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When was it the last time I did a pay per view? Was it Houston?

Maybe? I mean, obviously we did 286, but that wasn't when Joe was there. But either way, it's just going to be great to have you, brother.

I'm looking forward to it, John. I really am. I posted the other day working with the goats and I mean that. I mean, when it comes to play by play, you're the man. Joe Rogan, of course, he kind of invented the role of mixed martial arts commentary, so it's always a pleasure, man. And that fight card, top to bottom is phenomenal. The research is a lot easier, let me tell you that.

No, that's the truth. Right? When I look at this main card, it's like five main events. So yeah, it's definitely a different navigation when it comes to the preparation. Dude, I remember like 2012, 2013 chasing some of these prelim fighters and I didn't know how I was going to handle a walkout because there was just not a lot of information out there. But there's been an evolution in terms of our whole preparation process, as you well know, with the fighter meetings and the bios and everything else, which again.

Is down to you. Let's have it right. Let's give the credit where credit's due. You brought in the fighter meeting so we get to sit down with the guys one by one. Anyway, John, I'm not american. I'm not an american football fan, but I did sat down, sit down even and watch the Super bowl last night. I guess I would be remiss if we didn't touch on the Super Bowl a little bit. You're not going to get any analysis from me. I did want San Francisco 49 ers to win simply because I'm sick of this Taylor Swift nonsense, right? And that was it. And of course San Francisco is in California, so I guess I'm an imported. I'm like, yeah, Kansas City chiefs and Taylor Swift. Yeah.

Well, it's interesting with all the Taylor Swift haters and I know we're going to talk about the game and not Taylor Swift necessarily, right? But my daughters used to be bigger swifties than they are right now. But certainly my eldest daughter was interested in the result of this game because of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. But let us be clear, Travis Kelsey was pursuant of a relationship with Taylor Swift. It wasn't like the roles were reversed. So, yeah, man, I find a little bit off putting that they're taking every chance directorially to show her on camera, but this was largely Travis Kelsey's doing. So if there's anybody to blame, I think it's number 87 in the red, yellow and white.

Hey, listen, I'm only kidding. Fair play. I've got nothing against Taylor Swift at all. It's just that she impermeates, or permeates, should I say, every aspect of my life these days. I put the news on in the morning. There she is. You put football on. There she is. My daughter was the biggest swiftie as well. Rebecca and Nellie, they went off to see one of her concerts. She's amazing. She's incredibly talented. But just, I think guys, and I'm not even a football know, they probably want to watch the football and not watch the love story. Anyway. One thing that people are in uproar about, John, in fact, I just saw a headline. This is insane. Where is it? Here, let me just find the headline. MMA fans fume as Dana White fails to announce the UFC 300 during the Super bowl. I'm like, what are you talking about?

Yeah, there were some fighters, I think Michael Kiesa pushed out some sort of tweet that was suggestive that we were going to get some sort of breaking news. I think the UFC is fiscally responsible enough to not spend $7 million on a Super bowl commercial to announce the main event for UFC 300. I still think they're working on it. There have been some rumblings out there today as to what it might be, and it seems like Leon Edwards might factor prominently in this equation. I had heard Leon Edwards was going to defend his title in June, but maybe they moved that up to UFC 300. But I got to think, Michael, by the time we crack a mic in Anaheim, we will have that answer, or even maybe break the news on the broadcast. But I find it exceedingly hard to believe that we're going to get through UFC 298. Unless they're waiting for some Volkanovsky results or something. I think we're not going to get to that fight card. I think by Saturday night we'll have a UFC 300 main event.

Yeah, Dana came out and I think he was very honest, wasn't he? Speaking to the media, saying there's been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. He said, you could make a documentary trying make this main event and things like that. Yeah. Number one, regarding the Super bowl, they don't need to spend $7 million advertising it. The whole world that's an MMA fan. And even non MMA fans are all very curious. Of course, supposed to be Chandler and McGregor. God knows when that's going to happen. Poor old Michael Chandler. Poor Michael Chandler. I feel for the guy. I feel for Bala Mohammed, because the rumors that I'm seeing online, when you look it up, UFC 300, it's saying right now, Leon versus Hamza, now, that's just a rumor that's coming from Helwani, right? Take that all with multiple pinches of salt. But if for 1 second, that was poor old Bilal.

Once again, well, here's the thing, right? And certainly, I have to suggest that Bilal Muhammad is like family to me, right? He does a podcast with my twin brother. But the one thing that I have said, even though in a meritocracy, Bilal Muhammad is hard to deny, the only guy, and it's not Shabkat Raqmanov, the only guy who maybe would have a case for a welterweight title shot is Kamzat Chimayev. But we thought he left the weight class. So that one, I think in a meritocracy, I would have an easier time with than Shabkat Rahmanov sort of jumping the line and superseding Bilal Mohammed. But, yeah, man, they need a main event. And I certainly would feel for Bilal if he has to sit out any longer. Certainly, he has put together a winning streak that should afford him a championship opportunity. But there's a lot of masters that they're serving. I don't have to tell you that. Right. There's a lot of different television networks and pay per view partners and everything else, and they want to put the biggest fight on possible. And with respect to Leon and Bilal, I don't think fans would be super thrilled if that was your main event for UFC 300.

And when it comes to hamstring, the reality is this man is the star, right? Regardless of what you think about him and his worthiness to fight for a shot at middleweight, I think at welterweight, he certainly deserves it. I think on performances alone, when you look at the resume, you look at the undefeated record, and then you look at the numbers that this guy brings. I mean, if I do a YouTube video, I've just got to mention the word hamzat chimney. The views go through the roof, do you know what I mean? I'm probably very popular over in Chechnya or somewhere, know, listen, he's like a Bond villain. He fights his goddamn ass off, and he would be phenomenal. But we're probably talking and barking up completely the wrong tree. I don't expect you to give up any inside knowledge, because I haven't got any, that's for damn sure.

No, I have none. There have been some rumors circulating, and perhaps this speaks to the documentary that they could do for UFC 300. And again, I don't know where these rumors have surfaced from, so I apologize. But maybe that they would develop a 165 pound weight class, and Leon Edwards would be the champion at 175 pounds, and heretofore, the welterweight division would be 175. And I think, big picture, that makes a lot of sense, right? Lorenzo Fertita always wanted championship doubleheaders, and I think putting another men's weight class between 55 and 70 makes sense also, that would mean Hamzat Shimayev, in theory, would have an easier time making 75 than 70. But, bro, I can understand why Chimayev moves the needle. Like when Dana white gets hyperbolic. When talking about Hamzat Chimayev, I would turn it back to you. I've seen very few athletes this captivating when it comes to the total package in Octagon. Out of Octagon, there's an undeniable presence. When he opens his mouth, he doesn't even have to say too much. And then even the way he handled his post fight interview after his last fight against Kamara Usman, I thought was just really thoughtful, bordering on brilliant.

I can understand why he checks a lot of boxes and moves all the needles you would want him to move. So with respect to Bilal and everybody else, if Shimaev is the guy, we could sell that fight, and I can certainly promote it as a play by play guy.

Oh, 100%. And I don't think anybody would have an issue. All right, Bilal. Bilal. Diehard fans, Bilal's parents, you know what I mean? Outside of that, everyone's like, yes, brother, give me Hamza Jimiev. Fantastic. Fantastic. What's going on in your world, John? Outside of being the greatest play by play commentator the world has ever seen? How's life in the John Annex household?

Well, it's been nice to have a few weeks off. I'm actually coming to you from my relatively new home studio, which is great. I have three cameras in here. It's actually in a nook in my master bedroom, which is a little bit less than ideal. I mean, I got all these sounders, like, so I got all sorts of bells and whistles, which is. Yeah, I got some sound bites. And when Jorge Mosfed all knocked out Ben Askren, that's my favorite askren stiff as a boar. But no, I mean, the Super bowl was great last night. One thing that I think relates to MMA, if I could. So one team seemed to know the new overtime rules last night, and that was the victorious Kansas City Chiefs. And there are a lot of us NFL fans that didn't know the extent to which the overtime rules changed once the playoffs start. And that is to say that both teams get a possession. And not to bore you with that, but I will say, as an commentator, bro, like, sometimes when we're calling fights, I forget the grounded opponent rule. And I know fighters playing the game and putting their hand down.

I'm just saying, like, we all, as commentators and as people in the NFL or the UFC, we try to be as knowledgeable as humanly possible. But, bro, I keep the rules printed in my backpack, and I know we're going to affect change as far as that grounded opponent rule is concerned in MMA. But I don't know, man, it just had me thinking about that rule last night when the entire San Francisco 49 ers team doesn't even know the NFL overtime rules in the playoffs.

So what is the overtime rule? Because I know they went to an extra period, which is 15 minutes. I'm going to be honest, at that point, I took my dog for a walk, right? I did. I was like, okay, I'm over this now. It's a long ass game. I tweeted at one point, this game has been on for 20 minutes. I've seen three minutes of actual football and 18 minutes of ads. Okay? So I sat through the whole thing, the halftime show. It was a spectacle. It was a great show. It was very camp. I did actually take a nap, and I woke up and I felt like I was in 2007, you know what I mean? I did. And then by the time we got to the end of it, I was like, for crying out loud, it's a tie. Now they're going to go to an extra period. And my wife was barking like a dog that we go walk the dog because she's all about the steps, you know what I mean? She's obsessed. Looking at her phone, she's like, we haven't had enough steps today, Michael. We need to go for a walk.

And it's going to get late and it's getting dark. And I'm like, okay. And as we were walking the dog, we heard rare from all the houses. And I'm like, oh, it must have been the 49 ers because we're in California, right? But it wasn't. Anyway, roundabout story. What is the rule?

So during the regular season, if a game goes to overtime, they toss a coin, and 100% of the time, whoever wins the coin toss takes the ball. Because if you score a touchdown and not a field goal to begin the overtime during the regular season, the game is over. That rule used to apply to the playoffs, but now in the postseason, both teams get at least one possession, so a touchdown can't win the game. And it seemed like a lot of the 49 ers players were not aware of that, which is largely inexcusable. I mean, the great head coaches, Andy Reed, of course, Kansas City Chiefs head coach Bill Belichick, they would have exhaustedly gone over this rule. The Chiefs went over it before every single playoff game. So I was wide eyed here and after the game that the San Francisco 49 ers players were not aware of that rule. And Kyle Shanahan, their head coach, took the ball first. I don't know that that was the right decision. He's kind of getting raked over the coals for that. But I just find it interesting because we're judged for every utterance over 8 hours on a live telecast, and that's fine, right?

I mean, it's up to us not to perjure ourselves, but I'm just saying, not that I'm asking for forgiveness, but, dude, when it comes to some of the rules in mma, I try to wrap my head around them as best I can, but sometimes I forget when.

I'm on live tv and harrington, jump on here, because you're a big football fan, so maybe you've got a comment for John, and if you don't, and it's not intelligent, just don't bother coming on. But do come on. What would you say is a harder game to understand the rules and convey to the listener or the viewer? Football or mixed martial arts?

It's a great question. I would say american football, there are just a lot of intricacies to the game, and even my almost 13 year old daughter, who spent much of last night trying to learn the game of football, there was a third down situation in the fourth quarter, and she was like, wait, I forget, do they get another first down here? And so there's just a lot of intricacies to football. I think mixed martial arts for a guy like me, as not a martial artist, is going to be a constant learning curve for me. Right? Like, you can be sure when it's fucking anacondas and bravos I'm laying out and letting the people to my right talk about what those submissions are, because even though I can maybe know the difference between a dars and an anaconda, I'm not looking to do that on live tv, and Dana White's not looking to hear me talk about that stuff. But I don't know, I feel like american football is really hard to understand.

Yeah, John, I'll tell you, I had the same thing with my 30 year old wife yesterday, trying to explain the rules of football to her. It's not very easy, but she watches fighting with me every Saturday and she knows if that guy gets knocked down and stays there, that's a win.

Well, that's pretty easy, isn't it? That's universal. You know, when somebody gets knocked to the canvas, it's done. It's done. Wasn't the best question, Harrington. In fact, there wasn't even a question that was actually a brag, if you don't mind me asking. My wife's almost 44 years old, right? I'm assuming your wife's somewhere similar, around your age. Hamilton just said my 30 year old wife, which was not relevant information. Just have to get it in there that you're with a 30 year old. What are you trying to do? Are you trying to say that we're with old women, Hamilton?

No, I'm saying that his 13 year old daughter has about the same mental capacity for football as my adult wife.

Yeah.

No, my wife's in her mid 40s, so maybe it's time to find a 30 year old girlfriend out there at some point in time. But, yeah, it's a hard game to understand. And with the punting game and the kicking game and the changes of possession and the kick goes through the end zone and the ball comes out to the 25 yard line, eventually, my daughter, growing up in a football family, will be able to wrap her head around it. But it's far easier for me to watch a fight with my daughters because even if they don't know exactly what's going on on the ground, they at least have an opinion as to whether they prefer that or the stand up. I just feel like a fight, as simplistic as this may sound, a fight is a fight, and I think, more ingestible for kids than american football.

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What's that?

Recently, this is a pretty good segue. The video of John Jones heckling a comedian whilst absolutely hammered. Did you see this?

No.

Are you serious? Now, I know what I'm doing.

After we.

Well, no need. We can play it right now. And listen, by the way, I just want to say this fair play to John Jones, right? I like a drink. Okay? So there's zero judgment. I'm not saying anything bad about John Jones. Just hold it one. Like, we all go out, you're allowed to enjoy ourselves. John Jones is known. He's got a bit of a reputation. Okay, he's out. He hasn't got a fight coming up. All good. He's just in the unfortunate position that he's Johnny Bones Jones and someone's filming him. It certainly appears. But then Harrington just said, hold on, John Jones is in Australia currently. Right, but take a listen to this, because this, I would put money on this being John Jones. And he wasn't being rude, he wasn't being asshole. He's just slurring his words. And he's hammered drunk, God bless him, rolls the tape.

So wait, you're an audience member, right?

You're a little drunk, I assume. I would say I want your heart. Shit. I want a good white joke. I want a white guy to give me the best. I want my friends to give me. Give it to him for a good bug joke. I was saying, guys, give it to him for a good bug joke. Give it to. Yes. Anybody. Give it to me. We don't need to listen to the whole thing. And it's just kind of like that. It's just him trying to be nice, trying to be a little bit funny. Nothing wrong with it. There's no crime there whatsoever. It's just when you're out and about in public, you got to make sure people aren't filming you. I would say that was John Jones. Would you?

Yeah. I mean, his cadence, Michael, is largely undeniable. That sounded like John Jones ten out of ten times, for sure.

Yeah. Well, I hope the head's feeling good today. John Jones was in the news, though, regarding UFC 300. He came out recently and said that the UFC approached him and he wasn't ready. In fact, Brian O'Harrington, do you have the exact quote? I'm sure you probably know this, John, just for the believers. And again, thanks for your time, John. Really, really appreciate it. Anthony Smith has got Kansas City blues.

It's my absolute pleasure to be on with one of my all time favorite fighters. Commentating part. No, that's the truth, man. I mean, there's only one fighter who I have ever asked to take a picture doing a stare down with, and that fighter is Michael Bisping. You're actually immortalized in my studio right up there. But what was interesting, I think, for a lot of people, and I'm certain we're going to get to the quote here, but John Jones was seen tackling somebody in Australia, and he looked pretty darn healthy. So hopefully, he's maybe closer to a return than initially thought.

Yeah, I did see that playing rugby or something like that. And I guess doing that for a split second, even though it looks good and it looks like he's healed, that could still be a far cry away from going through an intensive eight week training camp. But have you got any idea when you think they will schedule that? John Jones and Stipe? It's going to be what, September? Something like that, maybe?

I would think so. Stipe miecic. It's crazy, right? To think about this four year layoff that the last time he competed in the octagon, I think it was at the UFC apex. Maybe it wasn't, but he was 38, and now he's going to be 42 years of age. So hopefully for his sake, right, it happens sooner rather than later. You wonder how steepe has navigated his training over the last 18 months or so. There have been times where you have seen steepe on Instagram really committed to the strength and conditioning, and then maybe he peels back or closes that curtain to the fans for a little bit. But I think for John Jones, the meat of his comments was really that to me, it sounds like he has two fights left and the next one is going to be stipe. And he wants to have an optimal eight week training camp in advance of the steepe fight. And no matter what, steepe is right, steepe is a massive underdog against John Jones, even a bigger underdog than I would think. But history is not going to care that steepe was 42 when John Jones beat him.

And that's why that fight just has tremendous value to somebody like John Jones. But I do hope that we see Jones and Tom Aspinal at some point.

And the thing is, well, first of all, he did say that he would fight Tom aspinal next, I believe, or he alluded to it. I don't know. I think he actually said that he did. Harrington.

So I have the quote. He said, I'm really going to base, whether I continue on, how I compete against Stipe, how I heal up from this injury. I could blow stipe out of the water or it could be an absolute war. And I feel like I need to take it one step at a time before seeing what I do next. But the Tom fight is definitely not off the table, especially with how I've been feeling out here. I just totally feel reinvigorated and just re energized just being around all these fans. So I can't walk away.

Yeah, I mean, listen, fair enough. I mean, listen, the man is the greatest of all time, generally the general consensus, and you don't get to that kind of standing without taking your business very seriously. I mean, what was that fight? He refused to take on Chelsea Sonnen, even though he would have beaten Chelsea. But he's professional and meticulous about his career and there's a reason why he is undefeated apart from the disqualification, because this is how he does it. And he does have so much to lose in terms of just legacy and historic, how he's going to go down in history. He's going to go down as one of the most legendary fighters that ever competed. You don't get to be like that unless you were of that mindset. If you wore that kind of, as I say, meticulous once again. Yeah. I don't know. It could be a while. Could be a while. But he's got to fight Tom Aspinall.

I find it exceedingly hard to believe that they will ever lock the octagon door behind John Jones and Tom Aspinall. Right. If I could get a bet out as to whether or not that fight would ever happen, I just don't think it's going to happen. And it speaks to your point about legacy. If he beats Stipe Miyachic, that Tom Aspinall fight, I mean, you and I could sit here and talk all day about just how risky a proposition that is. John Jones is prohibitively favored against Stipe Miyachic. He'd be a slight favorite against Tom Aspinall. Right. But that line's going to be a whole lot closer. But the UFC, you can't strip the greatest of all time. So they knew they were going to enter into a situation where the waters were going to be muddy and that either Tom Aspinal or Sergey Pavlovich maybe was going to have to make a defense of the interim heavyweight championship. And that is an inconvenient truth. I think Hennon Burrau maybe had an interim title defense back in the day. There's nothing ideal about it, but Tom Aspinall's got a gold belt at home and I just hope they don't shelve him for too long financially, maybe make it worth his while, because he is an elite heavyweight.

I don't have to tell you, he's smack dab in the middle of his career, getting closer to his fighting prime. And I would just hate to see Aspinal shelve for ten or twelve months. He already lost a year due to injury.

Yeah, well, listen, not that I'm trying to rip on Jones, but one thing about Jones is, as I said, and as we saw in that video, he likes to enjoy himself a little bit and he likes to indulge, and he had, what was it? A three year layoff, something like that, in between coming up to heavyweight. And he doesn't look like he's chiseled out of stone at heavyweight. I'm not trying to talk. It's not a bodybuilding contest. He blew through Cyril Garn. On the flip side, though, Tom Aspinall is a guy and I'm not kissing his ass. And that's what everybody says. It's just the facts. I text him this morning, trying to get him on the podcast. He's like, mate, I'm training. He's training all the time. He's training like a man possessed. He's moving heavyweights, he's sparring the biggest guys. He is completely obsessed about being the best ever. And yes, Jones is the best ever. But things do change and I don't know. You're right. I don't know if Jones would take that fight. It probably isn't smart. But I think for him to still hold on and maintain that legacy and that title, he has to fight him.

Otherwise he will forever be known as the guy that ducked Tom Aspinall, especially when he's got an interim belt, for crying out loud.

I couldn't agree with you more. And I have often said about Conor McGregor, yes, he has plenty of money, but do you really think he's going to optimally enjoy his retirement if he doesn't chase a few more mma scalps? Right. Conor McGregor has one win in the UFC in his prime weight class, 155 pounds. Right. So there definitely is still an upside to the Tom Aspinall fight for John Jones. I just kind of feel like if he does run through steepe, then that'll probably be the high note upon which he wants to go out. But in terms of John Jones's preparation, right, he even sort of, in a veiled way, knocked his own preparation against Cyril Gan. Even though he got the desired result very quickly. He talked about how he was going to take the prep to the next level. He was softer than a lot of us expected him to look, at least esthetically, going into that fight. So I do think at this stage of, you know, it takes a lot of discipline to get through an eight week training camp. And I just don't know that he's going to take that Tom Aspinall fight.

But sometimes when you talk about Tom Aspinall, people think it's hyperbolic. Right? So take it from me, right, like everything you've said about his ability and his potential, most of your broadcast partners and contemporaries agree with it. We're just not british. So, Michael, I know sometimes people criticize you for how bullish you are on Tom Aspinal. Most of us agree with your every word.

Yeah, well, no, thank you, John. And a lot of that, I've said this multiple times, isn't based upon friendship, right? It's not at all. It's based upon the results. And it's based upon having long conversations with his father as well. And people's fathers are always your number one fan. They're always going to say this guy trains like nobody else and so on and so forth. I mean, look at Tyson Fury's dad. No, man alive. I had to get one in, guys. I apologize. He will die defending his son. But when you talk to his dad as well, you see how dedicated he is, et cetera, et cetera. We've talked about this a lot on this podcast, so we're going to move along, if you don't mind. UFC 298 this weekend, right? Got to talk about these fights. Alia Toporia, Alexander Volkanovsky. Taporia is incredible. Undefeated. 14 and twelve stoppages. Just seemingly gets better and better with every performance. He's got two countries behind him. He's got Georgia and Spain. He's got a lot of support. He loves a good turtleneck, right? But he's already changed the bio on his instagram to the featherweight champion of the world.

Okay. And Volkanovsky came out. I think it was vog that said it. It's going to be a very humbling experience for when he has to go back and change that personally. Amend that. What do you make of this whole situation, John? Just the confidence and the disregard for Alexander the great?

Well, I think it's more confidence than it is disregard. And knowing Ilya Toporia the way I do, I don't think he would have any issue changing his bio if he loses the fight. I feel as though it is an eventuality that either this weekend or in the future, Ilya Toporia will be the undisputed UFC featherweight champion. I believe he is that good. I can't tell you whether or not it's going to happen this weekend, but I love the confidence. I sat down with him in December when they did that seasonal press conference, and he has no problem looking into a lens and saying, I think it's a great time to fight Alexander Volkanovsky after he got knocked out by Islam. Akashev. Question whether or not he could make this quick turn. A lot of opponents wouldn't want to provide bulletin board material, even if they thought that on the inside, they wouldn't be suggestive of that publicly. And the other thing I'll say about Topuria, he's been working in silence, man. I asked him about his coaches and the unheralded nature of their profiles and he said, I win the belt eventually. My whole team's going to get their shine.

But he's showing a new and improved version, to your point, every time out. And I think for a lot of us, with respect to Max Holloway and everybody else, if we had to send one featherweight in there. To beat Alexander Volkanovsky to save a dog's life, we're sending in Ilya Toporia.

Well, it ain't going to be Max. Otherwise that dog's dead. You know what I mean? Because we've beaten that dog to death. Max has had his attempts. I love Max. I love Max. No shame. Nothing but respect for Max Holloway. But he wouldn't be the guy to say, you got a dog, John?

I do have a dog.

What kind of dog?

It's like 25% golden retriever, 75% poodle. It's like a golden doodle, I think they call them.

I've got a bloody. What have I got? A multi. We've got the doodles. What's the golden doodle's name?

So this golden doodle actually just went off to boot camp today for six. So that'll cost you, but it'll be worth it. So that when I come downstairs from doing the believe you me podcast, she's not on the top of the kitchen table on all fours. But her name is Maisie, because she was trained as Maisie, and I just felt like she knew her name, and I didn't want to change it. My kids liked it enough, but she's only, like, six months old. Boot camp began today, and hopefully this dog tightens her up, because otherwise she might be looking for a new home. No, I am a dog person. I absolutely love my dog. And honestly, going downstairs and having her not be here is a really weird thing. And I know you could speak to that as well as.

Maisie. So Maisie's been kidnapped by a bunch of dogs, and they're going to kill her. You're going to choose one person from the featherweight division to go in and save that dog. To your point, it wouldn't be Max Holloway to beat Volkanovsky. And I agree with you. That person probably right now, I mean, who else is there?

It would be mob. Other than mobstar Ivloyev, I can't think of anybody else. But Arnold Allen is another guy, man. I'm a huge.

Got a shot here. I think Maisie might just live to see another day.

Yeah, but no Arnold Allen, Mobsar Ivloyev. And the other thing, too, about toporia. Right? A lot of people don't like that. He says that he's not going to give a championship opportunity to Max Holloway or Brian Ortega or.

But.

But his issue is the inactivity of some of those guys. It doesn't apply to Max Holloway. Right. But he might see Brian Ortega as a much easier fight than mobsar Ivloyev. But you can be sure Ilya Toporia, if he becomes champion, is going to want to fight a guy who, on merit, deserves to be there. And Mobsar Ivloyev is undefeated. He was booked to fight Ilia Toporia in January of 2022. I wouldn't be surprised if that fight gets put back together. Maybe it'll be an immediate rematch if he beats Volk, but I don't know. I feel like fans really didn't like those comments. And you could be sure if the UFC tells him to fight Max Holloway in his first defense, he's going to do it.

Yeah, no, listen. I think all he's doing now is stirring. The party is getting headlines. He's talking shit, he's exuding confidence, and he's got an undefeated record. So that's what you do. You make headlines. You talk, you piss off everyone else in the division. Do you know what I mean? He's not here to make friends after all. Right. I want to go back to Maisie, though, if you don't mind. Please. I love dogs. So she's gone off on a six week boot camp training, I'm assuming? Yes.

So when we walk her on a leash, bro, I can't contain this dog. I mean, she's probably only 25, 30 pounds, but there's just a lot of things that we need to do to make it more enjoyable in our lives. But, no, she comes home on the weekends, so she goes Monday through Friday, and then she'll come home on the weekends. And then we try to affect change with her behaviors as far as translating what they've been doing to the home. But it's an investment, and I think it's a worthwhile one because I got little kids, and she thinks that my five year old son is a puppy and bites his face. Not maliciously, it's a nip. Right?

But the serious. Yeah. So this guy, you could just see him over my shoulder. That's Alfie. Me. Rest in peace. Okay. We did the same thing. Oh, God, Alfie, don't make me cry. But it's true, though. All jokes aside, they really pull on your heartstrings. Alfie was a gigantic german shepherd. So there was this company, off leash life. They took him for a few weeks, because if german shepherds, they just pull like crazy, and he's big and he's. Scares the out of everybody. So they wanted to train him up, and then by the end, they did a video. It was on Santa Monica Pier, and they're walking along and he's like, stop, come, wait. Do this. And just not getting distracted at all. So they did a phenomenal job. But they do use a shock collar, okay? Which obviously shocks them into doing as the bloody well told. And it did work. It worked for a long time. But then after a while, it's hard, because if you don't keep up that same kind of rigorous discipline, if the kids are getting them on the couch and giving them a stroke. So, off leash life did an incredible job, but Alfie passed away trying to shit his pants.

And if you need a good dog trainer, off leash life. There you go.

Well, I'm not trying to make you sad about Alfie, but I think for a lot of us MMA fans, just seeing you and that dog together and running together, and so when Alfie passed, it hit your fan base hard as well. But, dude, Maisie's, this part of this training is an electric. Some. Somebody suggested to me that depending on a dog's disposition, they have, like, a citronella spray. So maybe if they bark or they tighten the leash on you, it just, like, sprays some citronella in their face, and they don't particularly like that. Largely, I would be against the shock collar, but I completely deferred to the expertise of this trainer.

I said, you could shock the. Out of my dog. Yeah, they're dogs. At the end of the day, these are incredibly tough animals, and they don't really feel it. It's not like a massive electric shock, but it just sends it enough of a message to say, hey, listen, dickhead, stop doing that. Stop shitting on the rug. Right? I am sick. In fact. In fact, we actually said this last night because we watched a game. There's just Rebecca and I, we got invited to a Super bowl party, but it got canceled. So Lucas was upstairs. He's not interested. Me and Rebecca, we don't understand the game at all. Do you know what I mean? We watched the whole thing. And then when he went to extra time, we're like, come on, let's walk. Yeah, let's go. Right? Let's hear this. Now, we're pretending to enjoy this because we're trying to absorb american culture. You know what, to fit in. We want to have the conversations. And as we walked along, we stopped. And Harry, our little know, I don't know what he was eating, but he was taking a lot of. And Rebecca actually said at the time, she said, I'm quite happy spending my time picking up fecal matter as opposed to sitting at home watching that game.

I liked the game, but it did come on for a while. Anyway, Harrington, do you want to give us a non MMA story? Because we don't have John Anneck for too much longer? Again, John, thank you for your time. I do appreciate it. I know you're a busy man.

My man.

Are you there, Harrington?

Yeah, I am.

Sorry.

I was just looking up this story because I had to read it twice. No, I had to read this twice to believe it. So, a water slide, of all things, caught on fire in Sweden. It was during construction. Twelve people who were building the attraction are injured thanks to the blast, and it spread to other parts of the park that was set to open this summer. But who knows, following this tragic event.

I mean, that is a nice bit of sunshine and rainbows from.

Right?

Do you do this on the anecdote? Wow.

Oh, my gosh.

Shit. Wow. Oh, my God. I mean, that is just terrifying.

Excuse me, because that is insane. When you said caught on fire, that's like a massive explosion.

Wow. Because I love a water park. How do you feel about a water park job?

I feel great about water. Know, I am not a big roller coaster guy, incidentally. I'm not trying to go on top of a Ferris wheel either, and potentially stare death in the face when the thing stops, but, yeah, I like water parks, but actually. So I got offered a helicopter ride after UFC 298. Right. So to go directly from UFC 298 to then spend the night in Las Vegas, and I won't go in a helicopter. I would imagine you would have no problem going in a helicopter.

I have flown on the back of a Blackhawk helicopter, shooting a machine gun, flying over Afghanistan myself, BJ Penn, Uriah Faber, and Carlos Condit, and it was an unbelievable experience. We flew all over Afghanistan via helicopters. So you could have gone to Vegas there and then that night. I mean, what a life you are living, John, and you deserve it all. I mean, come on.

Well, hey, honestly, after Kobe Bryant passed away, there was nothing that would get me on a helicopter. He was my favorite non Boston athlete of all time. And I can honestly say, with all the close relatives and friends I have lost over the years, I have never felt as bad a physical sensation go through my body than when I got a text message that Kobe had passed away. It just ripped my heart out. So I got to meet know at a know.

So this is in no way disrespecting Kobe Bryant, but what movie is this? Statistically, you're more likely to get killed on the way to the airport. What movie?

I don't know what?

Movie. Movie.

But I know the line dumb and dumber. Oh, that's.

Yeah. The point saying is though, listen, of course that's tragic. And people, helicopters do crash. Planes sometimes crash.

Doors fall out.

Cars crash. Yeah. So you won't get in the helicopter?

I won't get in the helicopter. And yeah, maybe I'll change my tune at some point in time, but I had to respectfully decline that invitation. But you're right. I'm also know I'm also much softer than.

Whoa, you're not soft, John. You're not soft. But I feel like that's a bit of a. I don't see the logic. In fact, Brian, just look up the amount of people that travel via helicopter and the amount of people that die per year.

Right.

That's a hard very few.

Yeah. No, I mean, texting and driving, I think, is the most dangerous thing that a lot of people that you and I know do. And my daughters are on the cusp of. Well, my eldest daughter is like a couple of years away from getting her permit. And every time we're in the car, I'm throwing my cell phone in the glove compartment and saying, the best way to not look at your phone while you're driving is to put the thing in the glove box.

You're absolutely right, because I just got a new car recently, and it has the Audi apple car and CarPlay. Sorry, pardon me? Yeah, Audi CarPlay. And a lot of cars have it. So you just speak it and it's perfect. And then if you get a text message, it says, text from such and such and such and reads it out to you. Would you like to respond? And it is such a game changer. Unless there's someone in the car. Let's say you're sitting with your wife and it says, michael, do you want to go to the strip club? And you're like, oh, shit. Get it off. Get it off.

You got to be careful there.

No. All jokes aside, I would never frequent such a lousy establishment. You've got me thinking, though, I'm going to have to upgrade the kids cars for that alone. Because you're right. Because the texting and driving. Because when they got their licenses, I was. I was like, son, please, I know you think I'm a nagging old bastard, right? And dad's always getting on your case, but that is something that you really need to pay attention to. And they suck at driving. They suck at driving. When they first get it. When they first get the license, man, I'm terrified.

So when I hosted ESPN MMA live, and it was on ESPN UK back in the days when you hated me. I would close every show by saying, we'll see you next week, and until then, don't text and drive. Right? And part of the reason why I would say that is because I once went up onto a curb while I was texting, and thankfully, there were no pedestrians. But that experience effectively changed my life. And I think we get into a bad habit where I'll talk to my twin brother and he'll be like, hey, can you watch this social clip we created? I'm like, dude, I'm driving. He's like, well, when you get to a light. And that's the problem, right? You get to a light, you start watching something, then you start responding, and then you bleed it a little bit as you're driving. And all it takes is 1 second of looking down when you should look up and you can kill a person and change your life forever.

No, you're right. I don't want to be flipping to make a light hearted remark, because what you're saying is true. But it does come in handy, because if I ignore a text message, I always go, sorry, I was driving. So if you ever get that I was driving from me, then you know that you reminded me there, because having an argument is a surefire way to crash your car as well. Rebecca picked you up from work years ago when we lived back in Clithero. It was a dark winter's night. We're going down a windy road and we get to a dual carriageway. We call it. For us, it's a big deal. For you, we just call it an average street, and the cars are going down 70 miles an hour, and we're having a blazing row over nothing. You know the one, absolutely nothing. And we're arguing, whatever. And she was driving, she pulls out. And then all of a sudden, a motorcycle hit the front of the car going about 80 miles an hour. The rider, the guy driving it, his helmet smashes through the windscreen, and then he rolls down the street. Sorry.

Callum was a newborn baby in the back of the car, and it was that side. And we were like, oh, my God, it was bloody awful. And I was so mad. I was mad at the guy because he was going so fast. He was speeding. He was going fast. And I ran over to him, are you okay? Are you okay? And he was conscious. He's like, I think I've broken my leg. And I'm like, check on Callum. He's fine. Yeah. Anyway, so be careful. In the cars, guys. There's no moral to the story. I don't know where I'm going with this, but that just popped in my mind as you were talking.

By the way, Brian, populated 1.3 deaths per 100,000 flight hours. Right? So that backs up your point that a helicopter is actually pretty gosh darn safe. And I think you were also going to ask me, to what extent do we talk about things like this on the Anakin Florian podcast when we step out of the MMA realm.

Right, yeah, let me just finish that question, because here's what I was going to say, 100% because you and Kenny Florian, amazing podcast. And anyone watching this, if you haven't subscribed and ring the bell, please do so. You won't regret it. Just make sure you watch this one as well, you pricks. But on here, people do like it when we kind of go off on a tangent and we talk a bit of randomness and all the rest of it. Is that what you find with your show?

Yes, and increasingly we're starting to do some of that. Like, we're doing a segment later this week. Overrated. Underrated. Properly rated. Right? Paolo Costa, Kamzachi Mayev. Even though it's MMA stuff, it's still a different type of MMA conversation. Right? One thing that I can tell you, and I do an NFL podcast with my twin brother, who, by the way, cut all his hair off. But I. Yeah, he shaved it. Well, he didn't shave it. No, he just got a haircut. It kind of looks like yours, but he's not quite as handsome. But no, he cut off the ponytail.

But shout out to Jason Anick as well. What a guy.

Great guy. Big Michael Bisping fan, incidentally. But one thing that my audience largely doesn't give a about is when we talk about, like the Super bowl or the NFL. So that is something I'm particularly sensitive to. I did have a national radio host on today, and we talked a little bit about the Super bowl, but there's no way I'm booking that guy unless he handicaps the UFC and has some sort of MMA offering. But yeah, I do notice know, when Ray Longo comes on our show and we're talking about dogs and technical issues and things that are unrelated to MMA, people definitely respond to that content.

Fecal matter is always a good one to go to. Fecal matter being distributed on the newly purchased rugs in the Bisping house, it's a real problem. It's a real issue. Harry's going to have to go and we got two birds as well. They never stop chirping.

Oh, my kids want a bird, they want a turtle. I said, we have a dog, and that's just going to have to do. Thankfully, my dog is potty trained. When was the evolution where human beings started picking up fecal matter in bags? Like, was that happening 200 years ago, where the dog would take it on the grass and humans would go pick that up? Forgive my ignorance, I don't think they.

Would have had the plastic bag. But I will say this, it's definitely been an evolution with me, because when I was younger, I was a punk, and I was like, I pay too much taxis to pick up dogs, okay? I'm not doing that. And now I do. And anyone that doesn't, I'm like, excuse me, I've turned into that grumpy old bastard, you know what I mean? Standing at the end of the street, in fact, like Volkanovsky. Have you seen the video? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

So good.

Genius. Listen, John, we're probably going to let you go.

I got five more minutes. I just want to say one more thing, one content piece that our audience was particularly responsive to. So I am a soccer parent now, right? And I think you never know what type of sports parent you're going to be until you're thrust into that situation. And obviously, Callum competed at a very high level. Lucas is on a great trajectory. Your daughter, obviously, riding horses and everything else, right? But I am just now getting into the competitive soccer games with my kids, and I'm not a coach. I'll be a coach next season, so I can yell, right? Like, I want to have the opportunity to yell. So I'm going to coach next season. But I saw these two kids go off with my daughter's soccer ball the other day, and they didn't go too far, but I'm monitoring these two kids, and they're kicking her soccer ball around, and I can find myself getting a little bit more heated as they're getting further away. And finally the kid kicks the ball hard into the side of a building. And finally I lost it. I was like, my man. I was like, that's my daughter's talk about.

I don't want her to lose it. And I'm literally, I'm ready to fight 218 year old kids. And I said to my wife, am I that guy? I'm becoming that guy. I don't know that I've had this temper issue my whole life, but I do think increasingly, as I get older, I'm becoming less tolerant, and I have more anger management and temper issues. And I hope they don't rear their head at these soccer games anymore.

Yeah, but that's just natural, isn't it, John? When you see, I mean, is it two daughters.

Two daughters, yeah. And a little boy.

Yeah, two daughters. Two little girls. They're out there, they're playing football, and some little punk, some little punk bitch comes along, starts with them, with their enjoyment, stealing their ball, their property, ruining their day, messing with the zen, this perfect picture that you have painted, and they are stopping it. You are the defender. You are the father. You are the protector of the realm. Go yourself to that girl and leave that ball. You better go and bring that ball back, spit shine it at my feet, beg for forgiveness. There's nothing wrong with that, John Anneck.

Thank you at all. Thank you.

I thought you were going to say that you did a DC. You've heard the story, right?

Yeah, no, I didn't do.

Some kid get pushing the kid. So DC, did he go and push the kid? Hey, how do you like it or something, right? Yeah.

DC's not afraid. He's got that dog in him. I think I have like a turtle or a cat in here. I don't have that dog. Like Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. New York City, the first major city to force its citizens to pick up after their pets the year I was born, 1978. There you have it.

Wow. There you go. Evolution. They've always been progressive in New York City.

Yeah. And now they don't pick up the anymore because it's a dump.

Oh, my God, dude. I bet people said they were crazy at the time. What do you mean, I got to pick up the dog? But one thing that does get me, though, listen, you got to pick up the dog shit. But horses go along and just all over the place in the street. Granted, there's not that many horses, but there's a few trails around here and they just as they go. Rebecca says, because she's a horse lover. Well, it's just know. And I'm grass and water. I'm like, yeah, but still, you know what I mean? If I'm going to get a fine for leaving the dog, which I don't, leaving the fecal matter, get a shovel and come and pick up the horse shit. What's going on here, right?

Like ten pounds of horseshit. No, we have horses that go through near our development here, the gated community. Most of the communities in Florida are gated. And yeah, dude, there's horse, like all over the trail I run on and there's no obligation to pick it up.

The believe you me podcast, the only podcast that can get John the great mind of the brilliant commentator. They can break him down, break down the defenses, and have him subject to talking about dog and horseshoe.

That's right.

When it was established as a rule.

It's kind of my fault, right? I started this business talking about, if you had to send a featherweight in there to save a dog's life, are you sending in Ilya Toporia or mobsar yevloyev or somebody?

Right. All right. If Maisie's life depended on it, yeah. John Jones or Tom Aspinal.

I think my pause tells you all you need to know about the competitive nature of that fight. Right?

I'm putting you on the spot. You should put me on the spot. I'm just messing. I should.

But we might be calling that fight, so we probably can't get.

No, I know. It gets so tricky, doesn't it? And complicated. Because you can't give predictions. Because I always say this, it's just disrespectful to the guys in there. If the guys commentating the fight already have gone out there on whatever platform it is and said, I think this guy wins, well, then it's a real slap in the face to the other person. Maybe you can give opinions on whose skill sets might be better, but ultimately, we don't know.

But if my podcast had an audience that was even a fraction of yours, and I say this with total truth, right. I might have already been canceled or fired.

Right?

I mean, I tried to be truthful with my audience. Sometimes I'll break down that fourth wall, but I am a little bit confrontational in nature. Sometimes I say things without thinking. I walk right up to that line. I try not to cross it. But if I had an audience of your size, I would have to be even more judicious and mindful with my every utterance.

I try to be. Believe it or not, people probably don't think I do, but I do because, number one, I respect the sport and I respect what is public and what isn't public. And sometimes, because I often do, I go on this autopilot, and I'm just talking and things like that. And sometimes I've had Zach call me, like, what the. You should not have said that. You know what I mean? So I'm very cognizant of never doing that. They weren't anything bad. Like marching Tibora announced, sorry, Tom astronaut called out marching Tibora for July 23. And then I said, oh, Tom's, fighting, marching Tibora July 23 and he's like, yeah, but that wasn't an announcement and you just announced it. So just little things like that, little faux pause. But it does get hard when you're doing a podcast two, 3 hours a week, whatever it is and stuff like that. Yeah, but Ray, you just got to think before you speak. It's really not that hard.

Pressure is a privilege, right? Pressure is a privilege.

Pressure is a privilege. John Anneck, it has been our privilege, my man. I'm not trying to get rid of. You can stay all day because I got to talk to Harrington. The moment you got, John, I'm going to see you Friday for the Wayne's.

I'll see at the fighter meetings potentially Thursday. Am I wrong?

Yeah, definitely Thursday for the fighter meetings. I look forward to it, man. Thanks for your time again, John. You're the man. Subscribe John Anik and Florian podcast. John, see you Thursday, budy. Take care, my man.

Always a pleasure.

Thank you. Stay off the helicopters.

You know I will.

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Let me tell you. And I know a lot of you don't want to hear about power slap. Well, tough, because I'm going to. Okay. It was a star studded event, right? They had Tom Brady, Travis Scott, Charles Barkley. Hey, Charles Barkley came over to me when I was commentating. I had to put my thing on mute, bless him. I'm going to brag because this was cool. He comes over and says, you're a legend. You're a goddamn legend. It is an absolute honor to meet you. And I'm like, oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I think you called Charles Barkley. I'm joking. Of course I know who he is. So that was cool. But it was just full because obviously Super bowl weekend, anyone and everyone was in there. It was full, it was packed, there was influencers galore. Influences. I hate using that term. But still, that's what they are. And Sean Strickland was there. Sean Strickland got into a verbal altercation with machine gun Kelly. Oh, here we are. Sean Strickland got into. Well, he threatened to punch some kid that says, can I get that chip on papi? Or something like that. Did you see that one?

I missed that one. No, I didn't.

So some little nerdy looking guy says, can I get a papi or something? And Sean just goes, if we were in any other setting, I would hit you right now. And then just walks away. Right? And then, of course, he was sparring Sneako, whoever the hell. Who is Sneako and why do I keep hearing his name?

You keep hearing his name because he does a lot of controversial things and he's the know, they. They need their name to be out there for people to click and watch.

Their working because I know who sneak. Well, I've heard the name Sneako now. And I've also seen him get kicked to shit. Give us some sound on this, please, Brian. My God. Sean Strickland batters him. Here are heavy shots, man. That's as hard as he can. Oris Griffin runs in multiple towels. Come in. Right. Sean Strickland is just teeing off on that guy. Now, of course, there's two sides to every coin, right? Sneak on knew and sneak on like, we're on first name terms. That's all I know of him.

He only has one name.

He's like, yeah, yeah, he's a dickhead. Sneako knew what he was getting himself involved in. Sean Strickland's got a habit of doing this. He's done it a lot at syndicate MMA in Vegas. There's been multiple people talk online. He brings them in, he beats them up. Hobbyists. He's done it time after time after time. And you could say, listen, at least Sean's honest to a fault. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and he doesn't mask who he is or what he's about. But he's sparring a dude there that's about 50 pounds lighter, that has no combat experience whatsoever, and he's essentially trying to murder the guy. Do you know what I mean? And that's his go to as well. Threatening to kill everybody as, you know, Harrington.

I do.

I do.

But it's like nobody had a gun on Sneko forcing him into that cage. You know what mean? Like, he knew that he was about to take a massive beating to get himself a few hundred thousand or a few million views. And if the juice is worth the squeeze to. You can't. You can't make Sean Strickland the bad guy there. You don't get mad at the scorpion for being a scorpion. That old proverb. So if you get into a cage with Sean Strickland and you get your ass kicked, I have absolutely no sympathy for you. None.

And there is the other side of the coin. And I agree. I do agree. However, he's not a scorpion. He has a brain. He has a mind. And you can also look and assess the talent and the threat level and. Yeah, okay, I get it. He wants to embarrass him. He wants to make a fool out of him and all the rest of it, right? And say, you don't belong in here. No man alive shall be challenging me at the performance institute. Right?

So Sean has a particular gripe with Sneako, because at some point in his history, he let his girlfriend bang a dude while he was sitting in a chair watching. So apparently that greatly offends Sean Strickland.

Well, yeah, I kind of get that is strange behavior. And that would go back to, what is it, a cook? Yeah, I do believe that is the absolute definition of a cook.

Yes.

A passing here. If you're a cook, allegedly. Right, then Sean Strickland will come for you, as Ian Gary knows. I'm not saying Ian Gary's a cook. I'm just putting the pieces of the puzzle together. Right. What's your take on that, Harrington? Not Sean Strickland having a thing with cooks. Just the whole thing.

Well, in general, like, just like Sneako was going in there to get views and get clicks and get people watching him. Sean Strickland similarly has a brand to protect. And his brand is, I don't mess with influencers. I don't like these people who are grifting on social media, essentially don't have a career, don't have a job. They make silly videos and they make millions of dollars. Sean Strickland has been very clear that that's the degradation of society. Right. That is a harbinger of the end. And he's had beef with these guys throughout. So if he's in a cage with one of these guys and he doesn't.

Do his best to beat the out.

Of him, then he looks like a liar and he's all talk. You know what I mean?

Yeah, but that's also. I'm not talking, I'm just looking at both sides of the coin because I've been in that situation many times. As you know. You were both there when Lewis came down to the Ruka trading center, right? Teeing off on a guy like sneak, like Sean did against Nico to the face with full power shots, you can break a guy's nose, you can break his jaw, you can detach a retina, you can knock him out, you can cause a concussion, right? You can do some real nasty damage, right? If you want to make a dick out the guy and you want to get the buz and you want to embarrass him and you want to make yourself feel big, like a big man or whatever, you could just give him a nice little body shot, a nice little body shot, right? Because a good body shot, boom. Suck the wind out of him, drop him to the floor like I did to, right? And you can all laugh about it. Do you know what saying? But you can all just have a laugh about it. Go on, Brian. Sorry.

I saw an earlier version of this, like a longer version of this video. Where before the fight even starts, he goes, I'm not hitting him in the.

Hey, hey. I'm not hating on it. I actually found it to be quite entertaining. Do you know what I mean? But we're a podcast, and we're just kicking the ball around on different eventualities and opinions on the situation. So he could have gone to the body. He chose to beat the hell out of him like that. I don't know. I mean, listen, he is who he is. And I do feel to a certain degree, he's trying to live up to that brand. Do you know what I'm saying? He has become not a caricature of himself, because as long as I've known Sean, he's always been the same way. But people have come to expect a certain type of behavior from Sean. So therefore you get trapped into the cycle of perpetuating that myth. Not that I'm saying it is necessarily a myth or a fake personality, because it's not. But you understand the point that I'm trying to make. Like, when he threatens to kill you, when he threatens to kill machine Gun Kelly, when he's trying to beat everyone up and threatens to stab Drikus duplexi when he sees him and all the rest of it.

Dana was asked about him at the post fight press conference, at the slap. The post slap conference. And he said, yeah, that's just Sean Strickland. Sean just can't be around people. Well, one person that didn't like it was the problem child, the savior to all the bullies on planet Earth.

No.

Jake Paul to the rescue. Jake Paul came out, called out Sean Strickland, said, I'll give you $1 million if you fly down to Puerto Rico. If you beat me, you get a million dollars if you lose. You got to get some betting company tattooed on you. I thought Sean Strickland's response was brilliant. He said yes initially, went back and forth a little bit. A lot of he said, she said, playground stuff. Then Sean was like, I'll tell you what. I've got a better idea. How about you meet me in the desert? No cameras. No, just me and you in the desert. Dick to Dick, nipple to nipple. Let's fight. Right? And I thought that was a good response, because I thought Jake Paul ain't going to respond to that. And if Jake Paul wants to spar and he really has an issue, he can swing by his gym any day of the week. Sean's always in the gym. He's always training. He's not hard to find. I think he might have said that to machine gun Kelly or somebody said, I'm not hard to find if you've got an issue. Yeah, I think it's going to take him up on that offer though.

No, probably not. It might have been though, Bryce hall, who's another influencer who's also been going back and forth in the dms with Strickland. He said that he posted Strickland's dms to him where Strickland said, I'm tired of the camera crews, I'm tired of.

Clicks and likes and all those.

If you want, bring a GoPro, but just you, you and me, come fight it out and we'll see. And then Bryce hall, quote, treated and said, let's do it. So who knows, man? Sean Strickland, influencer, assassin it.

Well, you've got to be careful though when you get to that level because I was the champ and I ended up getting sued and it cost me a lot of money and I did nowhere near as much as that. Now granted, you could say, well, you stepped into a ring and you put gloves. Know, this is what I was going to say before you could embarrass someone and make a fool out of them by just outskilling them. Sean is very skilled, he's a good striker. He could have just made mince me out of him, technically wise, picked him apart, embarrassed him, mocked him, talked to him as he was doing it, moving his egg on. What's your problem? Just pot shotting him away and all the rest of know. I will say this though, sneako might have a better chin than not shitting on easy. That's just a joke. Know, he's like, you stayed on your feet, you should be proud of yourself. Here's the thing, guys, you stayed on your feet. He dropped Izzy and it was those same kind of winging shots, in fact. No, it wasn't. It was a nice one two straight down the pipe.

But then it was the shots up against the fence. Sneako's got a. He's got a hell of a chin, man.

To be fair though, Israel Adesanya was also throwing shots back and was getting countered when he got hit. Sneako was just high, tight guard, pinned your hands to your face and try not to lose consciousness.

It was a very flippant, silly joke that got a laugh. Okay, Harrington, you're looking a little tired today. Is it just because you're growing the beard back? Is that what's going on?

Yeah, I think it's the beard, the hair, the bags under the eyes. It's age.

Why have you got the bags under the eyes? What's going on?

Not a lot of sleep this weekend. I was too buzing off. The Kansas City Chiefs getting a big win.

Oh, really? Really. Okay, good. Good. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. One story. I'll let you set this one up. Because Sunday morning, I let in bed, I had my coffee. Tv just drives me crazy, man. In the morning, I like to watch news, and I flick through multiple different news channels, because you can't believe any of them. They're all full of. So you get conflicting opinions and all the rest of it, it's just commercials. And I think maybe I might get kicked off YouTube for this. I have YouTube TV. I don't have DirecTV or any satellite anymore. The commercials are out of control, man. It's insane. So after a while, I was like, this. Can't do it. Let's put YouTube on actual YouTube, not YouTube tv, and just find something there. And I put on the UFC 298 countdown show. I'm commentating the event. Watch it. See some behind the scenes stuff. Very good. And then I saw this scene, actually, halfway through it, I needed the toilet, went to the bathroom. I'm dropping my guts. And I was like, did I hear that correctly? Right? And you know where I'm going with this?

Don't. Henry Cejudo. Well, Hamilton, the floor is yours. Yeah.

So, Henry Cejudo, you might remember his longtime coach, Eric.

Come on, Rebecca. Come here. Come here. Rebecca has been on the show for a bit. We need a bit of Rebecca Bispin. Come on. Say hi to Harrington.

Hi, Harrington.

Hi, Rebecca. How are you?

I'm doing well. How are you?

This is an awkward forced.

Oh, well, you forced it.

I was just bringing you your honey and lemon Harrington. I was saying, last night, we didn't get to see the final part of the Super bowl, did we? No, because she insisted that we went for a walk.

Oh, my God.

And you said you would rather. You said you would rather pick up fecal matter than watch any more of that gay.

I said that. I did say that. I was joking, but I did say that.

He's got the candle. There it is.

I'm sorry.

Believe that.

That's crazy.

Yeah, it's not for us. We tried, but I just found it kind of very boring.

At the house. I was at watching the game. I saw people leaving with three minutes left in the game, when the Chiefs were down three points and driving with the ball. And I'm like, why are you leaving a Super bowl part? The game finally got good. Why would you leave now? I just can't wrap my head around it.

Well, maybe like us, they just don't care either. I don't know. Is this normal? It was just so boring. There was no energy. Yes, Michael, you said it was boring, too. I don't know what he's been saying.

Best game I've ever seen in my goddamn life, he said.

You agreed with me. It was very lackluster. There was no energy. Even from the teams, from the crowd, from even, what do you call them? Commentators? Announcers?

Yes. Was what your husband does.

Yeah, I know, but I didn't know if you called it a commentator when.

It'S a play by play broadcaster. Harrington, let me ask you a question, and I've got something for you to bring up in a minute. What is the average score in a game of football? Because there wasn't many touchdowns and scoring of points there.

At this point, I would say it's probably somewhere between like 45 and 48 points.

That was a game then.

But here's the thing.

That means it was a tight game.

It means there was no action. No, that's what I mean. Like, normally they score more points.

They do.

And they only scored, what, 20 OD?

No, they ended up scoring. It was a pretty decent amount. It was 25. 22 was the final score. So they got to 47 points. It's just a lot of the scoring happened. Yeah, a lot of the scoring happened.

In the most common amount of points, according to Brian. And you feel free to jump on Brian and say the scored in an NFL game is 20 to 17. Hold on. For anyone that's international and the people in Zimbabwe and wherever you are listening to, because Uganda, we've got a big following in Uganda. Right about. No. How many points for a touchdown?

Six. And then an extra point is generally.

Three for a conversion. Do you call it a conversion? You call it a field goal.

Field goal.

See, this is the thing.

What is the thing? You see the smugness of the way she said that.

No, there's nothing smug about this. Careful. I know nothing about the game. So it is really hard to kind of get involved and just know what's going on because it's really complicated. It is so hard to follow. And if you know nothing. And literally, it was just sat Michael and I, both of us, clueless. You're just as clueless as me. Don't even start. He's got no idea. I'm like, why are they stopping? All of the, like, every time it gets going, they stop.

They stop for commercials, Rebecca?

No, but they kind of.

And the commercials were lame.

I mean, the Super bowl is brought to you by Pfizer for.

Right. Yeah.

We knew when the game had finished, though, because when we went on our walk, because we live in a very quiet neighborhood, all of a sudden, the streets were packed. There was actually traffic because everybody leaving the Super bowl parties. And we're like, oh, well, we guess the game must have finished now, right?

Yeah, we heard a few, like, woohoo's and stuff. We're like, oh, it must have finished. Someone scored.

Rebecca, I was just saying that Sunday morning, we were in bed watching the tv, and you witnessed Henry Cejudo firing his did to the world. I did.

And I wondered, why would he do was. And I didn't know if it was like a rehearsed thing, if they've made him do that. Like, if he did it behind the scenes, and they're like, oh, can you just reenact that? And he agreed to that because I'm like, who would do that?

Let's just play the video a second here. Well done, Brian. All the mistakes that I made. Okay. I didn't want to talk to you and, like, the whole team, man, when you were with me for my last Olympic trials, you've been there for me. But as of right now, I just want to let you know, man, that for this camp, dude, I'm getting rid of specific coaches, man. But you included, dude. Sometimes you're too close to somebody and people just get too comfortable. The goal has always been the same for you to be the greatest combat athlete of all time, and to me.

That was a dream come true.

This is why this man is the go coach, the most unselfish human that you will ever be. Captain Eric Albert. So I've got to choose my words carefully because I'm commentating the fight at the weekend. What is your opinion as a woman, as a fan of the sport, as a human being, what was your general opinion when you saw that?

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I can't believe I didn't say anything to you.

I was on the toilet, weren't I? Yeah.

I don't know what you were doing.

You weren't there, and I was dropping my guts.

Yeah, but it was just really confusing. And then on the other hand, he's got his brother as his coach, so he's like, oh, no, you're too close. This is all business. But then his brother is coaching him. I was just a little bit taken aback, a little bit confused, a little bit shocked.

Thought it was a bit of a shell shock.

I was shocked. I just thought it was not a very classy move.

Oh, Henry, I never said.

Oh, I'm allowed to say that, right? Bye, guys.

Thank you, darling, for the honeywater, lemon and salt. It's my new power drink. These don't. We're going to get back to the cejudo, by the way, you don't need energy drinks, you don't need coffee. This does the trick. Honey, lemon, hot water, and a good old sprinkle of salt. Flying electrolytes.

You're golden.

Electrolytes. Oh, God. Anyway, so, yeah, back to Cejudo. So, Eric Albarisin, however you pronounce the name. My apologies. I've met him, obviously, around the game, and he's a really nice guy, and he is, like, obviously an old friend and a colleague, if you will, in terms of training partners. I don't know if he manages him as well. I'm not sure about that. But he's always with Henry. He's always been like his road dog and his coach, his confidant, his friend. And I don't know too much about the personal relationship, but I know when I've sat down a couple of times with Eric and we've had conversations, he's like the most loyal friend ever. So I still have a hard time believing that there isn't some angle of a bit there, because the way that he told him wasn't like, I mean, listen, if you got some bad news, sometimes the easiest way to deliver it is just to come out with it. Ripping off the band aid. I'm changing up my whole fight camp, dude, and then they got to go, and you're one of them, dude. And then he goes and gives you this nice speech.

I don't know, maybe that's just like, because he was a little uncomfortable in the moment, but I don't know how I feel about him doing it on camera, if it was legit.

I mean, the only thing I was thinking while I was watching that was like, he's trying to give a little bit of shine to Eric. I just don't know how much coaches get talked about on something like a countdown show or necessarily an embedded. So giving that spotlight to be like, this was the guy who took me from the Olympic trials to a two weight division UFC champion, eric Albin, you know what mean?

Brian, Brian, Brian, listen. And I like it. I like the opposite or the difference of opinions. So Hamilton's logic, Brian, is that what he wanted to do? Is that the coaches don't get the spotlight. So to ensure he gets the spotlight, he's going to fire him on the show and say, we don't need you anymore, bro. Honestly, thanks for everything, but I don't need you going forward because you're pale, stale and male. Okay? Right. I'm not sure if that was the get go. What's your opinion, Brian?

Henry really puzzles me a lot with some of his decisions, and this is one of them.

I can't explain half the.

He does.

I can't either, to be honest. I like Henry, though. I like him. He's cool. He's a really cool guy, as is Eric. I mean, look, listen, we don't know the full picture. All we know is what they showed on there. Let's be honest. He might have told him beforehand. Hey, listen, I'm going to, who knows, maybe there could be a million things. One thing for damn sure, I'm interviewing him on Wednesday at the fighter hotel. The interview will be on this channel at some point on Wednesday, maybe Thursday morning, but he'll be on it. So I'm going to ask him about this.

I was going to say, can promise. That's our first question out the gates. What the hell happened there?

First question out the gates. There it is. Not about Marab de Valasville. No. It will be, though, because I am very curious about that. Him versus Marab, that's a really tough fight and it's a close fight. So I would have thought in those kind of situations, you want the people that you know, people that you trust. Certainly, given Henry's phase of his career is towards the know. He's been very open and, well, he retired already, came back, lost to Al Jermain Sterling.

For somebody to blame for the know where, he's just like, it can't be me. I need to do something drastically different in my life.

Sometimes, and I'm not saying this is the case, sometimes when people start, I am not saying this is the case, but I have seen this with other fighters. It's insecurity. They're not getting the results that they want, so they start to look around and point the finger at somebody else. When the harsh reality, and this isn't about Henry and coach Eric. This is just in general, I have seen this. The harsh reality is that the fighter or the person in question just hasn't got it anymore. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I think Tony Ferguson, he was always changing his know. He's on a seven fight losing streak, right? He'll always be a legend. But then you're changing the team all the time because you're like, well, I need this. No, I don't. You get beat again. I need that. No, I don't. I need David Goggins. I need David Goggins.

It's a reach, right?

Yeah. You start thinking, you know what I mean?

Hey, where's that dickhead who was training Diego Sanchez? Let's see what he's doing.

What's his name again? Jacob. What's his name?

God, I can't remember. It's driving me crazy.

He was the biggest weirdo on planet goddamn Earth, and I'm glad we don't see him around anymore.

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Nothing too crazy.

No.

All right, we got volk responding to the two old allegations.

Dude. Dude. Oh, yeah. We didn't play that video. I was dying. This is genius. This is amazing. Play the video, because there's a good chance a lot of the believers haven't seen it. And I showed Rebecca in bed last night. Check this out. It's gold. I'll make a headline out of anything these days.

It's ridiculous.

All this talk about the over 35 curse. It's nonsense. So I've let the sports bet crew in our shoes off. Shoes off to prove I'm just as youthful as these whippersnaps. That's a grish. Nah, I'm good. Usually a hit. What's a grish? Hanging up the gloves.

Black licorice.

It's always, Dana, we want you to headline this next main card. This will be him. Now watch. Dana who? Taxation office. My credit card details are 9036 coming. I've seen this, like, 20 times. Huge. I really don't like them. We already got a date set for next week at the council court. Here, let me show you something. My neighbor's fence. At least ten mil in my yard. It's ridiculous.

What did you say, little fighter boy?

Nothing. Beverly Garden.

Sorry, man.

Anyway, that'll do, Bry. That'll do. Another vh. Have you not seen this, Harrington?

No, I have.

It's just. I only seen it once. It's so funny. It's so good. It really is. And what he's referring to there is this. It's not a curse, but they call it the 35 year old curse is a terminology that's doing the rounds. Fighters weighing 125 pounds to 100 and 7570 pounds out of 33 title fights. If you're 35 or older, in 33 title fights, they have gone two and 31. Only two people. I would love to know who the two are. I saw the stat, but it didn't give names. So 31 times out of 33 fights, you lose. So that is definitely a trend. It's a stat, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's a hard and fast rule, and it always depends on the individual. But I think that was just genius way of handling it for Volkanovsky, for sure.

I think I also read something, if I'm not mistaken, in featherweight title fights, the younger man has won something. Know, it was like the older fighter is like three and seven, and all three of those are Alexander Volkanovsky. If anybody is going to buck this trend and become the first 35 plus to win a title fight in these lower weight classes, I think it's Volkanovsky.

Yeah. I mean, just going back to the fight itself, I mean, Taporia does pose a real threat. Of course he does. And as John Annex said, if we were trying to save Maisie outside of Bolkanovsky, the next guy would be toporia, in my opinion. However, I'll say this, there's a big difference in the level of competition that volkswagen fighting to the level of mean. His best win right now is Josh Emmett, which was a beautiful victory over a really tough opponent. And he beat the brakes off him convincingly. And he went to a decision based upon that. He's now saying he's going to finish Volkanovsky in round one. I don't necessarily see the logic there.

Right.

That's the guy who Volkanovsky's opponents have to beat to get to Volkanovsky. You know what? Don't. I don't really get the connection. I mean, you know, it says he's champion already on his Twitter and his instagram, so it must be true, right?

It must be true. All right, so give us a non MMA story, Harrington. Something to put a smile on our face. Something light, upbeat, something cheery, something that will just, like, warm the cockles of your heart or your soul and just make you think, wow, what a great world we live in.

What's more heartwarming than a Colorado couple misappropriating funds that were meant to pay for dead people's funerals and buying lavish cars, taking beautiful vacations, getting a ton of crypto while 189 bodies just rotted in a room in their home? Heartwarming.

Yeah. This was a couple in Colorado, and they wanted to make a more sustainable funeral service, correct? Yes.

So their thing was, we're going to put you in a biodegradable box and then compost that and give you the remains in a very biologic, I'm sorry, eco friendly way so they're not sending a bunch more crap into the ozone layer.

Okay. All right. I guess on paper, I can see the appeal of that. Maybe ultimately, when you're dead, you're dead. Okay. Some people are weird about that. Some people want to stick around. Some people want to be worshiped. They want to have a massive tombstone. Some people don't give a shit and want to get cremated. So what were they actually doing?

What they were doing was taking the bodies and just leaving them in a room that was not refrigerated, that was covered in bugs and all kind of other disgusting, creepy crawlies. You can only imagine what that room would smell like with 109 bodies just free decomposing. And they were giving the families that gave them the money and their family's remains, a bag of cement and ash and random debris that they could find.

I mean, the balls on these people.

I don't believe you. Look at how nice they are.

Is that actually them?

Oh, yeah, that's the couple.

Oh, my God. Look at them two there. Now they look crazy. Them right there. But go back to the other one.

It's amazing what a suit will do for you.

A suit and a bit of makeup and a nice bit of lighting. I mean, I'll be honest, they look like the kind of people that you might want to introduce your elderly mother to if she wants to be cremated or whatever. They look like a nice set of people.

If they wanted to run this scam successfully, right, they should have just pretended to be one of those companies that plants you under a tree. Then they could have just planted a tree and done whatever with the bodies. But they up. That's all it is.

If we google them, can we find the website or anything, Brian? Because I would love to see what their pitch is online. Yeah, yeah. Be right back. But I will say this in terms, see if you can find out what they cost, what they charge people. And in fact, Brian, if you can, I'm throwing a lot of things at you. Find out the average charge or cost of burying a parent or a funeral because they ain't cheap.

So I'm seeing for the green burial type that this place was saying. It's saying that the average cost of a green funeral ranges between $1000 to $4,000. For an eco friendly funeral, 1000 to 4000.

So I guess it's got to be more for a regular funeral. And they had 109 bodies, so they were taking, let's just say $4,000 of every person. And they were just dumping the dead body in their basement or a spare room and just leaving them to it. And the smell would just be disgusting.

That's probably why they were taking so many vacations.

Fair enough. They said the company charged 1895, $1,895 for a natural burial, not including the cost of a casket or cemetery space.

Okay.

Natural burial means.

I'm seeing that as $358,155 for the 189 bodies that were found there. Who knows how many they actually dealt with?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Something like the 300,000 mark. $350,000. So what's going to happen to these now? Because, listen, they haven't killed anyone.

No.

What do they have charge?

It would be theft of fraud, theft of services, fraud.

And then there is something about desecrating a body. There definitely is a charge for that.

Imagine you get locked up, you go into prison on your first day. You're what you win for. Yeah. So I took 109 bodies and just had them decomposing in my spare room. Smelled a little bit, but fuck you. Now, we had some killer holidays. I think you get a lot of respect, Brian, what have you.

Over 200 felony charges. I'm sure a huge conglomerate of them.

For each multiple body.

Yeah, over 200 felony charges. They're going to jail forever.

They'll probably serve a long time, right? They'll probably never get out.

No, probably not.

So this is the crazy thing, because in the UK, there was a very famous murder just recently. Two young girls stabbed to death. Another young girl, a transgender girl. It's not important. Whatever.

Oh, at the park.

Right at the park.

I did hear about it.

It's fucked up, man. There's two young girls, or, no, sorry, a girl and a boy. And they get 20 years, they're going to be out in ten. So they've cold blooded stabbed the life out of somebody, and in ten years time, they'll be walking around. I mean, I will say this, being English, having lived in the UK and lived in the States, you guys do some shit way better. And I think we do some things way better, right? It's different systems in the States. I do like the fact that you guys don't around when it comes to punishing serious criminals. I know there's a lot of people getting away with a lot of stuff. Those immigrants in New York, they're getting it right now. But, yeah, if you did something like that in the States, you ain't seeing daylight ever again. More than likely.

No. Well, I mean, yeah, they'd also, I'm sure, slap hate crime stuff at you and trump up your charges like crazy. But we got the death penalty. Like, we go a step further, know you're going to die in jail. It's like, we're going to kill you in jail.

Yeah. The death penalty is a tricky one, isn't it? Because there's been so many people with DNA, with DNA that were found to be innocent. I do think that if they know for a fact beyond the shadow of a doubt, not beyond reasonable doubt. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. Certain crimes, of course, I think certain crimes, the death penalty is coldfire. I think a cell is too good for some people, like the rape of children, the murder of children, and just certain disgusting, ungodly crimes like that. I am all for that. But only if you can prove without question, like you're caught on CCTV or just everything is like, it was you. It was you. Even my son could figure that out. Even Harrington could figure that out.

Yes, Brian George Carlin has a bit about how to make the Super bowl more entertaining, where he was just like, we take all these pedophiles and all these murderers and rapists and we just rapid fire execute them at halftime.

Oh, God. Well, it would make it. You might get some views. I mean, it would be the most.

Watched thing in the history of television.

Every year, sneakos out there getting beat a shit off Sean Strickland is that same kind of crowd. They're going to tune in and watch that. It's always funny because Brian always comes on and he's always like, this might get us kicked off YouTube. And then he comes out with that comment without any disclaimer whatsoever. Real quick, I want to touch on the weekend's fights. In the main event, we had Joe Piper versus Jaco Manson. Joe Piper looked like he was the real deal. Looked like he was going to live up to the hype. In the first two rounds, he was rocking Jaco Manson early, cracking him with big left hooks, with big right hands, loading up on his shots. And I don't mean that from a disrespectful point of view. I mean, he was going for the knockout, which is what you're supposed to do. I was thoroughly impressed with the chin of Jacob Manson. I thought he weathered the storm nicely in rounds one and two, and then experience took over. Butchered that calf kick throughout five rounds, to the point where Piper was switching stances because he was in agony. Landed beautiful jabs.

Took the vision out of him with the jab in round three. In fact, I've got a DM from Joe Piper here. Let's have a little look see. Doing what? His actual thing that he said, the statement, what he said, or the message, what he sent, he said, yeah, that punched in my eye, took my vision away. I just couldn't see after that. Yeah, there we go. No need to look at the message. Jaco Manson weathered the storm, took it five rounds, used the experience, kept his Cool, showed a good chin, and, yeah, it was a clear three to two victory. I think that fight will be absolutely instrumental for Joe Piper. I think it's one of those fights where you start to realize, hold on a minute. I have the power, I have the aggression, I have the physicality. I've got all these things, but there's still a bit of technical strategy aspects which need to be figured out. And that comes with, like, the rough.

Part about that fight. For me, coming out of that first round, I turned to a budy, and I'm like, this is the first guy since Paulo Costa we've had in this division where it's like, oh, my God, just look at these hands go, right, like, I don't count Alex Pereira, because Alex Pereira was just fighting a couple of guys until he proved he was ready to fight Izzy. Like, this is a prospect who came out of nowhere, who's getting it done with his hands, with the violence. Big power, big pop, and then it just started to melt. My big thing is, Piper came out throwing those heavy, heavy leg kicks early. Hermanson checked, I think, like, two or three in the first round, and that really seemed to piper up a little.

Bit, but that's the way it always goes. All it takes is because I've fought a lot of kickboxing and tie boxing as well. One good check against a real good kicker, they stop because it hurts them way more than it hurts you. And they go, that sucked. I don't want that again. I don't want that. So well done to Jacob Manson. Thoroughly a nice guy. He's a true veteran of the sport, been around forever. Well done to him for getting it done in the main event. And, of course, Dan ege, once again. Get going out. That's the second knockout I think he's had like that quite recently. Who was it Daniegay over? Andre Feely. I hated watching that. Andre Feely is a class acts, man. He's a great guy. He's an incredible fighter. I love talking to him. He's a proper, nice human being, Andre Feely, I'm telling you, because Callum used to train at team alpha male, he said andre Feely would always come over. He was always so helpful and respectful and nice and trying to help and whatnot. Daniel, man, he's got some power in that right hand.

Yeah, that was. Damon Jackson is the other walker I think you're thinking of.

I mean, I don't know.

It's just interesting to me. Dan Egay is now eight and one as a favorite in the UFC. He beats the guys who he's supposed to just, there's just something about, like, dan Ege is a very hard hurdle to climb. And that's why when guys like Mozart Evlov is able to get a win over him, it's like, all right, this guy actually is the real.

For sure. For sure. And you know, who is the real deal also? Who's that? John Anneck. Thank you, John, for joining us. And thank you, all believers, for being here. You, we would typically say, if you have a question, send it into bympod@gmail.com. In fact, I am saying, if you have a question, send it into bympod@gmail.com. But we're not doing questions today because we're a little low on the quality of questions.

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To it because there's only so much.

I can do to make it audible for the show. Otherwise, we just don't know what you're.

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