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What's up, giggler?

Gary, fix the WiFi.

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me. My glorious little gigglers. Some admin. Some admin. Some housekeeping.

Housekeeping, if you will, if we knew how to do it. We are officially announcing our fall tour dates.

Our 2024 Giggly Squad Club Giggly.

We're calling it Club Giggly.

Because we don't want to go to a club. No. We don't want to go out.

No. But this is- If you're going to go out, you want to be sitting the whole time and gossiping. Sitting the whole time. This is Club Giggly, but think of it as basically the girls bathroom of a club where you feel safe but buzzed.

Yes. There's not a straight man in the vicinity.

If they are, they're getting eviscerated. We're calling it Club Giggly, and we're so excited. It's going to be a whole new show if you've been to our previous shows. It's going to be a whole new show on the road and all new locations and coming back to other locations, too.

We're going to 8,000 cities.

We're finally going to Florida.

I mean, thank God.

It's going to go on presale on Wednesday.

You know how you can... Hold on. You know how you can Google your birthday and then what happened in Florida on that day? That's so crazy. I can't wait to see who gets arrested the day the Giggly Squats. Just what's the news story?

What man gets bit by an alligator? Yeah. Allegators are crazy. People don't talk about- Allegators? Yeah.

We're so brainwave because I was actually talking about allegators this weekend Because there was a lawn gnome in the shape of an alligator, and I thought that it was real. And I was like, that's just like lawn gnome is so Charleston-coated. So Charleston.

Lawn gnome.

Well, if it's not an actual gnome, what is it? Like a lawn Statue? Sorry. I don't know. I call all things on the lawn that are gnomes. It's all a gnome. Did you know that when alligators are killing you, they spin you around?

Who told you that and why? Craig told me. That's the most dude shit I've ever... Chris is like, nodding. He's all pumped up now. Yeah, they twirl you around.

Yeah, what is it called? Like the death spiral or something. I was like, okay, we could have lived without knowing that. They bring you to the bottom of the water. And they spin you around and that's how you die.

Bite off my head like someone with fucking empathy.

Go to therapy.

The things that get us to do instead of going to therapy.

It's like, okay, guys, it's a bit dramatic. You have crazy teeth. Just bite us. You don't have to do a whole performance art.

Now I'm like Team Sharks. No, I'm like, whole team.

Justice for Sharks. They're like, Chomp and see ya.

They're like, I have things to do. Also, sometimes they'll just bite you and they don't even care to kill you. They're just like, Oh, that didn't taste good.

They also can't see, so they're probably like, Sorry. I didn't know.

They're like, Oh, my God, I'm gluten free. I'm so beyond.

I'm sorry. Imagine you get bit by a shark and it throws it up. It's just like, Ew. Take your leg back, you vegan.

It's like you didn't even enjoy my fucking flesh. You're like, Ew.

Anyways, alligators are on my fucking list.

On that note, there's this TikTok going around where people are- How we got from the tour to being killed. Literally, Grace is shaking her head. She's like, your only job was to promote the tour. And Paige was like, I have to get something off my chest mid announcement of the tour.

No, it's really getting to me these days.

There's this TikTok being like, if you could just say something weird, no one would judge you, say it. Say the weird thing. So I've actually been into this. So I'll wait and see. One girl, she starts talking about dinosaurs. Did you see this one? She was like, All we actually know about dinosaurs are the bones. And she's like, We don't know that they looked like dinosaurs. She showed this crazy skeleton and how it would look as a dinosaur. She goes, But if it had fur and feathers, it looks like this. It was a literal rabbit. She was like, All dinosaurs potentially could have been adorable, just furry creatures that were making look like these insane animals.

Like monstrous animals that are mean. Yeah. For example- It could have been a giant bunny is actually a T-rex.

Just a bunch of Teletuppies running around.

That's a great way to describe it. You think of a bear.

It's adorable.

So they don't know if they have fur or not. They're just like, Oh, we don't think they did.

Well, apparently, there's been some studies thinking that there may have been feathers back in the day. I think there was. So they could have been- I love a feather moment. They could have had a fucking boa and been gorgeous in fashion.

I mean, have you ever seen an ostrich? Just stunning. Yes.

So I think there's going to be a time when we're all dead and they'll look back at our skeletons and they're going to assume that we all looked like dinosaurs when it's like, no, I have long hair.

I don't have my hair red. You guys don't even know about it. I'm a cowboy.

By the way, I think I'm going more red.

I want you to.

But I'm nervous because my hairdresser told me not to bleach it, but I think I might just go rogue. Like, bleach to go red.

See, I'm so bad when it comes to dying your hair. I know if you're a brunette and you want to be blonde, you have to bleach it. But since the red is dark, it won't take to what your dark hair. You to go lighter for it to be a little more red.

I think I'm going to balayage it. Okay. If you don't know what balayage is, good for you. No, but good for you. You shouldn't have to know what balayage is. Also, saying balayage makes me want to punch myself in the face.

I was scared that you were going to say spell balayage because I actually started to sweat. We love talking all things girly, so we're so excited to be partnering with L'Oréal Lash Paradise. I'm obsessed with their mascara, but one reason that people wouldn't think I'm I'm obsessed with it for. I like that it's pink, and I like that it looks good in my makeup case. People don't talk about the esthetic of your makeup case.

It makes you feel better putting it on when you're like, This is the vibe. Also, I do have to say this is the number one mascara. This is what I use.

I was going to say as a connoisseur of mascara because I couldn't use mascara for so long when I used to get eyelash extensions.

Can we talk about your last journey? Did you like the process of fake lashes?

I would never go back. I mean, I would never or go get a lash extension. You'd have to literally kidnap me in the middle of the night to get a lash extension.

I remember the first time I saw you without fake lashes, and I thought you looked so elegant and regal. But I was like, Oh, my God. She has the prettiest almond-shaped eyes, where sometimes when people put the fake stuff- It changes the shape of your eye. My mom always said, Put a little lip and a little mascara, and that's all you need.

No, it's so true. Now that Clean Girl esthetic is out, I'm into having more mascara and it being just more about your eyes.

I'm obsessed with this look you have right now because I do cat eyes with liquid liner and mascara. But yours right now gives the same cat eye look, but it's not as in your face. I feel like it's good night, day, time.

I put a little eyeliner in the corner. But also what I've just noticed is you don't do a bottom lash.

No.

You don't do mascara on the bottom ever? No. You need to start.

I have abnormally, like Humblebrag really long, curly, lower lashes. So if I put it on, it gets all over my face.

We're split down the middle with this one then. I just think it has a little something extra.

Can you tell I don't have it on the bottom? Yeah. So how long has this been a thing? How long have you been like, I'll tell her one day that this is pissing me off.

Honestly, this is the first time I've really noticed it. I feel like you really can do a full makeup look with just your eyes and feel put together for the day.

If it's clumpy, I will start pulling it off. I used to go to school with my mascara on in the morning, and then by the end of the day, there'd be no mascara on because I've been picking my eyes all day.

It's just all black under your eye.

It was a mess. I need a mascara that's not clumpy and really elongates because I have curly lashes. That's why the L'Oréal Lash Paradise mascara is What is that, girl?

You have a thick eyelash. I feel like I actually have a little bit of a thinner lash in general. That's why I like it. I feel like it makes them look like I have two times more lashes than I actually have. I also have this technique that I've been doing. Instead of starting at the bottom and going all the way up to the top, I start at the top and just do the tips. Then in my second layer is when I go to the bottom.

Do you want to hear my trick? I just leave it like this, and then I close my eyes onto it. No. One of my girlfriends in college taught me, you just put it there and then you close it. So you're not brushing it.

And you've done it ever since.

You can wear it for 24 hours and I'm not a touch-up girl. I'm I'm not trying to touch up. Right.

Well, that's the only thing I don't touch up.

The mascara. Yeah. I'm obsessed with it. Me too. I do think there's some days I do not want to put foundation. I do not want to put lipstick, but I want to look like I care about life.

And mascara is the only thing in my makeup case that isn't dirty. Everything else has foundation on it. I love L'Oréal's Lash Paradise because I'm over clean girl esthetic and I'm all about Black Cat energy in all facets my life, especially my eye shadow and my mascara and just my eye look in general. So obsessed.

The interview with the Montana Boys, I did not anticipate to have the cultural attraction that it- I loved every second of it.

I was glued to my TV.

I think I want to put one more out. But I do have to say before I interviewed them, I felt this giddiness that I haven't felt before an interview before with celebrities. Just a lot of their teams, I'll send 50 questions, and then they'll come with seven that are like, What do you eat for breakfast? I'm like, I'll make this funny. That's my job. Their team was like, Ask them anything. I was like, Anything? They were like, Yeah, we'll just check it right before. I felt this high. I haven't felt in year. Like a child playing.

You felt like Barbara Walters interviewing Whitney Houston or something. She's like, I don't do crack. Crack is what?

So I get there and they're young. They look like they just got off the bus from a college game.

No, they're How old are they?

They were giving 18. Like 24.

They're right out of college.

I hate to say this, but 11-year-olds in New York are smoking crack. In Montana, they're an 11-year-old Newyorker.

Okay, yeah. An 11-year-old Newyorker, low-key all across the street. I'm scared.

He just started eating sushi this year. He actually didn't know what sushi was when he said it out loud.

He thought I was just going to agree with him. A group of 12-year-old boys and one has a bike and one has a scooter. If there's construction workers on the other side of the street, I'd rather go to the construction workers. I'm crossing the street.

No, I mean, the kids are juuling at seven years old in New York, and they're on the subway yelling at people.

Yeah, they're like, Fucking move.

But no, they were so sweet, so nice. I think the videos, people were confused like, Are they dumb? Are they in on the joke? I think that's the beauty of art. Yes. We will never know. It's like the Mona Lisa. It's Is she smiling? Is she not? That's for you to figure out.

I guess we'll never know.

I guess we'll never know. But I was messing with them after and they were dying laughing.

This is such a page-like thing. I'm watching the video and I couldn't stop staring at their jeans. I haven't seen jeans like that. I feel like on a guy in a while, I felt like...

Like tight?

No, I just felt like... It's for Rodden. It's where my dad gets jeans. Do you know what I mean? My dad will come home with four pairs of jeans, and it all together was $12. I'm like, Where do you get these jeans?

My favorite line was actually not captured on camera, and I think they were joking, but we did it in front of a Trader Joe's, and he was like, Who's Joe? What's Trader Joe's? I was like, Wait, you guys are so fucking cute. Because I was like, We live such different lives, and that's what I love about interviews.

I love men like that for the girls because manipulation is so easy. It's like, they don't even know what's I love that for them.

I love taking them on this emotional manipulative journey of like, What am I going to say next? I think they were scared, but they were such good sports. They were hilarious. I'm a fan. Of the Montana Boys. I'm a fan of the Montana Boys. Very differently, I had an interview with Jennifer Lopez, which has not aird yet.

Is just an iconic in itself. Also great outfit.

I style... I did it myself. Yeah, you looked really good. I did it myself. Well, it's with the brand Intimissimi, which is this Italian brand. I'll give you guys the play-by-play. I'm going to interview JLo. I'm pretty nervous. Because this is pretty big.

I would say you're... Okay, this is my question. Were you more or less nervous to interview JLo or Jennifer Lawrence?

I was so nervous with Jennifer and the Jonas Brothers because they were also very early on where I still was like, Why are they letting me do this? I thought they were going to be like, Hey, can you remove her? Now I almost felt like I was moving to the next level of professionalism where I'm like, I've done this. I can do it. I know what I'm doing. I was nervous just that things could go wrong and JLo would be like- She's an A-list celebrity. Yeah. Then also that it just wouldn't be that good of an interview and it's like, Okay, so you wasted this great opportunity with JLo.

You wasted Jennifer Lopez's time.

Which I- Nobody wants to do. Nobody wants to do.

She has movies to make.

She has movies, documentaries, books. She's got shit to do. I just get an Uber like a normal day, and it's on 14th Street, something at the Intimism E-Storm. As we're driving up, it's like all those documentaries where there's just crowds of people across the street, crowds of people in front of it, and then a lane. Did they know it was for her? That's the thing about New Yorkers. I feel like some people do. But then New Yorkers, if they see a crowd, they'll just stand there.

Yeah, I never get that.

I think half the New Yorkers are just like, Let's see what happens.

You can hire people to stand in line for you, like line holders.

For clubs and stuff to make it look more popular?

No. Or launches. No. If there's a sample sale or exclusive whatever's in New York, you can hire people to wait in line.

What's that dance that people do that's like...

A flashmob? A flashmob. I can't believe that. How the fuck did I Why did you just do that? Because never once in our friendship have we ever spoken about flash mob.

Use the words flash mob. I don't think we've used them separately together. We've never said it.

No, flash mob. I've never seen one in real life. Do you remember when flash mobs were trending?

Where if you didn't get proposed to with a flash mob, he didn't love you.

I feel like that would be a day of torture. If I'm just walking down the streets of New York City and all of a sudden I'm in the middle of a flash mob, I'd actually start crying. I hate Men in the Arts.

I'd be the worst in a flashmob because I'd be like, I'd be like, forgetting. I was like, You've one job and you can't remember the fucking moves. The worst part about it is there's tons of people, and he parks, obviously, where I'm going in, which is this store. I realized, Oh, no. You're going to get out of the car. Everyone's going to think that I'm JLo, and then I'm going to- They wasted the good surprise on you. I'm going to disappoint a ton of people, which is what I've done my whole childhood. It's just going to retrigger all my past trauma. I'm like, Okay, how do we get out of this car and avoid the- Are you immediately apologize.

You open the door, you're like, Sorry, sorry. No, literally. Sorry.

So the second I get out the car, I'm like, How would JLo not get out the car? So I put out my foot. So I'm like, not JLo's foot. And I'm like, Oh, that could be JLo's foot. I don't know.

It's Jailo doesn't have these caps. Jlo didn't fucking play tennis.

She just had these caps. And immediately, I roll out and just turn into the crowd. I just did not want that moment where people went, Oh. I don't think I would have recovered.

I I would have never.

I wanted to be a publicist. You don't know I'm there. I'm just, so I literally crawl out like Golem, and I'm just walking in head down. Then I walk in, and it's like, there's no other people doing press. I think Vogue was there, which I don't know. They just said Vogue.

I think it was Anna Wintour, but I don't know.

They just said Vogue, but I don't know where they were, what the Vogue energy was. All the people there were Italian, and It smells good. Everything's beautiful. Immediately, I'm like, I have to tell everyone I'm half Italian.

You have to. That's part of being Italian is if you meet someone else who's Italian, you have to be like, Hey, I'm also Italian.

They're speaking in an Italian accent. I come up to this group and I'm like, Hey, guys, just want you to know I'm here. The family, we're family. I know what's going on. I support the movement. They were laughing and I was like, Okay. Then they go upstairs and her manager and agent from the documentary are just sitting at this cafe they have upstairs.

Did you watch her documentary? Yes.

I've watched everything. I've watched everything with JLo.

Because you're a good reporter, you do your research.

And also I've seen every documentary, The Sun, ever. I've watched hers multiple times, her halftime one. But they're sitting there and I'm really excited because I'm like, that's the agent. They're talking about serious things. And then I realized people are just watching. There's a huge window watching the crowd waiting for Jen. Sorry, Jen.

Jlo. I mean.

Jlo to come. And then I'm like, this is crazy. Then I realized I can stand. We're all just admiring this crazy thing. Then they were like, okay, hair and makeup, she's here. Everyone was like, and she walks out and it was crazy.

Does she glow? Yeah.

Well, she was wearing this gorgeous pink dress.

Pink David Kholma dress. Yeah, I've seen that.

She had her typical JLo Ray band type things. Then she looks up and I waved because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't know what to do. She waved back. I'm like, Oh, she waved. I'm like, You're about to interview her. Jlo waved. She waved. I go, She saw me. Everyone's like, Shut the fuck up. I'm like, I'm Italian. I'm thinking they were like, She might have to do hair makeup when she gets in. We don't know. I was like, Dude, my whole day is reserved for JLo. I will sit here for eight hours, whatever you guys need. Also, I'm sweating because I was wearing this really nice cashmere sweater they gave me, but it was hot out. I'm about to interview JLo. It was gray. Yes. They were like, Hey, can we switch out your top? I I was like, That would actually be amazing. They were so nice about it, but they were like, You're not going to interview JLo looking like that. They're like, You look like you pissed your pits.

Wait, imagine if JLo was like, I'm not going to be on camera. She turns out to whisper and she's like, Is this the What else we could do?

Is she okay?

She's like, Who booked Hannah? Someone's like, I did. She's like, Great, you're fired.

I'm like, Okay. They're like, Don't worry, she's coming, but she's not going to immediately be ready. Everyone's been waiting for her to come, right? I go I switched my shirt. As I'm switching my shirt, she's walking in. Oh my God. I was hiding from her so she wouldn't see. With celebrities, I'm such a little bitch. You know, some people are just normal. Next to me, they I'm best friends with them. I'm not that person. I'd rather have no interaction than possibly have a weird one. I don't want to assume that you want to talk to me ever. I'm immediately staying out of the way and someone had to literally grab me and be like, You here to talk to her. I was like, Are you sure she's ready? She basically was like, Let's go right now. Let's go. Immediately, I go up. Of course, I look at her and go, I was born in the Bronx. Which, first of all, it is true. I lived there in Riverdale for two years, then moved to Park Slope.

You're like, I also enjoy an orange drink.

This is the thing. You think with a normal person, I wouldn't go up to If I was just meeting you, I wouldn't immediately be like, Oh, I also like to wear shoes. You're like, I don't care. I don't care. She probably deals with this all day. Immediately, I'm like, Okay, we start. But she was like, Oh. Nice. She Cool.

Gold star. You didn't give her something to follow up with.

No.

Then she was like, What hospital?

Because people don't treat celebrities like humans. We're just like, But I also was trying to be like, Look, we're both from New York City. I have a fat ass. Not Nothing's going to... Let's fucking buy, bitch.

Let's go. My husband has an accent.

Then I look at her and I was like... Which now I'm saying it a lot. I realized I look at her and I just go, Are you tired? Because I'm trying to be like, We're girls. But that's how you connect.

We're girls. Then I realized- Did she say, yeah?

Did she think that I was saying she looked tired, which is the meanest thing you could do to someone? You literally offended her. I go, Are you tired? Because you look like shit. But I go, Are you tired? She looks at me and I was like, You've been fucking everywhere. That's the first question ask all these celebs because they're London yesterday. That's a great question. I like to just stop and pause and be like, How do you do it?

When's the last time you napped?

It's like Kelly Murphy who went on a whole speech about how he just sleeps. I was like, Thank you. But she just was like, No, I feel good. I was like, That's what J Lo would say.

Yeah, that's a lie.

Then she was saying how she was like, dancing. She was like, I've been dancing all the time. I was like, as JLo would.

She has three kids. Two or three kids.

It was funny. I was watching her watch her Missing Me campaign that was playing, and she made a comment about something, and I'm like, Oh, my God, she's just human. She was judging herself.

What does she smell like? Is it a sweet scent or is it more of a men's cologne? No, for sure sweet. No, for sure sweet.

But I also was a little blacking out. I wasn't aware of my surroundings, what was going on. I was just put sentences together. But she was immediately cool, good. I immediately felt good. Yeah, you felt okay. We went in and I'm going to post the first video today, and she was talkative. I go in assuming they don't want to be here and they don't want to talk to me and how do I make the most of it?

That's a great head space to be in all the time. Because it's like, I'm ready for- I know that everyone hates me here.

I'm ready for the worst. Under Promise, Over Deliver. Also, I just dealt with the Montana boys who did not form a full sentence the whole time, but it was hilarious. I asked her some broad questions, and she was just going on. Oh, good. Talking. I think her team was even that she seemed passionate about it. Then towards the end, I actually was trying to wrap it up. I was like, I've taken enough of this woman's time. She was adding on to it.

Was she funny?

I feel like I was making her laugh. I told her I wear granny panties. She reacted how you would react.

She was like, Oh, I can't believe you told Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer fucking Lopez. That my friend Hannah Berner exclusively wears granny panties.

Then she was like, Why wouldn't she wear a thong? Then I I froze because I have my reasons, but I don't want to get into it. But are they JLo-appropriate? Then I go, Well, I have a big butt like you, and I don't want to be flapping around. She goes, Oh, to each their own? She basically said that. I was like, Okay.

Is that why you don't wear a thon? No, no, no.

What does flapping even mean? Me and my lady are flapping.

You panicked.

You were like, Oh, my. But you You know what I try to say? It's about the vibes. People remember what you say. They remember how you make them feel. Hopefully, I made her feel safe and welcome with me bringing up granny panties. I asked her a lot about confidence and aging because if you think about it, a lot of women, by the time they turn 50, do you remember the Amy Schumer sketch? Your Last Fuckable Day?

No.

It's one of the greatest sketches ever. Everyone go on YouTube. It has Julie Dreyfus, two other people who are amazing.

Like an SNL skit?

I think Tina Faye's in it. It was on Amy Schumer's show. She basically was like, Oh, what are you guys up to? They're all having... They're at a picnic. They were like, Oh, we're celebrating her last fuckable day. Amy Schumer was like, What? They were like, Yeah, she now is going to get roles for the mom or the sad neighbor. They were just talking about- How old? I think she turned 40 or something or 35. She was like, I'm so excited to not have to be fuckable anymore. It's an amazing sketch.

Yeah, because that's so true.

But that's why I think we have to give kudos to JLo, where JLo squashed that narrative so much, where JLo will always be a sex symbol and fuckable. So many times, the industry really wants old women to disappear. Absolutely. From the news to, I mean, comedy to models. Once you get older, please disappear.

There's really only six, I feel like, really famous actresses that are in their 60s and '70s that still work. They picked one, they're like, We'll stick with you forever until you die.

There's been this recent amazing surge of Jamie Lee Curtis and the woman from Everything Ever were All At Once. She won the Oscar. Yeah, yes. Michelle...

Can you tell me who she is? Michelle Pfeiffer?

No.

I love Michelle Pfeiffer. I don't know why.

But traditionally, especially in old Hollywood, they would take women to the back of the barn. What? And just...

Kill them? No.

When they were done using them like horses. Shut up. Obviously, I'm joking. I was like, Wait, are you talking...

Like, legit telling me about someone's murder? I was like, What documentary are you watching?

But basically, once you were a certain age, entertainment wanted nothing to do with you.

People should give JLo... I always think of it, and I feel like sometimes people don't think of it this way. Okay, people are getting mad at JLo sometimes. She's always doing her thing. She loves herself, whatever. She's a Leo. People don't give her credit for how long she's been famous. To be able to sustain that type of celebrity from your 20s to your 50s, that's a lot of work. That's a lot of anxiety.

For sure. Also, I think people are missing the point of the documentary. Ben Affleck has this amazing point where he's just alcohol. Sometimes Jennifer acts addicted to the attention and the likes the views. I tried to tell her, just like alcohol, it doesn't cure the problem. It's you have to love yourself. It was fucking heavy.

Wait, just Ben. I know. I feel like he just spoke to my soul.

But everyone can understand where you're like, it stems from you not feeling good enough that you constantly need affirmation from other people. It's not a reason to hate someone. Also, let's not forget, she's the first Latina woman to ever make a million dollars in a film. To do that-Wait, that's insane. To do that, you have to be delusional. You have to be like, I'm the... You have to have that attitude. She paved the way for so many fucking people.

No, that's Selena movie. I feel like I still watch that once a year.

Yeah. Also, the fashion. Also, shout out to Selena.

Yeah. I mean, we didn't know. We weren't even born yet. We weren't born, but I feel connected. But I feel bad. Yeah, I feel connected to her. You want to know someone I don't feel connected to? Who?

Don't say Jojo Siwa. Taylor Swift.

I just have a few things to say What about Taylor Swift's album? Can you please do a compliment sandwich? First of all, the amount of work she had to put out a double album. I mean, the woman doesn't sleep. She must just be work, work, work, work, work. I love when she speaks her truth, I truly, truly do. I love that it's getting so much praise. I love that her fans are so excited. I'm most excited that her fans are so excited. But Kimberly Noelle Kardashian is my Lord and savior. They could never make me hate her. They could never make me hate her.

We're also trying to figure out if one of them is a giggler or they're both gigglers.

Who? Taylor or Kim?

Kim, if you're a giggler, give us a sign.

It's honestly none of our business, but I will say this.

It's not our business how you spend your time listening to podcast.

Taylor, make a song about anyone you want. Spill the fucking tea, do whatever you want. The one line that your daughter is going to come home singing this song, and we're both going to know it's about me because I've been so emotional lately. All I could think about was like, okay, so now when North goes to school and every girl in her school in the fourth fucking grade is talking about the Taylor Swift album, all she's going to know is that Taylor Swift hates her mom and probably hates her and hates that family. And that made me so sad.

The Italian side of us is like, oh, don't get family involved.

Yeah, I was like, I don't know if you needed to say the one sentence about her daughter.

But I do have to say Taylor, like Italians, does not forget.

I shouldn't forget. No, and I'm not mad about that. I'm not mad about the song.

It's a little bit like someone... Let's say when someone's abused in a way and then the person responds to the abuse and everyone gets mad at how they responded to the abuse, but really you felt abused. Everyone's living in their own narrative of everyone's... And that's what Taylor talks about, how she She's the villain in other people's stories. It's like, but yet, that was a fucking...

I felt it. I'm so for calling someone out who did something wrong to you and all of America thought it was one way and you being like, actually, let me drop some knowledge on you. I love that. But when it brings in a child, I was like, oh.

Did Kim respond in any way?

I don't think so.

No. I've had situations in my past We're like, Aren't we mad at Kanye? Aren't we always? But sometimes it's like, let's focus on the men.

Let's not forget. I'm sure there's so much more. I don't even know what they're fighting about still. I actually literally don't know what they're still fighting about or what even- I do. Just the Grammy thing? No. It started with that. But it started with that.

That's when she was like, I haven't been wanting to be a part of this narrative for so long.

Then Kanye was like, I asked her for permission to put this in the song, and Taylor actually said no, but then they lied and said that she said yes, right?

She said yes, but he didn't tell her that he was going to call her a bitch in the song. It said, I made that bitch famous. They put out a recording, and it never showed her saying yes to that, but it was her being like, Oh, yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for telling me. That's her whole thing of they skewed the narrative and made me seem like a monster. Then Taylor Swift basically got canceled. Her whole career was over. Taylor Swift is over party. Taylor Swift is a manipulative fit. We hate Taylor. The pain that was caused. It was crazy.

Yeah, probably insane.

But then with Kim, she's supporting her husband. Not anymore, clearly. I feel like the beef needs to get settled.

I also squash that beef.

But I do have to say no one owes... If Taylor doesn't want an apology, that's another thing, too.

Right. I'm not saying Taylor shouldn't have said that whole song about Kim. She could make a song How about anyone? Telling them to fuck off. I love that energy. But it just made me feel sad for the kids.

I would argue the K-I-M and thank you, Amy, a little too on the nose. She could have just done a K. Why didn't she just do K?

Or she could have just done the song, and it was called Thank You, Amy. Because people already knew. Because in the song, too, and she's like, Oh, I didn't add any discerning factors. Just your name.

But the overall concept of the song, I think all of us take with us. Did you listen to it? Listen to it? No. I listened to it on a plane. Basically, it's fucking crazy.

The whole album you listened to?

I listened to a lot of it because I was on planes all... I got sick on fucking planes all week.

I don't even want to hear it, Hannah, because every time I call you out for something insane, like taking a shit in the middle of a bodega or wearing Delta headphones, a week later, it happens to me.

It literally- I can't control the universe. I can't control the karmic forces.

I get to the airport and I'm just like, There's no way. There's literally no way I don't have my headphones or my backup headphones. You forgot both headphones. Both of them. I was like, What was I doing? And then I had to get fucking wired headphones.

And they're like $23.

No, I literally was walking through JFK and I was like, This fucking bitch.

In my head, I was- What was your experience? Do you feel grounded? You were like, these are the good old days. You felt nostalgic.

I actually did feel a certain type of way. I was like, I'm just a kid traveling. I'm not...

I know people complain about the wires getting... But there's something cute about your biggest issue in that moment is getting the wires undone.

Yeah. I was just like, obviously, there's not even WiFi. Well, here's what it was. There was obviously no WiFi on the Delta flight. Would the Bluetooth have worked? Yes, the Bluetooth would have worked.

I still understand.

But I bought the wrong headphones I bought the headphones for my phone, to plug it into my phone, not realizing that my iPad is a different Jack. That's not your fault. I couldn't even watch my iPad, so I was double cursing you in my head on the blind. I was like, She did this.

You will just send me a short cold text, and I'm like, We'll talk about this on Monday.

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Also, I felt like such an old person because I was trying to edit the Montana Boys video in these hotels that had the worst internet, and I have to download big video files. I'm texting Grace. I'm like, these fucking hotels don't have internet. Grace is like, Just use your phone as a hotspot. I was like, Do I look like someone who knows how to use her phone as a hotspot?

Oh, I don't know how to do that I didn't think that...

I think I tried once and I was like, that's made up Bluetooth.

We actually, I think both of us together, are very against technology advances.

I mean, we have not started ChatGPT.

We don't like change.

Should we put out episode that's ChatGPT of Giggly Squad? See what they would say?

My conspiracy theorist boyfriend obsessed with ChatGPT. There's also an app that you can just talk back to it and ask it things. He loves that.

Nathan Mcatosh is a hilarious comedian. He just had a YouTube special out. He basically was like...

Wait, was that on Netflix?

No, it's on YouTube. But he's this cute red head, and he was like, What's the one thing that we're... I'm going to butcher this joke. I actually forget it. But he was like, What's the one thing that we're so afraid of that could possibly ruin the world? The nerds are like, Let's make it AI. It's the only thing... He's like, What's the only thing that humans... We're not the dominant force. Yeah, AI. Ai. Let's create it. I'm obsessed with the Apocalypse.

Except if there's... I do think about it in this way, too. If there's a world where everyone gets their own AI person that lives in their house. Hannah, think about it. If there's an AI in your home, imagine you could just be like, Hey, I would love a quesadilla right now. Like a Butler. Like a Butler. Yeah, but it's AI.

But that's literally how all these movies begin because the next you know the Butler, I'm like, Why are you Why are you holding the knife? Yeah, but think about that. Why are you holding the knife like that?

Think about those six months where you're just getting weighted on because then I'd be ready to go. Wait, I just want to- I feel like my AI wouldn't turn against me.

Wait, I want to play this. Why would it to me to think that humans, we have no natural predators? None. And we made one with AI.

It's like if salmon invented grizzly bears. That's true. That's true. That really got you.

I was listening to the Taylor Swift album. It's funny because wasn't AI putting out Taylor Swift songs? Also, when I did my Taylor Swift song about the Touchdown, I feel like it was like her... I knew I was playing, playing in the end. I feel like it was the same song.

I No, AI put out nudes of her. It's so fucked up. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah. But I think it's good for the future, though, because then whenever your nude does leak, you go, That's AI.

Okay, this is the sick part of my brain. I'm like, What would AI make my nude look like? Would it look better than my actual nude? I did want to see, What would it look like? Dude, it's crazy. That's highly illegal.

But you're just for me.

I'm like, Yeah, what if I made it for just myself? I just want to see.

When you want to send nudes, you just AI it and send it to guys.

I feel like I was doing that years ago because I had one girlfriend where I think her literal fucking job was to sit home and take nudes. She had so many. Certain times when I would be asked for one, I would be like, I'm just not doing that, and I don't even like you. I would text her and be like, Can you just send me a nude where your head's not in it, it's just your ass? She'd be like, Yeah. I would just send I would have them all saved in my phone because she didn't give a shit at all.

I have so many questions. Yeah. First of all, you are on MTV Cafe. Was her butt similar to your butt?

Not at all. She had such a good ass. It was J Lo. It was J Lo. It was literally four times bigger than that. This bitch went to hit classes every morning. I was like, Hey, could you send me a pic in that black underwear that you love so much?

You guys really like when you pose with your leg.

I love when you poke it out a little and your nails in it. I wonder if anyone ever caught on.

Wait, you're... Why? I don't want to say a C word.

But also, I didn't find anything wrong with it. I feel like some guys would be like, But that's like you're lying. So what?

I don't care. Guys, whenever they would say anything about like, like, pussy or something, I would just find a Google image of a cat lying on their back and I would send it. I thought it was so funny I was 16.

I mean, that's funny.

I thought it was hilarious. They'd be like, That's not funny. I'd be like, That's my pussy.

It's also just sometimes why you lied about your height, that's not my ass. So what?

Same thing. I was always, unless I was in a relationship for a long time, I was very anti-nudes. But I'm also... That's me with no cigarettes. Wait, me too. I'm very anti-nudes because in my head, I thought that I was either the famous or the president.

Wait, Hannah, I love that you thought that you were going to be the president because I love it so fucking much.

No, I would tell people, I'd be like, If I become president one day, I can't have this out. Did I actually believe it? No, but I meant like, I'm going to be something, and this can not... Your fucking bullshit cannot come back to get me.

Hannah, that's why I wouldn't drink at parties in high school when they would put it on my space. I'm like, no, guys, I'm going to be famous, and I can't have these photos of me drinking at 16.

Meanwhile, that's all you do for a living now is drink.

Yeah, literally was made to drink.

No, but I really... It's not like I thought I was better than anyone. I just was like, no, you had a different feeling inside. I had a feeling, and I also had parents who were very tough on me where they were strict, and I was just like, this is not worth it. I was like, if you like me, I don't have to send you a picture of my butt hole.

It's so funny because literally two weeks ago, I don't know what Craig and I were talking about, and I go, You know what's crazy is that there are people in the world that are like, Hey, I actually could be the president. I could run the country. I go, And they have to be naturally narcissistic to think, Oh, I could do it. Yes. And Craig was just agreeing with me, and he was like, Yeah, no, that's crazy. Am I kidding? Four days later, he goes, I think I could be President. It's just like...

But this is the thing. It's not just narcissism. Sometimes it's more complex where it's like back to the JLo thing, where they, for whatever reason, feel like they're missing something, and they think doing something that incredible will heal all of their trauma.

Has anyone looked at pictures when presidents go in the first year and then they get out the fourth year, how much they've aged?

That was me through our TV.

That alone, I'd be like, No, thank you. Unless we have a doctor on call that's shooting me up with Botox every day. No, thank you.

But that's why we do have to appreciate. What I appreciate about Taylor Swift is a lot of people get scared of success. Or if something happens that's good, they're like, Oh, fuck. Now I feel more pressure. That's why a lot of people stop putting out albums. They're just like, I can't keep up.

There's no way Taylor... I would love for Taylor, because she's obviously the biggest pop star in the fucking world. I'd love for her to say, What does she do? And she gets really anxious because there's no way this girl is just living every day.

Did you watch Miss Americana? Yeah. She had some really good moments where she was just talking about, In the past, if I saw this picture of me, I would spiral and I wouldn't eat.

But Miss Americana, she wasn't even... She was obviously huge then, But over the past three years, it's been insane.

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I wonder if the therapist is ever like, Oh, you're gaslighting her. It's just a personal like, No, that was rude. A trigger match?

But it's just you can start paying people for everything you need. But just like the Billy Adish documentary, Billy suffers from Tourette's when her exact... You're dealing with heightened emotions, but also that's how these people want to live their life. Her life is insane.

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This song, though, back to the Amy one, the overall message was basically all the stuff that I went through and the pain that was caused caused me to be where I am now. So thank you. Revenge. That feels so close to me because it's so true where whenever something horrible happens to me, that is my rebirth. I literally will be stagnant until a breakup, losing a job, having a mental breakdown of some sort. I feel like this is with a lot of women and gays. I feel like men, after a breakup, will just go with the next girl because they don't want to process the emotions and they need a girl to make them feel good. When a girl is in a breakup, she's like, I'm getting new hair, whole new personality. New gym. New wardrobe. Going to an Ivy League school to get a new degree.

Might even move.

She fucking takes it. I really do believe you always level up after these traumas.

A hundred %.

That's I'm so pro-failing. Failing makes you so much stronger.

Well, one quick, easy way that I like to see my progress in life is you go from who your first boyfriend ever was to then who was your next one, and then you just keep going. Again, you sabotaged me. I was so emotional this weekend. What happened? Nothing. That's the thing. Literally nothing. I think since I've been regulating my hormones, my body's been feeling insanely different. Because your testosterone was too high before. My testosterone was way too high. Then the birth control, they were like, Oh, we'll just bring your estrogen up. It's like, No, please don't do that. Now that they're evening out... I'm not kidding. I lost seven pounds doing nothing because I think my body was holding on to so much water weight and inflammation.

Because you sound like one of these TikTok hormone girls.

Yeah, because my hormones were just fucked.

But I feel like everyone's hormones are fucked. They are.

Pretty much 90% of girls' hormones aren't the way they're supposed to be.

Because I have a full I'm growing, and I don't think that's normal.

No, that's not. It's because of your hormones. I have a goat beard. Whenever you got random hairs, your hormones are fucked up. I had really bad skin, and now it's trying to even out, but whatever. We'll deal with that. What was I saying prior?

The girls are good.

Okay, so I'm fine. Then all Saturday night, I just was so anxious about anything that I couldn't stop crying. But I'm laughing because I'm also crying. And Craig's like, thinks I'm on drugs because he's like, I've just never seen you be emotional.

He's like, Can I have some? But he probably loves it.

He loves when I'm vulnerable. And he actually loves. He straight up has Munchausen's because he loves when I'm sick. He loves when I'm sick because I'm very soft and sweet.

That's how I feel about that. When he's sick, I'm like, You're so fucking cute right now.

He's obsessed with me if I have a cough. He's like, Oh, my God. I'm like, Stop.

Wait, I love that we're getting into our mental health moment.

Yeah. The only reason I bring it up is because I've never had that, really. I've been anxious and been like, Oh, my God, I'm about to have a panic attack, but I've never gotten super emotional over my anxiety. It was more because I didn't want to feel like I was frustrated that I was anxious.

That's what happened to me pre-special taping. I called Des, and he didn't know that I was having an anxiety attack, and he was like, Hey. I was like, I just started crying because you were judging your sofa your emotions and you're frustrated. Basically, my therapist told me, First of all, stopping mean to yourself. You're human. Humans feel this emotion. And then also, what if you fucked around and actually processed one emotion?

I was like, How? But how?

That's what school should be. How to process an emotion. I don't need the Pythagorean theorem.

Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. No, if I'm mad.

Basically, it's the concept of to get past anything, you have to go through it. So it's like, you have to whatever is bothering you, you have to fucking deal with. You can't go around it. You can't do external things. It always is going to go back to the source. I'll do 20 external things. A thousand %. So it's like your anxiety will catch up to you. I also realized with my mental health recently, I think I have a form of OCD, and it's not like an intrusive thought that's weird. It'll just be like a thought. Okay. And I I just can't get off of it. As in, for example, I'm editing my special right now, and I gave a note about it. Then I got worried like, Oh, was that the right note to give? Then I just couldn't stop thinking about-Obsessing over it. Obsessing over it. Then I'm like, Oh, is this a big thing? Then something else will happen, and then I have to obsess over that. This goes back to saying, When I was fucking 11 years old, this is how crazy I am. I once turned to my dad in the car, and I'll never forget that I did I said, What are you supposed to think about all day?

He was like, What? Wait. Because I remember sitting there being like, What do I think about? No, but what are you supposed to think about all day. No one teaches you that. Because instead, I have a little bit of ADHD, OCD, where I'll get into a product and obsess over it. I mean, a project, I'll obsess over it. Or with boys, I would obsess over my crush. I love obsessing I'm obsessing over things. But I was like, How do you just exist?

My therapist says, When I get obsessive over things, I'll get obsessed with fixing something that's wrong in someone else's life. She's like, You literally do that because you don't want to face yourself and what's going on wrong in your life? And I'm like, But there's nothing wrong in my life. And she's like, Because you haven't dove into it.

People will be like, Hannah, why are you work so much? I'm like, I'm literally running from my thoughts. The second I have nothing to do, they come at me. They're coming, and I don't trust them. I don't know what they But there is a form of OCD, which is, I think, when you have a thought and you'd like to attach to it, and I have to work on releasing and just being like, nothing comes from you obsessing over this. It's literally just boredom in my brain. It's not bad things. It'll just be like...

I also have anxiety that everyone at all times is trying to sabotage me.

That's a little paranoia.

Oh, no, I'm full paranoia. It's a lot for me to trust any girlfriend. If you become my friend now, I probably won't ever trust you, I feel like. No, that's valid. I'm two in my 30s. I know the people I trust and I know the people I don't. And so I have a hard time.

Well, that's a protection. You're protecting yourself, which reminds me, I have that same thought because you think you're being proactive, being like, If I'm worried about this, it'll never happen because I'm looking out for it. But then you're manifesting it almost. Yeah.

And I think it's also like, I went to an all girls high school. I've had so many girlfriends. I've seen so many girlfriends just turn and be like, And I hate you now. Then as you get older, that doesn't happen as much because you're in your 20s, you're working and whatever. But I still feel that with girls. I'm like, But what if you actually hate me and that's why you want to be my friend?

So funny you brought that up because last night, I convinced myself that this girl that I don't know very well, but she's friends with one of my friends, is mad at me. But not recently. I basically figured out that I think that she might be mad at me at something that happened two years ago. And then I was like, and I don't know her very well, but I think she's mad about something. And then I start freaking out. Then I can't even focus on conversations because I'm feeling this shame. I'm like, You should have known that this girl was mad at you. No, I'm losing my mind. No, this is real. Then I go and I go, I'm not really close with her. But I think she's... I'm like, Maybe she's not close to me because she's mad at me from two years ago.

I really don't want her to be mad at me. I can't wait for you to tell me after the pod who you're talking.

Then I go to her Instagram page and I go, She must have messaged me over the last two years. Look at it. She messaged once.

I go, She's mad at me?

I fully.

Did you DM her and say, Are you mad at me?

I DMed a full paragraph being like, Hey. Because something happened to her that was good. I fully did it and went to sleep. Woke up. Did she respond? This is a girl who's not even in my life. This It was crazy behavior. She responded like, Oh, my God. So chill. Then we continued talking the rest of the day. It wasn't like she just said it to shut me up. She literally like, We've never really spoken before. She was like, Oh, hi.

Yeah. I I get that. I've had that, too. But sometimes I feel like I've had that before in terms of... Something will pop into my brain and I'll be like, I said that to someone five years ago, and I should have never said that. I'll text them and be like, Hey, remember that I apologize for that. They're like, I don't remember that. But I feel like it's almost a cleansing- I was going to say, I think it's healthy because most issues I feel like people deal with is miscommunication.

I'm the person that as long as people know and admit to what they did and know what happened, then they won't do it again because it's the people who don't address it. I'm like, did they even know that they pissed me off? You saying, Hey, I know that hurt you, and I apologize, or are you mad at me? So many friends have been like, Are you mad at me about something? I literally laugh and I love them more because they care.

I always say, Why the fuck would I be mad at you?

Literally after my bachelorette, Taylor struck her.

Wait, I feel like she texted me, too.

She had that hungover anxiety where she thought everyone was mad at her.

She brought it up at lunch the other day. She was, remember when everyone was mad at me at the Bachelorette? No.

Tell her what's the star of the bachelorette. Everyone loves her. It makes you feel less crazy because you guys were all dealing with this. I guess we have consciousness.

I also always think that Grace was on your bachelorette party. Party, but she wasn't. In my head, Grace was on your bachelorette.

Which is the saddest thing.

It's your fault. You shouldn't have gotten married without Grace. We didn't even know Grace yet, which is even crazier.

Do you know what's crazier? We went to get an early lunch with the girls in Soho.

Oh, yeah. We went out.

How did that even happen?

We did an impromptu Ladies Who Lunch.

Which was so fun.

We were It was like fun outfits.

We were going off.

And we just chatted.

We just keeky.

That felt very... I loved that moment so much because I feel like when I first moved to New York, I worked for that moment. Do you know what I mean? I worked for the moment that I'm sitting at a front table at Chibriani with all my girlfriends that I just would literally throw myself in front of a bus for everyone at that table and had leopard pants on. I was like, This is what I dreamt about as a child.

Well, Paige texted me. She goes, You're going to love my outfit. And then I respond, Just warning you, I'm wearing Leopard. And she goes, Are you fucking kidding me? So we both show up with Leopard, like two fucking freaks.

One of the gigglers DM me and was like, Okay, Copenhagen. Copying Hannah's esthetic.

You guys have to have to realize I'm constantly sending you Instagram reels and photos. I'm sending her stuff that I like just to A, her to comment on it, or B, be like, Maybe you'll like this. So I'm trying to always influence Paige Because the biggest compliment is Paige deciding, Wait, that is actually tasteful.

I like that. No, I love the Copenhagen vibes.

We have to go.

Yeah, we do. We should do a giggly squad there.

The best part about the dinner, Linnar, was that we were home by 7:00.

No, it was amazing. We ate. We were home by 7:00. I'd wash my face. I was in bed by 8:30, and I was like, This is adulthood.

Speaking of watching stuff, I just watched-Wait, I saw that you posted that on Instagram, and I keep clicking over it because I'm like, I don't know what this is about. Let me lay down the fucking law. My friend Ali Colbert posted about it, and Ali has good taste. And by good taste, I mean, Ali hates everything. So if Ali likes it, I'm like... Ali will make fun of literally everything. I love that. So it's called Baby Reinder, which you're like, What the fuck is that about? Click on it. It's this Scottish comedian, so that's fun. And it's based on real-life story of him dealing with a stalker. It has the creepiness. Warning you, the first three episodes, they're very interesting, but they're a little like, Okay, where is this going? But I think he was trying to show how...

I watched the first one, but I ended up falling asleep, and then I never went back.

He's basically showing how repetitive and tedious having a stalker is. I'm not trying to be on episode 37, stay with it. It gets good. But episode 4 was the greatest episode of television I've ever watched in my life.

Wow. Because of the story, because of the acting, because of- Because of the story that happens to be real, the perspective that he shows in it. Is it funny at all?

Yes. Okay. Well, there's moments of gold and then moments of seriousness, which I think is why European comics are less trying to be funny all the time, and they'll get deep in, and then I'll know where you're like, why am I laughing?

I went through a phase where I was only watching No, the British, the Irish, the Scottish, they're so fucking genius. If you search on Amazon and Apple, I feel like has the most Irish. That one show, Fleabag, which British. I love anything she's in.

Also, Scottish accent can be really hard to understand, but this guy's really easy. The acting is so fucking good. But basically, something really, really wild happens that he shows from a different perspective that I think is revolutionary. And then also encapsulates life in a way where every time you think something's working and you're like, I figured out life. So many times in movies, it's so simple where something's bad happening, then something good happens, and everyone's happy. That's not how life works. You see, there's so many times where you're like, Oh, this is the end. He's doing whatever. And then life hits you again.

How many episodes?

Six.

Did you finish it? Yeah.

But the thing is, after the first three episodes, Des and I went to sleep last night, and we almost didn't go back to it because we We were like, Okay, we get it. Yeah.

And then we turned on- That's how I felt when I watched the first episode and I was falling asleep. I was like, Okay, I'm probably not going to watch the second one.

Episode four will blow your fucking... But it is intense. It's intense.

I'm going to do that tonight then.

It's intense. Four, five, and six is incredible.

Did you see Victoria Beckham turn 50?

No. She had a birthday party. What was it like?

It looked just great. All the Spice Girls were there.

They have to be coming back, right?

I don't know. Well, you know what's funny is now they're on TikTok. I feel like we're going to lose... Wait, did you see that TikTok is legit, probably going to get banned.

So remember the first time around everyone was freaking out? Why is no one talking about it now?

I don't know because now it went like another layer where it could get banned.

Are we just pretending it's not happening? It's like someone broke up with you and you just keep texting.

That's so girl-coated. We're like, Yeah, sure.

You go, I can't process that emotion right now, so I'm just not going to address it.

Yeah. No, it's literally your boyfriend breaks up with you.

I have to post my Montana Boy's videos. So can you just wait a couple of days?

No, literally.

I mean, if TikTok goes away, we'll be fine. But I think TikTok is just...

I mean, it's changing lives. I mean, will everyone just go and start doing... Will we just be scrolling reels at night?

I just think TikTok is fun because people It's so expressive and it's just like, you don't want everything to be owned by the same meta.

Because what I like on TikTok is not what I like anywhere else in the world. Exactly. I don't get influenced on TikTok. I've never seen an app.

I mean, every conspiracy theory, but continue.

That's different. That's knowledge. I don't see girls' outfits on TikTok, I feel like, and then go buy their shit. I reserve that, I feel like, for Instagram.

On TikTok, I'll see a girl that I like her fits, and then I'll click to her Instagram and then try to find links.

Right. But TikTok, I like my shit to be funny, not esthetic. Don't you feel like a totally different person? I'm a different person.

Well, it took you a while to get there, and I kept being like, Shit, post, shit, post, just post. Your TikToks have been so good. Thank you. You're one with Craig in the hot tub. Who thought of it? Tell me. Just give me the...

I have another sound that I really want to do with Craig.

He's going to be so happy.

No, he's so excited. He was trying to do it last night, and I was like, I'm really fucking anxious right now. I can't just film a TikTok. You're like, I'm crying. He's like, But your lips look so big.

I'm like, I know. Thanks. I have one thing to piss you off. What? This is just about men. Okay. Some modern studies, and I don't know what they are, have found that women tell fewer jokes than men, especially in mixed gender groups. They're basically saying when you're hanging out with other men-Not us. The true. But most girls will be like, I'm not going to make jokes around them. But girls are making jokes with their own friends because they don't feel comfortable making jokes with other men.

It's so funny. I feel like I haven't met a funny man in two years. No, genuinely, when's the last time you met someone for the first time and it was a man and you were like, That guy was really fucking funny. Except you go to comedy clubs a lot. I'm talking the average human.

I don't meet people. We avoid them. But also humor comes in all shapes and sizes. But it was interesting how there's still that idea of women aren't funny. This is interesting because it's like, oh, when men are hanging out with girls... Because I've been in situations where you're the only girl when I'm younger and it's a bunch of dudes and you speak, no one listens to you. You're obviously like, I'm not... Making a joke means you're commanding the room and it's confidence. If you're considered the beta of the group, you're not saying something funny. If men are always treating women as not equals, the woman's not going to make jokes. Or they'll do a joke and it'll bomb. So then men will be like, Oh, what were you doing? She's not funny. When, meanwhile, she's going back to her friends and they're dying laughing.

I genuinely have two funny guy friends that I can think off the top of my head. And one of them I don't even talk to. Just kidding. But I did get so many- And one of them I have to block. And one of them wants me dead. It's just like a funny Sunday. No one wants you dead. Like, who? There's definitely multiple people that want me dead. But it's just funny to think about.

I still have to watch the Brandy Melville.

Brandy Melville.

Melville.

Oh, but it's called Okay, sorry.

I feel like you didn't give it a glowing review.

I can't explain documentaries like you do. You do it in such a nuanced way. You do it in such a good way. It was okay. It wasn't anything like that. Here's the thing. There wasn't anything that shocking that you didn't already know when you turned it on. It's not like they dropped some bomb where the owner murdered 27 people. No, it wasn't like that. It was just like, Yeah, they sucked. Here's the reasons why.

It's like, Yeah, we could see that. I say watching documentaries is like watching porn where when you first start, you're like, This is interesting. Then you're like, Unless 40 people get murdered, I don't want to see it.

I'm like, I don't give a shit.

Unless there's stepmoms that go around.

I'm like, Oh, they stole everyone else's clothes? Cool. I don't give a fuck. Did someone die? Give me the real shit. Yeah. I'm like, Are we arresting him? What are we doing with him? I don't care.

I was saying that once he got embarrassed because he saw his something popped up on his computer where people saw he had porno. But that was not It's the most embarrassing part. It was that he was searching Man, Kissing, Woman. That was so me-coated. That's so sweet.

Me and Craig are not searching that. Definitely not searching something that sweet.

Thank you so much for gig me with us. We are going on tour. Wednesday, the presale is on, so make sure you're on your shit. We'll give the code, all that stuff.

If you're struggling with anxiety, it's fine. Just freaking cry it out.

Crying is good. Yeah, just chill out. Also, speaking of crying, I'm going to Jacksonville. There's some tickets available. Thank you.

See you.