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Jealous that I put your infant on. Be a professional, John. Wear your headphones, aren't I? No, I don't want my hair. Me neither. Hello and welcome to literally with me so today, Jon Lovitz. Who is certifiably insane, and I don't say it lightly and I would say to his face, I didn't hear I never actually said that to his face.

But let's face it, showbusiness is filled with people who are.

Not normal that I think everybody would agree with that and among people who are not normal, Jon Lovitz is certifiably insane and he's one of the funniest men, naturally, truly just who he is. Really, really funny.

I've known him forever and ever and ever. And I'm really happy to share this interview with you, which, incidentally, was probably the very first interview we did when we started the podcast back in March. And we've been saving it and we've figured now it's time to finally unleash the love. It's insanity. But pay close attention to the fact that this was done when we could actually have actual human beings in the room. So there will be people laughing.

And it's not our attempt at a soundtrack, a bad soundtrack, like a sporting event, although I'm thinking about doing that just like every bad piece of TV you watch now, there's just like clearly artificial fake crowd underneath it to make us think everything's normal.

This could be a test for that. Anyway, this is the very first one we ever recorded, so.

Hopefully, I've learned to be better since this thing you're about to listen to. Here it is. How long have we known each other, would you say? Well, I think I first met you when you hosted SNL back, and 90 was, you know, is that the year it was 90?

Yeah.

My first memory of of you was when you do Saturday Night Live, you it's a very big day when when you decide what's when they decide what's going to be on the air or not and the host gets to have a say in it and all of the yeah.

After dress rehearsal goes from like eight to 10:00 and then you go in the room and and it goes a long time and people decide and everybody's gone home. And I walk out. There's only one person at the door waiting and it's Jon Lovitz.

And you were like, what's happening? Well, they brought me in last night.

They wanted you to you were trying to figure out if you're if your sketches got on.

Now, that's you know, they know that dress rehearsal goes from eight to ten and then that, you know, you go into Lauren's office with the host and everybody in the head writer and they're picking stuff.

And then one by one, they will this sketch work Lawrences and then it will bring in so-and-so. And then finally at 10, 30, they bring everybody in. Oh, so you sometimes they have to change. Well, they'll do 14 sketches and they'll cut six is like an hour of show.

So they want to know if you have time to make the change from if they change the order, the sketches, because between sketches you'll have like two minutes to change.

Did you do you have to go in there and defend your sketches you wrote?

No, no, Susan, I wrote a lot. Yeah. Or usually with somebody by myself, but usually with someone.

But yeah, I wrote my stuff and half of it.

And then but I have to say, when I was there, most of my almost all my stuff always got in.

What, what made you was that the liar. Was that the one that broke through for you first? Because everybody has that moment where the character goes crazy and everybody falls in love with it.

It was just an inside joke between a friend of mine and I, a friend of mine, a girl that I liked forever. And she'd say, I like a guy with a fat wallet. And I go, Oh, well, my dad just had fifteen oils come in and and I go, well, I am a pathological liar.

You started like that. And then I did it in the Groundlings where we'd have to create a character and then the audience would ask you questions.

So I said, you know, Hello, my name is Tommy Flanagan. I'm a member of Pathological Liars Anonymous. In fact, I am the president of that organization.

And then Robin Schiff, who wrote Roamin Michelle's Big Adventure and Big Right. She was in the group. She was John, you set it up perfect. You could say anything she says. Let's try it. What's your favorite sport?

And I went bowling and it just seemed funny because, you know, he's lying.

And and I realize I go, oh, my God, I didn't even see it.

The first monologue I wrote was like a guy to Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, but instead it's Pathological Liars Anonymous. And of course, AA is not funny, but I here, you know, oh, my name is Bob and here's my story. So I thought it would be funny if a guy got up and said a story and then just started lying about it.

And then so it's very funny. Yeah. So I did it and then then Whitney, I always give him fifty fifty credit after that because he really helped me expand it.

I know what I want to ask you about. Tell me about the arms. The master, the master thespian. Was he based, was he based on anybody.

A few people. I was, I went to college at UC Irvine and I had a great teacher, William Needles, who was a founding member of the Stratford Festival Shakespearean Festival in Canada. Yeah. So he would have been like in English.

He'd be Sir William Needles, you know, he was. But anyway, the point is he taught us Shakespeare, Rob, so I'd never heard any.

So he gets up, he goes, he spoke like this. He knows. All right. Well, I'm going to teach you Shakespeare. So this is the opening chorus from Henry the Fifth.

Oh, for a muse of fire that would send the brightest heaven of invention. And I'm like, fuck that. I'd never heard anything like it. You know, it was crazy. So I kind of based it on him.

And I like old movies. John Barrymore and and John Carradine are that big booming voice.

They all started out, you know, and so I made it all that Laurence Olivier loved. So I made up a character. So all my characters are arrogant idiots like but likeable.

So this actor thinks he's the greatest actor ever and he's horrible, but he has no clue that he's horrible and he's always the same, just horrible. But he loves acting, you know. And then when people comment on how bad he is, he gets his feelings hurt. I can't easily.

And then and they go, I'm sorry, Kostabi acting, you know? So I mean, I did that in the Groundlings. Yeah.

That was a fun character. I'm a I'm a massive SNL fan, as you can tell.

And oh, you know, I used to be on the show. That's what they tell me. And there's always it's kind of like being a sports fan. You argue about who is the best team of all time. And people obviously argue about who was the best. Not ready for primetime players cast of all time.

I think your cast in some blasphemous is even better.

In the original not ready for primetime hours, I really do. Who am I to argue, you know, and argue?

And you say, well, people ask me that and I always say, I think let's go through. So you're it's Dana Carvey.

Well, my first year, you see, it was it wasn't those people, by the way.

I always think the original cast was the best because they were following in their footsteps. But my first year.

It was Dennis Miller and Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Michael Hall, you were in that group, Terry Sweeney and Randy Quaid and Nora Dunn and Denature Vance and John Cusack and myself. And then the next year, they they kept Nora and Dennis and I, and then they got run on Dana Carvey and he brought on Kevin Nealon.

And I helped Phil get on. Well, I didn't. Not just me, but they go to work. Well, they go Phil.. But other Lorraine Newman and Charles Grodin, they recommended Phil, too, and they had recommended me, which, you know, helped tremendously. So it's so.

And then and then it was Dana. There was eight of us for four years before Mike got there.

It was Dana, Phil Hartman, Kevin Nealon, Dennis Miller and myself.

So was five men.

And then the three women were Nora. Jan Hooks. Mm hmm.

And Victoria Jackson, I like Jan Hooks, she's cute. Oh, did you mean you don't remember that? No. Tommy John wasn't married then. I don't remember. Funny, funny, smart women.

My downfall. Yeah, I think I think that group, the 90 group was the group for sure.

And Phil, it was your best buddy.

I did a I was the king of the Groundlings and I got to understudy.

Excuse me. Oh, I just did a play he was in and he and because of that I got the growling.

So he was like my big brother, who I adored and wanted to be like idolized him.

And we became very close friends like brothers.

Jan. Stop talking about champ. OK, Rob Blow, Jonathan Lovett's this is why this is why I wanted you on the show, because nobody has what?

No one has my personality. Look at my questions. I got a list of what I have a better quiz. All right. I think people want to know more about this.

All right. What it seems to me, why don't you have some kind of facial cream that doesn't make people age? You know, you and Cindy Crawford, you don't age. And I know you told me once, well, my dad, you should see my dad's genes. But what is it? You have all your hair. You have no wrinkles. Well, I do. I actually do have my own line of of men skin care because, yes, you do what's called it's called profile for men.

And there's a line called Cobalts, which is another iteration of a you can look it up, but I don't want you stayed thin.

That helps expand it quite. Have you. Have you been on diets.

Ever, ever. Shut up. Ever. Does it ever occur to you. Yeah. You Dick ok. I was on a pie pie diet I would throw down but it doesn't work.

Do you know that I took Farly to dinner Chris Farley to dinner once and he ate two bone in porterhouse steaks too. And on top of every bite he put an entire cube of butter. OK, bone in. I thought we were going to stop talking about Jan Hooks from my God.

No interest in the Farley story brought it up. No, I was very good friends with Chris. I don't know what it takes for people to believe that you can't do those drugs are going to kill you.

I don't know how many people have to die. It's like you go, I want to scream at them. Like, don't be an idiot.

Like you go, no, it won't affect me. Yes, it affects everybody. You know, that's the thing about Chris. Very sad about Chris. I try Billy. I try to help him from the day I met him.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. The day I met him, I called Jim Belushi's agent and said, Did you have Jim call this guy? He idolizes John Belushi. And after Chris died, I said to Jim, Did you ever call Chris? He said, Yes. I said, What? Did you get my message? He goes, Yes. What did you say to him? And Jim said, I said, My brother's dead. You get it.

So if you're listening, don't just don't even try this stuff. Just don't. I said don't bone in.

I mean, it's kind of a mic drop. All right, Rob, I mean, I don't mean to interrupt. Let me ask you where we know the show's better when you run it.

Ali MacGraw, Ali McGraw. Well, you are young and twenty one.

And, you know, older women like younger. She was she was rattling around Broadbeach when I was growing up in Malibu.

Didn't you have a house in Malibu? Yeah, I rented it with Mark Gurwitz.

Well, you didn't live with Brad Pitt, did you? No, that's a story, no, that's another story. Oh, we wouldn't want to hear that. Forget that. We're not interested in that. Who wants to hear about you?

Well, Brad's manager rented the house next door and she had all her dogs. So her dog, Cynthia, paid his manager. You saw that he brought to the Oscars.

She was looking her dog was looking through the window at my house, at the cat's eye. What is your dog doing? You know, now he loves cats the next day. Oh, Brad Pitt was staying at the house next door. The next day, Brad's walking down the beach anyway. He's walking all these dogs.

Next thing I know, Markazi, we're friends. We're in the house.

And he goes. He starts going, your cats dead, I go, but every time it turns out that the that the oh, this is a funny story. So that so not funny.

But was it was funny with that death that was he was walking nine dogs and Cynthia's dog who was staring at my cats. Broke away the next morning, ran into the house, into my bedroom and murdered my cat, broke his neck, the best cat ever, like, unbelievable. And I got this cat after my dad had died and they helped me, like, feel better and attacked Mark's cat. And so then Brad, my cat's dead and then Cynthia's like, I'll get you another cat, I go, what do you get me?

Another cat? I told you yesterday your dog is going to kill my cat that night.

Cynthia also manages Courtney Cox, who I've been friends with since this movie Mr Destiny in 1988, really close friends with her.

I go to their house that night and there's Cynthia and she's crying. These five women and they go, What are you going on? We feel so bad for Cynthia. You feel bad for Cynthia. My cat was killed.

Murdered. Most foul in my bedroom. Right.

And Courtney goes without food chain. I go watch. Excuse me, food chain. Yeah. Cats killed. My cat was in my bedroom minding its own business. The dog came in and murdered my cat. Five years later, someone says to me, Courtney Cox, his grandmother died. And I said, Oh, tell her food chain.

Three years later, I see her at a Dodger game. I go, Oh, court, because celebrity game and her husband, David Arquette, playing baseball.

And I see her like, oh, she is. You're still mad about it? I go, Yeah, food chain. I go, I heard you came in the food chain. I could just say you're sorry, Courtney. She's OK. I'm sorry. OK, fine. Yeah, unbelievable. Someone slams me, I you hold a grudge, I go back times 10, that's called being Jewish.

Hold that thought. We'll be right back. I love the holidays, it's never too early to start thinking about the holidays. I like my Christmas carols. I put them on early. It's true. I love holiday commercials. This is a holiday commercial for Best Buy and I've never been more excited. I have goose bumps because for me, Best Buy is genius because literally anything that you want is there at a great price. It's like the world's biggest Christmas tree.

But you're not disappointed that your parents didn't get you something.

You got a Best Buy, you go to that tree, you're going to get what you want and you're going to get it at a really good price. They've got you covered.

So if it were from me to me a gift that I would want a Best Buy, I was thinking, OK, so the Chris Trager, that part of myself, Chris Trager from Parks and Rec, what would he want from Best Buy under the tree? OK, so you can help me with this one. You can't. You're listening. This is not a live show. He's a fitness freak. OK, so maybe what I would want would be.

But he's also a budget man. He's been counter frugal. Trager's frugal man. Maybe one of the hydro this hydro rowers. Best Buy has them. They're awesome. Good work out. Save money on a gym membership. There are really, really cool. Rob Lowe has one. I think it's only fair that Chris might get one. Yeah, pathetic.

I wouldn't mind a pair of jaybird Vistar, sweat proof wireless headphones, I can use them now because I'm sweating like a pig because it may be the holidays. The guy got news for you. It ain't the holidays in Los Angeles. In the trailer where I'm recording this at all and I'm sweating. And the earbuds are falling out, so I look look, the point being, whoever you're shopping for. Best Buy helps you focus on what matters most this holiday season, they great deals on tech every day, so that's a great thing to look for there.

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You do you have a thing? You name your your your animals after people.

After my friends. Yeah. My cat was Mark. Mr. Mark Stevenson, named after Mark Gurvitz. I have a dog now. Jerry Bruckheimer. The Third Way here is named after my cat, Jerry Bruckheimer.

You named your cat Jerry Bruckheimer for Jerry Bruckheimer is one of the biggest producers you guys have seen as names and credits. So I had to catch Jerry and Linda Bruckheimer.

And Linda, the wife, you've got to do it because what happens is I've got to do it. Oh, look, look, Linda Bruckheimer has taken a big crap in the kitty litter box and they get really mad, but it's hysterical.

That's why, like, I have a dog, Rob Lowe. Oh, I got to go. Rob Lowe has taken a big crap in the park. Rob Lowe has diarrhea. Yeah, try it. Try it.

Because I do animal I do people names for my dogs, but they're just like Eddie and, you know, I like to name them after my friends do friends or get mad.

What is Jerry Bruckheimer think about it?

No, he's very he's very touched by it.

Yeah. How touch Disney is. They're giving you a job in any of his big hits. Is he that touched by it?

Well, he'll say he did, but he says I passed Dana and I were supposed to do bad boys originally.

Well, I didn't hold the phone.

Well, you didn't know that you and Dana Carvey is the original bad boys. How bad? Because you've been. Well, that's about it was it was a yeah, it was a long story, but I said I would do it and then went over to Columbia and Barry Josephson was the president of Columbia. He used to be my manager. I'd fired.

And so then he said, let's switch it up. And so it worked out.

He said, let's switch it up to something that could be a hit that you bastard.

I didn't think I'd be this mean to my one of my earliest guests.

OK, you're a huge movie star and now you're doing a podcast that really did catch a falling star. Do fallings. You, John, you may have told my single favorite. Oh, wait a minute, you just got a new show, too, right? I do. I'm on a nine one one Lone Star. You're welcome.

I was up for that part and I said, let Rob do it. I have to go to the bathroom. Thank you, John. You're welcome.

Do you remember hosting it was a big, very important charity event honoring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Do you remember this? Give me a run of this. Yeah.

Tom Arnold put together a roast. It was to help him raise funds. Yes. To join a Democrat. But I said, yeah, Arnold Arnold's my friend. I'll do it. I don't care. Do you remember what you said? Yeah, Jamir, single eye opening line. Yeah, well, what happened was I said, yeah, I said, you know, I like Arnold, but I was I was at the U.S. Open playing tennis.

And at the end of it, I'm waiting for a car from from friends of mine with some friends of mine. There's like 50 people waiting for these town cars. And I also in a limo drives up and and the window rolls down and it's Arnold.

And he goes, John, forget to do your abs today.

And then he rolls the window up and drives away and everyone's laughing at me. And then tonight I said, I wear my my nice, really nice, you know, cashmere suit. And I take a picture with Arnold tonight and he goes, nice suit. Is it made from drapes? I said, So now tonight I go now Arnold. It's my turn. I go now. It's my turn to say one thing to you and I go well.

I think tonight's the first time a juice roasted a Nazi. No, no, no, and by Nazi, I mean when he was a movie star, I did not see him becoming a governor.

I was there for it. I remember. And then I said something about. But Arnold, he's got the the the soul of a hero in the heart of a pig because he had that pig valve.

It was a roast supposed to roast.

My favorite is the explanation here is that of a pig valve. It's the pig valve. Rob, do you have any Chris Farley stories? Sure. So one time you say yourselves and I'm trying to think of the one I can tell know, that's the one time I can't really tell that many stories.

They're having these in 93, I was shooting a movie called City Slickers two with Jack Palance and Billy Crystal, Culver City. And we look on the news and Malibu's on fire.

The whole thing. I'm watching the news. I see my house on the beach right from a Hallock on the news, from a helicopter from above. Anyway, I'm talking to, I think, David Spade. He goes, Yeah, Chris is at the beach. I said, Chris, where are you? Because America loves is his beach house is like a house. You. It's nice, but it's really cloudy. And spade goes, you idiot, get out of there.

Those aren't clouds. It's from the fire.

It's smoke. So I go. So he's there now.

Yeah. So I called up the beach house and I was stuck in Culver City. Then I said, Chris, and answer the phone or you're at the beach. I go, can you do me a favor. What can you like get some stuff for me? Because I thought my house is going to burn down because across the street it was right near Carbon Beach. The fire station was on fire. This fire station, that's not good. So I said, can you get my books?

And he goes, No, I'm only three things. Come on, you jerk. Get it. You know? And he was out in the ocean.

He thought it was cloudy. It was the smoke from the fire.

That's and I'm five doors down, a house burned down. I mean, it was all around this beach house.

Sounds like it was kind of a nightmare for, you know, it was a lot of fun.

Animals were murdered.

Well, just that one time, Brad never said he was sorry if I ran into you. Remember that time you make that. Yeah. Brad, let's say you're sorry. I've known Brad before. He was famous. His manager said, can you stay out of this client of mine? He's a big fan of yours. What's the name? Brad Pitt. All right.

No one had heard of him years ago, you understand? So I said and I go, OK, what's his name again? Brad. Oh, hey, Brad.

It's Jon Lovitz. So Jon. So fucking funny. That's Brad Pitt. I know.

Yeah. And then I ran into him three years later, I got Brad member and I was the big star.

And you are nobody.

And I was nice to you always, John. OK, don't forget.

Do meet a very nice guy. He is great west. He's a very nice guy. Can you do more Brad Pitt impersonations, though? Because that was amazing.

Let's see what you mean. It's like a like lamb chop.

Hey, yeah, I love it. So fucking funny when you do impersonations that I know.

Do you ever need an acting class? Do you do a thing or like Dana Carvey used to talk about how he would come up with his impersonations?

There's a whole theory about a bunch of crap. Dana makes that up. He just does it. Do you how do you make stuff up? He generalizes it like that, but that's not how he really does it. How does he really do it? I guess I should ask him. Like anyone.

He listens to the guy and you're you're listening for things they repeat and you're listening for the rhythm of it's musical.

It's like music. You're listening to the rhythm of how they talk. So when they imitate me, there's Danny imitating me. Oh, fine. They exaggerate it.

It's I know John that sounded just like you do it.

Now, this is Dana doing me. Oh, fine. I don't talk like that, Rob. I talk like this.

It's the most meta moment ever. It's John imitating Dana doing himself. I do layered impressions.

I did what is layered, impressionable young people imitating somebody imitating like instead of just going, I'll do an imitation of Rob. I go, this is my imitation of Rob Lowe. You imitating Dana Carvey. I love imitating me. Right. Give me give me your best layered in.

Hello, I'm Jon Lovitz. You're good now here's Dana imitating you, imitating me. Hello, I'm John Lovitz. It's too much. Too much. You're actually better. Thank you. At that impersonation of me than Dana.

But it's another layer. It's layers Hoosier. And here's my imitation of my dog imitating you. Right. Imitating my housekeeper.

Yes. He can't do it. I was lying.

I thought the face you were giving me just now was was the imitation that was my dog just looking like I have no idea what you're blinking about, but the dog's alive. Jerry Bruckheimer, the second I saw your picture of my dog is is a he's not like a I don't even like calling him a dog because.

Yeah, no kidding.

You named it after one of the biggest producers. Well, he's like a person, you know. I do. You play hockey like Jerry Bruckheimer. No, he was always very I'm a big dog person, I would have brought him, but I have other things I have to do today. Otherwise I normally I would bring him. He's with me.

That's a very good dog. He's very cute. And he sometimes he says stuff like I say, where's the dog? And he looks around and I go, where's the one time I said, Where's the dog? And he went and I go.

And I looked at somebody said, Did it just sound like he said, I don't know. And then he went, I don't know. And then he said it and I fell out. I go, Did you hear that? And he goes, Yes, another person heard it. He didn't talk all the time. I had the same. Except today. You know what he said today?

You say, are you really doing Rob's podcast?

I said, yes, I have a dog.

It's true. Dogs do talk. I had a dog when I'd come home from work and I'd say, how are you? How are you, little Davey going? I hate him. And tired.

Yeah, my dog said I said I'm doing Rob. I can't bring you Jerry. I'm doing Rob Lowe's podcasting and community sleep with Hi Ringle.

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Oh, why did I not lay down in the bed of roses and make sweet honeysuckle?

Who would that be? Honeysuckle love? I don't know. You're not saying anything.

So I have to fill the dead air time. That would be Madonna. In the day, oh, so you never you could have, but you didn't. Well. Circumstances prevented. It's in my book, John, it's in my book, read my book. Circumstances prevented it. Oh, you mean you couldn't get a boner, OK? No, that would be one of them. All right.

We're going to we're going to end this up with a couple of quick rapid fire questions for you. OK. Has there ever been a cartoon character you wanted to have sex with?

Oh, yes, Jessica Rabbit. Mm hmm. Right, Betty, rabbit hole. Mm hmm. Hot. Yeah, hot. Really hot.

You know who I liked? I liked the sophisticated Blondie, purple eyed cat and the Aristocats. And I was really little.

But I know what's the one.

Well, they may not be so easy to say cross species. Yeah, what's the one? I think it was a. What's not not The Dukes of Hazzard, but they did a thing where, oh, little Abner and the blind with the little crop top and the real jerks, those that little Abner little lap anyway.

Hurn, which would you rather see, John? A UFO, a ghost or Bigfoot? I think a ghost. I think Bigfoot would eat me. Because of all the pie. You probably smell it, and I did see a UFO once. No, see, I knew there was a reason this question would work.

Well, tell me about this, I'm what I saw. I'm obsessed with it. I used to go to camp and I'm from 14 to 17 up in Northern California near Mount Shasta.

And it's just an epicenter for this stuff. I mean, I'm told it is.

Oh, I don't really know. Well, anyway, so up there, the air was, you know, extremely it was your way from the city. So there's no light. So there's millions of stars.

So you look I look up, you see shooting stars. Anyway, I was 16.

I was looking up at the sky when I just looked in the stars and it looked like two stars, but they weren't but two lights chasing each other all across the sky and really fast and like, going like going to figure it all over.

And so in my mind, I got well, is this something on my retina?

Is this fireflies?

Now I'm seeing this and I watched it, and then all of a sudden the two of them went one following another went to my left below the horizon. Right.

But crazy fast, so fast that I thought, OK, if they're going that fast and I'm really seeing this, they're going to pop up on the other side of the horizon, the opposite side. Right. So I turned to the other side and I waited. And sure enough, like seven seconds later, they both came up, so circled the earth.

Yeah, it circled and I saw it, you know, but let's look like two light, two stars chasing each other.

Did you think you were crazy? But we know you're crazy, but did you think you're crazy? No.

But I knew nobody would believe me, but I saw what I saw tonight. I mean, you know, Mt..

Shasta, what's your explanation?

Rob, I have none. I've done I want to see UFO badly, Jon Lovitz, you, sir, are a genius. This is one of our first podcast we've done.

And I was told it was the first is not the first. It is that we may not air, it is the first it is the first one I've done. This is the first one I've done. How can you not air the first ratings?

We need a bigger name.

Well, we're well, no one's going to listen to the first one. If it sucks, you got to make the first one the best, funniest one.

And on that note, we say goodbye to the wonderful, the incomparable, the amazing Johnny Q. Lovett.

Thank you, Rob. Thanks for having me on your podcast. Thank you, sir.

Jon Lovitz.

I mean, come on now. Now, you know what we've all been dealing with in show business with Jon Lovitz?

I mean, there's no there's there's no one like that guy.

And and what I'm left with is when I spend time with Jon is he is a true original.

There is nobody who thinks like that. There's nobody who talks like that. He has been one hundred percent true to himself and his world view of what he thinks is funny and how to be funny. And that authenticity is, is what makes a star and what makes someone have a long lasting, impactful career.

You could you could see a version of it where people like, wait, what?

And it just goes to show you, you know, you don't have to fit in any box. You really don't. If you've got something to offer. And even if it's weird, there's a place for you. And Johnny is one of my favorite people because of that. Well, this has literally been my pleasure. And hopefully I'll see you next week. You have been listening to literally with Rob Lowe, produced by Daventry Bryant and Delina Termine, engineered by me Deviltry Bryant executive produced by Rob Lowe for low profile Adam Sachs and Jeff Ross at Team Coco and Collin Anderson and Chris Banin at STITCHERY.

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