On March 16th, 2000, two sheriffs deputies were shot in Atlanta. A Muslim leader and former black power activist was convicted. But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Moses Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. From Tenderfoot TV, campside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the new Amy and TJ podcast, news anchors Amy Robach and TJ Homes explore everything from current events to pop culture in a way that's informative, entertaining, and authentically groundbreaking. Join them as they share their voices for the first time since making their own headlines. This is the first time that we actually get to say what happened and where we are today. Listen to the Amy and TJ podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Walter Isaacson set out to write about a world-changing genius in Elon Musk and found a man addicted to chaos and conspiracy. I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertips feel for social, emotional networks.

The book launched a thousand hot takes, so I sat down with Isaacson to try to get past the noise. I like the fact that people who say I'm not as tough on Musk as I should be are always using anecdotes from my book to show why we should be tough on Musk. Join me, Evan Ratliff, for On Musk with Walter Isaacson. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello? Is it really you? I wish. Oh, wow. This is such an honor. Obviously, you know this. I'm a big fan. Hi. Hi. How are you feeling after finally getting your bear attack? You listened to the latest app? Of course. Actually, I left a message this morning saying congratulations and talked about a dog attack, but disregard that. Listen, could you believe how the voicemails were like, I was dragged by a wild lion and then all the cars. Or the guy who lost his ear and then didn't give any information or like, What the hell? I know. What a mess. What a misfire. What the hell? Yeah, wow. But I got my bear attack victim. Can you imagine a bear biting your arm?

No, I'm amazed that that bear did him rip off his arm. I'm amazed that his daughter can sleep without a light on. It's just a lot. It is. It's crazy. But at the same time- So now that you have the bear attack, what are you going to do now? What's next? I still want to pursue more bear attacks, to be honest. But there's only 44 years, so what are you going to do? I'm calibrating at all times what's the perfect level of bear attack for an anecdote that is still a... You feel like you could still talk about it. It's like when they're really, really mauled, I think it becomes harder to be an anecdote. What if you expanded it out to other animals? Or does it have to be bears? No, I did. I mean, I said tell me any attack. I know, but I was saying like, What have you got gators in the mix? Like, some other big ass animal or mooses? I don't know. Listen, if anyone's listening now and you were attacked by a gator, you know our lines are always open. I feel that people know this. I think it's an understood thing.

It's given. But today, this is a great segue. We're actually talking about nature today. What does your relationship to nature? What does nature mean to you? How do you incorporate nature into your life? And how do you feel about climate change? Well, the first thing I want to say is to all the misbelievers and haters, climate change is real. It's a problem. It's going to become an issue. I have to represent both sides of everything. But you live in California. You see it all the time. I do, especially Laguna. That's where you're going to get the beautiful beaches, some great hotels. It's a big deal. That's my background. That's what I went to school for. That's what I used to work in. That's why I want to work it in the future. I hike all the time. I talk about it all the time. Tell us. Tell us, tell the listener. What do we do? Is there any hope? What do we do? What do we need to know? What do we do? I feel like I always tell people, know your neighbor and have an extra can of soup in your house. I think that's the best we can do right now, honestly.

Oh, my God. Are the button nature specific for this episode? Funny you should ask that. The worst sound effect I've ever heard. Are you able to hear anything? No. Let's try this one. I'm hearing... Is that rain? Yeah. Is that like a thunderstorm? Yeah. Okay. Now- Whoa. Okay. There's your rain. Okay. That's the thunderstorm. Yeah, that's something I'm on to. And we always have this. Some crickets. I thought I had birds, but I don't. Do you have a coyote or a wolf howl or something? That's a great idea. That would have been a great inclusion. But for now, we'll always have one nature sound. Get Koject on there. Get him to do his job. Okay. So there's nothing we can do. Oh, here's what I was going to do, actually, though. I was going to go... Here with me in studio today, I have someone who I already forget her exact title, but she's worked in the conservation arena for many moons now, bearing several degrees. I forget her name as well, but she says, can of soup. Know your neighbors. A simple can of soup might be the difference between you, eating and starving.

I've been Chelsea Peretti, and that's our news for today. All right. It's so loud on the sound. Is it? Well, it's so quiet on my end. All right. I know, I can't hear it. But yet another- The only other thing I want to say that's not related to nature, whenever I talk about your podcast and I try to convince people to listen, I tell them, and I said in my voice one of the same things about that time. That guy called in, and he said that he found his dad's KK robes at his attic. And he was having a hard time because mom was not giving him any information. God. Can you fucking imagine? No. I know it is weird over the years, the things people have shared. You know, the amenity of a phone call, it still exists. Yeah. What are your secrets? Yeah. I don't know if I want to share with the whole public. Is this loud for you? What are your secrets? What are your secrets? What are your secrets? Oh, I got one. Perfect. Perfect timing. What is my secret? I'm a big fan of your show. There you go.

No. Thank you for loving me. The way I love you. All right. I feel like I should say goodbye because I don't want to ruin such an amazing experience. Bling-ding-ding-ding-ding. Looks like we're out of time. Goodbye. Bling-ding-ding-ding-ding. Looks like we're out of time. Goodbye. Thank you. You said it first, though, technically, but still. We're out of time. Goodbye. Bye. Are you calling from work? I'm looking at work. Yeah. You're looking at it? Yeah. This call is work? Yeah. No, I'm working from home. What are you doing? Are you working? I mean, technically, yeah. I'm working. You're looking at it- Respect. -respect to you, sir. What is your relationship? What? My relationship with nature, is that what we're talking about? Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's something that I appreciate at times when I want to be less stressed about stupid things like what? What? What? What? Keep going. I wanted to listen to the music. You're supposed to talk over the music. It's adding drama to your words. All right, all right, all right. I'll go over. Nature typically, yeah, I'm in the rat race, and it really helps pull me out of there so then I can be some blue ass water, some green ass trees, and it makes me take myself seriously.

That's what nature means to me. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. We did what we came to do. Hello? Hello? Hello? Are you screaming? Can you hear me? Is everything okay? I don't know. You tell me. I don't know either. I truly don't know. I do not know. Do you have one child? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Who's asking? Me, because I have two kids, and I'm always curious to hear other people and about their parenting and about what the hell. What do you do? What do you do as a parent? How do you go from being a cynical person to I have to be hopeful for my kids person? Is that way too dark? I'm so sorry. I don't know. I mean, I think what I try to tell myself, particularly in light of nature, climate change, let's say. Yeah, right? Is that we're animals? No. And my animal desire was to have a job and to have a family and blah, blah, blah. No. Right. Not that everyone's is that. But for me, that's how I think about it. I'm just like, Well, I'm an animal, and I have this instinct to have a kid.

It's true that. I'm going to just hope that the world is okay. I don't know. It's true that. I do have to say I have fun, and I love doing the simplest things. We talk about outside nature because that's the playground, the world's the playground, and it's fun, and kids and they're little... Oh, no. What? That's the studio audience like, I guess nature is the playground. That's what they're thinking. No, I was going to say nature is like nature's playground, but I just thought that the thought doesn't make sense. Where are you right now? I'm in Atlanta. But kids, when they're little, they pick up a rock and they're just like, This is the world. They just hold it and don't you dare put it down. Don't you wash it. And I love that. I know, honey. I love it, too. I do. But I don't know how old your child or children, because I don't know. I don't actually know how old- Do you want his social security number? I know you're a mommy. I do know that. But I have a 10-year-old son and I have a two-year-old daughter. I had a little pandemic, baby.

And man, it's crazy. But it's fun, but it's also effin' crazy. It is. I mean, it's crazy with one. One and a dog. That's already a lot. Listen, people, when I had one, they were like, You better have another. I was like, Why does everyone say that? They're like, Just do it. Oh, God. Do I have another one? I was like, No, I'm good. I'm good. Then we slipped up. Now I have a two-year-old, and now I have that gap, that age gap that people are like, they try to scare you about it. Why? What's the gap? Do you know what's cool? It's just a different perspective. It's a different experience. What's the gap? What is the gap? What did you say? What is the gap? What is the gap? It's about nine years. What is the gap? I know. It's a big one. I was about to be like, Whatever. That's not a big gap. Then I was like- Yes, but I'm a totally different person because I'm 35 and I was 24 when I had my son. So I'mlike my daughter gets a way more patient version of me than my son did.

But I also have way more energy. Energy. I'm fucking on the playground with him. I know. I always think about that. If I had a kid younger, I'd have way more energy, but I guess I'd less- But everything's a trade-off, though. There really are pros and cons, I think. That's why it's good not to listen to everybody else be like, Oh, you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Because you know, you're right, I don't, and neither do you. Someone had a good joke about this. I feel like it was Mocha Kasher, but he was like, Yeah, everyone tells you when you're thinking about having a kid and they have kids, you should do it. It's the happiest you've ever been. Then as soon as you have a kid, they're like, Let me know. Yeah, it's like a trap door opens up. I know. I feel like it's the same- You're miserable with me now. But there is camaraderie in that. That is a thing that other people, people with kids don't understand. But you know, it's funny, too. Okay, I was one of the people in my age group to have a kid before, I'm sorry, my friend group before a lot of my friends did.

So I felt like, Oh, great. I'm the one who has a kid and everybody is going to be a fucking pharmacist or something in college. And then now it's like, they're the ones having kids. I never felt like I'm matched up. You know what I mean? Anyway, this is all to say that I hear people now who are younger and they have their shit together and they're like, no, I will never have children. But also it's the same thing. It's like, but you don't actually know what it's like. I think, hey, baby, here comes my daughter, but they don't know what it's like. Nobody does. It's a fucking gamble. I'm just going to take that as it's nighttime and it's peaceful. It's so nice when it's outside in the dark and nature. Because I'm in the south, so we have big loud cicadas, and they're like... The bug sounds dominate the south in the summer. Would you ever eat a cicada? What? No. What? I mean, would I? If there's something on the line? Let's talk about context, but I'm not just going to pick one up and eat it. The Apocalyptic and Times Climate Collapse.

For sure. For sure. For sure. It's someone smarter than me. It's someone, a culinary person who is like, I can prepare a bug really well. For sure. I'll listen to them first. For sure. Well, you know what I mean? Oh, man. I'm so honored. Hi, kid. Bye, kid. Bye. Bye, Mom. Bye, Atlanta. Oh, my daughter says bye. Bye. Hang on, baby. Let's hear her. Evelyn say, Hey, Chelsie. For sure. She's choking. She's choking right now. Not literally, but... That's when things really took a turn. Oh, no. We've got to go. All right. Thank you so much. Bye. I can't. I can't. It's called Chelsie Brey. You've reached us. We're here in studio. We're talking about nature. What does nature mean to you? Can I tell you something unrelated? I guess so. What is it? I'm a big fan. I think you truly are one of the greats. I've been listening for a long time. I've never called in. This feels like you're gearing up to say, But I hate you. I hate you. Yeah. No, I love you. You're great. I have a story, a medical anomaly story I think you'd be interested in. Okay.

Okay. I'll take it. Okay. Okay. Okay. So one piece of information for this story that's integral is that I have a particularly deep belly button. Oh, God. No, thank you. No, thank you. Fucking shut up. You're triggering buttons I haven't even touched in years. No, thank you. So a few years ago, I noticed a little bit of pain in there. No, thank you. I was feeling around there, and it felt like what I thought was maybe like a scab or something in there. I got out the old tweezers, and I pulled on the thing and it was a struggle. And I pulled out maybe a sunflower seed-sized chunk of a million hairs, all held together by maybe a waxy substance. And it felt so good. And I have dreams to this day of this moment of the relief that I felt of pulling this obstruction out of my body that had been bugging me for months. The end. Oh, wait. Sorry, I hit the wrong one. That's a bad story. Where am I? I need water. Where am I? I need water. Children, children, come on in for supper. Come on in for supper. It's a handball with wax.

Fresh out of the deepest belly button you left on the inside. Come on, Dr. Elvis. There we go. That's honestly disgusting. I don't know what to do with you, dude. I don't know, dude. I don't know. Let's see if we got any music that... Oh, this is good. Silence is the purest truth (laughter) (laughing) ( ♪ silence is the purest truth ( ♪ silence is the purest truth ( ♪) (laughing) ( ♪ silence is the purest truth ( ♪)I know it's time to make it end. I've almost had enough (laughing). Because listening to you has got far, far too tough (laughing). How did we get to this point? Now did we get so far away from what we were before, away from to be really out of it. Awakened in danger, no hope of a bed. This little lane here is where he'll try sleep instead. The shop fronts are closing as he walks with no aim and with nowhere worth going, he'll stay out in the rain. Christmas isn't Christmas when you're homeless. Donate now to DublinSIMON@dubsimon. Ie. On March 16th, 2000, two sheriff's deputies were shot in Atlanta. Jameel Al-Amin, a Muslim leader and former black power activist, was convicted.

But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Mosie's Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. He said to me, You want me to take care of them for not doing something or paying you or something like that? I said, No, what are you talking about? But I had no idea who he had become. That's how he approached you? You know what he meant when he said that. Yeah, I'm thinking murder in a minute. I think that's what he was thinking too. From Tenderfoot TV, Campside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the new Amy and TJ podcast, Amy Robach and TJ Homes, a renowned broadcasting team with decades of experience delivering headline news and captivating viewers nationwide are sharing their voices and perspectives in a way you've never heard before. They explore meaningful conversations about current events, pop culture, and everything in between. Nothing is off limits. This was a scandal that wasn't, and this was not what you've been sold.

The Amy and TJ podcast is guaranteed to be informative, entertaining, and above all, authentic. It marks the first time Robach and Holmes speak publicly since their own names became a part of the headlines. This is the first time that we actually get to say what happened and where we are today. Listen to the Amy and TJ podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And in conclusion. You seem like a real sweetheart, but I got to go. Oh, God. Oh, A. G. Willicose. Hello? Hello? Hi. It's a cool... Oh, my God. You're talking to you. It's a cool... I'm pretending you're my dog. Hi, baby, it's Kuki. Hey, little baby, it's Kuki. How are you, little cutie? Is that how you talk to your dog? Yeah. What do you mean? Honestly, same. You're going to be like a cutie. You have to. You got to. Now you surely know the topic. Let's see if you do. I'm talking about nature's importance, right? The importance of nature? That's your timing. Now, are you a drum roll engineer? Do you study drum rolls and non-traditional use of drum rolls? And that's exactly right.

That and the importance of nature, obviously. Everything. So well, I live in a really big city now, but I'm originally from Seattle. So for me, nature is like being outside in the green, it's healing. It's totally like I need to go find a place in nature at least once a week and disconnect because I can't do the city. I can't do it. And when you go there, you don't use your phone at all? I try not... I try not to, but I'm really bad at that because I'm very much addicted to social media, honestly. Isn't it funny, though, that you said disconnect? You're just like on your iPhone in a cabin. Literally more connected than any human has ever been. I wouldn't be, but I got to say, everyone you know you got to see what's going on Instagram. I'm truly RE Instagram. I'm starting to think... I'm trying to think. But on the other hand, how would I promote my podcast? See, this is where we're in a bit of a pickle. I'm on the same side as you. I'm thinking about leaving social media, but I live in a different country than the rest of my family and friends.

So that's a really annoying thing that's keeping me there, honestly. I know. Well, that's the thing with all technology, right? It's like, Oh, I don't want to be on my phone, but I need it to use the GPS to navigate here. I don't want to be on my phone, but it's my clock. I don't want to be on my phone, but it's how I track my steps. I don't want to be on my phone, but it's how I keep in touch with my friend in another country. I don't want to be on my phone, but blah, blah, blah. Pretty soon, you're on your phone. I mean, my phone, when it sends me updates, it's like you were using your phone 24 hours yesterday. I'm like, What? You're in trouble. Yep. I was. I'm like... Where am I? I need water. I'm like, Wait, did they change the number of hours in a day? Because I know I slept yesterday. It's so disorienting. I'm like, I guess I'm just always holding it. It's like a cigarette, but it's like a cigarette that you can have indoors, in mixed company, in a movie. It's like the perfect cigarette, honestly.

It sucks a lot. The one thing that drives me nuts that I'm really good at, I have to say for myself, is at a table in a restaurant with other people, I do not look at my phone because that drives me insane. Yeah. Mixed reaction to that one, okay. Yeah, the crowd wasn't sure. No, I don't know. I mean, I remember when iPhones or I don't know what, they just got more and more popular and people there was a long period of time where people started getting on their phones all the time more. This is poorly articulated, but the point being there was a time where people would go, Everyone's on their phones. They would like, Point it out. Like, Oh, my God. Look at you're on your phone. You're on your phone. You're on your phone. I guess maybe people do that somewhat still, but I would be so like, Yeah, whatever, we're on our fucking phones. I guess what I said before is part of the issue. It's like, well, if you use your phone to see what the babysitter, if there's any updates, if you use it to see what time it is, if you use it to remember if you took your vitamins or whatever the fuck it is, how do you not look attoo.

How do you not look at it? There's those comedians that were like, you have to put your phone in a pouch or some shit if you're going to go there. I know. Fuck that. That's too much. I was like, How does anyone with kids do that? I would never do that. Is that extreme? I don't want my phone off for two hours, and I don't know what's going on with my kid. No. I feel that way. This is a much smaller level, but I am a teacher, and I put my phone away when I'm teaching, obviously. But I have my Apple Watch because I'm like, I don't know what if there's a car crash. Right. Now your Apple Watch- My mom makes me get a whole... Does your Apple Watch give you car crash alerts? No. What if my mom's trying to call me because there was an emergency car crash. Could you imagine, though, how stressful if every time there was any car crash, your Apple Watch was like, Car crash. You know how anything you're scared of doing, people are like, Well, cars are 10,000 times the more dangerous. It just doesn't feel that way.

When you get in a car, it feels mundane. But if you got car crash alerts on your Apple Watch every time there was an accident- Every time it happens. And I don't know if we're even just talking in your city or if we're talking globally. I think this is a great idea. Every time there's a car crash globally, you get a zolt to your little zing-Zong. You get a little jolt to your wrist and it says, Car crash. Car crash. And you're like, Oh. I mean, if you imagine, yeah, you would just be constantly... It would just be one long buzz, I guess. It wouldn't stop. Yeah. No, it would be keep you awake, I guess. I guess you would have to limit it to your city. That might even be, depending on where you live, could be hit or miss. Literally. Hit or miss. Why? La la la la la la la la le. Bye. Bye. La la la la la la la le. (cell phone ringing) Hello? Hey. You wanted to know what nature is to me? I sure did. Thanks for getting right down to it. Can you talk louder, though? I can barely hear you.

Of course, I can. I feel like there's two different sides to nature, the word for me. One largely revolves around the outdoors and moth. Okay, hold on. Okay. Was that- So quiet. That was a ding. I'll announce this. Was that a point for moth? Yeah. Okay. Then the other side of it is the nature aspect of people and what constitutes the old adage of nature versus nurture. Exactly. I thought you might be saying that. Or it could be both, depending on how high you are, right? You could feel like one with the Moth. Yeah, it could be like a similar cast of what is nature or nurture for a buck in the wild? That's both nature and nature. Oh, boy. This is like philosophy class. Let me tell you, if there's one thing I didn't like, it was philosophy class. You know what? Actually, I did like it. But then I felt really betrayed because I read all these hardcore feminists, and then I realized their lives weren't the same as the things they said. But the long story short. I don't know if you're friends with any philosophy majors, but when they start talking philosophy, momma, momma, I need a snore sound effect.

I need a snore. I need a snore. I think this was while adding- Didn't I don't have one. -you don't have one? Oh, no, Kojack was adding snore sound effects. I need one on the board, though. I need one on the board, honey. You have to have it at your fingertips. Ready at command. That's right. Yeah, I know. I think that it's interesting. Who do you feel like is a feminist that didn't live it? Gross. Sorry, I hit that with my... No, I hit that with my knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, I'm glitching. Knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle, knuckle. I'm of glitching. I call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call, I call. I got to start getting out of these calls sooner. I'm being too languid. Do you know that word? Languid? (phone ringing) -Hello? -hey, Chelsea. Hey. What's up? I've been looking for someone like you. And you've been looking for somebody too. Okay, I felt compelled to call because you've been mentioning help professional. Okay. And I happen to be one. Oh, shit. What do you got for us?

Okay. I was honored when you did the whole jackpot thing, but then the crashing brought me back down to Earth. And that's what I was going for. I was like, wow, here we are. We're celebrating you. But at the same time, what do you bring to the table? Let's get down to brass tacks. I don't know. What do you want to know? Well, what are you... You only said that you're a health professional. Can you elaborate? Medical doctor. Okay. I'm a board-certified implement currently. I accidentally hit that with my hand. But it's more inspired than what I was going to do, which was just listen. You know what? It bumps the energy right back up. Okay, so you say you're a medical professional. It's like you're being so cagey with the dates, girl. What's your field? Tell me anything I can latch on to. Don't make me the bad guy here. I just want to know you. Well, I'm in training to be a hematologist, oncologist. Now, what is hematology? The study of blood? Yep. Do you do vampire facials? Unfortunately, no. But- Have you heard of them? -is something interesting to look into. I read that they are bullshit because...

Okay, so they take your blood out and spin it, and they say they're separating. I've never done this. I think it does seem idiotic. They take your blood, they put it in some canister shit that's probably fake. Then they say they're spinning it for, I don't know, 10 minutes or something, and then they're rubbing half of it on your face or some shit like that. That's my basic understanding. But then in the comments, I was reading someone on one of these posts of a... No, not a dermatologist, a facialist. In the comments, someone's like, I work in the medical field. You can't separate blood in 10 minutes. It takes like two hours or something like that. Do you want to weigh in? Hematologist. Is it possible to separate blood in a very short amount of time? I want to say no. 10 minutes feels pretty fast, but in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm not the one centred-refusing blood. I honestly don't know how long it takes. What are you doing? What are you doing with blood? Mostly looking at it under a microscope. And what are you looking for? I guess it depends on what's going on with the patient.

We look for all kinds of stuff. But honestly, I'm more interested in the oncology- Hold on. I'm still interested in blood. I have a question. Well, if you ever get some blood and you're looking at it under your microscope, what makes you go, holy moly, you take your little glasses off. You clean your lens. You're like, What is going on with this blood? What would make you do have a strong reaction to a blood sample on a microscope? It's not just that Sammy has had his world torn apart by the conflict. It's not just that he has lost everyone that he ever loved, and it's not just that Sammy is only seven years old. Right now, children are being forced to live through unimaginable horrors in Gaza and around the world. And it's not just. This Christmas, your help could make all the difference. Visit trokra. Org or call 1-800-408-408. Trokra, together for a just world. On March 16th, 2000, two sheriff's deputies were shot in Atlanta. Jamil Al Amin, a Muslim leader and former Black power activist, was convicted. But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial.

My name is Moses Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. He said to me, You don't need to take care of them for not doing something to pain you or something like that? I said, No, what you talking about? But I had no idea who he had become. That's how he approached you. He know he meant when he said that. Yeah, I'm thinking murder in a minute. I think that's what he was thinking too. From Tenderfoot TV, Camside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When Walter Isaacson set out to write his biography of Elon Musk, he believed he was taking on a world-changing figure. That night, he was deciding whether or not to allow Starlink to be enabled to allow a sneak attack on Crimea. What he got was a subject who also sowed chaos and conspiracy. I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertips feel for social, emotional networks. And when I sat down with Isaacson five weeks ago, he told me how he captured it all.

They have cans of spray paint, and they're just putting big X's on machines. And it's almost like kids playing on the playground. Just chews them up left, right, and center. And then like, Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, he doesn't even remember it. Getting the bars doesn't excuse being a total of. But I want the reader to see it in action. My name is Evan Ratliff, and this is On Musk with Walter Isaacson. Join us in this four-part series as Isaacson breaks down how he captured a vivid portrait of a polarizing genius. Listen to Aynne Musk on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, definitely if I see some parasite inside a red blood cell, that would be- What would that be? Like malaria. What does malaria look like? It looks like a ring inside the cell. And typically, you don't see anything inside of a red blood cell. Now, do people just ever get their blood drawn for no reason? Just to be like, Okay, check it out. Is anything up with it? Yeah, I'm sure. But I'm not really looking at those- Hypochondriacs? -at the blood under a microscope.

All right. Well, listen, thank you for your call. I can't do anymore. It's like pulling teeth to get any info, Doc. Hello? Holy shite. Holy moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly moly. My goodness. I'm a certified parade head. Well... I can do this for you. You're in love with me. I'm in love with you. You're in love with me. The way I love you. Oh, God bless you. What is it this one? Broken and alone. Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. Same. Hey, listen, I know this is supposed to be about nature, but I literally just got in the mail my favorite eyeliner ever, and I just needed to share it with you because I'm curious if you also use it and like it. Should I even bother having topics? I was trying to be more organized this run around and post the topic, and then everyone's just calling like, Hey, you know what? I'll talk about whatever you please. No, listen. No one's passionate about nature. It's just, you know, We very simply need to set up our final interview of this podcast. We got a dozy, a couple that's a bit of a dozy in the nature department.

So what's the eyeliner, though? I would like to know. Okay. So it's Victoria Beckham's Kajal eyeliner. Please spell. K-a-j-a-l. K-a-j-a-l? Yeah, no idea what it means. Well, let's look it up. Let's see. It is absolutely wonderful. And it does not give you that line in the crease. It's just very silky. And then it dries mat. Yeah. And what is the color? And it's fabulous. I have the gold. I have the- No, but what's cajol? What's cajol? I don't know, man. That's what I'm calling in to ask you. I thought you should know. You're the guy. Oh, that's the name of the liner, not the color. Do you know what's funny? I'm actually hitting every button on accident today, but they're perfectly timed and curated. My knuckle are on fire. I would love to get your review, perhaps like a five page book report on this eyeliner. Creamy texture is what it says. I don't know about a creamy texture. I have those deep set eyes like a cork would have. And I'm telling you, man, I do not get that. But does it creamy, smear, and smudge? So you do get a little smudgy smudge, but only if you want it.

The end of the liner has that little, I don't know, smudgy, sticky-poof thingy-ma-jiggy. And you can do the really cute, smoky eye. But if you just let it dry, it doesn't smudge. Okay, cool. All right. All right. All ready, all right. All ready, all ready, all ready. All ready, all ready. All ready, all right. All right. All right. Here's the thing. My favorite eyeliner, I ran out and I kept putting off the purchasing it. It was a Christian Dior eyeliner. I don't even remember buying it, but anyway, it was in the silver eyeliner. The outside of it is silver, and the liner itself was like a brown gray. I like that. It was such a pretty color, brownish gray. No blue feeling to it, like a warm gray. And it was the perfect under eyeliner, okay? Yeah, never heard of such a thing. It sounds gorgeous. But this line has several metallic shades, and they're all freaking amazing. Make up to Victoria B. Love you. What are you, an Avon lady? I got to go, girl. Avon Lady. Hello? Hey. Hi. Welcome to the party line. Are there others here? Yeah, just me. But I'm others.

Okay. Is the topic still nature? Yeah. What do you think? No one so far has really been too passionate. Even a woman who was a self-reclaimed environmentalist didn't have too much to say on the topic in a weird way. Okay. I'm not an environmentalist, but I love being in nature for sure. Do you do a lot of hikes? For sure. Do I do a lot of hikes? I do like hikes. For sure. I really need a partner, though. I need someone to go, Let's go for a hike, and I go, Let's do it. For sure. It does take a lot out of you, the incline, but those views and being in nature, it's worth it. I need a hike partner. I need someone to say, Hey, let's go hike. I used to hike all the time. I'm actually starting to melt down right now. I used to go for two hour hikes and incline on hot days. Have you ever done hiking and camping? You know what? I really want to. I went camping with my dad as a child, but now I don't know. There is a part of me that's a little scared.

Yeah, well, sometimes you can hike between cabins like you rent. Well, I mean, I don't know. You don't have to be in a tent. I know. Okay. I did that this summer in the Alps, the French Alps. Really? And so what? You stayed in cabins and you hiked how many miles a day? Miles, I don't know, but I know it was maybe 25 to 27 kilometers a day. God, I was going to make a joke about kilometers, but you really did measure in kilometers. You never translated. Are you from the States? I am, but I was living over there for a bit, and I just forgot about miles. I can't believe you weren't always translating in your head to really go, Okay, I walked 12 miles. No, I had to learn military time and that was tough. Now, military- 19 o'clock. Dude, military time, I truly have to say, I don't understand it. I don't know the difference between cities and states. Okay? Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. I have a question. It's not related to nature. Yeah, well, join the club. Yeah, well, join the club. Yeah, well, join the club. This is not food test.

It's just like I want to know your opinion. Pancake or waffles? There are certain foods like Mac and cheese, for example, that vary so drastically from place to place, right? Yeah, there's a lot to consider. Here's what I hate for a Pancake and a waffle, actually, it's the same thing. I hate a gummy texture, rubbery. The worst Pancake is rubbery. The worst Pancake, if you rub it against the pavement, it sounds like this. A waffle. My dream waffle is really crispy on the outside and really soft on the inside. But then you got your lemon- They're your panca, so they need to have a crispy edge. Oh, I mean, I love that. Yeah, I would love that. Now, there's also a lemon Richota Pancake. There's also Blueberry Panca. There's pumpkin panca. There's corn panca that are more dense, which I actually do like. There's buckweed panca. I love buckweed panca. I guess if I had to choose, I might say panca, but the problem is those rubbery ones are pretty common, and same with waffles. It's the same. A lot of times when I order panca or waffles as like, It's for the table. It's a splurge.

Then I regret it because it's not as good as I want it to be. I think both, though, make you feel like shit after. 100%. That's what they have in common. And that's the nature of pancares. That's the nature of flour. Flour is a grain. Grain is our nature. We did it. Let's start hanging up during jackpots. That way people feel good still. Hello. Hello. Hello. This is your grandma. All right. Hello. That sounds exactly like, My grandmother may she rest in peace. Hello. Sometimes I do an impression of my grandmother that makes me miss her. Hello. Hi. Long time, first time. How the hell are you? It's a terrible thing. Oh, one more time? It's a terrible thing. Yes, I'm true that. I'm living like Larry. How are you? Hello? Hello? Hello? Oh, you're not able to hear me. Hello? Oh, sad times. I'm doing an impression of my deceased grandmother, and it's making me miss her. Actually, literally just saying hello like that, it fills me with incredible nostalgia. Hello? I'm creeping myself out. This is like a Ouija board, and you're being involved in a seance right out of the gate. Oh, I love that.

Thank you. My grandma would also be like, He don't know. He don't know about this or that. He don't know. Well, it's a terrible thing. I go, Do you want to get this dessert and split it and split it? And she'd be like, You get your own. I'll have one and you have one. She never would share bites of anything. God, over. We missed you, Grandma. She sounds lovely. You hang up on me. Listen, it would be warranted, okay? Oh, wait, I know what. I have a food test for you. You ready? Yeah. Okay, I'm going to set you up here. Gravy. What about gravy? Is it good or is it bad? Is it good? It very much depends on the dish. A good, nice brown gravy at Thanksgiving, that's all right. Maybe, like the biscuits and gravy. Oh, all right. Gravy, really, to me, is not good. I never was into gravy. It feels like- That's completely fine. It's more for me. You don't need to have it. It's not okay. It's not okay. We're at odds. You love it. I hate it. What are we going to do here? What should we do?

I don't know. Well, you can get your own, and I can get mine. Just like your grandma. That's a great idea. We'll do it. All right. Are you calling about nature? Honestly. Oh, yeah, I was calling about nature. Yeah, I try. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, no, nature is awesome, and it's going to persist forever until the sun blows up. Yeah, we as a human species were so stubborn we made rocks talk to each other, and that's how we got phones and shit. But after we die, nature is just going to keep taking over. Even if radiation hits it like crazy, it'll find a way. Yeah, I do sometimes take comfort in that old theory. That old, Hey, Earth will continue. We just won't, right? Absolutely. I don't know. I love being a speck of dust. How old are you, child? Twenty-one. I knew it. I love being a speck of dust. I'm like, You have no kids. Yeah, I don't have any kids, though. It's so much easier to be abstract and philosophical in that way. But whatever, we all have to get through life, huh? Yeah. It's how we do it, yeah. Let's see.

I feel like I need like... I love being a speck of dust. I love being a speck of dust. I love being a speck of dust, dust, dust, dust. I wish there was a song for that, but I don't know. What's this? Instead of hatred, I choose love. I love being a speck of dust. I love being a speck of dust. I love being a speck of dust. I love being a speck of dust. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. Share, stream, download and connect more with Ireland's best value 5G prepay offer on Air Mobile. For just 20 euro top-up, you can get no limits data, unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and 5G at no extra cost, meaning you can connect faster, stronger, and better than before. Now that's a no-brainer. To switch to Air Mobile, go in-store or visit air. Ae. Subject to 20 or top-up every 28 days, fair usage applies. For full term, see air. Ae. On March 16th, 2000, two sheriff's deputies were shot in at Atlanta. Jamil Al-Amin, a Muslim leader and former black power activist, was convicted.

But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Mosheed Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. He said to me, You want me to take care of them for not doing something to pain you or paying you something like that? I said, No, what are you talking about? But I had no idea who he had become. That's how he approached you? You know what he meant when he said that? Yeah, I'm thinking murder in a minute. I think that's what he was thinking too. From Tenderfoot TV, Campside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the new Amy and TJ podcast, Amy Robach and TJ Homes, a renowned broadcasting team with decades of experience delivering headline news and captivating viewers nationwide, are sharing their voices and perspectives in a way you've never heard before. They explore meaningful conversations about current events, pop culture, and everything in between. Nothing is off limits. This was a scandal that wasn't, and this was not what you've been sold.

The Amy and TJ podcast is guaranteed to be informative, entertaining, and above all, authentic. It marks the first time Robach and Holmes speak publicly since their own names became a part of the headlines. This is the first time that we actually get to say what happened and where we are today. Listen to the Amy and TJ podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I guess a song for that would maybe be this song is Not a metaphor by Brian David Gilbert. It doesn't really have to do with Dust, but it's an all right song for a weird, existential, essential dread for absurdism, where it's Nothing Matters, smiley face. Nothing really matters. Okay, I don't know that song, so I can't really comment. I'm going to have to say, You're a little cute little speck of dust, all right? Stay cute, little speck of little dust, you little cute. I'm going to talk to you like my dog and then hang up on you. Ready? Okay. Okay, hold on. It's just a cute little baby. It's just a cute little baby, toogie. It's just a cute little baby, toogie.

No biting. No biting. It's just a dokey dokey, dokey, dokey. You're so cute. And it's over. And that's like giving a shot or something. You make it painless. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to The All-Jersey and Breydy. Today is a theme that no one is really speaking to. It is nature. Hello. Kelsey, is that you? Hello? Am I missing something? Nature sounds, I guess. I love nature. Wait, is this happening right now? Am I missing something? Chelsea, stop it. Oh, my God. You're freaking me out. What do you mean is this happening right now? I didn't know. This is my first time ever calling. I didn't know what was going on. I can't believe I'm talking to you right now. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Wait, I can't hear you that well. I got in my car on my break at work, and I saw you posted the number. So I was like, let me just call for shifts and gigs, see what happens. Of course. And here we are. And here you are, driving around the streets unsafely on a podcast. I'm in Alaska right now, so the roads are really icy. That's nature.

That's what it's like driving everywhere. Alaska is like- I can talk about- I didn't know it. Yeah, it's really horrible right now, but those summers are gorgeous. Summers are gorgeous. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's how I feel every day. I haven't seen a bear up here yet, though. I was just listening to your episode about the bear attack. What bear attack? Well, there hasn't been a bear attack, but I was listening to your one where you're asking people, the one you just posted. And I was like, If I see a bear, I would love to tell Sophie a story about a bear. But I've seen a moose. And did it charge at you? It did not. I'm too scared. But we were just driving past it, and we just looked at it. We were like, Wow, a moose. Wait, so wait, all I think about in Alaska is like all the reality shows that I've seen about Alaska. There was a time where - Like Ice Road Truckers. Just all of it. I mean, anytime you turned your TV on, it was like, Alaska Home Builders, Alaska people building fires. Alaska people. I was like, How much of a tax?

What do you call that? They give incentives to shoot in different places like Atlanta. I was like, It must be - I don't know much about that. Yeah. Well, it's got to be dirt cheap to shoot in Alaska. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah, I know they do have a lot of laws about it because they're very big on protecting the native land still, which I think is cool. Laws about shooting? They're very specific on where you can and what you can and can't, how much you can and can't. Well, that's crazy considering how many shows there are. I know. Like the deadliest catch and stuff. You're talking about hunting? I don't know. I don't do any of it. I don't know anything. What are you doing in Alaska? Dare I ask. So it's - shooting porn. Me and my boyfriend are really, really good friend is from up here. They went to college together. And she is always like to the lower 48ers like, hey, jokingly come up and move to Alaska. And we were like, okay. So we moved up from Phoenix just this past summer. Wow. You're going from one end of the weather spectrum to another.

Yeah. And it's my first winter ever. I grew up in Texas, so I'm so new to me, but I'm doing well so far. Now are you on social media posting about your life change? Yeah, somewhat. I don't post a lot, but my friends know that I'm up here. Okay. Because that is a show I would watch, you and your boyfriend in Alaska. Oh, yeah. A teacher and a barista just doing Alaskan things up in Alaska. Yeah. So is he working at a chic cafe? No, I'm the barista. I work at the biggest coffee chain in fucking the world. Oh, If you catch my drug- I reject. I'm not. He's a high school teacher. Wow. A coffee maker. Yeah, we're just educating the youth and giving them coffee. That's what we do. You're making this world run. Exactly. You're making this world have diarrhea, and you're making it. Exactly. Let's talk about the bathroom at your workplace. I hate our bathrooms. Tell me everything. Part of my job is keeping an eye on who uses our bathrooms. And a lot of people don't use our bathrooms well because we have an open bathroom policy at our company, so we can't really say no to people.

So then you got people doing Jack shit in the bathroom all the time. I'm like, I just work here to make coffee. I'm not trying to be the bathroom police. You got people absolutely spattering that bathroom. Exactly. Exactly. It's nasty. They're giving you a little Grande spatter if you follow my drift. More like a venti. Yeah, I don't know. What is a venti? I don't remember. It's the big one. See, I was one of those people that you probably hate where I was just like, if I ever have to go there because I don't like that place. You neither. I would say small or large. Do you hate that? And that's fine. No, I don't mind that at all. I hate more when people are like, Oh, what is it? Let me think of the word. Let me think of the word. I'm like, Just babe. Small, medium, large. I got you. I've been working here. I know what you're up about. Do you ever call them a bitch? I will get firedtired, if I were to die. But behind their mouthing, yes, they do. Just say small bitch. Just say big. I kill them with kindness.

Well, in your honor- Cuffy. Cuffy. Cuffy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes. And what about this? What's what I needed? Espresso. Espresso. Espresso. I love it. I love it. Now- I love you so so much. I know you usually cut it short. I have to go back in. I was just on my own time to get a break. I didn't think any answers. Oh, shit. I know. Oh, shit. You are leaving me. I know. Time to go. Time to go. That's my thing. It's time to go now. Bye. But I love you so much. I'm so glad I got to talk to you. Oh, listen, you too. You're a sweetheart. I hope you have a grand day time at work. Thank you so much, Chelsea. Toodle-oo. Toodle-oo. Bye. Bye. I was going to be like, It's not bye. It's bye for now. But I couldn't remember what it was. Hi. Oh, my God. Did I tell you? Are you in a cafeteria? Am I here? Are you here? Are you in a cafeteria? Where did you just walk to? A more secure, quiet location? Nope. I did. Yeah. No, I did. I'm at work.

I just walked into one of the private rooms. You bad girl. You bad, bad girl. Bored at work? Well, I've had a really good day at work today, so I deserve this. What does a good day at work entail? Bored at work? I'm a recruiter. So I get new clients and I please people, and I got a new client today, and I found a young gentleman a new job. Board at work. Today. Thanks. That's got to feel good, huh? What's the job? The job? What job that I got the person? Yeah. It's an assistant property manager. Now, you don't think they got it for themself with their skill set? Oh, no, he did. But I introduced him to the opportunity. That's pretty cool. So then do you make a percentage of that job? Or how does it work? I do. Yeah, I make a percentage of it. So he's basically getting like, I get 25 % of his first year's salary. Well, I mean, my company, I don't get all of that. I wish I did. But then I get a smaller percentage of that. And do you try to get the price, his annual salary up so that that 25 doesn't infringe on his earnings?

I do like to get that up as much as possible, but within reason, because I don't want to screw over my client. Right. This is my question. Is it worth it for people to use a recruiter? It depends, yeah. I mean, if you're willing to pay the fee for it, if you have a job that you need filled and it's $100,000, I'm going to charge you $25,000 to find a person. So if you're willing to pay that, then hell, yeah, it's worth it. And I provide a really good service. Where do you find talented candidates? I mean, everywhere. I find them on LinkedIn. I find them in my company's database. I post jobs, and then I call people all day long. You work hard. Well, I tell people. That's the impression that I want to give off. I guess I don't work as hard as I could. But I work hard just enough. You know what I mean? Wow. Interesting. So are you going to keep working for the rest of the day? Or do you feel like you've earned your day? I haven't earned my keep yet. I do need to post the job.

I do need to post one job on the internet. But then I'm going to head out of here. What is the job? I got a new job today. It's like a little administrative role. It's a small one. Okay. And then do people have to pay anything outside of that percentage to use your services if you want a job? No, that's about it. All right. Wow. What do you think about nature? All right. Nature? The theme today was nature. Oh, yeah. I saw that, nature. I think that nature is our core. It's back to the basics. Anything outside of nature is extra. It's- Do you think we're too estrange from how food is made? Oh, my God. Yeah. What do you feel about fake meat, like that vegan meat? Well, I do feel like if it would save the earth, I would become vegan. I think that fake meat often tastes pretty good. The only thing is that I don't know that it's particularly good for you a lot of times. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything natural about it. I think that there might be actually things in real meat that are good for you that I don't even know if fake meat has or not.

I agree. But I don't know. I think there's developments all the time. I don't want to speak out of school because I'm not up to speed on all the fake meat tech, as it were. Do you have any tips for people who have an important job interview and they're nervous? What do you suggest they do? I suggest be yourself. I think that's the most cliché thing ever. But don't overdo it. Just have a conversation and make the interviewer laugh. Laugh. Have a good time. Make a joke. Crack a joke. Be likable. They want to work with people who are likable, and that's my tip of the day. All right. Well, thank you so much. Congrats on your day. It is crazy how there's so many jobs that are basically being a middleman between people. Anyway, this episode is about nature, okay? It is about nature and spirit, but actually, it's not really about much of anything. Except we are about to turn a corner and we are about to take a call. Well, really, it's a a video chat with two people, a couple, presumably people who copulate, people who live together, people who dream together, and people who take action together.

What did they do? You're going to find out next. I'm Natalie. Jonathan. Do you mind just telling us your story? Yes. So we moved from Long Island, New York, up to Vermont in 2019, February. And there was snow on the ground because it snows a lot here. Okay. And then spring came around and we were like, whoa, that's a lot of grass that we didn't know was there. We just assumed it had been more fields or unmaintained. But the previous owners had cut pretty much all of the five acres of grass that we have and they maintained it. And there were nights where he would be cutting grass at 10 o'clock at night, and he would have started in the morning. What? 10 days. Yeah. And luckily- We had our little lawnmower has the lights. That really takes working remotely to a whole new level. You're just out on some lawnmower all day working on your laptop at the same time. I've taken a few falls on the tractor. It's happened. That's crazy. So how long did it take you to figure out this creative fix that you came up with? It's really badly that came up.

Two years. So basically what you did, let's blow our wood, it's time for the money shot. What you did, you planted. Well, how did you get this idea and what did you do? You say it. Our neighbor we had met up here works a company that sells seeds. We had mentioned like, Oh, what could we do with our property and what could we do differently besides the grass? Because we just didn't really… We don't enjoy the lawn. Some people do, it wasn't for us. And she said, Oh, you should try a wildflower meadow. And so we looked into it a little bit more and then ended up doing one of them. Wait, so who's the person you asked who gave you this idea? Our friend Hadley, she works for American Meadows. We just happened to meet her during the pandemic because she was staying with her mom, who is our neighbor. And we spent a lot of time together. And we were just musing on what to do with some of the property. And she was like, oh, I have an idea. What is American Meadows? They're a seed company out of Vermont that works on doing regional based seeds.

And that was important to us because we didn't want to bring in... We wanted to try to minimize non-native species. You wanted a native. That's very typical of the times we live in. People are trying to do the right thing all over the place. You know what I mean? Yeah. So here you are. You've got a meadow expert friend. I was reading about it, and you said you were seeing the first little baby's breath come up. And in the beginning of the pandemic, I had a little zucchini plant, and it had a flower. And my son was like, I think, three at the time, and he tore it off and it never grew. And it was literally all I had because there's nothing to do. And I was just like, a zucini is coming in. A zucini is coming in. I was like, This is it. This is going to be something. Then it just never did come. And I really was like... For a day, I was like, I couldn't let go of it. I was just haunted by the loss because there was really nothing going on. So I imagine having a massive wild flower garden really lifted your spirits.

Yeah, definitely. We did it because we thought it would be pretty and because we didn't want to mow anymore. And it was just honestly so surprising how many people also like other people around our area got that same little bit of joy from it. And you used it, didn't you? You used it to make friends. You used it for social caching. Sorry. Sometimes I watch a lot of courtroom dramas. So that's cool. So it brought you together. It created community. Yes. And we moved up here knowing one family, and they live about 40 minutes away. And that first season with the Meadow, people were talking about it around town that we didn't know yet. And we had a few people who would stop by and just say, Oh, thank you so much. We love coming to drive by and see it during the pandemic. People sent cards, thank you notes, made the cookies. Someone brought us a beautiful bouquet of Gladiola from his garden. Yeah, from their flower. Then then as we started to meet more and more people, we'd be like, Oh, yeah, this is where we live. They're like, Oh, you guys have the Meadow.

We're like, Yeah. That's awesome. And everyone started to know us as the people with the Meadow, which was pretty cool. It's an E. T. X. Breaker. But it helped establish us in the community, and I didn't have to cut grass. Yeah. So now where do you go from here? I read that you've grown another meadow maybe at a neighbor's house or something. Yeah, it's right next to our house, and it's really pretty. It's a good one. Yeah. So we expanded that, and now we still have some grass left that we don't cut. So we cut a minimal amount of lawn, and then we'll turn more of our property into meadows. Have you ever thought about putting a wild flower garden on your roof? Oh, good idea. It's like how far could you take it before it would actually start alienating people? You grow it on your roof, then you grow it in your sink, you got the meadows growing on your floor. Or all of a sudden, all your neighbors that were coming over, Hey, here's cookies. Here's Gladiomas. They're like, Hey, man. They just keep walking because they're like, These guys, they got to learn some other social skills.

This isn't the only way to make friends. You have a cup full of- Just about the flowers. I think we could drop them from helicopters. Like, just see the entire town. Yeah, drop. Yeah. Yeah. And just have wild flowers everywhere. I think we should just be meadow visual andies. Yeah. I mean, would there be any harm in that if you're using all native flowers? I don't think so. No. So maybe you should do that. Now, were you people that were nature oriented prior to this or not so much? Yeah. I've always been an outdoorsman hunting and fishing, whether some people agree that that connects to nature or not. Very controversial. Do you ever have a bear encounter? Yeah, we've got mostly black bears, and they're afraid of everything. So unless they have a cub with them, it's not really like I see a bear. And I'm like, oh, cool, a bear. Do you ever kill any coyotes? I have not. I'm probably controversial, depending upon if you're a hunter or not. I am very much pro-coyote. Why? Well, at least here I know that there are other areas where they're somewhat invasive, but here I feel like they're very useful animals in the food chain for keeping the ecosystem balance.

What? Little vermin and stuff? Yeah. Yeah, and sick deer. I'm also very pro-wolf. I would repopulate all of natural wolf populations. Are you part wolf? How could you repopulate? Now you're buried the lead with this whole wildflower business. I didn't know you were part wolf. I mean, that wasn't what you asked about. Right. It's silly me. I figured it would be a surprise. What's your favorite wildflower before we get out of here? What's the name of mine? Loopin. Loopin. Oh, Loopin is gorgeous. Loopin? Loopin? I've seen in the Cierra a lot. Yeah. It's beautiful. I'm a poppy girl. I like poppies. I agree on poppies. I agree on loopin. Loopin? Is that how you say it? I think. I'm pretty sure. Anyway. Someone will correct us on the end of that. Yeah, I would like to get some wildflowers going maybe. Well, I want to thank you for coming and taking a chance on Call Jelsie Pritty. This is a relaunch. You're now part of another regrowth. Not just your wildflowers, but this very podcast. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, that's great. I love that for us. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I love being a speck of dust. Bye.