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Welcome to Inside the Green Room with Peevey three each week, Pete Vargas, a third. Yes, that's me. Lets you inside his virtual green room to hang out and learn from the meeting planners who control the most prestigious stages in the world and from the speakers who use those stages to increase their income and impact. Now let's dive into the griever. Todd welcomed the rise up world. Man, I appreciate you being here today, man, and so you're one of those guys that, you know, every time you speak, I listen.

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There's always something so powerful and profound, whether we're sitting at a mastermind table together. Sure. We're having a conversation about life or we're in your office together or whatever it is talk.

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I mean, I don't I don't know why this comes up for me. Like, what do we as entrepreneurs and parents and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles, like, what do we how do we show up powerfully? That's what's coming up for me, man.

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I think, you know, we we all graduate through different levels of, you know, like there's the the four levels of learning. We're like we're unconsciously incompetent. We don't even know that. We don't know something that's ignorance. So that's the first thing to recognize is that the way that we're showing up in the world oftentimes is we're fighting against our own ignorance about things. And I think when you're talking about something like, you know, the racial inequalities that are happening now is before you go in and start giving your opinion on something, just know that you're also showing up with a whole lot of ignorance.

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And so for for a lot of us, we need to be showing up and trying to seek even more and more understanding, because the more and more that we understand other people and truly the weight of the issue that they have to experience every day, we can build up empathy.

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And then after we build up empathy, we can rise to an even higher level, which is compassion. And and I want to make the distinctions between those two things. I've seen the Dalai Lama speak three different times in New York City where where I live. And he was talking about this great distinction between empathy and compassion and empathy is when you actually bring your emotional resonance down to the same level as someone else. Now, if you think about someone who feels maybe disenfranchised or, you know, someone is going through a depression or someone who's struggling with something right now, when you bring your energy down there, it's really hard for someone to or it's really hard for you to lead someone out of the out of that situation.

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Right. Because your energy is at the same level. But what the Dalai Lama had said was when you hold compassion, you actually keep your energetic level at this really high, pure state up here. And when someone's going through a hard time, being able to anchor yourself to someone who's got this really highly resonant emotion that's more positive, more refined, more loving or grateful, whatever it is you give them, even if it's just five seconds in your day showing kindness to someone else, that's enough to sustain and satiate someone's appetites, their emotional appetite for a long time.

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I mean, we probably all had that situation where we can tell friends about a situation where someone came along and carried, you know, your grandma telling you about someone carrying her grocery bags to her car. Right. Like, that's that's incredible. So I just say, like, you know, just know that we're all operating at a level of ignorance. All of us are, no matter how much that we pursue. I said at the very beginning before we kind of went Facebook Live is just recognized, all of you, that you're weird, you're weird to be here, like you're actively trying to rise up.

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That's not what a lot of people say. Attitude is every single day is how can I break out of whatever unseen chains that I have right now that are stopping me from, you know, achieving the things that I want. Like, that's that's an incredible part of your own psychology and your own identity that you need to recognize in yourself. So being weird is really powerful. So, you know, I just sort of were unconsciously incompetent. Then we go to we become now that we're aware, we become consciously incompetent.

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And I think this is the thing that some people are struggling with right now, even with the words that are put out there where you say things like white privilege that's put out there, you know, someone who is white might hear that and go, what do you mean privilege? Like, how do you even know the life that I've had? And they become defensive. And that's not the purpose of that that statement of white privilege. It's recognizing that in the culture that we live in, there is a benefit to being and having this skin color.

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Now, I don't need to take it on as being guilty, but what I do need to take it on, as I do have a responsibility to other people who might be disenfranchised simply because the color of their skin. So what can I do to reach out and make sure that those inequalities aren't affected in the small little pocket of my world? And if everyone started, you know, really infiltrating and taking care of the smaller pockets of their own world, then they would have a really market difference in the entire world.

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And so I'm getting infiltrated right now by little ones. This is the this is the beauty of working at home. Right. So I love it, dude.

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I love it, dude. That's it. Just is where reality today is.

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So. Yeah, exactly. It is where we're at today. So so just recognizing that that's that conscious level of awareness or of we're consciously incompetent and then we're we become consciously competent about something like now we're doing something about it. We're actually increasing our our effectiveness and then we become unconsciously competent. We don't even need to think about the fact that we're doing something great out there. We're just it is just a part of our own identity, it's just the way that we're operating.

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And so I wasn't planning on doing this, but oh good, dude, it's so good.

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Like, I forgot my notepad, but I got it right here, dude. It is so good. So keep the jacket on it.

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Yeah. So I just want to share a quick little model for everybody that to give everyone a frame, a framework to be thinking through.

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Because, you know, when I look at like say something like racism, the easiest thing is to go and attack a person, to attack people as opposed of looking as opposed to looking at it as a system that's creating something. Right. Like when you are truly trying to pull out the roots of something, let's look at the system of it. And so if I just flip over and hopefully I can share my screen here, guys, make sure he can share.

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I can. I'm good. So just let me know in the chat gang if you guys can all see and and all that. So this is an amazing framework that was developed by two gentlemen in the U.S. military back in about 1986, 88, and it's called vodka and vodka stands for volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous. And the reason that they developed that was because, you know, there's the great quote from Mike Tyson when he said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth and and so on the battlefield.

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Once you actually go, you can have all your plans about what you're going to do in the battlefield. But when the actual battle starts, that's when things start to really rise up. And this is where leaders start to develop right now is in, you know, times like these times, like, you know, when the coronaviruses like you stepped up, like that's that is a classic leader. This is what's happening. How can I serve people?

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I'm going to show you a second. A second why this rise up challenge is actually resonating with people on the next slide. So volatile, uncertain, chaotic and ambiguous. So what I want to show you is right here along this line ups. What do you say to us today? I'm going to I'm going to read it out right now, OK?

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So right here it says, How much do you know about the situation? All right. So we have over here in this quadrant is volatile. And that's we actually know quite a bit about the situation. And in up here, going along this axis, this is how well can you predict the outcome of your actions? And if you think you can predict the outcome of your actions and you know that the you know quite a bit about the situation, what you know is it's actually very volatile, like this situation right now in our in America.

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It's a volatile situation right now. OK, and then we go down here and this is where we have uncertainty. There's a lot of uncertainty that's happening right now. We actually know quite a bit about the situation, but I actually don't know how much I can actually, you know, do anything about with my actions. Like, I don't know if my actions are going to actually change anything. And this is where, you know, some people feel like they might be losing hope.

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And I think that's the experience of a lot of I mean, just again, not not not to be bringing race into this, but just think about the experience of someone who is an African-American. And I work a lot with pro athletes. I have these conversations with them all of the time. Just how, you know, what does walking through a day in their life look like different than mine? Right, and it's just because I want to make sure that I do not stay stuck in ignorance, this is for my own personal element of myself, so very uncertain.

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The problem here is because of so much uncertainty, maybe so much effort has been put into situations for people to improve themselves. You know, we don't want people to get caught in hopelessness because when someone loses hope, that's when people will do drastic things. OK, and that's why it's important for all leaders, any color to be stepping up and doing something to help out. And then at the very top over here, we have it's complex. So we've got complex in the upper left.

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And that's where you actually do know that you can take some some actions. You actually know you can kind of predict what the outcomes of those actions will be, but you really don't know very much about the situation. So you're going to be ignorant in some ways. And at the very bottom here, we got ambiguous. There we go. Now it's writing or ambiguity. And this is where you don't know much about the situation and you don't know much about how your actions are going to change anything.

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So, I mean, so this Vuko world, this is very much our world. And not only are we dealing with the coronavirus pandemic and what that's going to look like, but we're also dealing with, you know, deep, you know, systemic racial inequalities right now. Two things on top of many other things that are going on, so I just take a look at as a system of thinking this is helpful and again, like I do, I do, you know, mental toughness, performance training and one of the core pillars of helping people lead a peak performing life or develop stronger mental toughness, because mental toughness in its definition that I share people with people all the time is mental.

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Toughness is your ability to be flexible and adaptable, despite what you're getting at circumstances. If you're someone who's only firm fix, I'm only going to solve this problem this way. You're going to break.

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It's like, you know, because the winds of change blow on all of us. And I think right now, the more people that we have operating with, the more flexible and adaptable mindset that the world needs to change. And it's not going to cost me as a human being, anything to allow other people to have similar opportunities as I do. That doesn't hurt me in any way. It only makes it better for everyone else and for myself as well, and for my three little kids and for my small community and on and on and on and on.

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So just to give you another frame, what I want to show you, like why the rise up challenge is resonating so much with everyone here, is there's there's something that I have developed with people as an antidote to Bukha, because, again, like when we work with a pro athlete or me working with a CEO and a leader like yourself or whatever, any time you're I mean, you're I mean, I don't know how much change you've seen in the last year, how much volatility you've had in your business in the last, you know, 60 days.

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But as someone who took massive action, probably a lot in the last little while.

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So the antidote to vodka and some of you were leading communities, some of you want to be leading communities right now. This is what people are seeking right now. One of them is a. Clarity, the next thing that people want is they want. Assurance, assurances, people, that's what communities for people are flocking to communities is, they're looking for reassurance because we can all feel like our world is being flipped upside down right now. And then you get inside of a community of peers.

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You're like, oh, OK, change is happening for everyone else, too. It's not just me. So it reassures people. That's the feeling that people that's why people have flocked towards communities.

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Is this so if you're someone who can provide clarity for other people, lift the fog a little bit so they can see maybe a path forward. That's such a valuable gift you've given people. If you can assure people that they have got the abilities right now to make a change happen, because some people are like, well, how do I make that thing happen? That's a year from now that I want to know what can you do to make a change right now?

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Because that's all you need. You need the skill to make a change. And right now, not in three months, because they'll all stack together and then all of a sudden you'll have the skills to tackle even bigger problems. The next thing is they need leadership, someone to take a stand, someone to clarify things, someone to just even give people the the opportunity to to share their, you know, discomforts or their their concerns that they have just that alone, that leadership is so valuable.

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And I mean, I don't know. You know, you have one big because of the way that you showed up in the last two months. Other people haven't. I've seen so many people that have showed up with phenomenal content, whether it's on LinkedIn or other communities and and doing lives and stuff like that, that didn't have big audiences. But they showed up with phenomenal content to help lead people. And and they're winning now. And then finally, this is a big one.

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And this is where I think a lot of people miss out, is they need people are seeking movement. People need to feel like they are taking action. You know, you and I, we have a mutual friend who you introduced me to challenge. My my my video is buffering a little bit. How it's overloading my system is, you know, he just came through this movement makers challenge. And the beautiful thing about the framework that he just unpacked was it gives people little wins.

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Those little wins stack up. And, you know, as someone who works with people on peak performance and mental toughness and all that kind of good stuff is movement or momentum breeds confidence.

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The athlete that starts to get some momentum in the game builds up confidence. And when you've got an athlete that has confidence against a competitor, that might be better than them. It creates certainty, so momentum creates confidence, which then delivers certainty, and when you have someone who's certain that they can make the change happen, they can defeat something that's something that is resonant. It's a part of their DNA now. It's a knowing. And I think with all the types of stuff that you and I try to do with people as I want to make it so that people feel really certain that they have the capacity to lead the life that they envision for themselves and the way that we do that.

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And I back it all the way from the beginning is how can I get you some little momentum, you know, steps, some little actions that people give. So I think for all of you, when you're showing up for other people, giving clarity to other people, that can be just enough for some people that that gives just lifts the fog, reassuring them or assuring them that they have the abilities to take the action. And then just by you doing those things, you're showing up as the leader.

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Now you're showing leadership. But then always think of really going down to the field of play. What are some actions that I can give people right now? Some small, little, tiny steps that they can take right now to to make all that happen. But can I just show one more thing to people? Yeah, please, man. Please. OK, so just one thing. I want people to think about something I share people all the time.

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You cannot solve a problem you're not willing to have or accept. Wow. When I think of America and I'm a Canadian and on the outside that's lived inside the country now. And I think the great challenge that I have about America is there is a potential for phenomenal greatness here. But I really feel like America is massively under indexing. And that's because for some reason. America as a system is unwilling to accept a problem that is such a phenomenal power when you are willing to have the problem now, it opens up the brain space for you to think about solutions.

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When you are resisting against a problem, you're not giving your brain the ability to come up with solutions because you're in a denial phase. Right. And so think about yourselves. Like, what problems are you resisting against that you're not willing to have or accept? Give me any problem. I am willing to have it and accept it because I want to be the most valuable dad I can be to my three little kids. And so the more problems I'm willing to have and accept.

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The better human being I'm going to be and I have this, I won the lottery, I won the lottery with my parents, I've got two phenomenal parents. Not everyone got that gift I did. And I am deeply resonantly connected to my last name, Herrman, because my parents gave me that gift of a great last name. That means something valuable in the area that I'm from, a small farm or a big farm and ranch in southern Alberta, Canada.

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And so I want to make sure that I can take that name. And, you know, whether it's one interaction people have had with me here is they go, oh, you know, that's what Herman guy.

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You know, he gave me an insight, you know, like, that's me leaving my mark. Well, there someone gave me money or not. It doesn't matter to me. That's an impression that made my last name more valuable to other people and and that's important to me because my parents gave me that gift. So think about this. Are you willing to have or accept the problems that you that you are faced with right now? And finally, to give people something now, just to follow my own framework, what is something I can give you right now as an actionable tool to help you lead a better life?

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So this is something I call the CDW framework. Now, I have this frame in my own head that I don't believe in problems I believe in. I have decisions that I haven't been that haven't I haven't made yet because that's what a problem is. A problem only exists over a period of time because a decision hasn't been made on it yet. So to get clarity on this, this is something called a Cartesian square developed back in the hundreds and.

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What you're going to do is you're going to write this out in a four box model, will and won't. Do and don't. So we all fall into patterns of always thinking in a certain way, and what I want you to do is I want you to think about a situation or a problem that you need to that you're faced with right now. And you're going to say, what should I do about. This problem of I saw a lady in the chat that says that she's not showing up consistently on her Facebook group or in her Facebook page.

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OK, so that's the problem. You're not showing up consistently. Well, now we're going to put into this Cartesian square. Some of your solutions are ideas. And so we're going to take an idea. We're going to put it in now. The quality of your life is going to be dependent upon the quality of the ideas that you put inside of our decision frameworks.

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So what will happen won't happen if you do show up more consistently. Does it make sense, Phil or Pete? Yeah, completely, I'll be Phil then what will happen if you don't show up consistently? And then what won't happen if you don't show up consistently? Let's even apply this to the world that we're living in right now.

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What will happen if I do show up daily as an antiracist? Hmm? What won't happen if I do show up as an antiracist? Here's what won't happen. Here's what won't happen. If you do that, better quality people won't be showing up in your life.

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If you if you do that, if you show that you're going to have more, what will happen? You're going to have better quality people show up in your life, people who think better people over fine thinking, people who are more emotionally stable. And then what will happen if I don't show up as an anti-racist? Here's what will happen. Perpetual systemic racism will continue to operate. So then what happens out of this is then what's the decision? What is the decision that you're going to make?

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Because I want to help people make decisions and so throw in as many ideas as you possibly can into this Cartesian in square. And just it gives you a full breadth view of all the things that will and won't happen based on your actions. And then here's the key thing, though. This is how you develop phenomenal levels of awareness and leadership. I want you to answer the question, why did you make that decision and capture it in a journal in an Evernote?

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I don't care what it is. State that state the problem. What was your decision? Why did you make that decision? And then when you look back on yourself a year, three years, five years from now, you're going to have a phenomenal log of your development and your character development over the period of time. And you're going to be able to look back and go, wow, look at that decision I made. And you know what?

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I would not make that same decision. Now, why? Because I've had this experience. I've had this thing in this thing happened. So take this framework, run with it, use this with yourself. Use this if you're coaching others, even with your own kids, you know, it's just a phenomenal way for us to think on paper so that we get the full breadth, scope, view of all the opportunities that are there, so that we can develop and truly try to have the life that we say that we want, which is the best life that we possibly can do it.

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I love that, guys. This homework assignment this week is going to be really important around a decision. What should I do about Underly now? It can be what we're tackling today, which I wouldn't I would gladly love to see some of the decisions that we can make to be a part of the change, or it could be about some other problem that you're facing in your life. But if you will just use this model and you will make the decision and put the why behind it.

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And Todd, this has been huge. And I'll tell you, it was huge for me and gave me goosebumps and I still have it.

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You cannot solve a problem you're not willing to have or the even more powerful word for that, because I don't have the same problem my nephew Ruban has.

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I don't I don't have the same problem that T.D. Jakes talked about, a story of his son getting in a car wreck and T.D. Jakes saying, stay on the phone with me until the cops come because he was afraid for his son's life.

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I don't have that with my son, but I accept the fact that that is a real problem. Yeah. And I can be a part of the change of that word, except, dude, that's where great leaders right now listen. Hey, listen, right now, stop talking. Stop saying the word. But. Stop saying all of the catchy phrases about all of other issues. And listen. Yeah, and have your ears open your eyes to see that scriptural brow like ears open and eyes to see what's going on, and as soon as you accept it, now you're and it's not just with this.

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It's with any problem in your life. Todd, as soon as you don't have to have a problem, you can accept the problem. But whether you do both of those. Either one of those, your mind now opens up for solutions. That's how the rise up world was. Birth taught is exactly that, that that that quote is so freakin powerful, dude.

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So, dude, I'm so grateful to have you today. Man, this has been a treat. Todd, thank you so much for being with us today, man.

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Thank you, man. Happy to be here. So much. Big love, brother.

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