally couples to not watch porn and that porn was something from Satan himself had delivered to the people.

What were they like? Very traditional. No. Religious, no. Oh, no. But like, you know, they were they had hippy vibes.

I didn't, like, do a deep dive into their profile or anything, but super hippie vibes and were like trying to rally for people to be very anti porn.

OK, yeah.

Well, disclaimer, I think the topic for today is I love for those of you who are only on audio, I really need to paint the picture for you right now.

We've got a small little espresso glass that I purchased from home, guys that are so cute that Jerry pushed back on but now loves and he has everything so negative.

Well, it's just such a great purchase. It's such a cute little regret and you should own before and now you love the love, love the espresso glasses. And he's just thought like this really nice put together outfit on.

He's got his good socks on and just like the just bad socks. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean obviously the workout ones, you know, some are Bollier than others but they're workout socks. Yeah. Those are your bad socks.

No they're just meant for anyway anyway.

Just the way that you're, it's so distinguished like. Oh yes. Look at this distinguished gentleman talking about free pronouns today right here, right now.

Would you like to do the disclaimer? Can I get you to. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. This is an emotionally charged topic. Yeah. For some people. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I think it's important that although we are personable and share our opinions truthfully to make light to the fact that, you know, some people probably do, you know, suffer or have some issues with this. Oh, I don't mean to make light of that.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is just like an open, honest discussion of our opinions and our experiences with things like porn and and only fans. But yeah, in no way, shape or form. Disclaimer we are doctors or experts or professionals.

Well, I'm pretty. I literally I fucking knew is coming.

I set you up so that I could eat it up. I picked it up and you hit it, you hit it, make it seem like a lot more experience.

I mean but the point is it was it's been requested about fourteen dozen times.

Yeah. And so here we fucking are, here we are kicking off.

OK, so hot question. That might be a little uncomfortable for, for those of you. And I'm going to challenge you to step outside the comfort zone in the comments today.

Is it OK to watch porn while you're in a relationship, yes or no.

And you can give as much context as you want.

If you even want to want to relate the answer in emojis, go for it. People really seem to like that.

This one, we won't be in this one yet. No, it's going to put you on blast. But we love reading the comments was a little selfish for us. But let us know.

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I mean, I just know that our audience is practicing safe sex. So, I mean, No.

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I feel like actually let's start, let's start easy. Let's start easy.

OK, what's, what's your opinion and what do you think about one partner in a relationship, liking and commenting, saving whatever it may be, interacting on social media with um, with whatever the gender they attracted to is profile. Like in general, yeah, yeah, Steve likes women. Yes, Steve follows hot women, yes, Steve comments and comments. Steve commonly interacts or engages with in some capacity with hot women's profiles.

Yes. In a relationship while Steve is in a relationship. Well, would Steve be comfortable liking or commenting or doing whatever he's doing in front of his girlfriend?

Oh, I don't know. You'd have to ask Steve. Well, that's the difference right there.

OK, walk me through it. I mean, it's one thing where Steve follows Cindy, Nicole and Jessica, Sarah and Steve follows those folks. And there's a relationship that happened historically or previously or there's a bigger story there that gives context to that person. Right.

That that would be a negative piece of the girlfriend found out that would need to either be discussed or probably put some space between them. Right.

Like an ex-girlfriend, an ex hookup or someone that they've had drama with in the past, like some kind of personal connection that ended in a not so great way.

Right. Or ended in a fine way. And there's nothing to there's no reason to have any issues there in security because there is an end to that story. And it's already been talked about to make it like a bigger point, like, I guess like more simple. Do you need to hide what you're doing? Right.

Right. If you feel guilty about it, it's probably not. Right. Right. And it's you know what? Actually, I take that back because I feel like there's some dudes that I know that are just like recklessly liking hot girls, photos like and I mean, you see it and take talks all the time.

I feel like where girls are, like, finding funny ways, like they'll be they'll see their boyfriend and there's a mirror behind them and they're just scrolling through hot girls, liking, liking, liking, heart, heart doubled up, doubled up.

And I feel like some guys don't feel guilty about it.

You know what to I feel bad for the younger generation, not so bad, but I just feel like there's probably different struggles than we face because there's so many attractive people, so many attractive people in the world. And social media feels like it puts them at your fingertips.

And when you're 15 and insecure as fuck and you have your first boyfriend, first girlfriend, whatever it is like, I feel like it would be so nerve racking, but I'd be so insecure.

You know, it's like if you find your boyfriend, like looking at other hot 15 year olds that you think are pretty and prettier than you like, I just feel like I'm so glad that I was the generation before that.

Not a present, but also. The only reason that I think that this is it is OK is if you're in a situation where the girlfriend is going to be upset about that, as long as she knows what's going on, you don't mean right. Like the relationship is two sided. If you have someone who if you're in a relationship with someone who's incredibly self-conscious about X, Y and Z, I probably wouldn't go out and find other girls who had X, Y and Z in the girl's perspective and go and just double click, double click, everything that they post.

Right, right, right, right. Yeah. So it's a situation I knew I knew is coming.

I knew it was coming, you know, but like it is, I have been in relationships in the past where I would.

Never be as blasé about the people I follow or the things that I would say or the things that I would like through a like to because everything was loaded, right.

And it wasn't I was not healthy. Don't get me wrong. And I don't think that every healthy relationship should have the like prerequisite of being able to like and talk and do whatever you want you to anything. No, but what I am saying is that there has to be a communication and understanding layer there. Right? That is right.

Like if you're both insecure about it and that one little piece of like not liking random hot girls, hot guys, whatever it may be, photos makes your relationship healthier, then go that route, right?

Yeah. All right. What are your thoughts?

I mean, yeah, I think I think I fully agree.

I think it's situational and it's it's dependent on you know, I think to I think if there's an insecurity piece there, it probably runs through a lot of other factors of your relationship.

And I think if you can't communicate your way through that, I think it's tough because social media is so prevalent in everyone's life now, for the most part, that it's not something that you can really just like, admit.

My favorite part of the guys that, like you and me are friends with that. Like, you know, I've broken up with their girlfriend or ex-wife six months ago, a year ago, two or three years ago. And every fucking picture I see that the ex posts, the other ex is and like, yeah, bro, literally happened an hour ago with our friends.

Yeah. Yeah. And so and that's what's hard, too, is that it's a public facing thing. So it's like it's almost the optics of optics. It's the optics. Exactly. Yes. Because like when we saw our friend liking his ex-girlfriend, spota were like, oh, I was like, you got a new girl now. So like, what are you doing? Like in this girl's photo? But like, it probably is just like they ended on good terms.

They're friends now. It's totally fine, but we're like, oh that he's had that he's hacked.

I mean, from an optics perspective, I'm big on optics there. I would probably think twice about liking something based off of what someone who doesn't know the situation would look at that and think more. I'm probably a little bit more cautious on that. No, I'm 100 percent more cautious on that than I am. Oh, if I like this picture of Hot Girl and Bikini learns to be mad at me, there's never like I have no issue because I don't think if you like a hot girl in a bikini today.

No, no, I would not like it, like especially if it was a good friend of mine. Moreover, because not everyone in the world and we've run into this before knows that me and girl and Bikini are friends. Right.

Right. Yeah, no. And this is like a weird thing that a small pool of people will relate to because it's more of like an influencer problem. Yeah.

But it's like obviously there's a fan base and a viewer base.

Their viewership that is is concealed that as well. And so, for example, Jeremy, when he was in music, used to work with a bunch of influencers who dabbled in music, especially when, like, the roast yourself era was popping.

And so there are lots of pre-existing relationships that were there long before I came into the picture.

And I want to and I want to specify to like existing friendships.

And so it's like if a mutual friend is a lot of them are mutual friends that I've known separately from you as well.

And it's the optics. It's the optics. And it's so hard. You have to be like, OK, like if a friend that has no context sees this, what does it say?

Sucks, it sucks, but I know I does something so simple as a double tap can come with so much and it's a pain in the ass and there are probably a handful of girls that I specifically will think to myself, there are too many fans out there who of of this girl or of just like YouTube or in general who are looking for reasons to dig up drama and not stay away from it.

You know what?

Actually, this is this is like a weird thing that I would never talk about anywhere else except for the part I feel like I had a girl almost every single day, messaged me a copy and paste message saying that Jeremy was liking so and so's photos and every single day, which I was, which would you would you was. And so this girl was someone that he literally grew up with who's like eight years younger, that they knew through like whatever it was like music.

Music grew up in the same hometown, whatever, like literally the most like just like genuine pre-existing friendship from your past. And this girl was so adamant on blowing your cover and outing you to me and just like trying to stir up all the shit.

But it's like, where does that come from? I mean, I think the intention behind it is good. Like they probably are just they think that they're protecting me. Is it good? I mean, I don't know.

I can't imagine. It's so fucking weird.

Let me get in your business. Yes. And assume that I know so much about your personal life. Yeah. That I'm going to insert myself via the Internet when we ever met. I have met your boyfriend, your girlfriend or whatever. And I'm going to, like, flag this for you.

Yeah, I mean, I would do one thing if you were out in public and you saw someone's boyfriend that you knew was together and you took a picture of it, maybe like even that is shady as fuck.

Yeah. But I mean, like something so public as a like on someone's photo, like this girl was determined to start some shit.

Eventually I just messaged her back and I was like, yo, honestly, I was like, this is a situation. Please stop. I like you. Just stop. Please stop. Yeah, I don't know.

All right, let's let's dive into something a little heavier and heavier. I mean, I don't know.

I just feel like Instagram is like the latest version of not I mean, I guess softcore porn.

I mean, it's becoming that. It's becoming that. Yeah, I there was actually just I was listening something where you now on Instagram can't push your boobs together while you're topless, but you can cover your boobs.

Interesting. Yeah. It's a site for guys and girls. I don't know if you. That's right. Get so if I take my shirt off and I push my boobs together. Yeah.

Yeah. You get taken down, you get flagged, you can hold, you can hold because that's ah I got some great powers and expression.

I mean these things are, they're basically the same size as mine. All right. OK, back onto the porn side. Have porn is so commonly watched.

Um I would say it's like a third of the internet. Yeah.

A third of the internet actually I have a crazy stat but while I looked at up what do you think?

Is it OK to watch porn when you're in a relationship.

Yes, but. If and only if it's something that isn't a secret from your significant other. Right, right. And so to me, pouring in like anything in moderation and also but like, I'm sure like is is it OK to drink wine in a relationship? Well, sure. Are you getting shitfaced every night and it's impacting your relationship negatively? Well, no. Is it OK to smoke in a relationship? Probably, except for if you're getting stoned and not going to work and not picking up the kids, all these things.

Right. It's just like just like with everything else, that's an indulgence. It has to be something that is in moderation. And if that thing is starting to take over your life negatively impacting other sides of it, then no. Right. But that's not because it's in a relationship. That's because it's negatively impacting your life.

I like the comparison to like weed, alcohol, all of that.

That's it's the same thing and something that, you know, you can enjoy in moderation and can even add, I would say to a lot of situations.

I know a lot of couples that like to watch porn together.

Yeah, that one is weird for me, but I tried that once and we're like, yeah, it's not it's not really. You know what? We gave it the old college try.

Yeah, we have the old Koshy. We gave it the old college try. I really do think there's there's a lot of of pros to porn like I feel like especially walk us through it craft girl.

I mean craft girls fucks.

No, I just think that there's so much that we don't know about our about ourselves, like when you're growing up, you know, and like obviously like post legal age to watch porn. But you can learn so much about yourself, like what you're into. And it's like I feel like there's so many I feel like we get so many messages to people who have like, never been a relationship, still a virgin, having had their first sexual encounter or whatever.

And I think that it's like it's not a textbook, but it's kind of you can just learn so much from the Internet.

And I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a ton of shit that you should you should not you should unlearn. You should unsee. You should be because guide that you ever saw.

But I do think that it helps you, like, explore what you're into. Right. And maybe even your sexuality. Right.

Yeah, I think there's lots of ways to if you keep finding yourself clicking the other tab and going mad, I sure like this stuff. Yeah.

Like maybe it might be an indicator. Maybe, maybe you love but Thursday maybe you like Bob Thursday maybe you like. I'm so glad the title for this episode.

I know but there's a here can be monetized. No but like to to be clear though like I'm very blasé about. Yeah I think it's fine. It's fine. It's fine because it's fine for us. Right.

But the difference here is the guy girl, anybody who is turning to that outlet instead of their significant other for sexual gratification, or they would rather spend time with porn. And that that's a problem. That's a problem for sure. I mean, if I was sitting downstairs just going through Jurgen's bottles and never wanting to have sex. Yeah. Did you not get the joke?

Was that, you know, I got that the lotion. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought it's going to be funnier than it was. Yeah. It didn't, didn't deny. I mean like I got it and I accepted it but I didn't, it didn't get well it's tough.

If I was going through the Jurgen's bottles and not wanting to have sex with you.

It wasn't funny because I know you don't use Jurgen's. I don't answer. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I was funny. I was like, yes, I. I don't mean that it wasn't authentic. Yeah. Fuck. Sorry.

Anyway, in this hypothetical world where I used Jurgen's and I didn't wanna have sex with you, but I was right only utilizing that pornhub premium subscription, that would be a problem.

I think also too I, I have friends who are in relationships where the sex drive is just not quite balanced.

And whoever has, you know, the higher sex drive I think turns to porn to help.

Not me. It's not the right word to to balance it. You don't even know they're able to, you know, do their thing as many times as a daily supplement to supplement supplement.

But I think that that I don't know. No, no. Because that means replace. That's not the right word. I don't be. Yeah. But I think I think to meet their needs. Right.

Because I feel like that that's not annoy the others. No, no, no. Yeah. It's exactly to not annoy the other person. Right.

Or like if someone's going through like a really busy phase in work, you know, I mean like sometimes it's like you just need to go do that instead. Yeah. And that's OK, because I think that almost brings harmony to the relationship. You know, if you need to help balance it out, that can be one of the ways to kind of help get you there.

I think storytime I remember always in college in particular, I would always try to oh, I can't wait for this.

Mm. How to use the right words. I have a question.

So my college experience, my dorm rooms, we all had our own individual rooms and we had a common area like living room and kitchen and bathroom.

But I feel like in the States it's super common and like a lot of universities and colleges have one room, two bedrooms, two beds, sorry, one room, two beds. How do how do people masturbate in that situation?

You just wait till they're. They're going to class, you quickly learn their schedule quickly, you learn on a bus and not real quick. Oh yeah, I guess.

OK, you know, when you say it so eloquently, we had a sign on the boy's bathroom door of the showers, the communal showers that they wanted boys to stop masturbating in it because it was like fucking up the drainage situation.

Oh, yeah, but but that's, I think, where that comes from. Like, one room, two beds are so fucking gross, but like, that's Piccone.

All these 21 year old dudes, these 19 year old guys, like, yeah. I mean, I get it.

I get it. I just can't imagine being the person typing that out, going to the printer, taping it on the door, being like, what is my job?

But honestly, anyway, I digress. The point I was telling was so. Yeah, your story. Go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead.

I would would purposefully find time prior to going out. Right. To alleviate any twenty one year old Jeremy or horny decisions. OK, by trying to like clear that out ahead of time, certainly I certainly did not work but there was the intention was there. Yeah. Yeah.

I actually know a lot of male actors who before they do any kind of like sex scene or even like a making out scene that that could arouse them. Right.

They'll go jack off beforehand because they they want to just like not provoke any kind of awkward moment when there's Dick is up against the other person's leg, you know, but the ordeal is just so long a whole hour as the day.

I just I don't make out.

Yeah.

OK, so this is kind of a new thing for our generation as well, um, especially in relationships and like making the dynamic changing the dynamic of just like dating and stuff.

Only fans only are so crazy popular and personally, like I'm an advocate for the platform. I think it's I think it's fucking sick.

But what do you think about subscribing to people's only fans when you're in a relationship situation?

All too well, I mean, one of those things where if you're subscribing to me. There there should be boundaries that are set, either of you as you as an individual, because you have the self-control to do that or you have an understanding with your partner. Right. Right. The sketchy thing would be, are you subscribing secretly? Would you would you if your partner asked, would you have to lie about it, would you to lie the way that you use the platform?

Right. Because I'm all for marketplaces that put boundaries and places to keep people safe.

Right. Right, right.

I think only plan is basically just like another platform that offers similar things as any kind of like porn website, except you're supporting the individual and obviously only fans takes a cut. I think it's 20 percent, which is actually like very standard management fee in L.A. anyways.

So I think, like, that's that's pretty fair with the market that has to pay. Paid the bill. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. YouTube takes way more.

YouTube takes Winmar, YouTube takes an old Fadal chunk of that anyways, i.e. the only thing that I think is is different is that only fans has so many creators that are very small and can be so much more accessible that I don't and I don't know anyone personally that's done this, but I feel like it would be very easy to find them on social media and connect with them almost on a more micro.

I don't know the only field that I know. I feel like I know people that only fans that are like huge, Tanne, who are huge and like are very like has a team working on that day.

Right. And I know people that have small followings on it. Yeah. That like I've known for decades. Right. Right. And the ones that I feel like are on the smaller side are very cryptic and private and like have like layers in place to keep them from interacting with them as like they're themselves. Right. Like a pseudonym. But I'm sure that's not the case for everybody.

Right. Right. And so I feel like that just like opens up a whole other realm of someone going and doing something like in private that's like sketchy that they feel guilty about.

And so it's like subscribing because I mean, I think it'd just be like a weird dynamic if, like, you subscribe to someone on only fans and then you followed their Instagram and responded to like, oh, I don't know, it just feels so much more accessible, I guess.

Well, there's a time and a place for everything. And you trying to, like, find and cross those boundaries like I was talking about is where things get into trouble. Totally right.

And I think it's it's hard because I think there's like. Because it comes with a sense of intimacy and personal, whatever that is, I think it's very easy to overstep those boundaries. So I think it's that individual's job and responsibility to a degree self regulate. It's not like you're going to, like, call your ex, you're going to call your girlfriend or boyfriend.

But, hey, is it weird if I watch this video or would it be cool if I knew that? Of course, you're not too much communication. Too much. Too much. You're not going to do that. Yeah. Sheryl Lee fans account like. Right. Yeah.

I got to say, I saved a real good with today. Makes you watch it later.

I bet it's just all just like, wow, that's not what I did not know what I mean to go OK.

But I mean I just think like are you the marketplace is there to create boundaries that keep people safe or are you trying to circumvent that? And that's a problem. If you're not, you're probably OK. Yeah, yeah.

No, I totally agree against situational if it works and the communication is there in your relationship and also, like, are you able to because people get similar to gambling and similar to anything. Right. Like you can get addicted to it and you lose track of. Oh shit, I'm, I'm too much in. Right. I feel you lose touch with reality, OK.

So here comes my next question. And this you know, you've got you've questions prepared. Yeah. Yeah.

I did a little research because I wanted to go I wanted to know about only fans, like more of like the back end of it and just like what the rules and regulations around it are, because it's kind of a new platform.

OK, so do you think and I feel like this is the most common anti porn statement that I see, like those hippies on tech talk that I saw.

This was I did a little deep dive through the comments just to see what people were saying, because it was it was war. It was war in the comments. Well, people are very charged by it.

Polarizing, polarizing topic for sure. And so do you think that porn creates like unrealistic fantasies and scenarios for people who watch it?

Probably, yeah.

And but. Just like anything else can't, right?

I mean, if you watched any movie ever, including Disney movies or even like pro sports, right, you're going to be like it's it gives you a false sense of how the real world is right. Just because you can find some program or some piece of entertainment that shows you that something is possible does not mean it's possible for everybody. Yeah. Here's where I this is like I like serious, but also it's like something I understand. I think that I don't know what age I discovered bored by any means.

But like I think growing up or like being in college. Right. I think that there's certainly an air of unrealism of like that's not real. That would never happen. That's like fantasy. I think eventually, to a degree, you almost learn by seeing things that aren't necessarily a part of your normal life, that like real life, you see things in real life where you see things in porn.

I think both.

I think you discover the more you know and the more you learn. And like I'm sure the most traditional of of Christians and people that are very spiritual, obviously, like they have their own beliefs. And that's very much aside from that. And they don't want to partake in that at all. I understand that that's your that's your belief. I grew up in more Sunday school services than than most I've worked at churches. I totally get that. I understand that.

That's that's that's a belief system on the other side of that, like it is real world, things happen. And when you go to college, this shit is very much part of the upbringing. And I think you have to be able to kind of draw the line in the sand for yourself. So, like, this is fantasy, this is entertainment, this is real world.

And where do I fit into that? Right. Right. I mean, I think that's a great escape. That was a bit of a tangent. My oh, no, no, that was I like to hear that opinion for sure.

I think this is on a much less serious note. I think that I had unrealistic expectations for my body almost.

I think every guy in the world can agree with that. Like when I not even in like the size of shape of like boobs and ass and stuff like that.

I literally was just like, oh, mom, if you're listening, I'm just maybe maybe just just having sex with such a struggle for me for so long when I was like, first starting to be like sexually active and I just like in sex it just like in each of three dicks.

And they're all at one time. And I was like, oh my God, I'm sorry. I'm how did how did so mine but yours. And I was so I was like, I just don't think that we have the same.

You have a vagina. Your vagina does that.

I don't, I don't understand. I don't understand.

And I'm for the first time I saw fisting video doesn't everybody.

Oh, my God. And that's the shit that was me barely being able to fit like a average size dick in me. And and just like someone's able to ram a fist up there. And I'm like, I'm sorry. We all have our own talents. I guess.

I guess it's like the person of the party who was like, I could put my fist in my mouth.

Oh, actually, Romi can put her fist in her mouth. That's right. Because that's Romi Cruz. I mean, it's a good party trick and then rams her fist in her mouth that you open your mouth.

Yeah. She really good for cow. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh my God. Yes.

It wasn't like I was like, oh, why doesn't my body look like that. It was more like why does it my body do that.

Right, right, right, right.

And I also feel like it's like you can watch there's so many different categories of porn to that.

Like when something feels so foreign to me, I'm like, oh yeah, this is not something I'll ever encountered.

But I wish that there was a better way to I don't personally know how to go about this. Like someone who speaks for a living and talks about things that are slightly uncomfortable all the time, money and people are always uncomfortable about like negotiating. I wish and I'm sure that when I have a kid, I will be equally as clueless as to how to go about this. But like, I'm going to go out on a limb that every guy. No, no, no.

I'm going to say a bold statement. Every guy I've ever met has watch porn. OK, just it's just a bold statement like has stumbled upon it at some point. Right. So if every guy or, you know, ninety nine point nine percent of guys that I come in contact with in my nearly 30 years in the world has some experience with porn growing up, why would it be that parents are so incredibly like hammer down about it is bad, you cannot watch it.

It is terrible and there's no room for it.

Well, I think that falls in the same category is when you're in sex ed in school and they're like, if you have sex, you will get pregnant and die.

Right. I'm not sitting here encouraging parents to go show porn to their thirteen year old adult. Right? Not not at all. No. Condoning that. That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is the fact that it is there, it exists and you have the ability to kind of go and see that whenever you'd like because it's the Internet's free place. You can probably cover your tracks, too. So the biggest challenge or hurdle? I think that for a parent in particular, and this is to be obviously we don't have like first hand experience with, but like as a guy who has seen porn and every single guy I've ever come in contact with ever has some experience or more experience or at least at some point in time checked out porn.

The common denominator, I think, for the folks, I think who are a little bit too invested, invested or. I don't know where that line is, is the folks that feel like they had to hide early on or weren't able to know how that tool kit works every time they went to that place, it was dark, it was bad, it was a sin. And even dabbling in it for the first part was was so taboo that you might as well what else is out there doing something bad.

And it's like I get the slippery slope there. And of course, I think the obvious answer from my mother would be, well, then I watch it at all. I get that. Sorry, Donna, that the point is it's just like for people that are trying to, like, figure themselves out and learn something from it or an experience, I think that it would be nice to know that, like turning on PornHub and going a couple of categories you're not going to, like, combust into flames as a sinner like Satan's not going to come out of the earth and swallow you.

Right. But like, well, I almost feel like mainstream media, like 50 Shades of Grey like that with some fuckin hardcore shit. And like that's not a porn category that personally I would venture into.

Right.

So it's like almost seeing that is like more polarizing than anything that I've seen in porn, aside from that one fisting video.

And like it's like you're going to encounter that no matter what. So you might as well have some kind of guidance. And I don't know what that looks like.

I don't know. Either way, you really don't know. Like, there's there's no good way.

You know, what I was like as a as a woman, I almost feel like I would love if parents sat down because I'm straight they're they're straight boys and we're like, this is degrading. Never do this.

You don't mean like that's that's like because I mean, like sometimes I'll watch porn and there will be something that happens that I'm like, absolutely the fuck not like it just makes me make my stomach turn.

I'm like, that's so degrading and there's so much of that, there's so much of that.

And it turns my stomach and I wish someone's fucking mom was standing behind them being like, Tommy, if you ever do that, I will.

I will.

And that's that's like what I wish the parenting and education was like, because then they're like, OK, OK, maybe I won't ever try that because I bet I bet there are people who have gone and seen that and tried that in real life.

And and it doesn't go the way that it went in the porn for them.

I'm just thinking of like all of like the the false narratives that like guys write up in their head if they experience any of like the the babysitter, the stepmom's like you.

Those are those like stories that porn like totally glorifies into like the the sex and it's porn.

It's insane. What struck porn. Stuck porn. Stuck porn. What do you mean stuck porn.

I learned about stuck porn on listening to David Dobek Jason views. OK, it's when someone gets stuck somewhere. Yeah. And the person that comes in helps them out. Has sex with them first.

Oh look in Kingsman we were just watching Kingsman the Princess and then Aggy came in.

Well no no no. This is more like oh I'm doing the laundry. I got caught in the laundry now I got Imola.

I'm stuck in the laundry room in the dryer. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah I see.

OK, but also like like I feel like the mainstream version that is like elevator. The elevator breaks and then they fall in love and they fuck in the elevator.

Is that Zogbaum. No, that's not like porn, but they're stuck in the elevator. No, no. Someone's literally stuck. But no, it's too wide, so but you're losing, like, physically lodged in something anyway, the whole point of this was like at any point in time, if Lauren's ass literally got stuck in the dryer and I came from behind and was like, oh, this is a good time, I'd be single, fucking single like that.

Right. And that's reality. Can you imagine just like, hey, what's going on? What the fuck are you doing?

I'm like debit card I one you fuck. Oh yeah. Yeah.

So someone someone needs to educate the viewers of stuc porn and and also the stepmom babysitter relm right at that ninety nine point nine nine percent of the time is not reality.

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Do you think Snapchat made Snapchat knowing that it would be like the biggest nude sender ever, like, do you think that they had to have like someone had to be like, oh, this is great for sending nudes.

I mean, we know one of the first 50 hires who was on the product engineering team there who confirmed that. Oh, shut up. Really? Yeah, I mean, it was dick pics for sure. Oh, I mean, my God. He said that like. A friend of mine, very close, was very much like he was at Apple or Twitter and heard about SNAP and liked the idea, whatever, it was very much like I'm going to a startup that is specializing in dick pics that disappear after 10 seconds.

My God, it wasn't. It was they always had ideas. And bigger than that, like the general consensus, there was like we're kind of making disappearing famous pictures of disappearing Petersburgh.

To be fair, they all have to have a penis. Picture that anyone wants is one that disappears. Here is like disappearing. Hey, real quick disclaimer, guys. Your dicks are ugly.

Don't Adam doesn't like it if she asks, confirm like seven times. Right. And just make sure it's ugly.

It's ugly. It's it's a guys know you dig through ugly.

Every guy right now with are three percent male listeners are like me. I thought I kind of had a you know, you know, she, you know, she don't have. No, no, no. I said nobody fucking nobody wants to say yeah.

I mean she's appeasing you ensure my God, it's so great now and. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

I mean like I feel like every time someone has a leaked nude, especially from like the GenZE age, it is always from Snapchat.

And it is isn't it. And OK, like I totally understand that they were like, OK, we're going to give you a notification, if so screenshots it.

But it's like once it's been screenshot it, it's still fucking screenshot it like now I just know that it's been screenshot id also like working in tech.

If it hits a server it can be cached. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. The cloud is not, it's not a cloud, it's somebody else's computer. Right. Just so everyone knows, like when you send a newbie it hits a server and then that server hits your phone, you ping it so it has to live somewhere, it goes somewhere.

So if it is a tangible medium, it is tangible. It can be found again, I assure you.

Right, right. You're right within, you know, a sea of worldwide other dicks, but it can be found again.

What a visual, a sea of dicks, all the colors of the world's dicks. That's so nice to be a nice piece of art.

But the living room, I don't you know, I don't know. I am doing a little bit of redecorating, but I don't know if that's the the missing piece to our our aesthetic, you know.

But what's funny is I remember Snapchat like coming out and thank God a Snapchat came out in college for me. Yeah. Not in like high school or middle school because I am sure the amount of like stupidity. Oh yeah. Goes on.

I just thinking like I had had Snapchat in high school, like what would I have done. I probably would have got a lot more dick pics, probably got a lot more dick pics. Yeah.

Yeah. And like I see like a friend's younger sister, we've mentioned this before, like talks exclusively to boys on Snapchat. Yeah. Talks exclusively to people that she's interested in and also friends.

And it's like it's like three words on, it's like typed over like a picture of like the corner of like the one eighth of her face and like it's like sends pictures with captions all the time back and forth.

That's like interest.

I know if we have any younger viewers, please confirm that or deny because I'm dying to know.

But I think it's really fucking weird. But I love that for you if it works.

Yeah. We're showing OK bloomers. Yeah. No use whatever. No, but that's so interesting because I feel like it literally is made.

I just wanted to, I just needed to confirm that they knew what they were creating. Yeah.

Also just to, just to circle back on that, if you send and take whatever either of the two nude pictures and post it somewhere, whether it be on Snapchat or only fans or Twitter, Instagram shit on the Internet lives for ever, it lives forever because I am all about body empowerment. Fucking if you love your body and you want to show it, fucking go for it. I'm all for it.

But just remember that it will live somewhere forever, forever, forever.

And there's and there's so much the world that's so progressive now and like it would never affect if you got a job at some companies. And it's just something that you need to keep in mind and make sure that you are conscious of what you're posting and just that you're consenting to knowing that you are not in control out of that photo anymore.

So passionate about people protecting their nudes and their their bodies just just beating shit up in the podcast room.

Got it. Great. No, but it's true. If you posted somewhere, even if it's on your phone like a I, I hate to tell you evidence connected to the Internet sector of the Internet, it is completely hackable. Absolutely. It's oh my God, it's no one's a hack. You they will hack you. So it's just like be smart. It's going to be smart. You probably should go to a bunch of your shit on your iCloud when we get down with this.

What do you know?

I don't I don't take notice. Next topic, genuinely, any new that I've ever taken and usually is for, I haven't got one. Yeah, it's just my friends being like, yo, my ass looks fire in this new bathing suit.

And I send a photo and it's just like mostly butt cheeks or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. It's mostly that. And you know what? If that leaked Phuket or some other good batiks, like the most like exclusive and celebrity photographer that I know. Yeah. Will do like boudoir shoots for like women for like their husband for like their. What's the book called When you go talk about the nudes and then give it to your husband before you're married? Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, Spolar, you're not getting one of those.

The whole point is conversation. That's the whole point of this podcast.

And he does it with Polaroids. Oh, I love that specifically because you can't make a copy of it.

Yeah, well, even think about because someone was like, oh, well, look, you could just take them on disposable cameras. Like someone has to fucking sit there and develop that.

You don't think, yeah, you're doing the hottest of all topics today. We keep ending the podcast one like the most fire topic, which I like.

It's only the real ones I know.

But all seven of you, someone one was yelling at me for last week's podcast that moose wasn't in a pineapple because they saw moose in the thumbnail. I'm like, bitch, you just out of yourself. But you didn't stay for the whole pod. You outed yourself anyway.

You attended a few Sunday schools. I did. Yeah. You remember that. Thou shalt not covet. No, I remember vegetables.

Fairy tales in Berkeley. Oh yes. For good. We got to be.

And this is probably in their point thou shalt not covet. That means. I exclusively only know religion through vegetables. OK. Barbara Manetti, it means don't catch an interest for somebody else's significant other. Oh because knock it off. I mean that's fair. That's a good, that's a good rule. That's a good start. Yeah. It's a good, good start.

And I think that that apply is the reason I bring up in that sense that applies to so, so fucking much. And it's just like boundaries, boundaries, boundaries. And just like it's you know, you have to set boundaries on the Internet because you do because it's so easy to get swept away and like, oh, it's not real timeline or whatever. I think the amount of people who get in a headspace where they allow themselves to like, catch feelings for either a something that they're attracted to, that they want need to have a boundary because they're personal relationships or to start to get feelings for that online figure or whatever else.

And more of a lustful way. Yeah. Yeah.

That is so incredibly natural. Right. It's it's no one's like going, oh, I can't wait to throw my fucking life with this for sure.

But like you need to be aware, like your tendencies. And if you have that type of personality that kind of like blurs those lines, you might you take two extra steps back.

Right. Like really. Really. I feel like I know. So I know guys who are just super flirty, but that's just like I mean, they're always just like that's just what he's like. That's just like there's there's and that totally it's totally. And so it's like, yeah, those people really need to take a few steps back.

Like if everyone's going one step it's like you go three steps but and it's tough because like I have had, I've had more. I can't wait to hear where this is going. Fuck you, I can't wait. I have had the unfortunate lay it on us. The suspense is killing me. It's fucking killing me. I've had friends hook up with my exes before. Oh, oh, that's not where I thought this is going. I thought you're about to see something about I've had the unfortunate luck of just being like six, four and attractive and stuff.

I've had friends hook up with my exes before. Yeah, that's right. It is fucked up. Yeah. And for all of my weaknesses and things that I'm really bad at, I've been I got a pretty good fucking record for not hooking up with my friend's exes. Right. Whatever I roko right. You know, it's not to say that I'm perfect. That's not one that I struggle with. Right. Right.

But I think that there are so many people out there that just like get in the gray area of like oh I, I feel loved too or I'm feeling something or whatever and put themselves in these terrible circumstances and situations where there's failure and takes over.

Yeah, it can be, it's powerful. Have you have you ever felt like your significant other was being. Preyed on by your friends. Not by friends, I've definitely like clocked that situation on someone that was more random that I didn't know, it's usually random for sure.

But I mean, I think lust is something that's probably been I mean, it has it has been around forever.

And it's just like the landscape in which that it can flourish. Now, with social media, I think it's just like it's there's just so many attractive people.

I say this all the time and I'm like, how can there be so many hot girls? How can be everyone be so hot? And also, why didn't I look like this at 15? Like, what are you eating that you look like that at 15 and it's it's just crazy.

But I think women are getting way hotter. Guys completely stay in the same. Yeah, yeah, I think we are such an inferior fucking species breed. Oh, my God.

I know as a heterosexual, I don't know if I agree, but men ain't shit. Ain't shit. Sorry. You're the shit though. You're the.

Thank you for the shit. Thank you so much. Shit. Well, on that note, men ain't shit except for except for all the guys. Listen to this podcast. All the guys listen to the podcast. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You are the shits also I've had I've seen a few specific comments of our men, but now it is a new category. We've got a at least a few gay men that watch the Bible love in the are gay shout out to the gays.

I love gays. It seems a little abrasive, but OK. I do. You do. I do. I really do. Do I. Who is more gay friends. You were me.

I don't know who might be close. I just, I gravitate towards. I think I do, I don't know. You know what you come from music background and I feel like the arts.

Yeah. Flourishes. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it's attack on from two or three weeks ago you moved to L.A. You realize everyone does cocaine and everyone's gay and everyone's gay and it was. Yes, yes, yes.

That's true. Yeah. Well because I feel like a lot of people move here to live their best gay life. Well, you're doing cocaine. Certainly wasn't flourishing in the state of Kentucky, right?

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just feel like your life is probably a little better out here. Absolutely. Yeah.

Anyways, we are so way off topic. Yeah, exactly. This has been the morning toast. I am a girl with no job and I am I forget her name.

She's really cute and you got red hair. I don't know why it's blanking me right now. And the Kyouko got here. Yeah. You're the cute girl with red hair. Her sister. Bye bye.