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In this week's Letter from London, I'm joined by a legendary Hollywood actress making her return to the small screen. I'm going to show you a new ring. That's the first one of the series. If you're new to the show, here's a clip.

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I'm working on this new case, a missing scientist. Found on the edge of the villages. Frozen solid. I'm What do you want? It's been six years. Why are you here?

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Because we both know what really happened. I need my help.

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The stars join me here in London, ahead of the show's grand finale, which is this Sunday. Jodie Foster, Kelly Reece, welcome to the program.Thank you.Thank you. What attracted you about True Detective in this particular series?

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Issa Lopez, the director, just did such a magnificent job writing all the episodes and creating this world. With the two true detectives that are female now. We remember Season One and Matthew McConaher, and Woody Harrelson, but there's something really extraordinary about the anthology and being able to say, We're going to do something completely different.

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So since Jody brought up Season One, was it the female-led character of this one that attracted you to it? And it's your first major on screen, right?

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Yes, it's my first major on screen. It's only my third acting job as well.

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You are part Cape Verdean, part Native American. Was that also an attractive calling point for you?

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Absolutely, because the representation or lack thereof that we have as Indigenous people is just... It's getting a lot better, and we're just in such a great time. So when I had the It was presented to me, this character, Navarro, was Inupiac and Dominican. She was part of two different worlds, part of the community that she was going to be policing. It was something that was so familiar to me because it's that balance that you have to have. You don't feel enough for either. So it just attracted me to this very larid character.

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Jody Foster, Kelly was a boxing champ, and she said, though, that-It still is. Yeah, it is. And we'll maybe go back to boxing.

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I'm not retired yet. Okay.

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And said that working with you was like training with Mike Tyson.

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Oh, without the biting.

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She still got your ear.

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She didn't bite any ears off. No, it was like training Mike Tyson in '86 in his prime.

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And Jody, you are obviously a mentor of sorts, I guess, for all the newcomers and actresses. You decided that you wanted your character, Liz D'Anvarez, to be aged up.

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Well, my age, yes. Your age.

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Yes. But putting Navarro's story as the center. Yeah. Is that right?

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Yeah, and I think Issa probably wanted that, too. But it was something that I really wanted to remind us that we were doing something that really isn't done very much, just to have the central voice of the film be an Indigenous voice, to look through those eyes in a way, not just because we're doing representation, but because we really want to be in that body and really understand it from that perspective. To do that, I'm just here to support. I reverse engineered my character of Liz Danvers to support Kaylee's character's journey.

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That doesn't happen often.

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Well, there's a funny thing that happens when you turn 60, I think, is, at least for me, I feel like there's some weird chemical that starts going off in your body, and you just don't care. And part of that not caring is that you suddenly realize that it's so much more fun and more satisfying to recognize that it's not your time, it's someone else's time.

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So the last major thriller, Detective, that you played got an Oscar, Clarice, et cetera. Congratulations because you're nominated again, in this case, best supporting actress, right? For Naya. Yes. Tell me the story. Everybody should know it.

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Well, it's the story of Diana Naya, who was a swimmer, had been a marathon swimmer for her whole life, and then came back at the age of 60, finally accomplishing her mission at 64 to swim from Cuba to Florida.

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Annette Benning and yourself, again, aged up. I mean, you were not shy about the sun damage and the mask damage that she had.

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Oh, my gosh.

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I mean, that takes some courage also.

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As I say, I was best supporting abs because I never had to get in the water. I basically just I stood on the boat and sucked in my stomach in my jogger bra, and that was pretty much all I had to do.

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There's the whole taxi driver cast group that's all meeting at the Oscars, right? By the time you did that film, I think you were-I was twelve years old. You were twelve, and you had more experience in film than either Martin Scorsese or Robert De Niro.

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Yes, I had made more movies than either one of them at that point. But it is funny to see... I mean, of course, I have so much respect for Scorsese and De Niro and all of the movies that they've made. But yeah, my reference for them is very different. Martin Scorsese had a little funny mustache, and he was really young, and his mother was on set the whole time, and she was always like-On taxi driver? Yes, and she was tucking in his shirt all the time, and she was like, Patting his butt.

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And not making sure you were okay.

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So I do have a different memory of that. I think his butt.

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That's what he did. And just because Killers of the Flyer Moon is another amazingly timely film in terms of diversity and representation of diversity and representation of Indigenous people. Did you like the film?

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There's mixed feelings about the film. They're not anything negative. I am so proud of Lily Gladstone and the entire Indigenous cast and the entire Osage Nation. She did a wonderful job. So did the whole cast. So I think having an ally like Martin Scorsese, who took his platform and told this story and worked with them, it's an amazing opportunity just to continue to go forward.

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Jody Foster, Kaylee Reece. Thank you so much indeed.

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Thank you.