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Hey, knock it off! Hey! Damn it! Meet Conan and Sona. She hit me just before you came up. It's not fair. I saw it. Well, I saw it. Hello there. Bill, how are you? I'm. I'm great. Bill. I'm Conan, this is Sona. That's. It's David, right? David. Yeah. David's also. I think you're coming from Illinois, aren't you? I am, yeah. Okay. Which part of Illinois are you from? Winthrop Harper, which is the northeast.

Corner of the state. We bordered Wisconsin and Lake Michigan. Okay.

Because, David, I think you're from the very, very farthest part south. I'm from Carlinville, closer to Springfield. Yeah. Oh, I know where. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no one really goes there. Oh come on. Well, no, they really it's it's fair. It's. That's true. Right. I wasn't putting you down.

Yeah. No you weren't.

Yeah. It's the only dairy Queen franchise that's failed in the United States.

No it's still open. It's still going.

But no one goes. Every now and then an ear of corn rolls in. Yeah, like it's a customer. Oh come on. Anyway, Bill, back to you. You're the focus here. Not my assistant, apparently, who comes from a cornfield. Bill, tell us a little bit about yourself. What do you do for a living?

I'm a police officer.

Oh, wow. You're a police officer. Very, very good. And what unit are you in? What? Tell us a little bit about your job as a police officer.

Well, the town that I live in is the town that I work for. It's a small town, so it's like four, four square miles. We got about 6000 people. Okay. So small town. I grew up here, so I, I've been I was assigned to as a K-9 officer for a number of years. Oh, just retired.

A K-9 officer. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I whenever I always love seeing a working dog and I love seeing police dogs. I just love the idea that because I think, correct me, if I'm wrong, but I think dogs know when they're working. They know that they have a oh, he knows.

Matter of fact, I was just talking to one of the guys about it. I had to stop wearing my uniform home because he would see me leaving in my uniform and just try to bust out the door with me. I'm like Neil, so I just decided to start changing at work.

Is this so your dog retired?

He. He is retired. Yeah.

What's he doing now? Is he like building model ships? And as he tried, has he tried golf?

He's he's he's watching a lot of the History Channel, I believe.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, just do me a favor. Check the liquor when you come home. Because it's when they. It's when they start day drinking that you got to worry. Well, what kind of dog is your dog that just retired? What's his name and what kind of dog is he?

His name is Hondo. He's a purebred German shepherd.

Oh, cool. They're supposed to be very smart dogs.

He's he's pretty smart.

Oh, I said very smart. And you said pretty smart.

He's pretty.

Smart. Okay. Yeah, he he's he's hearing all this right now and getting depressed. Yeah. Can we see him. Can he, can he come up and. Yeah. I want to see his face. I love to see you, I love dogs. Why don't you want to see this guy? Yeah. Condo. Condo, condo.

He can't hear us because he's.

Condo. Help! Help! I'm being robbed. Condo. I'm going to try and create a crime so that. What is he going.

To do through the. Oh, there he is.

Oh, Hondo.

Oh, what a gorgeous guy. Hi, Hondo. You've earned your retirement.

He did. He has earned it. Definitely.

Um, that's so funny. I wonder if Hondo went through some of the same tropes that people go through in movies, like. Well, I'm three days from retirement. Oh, no, that squirrel has a gun. Oh, blam blam. I'm no, I'm glad he's okay. I'm glad. Most in movies, whenever a policeman says, well, three days from retirement, you know, that's when the shit hits the fan.

That's success. Yeah, that was in. What was that Robert Duvall movie? Yeah, it's.

In every movie. It's in every police movie ever made. So let me ask you a question. If I can. Bill, how do you do you get to pick any dog or do they try to pair you with the right dog? I'm curious how it works.

Yeah. So your first day at class, they've already got the dogs set, and there's usually 4 or 5 officers in the class. Right. They've the kennel. The people that own the kennel have already done all the research on you. They've they've done your background. They talk to your police chief, your friends, your neighbors, your family, all without your knowledge. Oh, and they find out what kind of person you are. And that's how they pair up the dogs with you. Oh, that's sometimes, sometimes they'll even change, you know, mid day or the mid the first week they might see something that, oh this dog's not working with Bill. So we'll put them with Conan. And Conan's dog's going to go with, you know Sona and blah blah blah blah blah.

And this makes me I'm very curious about this. So how does how did they match Hondo with you? What qualities did they see in you that they saw in Hondo?

Well, fortunately this is my third dog, so and I got them later in my career. So I was at this point on a nice, even keel. And, and I had matured and, and so I got, I got that mature dog, I got the dog that was strong but confident and calm.

Yes. Oh I see, so that early in your career you might have had a dog that was maybe a little bit more of a hotshot, a hothead.

I did, I had, I had the top Gun dog. Yeah, he was, he was crazy. I loved him to death. But yeah.

I think if I was a K-9 officer, that pair me with a dog with very low testosterone and and that was prone to depression, I think that's. Yeah, I would be the.

First two I was least.

Yeah. It would be a very depressed Chihuahua.

Isn't that isn't that what Irish Setters are. Yeah.

I think that's very cool. So Hondo now is probably struggling a little bit with being retired.

He is, like I said, the first this happened on Memorial Day this year. And so the first couple of weeks was pretty tough. I was wearing my uniform home and you know, in the morning I change and and I'd go out to work and he would just try to bust out the door here with me and I'd be like, no, no, you got to stay in the house. And I stopped wearing my uniform home. And that helped out tremendously because he knew when when it was time to go to work because I throw my uniform on.

Hey, why did Hondo have to retire? I mean, what are the signs that it's time for your dog to retire?

So early on in his career, he got hit by a car accident that we had, and he broke his hip and he recovered fully from it. But the arthritis is starting to kick in, so he's getting a little. Yeah. Doesn't like to put his, you know, get up on stuff as much as he used to.

I get it I get it. My dad is 94 and I hit him with a car about a week ago. Oh, okay. First time I missed him. But then I swung around and I got him a second time.

Throw it in.

Reverse.

Yeah, I got him. Anyway, they say he's going to end up real good. So you're saying.

That's the same.

Thing? Kind of. Okay I think so, yeah. Yeah. So. Well, that's sounds like you got your hands full with that. That's your full time job. Is being a police officer in the K-9 unit.

Well, no more the K-9 unit now. I'm just, I, I run the training division and scheduling, and I still go on patrol and answer calls every now and then.

Do you ever see. Dogs that are just hanging out and they look like they're up to no good. And you go over and talk to them and say, you know, you could make something of your life. Is that something that would work? Or you.

Could dogs like smoking weed and.

Stuff. This dog is smoking weed.

And oddly enough, I don't know why dispatch does this, but every time we have a dog call like a loose dog or a dog that just bit somebody, they send me and I'm like.

I don't know, the dog guy I.

Handled I handled a dog that was trained to do, you know, ungodly things. And I don't deal with dogs that don't listen.

So, yeah, but I mean, the thing is, you can't give up on a dog. Any dog can become a police dog. Don't you believe that?

What I do believe that. I mean, I've seen everything from Chihuahuas, pitbulls, right? Whalers, German shepherds, everything. Even a poodle. Oh, you know, do some sort of police work. Yeah. You know, whether it be finding drugs or finding electronics, you know.

Stuff like, I think poodles mostly work in the lab. They're like, yeah, they're looking at a microscope.

Yeah, I have a poodle. I think she'd be a good police.

I know your poodle. No, your dog would not you? Her dog wears a slash hat. The same hat that slash wears. She thinks that's funny. It's cute. No. It's cute. Your dog cannot.

It's a little scared of flies, but I think she could really do something.

Oh, sure. Yeah. Scared of a fly and then tackle a robber? I don't think so. You have another job, do you not, sir?

I do, I do. It is not a late night talk show host. I do work for a funeral home.

Oh, well, there's probably some similarities, because trust me, both involve trying to work with stiffs.

Oh.

You try talking to some of these kids that had a show on the WB. It doesn't go anywhere. Sorry. That's a little. I have a little post-traumatic stress syndrome from the mid-nineties. Yeah. You know. Hey, so tell me about Dawson's Creek.

It's not.

Easy sledding. I'm not mentioning specific names, but anyway, so you do body retrieval.

Yeah. So. Well, removal. So, you know, when somebody dies in the hospital or dies at home, it's not always a, you know, lunchtime. Sometimes it's midnight, 2:00 in the morning, 3:00 in the morning. And I'm one of the people that they call to facilitate that, that removal. Wow.

Now, I imagine if it's at the hospital, it's a lot easier because you can just wheel them out, right?

Yeah. I mean, the beds move up and down.

Unless they died in, like the hospital cafeteria, but that would be really rare. I would think.

That would be. That would be a rare one. Yeah.

Unless the food and the cafeteria is really that bad. Listen, I should just let this whole line of questioning go. What I want to know is you must see some pretty crazy things. Like, you know, someone died and they were on one of those mechanical bucking broncos or something, and you have to try and figure out a way to get them off. Do you ever see something like that?

Is the bucking bronco still going?

Yeah, it's still going, but it's going very slowly.

Oh slow down. Yeah okay.

I think I would at that point just let them go until the ride's over.

I that's a you know what? That's a humane way to look at it. Any strange situations. Have you learned anything. What's the etiquette of retrieving a body removing a body.

So etiquette is etiquette is delicate. And like I said, I work in in the same area that I'm a police officer. And so and grew up and so everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people know me and so I walk into somebody's house at midnight and their grandma passed and they see like, oh, hey, it's Bill. And so everything's usually quiet and very calming hugs. And you know, that's.

Nice.

Stuff like that.

That's nice that they know you. That's nice that and that. And also you seem like a sensitive person. You're not going to go in there and go, you know man they let themselves go. You know what I mean?

Like, yeah.

I'm shocked that sweater didn't kill her years ago. She wore that. You know, that kind of thing.

It seems like there would be a lot of opportunity for some of that to have jokes. But, yeah, you just kind of, you know, tilt your head down and go in there and just be peaceful.

That's very nice of you, Bill. Better you than I, because I think I'd probably end up saying stuff, you know.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Well, you know, I think I'm a sensitive person, but occasionally it would, would slip out like, man, you know, be nice. There are times when this guy dieted before he. You know what I mean? You know.

You would have to drink wine before you pick up everybody because you're the nicest person after you have wine.

Oh, that's true. I am very nice.

So you just hyper sweet.

I'd come in all sloshed.

Oh, I'm so sad. Oh, what a wonderful home. They look so peaceful.

Listen, it's a very serious thing that you do. I mean, I'm thinking about you right now, Bill, because I'm talking to you. That's one of the reasons I'm thinking about you. But second, I'm thinking about you because I'm thinking about your service. You've worked all these years helping your community, as in this K-9 unit, and then you're doing this job that probably not a lot of people want to do, and you're doing it with a lot of respect. I my hat's off to you.

Well thank you, sir. Appreciate that.

Well, thank you for calling me sir. You're the first person to do that in a while. Oh, I don't get a lot. I don't get a lot of respect around here, Bill. No idea why he should know.

He shouldn't. He's good.

Hey, is it too late? I have a golden retriever named Loki, and he's six years old. And I think he's ad.

I think I think he's ad.

He's pretty crazy. And, I mean.

Loki is insane.

He's insane. And he he howls like a coyote for no reason. Like, I'll just come in in the morning. He goes, oh. And he's he has ad follows me all over the house. He's constantly getting into trouble. Is there any chance that he could become a police dog at six?

You know, I don't know if he could become a police dog, but he could become a well trained dog. And six is not a problem. Six? Really? You think.

You could make a real dog out of.

Loki? No.

Oh, you've met Loki.

I've met Loki. Loki, I don't I think he might be unchangeable.

Something's off with Loki. And we've we've tried. He's very smart, but he just doesn't. I don't know, he's. I think if you took an MRI of his head, there'd be, you know, two walnuts in there, some some chewing gum and a butterfly floating around. Yeah. I think he's he's got a screw loose. He's nuts.

No.

No dog is beyond repair. They can all say they can all get some help. And but the thing is, it's got to be consistent. I mean, you can't like, I'll see civilians take their dogs to the kennel where we trained at, and they think everything's great. They get their dog from their two week puppy class and they come home and they don't they don't train their dog at all. And then the dog falls off.

And that's the problem is we got some Loki, some training early on. I do think Loki has issues like real brain. I think he's crazy. Oh no, I mean really, but I love him. But but he's quite an unusual dog. Very strange. But yeah, I don't think there's a lot of consistency. You know, we say things like, no, no, you have to sit while we're eating dinner. But then sometimes we sit him up at the table with us. And we let him carve the turkey, and it's just a mess. And I think he. So he doesn't understand, you know? And then we get mad the next time we come in. And he's carving a turkey.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know. Yeah.

You're reinforcing that behavior that's on you.

Yeah, that's probably on me. Yeah.

Well exercise and training.

Is that for me or for the dog?

Oh for both. Yeah.

Bill, I very much would love for you to turn my dog into a police dog at six. A six year old insane golden retriever with Add. It's probably not going to happen, but I still think there's time for him. I'd love to see him become a police dog. I really would, because do they get paid?

They don't get paid, no, but they get their food paid for.

Okay. Oh, they get their food. Okay. Well that's something I was going to try and skim some of his salary.

Oh, you're just going to exploit Loki.

I would love to embezzle from my dog. I think that's such a funny crime. If my dog was a dog and I was, and he got a paycheck and I embezzled from it.

Yeah.

I would, people would hate.

Me.

Yeah, that's the lowest of the low.

Well, and then he goes to buy a house and.

Then he doesn't have.

Any money and he's.

Like, oh. And the judge is like, I can't understand you. Case dismissed. And I'm like, yeah, judge, I don't know what his problem is. Well, back to my seven homes.

Row row row row row row row row.

Yeah. You know you're just using him.

I am using him. Well, Bill, you seem like a very cool guy, and I do. All joking aside, your community is lucky to have you. You're you're. Oh, thank you. You're doing you're doing good work, and you seem like a really nice person. And I know if I was in trouble, I wouldn't. You feel good if you were in some bad situation. And then Bill showed up at your door. Yeah. And he had Honda with him. I just feel like, oh, this is all going to be okay.

If you die and you need your body to be removed. Yes. Yeah. I would want Bill to do that too. Yeah.

No, I'm going to have Bill take care of you when your time comes.

Oh okay. You too. And I hope it's embarrassing when you die. Like, I hope you're on the toilet.

Hey, what if I'm on the toilet in a Halloween costume? And Bill, it's not Halloween.

Yeah.

Would you spread the word, or would you keep it under your hat?

I have the utmost respect for you, Conan. I would I would take it to my great good.

Okay. Because when my time comes, you're they're going to. Someone is going to be in charge. She's going to send for you. Yeah. And I'm going to be on the toilet wearing a very strange costume. And you're going to have to take care of it. And I don't want it getting out. Okay.

All right. You got it.

Okay, well, I'm going to tell you I was going to say.

We're going to spread the word.

And it's not going to be one costume. It's going to be like, I'm part Ghostbuster, but also part werewolf.

But it's not Halloween.

But it's not Halloween.

Okay.

All right. It's like late February. Hey, Bill, it was very cool talking to you.

Very cool talking to you.

Yeah. Be safe. Take care and and take good care of Hondo.

I will.

All right. Bye, Hondo.

Say bye, buddy. He's just laying there staring at us.

Oh, you know what? That's that's the appropriate response. Hondo. Hondo just retired from the force. He's like, I don't need this shit right now.

All right, take care.

Bill.

Bye bye.

See you guys.

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