How To Get Hired Without Boobies
Wild 'Til 9- 1,330 views
- 23 Mar 2021
Lauren takes a trip down memory lane of her interview flops and fails. Jeremy shares the strategy he used to get hired after dropping out of college. Lauren's imposter syndrome gets the best of her in a room full of men. Jeremy breaks down his privilege and the role it played in his success.
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What drives that? What makes you a good beer, girl? Movies, boobies.
OK. Ready? Yeah, let's go. Hey, guys, welcome back to, well, Channel Nine, the weekly pod hosted by myself, Laurie Iwai and boyfriend Jeremy. Hey, guys, boyfriend here.
Did you see in the last episode there was a caption that said something boyfriend like it wasn't what we said.
It's like boyfriend responds, Oh, like my name became boyfriend.
Like literally the caption, the caption person or caption computer man robot. So could have been a woman. The robot individual. Yeah, yeah. Individual. The robot captured an individual who was responsible for and called your boyfriend.
Anyway, welcome back to the pod.
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I had no idea. Yeah, but one hundred and fourteen percent of our audience is from the Balkans.
I learned a lot every time I feel like I we when we mention one thing in passing that we don't think has anything to do with our audience. Right. A thousand people prove us wrong every time. More than a thousand, which I like.
I cannot believe how many messages that I received about Balkans, the Balkans. Yeah. There's just so many countries that are in. Yeah.
Anyway, so I know I can even vote for cities like my geography is really, really rough and I learned a lot on the top thousand list of things you're good at.
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No one wants a garbage sheet then blanket. Jeremy, did I say that you're just saying that it's expensive. Do business to me because I got high standards but I just like nice like it's OK.
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And so the blanket is is being is being workshopped to be nine hundred times better.
Like it looks good on camera but it's going to be, it's going to be so much better. Just wait, just make it excited, get excited, save your coin.
Because The Wild tonight Blake is coming and by the time it gets here it'll be fucking expensive because of how many samples Lauren has sent there. Back there, back there back. So make sure you have four hundred dollars for this blanket.
You're exaggerating. And I feel a little talked talked about my passion for the blanket. But OK, I know that you love soft things.
I'm not going to sit here and say you can. No, I have them. You know what to do. I just feel I. What do you feel?
I'm just excited because I know that we have so many podcast pups, so many podcasts, so many pod parrots.
I actually don't know if a parrot likes a blanket. Probably not. Maybe. I don't know. It could be wrong. We've got the pod hamsters, the pod guinea pigs.
There's just some things. Pop, pop, pop pigs. Yeah. How are we going to pig. Yeah.
Yeah I way fuck. I don't think, I don't think I. His name is Moose. He's about a foot high. Three feet wide. Are you talking about our our topic.
Our topic. Sorry I'm passionate about the blanket and I'm excited. But on a closer and more realistic note I'm wearing while till nine sweat pants, sweat pants and hang on the best part, I did a garbage job introducing these sweat pants. They're gray sweatpants. And obviously we have a predominantly female audience and they're super, super fucking cute.
Like the goal was to make them cute, but we didn't not purposely choose them to be gray. So if you feel as if there is a a a what do we call it as we duck a duck, a duck holder who might need platypus in a duck, remember? Yeah. The platypus is not where you have it. You might have. I have a lot of us. You have a duck. Well, spoiler alert. Yeah. Yeah, spoiler.
So anyway, we are encouraging you to encourage the duck holders in your life to potentially have a little more grace up in wine.
That's one of my teeth. Here. My eyesight is terrible, I don't think so. Are you kidding right now? It's also you're not InFocus. You're also not on a mike either, just screaming out of focus with teeth in the camera. Don't dare cut that. Ralph Lauren, how was your week? It was OK. So I'm doing this new thing where I at the end of the day rate, my anxiety was like overall mental state at the end of the day.
And it's been really interesting to see, like what my triggers are, how many garbage days I can have in a row, which tends to be more than I think I do. But it's it's been OK.
What did I do this week? I worked a lot this week. Oh, batched finale was on Monday, but yesterday I worked a shit on something which today has been fine. I'm OK. I'm hanging in there.
It's not it's not two episodes ago or three episodes ago when I was having a when I was a craft girl, craft girl, depressed craft or depressed craft girl. Depressed. Yeah. How was your week.
Busy a shit. Thousand things going on. All for the most part really fucking good. So I'm not going to complain, but it's just like if everyone could just space out these good things, that would be great.
I think also you do a poor job of taking care of your body.
I prioritize everything, everything. But yeah. Yeah.
I mean, there are always people just like I will sacrifice my body for the good of.
Well, no, that's so wrong. I understand, but I've always been like that.
OK, well twenty nine now figure it out. You've got to put your body first. You can't get no sleep multiple days in a row. It's not you, it's not a good look. No one likes that.
OK, well it's all one big master plan for me to outwork myself too much and just have to settle down and be your pool boy for the rest of you.
If you look at you will you will die first. You mean you'll literally die first of what? Overworking will of people who have this mindset?
This is dangerous because people who have this mindset are like, I just work hard because you can sleep when you're dead or sleep when you're retired or whatever.
And I don't think that it's just what you do. You do. You're late. You put it last because you need to work hard. But like you always have to work hard and you always will work hard. Take care of your body. Are you done? Take care of your body. I scream at you every single day.
I've got headphones on that is like amplifying your voice. Take care of your body.
Take care. No, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. No, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.
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We want to help you feel your best. I'm perplexed. Uh huh. Either way, this week. OK, right. I don't know if it was because I like mentioned Maya Angelou last week on the. Yeah. We didn't know who. I am so glad we get to choose. You do. Because every one of the comments was like Maya Angelou. Amazing, terrific. Wonderful. OK, I love that that inspired me to this. But I was sitting through like a half a dozen interviews this week interviewing people for a bunch of different roles.
And I am curious to get your thoughts on someone who's hiring right now, huh? I was a blog.
Oh, it's me I'm hiring right now. I just, like, still haven't accepted the fact that, like, I'm hiring an employee because I just feel like a very, like, grown business thing to do. And I, I it's a foreign feeling. I'm hiring right now. If you're wondering so long Channel has a whole video on it. Plug, plug, plug. But I'm hiring, I'm, I'm hiring.
When I said blog, I didn't mean to take over the entire thing because. Well it's like I give an inch, take them out. So the point is I am. So I was sitting through all these interviews this week and like getting to just know people. And I feel like and people that are listening to this might be able to relate or not like I feel like every single person who's trying to put their best foot forward, especially like when they need to be out of a conversation, ends up putting the last thing but their best foot forward always.
Hmm. Interesting. OK, I give an example for us. Yeah. Just people getting nervous and not performing well. But like I said before, I examples my questions. Have you ever interviewed for a job?
Literally so many interviews. Where are you interviewed for. I've been working. I was 15. OK, I've interviewed so many times. I don't know the answers question.
Yeah. Really. OK, here you go. Walking through, um, my first interview so I would have been 15 so I just like three. We thought we were in Canada. Fifteen.
No it's sixteen. Yeah. So we won't, we won't disclose the little ice cream shop that hired me. Just pay me under the table for the first year of my employment.
Is that when you had massive forearms and. Yeah, I'm not kidding. If you if you've ever scooped ice cream, you finish that summer with a hulk, ask for it. You're like, no, no, no. Lumberjack is nothing. Hulk, Hulk, Green, Hulk like Mr. Hulk. OK, forearm from scooping ice cream like we're digressing a little bit. Yeah, sure. Anyway, so how do we, how do we get here.
Oh you brought up the scooping muscle.
I didn't know you better interview for a job and I just wanted like oh my God. I have interviewed for so many years. I've also had some like massive interview flops as well.
OK, I, I don't mean to get too much off of my script here. I actually need to hear about these because I don't have we have you know, we've never talked about this before, Dussel.
OK, so I've been interviewing for positions between the ages of 15 and probably 20.
So the first interviews that I ever did were for ice cream places. We have this like cute little like Old Town, the area of my hometown called Point Lousie very, very cute. They had a bunch of different ice cream shops and I don't know why my parents were like, yes, this is the place that will hire you illegally.
And I was like, yeah, mom, like, let's fucking go eight dollars an hour, let's go, baby. I actually might even be less than that.
Would have been seven seven fifty under the table. So who knows.
And so I said they did minimum wage even though it was legal in the first place. They're going to be put on. I don't know, it would have been close to minimum wage. Yeah, well, it definitely wasn't for dollars and it was a very like flat even number to make it easy to just take me out. Yes.
Now, how many hours a year?
Yes. Yes. Hands a wad of cash at the end of the day. And so my parents sent me in to interview at all of these ice cream places, eventually got a call back.
Got one. My first day on the job at this ice cream place age 15. Never had a job before in my entire life. So we have these little these little cone racks on top of like the ice cream storage containers that, like, display the cone cones.
Yeah, it kind of just sit out in the open, right. They 100 percent sit on the open. But I will say that like in the summer when you're serving a shit ton of ice cream, like you go through them really quickly, you just maybe wouldn't leave them out overnight because waffle cones absorb a lot of moisture and get really soggy really quick because I am an ice cream scooping connoisseur, obviously.
So there's this ice cream or ice cream cone rack holder that sits on top of it. And the first task that I had been given on my first day of this job was to just like refill the cones. Got it. And I'm probably five foot at the time of this at 15.
Like you're 15, you're fully grown.
No, I was like a super maybe five to really I was more on my period till Grayton, the baby, a little baby, a little peanut. And so anyway, I'm peanut. I'm a little peanut. I get it. Yeah. So I'm refilling this discounting and I don't know if it was on that walked behind me. I really think it was just a customer walking in and being like hi and me just like being so fucking scared shitless of my first day of work.
I've got a stack of like twenty cones in my hand.
Sugar cones, like the most expensive ones, premium for premium, premium of the waffle cone. People think it's the most expensive, but it's actually the sugar cone. So someone walks in and shout out sugar, shout out sugar cones. Someone walks in and just addresses me like doesn't do anything scary.
All you have is that you're not really good with that. No, I'm not. I'm really not, Lauren. And I'm just I'm just like perpetually on edge and like about to be scared at any moment.
So it's the smallest thing I can throw me off. Right. And so they address me.
I imagine you were handling premium merchandise, premium merchandise at age 15. I it's just it's a mess. And so they address me. I like flinch and the launch. Twenty fucking cones across this entire ice cream shop just straight. It was like out of a movie. They all come out, they crash down, they smash everywhere. This is my first ten minutes of working up my first job. My entire last ten minutes. First ten minutes. Yeah.
It is my first task, my first customer. And they didn't fire me. They kept me on. Things only went up from there. But isn't it like classic?
When you're in scenarios like that, you're like new at. Yeah, you just lose all motor skills and become like, how did I get into the scenario?
Oh, I mean, I'm clumsy when I'm at my most confident. So it's like take me out of my comfort zone. And I'm it's I'm barely, barely functioning on the brink of not functioning. But you got the job. Got the job. I did that for a year. And then I was like, I got ice cream scooping expertise now, OK?
And then when I was sixteen, do you really want me to recap all of this?
OK, um, I worked at another ice cream place for another summer.
I don't know why I keep kept getting these ice cream jobs. It's not even like we had like we we're not like fuck in Vermont, like the ice cream capital or anything. Well, also, you're really lactose intolerant. You know what? I almost feel as if working at all these ice cream places and eating so much ice cream made me lactose intolerant. I think that's how that works.
Anyways, I could put down a lot of ice cream, but I believe that sixteen, seventeen.
See, I worked at another ice cream place and he also paid us under the table. So I would have been seventeen or I would've been seventeen.
It was the summer before I moved away for university and he wouldn't pay us for like multiple weeks. And I would be like, hey, I have to start paying for textbooks and like tuition, like, can I get paid? He literally go downstairs, come back up with a fucking wad of just like twenty or 50 or one hundred and give you like I don't know how much I made over a month, but no statement, just money, just a wad of money, a lot of money.
And it was like a super safe touristy areas called Niagara on the lake. And so it was like really cute and like it was fine. But I mean, like at seventeen, if you're holding twenty five hundred dollars, it's more money than I'd ever seen in my entire life.
I had to work a long time and make twenty five dollars youthwork a long time and also not get paid for a really long time to make that much money. To be fair, that's probably the best way to save money by not being given the money that you already earned.
Tom was doing me a favor. Yeah, I didn't realize that I took my money guy who insists on blowing money out the day I get paid. Don't think that should wait a day or two and we'll pull it out this day.
That's that's a great that's a great tactic. Yeah. I don't like that at the beginning, Michael. I know we thought about that. I feel like you still don't like it really that much. I just like it's like my paycheck just every single time. It's like, well, I could buy so many things with that money.
Yeah, but you shouldn't be buying things. You let Michael do his thing. Michael is doing his thing. Michael do his thing. How dumb. Do it anyway. Shut up ared.
So, yeah, I would I would sprint at 10:00 p.m. when our ice cream place closed with a wad of cash to my car and then safe, super safe.
And I would just you know, I had run track and cross-country. And so I would just use those skills and just fucking book it to the car and wish the best.
Never, never got mugged or anything. I don't see probably had no reason to be scared, but it just like it felt like too much responsibility being in charge of that much cash at one time.
I don't know if I've ever been paid in cash ever for any job I've ever worked. I've already been paid a lot. And now that I'm looking back on it. Oh, that's not true. So two jobs and then when you're a server, you take home a shit ton of cash. But that's not that's that's legal, right?
Well, it's also you're supposed to do your own books on it, too. I'm sure you paid taxes.
I'm sure I paid taxes on the tips. OK, got it.
What was the most difficult, awkward word to an intern one time? Yeah, I was an intern once. That was weird situation, though, because when I was starting my YouTube channel, they hired me for the position, thinking that I think I would use my YouTube platform to promote what they were doing.
And so we had to have like a weird sit down halfway through the internship to be like, hey, we this is not the expectation. And like, I had to do these hours to graduate. And so I was like, I need to finish this. And like, I have expertise in this area, so, like, I can help. But it was it was it was a weird situation. I if I interviewed for that, I must have.
I've been to an odd amount.
Sorry, I'm I'm rambling. No, I'm just like I guess when I ask this question, I thought you're going to about two things to say. I haven't. You're allowed to say you've got me wrong.
I'm glad I've been I've done so many job fairs for some reason. Job fairs, job fairs.
Oh my God. Yeah. OK, so one of them we had a new grocery store opening up in St. Katherine's my hometown, which is a big fucking deal.
Well, the grocery store sparked how many relationships? All of them. Well, I'm here to at a four. OK, yeah. Yeah, two at a four. So yeah, if whatever else you'll go get a job at else I will. Yeah. Even Gelson's, maybe even Wholefoods.
Who knows. It's not good Pavilion's. I don't know.
OK, so there was I, well you know, I don't know if I was someone who worked to er one there, probably some really nice people to work at.
Er well I'm sure there's some really nice bosses. Seven people. Sorry guys.
So there was a job there for this new grocery store opening up. Everyone was very excited.
What I the job fair for a grocery store.
Well yeah cos they just stopped the whole, the whole thing so it was like they needed full departments of people, they needed management.
They don't know if I've ever been to a job fair. Actually I've been to so many. What is the job there.
So you. Oh, my God, I feel like I was like, block this out of my memory because it makes me so nervous and like kind of traumatic because I just think I'm a stressed individual. So you go in and you do like your preliminary interviews and you hand them your resume and then they advance. Certain people die like I can't remember how they advance you.
I mean, you're you're describing Rush Week for fraternising, right?
Right. Right, right. Right. Yeah. So basically that but like, there's money at the end of it and like less hazing trauma, um, at the grocery store and they're just ah you're right.
And I can't remember if you go home and they call you to tell you that you've advanced. But I think, I think you stay, they give you some kind of paperwork or like a fucking sticker or stamp of approval to be like you've been to the next round. And so then you go back up into the hall, you got to see you just like hang you way. And then you somehow get like the next round and then you go one more round.
And then I think they call you to tell you you got the job or not. And I remember that I went to the job fair with both of my cousins and also half of the fucking city. So like everyone from my high school.
So it was like kind of I said, no, you're going to go, no, you're going to go and get a job. Yeah. Yeah.
So it was like kind of aflex like get advance because everyone's kind of vying for these positions. Right.
So that was one job there that ended up being being pretty great. I worked at a job for three years, like during school, during high school. I was like a cashier. And then I got to be like the front end, like the self checkout. And I press the little buttons and clear the things. Yeah. Got to do that.
Like, that would be you would see people at their absolute dumbest.
You have no idea because even I feel like the times I've like gone and done that myself and I'm like I work in tech for a living. Yeah. Yeah.
And like, you know the scale of the that I'm not getting if you put a fucking plastic bag down on like the weight side. Yes. Yes, yes. You know, it's not even the public's fault. Like there's flaws on both sides for sure. Like, don't get me wrong, sometimes people are really fucking stupid in years.
Like, I don't make enough money to do this. And they also like when that first started rolling out, people like they wanted you to they encouraged you to, like, drag people over there and like they wanted to get people out of the lines of cashiers and drag them over there.
And then it's just it's just hell on earth. It's hell on earth.
I will say my mother's the queen of man. We can do this stuff. Check out. No, you won't. Oh, yeah.
Don't. I would not like that that Donna would not like that.
It's a pretty long wait. No, wait, no all wait.
In fact I factored in time and when someone wants to put in a fucking coupon on the self checkout. Oh bitch. Lord help me. It is you just can't you can't say no. Sorry, sorry.
You know no one for you.
No discount, no coupon for you or you say the groceries for three years. Yeah. Sigurdur for three years I worked that job and at my music conservatory teaching kids piano and guitar. So I did those that I did that one once a week on a school night. And then I did the grocery store part time as well, a few times a week as well.
Wow. I'm going to hustlin since fifteen. I'm not kidding. I've been working like the entire actually I when I was in university I didn't work during the semester. I would just bust ass and work 60 hour work weeks in the summer at the Tilted Guild of Canada. The Yes Yes.
The Tilted Kilt of Canada. It's cold. You know, though, this wasn't a change. They had two locations called a kilt and Clover.
Do you have the outfit? Still no one to have the outfit.
Still you nasty. Right now that I look back, I like the work uniforms of the serving jobs. The first one at Shoeless Joe's. Oh, my God.
I haven't got I haven't enjoyed the story for now for the Townly fans, the.
Yeah, well, I took you to Shoeless Joe's, remember. We got a drink there once. It was in the casino in Niagara Falls.
Yes I remember. Yeah. He stares at the stairs. Oh my God. So this place that I worked at. I'm so sorry you haven't even spoke this entire time. This is great.
So this restaurant, the first restaurant we ever worked at, I started hosting for a year and then I serve the next summer I so there was two floors.
The first floor had the bar, the second floor had the kitchen. So whether your section was on the first floor or the second floor, you were doing exactly upstairs. Twenty seven stairs the entire fucking night because it's not like people aren't going to get food or not going to get beverages. Like even if someone wanted a pop you were doing those twenty seven stairs for a fucking kiddie cup of half the world, just soda just broke their soda pop and I'm a pop guy soda guy cup whatever.
But half the world is very soda pop pop coke soda comment below with your favorite poppers. So why do you say that then. It's going to be I want a Coca-Cola. What kind of Coca-Cola. A Pepsi that, you know, a Coca-Cola really did a great job there.
Just just bulldozing an entire marketplace. Yeah, I love that for them. But so when I when I interviewed for that job and that summer specifically, my mom drove me around, all of we also have like an area around my hometown that does like tons of wineries. And for some reason she thought that I'd be great on. Oh, I have another story after this. Oh, my God.
I have so many things to say you we've talked about this before. I just text me when you're done. This is a solo podcast episode. I promise. I've got like three stories and then it's your turn.
That's a good. So one interview, a little blunder, I saw one had like dropped off all these resumes at Winery's, the winners didn't want me. I don't know why. A little sad about it, you know, a little offended.
Well, you know, if you want to call them out right now, who didn't hire or DIY, literally all of them by name.
I can't think of a single one. I can think of a single one. It's because they're not memorable yet. Well, you know, I will say that at 18, I was drinking. Mostly shitty vodka or like a wine cooler and really didn't know anything about wine, so I probably realistically would not have been an asset there.
Yeah, your wine knowledge today is not something that I would necessarily trust. You know, that list of a thousand things are really good at that's not on.
There wouldn't be on that. That's not on there. Not I'm not sure what number we'd have to get down to before it's like your viticulture.
Yeah, it's not it's not on there. Viticulture. One of the things. Viticulture. Yeah.
One of the jobs that I wanted so bad that I never got. And I really think it's because I didn't have boobies is that I wanted to be a golf cart. Bargewell so bad, so bad and need boobies.
I think I need to boobies. I really think that I needed boobies and I tried so hard to be a golf course, golf cart, beer girl. I think they serve more than beer.
I really wish I had my future female future female.
Your features is mug here today. Yeah. Yeah. I see so many friends. I had so much fun doing it. They made bank, they got to drive around the little cart and just like go from person to person.
Well I just remembered what I wanted to get a job as a caddy and I didn't get hired.
Oh babe, do we need to go live out this. This. Yeah, we need to go we need to go do this.
Obviously, I wonder if anyone is hiring a caddy positions. I mean, I'm I'm I'm a pretty good server. I still don't have boobies, which is maybe still like the other now.
So I don't really care the clubs either. I mean, this isn't for us. Well, I mean, could I maybe I could just drive the car.
No, but I drive the car. I'm the big girl. The big girl drives the car. Yeah.
Who else would drive the car. You get to drive all the snacks to all the different golfers like you go to them. What do you think?
If there was the top hundred beer girls in the in the nation, the world. What do you think?
What drives that? What makes you a good beer girl? Boobies.
Boobies. OK, no, I have no idea. Honestly, it just feels like such a cheek's. But did you get good too. But I think buddy chicks are in the golf cart. They're smushed.
But I think boobies this is the most heterosexually disgusting conversation ever.
Yeah, I'm so sorry. It just it just felt like a more appealing job versus being a server, because when you're a server, you were just overworked into the ground and you're always behind. Whereas like if you're a bigger car girl, you're going to the customer versus having ten customers screaming at you.
You seem very peaceful. Also supply and demand. You're the only one serving that vicinity. You're the only one serving that vicinity. And the drunker people get, the more they tip you. I guess that's the same in a restaurant as well. Right? OK, but the interview blunder that I made at this first restaurant that had the twenty seven stairs was they were interviewing me and they were like, what do you know about the restaurant?
And my dumb ass had dropped off a resume like six seconds before he was like, hey, I actually have time right now. I was like, oh my God, I've just handed out forty five resumes. Like, I know nothing about this place. I know literally zero things, which is the number one thing that you don't go into an interview not knowing is knowing anything about the place you're interviewing for. OK, and so I called it, I was like, oh it's like a it's like a sports bar.
And he fucking stopped me right there. It's like dead in my tracks. And I was like, because I'm like, I'm, I don't know, seventeen. I was seventeen so I was trying to be a host.
Right. Hey, Miles, I want to remind everyone that she also did when someone walked in to the place of business that she was working. Yeah.
And then the mini really quick hyperventilation. And he was like, we are not a sports bar.
And I was like, OK, OK, what are you. And he was like, we are a family friendly restaurant or a family friendly food establishment.
Hmm. He sounds like trying to evade a certain type of tax, OK? Yes. Yes. And then and then when I got the job, what was I in fucking Lululemon tight sportswear spandex. I'm like, bitch, you told me that we're not a sports bar right now as I serve these predominantly male customers who are here to watch UFC bitch just to be the kids man menu doesn't mean it's a family friendly establishment.
OK, so you made it not family friendly. I don't think it was family friendly. What about you? Not family friendly. Oh, about me. Yeah. Oh, I'm family friendly. Back to my point.
So you were in a sports bar. It wasn't family friendly, but it was like implied, not family friendly. Everybody there like everyone to go. Yes, but like dad or mom had some wandering eyes. Yes. Were there attractive men working there as well? No. Got it. That's that's what made it.
That's what made it not family friendly. Actually, there's the telltale sign. Right. It's just I wonder if and this is obviously, you know, once things open back up again, I wonder if Hooters is going to survive the next ten years.
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So on my Instagram to their day was like, wow, look, your left your left boobs, like way bigger, right? It's a shirt where I had like it was like a satin top that, like, you cannot wear a bra with and it like wraps around. There's a little bit of Underbool action for someone who has no boob. There was a little bit of Underbool. Got it.
Anyway, so one situation, Losman situation. Exactly. Not don't don't get it mixed up. And someone clocked that my left boob was bigger, which it is, which it fully is. We all know it. We all know well everyone does.
After that person clocked on Instagram and I was like, oh shit. It's like this photo absolutely is an accurate depiction of my left boob being bigger than over here, just in the right way to look bigger.
That's true. Yeah. That could've been a bad face down for sure.
So the point I wanted to get at about five minutes ago that you actually helped prove quite well. And the reason that I'm on this fucking, like, kick right now because I'm so dead set on trying to figure out why it is that we do this hiring and like that fucking just judge.
The whole process is the most dehumanizing way to assess value of many of the things that or any of the things we do in fucking society.
Yeah, that's a shame that I haven't thought about that. It's just it is the most the reason I say that is like what it's like six people last week were interviewing for this fucking job. And it's a very important role. And it's like one that is like kind of unique in the sense you have to have to have like the right experience, the right this this. Anyway, long story short, is like you.
After you fucking like see how people, like, present themselves, it's crazy to me because, like, there's so I go through my resume or we're going to start this is just like, hey, my name is Hiromi. What was your name again? Start where you'd like. And it's like seeing people's fucking brains go. I don't know where to start. It's like we scare people though. We scared people so much that they can't just be themselves.
They think they have to be some fucking thing that's beyond that. That's wrong.
I just feel like there's so much pressure, though, when people want something really bad, cause you know what I mean? It's like you just you just try so hard because you want it so bad. And I think also because, like, the interviewing process is somewhat traditional and like, you kind of know how it's going to flow, but sometimes you don't. And there's not like a specific like step one, step two, step three type of process that you can always prepare for.
And it's like it's like how one of the questions in an interview is always like, do you have any questions? And like the rule of thumb is that you need to have a question to ask, like so you can kind of prepare for, like, dumb things like that. But other than that, like, it's it's kind of the girl. It's the Wild West shit show out there.
I mean, I agree. But I'd like to think that the reason that I've had any success at all is that I've looked at all of those scenarios and got everybody else going to say, let's make sure not to do that. I was the complete opposite, right? The complete opposite.
Let's just do all the things that people expect and want me to do.
Yeah, but I think that I am a pretty warm individual. So even if I'm saying the same thing of being like I'm a team worker, I'm independent, I'm driven, I am willing to learn. Right. I mean, I feel like the personality behind the delivery I was good at TI because I can say I can say the classic shit like that that I'm driven, but like you can do in a way that, you know, once you read the IQ of the person that you're delivering it to, that will read well.
So I would deliver that differently towards a twenty one year old female and a forty five year old female. Right. And so I think there's like skill to that as well, I guess. But like, as someone who likes to be outside of the box in your actual real world life, like, why would you so go so far the other way to get a job that, you know, probably it's OK for you to be creative.
Yeah. I mean, no, you're you're totally right. I will say that when I'm hiring for, like, the creative position that I'm trying to fill, like on my team, it's been really interesting to see how people approach even just like the initial email.
Well, part of the reason I want to, like, chat about this, like the amount of like my DMS are filled with like two things.
Can you tell Lauren and then something or how would you like it's Lauren or give me business advice. And the business advice is usually like, how do I get started? Right. If that was if I could count the amount of times I've been asked, how do I get started? Right. It would be more almost as many as. Can you tell Lauren I like her sneakers. OK, so how do you get started? Well, first I tell you, I like your sneakers.
OK, thank you so much. You actually don't usually like my sneakers.
Yeah, but if I told you I like your sneakers, you want to talk about it. No. If you said that you like my secret would be like no you fucking don't move on anyway.
Well before I make this about me, although we probably.
It's your turn. It's your turn.
OK, my question first before I hop into that, OK, you're hiring. What are you looking for. I mean, this is like kind of the the I mean, there's nothing like job or job requirements on a job description that I've loosely positioned. Yeah, but at the end of the day, it's kind of just like a creative producer, assistant role. And so it's someone someone's going to have to wear a lot of creative hats. And that's why it's difficult to just like slap a title on it.
It's like I don't need a photographer, but I need someone to help me take photos with my iPhone. I don't need a videographer. I'm right here, babe. I am not kidding. I've downloaded so many different, like, self timer apps so that I can I can fire you from your job. Instagram boyfriend.
OK, rude. You hate taking photos. You hate it. You're welcome for the initiative that I took there. I do.
So yeah, I need someone to help me capture video but I don't need someone that can work a gimble and understand iso and shutter speed and aperture.
What kinnaird.
OK, well just part of my job. They don't need to know that because you know that. Yeah, because I know that. And like realistically like we don't usually need to know that.
So it's, it's, it's, I don't know. And so that's part of the interesting process of like seeing the applications come in is that it's interesting to see the creative liberties that people have taken even in the application process, to set their email apart.
Like what? Well, one of the ones to not do that I saw today was, hi, Laura.
Really excited about the the opportunity. And I'm like, if you if you don't have the initiative to know what my name is straight to the trash. Right.
But what about this? What if someone had said, hi, Laura. Oh, my God, I'm your biggest fan ever and then blow that go. I'm just kidding. I know that's you like your pet peeve and then goes into it.
Oh, that's fucking funny. That's funny. That's funny, right. Everyone else was zigging zagging. Yeah. Yeah. Zaghawa is that she called me Laura within the cover letter.
Within the email.
Within Yeah. The address. Yeah it was, it was, it was.
Yeah I the amount of effort of that person probably went through to put all that together and then you fucked the name up. Yeah. I had one that was really cute and kind of endearing you know, wasn't a bad.
Oh no. It would have been insert first name.
You're right. Insert first name. Yeah. You would love this one.
It was hi.
I'm this I'm this many years old and I'm an Aquarius higher than I read that I was like, Jimmy would love this fire and they would love this one. They ended up not being like the right fit. But I was like, this is this would have been perfect for the right person who loves this.
Yeah. Like Jeremy. Yeah, like Jeremy. I just like. Maybe, maybe I'm weird, I'm definitely weird, but I wish people did this more. I the last time I interviewed. And a lot of the times I've interviewed, as opposed to starting out with, like my best foot, I will make a joke about the worst one.
But that's still putting your best foot forward just in, like, a weird sales way.
Totally. But it helps you control the situation, the scenario, like, I think people are just so scared to be a thing that they're not and to so scared to not let the thing that they don't want to shine through come through that they let it control them.
Yeah, for sure. Well, I also think, again, like so much pressure being on, like when you want something so bad, I think people are also scared that if they take a creative liberty, like cracking a joke at the beginning and it doesn't land right, then it it'll just it'll just like the whole interview will be a wash and then they lose that opportunity. So people are scared to have that moment that might like capture the attention because people who interview, especially like things like these job fairs, like they are doing it for eight hours a day and they're fucking bored like that.
Exactly. To me, that's why I think this like farm system of like bringing people in, like livestock and like getting there. I was the livestock. Yeah, exactly. That's not how people connect.
Oh, no, no, no, no. I understand. Like, in that environment, when you have to fill a shit ton of positions in a short amount of time for like a new establishment, like maybe that is the most efficient for them. But I think maybe for creative industries, it's just it's just very different.
I mean, I'll always remember when I first came out to L.A., didn't really know anybody was a college dropout, had no money, didn't have a plan. I remember I got dressed up in the nicest suit that I like owned. And I would go to stores that, like I would be interested in maybe like not like working there, but like doing if they wanted, like some sort of consulting for marketing or anything they would like pay the bill.
I would literally call it door marketing, meaning that if it walked through that door I would figure out something to sell to or with. So like if there was a store owner and that person sold shoes, shit.
I'll help you sell some shoes. If they're in the grocery business. Great. I'll optimizer that. I was trying to figure out any way to put food in my mouth so I would literally get dressed up head to toe and wait for the most highest ranking person.
I could at least try and figure out to come over and ask if I needed help there. And then I'd say, oh, no, I'm just killing time waiting for a meeting. And a lot of the time, because it's always I mean, they'll ask about said meeting. Right. And then I'll pretend as if I have some fucking meeting in marketing or whatever kind of thing to get them talking about it. And you would be shocked. Amount of people are like, how so?
Who do you work with? What how do you do that? Whatever kind of thing. And I completely fucking made it up, don't get me wrong, but I made the story of the thing that I actually wanted to do for them and half the time to go. Would you be interested in maybe talking about doing that for us and you'd be fucking shocked how often that worked, but that's a genius that's so smart.
Well, yes, but the creativity, a creative liberty to me, the fake it till you make it, there has to be a line there.
But I do truly believe in the fake it till you make. I agree. Yeah.
But also, like I think everyone's saying they fake it to make it. Some people just have the ability to do that with a degree that, you know, they or their families somebody else paid for and they had the time and the luxury that I have to get a job. And they're just faking it in college until they fake it out the real world. And then if they can find a good opportunity or just get your hands dirty and hop out of the job field as soon as you need to.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, is only one way to learn. Yeah.
But I just think that, like my point here, my issue is it's like I am aggravated by the lack of empathy we still fucking have after the last year of this whirlwind of shit that's been going on in the world. I have we still not figured out how to not treat people like shit. Is that towards hiring or a broader statement? Well, there's a higher but broader statement.
Yeah, I mean I mean, this was, I think, a really, really tough year for everyone. Like, I think every single person was affected by it in some way. And if there is a time that anyone needs more kindness in their life, it is now. Yeah, it is literally now.
And I think I think hopefully, like some people learned more empathy, but I don't know a great.
My next thing you have to ask about is in terms of your for you feel like I'm in a job interview right now. Yeah, OK. Really, really interview.
What are you ashamed of? What am I ashamed of in my life? Yeah. I mean, my YouTube channel from ages in 2011 to two 18. OK.
I'm ashamed of some of the sub tweets that I've tweeted out in the past. I am ashamed. Ditto for yourself.
Tweets. Mm hmm.
Someone ask me a question the other day on like I was really a clubhouse interview and they're like, what would you change?
Yeah, I was like, I don't know if I can what I have for breakfast, like, nothing. I want I want to change anything. I love where I am now.
And I and if you changed one thing four years ago that could set off your entire career path. But why am I ashamed of a fucking. That's a hard question. I am. Buying time in my brain to think of what I'm ashamed of. What are you ashamed of? What am ashamed of? Yeah, um. All the things I'm ashamed about, all the things that come to mind or the things that I'm probably not even able to put into words with you were on this podcast or even to myself, are all the things that I realized at some point and wish I could take back.
But it was too late. So it's just like.
Yeah, the the. The words I choose, the words I chose to to say when I didn't need to say them, the actions that I chose to to go forward that weren't necessary, the things that were very much like, unfortunately, I'm not someone who's smart enough to figure out how to why do not do something until I've done it wrong 17 times. Right. And so I just feel bad for those 17 people that had to experience that along the way.
Well, we talked about this in the last week's podcast about how you had a moment like five years ago where you were not super nice to people in the customer service industry that, you know, that kind of got taken out of the context as if I was just, like, blasé about it.
But yeah. Yeah, I'm not blasé about it. No, I know. I know. Hmm.
Hmm, hmm. Anyway, my my shame comes from not being able to figure it out sooner.
I mean, I think there's shame in that. I think there's no I have shame. OK, ok. Well I don't think you need to. Why don't need to.
I shouldn't. But at the end of day like that's those are the things that like if someone were to do remember their time and like walk me through a thing that happened.
I don't even remember it. Right. That's I'm so sorry that that's a real thing that happened. Yeah. That is totally my fault that I'll never be able to make. Right. Yeah, I my brain still has not come up with a lot.
I think it's wrong because it's also like 11:00 p.m. I think probably because like the only child syndrome is really kicking in right now. You're an only child to. What the fuck do you mean? I know.
I will say one of the more recent things that I'm ashamed of is not feel just like the amount of imposter syndrome that I have and the the feeling of not feeling deserving of being in a room that's just like filled with like male sex or whatever. I think that's something that I still struggle with. And I'm not proud of the lack of advancements that I've made, even though I've accomplished so many things that I should be proud of and should make me feel like I deserve to be in the room that I'm in.
But it's a work in progress.
You said male. Yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about it with a. Um, you just feel there's just like a sense of safety when there is a boss ass woman in the in the room because like. The stats don't lie like the majority of exams are white males, and, you know, when there's a female in the room and who's like forty five years old, you're like, bitch, like you. You've been done it like you've gone through some shit, like even, you know, when they were getting into the industry twenty five years ago, it's like obviously they had to fight harder to be at the table now.
So when you see someone who's like paved the path for you too, I'm like, damn it, you're a boss ass bitch.
But don't you realize that that's the way that a lot of people look at you? Totally, yeah.
No, 100 percent. And that's why, like, I'm not I'm like, so ashamed to, like, still struggle with this because I've probably made so many advancements for the younger generation, just like doing what I've done.
But I'm sure it's the same way.
Maybe the woman above me feels like that, you know, it's like so hard to say, but yeah, it's just a and I think clubhouse is one of the apps that has made me feel that the most recently. So just being, you know, on a panel with predominantly white males and I'm like the only the only female speaking to being a creator in a room full of all these other execs.
And it's the most recent that I've been like one. I don't deserve to be here, too. Oh, my God, I'm the only female. And three, just like, what the fuck in general is going on? What I feel like this. Why is this happening?
And like, should I be feeling like this at risk of getting to not even political, but fuck the risk. I am always interested when I go on to a tangent of how I think that I got where I am and always go back to the fact that did I graduate from college? No. Don't have any money from family? No. And I felt these things that I think it's easy to go all the things I didn't have. Sure. I'm sure we could get a laundry list of things that I have, privileges that I didn't have that I could, like, go and like, oh, whatever.
But then today, no one ever turned me down from a conversation. Every time I walked into a place, I took for granted the they're going to be the time of day because they're going to buy something. Right. That's like. Right.
I think I had my own struggles and challenges. But at the end of the day, I don't know if I would be half as far along if I didn't have the ungodly amount of privilege that I just woke up every day with. Right. Without having to do anything for it at all.
Yeah, 100 percent. There's this trend right now and tick tock and it's like, tell me you have pretty privileged. I would tell him you have pretty privileged and it's all these like crazy stories about just like I was about pretty privileged at that.
I always like about you having pretty privileged. That was not the privilege I was talking about. I mean, I that's not the main one, but I think it is one of them.
I'm more than OK, go on. Anyway, the doctrine is just like all these, like hot girls saying, like how much free shit they get. There's also an app, apparently, that I fuck. I think I figured it out so I can find it. But there's apparently an app where if you're just like a hot girl, you can sign up for this app and it has a list of all these things you can do for free or with a massive discount code if you just post about it.
And it's literally it's not for influencers, it's for hot girls, because some of these brands want to be associated with hot girls posting about their their brand. So even if it only has like a thousand followers and they're just like they're a hot college girl, like that person might have more influence and, you know, micro influencer who's got twenty thousand followers and then that hot college girl will get hella free shit.
You know, as a society, we've come so far and have so far to go and have so far to go. It's just so far to go I. What the fuck? What the fuck? But also remember, hot or not, remember, oh, like literally hot or not, it was like it felt so normal to whether someone was hot or not.
Totally. And that was just like that's the kind of shit that that fortunately, I think feels like it's kind of more in focus now because it didn't seem like it was out of the norm like that that long ago. Right. But at the same time, it's like you hear this and it's like it's the same shit.
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Totally for sure.
No, I just I am I'm all I'm in my feelings this week. I know in a different way about just like I wish that people could get out of their own way because I don't think we are born and automatically think that people around us know better, do better, are just like better off, whatever. I don't think that like I think that as a society we do that shit. And I think there's a real fine balance between being overly cocky and confident and in your face and and taking away from somebody else, but being bold and being so understated that you never say what you want to say.
Yeah, I think that's a lie.
And so just like I look at the comments and people are talking about really connecting with it, and just like people are so scared to get started and like think that anybody else has the answer for how to be them. And like, I don't care who it is, the answer is whatever it is that you want and can do to, you know, do work fun, play how you kind of thing, start there.
I mean, a hundred percent. It's the same questions like, how do I start a YouTube channel and it's just start right.
Fail and then fail faster and then fail faster and then fail less and then don't fail at all and then succeed and then replicate that.
Oh my God. That was stressful. Yeah. All of that. But it's true. People are so worried about trying to be like fucking perfect. They, they don't really like good enough actually is good.
A good enough reason. Good enough. There we go.
Good enough.
Are you so excited for daylight savings time and not having to fucking be in the dark at five o'clock at night.
Literally so much. I will say losing an hour makes you really fucking sad. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. But now that my body has adjusted and my body's not so mad at the world right now, I'm a fan. I'm a big fan. Big fan. Yeah. I think that I would just like to just not have daylight savings whatsoever.
And we just stay like this on your own, but. Personal preference, I mean, I think that personally, I would rather stay light all the time. Ellen, if you could, like, figure that out, that would be great. OK. Did you want to give any more investment advice to.
No. Invest in the gray sweatpants that are coming soon or just coming out?
I don't know, a couple of weeks. So, OK, so here's my other thing, too, is that we've got all these gray sweatpants.
So I'm like, do we do we like the gray so pant? We do. We do.
We get some more like we talked about this last we did talk about your duck. And I don't want I don't want your duck on the Internet selling these hot pants. So why do we just get some other dork out here and like it? Obviously, they're they're unisex sweat pants. So I think we need to have some ducks in platypuses and just all all of the the works, the mix. Um, but I just I you know, I envision speaking of interviewing process.
Yeah. How would that go? Well, I send your headshots, you know, I feel like I just be get like a casting call, just be like I want people of all shapes and sizes and ducks and platypuses. Everyone wears weapons. Hmm.
And also, it's a known fact that everyone looks better in gray sweatpants. I don't know if that's a known fact.
That's a known fact. It's a scientific stat. No. Yes, it is.
Yes, it is. Yes. It sounds very good.
I am going to look I'm looking forward to all of the light bulb moments, hopefully that people will continue to have as they realize that everybody else thinks. Yet it's OK to love yourself a little bit. No one is. No one, but literally no one is the shit.
I'm not shit. You're the shit. Thanks. You should do nice stuff is OK, fine. Anyway, my point is I want people to get out of their own way.
Yeah. You tell them I spent well, I spent about 10 minutes talking. I spent I spent. I cannot believe that I didn't know what we were going to talk about in this podcast. And then I had and I still have more stories that we didn't even touch on.
I mean, realistically, of the seven things like we had empathy, which I wanted to chat about, we had demonization, we hit shame. We didn't we're going to do accountability. No, we didn't really get into higher ability now. And we kind of just like how to get started, these boot boobies. I would really like to take a quick moment to make sure that the folks that struggle with understanding sarcasm, which is a real thing, we don't mean that, right?
No, we don't mean that. Look at me. I got jobs with no boobies.
Yeah. You got a hell of a lot more money than me.
And we have the same size boobies. We have the same size boobies, don't you, my love ones. Bigger. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
I wonder if one of my nudes is bigger than the other one. Definitely. Which one left. Really. Yeah.
Any other questions you'd like to ask. Who the fuck is he. Is he heavier or just. He's heavier girth here. I don't know. Maybe both. I hate that word.
Oh God. Your parents listen to the podcast.
Anyways, my last point is that I'd like to reiterate, when you know better, you fucking do better. That's my version of Maya Angelou's. When you know better, you do better. You know better, you do better. The only way you can know better, I believe in you.
Fuck itself and get in your own way. My soapbox for the fucking month. I would like for all the people that are still here because that's those things that I actually care about.
I know everybody else well. It's not that I don't care. I just hope you at least, you know, left the audio track on. So that played out for the. Yeah.
The whole view I would like to hear in the comments specific. Topics, things that we have not talked about, and if you say something we've talked about and you're watching this point, shame, talk about shame, shame, I'm holding you accountable. I want to know the things that we have not talked about or the people that we should bring on or the topics of the things or whatever else that we have not chatted about that you want to hear about, because that are those.
Because those are the things we're going to fucking talk about. Yeah, real time feedback, real time feedback. Let's go. You already got that, aren't you? Yeah.
So ready to give one more shout out and hello and goodbye to all the folks are good, good, good friends from the Balkans, the Balkans, the Balkans and Latvia, of course, always going to love you is a part of the Balkans right now.
We learned I think like adjacent. Oh fuck.
Well, you know, correct is very Serbia, Croatia, Greece. I think it's in the Balkans. Yeah, for sure. Fucked up for sure.
Shout out to everyone in the Balkans and Latvia and then everybody else. Well, it's we love you. We love you as well. You're just not on Latvia's level. Have a great fucking morning. Goodnight. Good afternoon.
We'll see you next week, baby. Hey, it's Bob Saget here, and guess what the name of my podcast is Bob Saget is here for you. Everybody's got a podcast. We know that I've been doing mine for a while, even before all this craziness of 20/20 happened. And thank goodness we're coming out of it. And I'm continuing to do it forever because I love it. And it's something I love because I get to talk to comedians that I love and actors and and writers and sports people and news people and call you guys sometimes and see how you guys are doing.
It's available, of course, at Apple and it's also available Spotify. And so you want to subscribe and listen to it. In fact, pause the podcast you're listening to right now and listen to my podcast. Bob Saget is here for you and then go back to your podcast. So it was an extra hour, 90 minutes or whatever, so you could get a little extra entertainment out of your day. That's what I'm hoping for. All the best.