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Let's get into the pot.

I mean, before we When we get started, maybe we should talk about how this all came together.

Is he trying to get credit for bringing a guest on? Is that a thing? No. He's doing new Bob Mender. He's doing new Bob Mender.

That's crazy.

How much you want for that? Did you pay him for that?

This is crazy. We're rolling?

I thought we were just chopping it up. Okay.

No. Okay.

Well, you can tell a story anyway. Okay.

This guy's jokes. Well, Janksy just told me he's been watching now since 200K, so I think that had something to do with it.

I thought Stani was funny as because of the Dana pod. I was like, This is the funniest I've ever seen. It was Dana Bob, Steiny, Kyle, right? Yeah.

Was anybody there? No.

I was like, Dude, this guy's funny as fuck. Then I saw the Andrew Shoals pod.

What do you think about that one?

I was like, That's the most I've ever laughed in two hours. Then I was like, This Steiny guy's pretty funny. I followed him on Twitter and he's like, Bro, you should do the full send pod. Then I was like, Oh, yeah, that's fucking sick because I've been watching Nelk since 200K subs. That's sick. You, Lucas, Jessie, when you guys were crashing at fans' houses. That's sick. I was like, This is so dope. Because the era of YouTube before that with pranks, and you know better than anybody, it was all fake.

It was a lot of fake. It was 99% fake.

When Nelk came around, people appreciated. These are real funny pranks. People are actually getting pissed. And people are going to appreciate that because they're so used to watching fake.

We just started doing shit that couldn't be faked.Yeah.

Exactly.that was our strategy. That's why Nel just blew up. That's it. When Steiny asked me that, I was like, Bro, fuck, yeah. That's it.

Now you're the Are you officially the number one streamer on Twitch?

Right now in the last two months, yeah.

That's fucking crazy.

How does that feel?

I mean, no different.

You're pretty humble, bro.

No different than being number two or number three. It's just like...

No, it's not. It's completely different.

Dude, I still I wake up in the same bed. I don't know. Nothing changes after that. It's just like, I like doing it.

But your cost is a tiny bit bigger when you're number one compared to number two and three.

A hundred %. No. It adds at least two.

The morning wood just hits a little bit different.

No, I still have an average penis, average house, average car. I drive a Honda Accord.

You live with the parents, right?

Yeah, I live with my mom, my brother, my cousin. Because you were asking me about that earlier or a couple of days ago. Dude, to me, family is all you really have in You can have money or fame or whatever. But at the end of the day, all that really matters is the people you truly care about. So, dude, I'm 22, bro. I have my whole life to go fuck off and live by myself. I may as well spend as much time with my mom and dad while I can. Because when I'm older, they're not going to be around. You know what I mean?

The reason I said that is because you obviously have enough money to live by yourself. So do you still have chores? Do you have to be quiet by certain hours?

No, my mom's like, Do you get grounded? No, I don't get grounded.

You can't get grounded when you're number one.

No, my mom's pretty used to the shattering doors and vibrating walls. She's pretty used to it. But we soundproof my room and shit two months ago because it was getting bad.

How do you go about that?

Dude, there was actually a crazy story. Two years ago, I was playing... This is when I had 800 viewers, but I was playing NBA 2K 23. No, two years ago. Two years ago. I had a thousand viewers two years ago. But I was playing NBA 2K 22, and I was living in... Basically, neighbors were breathing on each other. The houses were stacked on top of each other, and I was screaming, and I left my window open. My next door neighbor thought there was a shooting in our house because how loud I was screaming. And a cop walked into my room on stream, and I had to mute my mic and turn off my camera. But that was fucking insane, bro. That's hilarious. Yeah, that was insane.

How do you clap cheeks with Mom Home, though?

Bro, I don't...

Okay, I'm done. No, but recently, I feel like you've been streaming for a while, but let's say in the last three weeks...

The way you just said that was just so zesty, too.

What? No. Wait. Okay, enough of that. But in the last three months, I'd say your spark of Or six months, we'll say, has gone from crazy. What sparked that?

Just creativity and thinking of... The biggest thing with streaming is thinking of new shit, but also being in touch with your community, knowing what they want to see. Because I can do new shit every night, but 90% of it's not going to hit. You need to be in touch with your community and what they want to see. And then, yeah, in the last six months, just insane creativity with content. If I look at my content two years ago compared to now, it's way different.

Yeah, you're everywhere. Yeah.

And obviously, OGs and shit will get mad about that because it's like, Bro, you changed. It's like, Dude, my content changed. I'm not going to... Because two, three years ago, I was perfectly cool with... I'm still perfectly cool with having A hundred viewers playing ranked all day. I don't care. But just changing your mindset and your creativity is the number one way to... You have to. I mean, even you know that, bro, with Nelk. You guys had a different story in every video. Nothing felt the same. It was something new every time.

Does that eat you up ever when the OG fans say you switched up and stuff? I know that sometimes fits with me.

I care about the OG because they were there from ground zero. But at the end of the day, if you really do support somebody, you want to see them grow. It's Are you even a supporter at that point? If you're like, Dude, fuck you. Your content changed. Or they'll say, I change. It's like, Dude, I just changed my mindset.

You know what I mean? Everyone is going to change, though. Yeah, you have to evolve. I think that evolution.

I think with streaming, it's a different level. If you compare to YouTube fans, and I learned this when I was at Brad's with Neon, and he has his community, bro, they dictate that kid's life, it seems like. If they tell him, they tell him what to do, and he's so sensitive to that.

I feel like there's a balance there, though. You can't just do only what they want to do.

But does it It does not seem like some of these streamers, there's so much pressure from the community to make them happy? Yeah, no.

Streaming is way different than anything else because I do YouTube. But Kyle, for example, he doesn't stream. Maybe you've done streams before, But you're a YouTuber. That's how you started. With streaming, if I don't stream tonight, bro, sometimes it's not even a horrible idea to think. Sometimes I wish I was just a random person because let's say I worked at Chili's, right? I'm not saying I'm not thankful for my job. I love my job. But let's say if I worked at Chili's and I called my boss and I was like, Yeah, I can't make it to work tonight. I'm letting down one guy. He can just sub me out. If I say I'm not making it to a stream, there's going to be 11,000 people in the offline chat, 600 DMs on Twitter, 12 emails. It's way different when you're letting down that many people. What did they say?

You're saying Hassan was right? Is that what you're saying? Wait, what do When Hassan was like, This is harder than...Oh.

The 9:00 to 5:00 shit?Yeah. No, I don't agree with that, I think. But what he was saying-What did he say?

Well, I feel like sometimes Hassan does stuff just to get people to almost be mad at him in a way. But he was saying how being a streamer is soul-sucking more than a 9:00 to 5:00. But obviously, he said it, and you see it out of context when I see the clips, but I want your take on that.

Dude, honestly, Hassan, in terms of soul-sucking, if you work a nine-hour shift and you do a nine-hour stream, you're going to be You are drained mentally from the stream because it depends on what type of streamer you are. If you're turning your camera off, not talking, playing a game, let's say you're playing World of Warcraft, you're not going to be drained at all.

Because you could dog fuck at work a lot.

Yeah, exactly.

When I used to work at the golf course, if my boss wasn't around, you're going on your phone, maybe you're grabbing a beer out of the fridge. You can dog fuck at a nine to five a lot. You've got to work at the golf course. You know what I mean? I've ripped the work.

Dude, have you?

It's low key. I've ripped a couple of work. I'm not ashamed of it. Brad, you have it for sure.

Brad, you beat me. God, I never have. Okay, be honest. Have you been since you've been here?

What?

I don't know what you're doing. You always take this shit to the next level. You just want to... It's like, what?

Okay.

I haven't kicked off in a very long time now. It's been more than almost...

But it's true.

Why do we talk about this every time on stream.

You got to be dialed the whole stream. Okay. Hold on.

I have a real question. We talked about fake shit earlier.

We didn't even get through that completely.

Do you want to continue?

He's right. At work, you can fuck off more. On stream, am I going to pull out my dick? Dude, especially if you're a top streamer and your number one goal is growth or entertaining people, you need to be fucked all the time. You need to. What Hassan said, to be honest, no one can relate to what he's saying because no one else is a streamer. Hassan, whether people like him or hate him, he is a top streamer, so he has input that no one else has. He's speaking from personal experience. At work, if you want to go to the bathroom and fuck off 10 minutes, you can't. You can't do that on stream. A nine-hour stream could be more draining. I've never worked, so I can't say. But yeah, he's done both, and that's what he says.

How often do you stream a week?

A week? Seven days a week. Every day. I'm missing a stream today just to do this pod because I'm like, This is a dope opportunity.I.

Appreciate you.Thanks.I.

Stream every day, bro.For.

How long?Four.

Hours.normally, it's minimum.How.

About the people? I see people comment at you for not streaming long enough.The part-time shit?Yeah, they say, Yo, two hours of streaming night. They're throwing shade at you.

Well, that's a newer thing. That developed in the last two months of like, If I end stream at 3 hours. They're right. It's coming from a place of love and criticism. They want me to stream longer. But the goal to streaming, If your goal is to actually grow, it sounds weird is to not stream that much.Quality.Yeah, it's quality. You're making people want it. My grandpa, he was a really successful businessman. But I asked him one day when I was 16 years old, I said, What's your number one piece of advice that I could take with me for the rest of my life? He started up a successful restaurant in America, but his goal was always have people coming out the door, always have a line leading out the door. So he never would have He would never have that many tables. He would never have that many seats because he wanted it to always be packed. That way, when people are driving by that restaurant on the road, they're like, Holy shit, why is there a gigantic line? So when you give scarcity, it makes people want something more rather than streaming for 12 hours every Yeah, it's a dope.

Are you sure it wasn't just because you just got a girl and that's why you're streaming less?

Dude, I've been streaming four hours for the last three months, probably. Okay, all right, fair.

Just seeing. How often do you stream? I just do podcasts. I talk to people.

You stream sometimes.

I stream, but I just go around.

Let's get into that.

We get four nights a week together. What the fuck are you talking about? Dude, we game all the time.

But I wasn't streaming. I'm thinking about streaming again.

Anyways. But no, obviously, out of anything in the creator space, streaming, it's like, yeah, that's some next level. Okay, time.

Brad just sat up, so ask your big question.

No, I'm not saying anything you've done is fake, but is sketch a real person?

What do you mean?

Is it a character? Because Steve sent me a clip of him talking, and I want to know if this is true or not. He was talking jokingly about shitting in your shower. Did he actually shit in your shower?

No, sketch didn't shit in my shower. Skech is a real person. His on-stream persona has definitely played up. It's a character, but I've talked to him off. He is funny as naturally.

The dude's hilarious. You guys are hilarious. I know.

Thank you. I think he might be the funniest person I've ever met, but it's definitely played up for stream for sure. I think that's common with almost every stream.

I've talked to him, too. He's on Twitch, right?

Yeah, sketch is on Twitch. You guys should get sketch on the podcast.I.

Want to talk about with you and Sneeco, you guys had a big talk about kick in Twitch.

I don't know the exact words, but you said something about how the kick streamers that you see, the level of content is Very low. We won't say who you referred to.

No, I didn't mean like... Okay, that wasn't with Sneako, that was with Moist.

Or with Moist, sorry.

Yeah, we weren't talking about level of content. The level of content on kick... Okay, here's the thing. On Twitter, when you see a 45-second clip, it's way different than the full 20-minute discussion. But what me and Moist were saying was like, Kick's card is, Oh, you can't get banned. That was their original card. Now, they're starting to ban creators. But when they first started, they weren't banning anybody. So it attracted the worst type of streamers. The top streamers on Kick are fucking amazing streamers. They all came from Twitch, like XQC8. And those guys are 10 out of 10, like iconic streamers. But we were talking about the guys who are going to Kick to commit crimes. There's literally people who stream themselves.I'm not even kidding.This is hilarious. Prostitutes on Kik.I'm.

Sure you've seen something like that.No.

You're on point. Some of those guys weren't even getting banned at first. Now, they're tightening it up. But that's what we were talking about. There's people committing crimes on the platform not getting banned. That's exactly what we're talking about, but it got taken way out of context.

That's why when we were about to... How many months ago when we started trying to do a little bit of streaming on kick? It was November.

We did our first IRL, a Halloween, so October. Yeah.

And then the time, obviously, the commitment is insane, which I don't think with everything else we have going on, we could really compete. But yeah, just the level of content that was working on Kick, too. It's just not something that I would... I don't really like stoping down our content to what is working in a time period, too. And when I saw all that type of content, it's like reality show type shit, almost. It's just drama-based.

I think the other issue is that's what's pushed by all these other pages, bro. So when I think XQC said, There's a thousand other streamers on kick, You don't see those guys. You see the ones that are doing that dumb shit that are fighting, that are doing the crimes, right?

But is that a problem with Kik itself?

This is the problem with the Internet.

I don't know if that's a...

Jinks, do you think that's a kick issue? Or is that just...

I don't know if it's a... It probably is a kick issue because the other thing about kick is the reason why a lot of Twitch streamers stay on Twitch is because they have ad revenue on Twitch. Kick, as of right now, I don't know what it's going to look like in a couple of months. Kick could be bigger than Twitch one day. I have no idea. But as of right now, there's no ads on the platform. The reason why Twitch is so strict, and sometimes they'll even overly ban people is because Twitch wants to be able to run ads on every stream. Like, Kik, how are you ever going to run ads on a dude who's literally finding a prostitute on a stream? There's multiple people have done that in front of thousands of people. You know what I'm saying? I think it just comes down to an advertiser thing of what Kik wants to do. But yeah, no. They have full control of banning those people, and they are starting to now. I think it was after the Moist pod, they started banning a lot of people. But yeah, no. It's definitely in their hands, 100%.

A lot of those guys, what happened to Zerka and shit?

Well, no, Zerka got... You probably know more about that than me, but I'm pretty sure HS, right? You know HS? I'm pretty sure they fought. They did down here, man. Yeah. No, they fought.

They flicked right out there.

Something legally happened where he had to leave the country. I don't even know, actually. I have no idea. But do you know about that or not?

We met him once. Is he just Ghost now?

I don't know.

He's still doing stuff.

That guy's a fucking nutcase. He's crazy. He's a fucking nutbar, bro. But in a funny way, but he's a nut case, dude.

I don't even know if he streams anymore, right? Or does he?

I think he I think he bounces around. I think he also got kicked from... He got removed from Kick as well. But I don't know if he's going to rumble or not. I don't even know where he's streaming at, but I know I still see him on Twitter.

Dude, if you get banned on Kick, that's next level. You got to be fucking crazy to get banned on Kick. Getting banned on Twitch happens to a lot of people, but you got to be insane to get banned on Kick.

With the Sneako pod, though, I don't know if you want to tackle this one, or maybe I will, but you and Sneeko talked about depression and how he says pushups can solve that.

Yeah, I think that was the most brain cells I've ever lost in five minutes. But then, I don't know. Depression is obviously a real thing. People die from it every day. And there's chemical imbalances. It's all scientifically proven, but he's just saying, well, your outlook's wrong. It's like, dude, people are fucking depressed, bro. That's just the reality of the situation.

Do you think pushups is a good solution? Oh, bro, pushups is fucking amazing.

I think it's a great solution. Pushups is a... Dude, if you're feeling like shit, bro, Work out first and see how you feel after that. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Well, I think the thing-Yeah, but I would agree with that. What if Gabe got a number 10 combo from Raising Canes? He's going to be pretty happy, too. So it's both sides, temporarily.

Yeah, well, this whole conversation is interesting about depression and just doing push-ups. I see both perspectives. I definitely can speak from a perspective like, I lost my father very young, and I think maybe if he had better things in his life going on, and he was more motivated in other areas of his life, that he maybe wouldn't have ended up in that situation because he did take his own life, and he was clinically depressed, as I was told. But the whole point to it, I think what Sneaker is trying to get at is, obviously, just doing a push-up is not just going to cure someone's depression. But overall, it's the people you spend time with, the circles that you're in, the conversations that you have with yourself, All those things can be somewhat not controlled, if you're completely in this down point. But if you do spend time, and it's obviously, you can't summarize it, go just do a push-up, you'll be better.

It's not that simple. It's easier to say that for him for clips, obviously. It's funnier, but I get what you're saying.

It is a whole overall thing. I do think there is a benefit to working out that I know for a fact to make you not feel as bad. But there's all those other things in your life that it's hard to just say this is all you need because there is so many other things that you do need to make yourself feel better and to climb out of that repetitive nature of thinking, which keeps someone in that position.

I think gym is the best depression cure.

Well, gym, the diet, the people you hang around, the sun. What conversations are you having?

But if you're depressed, give yourself two months in the gym If you become consistent and you're able to stick to the gym for two months.

So just to press.100%.What you're saying is just do push-ups for at least two months.

No, but I feel like if you give the gym a real shot and you really commit to it and you do it for 2-3 months and you're still depressed, then explore other options. But I personally think that if you can commit yourself to the gym, it's like...

Well, it's a diet, it's a gym, it's everything.

That's from my personal experience.

The hardest part of it all is people get themselves in this depression vibe, and they just go in circles. Then the content they consume keeps them there, and the conversations that they have with people keeps them there, and the lack of activity keeps them there. But yeah, I see what he's saying, but it's dumbed down to one thing, which is not that simple.

You could definitely see both sides. I 100% agree with everything you just said. When I started blowing up, about two or three months before that, I was big into David Goggins, if you know him. I literally started jogging every day, and that changed my entire outlook on life because Two years ago, bro, I would just stream. I'd play video games for 10 hours, and then every night I would order a Domino's handmade pan pizza. I felt like, shit, bro. When I started jogging every day, I was like, okay, you're getting out in the sunlight. Even little things, you're saying what's up to your neighbors, you're getting in a good exercise. You're losing weight. And it's like, okay, this is starting to actually change your mindset on everything else around you. I just had a problem with him saying it's bullshit, and it's a mindset.

I had a problem with Yeah, watering it down to that one thing. I get it.

Because when you look deeper, you know what I'm saying? But I hate when it just gets watered down to that because it's definitely a real thing. You know what I mean? For sure. But everything you said is 100% accurate.

I think your response was that you're just a positive person, right? Yeah. How do you stay so positive with... I mean, you're streaming seven days a week, people coming after you if you don't stream.

Yeah. I mean, it's good because without streaming, I'd probably be more depressed if I was like... Not that I'm a depressed person. I think Everyone in this room has good days, bad days. You know what I'm saying? Everyone goes through that shit. It's life, bro. But I think streaming keeps me busy to where I don't worry about that other shit, so I appreciate it. When I'm streaming for four or five hours, I'm not thinking about shit. You know what I'm saying? So I don't mind it in terms of that. But the other side of streaming, especially if you want to maintain being at the top of a mountain, is you need to always be thinking of new shit. You need to always have energy. You can't do lazy half-ass stream. So It's like, there's that side of it, but I appreciate being held accountable of this many people are relying on you to show up every night. So it's like, dope.

You know what I mean? And you, for the most part, I don't think I've ever seen you do an IRL. You always are doing desktop streams.

The first IRL stream I ever did was this weekend with Skatch. The cooking? No. So the cooking one was the day before. And then the next one, we went golfing, and then we went to a basketball court and played. It was fun as fuck.

Oh, I saw the basketball. Yeah, you beat him, didn't you?

Yeah, that was the first IRL stream.

How was your golf game?

Not great. How How's your guys's golf game?

I feel like he's probably the best. I'm decent. Steine's is...

What do you mean by decent? If you play 18 holes-I go shoot mid '80s. That's pretty fun. What's your shoes? Consistently? Have you ever shot like 78?

No, I've broken an 80 once in my life. That's it.

That's still crazy. I think I've broken 90, like two times.

That's dope. You're pretty good.

That's so good, bro. Just keep working on your game, bro.

I love golf.Golf's sick.Dude, yeah.

What about you guys did cooking, too?

Yeah.

That shit's hilarious, bro.

That was so fun. Okay, so I'll give you the full mindset of that stream. I didn't even know if it was allowed on Twitch at first because you were asking about that earlier. I'm like, Can you even smoke weed on Twitch? There's two hoops you have to jump through. First off, it has to be legal in your state. I don't think weed is legal in Florida, but if you have a medical card, it is legal. And we did. But if you have a medical card in Florida, you can smoke weed legally on stream. But the other hoop, which is a big one, is you can't get too high to where you're to yourself. This is a long...

How the fuck do they monitor that?

Well, this was a long time ago, this was over a year ago, but Ky ate edibles on stream, and I'm pretty sure he fell asleep on stream to where it's like, you can't be streaming right now. You know what I mean? So that could get you banned, but that's basically it. And then we cooked the shittiest pasta ever, but it was fun.

Does Twitch's rules ever work with you and stuff?

No, I don't think so. I think it's pretty easy to stay within TOS. I'm not a psycho. I don't say wild shit. But yeah, no. I don't think Twitch has ever held me back. The only time I've ever gotten banned on Twitch was when I was twerking, and that was two years ago. That was when twerking wasn't allowed. Now it's allowed, but I was twerking. It was pretty graphic. My ass was on the camera and shit.

Probably a good reason to get banned.

What song was playing?

What?

That's funny.

Dude, I think it was like trippy red. I don't even know what's going through my head.

What other advice have you gotten or what other people in your life have motivated motivated you to be this driven? Because it's not normal at your age to go this fucking hard.

I don't know. I don't look at it as drive or motivation. I just feel like in life, I'm so bored when I'm not progressing. You know what I mean? I get really bored really fast. I get that. The idea of... Because a lot of people long for retirement, which I'm sure when I'm 40 or 50, I'll want to be retired. But the idea of doing nothing all day, scares the fuck out of me.

Scary, bro.

It's like, what do I do? I don't know.

You Can you relate to that, though?

Yeah, I just think it's funny because a lot of people try to work because they think they want to work, get enough money so they can just do nothing. But that sounds like death. That's like slowly waiting to die doing nothing.

Have you worked any jobs and shit? Because you're older, right? Yeah. So what is your job experience?

I worked in a restaurant since I was in high school. I worked at a real estate investment firm out of college.

And what was that like?I.

Hated it, bro.Yeah. I hated it. I grinded poker for a little bit, shit like that, and then went to an assistant. Steve's assistant. I actually I have grinded pretty hard.

Bob's assistant then Steve's assistant.

Took me a while, but yeah.

Steiny was Bob's assistant. That's the worst job I've ever-Crazy.

That was four years ago.

Actually, no one can say that Steiny didn't even work hard.

Yeah, you're grand. No, I know you're grand.

You took physical and mental abuse.

Bro, you were Bob Mentherey's assistant before Steve? Yeah. I thought it was just Steve. No. How long were you his assistant for?

Bob's a little over a year.

Did you hate it or not really?

Dude, it was some of the best times of my life, and it was the coolest opportunity ever. Because I think what's cool about that is you understand how rare of an opportunity you have. If you don't make something out of it, that's probably the only chance you're going to get. So I just grinded, and that's when I met Steve, linked up with these guys. You know the grind.

Yeah, especially for me, it was weirder because I went...

Well, how long have you been streaming? Honestly.

When did you start?

I was... So this is like... I've never even said this, but I was streaming when I was a I was a freshman in high school. I was streaming when I was 15. I've streamed on three different accounts. I started off streaming Clash Royale. Have you guys ever seen that game? I had like 30, 40 viewers on Clash Royale. Then I deleted it because I was focused on school and soccer or whatever. But then when I got older, I made another Twitch account, deleted that after a year. Then my senior year of high school, I was streaming day in, day out, no progression at all. I streamed... In 2019, I literally averaged one viewer, and I probably 200 days that year. I was like, Dude, I may as well just go for it. Because when I was a senior in high school, I was felt lost. I didn't know what I wanted to do. Everyone around you is going to college or they have work lined up with their dad or whatever.

But I didn't know what the fuck I wanted to do.

So I was like, I want to do something where I can pour my entire heart into it. And if it fails, it's on me. You know what I mean? I don't want to have my future be dependent on somebody else.

What made you pick streaming?

I was gaming when I was nine. And I've always been really good at just running my mouth, talking for hours. So my dad was actually the one who was like, You could easily do this. Because in 2000, I think it was 17 or 18, when all the Fortnite streamers were blowing up, nick Merckx, Ninja, Tfu, all the legends. He's like, Dude, you could easily do this. You play video games every day. I was always the best at video games in my friend group, which doesn't really mean much. But I was always more of a funnier guy. In school, I could make people laugh. You know what I'm It was just hand in hand. Because the two key components to streaming is you either need to be insanely good at a game or insanely funny. If you can captivate both, you're off to the moon.

When did your streams really start to pick up?

In the start of 2023, it was December of 2022, January of 2023, I went from 1,000 average viewers to 4,000 because someone posted a clip on TikTok of me opening alpha packs, and it got nine million views in 20 hours. And I was like, holy shit. And then I'm looking at my dashboard and I see I got 7,000 followers overnight from this one clip because So then what happened was that guy started clipping my shit every day. Other guys started clipping my shit because the guys that clip shit get paid. If they make it, that's a whole another discussion. But if you make a clip one minute long, you can get paid off of it per views. So buy TikTok? Buy TikTok directly. Yeah, you know.

Over a minute.

Over a minute. As long as it's over 60 seconds, you'll get paid. Whether you get 500 views, you'll get one cent, probably. But the CPM sucks. But some of them are making 20K a month just clipping. Some were 18 years old with a doctor salary.

But they have to post over a minute videos.

Have to be over a minute, and you have to be in the program for it. But then I see all these other accounts popping up of this guy's clipping this. And I think this clip era started with Andrew Tate. 100 %. So when I started seeing like, okay, there's like 20 new accounts in the last two weeks. I'm like, okay, here we go. It's starting now. And I was like, I'm not going to this up. I'm going to go even harder because I finally got the one chance I wanted. So I sunk all my time into it because I was like, okay, it's happening now. You know what I mean?

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Another thing with streaming is I feel like you don't have to put that much money into it, too. So like with YouTube, When you get to that point, you're going to sink a lot of money into these videos. For you, you don't have to do anything too crazy. Dude, yes. The whole concept of it, you're pretty much sitting at your desk, pull up some stuff to react to, game. I don't want to say it's simple, you have to be unique, but the concept of it, anyone can really just do it.

Dude, yeah. No. I got partnered on Twitch, which is averaging 75 viewers. It's getting verified. You get perks and benefits. I got partnered on Twitch, streaming off of my Xbox on a TV, not even a monitor. Monitor. For gaming, you're always supposed to have a monitor. Bro, I remember I opened my bank account when I was 18. I had $125. I spent $100 on a monitor because I broke that TV. I opened my bank account with $25. I put the The first Twitch check I got, I put all of my money right back into my setup, got a face cam, which is so important, got a green screen, and then it was just over after that. I started really picking up traction.

How crazy bags these days?

What do you mean? I'm streaming?

You got to be doing pretty well now, right?

Yeah, it's like...

Well, wasn't it five bucks a subscriber or some shit?

I feel like Twitch takes most of it now.

It depends. It all depends. For sub, specifically, if you're a top streamer, you can negotiate a split where you get... Because the standard is 50/50, but top streamers, you can negotiate a split. And they recently dropped this partner program where you get a 70/30 split. But I can't obviously get I can't get into that because it's all shit I can't get into.

You have a deal with Twitch, specifically, then? You don't have to say the deal.

No, I was just saying more like the money is starting to come in. You got to be doing pretty well since the day you bought the Facebook.

He's wondering when you're going to buy, relax and flex.

You're the number one streamer. You get the money, you get the girl. How's that going?

Obviously, I have money, but it's like... You know what I mean? It's the same shit as any other thing. If you're doing really well on YouTube, you have money. But that's not the goal of streaming. I just do it because I love doing it. You know what I mean? When you started your YouTube channel, was your...

I was just doing it for fun, bro. Exactly, bro.

People see the vibe of it. With Nelk, people see like, oh, these guys are literally just walking around, having a good time and making funny shit. If it turns into something, it does. But if it doesn't, it doesn't.

It's not like, oh, I'm doing this to be rich and famous.

That's the worst mindset ever. Definitely. If you You love it, you'll never run out of a drive or a passion for it. You know what I mean?

100%.

There goes with any relationship.

Good, man.

Good?

Yeah, I knew you were going to ask about that.

I feel like there's some weird personal thing here.

What's going on?

No, it's not a personal thing. When you're trying to balance a career and a girl, bro. So I'm just checking in, making sure you're good.

Yeah, it's going great, man. I knew you were eventually going to ask about it. Do you have a crush? So what?

You're locked?

Yeah, I'm locked in. But do you have a crush on her or what?

Yeah, what the Dude, I thought I was dating her. So I think there might be an issue there.

I wasn't going to say anything, but since you said it, I mean, Steiny's probably really jealous. I think he's just playing it off. Yeah, he is.

Holy shit. Tell the truth.

Steiny, you asked her on a date, didn't she?

Like a couple months ago? No, I did. Just one? Wait, wait. It was 2 AM, bro. So don't get ahead of yourself. It wasn't a 4 PM thought-out text. It was like a...

What are you doing right now? Dude, shoot. Whoa. Shoot or shoot, man.

No, I'm kidding. I will say... You're not. People shit on her, but she's actually cool as fuck.

Well, yeah. I mean, everybody that shits on her has never like...

I'm going to stay away, too. You don't have to worry about that. I'm not going to hit her up no more. I appreciate that. I'll let you have your fun for a little bit. Yeah.

You scare me.

I think he was worried about it. I'm very threatened.

No, yeah. I mean, anybody that's... Especially when you're meeting someone who's literally posting for TikToks, especially if it's like troll funny shit. They've never met that person off of a camera. You know what I mean? So it's like their opinion is already so jaded. I feel like with streaming, it's way easier for people to get in touch with you as a person because you're in front of that camera for four or five hours a day. Sometimes I'll talk about what wings I want to order tonight. You get very personal with a streamer. But if someone doesn't stream and they're literally posting TikToks, bro, it's like, how are you going to have an actual opinion on a person? You know what I mean?

Yeah, 100%. How are you guys... Are you going to do a collapse and have the relationship? Or is it... Well, I mean-You have done it, right?

At first, it was just a stream thing. But I'd prefer, me personally, I don't want to intertwine the internet with a relationship too much because the internet's psychotic.

So psycho. How do you balance that, though, if it's doing so well?

You have to sit down with yourself and be like, Do you want the internet intertwined with... You don't. You don't. Because the internet's super. That's the thing. It's not even the internet. 95% of the internet is cool as fuck. It's just that 5% of like, What the fuck is wrong with this guy? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, preferably, occasionally we could collab or whatever, but less and less off camera. You know what I'm saying?

Because it's the first internet. Pressure's on. See, you better keep that number one spot.

This guy is really trying to insert himself.

Now that you said Stani is going to start streaming, he might go crazy.

Could you ever see yourself streaming?

Yeah. Really? For sure. Yeah. Well, dude.

Well, now that you know, Brecky likes streamers. No.

But I'll game with Brad, and just our conversations are funny while we're just playing for fun. I'm like, I think I want to do it, too, because I think it's-What game would you play, though?

What would you do?

Four-night 2K. Then I think reactions. I think, for instance, the problem with the podcast is, let's talk about P. Ditty and Meek Mill situation is really hot. Since you're streaming that night, you can talk about it that night. Since we do the pod once a week, that shit might already be old, so we can't talk about it.

Turnaround is way longer.

Yeah, that's what I think is really unique and different about streaming and why streamers are able to get clips so much is because it's so hot and you do it every night.

Dude, it's actually crazy. What you just said is genius, by the way. What you said is true. If you're doing a podcast once a week, those trends are old, bro. You're doing it once a week. But if you're streaming and people in your chat are like, Yo, this just happened, you could run to TikTok and report on it, and then it gets clipped. It's actually funny. It doesn't even make sense in my brain how famous and how much of an influence streamers have. Like, Speed, Ky, Aiden. The amount of influence streamers have is fucking insane. They're up there with like, rappers, even more. It's actually crazy.

Ky even is like, it's just a different level.

You never know who you're going to find seeing that guy.

It's fucking crazy, bro.

Well, the immediateness of it, like you said, is really a part of that impact. Having the reactions as fast as you can and then people coming and seeing you and your reaction to it because they're looking for it right away somewhere on TikTok. And then if they've already known you or seen you, they're more engaging with you. I guess on that, do you see that changing? Because I really wonder what the future of streaming is. Is it just going to keep going down this super high-speed road of you have to be on the shit right away? Because the Internet just seemingly becoming more and more like, you have to be like...Quicker. Yeah, it's like everything is about turnaround time. So it's almost like, do more people make content have to start streaming?

Dude, yeah. As boring or not even boring, as depressing as it sounds, people's... Not people. Kids attention span is getting even worse day by day because of TikTok. So I see streaming getting even more short term of everything's fast, you're reacting to shit, boom, TikTok circulates because you know, you're plugged into the streaming shit. I know you are. I've seen you talk to streamers. Tiktok is everything. So if people's attention spans are fried, streamers are the guy because everything's live, everything happens fast. And the other element of streaming before TikTok really took it over was people love the idea of it's live, anything could happen. There could be a disaster, someone could get banned. People love that element because YouTube is dope because you can edit shit and chop it up from the creator POV. But from the viewer POV, they love the idea of anything could happen. You know what I mean?

It's live.

Personally, you spend more time on TikTok than IG?

Oh, my. Yeah. I think I made my Instagram account two months ago.

You never even had IG like that?

Never had IG. No. Really? I made a Snapchat account two months ago. All I'm plugged into is TikTok, and it'd be my advice to any other streamers. See what's trending and just find where you can fit into it. If it makes sense. If you're a streamer where your thing is sports, don't report on politics, but find where it plugs into your content and just go with it.

That feels genuine, though.

Yeah, ride waves and just speak from the heart Because it's like Kyle was saying earlier, you want to build an actual audience of not just people who are watching you to be like, Oh, is this guy going to get punched in the face? You want to watch streamers who are... The way to build a long term community is finding people that actually fuck with you and just be yourself. There's only one of you, and there's 8 billion other people.

Did your TikTok blow up when you started getting big off streaming? Because it's not like you don't post clips from your stream on your TikTok, right? You post organic content on TikTok.

Yeah. So I never posted my... I actually used to post my clips from my stream on my TikTok, and I'm like, why are these not doing that good? And I'm like, then I thought about it. It's like, well, there's a thousand other pages clipping it. So what I need to do is I need to give people new content, like behind the scenes shit. Even like some of my biggest videos ever is me going to buy shoes at a mall.

I've seen that one. Yeah.

That video has like 15 million views, and it's literally me just walking around a shitty mall in my hometown, and I'm trying on boots and shit.

It's like people love it. Are you surprised when that does that good?

No, because I know this is the first time they've ever seen it. If I'm posting a clip, they've probably already seen it because, like I said, there's by now, I don't even know. There's probably, realistically, 15,000 to 20,000 different TikTok pages consistently clipping my shit. So it's like, if I'm posting a stream clip, I'm a idiot. It's already been.

You're just like, I don't care.

That's smart.

People want to see you out of that streaming element.

But your TikTok, your personal TikTok account is fucking... Oh, shit. Your personal TikTok account is fucking ridiculous, the numbers. Yeah.

Especially in the last probably three months, but almost every TikTok is 10 to 20 million views because I understood people love that behind-the-scenes shit. Dude, I know you don't really post on TikTok, but people see you in like-Whenever we post something raw, it does well.

It's better than the other shit.

People, even if it's me making a burrito, people love that shit because it's like, this is something I've never seen before. And they like to see you out of that chair sometimes, out of that streaming chair and doing something relatable and real. Then they know you're a human. Yeah, they know you're a human being and not a robot.

What do you think about their talks about TikTok being banned? They keep talking about this.

I'd jump through this window right here.

I don't think TikTok is ever going to get banned.

I think it They're threatening it so it gets out of the... I don't know the name of the company that owns it, but they want it to get out of their ownership. I don't know much about it. Tiktok is probably not getting banned. If it does, then Gigi, I guess.

I mean, it's just whoever has more money and who's lobbying better.

Yeah, I feel like there's-There was some about Biden signing some bill, right?

Yeah, and the Congress thing. But there's so much money in TikTok, even from American companies. It's just like, why would they want it to be out of there as well? So many people are making money off of TikTok.

Yeah, I heard YouTube lobbies.

It's like, heavy, Probably. Because TikTok's got to be the reason why.

Millions of billions.

Yeah. Tiktok's got to be the reason why YouTube seems to be less the sought-after place to go make content now because of the-Definitely way less.

I feel like it's still massive, but it's obviously lost. Yeah, TikTok, especially with the younger generation. Yeah.

Well, the big thing with TikTok is the data mining and shit, right? Because I don't even know. I have no idea anymore, so I want to preface by saying that. But I think it's owned by China, right? Yeah. So.

Ceo and me talked actually recently.

When you have these guys that are running the country that are 70 years old, they don't use TikTok. They don't give a fuck. If they find out that another country has personal information, they're going to feel some type of way about it. So I think they want to move ownership to a different company that's, I think, American-owned or something. I don't even know the full story of it. I've had some sleepless nights thinking about TikTok.Imagine it.

You're like, Fuck.

Yeah, because that's the whole... I owe everything to fucking TikTok. You know what I mean? If I ever met one of my TikTok clippers in real life, I would like to hug them. Those guys are fucking dope, dude. You know what I mean?

Yeah, they definitely... It helps a lot.

What else besides TikTok, do you think is the Besides the content itself and the originality of it, what other platforms do you think have the biggest push for a streamer to get big?

Youtube is so much more gigantic. I've talked to so many people about Twitch because I can talk about streaming forever. But Twitch is a bubble. There's not really that big of an audience compared to YouTube. With Twitch, when you get to the point of you're averaging 100,000 viewers, you become the trend of a website. It's only the bubble is following you around. The bubble will follow around any top streamer. But with YouTube, Twitch is almost like a lake, and YouTube's an ocean, if that makes sense. I mean, bro, YouTube is fucking insane.

You can literally talk You can touch the whole world with YouTube. When you get a fucking iPhone, YouTube's on that phone. You know what I mean?

Does Twitch do anything for you when you become number one?

What do you mean do anything?

Is there any accolade or do they reach out to you? Is there anything that happens? No, I have a...

Wait, what's that?

I said he's wondering if they kick you off or anything.

Well, I mean, you're saying it's a smaller platform. So if you're the number one guy. You're doing a lot for them.

It's not that it's a smaller platform. I'm just comparing it to YouTube, which is the biggest.

It's a search engine.

Youtube might be bigger than TikTok. Youtube's gigantic.

What about when... How is your in Kai's relationships?

Dude, I love Kai. Kai is an actual good human being, which is like, it gets hard to see that when you have so much money and so much Fame because he does. Ky is so international. But I've talked to Ky off stream. Bro, he loves his mom. He loves his family. He's very religious. He's a good human being, and he understands the impact that he has on his viewers. So Kai is an actual really good person.

I love Kai. What was the whole... I know this is outdated, but what was the Montclair thing?

Oh, that's super dumb. But yeah, we were doing a Madden wager, and we were playing for, I think it was $5,000, I'm pretty sure. And when I won, I said, This is going into a Purple Montclair. And then I actually bought one with his money when I got it. So it was just a funny thing. No, but I love Kai. Like, actually.

Yeah. What's your best game right now?

Favorite game to play or the game I'm best at?

Both.

I'm sleeper good at FIFA. I was semi-professional at Clash Royale. I'm washed now. Good at R6. Favorite game to play right now? Probably like FIFA. I play FIFA off stream. I love FIFA, but FIFA is so dead. Yeah. Fifa is so shit now. Fifa used to be peak.

I always see you play. You're always playing Madden.

Well, that was just because I was super into football. It happens to me every year. I always come back to Madden. When it's playoff season, I always find my way back to Madden, dude.

You're pretty ass at what? You're ass at Fortnite. You're the most selfish player. It's you in person.

Okay, let me explain this.

He doesn't know how to reply.

Let me explain how he plays Fortnite. This is how Stani thinks he's good at Fortnite. Because he talks the most on the comms, produces absolutely no damage, no kills, no nothing. He'll go, Bro, we lost because... It's like, I'll have Ten kills will have none. It'll be like, I lost because of you.

Just because he was saying shit.

It's a team game. If I go down, there's no thought of... But you can't even defend him. I should go help him out. It's hero mode. Let me be the man. Let me get the done.

Bro, I have to because he doesn't kill anyone. I have to protect him.

Dude, you'd be a good You're a Siege player then because comms is so important in siege, not really in Fortnite. That's my point. Thank you. Honestly, sometimes with Fortnite, don't you think it's better to just have your teammate shut up so you can hear shoot?

Yeah, so I could shoot.

But how good of a communicator am I?

Bro, you just talk to talk. Half the time, you're like, Where are you at? We both have the same mini map. You know that you're way far away from me. You don't got to be across the field and be like, Where were you? You knew where I was. He's bad. He's really bad, dude.

It's terrible. How old are you and how old is Steiny? 20s. What do you mean 20s?

Mid-20s, mid-late 20s.

Is this personal info?

No, I'm 29.

Okay, so you're 30. And then how old is Brad?

I'm 29, actually. You're 34 for every fucking year, bro. You're 38.

No, I'm 33.

You're 38, dude.

No, that's insane.

You Google my fucking age, bro.

I know you got some Wikipedia guy changing that shit.

Bro, it's Google, dude.

Well, dude, to be fair, you guys are never competing with the 15-year-olds who are just playing. Fortnite is crazy. Fortnite is all mechanics. There's no brain think. There is thinking. There's a lot of intelligence that goes into Fortnite. But if you compare it to any other top shooter, it's nothing. It's all about how fast can you take this guy's wall and can you 200 pump him and how fast are your edits?

We play no We play no build. Good.

You'll have more fun in that. Fortnite is just like no thought. Just mechanics.

That's why it's so much fun, though.

Yeah. No, Fortnite is fun. Fortnite is never going anywhere. We should play us three.

We're a trio.

We're a trio.

What? We're a trio. What? We're a trio. What? We're a trio.

I know.

We'll have to carry. You're too cool?

You have to carry a man.

I only ripped Cod, bro. That was the game that I just devoted days and hours to.

I missed Cod, the golden days when it was so good.

Were you in the Cod golden days?

Oh, my God, bro. Call Duty Black Ops 2, bro. That That was like... I mean, you guys are a little older than me. You guys probably played MW2, right?

Mw2, Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2.

Dude, Call Duty Black Ops 2 was when I was like, Okay, this is... Playing video games is my favorite thing ever. I found that out in Black Ops 2. That game, when you have seven people, you're playing from 8:00 PM to 4:00 AM with your boys, there's nothing else like that. Gaming is crazy. There's nothing else like that. You know what I mean?

Just the best thing ever.

Just with the boys, getting homophobic on there and shit, just saying whatever the fuck you want.Dude.

When you're loading...No.

One cared.

Yeah, when you're loading into a Call duty Black Ops 2 lobby, and I'm 11 years old, 12 years old, and people are telling me they're going to fuck my mom. It's like, bro, I became a man on that game.

Did you ever lose Did it lose your temper when someone really dissed you?

No, not really. I mean, a lot of the people that were really mad at me were like 30 because I was a squieker.

The easiest guys were to go out with the guys with the deep voice is that we're definitely like 40.

Dude, that was their only trip, too. They're like, your voice is so high and shit. Yeah.

Dude, and it's like, You're nuts. Have it even dropped? And this guy's 30. I can hear his baby crying in the background. Take care of your kid, bro. I can hear his baby crying in the background. He's telling me he has a relationship with my mom.

Bro, your baby's crying, dude.

Yeah. Those guys are easy pickups. How do you pick early on and how do you come up with your creative? So if you have a stream tonight, would you have it planned out before? Quick question.

Does Stiny run the pod in a way of questions?

A little bit. It depends on the episode. A little bit.

It depends on who the guest is. It depends on the guest. Sometimes me or Kyle connect, and Brad's just there.

It depends on the guest, though, probably.

The shade on me is great.

No, everybody connects with whoever. No, that's fair. Is that a compliment, though? Because I'll take it.

No, I think you do a pretty decent job.

I'm going to tell you, you've been talking about streaming just becomes so popular. I've become fascinated with it because I think it really is the future of everything. And so all these new guys I've just paid attention to, and then it just becomes my TikTok.

He's also really interested in your girl.

That's why he's like, extra in the That's what it takes. I'll stream.

Wait, I'm sorry. What was your question, though?

It was a good question. No.

How do you plan your streams out? How often do you have them planned out prior?

Schedules scare me. Having a calendar scares the shit out of me. I like to wake up, go outside, sit by my lake, smoke a cigar, and just start thinking about, I haven't done this. This did really well. Because the idea and mindset I would give to any streamer is, when you're starting at ground zero, Just try different shit. When I was averaging one viewer in 2019 for 228 streams or something, I was streaming 2K, I was streaming Black Ops, and then my cousin told me to try Siege. And then I was like, Oh, now I have seven viewers. Try different shit, see what works, and then always make sure you bring back the classics, but don't do the same shit every time. And my community gets pissed about it, and they say, My community is just something else. But they'll say, Recycled content. It's like, if you guys want me to stream every night for five hours a night, you're going to see the same shit some nights because it's like, I'm not going to think of something every night. You know what I mean? Yeah.

You're not really... You're more just on the wing in it.

You're completely wing in it. That's good, though. Yeah. I don't like having the next seven days planned out. That's terrifying. I like being able to just do whatever. You know what I mean?

When did you start on YouTube?

Good question. My cousin told me to start on YouTube because he's like, You're a idiot if you don't start on YouTube. But honestly, I was late. I started on YouTube probably 11 months into streaming, and by then, I was probably averaging 300, 400 viewers, and I still wasn't on YouTube. But what made you want to try YouTube? Because it was a big thing.

I was always good at making videos. I would edit them, I would film them. I would do the whole process. I wanted to be a filmmaker. So I was good at the whole process of making videos. Me and my friends would shoot funny shit, serious shit. But then just uploading it and just literally doing it for fun. I wanted to be a YouTuber, too. And then just, yeah, same shit, slowly getting views. Then I would make $500 a month. Bro, that's-And when I high because it's like-Yeah. And I saw people that were like, that made it. And I was like, there's no way you can make a living being a YouTuber. That would just be the dream, right?

Dude, and I'm sure even when you made your first $500, you were like, Bro, I made 500 bucks doing something I love doing. So it's like, I'd rather make 500 bucks doing that than 5,000 doing something I hate.

You know what I mean? Now that you're here, you didn't think you'd get here, but you also knew you would at the same time. It's weird to explain.

Dude, that's probably how you feel. I just related to what you just said so much. When I had one viewer, I was like, everyone around you, especially when you're starting, I'm sure you have the same shit. People are going to call you delusional and crazy. The same people that do that are the first ones that congratulate you when it works off. It's like, dude, fuck you. You said I was crazy from To start, to be insanely successful in a field like YouTube or Twitch, you have to be crazy at the start. For sure. When you look at the math, you're like, oh, there's a 99.9% chance I fail. But you have to be like, It's locked up in the head, to be honest. You have to be like, I can eat shit for 12 months, get one viewer every stream, but it's going to take a SWAT team to get me out of this chair to stop me from streaming because I know I can do it. Because you also have to be with yourself. A lot of people want to stream, but it's like, Bro, you're boring as fuck. You don't have a face cam on.

You don't even edit. Or not edit. You don't have any energy. You're playing shitty games. It's not going anywhere. You know what I'm saying? But what was your schedule like when you were starting YouTube? Did you plan shit out or did you just completely wing it?

No, we were pretty strategic and planned. I mean, as much as you can, right? But I think, dude, we almost quit many times. There were times where we were just like, Yo, this is not working. We're not getting views. I think we even debated just managing talent. Just because we knew the back end, we knew how to shoot and edit, and we're just like, Oh, let's maybe manage this influencer and do their shit. But then I think we just said, We need to upload three times a week, which was pretty crazy. Now, we upload once a month, but shoot and edit and post three times a week. And that's what we did. And we just hit the road, didn't come back, and then just three times a week, no matter what. And we were editing the videos, too. Yeah. And then, yeah.

Your grind is crazy. And it's actually when he talks about that, it's crazy to think that you never had, I don't want to say real job, but a normal job. You should do a IRL of you working in a I was thinking of doing a vlog where I work at Chipotle for a day.

That'd be sick. You have to. Yeah. But, bro, when you were first starting, and let's say, obviously, you didn't get any traction at first. What do you think was the main motivator of I'm going to keep going? Did you have full faith that it was going to work out, or were you just on the fence?

Like you said, you always just have that faith for some reason.

You're fucked in the head, bro. You got to be fucked in the head.

It's like a blind faith. Now that you're here, it's like, damn, this is pretty crazy. But you always had a feeling it would have worked out.

No, I love that fucking answer.

But like you, when you start to get that like a thousand views and you know, okay, wait, something. I have something here. I think we did the same thing. We went all in.

You have way more belief. Way more belief. For now, was there a breakthrough point Or was it just natural slow? Because for me, it was just natural slow like that.

Yeah, it was slow. I think that's why we have such a diehard cult fan base, right? Because there was never that one video. I think our first big one was the co-prank. That was a big one.

That video was insane.

That was the first viral where it got, I think it was even just a million in a day or some shit like that.

But you guys were already doing well before that. We were good enough to where-Decent.

I don't even know if we were at 100K at that point, but Dude, you want to know my favorite Nelk video ever?

It was the wine tour where Steve got hammered.

Wine tour is legendary, bro.

Because you have all these rich folks who are 50, and Steve is just fucking wasted.

I know. We actually watched that two weeks ago.Dude.

That's my favorite video ever.

Bro.i didn't even realize how crazy it was. No.

Yeah. And then like…

Steve was a fucking animal.

The most fucked up part about Steve was he was in good shape, too.

Yeah. That's what made him cool because it's not like he was a fat drinker. Because then it's depressing to look at it.

But Steve was freadded, bro. And this guy could drink.

I'm glad that we handled it perfectly where we called it quits.At the right time.At the right time. Because there's no way that would have ended well.

Dude, that's what I was going to... This is a question I've wondered. Could you ever see yourself going back to just getting pissed, hammered, riding around the country? Or do you think you're at a point in your career where it's like, Dude, I'm not going to be a kid forever? You know what I mean?

That's why we haven't uploaded it in four months. It's because for me, it's a personal battle, too.

It's like-Do I want to be doing that?

Do I want to be doing that? Do people even want to see that? What do they want to see us do? Like, Yeah, I'm 29, too. I'm turning 30 this year.

That was a really good question because we talk about that all the time. But also, I think the financial is way different. At that point, when you guys are doing it, you had to do that. And now it's a little different where that's not a requirement to get content.

I don't think it was had to do it, though.

I think it's just like... I don't think it was had to do it. I think we were just going on a little health grind for a little bit, and I wanted to just focus on that and achieve that. But we just shot a funny-ass video this week. So I personally still love making videos and shit. But yeah, I think with the drinking, too, we always say, dude, drinking for is actually productive and beneficial, which just becomes scary a bit. Even on old trips, we wouldn't be drinking one day, and we wouldn't get any content. Then we'd all look at each other and just be like, All right, we got to get straight up. Then we'd get the It was the best shit ever. No matter where we were, even in Europe, we're like, Yo, we don't really want to drink today. Let's just go do this for content. We're not getting anything. We're like, All right, we got to drink. Then we drink, best video ever, right?

How do you know when we How do you know now when we have a banger video, how do you know when you just put out that, Yo, that was a fire stream or that was a great stream? How do you determine that if you do it so often?

Yeah, it's not even... I don't really base it off of numbers. Oh, this stream had this many viewers. Yeah, sure. Whatever. That's cool. But for example, this weekend, it was just like... When I do something new and people love it, that's what I would say. When I was getting high with sketch and it was the funniest shit ever. I woke up, there's all these clips on TikTok of the funniest shit I've ever seen. So I'm like, Oh, people actually fucking love this. I took a risk on something. I did something totally new, and people actually fucking loved it. So it's so motivating of like, oh, people love when I do different shit. You know what I mean?

Dude, nothing is better than when you film a video and you're just having the best time doing it and it does well.

Dude, I made money getting high and cooking shitty pasta. That's literally life goal. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Does content ever feel like work for you sometimes? Some of the shit you do?

Sometimes, yeah. Especially when it's like you're streaming every day for years and some of the shit you've done so many times, it's like, okay, I wish I could just... But streams like that are special where you have a guest come out and you do that. So I understand and appreciate that it can't happen every night. But yeah, sometimes definitely. I feel like anything else, it does feel like work eventually. You know what I mean? I'm sure you felt like that before. Yeah.

We just shot a video this week and it was fun.

It was so fun.

Are Are you going to try to, obviously not letting things get stale. Are you going to try to start involving more creators and do collabs? Who do you want to collab with?

Dude, the number one person I want to collab with is Speed because recently, he got unbanned on Twitch a couple of months ago. But I've collab with almost everyone I wanted to. I've collab with Aiden. I've always wanted to do that. I've collab with Keso, sketch, Kai. I've collab with all these creators that I love, but Speed would be the number one person.

Would you ever see yourself going outside of the creator space and trying to involve, I guess, I don't know if you call it celebrity, even though creators at this point are in a sense. But you know how Kai goes and he's working with hip hop people. Would you ever go out and do stuff like that?

Oh, my God. I would love to. The problem with The only issue I see with having a rapper on your stream is, are they going to be good and comfortable on a stream? Because you have rappers like Uzi, where it's the most entertaining thing you've ever seen. He's done Aiden streams. He's done Kai streams. Uzi is the most entertaining entertaining person on a stream. But when you have other rappers that are awkward as fuck, it's like, I don't want to do a stream where I'm uncomfortable and they're uncomfortable. It has to be somebody that I love and I know they're good on streams. Uzi is a perfect example. He's probably the best rapper on a stream.

I'd say. I see.

Yeah. Not like Playboard Card is showing up and leaving really early.

That was crazy. We were talking about earlier, reporting on news and shit. Bro, I wasn't even able to stream that night. I would have talked about that for two hours. That was the most That was the best six minutes in internet history.

I wonder if they planned that.

No. No. That was so raw.

But even that's huge for Aiden, right? That was everywhere.

It went more viral.

Bro, yeah. A hundred %. Exactly. I said the same thing when I was like, obviously Aiden got like, he It definitely got scammed money-wise, but that was the most clipped six minutes in streaming history easily, bro. That was everywhere. Yeah.

That's Aiden's thing is he always gets punked and just like, it's so funny. He plays it off so well, right?

Yeah. The 21 Savage shit, too, with the cards.

Aiden's gone fucked over a lot, bro. I saw Duke Dennis said something about, dude, you got to quit collabing with these rappers. I don't know if he said paying him to come on stream. It's not worth it. It's not organic if you do that.

I think the vibe of paying someone to be on your stream is a horrible vibe to begin with because it's like, why have them do it if they don't want to do it? You know what I'm saying? Why pay somebody $100,000 for 2 hours of their time? Dude, it's going to be awkward and boring You'd be better off just getting someone who wants to be on the stream. And that way, it's just a good time for everybody. You know what I mean? Paying somebody is a horrible mindset to get on your stream.

I have to say for Aiden, dude, it's actually like, I think he's the goat, honestly, because I'll still see clips from six, seven years ago. Like the Tori Lane's clip is the most viral fucking thing every time.

The Tori Lane's clip was like three years ago.

Or three, four years ago. But like, random shit from four or five years ago. That get 10 million views. I'm just like, How?

Aiden is the one who made streaming mainstream because before Aiden, it was just gaming, Ninja. Fortnite is what made streaming like, okay, this is a real thing. Because after Fortnite, people were like, holy shit. There's guys making millions of dollars a month playing video games. So Fortnite was the big thing. But then once Aiden got into the trend of full camera, I'm going to have a rapper on, it became more digestible for everybody. Because not everybody wants to watch video games, but anyone can appreciate a rapper stream. Anybody. Because it's just the vibe of it is so good because you have a streamer and a rapper.

It's such a good-It's also what you said earlier about-I think it would be hilarious, bro.

Even a Kodak would be hilarious. Oh, I love Kodak.

Yeah. Well, I was going to say the concept is the same thing you said earlier about you making content, for example, on your TikTok, that's just you doing something that's not on stream and not typical. Having a rapper, no one knows how rappers really are for the most part because they're not really portraying their life in that way. So I think when they pull up on stream, you're just like, Oh, shit, this is completely different.

Exactly. You see them in a different... What we were talking about earlier with recording TikToks behind the scenes. People love to see rappers in a chair on a stream interacting with this guy. It's so different than, oh, you just see their albums. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, promo stuff. Or maybe they'll do an interview here and there, but a lot of rappers don't. Especially Cardi. Cardi's really rare. He used to do interviews, but when that stream got announced, it was the biggest thing ever. It would have 700,000 viewers. You know what I mean?

How many TikTok drops in your drive?

Dude, this guy and your girl is getting interesting.

Trust me, I know. He'll text me and call me about it.

What the fuck?

What the fuck?

I think you have to go.

I don't think-Cyne is a bit heartbroken. He's a bit heartbroken.

He called me personally. He was like, Yo, I'm going to press this kid.

Seriously, though, congrats on all your success.Thanks, man.Yeah.

You could tell, bro. You're fucking smart. You got a good hand on your shoulders.

We'll do something soon.

You even fired me up, man.

Thank you, bro.

Jinks, he's the man. We got to do some more content for sure, bro.

No, yeah. One of these days, bro, I'll get hammered for a Nelk video. That'd be sick.Let's do it.Bye, brother.

All right, let's go.