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We have eight months to go. Historically, support for third-party candidates shrinks. Closer to the election, people realize, they're not going to win. I need to vote for a winner. Perot, though, remember, got 19%. We have to watch this and see, is this traditional or is it like 1992? We got to watch it play out. Look just in Arizona. This is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s support. Among Hispanics, Latinos, 19%. That mostly hurts Biden, right? Because that's traditionally a more Democratic constituency, although there has been a little trickle back to Republicans and recycles. Younger voters, he's getting 16%. Again, your reflex is that hurts Biden. The Democrats mostly get younger voters. Independence, as I said, that's a bit of a draw. There are independent, Republican-leaning independents, Democratic-leaning independents. But look at this. Joe Biden needs Democrats in the cities, urban areas. Robert Kennedy's getting 11%, but rural voters, that's traditionally your Trump base. Robert Kennedy is getting 13%. So both campaigns are going to have to study. That's just Arizona. I'll bring up Pennsylvania to look at it as well. In these key states, absolutely critical to getting to 270. Kennedy gets 6% A lot of Biden voters in Pennsylvania.

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So if you're Biden campaign, say that's a problem. Well, he's getting 9% of 2020 Trump voters in Pennsylvania. In the cities, 9%, in the suburbs, 7%. But again, a lot of Trump voters in those rural Pennsylvania counties, he's getting 10%. So the key thing is, Anderson, both campaigns, eight months, they're going to have to study in which state is he hurting me, in which state might he, and the others, don't forget the others, be helping me. And guess what? Money you think Trump would spend his money just against Biden, Biden just against Trump? No. Watch. Pretty soon, there'll be some ads Bobby Kennedy. You can count on it.

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John King. Thank you. More now on the state of play that John just touched on in Arizona, specifically what undecided women voters there are saying about the issues that mattered them this time around. It's part of Randy Kay's continuing election series, the 53% %, which is the average proportion of women voters in presidential elections since 2000. Randy's conversation came during a week that saw Vice President Kamal Harris make a stop at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Saint Paul, Minnesota, the first time a sitting vice president has visited an abortion provider. The Biden campaign is clearly looking to make reproductive rights an issue during the campaign, and it was top of mind for the women that Randy talked to.

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Talk forever. To say. Cheers.

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So are you. Cheers.

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I don't know why the hell women's reproductive rights are even a political conversation.

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Amen. Why my body is off the conversation? Look, at the end of the day, we have two dude potential presidents. You have no business up in my body. Exactly. It's not only reproductive rights, they're now talking about IVF. What is next? I do not want anyone, a government official who is a non-doctor and not part of my medical team telling me what I can and cannot do to my body or what is right for my body.

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How important are reproductive rights and freedoms to you in terms of choosing a candidate? That's my top.

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Top.

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That's my top. That's my top. That's the one issue for all of you? Mm-mm.

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I think it's definitely on the top one or two. The timeline is coming up where me and my husband wanted to start trying, and I'm scared for when I start trying and something happens, and I have to make that choice, left either to die or it's just-Doctors will go to jail.

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These six women are all independent voters living in the critical swing state of Arizona, and they are all undecided. Until we brought them together in Scottsdale, they'd never met. Though all are affiliated with the women's business organization, No Women.

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I can't believe I'm saying it here. Friends and family don't even know this, but I had to have a medical abortion. They were like, It is either your life, or it's this unborn baby. To rip that away is not okay. We are literally going back so far in history.

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We have come In such a long way. We have fought such a hard battle, and so many people have died along the way. And the fact that we are going to go back to that- Such a joke, isn't it?

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Which candidate do you think would do the best job with the border.

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I'm sorry. We're picking from Biden.

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We have to. There is a none of the above.

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Is that what you want? Trump has declined to rule out, resuming his contentious this zero tolerance policy that led to thousands of migrant children and parents to be separated at the US border in 2018.

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Why is it always separation of families? Why is that the go-to?

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I am a child of immigrants. My entire family are immigrants. My father is a direct immigrant. He crossed over when he was in his 20s, but he did it the correct way. As a Mexican-American, I've lived here, and I've known both cultures, and it's a struggle. It's like, sorry, it takes me a little bit emotional sometimes because We're a country of immigrants, but also what Biden is doing by letting mass quantities in, there was already a murder.

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So when you hear Trump say something like he's going to do the biggest number of deportations in US history, how do you feel about that?

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It breaks my heart. I worry about the friends and the family here. I am of lighter skin tone. No one's going to ask me for my documents or whatever. What about my father? He's very dark-skinned.

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One thing that Biden's proposing is through executive action is having asylum officers at the border, and they would decide the asylum cases right there at the border, so it wouldn't get gummed up in the courts. They would really speed things up.

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It's the immigration system. It means more border Patrol agents. It means more asylum, more judges. It's overhauling the entire system, not just a wall, not just, Oh, let's add some more people that can say yes, no, yes, no. It's an entire overhaul.

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I think there should be a wall. I really, really do.

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Trump That's legal troubles, 88 criminal charges in four separate criminal cases. Does any of that, as you sit here still undecided, does any of that have any impact on whether you will end up supporting him?

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Every person who works for the government, from the private in the military to the President, takes the oath to support and defend the Constitution.

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Trump doesn't do that.

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And Trump does not do that. He does not respect the laws of the nation if they get in his way. I think he's a criminal and a crook and a manipulator and a bully. And so all of those things run through my mind is I think about, do I really want this person representing the United States?

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Are you comfortable with Trump serving as President, even if he ends up being a convicted felon?

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No. No. So is that a possibility? Yes. As a felon? Yes. Get the out of here.

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It's a very real possibility.

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Why is that even possible?

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Do you think either Biden or Trump are mentally fit for office.

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They're both way too old to be there.

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One's too childish, one's too senile.

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What do you all need to hear to pick a candidate?

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Michelle Obama come in.

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I need a new candidate.

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She slide in.

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Yes, I really do. Maybe Kennedy being a stronger appointment.

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I agree with that. I agree with actually both of you.

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Yeah. We need somebody new to come in and shake things up.

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Randy, those women sound really disappointed in their choices. Did they say what their vote will ultimately come down to?

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Well, Anderson, at least two of the women told us, in fact, they may not vote at all, but they are all really disappointed, as you said, in their choices in Trump and Biden. But on the flip side of that, they're also all very intrigued by Robert F Kennedy Jr, who is running as an independent. In fact, one woman who really strongly dislikes Donald Trump told me that if Trump were to choose Robert F Kennedy Jr as his running mate, she would vote for Trump. But really, Anderson, I get a sense from these women that they're not to hear something specific from Biden or Trump to win their vote. What they're looking for is a new candidate, a fresh face who they believe will bring real change. Anderson?