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Hey, everyone, this is a proportional response podcast, I'm John Walker, and today my guest is Daniel Running. I asked him about a certain quality. I've noticed in him too.

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You can learn like a different viewpoint and kind of change your perspective maybe. And there's always like that option where what you thought initially might be wrong.

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We chat about him moving to America. No, I really didn't want to go, actually. Yeah. When we first decided that we were leaving and a whole lot more.

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You may be listening to this on Spotify. If not, it is now available there as well as the website. But yeah, I hope you enjoy. So here is info, my conversation with Daniel Ranney. OK, I'm here with Daniel. How are you? Good, thanks. I'm good. Thanks for agreeing to do this. I somewhat coerce you into doing this because you said you sort of agreed to it when you were drunk. Yeah, I took the CD anyway, so thank you again for doing it.

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You are actually one of the first people I told about this podcast. I believe it was you and Frasier I was chatting to and I was telling you about it and you're Supersport, which really helped me when wanting to do more. But you also said that you thought I'd find it quite difficult to get people to agree to direct conversations with me. And I disagreed with you. I thought it would be kind of easy in a naive way now that I've now discovered.

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But as I found out, you were you were correct in that it is quite difficult to get people to do this and sort of open up in the ways I'm asking them to do. So maybe I just thought I'd ask, what is it that you thought would make it so difficult for people to come on? And you are also slightly hesitant. So maybe why you are hesitant in that way, right? I think I thought it would be difficult because, like, it's kind of daunting.

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I've said to you before, like, yeah, kind of scary seeing stuff like this recorded and that live. It's not live, but like it's definitely scary because it's not just a normal. Yes. You have to listen to it. Yeah. And it's a conversation maybe like you'd have like a couple of close friends. Yeah. But like you definitely wouldn't broadcast it to everybody else. And so like you're aware that you're speaking only to you but to everybody else that listens to it.

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And I think that's a bit nerve wracking. It is. I was just saying before we started, it's always scary. When I bring out a smile, it's like, yeah, it's a little thing that sits in the middle when we record. And what I found is that people often say, oh, I'm not interesting enough to do it. I don't know if that's just an excuse. Maybe not to do it, but I think people always find themselves not interesting at all.

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Whereas one really just asking is what people think about things. So as long as you have opinions, really your interest in that way. Yeah, but like you make like it makes it so much easier when you ask when you make questions to ask people like I would have said, yeah, I don't really know what I would talk about. Yeah. Or four minutes. And then when you read the questions and it's like stuff you haven't told before.

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Yeah. That's like, that's something the people also maybe don't realize is that I make up questions for people when I ask them to do it so that they have an idea of what I'm going to ask. It's not just me like yeah. Just putting you on the spot. So that makes it a bit easier. But yeah, I thought people would more just sort of jump at the opportunity to like, share their thoughts. But I probably underestimated how like scary is when everyone else is.

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Yeah. Rather than.

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Yeah. I was slightly surprised that you were hesitant in a way to do this because there's a quality about you that I've noticed, because I've known you quite a long time. I've known you from primary. And what I've noticed is that you have a certain quality where you're interested in people. Really, I think you like to have these many debates with people sometimes prese because maybe a couple of drinks get people going. But even just day to day, I like to have little conversations.

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But you're also very good at asking people just how they feel in a very disarming way.

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I can give you an example.

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I remember we went to when we were about 14, 15, we used to go to grumping flyers. You know, up until then, I don't this is a weird thing. Always sticks in my memory. We didn't go for that long, but I remember we were waiting to get picked up to go home. And you asked me just out of the blue kind of whether I had a crush on. I'm sure she doesn't care. It was like six years ago, but my cousin Jamie and it caught me so off guard.

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Bob was also like I felt comfortable enough to tell you because you just sort of asked in a way that was so genuine and like, interesting. And it probably was actually something I could get off my chest and wanted to share. And I also caught me off guard because no one really, particularly guys, I think we never really ask each other how we feel, especially so young at age. So, yeah. Isn't that something I've never really experienced before?

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So that's one sort of older example. So is there something you noticed about yourself or is it something. Yeah. When I read your questions, that's not legal. I thought you were going to mention. Yeah, I think I like to like debate with people. Yeah. Like I think a good way to learn about someone is to have like an almost like an argument and discussion. You see what they're like, passionate about what they're interested in.

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And then I think the more times you do it, you realize that like the best way to to initiate that is to like see someone else's point of view or like, open it up first. Yeah. If you come up, people were like just your views straight away. It's like because it's like a hit a wall. You don't really get anywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely you must go into the conversations though. So knowing that you can change your mind, do you or do you go into compensable you know.

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Yeah, I definitely try to keep an open mind. Some like as I say, part of me is just arguments to just pick and debate. But yeah, I think that like discussing stuff with someone and especially with someone like you're pretty close to you can learn like a different viewpoint and like kind of change your perspective maybe. And there's always like that option where what you thought initially might be wrong. Yeah.

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It's also though, in the example I get, it's not always so statistical debates or something political or anything is somewhat you're asking people about their feelings, about their emotions, which I don't remember really ever happening too much. But so early age, early teens, was that ever something you were conscious of that you were doing or was it just I want to say yes, I think I think part of me, again, is just nosey. So, like, OK, yeah.

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But I think, like, yeah, I like to kind of see what's going on. And, uh, I don't really know how you'd say it. Like, it's I can remember more doing it with like logical arguments, like having discussions with things or something. I can remember more doing it then. Yeah. But like I can see times or maybe ask people straight up rather than. Yeah. Because if you beat around the bush too much, especially over like messaging stuff.

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Yeah. Like not really getting anywhere. Yeah. Definitely doesn't matter. Yeah. If it doesn't work it doesn't work but yeah. It's better to just go for it I think. But I think it's always like I don't know, I think it's maybe a it's a hard quality to train yourself to do so. You either have or you don't ask people and you feel immediately comfortable telling them. But I think it's a quality you have. So I think it's fun as well.

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When when it works once or when it works, that's a but like when it when it opens up a discussion and stuff, you can learn to do it more. Yeah. It kind of gives you more confidence doing it if it's worked before. Yeah. And like it's had a positive result from the time before that. You're more like to try again and then again and again. Yeah. That's a really good point.

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Do you kind of sound like a strategy or. No. No, I know it sounds good.

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Do you like giving people advice and help when they when they do open up to you? Is that something you enjoy doing or do you just maybe like it for the nose, you know? So no, I do. I mean, I want to study pursuing a degree in medicine. So, yeah, huge by that degree is like wanting to help people. Yeah. So I have always enjoyed helping what it's been like. I have three younger siblings, so.

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Yeah. Being a part of like helping them or other people, I do enjoy giving if I don't always give the right advice. Yeah. They give anyone the wrong advice deliberately but like I do. But you always try. Yeah I always try.

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I do enjoy helping people and giving advice and that's something I never actually thought the link between that's sort of opening people up. Giving advice, maybe links how you've grown up with, like younger siblings and you've got a family where you're all basically helping each other. Yeah, in a sense, I'd like to think my siblings listen to me all the time. Oh, yeah. That's that's really interesting. I never thought that. Do you think it's important, like you said, to have your views tested in the debate style format?

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Yeah, no, I, I think it's hugely important to have them tested. I think, as we've mentioned earlier, like, you can sell something with like a strong point of view. And like I listen to this podcast by Freakonomics, and they were saying that, like, we're very good at finding out information that supports your own bias. Yeah. The view confirmation bias. Yeah. There you go. So even if you're on a way, you're doing it.

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So then when you have your views tested, when you speak to someone who's got a different point of view, it can like you maybe hear things and learn things that you wouldn't. Yeah, exactly. On a slight tangent, I think that's something that I'm guilty of. But it's really poor maybe about social media. Is that, for example, on Twitter, I will follow like everyone that I agree with and not follow anyone. So I get so tired of looking like this.

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So all I'm like all I'm accessing is just stuff. The phones and the like confirms the worst arguments of the other side, if you will. So it maybe makes our generation at most the more so opinionated and stubborn. In a way, it's almost open to hearing other views.

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Yeah, the social media, especially, as you said, like it's there's no on Facebook and Twitter. So if you only follow you only like you don't you don't write or anything, you never see. You just I mean, it's in their interest to show you things similar to what you like. Yeah. If you'd like something that's this push towards the West, Twitter, again, like you kind of have an actual sustainable argument as well because it's only one of our characters long.

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Yeah, actually, yeah. I don't know. Um, maybe the skill that we've talked about you opening people up, this may maybe a bit of a different subject, but maybe when it came to relationships that was maybe help you, especially during school, you weren't afraid to ask me. So straight out whether I felt about something, maybe that confidence, like you said, it made it easier to do it again and again. Maybe it helped you with someone that you maybe had a crush on or you were interested in.

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I don't really know, actually, when when I was reading through the questions you gave me or the. Yeah, the questions. I remember doing it with like people and discussions and stuff, but I never thought I was very good at it in relationships. OK, I guess it must have been if I was doing it with other people, must have been something that would have helped me in relationships when I was younger. But like I don't remember doing it.

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I don't ever like, think I knowingly did it in relationships I was never very good at, like starting conversations in relationships. My problems is like things that I was like build up before I finally said them. So yeah, I wasn't very good at opening up myself. And so I can't imagine I would have been great at OK. Asking someone else is pretty normal that you're less comfortable, like exposing yourself to people that you maybe care about the most.

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Um, but yeah, it's definitely something that I've said on this podcast before that until so recently have not been very good at communicating how I feel about someone, especially if I'm interested in them.

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But this it's hard for ever. Like, yeah, it's not just something. Any chance it's it's difficult. Yeah it is. It is definitely tricky. But um. But it wasn't something you were really aware of. Well and if you weren't aware of it, you know, I didn't I guess if it was something I did, I mean maybe I did it like subconsciously. Yeah. And like I'm sure it would have helped because like it's like opening up a discussion that's never really a bad thing.

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Yeah, but I don't I can distinctly remember doing it with specific people and like having arguments and debates and stuff.

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But yeah, I don't ever remember doing it in relationships, I think with my wife because I've thought about this a lot and I've I've made offers of more made up. I thought of a sort of theory for myself. So forgive me for going above around, OK, I thought when I was in primary and these relationships I know don't really count because it's like holding hands and stuff. But whenever I was in primary, I'd like a couple girlfriends in quotes, but they always asked me whether I wanted to like.

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Peter boyfriend, they always came up to me, so when, like my first year of academy, yeah, in my mindset, I was always thinking that they're going to come up to me. So I guess to I'm single as three. I'm single. I'm single once the next person to come up to me and say, hey, Jonah, whoever goes for lunch or whatever. And it wasn't till like a third year, fourth year that I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm going to have to make the first move here.

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And by that time, other people like yourself, maybe like other people, have already started going in asking other people and maybe getting a yes. But more importantly, people saying no to them, because that's the scariest part, I think, because if I'm I'm like this like end of the world scenario, if I ask someone out and they say, no, but I just feel like if I start doing it when I was younger, I would have been exposed to people saying no to me.

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I would feel less like, well, the sun rose, the next world didn't end because someone said no. And I think that's maybe where I've struggled and why I was maybe later and realizing I mean, I guess what you like when you're young, like you don't really think any better. Like my first girlfriend, I think I saw it like three times before. I said, yes, I'd like to do that now. And you'd be like, oh, my God.

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But look, back at the time, you didn't think anything of it. Yeah, I did at the time. But like, nothing too major. And because you don't know any better, you're kind of like you're making friends with people, like maybe saying things that you like nowadays should hold back because you're worried what they say. Yeah. And I think you do it then because you don't know any better and it gives you the confidence to then do it maybe when you're older.

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Exactly. Yeah. Because only now probably I just go up to someone. Yeah. Like yeah. Um, I feel like I maybe should have started younger and I would have helped. But you moved away to America when it was absolutely the same age I think about. I moved to cool temperatures like, you know, twenty minutes away. I kept going to the same school though. You moved to America and obviously changed school. What age was may have been like six leaving when we did the flyers like fifteen, fifteen, sixteen.

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So it's quite a difficult age to up and move to somewhere completely different. Were you happy and moving away or maybe did you hold it against your parents. So taking you away from friends? Um, I really didn't want to move actually like everybody else in my family did want to move. And it was a little ironic because like when we were younger, I was the all-American sun. Yeah. It'd be really cool and stuff. But like, I had such good relationships here.

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Yeah, I like good friends and like a great school and stuff like everybody else wanted to move. I think it was maybe because my siblings are younger and like my parents like me, I made sense to me. Yeah, I understand why we did it, but like I really didn't want to. And like I remember for like six months before I was going to be put off, put off. And I think I was going to say no, I was going to stay with my gran, OK, six months to the end of fourth year, I'm going to get the bus to school with you and.

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Yeah, and then if I left at the end of fourth year, then in my mind that's another six months I get to stay and whatnot. OK, no, I really didn't want to go actually. Yeah. When we first decided that we were leaving, was it more to do with your leaving friends here or family like the extended family were leaving or what was in particular that made you want to stay with your girl? It sounds like I mean, my grandma really nice and lovely and like so the rest of my extended family, but we don't see them.

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Like, I'm not super, super close. Yeah, like, it's nice being back here, nice being with them. But like, it was more like the school and like specifically people I had at school that were like, you were comfortable here. Yeah, I was like I didn't really want to like, go and uproot my life and like, move all over again. Like, I seem to really like daunting thing at the time. Like it's like the other side of the world looks like a whole new.

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Yeah.

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It was like miles away because I imagine like all of us, like your friends were thinking, oh, it's going to go to America, how cool. But when you think about if I if my friends that's why I came to America, I'd be like I think I'd be the same as you. I don't want to. Yeah, I enjoyed it like I did. But it was just right up until the day before we left. I really didn't want to go.

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Yes. Like everything was here for me. And like we had such good basketball on a Friday, we'd like, yeah. Play sports, we make good friends, we do stuff with a girlfriend and everything. It was like seemed like everything was nice and comfortable here. Yeah.

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And ended up to start again effectively. You talk to me about new sports teams, find these new friends, although I would say the. How much of a solid base that you had here, friends there, as soon as you came back or whenever you came back to visit, it was like you never left, he says, sort of like slotted back. It was really nice for you guys because it did feel like I was in all our group shots.

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Yeah, yeah. PlayStation stuff. So when I came back, like, I knew all the gossip that's going on and, you know, it used to blow my parent's mind. I was like trying to you and PS4 and say, yeah, um. Yeah. What was it like, like when you got over there starting a new school. It was an international school. Yes. Yes. So maybe that made it a bit easier or harder.

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Yeah, it was definitely it was easier because an international school went away from us when we moved. We moved in the October holidays to sound like an unusual time to move. Yeah. So when we went initially, there was like a week and a half of like the holidays. I didn't know anyone and none of our stuff had arrived. It was like all in this big container. Yeah. We really had nothing to do. OK, so it was a bit like for that, like we could underwhelming.

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Yeah. It was like it kind of just something like I spent most time talking to people here. You guys would be six hours behind or ahead. Yeah. And so like I couldn't talk as well. There wasn't really much to do. But then when school started, they kind of the downside of moving during the holidays and not having any of that week and a half was that when school did start, I was like the only new kid, OK?

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And so there was maybe 60, 65 people in a year then like four or five days. Everybody knows. Yeah, you maybe don't remember the names, but you know everybody. Yeah. And so it was really nice and easy to I mean, there was people from like some of my friends now, like lived in Aberdeen and we're over there. Yeah. There's also people we go to primary school, we have a baby group. It was all kind of like such a small world.

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So when school actually did start, it was nice and easy, like and yeah, especially as an international school, same language. They do English GCSE and stuff. So, yeah, it's not really that different. You have to go back there though. Yeah. Was that frustrating. Yeah, hugely frustrating actually. Um I guess it was because they didn't understand the whole not five year system. So for people that don't know we had to change our curriculum.

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We're sort of the guinea pig, we're sort of the Scottish qualification system getting bigger. So they didn't understand really neither did the people of Scotland, really. But the English system or international system, it didn't make much sense. So you had to sort of take a year. But yeah, yeah, I made it easy making friends, though. I've always had that. Like when I started school, er I started a year behind, so like I'd done most of the stuff we were doing.

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And so you could focus on the sort of social aspect that I wanted to worry about with school wise for a while. I was really just nice and easy. So like really easy to make friends. Yeah. Social events and stuff. Um do you think it maybe made it easier when you were starting university, so you came back from living in Houston, you came to study back in Aberdeen and that's where I study as well. So was it although you had like a couple of people like myself, Fraser and Liam Mason, they were all in Aberdeen.

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But do you think it made it easier to maybe meet friends? Sports teams are on your course because skewed fairly recently, you had to start anew again, not really to a starting uni was such a different experience from like, OK, yeah.

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Like starting school. You've you've got 60, 70 people in your year and like, you know, everyone never knows you. Yeah. You'd sit there in class and then you go to the next class and people in the next class with people and yeah, you play outside at lunch and then you all know each other. Starting uni was like a very, very different like 2000 people in your years. Yeah, I agree. And I think one of the I've said to some of our friends here that I think one of the problems with coming back here and going straight to uni was that when I came back here, like I hadn't seen most of you guys in three or four years.

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Yeah. So I spent a lot more time looking at you guys and stuff. And this Graser is it's really nice to have our friendship group. You maybe don't like make the most of take advantage of the stuff that goes on at uni. Yeah. I definitely like the people that go to Glasgow or even further like that. Probably don't know anyone. Well they're forced. Yeah. And like what, you don't want to go out and like don't want to go to a social event.

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You go anyway and then you kind of build friendships based on like similar experiences. Yeah. I think you don't get that so much having like you could just be like, oh no, I'll just go out with my friends on Friday instead of tonight. Yeah, but thanks for offering. So yeah.

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It's um, it's something I noticed. It's interesting that you say it though, because I thought it was more something that was particular to people who stayed at home. All the people I talked to by I suppose even if you're living in homes and we're coming around and hanging out with your lights, it's not as easy to say. Well, it's easier to say yes to me or someone you know better. Than to go out and randomly speak to someone, I must there must be even harder, though.

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I mean, when I moved into holes, there was three other people who I didn't know had friends that way. But I guess at home you don't don't even have that kind of flatmates to make friends with. Yeah, I have to go for it. It is a lot harder and probably first or second year. I never really spoke to anybody on my quarterly performance tutorials, but. So because you kind of get put. Yeah, exactly. But I can never walk out.

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Maybe even if I was in holes similar to your situation, I could never work out how I'd go from, like, having a nice conversation with someone on a tutorial to saying, do you want me outside? I just looked at all. I could never work out how to make that sound natural rather than like being my friend, doing a faucet that like, yeah, you're very aware that, like, you want to go to uni and make friends with like people with similar interests, because in lectures it's pretty much impossible when the lectures are so vague that tutorials were really the only chance I had if I wasn't because I wasn't in holes.

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But more recently, I've been trying to people on my course and then they've introduced me to their friends. And it's it's sort of spiraled a bit more. I guess I get older, like, spend more time. Yeah. And like I said, not just with people like I have a crush and I'm interested in I'm just probably just better off putting myself out. Yeah. But I'm just probably better at putting myself out there a bit more now just.

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Yeah. As you said, probably a maturity level but yeah. With the whole that's definitely a bit easier. But like you said, it's still difficult. Yeah. Well that is a huge head start though almost because I had one musician, one medic and one engineer. And so instantly you mean three very different. Yeah. That are going very different paths. And then as you said with your friends, like they introduced you to them, they introduced you to their friends.

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There's some people I see around town and say hello. And I never would have met them if it hadn't been for like my flatmate introducing me. And then you kind of make. Yes, like I've made friends through the years through. Yeah. Mason or just sticking with people that you like. Like most. Yeah. The more people you meet, the more opportunity there is for you to find the people you like.

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Yeah. That's best friends with. So similarly to that, you start playing lacrosse, which is probably the most social sports team. I think they're actually advertised and it was the where the club. So go out on a regular basis. So it is something you like to go on nights out, you like to go clubbing, which is something well I don't like. I do it and I enjoy it, but I don't do as much as it is, you know.

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So what is it particularly about going out nights on clubbing when you enjoy? I think first off, like having living in town is just it makes a whole lot easier because. Yeah. To worry about, like getting home and you can kind of go, yeah. Like I got to take a bath. Yes. So that's a that's a yes. A huge help. But I think for me I don't actually enjoy the clubbing so much. OK, it was it's the praise or the like socialising for that kind of like stuff that happens in the way that.

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Oh yeah, I like the the conversations you have maybe outside or on the way home, the debates maybe. Yeah. And people that's good. But like when you're in like a club there's some like really good nights but like more often than not maybe. Yeah it's exactly it's Haramis whereas like crazy stuff is always quite good. Yeah. It's always my favorite part is the bit before with your mates and stuff. Um maybe I'm projecting just slightly on you put the night out and maybe going for Prez and having events where you go out drinking could be an outlet for you to relieve stress of what is a pretty heavy going course that you do like.

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Right. I'm last semester was utterly ridiculous. How little I know. I had four hours a week for most days. Yeah. Yeah. So I was expected to read a ton by myself, but in actual classes I only had four hours in a week where you'd have more than, than a day.

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Yeah but then you do have I definitely couldn't if I'd been given a certain amount of things to read. I'm very bad for not going home and doing anything that needed. Yeah. There's a lot of self self-motivated. Yeah. But you have more, probably have more assignments and there's just a demanding course that you're on. So maybe this is a way that you can sort of just relieve the pressure of having lot. Maybe in some ways I don't add what I thought about it.

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I enjoyed nights more like the actual night, so, yeah, in first year, OK, and the course is easier. OK, so I guess that kind of counteracts one. So I don't know, like, in some ways you kind of look forward to a busy week or if you like, at the end of exams is nothing better. Yeah. You finish your exams and you can go all your friends. I guess it's not maybe not directly, because when the first year and the course was pretty much all, we just it was just schoolwork.

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That's probably also just first year.

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A lot of people have to go I on new and. Exactly. Yeah. And you finally do. You're turning 18. Yes. Yeah. You're allowed to go out clubbing basically. Well before that, you know, another something also I picked up we recently went on holiday to Lagos's like a group of 10 guys and there would be times where we went out and people got pretty drunk when we went out. And but you always seem to have your head screwed on.

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And it is something that I see now. And again, obviously, I don't go out with you as much as maybe other people, but it's something that I noticed is that you're pretty good at making somewhat rational decisions and looking out for other people on inital. So although you always seem to be like, really enjoying yourself, like, yeah, I'm like you always you're the person that I think most always is. I don't know how to avoid it, but you always seem like you're having a great time when you're on a night out.

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But you're also making sure everyone else is having a good time. And how do you so make this balance or is it something that you don't think about yourself?

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Yeah, I'd love to sit here and say, yeah, that's me. Always screwed on. Yeah. No, I, I it's funny you say that I sometimes don't enjoy the nights so much. Okay. So I try to like get other people to have fun again. OK, I was ready for the night. I think you're referring to a lot of us when we went home you mean. Yeah. Jamie, I wasn't really enjoying that night very much and it was, it was a couple of friends that were going to cheer me up.

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And so I was like, OK, well, OK. Yeah, yeah. I guess people say to me something is a bit boring when I've had something to drink or like because I'm just really not that different, like even if I had quite a bit to drink. OK, I guess maybe just like a little more confidence or something, but not that much different from what I usually am. So I guess. I don't really know where I'm going with this, actually, but I mean, in Lagos in particular that night that you're mentioning, you mean Jamie went back?

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Yeah. After the bar is closed, you absolutely convinced Jamie to go home by saying you'd make him a cheese toastie. And most people I think he was pretty drunk enough to not remember that. You promised him a cheese toasty. But still, when you got home, you made this thing. And it was so nice of you to because quite clearly, I think he would never have found you. So the fact that he still even made him the cheese toasties tells me that you are, um, they are somewhat switched on and that your friends on a night out, I think.

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Yeah. For that night, I really wasn't enjoying that night, OK. Like I said, it was Matthew had said before he was really trying to cheer me up. I was just I was really having none of it. Yeah. I don't know why I was really wasn't enjoying it. So then I felt bad for, like, telling Jamie to leave and it seemed to be so desperate for some food. Yeah. OK, I promised your toast.

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I'll make a toast. And I think because I was enjoying this much, a bit more so we're like, even if you're drunk as much, you're a bit like the car, but cooler and like, yeah, that's kind of excitable and energetic. So. Yeah, yeah. Well I think it's something you're quite good at from I may be limited compared to other people's experience of Ismaeel. I'll just say that anyway. Sorry. Laughter That way.

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Yeah. I'll move on to the questions because that's all cool. I've really got. Um so the first one is do you have a go to snap like flapjacks. Oh yeah. Get the packets of like really nice one person or page that everyone should follow on social media. Yes.

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They're like a YouTube channel ok. There's like four guys and they just do all kind of like crazy things on YouTube. Oh cool.

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I never heard of a guilty pleasure watching TV of any kind, but like watching like old friends episodes. I've seen them. OK, old office, binge watching old. Yeah I've seen it before. OK, uh, a favorite curse word. I like to think I don't curse too much but probably shit shite times but like. Yeah. In between one of them. Now you're right, you don't really think um what's your favorite quality you have about yourself.

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I think we've got a dependable like I think if I say I'm going to do something or if someone asked me to do something, I'll just get it done. I think that's probably one of my better qualities.

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Yeah. And what's something you'd like to improve about yourself a bit? The more positive? I think sometimes I look at things that negatively, like my mood, bring someone else's mood down. I think I kind of look at it in a positive attitude versus maybe there is a quality to improve on anyway. Great.

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Well, thank you again for joining us. There's been a wee break in between me during the last one and this one. So it's nice of you to sort of break that streak. Yeah. Thank you very much. Qu. So that was my conversation with Daniel running. Thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed it. And, uh, hopefully it won't be too long away until you hear from me again.