Hi, welcome to Cheers. I'm your host, Avery Woods. The following episode contains sensitive topics of eating disorders that could potentially trigger emotional distress or discomfort. Please listen with caution. Remember, it's okay to take a break or skip the episode if needed. Hi, guys. Welcome back to Cheers. On today's episode, I found this random girl, and I thought, Let's just interview her and see how it goes. Just kidding.

What a.

Perfect guest. I brought the Emily Kaiser onto my podcast for episode number two. She just so happens to be my best friend as well. Hi. Besties. Welcome to the podcast.

Thanks.

Boo. You're so cute. I'm so excited. I can tell you're nervous. I'm a.

Little nervous. I'm with the new queen of podcasting. Watch out.

I'm honored. Okay, first we need to cheer. Today, we are actually not drinking wine. We're drinking Simply Lemonades because those are M's favorite. You have... Wait, you got to sip it and then do it. Okay, true. I have some more.

I also added in a little...

She always says it comes from the throat, which it really does. And you say it the same every time. It's truly a gift. Thanks. People will even stop us in public and say that they follow both of us or one or the other, and they'll talk to you about that.

It's the first thing that they say. They'll be like, Emily, yummy. I'm like, Yes, yummy is United.

Well, you know it's an honor, too, when they think it's a TikTok sound because it's the same every single time. That's truly, you're gifted.

It's a sound. I would like TikTok to buy it and have it be a sound on TikTok. At TikTok? At TikTok. Get your shit together. Let's make sound effects.

Okay, so first, for those that live under a rock and don't know who my best friend Emily is, give yourself a short little intro of yourself.

Okay. I never know what to say for these. My name is Emily Kaiser. I'm 24. I do TikTok and Instagram. That's pretty much what I do for social media. I started social media to... Well, I mean, I, of course, posted my pedicures back in middle school. I've been on the gram for a while, but I started doing- You got the free feet pitch. Yeah, I really did get free feet. I was like, Look at my flowers with gems on my toes. Now I'd be like, It's so creepy. I shouldn't even get paid for that.

Iconic.

Anyways, I've been doing social media for a little over two years now, just a little bit over two years. But that's how Avery and I met. And it's so fun that we're best friends and it's both of our jobs.

I basically discovered Emily back in the day. I remember I followed her and she had 1,500 followers.

What was the first TikTok you saw on mine?

I think it was a cleaning video or a hair tutorial. I remember being like, Holy shit, her hair is amazing. I remember being like, Dang, she's so Mormon. But then I had discovered that she had just recently left the church.

I'd.

Be like, Damn it. Because I knew that they lived in Utah. I remember she had 1,500 followers. I did a lot of nursing stuff back then. I think I had a platform of 50K or something. Then in the blink of an eye, I was like, Oh, this bitch for sure is about to be huge. I love you. You just literally skyrocketed it. I'm the biggest girl's girl. Even though I didn't know you on a personal level, I was like, I could tell because I knew how much work went into social media, you would literally post five to six times every day and everything. It wasn't just a chill OOTD. It was a full reset, cleaning video, restocking errands. I was like, The amount of time this bitch takes to edit, what am I doing wrong to not be able to knock shit out.

This? Back when my toddler took.

Two plus naps a day. No, I was just genuinely so impressed. And then I remember you had talked about... We had sent DMs back and forth, they were calming on you to the videos. And then I remember you had said that you were moving back to Arizona, and I was like, Oh, bitch, you're mine. You were like, Fuck yes. We're hanging out. And then that was that.

You took.

Me under your wing. Yeah.

You were.

Like, Hi. It was so fun. Hi, how are you? And her husband, braided, is good friends with David. They're hanging out all the time. And then trig and Stevie are about the same age. So it's just so nice that we have the same job. Our husbands are good friends. Our families all hang out all the time. And it's so funny because people are always like, It's such a staged friendship, like for views or clout or whatever. And I'm like, No, it's not.

I just actually can't believe. I mean, we've had so many conversations about this where we just laugh about it because we're like, I can't believe how many comments I'll get are people who are genuinely like, Are you an Avery Actually friends? And I'm like, Is that a thing? Do people fake wasting their time on people for social media, making fake... I just don't understand that. I would rather have two good friends, and one of them just happens to have the same job as me, and we lift each other up than just have a friend just to show them on.

Social media. And I also, unless we're traveling together, a lot of the times that we hang out, we're not even recording content or taking photos or posting on social media, so people don't even realize how we're together. But it's just, it is like your group... Can I talk? Am I okay? Can you? Your circle around you on social media just shrinks smaller and smaller and smaller because you just become more guarded as you become a bigger public person. And when I met you, not when I met you, but when we really started getting close, that was probably one of the most difficult times I ever had my entire life with friendships, as you know. And I just lost so many people while my platform was also growing really big. And so I just felt really alone and isolated. And I truly think you saved me from a lot of really bad destruction. And I think the people in my life that are closest to me, especially David, know I was not well mentally.

Well, how can you be when you're going through something.

Like that? Yeah, it was horrible. I just remember being like, you were the first genuine human being that I had ever met that just truly wanted the best for me. And that was my biggest cheerleader and wanted to watch me thrive. I've always been like that with you. And it's a genuine thing. It's not like, Oh, yeah, good for you, girl. It's like, no, in my heart. I just want to watch you be the most successful as possible and vice versa.

And that's such a freeing thing in social media because you'll agree, that sometimes is a reason why friendships are hard in social media is because it turns into such a competition where it's like, Why is this a competition? There's enough room for everyone to grow and thrive in a community where there's millions of people watching. Why can we not just lift each other up? And I feel like that's always what we've done for each other. And like you said, it's so genuine. I genuinely always want what's best for you. Your podcast, everything. I'm like, It's going to grow. It's going to thrive. We're manifesting. I'm falling in love with her all over again. Sorry, rated R. I'm dead.

It's a podcast. It always confuses me when people turn into a competition, too, because they're just making their own lives harder, where, like you said, there's always... Everyone can do a reset video or an Aaron video, and you're always the first to come and encourage so many other creators and things where you were the first person I ever saw do a Sunday reset or an Aaron video. I remember in the beginning when I first started doing stuff like that, I would literally call it Emily-style Aaron. I don't know if you remember that. I love you. But back in the day. I do remember. Because I was like... And of course, I'm sure a million other people do Aaron videos, but that was the type of content that stuck with me and that I enjoyed watching. And I feel like it should be like that in all forms. I'm sure a billion people post an OOTD every day. Oh, for sure. But as creators, we're going to be like, She used the same song as me. It's just so catty.

Well, at the end of the day, we've talked about this. When I started social media, I was so naive to thinking, even though 100 %, we all get inspo from other people of like, Oh, I love the way that they edit. I want to learn to edit like that. And there's nothing wrong with that. But for some reason in my head, really thought like, Oh, I'm doing something so different, when at the end of the day, I'm not. I'm doing what I enjoy watching, which is why I feel like you attract the people in the content that you enjoy watching. And there's really no point ever making it a competition because it's like, we're all doing... At the end of the day, that's literally TikTok. We're all doing the same stuff, but in a different way and putting our own personality and our own whatever into it. And that's how you attract the people who enjoy that. And then if they don't, they don't. But that's how everyone makes it different in their own way, and that's what's fun about it. I could watch 20 different Aaron videos, and I'm like, Oh, my gosh. I love that we're all doing a similar thing, a mundane thing, whether you want to call them Aarons or not.

But we're all putting our own twist on it to make it fun, and that's so fun. Yeah.

And we also make videos that we genuinely enjoy making, even though it's quote work, which we always say very lightly, but you love cleaning. You love doing your Sunday resets. You love going out with trig or alone just to have some alone time and run errands. For sure. And for me, and you're the same where it feels like you're bringing your friends along.

With you when you're- Literally.

Like a FaceTime. Yeah, like a FaceTime. It's so fun. Your besties. But I want you to talk about how you got into social media because I love that story.

Okay, so basically all the way back, it's fun to talk about because I don't feel like I've ever sat and fully talked about it other than with my best friends. But basically, I was a new mom. I had scrolled on TikTok, but I was genuinely that person that was like, I'm never going to download TikTok, because at the time, TikTok was just dances and things like that. There's nothing wrong with that. I literally grew up dancing, but I just knew that I would and scroll on the app. So I was like, I'm not downloading it. So all during quarantine, I didn't download it. And then I think at the very, very end of quarantine, I did download it. And I actually, I don't know if it's still there. My very first TikTok that I ever posted was a video of Wesley. And it was to thelike, I think it was to the, I always feel like somebody's watching me. And it was Wesley laying on the floor and he was glaring at me. And I thought it was the funny thing. I was like, This bitch is going to go viral. It got 20 views.

I'm dead. Anyways, after that, I think I deleted TikTok for a while. I got pregnant. I had trig. So many life things happened between that. And then I got back on TikTok. And when I was scrolling on my For You page, I saw my friend Matt O'Gravier literally were both obsessed with her. Oh, she's the best. And she's just the chillest person. Me and braided knew her in real life and love her, and so it was so crazy. I was seeing her on my For You page. I was like, What the hell, Mattta? She was making TikToks and killing it. That was her job. And I was like, That's so inspiring to see another mom just living her life, but just recording it freely. And people love watching that. And I always had an interest in social media. My step-brother actually made a joke to me one time. I was like, I think I want to do social media someday. And he was like, Emily, your life is way too boring. Nobody's going to watch that. And we laughed at that now because we're like, It's the mundane stuff that we love watching on social media.

But anyways, I had trig. I was obviously going through it. Most moms know postpartum. I didn't have postpartum depression, but I definitely had the post-baby blues and was struggling with breastfeeding and just figuring out new mom life. Being a first time mom is really fucking hard. And I was also struggling with being out of my routine because if you follow me, I'm a very routine person. My days are repetitive, and I like it that way. And I was very out of it. I wasn't getting ready. I was just sad. I was confused, didn't know what my new daily was going to look like, so I started recording it on TikTok. And I was inspired by so many creators to do cleaning videos and blogs and just start sharing my everyday life. And I was really awkward. I didn't talk a lot, and I would do O-T-Ds. But that's how I got started, was I just wanted to get out of my blues and find a routine and share it with people. And then in return, I feel like it inspired moms and other people to find their.

Routines again. Yeah. And I love that you, because you've talked about this to me before, that you just needed to get out of the house. And even though not all of your errands are necessarily errands, they might just be getting gas, or going to get a Dr. Pepper, or going to Target. It gave you something to do and get out of the house with your newborn, which any mom knows how important that is because it's so easy just to shelter yourself inside your house all day.

All night. Because it's.

Scary to leave. Yes. Yeah, it's.

So hard. Yeah, and that's my biggest advice that I always gave moms, especially when I was starting on TikTok and I was a new mom, it was like, Leave the house every single day. My first mom run with trig, which was so fucking scary for me, was going to the Starbucks drive-through. And he was in the back and I was like, What if he starts crying? What if I have to breastfeed? What if my tits start leaking? I was just so stressed, but that's how Aaron's started for me. And that's why I always say, quote unquote, Aaron's, is because it's either getting gas or a Starbucks or going and walking around Target and literally just frolicking in there. I just needed to leave the house every day. And it gets less scary the more you do it.

And then you also going through a huge transition with motherhood, you guys also had made the decision around that time to leave the Mormon Church, which is another huge life change where you're like, Okay, what's my identity?

Isolating, for sure. Yeah. So talk about how that decision came about.

Yeah, so I've talked about this a lot, but basically got pregnant with trig. Braided and I had decided at that point. Motherhood puts a lot of things into perspective. So I was like, Do I want to teach my kid all of these things? Do I really understand everything that I'm preaching? Basically. And we came to the decision that we wanted to leave the church.

And I think for those that don't know, Emily did not grow up Mormon. Oh, yeah, no. Her family is not LDS. You converted in high school.

Yeah, I converted at 17.

And then you met braided really young.

Yeah, and braided, his family is Mormon. He went on a mission. But he, luckily, my husband was always one foot in, one foot out, but I wasn't. I was very in it. So I think, braided put on that front because he knew it would make me happy. But at the end of the day, we both... It ended up very much working out for the best, because by the time we decided to leave, we were very much on the same page. But when I got into social media, I was going through that transition, like Avery said, and that definitely also showed in my videos because I was very much still trying to figure out my style and who I was. And that's hard. When you're 20, how old was I? When you're 21, and you're a new mom, you're married, you're going through a faith transition. It's just like, literally, who the fuck am I?

Yeah, that's a lot. It's really hard. And it's funny because I know it was easy for people to assume that you dragged braided away from the church when really it was opposite, and he didn't drag you away. It was just you more came into yourself and your beliefs. But you were the one that was like, You have to read your scriptures, or we can't.

Stay married together. Yeah, Avery gets all the tea. We always talk to David and Avery about everything, and we just look back and laugh at it now. But I was very much like that. I was so into it that if braided wasn't wearing his garments, I was literally the garment police. I was like, Where are your garments? Where are your garments? Why are you not wearing your garments? Because I was wearing them religiously.

Not the.

Garment police. No, literally, I was the garment police. And he was like, They're old. They're ratted up from my mission. And I was like, Fine, I'll buy you new ones. So I went to Desiree, spent $170 that we literally didn't have, and was like, Here's all your garments. And then a week later, after they're open and used and we can't return them, we literally decide to leave the church.

I'm crying. And I'm like, Fuck.

Can I get a refund?

You're like, Fuck. Wait, where do you buy garments?

It's called Desiree Industries. And it's basically an LDS, like a store. Is it.

Like an in-person store? Not everyone that's around me is a previous Mormon.

Person, so they have to tell you about these things. We're all like, Hello? Can't believe you don't know about this.

I don't think people realize, too, because I grew up in California in Central Coast. Southern California, there's a lot of people that are LDS because of the San Diego temple. But where I grew up, that is nothing. And so until my family moved me to Arizona, like I told Emily, I was like, I didn't even know what that was. When I heard the term Mormon, I was like, What is that? I thought it was like a club or something. I'm like, Am I not cool?

You're like, Can I join?

But it's funny to me because it's just a whole different world, and we're literally one state over.

Yeah, and now we're best friends. Now we're.

Best friends. You're stuck with me. Crazy. Okay, so at what point did it click for you like, Oh, I could make TikTok my career.

So I vividly remember we were on... I was doing it. And I'm just one of those people where I'm very headstrong. If I start something, I'm going to do it. And so I feel like that's why I never gave up on TikTok. It wasn't for the money. It wasn't for a career. I wasn't like, I'm going to do it until I make this much money or whatever. It was just like, If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. If I'm going to spend the time doing it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to try to do as well as I can and grow. And for me, the editing was fun, things like that. So I just kept doing it. I knew that I could make money, but I remember that we were on a family walk in Provo, it was where we lived. And I had gotten an email, because at that time, I hadn't had our manager's email. My bio was just mine. So I would get all the spam emails and whatever. And it was from a company that I knew very well. And they were like, Hey, we'll pay you $400 to promote our skincare line.

And I was like, Prady. Oh, my gosh. Because my husband was always working three jobs when we were first married, when we were dating. And so I was like, Oh, my gosh, I'm going to make money. $400 was a lot. I was like, Damn, take me to Target. Take me. Cover the formula.

Even when you get PR in the beginning-.

Yeah, it's insane.

-you get the free stuff in the beginning, still to this day, everyone around me can attest. I'm always showing, even on social media, the stuff that brands give me just because I'm still so genuinely appreciative of it.

As we should be.

It's insane. Yeah, I'm like, You don't have to send us this. You're doing it out of choice because you see I like their product and that comes out of their pocket. But it's just, yeah. So even $50 for an ad back in the day, I was shitting my.

Pants over. It's the weirdest feeling. Yeah. So that was my first deal, was I made $400 promoting a skincare line. And then after that, I just kept getting deals. They weren't super consistent, but it was enough that I could help with bills and things like that. And it was really exciting. And I was stoked about it. And then it just went up from there. As my following grew and as my platform grew, now I'm able to provide for my family. You know what that's like.

And you signed with Smith & St. Because we have the same management company, just different teams. Yeah, we love them. We love them. They're incredible, which is why we're able to... Which is why we go on pretty much all our brand trips together is because we have the same... We work for the same company. But they signed you.

At $75,000, I think? Yeah. I remember that my goal was I was like, Okay, because everyone I followed, I was like, They have managers. I really want to try to do this. But it is hard. Anybody can attest that does social media. No matter how busy you are, it can be hard to manage the emails. Then also at the time, braided was working still multiple jobs, so he was always gone. And so I was home trying to edit, trying to take care of a new baby, doing everything. So I was like, Okay, my goal was by the time I hit 100K, I really want to have a management. And I even reached out to a manager, a very well-known management. It was like, Hi, I'm Emily Kaiser. I have 50,000 followers on TikTok, 10,000 followers on Instagram. I'd love to work with you. And they were like, Hey, we don't work with influencers until they have, I think it was 100,000 followers on TikTok. And I was like, Okay, I'm going to get to 100,000. I got it. That was why it was my goal. I was like, I'm going to get to 100,000 followers and they're going to sign me.

I'm going to do it. And then right at 75K, Smith and St reached out to me, and it's like, literally, no regrets.

It.

Was meant to.

Be, for sure. It's a life-changing thing.

And signing with the right management is life-changing.

Because you're so... I literally had a meeting with them today, and my team was like, You have to have the right team behind you because it's not just deals and ads and trips. You have this personal, intimate connection with them because you talk about the personal things and they hate that you can't- Everything. -and just everything. And then also the money that goes into it. They're like our therapists. Yeah, they literally are our therapists. So speaking on that subject, I think, and we're not going to talk about details or numbers or anything, but.

Near.

Details. That gets me to the subject of people not understanding the money behind what influencers make and our brand deals like to know at Amazon, because braided is a stay-at-home dad. Yeah. So you're the only income for your family, which I don't think a lot of people realize.

Yeah.

Can you talk about how you guys got that decision where braided stopped working?

So it was... It was actually a hard decision. I think a big reason it was a hard decision was because, honestly, I don't even know how to phrase this, I just never planned to work. And I think a lot of that goes into being Mormon. I always saw my role as being a mom, being a stay-at-home mom. Even when Brayne and I dated, we always were like, Hey, I have a work ethic, but I want to be a mom. I would like to not work if that's okay, but if I have to work and we need help providing, I will always work. Anyways, we got married. I had trig, was a stay-at-home mom, started doing TikTok. And it can happen just really fast. So that's just what happened. It was like my husband went from working three jobs to all of a sudden I'm making money. And at first it was just like, A little help here, a little help there. Like, Oh, Em, take a trip to Target. Treat yourself. And I was like, Slay. Or I didn't have to worry about buying swig every day. But then it turned into like, Oh, shit.

I can pay the bills. And like, Oh, wait, now I'm making more than my husband is making. At a company he's been working on for five years now, something he's put his heart and soul into. And so it was just insane, mind-blowing. We were just like, Literally what? So we moved to Arizona not for social media, not for anything. It had nothing to do with my job. It was, braided got a job opportunity in sales, and we were like, Okay, this is amazing. He's going to make really great money. We're going to move to Arizona. We always planned to move to Arizona. He ended up starting the job. It just wasn't what it was cracked out to be. There was a lot of details that were left out that weren't communicated. Plus, we had just made a full move. And so we were like, Okay, what do we do? So, braided started to look for jobs, and he still did his detailing. He had it running in Utah. It was doing great. He was going to get ready to start it here in Arizona as well. And then we just sat down and we had the con...

Which this is such a privilege. But we were like, Hey, at the end of the day, we're to a point now where so luckily I am making enough money that I can provide for the family. And if you want to work by all means, that's always helpful. There's nothing wrong with us both working. But we were just at that point, we were like, Okay, if I'm working full-time providing, and even though I think some people see social media as silly little videos, it is time-consuming. It's a privilege, but it's time-consuming. I can't be 100 % present all the time. It's quite literally impossible to be 100 % present and then also provide for my family. It's just not possible. And we were like, Either we hire a nanny to come, which is hard because social media is very inconsistent. Your schedule is inconsistent. Other than meetings, the content's inconsistent. You don't know. You're also just.

Working all day every day. So unless you want a nanny full-time, it's either that or you're half-present with your children.

Yeah. And so we came to that decision where I was like, It makes more sense financially and also just for our son, for us to both be at home. And I literally feel so lucky every day because my husband's home, and he's taking over roles that we both do, but he's taking over a little bit more of the roles that I was doing before. But then we both get to be present with our child. And if I have to work, I go in the other room, I get on a meeting, I would ever, but then I get to be with my son the rest of the day, and that's such a special thing. I'm just so grateful for social media. I never, ever would have thought that it would change our life.

The way that it did. And you guys are such amazing parents. Thank you. And you guys are such amazing parents. Thank you. Braided is a stellar dad. And I think that's why him and David get along so well because they're the most present fathers I know in my life. So good. Out of everyone I know, that's a dad, they are both so present, and they take it so seriously.

Oh, they love... You can tell that they genuinely love being dads.

And it's not a show for social media. This is just genuinely how they are. David and I talked about that going back to what you said about the time that goes into social media. We talked about that on his episode, where he was like, When people give me shit about you doing social media and say, 'Oh, she left her career as a nurse to make TikToks and take selfies, ' David has the same response, and he's like, She has never worked more or harder in her entire life. We, and again, this is not a complaint. We are very privileged and lucky to.

Do this. No, it's not the hardest job in the world. I think your job as a nurse was harder.

Yes, but the time behind it is, as a nurse working full-time, I worked my three shifts, and then I had four days off a week, where I'm not doing anything. I'm home present with my kids. It's one of those things where you do have to keep up with the algorithm on TikTok. You have to consistently post seven days a week. We post about three times a day, seven days a week. So that's recording, editing, posting three times a day, minimum three times a day, and then our traveling, and then we have our meetings, and then just everything else in between, which again, coming from where I came from, and you're very in tune with reality, it's not a complaint. I just feel like people don't see them behind the scenes, so I don't think they realize the money that goes into it because they don't understand the time that goes into it.

Yeah. And I think it's so amazing that my sister is a nurse, you're a nurse. I think it's so amazing that you have that perspective under your belt because I think that's the biggest thing people say is they're like, It's not a real job. People will... I'll still get comments all the time that are like, Job, almost like, Mocking me. Or when.

You talked about being a working mom, and so many people in your comments were just nasty.

But what's funny is when I was still fully providing for my family, and I called myself a stay-at-home mom, people were pissed. And they were like, You're not a stay-at-home mom. You don't do the roles of a stay-at-home mom. You need to be transparent that you're making money, that you're providing for your family because stay-at-home moms don't do that. And I said, Okay, I'm a working mom. No, but you're not a working mom because you don't know the energy and the sacrifice. And I'm like, I know. I am privileged. My job is not the same as going and working a nine to five, or being a nurse, or being a doctor. It's not the same. But what do you want me to be then? What am I? A half working, half stay at home mom? Literally, what am I?

Also, your husband stays home. You are the full provider for your family. Whether people agree with the way you get money, or how you get money, or what you do for your career, which is honestly no one's business, and they just shouldn't care, I'm like, Please block me if you have an issue. But they can't argue with the fact that you are the sole provider, the only provider for your family.

One thing people say it's not a job. I'm like, Okay, we can argue. You can argue logistics all day long. We said, I'm never going to get on and be like, This is the hardest job. No. There are so many privileges that come with it. We talk about this all the time. But I pay taxes. I provide for my... In the definition of what is a job, it's a job. It's not the normal job. It hasn't been for a long time, but it is a job. It's an industry, and a lot of people do it, and it's a very normal thing in this day. So.

And I also think it's just you just have to take advantage while you can. And that's at the point where I got where I left my previous career for this because you have to take advantage while you're hot, not physically, but while you're physically growing.

You have to take advantage while.

You're sexy. Yeah, while you're sexy. But while the kettle is hot and you're consistently growing on social media, you have to take advantage and jump on the opportunity, or else it'll come and go so fast. And you have to have the time to be able to consistently post.

Yeah. And I always say, I'm like, Luckily, I had the privilege of time. I think that that's something that plays so much into it becoming my career was I was already a state. I already had the privilege of be... That is a privilege that I was able to stay at home. And so that's a big reason I had so much time to edit and make content and push my platform, which I'll always be grateful for that because if I was working full-time, I don't know if it would have been the same. I wouldn't have had... I always props to you because you have always been providing for your family and working hard.

But you also, even though you stayed home with trig before you started social media, you're very much in tune.

With the world of what's going on. Yeah, I still worked. I still worked.

You're also so appreciative. Thank you. Speaking of nasty comments- Oh, God. Oh, God. We don't have to talk about specifics just because- I don't know.

What you're talking about.

Yeah, it's funny because Emily and I literally send each other voice memos a hundred times a day or screenshots.

But we're not real friends. But we're.

Not real friends. It's all for sure. But we just sometimes get like, eating into for quite literally the smallest things. Oh, yeah. So what's your hot take on your hate comments, on what you think about them, how you get past it, all of the above?

I mean, at the end of the day, I think that if you talk to anyone who's been in social media for a really long time, they all agree. It's just a part of it. At the end of the day, you're posting your life on the internet, you're open to criticism, especially on a platform like TikTok where you're hitting the For You page every single day, you have no idea who's seeing your videos, it's just going to happen. And I think that obviously hate hurts, and you know that. I've only been on social media for about two years. It's still new to me. I was not used to getting hate like that and having every single thing torn up about me from your body to the way you look to your marriage to what mom you are, what sister you are. People will find anything to hate about. And I think that's something that I never expected. I was just like, Holy shit. It's a mental toll for sure. But I guess my hot take is I just always try to remember that I know who I am and the people who love me and actually know me know who I am, and then hopefully the people who genuinely love me who follow me know who I am.

And that's all that matters. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. We are such a small dot on this earth. Truly. Getting a hate comment just really doesn't matter. And I think that I always, like you were saying, always try to stay in tune with myself and stay in check with myself as long as I know that I'm a good person, I'm in tune with reality. I don't feel like I've become out of touch with who I am. That's what matters to me, and that I'm a good mom, a good wife, a good friend. And obviously, there's a difference between constructive criticism where people are like, Hey, maybe don't say that, or I like it when you do this, or whatever. And you're like, Okay. I've gotten hate comments before or read things where I'm like, Okay, I'm in tune with myself enough that that's not 100 % wrong, or I could work on that. But when it's just nasty, literally body shaming, like, My child has been bullied, just things like that where I'm just like, My husband's been bullied, where I'm the sweetest man on Earth who could literally do nothing.

I'm just like, Now you're just being cruel and to those people, I'm just like, I don't know, I just wish you more happiness because there's got to be something going on that I just could never. I could never be that nasty to a person that I.

Don't know. Yeah. And we talked about this at the event that we were in L. A. With some other influencers where I feel like my Instagram is a very nice, positive place because on Instagram, it's not really as common to go on the Explore page and scroll. Whereas, like you said, on TikTok, people are always on the for you page. So our.

Videos - You can't control.

The hate. No, our videos pop up to people that don't even follow us, and they'll leave these comments. I'm like, If what I post bothers you, I'm like, Please block me, or I'll just do it for you. Please block me. But then it really gets me when they make another account after I block them to leave the same type of comment, or in a different wording. I'm like, I know it's you. I know it's you. Get off my page.

Yeah. It's something that will never stop. I think that's something that you always have to come back to is just like, It's not going to stop. So you just got to keep vibing. Keep vibing. That's what I say. Keep vibing. Just keep vibing.

I want to talk about the fact that you got a labial plastic.

Let's talk about it. I ain't scared.

The reason I want to talk about it is because I feel like we were very open about getting our boobs done. Always. And Botox or filler or whatever, and we just are very big advocates on doing what makes us feel good and happy. For sure. And you were really young when you got this done, so talk about that a little bit.

Okay, so, well, let's talk down there. Yeah, let's talk.

About what's under these genes.

I've actually talked about it a lot, and I've gotten hate for talking about it because people are like, That's disgusting. And I'm like, Well, I think it's even grosser that you're shaming women for their insecurities. And I talk about it because I'm not telling young girls or people who follow me, Go get your labias chopped. I'm telling them, if it is something that is uncomfortable for you, you're struggling with your confidence, it takes away from your everyday life, for sure, go get it checked out. Why not? There's literally nothing wrong with that. I didn't get a laboplasty because I was like, I want a pretty vagina with no lips. And there are people who do that, which you do you. But even with my doctor I met with, she was like, I will not get you a laboplasty if you're just doing it for looks. But she knew I wasn't. I had extra... I actually have never talked about this fully. I had also extra skin around my vagina, a lot of extra skin. I actually didn't know I had because I wasn't taking a mirror down there daily. But I knew that my vagina looked different than other girls, which every vagina is different.

But there's a difference between just a different vagina and something that's uncomfortable can be unhygienic, things like that. And I grew up dancing. So I saw a lot of vaginas in my time. And I was like, Mine does not look like hers. Mine is uncomfortable in a leotard. It's uncomfortable in my underwear. I could only wear specific underwear because it was the only thing that felt like it held me in. And it was just something that I was always self-conscious about. And so finally, when I was 17, I think I Googled vaginas. What does a normal vagina look like? Vaginas. We've all done it. And I saw, I read this whole thing, and it was... I think I also watched YouTube series about it. And then that's how I found out about labial plastic. I didn't even know that that was an option. And so I was like, Oh, shit. I've always been very open with my parents. So I went to my mom and was like, Hey-.

Pam, we love you, Pam.

We love Pam. Pam. Pammy. Pamela. I went to Pam, and I was like, Hey, I know you've probably seen my badge before because we're cool like that. But I'm just not comfortable with it. It went down to more than looks. Like I said, it was the underwear I wore. When I rode a bike, it was uncomfortable. I was scared to have sex because I was like, What if it hurts? What if they get inflamed? Your labias are free-flowing when you're having sex. It's also a big part of clitoral stimulation is your labias play a part in that.

So like- Yeah, which we need that in our lives, okay?

So anyways, my mom was like, Slay, let's go to a doctor. So she took me to a doctor, and she took one look down there and was like, Hey, I totally see what you're talking about. I think you're a great candidate for a laboplasty. Also, she was like, I just want to let you know I can tell that there's also a lot of extra skin around your vagina. And she's like, That concerns me for childbirth, having sex because I hadn't had sex. And she also was like, In all transparency, I can tell it's unhygienic because when you're wiping with toilet paper or even wipes, no matter how hygienic you are, if you have extra skin, things are going to get stuck in there. So she was like, You're a great candidate. And honestly, which this is rare, she was like, I think that your insurance would probably cover it because to me, this is medically necessary. And my insurance did, slay. And I got a laboposte and.

- I'm not sure of it.

-do not regret it one bit. Recovery was not hard, but I definitely wasn't using my my for a couple of weeks. I was using a a Peri down there. There. Itry do not regret. Best thing I ever did, hygiene wise, just comfort wise. I don't regret it one bit.

And honestly, it's like-.

That's the story of my.

My Like Em said, said, I the biggest. If you're insecure about something or something bothers you or you do something that makes you feel better about yourself, I'm like, Fucking.

Do.

It.

Go, you. Always. Yeah. And I'll always be transparent. So I feel like people were like, Why would you talk about that on social media? I'm like, Why wouldn't I? I don't care if a stranger knows that I got a a lab-like, why does I don't care. Why does it have to be a secret?

We also don't have to talk about the fact that we get our our boobes done. Then you obviously can't see someone's vagina.

Yeah, the vagina is different, but-.

If you knew or or that my boob are different, I didn't talk about it, I would be a fucking liar and be canceled. So obviously no one's seeing your labia every day on TikTok.

But we also just are very open open people, I'll talk about anything, which can hurt you, but it also can.

Help you. It can hurt you, but I also feel like we find way more success rather than hate because of the the and also just being the same people that we are on social media, which people tell us all the.

Time when they they recognize Yeah, they're always like, Wait, I'm shocked. You're actually the same same in You're like, Yes. You're like, I hope people are like that because that's scary that people will act completely completely people on the Internet. Oh, for sure. And it's different when it's a confidence thing. You're always going to be more confident talking to your phone behind a camera.

Well, when we first started, we were awkward. For sure. Because it's just like you weren't used to doing get ready with with or cleaning on on camera, a mom on camera. It's just different. And then you just just with the flow. And you and I are both the same where, like you said, in the beginning of your career, you would do more ASMR. You weren't really talking. And then you really blew up and saw so much more.

Success when you were.

Doing more blog-style stuff because people love your personality.

Yeah, and even now, you know Megan. My sister, Megan's fucking unhinged. She's honestly like Avery. She's even more unhinged than I am.

Well, she's a nurse, so that should tell you. All the.

Nurses are crazy. Yeah, she's a badass. And Megan always, all even even be recording an Aaron's video. And Megan's like, Why the fuck are you not recording the things you say behind the scenes? She's like, You actually say some funny shit, but you don't record it. And I'm like, Oh, so I'm not funny?

M is one of the funniest people I know, truly. She's hilarious. Thank you.

I'm like my own type of funny. I just laugh at my own jokes and say shit wrong all the time, but I'm always so close.

Close. Will think she's saying a common phrase. I don't know. And it's just so wrong, but she's so confident in it being right.

Right. And I just love her for Either the pronunciation is is or the word is just completely wrong, or there's a word just missing. You guys know that if you follow me on TikTok. I would say.

Two times a week, she is some major typo on her TikTok video.

Which I love. Love. And probably my ADHD.

I screenshot it and send it to her all the time because I'm like, You were.

So close. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, Wait, I didn't even realize because I'm just typing so fast. She's like, Why are you.

Sending this to me? I'm like, Look at your POV that you put on the screen.

It's wrong. Wrong. And not even an air of laziness. Usually, it's just literally like I read it. I'm like, Makes sense. Sense. And then people are like, What the fuck? I just had to read this 500 times. It doesn't make sense. And then I slow down. I'm like, outfit to Chick-fil-A. And I'm like-.

You're like, That doesn't make sense.

-interesting. Sorry, guys.

Okay, so going back to your vagina, you were a virgin when you got married. Married.

Going back to what people want to hear You were a virgin when you got married. Yes.

Because you were Mormon.

A virgin.

Now, do you regret that?

Okay, so I regret not having sex with my husband sooner. I don't regret not having sex with random random sooner because I probably would have fucked guys in my high school that now I'm like, Oh, no. I'm glad I didn't do that.

I'm more cement.

Cement Yeah, with my husband, yes. I think we regret not doing it because obviously your passion is still so hot when you're married. But when we were dating, that was such a time to... Braided and I knew we loved each other, and we knew it was more than just a hangout. We knew we wanted to get married very early on. So there's that part of of that's like, I do wish that we would have started discovering that part of our relationship sooner, because I think that that is something that a lot of people that are deep in religion or wait until they're married can agree upon of sex is not an easy thing, and it's a hard thing to figure out with a partner sometimes. Your chemistry can be there. The sexual tension is there. Everything's there. The sex is great, but you're having to figure out what positions you like, what feels good. They're figuring out things that they've never done before. It's something that takes a lot of time to figure out. And now, I feel like we're in an amazing spot. But when we were first married, I was like, What the fuck are we doing?

So yeah, I do regret waiting because I'm like, I wish that we would have just fucked sooner. We would have had all this shit figured out. Just going feral while.

We dated. How long were you dating before you got married?

We dated for nine months, months, got and then we were engaged for six. So we were together for over a year. Yeah.

Dang. How soon after you were married did you get pregnant?

About a year. A little under a year. Oh, that's pretty good. Because our anniversary is November ninth, and we got pregnant, I think, in October.

That's a record, though, for people.

That are LDS. Yeah, some get pregnant sooner.

Immediately, they're pregnant. Yeah. Dang. Yeah. And I mean, I already know this answer, but how many more kids are we thinking?

There was a period where I was like, I'm one and done because being a mom is fucking hard. I love being a mom. But also, almost trig is so perfect that sometimes I'm just like, I don't want to have another because I'm so content.

With.

Trig. I love him so much.

It's also hard to imagine loving another child.

Yeah, it's hard to imagine that love multiplying, even though we know it does. But I think we're done at two. Sometimes, braided says three. We used to say four, four, which I say, say, no. But probably two.

It's also hard, too, because when you could imagine having all these kids, that was a time where you stayed home with.

With Life was different. Different.

Weren't working. You weren't traveling like you are now. As life evolves, it puts things into perspective. And I was the kind kind I wasn't Mormon at all, but I was so obsessed with kids, which is why I worked with kids even as a nurse. I was like, I want six children. I literally told that to David. Oh, my God.

Can you imagine you and David with.

Six kids? No, I literally can't. Sometimes I'm.

Just drowning. Three Stevies and three Ziggies? Ziggies?

Well, Do you fucking wild? Oh, my God. Well- Your.

House could fit six kids.

It would fit six six kids. But I'm trying to downsize my house at the moment. I can't keep up with cleaning it. But Ziggie was off for the last two weeks for fall break, and today was his first day back. I love my child, but I was so happy to send him to school today.

Yeah, and I think that's relatable.

Yes, because it's just... It also, when you get out numbered, it's just a lot.

Yeah. It's a lot. Which you and David are the perfect example of... I feel like becoming best friends with you and David is literally the reason reason I was finally like, Yeah, two is a good number. Braided was was So we said we wanted four, then I was like, I think I might be one and done. And then we were like, Okay, just kidding, maybe three. And braided was like, I just like, if... He's like, He really wants a little girl. And I don't want anybody to spin this and be like, like, Are braided and are not happy of having a boy. No, we always wanted a boy first. Anybody who knows this can attest to that. We always wanted a boy first. Trig's name was planned literally since we met. But, of course, we would love a little girl. That's ideal. You're like, I want one of each. That's so fun. So now we're like, We really want a little girl. But honestly, I could see myself just being a boy mom. But anyways, braided was always like, Okay, if we have another boy, I really want to try for for another or a girl.

And I'm like, That's where you get in messy water, because then you just keep trying for one gender. And then next thing you know, you have five kids. And I'm just like, No. I'm happy with whatever, but I'm done at two.

And it was so cute because I think it was was like, I don't a month or two ago, I was over over and we were talking talking I convinced them to do a surprise gender for their next kid. Oh, yeah, for sure. So she's not allowed to find out the gender. I'm so excited. But I was showing braided my C-section video with Stevie, not my guts or anything, but how- I'm.

Like, no, you did show that.

Oh, did I? No, I'm kidding.

I'm fucking.

With you. I'm like, Here's my organs. Because I was talking about why a surprised gender was so special. And so I was like, like, watch my birth video. And braided had tears.

Streaming down his face. Yeah, this man was crying.

When David told me, It's a girl. It's a girl. And he was like- I was so cute. -all right, we're we're finding out the gender. And he's like, Babe, I just want a girl so bad. It was just.

So cute. Braided is built to be a girl dad, but we both always say too, we're like, Just having a boy is so fun. And I feel like having a boy first is so fun.

Oh, I was the same. I wanted Diggy to be a boy so bad. And so I found out his gender during the early blood test, and he had eight weeks or something, nine weeks. And I was so happy it was a boy. But when I was pregnant with Stevie, the reason I did a a surprise which I've told you before, because I was like, literally, either way- I'm happy. -ziggy gets a brother, and they're literally best friends for life. Life. And gets this little boy that's just as hyper as him and into boy sports and all these things. But I was like, But if I get a girl at something different, which him and Stevie are still very close and play all the time, but but it was either way, it was going to be amazing. Amazing. And how it'll be for you. The jelly cat collection in your house is going to be fucking crazy when you have another child.

I always joke that my kids are going to come home with boyfriends or girlfriends or whatever, and they're going to be like, Hey. My mom and dad are super chill, love them. My mom does record silly videos, but also if you see a hundred eyes just staring at you when you walk in my room, my mom's obsessed with these things called jelly cat. That's literally going to be like, I'm going to have them.

On display. And they're like, And we know every single name.

Oh, yeah? I'm going to give each person a tour.

Yeah. So here's a tour.

Here's Buster. Here's your 20-minute tour. This was the first one of the collection.

No, I tell Emily all the time that we're going to split 50-50 custody of the next kid because I'm done having kids. So I will be live.

I care. Avery is going to be the best aunt.

Oh, I will be over there every fucking day.

I literally.

Can't wait.

I literally can't wait. My postpartum will probably be a 100 % different experience because I had no friends when Iwhen I had trig. I was so lonely, and that's such a big part of postpartum. Huge. And so it's.

Going to be so much better. And that's how it was for me, because in San Diego, we had no one. So I gave birth. It's different when it's your first. When you have your first child, and you're alone, and you don't have help, you don't have mom friends, that is the most depressing, isolating thing.

But even if you do have mom friends, it's like, Okay, I'm also scared to leave my house. And I don't know what I'm doing, so It's like, What if we leave and we go to lunch and my baby starts... It's just a.

Whole thing. Yeah. And then you have a second and you're like, Well, I got to suck it up because I got to take my toddler to school, or to an activity, or to swim class, or to the park because he wants to play. And you're just like, like.

Oh, Baby number two is long for the ride. Ride.

That made Stevie the best car kid. She'll nap in the car in a second. Yeah, same with trig. He's like- Because she's been going around since fucking day one. I'm dead. Yeah, trig loves the car. How was your pregnancy pregnancy with.

Oh, I'm like, I really want to talk about about so I can rub it in. I'm just kidding. No. My pregnancy actually was really good. I always joke that I wouldn't have known I was pregnant for actually probably a while if I wasn't in tune with the fact of we weren't using protection, things like that. But my periods have always been a regular, especially because I've talked about I struggled really bad with an eating disorder for seven years. So that that into play of I actually thought I would have a really hard time getting pregnant and struggle. And so I just did not expect to get pregnant so quickly, which we're so grateful for. But I got pregnant, didn't have any symptoms other than just being tired. And so I was like, Oh, I guess it's normal. I'm always fucking tired. I'm always down for a nap.

No, you're just bitch sleeps everywhere.

Yeah, but it was extra tired. I was just like, I'm just tired. And so that was the only reason. And then I didn't get my period, but I was like, That's regular. And what's funny is I had actually just bought ovulation tests on Amazon, a giant pack. And I had just gotten them in the mail. We had just moved to St. George. And I was like, You know what? I'm just going to take a test. It was just really nonchalant. I was literally on FaceTime with one of my friends and was like, Oh, well, going to take a pregnancy test. And then I pissed in the cup, dipped it. It was so pregnant. Pregnant. And I was And it was early. I had to have been maybe four weeks early. And every test I took, took, got darker, darker, darker. You're like, like, shit. And I called my mom and was like, Hey, so I think I'm pregnant. And And my, you know Pam was just like, What? Were you guys even trying? And I was like, Mom, I told you that we were going to start trying, probably. We didn't really expect to get pregnant right now, but I'm pregnant.

And she was just like, Okay, congratulations. She was so so because... Whereas Whereas with other sisters, I'm sure that they'd be like, Okay, we're trying now. Whatever. I was just so nonchalant like, Yeah, I think I'm going to go off birth control soon. We'll see. And then I call her. Anyways, but my pregnancy was really chill. I definitely feel like it was really good because I lifted weights my entire pregnancy. You were so cute. So I stayed really strong. And the only issue with my pregnancy that was really hard was I had really bad. It's called pelvic girdle pain or or So anytime I tried to do... And rolling over in bed towards the end was so painful. Anything where it just puts strain right here was just so painful. So I ended up getting induced at 39 weeks and was like... See, See, I my birth was amazing.

I can't wait to see your pregnancy fashion.

Me too, because I won't be- Because.

You've so evolved and come into your style. Yeah, it'll at least be me. And you're also not LDS anymore, which is not nagging on people that are Mormon. Just before, she obviously wore garments and had a dress very conservative. So I think you're going to be so cute and showy of your bum.

Yeah, but not even that. I feel like if I were, at the time when I was pregnant, I feel like if I were LDS still and not leaving the church, I would have just embraced the modest fashion and made it it But that's where I was at a weird point when I was pregnant. It was like, I was was pregnant, then we also decided to leave the church. So I was like, not wearing garments garments anymore, but we didn't have the money for me to go buy new clothes. So I was wearing still what I had, but it just didn't feel like me anymore. And so I was literally borrowing my little sister's Brandy Melville tank tops when I would visit town. And I had my shoulder showing. And I remember I posted an Instagram photo of me and overalls and a tank top when I was pregnant. And I was like, I'm going to get so judged for this. I was like, Oh, no, people are going to know that I'm not wearing my garments. But no, this pregnancy, that bump is going to be fucking out. Out. I'm to be wearing an open cardigan, bump bump jeans open.

Are you going.

To let me throw throw in baby shower?

Absolutely.

Fucking Fucking Absolutely. That's going to be the party of.

The century. It's going to be so fun.

So going back to you mentioning your eating disorder, because I know you talked to me about the fact fact that, was like, No, babe, you can drink regular Dr. Pepper. And that was one of the things that... Which is like you laugh about it, but it is so sad.

When you think about it.

I I to cope with the pain. Because it's true. Because I struggle with that, too. And I remember you think about the calories, the sugar sugar content. Oh, yeah. Mentally fucks with you. Do you think that started because you were in dance?

For sure. Growing up dancing, my ballet teacher would make comments about our our or our our or or and just things like that. And that was very normal in the dance community. So we were just like, like, But at the same time, we were like, Fuck you. You're making us us so and we're literally going through puberty.

Especially in ballet, too, because you're expected to look a.

Certain way. Well, and you're also wearing these tights that are just holding you in the wrong way. I remember I was so self-conscious of my body in ballet, and you're also dancing in front of a mirror 24-7. But yeah, that definitely started with dance and probably just other things. But then I feel like it got the worst when I was a little bit when I was in high school. But back-to-middle school, school, but back to middle I was was because that's what I struggle with, was bulimia. And yeah, middle school, on and off. And then college was when it got really bad. Even my roommates caught me throwing up because I forgot to flush flush one time. And they all came in my room and they were like, Emily, what's going on? They were so sweet. But they were like, We want to help you. And I was like, I'm fine. I'm not going to do it anymore. But I was crying to them because I was obviously really struggling. And I was also just in a not great relationship at the time. And then I started dating braided, still struggled with it. And I think his whole...

Everyone knew I was struggling. When you go to the the bathroom, five times while you're eating a meal, people know that you're probably struggling with something. But at that point, it's such an addiction that it's like I had to throw up. And my mom knew, my dad knew, they were all trying to get me help. And then it was for sure, braided, just out of love. He was finally the first person I listened to where he was like, Babe, we need to get you help. Because it also went into fitness. I was working out all the time, and I was so obsessed with my body composition and counting macros, but I was also starving myself with macros. So then if I went over my macros, I was throwing it up. And it was just a really bad time. And that was around the time we got engaged. But by the time I got pregnant with trig, trig, was good, and I haven't struggled with it ever since.

Yeah. And it was seven years, right?

Yeah, because it was on and off, but it was a long period.

Did you ever do any treatment? Or was it just because of Brady's influence and being with him all the time that it helped you take a step back from it?

I went to therapy. So that's what I did, was I had calls with my therapist every every week, that helped a lot. But yeah, I also got recommended inpatient treatment, but but ended up not doing it just because I think I was just so scared of it going... Because that brings it to reality of like, Oh, shit. I'm really struggling with something. People are really worried about me, that they want to send me to a clinic twice a week. That's scary. So So they told me, they said, You can either do do or you can start with therapy. We'll see how it goes. And if it doesn't get better, that's when my family, family, and family was like, Then at that point, we're going to get you help. But luckily, therapy and and just just just I'm done. I can't do this to my body anymore. And also just knowing that in the future, I wanted to get pregnant. I wanted to be a mom. I didn't want to do anything to mess.

That up. And put your.

Baby at risk. Yeah, for sure. Obviously, I still struggled with it, especially when I was pregnant. It's hard. Your body is changing. You're really self-conscious. I definitely struggle with it. But I was was pregnant. I was like, Hell no. I'm not doing anything to jeopardize my health or trigs. And then after that, I just didn't struggle with anymore.

Well, I'm proud of you. Thank you. And you've come a long way. Thank you. And you also look amazing. Thank you. And you work hard in the gym. But you're also my fellow foodie. Thank you. You're welcome.

Keep going. I'm like, keep going with the comp.

It feels so good. Okay, so to end this episode, can you tell us any goals you have for your career or in the future? Because I know some things that you aspire to do, but can you share anything?

I have some... Really? I'm so happy with all of my brand collaborations. I'm so grateful for all the amazing brands that are my favorite that I've gotten to work with and I'm going to work with. I have some really exciting collaborations coming up, multiple that have been in the works for months, nothing quick. It's all been planned for months and months now. Those are all next year. We've been really taking our time because I'm like, I don't want to sell anything to my followers that I am not not proud And so we have those. And then obviously in the future, I really want to start a business that I'm excited about. But we'll see. I'll know when it's right and when I'm ready. Right now, I still feel like I'm in the thick of the craziness where I'm not quite ready, but.

I'm excited. And just like you said, it's one of those things where you're the type of person we both are. I talked about my podcast for two years. You've talked about these certain collaborations and business goals for so so long you would never pull the trigger unless you knew it was perfect, and that you -.

We want to be able to put our.

All into it. And that you, as a consumer, would spend your own money on.

And use every day. Yeah, and I would be confident that obviously not everyone's going to like everything. There's always going to be people that are like, I don't like it. But knowing that if I bought this with my own money, would I be happy with it? So that's what I always want to do for my audience.

Well, I'm excited. Thank you. We'll be the first to talk about it here on the Cheers Cheers when something's launched. Launched. I love you. I love you. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, we're we're cheering. Very watered down Simply Lemonades. I love you so much. Cheers. I love you. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. Love you, guys.