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So I get pregnant, and My ex had said that it was really important to him that at my age, which was mid to late 30s, that I should want to start getting pregnant or thinking about that. And I'm a smart businesswoman, and maybe it was just out of love. But what was the rush? I was launching a cocktail. I was launching Skinny Girl. That's why I ended up unexpectedly having a pregnant belly, and I'd have to go to liquor signings in stores. I can only imagine what my partners were saying when I had to have a pregnant belly and go to liquor stores. Because you're not even... I was never allowed to take a picture with the bottle on my signings because I was pregnant. It was just not the ideal time. And in my gut, the whole thing felt strange. And then we got engaged during that time. It's just you know in your gut when something just feels off. But you just keep... For people that feel like when you're engaged, oh my God, or you're in a relationship with someone, you can't. Your parents will be upset, or then you're engaged and everyone's expecting a wedding, and you get layered.

And the more things that get added to it, it seems more like you can never get out. But if you feel like you shouldn't be doing something in your gut, if you don't know, yes, it's no. And so many times, from getting pregnant, to getting engaged, to doing the show, you just keep on the road. I don't know what you think is going to get resolved. You think it's you, you blame yourself, you're flawed, a million things that happen. Getting pregnant, we almost broke up many times. I wanted to break up, but there was fear, and you're pregnant, and you're doing the show, and it was just... I remember I was at an appearance and started bleeding a lot, and I had to go on bedrest. My ex said his parents, who lived 2 hours away, were coming in, and they were coming over when I was on bedrest. I said, I don't want to see anyone, and I don't want to come over. My ex said to me, Insisted that they come, and I didn't want them to come. I was on bedrest, and I felt like this dynamic This panic was being forced on me and this power struggle was being pushed on me because I've read later, years later, I read that when you're the moneyed spouse, it's a common thing if the moneyed spouse is a woman, that a man will feel emasculated and they will feel like they have to overcompensate in different ways.

It's not something in the beginning. When we're in the restaurant and we're talking about, I'm buying the apartment and this person is going to buy the furniture. We're on vacation and I'm paying for all of the air and the hotel, but this person is paying incidentals. In the beginning, that all sounds logical. You can be on a talk show and you can have a therapist come on and say, You know how to handle that? Where the man's the manny in the relationship. Both people, so it's not awkward, put money into the middle pot, and then all house expenses are paid through that. They make it all sound so logical. Because I listened to all of it and I did it. We had an account over here. Then I'm supposed I'm supposed to hand my credit card to the man in the relationship so he can be the man at the table and he can pay versus me paying because that's going to be emasculating. This is what the people who used to come onto my talk show used to say. We tried all these things and it was still awkward. It was awkward that I paid most of the rent.

It was awkward, all these things. Then there becomes this power struggle because the person that you're in a relationship with resents you for the career that you have. I'll never forget, I was in my relationship and we were discussing career and My ex was a trainer when I met him and also sold pharmaceuticals. But when he used to say that he hadn't found what he wanted to do with his life, or he hadn't found his calling, He's the only person in my entire life of 53 years on this planet that has ever said to me, Well, not everyone's like you. You're lucky. And I went bananas. No one's ever accused me of being lucky versus hard work in my relationship. There was a power struggle, and it would come out in different ways that you wouldn't expect. Any women who are in relationships with men that may feel emasculated, or there's a disparity in income, or the woman is the moneyed spouse, it would come out in non-ways that you would think. I was on a book tour, and I was six months pregnant, and I was exhausted, and I wanted to come home and miss Texas, I think it was, And I was excited.

I would come home. And I said, Let's just be together. Let's just be alone. He said, No, my parents are coming in. It was a separate time his parents were coming in. And I said, Right, but they live two hours away. Just cancel them. No. Just because you drop your tour, It doesn't mean we're all going to change our plans. It wasn't for a holiday or anything. And it was just like, But I canceled the tour so I could be home with you. But it had to be the power struggle. So his parents had to be forced on me. And I We had a decent relationship with them, and we would go there. He wanted to go there every other weekend, and I didn't want to go. We'd have to go there, or they'd come and stay in our apartment, two bedroom, on a pull out every other weekend. I didn't want that. That wasn't what was presented to me. You could have parents that live with you, and that's your own choice. It wasn't what was discussed in our dynamic, and it became very suffocating, and it became very overwhelming. It seemed like it was an overcompensation, which is totally understandable for a family member that was lost in the relationship.

But when we went to see a therapist and my ex divulged that he never cried and went right back to college when his brother passed away, I thought that was a flag to me. Who doesn't cry when their sibling passes away and goes right back to school? Nothing happened. I understand people want to go back. There were things that made me question Like a chip, like an emotional thing in the relationship. And so on many different occasions, there would be these forces of power, like trying to insert power in places where they don't seem like, I've learned this in a lot of therapy, where they seem like they are necessary. And it's because when someone is feeling powerless in a relationship because of what they do for a living or because of the amount of money they have compared to the other person, therapists have said that they will try to exert power in other ways.

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There was a time when we had just bought a brand new apartment, and we had gone away for an appearance I was doing in Atlantic City. My ex's friend came, and I'll never forget it, he came up off the escalator and he did a fist pump or fist pound, whatever you do. And he had a girl with him that was blackout drunk. They had had six Long Island Iced Tees, they said. They showed up to a casino where I was doing an appearance at because they live not not far, and she was blackout, and she started to pass out in a sushi restaurant where we were eating. I stood up and had to take her to the restroom. I went to my ex and said, This is not What the fuck? This is not acceptable. This girl is blackout, and I'm horrified. I'm working here. The guy was fine. The girl was out of her mind. When I say blackout, they had been at, I think it was like a sports game, like a baseball game all day. I think it was. They'd come from a sporting event and been drinking all day, rolling into Atlantic City.

She was totally passing out. It was my responsibility because he couldn't take her to the women's room to take her. I was feeling this albatross of this responsibility. Then shortly thereafter, we bought an apartment in New York City, and I was paying for more of the apartment, and I think it was my credit that was on the lease. My ex said, when we went away, and I just designed this apartment, and he said that they were going to stay in the apartment while we were away, this particular couple. I said, Absolutely not. The reason I bring this up is this became a massive fight, so much so that I remember it, 15 years later, because it was a massive fight and it felt like... It was that same conversation over and over about the power struggle. After I sold my business and made all this money and wanted to get an apartment downtown, and I wanted to use a person who specialized in downtown. I'm sorry, it was my money. It was money that I earned. My ex verbally abused me because I didn't want to use his friend who he had told me previously had, A, been very close to losing his job, B, he didn't respect the way this guy was doing his job, and he gave different examples.

He's dumb examples. He was like, I don't know why he doesn't try to send a car for someone when they're looking, or he's on the verge of losing his job. So we had a friend that was a very good friend. In fairness to him, it was a very good friend, and he was a very good, loyal friend. And this guy who he said was not doing that great was an Upper East Side Real estate agent. Now, you specialize in your area. And when we were looking not on the Upper East Side, we were looking downtown in Tribeca, the first money I ever made in my entire life. I was pretty much broke to my late 30s. Now, I made my first money ever in my life. I was buying an apartment. I didn't want to use a real estate broker that had had issues keeping their position and wasn't making their quota or whatever it is. You have to make a certain amount or have certain sales. And also didn't specialize in Tribeca. That felt to me like a fairly fair business reasoning. My ex went crazy. An exertion of the power struggle because he was feeling emasculated because it was my money, and I wasn't willing to compromise and use a person who doesn't know the area and has had no history of selling everything in that area.

But this was like a knock-down dragon, and there were these fights that I remember because it felt like there was a disparity in the power. You were being, I felt a little bullied because I wasn't doing what he wanted me to do in situations where I felt like I was pregnant. I was on bedrest. I felt like I had just picked a girl up off a bathroom floor who was passing out and who was blackout. I was supposed to be okay with the fact, A, that we were at an appearance, and this is who his friend brought. I was embarrassed, and I thought, I'm getting paid for this appearance, and I can't have people passing out a casino. It's a liability. And then that I was supposed to want those people to stay at my apartment, that I was supposed to want his parents to come stay at our apartment when I was bleeding and I was on bedrest, and that now I was supposed to use his friend's realtor because it's his friend and he's loyal. And I know we're married and it's our money. It's not our money. It's not really our money.

And we came to find that later in a divorce. We can say it's our money, but not... Men who have a billion dollars, who've been working for 40 years, and the woman's been supporting him the whole way through, they don't think it's the woman's money either in many cases. She supported him the whole way. Here we are a year and a half into knowing each other. I've gotten pregnant before I wanted to. My body, my choice, I'm stupid, and I will never regret my daughter for one minute. But I get pregnant while I'm launching a liquor brand six months into a relationship. Now I'm going to spend $5 million. The first money I've ever spent, I'm terrified out of my mind, I'm supposed to just use his friend who told me several things about who doesn't specialize in this area. I felt like I was bullied and waterboarded and flogged and I was on a road I could not get off of. It kept getting worse and kept getting deeper. Then we're going to get into, and I think we got into the prenup, but the prenup was something that my agent said I had to do.

I didn't want to do it. I said it last time, the Google gaga. I signed what would later be called by Alan Maievsky and Roni Chindell, a shitty prenup, but better than not having one, but a shitty prenup. In A fairness to the lawyer who drew it up, he's like, I cannot, in good faith, I should not be letting you sign this. Because I felt bullied and controlled in that, and it was never not brought up to me. Every day of our relationship, the prenup was brought up. Someone once said, A prenup is a poison injected into your relationship. So when people don't want to get married because they don't want to sign a prenup or they don't want to be in a contract, it's not like a prenup only is for the person with the money. It's just like it can be a poison injected. It was brought up all the every day, and in fights, in conflict even more, and hung over my head with why I should be doing things for my ex in different situations because of the prenup. So when he agreed to be on the television show, and we agreed to get married on a television show, and I didn't want the show to be about us.

The show that I pitched and sold, and Andy Cohen bought, and I was promised was going to be about my business, my business. And it ended up the ball kept moving, and then it was like, Well, but you're engaged. And it was never supposed to be Bethany getting married. It was never. It was supposed to be about my business. And the ball kept moving. And I kept saying, I don't want this to be Tori and Dean. I don't want this to be Tori and Dean. My gut inside my body said, I don't want this to be Tori and Dean. I don't want to involve him in this. And yet, he could say he didn't necessarily want to do it. He was doing it to support me, but I would show up to shoot, and he would already be miced at the house in scenes that he didn't even need to be And in fairness to him, the producers would call him directly and say, Hey, we want to shoot. But it was suffocating because then he wasn't really getting paid. And then he wasn't really getting paid because the show wasn't supposed to be about him.

So then I took part of my salary Because I felt guilty. I forgot all this. This is flying out of me right now. I forgot this. I took part of my salary, negotiated and gave part of my salary to him because he was supporting me and he kept throwing up to me that he's doing this, and he signed a prenup, and he's doing this, and he signed a prenup. But lo and behold, he would be shooting when he wasn't even needed to be shooting. He had a mic on and was at the apartment before I was shooting. So he seemed to be saying he didn't want to be shooting, but he was there at the ready, ahead of time. I felt like it was moving so fast. I didn't want the show to be what it was. It was driving. It was like the tail was wagging the dog. And yet sometimes it was fun, and sometimes it was funny, but the producers, it was all on me, and the show was on me, and it was on me because it's just me. It's not the housewise. It's just me. And then the wedding, and the game was moving really fucking fast.

And he was behind the scenes saying to me, What's going to happen to me in my career as a result of the show? And wanted me to give him financial assurances because he had agreed to do this show, that he was showing up ahead of time to shoot. And so that's when I ended up paying him a part of my salary. I felt like it just was just a nightmare.

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Danielle Moody here, host of the Wokey F Daily podcast. We've been with iHeart's outspoken network for a year, and what a year it has been. Every weekday, I navigate our rapidly changing world alongside our series of fabulous expert guests. As we head deeper into 2024 and yet another life-changing election cycle, Woke AF Daily is here to keep you sane and woke. Woke, not just to the latest headlines, but also to the collective power we all have. Woke to the need to build community with those around us. Woke to how to avoid burnout and Woke to the ways we can all find joy in the madness. Make Woke AF Daily with Danielle Moody, your podcast destination for 2024 election news and analysis. And tune in hear the ways I am working to stay grounded amidst it all. Listen to Woke AF Daily Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Across Generations, where the voices of Black women unite in powerful conversations. I'm your host, Tiffany Cross. Tiffany Cross. I want you all to join me and be a part of sisterhood, friendship, wisdom, and laughter. In every episode, we gather a seasoned elder. But Even with a child, there's no such thing as the wrong thing if you love them. Myself as the middle generation. I don't feel like I have to get married at this big age in life, but it is a desire I have and something that I've navigated in dating for. And a vibrant young soul for engaging intergenerational conversations. I'm very jealous of your generation that didn't have to deal with Instagram and Tinder. This is Across Generations, where Black women's voices unite And together, you know how we do? We create magic. Listen to a Cross Generations podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

So I ended up paying him part of my salary because I couldn't breathe and I was exasperated. And it was just like there was an imbalance in the power struggle, and it was a fucking disaster. It was It's a nightmare. I'm pregnant, and I'm getting married, and I've sold my business, and I'm buying an apartment, and I'm trying to pretend that everything's good. I'm talking to producers who don't really give a shit. It's not their fault either, but they want the wedding to happen. It was like 2.0. I've done this before. I've done this before. Not the same story because my ex is lovely, and it was the greatest divorce in history. My first marriage, if I only knew, and we still have a speak now and whatever, but where you're just knowing it's not right, and you just feel that you shouldn't be doing it, but you're doing it anyway because you just don't have a functioning parental structure. You've raised your sofa the most part, and you're raised by wolves, and you've been growing up in an abusive household, and no one's coming in and stepping in. It's no one's fault. I take all the accountability, but I did not know what's normal and what's not normal.

What's it supposed to be like? What's it not supposed to be like? I hadn't had an example of two people who stayed together for a long time to tell You're like, This is right, this is wrong. I had no sounding board. And therapists don't give you, tell you what to do. They just talk to you. They don't intervene and be like, No, there's just no person. And friends have their own... You're talking to producers. People are trying to also save face. You're trying to pretend you're in a good relationship because you're not going to tell everybody you're in a bad, you're not in a great relationship, and you don't think it's right. And I had a miscarriage. I was pregnant again. I had a miscarriage, and I was so relieved. I was so incredibly relieved. We were laying in bed, and he used to say to me, You're like a block of ice, because I did not want to be intimate. I did not want to have sex. I did not respect him. I did not want to have sex at all. He used to say to me, It feels like this bed is a block of ice.

I used to force myself, gag myself through doing it. Many of you know what that's like. It is torture. I was relieved, and I, in a constructive way, said, I'm relieved. It was a nightmare. That it happened. I said, I'm relieved because I don't think this is a healthy or positive relationship. It was like the first step to saying something. He said to me, You're a real piece of shit. You know that? The baby was in the house, and he moved out to a hotel downtown for a couple of nights, and it was a total relief. I started to panic and started to think, How am I getting the fuck out of this? How am I going to get divorced? I started to call lawyers and was swarming and couldn't talk to anybody and couldn't tell anyone and didn't know what to do. The prenup kicked in after two years, you then give the opposite party 10% of the increase in value of what your business was when you walked into the marriage. The biggest problem about that was that we got together and Skinny Girl popped off and I hit the lottery right after getting married.

My whole life been broke within the small scope of when I But pregnant really fast, engaged, and then married. Within that time, I hit the lottery. When we hit two years, the 10% kicks in. The reason this was so fucked up was that we didn't assign a value to what the business was walking into the marriage. I had to then later go deconstruct and get forensic accountants for over a year, hundreds of thousands of dollars on them, to do a deep analysis is to try to figure out what Skinny Girl cocktails was worth before we got married and then give a value two years later. It was not worth nothing before we got married because I'd put it on the show before we got married, because I had said Skinny Girl, because we talked about it in the reunion, because I had the jugs of the Skinny Girl. I had the logo. I was pouring it. People were obsessed with it. People were talking about it. I had multiple liquor deals coming in. I was doing it. I made a deal with my partner. We were launching it. What was that value of putting it on TV for all this time?

And that's when when I put it on TV, oh, sorry, and launching it. Then we launched it. Then it was in a bottle. Then it was the fastest-growing liquor brand. So what was it worth from me putting it on TV? And he was trying to claim that he was helpful in it, and he wasn't helpful in it at all. I mean, he was on the show with me, but it would have been another guy if it weren't him, respectfully, or it would have been a friend. It would have been my business on the show with me. The problem was I was trying to help him create value in his life because he kept saying he doesn't have a job, what's going to happen to him and all this. I would say to my partners, Can you meet with him and can you have him help? Can you have him help with sales? He's amazing at sales. I don't know if he's amazing at sales. He does pharmaceutical sales for years. He must be good at it. My partners would be like, not have anything for him to do, but for me, they would meet him and say, Fine, maybe he can do this.

But it was things that he'd go visit stores, and he'd visit stores on the show, but the stores didn't need visitors. We have salespeople that visit the stores. He was like, Frato to them doing this, but he wasn't adding value. He doesn't have expertise in liquor sales. It was like the Classic Kelly Clarkson's husband thing and all that shit. I think these men play into this shit because now all of a sudden, they're whittling their way into your business. In this scope of responsibility, he would handle all the emails and all the business stuff. He was helping me, just helping me out of the goodness of his heart. He was helping me, and he was signing. He was approving bills for me to sign. He was approving contracts for me to sign. So when we buy this apartment that he wanted his friend to sell and to represent, when we buy this $5 million asset, he's talking to the realtor, the new realtor, and he's talking to the guy who says we should set a trust so it's private, so no one finds out. He's pushing this trust, pushing this trust so it's privacy. People find out in five minutes anyway, and we're shooting there.

He's pushing this trust. This is going to be hard to follow. He pushes the trust, and for the time being, for temporarily, we put it in Molly Hayden. You can call her up, she'll verify all of this. Put the trust in her name temporarily. Molly was my former assistant. The apartment temporarily in Molly Hayden's name. My ex keeps saying to me, We have to get the apartment out of her name. We have to change the name. We have to change the trust name. He was obsessed with this. There were tons of emails and tons of things. So my understanding in the paperwork that I signed was that the trust was then put in my name, which is why the apartment was in my name. That was that missing step because my team had advised me to put it in someone's name temporarily, and that was how Molly got involved. But she obviously isn't going to be the person who the apartment's name is in, so we had to get that out. But it was a sense of urgency, and he was controlling that process. That's where the mistake happened that I didn't catch. The new co, and I didn't find this out for years that I couldn't figure it out.

I tell my financial advisor, Merrill Lynch, the one who approved the money, got the money. It's my money. I tell him, Yes, we signed it. The trust is in my name. The house is in my name. The apartment's in my name. That's in my name. So much to the point that we were going and doing estate planning, which also was another big argument because my ex didn't want that the money went to my daughter. How was I taking care of him and how was it going to him? Then he would pass it through to her. I wanted the money to go in a trust for my daughter. Except I said, Fine, the Apartment, which is in my name, I'll leave the apartment in your name, then I guess in a trust to go to Brinn. I agreed to that in the lawyer's thinking, and my lawyers were thinking, and I don't know why they didn't ask to see the trust. Because It was a different lawyer. It's a different document, thinking that that apartment is mine. After the two years, the prenup kicks in. Now I write the letter. You have to write a letter.

You have to mail it through the US Postal Service. I get on the phone with my lawyers and I assure them the apartment is in my name. Days later, I hire them. We're working together. They say, The apartment is not in your name. I'm like, What the fuck are you talking about? Because neither my agent, nor my lawyer, nor my Merrill Lynch guy, nor anyone that I know ever knew that the apartment was in both of our names. Now, how the fuck am I supposed... And they're saying to me, How the fuck are you supposed to prove that you're on the You're the cover of Forbes magazine and you're this successful businesswoman and you didn't know. And the light bulb is going off because I'm like, Because Jason fucking would approve all these documents, and he would have me sign all this shit all the time. All the time. And you know how that goes. It happens now sometimes. My business managers will sign off on something, or it's a small deal that's not a big thing. But it happens, and you could say it can't happen. And they used to say, Oprah would write every check.

If I had to read every single sentence of every single contract, it would be debilitating. I couldn't do all these deals. People know that. Mark Cuban doesn't read every sentence of every single thing. He probably does because he's a savant. But I mean, you have to trust somebody in the process. I thought I was trusting my husband, and somewhere along the line, I fucking signed a document where he gave himself half the apartment. But wait, there's more. I'm going to go in left and right and up and down because this is a 10-year divorce, but there are going to be things that take me off on paths about how you have to be careful. No one knows How this specifically happened. No one knows. We're trying to go back. We're trying to go with Molly. We're trying to chase documents. No one can figure this fucking thing out. We can't. Okay, the apartment is in a trust. Now, got to be two years later, two years, half a million in legal on the apartment, go to court, go to appeal, a million things. Two years later, I'm sitting in my house, and this is why you are your best lawyer.

Your lawyers are not you. You are the lawyers. Your lawyers are just facilitators. They call them solicitors in the UK. They're facilitators. You are your lawyer. They're not mind readers. They don't know everything. I'm like a savant about every single thing that's ever happened, every email. I'm like, Where the fuck? So one day, two years later, one of the three lawyers on my team says to me, because I go back again, you always go back to the scene of the crime. When you lose something, you can't figure something out in a deal or otherwise, you go back to the scene of the Where did I fucking lose that? What happened? Retrace my steps. So I go back with it. Again, I don't know how this could happen. How could it happen? They go, I don't know how you could have it. You have to sign, you have to have a notary present, et cetera. I'm like, Skidmark's what? A notary present? Yeah, they're like, The lawyer would be there, the notary be there. I'm like, What are you talking about? I never met a fucking lawyer or a notary. I remember everything I do. I've never met a lawyer or a notary.

I don't know why they didn't bring that up two years prior, but Because the document was signed and notarized. I go, What the fuck are you talking about? Now I start going back through the documents. I find the trust. I find the notarization. I put that to the side. There's a notarization. My ex's mother is the notary. Her name is there, but she has crossed out Pennsylvania because that's where she's legally a notary. She has written in New York, and my signature is forged, and she has signed it. But we find out, and I I don't know how we find this out. She was an expired notary. She wasn't even a legal notary at that time. She notarized this, crossed out Pennsylvania, put in New York, because she's a notary in Pennsylvania, or the reverse, whichever one the document needed. She crossed out whatever it said. Because I don't... And I have all these booklets. I have all of this paperwork. I have all the receipts. Now I go to all my notebooks of all the emails. I go back through the emails. The lawyer that we hired, but Jason was totally dealing with. He found a lawyer.

The realtor gives us a lawyer. We're dealing with a lawyer. I found several emails between him and the guy with my ex saying, Just put the trust in mind and put me on the trust. You need to put me on the trust. I wasn't on those emails where he was saying to put himself on the trust. I was conveniently left off of those emails He said, Put me on the trust. Then later, after this thing was signed, this lawyer sent my ex an email saying, One of these days we have to meet face-to-face, indicating to me that he's never met him face to face, much less have I ever met him face to face, much less has he been in our presence with a notary to notarize this document. That's what I then take to the lawyers. That's how we go to the appeal. That's how, after having pad locks in my room, which I'm going to get into also, having a lock at my door for years and having my assistance work in one quadrant in the office with a pad lock on that door and my ex not leaving my apartment, which is mine, I vacate my apartment.

Years later, that's how I finally got my apartment back. So next time, we will discuss what went on in that torture den, which is that apartment, which is what went on in court and what went on with my assistants, what went on with my staff, what went on with private detectives, what went on with being hacking, what went on with being followed, what went on with all of that. That all will be what went on with the padlocks and with my daughter, what went on with after school and how I would be in heels and my talk show makeup and hair and not want to go back into my house. I would have to go just take Brin somewhere in a car to like, Barnes & No or like the park in stilettos in full makeup. Because my home was a torture chamber. Everybody tells every person, the person who leaves is abandoning. It's called abandonment. The reason I stayed in the torture chamber is if you leave, you are considered you've abandoned the marriage and it could affect your custody. But I ended up leaving and the judge said, Thank God, somebody was smart enough to do what's best for this child.

Because the first day we ever went to the judge with the two lawyers for the custody, for the custody situation, and I'd put out a statement saying, We will be family forever. We do this amicably. I genuinely thought we could do it amicably. I wanted slightly more than 50/50 custody because I knew I had a very rigorous schedule. I proposed because I knew that I would be flexible and give him back days all the time. I knew that he wouldn't, which is a foreshadowing because he didn't. We'll talk about that, too. We have to talk about later, the phone calls and the rigidity with the schedule. I wanted it to be amicable. I wanted it to be... I wanted us to be a family. I wanted it to work. I wanted us to do holidays together. It started a den of hell. The most significant torture I've ever been through in my entire life was that apartment. That apartment was a hell hole. That five-a-million-dollar apartment that ended up being worth seven million was a hell hole and suffering. And the first day we went to the judge, met with the judge. She said, A custody battle is like watching your child drown and begging you for help.

I was crying and I thought, Yey, he's going to hear that, and we're going to resolve this, and it's going to be fine. And very shortly after that, I offered him $2.2 million, a $2.2 million package, including an apart Apartment that would come back to me. I think it was an apartment in Brinn's name. I think that was in one of the offers, an apartment to live in that would come back to me later or be in Brinn's name or some version of that. And he had Eleanor Alter, Ron Perlman's lawyer, this famous lawyer who told him to take the deal and then fired him afterwards for not taking the deal because it was in the very beginning before he spent any money on legal, and it was $2.2 million on a two-year marriage, plus what ended up being $7,500 a month in child support. $2.2 million on a two-year marriage, so paying plus money he made on the show. So he made several hundred thousand dollars in the show, plus now he's two and a half years in, and he's going to have a $2.7 million package for two years. Turns it down. Wants at least four to five times that.

First lawyer fires him.

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