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You're listening to believe you, me with Michael the Count Bisbing and Anthony Lionheart. Smith.

My tips are just too big, Harrington. I think that's what's going on. Either that or my t shirt is shrinking. I put a couple on this morning. I'm like, this is not too tight. I am not trying to be that guy, but I think they're shrinking.

Geez.

I mean, I do wear these t shirts a lot. Anyway, welcome to the show, everybody. You will notice that isn't Anthony Smith. It's Mike Harrington. Good to see you, Mike. Thanks for being here. Anthony Smith is not here today. He was supposed to be. So don't all go crazy in the comment section. I know a lot of you are talking shit. He's training for a fight. He's got a fight at UFC 301, and I believe Hamilton. You spoke about this publicly, right? I'm not breaking news here.

Yeah, he talked about it on Wednesday on his Sirius XM show, and then a lot of the major MMA news publications ran with it over the weekend.

Okay, good. Yeah, he's fighting Vito Petrino, who is an undefeated fighter. He got a big win over tyson Pedro, a couple of weeks ago. He called out Anthony Smith for that fight. So fair play to Anthony. I mean, there's no easy fights in the UFC, but Vito Petrino being undefeated, beating Tyson, Pedro being a gigantic human being. He's a big light heavyweight. He's a powerful striker.

He's brazilian.

So you got to assume that he's got good jiu jitsu as well.

Hold on.

Let me look at my notes on my phone and I'll tell you right now the skinny on Vito Petrino. This is what I do every time I commentate a fight. I have my notes section on my phone. I've just got every fight. Vito Petrino, eleven, and goes on and on and on.

We don't need this.

Modestus Bukowskis knocked him out cold on the contender. Wild brawl, dropped him in one. Here's what I wrote. Not too technical, massive power, huge aggression. Round two, KR left hook. So he's a big, strong, aggressive guy. So Anthony was going to do the podcast today. He drove to do his training camp in Denver, Colorado, I believe at Factory X. Hit some insane traffic. It took him hours and hours and hours. So that's why he can't be here today. But he will be here on Mondays. And just so you all know, by the way, Mondays is Anthony day. Thursdays is guest day this Thursday. We got the one and only. Who did I say we got?

Paolo Costa. And I think we might have Bo nickel as well. Yes, sir.

Bo Nickel, Harrington and whoever else we can drag in as well. I think we got three guests, actually, for Thursday lined up anyway. So let's talk about that off the top, because UFC 301, of course, the next one coming up is 300, so I can't wait for that one. I think I'm working with Anthony on the desk.

Me, Anthony, Brendan Fitzgerald.

I think that's the lineup, so that'll be fun. But the big news right now, UFC.

301, we also have not only got the return of Anthony Smith, we also.

Have the flyweight title on the line, Alejandro Pantorja versus Steve Eraseg. We'll talk about that in a minute. But we've also got the return of the king of Rio, Jose Aldo, coming back against Jonathan Martinez. What was your initial thoughts on that?

Just while I look up Jose Aldo Harrison.

My initial thoughts on that were like, if Jose Aldo's coming back, let it be against Cruz. Let it be know somebody who's in the, you know, in, in the UFC. But either way, super happy to see Jose Aldo back and fighting ranked competition in Rio. It's going to be dope.

I don't see Jose Aldo added to the Wikipedia page, but that doesn't mean. Just. I'm trying to find when Jose Aldo's last fight was. I want to see how long the retirement was. Hold on. I'm scrolling down to his record right now. This is fantastic podcast and thank you all for being here. Oh, his last fight was Marab de Valesvili, 20 August 2022. So not far off. Two years by the time this fight comes around. And how old is he? He is 37 years old.

So not the youngest by far for a bantamweight, but he's still got name value.

I wonder what the reason was. I'd be very interested.

A lot of the time when fighters.

Retire and they come back like that, I don't know, is it financial?

Is it because they miss the sport? You know what I mean?

I mean, Mike Tyson, for crying out loud, against Jake Paul. I know why Mike Tyson's doing this. I don't know why Jake Paul's doing it, though. That's ridiculous. Mike Tyson, he's doing it because he misses it. He wants to thrill. And this excites him. He'll be able to go out there, know, beat an undefeated guy and all.

The rest of know.

There's many, many reasons for Mike Tyson for Jose Aldo, from what I understand, the legendary career that he had made a lot of money. I think he's got some burger restaurants as well down in Brazil.

He probably just feels that he's still.

Got something left to give and he wants to take advantage of it before. He definitely doesn't. It's like Paul Felder when he came on know. He still feels like he might have.

One or two left in him. So why not do it?

Why not roll the dice? And Jonathan Martinez.

Harrington, to your point.

I mean, look, listen, him versus Cruz.

That would be phenomenal. That'd be amazing.

I mean, that'd be two legends of the sport. Jonathan Martinez, that's a reputable guy.

You can't put Jose Aldo in know with a scrub.

No, but I mean, this is a guy on a six fight win streak who's got wins very recently over Sayed Norma made of and Adrian Janez. Like, this is a dude who's actively pushing for his own run to a title. Do you believe Jose Aldo is coming back to do just that? Make one more push to the title or get those one or two fights you still have out of your system?

I don't know. That's a good question. I guess we'll wait and see. I think even for somebody like Jose Aldo, they probably want to go out there and see how they do. If he goes out there and he beats Jonathan Martinez. Number one for Martinez. What a great thing to do. Is 301 going down in Rio?

I think it is. It is in Rio. Yeah.

The king of Rio fighting in Rio for Jonathan Martinez. That's a huge possible scalp for him. Jonathan Martinez also trains with Anthony Smith. Of course, Anthony's got Vito Petrino, Alejandro Pansolja versus Steve Urseg, Michel Pajara versus.

Makmu Mararov, and of course, Paul Craig against Jo Anderson.

Brito. No, he's not Kyle Bauhayo, but I.

Can'T do that in a Scottish accent, so.

Shaping up to be quite a decent.

Little card there, Harrington.

Yeah, I'm super excited. I can't remember if they went there, if they did end up going there last year, but, you know, in my haven't. I haven't been super excited having like, oh, I'm going to hear the fans in Rio going absolutely insane on a pay per view card in quite some time. So I'm excited and I think that might have as much to do with it as anything.

Right.

You're the king of Rio.

They're coming back.

How cool is that nickname? The king of know and everyone just calls it him now. The king of Rio. You're walking around. Oh, it's the king. It's the king. He's here. Jose Aldo walks know. Anyway, so well done to all of them. How do you feel about Anthony's matchup, Harrington?

So I immediately went and started looking at over the weekend at Petrino's whole record and it's like he got the win over Tyson Pedro and it was fairly dominant, but I think he only landed four more total significant strikes. He had three takedowns, decent amount of takedown time. I think he had one fight where he had like seven or eight, nine takedowns against. So wrestling is a very heavy part of his game. I don't know how he's going to deal with somebody like Anthony who's going to bring pressure to him because that's one thing Tyson Pedro really wasn't doing a ton of right. Like his legs were compromised early and it seemed like he was just trying to get to a bell. I feel like Anthony's going to bring pressure on know, come hell or high water and I want to see how he holds up.

Yeah.

Listen, I don't think I'm breaking any secrets here when I say Anthony's under a lot of pressure in this know. So obviously he's going to have to bring his a game as well. It's an undefeated guy. It's a bit of a step down, shall we say? Not in terms of danger of the opponent, in terms of fan recognition and ranked opponents and stuff like that. I don't think Tyson Pedro was particularly motivated in that fight. I think he knew it was going to be his last fight.

And if, you know, your career is done after this where most people, I.

Think or 50% of people would want to give their best performance, he didn't seem overly motivated and I think because he knew he was retired, going to retire. Speaking of which, he had the shortest retirement ever. He just came out of retirement.

Another one.

He's gone into the boxing world. Apparently. He's going to take some professional boxing matches. All the best to Tyson Pedro. Very, very nice guy. Yeah. For Anthony, though, let's be honest.

Pressure's on.

Pressure's on. It is. So he's got to really, really apply himself. That's why I said to him, I said, listen, if you don't want to do the podcast while you're training, I totally get it. Because you want to leave no stone.

Unturned, you got to put the fight camp first.

No stone unturned.

Obviously follow a strict diet stay off.

All the alcohol, no late nights, no partying, minimize travel, 100% focus on the fight, because, as I said, there's a bit of pressure on him here. There's always pressure in fights. But of course, Anthony, he's coming off the back of that lost. And Khalil Roundtree, granted, short notice and whatnot, but, yeah, tough fight for him. Tough fight. Anyway, of course, I fully expect him to get the job done, mind you.

Fully expect him.

But still, you can never take anybody lightly. Always got to look at your opponent as the toughest guy every fight, even though, let's say. So, he's fought John Jones, right? Every fight is the toughest fight of.

Your career, given the circumstances.

When he fought John Jones, of course, that's the toughest opponent of his career. But every time you fight, the goalpost move, if you've been successful and you work towards a title fight, all right, this one's a number one contender matchup. This is my first main event. This one's for the belt, whatever it is, the goalpost always moves. And now for Anthony, given a different set of circumstances, this again becomes the biggest fight of his career for him.

Mentally and in terms of outcome for his know.

So all the best to Anthony, and.

He will be back on Monday. Son of a bitch.

Better have be. Anyway, leave me talking to you. We're going to Rebecca Bisping joining us for a little segment or two today as well. There's some weird stuff going on on social media. We'll talk about that, but we're going.

To talk about Saturday night Martian.

Tybora versus Ty to Avasa. Ty to Avasa came out looking really, really deadly. Swinging as always. Did a bit of damage to Tybora early, opened him up, bit of blood on display. Taibora goes forward.

Do you know what impressed me about Taibora? He fought him.

He wasn't trying to use a strategy, and that's kind of what you got to do against Ty to Avasa.

Yeah. Okay.

If you've got the movement and the speed and the long jab and all the rest of it to do that, fantastic. But Ty Bor is not really that.

Guy, but he's a big dude.

He's very strong, and it's like, listen, if Ty's coming at you like that.

You got to fight fire with fire. He did that.

He went forward. He backed him up. Beautiful combination level changes, get the takedown.

And then it was done. But what was your thoughts?

I thought, I mean, it kills me anytime I see a guy letting his opponent get the hands clasped because he wants to reach over and throw shots. It wasn't like an elbow to the side of the a. He reached over his body to try to throw some punches on the ear of Tybora, let Tyboro get the body lock, and at that point he got him down and it was just all over. And I think that's the frustrating part with me for Ty, because he is so dangerous when he's on the feet. But the moment he's on the ground, it's just all the power get ups. There's no structure, there's no technique. And it's. I. I want to see somebody who's that powerful and that dangerous at least have the wrestling get ups to get himself back up and give himself that puncher's.

Yeah, no, no, I kind of agree. Listen, Taz, he's got to work on know, I'm not sure how many losses that is now in a row, but what is it, two or three, something like that. He's a fun addition.

Four, is it?

Yeah, I think it's four. He's a fun addition. I like to tie to avar. I said it on the broadcast Saturday. He just makes me smile, man. He does, right. The way he handles himself from the moment he walks out, the choice of music, the way that he fights, the celebrations is brilliant.

I love him. I love the way he fights.

I love the energy that he brings. But you got to get the wind.

You know what I mean?

So he's got a bit of work to do. And I say that with respect, but it's just the, you know, can't be making mistakes like that at the highest level. And then the co main event, Brian battle versus Angelusa.

Brian battle. Brian, keep an eye on this name, man.

Brian battle's doing big things. Granted. Unfortunate circumstance Saturday. An eye poke, accidental thumb in the eye. Fight stops early. Angelus says he can't continue.

Oh, shit.

Hits the fan afterwards. Angelus just says he can't fight and he's blind in one eye or whatever it was that he said. And then he's trying to get a brian battle. All shit hit the fan. Brian battle had quite the promo on the microphone afterwards. But Brian battle, I thought he looked brilliant. He looked really good. Because Orange Lucifer is a tough bastard. We're going to move on. We've got lots of breaking news to get to and lots of stuff to talk about. Orange Lucido is not an easy man to defeat.

And yes, Brian hadn't beaten him, but.

Given what we saw in the six minutes of action.

It looked like I'd be forgiven for.

Saying it looked like that was trending that way.

Yeah, I mean, that's one of those where if that happens five minutes later and it has to go to an early judges scorecard, you know, that's coming out for brian battle. And that's a guy know, he looks better every single time you see him in the octagon. And you guys were very quick calling on commentary. That's the best brian battle we've ever.

Yeah, yeah, he's big, he's got great grappling. He's tall for the division, he's got great striking. Keep an eye on the name Brian Battler. I got a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot more of him. Maybe a little appearance on the podcast as well. So we'll see. This episode is sponsored by optimizers that basically specialize in magnesium to make sure that you are sleeping great. Listen, we're all trying to take care of our body. Health is wealth. But if you're not getting the right sleep, then you're not going to recover properly from your workouts. You're not going to be effective and productive the next day and you're just all round going to be bit of a cranky bastard.

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Mike Davis was brilliant.

I love watching that guy fight. He is so good with the boxing Saturday night. The grappling was fantastic as well. He's a very high level mixed martial artist in every sense of the word. The boxing, I'm telling you, it is so nice and crisp and powerful. That first right hand that he hit levy with dropped him, folded him. I thought he was unconscious.

Then he gets the job done.

I think it was a submission in the end.

Yeah.

Arm triangle, round two. You know, I was speaking to Mike Davies last week. I asked him about this on the microphone.

He doesn't like fighting.

He doesn't enjoy combat, he doesn't enjoy beating somebody up, but he enjoys the.

Freedom of what being a successful UFC fighter gives him.

I thought that was really interesting.

Yeah.

And it's like, I don't know, that's a doubly scary guy.

You know what I mean?

Somebody who's going to hit you and you can see there's pain in his side that he has to do this to you. I don't mean that's, you know, you talk about all the time, why do any of these guys do it?

Right?

You want to provide a decent life for your family and you see it as a way to do it. And if he's just that skilled at martial arts, there's guys who've hated playing football. They hate the game of football and they're multimillionaires because of it.

Give me a footballer that hates football.

I'm trying to remember his name. I believe it was Judavian Clowney when he was Judavian.

Good old Judavian.

They asked him, they were like, oh, man, how much do you love football? Going out there to play with your brothers? He's like, I don't like this. I hurt people.

I'm not about doing that.

I'm not about this practicing nonsense. But I'm going to make my family generationally wealthy, so I'm going to stick.

With it for a few years. Did he really mean that, though?

Or was he just trying to give a nice little sound bite like Mike Davis? I don't enjoy this. I'm a martial artist.

Cough.

Don't get me wrong, you're a nice guy. When you land that right hand, you look like you enjoyed it there. When you choked him out unconscious. You look like you're having a whale of a. Guys, guys, I'm a nice guy, okay? I do not enjoy this. I don't enjoy it. I don't love throwing a viciously fast right hand right through somebody's skull. I'm just really good at it. Listen, I get what he's saying, but that feels good.

That feels good.

I don't like showing up to training and clowning on all my training partners, making everyone look a fool around me as I beat them up at my will. That stinks.

I hate it.

Yeah, I call bullshit on the footballer as well.

That's bullshit, man.

Okay?

To get at that level of football, you got to enjoy it.

Otherwise you would have given up a long time ago when you were playing football at school.

Middle school, high school, college. If you didn't like it, you wouldn't.

Have got good at it in the first.

I. I don't know, man.

There are definitely guys from a third world country. There's definitely guys from third world countries. Nikola Jokic, I'll give you for instance. He's a basketball player. Hates basketball.

Bullshit.

Can't wait to go home and play with my horses.

Dude. No way.

You're telling me.

No. Just because. How tall is he, though?

He's like seven foot five and like 290 pounds, and he moves like a gazelle.

It's crazy when you're seven foot five or whatever the hell he is. I doubt he's seven five, maybe.

Is he even over seven foot? I don't know.

Look at.

But when you're that high, it's like.

Listen, dude, you might not like this.

Game, but you're seven foot tall, okay? You ain't doing much else. Okay? You are designed. You are built for this. You were given this DNA.

Don't be a prick.

That's the only one I'll accept. Other than that, they all bloody like it anyway. So well done to everyone that competed Saturday night. Tiago Moises got a quick win as well over Mitch Ramirez. Jeff Alphilo beat Ode Osborne.

All right, there you go.

Old Vincent Pru as well. Got to give him a shout out. Kind of a slower pace fight.

But in round three, him and Zetchiku Kennedy. Here's the thing. Enzeku and Zachukwu and all three of.

You consistently said it a different way on the broadcast.

No, I know. This is the thing. I will follow the play by play guy, right? And on that occasion, it was John Gooden, who's great at what he does. Shout out, John.

Nice guy.

Brendan Fitzgerald says it.

Enza chukwu. John.

Anne says Enze chiku. Or maybe I've got that the other way around. I have no idea what John Gooden was saying. He wasn't saying either. So I'm just like. I'm just going to say it the way that John Annex says it because John Annex very, very anal about the pronunciations, as we've said. But the fight, it was kind of a slower paced fight in round one.

And two, but then in round three.

They just kind of traded in the pocket. I enjoyed that.

Really good OSP.

Most wins in the light heavyweight division. Second most finishes as well.

Yeah.

Unbelievable. Bit of a dark horse in that.

Mean, you know, I think he was the biggest underdog on the card as well. Like something like win. He was expected to lose that fight by knockout in the first round. So to see him in the third throwing hammers with one of the more dangerous strikers in the division was super cool to see.

Yeah, no, it really was. So in the world of mixed martial arts, there's things going on, but we're going to talk about this. We touched on Ryan Garcia recently. It appears that Ryan Garcia is having.

A bit of a meltdown. It really does, in my humble opinion. I'm not a doctor, I'm not a.

Psychologist, but I think one look at this guy, all the stuff that he's posted on social media and.

Give me two minutes, Bev.

You can clearly see there's some things going on, right? So he's been posting a lot, talking about getting taken to. What was it called, Brian?

Bohemian Grove.

Bohemian Grove and watching kids be forced down and sexually abused and stuff like that. But he managed to film it all on his phone at the same time and stuff. So there's some kind of inconsistency.

Yeah, but then he lost his phone.

No, he lost his phone.

Okay.

All right.

He's out of his mind and I'm not saying this from a comical standpoint. I actually know it's a shame and it's sad to see.

And he needs some help and he.

Needs his bloody phone taken off him. Then there was a video coming out.

Just recently where he says that the athletic commission in New York want him assessed, evaluated in order for him to be licensed there. Brian, roll the tape.

Sure.

I'm going to sue the NYC commission.

And I'm saying this. Why?

They're trying to challenge me for a mental evaluation. I said, okay, what is your premises for the mental evaluation? Well, your tweets and your posts. I said, is it not my US constitutional right to have free speech?

So because I'm tweeting what I'm tweeting.

That'S premises for a mental evaluation. That's curious. So now you're trying to mess with my constitutional rights. Now I'm going to sue you. I'm going to sue you for defamation of character. Actually, they won't test Mike Tyson if he fought in New York, but they will test me.

Sounds a little fishy to me. And I love Mike. Mike loves me.

Cannot wait for them to actually take me to court because I will literally defeat them. My own therapist told me I should be smoking weed. She told me, why aren't you allowed to smoke weed?

Thank you. She goes, maybe you should try Asha Guanda.

I never even tried Ashwagandha.

She said that it will help me.

And then she said, why haven't you tried? Don't want. I wouldn't try shrooms. I don't. He goes on and on.

He says that he's going to sue.

The New York State Athletic Commission. Says that he's going to sue them.

Here's the thing.

As I said, he seems lately like he's going through some stuff.

We'll just leave it at that.

The New York State Athletic Commission on NYC Athletic Commission, NYAC, who cares?

New York State Athletic.

The commission. The New York State Athletic Commission.

They've ultimately got to protect him and.

They'Ve got to protect themselves because the New York Athletic Commission is incredibly tough.

And renowned to get licensed by.

And I had to jump through all kinds of hoops. Obviously, I had my eye issue. So I know about this firsthand. It was not easy. I had to do a lot of stuff. I had to jump through so many hoops. And maybe one day I'll talk about that a bit more openly. It was not bloody easy, let me tell you that. And it all stems from, if I'm not mistaken, there was a boxer, I forget when it was, and he sued.

The athletic commission for, I think he might have died.

I think he might have died afterwards, and he didn't get the care that he needed or something like that. I'm butchering this story. But anyway, ultimately, they had to fork out something like ten, $15 million because.

They were kind of found liable.

So you learn your lesson, you know what I mean? And you make sure that, a, you're not going to be liable for anything else like that going forward, and, b, that you're making sure that people don't get hurt and injured or ultimately pass away, which should be the primary concern of any kind of athletic commission. So they see that and they say, right, we want to get you evaluated. There's nothing wrong with them saying that at all. And if he's got nothing wrong with.

Him, he should welcome that. It's not about your free speech, buddy.

It's not about your bloody free speech. It's about knowing whether or not you.

Are mentally fit to step into a boxing ring. Yeah.

And it's like, I don't care what you were saying. It's how you're saying it.

Right?

It's these pacing around your house selfie videos on Twitter and tweeting at od hours of the night. You're supposed to be in training camp for, as you said, your next fight is your biggest fight. So this is the biggest fight of your life. It's a month and two days away, and you're now concerned about needing to go and take an evaluation by an athletic commission for that fight. That should be the only thing on your mind is, like, jumping through the hoops that you have to for this fight so this fight can go on. Instead, you're talking about finding God and converting people and what's happening to these children.

Yes.

Every athletic commission in the country should.

Be looking at you 100%, and that's.

Their job, as I said, ultimately, to make sure that you are fit to compete and you are safe enough to compete. Boxing is a terrible sport. Boxing, people pass away.

You know what I'm saying?

It's a really sad stat. Things, on average, ten people a year, all around the world, because it's nothing but headshots, okay? So you should be thanking them that.

They'Re doing their due diligence and they're.

Being important, and they're thinking of your safety and just go down the street booking with a bloody guy that can assess you like that. And who knows?

Maybe they find that there is a few screw loose. Screws loose and maybe you got to do a little bit of work.

I think he's just coming off of a loss. First loss in his career, probably one of the first losses in his life.

Got a win since then, if I'm not mistaken.

He got the win in between.

But the next guy he's fighting is just as dangerous as tank, probably. I think he's just panicking because there's a good chance that he also loses that fight in a much more vicious manner.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. That always brings pressure.

But I think it's just a case of young, famous.

He's had some fights. He's probably surrounded by some bad people. There's been a lot of accusations that I know nothing about, but people talking about cocaine and stuff like that even publicly came out and denied that at a press conference, which is he shouldn't have done that.

Maybe he just has a cold.

Yeah, well, maybe he is. Maybe he's partying hard or whatever.

But partying hard is one thing.

Ranting and raving on your phone on a daily basis, doing bloody lives with Andrew Tate and talking about the stuff that he was talking about.

I'm sorry.

I know a lot of people on here, a lot of far right people are going to say, oh yeah, the elites are doing that. And I know you're going to say that as well, Brian.

Right.

Well, they are. You just don't have to be manic in public about know you can be more collective.

Listen, I don't know that they, you know, all these actors, they're all pedophiles and they're all raping kids. I don't think that's the case. I'm sorry.

Look up Isaac Kaplan, I believe his name is.

There's some mad shit goes on in the world and there's some very weird.

Sick people out there.

Right? I don't think Ryan Garcia was exposed to that. I think he's talking out of his goddamn ass. I think he's mentally ill and making up absolute shit. I also think that a lot of people, and whilst granted there will be.

A lot of weight to some things, I also think that a lot of.

Stuff that you see and read on.

The Internet, guys, isn't true.

And that's the. Before you start all those Hollywood bisping, defending his Hollywood buddies. What are you talking about? I don't have any Hollywood buddies. Okay?

I'm just saying that this thing that.

Everyone'S a rapist and role pedophile and they're eating babies heads and stuff like.

That as far as I know, it's not true.

Okay? And as far as I can, I would put money on it that Ryan Garcia is talking out of his goddamn.

Ass because he's having a mental mean.

We saw how easy it is to lead the right astray, right. By dog whistling that people are abusing children. Right? We saw it with the Q drops. Remember that five years ago, Q said this. Q says that people legitimately believed this stuff and it was a four chan message board messing around. So it's like, could somebody like Ryan Garcia, who has an outsized personality and probably a bipolar episode coming on, could he use that to get people on his side for whatever thing he's got he's making up in his mind?

God bless.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

You have such a wild take on.

About.

Do you not remember when the queue drops were happening? People were like, oh, Trump is giving secret messages through this message board.

Yeah, I mean, I saw the people that thought that Trump has been secret president the whole time. And those people are absolutely out of their minds. But they're the same people that are like a zealot in whatever they're going to take on in their know. It doesn't matter what it is.

I'm going to stop you both.

The Pandora's box and you're talking out your ass. Brian jumps in straight away. He's like, here we go, baby. We're off to the races. Allow me to get this back on course. Okay. Talking about Ryan Garcia, he's having a mental breakdown. The New York State Athletic Commission are doing right. They are not suppressing free speech. They are expressing concern for his mental welfare. And I, for one, applaud them for that.

Because in a sport where you take hits to the head, sadly, that can happen. So it reminds me of that Peele.

Sketch where he's like, is this man actually know? He's like, that's not fair for me or him. It's hilarious.

I'll show you.

Like and Peele, key and Peele are absolutely hilarious.

Okay, so John Jones, Tom Aspinall, right? We want to see them in the octagon one day. And we might have had a little.

Preview about that at the weekend because.

John Jones was at the Thunder outside.

John Jones was at the Arnold Sports.

Festival in Birmingham, England.

I think he was there because I was there a couple of years ago.

Tom Aspinall was also there, of course, as we know, John Jones recovering, going to fight Stipe.

Tom's the interim champ. A lot of people want to see them throw down. Tom seized the opportunity, got his YouTube crew around with him, had the microphone.

On, goes up, breaks the line, walks to the front and has a little.

Not a confrontation.

Not a confrontation. But there was a little bit of.

Chest puffing and alpha maleness going on. Let's have a look.

Just saying hello.

It's that bit there.

I'm going to do this thing.

I would love to, man. I would hope so.

Respect, man. All the respect.

All the.

Do a quick picture.

Sure, yeah, let's do it.

A face off.

Just. No, no.

Okay.

Number one, the face off.

Tom. I know for a fact Tom doesn't do face offs. Tom.

I've done appearances with Tom. Right.

And people come up and they say face off. But Tom says, no, I don't do that. But he wants to get one with Jones because he's smart.

I get it. You know what I mean?

That'd be a viral shot. Them two squaring know, and Jones was just like, nah, forget that.

But that's Tom's move.

He puts his hand on the shoulder. If you look at the fight with Sergey Pavlovich, Madison Square, gone before they.

Started, he puts the hand on the shoulder.

He did it. I think he's done it in numerous of his fights. He's done it many times. Puts the hand on the shoulder. And it's kind of two things. One, it's being nice and saying, hey, there's no animosity here. This isn't personal. It's just business.

But also there's an element of big brothering your opponent, saying, don't worry, don't worry. This will be fine.

This is going to be okay.

Tom goes up, hand on the shoulder. Jones is like, no, you don't.

You ain't pulling that shit with me.

And I love it.

I love it. I can't wait for that fight to go down. Of course, Jones versus stipe. But what are your thoughts, Harrington?

Jones, he talked a lot. He talked a lot over the last couple of months.

This.

This Tom Aspinall fight is huge. We can make big box office with this. And when they're face to face, all he has for him is an, yeah, I hope so. Not like, yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, we're going to do it on this day. Let me get steepe out of the way in November. Let's plan spring of next year. There wasn't any of that. It was just a very non committal sizing him up, which I didn't love.

Yeah, that's a fair point. That is a fair point, because you would have thought that he would have.

Said, yeah, well, listen, let me take care of Stipe and then. Don't worry, I'll take care of you.

With a smile on his face. I mean, it was very cordial and very mature from the pair of them. Even that one little moment, I mean, it wasn't even bad. That's as close to a little bit know. I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge type thing.

But you're right.

Should he have said that?

I don't mean, of course Tom wants that fight.

Tom's a nice guy, he's respectable, and he's not going to cause any drama. In fact, he even said afterwards, he said, I want to fight the guy in an octagon. I'm not trying to fight him at some signing event. That doesn't make any sense. But, yeah, that was kind of a curious response. You're right.

I agree. He should have said, yeah, don't worry, don't worry. You're next.

Let me take care of stipe and we'll figure it. So. Or maybe it was just like, I'm.

Not letting you be in the driver's seat.

If it happens, it happens.

But I'm the champ. You know what I mean?

So you got then three instances of him playing it cool, right? Like, he's like, yeah, we'll see. Maybe I'll fight you. By the way, get your hand off of me. And no, I'm not taking a fan picture with you squaring up like, that's big brother and right there.

Are you saying that Jones is currently three and o against Tom Aspinal?

I'm just saying that's three strikes. And it seems like Tom might have.

Been out in that psychological warfare.

No, it's four and. Oh, Tom's going to him, right?

Jones didn't go to him. He's minding his own business. Tom comes up, he's like, all right, let him jump the line.

All right.

You waiting in line to see me? Are you okay? Come on, get a picture. No, you can't have a face up. No, get your hand off me. And no, I'm not agreeing to a fight.

I'm the boss.

I'm in charge.

Damn.

I wish we didn't speak to Tom last week.

I wish it was this week.

I would love to hear his take on all of that, but fair play. Rebecca, are you there?

Come in here.

I saw a story on social media.

And I've got a chair for Rebecca here so she can sit down in.

Your own time, Rebecca. We're live on a show. It's the number one ever made podcast on planet Earth. Probably the best podcast that you've ever. I've heard the thunder. Welcome to the show.

Hi, Harrington. I haven't even sat down yet.

But you don't have to lean in and stuff.

Well, I do. Michael, you need to move this.

Move what?

This arm.

Okay.

Jeez, love, please.

Look at this.

Married couples. I'll tell you what. Eight sleep ain't going to fix this. No, you want this one.

Eight sleep can fix the temperature of the bloody bed. Can't do anything about the bickering.

You think I nag?

But whatever she does, nag.

All right, I'm going to let you tee this one up. And then, Brian, just give us a one shot of me and Rebecca.

No offense, Harrington, but gas digital studios, right? Tell us about this woman with the five head.

So she formerly of a five head, trying to get it down. Beth Halsey, a 27 year old. She went under the knife for what they're calling a forehead reduction surgery. Said it was life changing thanks to all the bullying she was getting.

Okay, okay, so this is a before shot.

I'm presuming.

Brian, give us that still again, because.

I tell you what, that has to have been a before shot.

It's not that bad.

It's a big forehead. Let's be honest.

That is a five head, but with a fringe. A six or a seven head.

Okay, it really is. But number one, how the hell did.

They go about reducing somebody's forehead?

That's a very good question, Brian. If you could look that up and.

Just let me know when you've found anything. Because what are they going to do? Chop into a head, remove a piece.

Of the skull, and then somehow condense the head?

I would have suggested what they would do is do, like, a hair transplant, like, further down towards her eyebrows.

So that reduces the look of the forehead. Yeah. Oh, shit.

Who am I texting there?

It's you. But here's what I wanted to talk.

About, not just the madness of that.

I mean, number one, listen, this is a prime example of the world gone soft, okay? Look, she's a pretty girl, right? She's not an ugly girl.

She's not unattractive, right?

She could just grow her hair.

She could have a fringe. Apparently, she got sick of the fringe.

Yes, Brian, so what they.

Let's get rid of the woman.

It is a hairline movement surgery. So they remove excess skin on your forehead and pull your hairline down.

Oh, they do remove excess skin, so.

They kind of like, tighten up your don't.

Michael, I disagree. I don't think it's a world gone soft. I think if that's what she wants to do and she's got the money for it, if it's bothering her and if she's like, being bullied because of it, then go ahead. If it's going to give her more confidence and make her feel better about.

Herself, well, then more power to her.

No, but she's saying because the quote is because she was bullied. So she's gone out there, spent 9000.

Pounds on this surgery. Okay, she's not a bad looking girl.

She had a fringe. She just said she got sick of the fringe. So now she's going to go out there, spend 9000 pounds. To some people, that's a life changing amount of money. It is. I think at a certain point you just got to toughen it up and.

Suck it up because look at that there. You mean.

All right, fair enough.

She looks good. She does look better.

Looks a little bit like Nina drama. She's always going on about her forehead being big.

How's your. It's in proportion.

It's in proportion, I think. No, but girls are nasty. Is that sir, there?

Is that after Brian? I mean, to be fair, I'm going.

To say the surgery scar.

Yeah. I'm going to say it was probably guys saying that. I don't think girls.

No, girls are nastier than men now.

With social media, it's both because people are faceless. I bet she was being bullied on social media. I bet it wasn't like a school thing.

Yeah. All right, give us a full shot, Brian.

There we go. Yeah, well, girls are mean.

They do. Guys get a lot of shit, but we bust balls and yeah, we can say some things out of turn sometimes, but girls are even meaner.

Were you bullied at school?

I wasn't bullied. Thankfully, I wasn't bullied. Why would I be bullied?

Why would you be bullied? You must have had something. What did they call you? What did they tease you for?

Nothing at all. Let me speak.

All right.

I had bad skin, but I wasn't bullied because of it. That was more a me thing. Like, I thought everyone was staring at me and judging me, but they weren't.

So you're talking about a bit of acne spots and stuff.

So that's where the kids get it from.

I believe you suffered as well.

I had a few spots as a kid.

I did have another trait. But I don't know if I want to say.

What is it? No, I don't think I want to say.

Known as having this.

Having what? But, like, I wasn't bullied. Now my eyes are watering, but I.

Don'T want to say.

It's coming back. We'll just bloody say it.

I had small, pointy boobs. They were really pointy and people used to comment, but it wasn't, like, bullying. I wasn't bullied because of my pointy breast.

Pointy boobs. All right. Anyway, I didn't know you were going to say that. Harrington and Brian, jump back on, please. Were you guys Harrington? I imagine, Harrington, that you were the victim of some bullying.

I was a bully, actually, so I'm on. Yeah, dude.

Goodness, Harrington, shame on you.

It's not good. It's not good. I do not want to pass that on to.

Why were you such a menace? I don't know, man.

I think it ultimately comes to just low self confidence, low self respect, whatever. It's like you just find an external target and it's like, with that guy, make me feel a little bit know.

Brian McKay, being seven foot tall yourself.

So I wasn't big until high. Like, I grew, like, 2ft in two years. It was pretty crazy.

But, yeah, I was never bullied.

I was just, like, quiet and kept to myself. I had some friends. I don't know, there was dickheads around, but I just didn't associate with anybody like that.

I think what I was trying to say before is that, listen, I think.

Growing up as a teenager, and maybe.

It is a little different because obviously social media wasn't around when I was.

A kid, but you got to have.

Thicker skin, you know what I'm saying?

I think, if anything, it probably beneficial.

In some ways to get teased a little bit.

You know what I mean?

Because you can't go through life being totally unchallenged.

It depends what kind of personality you have. What about you? Were you bullied?

Yeah, of course I was bullied loads.

Why are we bullied?

Bullied because the family. I didn't have good clothes.

You know what I mean? My shoes were falling apart because I was a loud mouth dickhead.

We were late for school every day. For some reason, kids used to bully me and tease me about that. We never had the money. Then we got to high school and I was bullied because of my older two brothers, because Conrad and Stephen had beat the shit out of some younger kids. So then they saw me as revenge. So we're not talking bullied.

We're talking proper beat up, do you.

Know what I mean? Like getting the shit kicked out of me, not going, I've got a big.

Forehead, a five head.

No, I'm talking about getting my ass kicked. Do you know what I mean?

And did you ever bully anyone?

I was never a bully.

But looking back, in hindsight, maybe I.

Teased them a bit too hard and thinking I was having a laugh.

That's what I was going to say. I don't think you would ever intentionally bully someone to make them feel bad about themselves or to make you feel better. I think you get carried away in the moment and you're trying to be funny and you take it too far.

I have moments of that for sure and I still think about them to this day. Like things that I said in junior high school to somebody. This one girl, oh my God, I made her cry on the bus and I will never forget it. And oh my God, about it every.

Day to this day as well.

Oh, it makes me feel so bad every time I think about it.

Yeah, no, I've definitely done things I regret, said things I regret. I always think back to this one.

Kid and what was his name?

I forget his name now, bless him.

And I was having a laugh with.

Him, but I'm very physical and I gave him like a slap on the back.

Do you know what we were talking about?

I said, come on and give him a slap on the back. And then the games teacher ran out, Mr. Jones.

And he did not, about Mr. Jones.

Come out and he was disgusted by. Said, you ever put your hand on him again? I was like, I wasn't putting my hand on him.

Why did you do that?

Come Ray.

Do you know what I mean? But it was harder than that. But that made me feel awful because I was like, that wasn't my attention. I was like being.

Treating him as one of the guys. Being jovial.

Yeah, being overly jovial.

There it is.

Did he have a problem with it or was it just the teacher?

I don't think he had a problem.

With it until the teacher highlighted it and then maybe he twisted it and manipulated to go, yeah, I'm a victim.

Yeah, there was no victims back then.

Really?

We were talking about eighty s and.

Ninety s. Yeah, there was no victims.

But that's what I'm saying. Like this girl here getting a bloody forehead chopped off or getting a new hairline, grow a fringe, put up with it. You're a pretty girl. There's a lot of people out there. Like my mom, for example. She contracted polio as a young child. She spent years in a hospital, then she was in a wheelchair forever. Then she walked with a really bad limp forever. Couldn't play sports or anything like that. And I'm sure she was teased and bullied and she's never mentioned it, but.

If she could do something about it, I'm sure she would have.

Oh, she would have done. Yeah, exactly.

So what's the difference?

It's a fucking hairline.

It's not a big issue causing her.

Stress if that's her choice. If she wants to spend nine k on changing her forehead, then that's her business.

Well, let's take a boat.

We all do our own stuff to make ourselves feel better.

I've got a prosthetic eye, right, of which I'm going in for an appointment tomorrow for a new one to be made.

I'm wearing a hat. No, you're wearing a hat.

That is a five head for sure.

Oh, yeah, for sure. I got a big old forehead.

I'll tell you what, though. Let me just, before we move on, real quick, the comment section.

I just go straight to the comments. I don't even read the articles anymore.

Rumor has it they call her three head now. I heard she has dreams in IMax.

Let's have a look.

She went from mega mind to nevermind.

Yeah, there was a couple of good ones before mega mind. A sniper's dream. A fringe would have been cheaper.

Correct?

Poor woman. I can't understand how everyone here can be so mean. I hope the woman is sleeping soundly.

On her gigantic pillar tonight.

Anyway, the comments never. They never failed.

Are you leaving?

In a minute.

Yeah.

You got to go. I got to go to say that.

Because that was my input on bullying.

Right, okay. She was never bullied.

Other than having perky tits.

They were very perky. And I literally never bullied anyone.

I just want to say that. I don't know, I bet you could be quite bitchy.

Yeah, behind their backs.

Exactly.

That's different. That's different.

I would never. You're muted, Harrington.

I was going to say, did you ever do the classic girl bullying, which is like, you call your friend and then you call the third girl on a three way and get her to talk shit about the first girl who's.

On the other end of the line?

That's classic girl bullying.

That's vindictive.

What movies have you watched?

Mind games? No, it wasn't as deep. We just were a bit bitchy behind each other's backs, but to the face.

Perfect.

Of course.

It's like me in a restaurant because we're English. Where were we recently? I was eating.

You were bad.

And it was bad. It was like, so tough and chewy. It was like an old shoe. And then they came over. I said, oh, delicious.

So great.

It's great.

Thank you so much.

Come on. Anyway, go and get Lucas.

Bye, guys.

We might bring you back for another segment if I get bored of Harrington.

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He came out and he's done an updated list.

I believe I'm corrected. This is ranked the heavyweight, basically. And he even went as so far in his words, not mine, to call.

Jones a paper champion.

Harrington, have you got the details there?

Yeah, I can pull up the exact quote here. He said John Jones, he did it in tiers. So he said the top tier is Tom astronaut by himself. He said the second. He said the goat, but the number two heavyweight in the world. He said, I'll use some verbiage here that some might not like, but let's keep it real. Jones is a paper champion of the UFC's heavyweight division. He didn't beat the previous champion, Francin Gannon, to win the belt. He won a vacant title over Cyril.

Gone.

Whose most championship caliber win is arguably over junior dos Santos in the final fight of Dosantos'UFC career.

All right, so that sounds kind of.

Harsh, but I guess he is just.

Outlining some facts, right? Those are facts. He didn't beat Nganu. He did beat Cyril Garn. Cyril Garn is a formidable fighter.

Some might say a little one dimensional.

I'm not saying that, but he's definitely a really high level striker and probably a bit mediocre with the other stuff. Paper champion seems a bit of a harsh assessment. I understand what he's saying, though, because Tom Aspinall is out there fighting heavyweights his entire career in the UFC. He's just blown through everybody. Barring that, Curtis, what's his name?

Curtis Blades.

Unfortunate scenario where he blew his knee get. Again, this just furthers the commentary and the discussion that these two have to fight at some point. Which, again, is why I find it kind of surprising that Jones just said.

Yeah, maybe we'll do it one day, maybe we won't.

Well, I mean, it's, know, whenever the word paper champ gets thrown, know, it is harsh criticism. But you have to look at the divisions where something like this has happened in the. You know, Johnny Hendrix didn't save the welterweight title. Robbie Lawler did. Right? He won the belt. Then he had the war against, know, like the Carlos Condit fight. All of, like, legitimized that belt once again. After George St. Pierre left, John Jones came in, beat the last guy that Francis Nganu beat, and then hasn't defended the belt again. I don't know how you can call that. And I think the bigger thing that sticks out in my mind who would you as a heavyweight, right? Your first heavyweight fight, who would you be more nervous fighting? Cyril gone or Sergey Pavlovich? Who Tom Aspinall won the belt off of?

Yeah, but again, and I'm not here.

To defend Jones, right?

I'm not. But let's look at the details. He beat Silgar to become the champ, okay?

Because the championship was vacant then.

He was going to fight stipe Miyachic, right, who was known as the greatest of all time, right, because he's got.

The most defenses and then he gets injured.

Mixed martial arts is a bitch of a sport to prepare for. The fight's the easy part. The preparation and the camps are the hard part. I'm not defending know, we all know. Everyone says, I've got a hard arm for Tom Aspirin. He's a great guy. He's an incredible fighter. But you got to call the facts for what they are. Injuries are a part of the sport and he got injured and he's got to come back.

You know what I mean? So I tell you what, Bret Okamoto, he better be know when he wants that interview with Bret's.

Bret's going to be in for it. He's going to have a very feisty John Jones to deal with there.

But right now, what do you say? Paper champion or not paper champion?

Look, Tom Aspinal is the one who's calling for top ranked heavyweights who are active in fighting to defend his belt. If you ask me, the real UFC heavyweight championship lives in England.

Oh, it is insane to call John Jones a paper champion considering the lineage of John Jones at this point. He's been a champion since he's been.

Like 22 years old.

You just can't say he's not legitimately the champ.

No, he's the greatest in the world.

He could wear any belt and be the champion, and legitimately.

Yeah.

It's an interesting take, Harrington. You were going to jump in, then.

Why don't we have a date for Tom Aspinal? Why don't we have a confirmed.

Yeah, we haven't even bloody got a date for steepe yet.

He's still recovering.

I'm not defending Jones, and I'm not being a company man. I'm just calling out the facts. He got injured training for a fight.

And now he's coming back. You know what I mean?

He's not even in camp yet, let alone have a date. He's still not 100% healed when he gets rust, because they always say you can't look past this opponent, you don't have multiple fights lined up.

When has that ever happened in the.

History of the UFC or in the history of high level combat sports?

That doesn't happen. You know what I mean?

So I understand your point and the reason for asking the question, but the.

Answer to it is very simple.

Yeah, but there's no. Conor McGregor already came out and said he wants to fight in June and then again in September. Like, guys talk about that all the time. I'm not hearing that from Jones. I'm not hearing, yeah, I want to fight stipe in the fall and then I'll fight you at international fight.

I feel like Jones is a little bit more tactical and based in reality when he's talking about the future, whereas people like Connor are shooting for the best case scenario of their career. Right. He didn't know he was going to go be the double champ, but he called for it and he got it and that shit happens. But it could have just as easily not.

Right.

That's a nice segue to Conor now and get off Jones because we've kind of said our pieces on that. He came out and said he wants to fight because he's doing a lot of press right now for the Roadhouse movie, which I think gets released in a few days. By all accounts, he's pretty good from what I've seen. A friend of mine, Daz Morris, went to watch it. He got invited down to the premiere, said it's decent, said McGregor's pretty good in it. So congrats to him and everybody involved. But because of that, he's doing a lot of media. And he was asked.

He said hopefully he's still hoping for.

Mike Chandler in June.

That's what he said.

I was hoping for a December date, then a January date, then it keeps getting pushed back. Then I lose interest and I stop.

Training for a while.

Not stop training, I'm always training. But stop full training and start drinking a little bit. So I'm going to go back, regroup, get full tested and get ready to rock. The date's going to come and then I'll be ready to rock.

Look, listen, I hope so. I hope so. But until we see him with a date lined up, I'd take it over.

The pitch of salt, to be honest. You know what I'm saying? He's cracked the code, he's made the money.

We've been over this a million times. Is he ever going to fight again?

Is a better question. Is he ever going to fight again?

I hope so. I do.

I think mma is a better place.

With him involved, but he doesn't need to.

And for everything that he know, if we're not seeing a fight or a date materialize.

Yeah.

So I don't know. It's almost know. It's a symbiotic relationship.

Right.

The UFC can keep, you know, Conor McGregor is going to come back this year, and Conor McGregor can keep saying, hey, I'm going to come back next year, and then gets all the headlines as the quote, unquote, biggest star in the UFC, even though he hasn't been in the Octagon since 2021.

He is the biggest star.

Pretty good deal.

He is the biggest star in the UFC. But, you know, Connor, he likes to stay in the conversations. Every time there's a finite or a pay per view, he's tweeting away. He inserts himself into the conversations, does a great job of keeping himself relevant. Not that he even has to do that. His star is so big, he doesn't need to put out tweets and stuff like that to remain relevant. He's Conor mcGregor. That's all he needs to do. I want to see him back in there. He's saying Nate Diaz. He's saying a trilogy or a quadrilogy with Dustin Poirier and a fight with Chandler.

That's three big fights there.

Three big fights.

I mean, if I'm Conor McGregor, you want those fights. You want to find Nate Diaz and close the book.

You want to fight Michael. Sorry, Dustin Poirier. Because the last two times didn't go well. One time you got knocked out. The second time you were trending towards a knockout, and then you broke your.

Leg getting knocked out.

I mean, and then, of course, Michael Chandler, they've got to close that chapter.

So three big fights and that might be it. He's what, 36 now?

36, something like that.

36.

37 even.

So he's getting up there anyway. Fair play to him.

And well done on the movie.

Have you seen it, Harrington? No, it doesn't.

It comes out, I think, next week. I know that because he went on Sydney Sweeney's Instagram when she posted, her movie comes out on the 22nd. And he responded, mine comes out the 21st.

Sydney Sweeney. I was not aware of this name until very recently. Now I'm seeing her name everywhere. I'm seeing her boobs everywhere as well.

She's a very attractive lady.

Fair play to her. Wish her all the success in the world, right? So do we talk about Mike Tyson and his training footage against Drake Paul? Or do we talk about Paddy Pimblet saying that he's going to call out.

What do you think?

I think Iron Mike. Anytime Iron Mike is the possible topic of conversation, I want to talk about Iron Mike.

Well, it's interesting, isn't it? We've been talking about Jake Paul a lot recently, so I don't want to sit here and talk crap. We made our feelings clear on that. I think it's insane. In fact, even Dana White, this morning, he posted a picture on his Instagram story, Jake Paul's next opponent, and it was Clint Eastwood after Mike Tyson, which I get. Clint Eastwood, 75 or 78 or 80 even. God knows how old he is.

But Mike Tyson's been training and he does look good, right? And I do believe, listen, even though he's old and even though a doctor.

Just came out, I did a video on this on my YouTube channel. A doctor just came out and said, mike Tyson's danger, pardon me, of a.

Subdural hematoma where the blood vessels in the brain will rip.

Something like that. I'm not a doctor.

Of course.

Anytime a boxer steps foot in the.

Ring, it's always dangerous.

For a fighter, it's always dangerous. UFC, mMa, boxing, whatever. But at 58, those chances are increased.

Also says with an alcohol problem, that can make that the danger heightened. But again, there's always danger there, and.

A lot of fighters like to drink as well. It's the 58 years old stuff. But that said, take a look at this footage.

Here's looking good. All right, listen, I'll tell you this.

Jake Paul's never fought anybody like that. He hasn't fought anybody with that kind of punch power. He hasn't fought anybody with that kind of aggression or that movement. The signature Mike Tyson movement, the slipping, the head movement, the footwork, the getting on the inside and all the rest of it. Power is the last thing to go.

So I do still believe that even though he's 58, I still believe he's got a potential to maybe knock Jake Paul out.

He does think he got three rounds in him. I think that's more than enough, because.

I'll tell you what, I could get.

In shape now at 45 to do.

Ten rounds of boxing, twelve rounds of boxing, or five rounds of MMA.

I could.

How successful I would be at the highest level, I don't know, but I know I could get in shape to.

Do it, be a pain in the ass, but I could do it right. Can you do that at 58? I just don't know.

I really don't know.

But he's a special kind of human being.

But the thing is, that doesn't give.

Jake Paul propped for doing that.

He's still 58. He's still not the Mike Tyson that he was, which is what he's trying.

To sell to the younger people. I'm stepping in there with Mike Tyson.

Except for the considerable amount of money to gain. This is a lose lose situation for.

Jake Paul, without question. I mean, what is he going to do?

Is he actually going to go out.

There and try and knock him out cold? You're going to try and knock out Mike Tyson, a man that's almost 60? Come on, dick move.

That's Dick, right?

Or are you going to get knocked out by a man that's almost 60? I don't know, man.

Not a good look.

You look at those old videos of custom auto, like, at the end of his life, and that dude could definitely throw hands. So, I mean, I don't know how old he was, but I'm sure he was pushing 60.

Probably much older than that Mike Davis.

Who we were talking about recently. Mike Davis started training with custom auto when he was 14 years old.

No way. You can see that.

You can see that in his style and his ability. So, anyway, whatever. We don't bang on about Jake Paul. I do like to talk about Mike.

Tyson, though, but still, it remains to.

Be seen what happens in that.

All right, give me the lowdown on Paddy Pimbler.

So, Patty Pimbler came out. He said that he needs a couple more months. They were talking about him possibly fighting on 300 or on the rio card. He said, my kid's going to be way too young then. I think he's expecting twins, if I'm not mistaken, and they're due out right around that time. So he said, I saw something the other day on Twitter that I'm meant to be fighting Moikano at 301. No, my kids will be about two weeks old. I'm not fighting him that soon. I'm not going to be fighting until June or July, but that is who I want next. Hanato Moikano.

Money.

Moikano, you owe me money, lad.

I'm coming for you, you little sausage. Well, hold on, moy channel's got an opponent, right?

Moikano's got Jalen Turner at UFC 300. So I don't know what Patty's talking about.

Are you sure it's Jalen Turner?

I'm 99% sure.

I could have swore it was somebody else, but look it up.

Look it up if it is Jalen.

Respect to Hanato Moikano, that was the last fight.

It was announced during the UFC 299 broadcast.

Oh, was it really?

Okay? Maybe I was too busy just focusing.

You know what I mean? Understandable. Well, Paddy Pimblet, I mean, of course, he had that close one with Jared. Then he had a convincing victory over Tony Ferguson. But of course, it was the shell of Tony Ferguson.

And I don't say that to be mean to Paddy, and I don't mean it to be disrespectful to Tony Ferguson. By the way, Tony Ferguson on Rampage's.

Podcast just recently said he ain't retiring.

Said he has got no intention of retiring, and he still feels like he's.

Got a championship running him. That's what he was saying, which, again, fighters, you need protecting from yourselves, because.

He still feels like that. And fair play. He went the distance with Paddy Pimbler.

Who'S a good fighter, you know what I mean?

Probably feels he could have made some adjustments. I think he said that he was injured as well, but apparently Paddy's saying he's injured now as well. He's potentially got some torn labrums or something in his shoulders.

I'd like to see Paddy fight a little more regularly.

I think he's got to fight a little more frequently. I think if he was injured, fair enough. If that's true, it's true.

You know what I mean?

Seems to be quite injury prone, if that is the case.

However, again, injuries happen, but Moikano is.

A logical step up. That's where I was going with this.

Moikano is a ranked opponent. Moikano's on a roll.

He just beat Drew Dober. He's had some good wins.

He's got a good personality, and they've.

Been talking shit as well.

However, Moikano loses to Jalen Turner.

I think the relevance of that matchup.

Would kind of not exist anymore if.

He loses to Jalen. I mean, he still, at that point, would be, he's 13 ranked right now. So you got to figure, I mean, Drew Dober is at 15. He probably has cushion to fall back as far as 15. If Moikano is your entrance into the rankings, that still is maybe worth it for Patty Pemblick, because I don't know. I don't see anybody else who's hanging out around the end of that top 15 who looks like it'd be a nice day at the office for Patty Pemblitt.

No, I agree with what you're saying, but generally, I think if you look at the pattern, they put winners against winners and losers against losers. That's not a hard and fast rule. It's not the blueprint, but generally, that's what they like to do. You know what I mean? But we'll see.

What do you think?

If they were to throw down, who would you favor?

I'll be honest with you. It's hard for me to find anybody in the top 15 who I'm going to say Patty Pimblet can beat just from what I've seen up to this point. But who knows, dude, he has proven I've been on the wrong side of some patty pimblet tickets more times than I can.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, we'll see what happens. Monet, Moikano. Love that guy. All right, what else do we have here before we get to some questions, in fact, let's do a non MMA story. There's three good ones here.

There's three good ones.

Let's start with number two, because I saw this being discussed on the news.

This morning, and I had some thoughts.

I wish I was on the panel on the news, but I wasn't. But I thought, I've got a podcast.

We can talk about it there.

As a producer, I can just call the news station and be like, hey, I got a great guy in your backyard who wants to come by the station.

Be sick.

All right, so teenagers, they're essentially using Meta's platforms to be able to score illicit substances, right? So people can go on Instagram and type in the hashtag MDMA dealer or MDMA near me or for sale or whatever the case may be, and they'll be funneled into these users who are doing just that. They're selling illicit drugs. Any number of different things you can put in the search bar, and it'll pop up. And that's across both Instagram and Facebook. Now, people are saying that the platform knows about this, but they don't want to do anything about it because it's creating interaction, it's creating engagement.

So they don't want to.

Direct sales program.

What do you mean, the direct sales program? Oh, my God, here we go. Trying to have an intelligent conversation.

I am. I mean, the biggest drug dealers in the country are literally the.

Yeah.

And Facebook and meta are, like, in bed with them. This is just the next.

Well, we'll just.

Without taking that into consideration, because I.

Don'T think the children that are putting.

Hashtag MDMA are in bed with the CIA, okay?

I don't think they're covert agents.

Weirdest shit has happened.

Okay, I know, but I'm just going to go out on a limb and say, I don't think old Johnny two seven nine selling meth, speed and MDMA to whoever can get it from Snapchat or elsewhere, is in bed with the CIA. So on the news, they were saying, listen, the police need to get involved. And I think they do. The police could monitor the situation. But also, I do find it kind of weird how social media companies do allow this to happen. And I've seen some terrible stories about children. They're having fentanyl overdoses and stuff, because street drugs, even if they're just looking for opioids or whatever the case may be, they're slaced with all kinds of nasty, horrible shit. And fentanyl is a big problem right now.

But I just thought during COVID times, if you said anything against the general.

Approach that was censored, if you show that, if you show any naked shots, that gets censored. Darren Till is always having his Instagram taken down. People struggle with that all the time.

So they have the ability to stop that. You know what I mean?

They have the ability to stop any kind of.

Know, any kind of, quote unquote hate speech.

But they can't use the same kind.

Of barriers to stop children selling drugs whilst they're advertising.

That's the part that I don't understand.

This kind of feels like what happened when Xi Jinping came to San Francisco and they shipped out all the homeless people and cleaned up the streets for a week. It's like, oh, we could actually do this, no problem. This could actually get done, but they just choose not to do it.

Not directly relevant again, but I understand the point what you're making. I do. Let's try and keep it on board, keep it on track.

But it's like government bodies or governing bodies. Not government, but governing bodies. They could easily do these things. It's just not good for investors. So if you have a board to answer to, you're never looking at the humanity of what your business is. You're looking at just numbers.

5%.

Yeah, but generally.

Generally.

Listen, places and platforms like that, which are massive and multi multibillion dollar companies, they don't want to be associated with people selling drugs, illegal street drugs on their platform, and turning a blind eye. And I'm not trying to bloody get us thrown off Google or Facebook or whatever the hell it is, but I feel like more can be done to protect young children. It's young kids, for the most part, that are buying these drugs and having fentanyl overdoses and stuff. And it's just absolutely heartbreaking if they.

Can put in protocols to have Darren.

Till flagged for whatever it is that he's saying.

If they can have.

What's some other ones?

People are always getting banned temporarily, you know what I mean?

And kicked off, not Twitter. You can do whatever you want on Twitter these days, but on Facebook and Instagram and stuff like that, people are getting banned for saying controversial stuff if they can have the protocols in place to catch that shit. Because I guarantee nobody there isn't a.

Person monitoring Darren till's Instagram. Do you know what I mean?

Sure. But I'm sure Darren Till also has trolls who don't like him who will just hit report on every questionable thing that he puts up, and then now it's in front of meta's eyes. Whereas, like, I don't think anybody's reporting their drug dealer.

It's like soft know.

Yeah, kinda just people with you because.

You'Re a public figure.

Because he's getting grasped on, basically.

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean, people with you just because you're a public figure, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, no, they do. But I've never been banned off Instagram. I've never even had a strike or a warning, do you know what I mean?

Because your Instagram is above board. You're a little more clean cut and polished than Darren till. Darren till just takes some wild swings every now and then.

Who else is there? Who else is like a common one.

For getting banned on Instagram? I don't know.

I'm friends with comedians, so pretty much all my friends, like, you can't tell jokes on Instagram, that's for sure legal.

Like, for example, Lewis. Lewis is always getting kicked off YouTube, isn't he?

Yeah, there's a bit of that.

Yeah, they've definitely lost a few channels over there at.

Yeah, yeah, they're always ever to. I keep seeing it. We're back on the YouTube or whatever. Anyway, don't buy drugs off Instagram.

Guys don't buy drugs. How about that? Do you know what I'm saying?

That's the official bym stance on it.

Well, listen, as you're growing up as a young man or a woman, you're going to be curious and it's kind of a rite of passage, you know what I'm saying? Kids experiment with drugs and they go out and they have a good time and they get surrounded by friends and all the rest of it, and they're all doing it, so they get involved. And some really have a pawn shop for it and they enjoy it and they make it a part of their lifestyle. And some people just experiment and think that's not good for me. But in this day and age, man, in this day and age, you're rolling.

The dice in a major way.

So they do sell mobile testing kits. And that was the only thing I was going to say. Versus like, rather than the abstinence only approach. Right. Which led to teen pregnancy throughout the think it's time to pivot that way with drugs where it's like, guys, look, if you're going to do it, be safe. Carry a testing strip with you at all times because those things are super cheap.

I was going to say, dude, you can't get kids to wear condoms. You for sure can't get me to do a chemistry experiment before I go get high.

The kids are not going down to CVs or the local chemist and buying.

A testing kit, and then they're going.

To go see Johnny on the corner. Then they're going to buy whatever. Then they're going to tell they're not.

Going to see Johnny on the corner. They're going to see Johnny on Instagram, who lives six doors down from them.

And they're going to meet him on the corner. They're going to meet him on the corner.

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Anyway, tell me about the police in.

Toronto, because this is quite frankly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.

So the cops in Toronto, they've seen a rash of home break ins, right? So their idea to combat that is they said just leave your key fob to your car outside because then they won't have to break in your house and rob you. They only want your car.

Just give them your car.

This is unbelievable. This is just like how the canadian health care system is also telling people to kill themselves if they're.

What? You can't just say that just like a throwaway.

No.

It's been in the news for quite a while. The Canadian Health service has a kill yourself program and they've been recommending it for sadness, for depression, for poverty.

Go for it.

So there's a Paralympian, right? There's a paralympian Canadian who was medal. I think she won like a bronze or something as part of the government health services. They need to build a ramp for her new house so she can get in and out on her wheelchair. They said it's going to take so long for us to come out there and complete the ramp. And they gave her a list of other possible solutions and on that list was euthanasia.

No.

Yes, dude.

Yes.

Like Canada's backwards right now. And that's for real.

Yeah, no, it is for sure.

Listen, sorry, it's going to take a while.

Our backlog of joiners and builders, they got a lot of work on right now, so you might want to consider killing yourself.

Jesus Christ.

And by the way, if you're sick of getting broken into, just leave your.

Car on the driveway.

It's the same kind of thought process. It's insane.

Yeah, no, that's just insane. And everything seems to go political, so I don't want to get into all that. But that is just insane. It goes back to before about the.

Bloody woman with the five head getting the surgery deal with the bloody little bit of insults.

It's a rite of passage growing up. Just like buying dodgy drugs.

Right? But don't. Do not leave your car keys outside on the porch that people can steal.

And what kind of government is advising.

To do that because they're too lazy to police the neighborhoods properly?

Lazy, broke. Yeah. Understaffed.

It's all that.

Jesus. It's insane. I'm not an expert on that stuff, though. And I'm not an expert on this one. We'll go for the trifecta on MMA. Now, this kind of plays into what I was saying before, that all the actors and the Hollywood elites aren't pedophiles. But, Harrison, you put this in the notes.

I was a big fan of Liz.

Hurley back in the day.

I'm still a big fan of her. You should pull up this article, Brian. She is still looking pretty darn good. So, Elizabeth Hurley, she's starring in a new movie, and it's made, like a ton of waves over the weekend. It went super viral because it is written and directed by her 21 year old son. And he was behind the director's chair while they were filming a soft core erotic scene with another actress doing, like, some heavy lesbian petting.

I'll pay to go see this flick.

I will see this film. She's a beautiful woman. Rebecca's gone to pick up Lucas. So I can get away with that. No, Liz Hurley. Come on. Because she's a very beautiful lady.

All right, say again? Favorite Liz Hurley.

What do you mean, favorite Liz Hurley?

Like, favorite movie, favorite era, favorite.

What do you think?

I could just rhyme off a bunch of Liz Hurley pictures.

I've seen Harrington. What do you mean?

Yeah, I know. Bedazzled. All of it.

She's a schoolteacher. She's the devil. It's all the sexy Liz Hurley. All right, whatever.

Do you think?

I've seen a movie called bedazzled.

It's got Brendan Fraser.

It's incredible.

I have not. And in fact, I'm trying to think of a single Liz Hurley film that I've seen.

I can't think of powers. There you go. Austin Powers, right?

Yeah, I've seen that. She looked fit in it. That's about it. You know what I mean? Austin Powers is hilarious, by the way. No, listen, it's a bit weird. It is a bit weird that the 21 year old son is directed her.

In a porn scene. It was not a porn scene, like a sex scene.

It sounds bad on paper, and it might be a little bit weird. I mean, I guess the thing is.

He'S an aspiring writer director whatever.

They come up with the script.

His mom's Liz Hurley. If Liz Hurley's in it, that will.

Probably allow some company to finance the.

Film so it can get made. I guess they didn't have to.

They could have rewrote it so the mom wasn't doing the sex scene. But maybe that was it. Maybe that's what greenlit the movie. Maybe that's why they got the finances. Like, listen, if you're the director, you got to direct me. But that would be a bit of a weird situation. It was bad enough Rebecca just saying that she got bullied for having perky tits. Imagine if I said, lucas got a job for you. You've got to direct. Well. Oh, well, I can't wait to see it. Sounds like a brilliant film.

Right before we lose, everybody and everyone's.

Like, Jesus, can Anthony just get back? Do we have any other MMA stories.

Before we get to questions?

So I thought this was kind of interesting. Islam Makachev, he says that he was, in fact, offered the 170 pound title shot for UFC 300. He said he came back to Ali Abdulziz and asked if they could move the event by two weeks so that he'd be able to fight on it. Ali came back and said, absolutely not. That's not going to be possible. Islam said that he is still very interested in going up to fight for the 170 pound title, and he hopes he didn't miss it just because this fight is happening. I think two weeks after Ramadan ends.

Yeah, no, I saw he said that.

And he also said that he wants to fight Dustin Poyer. Yeah, he did.

Justin Gagey wasn't happy with me.

Did you see him tweet at me? Yeah.

I'm trying to remember exactly what he said, but I did.

See, talking, know, fair play. Listen, Justin's ahead of Dustin. Of course he is.

I was just saying, Justin Gage is fighting Max Holloway. Right? Leon wants to fight.

You've got a fight against Max. More than likely he wins that fight.

I would say. Right, but he might get banged up.

He might break a hand, he might break a finger, he might roll his ankle, he might get beat up, he might get a broken nose. You just never know what happens in a fight. So because of that, because Dustin Poyer is pretty much relatively ready to rock right now, that might be the only reason he got ahead of Justin Gagey. Wasn't me dismissing Justin Gagey as a contender. The man deserves it 100%. But Islam wants to fight Leon Edwards.

Of course.

That would be a monumentous occasion. Of course he wants to be a two weight division champion and he probably looks at him as an opponent that he thinks he can use his wrestling in and be advantageous.

But yeah, I mean, what more is there to say?

So it seems like Islam really wants to get two fights in this year. It seems like he really wants one over the summer. And then you have to assume at this point every year he's going to be on the Abu Dhabi card if they go back, which we all kind of have that in our minds for how the scheduling is going to work. So I'm looking at UFC 303 June 29 and that seems one where it's like circle that. If Justin Gaiche gets out of this Max Holloway fight and he thinks he's going to be ready to go by the end of June, then yes, of course Justin should get the next shot.

But if he's not, I guarantee Dustin.

Porier would be ready to show up by June 29 for that fight.

Well, be careful because Gagey will come for you and accuse you of talking bollocks. That's all I was saying. Like, Gagey knocked out Dustin Porier.

Of course he deserves it more, but for all the reasons we just said.

Maybe it doesn't happen either way. I would like to see either of them fight.

You know, it'd be interesting.

Yeah, they both lost to Habib.

Islam isn't habib.

He's a very, very similar fighter.

In fact, he might even be more effective.

He might even have better striking and he might even eventually go down and have that resume. I think a better question, a better discussion point is this.

Let's just assume, and this is a hard assumption, but let's assume that Islam Makachev wins his next five fights, which isn't hard as the champion, but he's.

Got that one loss on his record.

Would he be more highly regarded than Habib, who retired at 29 and but.

Only really took on the elite competition for his last few fights? Again, no disrespect to Habib, but I said that before. I said, that's why I used to.

Have John Jones above Habib, because Habib.

What did he do?

He did Dustin, Justin, Conor. Before that, it was kind of like.

People like Michael Johnson and stuff, which.

Again, great fighters gave great fighters, but not the top of the food chain. Whereas Islam now won the belt of.

Alaykinta, whereas now Islam, he's beaten Volk.

Twice, he's beating Charles Oliveira.

There's other great wins on there as well.

If he can go on another massive.

Stretch and become a two weight division.

Champion to beat Dustin, Justin, Olivera, Saruki.

And all those people, and go through.

Every bloody goddamn contender, would he have.

A bigger legacy than Habib?

Or does the fact that Habib was undefeated trump the opponent? You understand what I'm saying?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to come down to UFC longevity at that point, right? So Khabib had. He only had twelve fights in the UFC, right? I think Islam has got to be past that by now, if I'm not mistaken, because he was a contender on the rise with a pretty long unbeaten streak for quite some time there. So already the cage time accrued is greater for Islam. If he gets wins over Dustin and Justin, that means that they've defended against two of the same people. And if you do add in that Oliveira, who was probably the next best guy, who next in line for Khabib when he did retire. It really is tough to make an argument.

Yeah, but the thing is that one loss, man, and it was a knockout loss as well.

That probably eats away at the soul. Adriano Martins. Who's Adriano Martins?

You know what I mean? Just goes to show, one shot can.

Change everything early in the fight as know.

Do you think who would be the guy to beat Islam?

Makachev, because it could be Justin Gagey. Right. It could be Dustin Poirier, but unlikely, given the fights with Khabib.

Do you know who I think probably has the best chance? And again, this is no disrespect to Justin or Dustin. They could go out there, they could knock him out. I just said Adriano Martinez was able to do that. We're all human beings. Anything's possible. But if I was to look at.

Skill sets on paper, Armand Sarukian. Yeah. And I think he beat. He fought Islam before, but I think.

It was on relatively short.

On.

I believe it was Sarukian's, like, debut in the UFC as well. So it was one of those things where he was just a guy who was around and that's how he got into the UFC was by facing a killer like Islam on like two weeks.

Yeah, yeah.

Islam on two weeks notice, went to.

A decision with him. But then since then, he has got so much better. I mean, look at that fight against Benil Dariush. Unbelievable. And who's he fighting? Who's he? Olivera. Olivera? Yeah. Yeah.

It's a fun time to be an MMA fan, certainly, if you like the lightweights.

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All right, guys, first question we got here today is from Mr. Ryan Yorkston.

Ryan Yorkston.

Hey bym pod Ryan here from sunny Scotland.

A question for Michael and Anthony.

Just curious as to what your thoughts on the point of weight classes. And what I mean is really when.

You look at people like Paolo Costa, he fights in the 185 pound division, but when he gets in the octagon, he's 215 pounds. Now, he's only actually at that middleweight limit for probably about five minutes on Friday afternoon when he's weighing in. So what's the point of the weigh in if, say, Powell cost us 215 pounds, but Robert Whitaker might only be 100 and 9200 pounds. So I don't really understand that.

But maybe you guys will be able.

To tell me better. Love the podcast. Thank you. Well, thank you very much.

And look, listen, I understand what you're saying, but the reality is 24 hours before the fight, or 36 hours, whatever.

The case may be, you agree to.

Be a certain weight, okay? And that's up to the fighter. Then individually, what they want to do to get to that weight. Some fighters want to cut a lot of weight. Some fighters want to be more to their natural weight, and there's always a.

Give and a take. You know what I'm saying?

So the people that cut a lot of weight, like Paolo Costa, and then go back into the oxygon afterwards, that allows them the advantage of being bigger and stronger. But it also comes with a price. You're going to get tired quicker.

Throughout.

The training camp, by the way, as well. You're going to probably be running at a calorie deficiency because you're trying to slim down and make weight.

You're also not going to have the.

Ability to take a punch as well.

It's as simple as that.

Al Jermaine Sterling said it recently, I know when I've cut weight. I didn't take shots very well. A lot of the time when you cut an incredible amount of water weight, it affects your ability to take a punch. However, you're going to be bigger, you're going to be stronger, and earlier in the fight, you're definitely going to be an advantage. The smaller guy that hasn't gone through those weight guts, his cardio is going to be better. He's not sacrificing himself in training camp.

He's having all the nutrients, the carbohydrates.

Everything that he needs to fuel his body, and also to recover from the training sessions as well. So there's a give and take. In the earlier parts of the fight.

He'Ll have an advantage for sure, but.

As the fight progresses, he's going to slow down, he's going to get tired.

And he's not going to be able.

To take a punch as well. Ultimately, it's down to you.

If you can make the weight, then.

Make the weight, and there's no issue. However you want to go about making that weight.

That's down to the fighter.

That's down to the fighter. Because think about it like this. Even guys that don't necessarily cut weight, they'll probably still be cutting a little.

Bit of weight in the morning of, but by the time they get into.

The octagon, they're not that weight. They have to have a weigh in at some point.

You know what I mean?

Now, you could say, let's do weighing.

On the day of the fight, but.

It comes from the boxing world. It's always kind of been like that in professional combat sports. You have the weighing the day before, and that's just the way it always is.

If you look at boxing, for example.

They don't have the history of cutting weight like mixed martial artists, and that trend comes from the wrestling world. Wrestlers have often cut a lot of weight for those reasons. Now, wrestling is a much shorter sport, I think three two minute rounds, if I'm not mistaken, so they don't feel.

That quite as much.

However, wrestling is a ridiculously intense sport as well, so there's a give and know, but it all depends on the individual of what kind of sacrifice they.

Want to go through to get to that weight.

So what do you think about something like California that'll come in and suspend fighters or. I'm not sure if they find fighters where it's, like, over. If you're gaining back over, it's ten or 20% of your total body weight between the weighins and fight day there is like a penalty there. Do you think that should be a wider thing?

Yeah. For a while there they were going.

To bring in a rule where I.

Think it was going to be across the border. I think even California brought it in for a while, but somehow it kind of drifted off. But I think it kind of just.

Came back in recently. Yeah, they have it.

It's always been a thing because I think Costa was on the card at the forum and they got him for that for sure.

They find him.

I'm not sure if it was a fine or if it was like a mandatory suspension. Let me take a look at that.

Yeah, I don't understand. The mandatory suspension. The mandatory suspension, if he's going to be preventative, would not allow him to compete. He's still going into the fight and you're still winning because of it even though he lost. I'm saying if you still went through that and you were able to win the fight afterwards, you're going to take a few months off anyway. So that doesn't achieve anything. I'm not against it though.

I am not against a limitation on the amount of weight that you can cut. But just like with steroids, steroids aren't allowed.

People are always going to try and find a way to cut corners. They're going to find a way to.

Cheat, you know what I mean? So this will be trying to fix a problem that most of the fighters don't have an issue with, know.

Because as I say, there's a give.

And a take to it.

And it's like, for me, when I lost against Rashad Evans, I was like, okay, I'm not making the sacrifices that.

I need to to be the best.

Fighter that I can. Rashad Evans was killing himself in the sauna. I was drinking seven up and eating.

You know, eating noodles in a chinese restaurant. Do you know what I'm saying?

And then afterwards I thought, right, maybe I'm in the wrong weight.

So if you can't beat them, join them. Next fight, I'm in a sauna suit.

Hating life and cutting weight. And I absolutely hated it.

Do you know what I was able.

And I thought I would be fighting smaller guys, but then the opponents, I remember I saw Jason day. He was my second fighter at middleweight. And I was like, I was looking up at him like, holy shit. You're supposed to be small.

The hell is going, yeah, you know, what did you find?

See, I looked it up. So California State Athletic commission has in the past given temporary suspensions. They've also, they that was a thing they did for a time where they gave strong recommendations that a fighter move from weight class x to weight class Y, like up a weight class. But for this last one, I think it was like six or seven fighters were over the 15% limit. So likely no real penalties coming from UFC 298.

Yeah, exactly. And that's kind of my point. You know what I mean? They put these kind of guidelines in.

Place, but you generally aren't going to.

Turn around and fight a month later anyway, so it's not really achieving much. It's down to the fighter. Anyway, good question. Thank you very much, Brian.

All right, so next question we have is from Gabriel Paz, and you guys gave him a roasting last time.

What's up, guys? It's Gabe from Memphis, Tennessee, again. Back with another question. After you guys violated me the first time, just roasted me into oblivion. I've forgiven you because I realized I'm the one with two eyes in the full head affair. Maybe I'm winning. Regardless, though, my question today is about the MMA guru. What do you guys think of him? I think he's hilarious. I think he's really just a reaction to the worst forms of MMA media we've seen at official UFC. Events that ask the most boring questions ever, sound like they're wrote by chat, GPT, and I imagine it's boring for you guys to be asked the questions. It's definitely boring for us to watch as fans, so we turn to people like the guru to deliver some entertainment about UFC media and UFC news. What do you guys think of them? Right before I head out, just want to let you know I'll be going to UFC 300 live and in person, first ever event. Emptied my bank account for it. I'm basically flying there on a tin can with wings, sleeping in a homeless encampment just so I could afford the tickets.

But I'm leaving for the military soon. Thought I might as well have some fun.

You guys will be there?

Would love to grab a picture real quick. And Harrington, before I head out. You didn't respond to my call last time.

It's okay.

The offer is still there. I'm a patient man. You still have some more time to not be a coward. Love it all to jokes, guys. Appreciate.

Her two eyes and a full head of her.

And this guy wants.

What did he want?

He wanted some kind of picture with me.

Jesus Christ, Harrison, you're on mute again.

He was probably going to ask you for a face off knowing that.

Yeah, I don't do. Sorry. I'm sorry. Well, thank you very much for the question, buddy. The MMA guru. Look, listen, I understand kind of what he said there. I must admit some of the questions from the media, because I listened to all the media days for research.

There is some boring questions. There is some boring questions, and you.

Get your moment, you get your chance. Ask a bloody interesting question, for crying out loud. So I understand his point in what he's saying there. The MMA guru just talks shit about everybody.

You know what?

So, you know, I don't think he's.

Out there doing an incredible media job.

He's doing his thing, he's running his YouTube channel, and he's getting people to watch it, and he just talks shit about people because that sells. That said, he's an entertaining guy. He's good at what he know. He did a video a while ago. Michael Bisping is too retarded to be a UFC commentator. So I actually responded and I just said, well, it seems like I really get under your skin. I said, well, strap yourself in, because I just signed a new four year deal. But some of his stuff's alright. I saw him doing an impression recently of Mark Goddard being interviewed or something by Cartman from South park, and I got to say, I did laugh. So I left a comment and said, that's actually hilarious because it was. It was funny, it was good. But hey, look, listen. Negativity sells negativity. Know if there's a video or a news article or whatever the case may be, where people are talking about how much of an asshole, how much of a dickhead, how much this guy doesn't belong, and all the rest of it, people are more inclined, for whatever reason. We want to hear that.

We want to hear a little controversy. We want to hear about how terrible somebody is, as opposed to somebody saying, this guy's incredible, and leaving a raving review for some reason, and I don't know why this is, and I'm sure a psychologist will be able to break it down, but I ain't no psychologist. Human beings seem to be more attractive, attracted, pardon me, to hearing about negativity than what they want to hear about positivity.

You know what I mean? Maybe it's because they can't do the.

Things that the fighter that the actor, that the TV host or the sportsman, or whatever the case may be, is doing. They can't do it. So they want to hear someone talk shit about them. I don't think that's necessarily the case, though, because people are fans of them in the first place. Maybe he humanizes them. I'm not sure what it is. So, he likes to talk shit about a lot of people. Sometimes it's warranted, sometimes it's unnecessary. But, hey, fair play to him. He's doing his thing. And, yeah, I guess that's my thoughts.

On the MMA guru, as somebody who is.

I've offered to fight. This guy hates him. He's under my skin a couple of times.

Yeah.

And he's made a couple of videos about me, and I'm nobody. So it's like, if you've sunk to the level of making videos about me, it's pretty bad out there. But I think he's kind of funny.

Hold on.

Listen, Howard. No offense, budy. No offense. No offense. I reckon the MMA guru would smash you.

Yo, bro, he's gigantic.

Listen, he's chubby, he's fat, but he's a big dude. He's like six or something like that.

He's a big old teddy bear.

He's giant.

He's not a professional fighter, but neither are you, Harry. And he's got.

I called him out for a fight.

And this guy, who's so much bigger and tougher than me, said, oh, no, I'm not fighting until I got on a misfits card. Hug KSI a little bit more, dude. Get out of say. I will say. He broke the Ian Gary story. The Ian Gary wag thing, that all came from. This whole thing came from MMA guru. So, dude, thank you for, like, four months worth of content across every different. Across everybody's MMA show. He's doing great work.

He's always saying that he's going to mog me. Whatever mog means. What is this slang term?

He's going to mog me?

I thought it was a british thing.

I thought, like, maybe it is, but I'm not familiar with it. I've lived here for 13 years now. Do you know what I mean?

If Mog means he's going to beat me up.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Do you know what I mean, bro?

Just because you're tall and you're a.

Bit overweight don't mean shit, bro.

A term popularized by modern day esthetic bodybuilders, meaning outsizing or dwarfing somebody in muscle size, fullness and definition. So he's just got a strong man.

He hasn't got the definition.

He's got the flab. He's got the flab and he's got.

The bad hair, and he's probably got the greasy skin and the body odor. They're probably the main things he could outdo me in. But fair play to him. Fair play to him. As I said, he's doing his thing. He's talking shit, whatever.

He's having a laugh.

I think he's.

No, no. As I say, I thought he. But then I've seen some of his stuff, and he did make me chuckle.

Do you know what I mean?

So, hey, fair play, fair play.

So, speaking of the wag thing, we have a question here from Abby from fight space.

Oh, she's back. What up, Abby? What's up, bym Pod? It's me, Abby, once again. And my question for the boys today, especially to the king of trash talk himself, Mr. DJ Mikey B, is I want to get your reactions to Ian Gary's clap back at Colby Covington for all of things that he said about.

Layla and the whole situation there in.

The lead up to their potential matchup in the future. What are your thoughts there? Give me your reactions. And I also want to give a quick shout out to my boy, Willis.

Barza over at House of Dragons International. He's that boy, and he's hoping to.

Get a fight soon.

We're not running a cameo service. That's the question. But then again, you were doing great. You were doing fantastic, starting with a compliment. But then you had. And I also want to give a shout out.

No. Fight queen.

Stop it.

Right?

You've been demoted. You are not a fight queen.

You are not a fight princess.

You are a fight.

A duchess. I don't know what's lower down.

Lady in waiting.

You're a bite whore. Do we have the video of Ian Gary's response? That'd be good to provide some context, Brian, if you can find that real quick. So, as we know, last episode, we went through it all.

I'll talk.

I'll fill.

Brian.

That's what I'm doing. Just a heads up, Colby came out, went nuclear, right? Talked about his wife again. He's doing it over and over and over. I said, look, listen, he should come out and say, yeah, I want to fight you. Simple as that. Essentially, Ian Gary came out, he responded and said, yeah, I've got an ultimatum for you.

Right.

We'll fight in an I quit challenge or something like that. If the first one to say I.

Quit has to leave the UFC for good, listen here, Kobe, chaos, Covington, you.

Are in no position to tell me what I should be doing in life. You'll do as you're told. You gave me three stipulations, all of which had nothing to do about fighting. But we're all talking about my wife.

Layla. Layla.

Layla.

Layla. Get on your hands and knees and beg.

I don't know how you were raised, but women aren't property, and my wife definitely ain't no trophy. You should be focusing on me. I'm the one who's in that octagon with you. I'm the one who's going to punch a hole in your head. So stop swerving me and keep layla's name out your mouth.

How many of you guys have Gary's wife?

You're not America's favorite fighter. What you are is a peak underperformer. You're the only person in UFC history to lose three world title fights, and you haven't got a single win against anybody in the top 15 right now. So, Kobe, why should I fight you? I can think of one reason. I challenge you can't. I quit.

Match.

Well, one of us has to say, I quit, and whoever says the words I quit has to retire. Gloves off, center of the octagon. Cyan Arrow, my friend. I'm going to be the final chapter in your legacy of failure. I am going to rid the UFC of Kobe Covington for good, and I'm going to make MMA great again.

Yeah. So, look, listen, I'm not going to stand here and criticize him. I'm just going to say what I would have said, which is essentially what I did do last week.

But he's skirting around the subject there.

He's saying, okay, let's do a I quit thing. Whoever loses leaves the UFC for good.

They never work.

They're never adhered to. You don't see somebody go, okay, well, that's it. I lost, and I'm a man of my word, guys. You know what I mean? I would not have been able to.

Have the composure to put that video together and say, right, here's what we'll do.

We'll do this, and we'll edit it up and sell the rest of it.

I just said, yeah, you prick.

Or 100%. You want to fight a wall? We're going to fight, buddy. We're going to fight. I've called the UFC. Simple as that. I've called the UFC. I accept your challenge, dickhead.

It's on.

It is on, man. I'm going to smash it to pieces. And then there's a good opportunity, there's.

A good potential that I come and.

Smash you at the hotel room afterwards.

Do you know what I mean?

I might smash you at the weigh ins, and I'm probably gonna punch your head in every day I see you for the rest of my life. At this point, here I am reminded of the Joe Pesci scene in Goodfellas. He says, you got my. Says, no, no.

He says, well, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to ask for my money. If you haven't got it, I'm going to smash your freaking face in. I'm going to put you in a coma.

And just about the time you're coming.

Out of a coma, I'll just begin out of prison.

And you know what I'll do?

I'll smash your face. And again, because I'm stupid and I don't give a. And that's my business, and that's how.

I roll or something like that.

Do you know what I mean? Dude, he's gone nuclear on your wife. Do you know what I mean?

That's why he's saying her name, to get that response. And it's nasty.

It's below the belt.

It should be off the table.

Trying to make the comeback somewhat entertaining and comical wouldn't have been my path.

But, hey, fair play sounds like he wants to fight him regardless, and that's number one. Now, you could argue that Colby COVID.

Has won, that he's got his way, because there could be some people out.

There that might say, if I'm Ian.

Gary, I wouldn't give him what he. No, no.

You want to get your hands on. You know, obviously, I'm joking about the hotel and all the rest of it. I'm joking about know, they're. They're very serious words that should have serious consequences. Unfortunately, you have a platform where you can both get paid a lot of money to actually fight and settle your differences, and it would actually make it way more entertaining for the fan base to watch.

So all he's got to do is say, yeah, fine, call Hunter, call Dana.

Call Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard, whoever it.

Is that he deals with personally and say, sort that fight.

And obviously, it's down to the UFC.

Whether or not it makes sense for them. Maybe, given all the negativity, maybe they.

Don'T want to promote that fight. I'm just throwing the ball around. I'm not saying they would say that.

Harriet, that stupid look on your face.

That bemused look about you. I'm just saying that maybe they don't.

Who knows? But they don't want ugliness. They don't.

I know it sells, but they don't necessarily want that. They do everything they can to keep fires like that away from each other at the. Do they do the UFC? Don't want that at all.

But that is some pretty heavy stuff.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying this is the same company that used the footage of the dolly going through the window to promote pay per views for the Khabib McGregor.

Fight, and if you got it, you use it.

I was going to say what's done.

Is done, and that was going to be my point.

What's done is done here. Colby's already said what he said.

Right.

Ian Gary has been entertaining it every.

Step of the way.

Sorry to interrupt, but just to counter your point there, that doesn't mean they're not going to do everything they can to ensure that they don't run into each other beforehand. They're not going to set that up and, like, let's have the embedded guys ready for it to sell the fight. No, they will do everything in their power to make sure that they don't encounter one another. And if it's already in the bag and they've got the footage of Conor.

McGregor going mental with a dolly, you're.

A fight promoter, you're trying to promote the fight. That's great promotional footage, which resulted in the biggest pay per view of all.

Time for the UFC. Right.

But I'm saying they've already got their dolly through the window where Colby Covington is asking a room full of people if they banged Ian Gary's wife. And Ian Gary himself just shared that clip again, which makes absolutely no sense to me. He's sitting in a pool making Timex ads. Literally, his first response was him sitting in a pool, like, looking at his watch, saying, I'll respond on my time. Hashtag, the company I'm selling watches for. You're not in the pocket, you're not in the moment. You're not worried about this guy disrespecting your wife, you're trying to put on some kind of show. The UFC already has all that footage, and it's going to be used dogs. They're going to have to put them on the same press conference stage together. They're going to have to do it.

At some point before they fight.

Listen, you stated your case very well, and I concede defeat in this one. You got me. You got me good. It had to happen at some point. How long will we doing this podcast now?

You know what I mean?

Seven, eight years. I can retire now.

Probably longer. Probably longer.

It was eight years ago since I fought Anderson Silver. Eight years. Eight years.

I was doing it then. I did an episode from my hotel room. So longer than eight, maybe nine or nine. Nine. Sound bloody german. That's the show, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for watching. Anthony Smith will not be back because it's Thursday. Thursday we have Bo nickel, we have Paolo Costa, and I think one other as well, so make sure you tune in for that one. Thanks for the support. See you soon.