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The Around the NFL podcast. Knows the NFL AI Overboards put two games on tonight to annoy Mark. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. I am Dan Hans. I've got Mark Cessler here. I've got Greg Rosenthal. Yes, two Monday Night football games, a source of annoyance. Sure. But then the games unfold and I have to say, and I'm curious your thoughts, Mark, that was the most fun I've had watching football this year. Because of the two games, the quality, the uniqueness of them, the endings for both, the plotlines, this probably means we'll have two Monday Night Football games for the rest of time now because the NFL will think this can happen every week. But I really had a great time watching football tonight and now we get to talk about it, which is cool. Cool as well.

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Yeah, I told Greg before we got on that I had not even a hot tick just to take about what this evening, what it unraveled in terms of a red carpet for the rest of our lives is, I think this set the table for this happening probably eight weeks a year, if not every week. Because it worked tonight, let's be real. I think you watched the end of this giants game and we'll get into it. At that point, there was about two, two-plus minutes left in the Dolphins game, which seemed out of reach. It's like, Of course, one of these will be sealed up. Then what unfurled from there was complete zaniness. It is an NFL schedule makers, an NFL mastermind's dream. I think the Dolphins game was one of the craziest settings I've witnessed all season.

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This was a bolt of lightning. You could put two Monday Night games on every Monday night for the next five seasons, and you might not get a Monday Night like Tommy Cutlets going down the field after they up a big lead, followed by a team, gagging away a lead in a manner that literally hasn't been done this century at the exact same time. These were two of the most memorable games of the season, and they happen to happen on the exact same night. I'm with you, there'll be more of these nights, but I don't think they'll be a night quite like this one because it was just too freaking crazy.

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I'm working with Zumwalt on the drop today, one of the other angles I was going to take was that this was a mistake made by the AI bot. They just said, All right, well, we didn't realize until it's too late. We sent out the schedule, so let's just play two games. Did anyone else find it odd and maybe borderline disturbing that at half time of these games, it was the same score, the same general game script, the same vibe with a underdog leading a favorite. It was almost like the simulation was exposed Truman's show style. That changed in the second half. That was also comforting to me.

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Yes. We do text with Zemwalt a little bit during these affairs when there are these island games. Naturally, he was going nuts over Davito, and I like it too. I'm from the tri-state area. I think it's a cool story. But there was a part of me, it's like if.

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All of this was- I thought you're from Surrey.

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I am from multiple places, but I lived... I know, I understand that, Dan, that you grew up in the this hard-hitting coal town where everyone has a lung disease. But we actually grew up about 30 minutes away from each other. The Davito thing, I knew a billion people just like that, as did you. To me, it was like, This is so surreal at the end of this season that it feels like someone's come in and scripted large chunks of what we experienced with the NFL. Both of these things were happening tonight at once because Will Levis also feels like he was pulled out of 1988 like www. Paul Orndorf World. I am just floating and wondering what's happening.

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Yeah. Why don't we dive into it? I find myself actually feeling as someone who grew up in the same area as Tommy Cutlets, I almost feel like I'm missing out. I felt like this my whole life, to be honest with you, growing up in a town that everyone was a giants fan, I always felt like I was missing out. Once again, it just feels like it's just fun to be a giants fan. Even when there are dark times, you mix in these moments and they're having one right now with DaVito and having to download the whole Tommy DaVito situation to my wife on the couch today and then my kids roll over and they get invested in the game. It was so much fun. But we got to start. We got to start with the game that I had... Because I was distracted because my whole family was so into this DaVito situation. That game is 27-13, of course, Dolphins and Titans. It's 27-13 with less than five minutes to play after two monumental gaffs, turnovers by the Titans, turned a tight game into one that Miami was coasting to a win. Then things got super weird.

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Let's start with the final play of note. Here, so he did not get out of bounds, apparently. There's the.

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Difference, right? Didn't get out of bounds. The Titans were.

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Getting out of bounds on a regular basis in their.

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Situation, and they had the ball.

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Two yards here to keep the game alive here. Tua in traffic. He'll be brought down in Tennessee. He's going to secure an incredible, probable comeback victory and win for the road on the first time this year. My goodness to a take and down. Was that Harold Landry with the Sack?

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Yes, that was.

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The nail in the coffin for the Dolphins who were four minutes and 34 seconds away with a two-score lead from taking over the top seed in the A-C with four games to go. Instead, they watch it all fall apart as Tennessee goes touchdown, two-point conversion; three and out touchdown, P-A-T, Dolphins, drive, stalls, final score 28-27, and one of the more probable comebacks in the history of Monday Night Football. Greg, we could talk about either team here because the Dolphins are obviously the team that are still 9 and 4 and in great playoff position and still heavy favorites to win their division, so their season is not over here. But at the same time for Miami, it's like you really want to see how the Dolphins react, what stomach they have, how they move forward after a game that sucked a lot out of their sales.

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I mean, it is unconscionable. There is no precedent. We got all the researchers out there trying to figure it out, but it's believed this is the biggest lead anyone's given up in that short a time to lose in regulation. You see all these stats out. It had been 767 straight games with a 14-point lead, three minutes to go, the team wins. But most of those, when you have the 14 minutes, you win in overtime. People are going back. The closest they can find is a '70s game with the Stealers and the Dolphins. Even that took a little longer during this comeback. It happened because of Levis', Huevos, the plays he made. I know he didn't have a good night overall, but there's a crazy play that Tajay Spears makes who was part of a very similar comeback for Tulane against USC in the final five minutes of a huge bowl game that was insane. Then there was the best throw he had of the night to Westbrook, Akina. The two-point conversion might change how coaches look at two-point conversions forever more. They already were. But Mike Vrabel passed the down by eight going for two-point conversion test, which a lot of people all season long are like, Why are they doing this?

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I don't understand why they're doing this. Them getting on the plane with a victory is why they did it. They hit the two so that they could win in regulation after the Dolphins messed up two offensive possessions. They tried to run it three times. They dropped back to pass on their third down. It ended up being a three and out after Tua made a bad decision to scramble, and then right back down the fields to de-hop to a conco. The defense just felt as much as Tua looked frazzled and blew that ending sequence, and we can talk about the Dolphins blew it. The fact that their defense had been so good all night and then just watched Levis and Hopkins go heroball and Westbrook, Hakeena, and Spears, it was an amazing defensive collapse from a defense that had been playing so well over the last two months.

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Yeah, because I go back to when the DeAndre Hopkins decided to go to the Titans. I know he didn't have a billion offers, but it was like, That feels like an odd fit. This team feels slightly out of it. They don't have a lot going on an offense. He dominated tonight. They don't win that game without DeAndre Hopkins looking like the Hopkins from years ago. Tajay Spears was incredible. The Dolphins' defense, which has been even without jail and Philips, a total positive in the last couple of weeks. A reason that you believe in them completely collapsed. Part of me wonders, do players, just from a human angle, think when they're up by the way they're up historically, Greg, to your point that no one comes back in that situation? Did they just collapse and were they taken out of the game a little bit? From a Dolphins angle real quick, Toa had plenty of time and was put into a situation that if you're a to a believer, you want to see that happen for that argument. And if you're a to a doubter, you want to see what happens for your side of that.

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I think the loss of Connor Williams early in the game mattered a lot in this. They didn't have to try on to Armstead. We know what happens to Miami's offense when they don't have to try on to Armstead. Tyree Kille was not present for large chunks of the game and not present at the end there. And it's like you take a few pieces away from the Dolphins and they look completely different. And this was a Titan's defense that took them down at the end without Jeffrey Simmons. I mean, it was just like an insane collection of events all at once. Some of the personnel situations on both sides don't make a lot of sense for how that happened. It was a classic Mike Rable win when you didn't expect what happened.

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Yeah. Tyree Kille suffers the ankle injury early, look really bad. Another hip drop tackle and they're going to obviously, I think, change the rules to protect these guys because it's so gnarly every time it happens and he's out of the game for the rest of the half. He shows up in the third quarter and just hits the ground running again, looking like full Cheetah with some big chunk plays. But he's in and out of the lineup, including at the beginning of that final drive. With, yeah, I mean, that final drive, that's money time. You got to find a way at home to stop the bleeding, to pick up your team. They just didn't seem to have it together. It was almost they were playing a little bit like a team that was shell-shocked by what happened there. I know Bradley Chubb said out to the game, according to our own Cameron Wolf, that we probably let our foot off the gas a little bit. Then when it was time to pick it back up, I think there was a general sense of panic. You could even feel it, even in the building, you could feel it.

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At Hard Rock Stadium, there was just this like, Wait, what just happened? Just going over it again. Like I said, with 434, there's a touchback. It's 27, 13. Tennessee then goes nine plays, 75 yards, ending with a Levis to D-hop touchdown connection. They get the two-point conversion, as Greg said. That was an expert drive that they got out of bounds. It was just clinical. Miami takes over, but they're still up six with 2:40 to play. It's just.

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Like get a couple- 1:54 to go that touchdown. It's crazy.

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Yeah, just get a couple of first downs and it's over. Yet they go run, a short run, gain, short run gain. Tennessee burns both timeouts and then Two-A scrambles. They're short of the sticks again. But Eisenberg gets called for a holding, which is critical because it allows the clock to stop. Tennessee gets to keep their final time out in their pocket. Then there's the pun. When Tennessee takes over and they go 64 yards and four plays, another de hop catch was the big play, they have two minutes and 14 to play. That's the craziest thing, Greg, about all this is-.

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They left.

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Too much time. They left so much time. We hear all these stats that we're hearing like that this is one of the greatest comebacks ever. They got the ball back in good position with good time, and then they took advantage of it. It wasn't even like a scramble to score that go ahead touchdown. Everything went their way.

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There wasn't anything other than there was a Spears bobble that he turned into a nice game to start the first drive. There wasn't anything fluky or weird. There were just incredibly ballsy throws by Levis. I mean, the touchdown throw, his composure to open up the passing lane that he ends up finding Hopkins with was awesome. The throw before that was just beautiful. He had an insane night where I can't remember a quarterback taking that many big hits early in the game. There was one after he had already taken a massive hit and they were checking his shoulder out on the sideline where he was running it on, I think it was a first and 10 at the 12, and he's got a big runway, and he's got three defenders in front of us. He does a little hop, like he's looking at the guys like, I'm going to get myself momentum here to try to run you over on the goal line. And it didn't work. He just got blasted and he got knocked down at the two. And this guy just plays with an incredible aggression. Some poor guy got chest bumped out of his shoes on the sidelines, some staffer for the Titans.

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Meanwhile, Tua absolutely came up small in that final drive, taking that sack on that final play and the quick throw. I know that's where the play call was probably going to go over to H-Jane, who saved the play, but not really before. It didn't seem like a quarterback who felt calm and knew what he was going to do in this situation.

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Here's Tua on how things played out in the end. We got to do a better job finishing the game with the time that we had while we had the ball, not allowing their opposing teams offense to.

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Get that opportunity to go down and.

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Potentially score. It's team sport. I can't blame one side, but I would.

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Say from an.

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Offensive standpoint, there's things that we could have done a lot better to not have gone through what we've gone through tonight.

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What a couple of days for the Baltimore Ravens because we've seen the Chiefs go down, the Jaguars go down, the Dolphins go down. They now hold a one-game lead in the AFC. They look like they should, too. Some of these losses, I can think of a couple in the past couple of weeks where it's like, Oh, this is what the Dolphins' playoff will look like to me. I felt that way with a couple of these lions defeats, it's like, Oh, this is how they'll go down in January. There's going to be this moment where we're left talking about a Dolphins team that in the final moments, this is how they were incomplete. To me, it's like if they're missing a few people, they're just not the same team. I think Mike McDaniel is an incredible coach and has done so much well out of the gate. But this was a total collapse. A lot of it to me felt neck up. We've all talked about it. They just seemed shell-shocked. They seem lost. They seem to not understand what was happening in the final couple of minutes against a team that came in with four wins.

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Right, Dan, I think we shouldn't lose for people that didn't listen what the first three quarters of this game were like, which was the worst offensive game in the Mike McDaniel era. I think that's the combination of why we're being so hard on them. They didn't have a touchdown through three quarters offensively. They had a defensive touchdown, and they kept settling for field goals because they refused to run the ball at the goal line. It took three turnovers, two inside the 10 to get these points where they only got pun return fumbles to get these points because Tua was making a lot of bad decisions. He fell on one Red Zone play. He fumbled another with a bad snap, which wasn't all him, but it was a little on him like.

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It was just ugly. I'm glad you said it first, Mark, because I've tried to hold my tongue a little bit on the dolphins because I don't believe in them. I don't buy into them. I haven't felt that way about them all. I felt that way about them all year. Can they get hot and go nuclear and go through the AFC in January? It's certainly possible because listen, you've mentioned The Ravens on a great day this was for The Ravens, and it was, but I'm watching that we did the game rewatch on NFL Plus, which you could check out now, The win is a dramatic win over the rams. I'm not overly impressed by The Ravens either.

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Didn't that feel like two good teams and two good quarterbacks playing well and tonight did not feel like that? Yeah.

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Well, yeah, that's true, too. I don't mean to take away from The Ravens, but I'm just saying whos like, who wants this conference? And who's the team that's going to step up and get it? Because I'm totally with you, Mark. I've seen enough of meltdowns and failures by this Dolphins team in this regular season that's been otherwise great, nine and four, to tell me that we're going to see some issues in January as well. Make me my words, but I feel like this team is a pretender.

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Yes, I agree.

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The injury situation has been massive for them. That has to be said. At one point tonight- Everybody's got injuries, though, right?

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Like.

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Everybody. I get it. But at one point for most of tonight, they were down to one offensive lineman, one of their starters. So Robert Hunts out. It's not just Armstead. Robert Hunts out. Connor Williams is now out maybe long term. Armstead is out. Austin Jackson is the only one left, and he's getting beat. And Harold Landry had five cubie hits in this game. Harold Landry has been playing great lately coming off in ACL. He did not look like himself for the first half of the season, and he dominated this game. But it wasn't just that... Azavian Howard was in and out of this game. We talked about Tyreke in and out of this game. Javan Holland was out of this game, injured before it. I think they were missing five starters coming into it. I'm just saying when it rains, it pours. They had a couple of things, especially on the offensive line, it is not helping them.

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I'm glad you brought it up because that's important. If Tyreke kills 100 %, does this game end this way? I don't know if it does. But to win the Super Bowl, the teams that win the Super Bowl, they are the ones that fight through it. This is a long season. This is a hard season. It's the December now. It's been a grind for all these teams and the teams that can manage these bumps in the road and these injuries. I just need to see more mental toughness from the Dolphins. If it hasn't shown up by December 11th, I'm not sure when it will, but they still have time to pull together. They're still in first place and they got a nice lead over the Bulls. But you want to talk about another team that had a great Monday night. The Buffalo Bulls are saying, We just got the biggest winner of our season. The Dolphins just gagged away at Monday night game at home. We get that team in week 18. Now we just need a couple more things to fall our way and we might steal this division. This is in terms of losses, this is about as bad as it gets in terms of going from the number one seed and being in the driver's seat to everything being up in the air.

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We're going to learn a lot about the Dolphins in the next few weeks.

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I think this one hurts more, obviously, because of how it ended, but also because it felt like, Toa, to me, was one of their biggest problems. I know the defense collapsed late, but they didn't have, Jaylen Phillips, they didn't have... Who's the other safety that was out? I think they played well, but Toa was struggling throughout the game. That, to me, is a very worrying sign.

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Last word, Mark.

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If you don't have Tyreke Hill, if anything like that lingers, if he's dealing with a... It feels like when he's hurt, he's still 100 %. He's a weird player that way to me. But when he's simply not able to be on the field, they're not the same team. I mean, we keep saying it over and over. I'm looking at the AFC right now real quick. You've got a Jaguars team that has a banged up quarterback, although we didn't look at that way entirely, a fifth place Browns team that's played with four different starters at this point, a Steeler's team without their starter, a CULT's team without their starter. The whole A-C is going through this. But that doesn't matter. A lot of them are like Flotsom and Jetsom and down below. The Dolphins are sitting there, they were our number one seed for a bit. And if you take one or two pieces away from them, they float away. That's why I lack a little bit of trust and to echo what you said, to echo what I said before, to echo what you said, and I said.

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Love the echo effect. James Palmer, the dude, love James Palmer here at NFL Media. He notes that the broadcast noted teams had lost 767 straight games, went down 14 in the final three minutes, and that ended tonight. The AFC is drunk. All right, let's take a break and get into the other one because that one was just as crazy in different ways. Football. Be right back. Officially, 37 yards. The hold, the kick. The win for the giants and Tommy DeVito and Brian Dayboard. They've won three straight. Oh, man, that's Joe Buck with the call. This is a.

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Night… Yes.

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Again. Twice in one week. That's pretty good. Tommy DeVito goes four for four. I mean, it's crazy. We're talking up two as the MVP candidate, and then Tommy DeVito, this undrafted kid out of Don Bosco Prep in Northern Jersey, says, This is how you handle end-of-game drive. You go four-for-four, including a 32-yard pass to Wandell Robinson to set up Big-Bone Randy, Bullock, a 37-yard field goal as time expires, a toning for a miss earlier in the game. The giants nipped the Packers, previously Red Hot Packers, 24-22 at the Metalands. Like I said, my whole life, I've been jealous of giants fans because it just seems fun. What a scene at Metalight Stadium. What a celebration. A lot of it is like, you know how like, Creed, the bad band has become a meme this year and everyone's ironically enjoying Creed and it's everywhere. That's what this Tommy DeVito thing is in a way, where everyone's ironically enjoying this guy who's not really much of a prospect, but they're winning with him. It's three in a row. You have all the memes and the crazy family and the agent that looks like he's an extra from The Sopranos.

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But then look, just on YouTube, that is on the right is the agent who will probably be fired in less than six weeks. But today, tonight, I actually saw Tommy DeVito make big time plays in this game. The stat line doesn't jump out at you, Greg, but big time plays that helped the giants win this game. He was a part of winning the game more than he had been previously. It was just like a fun, silly night and a bad loss for Green Bay.

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Yeah, it's one of the things I love about backup quarterbacks now. They all can run. There is no such thing as in a mobile quarterback anymore. They literally don't exist. So in a worst-case scenario—and Tommy DeVito is way better than a worst-case scenario for a backup quarterback—he can put his foot in the ground and go. And he came into this game knowing, I am taking Sacks at a higher rate than Sam Howell on his worst day. I am taking Sacks at a rate that is just absolutely insane, and I'm fumbling and all this, and I refuse to take Sacks. When he wasn't seeing the open receiver quickly, which happened plenty, he was just putting his foot in the ground and going. It led to some pretty frustrating offense early. You were commentating on our text thread. This is not fun to watch, but he was picking up seven, eight yards. He wasn't making a mistake. He wasn't turning the ball over. In the second half, they were finding open receivers, and Wandell Robinson and Isiah Hodgens made nice catches that throw to Robinson, who ran a beautiful route. This is what this season needs to be about for the giants.

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They're finding young players that can be part of their future. Divito is going to be part of their future, by the way. He might not be their starter next year. I don't expect that. But he might make it easier to move on from Daniel Jones and have him solid as a backup for a long time or whatever it's going to be. Seeing Hodgens standing over the Packers defender and flexing, and then the fast cut to Mr. Divito and the agent giving him kisses on the cheek, I mean, that... That was from the scriptwriter. That was straight, I couldn't believe this was happening.

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It's very surreal to watch. It at one moment, even in terms of physical bodies, like hitting Juan de la Robinson at one point, it looked like it was like Jeff Hossetler throwing it downfield to Phil McConkey, like 35, 40 years ago for the giants. It just was a very strange evening. But I will say this like, Davido, his numbers don't look flashy, but here's what you want him to do, is not make major mistakes. And he didn't. He was what, 17 for 21? I think two of those incompleteions came right away. He was money down the stretch. He had a 126-yard run that showed off his speed. And for me, it's an argument for Bryan Daible. In a season where he was losing the argument in a big way, you're wondering what Brian Daybell was about after winning Coach of the Year, it's like, This isn't someone you think someone could coach up and turn around and have a game like this and do what he did in the final couple of minutes and look the way he did. It's just a completely improbable NFL narrative. It feels totally surreal to me, but so enjoyable.

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I think we're at this point now where every one of these games where an unlikely quarterback does what they do, you're cutting away to the parents. Doesn't that just look like the most parental situation ever for Davito, Dan? I think you mentioned this could have been you in another reality 15, 20 years from now.

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Yeah, there's a resemblance between me and Tommy Davito's father. A more prominent nose on him. I got the smaller Irish nose. He's got the Italian hanker. But otherwise, there's definitely some blood there. He might be an uncle. It's certainly within the realm of possibility. First of all, Davito, on the touchdown throw to Hodgins, he reached 16 miles per hour on the run, which was a top five speed for a quarterback on a completion this season. The run that you mentioned, Mark, down to the goal line, which he might have gotten in on that. They got the on in any way with Barkley. That was really, I mean, this guy is not like Rec League basketball-fast. He's legitimately pro-athlete-fast. He's also making 416 grand this year, which is pretty nice. But Daniel Jones on the injured list is making 46 million this year. I mean, it's crazy and it's a cruel irony for me because we all want to be right on the show when we go out on a limb. I said, I don't want to fork the when they were one and eight or whatever because they said they've already been through the worst of it.

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The schedule softens up. I think Dave was a good coach. They have to get better. If they don't blow that 99 % game against the jets, they're in the playoff mix in the NFC as.

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Crazy as that sounds. They are now.

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They're on the fringes still.

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They're literally one game out of the playoffs. Granted, it's six teams there, I think, or five teams at six and seven. But that blew my mind when they said that going into the game. They said, Well, if they win this game, that knocks down to six and seven. They're only one back of the seven spots.

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But good for Davel. Obviously, great story with Davito, who will never buy a Eggplant, Parmesean in that town ever again because he's already stamped his legend. Now just seeing, he's playing with House Money almost already in his career, and you just want to see where it goes from here. But what a fun scene. Now the Packer's side of it, Mark. We and you've been as high on the Packers as anyone the last few weeks as they've risen, and with good reason because they've been playing so well. I want to kill them because they got to win this game. But at the same time, it was a bit of a weird energy that they went into on the road on Monday night and then it felt like there was some magic in the air. While they didn't play at a high level and love came down and the offense in general was discombobulated. They ran into a little bit of a sneaky buzz. I'm not going to put him out to pasture off this loss. Now, disagree with me. I'd love to hear it. Bad loss, but I still believe in the Packers. I think it was a rough night with a little magic in Northern Jersey.

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I think it was just these NFL moments. There is energy to it. I understand that certain people, the Patrick Clayvons of the world want to believe it's just robots fighting against each other. But there is something that happens in these stadiums. I just think about the noise in the Baltimore Stadium and the game we just reviewed today. The way it felt tonight, there was just something going on where it's like, if you're pulled into that world, you're part of it. I think the Packers have grown up so quickly that we forget where they were just three or four weeks ago and where Jordan Love was just three or four weeks ago. I'm with you. I'm not out on them at all. Tonight happened. But you've got the Bucks at home. You go to Carolina after that. You go to a Vikings team that feels floating away a little bit, and then you've got the Bears. Those are four manageable games. I think you've probably got to take care of three of those, probably. But what we've seen from Green Bay, I mean, we were coming off of Matt LaFlor's, I think, two best coach games.

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Tonight, arrow down on all that. But it's not enough for me to think that the whole thing was a mirage. I think there's a lot to like with Green Bay in a really weak NFC with a bunch of pretenders vying for wild cards. I'm not out on them either.

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This was a game where, unlike the titans and the Dolphins looked like two teams just blowing it back and forth. The Packers just looked like the better team for two and a half quarters of this game and just kept making mistakes and just handing it to the giants. They had three turnovers. There was the interception. By love, there was... Let me think. He had one interception. We had also, what was it? The two Fumbles. They had a pun return. The games were copying each other on some level, but they kept setting the giants up in good spots. Love had the fumble and had the interception, and the giants weren't doing anything with it. I mean, the giants had very little offense for three quarters, and the Packers would move the ball and then just blow open receivers. Love was just missing open receivers. I thought Wink, Martindale did a good job just setting pressure after pressure after pressure, and it made Love overthink it. He was just a step late almost every throw. It was a rough, really three-and-a-half quarters for him until he got the ball back a couple of times down eight points and had two really good drives.

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One, they ended up settling for a field goal, and the next he made his three best throws of the night and ended up getting a go-ahead touchdown. That finished by Love for me helped wipe away a lot of what we saw before. Because if Davito didn't come up with heroics, we'd be talking about how, yeah, it wasn't a great game for love, but that he saved his best stuff for the fourth quarter.

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Right. The giants, it should be stated that the giants had this game nearly salted away. They have a first and 10 at midfield with four minutes to play. Barkley bounces off right tackle, goes 34 yards. They're set up inside the red zone, first and 10 with under four minutes to play with a 21-16 lead. But then he stumbles and fumbles the ball, which is an outrageous turn of events. He's barely fumbled his whole career. Then a great job by Valentin who scoops it up and returns it 50 yards to the giants 36. Then the Packers then March 36 yards on nine plays for the go ahead touchdown and love made big throws. I actually thought, Heath had the touchdown and the great play at the pylon. I thought it should have been a touchdown before that, too. I thought he got two feet down with possession of the ball. I was like, How is that not a touchdown? But they got it anyway. You saw that and missing the two-point conversion. Man, the Ravens got the two-point conversion on Sunday and it saved their butt when the Rams went down the field. Here's what happens when you miss on that two-point conversion because it allowed Randy Bullock to beat them with the field goal when the defense couldn't get the stop.

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I think I've seen some frustration from Packers fans out in the Twitterverse about how Joe Barry and the defense played that final drive to soft, letting the giants... This drives me crazy a lot. It happens almost every single week where it almost feels like the defenses are more worried about getting the clock to go down. Then all of a sudden, you blink and that team's inside your territory and it happened again here.

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Yeah, it was bizarre. You're so worried about trying to keep them in balance that they give up two straight, I think it was seven-yard plays to start it. You were right about comparing Divito and Teua there because Divito wasn't messing around. He got rid of the ball right at the back of his drop with those first couple of throws. With a minute 30, which they had in timeouts, there was no need to hurry. On the fourth play, he hits the big one, and then they sit on it. They had plenty of time. They were inside a 40-yard field goal with 40 seconds to go because that's the thing. You can happily take those six, seven-yard gains and then you just have to pop one pass and they did it. Again, I don't think we should underrate how well Wandell Robinson played in this game because the routes he was running, he's coming off the tournaisio. He finishes with six for 79 on seven targets and also has a 32-yard run that set up their first score. That first score was all schemed up plays by Davel. Robinson, he looks like he's a player. I'm not saying he's going to be a number one receiver, but okay, there is one receiver we can have.

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We think we like Jaylen Hyatt. Okay, like the Packers, maybe we have two young guys that are going to be part of a nice rotation moving forward.

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You do get a Davito versus Jaylen Herts twice between now and the end of the season. He also plays the Rams.

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I mean, the way the Eagles are playing? I'm not so saying-Would we be surprised if one or both of those games are competitive?

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Right. In the giants defense, to be fair, it's played a lot better, including tonight, too, that it's giving them a chance to win these games.

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I think they're a classic beserker with one of the most interesting quarterback situations of the last five years. I am suddenly plugged into watching The New York giants. The Team in...

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I mean, we got Berserkers all over the place. The Titans are a classic Berserker. I think that's a team that could have another weird win here. Giants are a Berserker. The bears have been playing like a Berserker, too, with a top five type of defense and a dangerous QB. There is not much separating these playoff teams from the 4-5 win teams.

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I said to my wife, Davito's agent, who looks like he's about 23, I said he looks like an extra in the Sopranos, that's too kind. He could be a great guy. I'm not trying to bury him. But he looks more like a guy from entourage. I said he better get a good night's sleep because he's got a lot of work to do tomorrow. The amount of money to be made for Tommy Davito at this moment of time, I just hope that he's got his business affairs with the right individual. I have my doubts, but I will apologize if Davito is minted by the end of the calendar year.

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He does look a little bit to me like a cousin of Mad Dog Russo. If you go on your own time, go and examine it. If a cousin of Mad Dog, Russo were dressed in all black, a gold chain and a black fedora, there was some Russo-esque. But, you.

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Know, Russo- It's like if Chris Russo was younger and it was Halloween and the Halloween party theme was a gangster party from the 1920s.

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There you go.

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If he doesn't have his name as the title sponsor owner on a Ford dealership in New Jersey by next Tuesday, the agent's not doing.

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His job. You got to move. You got to move on. You got to get somebody else because you know what else is going to happen with Tommy. Probably his parents are going to get the phone call because they are his legal guardians in a lot of ways still. There's going to be a lot of actual established agents being like, You got to lose E from entourage. We got to be serious about this. That will be a test of loyalty. Loyalty is a bit… I'll tell you what, I'm not Italian, but the Italian Americans in New York, New Jersey, it's all about loyalty. Let's see if he is loyal to that guy.

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Dan, let me ask you one question because I was talking with this about somewhat on our text. They kept mentioning, and I get it, it's a very East Coast thing. I can already answer my own question a little bit, but it's like that the DeVito family, that all these people are bringing food over to the house. In general, you bring food over to the house of someone who no one's able to cook because they've lost a close relative and there's a lot of grieving and you don't want to make someone have to toil and cook for a bunch, so you bring food. Or a baby has just been born. But your son is a successful and one of the most successful New York sports stories of the last two or three decades, so we all bring you food. Is it just because we want to be part of it? I mean, it's not because you need us.

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To cook for you. I think there's probably some of that because then it gives you excuse to go over to the DeVito House right now. But I also know that an Italian culture, food and the sharing of food is an expression of love and intimacy. That's probably part of it too. There's something very warm about it, and I love it.

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I know it's a cultural thing, but he's got to start getting antsy about… I mean, he's a 25-year-old living at home with his parents. I know there's the culture thing, but it's like, I don't know. It's got to be a tough spot. I remember I went back. I know he's in a much different place and everything's different. I remember spending that one freshman summer after I went away to college back at home, living at home, and I was like, Oh, man, I'm never going to do this again. This was a mistake. Why did I even come home for this one summer?

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There are two types of people in the world. The people that cannot wait to get into their own apartment after college and the people that are no great rush. I was actually more in the DeVito camp. I was out of the house, I think, right at my 24th birthday. I think we moved into Hoboken, which is probably where Tommy DeVito's dad is from, right around 24. I didn't mind living at home. I didn't have any money. I mean, it was a great way. That's the issue, yeah. That's the thing with Davito. That's what he's saying is I live rent-free. I get my laundry done. I get amazing home cooking. Everyone's nice to me. They give me some space that I need. My bed is made for me. It checks out. But Greg- It's evolving. I know a lot of people that are like that too, where it's like college is the demarcation line where I don't need to be at home ever again.

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It's a great motivation to make that rent money, but more just like you want to be, you want to feel free, you want to get out. But it is working for him and I love it. It is the most fun giant story that there has ever been.

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Yeah, well, those two, 42 and 46.

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Are a lot of fun. I'm just saying fun.

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It's just fun. By the way-.

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It brings me a little bit of Linsanity, which I was in New York for. It's totally different, and yet it feels like it's of the same piece.

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Of- That is a good parallel. Dan and I just started working in NFL back then, and we were writing NFL. Com articles about Linsanity for NFL. Com, which makes no sense. Football is.

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Completely just like the basketball. I remember we were at the Super Bowl when Linsanity ended. They got blown out when we were in Indy Super Bowl week, and it was like the unofficial end. Let's give Tommy Cutlets the last word. Do you have fireworks go off for a non-touchdown?

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I'm not going to lie.

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That was the first.

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Time I was on the verge to.

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Celebrate, on the verge.

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Of not. I was.

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Like, It wasn't a.

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Touchdown, but we got to say in. The guy who.

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Launched the fireworks thought it was a touchdown. He's just so.

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Much-i appreciate it for that.

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I appreciate.

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The.

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Belief. He seems like a nice boy.

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Shout out to BigBone Randy, by the way, hitting that kick.

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Did anybody else think he was going to miss that?

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Of course, I did. Troy Akeman said what I think we were all thinking. It was like, He looks like he has a lot on his mind right now. It's such a good call.

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You can't be number 46 as a kicker. Especially and also like, listen, I empathize with BigBone Randy. Big guys, we got enough to worry about with our appearance, but when you wear number 46, it just makes you look a little bit thicker.

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I think he's.

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Got to go down to a single digit.

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Maybe he's leaning into it. He's comfortable in his own He's like.

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The Lizzo. He's like the Lizzo?

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You run out of numbers or something? Speaking of Troy, that reminds me when this game was less interesting. I was going to give Troy a lot of love for the rant he took, which I was absolutely feeling in my gut. He was.

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Getting annoyed.

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As the end of this first half was interminable, and this game started falling behind the pace of the Dolphins game down in Miami. I think we have that, Eric, don't we?

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I mean, if it is out of bounds, it's ball at the 40. You've got no timeouts, but maybe with 13 seconds left, you try to get the ball downfield. We'll get the spot. The problem with all this is just make a call. There's 13 seconds in the half. Just make a decision. This is what stops all these games and the officials, I know, they've been talked about every week, but this is ridiculous that we're watching right now. We see something, it takes five seconds, it takes.

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Them five minutes.

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Troy knows. He's got no one to answer to. He gets to call it like he sees it, and that's why they're the best. Finally, according to Next Gen stats, before the first touchdown of the comeback for the Titansans, the Dolvins had a 96.6% win probability in this game. So 0.4% for the Titans. That is the second most improbable comeback in the Next Gen Stats era, which started in 2016. Mark Cessler, do you know what is number one on the list?

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I would guess if I really had to last year's Jets Browns game, that seems so absurd to me.

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You're right. It was point three. That was the Joe Flacko game where the Jets were down 30-17. They got a bomb touchdown, on-side kick recovery, Garrett Wilson touchdown to steal that game in Cleveland. That is week two of 2022. Then number three, the Vikings, week 15 of 2022, I think that's the 33-nothing game, they had a 0.4% chance of coming back in that game, and they did. The Niners, and this one just escapes me, week 18, 2021, 0.4% also, and then the Titans back in week 10 of 2019, fans of these franchises know exactly the game that I'm referring to, 0.5% chance.

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They did it in regulation. That's the thing with all these 767 numbers. That's all winning in overtime. I think they'll find out, but all indications are this has literally never happened to win in regulation.

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Right. The Dolphins had, relatively speaking, plenty of time to go win the game because it happened so quickly. They did it with such ease as unbelievable. I feel, although, Jets fans never feel bad for the Dolphins, I.

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Love me. You were enjoying this one.

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I love me some handsome Hank and Henry Hutchin commented on X. He's a diehard Dolphins fan that he stayed up.

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Let.

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Me see. Hang on. Let me check something here.

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It's a tough night.

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What time is it in London?

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Well, that game would have ended around 4:30 in the morning, around 4:40 in the morning.

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Wait, let's see if Ciri's got this on. What time is it in London?

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You don't believe me?

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It's 5:49 AM in London, England.

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She just has a little more charisma, Greg. No offense. Ciri. It's 5:49 right now. That man is a power player, Mark, in all international dealings in the NFL and in the UK, and now he has to get up in the morning. Being a fan, sometimes it's a shot to the crotch, let's be honest.

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Possibly the future commissioner. I would say he'd be in my top three list of legitimate humans that could be the commissioner. Right currently lives during the week at some points in the room above a pub in London. I'm not sure what was going on at 4:30 in the morning in his world, but he could not have been pleased with the results.

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All right, good way to close it. Let's get out of here. Nice Monday night. Get used to it, Mark. I think you're right.

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It's the future.

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We will be back on Wednesday. It's the Connie Fox show, so please be there. Like I said, NFL Plus, check that out. Rams, Ravens, Rewatch. We had a good time with that. Until then, heat the clock.