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I was just saying, thought she was on your Bill Belichick. She came in like Bill Belichick. She came in like Bill Belichick, man.

Man, his news and his notes had me a little... Feeling crazy today.

How are you doing, man? You all right?

Flustered. Yeah, better now.

A little flustered, man.

Okay.

A lot going on. There is a lot going on, so let's start. Okay. Anthony Edwards offered a public apology after an Only Fans model dropped text messages of him encouraging her to get an abortion after she found out she was pregnant. Anthony is already expecting a child with his current girlfriend. First, thoughts on her releasing the messages.

There's a couple of things. It depends on the context. What happens is usually before a female releases text messages publicly, they try to have a conversation and the conversation with the person that's their supposed to be baby father doesn't go right. It's usually a little bit of threats involved. If you don't do this or don't do that, we're going to do this. To me, that's how the text messages usually goes. I wouldn't say threats, just a negotiation. I use not to be so close to home or, not to, pardon me, that's the wrong word to use, not close to home, but not to be mentioning anybody's former employees up here or anything like that, or partners. But with Puff and Cassie, to me, my point of view on that situation is that didn't get public until the negotiation behind closed doors didn't go right. Then it becomes, yeah, I want 30 million, I want 10 million or whatever the number may be. I think these conversations are going privately. When the female doesn't get the way what she wants, or she feels she's being treated unfairly, then she's like, I'm going to take this public because you're not treating me fair.

Looking at the text message here, I see it's a video. I'm just looking at the first few text messages. It says, Obviously, the female saying, Obviously, you've been through this before, but just by your action. He said, I'll send you money. Anthony Edwards says, I'll send you money to help you out. She says, I didn't act for it, but okay. Then blah, blah, blah. He says, I don't want kids. Let's handle this like grown-ups. I'm pretty sure it goes on and on and on. Hey, man, it sounds like she tried to negotiate with you. She obviously wants your baby. Just signed $235 million. I hear it was 100,000 offered. That math to her probably ain't math it. Now she puts her business out there, and that's how it goes. What do you feel about it, Macy?

It's a lot. This is probably one of those situations that I'm normally comical, but I can be comical on this one because when I think about it, if a young lady reach out to you and say that she has a baby and you know it's your baby, or let's say, allegedly, you know it's your baby, to say you do have the right to say that you don't want kids. But it's so many things that's layered in this conversation. I don't know if we even have time to deal with it all. For one, he states that according to what I gathered that he apologized because he said it went against his beliefs, right?

I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, the apology after he was saying basically like, a woman should get the choice to choose what she wants because it's her... Like, he was basically apologizing because he felt like he handled it insensitively.

Okay. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but wherever he stands, he got to stand consistently there. If he's going to go with his beliefs, then his beliefs wouldn't have had them with her. There's so many ways you could take this. But let me get to the matter at hand. The matter at hand... I'm trying to tell you that the girl is pregnant. The girl is pregnant. She shows you a baby or the evidence that there is a baby. It is very insensitive to just try to get rid of the baby and put money on it. It says a lot about where we are as a society, not just what Anthony Edwards, just period. That people think money can wash away the wrong that they do. I don't claim to be a person that has always done things 100 % the right way, but right is right and wrong is wrong.

Well, just to flip you on the flip side, when you're saying money could wash away certain things and certain problems, sometimes, and I'm not saying this is the situation, I'm being general, sometimes that's what the female is out to get anyway. It isn't even genuine about them wanting to have the baby. It's about the baby. They see who they're having the baby with, and they're saying, Okay, this is a ploy to get money. Like I said, I don't know this situation. I'm not saying this is the Anthony Edwards and the female that he's dealing with right now in this situation. This is their situation. But this is why Dion Sanders wanted us to come talk at his school, because it is females out there like that.

I'm glad you shared that, because that's why it seemed like I was stumbling with the conversation, because that is the other side of it. But as the person who's the guy making 200 million, if you know that this young lady is only sleeping with you just for money, then that make you have to make a better decision because why would you go into a setup and then get upset that you're being set up? You went in a setup knowing it was a setup, and now you're upset that there is a setup. I'm saying this speaks to how dark the world is right now that this is where we're at, that people were actually, even like Cam was saying, if that is the case, not that this lady is doing that, that we're at a place where people have a baby and just want money. That's crazy.

But the thing about it is, Mace, when you're saying you know you're being set up, obviously he doesn't know he's being set up. I mean, who walks into a setup? Let's say he's just stupid. I don't care if it's a robbery or anything else. But I think what happens is, probably a lot of these athletes, and like we said, I'm speaking roundabout, not about this situation. A lot of times these athletes have been popping since they've been seven, eight, nine, 10 years old and been that guy since high school because they're going to the pros. A lot of times, and I have no disrespect to you athletes, none whatsoever, you're green. Yeah. You're thinking that females be liking you for you and not saying that some of them don't, but they see the potential of having a better life. You sit there and be like, don't walk into the setup. This mad nigger has got set up. We just talked about Dwight Howard, born in a cheerleader, his first week of getting to the Orlando Magic. Then she ended up being a stripper, dancing all over the place, everything else, but he had a baby with her.

Then we could go, like I said, the list goes on of a bunch of them.

Was that a set-up?

To me, it was. You're never going to say it's a... No female is going to be like, You've been set up, unless you catch up. Nobody's going to admit it's a set-up. No one will be like, You know I set you up, nigger. It's like nobody's ever going to say it's a setup. But I'm pretty sure that if you're in position to be around somebody with hundreds of millions or a position to have a baby with somebody who doesn't have any money, you know who you're around. Listen, this is not to every female, because some of you females are genuine. This female by text messages, it seems like she's genuine because he offered money, and she said, I didn't ask you for any money. Just from that alone, I see that it's not about the money with her. But at the same time, you did put the messages out publicly for people to know. That means it wasn't being handled behind closed doors. I have mixed feelings about this particular situation because everything doesn't have to be internet. Everything doesn't have to be social media. Everything doesn't have to be for everybody to see. Even if he isn't doing what you want, this is why you get a lawyer, or this is why you get consultation to figure out how to go about it.

But once you make it public, everybody's in your business. Now it is what it is with our lead-off conversation on a Tuesday morning talking about this conversation because you made it public. I said this a while ago. It's a lot of shit, and I'm not comparing every female is different. It's a lot of things that I did 100% wrong when it came to my child's mother. My child's mother, you don't know who she is unless I want you to know who she is. She didn't say I cheated on her publicly. I admitted that I cheated on her publicly. She didn't say, Cam isn't doing this because I did everything for my son. But it's a bunch of shit when females are mad that they can put out publicly. But I'm just giving the other side of the coin because Mason's or Heson are hesitant, I do tell sports. But at the end of the day, I'm just giving both scenarios.

Yeah. I appreciate you for what you're sharing, and I know this is a sensitive topic. Even what you just shared, Kim, shows that you have major growth and major maturity in that area. I just think that we're at a time where people got to grow up, you know what I'm saying? Especially as men, because they're dealing with life, change and money, but they're still thinking like kids. I say that from a place of being a guy who made childish mistakes, being a guy that hasn't done everything right, but somebody got to say this for real. Niggas ain't thinking. If you got 200 million, you got to be looking for the setup. Especially if you're having a baby already with somebody else, you got to understand that I'm a different guy. I got to move different. I can't move like I'm nobody if I'm somebody. That's more so what I'm speaking of. Because once you get the girl pregnant, everything is in her court. It's no longer in your court. You're on defense.

Well, Mason, and I put this in translation.

For real.

I'm trying to- Your pull-out game is weak. That's what that nigga Mason said in a nice context. Stop going raw or get your pull-out game together. It's only a few families that have good luck with a weak pull-out game. Of course, the Wayne's brothers, the Yanes family, your pull-out game is weak, then that's on you to be in this predicament or strap up. One or the other, you got to realize who you are when you're walking around with that type of contract. Mason is not going to say it.

I'll say it. Oh, no, I was going to say it. I mean, he's in between pause. It's like, if you're going to be a savage, be a savage. Or if you're going to be a good guy, be a good guy like me. I'm working on myself. I want to be good. I want to be better. I try to put myself around better things, you know what I'm saying? I don't always do the right thing, but I'm definitely working in that direction. It's just certain things you can't put yourself in that position.

Do a slim thug day. I mean, it's early, and I know you're having a kid with your girlfriend, but get a vasectomy.

Some thug out of vasectomy?

He announced that, Pause. I don't know his personal business. He put it, the reason I noticed he put it on Instagram. And he like you all.

I was trying to be serious.

I'm just.

Saying, I'm not touching.

He admitted that. He's like, You all won't catch me no more. See, I like pause, not to.

Be- Let's be responsible. That's what I'm talking about. He knows- He knows he's not going to pull out. He just clipped himself. Yeah, exactly.

He took himself out the game. I know you're young and may want to have more kids, but at the end of the day, if you know your pull-out game is weak, pause.

It's several options. Yeah, and that's going to cost you a lot. I don't think guys really think. It's going to cost you a lot. If you just sign for 200 million, my goodness.

Yeah. Not only that, on his Instagram, Anthony Edwards, he's actually... Maybe we'll play the clip if we could, nick, when we get over this. But what he did is that when he signed his extension for it, for 260 million, he's in his bed with his girlfriend, smiling, saying, I ain't going to let the chick take none of this money.

All you females who think you all can come up off a nigger from.

Signing the contract, she's the only one. No, her. Boy, don't lie.

She's the only one that's coming up.

Look, she's new to the table. So I'm a little green.

For her.

Everybody else is the light. It's the same color as my damn jacket.

Hey, you tell my... You feel me? Then they as well. Yeah.

Because- That's what I'm talking about. Because is robbery, and I know ladies appreciate this. It's robbery for the one who's right. You know what I'm saying? That she got to share that now with somebody else that wasn't down for the cause.

You won't use the word robbery. I'm just going to stop going raw, nigger. Like, yo, bro, you got a lot of money. When you're in that position, then he said he don't want no kids and all that. Look, man, like you said, Major, we'd probably be here for about an hour going through this. I'm going to finish and say this. Just all the text messages I've seen, she said it ain't about money. But then at the same time, she puts the text messages publicly. I don't know. That's like C-Saw shit. Then Anthony Edwards said he doesn't want to have a baby, but he's about to have... He doesn't want to have kids, but he's about to have a kid, about to have two kids. Lastly, I'll say this. The Minnesota Timberwolves completely said, Look, we don't approve any of this, and we have nothing to do with this. It'll be monitored da da da da. But they basically did their own disclaimer saying this is so and so matter. I just had it up. I won't read it verbatim. But basically, in a nutshell pause, they just said, we don't support this decision, yada, yada, yada.

Anthony, I was our player, we'll monetize it close, and that's that. But as an organization, this is back to what we were talking about maybe last week or the week before. Not this particular situation, where we sit there and say, A lot of people may not be the best people in the world to make the right decisions or so on and so forth, but they're just good basketball players. We're talking about media, when people were talking about the media. He may not the best person in the world, but is he a good basketball player? Yeah. But what happens is when it affects a franchise's bottom line, then they have to make decisions. So now just use an example of, Oh, you all are supporting babies out of Wedlock, this, that, and that, and depending on what city is in, you're going to have people who don't with that belief they're, Oh, we can't give you all marketing dollars anymore. We can't invest into your franchise. I think the Minnesota Timberwolves, as long as it doesn't mess up their bottom line, that's the statement they had to say. But as long as they don't miss out on no money, I don't think they ever have a problem with it.

Any franchise. It's people who got who brought murderers back on. I'm not saying murderers, but hit and run drivers, people who died in certain situations, and they've been back on the field the next year.

I have a lot of thoughts, but.

I'm just- Give us your thoughts.

I'm just trying to- I'm loaded with pause, a lot of thoughts as well.

I would like to hear from a female.

Point of view, though. I just have a lot of views because I just feel like everybody needs to do better with the people they decide to mess with. In her shoes, you're saying you thought it was going to be more than that or whatever the case may be, but at the same time, he had a public girlfriend, and he's expecting a baby with her. Then on his part, it's like clearly you didn't really know her that well to not know how her reaction would have been. Then my last point, I'm just going to keep it short and sweet, I just feel like initially the conversation did not need to be had on text. That should have been something that should have been a phone call immediately because you're putting yourself in a position to get set up when you're expressing your feelings and emotions. Knowing that you're a public figure. Obviously, people are going to talk about what you do. Any type of business that you put out there, especially when it's written, you're setting yourself up for it to be posted. Not saying that he knew that she was going to do that, or that's what she expected to do.

I just feel like you're putting yourself in a deeper hole. Now we're at a point where he's like, Okay, I'm going to send you 100,000 to get it done. The end of the day, this decision is still up to her whether she wants to do it or not. That is a woman's choice.

To get what done?

He told her to get an abortion, so he sent her $100,000, which it doesn't cost that much, but I guess to just deal with everything else just to pay her off, which is still a messed up situation because it's like, You can't just pay me off to do something. That's going to be her choice. It's like, I don't wish for anybody to be in this situation because it's just sad, but they're both going to have to deal with the consequences because now her name, at least in my opinion, is forever going to be tied to this situation. If she does decide to continue with the pregnancy, that's going to be his child forever. That's just how it goes. But I feel like these situations happen time and time again, and there's so many warnings like, Hey, be careful who you decide to mess with just because you don't know the way that it's going to go. But people still... I mean, obviously, they're not thinking with their head. They just think with other parts. So yeah, it's a very.

Interesting- Some of them are thinking with their head. They know what they're doing. I'm not saying this particular situation, but some of them myself. I know it's a sensitive time and all that, but let's stop acting like some people don't get lied for this. Like I said-.

They don't get lied for this.

When I say, Lied up by females, some people- Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah. No, I'm not disagreeing with you. I was saying we start talking about something else. But this is why Dion Sanders wanted us to come talking to school to his football players because he doesn't want to make similar mistakes. When you're in the NFL, not necessarily the NBA, before you get to the NFL, it is a six-day class on how to avoid certain females. Seriously, so you don't mess up your money. They give a whole course on this for a week on how to throw your condos away, time-out, flush this down. There is a six-day course in the NFL for people to be aware of certain situations like this. You don't bump into this. Maybe the NBA needs to get the same policy that the NFL has with the conduct of not getting lined up. Because the NFL, they don't call it getting lined up, but they have a whole course, a five, six-day course of not being lined. That goes back to not to being disrespectful, to being a little bit green. Like me and Mace and I could say Chicago, I could say New York, I could say here and say LA to a certain extent, Detroit.

When you say you're from the city is one thing, but being inner city is a whole other thing. When you're a celebrity in Iowa, and there's no disrespect to any town or talent, any town that's not inner city. You grow up wild fast when you live in the inner city. It's moving. When they can say you're a New York minute, that shit is a real thing. Shit is moving 100 miles per minute, realistically. So when you're living in a rural area or the suburbs and you grew up being a talent, everybody from the town comes to see you, you don't necessarily know what these inner... They don't have to be in the city, what these females are up to, and I'm pretty sure I could speak for Mace on this, but it's going to be hard to get over on nigger like us. It's not going to be that simple. You could be genuine. I tell a lot of people this all the time. When I meet you, you're down 30, you may have done nothing wrong to me. You have to work your way to zero for me to even put you above zero.

You're negative 30 when I meet you. I don't trust you. I don't believe you. I don't think what you're saying is true, and it may all be true. But you have to work the game, I trust from day on 30 to get to zero to get back up to maybe 100 one day. Ifthey if it ever reaches that point. Good point.

Okay, so in wake of the Anthony Edwards news, I think you can see a lot of young athletes are dealing with drama off the court, right? Do you guys feel like NBA stars have enough guidance? Not even just NBA, NFL have enough guidance? And what advice would you offer these athletes?

I wanted to listen because I definitely wanted to hear what Killer had to say, and I think that's what makes us extraordinary together because he speaks from one end of the spectrum, I speak from the other, and we both have similarities and history that makes a lot of this go together. However, I really believe that the item that's missing, as much as people joke about it as God, that's what they're missing. It's like they're trying to get every other piece. But when you slice life into eight slices, you got you got finances, you got family, you got health, you got all these things. But God is one of those pieces, or spiritual is a part of one of those pieces. When you take that out, you really don't end up with the life you're supposed to have. No matter how cool you think you are, how tough you think you are, even gangsters pray, you know what I'm saying? I think what we're looking at is one of the first generations that don't have that piece that seems so small. But pause is just like if you got a bike with no brakes or you're playing football with no helmet, you're missing that one piece that is not there.

In all of these conversations we're having, that's going to be the piece that's missing all the way through. It's crazy. But that's why when I walked in here, I just felt like so, it's crazy because I was just thinking like, it's crazy that that's not acknowledged. But we sit there and say, He's about to lose 45 million because he ain't have that piece. It's crazy.

Absolutely. I definitely believe in God and I definitely pray all the time. Maybe not to the level of the Masons, but I absolutely agree with that. I'm very superstitious as well.

I'm super, superstitious. Like they said, this gut instinct. But that's what I'm talking about. Our generation had that. That's what I'm trying to say. It's not that anybody got to be over spiritual. I'm saying this is that generation that doesn't have even that, like what Killers said, I believe in God. We're looking at the generation that don't have that. That's very true.

See, the thing, and not to cut you off, but see, the thing is this. It's like this for me, my opinion. It's like these kids have mothers and fathers who are well off and everybody's not coming from the struggle. I'm so big on praying because I didn't think I was going to live to be 16 years old. I remember I was 15 years old, and I'm like, Damn, once you're all around here, 40 wolves of the block.

Yeah, you made it to 18. You did it.

Yeah, in the 90s, I'm like, Damn, I'm probably going to die. This is real. No kidding. I'm like, I ain't going to make it to 16. You think it's killing these niggas every day. I got a bad attitude. I'm not having it. I'm going to end up getting killed. I always prayed. But at the same time, these kids is not going with through what niggas had to go through. When we grew up, they got parents who's maybe not be the richest, but they're situated. They are good jobs. They're not here to live and check to check like certain people. I'm not saying that all families are like that, but we just were talking about Marvin Harrison Jr. He could go back to school when Maurice Cloret was up here because he's not struggling for a dollar. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I had to go after one year.

Yeah. At the end of the day, my thing is this. There's no guidance, but it's back to the Gary Coleman syndrome as well. Even if your parents are well off, they're not always going to listen to their parents because they may feel they're making more than their parents. When you're sitting there for guidance, like me personally, it's only a few niggas that could tell me anything growing up. Maybe about four or five niggas, and they may not even been coaches. Because some coaches was cool, but they didn't have no money. For some coaches maybe know how to coach, but they'll tell us they were sniffing kilos last year or two years ago or whatever. Sometimes even though they were drug dealers that I looked up to, they had a bigger plan and didn't want to necessarily be drug dealers and take their money and do good shit with it. As far as guidance, who are these niggas looking up to? Sometimes you got to be your own guidance and say, Look, this ain't right. Or look, for me, my biggest thing as far as guidance growing up and even today, looking at other people's mistakes.

I'm not doing that. He did that. I can't fuck with that. I ain't going to do that. Sometimes you can't blame it on, I didn't have a father figure or nobody was there for me. You got to look there and say to yourself, you all don't want to be go broke like... I'm not disrespecting that. This is just documentaries. Lose my money like Charles Spiegel, lose my money like Antoine Walker. Lose my money like MCAP Hammer. I'm not saying these people don't have money today. I'm just stories of people who had tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars and don't have that anymore. A lot of times they just be like, Can I hold son? Can I borrow this? Can I hold this? I'd be like, You have 50 million at one point. I don't have a problem lending you anything. If you have 50 million, you just can't budget your money or 100 million and you want to borrow something, I can't be lending you bread and you fumbled $100 million. What I do want to do is give a big shout out to those niggas in Seattle, though, because those are the best.

They have a-.

A.

System. -a system. A clergy system is the word I was going to use of how the next NBA player looks out for the next up and coming NBA player, and they keep that going and going. Jamal Crawford talked about it when he was on the show here. If you didn't hear Jamal Crawford talk about it, it was dope because I already knew about it through Jingles and through Mace on how Doug Christy look out for Jamal Crawford when he gets to the NBA. When Jamal Crawford gets to the NBA, he'll look out for Brandon Roy. Brandon Roy gets... I may be wrong in the order, but Brandon Roy looks like- Jason Terry. Yeah, Jason Terry. Then he looks out for Nate Robinson. Nate Robinson looks out for Murray, and the list goes on and on. Those are the best role models and guidance you can listen to. The reason why that works is because you're looking at somebody that wants to be in the same field that you're in. They're going to listen to you to see what they can do to be in the NBA as well. I think that's a great system. A lot of teams, cities, and anybody who has inner city talent or not inner city talent around the country to look at this system because it may not just have to be for sports, it could be about life.

Okay. I want to.

Say what both of you guys said is super, super dope because I know we come up here and joke a lot about a lot of things, but this is a very real conversation that needed to be had because to Cans point, influencers are very important. Even to your point, Mace, a lot of people haven't been able to build their relationship with God or whatever they decide to believe in. It's important because that's not even said, especially from people with big influences. Mace, I'm sure you all are really listening to what they're saying because they're giving you a lot of truth that isn't said a lot. Moving along, the Raptors played the Hornets, beating them 1-14 to 99. Ahead of the game, Myles Bridges was denied entry into Canada due to legal situations. Essentially, a tweet, Myles Bridges tweeted he got denied in the six. Thoughts on the situation and the Raptors win.

Here we go again. That's what I said. When I was on my way here today, I felt extremely overwhelmed with every situation being the same situation is that you're trying to advance yourself and great success, even like what Cam was talking about. Every person that has ever had great success have had an inner image of that success first. That's where it comes from. A lot of times we're just looking at a lot of the outward situations that are happening, but it's coming from somewhere. It's just crazy to keep having the same conversation because even though this is slightly different, it's the same thing. It involves a young black guy with money. It involves a young lady, children, and some crazy behavior. Like Cam said, the... What are you? How do you say, killer? The pocketwatching. He's the hustler. He's the pillow talker. He's the.

Pillow talker.

And betrayal. Backstabbing betrayal. This is exactly what we constantly watching. Even when he gets to the stage now, he can't go into Canada and get another bag because of a decision that Zab hit me up for another decision that he made involving a young lady. Is that his wife that he went through the domestic thing with?

Yeah, I think it's his.

Baby mama. I think it's his baby mama. Same thing. I'm going to make myself available, pause, to start doing some counseling.

In that situation, is he guilty or did he cop out no contest?

That was in no contest. No contest.

Yeah, get Drake number. He get anybody in there, bro. I think that Drake, you got a problem getting into Canada. You got to be cool with Drake. I got a felony, nigger. Look, let me tell you something about Canada. I'm not talking about this situation with Miles Bridges or not. I'm just giving you an advice on getting into Canada. I got denied mad times going into Canada because I have a felony. Canada, you can't just roll up in to Canada because them niggas will pull out your whole history of crime. You can't run to Canada. You need to be cool with Drake. What I did before I was cool with Drake is I entered the rehabilitation program. It's a program they put you through up there, cost about $7,000, and you have to go through a rehabilitation program. I think it's three hours, an hour each time, and some online shit, but at least they'll get you in to Canada. It's a lot of money in Canada, and it's fun, fresh food, nice females. A lot of people are on Canada is dope. Now, outside of what Mesa saying, I'm just giving... I agree 100% with Mesa saying.

I'm just giving... Don't think I'm... Listen, this ain't just Miles Bridges. Anybody who think they could just go up to Canada, like we're going to go to Canada and you got felonies or you got a history of crime or you got some open cases, you're not going to get in. I've been to Canada, and I've been back there with Customs for hours, and they walked me right back to my flight and said, You won't come in here. Canada don't play that shit. You might slip through the cracks pause, but if you don't have your shit together when you go to that custom agent and you look nervous and you start stuttering, you'll be in.

The back. They'll even stop you in Canada for child support. If you're going through a dispute for child support, they'll stop you.

Man, I was in customs, man, in Canada, and I already have my rehabilitation paper so I could go through. They just put me through the ring. I end up getting in anyway. But I was back there with this Asian couple, and they were just hound on how they were about to put her through X-ray or type of shit because in China, you can only have one baby. There's some people act like they go on vacation to go somewhere else so they can have more than one baby. Custom is aware that if you have a second baby in Asia, it costs you $60, $70, $80,000. Me and Steph Marbury was talking about that. Sometimes people from Asia go to other countries to have their kid. I'm just sharing a story that I seen when I was actually in custom for a few hours. But don't think you just to Canada. Now what they're doing is to me, they're making an example out of Miles Bridges like NBA or not NBA. If we didn't let him in, do you think we're going to let a regular nigga in? Because he's there with a franchise, and I'm pretty sure that they tried to pull all the resources they can to get him in, and it didn't work.

What do you think their reasons are, though? Because it's been so many Americans that try to get through Canada customs and all of us for different reasons. What do you think they're really trying to make a point about?

I think Canada, and this is no disrespect, no disrespect whatsoever, none. But Canada may look at us how America looks at Mexico. The further we're down there.

You're not going to come up here with that.

Yeah, I did with that cartel. I think it's because Donald Trump wanted to build a wall and all type of shit. We're not letting them niggas in here. Now we're the next one up. Canada might be like, No, we ain't letting them niggas in up here. You all ain't just going to come up here and do everything you all niggas want to do. It's the Mexico, America, Canada. The further up you get the harder. Imagine a Mexican trying to get into Canada.

They definitely probably most likely not get in.

Yeah, exactly. Then that's all I could look at it as, because Canada, look, I'm not saying they don't have crime. I don't even know the statistics, but it may not be American crime. Yeah, exactly. Then American crime may not be Mexican crime. The Mexicans, the cartels, I lived in America my whole life, and I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I've never seen 13 human heads in front of the precent. Talk about, Leave us alone or you'll be gone. This happens in Juárez, in Mexico, and shit like that. The further up, the further north you get, the less likely it is for you to get in the country, my opinion.

Yeah. I was thinking about that. With a 10-year order protection or protection order, a 10-year protection order, it wasn't supposed to let them in there. Who? Miles Bridges. If you got a 10-year protection order, there's no way they're supposed to let you in there.

There's a lot of variables to it, and I agree with you. But if you fill out some work shit, too, it's a lot of different paperwork, like I said, to get in there because you can work for hire. I've been there too, for shows. It's a work for hire, and I had a felony and they let me in to work for hire. I just got tired of going through customs. I'm like, What do I have to do to not go through customs? But then again, it boils down the money.

Give.

Us this and we'll put you in a program, and then we'll let you in anytime you want to be letting. I'm basically not saying I'm... Because look, don't get me wrong, look, the felony ain't go away. I still got... I mean, it should be I'm going to go try and go get my felony exonerated because it's been over 10 years. But when I went in there, I still had the felony. It was still a gun charge, but I paid and I went on online rehabilitation, which is like, Are you better? Yeah. Are you going to do this again? No. You promise? Yeah. Do that really mean I'm rehabilitated? I was never like that, like that I'm talking about, but I still had the felony. But to me, it boils down to the money.

Okay, last thing before we go to break, I know the topics are very heavy hitting you all today, but former NBA G League player, Chance—I don't want to butcher his last name—Camoncha and his girlfriend were arrested and are facing an open murder charge in relation to a killing and kidnapping of a missing woman in Las Vegas. Thoughts on the situation.

I don't know what to say. I'm serious. No, I know.

It's a lie.

You know what? I get what needs to happen. I'm about to start praying for these niggas for real. Absolutely. Yeah, for real. Absolutely. Because this is crazy. How do you go from basketball to even being in a position of a girl murdered? I don't... They can say they got other guys. He need Jesus. He definitely. The show today is heavy, but that's the only thing I know that could really help niggas, man. For real, that's crazy. If a girl, Papa, dead, basketball doesn't matter. I don't know nobody's going to stand with them on that. Nobody. It seemed like everything that's going on, even when Cam open the show with Cassie, it just seemed like people are just getting crazy, crazy, and crazy.

I don't really have too many details of the case. I'm looking at it right here. Only thing I'll say is with situations like this, it's like the oven, nigger, gitty. I just don't want anybody under the bus without all the information and everything else. Right now, he's arrested and his girlfriend's arrested. It's all accusations. But what we do know is that it's a female dead and that's a serious thing. I won't give my opinion on him or his girlfriend or anybody else because I don't know the facts. Right now, we're in a society is if somebody say he did it, then he did it. I just don't go by that. I just can't put that on anybody. But once I find out the facts and I know you did it, then I go in on niggas. A lot of people hit me, Oh, Cam. We're talking about the girl. Cam, you do this and you say this. I'm like, Yo. Because once you rape a female or do something that has to do with being a pedophile, I'm never fucking with you again. I'm going to go crazy on you, pause, and I'm going to make you look stupid and embarrass you up here.

Before I get to that, I like to know all my facts. This is a very serious situation, so I won't give my facts without having any more information. But I'm pretty sure more information will come out in the days to come. But what I will say is my prayers are rest in peace to the female who's not here anymore, and my prayers go out to our family.

Yeah. The female's name is Mariana Rogers. So rest in peace. Very scary situation.

Especially- What happened to her? She was.

Saying she was kidnapped and killed and her body was left somewhere. Yeah, scary situation in addition to me being a female.

In Vegas. That's what I'm saying. I agree with Cam about not really giving an opinion on a person. I'm giving an opinion on the matter. It's certain things you could just stay free of. That's what I'm talking about, how niggas is moving. I try to do things a certain way so if somebody put my name in something, I know they lying, you know what I'm saying? That's more so what I'm speaking of. I didn't always do things that way, but I definitely try to live that way now. If somebody say something you can know, yeah, that nigga lying.

Yeah. Okay.

Yo, for real, if you need counseling, your boy is here for you. All jokes aside, RSVP Mace, DME, I get back with you. I'm praying for you, man.

We're going to go to break, and when we return, we will talk about the Eagle's loss.

She called us thinking.

About.

Toxic. Boy isn't counting. Got you feeling.

Like an option.

Maybe I'm a home.

Problem, baby.

She tired of hearing, I don't know. What's up.

You and me won't fuck. Dealing with.

This thing.

Called.

Trust. But she really.

Thinking about it.

She want to be free.

Wind my.

Head to.

Swim.

Away. She want.

To be free.

Hell, I.

Don't want to see her walk away. I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let her win, and it's cool.

Even when I'm ready to sing about.

Welcome back. Let's get into our Underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Celtics will play The Warriors. Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at 42 and a half points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have a higher or lower, Mace? Lower. Okay, Jaylen Brown is at five rebounds. Do you have a higher or lower? Cam?

Lower.

Say that again. Jaylen Brown, five rebounds.

Higher.

Okay, and Steph Curry is at 26 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower? Mace.

Higher.

Okay, make sure to download the Underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too. It's been a very interesting week in sports. The Eagles lost to the Seahawks 20 to 17 with Seahawks Drewlock as quarterback. Thoughts on their loss.

Eagle is off-form with the ball. There's no pun intended. The Cowboys lost yesterday and you all could have led in the division. This game puts you all back behind the Cowboys in the division. You secured your playoff spot. But with San Francisco playing well, San Francisco playing really well, it's you guys, the Eagles I'm talking about, and the Cowboys trying to buy the first week, so you don't have to be a wildcard team. You funnable be. Gilly, maybe you should bring Wallow back as an Eagle fan. You dismissed him saying he was bad luck. He's not an Eagle fan anymore. Now what's the excuse that you guys lost? Don't blame Wallow anymore, Gilly. What I will do is give a big shout to my man Drew Lock. He fucked with that Yeezy. You know that nigger. I don't know if you all remember when he's on the sideline, when he played for Denver, he's playing, Yeah, man, my spaceship. He loved Yeezy, and he listened to Yeezy before the game. So big, big shout to Drew Lock. This was a good game for Seattle. I have to see where their understanding is. But this is more about the Eagles not taking advantage of the Cowboys losing yesterday, and now you're second in the division.

Congrats.

Well, I mean, Julie and Love, his two interceptions is really the plays of the game other than that touchdown catch that we hope somebody in Kansas City start catching. That's the same they've been dropping every game for Kansas City.

Yeah. I mean, listen, South Side Jew, my nigger, South Side Jew, I know you're upset to all you're niggers in Philly. Y'all fuck the opportunity up, and you have nobody to blame for yourself. This is what I'll be talking about when these teams are hot in the beginning of the season and then fuck up when the playoffs come around. I don't really have nothing to say.

Bless you. Thank you. That's that. Okay, the Clippers are on a roll. They beat the Pacers 151 to 127, making this their eighth straight win. Can you see the Clippers continuing to win?

Well, before I talk about the Clippers continuing to win, the Pacers, it looked like people are targeting them now. They're targeting now. It seemed like they're not out for the challenge. But I'm happy that the Clippers are starting to win. I think it makes for a sensational showdown between the Lakers and the Clippers, especially with the way they're playing now. Tau, I know, Tau-Lu is happy. I could see them continuing to win for a little bit. I'm not going on a limb yet and saying that they're coming out of the West, but they definitely looking like they're trying to get to the semifinals.

Shout to Tau-Lu. I've seen Tau-Lu at a Rich Falls 42. What's up, Tau? Big shout to Tau-Lu. Look, Talu said he needed ten games. He was right. When James Harden got there, give him ten games to see what he could do. I think it was about eight games when he started turning it around. Me and Jamal Crawford believed James Harden should come off the bench. Russell Westbrook took it upon himself to come off the bench. Tau-lu, he started getting in the kitchen and cooking. They figured it out. We still haven't heard a lot from Kauai, and I believe he's still their best player. But looking at some of them, I've seen two games, full game since James Harton's been there and they both was victories and the highlights. It's looking like we see one thing about James Hartin, when he's happy, he's going to ball out. He's in a place where he's happy. It seems like he's pretty happy. We got to remember, he also led the league and assists last year, and that's big for somebody who led the league and scoring before most foul shots, we know he can score the ball, but for him to get assist leader last year was big also.

When he's in a system where he likes and somewhere where he wants to be, James Harden is going to ball out. Right now, the Clippers, they are in sixth place in the west. They're actually ahead of the Lakers, ahead of New Orleans, ahead of Phoenix, ahead of Golden State. I want to give Talu a shout out for figuring this thing out, and we'll see where it goes from there.

No shout out to the goat. Shout out to the goat. Paul George has been making this happen. It's courtesy of Paul George.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but if Kylu don't have him out on the floor, it can't happen, man. But shout to the goat. Big shout to the goat.

Okay, C-Thunder defeated the grizzlies 1:16 to 97, and John Morant is expected to make his season debut tonight. How do you feel about both teams?

I'm here for it, false. I'm here for a job.

Yeah, you might as well not have sprung up the game last night. Niggas just waiting for the night, nigga. The niggas sitting at home with their popcorn and everything else. I'll tell you one thing, man, listen, this is the most excitement pause I felt in a little minute. I don't think I was this excited to see Wimbay play. I wasn't this excited. He was a new phenomenon, and we have to see him play.

I can't wait to see Joe Dunk on Wimby.

It's a certified Assassin returning tonight. I'm pretty sure not just us. Any basketball fan will be totally locked in. What I don't want is him to be too hype. He probably like, one of them shits where the matter door is waiting and the bull is just in it. You got to open the door. You just run when you open the door. I don't want them to go too crazy, but this is a nigga with a lot of pent up energy, pause, and a lot of probably frustration for watching the organization be in a position where they at now. He may be a little bit responsible for that. So now he may try to make up too much too quick, but if he does, so what? I'm here to watch it. I can't wait.

I definitely think I agree with you. I definitely think it's an awkward moment, though. When John comes through the locker room and D-Rose is sitting right there and they said they're going to babysit.

Well, you know, John was allowed to be around the team. He just couldn't be at the games or participate in any games, but he's been around. He's probably been looking...

You all think after the game's been over.

I'm talking about he.

Ain't babysat. I'm saying when he comes out dunk on a nigga, I wonder what's the reaction between him and D-Rose.

Marcus Smart said something too as well. The whole thing about it, I don't even think it'd be the in-game reaction. I think he been giving them reactions like, Look at Unk and I'm talking about they don't want to babysit. They need a babysitter.

Ice.

In their knees every night and all this crazy shit. I'm excited. I'm very excited.

Me as well. Okay, the Mavs lost to the Nuggets, 130 to 104. This is with Yorkitch only scoring eight points. What are your thoughts?

I'm still thinking about the jaw game, actually. I was just thinking if you only have a 12, I ain't watching the NBA no more. You all got to go crazy. Now, who are you talking about after that?

Mavs versus the Nuggets. Yokech, only scoring eight.

Oh, man. Job planning.

Look, you know what's crazy is that we talked about this game yesterday morning, and we were like, Oh, this is about Europe and where they come from, and this is going to be big, and so on and so forth. It was a blowout. It was a blowout. Highest, Jamal Murray, 22 points, Aaron Gorton, 21 points.

We didn't expect a good game out of this.

I did. You did? I did. You got the number four seat against the number one seat. You got two Europe players speaking about Luca and the joker. I thought it was going to be a really good game. I thought was going to be like, Yeah, let's see. Because we talked about how they don't come over here and take games off like other players because they're so far from home. I'm very shocked that.

This could be tomorrow. This is like back in the days, a group of guards playing against a dominant big man.

Yeah, well, at the end of the day, Lucas still had 38. This is what I'm talking about. Lucas came to play. The joker probably felt he didn't need it. He had a triple single tonight. I don't know. I didn't see this game, but looking at the stashie, they didn't really need him. They won by 24 points. Lucas is still getting 38 points. Only one other player had double digits. This is what we were talking about. Does Lucas make the team better? I know Kyrie is not there, but when the next highest score person only has 11 points, you get a 24-point loss.

Right. Pretty bad. Yeah, but to your point, Kyrie was out and Derrick Laverier Center was out, so.

They were. Anyways, next thing. Job my rant.

-anyways, next thing.

-job, my rant.

Okay, and lastly, last week the Rockets beat the grizzlies 1:03 to 96. Dylan Brooks made things clear by saying, I don't want to lose to Memphis ever in my career. I want to win every single time we play Memphis just to let them know they made a mistake. Thoughts on his mentality.

Who wants to lose for the team that traded? They got rid of you? Of course, you don't want to lose them, niggas. You could have still been in Memphis if you wasn't talking shit about LeBron. Not only that, it isn't really about talking shit about LeBron. It's about you talking big shit to LeBron, and LeBron busted your ass after that. Now, if you would have been talking shit to LeBron and you all won that series and then you all went to the next round, you would still be in Memphis. Right now, you would still.

Be there. That's crazy how that one series got him out of Memphis.

Yeah, you know what it was, Murder? It was that John Moran with the guns. It was a lot of nonsense.

Yeah, and they had to make an escape goal. He was an escape goal.

They.

Couldn't get rid of John.

They couldn't. That ain't happening. See what's going on now. But of course, nobody wants to lose to the team and the guy rid of him. Duh. Fuck. Duh, nigger. Of course, you don't want to lose. Let me ask you this. Do you want to lose to anybody? I know you try to say, No, I really don't want to lose to them niggers.

Yeah, the bigger question should be, Dylan Brooks, do you want to lose to the Lakers? Yeah. That's who got you fired, man. Lebron got you fired. Don't take it out.

On Memphis. That's a great point. If you got a problem with anybody, it should be with one organization.

And one team. Every time you want to get 20 points, it should be against LeBron James.

Yeah, because he got you talk shit, and there was a whole thing. Don't poke the bear. You're poking.

The bear. Yeah, he made you move your whole family.

Yeah, and that's a fact. He may just switch times on, Zika. That's a great point, Mase. Don't stop worrying about the grizzlies. Worry about the nigga who got you kicked.

Out of Memphis. I would think it start laughing and they said, What you laughing at? I didn't slap you. He slapped you. Exactly. Lebron made you move.

Well, that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

Superst. Like when they doing them two-for-five. Two-for-five. It'll drive through.