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You're listening to the Gas Digital Network.

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Conceive, believe, achieve. Shut the f up.

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You're listening to believe you me with Michael the Count Bisbing.

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You know my name yet. And Anthony Lionhardt-Smith.

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Boom. Today, ladies and gentlemen, I'm joined by the one, the only, the great, the original, ultimate fighter cast member, the Battle Bot commentator, PFL commentator, all-around nice guy, three-time World Challenger, man with the greatest smile in all of mixed martial arts, and one of the best goddamn podcasts on mixed martial arts in planet Earth. Teddy Florian, what's I don't get it.

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I knew I missed you more than just talking to you. I just did get in that intro, man. Wow.

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Damn, I missed you. Come on. I was thinking about you in bed last night.

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Really?

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Wow.

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This is a whole different podcast.

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It was 2024. Come on, man. No, I was thinking about you in bed. I was led in bed. Let me rephrase that. I was led in bed last night. Very complicated thing for a lot of people. You're a good-looking guy. You're a handsome dude. And I was thinking, I was thinking about the show, which is what to talk about. And I was thinking, do you remember the first time we ever met?

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Well, obviously- Because I do. Right. So I remember the first time Well, we competed. You are an ultimate fighter season three.

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Three.

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I remember we fought on that card. I was the main event or the opener? I forget. You were the main. Okay, main event.

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Mr. Humble, was that the main event? You fought Diego Sánchez at 185 pounds, right?

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Yeah, exactly. Was it that time when we met for the first time?

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Was that the first So I was there. I was in Vegas six weeks before the fight. Long story, visa issues. And you took us training, me and an old training partner of mine. We went to Las Vegas Athletic Club. And I remember sitting in the back of the car thinking, This is Kenny Florian. And you're probably thinking, Who's this cocky, bald, skinhead? I can't understand the word he's saying, dickhead, in the back of my car. And we went training one day, and you clearly don't remember.

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I do not. God damn. Yeah.

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And you were telling me about... I think it was then. Or no, maybe that wasn't then, but one time you were training, you were leaving to go for a flight or something, and you were packing your suitcase and you pulled your back out. That car had been then because that was-Yeah, but it was around that time.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's so funny, man. Wow.

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That's how far we go back.

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And that was nice to you? Did I look you in the eye and address you?

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Yeah, you did. You wouldn't look me in the eye. You said, You got to call me Mr. Florian.

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Exactly. Okay. All right. That sounds more like me.

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You You're still an ultimate fighter cast member. You're not in the UFC, so slowly roll and hold the door and all the rest of it. Kenny, we're going to talk about some things going on in mixed martial arts, of course, but you have had an incredible career. Obviously, now you're a commentator. You used to be with the UFC, now with the PFL, as I said at the start, Battle Boss and a bunch of other TV work. I worked with you for a long time at Fox Studios. Great days back then, some great laughs. That feels like a long time I'm going to go now. But just want to say, congrats, man, on such an incredible career, fighting for the belt three times.

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Thank you, man. I think my thing that I'm most proud of is, I think, when I scared you on the Halloween episode of the ultimate of UFC of UFC tonight. That was good times, man. I miss working with you. Yeah, it's been a fun road, man. It's crazy. Even when you were doing the Ultimate fighter back in the day, obviously, I was on a couple of seasons before, we had no idea that it would blow up to be this big, man. I think we all had hoped, and that was the aspirations of the organization, of the fighters and all that stuff. But to see where it is now, man, it's amazing. It's amazing. And in a relatively short amount of time, it's just a testament to the fighters, the organizations involved in MMA, and where we're at now. It's been pretty cool to be a part of that.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. And I fully agree with everything you said. When you look back at your career, Kenny, is the one fight that stands out that you're particularly proud of or a high moment for you?

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Yeah. I think back when I was fighting, the one fight that I really wanted for a very long time was against a gentleman named Takanori Gomi. He was the best 155 pounder for a long time. He was over in pride. And I think there was this perception at the time, in particular, where it was like, the UFC guys are amazing. And most of those guys are the best, but some of those pride guys, They're the absolute best. They're the best of the best. They had the huge crowds and all that stuff. There was always this discussion of what would happen if the best from pride bought the best in the UFC, yada, yada, yada. For me, he was like that guy that I always wanted to fight. I was lucky enough that when he came over to the UFC, I got to be his first fight in the UFC. I considered that a huge gift to get the opportunity to compete against him. Luckily, it went my way. I was able to get the win. For For me, that was a dream fight scenario. I always thought like, Maybe one day it's going to happen in Japan.

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But it was pretty cool. It actually happened in the States, and it was cool to get a win against a legend like Gomi, man.

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To fight him in Japan would have been amazing. I've never been to Japan. It's on my bucket list. I started off doing Japanese jiu-jitsu. I've traveled all over the world, and I've still never been to Japan. Did you commentate out there, or did you fight there? I did.

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I did two events out There are one which was Brian Stan, Vanderlay Silva, which was pretty crazy. Man, Japan is awesome. You got to go one of these days, and you'll have a blast, dude.

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Yeah, can't wait. Right. So listen, there's a clip doing the rounds at the moment on Twitter this morning. I guess we'll start with this because it's a good segue. As you said, you didn't realize the sport... Well, we didn't realize. Of course, Dana White, the UFC, they had this vision that they were able to realize. And now it is, I'd say, it's the biggest combat sport on the planet. Obviously, boxing is still incredible, but it's always been there. I think more and more younger people... I don't even need to finish my thought. You know what I'm saying. And John Anick is... We got the little clip here. Let's play it for context, Brian. Harrington just put it in the chat. John Anick, he just can't take it anymore. I love John. He's like, As the sport gets bigger, you get more fans, you get more assholes. You know what I mean? If I look at my comment section, on this podcast. I mean, I do look at the comment section.

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You're a sadist. I like it.

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Yeah, you look at the good ones, you think that guy's smart. Then you see the bad ones, you're like, This guy's a dickhead. Do you know what You're picking choose, Brian, are we able to play that clip, please?

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Even if you and I both thought, Drakis Duplecey won the fight, we try to present that information respectfully. And when I go on to X or I go to our YouTube comments, it seems It's like a lot of these fans are just in attack mode. And I don't know if these fans are casual fans or not, right? But I appreciate the passion. But I'm getting to a point at 45 years of age where I don't know how much time I have left in this MMA space, because If I go do pro football, I'm not necessarily going to be dealing with this lowest common denominator all the time. And I don't know, man, I just feel like there's a lot of malice and disrespect from the fan base, and we can disagree. Don't Don't take it from me. Demetrius Johnson and Kenny Florian thought DDP won the fight. I don't know. I've just been very off put with the negativity that has permeated my feed since Saturday night, and I'm just not sure how much longer I have in this space, honestly. Yeah. Listen, man, I think- Well, first of all, nobody wants to see John Anick retire.

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That's the damn sure. Was he just frustrated in the moment? Because the thing is, Strickland does have a very passionate, loyal fan base, and he does connect with a certain demographic, shall we say. Do you know what I'm saying? And they have his back massively. I had Drikus DiPlece winning in a close fight. How did you score that one, Kenny? It sounds like it was the same.

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Yeah, I had Drikus as well, man. I don't know Sean personally. I've never traded with him or anything like that. Clearly a controversial figure right now, I guess, in sports in general. But he's going to say what he's going to say. I actually gave him a few awards as biggest upset, different things that we did at the end of the year for the Antecan Florian podcast. I don't hate him. I don't like him. I have no bias or whatever. I think he's a great fighter. I think he's a fantastic fighter. I just think he was edged out by Drickis in that some of those rounds, it's like sometimes we can weave certain narratives through a round and make it look like we won or did a little thing a little bit more effectively than another person, even sometimes with just body language alone. I always talk about, I think it was Jalen and Hooker when they fought back in the day And I felt like some of the shots that Jalen was landing on Dan Hooker were great shots, but Dan wasn't really reacting to it as much. And then Dan would land a shot on Jalen.

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Jalen would overreact to it or wince or do something. And those little things sometimes could be the difference between winning a round or losing a round. And I think that Drickis did a good job of backing Strickland up in some very critical points of the rounds. I thought he landed some good shots of critical points. He was landing some good kicks, I thought. He landed some good takedowns. And those little things, when we're talking about a fight that was close, and it was absolutely close, I thought he was able to swing the boat over to his side because of that. And you know what? If Strickland I wouldn't have had a problem with that either. It was that close. I just thought that Drickas did enough based on what we've seen. I thought Drickas did enough. Now, in regards to John's situation, I think it can be frustrating. I would love to say that I've never been bothered by what people have said online. I think as a fighter, as an analyst, as a commentator, whatever, you can succumb to that. We're all human. We can all see some of the comments and get down on it a little bit.

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I think that John, as you know, is one of the hardest working guys, if not the hardest working guy in what he does in his role. There's a tremendous amount of work that goes in each and every show. He does his best to do that, and especially a role like his, where he's just call and action and stuff. I think we're probably more susceptible to that role because we're offering more criticisms and thoughts of what is... Yeah. Whereas he's just call and action. And for him to get that criticism, he's like, Man, what the heck? He's not even saying anything that controversial. I think for anyone who really knows the sport, one thing you can't agree on is that that fight was close. And to say it's a robbery one way or the other, I think it's just fans that either bet on Strickland, that are ride or die fans of Strickland, or people that, quite frankly, maybe don't know the sport well enough. And that's It's going to happen, too.

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Well, I think you hit the nail on the head there with maybe don't know the sport enough because Strickland has tapped into a fan base with the whole freedom thing and all the rest of it, America. I'm all for freedom. I'm all for America. I choose to live here, of course. But if you don't know the sport, They were close. And I don't want to repeat the show that we did previous to this one. At the end, I wasn't sure which way it was going to go. I thought Strickland... Sorry, Drickies would have it, but I was like, If Strickland got it, I wouldn't have had a problem. I do think the fact that he just fought behind the jab primarily, and he didn't really do anything else. I think Drick is going forward, pushing the pace, landing the bigger shots, and just being more aggressive swayed it a little bit for the judges. Going back to John's comment There's a lot of comments there, I think ultimately, it's a good thing if you think about it, because as you said, the sport has grown massively from where it was. And I think any time there's growth, more people get involved and start watching it.

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That's just the way it's going to be. I mean, football, soccer, English football, biggest sport on planet Earth, and the problems that they have with those fans is out of control. Right now, there's a hole. I forget who it was because I'm not the biggest football fan, as you know. But I keep an eye on it, one eye, and I keep a blind eye on it. But there's something going on right now because all the football players, they're all imitating monkey noises to a black player and all the rest of it. And then, of course, there's always and massive fights and hooliganisms and all the rest of it. The bigger the sport, the bigger the issues, and the bigger the fan base, and the bigger the fan base, you're going to get some dickheads along for the ride as well.

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Totally. Totally. I agree.

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All right. So anyway, and we're not calling you all dickheads, by the way. Just some. Some of you, you know who you are. Come out in the comment section. Notice where Kenny is like, Okay, Michael. All right. You're calling them dickheads. Great. All right. Today's episode is sponsored by Prizepicks, which is the biggest daily fantasy sports platform with over 3 million members. And the easiest way to play DFS, just you against the numbers. Pick more or less. It really is that simple. And by the way, the big game is right around the corner. Prizepicks is the easiest and most exciting way to turn every game-changing moment into potentially 100 times your money with as little as four correct pitch. You can turn $10 into one Oh, also, you want to play Pricepicks alongside some of your favorite players like Rapper Meek Mill and comedian Andrew Schultz. You can now find community plays under the promo tab of the app to view entries from some of the biggest names in the Pricepicks community every week. Pricepicks even offers injury insurance, so your entry stay in play even if one of your players gets injured for football and basketball games as well.

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Speaking of basketball, this weekend, we got some action. All you're going to do is pick more or less. Steph Curry, will he get more or less than 29 points? Very simple. And Nikola Jokić, is he going to get more or less than 10 rebounds? Anthony Davis, will he get more or less than two blocks? And Damian Lillard, will he get more than four three-pointers made? If you know the answer, if you want to take a pick, if you want to make some money and have a little bit of fun, then all you got to do is go to pricepicks. Com/believe. Use the promo code believe for a deposit match of up to $100. One more time, pricepicks. Com/believe. Use the code believe for a deposit match of up to $100. This was not scheduled because of this. I reached out to you a few weeks ago and said, Would you mind jumping on the podcast one Thursday? And you said, Yeah, absolutely. And I thought it'd be great for all times. But Kyla Harrison has just signed with the UFC, so it seems like I've reached out straight away because of this. But Kayla Harrison coming over to the UFC, obviously a tremendous mixed martial artist, highly accredited, one of the best judo players ever, former champion.

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Or did she retire as the champ? I know she had that one loss.

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She did not retire as the champ, but she did have a loss where she wasn't able to repeat as champ. And then she had just come back and fought just like a super fight, if you will, and won.

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But that was at 155, £135. That was at £135.

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That was at 150, I think, technically. They had like... Yeah, she fought Aspen Lad. It was supposed to be at 145. Someone dropped out, so she slipped in. They just did a catch weight because there was a late replacement. She was supposed to fight Julia Bud and fought Aspen Lad instead. But yeah, so interesting, that's going to be at 135 pounds, man. I think that Kayla has been amazing to watch. I think she's going to be a A huge star, a huge asset to the UFC. She's the full package. I think she's great on the mic. She's a great fighter. She has the pedigree leading up to this, a two-time gold medalist in judo. No American has ever done that, male or female. She certainly has the athleticism, the ability, the focus, the mindset. I find it really interesting. She's going to fight at 135 pounds. I know her last cut to, I think, which was 150 pounds, was super easy for her. She's been dialing everything in to do that. I know she's been wanting to fight in the UFC for a while. She wants to face the absolute best. The PFL does not have a 135 pound division, and she start things off against a legend in Holly Holmes.

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So that's not necessarily an easy fight for her either. You have Holly, who was able to upset the last great judo-based MMA fighter, Rhonda Rousey in that division. So I think there's a little interesting story there. Holly, certainly a little bit older than the last time she faced Ronda, but she's always going to be a threat. She always comes in tremendous shape. She's been working on her grappling last few years. So I think it's going to be interesting fight, and it's setting Kayla up for quite the introduction, I think, in the UFC as a woman. You beat someone like Holly Home, people are going to know your name. And I think that that helps her that much more. I think she could be setting herself up to be a big star in that division, which I think really needs a star at this point. So it's pretty cool.

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Yeah. Well, as you said, needs a star. I mean, they just had the Bantamware title at the weekend. Ryan Clarke from DC and RC had a bit of a controversial take. I don't know if you saw that. No. Harrington, I don't want to say this. I don't want to repeat it. This is not my words, and I wasn't going to bring it up, but you just said needs a star, and I've got ADD, so it pops in there. Harrington, the floor is yours.

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Okay, so I did- Hold on, first of all, you're not going to address the great Kenny Florian? What are you talking about?

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How dare you, sir.

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Dude, this guy knows the wedge, the greatest combat sports athlete on the planet, Mr. Battlebot himself. So, yeah, of course, Mr. Florian, it's a pleasure to speak to you. Good to see you again, man. Yeah. So, yeah, RC on DC and RC had a comment this week, essentially saying that if that the level of competition that they are going to have at the Bantamweight division, then it's time to just shatter the whole thing. These are two ladies who came in with a game plan. It clearly went out the window, and it was a pretty sloppy affair over five rounds.

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Yeah. I mean, do it the first take.

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Yeah, that's interesting. Listen, was it the best fight? No, it was not. We talked about this on the podcast with John, and I was saying, Hey, listen, I think There's certain divisions that are going to have gaping holes in talent, in-depth, things like that. It's the nature of the sport. We're still growing, especially when it comes to women's MMA. The men had a big head start over a women's mixed martial arts in the UFC, certainly. Because of that, I think we're much further developed. I think just based on the history of the sport. You go to any mixed martial arts gym right now and you count all the men up and When you count how many women are involved and who are fighting, there's going to be a huge discrepancy of how many men there are compared to women. Because of that, the level is not going to be as high. That's the main thing. I think that it's taking them some time. Right now, there's certain divisions. I think the 205-pound division of the UFC for a little while was a little bit dead. It wasn't so interesting. Then all of a sudden, now it's pretty dang interesting.

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You're going to get those lulls in talent or competition at times in certain divisions Even when Demetrius Johnson was champ, people were talking about, Hey, the 125-pound division, there's nobody out there for them. We need more competition. Now that division is unbelievable, right? So you go back several years to where they are now. The sport's growing, it's evolving, It takes time. And at some times, just certain weird stuff happens. So I agree with Ryan that, Hey, the fight was not the best. Should we throw it out all completely now? No. The 145-pound division probably makes more sense just because there's not enough enough women, probably, that are competing in that division. But I think the 135-pound division is growing, still has some good talent in there. We just have to wait for the sport to build and get those stars to climb up the ladder a little bit more.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. And of course, Ryan's entitled to his opinion, but I agree with everything, what you just said there, because I think, listen, look at men and look at women. And this is, of course, women are great athletes, but I think men just have more of an ambition to fight professionally. Obviously, not all men want to do that, and not all women want to do that. But I think the percentage of men that look and get turned on, for want of a better expression, by the thoughts of fighting, there's a lesser percentage of women that get turned on at the thoughts of wanting to fight. When I go pick up my son from where he trains, there's girls in the class, but it's 70, 30 in terms of boys to girls. You know what I mean? And that's just how it is. Amanda Nunez recently retired. Kayla Harrison is going to come in. She's going to make a big wave. She's got a big introduction at UFC 300. She hasn't got an easy fight against Holly Hall either. So listen, Ryan Clarke I'm proud of you for having the balls to say that. But come on, brother.

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Come on. Harrington, jump on the show, please, and throw a little mixed martial arts topical story at the great Ken Flo.

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Okay. How about this one? Something good. It's pretty good. Pretty juicy. All right. Tom Aspinal says that he was contacted by the UFC about fighting Steepe Miocic on April 13th, which you might know is the date of UFC 300. He said immediately, Yes, absolutely. I'm in. They went back to Steepay, and Steepay apparently said, No, the only person he's interested in fighting right now is Jon Jones, so that fight won't be happening. Tom then said, I'm done with all this. Let the two greats fight for the legacy belt. Congratulations to them.

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Yeah. Yeah. Tough situation, man. I think that... I want to be clear because last time I was saying, Hey, Steepay and Jon Jones have established themselves as legends. Now, Tom is a certified legend as well, but he hasn't been around the sport as long as those guys. Those guys have won the belt many times over. They've been part of some of the biggest UFC events in history, huge names. And I think that for two guys that have been at their level, have been in the sport for so long, for them, it's probably more worth it to say, Hey, let me face another legend that's run around my era that can bring in a lot of money for me. And I write off into the sunset, win or lose. I don't think they see that same advantage as, say, Tom Aspinal. Tom Aspinal doesn't probably click all those boxes. Now, Tom may very well be more dangerous than both of those guys. He might. I don't know if he is. He might. If I'm a legend at the end of my career and I say, Hey, just give me one more fight, I don't know if they want that fight to be against Tom Aspinal for a couple of different reasons.

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First of all, you don't want to get smashed by someone like that who's still, again, interim champion, great champion, may go on to be one of the best heavyweight champions of all time, but he's not there yet. I think they want to get out and push Tom away and go, I don't want any part of that. Probably the same way that Tom Aspenal, when he's looking at other fights right now in the heavyweight division for fights that make sense for him, he's going, I don't know if a lot of these fights make sense for me. So you see the different levels and where they're at in their careers. So I think that's where the pause is coming from. Now, would I want to see that fight? Absolutely. I would love to see Tom Aspenal against one of those guys. I think it makes a lot of sense. But it's got to be frustrating for Tom at the same time, who just won the interim belt in dramatic fashion in fantastic fashion, and now is going, Well, no one wants to play with me. What am I supposed to do? It's really a tough situation, not only for him, but for the UFC, I'm sure as well, because now, what do you do with this interim champ?

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Who knows when John Jones comes back. If he does come back, there could be another injury. There could be another situation. Steeple gets hurt. Things get pushed down the line. Now we're two years from this date, and now it's... So I don't know. I hope that fight does come to fruition. I think it can. But for Tommy, man, I don't know what spot he's in right now. All good situations in some ways, but he might be on the back burner for a little bit. I don't know.

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Yeah. I was talking to my wife, Rebecca, when I read this story, and I was like, I I'm not going to get it. And she was like, What do you mean? She said, I know for a fight, if you were offered that fight, you would take it. I said, Yeah, a few things. One, I'm a idiot. But all jokes aside, I'm like, You You illustrate my point perfectly. Fighters need protecting from themselves. I said any good manager, and by the way, Steepay is not an idiot. I'm not implying that for one second here. But any good manager worth their salt, and Tom isn't going to like it when I say this. I'm a friend of Tom. I'm a huge fan of his. I'm a big believer in him. We don't know who would win that fight between Tom or Steepay. But if you just look at it on paper, if you've got a guaranteed matchup against Jon Jones, the greatest of all time, you're almost 42 years You haven't fought in three years. You're going to fight Jon Jones, potentially become the heavyweight champion of the world, and then potentially retire. Or you can fight three months before that.

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And no disrespect to Tom, it's not the draw that John Jones is. Regardless of what people say that they've lost their appetite for that fight, it's still John Jones, and it's still going to be a compelling fight. And at the end of it, you might be the interim champ. Why are you going to And he's going to fight Jones a few months later. You know what I'm saying? You can fight in April or maybe August, September, you can fight Jon Jones. I hate to say it because Tom, I love you, brother. The bigger fight is Jon Jones, and potentially, you never know, potentially an easier matchup as well. So it just makes all the business sense in the world for Steve and me. I think Tom will probably end up fighting somebody like a Cyril Garner or somebody like that. There's some fun fights out there for him, but Tom actually said, he said, All right, that's I'll shut up now. You got to feel for him. You go out there, you come from the world, and you just want to solidify it and unify it.

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But that's just- He's trying to get those. As a fighter, as a guy who's trying to, again, make as much money in this game as you can. This is a dangerous game. You want to be able to get in, make as much money as you can, take advantage of the opportunities, and get out the best that you can. Tom's trying. He's got two legends right now that are out there that are talking about fighting, Steepay and Jon Jones, and he's trying to throw his hat in the mix. And you got to give him credit for that. I don't think it's going to happen, but you know what? I think later on down the line, Tom will get some good fights and some good matchups. Like you said, Cyril Ghan, that's a very intriguing one for me. I'd love to see it. I think Tom is going to be a great champion in the future.

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Oh, yeah, without doubt. Let me ask you, Kenny, were you much of a weightlifter when you were on strength training? I mean, do you really mean to ask me, look at the way I look, man. I mean, come on, dude. What day is it? Thursday, what is it? Bies and tries today, Kenny.

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Bies and tries. Yeah, absolutely. Never skip like that.

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I did a lot of strength and conditioning.

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I wasn't a power lifting guy at all. I just did a lot of functional stuff and a lot of stuff that would just kick my ass. It mimic a fight. So I'd go circuits and do all that stuff and then do a little bit of power stuff. But I It was so... My technique was so bad at Olympic lifting. Probably why I hurt my back. But anyways.

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That's all I do these days. I really in the morning a little bit and then I lift weights. I sometimes do a little jiu-jitsu, hit the bag and whatnot. But yeah, I lift a lot. The reason I bring that up is... Tom, There's a guy in England called Eddie Hall. He's one of the strongest men in the world. You've seen Eddie Hall. He's nice guy. I met him a couple of times as well. And he's training in Tom's gym right now. There's a video on the rounds. Maybe you can find it, Brian. He gets He's knocked out. Well, he doesn't get knocked out, but he gets dropped by a head kick, of course, because he's not a professional mixed martial artist. But then he's got Tom lifting weights, and Tom's lifting £130 in each hand doing reps of eight, which is ridiculous. Then he's doing bench press, and each side is 240 kilos, 240 kilos on each side, which is just ridiculous. I mean, the strength and the power of this man is just phenomenal. So I don't blame Steve for saying, You know what? I'll just sidestep that one. Kenny, we're going to throw one more story at you, if you don't mind before we let you go.

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Thanks for your time today. You're a North Carolina boy these days. Yes, sir. Harrington, I haven't even looked at this. Harrington has put a story in here, as Luke would have it, about North Carolina. And you're a father as well. We don't expect to talk about your children and stuff like that. There's your private life.

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I don't know where this is going, but I'm excited.

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What have we got? Well, I don't know either. I just looked at the notes and I just saw it as you were talking. And I'm like, Oh, so, Harrington, what's going on?

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So a North Carolina middle school, they said that they've noticed that kids are leaving class, sometimes as much as up to nine, 10 times a day, to go into the bathroom and use the mirrors there to film content for the social media site TikTok. Well, the school had enough of it, and their answer was, We're just getting rid of all the mirrors. They took every mirror out of every bathroom Yeah, in an effort to... Yeah, sorry about that. In an effort to stop this. In addition, they now have a digital hall pass system, so these kids are going to have a much harder time getting out of class.

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Wow. That's interesting answer. Back in the day, the kids in my class, they'd go to the bathroom and they'd smoke a cigarette, and that would be the most controversial thing. Now it's like TikTok. It's amazing, dude.

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No, it is. I'm not sure getting rid of the mirrors is the idea. You know what I mean? They can see themselves in the phone. Do you know what I mean? They don't need a mirror to do a TikTok. How about... I don't like it because my son Lucas, he goes to school He takes his phone every day. You know what I mean? I'm like, If I had a phone at school, if I had a phone at school, do you think I'm paying attention to the teacher? You're pretending to do your lessons. You're looking at watching YouTube videos with an earbud in. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not sure where we're meant to go with that story, Harrington. But yeah. What do you think about the decision to remove mirrors in the bathroom, kid?

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Kids have a right to look at their own faces for Pete's sake. No, I-Yes, absolutely. I don't know, man. The whole phone thing is crazy with kids, too, because you're a veteran dad now, Mike. I'm way behind you. I have a lot of catching up to do.

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But even like-22, almost 21 and 14.

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Every time I see a picture of your kids, I'm like, I saw them when they were little. Now they're massive. But anyways, even having the decision to give your kid a phone now, it's like, I'm like, Man, I don't know when that date is going to be. But there's so much that just goes with that, of just them having a phone. So anyway.

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Yeah, no, it's the whole thing in our house because I'm trying to say to Lucas, because every time I look around, he's looking at his phone. So I'm trying to limit the screen time on his phone. To do what? To look at the TV? I mean, he goes training, he hangs out with his friends, He rides his bike and all that type of stuff. So he's not looking at a phone there, and he's a great kid. But I'm like, We were looking at TV when we were younger, and he's hopefully not watching pornographic material. You know what I mean? He's watching some dickhead YouTuber talking about whatever because he always comes up and he's got some random fat like, Dad, did you know? I'm like, Where did you find that out? And it's like, YouTube. But the problem is, you can go down some deep rabbit holes on YouTube and certain websites that is available. That's the truth. Kenny, It's been an absolute pleasure talking to you, mate. It's some great times when we worked on the Fox studios. And thank you for ushering me along, showing me the ropes. Udc. Who else was on there?

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We had a few... Richard, Tal Woodland, Chael. Yeah, some good time.

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Yeah, dude. I miss you, man. Doing amazing work. Yeah, you're killing it, bud.

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All right, buddy. Well, listen, thanks for your time, Kenny. Good luck with everything. Talk to you soon. All right, today's episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. Right now is the time to take care of your mental health. If you haven't done it yet, then please give it a try, and give it a try with better help. Why should you use better help? Well, it's extremely convenient. If you're thinking of giving therapy a try, it's all done online. It's designed to be convenient, flexible, and of course, suited to your schedule. You just fill out a brief questionnaire, you get matched with a licensed professional therapist. And if you're not vibing, you're not gelling, you can switch therapists at any time for no additional charge. As I say, you don't have to jump in the drive to the other side of town. You're ever going to pay for parking, you're ever going to deal with some receptionist walking in. If you've got anxiety or addiction issues, an anger problem, whatever it is, if you're just going through a tough time in life, if you're just not feeling like you're making the most out of yourself, speaking to somebody will help you with whatever demon it is on your shoulder.

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Hey, here I am.

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There he is. The voice of God, G-K is right. Fresh-faced, yeah. All clean-shaving, maybe.

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I was ashamed this morning. Just felt like it was time. I looked really homeless.

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How regularly do you shave? Because I can see you've properly shaved.

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Yeah, I don't know. Whenever it feels like it's time, whenever I'm looking a little extra hillbilly, I'll shave it up.

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I haven't gone clean-shaven in years. I even talked about it to Rebecca recently. I said, I think I might go clean shaven. She went, No, don't. Don't you dare.

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The ladies do not like it.

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Did they not?

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No.

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I remember when I shaved my chest on the ultimate fighter because I had the skin I had the heavy chest and everything. I never shave my chest. You do look in better shape when you shave your chest, but everyone had shave chest on there. So I shaved my chest on one of the final days. And when I got back, I hadn't seen Rebecca for a while. We'll leave that there. She's like, I feel like I've just slept with a little boy. That's hilarious. I'll tell you what, another thing that they were doing on the Ultimate fighter, when I coached Season 14, American fighters, and this is not an American versus UK thing or anything like that. They shave their legs. The male fighters shave their legs.

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Yeah, probably to stop from those little fine ingrown hair, getting infections and pulling your hair out and shit. I'm sure it sucks.

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Well, UK fighters don't shave. I mean, I don't shave my legs. I'd never shave my legs, but I was getting shamed every day. Every time I go-It's the new world, Mike. They're like, They're heavy legs, this man. They're heavy legs. So one day, I'm back at the little apartment that I had, and I shared it with Tiki Goulson, and I was using my beard trimmer on my face. I thought, I'll have a go. No. I shaved one leg. Do you know what I mean? And then I stopped and I looked at it and I shouted out, Tiki, I've made a terrible mistake. And he kept running in thinking something really bad had happened. He's like, What's wrong? I said, I've shaved one of my legs. And he was just laughing his head off. And then the next day, because obviously I had to shave the other one. I have to. I walked in the next day, my legs are white as hell, North England. You know what I mean? And it was so obvious, and I just had the piss taken out of me for weeks.

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You should have just shaved one and said, If you were doing a thing you saw in a music video.

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Yeah, there you go. I saw a tweet from Paulo Costa recently getting back on track. We'll get off the shaved legs. And the whole manscaping thing and the shaved balls as well. I do it when I do my chest, you know what I mean? Which is not... I do. When I shave my chest and I shave the downstairs. The two go together. When I'm doing my grooming, it's an all in one job. I'm busy for the next hour. Paulo Costa put a tweet out saying, Who are the most hated fighters right now in the UFC? Name the current most hated fighter. So anyway, so I retweeted that. I didn't retweet. I comment-tweeted it with... Where is it? What did I say? I said, who's your top five most annoying? Because hated is a strong word that we don't like to spread hate, guys. We're not spreading hate speech, but hated is a strong word, but annoying. Some fighters can get annoying. So I was curious as to who people might think is the most annoying fighters right now. Now, I may or may not have been doing a little bit of research for a YouTube video that I may or may not drop soon.

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Let me ask, who would be on your list, boys? Who is the most annoying fighter?

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Three right off the top of my head. I have three really quickly is Ian Gary, Patty Pimblet, Conor McGregor. I mean, he's so fucking aggravated. I follow him on Twitter, and it's just obnoxious sometimes. Come on, dude.

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Yeah. So the first comment here is from Ant Evans. You know Ant Evans? Yeah. He's been on here before. He said, this is actually pretty funny. He goes, Ian Gary, Ian Gary's wife, Ian Gary's So Ian's wife's name, Gary. Short, straightforward. That's so funny. He went deep on the Ian Gary. I love Hamza, but I'll see you soon tweets after any relevant fight or wins his Getting annoying. No Negativity. Top five favorite fighters: Khalil, Alonso Manifield, Gregory Rodriguez, Natalia Silver, Matt Fribola. That's a nice list. Someone here is most annoying: Gugliano Pena, Ian Gary, Kobe Covington, He's actually may have Conor McGregor. Harrington, what say you? You're being very quiet over there.

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Well, no. I think for me, when Brian said three, I figured Kolby for sure had to be on that list.

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It's an easy round out for the rest of the five.

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Yeah. I like his annex, and I get that he's selling a fight, but when you go that hard and then don't deliver, it stops being entertaining, and it starts shifting towards the annoying, for me, at least.

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And not only that, but he breaks makes KFABE all the time. Go all in. Don't let us know. You know what I mean? Make us wonder if this is a character or not. But the fact that we know that you're playing a character makes it a little funny and corny.

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Yeah, and you're absolutely right. I Do you think right now, Kolby belongs on that list? Listen, the man's always, historically, ever since that fight with Damian Meyer, I think it was, talks a lot of shit when he was in all the Brazilians, and that's when this new persona was born. The whole Leon Edwards things, the way he promoted that, what he said at the press conference, not showing up for the fight is another one. But the fact that at the ceremonial weigh-ins, he actually said, Hey, I was just in character. I was just in character. He's like, Number one, that doesn't excuse what he said. You know what I mean? But yeah, copy, copy, Tim. Got to be on that list as well.

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Speaking of reading the comments, somebody in the comments for last week said that he was at the way, and he was trying to get under Leon's skin more by saying, I thought I was just a character. You weren't going to let anything I say affect you. I'm just a character, right? Then why are you mad about me talking about your dad? That's how I took it. It's like, if that's the case, then you doubling.

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Well, exactly. Anyway, let us know in the comment section that we will look at, who is your most annoying fighter? I might use it as inspiration for a video that will be going down sometime soon. I'll tell you what you didn't put in the notes, Hamilton. Conor McGregor's acting debut to promote the trailer dropped today. What's that face?

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Would you like me to find the roadhouse trailer?

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Find the Roadhouse trailer. All I'm going to say is this. Look, listen, it's his first gig, and God bless him. Good for him. I was out in Bulgaria in 2022, filming Red Sonja. My biggest part yet. I'm quite proud of it. It was a nice big, chunky roll. Got a bit of a range in there as well. It's a good part. Mcgregor, because he was on set as well, just started randomly If you're going to be insulting me on Twitter. Oh, remember that show that you did? Yeah, me neither. Nobody else does blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all the rest of it. Anyway, if I was so petty, which I'm not, I could see that trailer today and be like, Don't give up your day job, bro. But, hey, God bless him. Good for him. No doubt going to be a big, big, big success. Let's have a look at the trailer because we can play trailer on YouTube. Boom. Go.

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Before we start, do you have insurance?

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What? Your coverage good? Do you have dental? Oh, ha ha. Is there a hospital nearby? Is it too far? About 25 minutes, I'd say.

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I just slapped you. Are you all right?

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What?

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Oh, That bit was cool. I like the way he paused the slap. You ever win?

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No one ever wins a fight.

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This is just like a complete remake. This ain't the holiday, pal. Yeah. Just pause it, Brian, a second. Just pause it because I loved the first Roadhouse movie. No, we'll go back to it. I loved the first Roadhouse movie. You know what I mean? Yes, there's some UFC scenes in there, and I'm not shitting on the film, but so far, it seems like the same movie, and they've just remade it. Even the scene in the hospital, have you guys seen the first one?

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I don't like Dalton having a backstory. I like meeting Dalton at a random bar, and then he's just Dalton.

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We just take it at its big value. I'm all for back stories. There's another clip of Justin McGregor's bits, but whatever, whatever. It's fine. We'll play it. I'm just saying because the premise, of course, is that there's a dive bar somewhere. He's under a lot of trouble. There's big fights there every week. They've got to clean it up. So they bring in this badass doorman, Dalton. You know what I mean? And he goes to war with the local Mafia, right? I'm not sure if when you bring in this badass dormant, him being a world famous UFC fighter is going to solve the problem. Do you know what I mean? Number one, no one's meant to know how much of a badass he is. Secondly, if you're known for being a fire, You're just going to attract trouble. Do you know what I mean? I'm not slagging the movie off. I'm just saying, in my experience, you don't throw an internationally world famous fighter on the door and go, right, because that's just a challenge. Do you know what I mean?

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Any dickhead in that town, Four Beers Deep, is going to say, I wonder if I can go beat up the former middleweight champion of the world. You know what I mean? That's just you're taking a shot. Dalton's whole thing was, We avoid fights at all costs.

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The answer to that question is no. You would not be able to beat up the former middleweight champion of the world. No, listen, we're only having a bit of fun. We're not talking shit about it. You're back.

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I got Connor's parts, too.

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Yeah, let's have a look.

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Hey, fellows.

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It looks like you're having a smacking night.

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No, then. I got a tip for you.

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Don't let no one get this It's close.

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Come on, bro. Let me guess. You know what threatened me?

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Tell me to get out of town.

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I get the impression that he can't be threatened. Once Nox is on It's a good job. It's over, baby. It takes a lot to get me angry, but when I am, I just can't let go.

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People It'll seem a little aggressive around here.

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There it is. I'm sure it's going to be a fun little action flick. I saw some comments, and I thought they were great. What was it? Hold on. What did Connor say that? Well, number one, first of all, no wonder he didn't get back to the USA testing pool any quicker because he looks gigantic in that. Do you know what I mean? There's a few... The Stockton Slap was in there. Somebody said that. The Chael Sonnen I can't let you get close. That was in there. Fair play to Connor. Well done to him. What do you think, Harrington?

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I think it's pretty telling that it is going directly to streaming is all I'm going to say about that.

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I was going to say that.

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It's weird that they don't want a box office release for this one.

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Why would you say such a thing?

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Turns out, pay-per-view sales don't necessarily translate to box office sales.

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I don't know. Jay Gilling Hall is a pretty big deal.

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Yeah, but his last four or five movies have all been on Netflix or Apple TV or whatever.

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Yeah, that's because these... By the way, I'm not defending or arguing your decision. That's because these streaming services, they make so much money. I just saw, in the last couple of months or so, Netflix, they've increased their subscription base by something like 10 % or 15 %, something like that. And they generate something like, I forget what it was. It was on the news yesterday, 20 odd billion a month or something crazy like that.

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Do you know what I Just a shot in the dark. I'm imagining it has something to do with Disney's politics and their rapid decline.

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People have been jumping their subservice.

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They've just been like, it's the subscriptions have been dropping dramatically for them.

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To be fair, Netflix also put a stop to password sharing.

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I know over the last two quarters, that's just increased subscriptions significantly with all these millennials no longer able to trade off their parents, me being one of them.

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But nobody watches TV anymore. But the thing that pisses me off about streaming, though, is because, listen, streaming is great. You sit there, you binge watch and all the rest of it. They're putting goddamn ads on it now. On Netflix, we don't have ads Because we pay the more premium premium. But a lot of stuff on Prime or all these other services, they are Hulu, they have ads. And then you go on Prime even and you watch it with free view or something like that it is, and it's got ads in it. Soon, all streaming services is just going to become TV again. You choose what it is you want to watch, but then you have to sit through ads. It wasn't the whole point of streaming in the first place that you didn't have ads because you paid for it?

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Yeah, and everything's on demand all under the same roof, but you got to go in your Roku and find out which one of 19 different streaming services has the movie you want to watch from 1983. It has just made everything a little bit harder. I have those numbers here. The Netflix quarter revenue, 8.83 billion versus 8.71 estimated. Their EPS is 2.11 versus 2.19 estimated. 13.12 million new subs this quarter.

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Oh, wow. No wonder they're struggling. Only, what was it, eight billion a month? Yeah. Anyway, as a guy that's currently pitching a TV show to all streaming services, we'll quickly get off that conversation real quick. Tell me about what's going on with coffee, Harrington. Brian, I want you to jump on this one as well, because this is definitely up your street in terms of conversations and control.

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This was a big talking point for the World Economic Forum recently over the weekend. This is the group of people who likes to get together, fly a bunch of private jets to an island to talk about what everybody else is doing with their carbon footprint. They came out and said coffee is a new big target for them. They say for every one ton of coffee created, up to 20 tons of CO₂ is released into the air. And because it is all run by these small coffee farms, a lot of people who are dirt poor in what they're calling the global south, their idea is to get everything under one big banner where they'll take over the means of production, have it in a more green and sustainable way, and just hit smaller farmers with these CO₂ tax credits or tax penalties that'll make it so that they can't possibly stay in business.

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This is the worst. I mean, this is just another of the things that the WEF is doing to prove that they are actually that seen in the end of one of the newer James Bonds, where it's just a bunch of villains in a big room just trying to figure out a fuck with people. That has to be it because, first of all, I don't know who doesn't know this, but CO₂ is what plants breathe. The more CO₂, the more plants we can have, the more oxygen we can make. It's really easy math. There's a lot... This is going to get us kicked off at YouTube, so I'm not going to go too deep into it.

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Yeah, but don't go too deep, Brian, because we're trying to follow it, but constantly. But you could look into some of this global warming shit, and it's real sketchy.

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Just the science behind it, it doesn't make any sense.

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Yeah. Well, look, listen, first of all, I'm Do anybody listening to that? It sounds like they want to shut down the small little independent people, take it all for themselves, and then they run it. How is the way that they're going to run it help what they call a problem about the CO₂ emissions?

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Well, because then only rich people will get to drink coffee.

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Yeah, well, exactly. It's absolutely bloody ridiculous. But this is the World Economic Forum. I saw a clip last week. They had a blessing. They had some woman. Did you see that, Brian? Did you see that shit?Oh, my God. Oh, God. As you said, these people, the flying on the private jet. Listen, I'm all for less waste. I'm all for reducing plastics and all the rest of it and doing what we can. I do think climate changes naturally, but I do think, obviously, human beings as a race, we've, of course, contributed to that in some way. I think you would have to be more to not accept that we have contributed to a certain degree. Think about the industrial revolution, and there's millions and millions of cars, if not billions of cars on the bloody planet. But that isn't the issue. Do you know what I mean? It's not the only issue. There's just natural cycles, of course.

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We're living at the end of an ice age. Scientifically speaking, we're still in an ice age. The only path for us to take at this point is for it to warm up before it goes through another cycle. It's silly.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm not denying that or doubting that, and I haven't studied it, but it sounds plausible. But I think it's also plausible that, yeah, look, listen, are we contributing? Yeah, we are. Are you going to start stopping people driving cars and growing coffee beans and all the rest of it while they fly to wherever it was on their private jets and then get a blessing by some native Indian and they all sit there and we're supposed to drink their coffee or sip their bullshit and think that it's all okay. I mean, they're out of their minds. Look at this. This woman, she spits on everybody's forehead.

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What are we doing here? I thought this was supposed to be a health and wellness forum for the world or whatever. Then they have this crazy lady spitting on everybody's faces.

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That looks like a surefire way to spread COVID internationally. Oh, dear. Oh, God. All right, what else have we got, Harrison? There's no fight this week, of course. Kayla Harrison coming over to the UFC. That'll be interesting to see how she does. We never really got into it too much. £135. Apparently, she's been She's doing some test cuts, but still, will she be the same person? That's the big question because she competed at 78 kilos in judo, right? And 155 in PFL. Going down to 135, there's going to have to be a big, big overhaul in terms of the amount of protein, the training, the cardio. She's going to be massively diminished. She's going to be tired. Making 135 is not going to be easy for her, but I wish her all the best. But in terms of other mixed martial arts news, what else do we have? Hamza. What's going on with Hamza, Harrington?

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Yeah, I thought this was interesting. Hamza, he gave a pretty scathing interview. He was talking to Brett Acomodo of ESPN. He started with this, All these guys have fought each other, and only me is undefeated, undisputed at 13:00. They promised me, after the Kamara Usman fight, I will for sure fight for the title. I won that fight, so I don't know what's going on. I heard Dana White say, I don't think Hamza is next to the title. That's BS. If you promise me something, you have to answer it.

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Yeah, so I did see that and for sure understand his frustration, right? Because Dana did say that. He said that publicly as well. But things change. The reality He is. I mean, I'm assuming this is what happened. I haven't spoken to anybody at the UFC about it, but he hurt his hand. So then therefore, Drikus stepped in. Remember, Sean got the title shot because Drikus was injured. Then Hamza was promised a title shot, but he couldn't because he hurt his hand. So then Dricker steps in and takes that spot. It's always moving along. The situations are always changing, and then there's always new narratives, and there's more demand from certain fans for certain fights. So I understand it. It's just a shame that his hand got hurt, because if his hand didn't get hurt, there could have been a really good chance that Hamza would have been up there in Toronto fighting Sean Strickland. But that just ain't the situation these days. I think the main thing for Hamza, just to get back in there and start fighting. It looks like he's in phenomenal shape. I saw some training photos the other day, looking fast and sharp.

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Hamza has got a lot to give. He is undefeated. He is a big name. He did have that opportunity. But as shit happens, bad luck happens, and I feel for the guy. But it seems to me from the outside, just looking at the facts, that seems to be the situation, right?

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Certainly. He seems pretty pissed off that the both guys who were in the main event last week essentially had the same thoughts on Hamza saying that he hasn't earned his title shot, right? He He hasn't. He hasn't fought enough guys at 185. He hasn't done what contenders have to do to get into that spot. So he came back and said, Who is this Sean Strickland guy to be saying this? We sparred. I beat the crap out of him to the point where he had to go to his coach and say, Hey, this guy's going too hard. He pulls this bravado, tough guy, macho man stuff, but it's all nonsense because he went to a coach and said, This guy's going too tough in training. Ask Sean Strickland. He knows what happened.

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Yeah, no, I did see that as well. So that's a great way to try and get a fight with the former champion. You know what I'm saying? And maybe that might be the next one. Maybe that could be Hamza and Sean's next fight because I did say Jared Kananir potentially for Sean. I know there's a huge part of the fan base wants to see Sean get an immediate rematch. Probably going to be Izzy. Apparently, he's training down in Mexico at the moment. One would have thought he's working on his boxing down there and having some bloody killer tackles. But so if it is his fight in Drikus, hey, Sean versus Hamza, because when you start talking that shit, that's going to get a response from somebody like Sean, you would have thought. And we did see that video. Remember that video doing the rounds a while ago? Sean, he's being filmed. And then he goes over and he says to Hamza, he says, Hey, take it easy. You're better than everybody here. You know what I mean? So just take it down a notch. And I don't know what the context of that video was.

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We don't know what happened before that. We don't know if he's talking about beating up other sparring partners. We've seen plenty of footage of Strickland beating the shit out of sparring partners. We've seen him beating the shit out of people that don't even train. Do you know what I mean? So it is a little rich that Sean said, Hey, take it easy on everyone because you're just so good. Or maybe he was just being nice and polite self-deprecating. There's many ways you can look at that. Maybe he was just saying it for the camera and just being nice and like, Hey, dude, come on. But yeah, I think that actually, Strickland versus Hamza, I actually think that makes a lot of sense, certainly now, given the backstory, given the beef, given the shit talk, given that little clip, given the position that they're both in.

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Given their combined star power, we're talking just at this point two of the biggest names in the UFC who fight in the same division that you can match up against each other. I mean, that's one of the few fights I think you could put at the top of a pay-per-view without a title being on the line because they both just have such rabid fan bases.

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Yeah, well, I think Dana said they're yet to announce the main event of UFC 300, which, again, is just a ridiculous car from top to bottom already. So I'm excited for that. You never know, we might see, again, mine all over the place. We might see Tom Aspenal, Cyril Garn, who knows? Maybe Alex Pereira, Magamed Ancalyab. They have got some nice fights they can put on there. But remember, just around the corner from there is International Fight Week, right? And we don't know if Connor is going to fight on that or not. But if he does, Hamza, Sean Strickland, co-main event for International Fire Week. I mean, that would be my... If I was Mick Maynard, Dana White, Sean Shelby, that's what I'd be thinking right now, 100 %.

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Wow. Getting those two in the co-main event spot on a Connor card It is literally that's the next thing you'd have to do to take two of these people who are like, they're at that breaking point for just to blow. Putting either one of those guys in that spot is... Look, if commentary ever is getting boring, you should look into matchmaking because that's a pretty good spot to turn guys into superstars.

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Harrington, you've already got a job. I sent you a massive, massive life-changing Christmas bonus. You don't need to kiss my ass. The believers are not going to like it, okay? They're not going to like it. They prefer it when you give me shit, and I prefer it when you give me shit and disagree with me. Brian, can you just digitally give Harrington a slap in some way, shape or form?

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That's two demerits. We'll talk about it later.

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Yes, exactly.

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I know. Photoshop my face over one of those guys, Jake Gyllenhaal, was slapping in the parking lot. There you go.

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Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Just make me do three hours of work to punish you.

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Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, exactly. No, no. That was the thing I was thinking about before when I said they had the Stockton Slap and they had the Chael, Hey, I can't get you too close. Somebody said on Twitter, they said they really up here because when Connor goes in that opening scene, he says, We're going to have a smashing time. They said they really missed the trick by not being a dolly. Instead of whatever it is, I think he's got a shovel or a baseball. He said it should have been a dolly. I thought that was pretty funny. Today's episode is sponsored by Shopify. And if you are a businessman, if you are a businesswoman, an entrepreneur, or If you simply have an idea, it's time to turn the idea into a reality. And that is what Shopify is going to let you do. It's going to allow you to have an idea, create a business, get online, sell the product to everyone on the Internet, take payment methods and do it all quick, easily, convenient, and more importantly, cheaply. Shopify will even let you sell across all social media marketplaces like TikTok, Facebook, and Instagram.

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So is he's trending down in Mexico, leading fans to speculate at a comeback for the former champion. I'd like to see this, actually. I'll follow again. I know you follow me.

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That's all I needed.

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Nice. It looked like you were holding pads for him there, Harrington. There's a significant belly on that pad holder. I don't know what it is. Whenever I'm training and you're walking in, the training is really fired out of shape. I'm like, I'm sure you've got a lot of wisdom in there, but come on, bro. Have a bit of self-respect. What do you think? Do you think that'll be the main event for UFC 300?

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I don't know. The way Dana was talking about it, I watched his live yesterday. I tuned in when he was promoting Power Slap, and then he was talking about different fights at 300. And the way he was saying it, it's like, Oh, it'll blow your mind. We're not sure if the fans can even handle the main events that we're talking about. So it's like that leads me to think, maybe not, but you know what I mean? It just leads me to think that there's Something that I'm not processing.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. From what you just said there, sounds like something we wouldn't expect. Izzy versus Drick, it seems a very logical matchup. So I see what you're saying now. That does have me excited or intrigued as to what that could be. Anyway, no fight to talk about this weekend. So we're going to go straight to the question zone. If you have one, please send it in. A video question, of course, send it into bympod@gmail.

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All right, so we got two good questions here today. First one is from Mr. Ryan Thompson.

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Hey, what's up, BYM?

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I'm sitting here recovering from an ACL surgery from a wrestling accident.

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Do you guys have any suggestions, Anthony and Michael, about recovery and what I should do?

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Just had it done yesterday.

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I'm going to start PT in about five days.

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So, yeah, if you guys have any suggestions, another question, I'll make it quick.

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So I think with Dana White not announcing Conor McGregor's fight, what I bet, and I've never heard anybody say this, it's just out of my mind, is I think they're going to let Roadhouse drop top because McGregor is going to be a big star in that. As soon as Roadhouse drops and Conor's name is big and out there, I think they're going to announce this fight. So what do you think about that? I just want to say I love the show so much.

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Harrington, you're the man. Thank you for showing my clip on the show.

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And Brian, love your views on things. And overall, guys, you run a fantastic program. All right, take it easy.

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Well, thank you very much, Ryan. What did he say? Torn ACL or partially torn or just an ACL injury?

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He just said injury.

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Yeah, that's what I thought he said. Follow the doctor's orders. You know what I mean? Don't follow Mike Harrington's advice or my advice. Statistically, historically, I have not recovered well from things. Do you know what I mean? When my eye messed up, I didn't necessarily follow doctor's orders. You know what I mean? Because you think you're invincible. You think you can do it better. I was told not to move and all the rest of it. I was only walking, but it still caused other problems. I probably spar too soon. When it comes to the leg or anything like that, just follow exactly what the doctors say, because it's just such a common thing. We don't listen to the doctors because we think we know best. You know what I mean? All the time. Yesterday, I was in the doctors yesterday. I'm getting this neck procedure done soon. Yesterday, they had to do another test. You know what I mean? Where So I went in yesterday, numbed all my neck, stuck about 20 needles in or whatever the hell it was, just as another test. And yeah, I've got not much pain now, only the last 24 hours.

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Now they'll do the real thing. But even there, they were like, Okay, you need this bandaid on, like a huge, massive bandaid. Leave that on for 24 hours so it doesn't get wet. I walked out, I ripped it off straight away. Do you know what I mean? It's not comfortable to wear. I don't need a giant bandaid on my neck. Do you know what I'm saying? Now, if I get infected and some shit gets Listen to my bloodstream, then we know why. So as I say, don't listen to me. Listen to the doctors. They went and studied for a very long time. They know what they're talking about most of the time.

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I remember when I blew up my ankle, when I came out to see you and I was unfortunately in a walking boot, couldn't get any training in while I was out there. It's still one of the biggest regrets for me ever. But I remember I definitely did push myself a little bit because it's like, I got the stem cell shot. I feel fine. And it's like, I didn't do any PT with that. I still feel a limp. I still walk with a bit of a limp to this day. And it's like, why are we so stubborn? Why can't you just listen to a doc? Do what the doctor says because you're going to be in your body for quite a while, hopefully.

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Was it Jordan Peterson? I think I read in his book, he was talking about if a doctor prescribes his medication, that's good for us, a lot of the time we don't take it up. But if a vet prescribes you medication for your dog, you will make sure that that dog gets that medication every single day. You routinely do it. You put it in his food however it is that you give the dog the medicine. So I forget what the point of it was, but it was a very interesting take because he's right, because you do. If I get antibiotics or anything like that, I always forget to take. I do. But if it's the dog, and it's not that we care more about our dogs, but When it comes to us, we abandon our own self-interest at times, which is strange when you think about it.

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But I think it's like, I think it is that I know better, right? I know my own body. I feel fine. Why would I continue to listen to what this doctor said when I'm feeling fine? You don't know how your dog's feeling. Your dog can't tell you, Hey, I don't need that medicine anymore. I'm feeling fine. The dog's fighting you on taking the medicine from day one.

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They're having their medicine, Harry. Shut the hell up. Thank you for the question, Ryan. Not going dignify the second part with a response. I don't think the UFC are waiting for Roadhouse to drop so that paper view sales go through the roof. Connor's already a gigantic superstar when it comes to the sport of mixed martial arts and paper view. One to 10 is names in most of them. You know what I mean? So I don't think they're waiting for that. But it will be interesting to see when they do announce his fight. Still, and I'm looking forward to it. Next question, please, Brian.

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Excuse me. We got a question here from Mr. Autry Poore.

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What's up? My name is Autry Poore from the Jamaican Republic, and I've been competing in judo since I was six.

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I was on the judo national team for a while.

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And well, I recently retired because of college and work and whatever.

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Well, three questions.

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Number one is, how many days a week do you think that it takes to up training to at least maintain a level of skill?

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Number two, have you guys ever tried judo?

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Because people say wrestling is the hardest martial art, but I've tried wrestling, it's not even close to judo.

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Number three, do you think that judo has a place in MMA?

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Do you think the people like Abib and Padi Pimble are using it.

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Well, Let me know. All right. Well, thank you very much. Shouts out the Dominican Republic. Not a bad place to live. Let me see. Listen, wrestling is much harder than judo. I'm just going to throw it out there, spoken like a true judoka. I don't know what style of judo that you're playing down there, but wrestling is way harder. I was telling my wife about Liam McCourt has been doing updates on the Irish fighter that hurt himself recently. I was showing Rebecca yesterday. It's awful. And that was a wrestling injury. He got taken down with a body lock, and the arm was trapped. He couldn't post. He hit his head, and I think he's paralyzed from the neck downwards. My neck, which I'm getting treated, comes from wrestling. My knees, that came from wrestling. The wear and tear on the body. Callum had to stop his wrestling career because he had so many injuries and surgeries, and he's only 22 years old. So when he was done with college, he said, That's it. So not downplaying judo. I think it does have a place in mixed martial arts. A lot of the throws are very useful.

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You'll see, for example, DC labels it a wizard kick, but it's a judo throw. They It may be a wizzer kick where you use your hips and you've got the wizzer, you got the overhook, and you're throwing your hip over. You're throwing them over your hip and then you kick your leg out. So wrestling used the same maneuver. They call it a wizzer kick. It's a variety. One of many, many different varieties of oh, goshy. That is a hip throw in Japanese terminology for you there. That's that Japanese jiu-jitsu black belt coming out. So, yeah, of course, we have Kyro Parisian, of course, Rhonda Rousie, Kyla Harrison. So many people have implemented judo at a very, very high level. It's a great martial art. It is. But don't think it's tougher than wrestling. No disrespect to any judokas. And then how many days a week? Well, you never lose it, bro. If the skill is acquired. Yeah, you got to keep your knife sharp. You got to keep the blade sharp. But yeah, man, it never goes away. It's like riding a bike. Once you instill that skill into you, it's very, very hard. You might get a little bit rusty, then it will come I'll come back very soon.

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But when I go and do jiu-jitsu, I don't do it very often. But when I go do jiu-jitsu, it's still there. I've forgotten some of it, but then after half a session, it all starts flooding back and the cerebral cortex and the neural pathways open up, and there you go. Next minute, you're submitting everything, you're in the room. Do you know what I mean? And that could be you one day in the Dominican Republic. Thank you for the question, Brian. We got no more. We got a silly one. We got a stupid one. We got a goddamn ridiculous one just for shits and giggles.

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We have some older dated ones, but nothing that's really relevant right now.

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Okay. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that's the show. Thank you very much. Enjoy the weekend. We'll be back with Anthony Smith on Monday.