We want out. We want out. We want out. We want out. We want out. We want out.

We got a crazy episode today. We're at Billy Bob's in Texas. Check out this bar, bro. It's not open right now, but this is the biggest bar in America. It fits 5,000 people. They sell like 15,000 drinks a night. Happy Dad is actually available here. So shout out to Billy Bob's because they're just showing Happy Dad so much love. We love it. He was calling me? Classic memory, bro. Late. Where are you? You're late.

How far away were we, sir? 21 minutes.

21 minutes. Oh, my God. You're late two episodes in a row, bro.

It's perfect for the episode. I just did a purpose to make sure it was good for the episode.

This is perfect. You're going to miss Dr. Phil on the helicopter.

It's almost better. It's like, Well, Bob should be here, but I don't know where he is. You know?

Yeah, you're just manipulating the audience, right?

Yeah, right.

All right, I'll see you soon.

I got to go. God, I got this episode to run.

I'm an idiot.

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Steiny and Bob are both late for Dr. Phil. What else What else is seriously new? I know, bro. This is the type of that I deal with on a day-to-day basis. Just so you guys know, you're landing at 12:10. He said, Yeah. I said, That's a bit late, don't you think? He said, I thought the pod was at one. I'm like, Yeah, it's 30 minutes from the airport. I think that's a bit tight, to be honest, for a massive episode. I even warned him, Brad. I was here.

I was here on time. It's actually an insane car.

Dr. Phil's... I don't know. I guess he's trying to flex on us a little bit.

He's flying in on a helicopter.

Even Trump didn't do that or Elon.

He's upping it. He's upping it.

He's definitely changing.

They put a makeup on and shit.

He's doing his hair 100%. Stani, hurry up. It's very specific. Sizes. Otherwise, we would have grabbed your hats. Cowboy hat?

I'm not a cowboy hat. I'm not a part of your two gay cowboys. I'm good. Okay. Yo, run.

I was on the phone with my agent. Hey, guys, big new Tom Cruise movie. Big new Tom Cruise movie. You are in trouble.

What the fuck is that?

That's crazy.Official?I.

Have a boat to pick with you, though, on the show. That's fine.

Just make sure the boat don't pick with all of us.

Wait, where's the Harry Potter costume?

Harry Potter costume.

I knew you wouldn't bring it, luckily. Steiny I got one from LA. Since you're not wearing Potter, you're going to be wearing Dumbledore this time.

Oh, my favorite.

He's pulling a bull right here.

Topper's dust, or what? That's nice.

Is it?

Round location.

Long place. Come on, get in here.

Long place, Dr. Phil. Hey, let's go. I'm going to fight Dr. Phil. I don't think you should fight him. He got me out of bed.

It's really hard to take you seriously then.

I'm not going to lie.

Good, sir. We got a lot of questions.

I hope you have somebody with answers. How's it going, boys?

What's going on, Kyle? I lost a prop bet, so I got to wear this shit. So sorry. Apologize.

Well, it must have been a big bet. Yeah, it was all right.

You always pull up like this?

It's the only way to go, right? He's boss.

Come on. Phil. All right, we got a lot to cover. We got to head over there.

So the bet was we had a bit of a disagreement back in the day. We could get into that, too, later.

I sued them.

He was on the show. He left. He tried suing Yes. Tried suing us.

Tried suing us, but-Tried suing us, didn't work, spent a bunch of money.

But either way, we came to an agreement.

His little daddy, Dana White, called me up and asked for a favor, so I let it go.

So I let him come back on for six episodes. And by the end of the six episode, his promise was he has to get Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter, which was a dream guest of ours. You are as well. So thank you for being here. But until he gets them, he has to wear a different character from Harry Potter every episode. So today, he's Elvis Dumbeloy.

Well, he was at the house last night. I should have brought him. Who was? Bradcliffe.

Are you out of your mind? Are you serious? No. You can't fuck me like that, doc. You can't fuck with me. I'm serious. This is a real thing. This is my life.

It depends on it. No, but this is awesome to have you here, man. When we heard that you were coming on the show, we all got really excited. We all took early flights. Nice to be here today, so we're pumped to have you here. I know you got a bunch of stuff going on, too, right?

Well, I do, but nothing more important than being here with you guys.

Have you ever had somebody ask you something that you didn't have advice for, you got stump?

It happens daily.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

You don't know the answer to how to help them.

Bob, why don't you ask them something?

Go ahead.

No. Well, first of all, I think that you're one of my favorite people that I've ever watched in my life.Thank you.My I remember my mother always used to watch you every second of every day. And I was not late today. They give me because I party too much sometimes, but so does he. He parties all the time.

You were there with him?

I wasn't. He just goes out.

But, Doc, Is that such a bad thing?

Well, it seems to be working for you.

Yeah.

I mean, you look to be healthy and happy.

Well, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, because I got out of this really bad relationship. I got out of this really bad relationship. There was this girl who, unfortunately, cheated on me several times. I didn't know the number is so high, and it keeps growing by the day. So I was really traumatized over it. I was really over it, and I was like, How can I get over this? Because I went to a dark place. And then what I felt was the best way to get out of it is to just I'm going to run through as many women as I could in the most respectful way. What?

I don't think we came here to do therapy for you, personally.

I got one chance to sit down with Dr. Phil.

You don't think I'm going to find a fascinating-No, I know. But we're here to talk to Dr. Phil about what he's working on, what he's doing.

I'm Oh, yeah, you're right. All right, guys.

Why don't you tell us about Marriott Street Media?

Well, I was getting the end of the story.

Fair. So what I want to know is I'm serious. It's a real thing. So the best way for a guy, if you had a girl that you loved, you cared about.

Sit up normally.

Why are you sitting like this? A girl you loved, you cared about so much, and she fucked you over. How do you recover from that? If you can't get out of your head, it's in your head every day, every day, every day.

How'd you pick her?

Yeah, I actually met her. I thought she was normal. I met her at a bar, randomly.

Well, there you go.

She seemed normal. She seemed like she was a good girl. I'm just asking you this. Do you think is it okay to sleep around after that, a traumatic thing like that happens?

Yeah, it's not going to fix it.

Really?

No.

Okay.

What do you think will fix it? How do you think he can get it out of his head? Because here's the problem, too, he's not telling you the rest of the story. He also still involves himself with this person.

I slept with her two nights ago, too. So that's like, you can't go back to your ex's. No. Especially after she's done all that damage to you.

And then you blast her on social media.

We don't need to talk about that. That was my assistant. He takes over my account between 1:00 in the morning and 8:00 in the morning. So it's whenever it's So you were hacked? I was hacked. My account was hacked.

You've heard that one before, right?

Yeah. So I just didn't know if you had any advice.

Yeah, my advice is once you're out, stay out. Okay. She's in your rear view mirror. That's the reason. Rear view mirrors are that big and windshield are that big. Look ahead, man. Leave her in your rear view. Move on. Okay.

This is also a reoccurring issue.

And Stani also, I think, has sex with her, and he's not telling me. Yeah. So what's your passion project right now that you're working on?

Yeah, I am launching a new network.

Wow.

It's not at the level that you're dealing with, but with her. But it is 24/7.

Yeah.

Oh, you are in there.

I'm taking this costume I'm rocking my-Just leave.

That's fine. That's a good... Yeah, that's good. Or here, throw on the cowboy hat.

I got a little more of a serious question about your company. Brad, take this over, make this serious.

I got this. I'm sorry, guys. I got this for real. So social media, right? You've seen it change and evolve over the years because you've been on the network cable side of things, and now you're on the social media side of things. How do you see yourself? Obviously, having great success like you've had on network media in the social space? How is it different? Do you have Like a team that helps you?

Oh, yeah. There are people that do the technical parts of it, not the content parts of it. If something gets said, I need to say it, but I'm not good at hitting the buttons and all that stuff. But I think people get their information differently now than they did. You guys grew up with this, right? Yeah. What year were you born? 94. 89. Yeah.

I have a blend of both, for sure. Yeah. And so does he.

Yeah. Yeah. But I started my show... The first year of Dr. Phil was 2002. At that point, there weren't any social media platforms. They didn't even exist. So when I started, I was dealing with people that had real-world issues. There wasn't anything like cyberbullying. Those two words were never used together. There was no such thing. There weren't any online predators. You didn't have to worry about somebody talking your 14-year-old daughter out her window, thinking she was talking to a 14-year-old guy that was going to meet her downtown, and it turns out to be a 45-year-old pedophile or something. You didn't have to worry about that. But then about '08, '09, everything changed because that's when the smartphones dropped. And all of a sudden, social media platforms got prolific. It started out with MySpace. You remember that? Yeah, of course. Yeah, that was... Bands were real big on my space and stuff. That didn't last very long, but it changed the world. I mean, it changed everything. And technology is good. I love technology, but it's got a lot of unintended negative consequences.

So what's the goal of the new network?

The goal of the new network is to communicate with people every way we possibly can about common sense core values that I think They were really important for people to be healthy and happy. When those smartphones dropped, the next year were the highest levels of anxiety, depression, and loneliness among young people ever recorded.

Really? That's a fact?

That's a fact.

In what? 2009?

2009 and 2010, highest levels. And it just kept getting worse since then. And it's terrible now. And then when COVID hit, it really spiked.

You Do you think there's any way to turn it into more of a positive look on social media?

Oh, there are positives to social media. Stay away from your page.

That's it.

No, there are positives to it. For sure, there are positives to it. But the average person checks their phone 352 times a day. What's your screen time? I have no idea.

Because you can find out now. You can look on your phone. If you guys all look on your phone, you can find out the screen time.

But it's less on the phone than it is on the iPad because I do a lot of stuff on the iPad.

You ever played- You seem like a big iPad guy. Yeah.

So does it seem like the only solution for the negativity is to just spend less time on your phone?

Well, negativity that's associated with social media platforms and cell phones. They asked people, they did a survey not long ago. They asked a bunch of college kids, What would we have to pay you a week to get off your devices? And it was like, I don't know. It was less than I thought. It was like 50 bucks a month or something, 30, 50 bucks a week, I think it was. And they said, What if we got everybody else off of them? Where nobody was on it. They said, We'd pay you. The survey said, We'd pay you. The only reason they're on it is just FOMO. They're scared to death. They're going to miss something.

So what do you think is causing the negativity with the social media? Is it because you could see everyone else's life in a way that's not necessarily true?

People are constantly- People compare themselves to all these influencers' lives, but they're not real. Mine's real, doc. Their reality with other people's social mask, and by comparison, they lose every time. But of course you are. It's like comparing yourself to somebody on a billboard. They don't really look like that.

I think the other problem, too, is now social media, it's a way to make relationships. You wouldn't get laid if it wasn't for social media. Oh, my God.

Who are you?

I have so much All of us. All of us.

Wait a minute. Well, we're doing better. You know what they do?

Their lives are, they run around with these people. Hey, hold on. You, too. You do, too. Because I like to live a normal life, Dr. Phil. I live a normal life. You don't. You live the most unnormal life. You don't even live anywhere. You know what you guys do when I start to work with them?

You live in hotels? I live in hotels.

I live in a beautiful place in Las Vegas. You don't have a house? I live in Las Vegas. How is that normal? It's beautiful. That's not your house. I forgot my point. When I started to work with them, everything was good. No anxiety. I had no social media that I was using. That is insane. Every time I open up a cabinet, there's a camera there. It's like they… I got to tell you a story. Don't you guys understand what real life is? You should step away from the cameras and have them when they follow you and everything. You're the guy who narrates. Bob, you film everything you do. No, I don't. My thing takes two seconds. You're not going to buy a writer?

Yes, bro. You film everything in your story in real time.

I don't have a camera following.

Dude, I was on FaceTime with this guy the other day.

I'm taking off Dumbledore.

6:00 in the morning, I look and it's on his story. He screenshots it and posts it right away.

He's the epitome of that guy.

What about TikTok? You use TikTok? Hold on. Does Dr. Phil use TikTok?

I Are there some things on TikTok?

We got to go back to your anxiety.

Are they going to ban TikTok or no? No, I don't think so. They just want someone to buy it. They'll sell it.

I don't think so. What's your advice, though, to young people? Because obviously, what we do, we use social media. Everyone's going to use it. What is the answer to that problem.

Well, it's not using it as a problem. It's abusing it. The problem is young people quit living their lives. They date later, they start having sex later, they get their driver's license later. Their development is arrested because they're not living their real lives. They don't develop socially. So much of things that are normal development, healthy development skills, interactive skills, real-world skills, get pushed off the schedule because they spend so much time on social media. So they don't have the social skills that they would have. If they weren't on that, they would go out in the yard, they would touch the grass, they would talk to the neighbor next door. They would play softball, baseball, team sports, interact with people. And if you add up all the hours they spend on the screen and you took half of those and made them where they were interacting with their friends out doing something, it would change the whole world.

So can you make social media a positive thing then? Because we can't get away from it now at this point.

No. It's going to get worse with AI.

That's what I was going to say. Isn't that just a technology issue? Even the Apple Vision Pro, that's only V1. If we compare that to the first smartphone, imagine when that's on V15, what is the Apple Vision Pro going to be? How do we make it better? I also think it's a thing where it's like, too, if you have an anxiety or even fear to approach somebody in person, doing it by your phone, that goes away.

So it takes out that factor of, Oh, I'm going to approach somebody in person and fear it.

Because he's a big wear stuff that's not really his, like a flexer, and he gets people into like...

Oh, he's the worst. Listen, it's gold chains, whatever it is, the chains, it's clubs. He has a bottle service problem.

That's who I am. I don't know why that's...

He's the best life guy.

He started a show just to get women. He started a show just to get women.

Well, it's like in Santa Monica, they've got the fake private fuselage for the private airplane. You can go rent it for 15 minutes intervals. And the influencers do that all the time. They go sit in this fake airplane and pretend they're on a private jet flying somewhere.

Have you done that? Yeah, wait, by the way, don't worry. We recorded how you pulled up, so we know you're legit.

Have you actually done that? Have you actually used that?

I mean, I've been on planes that I didn't pay for that I've shown that I'm on there.

No, I mean, fake planes.

Yeah, he's a fake plane guru.

Please. Once I got exposed, there was no chance I was going to do that.

Do you think you should wait till marriage to have sex?

What?

Do you think you should wait till marriage to have sex? I think it's a question that a lot of people I shouldn't know. And ask them seriously. Valid question, a little out of the blue. Because you just brought up the point that people are starting to have sex younger. I'm trying to do your accent. But should you wait till marriage to have sex, do you think?

Well, I'm not sure you should ever have sex.

We have a lot of it lately, Yo, yo, yo.

We read a lot of it. Wait, I want to tell you a story. This thing don't even work no more. I got to tell you guys this. At March Madness, this guy, we went to March Madness, and this guy comes up to me, and he's like, Hey, I got to sit next to you. I was like, Oh, God. He was like, You're with Bob Manry? I'm like, Yeah. He said, I met him five years ago. We had dinner together. His girl goes to the bathroom and he looks at me and he says, Hey, you're a good-looking guy. Please don't my girlfriend. God comes up to me in March Madness. Never seen him before. So this is an anxiety that he's had for what? Ten years now?

Wait, did I have the fear of somebody else sleeping with my girl? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Maybe sometimes.

Is that an inner insecurity? That's dinner talk? I mean, this is somebody you said somebody you were having dinner with?

Yeah, a random guy.

Why was it on the agenda?

You know what I like to do? I like these guys that run around security and don't talk to people, don't take pictures and stuff. I'm very social. This guy is the biggest buyer.

What? I don't want to waste Dr. Phil's time.

Neither do I. Let's get serious.

Okay, but wait, I got a question, though, too. Dr. Phil, how annoyed do you get when you... Let's say you give Bob some advice, right? How upset do you get when you give all these people advice and it goes in one ear and out the other?

When I first started, seriously, I've been doing this for 45, 50 years. When I first started, it really bothered me. I mean, it was like a young lion. It was going to cure the world. I was in private practice, and I would talk to people and give them all this advice. I would lay awake at night worrying where they were going to do it or not. They're home sleeping like a baby. I'm worrying about it. And then I realized you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them float on their back. I mean, all you can do is tell them. And It's up to them. They're either going to do it or they're not. And people make changes when they're ready to make changes. And you can't do it for them. You can get them geared up for it. You can show them the path. You can give them the tools. But people are going to change when finally there's one element that they got to have. And until it's there, They're not going to change. And it's this. Until they look themselves in the mirror and say, I am so sick to death of your crap.

I am so sick to death of what you do every day that I would rather take the risk to make the change, go through the pain of making the change, deal with the fear of the unknown. I would rather do that than put up with what I'm living with until they get to that point, they're not going to make a change because it's a comfort zone.

Can we get a mirror in here for these guys? What would you feel is one of your greatest accomplishments ever, in your personal opinion?

One of my greatest accomplishments? Yeah.

What are you most proud of that you've done in your life?

Raised two healthy, happy, vibrant, successful boys that are good fathers and husbands and citizens and all with a lot of help from their mother.

That's a nice network TV answer. I wanted to ask real quick. Job joke. Job joke, of course. That's awesome. That's amazing.

Family is very important. Off that question, what do you think is the most common problem that people come to you for? Something you just noticed where it's like, this is a problem that so many people face today.

Fear and anxiety of something in their life. I mean, depression and anxiety is a thin line between it, but it's just pain and dissatisfaction in their life, but it expresses in a lot of different ways. But it's really fear, and sometimes that express is in depression, but it's just pain from life. It's real hard sometimes to deal with everything life throws at people, and they get overwhelmed. Sometimes that express is as stuck, sometimes it express is as panic, sometimes it express is a false sense of superiority. Where they come across as overconfident and all. But it all boils down to a fundamental fear of life.

Yeah. How do you combat that? How would someone combat that best?

Everybody has a personal truth. And what I mean by that is everybody, all of you, everybody standing here, me too, we all have a personal truth. It's something that we believe about ourselves when Nobody's looking, nobody's listening, no social mask. When we wake up at 3:00 in the morning and we're staring at the ceiling, it's what we believe about ourselves. That's so critically important because we generate the results in life we think we deserve. So if your personal truth is really damaged and you think like, I'm a piece of crap. I'm not as smart as everybody I'm not as talented as everybody else, and I'm not as good as everybody else, then you will generate results that match that belief. If you think you're second class, somehow or another, you'll sabotage yourself, and you'll generate results that go with that belief. And if you fix that belief to where you think, Hey, I really do deserve a good life. I really do deserve to have what I see other people having, peace, tranquility, success, or whatever, then you've got a chance to generate those results. But I can tell a lot about somebody just by watching them walk around.

And you can, too, if you think about it, you see people that don't broom themselves, that don't take care of their health. You'll see them walking down the sidewalk, head down, shuffling around like, Gosh, all I can do is get through the day. You've seen people like that.

So if you could give a read on everybody in this room right now looking at them, what would you say?

Well, I haven't seen much.

Based on what you've seen because he wants his answer.

We know a lot about you already.

We already know about me. I'm saying Kyle's obviously the stoic, hold himself together one. I'm a little wild. What would you think of him if you had to... What's your read?

On who?

On It's done, Steiny, because you just said that you can read people.

Well, he's performing right now.

Yes, sir. Thank you. I appreciate that. Let's go. What about...

I don't really know who he is right now because he's got a mask on.

Me and you can talk after.

What about Brad? Mr. Macho has to make a statement that he's the biggest guy here. I don't know if you saw, but when you got off the helicopter, he sized you up.

He is the biggest guy here.

Can I ask you a personal question?

Probably not, but you can try. All right.

How rich are you?

Yeah, that's what I said. Probably not.

Wait, I want to get back. I want to get back.

I want to ask, Are you rich?

Let's just make it here. He's got a lot more money than you. I got some money buried away from where I've been.

What guest stuck with you the most? What's one that was just super memorable.

It's not a guess, it's a category of guests, and that's kids, particularly young kids that don't really have a voice. Because I see a lot of kids that are three, four, five years old, that if they could, you know they would look at their parents and say, Would you people just shut up? Would you just sit down and shut up? I am so tired of listening to you bicker back and forth and pull me like a rope in this divorce and do drugs. I just The young kids that don't have a voice, I really feel for.

What about... Actually, this is a real question I want to ask you. What's your opinion on Adderall? Prescription drugs. I'm serious. Prescription drugs. Adderall. I'm saying kids. I think kids nowadays take that stuff.

I just don't get what his answer. How does that create that question?

Bob just came here to get advice from Dr. Phil, and he doesn't want to say it. You just want a one-on-one.

This is all. Anything he ask you is about himself.

If I wanted a one-on-one with Dr. Phil, how much does that run an an hour for the average person?

Is it like 250? No, let's not say the average.250 an hour?

You don't have that much money.

I got a better question. You're not the average person, by the way. Your issues are way deeper than the average. All right.

To your point, I I don't know how much somebody could come to you and ask. I totally understand.

Probably for you, 100 grand.

I can't afford that.

Let's stay on what he's talking about right now. To your point about children having to deal with, obviously, the circumstances because they can't just go, I have new parents tomorrow, right? How do kids find a way through Is it good to just go seek professional help? Because their parents, a lot of times, probably wouldn't even want to admit the fact that they're their parents, right? So how do you even navigate that as a kid?

Every guest that I have on the show that I've had on for 20 plus years is a teaching tool. You talk to the people that are there, you try to get through to them, but they're really a teaching tool for the millions of people that are watching that aren't there. And you I hope that somebody at home will say, Well, he isn't talking to me, but I do an awful lot of what that couple is doing. Man, I need to stop doing that. That's my hope, is that by having that couple there and using them as a teaching tool, these other people will go, God, that's embarrassing. I wonder if my kids are having the same response. Because I've had tens of thousands of letters that write in and say, They didn't get it, but I do. I saw myself in them, and they were hard-headed, and they didn't get it, but I got it. Thank you. I will change what I'm doing. I didn't realize. When I saw myself in her, I thought, Oh, my God, why don't you shut up? Yeah. Sometimes the worst guests that don't get it, there is just one ear and out the other, are the best teaching tools because people go, Oh, my God, I sound exactly like her.

And watching her, I realize how horrible I must be.

Let's talk about the parents, too, because you've dealt with about everybody. So how much have you learned from kids with messed-up situations on how to raise a kid? You've seen all these problems with the household?

How do we fix that?

To answer your question, and I'm not just saying this because it's a thing to say, I, honest to God, learn something every time I do a show. Something sticks with me that I use the next time. I've often said, I'm really fortunate in that I feel like everything I've ever done has prepared me for what I'm now doing, which wouldn't be the case if I spent five years selling shrimp out of a van down by the river. That wouldn't have really prepared me for what I'm now doing, but because I've always been in the same interacting with people, dealing with human functioning, it's all built on itself. I'll probably be the most competent the day I quit. That's always the way it is. You have the most experience the day you retire.

What dynamic or family situation have you seen causes the most issues? Is it single mother or?

The absence of two parents in the home is a big deal.

Honestly, it's the truth thing. Having daddy issues is a real thing for girls. I think either or. I'm not being a dad.

I think just single parents house It's a real question.

Yeah, having a single parents, that's the hardest job in the world. It is really tough because you can't do both jobs. You see You see single mothers that move a boyfriend in after so long. And the incidence of sex abuse or child abuse combined with a nonbiological male living in the home is 33 times normal. 33 times normal. It just goes hugely up.

Well, what have you noticed is the best? If there's two parents in the home, usually the kids are going to have to have better just social awareness and to have a-Better outcome. Yeah, a better outcome, or is that not always the case?

No, I do. I do think that having two parents in the home, you have better coverage. You have a male voice for boys, a female voice for girls, and a male voice for girls and female. Like my boys, I said, they grew up really well. I can think back to when they were in seventh, eighth, and ninth grade, and they were calling a girl to go to a school dance or something, their mother would come in there and say, Now, you call her the day of the dance and tell her how excited you are about... I would have never thought to them going here and call and tell her how excited you are every night. They go, Well, I'm not. I don't care if you are or not. You call her and tell her how excited you are. And then the morning after, call her and tell her what a great time you had. Well, it was boring. I didn't like it. Well, I don't care. You call her and tell her what a great time you had and how much you appreciate her. She taught them how to treat women.

With respect. With respect is what you do always. That's my biggest... I do not talk to anybody. Shut the fuck up, Steve. We saw your story the other night. Relax. Listen, I won't do business with anybody, and I won't hang with anybody if I see anybody be disrespectful to women. That's it. That's my biggest pet pee.

Bro, he blasted his actual-She deserved to be blasted.

That's a certain experience to do that. And stop bringing that shit up. That's subjective.

Everyone saw it. As you could tell, he's got the most problems out of everybody here.

I'm just the most excited to be here.

You have a read on this guy or no?

I think he needs more than just you, my friend.

I'm building a portfolio over here.

I got a question in regards to the idea... Not the idea, the fact about the family unit, how important it is for children in development.

Brad.

What's that? Go ahead. In regards to the world today, because it's somewhat of a mess, at least in Western society, as far as the family unit and the attack on it. Do you think that that's going to get better or worse because of social media? My personal opinion has gotten worse through social social media, but I want to hear your thoughts on that.

Thank you, Barbara Walters. We appreciate it. Back to you.

I think it's getting worse. I think social media is... Look, we know that being on social media so much interferes with quality time with the family. But not only that, it actually targets the mental health of the young people on it. The algorithm on social media is designed to attack the mental health of the young kids that are on it because the more upset they get, the more they click. That's a fact. The internal documents from the major companies has revealed that they know that, that it makes them anxious. And the more anxious they are, the more they click. You can show them a box of puppies, and they go, Oh, that's cute. And they click for a little bit. But if you show those puppies being abused, they'll click more. That makes them anxious. It makes them upset. But you can open an account with a young girl's name, and within three minutes, she's getting toxic content pumped her away. You can add two words to that name. Instead of just being Lauren, you can put Lauren lose weight. In the title. The amount of toxic content that's pumped towards her goes up 10 or 12 fold because the algorithm picks up, Oh, okay.

They start pumping her 400 calorie diet, 700-calorie diet, anorexic sites. Ozempic. Starts pumping all of this stuff into her account, which feeds her anxiety, makes her sick, because she keeps clicking more. They I know it makes her unhealthy, but she clicks more. So it's like, Well, we're going to make her unhealthy. We'll make more money. I think it's going to get better. So the algorithm just keeps going.

What's the solution to that then? People aren't going to stop using social media.

What do you think is the appropriate age that a kid should really be on social media?

I don't think they should get on there before they're 16 or 18 years old. If you're concerned about their mental health, they should not be on there at 13, 14, 15, 16.

But it's impossible to prevent, though. How do you prevent that as a parent from So the kids getting on there then?

You can start putting authentication on the sites, and parents can start being parents. Oh, all right.

That would have to come from a government regulation, right?

No, you don't need the government in your life.

But who's going to... The social media companies.

Parents can start being parents.

I would like, literally, if my kid... I would be a tough dad.

So you're saying the parents just don't let them use it till that age? Right.

And these companies need to be held accountable. You got 23% of the The population tweets or Xs, whatever you call, tweeting now. 40% are on Instagram, 60% are on Facebook. The public has power, they stop using that until they clean up what they're doing. There is market power. The population has power. If they just say, You clean it up or we're out. And I guarantee you they'll clean it up. But why? There's an awful lot of America that doesn't wield power, but they can. I mean, you saw what happened when they decide they don't like what the company is doing. They can boycott them, not buy their products and have a multibillion dollar impact in a matter of months. They can get the attention of those companies. They don't need the government to come and do it. That's true. If the government would stay the hell out of things, people would work it out.

It seems like, would you agree it's probably harder now than ever to be a parent in today's society?

It probably seems harder, but there's certainly more challenges now than there were in the '50s. There's more ways to have your child attacked and exploited.

It's crazy now, though, but parents are on social media, too.

Bro, it's so easy nowadays to cheat in school. I don't know, my age, with all this ChatGPT stuff.

I'm still the most entertaining fighter that's ever stepped in that octagon, and I think I will go down as that. What's up, guys?

Justin, the highlight, Gece here.

Current BMF title holder, soon to be Undisputed, 155-pound champ. Let's go. After fights, I take three or four weeks and really rest my body, rest my mind, and really get rejuvenated to really get back in there and work as as I need to. But outside of that, I like to play golf as much as possible, and I'm just getting my backyard done. So I'm super excited about this Happy Dad partnership so I can host my friends and family and have some drinks on some ice. It's official. Justin, the highlight, Gece, and Happy Dad Seltzer in the same camp, ready to defend this belt as the baddest motherfucking seltzer in the world. Let's go.

What's your policy on education and At the college level, too.

I think those are your questions, Stani.

What do you mean, my policy?

No, you agree, college is important, or it seems like people now are trying to... All these entrepreneurs are trying to bash, You don't need college. You can start your life earlier.

I've employed as many as a thousand people at a time in the past. And I always had a policy that if I had two people there that were matched in every way, age, intelligence, experience, and one had a a college degree and the other didn't. That was the only difference. I would tend to hire the one with a college degree because I knew something about them I didn't know about the other one. I knew they could set a long term goal. I knew they could get along with people and We worked together on projects. I knew they could get along with some jerk authority figure. You just knew things about them that you didn't know about somebody else. Maybe the other could, too, but you didn't know that. You knew that about a college graduate. I don't know that anymore. Because now you've got a generation of students that are thin-skinned. They whine if they get assignments they don't like. They go complain. We call them Little B. That's what it is. They go complain that, Well, I've been injured. I've been damaged. We've had more professors disciplined, suspended, or fired in this last generation than since the McCarthy era.

When everybody was a Red Skater. We've got colleges now that are teaching that they're not talking about toxic masculinity. They're talking about the fact that masculinity is toxic. They're teaching a quality of outcome instead of people learning how to compete and hustle and get out there and be entrepreneurial. We're turning out people, in my opinion, that are not qualified to survive in a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm concerned about that.

You talk a lot You've got that in your book, right? I do.

Do you think this is by design? Do you think it's on purpose?

Well, I think we have a disproportionate number of really liberal professors at universities that adhere to that mentality.

Why do you think- No, that's not only the participation.

Why do I think what?

Why are all those teachers liberal?

Well, I think they don't want to compete in the marketplace, so they go get a job where you don't have to compete. It's safe in the university environment. You used to go to the university. That's where you hear other points of view. Now they have what we call the heckler's veto. Somebody comes with a different point of view, you just yell and boo them down. Instead of listening to what they have to say, you might disagree with it. But instead of debating them or hearing it and then deciding you don't agree with it, they just protest and get them thrown off campus. What the hell is that all about? You're supposed to hear the other side and decide, Okay, I don't like that. Well, all right, but at least hear them out.

Why do you think it's happening? Why do you think it's happening?

Well, we're not teaching critical thinking. We're not teaching debate. We're not saying, Listen to the other side, weigh both sides and make up your mind. If you disagree, say so. But you got to hear them before you disagree. How do you know?

Is this all in your book? Is this in the book? It is. In the book? Okay. Where do I get the book? Because I don't read, but I'm going to read your book.

Amazon.

It's probably everywhere. Everywhere in the world.

Everywhere, books are sold.

When was that time?

Wait, hold on. No way you've ever read a book, Bob.

I talk a lot about meritocracy because I think this country was built on hard work. And now, the most fundamental principle of psychology is don't reward bad behavior, right? If you have a child throwing a tantrum in the floor at the grocery store because they want candy, you don't race up and go, Oh, great tantrum. Here's a piece of candy. You don't reward bad behavior. But we're doing that as a country. We're paying people not to work.

But we're also doing that on social media at In charge. So how is it-What other ways are we doing that?

Wait, what's an example of that where you were saying, How are we rewarding bad behavior?

Welfare. Attention.

Well, let's look at it this way. We don't even call felons felons anymore. We don't call rapists, rapists. We don't call murderers, murderers. They're now called justice-involved individuals. So we've got certain divisions of the Justice Department where you Your loved one wasn't murdered. They intersected with a justice-involved individual because we don't want to label that person and hurt their feelings. I was reading a story this weekend. Somebody's daughter was murdered, and the alleged perpetrator had 21 counts against them, nine felony assaults, and all of them, they were processed and released. This person was out under the no bail.

In what state was that?

And they killed him again.

Sounds like California.

Now, they say... I've seen now recently, they say unalived. Like someone will get killed and they say unalived. And it's like, dude, that guy was murdered. They're trying to change the entire narrative, almost.

Some of the colleges don't even have an admissions office anymore because it implies somebody could be rejected, and that would be negative to them. So they now call it Office of Enrollment Management.

Are they just trying to make everyone please.

I don't get it. Well, seriously, we're so overreacting. A lot of the colleges use trigger warnings. We're going to warn you if there's going to be something upsetting in this course. There's one that has a trigger warning for Romeo and Juliet. Trigger warning involves violence and suicide. Well, spoiler alert. That's a Shakespearean classic. It's been around forever. If nobody didn't already know it, you told them that there's going to be a suicide at the end. No more cliffhanger there. That's crazy. And here's the thing. Trigger warnings don't work. There's a whole body of literature that says, Trigger warnings don't work. These universities, they have access to the same research that I have access to that says, Trigger warnings don't work. So why are they using them if they have access to the same literature I do? Well, they're virtue signaling. They're saying, Hey, we're very sensitive over here, so we'll let you know if anything's going to upset you. The problem is the world doesn't use trigger warnings. You're not going to have somebody come up to you in the world and say, Hey, when you turn the next corner, it could be something there that upset you.

So we're just out here on the sidewalk letting people know. That's not how it works. So why do that in college? Why don't you teach them to go on red and stop on green and then give them the keys to a car? Because that's not the way the world works. You need to teach them how the world works, and we're not doing that.

Why do you think we're not doing that, though? Genuinen. Because I understand completely what you're saying. I think we all get it.

I think a lot of people nowadays that you talk to agree with that.

Yeah, it was like, What's going on?

Well, it's also like, do you think teachers have too much power to speak freely on topics they shouldn't?

Well, they're certainly getting away from the course outline if they're in there talking about all of these things like toxic masculinity in an art history community class. What the hell does that have to do with art history? But they have a captive audience, and they have their political agenda, so they're pushing it onto these students. I always wondered, if their idea is we're going to have a quality of outcome, then why am I spending a quarter million dollars to get an elite education? If everybody's going to have the same outcome, if the guy that sits a bean bag eating Cheetos all day is going to get the same outcome as somebody out here busting their Are there certain schools that do it better? Then why do I need to pay you for this elite education?

That seems hypocritical to me. Are there Are there schools that do it better, Dr. Phil? Are there certain schools that you can go to?

There are schools that do it better than others. Of course. But some of them that are really woke and run this agenda. I've seen Harvard says they're all about free speech, but they're not. They rated, I think, 252 out of 252 on free speech. They don't allow other viewpoints.

I've seen that with clips that go viral of a teacher, let's just say, for instance, in a middle school, there's a pride flag in a room, or she's talking about something and a parent shows up and they're like, Who are you to tell my kid or talk to my kid? That's something I should handle. So how do you fix that issue where the teachers are preaching to your kid about something that probably isn't even something they should discuss?

I mean, DeSantis passed something in Florida about that.

Well, you got to decide. Do you want to co-parent with some teacher, or do you want to raise your own child? And most of the teachers... Let me tell you, I think teachers are the most dedicated bunch of people you could ever find. They're underpaid and overworked. They don't want to do... Most of them just want to teach. It's the teachers unions that are running these agendas and pushing all this stuff into the curriculum and then trying to hide it from parents.

But do you think it's just the person by person, teacher by teacher, who's just because they're in that role, and then they're just pushing their political ideology through their class? Or do you think it's a reason for it?

No, I think it's the teachers unions.

What do you think about kids? I'm looking back when I was in college, too. There's so much pressure when you're 22 or 23 to have, What am I going to do the rest of my life? Everyone else is so successful. By 24, if I'm not successful, I'm a loser. Do you ever deal with people like that that just have no idea what they want to do in life in general?

I think a lot of people don't know what they want to do when they're 22 or 24. There's a phenomenon now called doomspenders. This is the first generation that they predict won't do as well as their parents. And they say they're not going to be able to afford a mortgage, not going to be able to get a house, not going to do as well as their parents. And so it's called doomspenders. Just say, What the hell? I might as well just blow it, just go spend my money and not worry about the future because I can't get there. There's no way to get there. So I'll just live for the moment. That's a pretty fatalistic point of view.

What's really changed, though? What's really changed to cause this? Because it wasn't like this. I feel like the Internet is a part of this.

Well, inflation is pretty bad. Yeah, obviously.

Do you You're a golfer?

I can't.

I can't. I start to feel like he's a golfer. Are you a golfer?

I have clubs. You don't play well? No, I don't play well. I play, but I don't play well.

Are you into pickleball? No. What do you do for fun outside of helping people with their lives?

I play tennis about 300 days a year.

So do I.

Yeah. So do I. How's your tennis game?

I'm consistent. I show up every day. That's important.

Is that your big talent is tennis in the athletic world?

Well, I enjoy it. I I enjoy playing.

Who's your favorite tennis player of all time?

I like Federer, and I like Jokowitch. Most people don't like him, but I like him, actually.

You watch sports? Yeah. What's your favorite sport to watch?

I like football.

Who's your team?

Well, I like the Cowboys. I like them every Sunday morning. I quit them every Sunday night.

What's the deal? Really, what's the deal with the Cowboys? How are they always the favorite? Everyone loves them, and they just...

Man.

Every year, they let everyone Every fan. God.

They have a great image.

Yeah. They do.

They're a fun team. They're America's team. They just fuck when crunch time comes.

They got a great talent. They got a great image. It's been a long time.

Do you ever work with high How many profile athletes do they ever call you? I know you probably can't name names or anything like that, but do you ever have high-profile people call you and ask you to sit down with them? Mm-hmm. Any one in particular?

No. After he says they can't name names.

He couldn't get them, folks.

We missed. Going off that, does it bother you ever that people, instead of wanting to just be your friend or talk about other stuff, they just come to you only for advice about their life?

No. I have people contact me, and I always tell them, Look, I don't do that. I don't work with people one-on-one anymore. And I tell them, Look, I'll talk to you one time to figure out what I think you need, and I'll direct you to the right resource. And that's what I do. But I don't take anybody on and work them through a problem. Sometimes, it's pretty simple.

We should play a tennis match, me versus you. And then winner, if I win, I get three hours of counseling. And then if you win, I don't know what I can offer Dr. Phil, but what would you want if I be- Probably not a whole lot. What would you want if I be? What? Because I know I would smoke Dr. Phil in tennis. I don't even think you want to entertain that, right?

The same basketball jersey?

Yeah, I would smoke Dr. Phil in tennis.

Yeah, you think so?

I think so. I don't think so, bro. I don't play as much as you. 300 days, that's a lot. I'll probably dust you. Yeah, I don't know. It'll be a good match.

If you ever wanted- I'm twice your age. You'd have to give me some We'd handicap it a little bit. Yeah, we'd tie a chair to your leg or something.

I think you start at like 30 love every game.

I'll sell 100,000 copies of your book if you beat me. I won't stop until I... How are you going to do that? I'll figure away, Stani. Stay out of this. This is my negotiation with Dr. Phil.

That's a huge promise, 100,000 copies.

What was it like working What's your relationship with Oprah back in the day?

Oprah's great. She's really great. We've been friends for 35 years now, I guess. People ask me sometimes if she's as nice as she seems. I always say, No, she's nicer. Television's not big enough to capture her. She's really the real deal.

How did that relationship start? You were a psychologist for a defense for her, right?

Yeah, she got sued up in Amarillo for a mad cow case. Okay. I was on her defense team.

Is that what got you into the show business?

Yeah, I had no designs on being on television at all.

Why do you think people talk to you so much?

I think that people know the truth when they hear it. Don't you think? Absolutely. I mean, if somebody's got a problem with their health or got a bad diagnosis or something, people come by and pat them on the hand. Oh, you're going to be fine. You'll be okay. Fake. If somebody comes along and says, Okay, look, let's figure this out here. It's either A or it's B or it's C. If it's A, we're going to do this. If it's B, we'll do this. If it's C, we'll do this. I'll help you navigate it one way or the other. So it is what it is, and we'll do what we have to do. So let's just wrap our head around it and walk through it. They hear that, the rest of it's noise. They say, Okay, this guy's telling me the truth, and I hear it, and they value that. They don't value the, Oh, you'll be fine, honey. That's an insult. And I think people are that way in general. If somebody tells them the truth, whether it's what they want to hear or not, they find that refreshing in a world full of open.

And I think that's what happened when I went on the air. I told people the truth. And it was shocking a bit, but I think they found it refreshing. It was like, Here's somebody that's not Hollywood. They're not pandering to the camera. They're not trying to be political. They're just telling you the truth. And I told Oprah that the first time I went on. I said, Look, I'll come do what I do. If you can cut up in a television, that's fine. If you can't. I was busy when I got here. If people like it, that's fine. If they don't, I could care less. It doesn't make any difference to me.

Do people come up to you a lot in public? Yeah. Do you like it or hate it?

Well, I'm very appreciative of people that are supportive. I hate people that work, work, work, work, work to get known or get followers and then act like they're too good to talk to them. Oh, really?

Prime example. Sorry, go back to you, Dr. Phil.

Whose thing?

Yeah, he's the worst thing.

I've always appreciated that.

I've always appreciated that. But who the fuck are you? Go ahead.

I've never done that one time.

I've always appreciated that.

Most people are very respectful.

Obviously, you've affected a lot of people's lives, and you've changed a lot of people's lives. Do you have one certain scenario that really hit home for you, or it was like, whoa, what I was able to accomplish with someone who was really beat up and change their lives?

I just try to put people on the path. And then I've seen people do amazing things, but it's them that does it, not me. The work starts after they leave me. I just point them in the right direction.

If you had to guess what % of people actually take what you give them and go with it.

Well, I think a lot. I think by the time people get to me, they're really ready. No, they're really ready.

You watch movies?

Sometimes.

Yeah. Have you ever seen Roadhouse?

Oh, yeah.

You've seen Roadhouse, the movie? Yeah. The new one?

Oh, I saw part of that.

No, there's the old one. What do you mean, you saw part? Why? You only saw part of Roadhouse?

The remake was not as good as the classic.

You've never seen the New Roadhouse movie? It broke all records on Amazon.

The remake, I don't know.

The classic was a lot better. Going back to what he's talking about because he had a scene in the New Roadhouse movie on Amazon Prime. How important it to stay humble and really just have that gratitude and appreciate stuff? Because recently, he was in a movie with Jake Jones Hall, and he won't stop talking about it.

It's called Marketing the Movie. It's called Marketing the Movie.

No, but I mean, how important is that to just stay humble and keep appreciating your success, what you've been able to accomplish?

Well, my experience has been, if you're not humble, somebody will humble you. I think it's easier to just stay there so you don't get put there.

You think you could humble him really quick?

Because I think you're doing a pretty good job.

Yeah, he's doing a great job. Have Steiny humble me. See what happens.

Have you seen all this weird stuff coming out about what was going on behind the scenes of Nickelodeon?

Yeah, I've seen some of it, but I've never really watched Nickelodeon, so I didn't know a lot of those people or the alleged abusers either.

You got a little cocktail there. Is it a cocktail? What's that? Is that a cocktail?

That's Iced tea.

What Going off with- I was going to say, I thought we were turning up with Dr.

Phil a little bit here.

One thing going off with Kyle just said, obviously, there's a lot of shit going on about a bunch of things. Is this something like... I mean, you just see all this sexual activity, all this stuff. Is this something that you think happens when people get that power and that money and that access? Or do they have that with them?

Well, sexual abuse is always about power. It's never about sex.

What I'm trying to say is, are these people completely fucked up before? They acquire that success and they're around all these people, or does that just happen once you get to that level?

Well, that's a pretty broad question. I think you have to answer it on a case-by-case basis. But there's always a power factor involved. Always. I mean, rape is always about power, not sex. It's always about power. Yeah.

So what I'm trying to say is you think once they get to that point, that's when it really kicks in, and it's more of a power trip type situation.

Yeah, I do.

Solid question It's serious.

It's serious. It's serious. You are hearing a lot of shit going on right now.

I think it's fucking awful. Like P. Diddy is going through right now. That's a huge thing.

How tapped in are you with all the stuff that's happening in the world on social media? Are you watching this stuff Daily? Are you trying to learn from it?

Unless it gets put on my radar in some way, I don't deep dive on all that stuff unless it gets on my radar. And by get on my radar, I mean, if lawyers, victims, or perpetrators contact me to get involved in some way, which is not unusual to be involved in something like that, then I study it and find out what's going on. But I certainly don't... My research is not social media. I find out... I go to the court, I get the pleading, so I find out what's going on. I sure don't find out from social media because who knows? What's true? Oh, my God.

You can't even tell what's real or fake anymore.

No, you really can't. I saw an ad the other day where I was selling on the product. Where you were selling the product? Yeah, it was me holding the product, selling it, talking about it, never seen it, never heard of it, nothing. What the fuck?

But it was- Immediately cease and desist, right?

Oh. Immediately. Please go out.

You Dozen to a month. You don't f with Dr. Phil. Everybody looked at this camera right now.

I set out dozens of these things a month. Usually, it's just ads that's got my picture in it selling some something. But this was a deep fake with voice and- The The worst. Everything. The worst.

Now they have the AI voices. Yeah.

But there's no preventing that, right? There's no preventing. And that's just going that way.

As soon as you go after them, they'll shut down. Just open it in. They'll pop up across the street with a new corporate name. Different product or same product. It's like playing Whac-A-Mole.

That's a good game. You ever play Whac-amole? That's actually a good game. That used to be my go-to game. What the fuck is going on? What do you mean?

You're so random right now. It's on purpose?

How many times have you been faced with this situation? Have you been? And how many times have you been faced with this situation where you're just like, I don't know what to do here?

It's happening right now.

Besides Bob.

You get situations where you realize that there's no good way out of a bad situation. I mean, sometimes you just can't, particularly if you've got somebody that has organically-based psychosis or something. There's nothing you can do about it. Yeah.

So do you let them know? This is low-key call We've Got Issues.

What's organically-based psychosis?

Well, if you've got somebody that's got brain damage and they're neurotransmitters are all scrambled up. Shut the fuck up.

Not you, Dr. Phil. I didn't tell you to show the fuck to Kyle. I'm going to actually... We've Got Issues. How long has this book been out for? You should read that. I swear in my life, I'm going to read this.

That's a real wager. If you could go page to end on that book.

I'm going to read this out of respect for Dr. Phil coming in here because I know Dr. Phil took time out of his busy schedule to come and be here. This is one thing I'm going to do. I always do something special for my guests.

Yeah, that's 104,000 words.

Number one, New York Times best-selling author. So what's the process of writing a book? You're not sitting there typing in a typewriter at night, obviously. So you relay it. Because they think a lot of people want to write books nowadays, right? You always want to write a book. What's the process of writing a book like this? Who's your team? How does this get done?

I write every word in every book I've ever done.

Wow.

And how many books have you put out now?

Ten.

Which one's your favorite?

That one's probably my favorite. Second is called Self Matters. Third would be life code.

That's pretty sick. Do you ever think there's going to be a time in your life where you're just going to be over all this? Just want to focus more on yourself and other people's problems?

Yeah, I'm sure that time's coming. But I can't I can't see retiring. I think I would go- You're never leaving the game.

That's the question, right? What are you going to do if you retire?

He's going to go play tennis every day.

I love ice cream, but I wouldn't want to have it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So if you retire and play golf and tennis or something, it's like, Oh, man. I think I'd get so bored of that in a fast hurry. I got to have a challenge, something to go do.

Well, I got a challenge for you. So Steiny over here has trouble picking up women. It's plain and simple, and I'm not going to say this, too. He is the worst at picking up women. I'm very good at it. How are you? Off of what basis is he? What do you think, Dr. Phil, for a guy like him because he's obviously, if you look at him-You scare a lot of chicks. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I think the main thing is just confidence. Bring it over, please.

I like, oh, yes. The-oh, audiobook. No, no, no. Hold on here.

Let me just finish on this before I get There's an audio book version of Dr. Phil's.

There is an audio version.

That's good for cardio sessions.

Actually, that's better. I would rather listen. That's an easier way to do this. That's the only way you do it. That's the only way I would do it. The audio version is the only way I would do it. That's the way I would do it. Okay, cool. Back to Steiny, do you have any advice for him, Dr. Phil, being an expert of where you're at? Since I watch him on the daily go up to all these girls, he fails every single time. I see him walk around like this.

We'll just say for the general guy because I don't have that issue, but we'll just say for-For that man right there.

Any advice how to pick up women?

Well, you understand I haven't been on a date with a new girl in 51 years.

Well, here's a better question. You did receive?

Wow, you guys have so many comments.

Wait, hold on. I actually took his ex out recently But really quick, how do you know when you find the right girl?

Oh, you know.

Yeah, you know. You just know right away?

Yeah, you know. You feel right.

Then I guess I'm not there. I have a legit question.

All right.

Obviously, after talking to you for some time now, it's clear your ideologies around meritocracy and how you focus and shift and change your life and structure your life. Who taught you that? Was it just through all your experiences? Yeah, read this. Did you have a strong... Parencial figures in your life that made you this way How did you... What do you attribute your success to in that?

Well, I grew up really poor. I mean, really poor. When you grow up poor, you're really results-oriented. Because when you grow up poor, if you don't work today and get paid today- You don't eat. Then you don't eat today. When you grow up that way and realize if you don't do some work and get paid for it today, you're not going to eat today. If you spend time homeless on the street where you don't have anywhere to live, then you realize if you want to create shelter, you better find some work to pay somebody to let you stay somewhere. That puts a pretty good work work ethic in you at a real fast hurry. And my dad was a real bad alcoholic, and our house was really chaotic. And so you become really self-sufficient at a very early age. And so I threw paper routes and had jobs from the time I was 12 or 13 years old because I had I had to because you get hungry. I had to contribute to the family. I had sisters and a mother and stuff, so I had to work to put money on the table so people could eat.

We didn't have utilities and stuff on in the house some of the time and all. So you just realize there's no victim. It's not like you go say I'm a victim. Nobody gives a gift if you're a victim or not, you get what you get. It's just that simple. I agree. You don't want anybody to give me anything, so I go out and create whatever I create.

What's the biggest advice you'd give that kid now, knowing what you know now?

The landscape is so different now.

But people love to play victim nowadays.

That's the biggest problem. Listen, nobody wants to hear your whining. I don't care what they say to your face. You got to do what you got to do. At the time, you don't realize that you don't walk around saying, Oh, I'm poor. At the time, you just do what you do. You don't walk around thinking, I'm the poor kid. You just do what you do. You look back later and realize you were the poorest kid in the block or the poorest kid in the school. But at the time, you're just living. You're just getting by. You don't have time to think about that. Now, that's all people do is think about that. How can I be a victim? And how can I get I get somebody to come in and give me money, take care of me, do whatever? People that sit around and think about how they can create some new victimhood. Poor doesn't scare me. I've done poor. I know how to do poor. So it's never scared me. And so I've never played the game with sweaty palms. So I get in business or get in a business deal, I don't get nervous about it because I don't worry about it because it'll work, it won't work.

Because being the victim and escape for wanting to put in hard work is an excuse.

It's an excuse. It's like you want the government to come in and take care of you, but anybody to take care of you. That's a myth. Old sayings get to be old sayings because they're profound, like a stitch in time, save nine, all that. That old saying, there's no free lunch. Let me tell you, the government comes in and puts people on assistance and that does this and does that. That's not a free lunch because it steals people's self-esteem. It steals their self-worth. It steals their initiative, and it steals their future. That is not a free lunch. It's very expensive to depend on the government.

Yeah. They know a lot of shit. What about aliens? Do you think aliens exist? I'm switching subjects. I want to know Dr. Phil's take because I feel like he's low-key connected. You believe in aliens? No. You When he stares at me like that-It is good.

It is wild, though.

That's a good stare down.

Do you have any... Wait, let's see. Do you want to ask an educated question real quick?

Let's get one. I think he gets to ask educated questions every day. That's what he's done for the last three. I think it's fun sometimes to switch it up a little bit and let's ask some different questions.

Okay, go ahead. Go one more.

I just think that I was... Would you go to space?

I like that question. I'm not going to lie.

Do you, Brad? I like that one.

Would you go to space? I wouldn't do one of these things where you go up for four minutes and come back down. Have people done that? The risk-reward ratio is not there.

You'd want to go up there and chill for a little bit.

I'm going to go. You're going to vibe. I'm going to go to the space station or something and spend some time to be able to experience it. But I'd rather go on a roller coaster than just go up and come back down.

You like roller coaches?

The risk-reward ratio is not there.

You like roller coaches? No.

They're okay, but I just soon do that is go blast up and come right back down.

But if you go to a theme park, are you going on a roller coaster.

Sure.

Okay. So what are some of your personal biggest fears?

Something happened to one of my kids.

What's yours?

That's deep.

Yeah, when we go around.

Mine's like sharks. You go ahead and you actually tackle that one first.

Sharks are terrifying.

I'm scared of sharks.

You live in Miami.

I know. Well, I don't go deep. I go in, but I don't go super, super deep.

Well, you've seen their fin.

I've never seen a fin. If I've seen a fin, I'd show myself.

Bro, we did nine days I deserted myself nine days on an island with my buddy to catch a great white shark. What's your biggest? My biggest fear?

Someone's banging your girl. Someone's banging your girl. We all know that.

I'm probably 20 years in state prison. That'd be pretty bad.

Okay, jail is a big fear of mine, too.

20 years in state prison. Jailfederal is probably not federal. Not federal. Federal is easier.

I think probably a common one for normal people is just being a failure in life. Would you agree with that?

I think that was his fear. That's why he said it that way. That's good.

Well, the number one fear among all people is failure. Yeah. There's sentence for that, like rejection or whatever. But rejection is failure. It means the world doesn't want what you want. So that's rejection. That's failure. If your business fails, it means the world rejected what you had to offer.

What's the scariest thing you've ever done in your life? I chased tornadoes, but back to you.

You've never done that.

I've chased multiple.

I think the better question is-I asked Dr.

Phil.

What's the biggest risk you've ever taken?

Well, those are two questions. What's the scariest thing I've ever done? Exactly.

Thank you, Steiny. Sorry. What is the scariest thing you've ever done?

Walked one of my sons into surgery for something they didn't know what was, and they thought it could be something really, really bad.

Did it end up all right? Yeah. Good. It's good to hear. Yeah, that's scary. That counts. What's your biggest bet?

Not being able to do 225?

Yeah, not being able to do 225 for reps on the bench, I think. I'm being really honest.

Steiny What's your biggest fear?

Not being able to bench 225. For reps? Two plates.

At some point, I'll probably have to face that. Not a long time, though.

Steiny, having a girl while you're laying down on the bed for the first time last week.

Why is 225 important to you?

Why is 225? It's amazing. No, I love it. It's like a benchmark for being a solid gym bro.

Two plates?

Two plates. Even just for one, for most guys. Have you done it?

Yes, Stani? 225? No, I did 185 with you once. Yeah, it's good.

You work out?

Yeah, I did that in college a lot.

Did you ever bench 225 for reps? I'm actually really curious. I believe that. You're actually bigger than I thought you were going to be. I'm not going to lie.

When I was in college, my arms were a half inch bigger than my neck. Really? Yeah.

Were you a gym bro?

I was a linebacker. That's close.

Oklahoma drill.

Oklahoma drill.

We got to be high up right now. Oklahoma drill, I think.

Do you have Do you have a biggest regret in life, if any?

Not yet.

Not yet.

What about do you pay attention to the March Madness?

I haven't this year. I usually do, but I haven't this year because I'm starting a network, and it's been a little time consuming.

What are you excited for about the old show compared to the new network?

Yeah, prime time.

I'm really proud of the 21 years we did.

Amazing job. I really am.

I'm really proud of my relationship with CBS. We're still in business together. They're running a lot of my library episodes again for another year. They did last year, and they're doing again this next year. I've got one of the top dramas on in their primetime lineup. So help me, Todd, is on in primetime. And we got another one about to start. But I was on an hour a I mean, an hour a day, five days a week. And now I've got 24 hours a day, seven days a week as a network. I've got four hours of news that I can communicate through. I'm not going to be an anchor on the news, but I can communicate through the news. My show's on in primetimes, so I can speak to a broader section of the audience because most everybody's home from work.

Where can people watch?

You can go to merrittstreetmedia. Com, and there's a button there that says channel Finder. You hit that and then put in your zip code. It lists every way you can look where you can watch it.

Oh, so it's a whole network. You're going to have different shows on your network now.

Yeah. We've got other talent involved.

That's a whole different business now. Yeah.

Steve Harvey is on the network. Oh, wow. Nancy Grace is on the network, and Bear Grylls is on the network, and Mike Row, and Chris Harrison.

Nancy Grace is aggressive. She's an aggressive.

We should get a show on Mary's birthday.

Yeah, we'll put you on there.

Is it all news-orientated or is it like lifestyle?

No, there's entertainment, lifestyle. There's all different kinds of things on there. It's news and entertainment. It's essential news and entertainment. We want to make television you can use. Things that impact your life.

Do you invest a lot in different projects outside of television? What's one that's a hit?

We've done okay.

This is completely random, but what music do you listen to?

I think everything's been random in this thing so far.

What's your favorite band of all time?

Well, I'm an oldies guy.

So it's like the Stones?

Yeah, I like Stones. I like the Temptations. I like the Four Tops. I like the Jonas Brothers.

Jonas Brothers. That's a random one.

I didn't see that coming.

They're amazing.

What's your track, Brandon I like all of it.

I like their really early songs.

I like their- Like Camp Rock? Yeah.

I was much younger then, but I love that. I love their songs now.

You ever Bumble a Lil Durk? What? Lil Durk?

No.

I like Lil Durk. No. There's all these new generation rappers now. It's fine, dude. Because of all the... Everybody's a rapper now.

Well, I have a question. For you. If you could change one thing in 2024, what would it be?

Brad, you start because you probably have a long time.

That's a big question.

How much more time do you have before Brad goes? It's going to be two or three minutes.

That's funny. That's good.

I would just say for people to just get along more, probably.

For you personally, though.

I'd say not to be so impulsive. That would be mine. Not to be so impulsive.

I mean, dude, I think it It comes down to the same thing you were saying earlier about just feeling like I'm good enough about myself, just being good enough. And in a lot of circumstances, right? Because there's just certain times when it's like, I wish I had done things differently. I wish I had acted or had a conversation before it was a problem. I think just generally, just being more open to that conversation before it becomes a bigger problem.

That's a great answer, brother. The question was, honestly, for people, is just focus on yourself, believe in yourself, and don't give a fuck about other people, what they think about you.

I thought you meant specifically for ourselves.

I mean it any way you want to answer. Okay.

Go ahead, Bob. I already did. Impulse, not make late night 4:00 AM posts and going wild.

What about you?

The book I've written, We've Got Issues, is really a book about unification because I list in there 10 things that I I think are important for a healthy society, because I think we forget that we're all Americans. Everybody's so divided. I'm really proud of this country. I'm proud to be an American. Oh, yeah. People forget that. We're all Americans. I spent a lot of time in the litigation arena. Like you said, that's how I met Oprah. I always tell people, if If I'm negotiating with somebody, the first thing I do, I even say this to teenagers, is to negotiate with their parents for a different curfew or something, or if you're negotiating country to country or whatever, First thing you should always do, sit down and say, Let's make a list of everything we agree on first, and then we can talk about things we don't agree on. People don't do that enough. It's true. I mean, if you first say, What's our common ground? We wouldn't be nearly as divided as we are right now. Think about what do we agree on.

I think the media amplifies that.

They do because it sells tickets. But if you think about it, we all want a solid America, right? We all want a solid country. We want a prosperous country. We want a safe country. We want a better country for our kids. You think about it, we all want so many of the same things. We want everybody to be prosperous. We want everybody to be secure. We want all of that. The only things we disagree about, pretty much, are how. We all want the same things. It's just what's the best way to get there. People, they spend so much time picking at differences instead of focusing on what we agree on. I want everybody to do well.

I have to tell you, it's actually funny you say that. We did Dana recently, Dana White, and he said that-Yeah, I know Dana.

He's a great guy. Of course. He's wonderful.

The biggest problem is people are now afraid to be proud to be an American.

I say it. The first page of the book, I say, I love this country. I stand up when the flag goes by. I put my hand over my heart when the national anthem plays. I love this country. I'm tired of people apologizing for it.

Why do you think people are afraid to stand up and be proud to be an American now?

Because it gets criticized by so many people that find something wrong and say, We should be ashamed of this. I love in this country enough to say that we do have issues. Of course we do. We don't have equal opportunity for everybody. We don't. We should work harder to make that happen, for sure. I don't care if you start out in third base, dugout, or dumpster. We all have to work to get where we're going. We should work to try to level that playing field. I agree with that 100%. We do have problems. We do have inequities in this country, and we should work to make them better. That doesn't mean I don't love this country. If I got a hill to climb, I'd damn sure rather climb it in America than anywhere else.

You should run for office. Hell, yeah. Have you ever thought about it? No.

No.

All right. I don't want to run for office. I can have bigger impact from the outside in than the inside out.

Well, I'd vote for you.

Bob, you could be his VP.

I got that. I got to unlock. I got to unlock. I might not... Yeah, I don't think you want me as a VP.

All right. Choose different. But I would take your vote if I ran, which I won't.

And you would have it, sir.

You can't vote for me because I won't run, but you can tell everybody to watch Merritt Street Media because we talk... Our first show, which airs tomorrow, is about all this anti-Semitism on the campuses. I mean, I heard stuff I hadn't heard since the Nazi youth camps. What the hell is that about? Crazy. Really?

It's terrible. What time does it air at?

8:00, 7:00 Central.

What else is coming up? On it?

What else is coming up on it?

A lot of different stuff, I guess.

Yeah, we do. We go to the border. We're actually spending tax dollars to traffic children to known prostitution. We're taking kids at the border and sending them to locations that we know are known prostitution centers.

What? The reason you're doing that is to bring- Wait, the immigrants are coming in?

Yeah. Then We're deporting them or we're taking them to like, six, three cities?

They come in, they've got numbers and addresses written on them. We call it and say, Are you expecting this child? They say, Yes. That's awful. We know that they're sending them into prostitution. The penalty should be just gone to the head right away.

So are we sending them to wherever's on their arm or they're taking a bus and sending everyone to one place?

No, we're sending them to where it was written on their arm.

That's very awful. Hold on, though. Why would there be things being written on They're in their arms?

Because whoever sent them there- The cartel is sending them up. They're selling them into these prostitution rings and sweatshops. I asked the head of the union down there, I said, Is it possible that we're sending these children into harm's way, that we're sending them into prostitution or sweatshops. And he said, Oh, it's not possible. It's absolute for certain that we are. And I said, Wait a minute. This is on camera.

This is a border agent? Yeah.

He said, You know it's the head of the border agent union. You know there's a camera right here, right? He said, Yeah. I said, Okay. You're telling me for certain we know we're sending there? He said, Yes. I said, How under any theory is it okay that we're using our tax dollars to send these innocent children into this known prostitution? And he said, Well, we're doing what we can. I said, Why have you never talked about this? Well, nobody's ever asked me that specific question, and I'm grateful for you asking.

What the fuck? So the orders are coming from somewhere else then or something. Is that so? Why is he allowing that?

He doesn't have any choice.

Then who's the command of the orders coming from?

White House. What the fuck are you doing, President? I asked him, What do you need? And he said, We don't need more agents. We don't need more money. We don't We need more laws. We just need to be allowed to enforce the ones that are on the books now. That's crazy. We don't need more money. Agents are laws.

Why are they not being allowed to do that currently?

Because they were all pulled back that they took office.

Is the border the worst it's ever been, ever?

Statistically, yes.

So it's a party issue.

What's your fix for that? Do you think people are just not... The general population is just not accepting that we have to have a border?

Well, I'm very pro-immigration. Look, We need immigrants in this country.

What's the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

I look at America as our home, right? I think if it is my home, I wouldn't want somebody coming in my home if I didn't know who they were. If I I didn't know what their intentions were. I want to know who's coming and why. And we don't. Between 2010 and 2020, we had Like 1100 Chinese come across the border. In 2023, the first 11 months, we had close to 30,000. Now, why? I think a lot of them are maybe coming to escape the oppressive government in China, and they want to come here where there's freedom. I think some of them who are military-aged are being sent here by China, and we're processing them and letting them go, and we have no idea where they're going or what they're doing. I think we should know.

And we will know because you got that thing going on. That's pretty cool. That's awesome. You bring an awareness to that.

We didn't even get into China.

Afghanistan is a big thing. It's like, What's going on there? Nobody even talks about that anymore, but I'm not getting to that.

So these are the things we're talking about that other people aren't talking about, and we're talking about them through the eyes of the people being impacted by them.

Wow, I want to watch that border one.

When does that come out? It's this week.

Okay. I'm going to watch that for sure.

100%. They're buying up farmland, and they're buying it up around our military installations.

I just I don't see what the point would... Why would our government allow that to happen? It just doesn't make any sense.

Are you ever scared about pushing that narrative? Might have any effect on... Because you're pushing a narrative that probably obviously works against the other side. Are you ever worried about that? Just being sniped in the middle of your sleep or something like that?

It is controversial. But somebody's got to talk about this stuff. One of those somebody's is going to be me.

Do you believe that as much as people talk about it, people that do push that narrative that goes against the other side, that bad things happen to them out of nowhere and they disappear?

Well, that's a run-on sentence.

I don't have the best grammar.

I mean, that's two questions. It's like, do I ever worry about it? And then do people disappear? I do worry about it. I asked two part questions. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to necessarily disappear, but I do worry about it, and I'm cognizant of it. I've had pushback because of it.

Where does the pushback come from? A call from a scary person?

You get people- When you're on a TV network, it's probably a lot. Yeah. You have people that hate on you on the Internet. You have threats and stuff like that, but you deal with it. You either You're either controlled by that or you continue to do what you believe in. I believe in this country, and I believe we need to talk about things that need to be talked about. So I'm doing that. So you just maintain security and move on.

So you don't answer your own DMs? Or do you sometimes like- No, I actually think I love the fact that you're actually able to not be afraid to say what you feel.

I think too many people are being killed these days, and it's a serious problem.

Why don't you take a stand for it? It was your thing.

The border needs to be under control. Like I said, I'm very pro-immigration. I just think we need this right way and the wrong way to do it.

Tighten up a little bit.

Every country needs a border, right?

Yeah, or you're not a country.

It's not rocket science.

Yeah. If you don't have a border, you're not a country. You're just a hallway. Yeah.

That was what my old girlfriend was there.

That's a whole three-hour topic.

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.

Can you give us all analysis?

The Dr. Phil and I are good. Don't worry about it. Relax. We're going out tonight. Me and Dr. Phil are going out tonight in bottle blonde or whatever it is. Let him finish with the final-We're going to go do some bottles.

It's on Monday, bro. Let him finish the final assessment.

Do you ever read at this point after spending time with us on-Please.

He's not Dumbledore.

Neither are you.

Actually, I was earlier.

I got met with that. I think you're a very willing spirit to have worn this.

No, I just honor my bets. That's it. I honor my bets. It sucks. But the thing is this, I got to talk to you real quick about it. Truthfully, do you know Daniel Radcliffe? No. I've been trying to get Daniel Radcliffe low-key stalking that guy. But the problem is I've been calling him Harry Potter the whole time. I've been calling his publicist, all his guys, and they've seen it, and they're like, Well, first of all, he does not appreciate you calling him Harry Potter. He's Daniel Radcliffe.

He should say, Sorry. Start with that. Say sorry to him and then maybe-I'm not saying anything to Daniel Radcliffe.

I'm not saying anything because he's been disrespectful. I tell you what, I know he's got a little show coming up on Broadway. You might just pull up to that. Let's just say that show will be boycotted so fast unless he comes in there. That show will-That's before I've seen it.

When is it?

Actually, if I have a Dr. Phil come with me, we'd be like, low key. I think if Dr. Phil sitting next to me at Radcliffe's show, I might be able to go, Dr. Phil, can you make one for me to call to Daniel Radcliffe for me? Because I'm not going to I'm going to everybody. I'm going through my CIA guys. I'm going to my government guys. I'm trying to scare this guy. I'm getting him audited by the IRS. I'm doing everything I can to get him. He ain't budging.

I think if Bob sells 100,000 copies of your book, then you got to go to the-Yeah, I'll do that in 24 hours. Yeah.

Would it help if he zoomed in? Would that work? No.

Ever since Harry Potter, this guy thinks he's this big deal. But you know?

He's a big deal.

I know he is. I'll be at every show in New York City, every Broadway show. Front row and center. And buying backstage passes.

Yeah. Well, I'll say this. Daniel, these are good-spirited guys. They're just here to have fun. And obviously, you're important them. So maybe you can throw them a bone.Thank you.Let's go.

That's awesome.

Maybe you can throw them a bone. I can tell you, I enjoyed it and had a great time. I think you would, too.I.

Think that might just get it done.Doctor Phil.Doctor.

Phil.thank you.Thank you.That.

Was awesome. Great talk, Doc. That was amazing. Thank you.

It was crazy. Yeah, that was...I'm going to turn it up.

I'm like, Whoa..