The Around the NFL podcast. The number one pick on your team's draft board. From the Chris Wesling podcast studio, it's Around the NFL. Dan Hans is here. Greg Rosenthal there. Mark Sesler also there. And we have reached draft week. It's finally here. We're just days away from knowing where all these young men will be.Not quite there yet, Mark.No.We.

Are almost home.Well, no, because this week we have the mock draft that I'm creating coming up. The mock Sesler mock draft? That's when we will know where they're going. Then the actual draft will just confirm that the next day.

This is a dangerous part of the draft cycle. Like today, Monday, maybe Tuesday of draft week, it was this time, one year ago, that the Vegas favorite to go number two overall was a gentleman by the name of Will Levis. There was also some movement that the Carolina Panthers might actually take Will Levis with the number one overall pick, and the numbers in Vegas moved to... He wasn't the It was separate, but the odds were getting closer and closer that there was a chance that man did not get taken in the first round.No.That'sBad.

Look for the desert.

Good context.

Well, they're just trying to get people to pay.

I know, but I like this.

That's where we come in.Yes. We got your back. In these days leading up to the draft. We will parse through all the whooie and applesauce. It's our job, Mark, in a way, to let our listeners know what matters and what doesn't.

Yeah, I think we're the portal and the prison that you'd want to look through for the truth versus what is a lot of white noise out there and unreliable reporting and whispers, Greg.

Wow. Yeah. I'm remembering that step about-Noice from all different cultures.Yes..

I just want to point out.Not.

Just white noise.That term is not racial. It just means a fog of war type information drop.

Also a powerful Don DeLillo book.

It starts well.

Yeah, confusingly disappointing movie. Not my favorite, but what's his name? Why am I spacing Noah Bomback? We're going to Noah Bomback. But still, we're seeing Adam driver.

What film are we referring to?White.

Noize.white Noize.White Noize. Was it Netflix? This has been Steve Palozo. Zolosby at the old PFF podcast. On Twitter, he's been pointing out what the odds were at this point a year ago. C. J. Stroud was a 5-1, most likely to get the second overall pick. Tyree Wilson was also far more likely at this point, according to the odds, than C. J. Stroud going number 2 It just shows.

Part of our job here is our segment coming up. It's a tradition. It's one of my favorite shows of the year. It is Go Get My Lunch, You Atomic turd. You know what I mean? Where we make predictions about what's going to happen on Thursday, perhaps Friday, Saturday. If we are correct and you are doubted, you end up getting hypothetical sandwiches. That's cool.

Yes. We have some breaking news. Breaking news.

I'll hit it.

Breaking news. Love it. Former number 2 overall pick of the New York Jets, Zack Wilson is on the move. Hey. According to Ian Rappaport. The rap sheet. He's going to the Broncos. Sean Payton, the deal includes a late round pick swap, sixth for a seventh. The Jets will also have to pay some of Wilson's $5.5 million. That's what this is about.

The Jets were holding out hope that they could find someone to eat some of this money, and apparently, at least some of the money, I believe it's over 5 million due. So he goes to the Broncos, and that is... After the Aaron Rodgers Achilles incident, it changed me fundamentally. I no longer view things with rose-colored glasses as a Jets fan. But the only time...

It's all they want to know.

Well, yes, but we're not there yet. But Zack Wilson is the one outlier for me as a Jets fan. It never felt right. It never felt right. I remember draft day. It was in the middle of COVID. Being like, Okay, they seem to really like him. We remember the throw from his pro day. He's a little small. He's a little bit of a pretty boy. He played for BYU. He didn't really face anybody of worth in a strange COVID season. But you just He said, Okay, Joe Douglas. We like Joe Douglas, and he's hot about this pick. That was always Joe's guy, Wilson. It was a disaster. Then when Rodgers did get hurt, he ended up getting three full seasons as a starter, which doesn't happen. A guy that's bad from the jump, getting three years, doesn't happen. That wasn't the Jets' plan either. Their plan was for Rodgers to be the QB and him to be groom on some level. Obviously, that all fell apart as well. So the Bronco's good luck to Zack Wilson. He always seemed like a pretty good guy that got put in a tough spot and did his best but wasn't good enough.

I don't know if Sean Payton can fix him, but the Jets getting him out of the building entirely makes a lot of sense for them. It's another big misstep in franchise history of quarterback, and now they move forward once more.

I mean, absolutely needed for the player to start there. Just like, there's no way that the Jets, the Jets locker room, the Jets coaching staff, Zack Wilson, could endure another regular season drama that involved him on any level.

And he got replaced as the backup quarterback already by Tyrod Taylor.

Yeah, he had to go. I mean, if you want to talk about truth for the draft, I think the Denvers, they've been presupposed to be heat seeking a quarterback in the draft. Don't need to now, Greg.

I don't think it changes their strategy. They needed a third guy along with Jarrett I listed him. Ben DiNucci is also on that roster. I would put-Benny D.Zack Wilson probably over him. If he was ever going to rehab his career, Zack Wilson, and at this point, I think it'd be a good outcome for him if he has a good career as a backup and he's still in the league in five years. I don't think you should assume that. But if he wants to have that career, Sean Payton is a good guy to get him pointed in the right direction. It's a reminder, though, that the draft industrial complex, it's tough. It's like there weren't many. Almost no one was out on a limb being like, No, I don't see Zack Wilson as a number two pick. They weren't even saying, No, I don't see him as a first-round pick. Everyone was in on Zack Wilson. It wasn't just the Jets.

Yeah, and a famous or infamous Depending on your perspective, Jets' late-season win over the Rams in LA caused them not to have the first overall pick. So just looking back again, this is a good draft to periodically check back in because this is a big-time quarterback draft. On Thursday, we're probably going to get three straight quarterbacks taken. 2021, same thing. Trevor Lawrence goes number one. Jury's out. He's a good quarterback. Is he a great one? We don't know. Zack Wilson, two. Trey Lance, three. That's maybe the worst 2-3 ever in NFL history for quarterbacks. That would be an interesting worm hole to go down. Then, of course, you had Justin Fields at 11, not with his team anymore, and Mac Jones at 15, not with his team anymore. It's just Trevor in those top 15 picks, five quarterbacks. Only Lawrence is still with his original team.

Well, I know a couple of weeks ago, I sounded overly cynical about the quarterbacks in this draft, the draft in general, and it was like, No, you're supposed to be infused with hope at this point. But the reality is, all these quarterbacks were I'm talking about, two of them probably flame out on some level.

The red flag seems so obvious now with Zack Wilson.No.No.They're all going to be great.Stop. It seems obvious now. It's like, Oh, yeah. How did everyone fall in love with Zack Wilson? He faced no pressure at BIO. He was protected so well. He's in this lower level. How did we not see that Trey Lance wasn't going to be this guy? I just pushed back on that because almost no one was pushing back at the time. You can say that now, that it's obvious that there were red flags. Very, very few analysts said, No, I wouldn't take these guys at the first round. Everyone was going to take Zack Wilson.

If anything, people wanted to trade up.

The Eagles wanted to trade up for Zack Wilson. Right.

I think even after his shaky start, there were still people. It It reminds me of Sam Darn a little bit, too, where it's like, there are these people with their dug-in heels on these quarterbacks. If you have the draft stock of going number two, someone else out there is going to think they can make something out of you, no matter what's happened. Can Sean Payton do If he can, then he's going to be able to do all sorts of other things because that would be a slight miracle.

He can move. He could throw the football. He could throw the hell out of a football. Everything else has been a mess. He never really aced the test, whether from the neck up, whether he can handle...

He was a little better as a third-year player to the point where you're like, Okay, maybe he can settle in as a Drew Locke improving backup type. Maybe. We'll see.

For a little bit there. Then it got so bad that they were playing guys that were street guys before they I tried to go back to him. I did go back to him, then he got hurt.Just let's close the chapter.Bye-bye. We move on. All right, anyway, so good start. We got a nice lead news item there. Wednesday, the Max Sesler Mark Draft. Shout out to a listener who put that on my radar.

Why did we not come up with that in previous years? I don't know. I put the finger of blame at myself, number one there.

And always try to add something a little bit new to the Max Sesler Mark draft. We're going to have a guest of high esteem in this world that's going to be involved with the process, not with the pics. That's your job.

I encountered this guest to be in the newsroom, and we hashed out a little bit about how it's going to Also, and I got to have some other surprises, new elements that have been been discussed. He's not going to like that.

He doesn't want anyone exciting how it goes. He wants to be the puppet man.

I will have the conversation about how it will go.

I am a human being who is allowed to speak to other human beings. I see what you're doing. You're trying to control the segment. No, no, no.

But you just worry about your 32 pics.

How often are you like, why aren't we? Our newsroom culture is a bit challenged these days. It's quiet in there. It's like, I'm in there trying to talk. We have a newsroom here? Yeah, I talked with David Ealey, talked with this guest. It's like, that's what you do in a newsroom.I'm.

Just sayingShare ideas.I think talking is great. Yeah. Communication is great. But you got a 32-pick draft to figure out, and then Tug Boat's got some other things around that episode to figure out.

Okay, I'll stand off. I'll stand there.

I'm not going to come into your mock draft.

I'm going to be like, Cecil I'm still in the fantasy spectacular and just hanging out, not knowing what I'm doing in the corner.

All right, let's hit the rest of the news.

I'm M&M.

This is Roger Goodell, and we are so fired up this year for the NFL draft. Live from the D You could just say Detroit.

That's what I said. You said the D.

Detroit.

Am I being punked? D.

Pretty good acting by Rock in a big spot.

Yeah.

Enjoyed it.

M&m aging. We had maybe a minor disagreement. I feel like M&M is aging. It was starting to look a little odd there. Now he seems to look more as age in a natural way.

I know that he has undergone some health journeys to try to improve his overall health. I thought he looked good there in that clip.

I thought so, too. Healthy.

The facial hair adds an element, too.

There was a phase where he had a very dark black beard, and I don't know. I wasn't sure what was happening. I had some Tom braided Disney teacup questions for a while there.

But you're down on his looks, Greg.

No, I don't know why I don't want to be put in that position. Privately burying it. I think it's been big. I think between the lions and the Bye-bye, Barry, Doc. And now we got the draft. Like, M&M, NFL. It's a thing. We just need to deliver a Super Bowl appearance here by these lines.

Absolutely. Let's get into the latest around the draft. Let's start with this, something that broke a couple of days ago, and just keep an eye on it. So Jade and Daniels, we talked about it on the podcast last Wednesday. It was reported that Daniels widely believed to be the number two overall pick on Thursday. Was going to visit the commanders who have the number two overall pick. And then it was weird because there was, what, three other quarterback prospects all bunched into the schedule at the same time. And everyone, at first blush, you're like, Oh, that's a little odd. Why are the commanders doing that? Then you have Jaden Daniels agent liking some tweets, pointing out or criticizing the commanders for their strategy in terms of having visits, which connects directly to the player. Then you have Adam Schefter on the McAfee show, which we would play, but we're not allowed to play clips on the McAfee show without paying $5 million. I'll just tell you that Adam Schefter says that maybe Daniels, if he had his choice, wouldn't want to play in Washington, which then he tries to walk back that subsequently. However, Greggy, once you make that statement and you're Adam Schefter, that is going to take on a life of its own.

So now there's this idea like this Eli Manning, '04 charges vibe. Could that possibly happen? We'll see.

Probably not. I don't think so because Jaden Daniels and the agent have come out since this popped up and tried to quiet it down. Daniels was on OchoCinco's podcast with Shannon Sharp.

By the way, we still have that plan. We're lowering the amount of player podcast to 70.Okay.And does Chad get it?Well.

They're former players.We're.

Going to...Well.

You clumped them onto the same.

What, 70 active player podcast, Greg? That's what.

Just players. I mean, okay.

Do you want to make it former players and bump it up to 85? Sure.okay, deal. Yeah, Shannon Sharp.

But you're actively listening to this podcast that we're about to cancel, so I don't know.

No, not that one. This was from an aggregator. I believe it from Pro Football Talk that noted Jaden Daniels was quoted on the record in a pod that just came out, I think it's Sunday or Monday, saying, I want to go wherever I'm drafted. That's where I want to go. And so I think publicly, it's fine. The situation was weird. I've heard speculation. It might just be something where it's all... Whether you want all the executives, if it's ownership, they're all there on one day and you can only get ownership to show up that one day, whatever. It's a strange story. It gives you vibes from the old commanders, but ultimately, it sounds like they're going to take their guy. Adam Peters, their GM, said he all but shut down that they would trade out of the pick. He's like, We feel very strong that we're going to take the pick.

Here was the quote from Schefter, Mark, on McAfee. I think Daniels thought he was going to get more FaceTime there than he actually did. It didn't work out exactly that way, but Jaden Daniels knows that he can't control where he goes in the draft, and his opinion doesn't matter where he wants to go. It's all up to the team.

I think this blows over. There were, by the way, 22 players at this meeting with the commanders, and they took them to play top golf. I heard where this became absurd to me was like, if you're Jaden Daniels and you're not a golfer, maybe you feel like you're not being put in the best light. But have you ever been to top golf? Kids do top golf. I think Jaden Daniels, a soon-to-be pro football player, would thrive at golf, and you're just sitting there eating chicken wings and drinking beer.

Here's the thing about golf. If you don't have any golfing experience, I don't care how good an athlete you are, you're going to struggle.

I know, but I suck at golf, and I went to Topgolf, and it was like, I don't need to... I think you're right. The activity matters. But there were a bunch of people there. There have been other... Bill Belichick told the McAfee show that it's not unusual to bring a bunch of people in. But I do think it's different for a quarterback, and I think it's fair to feel like if you want to be courted and you want to get to know an organization that's been a wayward organization for a long time, when you're looking at other teams, Jaden Daniels is very tight with Antonio pierce, and he's talked about the Raiders in a certain way that make you wonder if he had his choice, he has to come say what he's saying. I'll be happy to go anywhere. But I don't think in general, that this happens unless the commanders are a little bit suspect to him compared to other landing spots that could emerge. But he's going to get taken by them, I think. And then you just got to put a smile on your face.

The fact is that Schefter, specifically, had talked before any of this happened, that if it was maybe up to Daniels, there's some other places that he was maybe the next team.

How did you do in Topgolf?

I did fine.

You seem to insinuate that even though you're not a golfer, you were hitting the targets.I.

Am.i would sayI'm accumulating points. I thought it was fun because 60% of my shots were an absolute disaster. But then just out of luck, you peg one way down the... You feel great, you feel good.

A few things If things make a dad feel better, then you go to the top golf and you put one-off the back net just with residual dad strength. It's like, deal with that, little monsters. I'm going to dream to be as good as me.

I like playing sports against small children in general.

Yes, we share that. All right. In other news, what was the ding for? Because you are expecting you and your wife. You're looking forward to hammering your son. No, that was in sports.

That was a great conversation about Topgolf. I agreed with everything you said. I suck at golf, and you just go and hit the hell out of a golf ball.

It's good nature.

There's always a little kid, and you just get a hold of one.

I don't have a child personally yet, but everything you guys said-Not that you know of. No. No. No. That was a hesitation there.

The top golf conversation. Let's to count Larry.

It was a perfect conversation. I agree with everything. Great.

A perfect conversation.

Tp. The other thing about top golf, look out, by the way, because you take your couple of sons there, maybe your wife comes and they go, Oh, here, get a couple of apps, get a couple of beers. Oh, play for an hour. We walk out of there, it's like, Where's my two rocks? They're gone.Well.

I would show you a criticism.Bank in a big spot. That drained the wallet when I went.

The commanders are trying to show, We're not cheap. We'll take you to Topgolf. Here we go. We'll sponsor us. Probably not now. The Patriots, Greggy, they He would need, according to a report, was it Burp Rear?

It was Mike Reece.

Mike Reece. A blockbuster offer to not take a quarterback at number three. And that makes all the sense in the world. The few teams in the league, when you just say, Who needs a quarterback more than anybody? New England Patriots, when you're sitting there and there's a couple of good options, they would have to get blown away. And that makes sense.

It does. And yet there was a somewhat conflicting report from Diana Racina of the Athletic just Monday morning saying that they're listening and that Elliott Wolf is running point, that Jonathan Kraft is potentially involved. And they have said essentially publicly, Elliot Wolf said it publicly just last week, that, Hey, we'll listen. We'll listen to anything.So you could see this as positioningPart of the dance. Yeah, you could see this as positioning part of the dance. And yet I do believe that it would take something crazy for them to move off three. Why would you or not. But they might also really prefer one quarterback to another, which would be a totally reasonable feeling. And if that quarterback is not there, then suddenly they're more open for business.

I do wonder if Elliott Wolf and the whole crew there would ever consider trading up to number two. If they really think Washington is going to take their guy and Washington's in this weird situation, potentially, just with what's happened this week, maybe none of it matters, but maybe they could flip flop, and Washington still gets one of the top three guys, but maybe not the guy they think doesn't want to play for them, and New England winds up with Jade and Daniels. You never know. Look where we were a year ago with the draft, we annoyed it was going to happen and weird stuff.

It could only be good for the Patriots or any team that's maybe hoping to get Daniels. If there any chance there's something wonky there that would cause Washington to make a decision, that could... Yeah, let's say. In other news, you dream of drafting a quarterback like Matt Ryan. And I I think everyone knows that I have a bit of a history with Matt Ryan. I had a habit of throwing for exactly 26 shutdowns when I drafted on my fantasy teams, but that's not what he should be remembered for. He should be remembered as one of the great quarterbacks of his era, and he was, and he's a former MVP, and he ended his career not in such hot terms with the Colts. It was a forgettable end, but a lot of great Hall of Fame-level quarterbacks ended careers with other teams in a poor manner. So we don't remember for the fantasy seasons that didn't measure up. We don't want to only remember for the Super Bowl in '283 or the Colts. Let's remember Matt Ryan on this day that he retires from the NFL as a damn fine quarterback.

I want you to know that every day I felt the responsibility to give you the best version of myself. While we didn't accomplish everything we had hoped, I am proud of what we did. And I know that I gave I could to be the best that I possibly could. Classic touch down from Matt Ryan.

How bad is number two on it?

You have no control in this profession of where you start. I am so lucky that my start and now my finish is here in Atlanta.

I think that's probably the future of how these careers end with a highly-produced video shared with Social. It's already happening, but watching it with Ryan made me think of that. Greg. Things are different now than the old statement or calling the press conference. Although it's probably going to be a press conference. Ryan, Greg, came in as a highly touted first-round pick for a team that was looking desperately for a quarterback after the Michael Vick fiasco for the Falcons. He goes number three overall in 2008, and immediately was a QB1 for them.

At the time, famously, I'd never had back-to-back winning seasons in franchise history. When Matt Ryan arrived, his first five years, 11 wins, another winning season. After that, he went nine and five when he was the starter, 13 and three, 10 and six, 13 and three. You said, We don't want to remember him just for the Super Bowl. I guess I would just say he played very well in that Super Bowl. He went against the Bill Belichick defense, which he gave so much credit for shutting down Sean McVay, and I know they were better in 2018 than they were in 2016 in terms of the defense. He lit them up. His defense let him down, and you could say the play calling let him down. He had a couple of bad plays, certainly in the second half, but it was mostly his running back letting him down in terms of pass protection. He averaged 12 or 13 yards per attempt in the Super Bowl and was dominating the Patriots. Whereas if you're playing for any other team that doesn't fall apart in the way that their defense did, he's a Super Bowl champion, and he was great in that entire run.

He was great in the NFC Championship. He was obviously the MVP that season. He was very rarely a top five quarterback. I actually don't think he's a Hall of Famer. He's going to be an interesting case. Someday, I went back and looked at the QB Index rankings that we had for him. We only started in 2013, but he only finished top five once that MVP season. Then he was around 8 or 9 or 10 a couple other times. He was more in the 10 to 12 range and putting up good numbers and a really solid quarterback year after year. But he should be a champion. I hate that he's looked at, and I'm sure he feels so differently because that's how sports is.

You even hear it in what he said. We didn't accomplish everything we wanted. A direct allusion, obviously, to something that he'll never shake.

It reminds me a little bit different player, different statistical outputs, but the way you feel about Dan Moreno's career where it's like there was this one thing that never happened to Dan Moreno, and it leaves him at times out of certain conversations. It's just like Matt Ryan and me, though, if you're one of these teams this week picking a quarterback, you'd be so lucky to have this. He missed three games in 14 seasons with the Falcons. The durability, he's one of these guys that just the rock. He's there every week, the durability. I always found I couldn't get a grasp of Matt Ryan's personality for a decade plus. When they were on Hard Knocks the one time, I thought he was one of the winners on that show where you started to see him differently. He was a true leader inside the building. The cold season was a free... That's when I did QB Index, and that was a tough watch to track weekly because that was Matt Ryan falling off a cliff. I know he wanted to come back last year, but go do your announcing thing. You had a very excellent career with the Falcons.

As his career went on and you started to learn more about him and read reports about him, that he was one of the more intense competitors ever. He was not above really giving it to his teammates on the field. A lot of hot mics will pick up. He was the guy that would get on you and chew you out if you didn't do the job the right way. But Payton Manning did the same thing as well. Remember, God damn it, Donald. That's part of being... He was a true, tried and true QB1 franchise His type starter. I think, because I'm with you, I think that he falls just a little bit short.

What if he had won the Super Bowl?

Well, here's the thing. I was going to say two things. You finish off that game, and he did take an awful sack that contributed to that meltdown. But it was blown, blown, blocked.

But he also had what would have been one of the best throwing catches, and Julio Jones' catch is maybe even better.

That was the same possession, though. Right.

Same possession. All I mean, though, is in any other scenario where you just hand the ball, your coach, you have a decent running game, you run it three times, you kick the field goal and you win, that has nothing to do with Matt Ryan, or you have a defense that makes a single stop. Then you're remembering that throw. So it's just tough house. That football works, especially.

If they finish that game off and he won the MVP that year as well. So you had the MVP, you would have a Super Bowl, and he finished with 381 touch downs. And I know people don't care about nice round numbers anymore. We go a little deeper. But if he would have had a decent final run with the cults, he gets over 400 touch downs. Those things that he just missed will keep him out of the hall, probably. But Matty Ice, also a great nickname, had an awesome career.

I will say he also had one of my favorite NFL throws of my entire fandom. This happened a couple of years ago where he's trying to hit someone along the sideline, over through the receiver and absolutely devastated a cameraman. I mean, the cameraman was lost at sea for the rest of the week.

You love that stuff.

It was unintentionally hilarious and caused problems.

You love the juxtaposition of big, strong football players with normal people and what happens when they're either standing next to each other and something is innocuous as a photo being taken or getting run over or being run past. You just love that.

You love that. Well, you know when we're at those London games, there's a-Oh, you love that. No, but in the back of your mind, you're thinking, This is where I could get hit with a football. You love that. 70 miles.

Come on, ETP.

He loves it.

I love him.

Thank you.

Top 10 in yards and touch downs, but that's hard to evaluate.

All right. Finally, in the news, another quarterback news. The NFL lost one of its MVPs, another MVP, Roman Gabriel, former number 2 overall pick of the Los Angeles Rams in 1962, and also the first Filipino-American quarterback in the NFL died on Saturday. 83 years old, he did win League MVP in 1969. Natural causes, died peacefully at home.

He had an interesting career because he was drafted by the Raiders in the AFL and the Rams, and chose between the two teams to go to the Rams. I watched some stuff on him this weekend, and he was 6'5, 220 pounds. And now that's just what you want in a quarterback. But in 62, he was a bit of an outlier, and he had the strongest arm in the league for years in a row. And after the Rams gave up on him, he went to the Eagles and one comeback player of the Year. They They were done with him. He didn't even really get started till a sixth season. But the one thing I like about him because it reminds me of Jim Brown a little bit, is he used LA to the max. He was on Wonder Woman. He was on Gilligan's Island. He was on Perry Mason. He did a film with John Wayne and Rock Hudson. He did a film with Jackie Gleason. He basically was like, I'm going to become one of the first strong-arm gunslinging quarterbacks who's also a movie star.

This is where I wish Wes was here. He would have some good Roman Gabriel takes. But you filled That's the response I'm looking at. No, I'm just saying he would have some strange story that he read in a book. But yeah, he overindexed. Also, one of the great Asian-American American sports stars of all time.

He was Filipino-Irish, by the way. Good combo. You don't find that too often.

Not often, but it's possible.

Well, yeah, sure. If an Irish person and a Filipino person were to reproduce, that would create that.

What happens when they do MVP?

Bingo. It is interesting. Yeah, he was not a Hall of Famer. Compared him to Matt Ryan. One, an MVP, three all-Pro teams, four Pro Balls, the exact same as Ryan, and he did not make the Hall of Fame. His resume looks a little stronger at the top end than Matt Ryan's, and he did not make it.

Eleven years for the Rams, five years of the Eagles. Roman Gabriel, rest in peace. Let's take a break, and when we return, sandwich props.

And we are back. We're back. The show is continuing. I thought you were making do it again.

That's perfect.

That works for me.

No, we're keeping that. Welcome back to a RAP.

I never know. Wait, hold on. So Colleen had to do that the other week.

Can we clip that up? I want that one, too. She received clear instructions on how to perform the task.

You tell me during the break, let's come back with Mark coming out of the Bayside, and I'm trying to do a great job. And then it's like... You're talking about right now? Yeah, I'm hoodwinked again.

Dan is weirdly an offensive coordinator that actually sets up his players to fail and then laughs.

No, you couldn't be more pleased with the outcome.

I do not feel the same.

There's something about this bit that continues to flummox you. Because when I asked you to do the original one, I was trying to get you just to do what Greg had done, which was a different version.

When I wasn't here, though. I did.

I didn't.

Yeah. I was going in sight unseen. Right.

So we got something different. And now we have this, but you've been here for multiple shows where we're in a break and I'll say, Okay, let's come back with Connie Bayeside. So I just did that, but you thought I was cueing you, but I was clearly cueing the person.

This is an example of you operating in your own space and thinking that it makes sense to person B, and person B is trying to do something fresh from their own mind, and it's colliding.

It is. And I'm sorry to the listeners. I think they're the ones that lose, ultimately. All right, before we get into sandwich props, let's give some props to Trent Balke, who is the general manager of the Jaguars, who found himself in the news cycle briefly in the past week for, I would say unusual reasons. Let's play it.

We're not there yet. We still got a couple of days going through.

Coach and I haven't sat down and gone, Excuse me, gone through the final board yet.

We'll do that on Monday.

That's so good. It's amazing. It's never happened before. It was so good. He didn't stop what he was saying. He said, Excuse me. That's the key. He said, You could have gone, Excuse me. It could have gone, Pardon me. Owned it. Very polite, and then continued his statement, It's draft season. That's the most important thing I'm so excited about. I can't control myself in the moment, but I will apologize for it.

If anything, I give him credit for just simply rolling through it. It's like, Oh, are you a human being? Do these things happen to the physical body? Yes, they do. Let's keep talking about the draft. Yeah.

Have you beefed? I mean, if you have not beefed, do not raise your hand.

I do love this headline, by the way. Can we put this on? Tmz decided you could create multiple headlines for this.

Mock if you have not beefed.

This is so TMZ. It's like, Jaguar's GM, Trent Balki. Then it's a banger, all caps, Farts during news conference with three question marks. Triple question mark in a big spot. Then, dot, dot, dot, fans convinced. Three slammers, fans convinced. I think we all saw what happened.

He literally apologized for it in the moment. Yeah, there was no mystery to what went on there. But I think it's good. I think we should normalize this.It happens.We should start doing it.We're all human.It should happen more often.

Yeah, I think we should be very cool about it. Congratulations to Trent Balke for relieving himself in a big spot.

He sounds a It's not like Marty Funkheyshauser.

He does.Oh, you're right.I was thinking of that. He who is without sin can cast the first stone. John, 8, 7, mark.

I think that's why if you want to point to a reason why that phrase was said thousands of years ago, you'd look at this moment.

He who has not beefed can cast the first stone.There you go.No stones.

That's all. Unless you were born eight seconds ago, that applies to every human.

All right, now, pivot point. It's time. It's time. It's a tradition. I love it. We love it. I think you love it, the listeners. We are going to play a little game we call Go Get My Sandwich, Ya Beefer. How about that sound? The biting sound, chewing.

I don't like the word beefed, by the way.

No, I don't either.

It makes you uncomfortable.

No, it's just like I think Greg understands what's wrong with it.

What's the problem?

It's a little too rich.

Yeah, I just have an immediate reaction to it. Plus, I love beef, and so I just don't like mixing that up.

Got it.

Went to K-Town last night. Had some just delicious beef.Beef.Beef, yes.

Okay, I'm just saying. It's all connected in a way. It is. We go around. We each make a prediction about what's going to happen in the draft. A reminder, I don't think we have to remind each other. I think we all know at this point, but just it's good to get it out there. We want to have all these buttoned up by the end of the draft, the end of the seventh round on Saturday, so we can then at the end of the Saturday show be able to say Our sandwich is owed, our sandwich is not owed. What are you talking about, Dan? Sandwiches. We each make a prediction, and then the other two people get to say, I agree or I disagree. If they disagree, it's a sandwich prop. Bet, wager, and then whoever is right, collect sandwiches. We have all time standings that you can check out at gogetmylunch. Org. That has every single prop we have ever made. There's some Wapper's draft season. As always, you must hang onions on at least one of your wagers.

I hope maybe you try these onions.

You'll like them.

They're real sweet onions.

What does that mean, to hang onion, Mark Cessler?

That means to don't give us a milk toast, run-of-the-mill prediction about something vague or boring happening that we pretty much know will happen. Go out there, create some spice, something disarming, something completely unpredictable. Put yourself on the line, put your creative mind on the line, and see what happens. Let it fly.

And shout out, as always, to nick Fortier, who has been running the gogetmylunch. Org site. For a long time, we did not do very well in the predictions last year. Greg, Mark, you hit one that packers drafted at least four wide receiver/ tight-end. I hit that the Texans stay at number 2 and draft a QB, which you guys both took me on. I guess there must have been a lot of speculation.I.

Just mentioned that.That's right.That was plus 500.Move.

On out. That's right. Anyway, and then we got everything else literally wrong. It's hard. Let's get started. Greg, why don't you get us going?

Okay. Dan, if you listen to our Thursday show. Loved it.

Great up.

With Move the Sticks.

Didn't think that was probably the right move, but he's on the show, and what can you do? He can't scrub it.

We wanted to keep you guys separate, and I know it hurts you to listen to him, but if you did, you might have heard me just mention because I've been trying to look around with my contacts inside the league. Let's be real. Employees of this company.

Let's be even more real, Ian.

Yeah, a lot of guys. There's a lot of guys, girls all over the place. It's like, why is this guy, Johnny Newton, who I'm fascinating with?I love the inclusive from Illinois.I love the inclusive move there. That was good. But it's true. I had a very specific... I have been asking around, looking for people to tell me that Johnny Newton is going to go higher than expected. And I can't really find it. So this is from... Okay. This is from no... From nobody. Other inside information other than what I seeOh, here we go.with my eyes. Here we go. When I turn on the tape and I see a top-notch player, a guy who can be a big-time difference maker, and I think all these teams are staying quiet because they must see what I see when it comes to Johnny Newton. So then I went this morning and I checked out-Can you clarify for people that aren't totally aware? Johnny Newton, defensive tackle, Illinois. One of the top defensive tackles in the league.

Big 10 defensive player of the year in '23.

Mina sent me this link. Maybe I'll send it out for him in high school just doing the where it's ridiculous how much he's just destroying these kids in high school.Mark likes that.It does.

That's just exactly what I'm looking at.

I went and took... I checked a respected site out there, see where his over-under is as we tape this on Monday heading into the draft. His over-under for the draft is 31.5. I can't believe it. First of all, do not let this man get to the-What a start here. I love it.a chiefs and put him next to Chris Jones. I see that 31.5. That means they think maybe the Chiefs are a team. Do not let this man fall. And so for the first time ever, I think at the draft, they're actually going to open up the stadium, and they're going to combine a sandwich with a big-time rainstorm. The Rainmaker is coming out for the draft. He is getting taken before 31.5. I say it's way before, but it's way before. All you need to get is 31.5. Johnny Newton.

Did you not let the glass know that a Rainmaker was coming?

I I did let them know. How else would they be able to play this? Yeah, but where's our graphic? I don't like that graphic. No, I'm kidding. I didn't ask for the graphic or not, but it's fine.

We exist for that Rainmaker graphic. That's what we're here for.

I love this. I love this, first of all.Let's.

Combine two old bits.Okay.

I like it. I like old bits coming together as a new.

When you spoke to guys and girls, were they also flummoxed by the...

No, they were just like, what? They didn't get much of a pop. There it is. If you're watching on YouTube, the graphic is here.

I like when he shoots the money out of his mouth and it spins around. Erica's most lasting contribution to the program.

I do like that.

He was Greg during the suit and tie era.

I think I was Coming straight from an NFL Network show. I looked like I was showing up in West Hartford for a day at the Mutual.

All right, so I got a little sidetracked when you combined them. Yeah, me too. So he is what?

He has to be drafted ahead I have 31 and a half, but I just thought I would combine two things to give our listeners an early opportunity.Ahead of 31.Making some ring.

So 31 and below?

31 and below.

Okay. You caught me off guard. I got to do my...

It's too late to do research now.

Research. Where is he? Newton, where is he being mocked? Where is he?

Well, there's a consensus big board out there.

Where is he on the consensus big board?

Which I believe has him.I call him Jack Newton. That's what they base these things on. But he's higher on the consensus big board. I guess the draft mix like him a little better.

All right. Where is he? Where is he going?

In the mid 20s.

You're saying he's going... Okay.

I'm looking at an article from 25 is what I found. That side, it says, Could Johnny Newton fall out of the first round?Right.They're putting it there.They have no answer.

All I'm saying is that's where the...

He's got any medical red flags? Got any off-the-field issues? No.

Well, he missed the scouting combine with a fracture in his foot.

His name is Jerzhan Newton. I like that. That's good. He should owe that over Johnny. It's always good business to take the sandwich guy. I'm not going to do it in this case.

Yeah, Greg, I think I should point out, yes, he did have foot surgery in the pre-draft process.

That would have been in January, but he played through it.

One fatal flaw in your pitch was that you're so self-confident about this happening that you make me not want to take you on the-That's fair.

I guess I'm thinking more about the listeners and the Rainmaker, and it's a big spot. You never know when it could be the last Rainmaker. But I'll take you just because- Fair.

Why not?

I'll take you. Okay, thank you.

For the show aspect, Dan.

You're a showman. Showman. Shuman. Shuman. Yeah, I will not take you up on it. I don't know why. I just won't.

I'm not going to do it. You know what I also thought when I saw that number? That's perfect. I am looking for things to have me to add even more excitement to this first round of the draft. Not that we need to. It's the draft. But when it was 31, I was like, Okay, this is going to be fun. As we get towards the end of the draft, I'll be-You've got something to track. Although I think it could be much higher.

That's nice for you. So Schrager sends out a tweet today that Johnny Newton is not even on his list of... He's pointing out in the tweet that there has never been a more lopsided offense to defense NFL draft first round. From Convos, I only have six Surefire first round picks on D right now. Murphy Turner, Latu, Arnold, Mitchell, Verce. Then he has a later first, very early second guy, Dajon, Chopp Robinson, Darius Robinson, Wiggins, and McKinstry.

Based on that-He didn't even list them.

He's not even listed, so I will take you up on it now. I think that's smart. I needed to do a little research just in time. There's something going on there because Schrager is pretty plugged in.

But foot surgery is not ideal.

It is good that we actually did a... He didn't want us to do research. He didn't think we would. There's no medical issues, but he's just had foot surgery, which sounds like an issue.

He missed it. Oh, it's a Jones fracture in the foot.I don't like that either.That's unpleasant. That's tricky, Greggy. I don't like that. That's a cousin of Liz Frank, that Harland, Scorpian woman.

Because that's tough to sell your fan base on. Sometimes, Oh, this I just had surgery, so of course, we take him in the first round. I believe in the play.

He's got a Jones fracture. Oh, yeah, bring him in first round, please. Who does that?

And Malkie.

Also big men with feet injuries, a foot injury. Let's go. All right, I'm up next. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. This one is not... I'm not going to say it's ballsy because it's conventional wisdom in a lot of these mock draughts. However, how often do we see that what everyone thinks is going to happen isn't going to happen? With that in mind, this will be the draft where the top of the board goes exactly as everyone's talking or close to it. What's going to make this one a tougher one for me to hit is it's so big. It's a big swath of the first round. I'm saying the first round will go. Hubby, Hubby, Hubby. Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, offensive tackle. First seven picks.

I will take you because I think you just say number four, that would be the Cardinals in theory, staying home and taking Marvin Harrison Jr. I think they're trading that pick. I do. I think that's where the fourth quarterback goes, so I'll take you.

I would take you just not even knowing what year I'm in, what's happening. You're trying to match seven slots with specific positions. Right. Which doesn't it...Dusn it...

The players, whatever the players are.

What?

Yeah. We know the QB one, and then those two quarterbacks are probably next to each other. The three wide receivers, we don't know what order they're going to go in, but it's probably going to be Harrison first. But they'll all be bunched together, and then Joe Alt goes to the Titans. That's the way I see it.

I mean, this to me is a massive onion hangar, a bigger one. I hope maybe you try these onions, you like them, the real sweet onions. Then you realize. I mean, you go to the horse track. They got the trifecta. They got the superfecta.

I'm trying to hit It's a flush here.

Yeah, this is the super, super, duper effect. I'll take you on that. All right.

I like it, though. That's right out of the gate. That's a creative one.

I reached out to NFL research this morning. Love the work they do. Always have. I said, has the draft ever gone all QB and wide receiver in the first six picks. And Ben McWilliams replied, That has never happened in the common draft era, Dan. However, he's got a however. Ben in a big spot. However, each of the first six picks in 2021 were catchers, three QBs, two wide receivers, and Kyle Pitz, which is the closest we have come to that scenario. So this would be the first time if it does indeed happen. Okay, Mark, you're up.

I'm going to get hyper specific because this is-I'll take it. This is my sports lock of the week. This is a two-parter. The Eagles will take Clemson linebacker, Jeremiah Trotter, after his father played with the the Eagles three different times.

You love that, too. Another Mark trope.

These things need to happen. I was saying this with Joey Porter Jr. All last draft season, and it happened, and it worked, and it's a good move. So the Eagles will take Jeremiah Trotter Jr. And the Chargers will take Michigan Running Back, Blake Coram, which I've been on that case for eons.

I got to just pick one of these.

No, because they're both going to happen.

I would wish we could put Conditions. I don't think we It gets too complicated. But I want to do a sandwich on each of these, split them up, and so I get two sandwiches because you're not going to get either one.

I completely think you're wrong.

Or the odds are you won't. I don't really know. The future is untold.

It's very difficult for you to do this, but it's so hard to hit two.

But there is connective tissue with both landing spots for both players. Howie Roseman literally went out of his way to say that Jeremiah Trotter was on their radar.

People say a lot of things.

Our job is to bar. It feels like an eagles thing. It just feels like an eagles thing to do.They.

Value that.That's a good point.

Would you love it for the eagles, Greg, if they did it?

I think if Howie Roseman said in a public setting that he's on his radar.I'm not saying that. You just lock it in.

I'm not saying that that means much, but why say it at all?

Because you like his dad and you're just trying to boost up his kid's stock.

I think you know that there's NFL bloodlines matter. If you're Harbaugh, you're not going to take your running Who was who dazzled for your-You had your little dance with Porter last year, I believe.

Was that who was?

Yes. Joey-it was a nice moment for you. It crescendoed in complete victory.

We were all very proud that you did it. Now you're going back to the well, and it's suicide. It's suicide.

You can dance and celebrate if you get it right. Let's talk on probably...

It's like sometimes you got to know when to leave well enough alone. You had a big You had that corner. Coming back to it.

You know what it's going to do? It's going to cheapen the porter pick.

No, it has no effect on that because that was just a clear-cut checkmark victory. It's been developing news.

We're getting work. Yes, it will cheapen the porter pick.

Unless you nail it, and then it'll make it even better.

If I nail it, then it's like you just hang on the grates at that point and just like...

But you got to get both. Greg and I aren't going to sit here and hand you bouquets of roses if you get one.

I wouldn't accept a bouquet of roses.

I will give you verbal credit if you get one of the two, but I'm taking the sandwich.

Well, verbal credit means a lot. For one out of two?

Yeah.

50% is not good enough here.Verbal credit would be always welcome.

All right.

Greg, another round. While we're throwing exact darts out, I want to make sandwich pops that I want to root for, like Pixie want to root for. And so let's just keep simple. The Patriots do take, break me, and deliver me back into the womb of Foxborough Stadium with a nice exciting-What, you're going back into the womb?

That's not how it works.

We're starting the journey again. We had an incredible journey. It'll be tricky. That will never be topped, and then it ended.

You're coming home.

And this is this is rebirth. This is a new me.

You texted me over the weekend.

That's not true.

Greg. Wait, you literally did.

Well, I did about the Dodgers, but what else?It's about the Dodgers.Okay, sorry.

You texted me and you said you were at the game with your family, and you said, I think that you like me better when I'm a baseball fan or walking to baseball. To which I wouldn't say I like you better, but I do like... That's the most wholesome thing about Greg when he's just like, Hey, this is the I love. I think it's the most wholesome version.

It's why I thought of you. I'm sitting in a long line waiting for the Dodger Dogs just with some time to kill. I'm like, Dan would be happy to know I'm here at the Dodgers game. I'm going to text him.

I don't like you better when you're at a baseball game, but I do like you better when you're not lying about your Patriots fandom.How dare you.So if this brings you back... This is stupid. If this brings you back in a real way, let's do it. I'm with you and I'm rooting for you, even if it could be danger for the rest of the AFC East.

So you're not taking them on the...

Would that mean I'm not taking him? It's always a little bit weird. I don't know.

How does this game work?

You do take me if-I want to root along with you on this.

Let's bring Drake.

You're not taking me.

I didn't take you on the last one either, though, so it's a little tricky.

No, you did in the end.

I did. I think for the sake of showing-Yeah, I will take you about it. I will take you, but I have noticed, Greg, that your fascination with Drake May, and I'm starting to watch him more and more. I'm like, I see where you're coming from. This is a spicy player, but this is huge for you. I feel like your Patriots' fandom hinges on this player going to New England. You've been talking in a certain way about the pairing here for a couple of weeks. I haven't really heard you talk about the Patriots with passion in this way in a while or the possibilities.

He's nervous about JJ McCarthy.

Well, right. Because Dan's saying, I've been lying about my Patriots. All right, lying strong. You're lying. If there's been any exaggerating going along, it's had to actually have to pretend for Dan's sake that I'm overly invested. For Dan's sake.Yeah..

I mean, I understand the dynamic. I will take you.

Okay. Please. Don't get me started on the browns with you, Sestog.

But Dan, I wouldn't be walking around town or nor would Greg talking about our fandom if we weren't in this setting. Okay.

Next. The Chiefs, they stop messing around, then they trade up and get one of these wide receivers. Now, I don't want I can't say one of the big three because I think they're going to be so hotly contested that, like I've already predicted, I think they're off the board by seven. But who are the secondary guys? Like Brian Thomas.

He would be an exciting-That next tier. Mvs replacement. My God.

They could trade up potentially to get that mid-round.

It could be AD Mitchell, it could be Xavier worthy. Anyone that they like, that's what it's fun about. It could be McConkey, it could Or they could stick and pick. But for you to get this, you're saying they have to trade up.

They have to make a trade to move up the board and then take a wide receiver.

Well, I'm definitely taking you on that because even specifically saying wide receiver, that feels 50/50 to me.

Oh, because they could go get Brock, for instance, as well.

No, I just mean they could take any position. You never know what the value is going to be at that point. To make it trading up for... You could throw Bauer.

Can I modify? Yeah, I think it's important for this. What I'm saying is they're going to be aggressive to add that playmaker pass catcher. So it could be Bauer's or another tight end, but probably Bauer.

I come up with about 13, 14 sandwich props here, but Booket Charlie, Kansas City will trade up for a wide receiver. I believe in what you're saying, but again, just for the sake of the parlor game, I'll take you.

That's always good. I'll take you on that. Okay.

Mark.

This one's simple. The Dallas Cowboys will take a quarterback in the first two rounds.

My Onion Hanger was Cowboys-related now. Suddenly, our little cowboy is heavy.

He buy into us.

That is fun. I will take you on it. Again, these are generally less than 50/50 propositions here. That would be doing something that I just haven't seen them do, which is think past this year. They just don't do that. Maybe they should. Maybe they'll think about it after seeing Jordan Love rock the NFC. But I still don't.

Two things, right? That, what you're saying, and also we've never outwardly seen them doubt the idea of Dak Prescott as being that dude. They've always believed in that. Has that changed behind the scenes? In in part because of his contract situation and the difficulties around that. I think it's way more likely when what is the now much derided quote that Jerry Jones had that they were going to be all in on the offseason. Essentially. I think what he is going to be able to spin that at, because obviously, because of their financial hurdles that they've been dealing with, they weren't able to make big splashes in this offseason. But what he's going to spin that as, I think, is using the top of his draft class to bring in an offensive lineman, to find somebody to replace the left tackle, to add a playmaker. I think that's what their path is going to be. So it'll be about helping and aiding Dak rather than adding this drama. But also, I can totally imagine waking up Friday morning or Saturday morning, and that's what everyone's talking about because the Cowboys have entered this into the dialog.

Right.

I think it really depends how the board falls. And if someone like Penix Jr. Came into their mix, I just wonder if that's where Jerry Jones gets tempted. Because I switched out. I went with the Cowboys, but the other one I had was that the Seahawks will take a quarterback in round one, and I think they're going to.

I really don't.

But I thought the Cowboys was-I'll take you on the Cowboys one.

Sure.

I'll take you on it. I'm going to stick with Cowboys because it was specific and it does relate to yours.

This is your onion hangar.

Hold that thought. Let's take a break. We'll come back with the Cowboys again. All right, we're back. Then back to the Cowboys with Greg Rosenthal.

Sandwich props. Okay, so where I would push back from you, and I would like to see this Cowboys team change the way they do things. They have picked up guys who've fallen in the draft. You're like, Oh, how did CD Lam get to him? How did Zack Martin back in the day or even Travis Fedr, some of these guys that go later than you expect. But to me, last year, they showed who they are. It's like, Oh, we really need a defensive tackle to play right away. Let's draft Mazzie Smith. That looks like a little bit of a reach. Oh, our tight end leaves for the Texans. We need to take a tight end. Scoonmaker in the second round. It didn't really hit the field. They They have so many obvious needs right now, and they've gone into the draft having picked up Royce Freeman as their free agent running back, that it just seems so clear. They're like, We are going to take our starting running back in the draft, and they are going to be as predictable as possible, and they know that 56 is the perfect spot for it. So I say they use that 56 spot.

They're taking their starting running back with that spot. That doesn't feel onion hangery enough for me, but I feel very confident in that. And I say they get as basic as possible, and they just look in the same state and they see Jonathan Brooks, and they're like, Oh, this is a guy who's a little devalued because he's coming off a torn ACL, but he would have been the number one guy. And this can be our Zeke for the next five years. Jonathan Brooks is the fantasy Running back winner of the night because he gets taken by the Cowboys there.

I like that one. Aneed Pollard flopped last year in his chance to be the big guy. Zeke deep in the rear view. Maybe he's coming back, maybe not. I'll take you on it, though. Very specific.

Always take the specific one. Good thinking. That is very Dallas-ish, but I'll take you.

They're going to make... I think the only thing I feel confident about, and I think makes all three of us potentially right here, is that they're going to want to make a splash move because you know what Jerry Jones hates? Everyone's saying that he's not doing anything. He wants to do something fun. I don't think they're going to take a guard in the first round. All right. Onion hangar time.

I hope maybe you try these onions.

You'll like them. They're real sweet onions.

I don't even know who this is, honestly. I could throw out a couple. The farmer? No, I don't know him either, but I hope he's still with us. Sounded old when we started playing the drum. You start doing the math, you start to get nervous.50-50.Yeah. Maybe this is a certain wide receiver out of San Francisco, although I don't I can't actually buy into that, but it could be, hypothetically, anyone. I want to be careful with the wording here. I was going to say an all-Pro player. No. But I'm going to go Pro-Bull player. A Pro-Bull player will be moved in a trade between now and midnight, Friday morning.

Any position?

Any position.

Oh, interesting. It's like, Ayuk, for instance. Has he made a Pro Bowl?

If he hasn't, then I need to recalibrate this. Well, how about-For a guy that's supposed to be a superstar, I hope he's made at least one Pro Bowl.

You could say Pro Bowl player and/or Brandon Ayuk.

He has not made the Pro Bowl. He actually was second-team All-Pro, which is a harder honor to reach.

All right.

And a first-team All-PFF, which I didn't know, is now listed on Pro Football Reference. Good job by that.Fully to PFF. All right.

So someone that has either been named to an All-Pro team, first or second team, a Pro Bowl, or the Hallowed PFF, top 50. What is it? Top team?

They have an all-Pro.All-Pro.

Pff team. So it has to basically happen during the first round.

From starting now, as I say these words, till Friday morning at midnight.

Okay. I'll take you on that.

I had Brandon Ayuk I'm not going to be on the Niners by Saturday night, so I'm with you.

I thought you said that wasn't happening.

Well, I just put it up as a sandwich prop.

That's one of your 13. Yes. It wasn't going to be your next one.

No, because I also, Devante Adams won't be on the Raiders because I have I think he's part of a deal to move the Raiders, move up to get one of the top three. Devante Adams has to be out the door for that, but that's not where I'm going with mine. But I will take you on this. You will? Yeah.

I will, too. But you see what Mark is doing here. He's playing the game. I don't mean the game of the sandwich. I know what he's doing. Let's be honest. He last bought a sandwich, not just for us, but for anyone. He's never eaten a sandwich. Not his thing. 1994 was when he last bought a sandwich for his friends or his friends.

It was the last day of Camp Happiness.Not accurate.They got off the bus, and they were right next to him.

I I recall buying you like Bonnees or something at some point. I did do that.

Like, oh, look, it's a deli.

It was a while ago.

But go on. I know where you're going with this.

He's playing the game of life and the game of social media and the game of Mark gets one of these right. If he just throws them out verbally out of the podcast, eventually, he'll get credit for it from all the listeners, even though he's not playing by the rules. I'm a rule-follower.

He's got 50 things there. Every time someone throws it out, you say four more that are on your list, and it's like, All right, they're not official, but you've now said them. But it's well played, Mark.I.

Think it's savvy.We see. I put a lot of work and thought into this, and so I don't want it just to be when I close my Google Doc, and then it's gone forever into an abyss. Right.unfair to the listener and to also myself.Right..

That's not going to happen.

Just as an example, when I throw out my onion hangar here, and then you're just stomping it all over with all this, like Devante Adams is getting traded, and this guy's going. All of a sudden, it's like, oh, it's just we're talking about marks. Yeah.

Well, people were saying that was a hotter concept right there.

But let's try to steer it back to someone else's.

I'm taking you on yours, I said. Yeah.

And you're taking on mine. Oh, yeah. So a trade of a star player under any of those designations ahead of the draft. I always think that makes it more fun.

It is. It would be fun.

Aj Brown being a prominent example two years ago. Was there one last year?

No, but it seems more likely now that this can happen than any other time.

General GMs feel like their onions are bigger than they used to be.

I have just heard back from the Onion Committee. They do evaluations of what's an onion hangar. Make sure everything qualifies. That qualifies as an onion hangar, but they actually have come back to me and said, your first one that you said seven different guys at very specific positions was a bigger onion hangar. They believe you didn't calibrate which was the biggest crack. But either way, they're both hanging.

I think I've earned a level of esteem within that committee, though. They're like, Oh, this guy's playing a win and maybe lose more likely.

I thought you shook it up with your first prop. That's a credit to you.

All right, one more, Mark. You've already given us 12, but what is your final?

Well, so use this. I have one that exceeds beyond the draft a little I will ignore it if you don't want to hear that one as my onion hangar.

How far behind?

Well, I would call it collateral damage. Go ahead.

What is it?

A general manager will be fired within 72 hours of the draft wrapping, and it will be a surprise. Surprise, just because that would be a surprise for anyone.

Well, we've talked about George Payton. To me, that wouldn't be related to the draft.

What if I say not George Payton? Everyone, 31 other options. No.

Actually, the Onion Committee has noted this happens a decent amount here where they change-The committee is voting this down as an Onion.

Well, I'll give you a different one then. How about that?

Go ahead. What else you got?

How about this? Because I've gone down this road before, and it's like, I just know it's going to happen in our life at some point.

But let the record now state that Mark has now put it out there that if a GM is fired, he wins again. Well, I think so. If no one gets fired, it will never be brought up again. There's a nice little setup there for you.

How about this? A major non-sports-related news story will take wholesale precedence over the draft. Maybe not on day one or night one, but by the end of the selection process, it will barely be on anyone's mind, the draft itself.

Define anyone's. What about us? Are we doing a podcast?

Again, I'm not sure it's day one. I think by the time we're doing our Saturday recap, it will feel awkward.

Okay, I could accept that because we're doing a show Saturday.I like this one.This one hangs.

This one sounds potentially sad, but...

It's a big enough story that our day three Winners and Losers podcast feels beside the point is what you're trying to say.A little bit.I.

Think it's actually insensitive.No, because the show must go on, and we are going to give people what they want. At some point, they may not be listening to it. For some people, the minute it's released, but they'll be glad that we did it, and that's the way that we do business. But it will feel It feels slightly awkward.

Maybe this is because I've gone down a rabbit hole after O. J. Simpson died. But are you like a Ford Bronco chase type situation?

It's like that, where it's like Nicks Rockets receded into the deep background. By the end of that series, people were watching the end of that. They still cared about sports, but this became something much larger.

More likely because that was a one in a million thing. Maybe something geopolitical going on.

Sure.

Maybe Jessica falls back down the well.

Well, I don't know about that, but things of this-40 years old.

This is all vague, but I'll accept it.

What about the committee? The committee does?

They're fine with it. Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's an onion hangar. What are the chances?

I think it's definitely an onion hangar, and I will take you on it.

They're confused. The committee is confused. Just to circle back to tie a bow on it, there was a big veteran trade draft week last year. Aaron Rodgers was traded to the Jets.

Was it? I thought it was earlier.

April 25th. I don't know. Was that draft week? I don't even know.

It was maybe the week before. Might have been.

Welcome to Jet Life Stadium. I believe it was two days before the draft. Pretty crazy.

April 27th, 2023. How about that? So, yeah, if you count, that one's a little different. That's not exactly what I mean, but that was a different situation. But the A. J. Brown one is a perfect example. Is there some team out there that is going to make that big move to get a first-round pick or a second-round pick? We'll see. What would Brandon Ayut get in a trade, for example? We would assume, Oh, he's a first-round That's what we're doing, player.Well.

We don't operate that way. Now we know.

You don't got the wool over your eyes anymore. Football? Anything else?

I've got plenty more.

Do you want to get anything else?

I've got plenty more, but I'm going toIt will dilute the ones that you've had. I'm going to say, I actually mentioned everyone that I created, so now that I look.

Sometimes we've had the producer do one, but it's only occurring to me now, and I don't want to put Eric in a tough spot. You didn't have one by That's not a great chance, did you?

No.

I'm also three or no, so I don't want to mess it on my record. I just said on that 1,000 percentage. That's smart.

This is when people retire ahead at the top of the game and stuff. I'm not going anywhere, but I'm just saying I'm not messing up my record.

That's smart. Unless you're absolutely No.

No producers done that, though, to go 3-0. They've typically been horrible.

I'm impressed. All right, Wednesday. It's a big one. It's a big, big one. It's the Mock Sesler Mark draft. How many times have we done it? Got to be around five now, right?

I think I've seen five when I'm doing my lookthroughs.I think this would be six.This might be six, yeah.

I was doing it before we made a show out of it, though. It was a tweet type of situation where...

Right.

A vast majority of people looking at it didn't realize that I didn't actually work in the draft in any capacity.

Did you get any aggregate write-ups?

I don't recall that happening. I don't think it was taking that.

Maybe this year will be different.

It's crazy. We've got to treat it seriously, and I think people will be pulled over their eyes.

You would have thought that an NFL media employee putting out a mock draft would just set the internet on fire. You're getting them fired up.

That's back in the day. One thing that will hurt us is, I would think in terms of being taken seriously, which we struggle with in general as a show, to be taken seriously. But the Mock Sesler Mark draft might be a little bit of a heads up to people that we're not your standard draft. But I stand by it as I think-We're the only Mark draft out there. No other mock draft.

You think Mark Ross is doing a mock draft? No, he's doing a mock draft.

Let's get it actually.It's part of the system. We need someone somewhere to aggregate it, and it is a tremendous victory. Not for me solo, but the show.

Well put. All right, that's it. We'll be back Wednesday. And then after that, we'll be back Thursday, and that will be the night of the draft. So we're getting there. Can't wait. Can't wait. He's the call.