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What's up, Nicole? Hi, how are you?

How skinny is he? Definitely skinny. He's disciplined.

What? Let's go.

You missed signage or what?

I sent you a random text.

I got a.

Random one that was like, I think we're best friends now. I'm like, Yeah, I think you just texted the.

Wrong person. I haven't talked to you in four months.

All right, boys, we're back. Another full-sent podcast episode. Took a little break. We're going to have Dana back on the pod. It's like when we do an internal episode, too. Dana is just pretty much one of the boys at this point. It's pretty crazy to be able to call him an actual friend.

Yeah, how many days a week do you talk to him?

It could be like we don't talk for a week and then we talk every day or we're texting about something or FaceTime-ing about just like any.

Other friend. But is it like random? Because you don't do too many checkups on me and Joe. How have you been? How are you doing? Do you guys have that relationship?

Yeah, I check up on.

Him a lot. Yeah, I see. A lot. That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

He does the same for you?

I check up on you.

Only if you've seen some crazy shit that I got into. No. There's never a random phone call or a text. You wouldn't send me a Happy Thanksgiving text.

I don't think you'd send me one either. Yeah, I would. Happy Thanksgiving? Yeah. Maybe. Well, if I see you on social media, I know what you're doing. But if you go quiet, I also just know you're on a bendie. I don't want to bother you when you're in that bendy-mode. Yeah, I know. There's nothing to really check on. Last time I.

Didn't see you - Don't check up with me because you already know where my mental.

States are. Exactly. Last time I didn't see you for a week or two or some shit. I knew you were in New York just getting absolutely.

After it. That was the scariest week of my life, I'm not going to lie. That was pretty bad. But speaking of New York, you just attended U-of-C. Who did you take?

I took O-T-Megan.

O-t-megan? And Gabe.

Then you met Trump and-.

Trump was there. He came up to me, dabbed me up.

Said what you're doing. Did you introduce your date to him?

No, I didn't, actually. You get introduced, dear girl, to Trump.

What's that like? When Trump looks back at you, shakes your hand, and you have your date? Are you guys dating?

No, just friends.

What's her immediate reaction when she sees that?

Because that's a pretty big flex. -it's pretty sauce. It's pretty sauce. It's pretty sauce. Tucker Carlson came up, threw in a little zing with him.

Oh, yeah. How was that?

He's such a beauty.

He takes level sixes, right?

Yeah. I'm on the Sixth Bombers, too.

Me too.

The threes just don't... Yeah, but even the other threes is just like...

It's like a different form of a pick me up, I feel like.

It's so nice, though. It wakes me up. It's not even for the head rush. It's just like the feeling of just having an upper deck just in your fucking lip. It just slightly burns your lip a little bit. It just feels so comfortable. I know, I need one right now. It feels so fucking right to have a Zin upper deck, especially after a few drinks. You know when you're at the send and you're just like, you're buzzing and you're like, All right, I've had a few too many. It's time to throw in a nice Zin. Just one for like 30 minutes.

Yeah, usually if that's the case, I'm thinking of something else, but yeah.

I'm thinking of a nice Zin.

No, me too. Dude, if I could hang out with any like-.

I feel like you're trying to expose me there for the OT shit. What do you mean, bro? Just sneak up on me with that one.

No, I mean, that's a pretty big opportunity. Ringside, you could take.

Any- You took her out a few times, right? Like casual shit. How many?

Twice.

No, more. But it was like three.

But it was like casual, like, Yo, going to the club, come with. It wasn't like, Yo, going to sit ringside. President is going to be there, going to dap up Tucker Carlson and meet Dana White. I actually didn't know Trump was going to be there, too. I didn't either. I was.

Surprised at how many people were telling me. I found out on the way there. Then I told her, I said, By the way, Trump is going to be there.

There's a lot of people there.

Kidrock. It was like The Avengers walking out. We should talk to Dana about that.

Well, I'm happy for you, bro. I'm sure she's hitting you up, blowing you up, OT. I'm sorry I have friends owned you. I don't know. Are you guys just friends?

Yeah, we're just friends. Okay.

All right, well, let's get Dana in here.

Yeah. It's okay.

What's up? Where are.

We at, big guy? Where are we at? We're doing good. We're at 2:38 today. 2:38? All right. Let's see how much this guy likes money.

I know. Why?

Where does he have to get to?

He got big cash on the line Yeah, I know. I'm trying to lose some fucking weight. But how- The cash doesn't motivate.

You what will. How is that fair?

How is what fair?

He's not disciplined. He's got a little cheat code. Say the same thing.

Say that again.

He's not disciplined. He's on the shot. Okay. Don't you think that's a little unfair?

Yeah, it's very unfair, but he's still not fucking making the weight, even though he's on the shot.

Don't you think that's.

Ridiculous then? I think he needs more motivation.

Don't.

Up the stage. Some people are motivated in different ways.

Tell us about the bet.

I made a bet with him to lose weight. I couldn't believe when we did the power slap thing that he was 300 fucking pounds. It's just the guy doesn't look 300 pounds.

He thought the.

Scale was broken. I made a bet with him for 10 Gs that he could get down to-15? 15 Gs that he would get down 25 pounds. Huh? Twenty-five pounds. Twenty-five pounds. Boom, he hit it. He did it. But that first 25, when you're five foot, fucking six, 300 pounds, is easy to fucking lose. He does it. Then we make another bet to get him to the next level. The day is coming up because I'm supposed to see him in New York, and he starts blowing my assistant up saying he's not going to make the weight. I'm like, What the fuck do you mean he's not going to make the weight? This is bullshit. We get him on the phone. We readjusted to the December show. When he shows up here in December, you have to weigh what? Two-thirty. Two-thirty, and you get what? If he weighs 230 pounds, he gets another 15,000. He's upped his fucking salary by $30,000 this year if he can fucking make it. Then once we hit that, then we'll make another goal.

Holy.

Fuck. Why are you giving this guy so much money?

I didn't give him any money. I gave him $15,000. I tried to give him another $15,000, and he refused it. So we're going again.

How much do you have to go?

You know why I'm doing it? Because I like him. No, I know. He's a nice kid, and I like him, and I want him to be able to do this. Some people are motivated by different things, and I thought money would motivate him, and I was wrong. We're going to give it another shot. If that doesn't.

Work- Food motivates him. Food motivates him, unfortunately.

That's the problem. Well, unfortunately, food motivates all of us. You know what I mean? The difference in some people is you have to have this ability to fight with yourself. You ever hear Joe Logan talk about the inner bitch that fucking tries to with you? Everybody has it. You have to have the mental toughness to get through this stuff. I just did this fucking 86-hour fast.

Yeah, what made you decide to do that? How did.

That come about? I saw this thing online with this doctor from Boston. He was saying, and there's clinical studies that have done studies on this thing. They've done it on animals and humans. But if you do this water fast for seven days, basically when you put your body through adversity, different types of adversity, like cold plunger, for instance, you stay in there for three minutes at 50 degrees, your body thinks you're dying and your liver releases that shock protein, which is really good for you. When you do this water fast, your body starts fighting to try to stay alive when you do stuff like this to it. So apparently it sheds all the bad, dead cells and regenerates all these new cells to fight starvation or whatever the body thinks is happening. How does that not make sense? It's crazy. It's fucking awesome, Matt, is what it is. There's over a 70% chance that when you do this, you don't get Alzheimer's disease or fucking cancer and a bunch of other nasty shit. I talked to Gary Brecker. I run everything by this guy. Brecker said, It's absolutely true. It absolutely works. But you don't have to do seven full days.

Do 72 hours and told me all these things to do. I'm telling you, I felt incredible, man.

While you were doing it, you felt incredible?

Yeah, and I worked all day every day like I do, and worked out every day like I do. Really? Yeah. My last day of the fucking… I could have gone longer. I could have done fucking seven days. I felt so good.

Okay, so what were the urges like to fight?

You don't.

Get hungry at all? The urges are this. When you start getting into 48 hours, 50 hours, you're not hungry, but you're thinking about fucking food. When you think about our life, everywhere we look and everything we do, turn on the TV and try to watch a fucking football game. It's fucking pizza and fast food restaurants and all this fucking shit that just beaten you over the head subliminally. Then you start walking around your house and you look at the shit that you got in your house and you're not hungry. You're bored and you're walking around snacking. I love doing stuff that tests your will like that. I love it. Gary tells me to do... I'm going to do it twice a year. I'm going to do it twice a year. Fucking everybody's doing it. Everybody here at U. S. C. Is doing it. Skipp did it first. You saw how Rip, Skipp got after three days. It rips you to fucking shreds, which is great. But really what the benefit is internally, you know what I mean? But I say this all the time. It's like with the blood work with Gary. When everything's right inside, everything looks good on the outside, too.

Do you put that weight back.

On after? I'm still at 192.

What were you before?

After the fast, I was 192.

Do you know you were before the fast?

Yeah, I was like, Hey, I'm still... My buddies that did it lost 10 pounds. I only lost like five or six. I did it coming straight out in New York. I'm not going to lie, I ate a couple of bad things in New York. But you want to hear something fucking crazy? When you hear me talk about the Gary Brecket thing all the time and all the things that cleared up, no more meds, all the shit, and I stopped snoring, no sleep apnea. Apparently, we went to an Italian restaurant one night and I said, Fucking I'm going to try a little bit of this pasta. I ate a couple of the different pastas and just a few bites snoring like a fucking beast that night. Snored like a savage. How fucking crazy.

Is that? P pasta.

Is so fucking good, though. There's food, man. This food over here. Just the food over here.

You will still muck some pasta once in a while?

No, but I did in New York. I did in New York. That's my weakness. We had a big fucking night out with everybody and we went to this Italian restaurant. But normally I'm good. I'll get the steak or whatever. A couple of bites won't kill me. Wrong answer.

That's crazy.

What have you guys been up to?

What have we been up to? I mean, we've just been on the road for like two months.

I know you guys are beast. I'm trying to talk to you, Kyle. Kicking a fucking ass, man. Yeah, we're trying.

Well, you inspired us all to.

Start gone. You're that dude, man. You're that dude. You set your mind to it. Listen, when you see successful people, there's a pattern. There's an absolute pattern. Not saying you're not successful, I'm just saying. But when you see successful people, there's a pattern. When you set your mind to do something, you do it. I think.

It's so big, too, for us because you know all the business comboes we have, too. We have that exact demo, too. If I'm a role model, I think with all the business going into… Everyone wants to be healthy now, post-COVID, obviously, too. I think obviously all the obvious benefits, aside from getting healthy and getting in shape and just feeling good, just I think for the next five years of my career, whatever I do, I think being healthy, being in shape for all the businesses that we want to launch is so beneficial.

How much more energy do you have? How much more clarity do you have now? 100 %. And you're a young dude. You could have fucked around for another 10 years. I am not a young dude, and it's completely changed my life over the last two years. I'm way more productive than I was two years ago. I'm on a whole other fucking level. I'm 30 again.

You're just addicted.

To it, right? Addicted to it. I'm a fucking in. I'm all in. I do the superhuman every day. I travel with a fucking coal plunge now. My room in New York has a coal plunge in it now. I'm getting all these hotels that I stay at to build a coal plunge there, and I'll stay there every time I go. Yeah, I'm so fucking looney on this shit.

Right now. How many people are hitting you up, telling you that you're inspiring them?

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are doing it. What everybody's setting me up is saying, Introduce me to fucking Gary Brecker. That's what everybody's hitting me up saying. I'm literally 10, 15 a day. But yeah, no, people aren't. Listen, if a 54-year-old dude who was all fucked up and had all these problems, I think a lot of people, and I was the same way, I think that a lot of people keep that shit to themselves. I mean, look how tight I am with you guys. You guys never knew how fucked up I was. Never heard me walking around going, Oh, I'm fucked up. My legs, my this, my that. I sleep apnea. You're a man. Yeah. What's going on? You don't talk about that shit. You fucking deal with it and you do your thing. Then once I came out and started saying, Yeah, this is what was wrong with me, other dudes were like, Holy shit. Yeah, I have that too. I thought it was just part of life.

What made you hit that breaking point?

I didn't hit a breaking point. A Carrie- How.

He.

Approached you. She's like, Kyle, two years ago, if you told this to me, the minute you walked away, I'd be like, That motherfucker is a nutbag. You know what I mean? He's fucking out of his mind.

He just makes a lot of sense.

The way he speaks. I used to shit all over holistic medicine. You said it's absolutely right. Now after COVID, COVID woke us up to a lot of fucking bullshit with Big Pharma and these doctors and all this shit, man, all they want to do is put you on pills. It's an awakening. I fucking woke up and I'm one of these people. I don't believe in anything till you fucking show me. Gary Brecker has shown me.

That was such a crazy time, COVID. That's how we first started hanging out and stuff like that. One thing I wanted to ask you was, have you been seeing all the COVID vaccine commercials?

It's insane. Have you seen even Travis, Kelsey promoting it and stuff like that?

What do you.

Think about that? What's your take on that?

The Travis guy, I don't know him. I don't know anything about him other than he's a good football player. He's getting a lot of attention right now. But I don't know why, unless he's a believer, why would you promote that garbage? I don't know why you would do it. It's pretty fucking obvious. We don't need it. But like I say, to each his own, man, it's like people are still wearing masks. Unless you're Asian, because they were doing it way before it was cool. You know what I mean? The Asian people have been wearing masks for fucking decades. It's true. You know what I mean? They have. If you're not Asian and you're still wearing a mask, you're basically just telling everybody, Hey, I'm nuts. Hey, check me out. I'm fucking crazy. We get it. But I don't know, man. I don't know. There's no amount of money on it. I mean, he must have got a.

Bag for that. Wait, you're about to say there was no amount of money what?

There's no amount of money that would make me do something that I didn't fucking believe in. No amount of money. We were talking about how- So you must believe.

Yeah, we were talking about how you walked out with Trump. It was you, Trump, Kidrock, and Tucker, right? Yep. It's a pretty crazy.

Walk out. It was like The Fucking Avengers.

New York is always a fucking experience, man. The MSG, the buzz, the energy. But the truth of the matter is our fan base is aligned. I mean, we're our fan base, our fighters, everybody. I could walk out with Trump in San Francisco and the fucking place will go nuts. It's our fan base.

I was going to ask you, how hard was it to break the news to Kidrock that you're doing the Bud Light deal?

No, it wasn't hard to break the news to anybody when I tell everybody why I'm doing it, why I'm with Bud Light. I've been talking about this for fucking two weeks. I'm only doing deals with brands that I'm aligned with. Right. I am way more aligned with Anheiser-Bush than I am with any other beer company on this fucking planet. Let me just put it to you that way. I'm in the know. I deal with the real shit every day. I know Bud Light got hammered over one thing that they did, but when you look at the company as a whole and what they stand for and what they believe in, and when you talk about what somebody believes in and what they stand for, look at what they've done. Look at their track record. I've said it a million times, 65,000 Americans are employed ahead of Henheiser-Bush. That should be your number one reason. 65,000 jobs in America, an American company. Number two, they spend almost a billion dollars a year with US farmers. That alone should be another reason. A big majority of their employees are vets. They spent $44 million over the last several years taking care of fallen first responders, families, military families of soldiers who have fallen.

These guys are way more aligned with them than I am with anybody else.

Someone's got to say it too. I'll just leave it there. Bud Light is fire. Of course. We used to drink a lot. Call me trans, call me gay, but Bud Light's fire. For a beer, if I'm drinking a beer, a nice crispy Bud Light is... I hate to say it. I agree.

You don't have to hate to say it. It's true. Listen, We were making jokes about that before.

I tried to think people were maybe a little bit surprised because you always stand on what you.

Believe in. 100%. So don't be surprised. Yeah. There must be more to the story then.

Yeah, exactly, which you just explained.

Exactly. When you start talking about, and here's the thing, these people who consider themselves patriots and are hardcore, I fucking love this country. I am an American and I love this country. If you consider yourself a patriot and you're talking about all the other beers out there, I know all the other beers out there. You should be drinking fucking barrels of Bud Light if Woke is what you're worried about. Trust me when I tell you. Just trust me. Everybody knows who I am. Everybody knows who I stand for. I don't need fucking money. People are like, Oh, you fucking sell out. I was going to get a shitload of money no matter what, who I went with. Anyway. You don't have to say, Hey, I hate to say it. Bud Light is a great product. That's why they.

Were the- I'll get roasted for saying it too.

That's why they were the.

Number one. I'm just saying honestly, put me on a lie detector like Bud Light is probably.

One of my.

Favorite beers for sure.

Next week I'm going out to Anheiser-Bush and doing this whole tour and everything. We were with them before. They have this room that you go down where the beer comes right out of the fucking processing plant. When it comes out, this shit's bottled and then stored and shipped and all that stuff, and you like Bud Light, taste it coming right out of the fucking... It's unbelievable. I'll try it. You guys should-You should go. -come down there. You should meet me down there. When is it? We'll get together with Nicole after. If you guys come down, you should do the fucking trip with me. It's pretty bad.

Definitely take.

Dave, too. Are you allowed to talk about without how much? Obviously, you can't say certain stuff, but how does that deal as the President of the U. F. C, how do you navigate that deal? I don't know how you can say. I'm allowed to talk about whatever the fuck I want to talk about. I'm saying when the previous sponsor thing expires, how does that go down, the negotiation with.

The new sponsor? Yeah. We were in business with Modello for the last six years, and our deal is up Jan 1. The guy who was our go-between at Modello is a good dude, and I like him a lot and I respect him. We talked and we went back and forth and we negotiated. I finally had to make the call and say, Hey, listen, I'm going to make a move and go somewhere else. I love the guy, respect him. He did a great job with us and handling a lot of the stuff for us during our relationship with them.

Does Bud Light.

Come in with the only offer? Are there other offers.

That are like-There's plenty of offers, yeah. It's funny because when we first got our beer deal. When you get into sports, the beer deal is a big deal.

What was.

That first beer deal? Mickey's Big Mouth was our first ever sponsor. How much was that? We used to drink that. You guys probably know who the fuck that is. No idea. It's a malt liquor. We all used to drink it in high school.

Oh, Mickey's. Mickey's. Yeah, and in a green bottle. Exactly.

They're.

Not the tastiest, though.

Exactly, but they're affordable when you're young. We used to drink that shit. Obviously, we used to drink tons of fucking Bud Light when we were in high school, too. When we first got our Bud deal, it was a big deal for us. The guy who was the king over at Budweiser at the time, this guy named Tony Pontoro. Tony Pontoro was the most powerful fucking guy in all of sports. He was a good dude, and we had fun with our first beer deal.

Do you remember what that first bag was for the beer deal? For the USC?

How much? Yeah, I don't remember off the top of my head, but just the fact that we had that Bud Light logo in the fucking center when we're done. So when I pitched Bud Light and we were pitching them, I built this video that I made. I want to show you guys before you leave today. This is this Bud Light video that I made for- That's so crazy. It'll resonate.

Was that the big, first sponsor for the USC? Was that the first sponsor where you were like.

Holy shit? Yes, and you were probably fucking 12 or something. Wait, did I show you this fucking commercial?

This is off-topic, but I just compared this to other leagues like Commissioner Goodell, and it seems like you have the most responsibility out of anybody. You're dealing with this, and then you have... You personally, when you see all these stars that are at U-of-C events, they all hit you up personally, right?

Yeah.

They say, Hey, I need tickets for this. I could take for that. Does that ever piss you off? Or how do you decide? I love it.

I love it, man. It's all in how you... Like Jared Leto. If you'd had told me six years ago that me and Jared Leto would be good friends, I'd have been like, You're crazy. There's not anything that Jared Leto and I could possibly have in common. Jared Letto is the coolest motherfucker ever.

He goes to.

A lot of fights. I love it. Not only you watch his fucking everything, he knows every little detail, hits me up all the time about this. That Jared Letto, I fucking love that kid. Great, dude, man. Most of the people that come are all really cool guys, and you've interacted with most of them. It's very rare do we get a douchebag at a USC event. Usually, the fans are really cool guys.

Every time we're there, we're just like... I mean, usually, thank you, you see us pretty well, but sometimes the real stars will be right in front of us. Yeah, yeah.

I'll do anything for you guys. No, we know. The problem with Nelk is you guys roll 50 fucking five deep. That's him, bro. You know what I mean? 55 deep. I've never had a full one.

We get Kyle's. That's the Shahheys now. That's the Shahheys, bro. I swear to God.

I swear, bro. We get Kyle's allotment, right? Then we get Steve's allotment, right?

Yeah.

It's a lot of seats. Let me tell you what, you guys will be sitting on the fucking… You guys will be standing on the octagon for Christ's sakes. You roll 55 deep everywhere you go, and we still get you guys thinking.

That's why last time on New York. I didn't bring Stani. I just brought a chick.

You brought a chick? You know what happened? You were in, then you canceled. No, I know. We're battling. We're getting all the fucking shit done. It's like Friday, and Amber hits me and goes, Yeah, Kyle's back in. We got to move people. There's people in those seats.

Do you deal with that, though?

Yes, I do every fucking seating chart every weekend for the last 23 years. Yeah, see that's fucking a lot. I see everybody. They hit me up and they're like, Kyle's back in. Who did you move? Who did you move? Some people asked to take fucking seats and- Is it okay to say who we moved?

They didn't even know.

They.

Got moved. Is it okay to say who we moved for Kyle? Couldn't have been a super important guy if you're moving.

If you're in Madison Square Garden, New York City, and the second row, 50-yard line, you were somebody.

Did you see the girl he was with?

They got moved.

You see.

The girl he was with? No, but I heard about the girl that he was with. From who? Junior?

Exactly. I've seen him liking her photos. That is fucking hilarious. That's fucking hilarious.

That is hilarious.

One thing I've always wondered is the USC doesn't allow for, like you'll see in boxing, how a fighter can walk out with a rapper or their entourage, and that's something you've never allowed, right?

No, they walk out with their team. They walk out with the guys who train them and help them get there and whatever. We don't turn it into a fucking circus. Have you ever noticed in the boxing, there's 500 people in the ring that don't belong in the ring? Who the fuck are these people and why are they in there? They're nobody's looking to get on fucking TV. That's what they are. The only people that are in the fucking octagon are people that need to be in the octagon. Right.

I know it is so crowded at the end of a boxing fight. It just makes no sense. It just makes no sense.

Let's have stuff for them. Even the promoters are going in there for what? The fuck do you need to be in there for? You know when I go in there? When it's time to put the fucking belt on, or if a big fucking Melee starts to break out or whatever, that's it.

Well, like you said, that's what our section looks like because we roll so deep with guys after a boxing fight with all those guys in the ring. That's literally what our table is going to look like at Marquee.

No, we don't have that many.

Guys there. But it is. It's fucking crowded and you're like, Who are these people? What the fuck is going on? It's more of a safety thing.

We were in the back. Remember I was coming back from walking Trump down, and while I was coming back, you guys were all standing up by the elevator over there, and fucking Logan Paul was in there. Logan Paul did not ask for tickets. I never fucking talked. I didn't even know he was there until we were walking out and he was in the back. Did you see him?

No, I saw him. The U. F. C. Posted he was there.

Yeah, how crazy is that?

Well, can't he just get his own tickets with the.

Of course he can. You think he.

Bought them? But when you're talking about… Huh?

You think he bought them?

I don't know what he did. I got to ask him how he got.

Those fucking tickets. Dylan Dennis was there, too.

I didn't know that either till after he was out front fighting with everybody, but I saw it on Instagram, but maybe he was in a box or something. Maybe he was in a box with somebody who I don't know. I came out and I was like, Hey, what's.

Going on? I see that being asked a lot, Dylan Danis and the U. F. C. Is that something that you'd ever entertain?

I don't know. Do you think he should be? I heard he just retired.

I know the USC is all about the best of the best. As a fan, I'd watch it. But I don't know, I know it's like maybe he has to earn his way just like any other fighter.

Would have to earn their way, right? Well, here's the other thing. The other thing with him is, and I have no beef with the kid at all. I've never probably said two words to him in my whole life, but every time he's around, shit's going down. You know what I mean? We can't have that stuff going on here. We can't. A lot of people will see when guys get into it on stage or something starts to happen, they're like, Oh, they must love this or whatever. No, we don't love it. We don't need that shit to sell fights. Basically what happens is when.

That goes down- Like the physical altercations and shit. Yeah.

The athletic commission goes crazy and people start getting fined and they come after us. It's our job to keep that shit under control. That's why when you see these other events with these guys and everything breaks out like that, it's a fucking... Those guys are- It's a shit show, right? Yeah, total, unprofessional clown show.

Does the impact that he had on the Prime card with the amount of paper beef sales they sold, none of that's like, Damn, maybe we give him a try?

What do you mean?

Just because he got a lot of credit for selling a lot of fucking paper views.

I don't know what they did. I haven't heard about anybody selling a lot of paper views lately.

I think they claimed it was 1.3 million.

I don't know what numbers it actually did. I think he just obviously hyped.

It up a lot. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you how hard it is to sell 1.3 million paper view buys. If you did sell 1.3, if you sold fucking 700,000 paper view buys, they'd be putting on fights fucking 10 times a year. When you hear those numbers fly around the paper view world, they're lion motherfuckers. Don't ever believe that shit. You know how much fucking money that is if they went in and cut a deal and did 1.3 million pay-per-view buys. Anybody who's been on any of these fucking horrible boxing shows… I like Logan and some of these guys are involved in this shit. If you come out and you say that you did 1.3 million pay-per-view buys on your event, you're lying through your fucking teeth. Lying through the teeth.

That amount of money that you would make, they'd be fucking doing pay-per-views all the fucking time. Let me tell you what, every pay-per-view distributor out there would want them, and Showtime wouldn't have went out of business.

Yeah.

I think that event too, I was personally even hyped up for it just because of the personal beef, obviously. But I think after watching it now, it just ruined it because the fights were so bad. It's not something that you'd actually pay for. Maybe I'm just going to wait and see the clips on Instagram. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to watch it live next time.

Much cheaper and a much better experience. The production sucks. The fucking fights end up sucking. It's shitty boxing is what it is. I'm not trying to shit. I don't care what these guys do. They knocked yourself out. They obviously crushed it. These are just facts. Tiktox. To say that they're doing any numbers. All these different people have tried to invest in this shit and they've tried to raise money and do all this other bullshit. People would be fighting over them, fighting over them and throwing fucking truckloads of money at them if they did anywhere near a million buys. None of those fucking guys are doing a million buys.

Yeah. It is just crazy. When you think, though, the power of social media.

No one.

Really wants to see those guys fight, but they create so much beef on Twitter, on their phones that people really will tune into that shit instead of watching two great fighters that are quiet.

Well, that's the problem right now for boxing is that these guys are overshadowing the guys that are actually really good in the fights that could be made, you know what I mean? As far as hype goes. For sure. But as far as sales go, no.

In the long term, it's quite bad.

For the sport. I don't know, man. I mean, when we talk about it, we've been talking about what's bad for boxing, and boxing is dead for the last fucking 30 years, but this shit is still going on. But there isn't the money in it that everybody thinks there is. There's not. There's no business there at the end of the day. It's all just a bunch of hype and bullshit and shitty boxing.

It's shitty fights. You think they'll ever… Is there ever a chance that there'll be another Connor, Floyd-type fight in the USC's history?

To say no would be crazy because you never know what's going to happen. Every year as we go into a new year and I'm looking at what we did, I'm like, How the fuck do we beat next year? We start looking at the lineups of fights that are coming up. There's always these fights that pop up that you don't see coming and you never expect. Like when we were at Fight Island, the birth of Hamzaa, Chemayev, you know what I mean? Look at where this dude is now. That's the fun of being in this fucking business. I love when that shit happens, but it happens every year. A fight pops up that you don't see coming, and when it does, it's.

Really fun. We just walked in this room, we can't say anything, but there's a lot of unannounced fights on the wall that I didn't even know about, and locations and shit. I'm looking at this and I'm like, Holy fuck. 2024 is about to be a big year.

It's going to be badass. You know what's fun? Going back to Toronto, brother.

I know. That's going to be.

Fucking crazy. Are you come for that? I'm so fucking excited to go back to Toronto.

I have just such a so much MMA fan.

I got goosebumps right now telling you. I have this fucking love for Toronto, Canada. You know what I mean? When we first started blowing up in Canada, we had GSP up there and everything, and we did these big fights in Toronto. I love the city. I love the people. I love the energy, the fucking hotels and everything else up there. I've had so much fun in my career and in my life in Toronto, Canada. I haven't been there in so fucking long before COVID.

Covid was a shit show.

You know what I mean? I'm excited to get back.

It's going to be fun. The government finally started to, because you said you're only going to go places where you guys can do good business. 100%. That's good. I'm so pumped.

For that. I am too. It's going to be fun.

We got to do some shit that week.

Whatever you want, I'm in.

I don't know if we'll put this in, but the LCBO, I think, is trying to make it happen.

We're working on that too.

We're helping push it.

That would be crazy. Yeah, I think they're setting up a call for me with them to… Yeah.

That'd be crazy.

I'm going to try to really fucking push them to do this.

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Okay, so you said, I think you did Theo the other day and you said you don't bet on.

Sports at all. I've had some bad sports betting experiences. Scott Van Pelt, you guys know who he is? Sports center, yeah. Yeah, sports center, right? Watch his show on fucking Sunday nights after the game. It's Bad Beats. Bad Beats. Yeah. It's incredible. It's the most brilliant segment ever built in a fucking sports show. It's incredible. Every time I watch it, it blows my fucking mind. But you hear this saying that people have, I'm going to throw some money on it to make the game fun. It ain't fucking fun. There's nothing fun about watching this gameplay out and sweating your fucking money like that. There was one last night. We were playing cards last night. Me and Taylor LeWon, Taylor is in town. We were playing cards last night, Red Rock, and we're watching the Bad Beats. The over-under was 60, right? There was two minutes left of the game, and it was like 47. To watch how everything unfolded in the last two and a half minutes to go over the fucking 60, it's just like every fucking weekend that shit happens, man. Sports betting is not fun.

You're listening to Gamble? Too long of a sweat. What about...

Crazy.

You started playing- But that could be like having a 20 and then watching five cards come out on the dealer and hitting a 21, too. Yeah, exactly.

They.

Get a seven card fucking.

21 to beat you. The difference is you can sweat that game for two and a half hours. Looks so good. Then 30 minutes things change. It's the worst fucking sweat. That's why I don't do it.

How about this? How about you bet a 10-team parlay? How many people are watching this right now? Bet 10-team parays and shit, you'll win nine fucking games over the weekend, and then the last game on your fucking thing, you end up losing in some goofy bullshit or whatever. It's fucking unbelievable. I've had too much of it.

Do you know what your number, your biggest hand sweat was ever? Oh, yeah. Like your biggest action on one hand to Blackjack?

Oh, Blackjack? Oh, fuck. Blackjack has been fucking… I've done just about everything that you could do in a fucking Blackjack game. I won a million dollars in one hand. What?

A million in one hand?

Do you remember the hand?

A million in one hand. Yeah, it was at Mandalay Bay. Because of the limits that they let me bet there, I had two hands out there at 75. I had splits that split out in so many ways, doubles from the splits and fucking everywhere. What's funny is the guy that was my host at the time, we were talking like two weeks before me and my crew, and we were like, If this ever plays out, my old security guy fucking was saying, If this plays out the way, there could be a million dollar hand. My guy was like, No, no, no, there could never be a million dollar hand. Fucking two weeks later, a million dollar hand, and I won it.

How was that sweat?

I walked out of the room when they started flipping the fucking cards over, man. Once the things started to play out and he was getting ready to flip his, I walked outside the room and I was waiting to hear dead fucking silence or people going crazy and the whole room erupted. I came running back in.

The real question is, did you walk away after that? Huh? Did you walk away after that?

Or did you keep going? No, because I think I was in. No, I kept playing. I don't know how it ended that night, but I kept playing. But I've had so many nights. We were literally just... I had a fucking crazy night last night.

Well, I was going to say something that you do that people might not know. You bail people out all the time. You bailed me out. You bailed Kyle out, Steve. Why do.

You- The only difference is you beg.

I was due for one.

Yeah, it'll come around. Stani, I'll bail you out any day, brother. No, that's the only time you.

Can- Bob Minery 2.0, right?

No, no. Well, that's where he came from. He was groomed. He was groomed by Minery.

Okay, I really- We got another groomer.

Brett says he might be worse. He might be.

Worse in a fucking way. I really appreciate that, though. But why do you do that for everybody just.

Because you're a good guy? Why wouldn't I do it? You know what I mean? Why wouldn't I do it? Last night, so Taylor LeWon, since Power Slap won, Taylor LeWon has been playing. I play for him, and he comes over. To date, we played last night. He won another 30 Gs last night. He has won $420,000 this year.

What.

The fuck? I play with his money. That's crazy. That's with one of the times he came, we lost. We lost one of the times. There's been five Power Slap events this year. Four we won, one we lost, and he's up 4:20.

When do you quit?

Quit what?

Gambling. Never. Take your win.

I'll never quit gambling. I don't sportsput, but every once in a while. When I say every once in a while, maybe I usually have a Super Bowl party at my house every year, and I'll go up to the Red Rock and I'll buy shitloads of prop bets and I give them out to everybody that comes to my house. I just have the machine run through them and bet. Sometimes I'll bet the kids and everything. That's for fun. We're not big money one way or the other and all that shit. Just if you come over to my party and you grab five or six tickets and three or four of them hit, people leave there with three, four hundred bucks that night for bets they didn't even have to go play. I like gambling, man. I grew up in this town. I love this fucking city. Every night when I drive home, I post the same fucking view of my fucking the highway going to my house. I can't tell if this city was built for me or if I was built for this city, but I fucking love this place.

Oh, yeah.

Well, hopefully we don't get to this night. Damn, yeah, Super Bowl is here this year, too, right? Yeah.

Holy shit. And shit's going to be crazy here. If you look at F1 and all the shit that's going on, the Super Bowl is going to be fucking 10,000 times bigger than F1. It's going to be fucking crazy. That weekend, Friday, we're doing Power Slap, Saturday is U. F. C, and Sunday is the Super Bowl.

Holy.

Shit. Yeah.

Have you announced the.

Card yet or not? Not yet. We're going to have two of the biggest fucking parties. Now there's parties going on everywhere. Basically, we're telling you how fucking Power Slap is a party. Then we'll all end up at fucking Red Rock and go crazy up there. Then we'll do the same thing Saturday night, and then we'll do the Super Bowl. Actually, I'm going to go to Ruben just called me about an hour ago. He's having a couple of fucking cool parties here. Yeah, I'm going tomorrow.

Huh? To Delila Saturday night? Are you? Yeah, you want to go together?

No, I.

Can't tomorrow. You're pretty cool for me. We're going to be out tomorrow.

You're saying for Super Bowl? I'm saying Super Bowl.

Oh, the fanatics.

Yeah, I've been invited to a million of his parties, and I've never been. We were just talking. He's like, This is going to be the first party you're ever going to attend of mine at Super Bowl. Because there's no.

Excuses in Vegas. That weekend will for sure be, you think, the biggest weekend Vegas.

Has ever had. Nobody throws parties like fucking Ruben does. This guy is.

Fucking unbelievable. But I mean, in terms of money for the city of Las Vegas, the Super Bowl.

It's going to be the biggest thing that has ever fucking happened in Las Vegas. The biggest thing of all time. I don't know how much.

Action was wagered that weekend.

Then Vegas just got a baseball.

Team, too, right? Yeah, they got the A's. We got the A's, not they.

You go to all the Raiders games, don't you? Huh? You go to a lot of the Raiders games?

I.

Have a box. Yeah, so you go to all of them?

None. I really don't go to any of them, but I have a.

Box there. Do you watch NFL or not?

I do, but this year I really haven't watched a lot of football this year. I love the Raiders because I love Max Crosby. Yeah, he's.

The.

Fucking man. Fucking awesome, man. He's on fire this year, too. He's a beast. He's such a fucking animal, man. I love it. He's a beast to watch. Love everything about this kid. His mindset, attitude, great personality, fun dude to hang around with, good human being. Crosby is a shit. He's basically the leader of that team.

Another Vegas thing, the Sphere. Is there anything you could tell us about?

I'm so fucking pumped for this thing. The last big challenge in my life was COVID. The next big challenge in my life is the Sphere, how to figure this thing out and how to turn this into the greatest fucking live sporting event anybody's ever seen as far as combat sports go.

Do you book it and then figure it out or figure it out, then book it.

Booked it. Now I got to figure it out.

You guys didn't figure out shit before?

I've talked a lot of fucking shit.

Yeah, you really love to put pressure on yourself.

I love to put pressure on myself. That's exactly right. I fucking love it.

I know we were talking about that, too, even the New York thing. I remember watching the USC and you guys always just hammering the state of New York. You guys said people forget, right? It's crazy, but I was watching one that it wasn't what it was, right?

What.

Happened was- There were states that didn't allow USC.

There was a corrupt politician, and I used to call this guy out saying that he was corrupt. What was he corrupt for? He ended up going to prison. At a fucking old age. He was an old fucking dude. He went to prison. They let him out of prison to die, basically, before he died. Why was he blocking it? Sheldon Silver. He was connected to the Las Vegas Culinary Union, who are total pieces of shit, these guys. The Las Vegas Culinary Union is what was keeping us out of New York. Why? Like cooking? Because the Fortitas are a non-Union casino. Okay. Yeah, the Fortitas are non-Union. These guys were spending all their members' dues to attack the U. F. C. And attack me personally. As soon as the Fortitas were out, it stopped. They had a website, U. F. C. Bad for Children and all this other shit. Just total fucking scumbags. That's what kept us out. The guy that they were in cahoots with was a fucking criminal. The Las Vegas culinary and this guy was a criminal. He ended up going to fucking prison. Then we get into New York. Seven years we've been in New York.

Number one, number two, and number three, all time at Madison Square Garden for the biggest gates ever. How's that dick taste, Las Vegas Culinary Union?

How many times have you gotten to say that? How many times have you gotten to say that? How's this dick taste?

Everyone's with their own view. This is the first time. First time. That's funny.

You know the most viral clip of you that I see every day is when you call out the younger generation for being.

What.

Made you say that? What is it about these younger kids you think that they're just such fucking….

I could go on for fucking 20 minutes. There's a lot of reasons why I think they are. It's not like during my generation, there weren't some too, but this generation is next level. But the other thing, too, to be fair, I think every generation thinks the next generation is soft. But right now, if you look at all the shit that's going on in the world right now, if we went to war, there's no respect for the police anymore, there's no respect for the military. There's no respect for our country, our freedom, our way of life that we have here. You can sit around and you can nit-pick and talk about things that are wrong with the United States. Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell fucking your generation, my generation, everybody's generation, this is it. If this falls, there's no other fucking place to go. So all these fucking people are like, Oh, God. If President Trump wins, I'm fucking leaving the country. They all say it. They all say it. Yeah, of course. Nobody fucking does it. No. Where are you going to go? Nowhere. All these other fucking places that you think are fucking cool and you think are so fucking great, when the shit hits the fan, you find out who's who and what's what.

We saw it during COVID. Places that I thought were fucking awesome, places that I thought I would love to live. Then we go through COVID. Gang, this is it. All the people that are out there marching and and crying and protesting and all this. Man, this is the greatest country on earth, and we should be defending it, fighting for our freedom, every one of us. It's no different than the conversation I have with Theo Van the other day, we're talking about stupid like sponsors and all this other stuff. Everybody's afraid to stand up. Everybody's afraid to be pro-American. What other country? Some of these other countries are completely up. But the people who live there are proud of where they come from. They carry their flag, they stand up. You talk about people coming over the border for Mexico for a better life in America, right? Show me a Mexican that doesn't love his country and isn't proud to be a fucking Mexican. Wake up. This is the greatest country in America. Anyway, this whole thing started with you saying, So if we go to war right now, are you confident in this generation that we have right now that these guys are going to go out and storm some beach somewhere or whatever?

There's a small handful of people, most of them probably down around the Bible Belt and down south that'll actually stand up and fight this country. Country right now. It's scary. Habib's crew in Daegasthan could probably come in and take over this country right now because this generation is such a bunch of. When you look at some of these people in these other countries, the shit that's going on in the Middle East. Some of these guys from Russia, any of the Stans, you got to Ston at the end of the name of your country. Built different, born different, different mentality. We're getting soft. We're getting weak. Every 10 years we get softer and weaker.

I've never actually thought about that, but when I used to work in a restaurant, obviously a lot of Mexicans, they are so proud of Mexico and they all come from shit, terrible living, but they always will stand.

With Mexico. Fucking so proud. Show me a country where the people aren't proud of who they are and where they come from. It's so strong that Americans that have that heritage call themselves that, right?

Yeah.

What are you? I'm Italian. No, you're not. You're a fucking American. What are you? I'm Irish. No, you're not. You're an American. Nobody hates it more than these people who are really from those countries when Americans say that they're from there. What people need to wake up and realize is that we're all Americans. You're an African American. No, you're not. You're a fucking American. I'm Irish American. No, you're not. You're a fucking… We're all Americans, and we need to stop fucking look around and realize what we have and how good it is. Ronald Reagan, great quote from Ronald Reagan, We're one generation away from losing our freedom. Every fucking 10 years it feels like we keep getting further and further away from that. We need to wake up.

We need fucking Trump to win.

Yeah, please.

How are you feeling about it? Do you think that Trump is.

Back in the White House? I don't know, man. It's crazy. I mean, did you see what happened in San Francisco yesterday or two days ago? Yeah, I think so. They cleaned up all the fucking-Streets. -yeah, crazy. -all the streets. Yeah, crazy.

All the streets. Yeah. What? You think they're starting to do shit now.

Because they're getting worried? But you wouldn't do that for the people of San Francisco. I wouldn't you do that for the people of San Francisco? How do you fuck up California on the grid?

-arguably. -fucking terrible. La is just as bad.

San Diego is one of the greatest fucking places on Earth.

I know.

There's a handful of places on Earth that can even rival California. California is one of the fucking greatest places on Earth.

How do you let it go to shit? You're absolutely right. The entire state is beautiful.

You showed that in a week you could clean the fucking whole place up.

Yeah.

But you won't do it for the people in California who are paying taxes there and live there and work there.

La is fucking.

Different now. No, LA is gone as shit. Let me tell you what. It's gone a complete shit.

Twelve years ago, I used to look for excuses to go to LA, man. I'd be like, I'd create meetings to go to fucking LA. I don't go to LA ever anymore. I go to LA if I have to go to LA, and that's it.

You saw we're moving to Florida.

I did.

We're pumped.

Yeah, everybody's moving to Florida, Texas, or Nevada.

The only thing that sucks is farther from Vegas, but that's the only downside.

Yeah. Last time, so basically, Miami is what L. A. Used to be. My last trip to Miami, man, I went to Miami back in '09. Me and Lorezo went down there. It was when the economy crashed.

That was the last time you've been there.

Since-no.

We party. Besides that time. We weren't there for... No, I know.

I'm saying. But for years, I hadn't been there since then.

Okay, since '09.

It was a shithole. Windows all boarded up, fucking... Miami is off the charts now. Off the charts. It's one of the fucking hottest places on Earth. People out everywhere. Restaurant are unbelievable packed. We were at that.

You.

Know... Gretman's spot. 100 %. And it's fucking incredible. And it's DeSantis. Desantis is one of the greatest governors of all time. If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't want DeSantis to run for fucking president. I want DeSantis to be in Florida for the rest of my fucking life. What that guy did through COVID, what he did to that state, and he's the reason everybody's moving down there right now. So yeah, much respect to DeSantis for what he's done in the state of Florida.

I want to know how close was the Elon and Zuck fight to ever happening.

I was talking to these guys once or twice or three times a week leading up to that whole thing. It was very real. For the brief moment that it was happening, it was fucking fun. I was having a blast with it. Zuckerberg is fascinating in his own ways.

Yeah, he's all in, you.

Can tell. And Musk is fascinating in his own ways. So talking to both of these guys on a daily basis on this stuff, it was fun, man. I have a lot of respect for both guys. I like them both a lot. It was fun in the short amount of time that it- What?

Why do you think it fell through?

Well, one of them is 54 years old. They're both fucking multibillionaires. But do one of.

Them is in his interest?

I think that Zuckerberg is obsessed. This has become an obsession for Zuckerberg. Yeah, you can tell. He's one of those guys that once he fucking zeroes in on something, you can tell he's all in. For Musk, this is like, this was Musk fucking- He likes talking.

Yeah, fuck you and da da da da. Musk is brilliant. The thing about Musk, too, is he's a very necessary fucking human being in this country right now. He gets it, he sees it. He has the money. He doesn't give a fuck. He's brilliant and he has a ton of fucking common sense. He's not going to let anybody fucking push him around. He's a voice and a presence that this country needs right now, maybe the world, not just the United States, the world. Elon Musk is an essential fucking human right now on this planet.

Is there any other super fights that you could see happening over the next two years.

Or year? There is. We're talking about one right now, actually, that just popped up a few days ago. I can't talk about it, but till we get into-.

Is it involved with McGregor at all?

Well, every fight that you would consider a super fight would involve McGregor, but this one isn't. No. Damn.

Do you think, Connor? I know you guys asked it a lot, but Connor, does he fight next year, you think?

Yes, 100% fights next year.

Is this still versus Chanler or is it still or could be anyone now?

We'll see. I mean, we'llsee the timing of when it goes down, the good thing for guys like Chanler and there's a lot of shit talk about fight or pay and all that other shit. You don't see these guys hurrying up the fight. John Jones takes off for fucking years. Chanler can hang out and wait fucking Connor. You know what I mean? When you think about Chanler, Chanler was fighting in fucking Bellator, right? Now, Chanler can just sit around and take his time and wait for Connor however long it takes. These guys are all in good positions where they can wait for the right time, the.

Right fight. I guess technically, you wouldn't deserve it, but as a fan, I love the buildup. Islam versus Connor would be crazy.

I think, Chanler, when you actually think about the fight, Chanler-Connor is a fun fucking fight. Yeah, for sure. Fun fight.

Anytime, Connor fights.

And Chanler?

Yeah.

Tell me the last boring fight Chanler was in. Even going back to Bellator, he was an exciting fight in Bellator, too.

He's a cool ass guy, too.

He's a very good dude.

Very nice guy.

Was his last fight, Geitchy? I might trip in.

Yeah, I.

Think so. What else do you do day-to-day outside of work? Well, these days- To keep you grounded, to keep your.

Head on straight. Listen, you guys know I hang with my fucking kids all the time. I play blackjack and I work. Since this whole hell thing, I'm like running for… We own throw one, me and the Fortinet. We own ridiculousness on MTV. We own Nitro Circus, SLS, Gate League, and Travis Pastrana's nitrocross. The're based in California when we bought the company, I'm building the offices here, moving the whole fucking company here so that I can oversee it day to day over here and be involved. We hired Matt Cone, who was from WMA. He's running that company. Then I got Slap. I got Frank, La Micella, who's a WMA attorney that I hired. He runs Slap over here. He's the President. I oversee all these companies every day. Fucking hollerhead. I'm running four businesses.

Right now. Do you ever say fuck? I have too much on my plate.

No, that's the problem. I'm a sick fuck. Something's wrong with me and I don't have enough. I keep taking on all these other projects, plus doing a lot of shit with.

Them too. All of that is just brainstorming different shit.

Dude, I want to see Slap. We need to get in, we used to talk about it all the time, but we need to get in like a Jerry Springer-type situation, I think.

Where a.

Guy had his girl, she had a side piece, and the side piece and the main girl slapped each other for the win.

You want Jerry Springer?

No, like that.

We should get Menry involved. Menry is like if you looked up a Jerry Springer fucking, somebody that would be on Jerry Springer, it's Bob Menry. Bob Menry is like the fucking perfect. Right?

I'm sure he's going to.

Hit you up about this very shortly. Well, he ain't doing nothing. He needs fucking work. He needs some money. Daddy, will you bring him back and let him make some money, please?

Yeah, not me. Not me.

His father. His father disowned him, and now he's fucked. Daddy, Kyle.

Let him go. Yeah, that was a huge bag fumble. That was the biggest bag fumble, bro.

The.

Biggest bag fumble ever. It was the biggest what?

The biggest bag. He fumbled the bag. He fumbled.

Have you heard that term? I'll never forget it as long as I live. I was eating at a fucking restaurant down in Florida. I found out from him. He and I talked because we had something going on, told me what was going on. I literally got up from the restaurant, walked outside, and I called Menry. I said, What the fuck are you doing? He's like, You don't understand. I said, Stop. Get on a fucking plane right now and fly to Kyle and do what you're fucking supposed to do. I'm telling you right now, you're going to regret this for the rest of your life. You don't fucking do that. We go at it for fucking 20 minutes. By the end of it, I said, All right, motherfucker. Remember we had this conversation. The rest is history. Fucking straight down to the bottom. Straight down to the bottom. These things go in patterns. He has a new Sugar Daddy. Kyle is not a Sugar Daddy anymore. He's got a new one. It's this weird thing with Menry. You go through it, too. Bob is one of those guys like he's a nightmare. But then when you talk to him, he has that personality that the guy that sucks you back in.

He's not a bad guy.

He's just fucked up. Yeah, but he's also the most entertaining human being I think I've.

Ever seen. Yeah, no, it's true. He's a fucking train wreck. He is a walking, talking, fucking train wreck. He cannot get out of his own way. He can't help himself. It's almost like he has to sabotage himself. If things start to get too good, he has to destroy it and sabotage himself and then go, My wife and fucking get on fucking, you know what I mean? And start whatever, you know? Yeah. It's fucking crazy. I don't know.

I don't think people know how much we've talked about this behind the scenes, too.

It's fucking crazy.

We must have had over 100 calls about.

This, right?

Probably.

More. At least it's funny.

I don't hate Bob. I don't dislike Bob. He's a fascinating human being. But all the relationships that he has damaged over the last however many years that since he popped up, he popped up right before COVID, had the funny videos and shit like that, and went on a nice little run, but sabotaged every single fucking relationship he's ever had. Very few people will take his call these days. It's like he can't help himself. He cannot. Every time he hits the pin... You were the pinnacle of success for him. He was fucking there. That dude was going to fucking had it set and was going to make real money. It's fascinating as I was in it, but out on the outside, not in, but not in, and to watch it all unravel. I was talking to both sides. I was talking to you, I was talking to him, I was talking to the Shahidis. I tried to reel him in and get him to do this. He just was in this place where he just absolutely refused. It's not like Minari is stupid. Minari is not stupid. He was sabotaging himself.

I don't.

Get it. It's fascinating.

He's like, What do you mean? I don't know what he wanted.

He wanted to destroy it. I don't know. Yeah. No, I'm telling you, he wanted to destroy it. There's no amount of money that you could have went back to him with and said, This is what we'll pay you. Are you all right? Maybe it would have said maybe for 30 seconds, he would have said all right. Two days later, he would have destroyed it. He's got this self-destruction thing.

Yeah, I don't get it. I don't think.

We'll ever understand it. You mean Irene, Jim Carey, where he has two personalities, like two people? Yeah. It's like that. Yeah, it's true. He's got two different people.

You're right. No, he's definitely got some issues. He's got a fucking laundry list issues, but he's got this thing where he will sabotage anything good in his life.

Do you pay attention to a lot of other creators? Or do you watch what's hot and what's the next big thing? Have you seen.

This- I'm fascinated by the whole influencer world and social media and how this whole thing is working. There's so many talented kids out there. I got into social media immediately. As soon as Twitter happened, I got it. I got out there and started. I used to do my video blogs on YouTube where we do these whole behind-the-scenes thing. I got the whole social media. I'm like the uncle of fucking social media. Now I see all these different kids out there, the creators like fucking Logan, who again is one of the guys that was early on and big, and all these kids that come to slap and stuff. It's cool to watch. I'm fascinated by it.

What's your take on the in real life streaming? When people come to the Power Slap event, they're live streaming. You'll see now people are getting jumped. Everyone knows where they are. I don't know if you paid attention to any of that. Steve just started doing it. We flew to fucking Brazil, did it in the favelas, and it was absolute madness.

I knew you were there, but you guys went into the favelas?

Yeah, live. Everyone's watching us live like it's a fucking TV show. It's a Truman show. Yeah. And this is like the next big wave.

How did it go?

It was a great time. Absolutely terrifying.

Yeah. When did you get back?

I was only in Brazil for like six hours.

What?

Yeah, I had to do a podcast.

You flew to Brazil for six hours? Yeah. That's some gangster shit right there.

Fuck yeah, thank you. Stiny.

There you go. You might go to Rio. You might pull today. Yeah.

You went to Rio.

Straight to the Favelas.

That's real shit right there. I left the shit right there.

Woke up, landed at 6:00 AM, went to a do Patrick Bet David and then flew here.

Holy.

Shit. Yeah, bro. Don't call me fucking Menry 2.0 ever again.

Yeah. He could never do that. His anxiety would fucking blow him out ofthe water when he came to Abu Dhabi, one of the greatest places on Earth, one of the safest places on Earth. Fucking amazing place. I say it all the time. If you've never been to Abu Dhabi, you have to go to Abu Dhabi. He's there for fucking hours, and his anxiety just fucking… How do we keep talking about Minre? Anyway, you said Minre 2.0. But yeah, that's fucking badass that you guys went down there and did that. That's fucking gangster.

Yeah, it's crazy. But it's just I don't know what it is. It's like new content, everything. You got to just adapt with what everyone's liking. You see Aiden comes to the slabs, and they're just live. It's just bizarre.

Aiden is another one.

A hundred thousand people are watching this kid.

Aiden is fascinating. This guy gets on there and does... He's another guy, man. I was sitting in here a couple of days ago with a psychologist and Hunter, and these guys are fucking psychoanalyzing me and basically talking about how I have no fear of risk. Zero fear of risk. Aden Ross is one of those fucking guys, too. When you actually watch Aden sit down and we've gambled together many times, zero fear of risk, this kid. He's fucking all in. For somebody that young to play the way that he plays with the money that he plays with, pretty fucking pretty badass.

Yeah, Aiden is a cool guy.

Yeah. All right. I mean, I'm good.

I think this is great, right? Yeah. I think it was off fire. Yeah.

Now we go, dude.

We got to just have you on every once in a while because we think it's like when we do our boys-only episodes. You're pretty.

Much- We want to talk about just relevant shit and get your take on stuff. Yeah, when was.

The last time we had you on? Over a year with.

Tyson, I think. Isn't that crazy? Listen, boys, you know me. I'm Uncle Nelk. Whenever you need me, I'm here.

I know you're pretty much you're the Nelk uncle at this point, right? That's right. All right, let's go.

I want to give you $15,000. Let's go. All right. Thankyou, Niel. Appreciate it.

All right, boys. Love you.

Hit us up. We'll be at.

The Red Rock if you want to play later, too. Yes, I'll.

Be there tonight. I'll be there, so I'm in. All right, bro.

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