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On today's episode of the Believe You Me podcast, we are joined by probably what was one of the hottest free agents in the sport of mixed martial arts. I am, of course, talking about Michael Venham-Page. He was signed with the UFC, not with the PFL. What's going on, Mike? How are you doing, buddy?

I'm good, man. How are you, bro?

I'm good, brother. I'm good. So you joined us on Tells from the Octagon. Thank you very much. Great to have you there. And when you were on there, I said, Who are you fighting? Or, sorry, Who are you signing with? And it sounded like you were going full bore, PFL, sounded like the contract was done, sounded like Cedric Doumbé, I believe, was the opponent. What the hell happened?

I got to keep people guessing, man. I couldn't just give it everything on the table. You know what I mean? I have to keep everyone guessing. So it's a little bit tricky to keep people talking. Yeah, it'll surprise everybody.

Yeah, I certainly did that. So you're making your debut on UFC 299, which is looking like one of the most stacked cards. But without going into too much private details, I don't expect anything too much. But what was the deciding factor in signing with the UFC? And I'm not trying to instigate anything negative about the PFL, the great organizations.

Yeah, definitely. To be fair, it was difficult. Obviously, PFL are really pushing hard and it looked like they're onto something quite big. It looks very well-structured and so on and so forth. But for me, and I even had this conversation with them, I was like, in order to turn my head away from UFC, it would have to be a ridiculous offer. We went back and forth and I wasn't able to get to that place. But I think it's good to have this competition, especially for fighters. And I've always said that from when I was first growing up in the MMA world. It's great for fighters to have this competition and have another organization to be able to go to. So I wish them all the best. But yeah, the UFC has been in my heart since joining MMA or the world of MMA. It's always seeing the likes of yourself and other great champions come up. It's always been something I have seen myself at least at one point in my career doing.

Yeah, absolutely. And I know for a fact, the UFC fans will be very happy to have you because you've always been a remarkable talent, not kissing your ass. The things you've achieved in the sport and what you've done in martial arts. Now, for those people that don't know, you have been a lifelong martial artist. You are what? A fifth, Dan? Yeah, a fifth, Dan. In kick-boxing, just to check your own case, Dan. Yeah, I also...

Laogar, kung fu, almost got it to the end. I was literally brown-sash Laogar Kongfu. And then obviously, later on, crossing over into the mixed martial arts world. But yeah, martial arts has been my life since the age of three. It's a family thing. So yeah, it's definitely close to my heart.

Let me just ask you about kung fu, because I'm a little, I'll say, ignorant when it comes to kung fu. I've never studied it. I've never done anything. And I think given mixed martial arts and its effectiveness, what's the word? Efficacy. That was the word doing the round throughout the pandemic. The efficacy. Efficacy? I've got it wrong again already. But anyway, kung fu, right? And I'm not asking you to disrespect the martial art, but how instrumental is that in a real-life combat situation?

For For mixed martial arts, I think there's limited things. But at the same time, my foundation, my style comes from there. So as much as it's limited, it did create what you see in MVP. We did a lot of traditional kata's. But at the same time, it's weird because we did laogar kung fu as an art, but we did kickboxing competitions for the fight. So obviously, it did lean into a A lot of my strength training and stuff came from laogar. My flexibility, my kicking ability all came from the laogar kung fu. And then I was able to execute those moves in the kickboxing. And then the kickboxing formed the style that you see in that I've now brought to the cage.

Yeah, and I guess doing martial arts from an early age, like that, it formats the brain because I did Japanese jiu-jitsu since I was a little kid. And whilst, again, some of it's usable, but a A lot of it is also things... A lot of it, you just wouldn't even attempt. You know what I mean? However, my brain was formatted so I could learn and pick things up very quickly. You've had an incredible career. You're known for your flashy knockouts. We talked about this, it tells from the octagon. I mean, I'll never forget denting cyborg evangelist's head. I mean, he threw a flying knee, damaged his head. How excited are you now to be in the UFC, which is widely regarded as the premier organization? What are your goals here, Mike? What are you looking to achieve?

To be fair, I'm going to make as much as possible. I already know the MVP that everyone's seen in Bellator. If I do even a quarter of the stuff in the UFC, it just makes crazy noise. And I know there's more to my game. But yeah, I'm looking to go for the belt. There's no point wasting time trying to grow. I want to get some exciting fights, go for the belt. I've already had a few interviews and spoken about how the magnitude of imagine me and Leon Edwards. Leon Edwards, hopefully, still has the belt, and I think he will. He's an exceptional fighter fighter. I come in, create some big noise, get a few big knockouts under my belt, and then go for the belt. And imagine me and him in the UK, trying to fill out a stadium somewhere. I think we can make that happen.

And that would be incredible. But of course, first, we're going to get through your debut opponent, who is Kevin Holland. And I think on paper, that's a tremendous match of both tall, long strikers. He's an entertaining guy. How do you feel about Kevin Holland?

Mate, he's great. I'm a fan of his work from just obviously being a fan of the game, watching him I'm seeing his fight, seeing how he talks. And like you say, the entertainment side of Kevin Holland, he's a game fighter. So I know I'm in for a fight. It's exciting. And it puts me right at the top. It's a big statement piece as well to go in and win against somebody like Kevin Holland. It's a big statement and it sets me on the right track. So I'm massively excited.

Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it's a perfect launching pad for you, UFC 299. It's a ridiculously stacked fight card. Kevin Holland is a fan favorite. Everybody knows the guy. He's got a colorful personality. And I think stylistically, that matchup is going to allow you to be you. Yeah, okay. He's got great jiu-jitsu, he's well-rounded, but he's not one of these hard core wrest that's just going to be shooting double legs, pushing you up against the fence. He's going to allow you to operate, so that must excite you.

Yeah, definitely. It just fits my style. But at the same time, it's not one-sided. He's competent in that area as well. So And he's long, he's awkward, he throws some crazy stuff that are all dangerous. You know what I mean? So that's what I mean. It just adds to the excitement of being at the UFC.

And I saw this. There was a bit of an interview this week, where you're doing the rounds. You guarantee Kevin Holland will not try and do a gentleman's agreement that nobody shoots for a take down, right?

I don't think he will. It made me funny. If you look at my history, a lot of people, initially, they see my style. Good strikers, they'll see my style. And from the outside, looking in, they're like, You know what? He can never do that. They're playing around and stuff with me. Then they get in the cage and they realize that I'm a lot faster than they would have expected. I'm a lot more tricky. I start playing around and it's like, You know what? Let me Let me just be a wrestler. Let me just shoot for his legs. And I've turned some amazing strikers into wrest in my career. And I just see it time and time again. Even in the gym, there's guys that I've inspired in the gym that are renowned strikers, and I know they come in here thinking, Yeah, I'm definitely going to get him. And a minute in, they're already shooting.

Exactly. Well, I can't wait. I look forward to it. I'm going to play a little game of word association with you in the rankings here, if you don't So you're coming in. Where's Kevin Holland here? Is he not in the rankings? He's got to be in the rankings. Where is he? I don't see his bloody name. But anyway, Ian Machado Gary. He's ranked number 10. How do we feel about Machado Gary?

Prospect.

Yeah, you're doing big things. Steven Wonderboy Thompson.

Amazing style. Spectacular.

That would have been one that I would have thought on paper as well. That must have been a front runner for the UFC, but I think he's got another match up. Gilbert Burns.

Just living legend. I'll say legend, yeah. I've loved watching him for many years now. I'm still at the top of his game. So amazing.

And he's one of the nicest guys as well. He's just a class size from start.

I've only met him once, but yeah, even in that interaction, you can see he's just very respectful.

Obviously, the next fight for the I believe at 17 is going to be Bilal Mohamed, Leon Edwards. I'll say I favor Leon in that one. We've seen that one before. And I think other than yourself, Leon has the ability to go on and defend the belt many times. The one fly in that And the appointment, I believe, is Shavkat Rachmanov. 17 and 0, 17 finishes. What do you think about Shabqat?

Tough guy, but I see holes. I see I see a few holes there that can be exploited. Obviously, you can say it from the outside, but I see a few holes that can be exploited, and that's another exciting fight.

Yeah, listen, you're always so humble, Mike. You know what I mean? You will not talk shit about anyone. And I love that about you because when people watch you fight, you walk out and you've got so much swagger. You look like the cockiest bastard ever, but you back it up. But then when I first met you, I'm like, he's the nicest, nice Jesus, guy. There's no controversy. You were probably like, what am I doing here? It tells from the Oxconn because the London show got a bit out of hand. But the trash talking side of things, Mike, you know what I mean? That's a very popular thing these days. What do you make in the current climate? A lot of people are saying a lot of nasty shit these days.

Yeah, personally, I don't like it. Obviously, I'm bound to my martial arts heritage and how I've been growing. Like, I bow in sure respect coming into the gym, bow to my coaches, bow to leave the gym. I've just grown with that level of respect. I don't mind the trash talking a little back and forth and it's a hyper fight, but I feel like there should be... Well, there was. I feel like there was back in the day, there was a gentleman's agreement that it stays amongst me and you because me and you get to settle it in the cage. I feel like Conor McGregor's wave of just how he exploded onto the sea in his personality. I always like to I think everybody is drawn to what's genuine. That is genuinely him. But then you got the people that come up after him that try to replicate what he's done in hope that they're going to get the same traction, and then it just gets ugly. I think it's those guys coming through now that's trying a bit too hard and not being honest with themselves. And it's getting a bit, yeah, it's getting out of hand, a bit too disrespectful.

There are certain things I'm hearing. I'm like, If it's said to me, then I don't know if I meet you in the cage or I meet you in the car park. And that's just honestly speaking.

See, there it is. There's the real MVP coming out. When the PR agents aren't around, when your manager's not there, it's like, This guy said what? You touch on something there, Mike, because you've got a traditional martial arts background, as did earlier in the day, back when mixed martial arts first came around, we were all martial artists. Now it's changed because the sport is so big and now it's 30 years old. There's people that see it on TV and they want to They see it as a career path as opposed to being a martial artist and then testing themselves and slowly grinding and thinking, I'll go to the UFC and go against the best in the world. What do you think about the current state of affairs in that regard? Because there is people now, they start off with the UFC in mind. Do you think there's been a shift in the mindset and the talent of people?

Yeah, there's definitely been a shift, but I'm hoping, and it feels like still a lot of the coaches are still around in terms of that they're still got a bit of the old school mentality. So as much as these guys are joining with no background of martial arts, and just learning mixed martial arts, they are learning from, for the most part, guys that do have a background and do have traditional values and stuff. So I think it does change when it comes to the PR side of things. But I think just from what I see with a lot of the guys that I've worked with, trained with, and listened to who their coaches are, they're still there. So again, I think it's going to take a little bit longer before it is complete wipe out. It is just complete the new coaches and the new mixed martial life.

Yeah, the new generation The George St. Pierre's and people like that, the slowly, but surely. We're all getting too old. Thirty-six years old now, though, Mike. In a perfect world, what is your trajectory? How many fights do you think it will take? Because you have got a big name. You have an incredible record. You've done some incredible... You've had some massive moments inside a ring or a cage. For those people who don't know, you fought all over the world. You've done professional boxing, kick boxing until the cows come home. Only two losses in your storied career as well. What is the perfect path towards the title for you?

Perfect path, the defeat Holland, make a big statement. And if good enough, I might be right there, but for the dangling waiting for the title, or I have one more just to prove myself. And then again, I'm I'm not for the title. As you say, I'm in it for a good time, not a long time. So I'm looking to make noise and make steps very quickly.

Obviously spending a lot of time in Bellator and other organizations. Have you always kept up with the UFC? And are you a fan? Do you watch the fight so you can talk about some of the fights and stuff?

Yeah, it's weird. I class myself as a casual fan because it's usually the big name, the big hype, fights that get hyped. And are they the ones I go back and watch for the big events, I'll sit down and watch them. But it's usually I get to the gym and the guys are talking about, Oh, this, that, that, that, that. Oh, this person did this and that. And then I go back and watch the fights.

So I'm just looking at your record here. You made your debut in 2012. Tornado kick right off the bat. You know what I mean? Saying the stall out high. As you say, you're a bit of a casual, if you will. Well, if you're a casual fan, like a lot of people are, Sugar Sean O'Malley is main inventing your debut card, UFC 99 in Miami, Florida. Sean O'Malley, Chido Vera, you got any thoughts on that matchup?

Yeah, to be fair, I think Sean O'Malley has just impressed me. Every step that he's taken, every step that he's gone forward and every fight that he's gone forward, I've just been more and more impressed with him. His timing, his precision, accuracy, he doesn't really waste too much His set-ups, you can tell he's a very intelligent fighter. And even when I've heard him talk, I think it was on Joe Rogan's podcast, and you can tell he really studies the art. He really pays attention. So, yeah, my money is all on O'Malley, definitely.

He's going against my coach, Jason Perillo. That's our guy, Venom. My God. The Believe You Me podcast wouldn't be the Believe You Me podcast without one Mike Harrington. He's our producer, Brian McCain, the background. I think Brian just got out of bed, so I'm not going to ask him to jump on the screen. But Harrington, are you there? Because you're going to get to Miami. There he is. You're going to get to Miami. And to get to Miami, you got to get on a plane. But I don't know if you know this, getting on planes these days isn't the most... It's not the safest thing just lately in America. Harrington, the floor is yours.

Yeah. So they found this crazy thing. An Alaska Airlines flight happened. It was going over the Pacific Northwest. There was a bolt that was wrong with the door, and it ended up coming off of the plane mid-flight.

I saw. Yeah, I saw this.

The door of the plane landed in someone's backyard in Portland, Oregon. Someone's phone got sucked out of the plane. Somebody found it on the ground, still working and open to the Alaska Airlines, where to get your bag part. So shout out to the iPhone. But they found when they looked at-Lady China. Yeah. Dude, they looked at the entire Alaska Airlines fleet, and they found that nine other planes were at risk of having this exact same thing happen to them. And in the wake of it now, the FAA is saying, you shouldn't fly with babies or children on your lap because they're as much of a danger as that iPhone to be sucked out of the plane.

I saw the news this morning. They said, Yeah, there were several babies on that flight, but they weren't close enough to the door. Had they been a bit closer, the babies would have been sucked off their lap. It's not funny. It's It's terrifying. What would you do if you were on a plane, Mike, and the door gets sucked off? It's a stupid question. You shit your pants.

This is where I'm hoping that my training and grappling training pays off and I start holding as tight as I can for the seat.

Get that seat belt on. Are you a nervous flyer, Mike?

Not even a flyer. I've been flying since I was I'm too young, so I've never been fast.

Yeah, no, it's mental. The state of things these days. Even the doors are flying off. Absolutely ridiculous. And then last night, I saw there was some air traffic controller having an argument with a pilot. I saw it on Twitter. Now, granted, you can't believe everything you see on Twitter, but this air traffic controller was arguing with the pilot who's been a pilot for 15 years. And this woman said, No, you got to do this. And the pilot said, No, that's wrong. And she She says, No, I know it's correct because I've googled it. To a pilot that's been flying 15 years, she's still googling the rules, man. The world's going crazy. That's crazy.

The world is definitely going crazy, man. We're living in scary times right now.

Scary times, my brother. So back to the fight with Kevin Holland. How do you think this fight plays out?

Again, I think, you know what? He's such a tough guy. He's always It's really hard to decipher, but I just see me just dissecting him, landing a lot of precise, very powerful shots, which will make him want to change his game plan. Instead of trying to stand there and strike with me, he may try a few other things. Once that fails, or if he attempts to go for these things, he might run into a knee, he might run into a punch, he might run into an elbow. And if he still doesn't fall over, I just see him being a hot mess by the end of it when they raise my hand.

Oh, a hot mess by the end of it. Let's go. I love Kevin Holland, though, as well. So shout out Kevin Holland. He's a great guy. The grappling side of things, Mike, how do you think you're fair? Because the UFC, a lot of wrestlers in there, a lot of Dagner Stanis, a lot of powerhouse, division one, all-Americans. How is the take down defense, Mike? It's just going to force me out of my game.

You know what I mean? I got a lot of few bad habits, and it's due to the style, unfortunately. So if I was solely wrestling, I'm fine. If I'm solely I'm doing grappling, I'm fine. Due to the style, how my stance is, it can play a little bit of... It changes the way I have to do everything. But it just forced me to out my game and correct those mistakes and fix those things, and that's it. The thing is people, first and foremost, find it hard to even get to me. I've been in the cage many a time and they struggle to even get to my legs just because of the movement. But if they do, again, it forced me to out my game.

Yeah, I think that's what people don't I'm trying to think. There was a fight recently. It was Kolby. Kolby versus Leon, and people were saying, he's not shooting. And he wasn't shooting. Kolby didn't do much. It wasn't the most incredible bar and bust in five. But I think a lot of that was due to what Leon was doing, the way he was moving, the way he was switching stances. And then also the doubt that goes into people's minds, because as soon as you shoot, you can walk onto a knee, an elbow, whatever, and it's wasted energy. So I see you repping London shoot fighters there. You've been with them since day one in M&A?

Yeah, from the beginning, man. From the beginning. So I'm loving it.

Yeah. London shoot fight is one of the first ever gyms, and they're no strange as to prepping people like yourself to get ready for the best. They know the game inside and out. So UFC, does it feel like this was always destined to be?

Yeah, a little bit. It's still a bit surreal. Even seeing Dana mention my name, still a bit surreal. And then I think as I'm going to get closer and closer to the fight, I'm still going to have that bit of like, oh, shit, I'm in the UFC. But I've always raised up to the occasion, so I'm looking forward to it still.

So you've got Sean O'Malley beating Marlon Vera, Dustin Poey, Benwa Sandini, Gilbert Birge, Jack De La Madeleine, Kevin Holland, Michael Vennen-Page. It's going to be hard to stand out on this card because normally you would come in and deliver some crazy knockout and people will be talking about it. But this fight card is absolutely mental.

If I do what... I think I actually do believe, though, because everybody else are existing UFC fighters. I think just the question mark over my name makes my fight very interesting. I think a lot of people are going to be paying attention just because they want to know. They want to know the answer. Can I hang in the UFC? Is he at that standard? So regardless of, I always say the same thing. I'll say it when I was in Bellator, I could be the first fighter of the night. I still class myself as the main event because people want to see me and people are always entertained by me when I'm in the cage.

Yeah, no, absolutely. You did have two boxing matches. Is the boxing side of things that's done?

It's definitely done now.

Exactly.

You have to not letting that happen. So it's definitely done now. But yeah, I'm a martial artist. I love to lean in and try different or just test myself in different ways. I definitely would have done it more back then, but We had some political issues in the background. And then I tried the bare-knuckle as well. To be fair, I actually had a lot of fun. I didn't get the result I wanted. I felt like I got the result. I got the result, but I didn't get the result I wanted. But I had fun. I always had to push and challenge myself. But for now, the main challenge is the UFC now. Can I get to the top?

Yeah, of course. You're talking about the fight with Mike Perry. Mike Perry, if there's one person on planet Earth that is suited to Bear Knuckle, it is that man. He's an He's an animal.

Definitely. He's found his place, and it's nice because I do like him. He's a great character.

Cool guy.

So yeah, he's found his place. It's nice to see him, regardless not necessarily making the success that he wanted in the UFC. He's now fallen into this thing that is just perfect for him.

Yeah. Now, another thing that stuck out to me when I did meet you finally in person was the size of you. 6'3, you're a big dude. Making 170 pounds, that's going to be a pain in the ass, Mike.

Yeah. To be fair, for some reason, I don't know what it is about. Everyone says, even in the gym, from one week, I look massive. And then the second I know I got a fight, all of a sudden they're like, Wait, have you lost that much weight? My body just like, Yeah, we're ready to go. I've never found it too much of a struggle at all. So this is why I've continued to stay in that. Obviously, they say, as you get older, it gets harder. I have felt that a little bit, but even still, I managed to make it.

It's funny because I used to experience the same thing because when I knew I had a fight coming up, all of a sudden my appetite wasn't what it was and things like that. And I think that was my brain subconsciously just taking over everything in my body because I knew I couldn't go out and be binging and eating crappy food. I had to have a restricted amount of calories. So I just thought, my brain was sending subliminal messages. I don't know how that works, but as a martial artist, you could probably- Mine is a powerful place, man.

So, yeah, I definitely believe in that. And I just let my body just Because I know it's happened before. I just let my body get to work. I've never missed weight. Never missed weight.

So this time next year, Michael Vennen page, Leon Edwards in a stadium in the UK. Do you know Leon? Do you have a personal relationship?

Yeah, I definitely know him. And as I say, I don't feel similar to what we were talking about earlier. I don't feel like we need animosity to necessarily build a fight where both prize fighters, we both got an established name. If I go I'm not going to do what I know I can do in the UFC cage. We're going to make some noise and people are going to be looking for this fight. We just need to just touch hands, rock it out, and then hug afterwards, regardless of the result. Let's go.

Yeah, I would love to see it. I would love to see it. Well, listen, Mike, no doubt you're getting ready. How is preparation is coming along?

Tough, my coach is on my neck. He's all right. He's not messing around.

When do you fly out to Miami?

They're trying to finalize that now. However, they want me to go out a little bit earlier. But to be fair, because my family are there. I go back. I literally just came back from there. I never really have any jet lag and stuff going to Miami, so I might not need to acclimate that. So maybe just been a week off.

Yeah, it's not bad. Was it five hours, something like that? Listen, Mike, We'll let you get back to it. I'll let you get training. Thanks for your time today. No, thank you. Thanks for joining us on tales from the Ox. Did you enjoy yourself? Oh, he's gone. He's gone. He's fucking out of it. Oh, there he is. I was like, he's not messing around. He's got a training session to get to. Anyway, Hey, thanks for joining us in London, mate. I hope you enjoyed yourself.

Man, listen, even the first time I came down, love listening to your story. It's very inspirational in terms of what you had to go through to get to the title. And I feel like you've even, I think I said it to you. I feel like you found your place. You're so comfortable on stage, man. You got such a great presence, great energy, great character. It was a blessing to be there. Thank you for inviting me.

No, you're the man, mate. All the best to get Kevin Holland. Sadly, I won't be there, but I will be watching, mate. Big fan. A lot of respect, and thanks for your time.

Nice one, man. Take care, man.

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When's the last time Kevin Holland came on this show? Mvp was just here, so I got to go with Michael Ben and Page.

That's it. You pick with who comes on the show, friends of the show. Kevin Holland has been on a couple of times, though.

He's been on plenty, but so has Michael Ben and at this point. Like I said, when your neck and neck is guest at this point, whoever did it last. So, Black man, the ball is in your court. Anytime you want to come on the show, Kevin, try to win my vote.

They're both Black men, Harrington. So you are coming out with some choice descriptions lately.

You're the one who reminded me he's the superhero Black man.

He is the superhero Black man, and that's a fantastic fight. I can't wait for Michael Vanden page. But last night, Dana White took to Instagram announcing UFC 300. Another fight, Jean-Wai Lee versus Jan Hzhaunan. Thoughts on that one, Harrington.

My first thought was, oh, title fight for UFC 300. We're definitely getting Leon versus Balal announcement, right? Nope. I don't know. I'm happy for this fight.

No, it's a tremendous fight. I mean, Zhang Weili is phenomenal. All Chinese affair, Chinese champion versus Chinese contender. I think it's a tremendous fight. I think it's going to bring a lot of eyeballs from the other side of the planet. I was a little surprised that he didn't do that in China, though, because obviously, Janweili is incredible. I love watching a fight. That fight with Jan Jajet was unbelievable. I think Dana went through some of the stats last night when she fought Amanda Lemo. She was something like 280 strikes to 21. So the output is phenomenal. She's an amazing champion. We're still yet to see what the main event is, though. So far, what have we got? Ufc 300. Let's have a look. What have we got, Houndin?

What's been announced? We have A4 versus Aljimane Sterling. I know that one's on there. Rakich versus Yuri Prohasca. Yeah.

Yeah.

Cody Brundage.

Nicole Brundage, Yuri Prohasca and Rakich, Charles Olive, Armin Saarukian, Janweili Janjaunan as the first title fight. There's going to be another title fight. If you had to guess, what do you think? And I know we're pounding this story. We're beating it to death. But last time we said Jim Miller versus Brock Lesner, we were having a laugh. I spoke to Jim Miller. Obviously, he's in action this weekend at the fight meetings, and he brought it up. What's up, Brian?

That's the biggest news from last episode. I've seen it on literally everything. Anthony Smith says, Jim Miller beats Brock Lesner. It's wild.

Me and Owlets, they love to run with the story. So you stay on, Brian. I did a little thing on my YouTube channel the other day, and I said maybe Brock Lesner versus Tom Aspinal. And I was joking when I said it. I wasn't deadly serious that that was going to happen. Well, there's multiple stories now. The Daily Mail, as we know, we're going to trust them. They are a very respectable outlet. They're running with the story. Macle bisping says it's Tom Aspinal versus Brok Lesna. I'm like, Shut the fuck up. It was a joke.

I mean, dude, that's a great fight, and I don't think anybody's not going to pay to see it. So just roll with it, dude. Take the job as matchmaker.

People are making stretches because there's been no fights. It's like they're really picking up for some news.

Now, Harrington, I will say this, and no offense, people are annoyed about the quiz that you didn't give the answers to every question. People are like, I wanted to know the answer. You didn't give all of the answers, Harrington.

I feel like I did. But here's the thing. I have it all in a Google Doc. I I'll release it from the BYM Twitter so you guys can look through it and quiz your friends. The only flak I got from that quiz was people saying it was far too hard, got to dumb it down for next year. Not for you guys, but for the people listening at home. They want to play along. You get some answers right. Well, they're not competing for all this clout.

I agree, though. They were hard questions. And you know what? Here's a question you could have asked, because we're talking about Tom Aspenal and Jon Jones, right? That's a big story. They're going back and forth on Twitter. We've talked about it a lot. Orlowski is fighting this weekend, and I'm commentating the fight, and how good is it to have fights back? My God. Oh, and by the way, Harrington, I saw your little thing about how to turn a bet into $50,000. By when was that?

By UFC 300.

Yeah. Job well done. If you're not following Mike Harrington, give him a follow. What is it? Dm Harrington?

Yes, sir. Thank you so much.

And B. Mckay is right. Give the guys a follow. So anyway, I'm commentating this weekend, so I was looking up Andre Olofsky. And because of Tom Aspenal, people are like, Well, when has an interim champion ever defended a belt? Andre Olofsky was an interim champion and defended the interim belt, according to Wikipedia. I did not know that.

Wasn't Hennie Burau's entire run an interim champion as well, if I'm not mistaken, because Dominic Cruz was out. I think he defended the interim belt against TJ. Then eventually, TJ got graduated, as far as I remember. But it's not that crazy to defend an interim belt. So I wouldn't look past that at Did you see that John Jones came out?

He basically said, Listen, I've done everything I can. I don't need to prove myself. And he alluded to retirement. If you can just pull up that tweet, Brian, if you get a chance. But what did you think of that, Harrington?

Well, I don't like Somebody like John Jones, who I know is a student of the fight game. He tweets almost as much as Conor McGregor during these UFC events. So for him to come out and say, I don't know who 50% of your resume is, when Andre Arlowski is on that resume, get out of here, Jon Jones. You are selling Wolf tickets with that one.

Now, hold on, listen. Arlowski is about 97 million years old. He's a legend. He's a future Hall of Fame. He's a former champion. He defended the undisputed champion as well. Here's Jon Bones Jones. Yeah, I'm terrified. Wasn't that one? No matter who would have won that interim Championship, the narrative will still be the same. The goal is getting older now and he's running from fights. Thirty-six-year-old lifelong champion, starting to contemplate retirement. What a chicken. Yeah, it wasn't that one, Brian, but all good. Never mind. What was he going to say? Yeah, look, listen. I said if Jon Jones doesn't fight Tom Aspenal, he's got to get through steep here first, granted. If he doesn't, the narrative will always be that he was avoiding him. And a lot of people have come out in the comment section of my YouTube channel and said, no, love you, Bishbind, but disagree with you completely there. What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I mean, it's a little... It is odd, right? Because We both expected, and I think everybody did, heading into the MSG card that was planned, Steve A versus Jon Jones. I feel like we expected to see at least one of them retire, if not both. So now, because someone's been injured and there is an interim champion, and there is, quote unquote, someone to run from, that person at the top of the mountain who has a belt who isn't Jones or Steepay, that just puts the target right back on him when he might have made that decision eight, nine months ago that he wants Steepay to be his last fight ever.

Well, exactly. And I was going to say that. I was going to say playing devil's avocado. Just because someone decides to retire doesn't mean they're ducking somebody. I'm just saying I don't think that casuals would come to that conclusion, but still, George is a legend. Harvattend, big MMA story. What have we got? Throw something in others.

All right. Well, I just want to give you some props because last episode, When the announcement came out that Armin Sarukin was fighting Charles Oliveira, you said, Uh-oh, that's setting all some sensors in my head. I think Islam is about to fight Justin Gechi. Well, Islam Makachev agrees. He says that, Yeah, you can make Oliveira versus Sarukian, the number one contender fight, but he wants to get active earlier. He said he's targeting Justin Gechi for a June eighth fight, and then the winner of Sarukian versus Oliveira in November in MSG, followed up by another fight in February of 2025, so we can get a third one in before Ram on next year.

You've got to respect that, to be honest. There is a guy that's a champion. He defended against Vokunovski, but he's calling out the toughest fight. Justin Geci, no walking apart for anybody. Everybody wants to see that the winner of Arman, Sourukian and Oliveira There are, again, incredible. He announced June eighth as the date. There's already a paper view that's international fire week, Connor versus Chandler. So it looks like... I mean, I don't know if you should have been saying that. I'm not breaking the news. Is that Makhachev broke the news? But two paper views that month, I would love to see it. It keeps me busy. I love that.

Oh, man, that would be... Wait, so you're saying the Connor fight, is that date, the June eighth date?

Well, I'm only saying, no, no, June 29th.

Okay, so there is going to be... Okay, I got you.

So two pay-per-views. Yeah, June 29th. Well, Connor said that date. We haven't had an official announcement yet from the UFC, but I was looking for concepts to go to because I went to Depech more with Beck recently, and we had a brilliant time. So I was looking to see what else was around. And I looked at the T-Mobile website, and as I looked on there, it's penciled in TBD International Fireweek, Connor versus Chandler. So, yeah, there you go.

That would be honestly, I want to see those two on a card together. Oh, yeah. Just imagine Islam and Connor at the same press conference table, just bringing up all the old Dagostani rivalry. That gets my juice as flow.

No, it does. We were talking to You've talked about MVP before about babies getting sucked out of airplanes. I mean, what a horrific, horrific thing to just imagine. You imagine sitting on a plane, the door gets ripped off, and your baby gets sucked out of your lap and Out the door.

I'd like to not imagine that ever. It's giving me... I'm literally sweating just thinking about it. But I do think... I don't know, dude. I just picture how tightly my wife holds onto the baby when we fly with her. Do you think it would suck it out of your arms? Yes.

Well, they're saying, Apparently, that flight, it was only at 60,000 feet. If it was at 30,000 feet, then the pull, the suction would have been a lot more, and people would have got sucked out of there as well. So it doesn't matter. If you're just holding a baby and a door gets ripped off, then all of a sudden you've got ridiculously powerful wins. I'm sorry, Harrington. Baby Aura is going for a ride.

Dude, this is making me so nervous. And when you texted this to me earlier, my first thought was, they They're doing this as a way to generate revenue so that I'm going to have to buy a ticket for my baby.

You're sounding like Brian right now. Brian, Conspiracy Corner time. Brian, this is what he texted me. He said, Oh, they're just doing it to sell, to insist that you have to buy a seat for your baby because now they're saying you're going to put babies in a car seat and strap them in.

Yeah, they explosively decompressed a plane to make that point. No, that sounds right, Harrington. You're right.

Yeah, so they're going to put fear The fear of God into all of their passengers seem like an unworthy airline just so they can sell a few more tickets?

Well, I mean, look, we know how quick these planes are being turned around constantly. We've completely done away with any expectations of customer service in the air in the pursuit of getting just $5 off of a plane ticket. So would it make sense for them to run a plane until it's at the breaking point? No. For them to then make With more money selling tickets?

No, that's not what it is. I can't remember who said this, but the collapse of society will show in our airports first. That's really what's happening. It's because all this DEI bullshit where people are just hiring to fill quotas instead of skill, this is what you get. You get low-quality shit. And when it comes to a life or death situation, when it relies on everybody being as high in aptitude as It's impossible at the thing that they're doing, when you start hiring people just to fill quotas, you're going to that up. So you get stuff like this, like bolts from doors not getting secured and shit falling off.

No, you're absolutely right, Brian.

This is it.

You're absolutely right. Elon Musk has been quite vocal on Twitter X calling this stuff out, and rightly so. Listen, equal opportunities is fantastic, and there is a place for that. But meritocracy has to come first. It It really does. And I've just sent you a link, Brian, to what I was talking about with MVP. I saw this last night on Twitter, and this just blew my mind. It's a pilot with 15 years experience arguing with an air traffic controller. And she's like, Yeah, I've googled it. I've googled it. We got to hear this conversation. I don't know what a short landing is. Rebecca's father, Graham, shout out to the G-Man. He will. So I sent it to him to find out I don't know what this is, but no response yet.

I watched this this morning.

Did you really? Get it on screen and have a quick look.

This made me so angry.

For a short approach, if you're going to do a power off 180, that's my point.

Well, okay.

I will remember that from now on.

No problem.

When you ask for a short approach, I expect you to turn your base to be in the numbers. I just want to be a full stop for 6:05, Charlie, and maybe we need to talk about that some more because you're the first controller in 15 years that's ever said that. Well, if you ask for a short approach, a short approach is when you turn your base above the numbers. If I know you're a student asking for a short approach, I know you're out there practicing and you probably will extend.

But if you're doing something other than a short approach, don't ask for a short approach.

Well, I will definitely look up the definition of short approach because I've never seen where it says you turn base of beam the numbers.

Because I don't see how you could possibly do that.

Well, I googled it, actually. I googled short approach, and it said to turn your base a beam or before the numbers, and you will land probably, touched down around this field. All right, we could leave that there. So the air traffic controllers are googling what to do. Now, I don't know if this was a DEI thing. You know what I mean? It has to be. People are assuming it is. But anytime an air traffic controller, that is... I mean, that probably wasn't a commercial flight, but regardless, regardless Regardless, I mean, googling the rules mid-flight, that doesn't sound like the best course of practice.

I think he had passengers. I think that was a commercial flight. Oh, really? Yeah. From what I remember, I thought he already had 77 people aboard. I could be making that up. Yeah.

It's a wild time.

Isn't that one of those weird jobs, too, where they make you... They have a forced retirement age? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like you can't be more than 55 and be an air traffic controller or something like that.

Well, it's not that, but there's a hard limit on hours worked and all that other stuff. It's a super regulated job.

Yeah, rightly so. I mean, we're talking about people. We're talking about babies getting sucked out of goddamn area. A plane. I don't know what a short landing is, so we'll leave that one there. But if you're getting on a plane, make sure you put your seatbelt on. Have you seen that Key and Peel skit? Have you seen that one? When they're on a plane and one of them saying, Where's your seatbelt? And he said, I just the bathroom. And he's saying, Where are you sitting? But he said, Where's your seatbelt? He said, I just need the bathroom. And then he insists on getting out of his seat and then get sucked to the top of the plane and stuff. Have you seen that? Yes. That is goddamn hilarious. Key and Peel, they are funny. All right, this episode is sponsored to buy Prize pics, and Prize pics is the largest independently-owned daily fantasy sports platform in North America, and they are the easiest and most exciting way to play DFS, Daily Fantasy Sports. It's just you against the numbers. Instead of battling thousands of other plays, including pros and sharks, you just pick more or less.

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I'll tell you what else is rocking and rolling. Mike Perry. Mike Perry as Michael Vena Page said, I mean, the man's incredible. What he's doing in bare-knuckle is phenomenal. And there's a little video doing the rounds of him trying to secure a fight with Nate Diaz. Mike Perry, Nate Diaz, should be on UFC 300.

He said there's no one to fight.

Like, hi. You're trying to go make 75 grand, Mike?

I got Mike Maynard's number.

I'm going to call his ass and be like, Put me in Nate on 300.

Dude, do it. Call him right now and tell him you want Nate on 300.

It's not Mike Maynard It's Hunter Campbell.

What's up, you, lunatic?

Nate Dias says there's no one to fight on UFC 300. I'm saying me and Nate, you all could bring me back for the little purse, but then throw in the PPV points, and then we could have a great show for UFC 300.

I got a better idea.

I've got a better idea. Why don't you stop calling me mid podcast whilst filming me and recording me to do a fight negotiation? And by the way, why does Mike Perry look like, I don't know, a poor man's... Who is he? What's that film? I was going to say a Jews Bigelow, Male Jiggler. It's not that. No, Leaving Las Vegas. No, Boogie Nights. He looks like the character from Boogie Nights or something, Mike Perry, the porn All right. Mike Perry, Nate Diaz, call me stupid, but I like that fight.

Yeah, why wouldn't you? I mean, it's a fun, dynamic fight. It's a guy who... Two guys who have names outside of a belt, right? If you're talking about a BMF division, which you would consider Nate D as a front runner to fight for that first belt, Mike Perry certainly caught from that same cloth.

Yeah. Again, what Mike Perry has done is incredible, right? I think he's gathered a lot of fans. You know what I mean? The people that he's beaten, Michael Venin, Page being one in a close fight, Lou Rockhold another. Who else did he... Eddie Alvarez. Eddie Alvarez. Yeah, just recently. That was a goddamn war as well. Yeah, I like Mike Perry. He's a wild man, but he's a great guy. I'd like to see him back in the UFC, even if it is just one fight, two fights, whatever, against Nane Dias. But Nade Dias, though, came out this week. He's going to be boxing Jorge Masvidal, by all accounts.

Yeah, that's what it looks like. Somebody was saying there was an early March date on the calendar for it. So, yeah, Jake Paul, I know, came out and pooh-poohed it. He's like, Oh, you have big news. Nate's going to box Jorge. It's like, Well, no, though.

Well, Jake Paul is calling out Nade Dias constantly for a mixed martial arts fight. Do you know what I mean? So I'll tell you what, Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, rematch in the UFC. I'd rather see that than a boxy fight. No disrespect to Nate Dias. He didn't look all that in that boxy fight against Jake Paul. He let himself down in that one. Mixed martial arts, though, that is his forte. That's what he's best at. And a rematch with Jorge Masvidal, who's now coming back. I'd rather see that than Ben Askin, if I'm honest.

Right. So that was Hunter's actual response because I went and watched more of that clip. He said, You should convince Nate to come fight you and be KFC. And Perry's response was, No, Nate doesn't want to do that. He wants to use his jiu-jitsu again. So I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine anything. It making sense to eliminate that ground game from your next fight with anyone.

So hold on, you've seen the whole thing. Hunter Campbell suggested that he fights Nate Diaz in bare-knuckle.

Yeah, and he said that he's offered it to Nate, and Nate is not interested in doing bare-knuckle.

So basically, Hunter wasn't interested whatsoever. Hunter did have some follow-up questions.

He's like, What else does your deal have? And Perry said he can go do anything. Campbell did clarify. He's like, Anything else bare-knuckle related would have to be through them? And Perry was like, Yeah, I think that's the case. But he said, I'm leaving the door open.

Okay. Well, you never know. Mike Perry could make a return, and I, for one, would like to see it. Nate Dias, failing. Masvidal, failing. Mike Perry. Who else you think? It seems like he's itching big time to get back into UFC.

We were supposed to get that Nate versus Poirier fight at one point. That made a ton of sense to me, but he's now matched up against St. Denise. So it's like, really, the only guy is Justin Gechi, but you got the champ calling him out. So I think that takes precedence over a Nate Diaz call out any day of the week.

100 % with that question. So anyway, it's a lot of if, buts, maybe. It's just Mike Perry having a laugh, being silly, calling Hunter Campbell. I'm probably wasting the time of a very busy man. And he's probably committing a crime in the process.

You can't call someone and be like, Hey, just put an interview out with them and not tell them they're being recorded.

Yeah, well, I don't think Hunter is going to give a shit. So what definitely is happening, though, is that the UFC is finally back after what? A four-week hiatus. It feels good. I'll be leaving. I'll be packing shortly to go to the airport, flying into Vegas, commentate these fights. Main event, Johnny Walker, Magamed Ankaleiev. It seems we should have went through this on Monday with Anthony, because if anybody knows these two and who would have some insight, nobody knows better than Anthony Smith, of course. Felt short to both of them, but Anthony will be back, no doubt about that. But I spoke to both of these guys this week. If you recall, just a quick refresh, the fight ended very quickly. 3 minutes, 13 seconds. Illegal knee to a downed opponent, Magamed I met Ancalyev. Need him in the face. He said, Where are you? The doctor did. He said, I'm in the desert. They called the fight off. So obviously, we have fighter meetings, and I spoke to Johnny Walker about it. And he said on the night when he got need in the face, being a fighter, of course, he wanted to continue.

And he was actually initially annoyed with the doctor's decision. But then he went on to say that after the fight, his neck, his jaw, his collarbone, everything just like, clammed up, and he was in a lot of pain. So the best thing for him was that the fight didn't continue, even though at the time he did want to. In hindsight, he agrees with the doctor's decision. Now, when you look at that fight, one of the key takeaways for me is that Magama Nankalev did push him up against the fence, did initiate a takedown, did have Johnny Walker on one knee. Of course, that's when you need him in the face. But he couldn't complete that take down. Johnny Walker came to the UFC ridiculously explosive, unpredictable. You know what I mean? And that's why he was so successful. Even hurting himself in his post-fight celebrations, the man is a wild, wild, wild man, that's for sure. But he has been improving. He's been with John Cavanagh now over in Ireland for about four or five years. He's married, an Irish woman. His English is perfect. You can have a full-blown normal speed I had a conversation with Johnny Walker.

His English is absolutely bang on. And with Jon Cavenagh and the other coaches that he mentioned, they're forming the base of fundamentals, because I think in the past, he was doing it, of course, some training, but sheer athleticism. You know what I mean, to be honest. And now he's learning the fundamentals. Got to be careful that you don't take away the wildness that made it successful in the first place. But he was doing a good job of stopping that take-down. Magamed Ancalyev couldn't force him to his back. And I I think now coming into this one, that's going to allow Johnny Walker to be in a positive place. Because when you're fighting a Magamed Ancalyev or anyone from Daghistan, for that matter, you know you're fearing the wrestling, you're fearing the take-down. So therefore it causes you to clam up and not have the output that you typically would with your striking. Well, I think we might see Johnny Walker go out there and be a little more reckless, a little more free with the striking, with the kicks, with the output. We could see a very, very exciting fight.

Yeah, he's a very, very hard man to down, especially with that frame, right? He's just so lanky. It's hard to lock down those limbs. He's just so big for the division. So I do see it like that was my read going into the first fight was like, even if Ivankalev can get him down early on, I don't know that he can keep him there and work his game plan where he does like to smother guys. He likes to break their will, sap their energy. Johnny Walker does not seem like that guy. He is just going to keep getting up and coming at you, throwing absolute bombs until he cracks your chin. So I don't know. I do like his chances of going into this rematch.

Well, I think when you break it down, when you look at both guys, of course, the wrestling side of things and probably grappling in general, including jiu-jitsu, you got to go with Vankaleiv. I think on the feed, the more dangerous guy is Johnny Walker. Magamed probably has fundamentals, the basics, the cleanest striker locked in, but speed, power, and unpredictableness, if that's even a word. Yeah, I go with Johnny Walker for that one. So I can't predict this one because I'm calling the five, but I think both men have a path to success. How do you see this one?

Yeah, like I said, I was on Walker the first time out. I don't see any reason to change my prediction there. But that first fight, it was a little bit iffy. Uncle Ive was able to impose his will just a little bit, but I don't know. I want to see what Walker looks like towards the tail end of that third round because I think his gas tank issues that were a thing Early on in his career, I've been mitigated a bit, and he's still bringing heat on his punches in the third round. I've seen Uncle Ive will at the very tail end of third rounds as well.

You got to remember, Johnny Walker's got an 82-inch reach compared to Magamed's 75-inch. So that's a big advantage there. He's the taller guy at 6'5 versus 6'3. I went through some of the skills stuff a second ago. I think Ancalyev, if you can put him on his back foot, that'll be a key to success for Johnny Walker. Somebody like Ancalyev or any boxer, you've got to force them backwards. And I think if Johnny Walker is confident, like he said he is, he's very strong, he's very explosive, and he feels confident in stopping the takedowns, if he can walk him down, if he can put Magamed Anca live on the back foot, it becomes much, much harder to shoot a takedown to initiate a grappling sequence if you're getting beaten up, if you're getting forced backwards. So I think that's going to be the key. And probably for both men, who can force the other guy backwards? For Magamed, that obviously pushes Johnny up against the fence and initiate takedowns like that. And as I said, for Johnny Walker, if he puts him on the back foot, it makes him hard to even start grappling in the first place.

So what is your pick? Sounds like you're going Johnny Walker.

Yeah, I think I'm going to take Johnny Walker. I don't understand why the odds are as wide as they are. I've seen Johnny Walker take on wrest before, and he's had as much success as anybody else. So I'm going to go with the haymaker, just a big shot, Johnny Walker, to get this one done.

I would love to know Anthony's pick on this one. That would be very interesting. We should text him or something, but that would take too long on a live show. Just shoot me a text, Brian, if you can, while we're on it. I'll do it right now, having to while I feel. Yeah, good fight. A lot of people are picking Magamed and Kalaïev, and a lot of people have him as the champion. Both of these guys feel that a win here puts them either next in line or one fight away from a title fight with the light heavyweight division, Alex Pereira. He's probably going to fight Jamal Hill next, right? So I would assume the winner of this is in a very good position to challenge the winner. What do you think?

I mean, it depends because it's like the Jamal Hill thing is... As far as an Achilles goes, to me, that's a one-year injury, bare minimum. So that means he wouldn't be ready to come back until July of this year. That feels like a long time for Alex Pereira to be on the shelf, given how active he's been. So you could be looking at a number one contender fight in either this- Hold on, remember, when we did the podcast in November, Jamal Hill was training then.

And Jamal Jamal Hill had lost weight. So I don't know. Summer, May, something like that. There's nothing both paper view-wise as May. We know April's UFC 300 and maybe even Islam, according to what he says, but there's nothing lined up for May. That's another five months from now. You know what I'm saying? So I think Jamal would be ready for them if Pereira wants to wait. But outside of that, you got Magna Magna and Kalai. You got you, Paeska at one. Of course, Jiu is just lost. Jan Blahowicz, is he going to fight like Lined up?

Yeah, he is fighting. No, he was supposed to fight rackets, but then he got hurt. So no, he doesn't have a fight lined up. He's injured.

Yeah, well, they ain't going to do that. They ain't going to do that anytime soon. No offense, because the first one was a bit of a... It wasn't the best fight. Johnny Walker's there at seven. Nikita Krilow. Probably, yeah. The winner of Jamal Hill and Alex Pereira, or as you say, you never know, depending on Jamal's return, maybe the winner of this gets a title fight.

Right, especially because Yri versus Rakuj is the only other one, but that's all the way at UFC 300. So it's like this is the only fight between two top contenders in this window.

Yeah, interesting. So co-main event, Manel Karp taking on Mateus Nikolaus. That's a rematch. Manel Kopp lost the first one in a very, very close fight. Could have gone either way. Since then, though, Manel Kopp has looked fantastic. Last time out, took on a short notice. What was it? Felipe D'Arsantos. I'm just looking at Felipe D'Arsantos, David Dvorak, Jacques That's Juma Gullofe, Ode Osborne, two stoppages, two decisions. And then that's when he lost to Mateus Nikola and his UFC debut, Alejandro Pantosha. Now, Manel says that those two losses initially were because he was still transitioning from fighting in a wing out in Japan to fight it in a cage in the UFC. And there probably is some validity to that. It does change things up, certainly when it comes to wrestling and defending takedowns and getting back to your feet. However, I think it's probably more than likely you just fought Alejandro Pantosia, man. Pantosia is brilliant. Nikolaou is a very, very good fighter as well. Did you know, though? I didn't know this until I spoke to Manel yesterday. In that first fight, Manel caught, detached the retina of Mateus Nicolaou in the second round.

First round, A lot of people probably don't remember it. Obviously, I watched it again. Wasn't much output from Manel. Mateus Nicolaou won the first round. Second round, Manel went out there way busier, landing some big shots, hit him with a brutal uppercut. And then Nicolaus He said to me yesterday, he had a detached retina, had surgery to repair that. And in the third round, he was blind. So I said, Well, obviously, I know a thing or two about detached retinas. I said, Are you not nervous going into this fight with the guy that detached your retina last time? And his answer was, No, I'm not. If anything, that makes me more confident because I know in the third round, I was pretty much blind in that one eye, and I was still able to win the fight. I don't think when you detach your retina, the symptoms are immediate. Well, it might be sometimes, but with mine, it wasn't. For me, I didn't know for months later. So I'm not trying to take away from anything that Nicolaus says. I'm sure he knows what happened in the third round better than I do. But how did you see that one going, Harrington?

I did a little video on this yesterday. As you talked about earlier in the show, and I went back and watched the first fight, and on the night, I had it scored for cop. Watching it on the rewatch, I had it scored for Kopp. So to me, he's already gotten it done the first time out. He needs the judges to agree with He has so much power. And I did look at that, that idea of transitioning from the other organization. He was fighting at 135. So the Pantosia fight and the Nikolaus fight were his first two fights at 125 in quite some time. I think he's figured out a way for his power to translate now at this lower weight class, and that's going to be a real problem for Nikolaus because he saw it at the very beginning. Now he's going to see the finished product.

So I mentioned it earlier, you did an Instagram video where you turned How much was it? Into how much?

The goal is to turn $50 into $50,000.

By International Fight Week?

By UFC 300 is the idea.

All right, so by UFC 300, you turn $50 into $50,000.

Mm-hmm.

Real quick, condense it, make it fast. Explain to the believers how they could take $50 and turn it into $50,000 because we're talking about this. I'm sure they want to hear it.

I'll give you $100.

Yeah?

Yeah, just give me all Give me the majority of the profit.

Sure. Basically, all you have to do, Harrington, is get every single pick correct on every single fight card. How many fights per event?

The idea is you just need to get to plus 100, right? So you can take, generally speaking, the two or three biggest favorites on the card, put them together, and you're over plus. As long as you're above even money, you just double it every event for 10 events, $50 becomes over $50,000.

Okay, all So in this fight card here, you've got Johnny Walker, and you've got Manel Kopp.

I've got Jim Miller and Manel Kopp.

Jim Miller and Manel Kopp. Jim Miller coming back against Gabriele Benitez, not Brock Lesner. A lot of people- Even though that's a 50-50 fight. Did you see how- I don't know. Anthony is out of his mind for that one. I love Jim Miller. I don't think that's a 50-50 fight. Sorry, Brian.

We got so much coverage because Anthony said that. It's crazy. I just keep seeing clips of people being like, I don't know what he's talking about.

Did you see Jim Miller now address it at the... I know he spoke to you personally about it, but he addressed it at the press conference. He said, I could get a camora.

Yeah, no, he did. I don't know if he could. I mean, he could get in a position to get a camora. Brock Lesner would just pick up Jim Miller with one and smash him into the canvas like a Hulk smash. Hold on, here we go. Good job, Brian. I'm going to start a petition, and I don't know if he's going to do it.

Sorry, this is a different clip, I think.

It is. This is the Bruce Buffer. I want Bruce to introduce me as Jim Fogler Miller at UFC 300. Bruce Buffer will not do that. Bruce Buffer is too much of a gentleman, and he values his brand and reputation. I mean, Listen, the Bruce Buffer, of course, he swires here and there, but I don't think he'd do it. I don't think he'd do it. That would be awesome, though. Jim Miller.

I got to compromise, maybe like a freaking.

Jim Miller taking on Mario Batista and opening up the main card. Phil Hawes versus Bruno Ferrara. Also Ricky Simone... Sorry, Jim Miller fighting Gabriel Benitez, pardon me, and Ricky Simone and Mario Batista. That's a good one to watch as well. Mario Batista is on quite a role right now. He is very, very good to watch. What is it? Five wins in a row. Damon Blacksheet, Guido Canete, Benito Lopes, Brian Kelleher, and Jay Perrin. Five decent names. Three finishes out of that five, taking on, as I said, Ricky Simone, who dropped It's his first ever main event against SongiDong in his last fight, Phil Horses versus Bruno Farrera, that'll be a fun one as well. And of course, the pre-lip headliner, the man that's been going for a million years, Andre Orlowski going up against Waldor Cortés Acosta. Now, you won't know probably the name unless you're a hardcore, Waldor Cortés Acosta. If you watch the content of the series, you will do. If you really, really follow the sport, you'll know the guy. He comes from... Where is it? Where is it? Caribbean Island, Right up, Oh, no. He doesn't talk like this, though. He does not talk like this.

But he comes from a Caribbean Island. Anyway, he used to play baseball, and he has a very fast hand. Throws a fast ball about 100 miles an hour or something.

Is it the DR?

Dominican Republic.

There we go.

There you go. Thank you very much. He's got a red strap in one hand and a baseball in the other. And he was a very good baseball player. However, he was thrown off the team because guess what? What did he do? He got into fight. No shit, Sherlock. So now he's in the UFC doing pretty good. I forget his record off the top of my head, but so far, so good. He has some fast hands, obviously, with the baseball background. So that's what Arlowski is going to be careful of here. So Arlowski made his UFC debut in the year 2000. He's been around forever. We all know the story. 44 years old. I have so much respect for somebody He's really like Andre Arlowski, a man that's been around the sport for so long, the longevity of his career. I was just trying to look at his record there, but there's so much bump on his Wikipedia page. It's taking a million years to get there. Right, 34 wins, 23 losses, 17 knockouts, 3 submissions, has been knocked out 12 times. Last time against Dontel Mays, he got knocked out there, submitted by Marcos Rogerio De Lema.

Then he was on a 4-5 win streak. You go all the way back to the year 2000. The year 2000 is when he made his UFC debut. 23 years later, still going strong. Unbelievable. Second fight in the UFC for Rico Rodriguez. Then Pedro Hizard, Ian Freeman, Vladimir Matyashchenko, Tim Sylvia, Wesley Carrera, Justin Hyland, Paul Bontello. Remember that guy? Oh, yeah. Tim Sylvia, twice on the crop. I was there for one of them. Ufc 59, Anaheim, California, 2006. I'd just come off the ultimate fighter, and they flew the entire cast out to watch that fight. And do you know who I met? What's he called? Oh, man, I feel bad. He's the actor. He plays the big guy in Shorshank Redemption.

Oh, Michael Clark-Dunkin.

Michael Clark-Dunkin. There you go. Yeah, he came over and wanted to meet us all. Dana brought him over. I was like a little kid. I'm like, Oh, my God. I know you. I remember that event well.

But anyway- Is that when you fell in love with Anaheim? You were like, This is it. I got to live here.

That is not when I fell in love with Anaheim at all. And I live in Anaheim Hills. Oh, I'm sorry. We're very fancy. Fedo Emilienko, Roy Nelson, Bigfoot Silver. I mean, this guy's had a legendary career. But the question is, how long can he go on for? I'm wishing nothing but the best this weekend. And yeah, there's a little roundup. Some fun ones on the undercard as well for Reid Basherat, Taylor Lappilus, out of France, Matthew Semelsberger, Preston Parsons. And yeah, there we go. Today's episode is sponsored by 8 Sleep, the high tech solution to your age-old sleep in issues. 8 Sleep pod cover slips right over your mattress, bringing heating and cooling technology that keeps you comfortable and sleeping deeper for a better, more restful night. Listen, in our house, you always hear me going about how hot it is in here. Well, it's the same when I go to bed. The room is bloody boiling. If you're too hot at night, you won't sleep well. So 8 Sleep will take care of that. But your wife on the other side of the bed, she wants it warmer. Well, guess what? All you're going to do is put on the eight sleep mattress cover, and you can set either side of the mattress to be the exact temperature that you want.

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What was the one I was going to... I mean, look, I like that Arlovski is like, he's still very capable of turning back people. If you don't belong in the top 15, you're not beating Andre Arlovski. I don't care how old he is. So there is always a list for that, especially with somebody like Waldo Acosta-Cortez, who hits as hard as he does. I could see Andre Arlovski taking down another 50 grand, but I'm going to pick Farid Basherat. There's something about his fights. They're always entertaining. There's a ton of grappling in them. It's high-level, fast-paced. So yeah, that's my pick for fight of the night.

Yeah, the Basherat brothers. If you're not familiar, because they fly under the radar a little bit, Farid Basherat and Javed Basherat, two brothers fighting. I think they're Afghan, but they fight out of London. They currently live in Las Vegas. Extremely technical, great box, an incredible jiu-jitsu. Train with Jake Shields as well. That's a good fight, though. Taylor Lappalus was in the UFC, got caught for a bit, came back last year at UFC Paris, had a good performance there. My pick, fire the night and put you $1,000 on this, Mateus Nikola and Manel Kopp, The Flyways. They're going to bring it, and the main event will be sick as well. Before we get to questions, Harrington, is there any breaking news or any topics or a good non-MMA story that you feel is worthy of my discussion. I thought that to you as well, Brian. What's going on in Brian world? You know Brian's got a wild story.

Yeah, Brian, give me some.

Come on, Brian.

We could talk about how the thing in Miami could possibly be the government and Project Blue Beam.

I don't know what that is, and I don't think I want to get into it. But just real quick, what is Project Blue Beam?

It's the government's laser hologram program.

Oh, that's what they accused of happening in Hawaii, right?

No, that's space lasers from people who live under New York City. What I'm talking about is it's like realistic, projected holograms from space. It's a deep rabbit hole to dive down.

That's why I said, we're on quick. We're on quick, and we won't go there. I'll tell you what, speaking of New York City, though, Brian, I've seen a lot of unrest going on there. What's going on with all these tunnels that they found? Kids getting kicked out of school for the immigrants. There's a lot of wild stories going on right now.

The people in the synagogue were trying to cement up the tunnel that they had underneath their building there, and then they got caught because they were trying to fill it with cement.

Why did they have a tunnel dug in the first place? That's a good question.

That's a good question, Michael. That is a good question. And we are on way too public of a channel for me to start speculating. All right.

No, I'm serious. That was not a loaded question. I literally have no idea. You look at Twitter. You know the For You section on Twitter? Is wild. It's insane because I didn't realize. I was like, what are all these crazy accounts and all this mad shit on my timeline? And then I realized I'm on the For You not following. You go back to following now, though. It's so boring. You know what I mean? So we just a three-mile run. You know what I mean? Where you go to For You.

That's the algorithm.

Murders. Oh, my God. There's craziness. There's wild stuff going on. It's insane. I'm like, I've got to get off there. But sometimes if I'm bored and I want a little wild five minutes, have a look at that For You section on Twitter, and it will blow your mind.

I just get on to look at the news sometimes, and it's just like, oh, murders and horrific accidents and crashes. That's the majority of what my timeline is.

Yeah, we should play a game where we pull our phones out and just pull up our For You section. But we're not doing it because that is just an insight. That's danger. That is danger. It was, baby. All right, if you have a question, please send it into bympod@gmail. Com before you start, Harrington. Anthony Smith will be back on Monday. We're going to review Magamed Akalabha and Johnny Walker, too. Going to go through all the big news, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, send your questions in bympod@gmail.

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All right, so we got a question here from from Miluten. I think he's from Serbia.

Yes, my name is Miluten.

I'm from Serbia, and I have a question for you. Before that, I want to thank Anthony for being open with all of us, with expressing his feelings, thoughts on the BYM.

It's really an aspect of your show that we don't get only the fun part, but we also get the real life experiences and let's say, hardships. The question is, what do you think would change in fights?

If the fighters don't know who they're fighting, basically? Let's say you got information, Hey, you're fighting a boxer or you're fighting a kickboxer. You just know that your opponent will be a boxer, but you don't know his special techniques, his special combines, or whatever. Harrington, I want to say something in my language that means I love you.. Dude, there was this spit, Fk. There was this spit, yeah, it really sold me.

Millerton. I love you too, brother. What you don't love me? Jesus Christ. I'm very annoyed by this. Yeah, that was very open of Anthony. You know what I'm saying? I think that as a fighter, You've got to be open like that. You don't have to, but I think it does serve you well to just be honest. You know what I'm saying? Because what else can you do? You can't lie, you can't bullshit. You can't put out a tough guy persona and say, Look, listen, I was doing so great, or whatever it may be. It isn't going to change your thing. Everybody saw what happened. You just can't give up on yourself. And I thank Anthony for being so open, and I think a lot of people do as well, because I think it is good for other people that are going through tough times to see somebody like Anthony, alpha males, being vulnerable and showing that, Hey, listen, life sucks. Life gets you down. I was thinking about this the other day. Life is hard. Life is already hard, just to sustain yourself and live and have a roof over your head and pay the bills and deal with drama in your day to day life.

And then, I don't want to be cliched about this, but people looking to be offended. Life's already hard enough. Why How are you going to seek out extra shit to make your life hard? You know what I mean? So thank you, Millerton, Millertine, Millerton, whatever it was. I'll tell you what, I think he might be onto something here because how would it change fights if we didn't know the opponent? Well, you would have to prepare for every eventuality, which I guess in some ways would result in better fighters. So that's the short answer to that question. But what I like the sound of is, though, you pick 16 fighters Eight fighters. You have a tournament and you train, and only on the night, they do the first round and you don't know who it is. They pick the names out of a hat and you have no idea until you're about to make you walk or whatever, or on the night, they announced it. So you have the first round like that, and then you have the second round. And again, you don't know who you're fighting because whoever makes it to the next round, they pull those names out of a hat as well.

Probably a little bit silly and definitely a bit gimmicky, but it would be fun.

Dude, I wanted that so bad for the middleweight division when it was you and Weidman and Luke Rockhold and Robert Whitaker and a bunch of guys where it's like you could make any one of these fights mix and match in the top 10 at that point were incredible fights. It was set up for that. Lightweight actually might be where that's at right now. I wouldn't hate the idea of a tournament or a Grand Prix. But what jumped out to me with that question was guys not sitting on the sideline, right? You never know which opponent is going to for the title. You know what I mean? Under that system, you wouldn't know if you had a title shot or not. You would just need to keep grinding. Don't say no to fights because any one of these could have a belt attached to them.

Yeah, it would never happen in a big league promotion like the UFC. You know what I mean? Because it's too structured. There's structure and there's professionalism there and there's rankings there. But just for like- Also promotion. For a bit of fun. It'll be good for a bit of fun. I'm not saying the UFC do that at all, but just as a fan to sit there and see the The action's on the faces. You know what I mean? You're striking like, Shit, I'm going up against Magda Boudank alive in a minute. What was he going to say then? Oh, you mentioned Chris Weidman. Chris Weidman, I saw he's coming back. He's fighting Bruno Silva, and he said that This could be his last ever fight. This could be the last one. He said his body has been beating up so much over the past. God, not how many years it is. If he doesn't get the job done here, then this would be the last one. I think that was the quote. Was it anything I didn't to add? Because I see you looking it up.

No, I was just looking up Bruno Silva and what the date for the fight was. But I did see that pull quote earlier that he was going into it saying this very well could be his last fight.

And Bruno Silva is not an easy opponent. Bruno Silva, he doesn't have the recognition, if you will, or a high ranking. I don't even know if he's ranked, to be honest. But am I right in thinking that's Israel Adesanya or not Alex Pereira? Pereira. He gets Bruno Silva. They went to a decision. Bruno Joe Silver is a very powerful striker, very explosive as well. The path to victory for Chris Wyman will be to use the wrestling and take him down, but that's a hard path. When you're Chris's age, he's going to be, what, 40 by now? He's going to be almost 40. Must be. I'm 44, for crying out loud. You know what I mean? So he's got to be at least 40, something like that. What's it say?

39 turns 40 in June.

Yeah. So 39, 39. A lot of wear and tear, but I wish him all the best. What else have we got, All right.

So we got a question here from Joseph Bowen.

Hey, Michael and Anthony.

It's Joe from Maryland.

Quick question. Who do you think will break out 2024?

Title contender, superstar, win the Bell, whatever.

I got two names to watch out for. I'm going with Sean braided and Jalen Turner. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. What's his name from Maryland?

Joe, I believe.

Did I nail that, Brian? Nailed it.

Nice. Joe from Maryland. Well, Jalen Turner is already broken out, Joe, because he's top 10, right? He's been around the top 10 for a while. He fought on the paper view well over a year ago. He thought he had a close fight with Mataus Gamrath, right?

Yeah, but the other guy who- He's broken out of the shell. The other guy who he mentioned was Sean braided, who's in a similar position where, yes, they're ranked, they're doing well, but these are not guys who you consider directly in title contention. I think that was his question. Who makes the leap this year?

Yeah, well, I think-Oh, sorry. No, go on.

I was going to say, I think it's somebody that we were talking about on the Trivia Quiz is Diego Lopez. You bastard.

You took my thing. That's exactly what I was going to say, Diego Lopez. In fact, this weekend, we have another guy to keep an eye out on the prelimbs. He's had two wins in the UFC. Where is he? Marcus McGee. I think he might have got the best newcomer or something like that last year. He had two great wins. So keep an eye on that name, but Diego Lopes. Diego Lopes, there's a big breakthrough start. There's a guy, he's not in the rankings. He hasn't been itching and clawing and scratching his way to the top. Although, Sean braided... Who did Sean braided just beat? He just had a big Gastil. Gastil, yeah. Smoked him, right? Oh, yeah.

Pillar to post.

Yeah, he did. Yeah. A shame not for Gastil. But yeah, Sean Bradley. Yeah, no good one there. But yeah, I'm with Brian. Diego Lopez. This is going to be a big year.

I'm going to go lightweight class. Tatsuro Tiaro. Tairi? I'm not sure. He's a Japanese dude.

Tatsuro Tairi.

There you go. Okay. Thank you, Michael Bisping. He 15 and 0. Stunning knockout, his last time out. And he has the flash and the power that... The Manel Kopsal, what I was just talking about. I like him going forward.

Do you know what? Breakout, some guy that's... I'm going to say Israel Adesanya. Wow. This time next year. No, just engage it. Just engage it.

Do you think either of those guys have what it takes to be in the top 10, Mike?

Exactly. Do we have one more, Brian?

Sure. We got one here from Kevin Kevin from Texas. This is from during the break.

Good old Kev. What's up? Believe You Me crew. Kevin from Texas here. Huge fan.

Honestly, the month you all were gone, sucked. That first episode back, I was fired up, ready to go back to my normal routine on Tuesday and Thursday.

My question today, Sean O'Malley, Alia Teporia. They're going at it on LinkedIn, Twitter, X, whatever it is. My question, what are the chances we see that fight this year? Alia Teporia versus Sean O'Malley in 2024, out of 10.

I think probably like a six, but I really do hope it happens.

Peace. Well, thank you, Kevin. It's funny because them two have been chatting a little bit on social media. You actually put it in the notes. First of all, Volkanovski has got his hands full. Sorry, Tuporia has got his hands full with Volkanovski. And I think Volkanovski has his hands full with Teporeo Teporia. I think that's going to be a really, really good entertaining fight because Volkanovski, even though he did a pretty good job at negating the takedowns of Islam Makhachev, he's not really a wrestler per se. He's a striker first. Teporia is a striker first. He's undefeated. He can grapple. He can submit people like Bryce Mitchell. I think that's a really, really good fight. O'malley, he's also got his hands full with Chito Vera, but you never know. You never know.

What do you think? He gave it a 6 out of 10. I'm going to give it a 4 out of 10 based on this quote from O'Malley. If he goes out there and beats Volk and I go out there and beat Chito, that fight's happening next. That's just what's happening. There's a lot of ifs there. He has to go out there and beat Cheeto, which I don't see happening. And Teporia has to go out there and be Volkanovski in a fight that I'm picking Volkanovski in that fight. I'm going I would say less than a 50/50 chance, but I would put it as high as four because if those two things do happen, for O'Malley to say it like that, I wouldn't disagree with him, right?

O'malley is a big star. And whilst I probably favor Chito, and maybe I'm a little biased because of that, because of my association with him, every fight is different. I always say this, every fight is different. So just because Chito got it done the first time, that doesn't mean automatically that he gets it done a second time. I think it's a really good fight as well. But with O'Malley being a big star, if, and it's a big if, if he can retain the belt, if he can retain the belt, given the magnitude of his popularity, you never know. I think he would be a guy that could go up to 145, given the height of the guy, the length of the man, put on a little bit of muscle. But as you said, a lot of if, but, maybe. But I like it. I like to see these guys daring to be great. I like to see him calling out other champions, et cetera, et cetera. So there it is.

Also, it was two weeks, not a month. Come on.

Then we were gone. Then we got off.

Yeah. But I appreciate it regardless the fact that it felt like a month. I'll tell you what it feels like I'm in a sauna. I asked Rebecca to turn the heating off before I came in here. The heat is not off. It doesn't need to be on in the first place. This is the hottest room in the house. No, seriously, it gets so fucking hot in here. That's not why I'm wrapping up the show. We're going to be back on Monday. We're going to give a full review. We're going to have some guests, and I hope you guys have a great weekend. Good to have the UFC back. Nice job. Big thank you to Michael Ben and Page as well. Brian and Harrington, as always, much appreciated, and all you guys, if you haven't subscribed and rung the bell, do so right now. Enjoy your weekends, and see you Monday.