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All right, welcome to the believe you me podcast, everybody. As you know, Monday, Arman Sarkian left me hanging today. No Anthony Smith. No Harrington. No Brian. Just me and this guy. Let's go, Armand. Saul Ruchin.

Sorry for Monday, guys.

I cried myself. I cried every night, Armand.

Me, too. I said, like, Thursday, I can be late, and I gotta be ready for that interview because, yeah, one day I can do mistake, but second day, no way.

So, no, it's all good, brother. Only messing. Only messing. Thank you for your time. I know you've been busy. What have you been doing that. What have you been doing since UFC 300? Are you still in Los Angeles right now?

Yeah, I'm in Los Angeles. I'm living here. I'm living on Sunday, I'm going back to Miami. So I have. I got a wrestle a lot because I gotta compete in May 18 versus Vinoa San Denis. I'm gonna be grappling. Fight grappling. Yeah, I'm gonna grapple with him. Yeah, it's gonna be like five rounds. Like, every rounds, three minutes, something like that. So. And that's why. That's why I got a. I got a start train. I already trained by, like, nothing crazy, like, once a day, you know, just chill and train. You know.

I mean, I'm. No. I was gonna say I'm no expert. I think I am a little bit. But wrestling, you versus Benoit son, Denis, that kind of feels like. That's a hard one for Ben was underneath. That feels like a tough matchup for him.

Yeah, for me, too. Like, he knows. He knows grappling wrestling, but, like, for me, it's more advantageous, you know, like, because I grew up with wrestling.

Yeah, of course. Of course. Anyway, let's talk UFC 300, and we've got a lot of things we want to ask you about. You've been going back and forth with Michael Chandler with Islamic. But first of all, let's start with Charles Olivera, UFC 300. Tell me this. You go out there, biggest fight of your career, correct. Throw a cake, and you fall on the floor, and this guy grabs a hold of your neck. What is going through your mind?

I said, holy shit. So he, like. He's ready to fight me because he. Or he, like, count me, you know, he knew, like, I'm gonna kick with my left. With my left kick. You know, and I always kick people, and no one, like, do very well defend, but he was ready, and, like, he. He kicked me back, and, like, I dropped, and he got my. That guillotine. And, like, I said, no way. Like, I'm in. Like, I'm stocked or what, like, but hopefully I know how to get out from that position. And so I can. I can escape right away, but, like, I could escape right away, but, like, I thought, I don't want to give mount to him. You know, that's why I stuck. I tried to, like, clean my hair, you know, and. But clean my head, bike. I couldn't. And I said, okay, the last chance is give. Give go to mound and, like, give him mount and then escape from there. It's better than tap and, like, okay, I'm gonna lose position, but, like, I'm not gonna tap and I'm not gonna lose, so that's why.

Yeah, congratulations.

Yeah.

What about the up kick? How badly we hurt the up kick when I had on the ground, right? Did he kick you in the head?

Yeah, he kicked me, but, like, it was okay. I felt the kick, but, like, nothing happened. Like, I'm, like, was okay. So. But doctor. Doctor asked me something. I, like, I more feel. I more at that moment, I more feel like, that choke than the kick. You know, after that situation, I still. I still, like, was recovering after they choked, and then that kick, you know? No, wasn't. It wasn't too hard. So was. Was okay. And that's why I said, the ref, can you, like, give me the same position? And. Yeah, so. But I would like to finish him, you know, but I couldn't, so that's why in the third round, I was controlling the whole rounds. You know, I, like, I strike him, I wrestle him, I control him four and a half minutes, and, like, last 30 seconds, I guess I thought, okay, I'm gonna. I gotta finish him. Jump on his back and, like, try to finish, because, you know, when you finish, you know, like, how you see, like, gonna talk about you, you know, like. And, like. And my contract is, too. If you finish, you, you're gonna make more money.

And. And, like, my coaches was, like, yellow and don't, like, don't jump on his back and, like, don't try to choke him and, like, just control him and, like, beat him. I said, okay, and, like, jump on his back and, like, flip from there and, like, miss the position. And, yeah, he got the darts, but, like, it not nothing, you know, it wasn't there, and I didn't feel it was tight because I was just. I was flat, you know? And from that position, is so difficult to choke. If I. If I tried, like, get up, he can jump to the guillotine. It could be the same situation like it was in first round.

Yep. Yep. Well, congratulations on beating Charles Oliveira. Not an easy thing to do, and a great performance.

Thank you so much. Now, people say he is already old and, like. And Charles, he's not that good anymore.

Like, who says that?

I don't know. Like, a lot of, like, people, like, with Benilda also. So if you beat, like, old, like, veteran fighter, you know, why you, like, trying to fight with Islam? Or, like, someone from top five, top one, top two, you know, like, why you call out the gate?

Yeah, but don't listen to that. Don't listen to that bullshit.

Yeah, I don't listen. So I do my thing, you know, and I know I'm gonna be a champion, and I could be. I can beat everybody in this division. So believe myself, believe on my hard work, you know, and just, yeah, do what I do.

As you say. You want to be a champion? You beat. You're on a good win streak. You've been some big names. You destroyed Benille, Dara. She's just beat Charles Oliveira. You made your UFC debut on short notice against Islam. Came up short on the scorecards. I know from when we've spoke to you, when we do fighter meetings, you've been obsessed. That's been your main goal, to fight Islam. Again, from what I hear, you beat Charles, and then they offered you the fight. Correct?

Right away. Yeah, right away.

Right away.

Straight backstage, straight from the cage. I was living cage. And, like, the hunter came and said June 1, islam by catch. I said I was. Yeah, I was super excited and happy. And like, I said, okay, I gotta talk to my managers.

You're like, let me catch my breath.

Yeah. And. And it was. It was pretty easy. So we said, okay, we're not gonna do the same mistake like we did in the. In the first fight because I'm on the contender, number one. You know, I beat, like, I'm gonna be number one ranked. So it's no doubt they gonna give me the. I'm a next on the line, you know, after the poria. Like, islam gonna fight who is. Who is win that fight. I'm gonna fight for the title. It's like, hundred percent. Because who is gonna fight, you know, next? And, okay, we said, like, we got a train. Get ready. And, like, you. You can fight every. Every year for the belt. You know, it's it. Maybe it's like one, one, one or two times in your life you're gonna fight for the belt, and I don't wanna miss that opportunity. I mean, like, I want to be ready 100% at the end, after fight or like, before fight. Like, I can say, okay, armand, you did all things that you have, have to do, and, like, you're ready for, for everything. So, you know, it's like, so difficult to fight for six weeks.

And Charles Olivera is he, it was, he's a tough opponent. You know, fight was not easy. Also cut weight trainings. Yeah, it's my dream fight with Islam, but, like, yeah, but we didn't go, so, but I know, like, we're gonna fight, it's probably gonna be Islam. We're gonna fight in November, October, and I'm gonna be ready. So I rest now a little bit and then start, start to train, go to the mountains, you know, like, work a lot of work on my freestyle wrestling, defensive wrestling. Like, I'm still young, you know, 27 years old. I gotta, I gotta learn a lot of different text techniques, and I feel like I'm not, I'm not in the best shape right now. And I know my prime is gonna be like, at the end of this year, like, maybe in a couple years, I'm gonna, like, still getting better, you know?

Yeah, yeah. Listen, anyone that's had anything negative to say, just ignore that, because you have earned the right to fight for the belt. It's not like an opportunity was given to you and you're like, oh, I've got to take it. You've earned that. You are the next guy. You beat Charles Oliver, you beat bil Nael Darius. You gave Islam a good fight. You've got an incredible skill set, and I completely agree. This is a big opportunity. So you want to take it with a full camp, take it when your body's rested, when there's no injuries whatsoever. One person that didn't agree with you, though, was Michael Chandler. For the people listening to this that might not have seen this, this is what Michael Chandler had to say. He said, armand just went out there and beat Olivera. Sounds like he's going to be number one contender next. I also don't understand why he didn't take that fight. I would have taken it, man. This sport moves fast. This sport moves very fast. June 1, you're going to see the lightweight title happen. Then a couple of weeks later, you're going to see Chandler versus McGregor.

A fight that's way bigger than that is going to happen. And both guys can make what? Make? Lightweight. Why didn't you take that opportunity, Armin? That's. That's Michael Chandler. That's Michael Chandler. What's your response to that?

You know, I already respond that. Like I already said, but, like, I want to say one more.

I've got it here. I don't expect you to understand, Michael Chandler. We are not on same level. I am here to be the champ. You are just waiting for a paycheck. Yeah.

So, yeah, I like Michael Chandler, to be honest. So he's a cool guy, but he's a 60, 36 years old, you know, like, he's older than me. Like, for, like, he's older than me, like, ten years. You know, that's why he's thinking like that. But, like, I'm young. I know I'm, like, gonna have a lot of opportunities to fight for the title, and I take my time, so. But he's. He's gonna fight, like, one year marks him two years. That's why he thinks like that. Leaf, like, I have a chance. You gotta fight. But, like, I'm different. That's why, like I said, we are on different level. He's fighting for the money, waiting for the corner McGregor fight, and, like, yeah, but, like, if he fought, like, like I said, so, I mean, you said.

Like, four times in the.

Yeah, he could fire, he could. He could. Look, he could fight four times in, know, he could lose. He could lose, like, four exciting fights. It's good to watch his fights, but he always lose. You know? It's good to watch, but he always lose. Yeah, it's a. I mean, he's a fighter. He's a one round fighter. You know, if you're, like, can. Like, if you can, like, go with him in the second round, you're gonna win for sure, because in the second round, he's already dead, so just you. You gotta run, like, one round, and the second round goes, like, to fight real.

I like Michael Chandler. He's a great guy.

Yeah.

Very excited.

Yeah, yeah, he's a fighter. Yeah, he's excited to watch, you know? But he's not the smart fighter. I don't know, like, yeah, he does, like, crazy things. Like, well, Olivera was on his back, you remember? Like, he jumped, like, I don't know why. I've never seen, like, this escape. Like, he just jumped and, like. And, like, I don't know for what, like. Or, like, with a gay gage. He wanted, like, he thought he's in the freestyle wrestling, and, like, he wanted to get more points because you, like, lift him and, like, throw, like, you know, like, when you throw like this, you get, you got, you get, like five points or four points, you know, like, when, like, simple takedowns is two, four, two point, and maybe he thought he's in freestyle wrestling. You remember that? Like, when he, like, like, slammed him, you know?

I do, I do. I'm an against.

Yeah, but he lost position, you know, it, it don't make sense that it's good. It's beautiful. But, like, for the, for us, like, a fighters, you spend so much energy and then you, like, just throw him and that's it, you know, and, like, lose position. So it's good for fan, but it's not good for, like, fighter, you know?

Yeah. Like, against Dustin Poirier. And by the way, I love it as a fan. He just ran at Poya's, just swinging, swinging, swinging. Do you think against Conor McGregor he will try and wrestle, or do you think he'll get sucked in to all the energy and the hype and just try and put a war on? Or do you think he'll use his brain?

I mean, like, he never used his brain. He's all, he always fight for the fan, you know, that's why he's gonna, like, try to knock him out and, like, uh. Yeah, he's gonna try to knock him out because he's so dangerous in the first round. I feel like if he, uh, he can finish corner in the first round, but, like, if fights gonna be like, it's gonna be five rounds fight, right?

Yes.

Yeah, yeah. So if fight is gonna be like, like, it's gonna be second round, third round, he's gonna lose the fight because he gotta knock him out in the first round and, or, like, he's gonna, he's gonna lose the fight because Connor, I feel like he's better. His conditional is better, and, like, he's more smarter than Chandler.

Connor's a guy that gets tired as well. Anyway, we're not here to talk about Conor McGregor and Michael Chandler. We're here to talk about you, brother. All right. This episode is sponsored by Shopify. That is kind of changing the game when it comes to taking your business online. If you have a business, if you're thinking of starting a business, if you have an idea, putting it into actual effect, you know, can be very complicated, time consuming, getting online and allowing the worldwide audience to also be available to you. For everyone on the planet to potentially be a customer, you need a website, you need an e commerce platform, you've got to be able to take major payment methods, credit cards, etc. And all the rest of it. And that can be very time consuming and expensive. Well, Shopify makes that incredibly easy. They take out all the hassle and before you know it, you're going to be up and running. Okay? Shopify is the commerce platform. As I said, it is revolutionizing millions of businesses online. So whatever you're selling, Shopify, simplify selling online and in person so you can focus on successfully growing the actual business.

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Last time I spoke, let's talk about real fighters, brother.

Let's go. Let's do it right now. I want to hear about you. Last time I spoke to you, you were kind of quiet, you know, maybe it's because your English has got better. I'm not sure. But now you're trash talking. You're talking a little bit of shit. I like it. We get to see the personality and we get to see a little bit more of who Armand Saroukian is. Is this been a conscious thing or is it just the English getting better?

No, I mean, when you fight with on ranking guy, if you're nobody, like how you can like, talk shit about, like, Michael Chandler, you know, like you're, if you're, like, fighting with the, I don't know, like with guys who is unranking or like just in top 15, you know? But like I said, okay, when I get in top five or when I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna talk about everybody. And like, and like, when you talk, people like, say, oh, this guy is real deal. He's not just a damn hooker. And, like, losing everybody and, like, talk shit, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I understand. Yeah. And I agree with you.

That's why, like, I'm, like, trying to show, like, who I am, you know, like real Armand, so we can.

Well, we like it. We like it. What is the sweater you're wearing there? Because last time I saw you, you were dripped head to toe in some very nice designer gear, my friend. It looked like you were wearing the budget of a small country. What.

What are we, Armenian? It's lA. La. It is. It's la Kings. The Armenian, like a thing. I don't know what this, like, this is the eagle and this is lion.

Nice. Nice. Are you a hockey fan?

Yeah, I used to play hockey in like, twelve years.

Oh, really? Oh, really? Is hockey big in Armenia?

No, it's not big. I raced in Russia, so I'm armenian, but, like, I live in Russia. That's why I lived in very cold place. And that's why when I was young, I grew up with hockey, you know? And, like, I used to play hockey, like, and then. But I couldn't be a good hockey player. That's, uh.

Why.

Because I like fighting when I was. When I was young.

Even always getting into fights.

Yeah, I can talk. I just like to fight, you know?

But you do it pretty good. And now the talking is catching up. You're doing well.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Talk to me about Islam. When you do fight Islam, why is it going to be different now?

I do fight with Islam in Abu Dhabi or in medicine Square garden. Yeah. If he beats Poria, you know, fight this fight, never know, like, Poria can knock him out. But, like, yeah, I feel like everybody underestimated the Porian, like, thinking, like, 100% Islam gonna win. But, like, it's a fight, you know, you never know. Every punch can land very well. And, like, everybody, like, can go to sleep, you know? So that's why. Yeah, I'm gonna fight with a winner in October or November, but doesn't matter. I'm gonna be in September. I'm gonna be ready in August, July, and then the June, you know, but not June 1. You know, it's so, like, short. It's so fast for me. Like, it's like a six. Six weeks. Five. Six. Six weeks. You know, I need the time for rest. Enjoy. And, like. Yeah, no, of course I want to fight with Islam. Definitely. So I wanna. I wanna knock him out and like, to show everybody, like, who is the new arm, the new daddy.

The new daddy is Arman Saul Rukhin. Did you see that? He said outside of Dustin Poirier and maybe yourself. He has no more work to do at lightweight. What do you think about that?

Yeah, like, I mean, he just got a fight with me, you know, because I'm the contender number one. I don't know why he. They want him to fight in June 1. They can make the fighting in the end of June and wait for me. You know, it no make sense. Like, why? Just he has to fight in June 1 because. Because of what? So they could make the June. I don't know, like, any days, but not June 1, like June or July. I don't know, like one month, and. But it's okay. So when he's gonna be ready after the fight? Who is gonna win, and when they gonna be ready? So I'm, like, ready for any days, but I want to fight this year, definitely. I don't want to wait too much. So hopefully it's gonna be in October or November.

Talk to me about, obviously, you were on UFC 300. Justin Gagey was on there as well. Justin Gagey took on Max Holloway, as we know, and he lost. So now he's not in the title picture at all. Do you think that was a big mistake, taking that fight?

No, it wasn't. Big mistake, because he has a belt, so he had a BMF belt, you know, and, like. And Islam couldn't fight that time, so that's why he has to fight. And. And I. And he has to fight. He has to make money, and he's not that young, so he. So. And in UFC 300 is so excited fight. It was so excited fight. And Max Holloway has a big name also. Yeah. If I was him, I would. I would fight. Same. Like. Like he did. It was a mistake. And I thought, he's gonna win, but, like, never know, you know? You see, like, he lost, and now he gotta win one more fight, and he can jump on the.

Yeah, I agree. I think one more win, and then he's right back in the conversation again. All right, Armand, I'm gonna ask you a few things. Few little things. So you grew up in Russia. What is your favorite thing to eat in Russia? I've never been to Russia. What do people eat there?

People borscht. They eat borscht. Bosch, what is a soap? It's a soup. Yeah.

I thought you said it's a soap. They fucking eat soap in Russia.

It's a soap. Yeah. Soup is a veggie meat, and. Yeah, it's so good in Russia. So popular, and it's a. It's a cold there. That's why we eat a lot of soup. So we like. And, like, we drink a lot of tea.

Vodka.

A lot of vodka. Yeah. Armenian and Russian. Drink a lot of vodka.

Do you like vodka? I. That is my drink. If I try not to drink a lot these days. But I'm a vodka guy.

Yeah, I just. I just had one. One time in my life. Vodka. Not vodka, chacha. It's, like, kind of vodka, but, like, more, more stronger. I'm. I don't drink. I don't drink. I don't smoke. So I just like to eat, enjoy the nature, go to. To the mountain, you know, go to the beach, so enjoy the vacation. But I had a drink one time, and it was in the mountain. I was super, super cold. I thought, I'm gonna die. And, like, one old guy said, you had. You have to. You have to get some. Some shots, you know, from some shots. It's, like, kind of vodka, but it's, like, homemade vodka. It's, like, 70 degrees. The 70% of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I said, okay, I don't have a choice, so I have to. I took one. I didn't feel anything. 34567. When it was seven, you know, like, I started to feel, like, crazy, like someone. I was, like, heating up, like, I, like, in, like, 15 minutes, I, like, take off my, like, jacket, you know, and, like, lay down like this.

And what temperature was it where you were, how cold it was?

No, I mean, like, we were driving the. We will ride the atv's, you know, in the. In the mountains. So in the. So in the. We went to the mountain. It was snow over there, but in the. Down in the. In the. In the city, it wasn't snow. So when we went there, it was so cold, but, like, so cold, and we have to. We have to drive back, like, four more hours. I said, if I'm. If I'm gonna drive, I'm gonna die. So I don't feel my legs, hands. Like, I was, like, so freezing. So I was. I was thinking, like, real, I'm gonna die. I can go back. So that's why that. That drink, like, helped me. And, like, when I was riding back, I I'm like, I just thought. I just. I just take my t. I just took. Took off that. My jacket, and, like, feel, like, so good, you know? And, like, when I came there, I said, okay, tomorrow morning, I'm gonna get sick. So. So. But when I wake up, I felt so good, like, nothing happened. And, like, it was the first and hopefully the last time when I had that vodka.

How old were you then?

No, it was like two years ago.

Yeah. So you were 24? I mean, when you're 24, you can do that. When I was a kid, I could go out, I could get shit faced and still feel good in the morning. These days I have two, three drinks, and the next day I've got a headache and shit. You know what I mean? There's no podcast gets recorded. I pretend to be sick. So you were one and done. Well done. Good for you. Because people shouldn't drink. Nothing good comes of it.

Yeah.

So when you drink. So when you're not training, you like to spend time in nature, in the mountains?

Yeah, I don't drink because, like, I don't need it. I'm like, confident guy. If I want to do something, I'm gonna do that, you know? Like, I don't. I don't know. I just can't enjoy my life without drinks and, like, I just like to spend time with my family, friends, and, like, just eat good food, you know? This is the best. When it cut weight, I, like always thinking what I'm gonna eat after when I win, fight and, like, sushi. Some steaks, you know?

Yeah, steaks. That's the one. So where do you live now? You still live in Russia?

Yeah, I live Russia. I live Russia. I come here, train, rest, and then go to Russia's. Yeah.

What's the name of the town? The city?

It's a crescentar Kressner. But when I'm gonna be champion of. And I'm gonna be. When I'm gonna make a lot of money. Yeah. Of course. I can buy a house in Los Angeles, in Beverly Hills, maybe.

You gotta give me a call for.

10 million on the mountain. Have a view on the. Like, I can see the ocean. View is ocean, you know?

Yeah.

And call you.

Nice. We'll get some vodka. We'll get some steaks going. Maybe a little sushi, you know?

Yeah.

Are you, uh. Are you a young single man, Armin? Or do you have a lady?

No, I have. I have two kids.

Oh, you do? Oh, sorry. Pardon me. I did. I didn't know that. How old are the children?

Four and two.

Oh, wow. Congratulations. Did you get a phone call? Wi fi connections?

No, no phone call. Sorry. Sorry.

I expect you to let everybody in your life know, Armand, that you're speaking to the legend. Don't call me. Don't call me when I'm speaking to Bisbee.

Of course. UC champion. Former UC champion.

When you were a kid growing up, who was your favorite fighter? Fedor?

No, Habib the father. It was the prime of Habib, you know, when I was grew up.

So do you have a relationship? Do you know Khabib?

No, we know I know him, but, like not very well. So we don't have. I'm not calling. I don't call him and like us something and like, we are not friends, but like, I really like how he behaves and like his lifestyle, like, yeah.

So, yeah, no, he's a very respectable guy and obviously a legend. Do you see this fight with Islam as maybe, you know, because Habib is known as the goat or one of the goats. Do you agree with that? By the way, who would you say is the greatest of all time?

Jon Jones, number one.

Okay.

It's like, no doubt, like hundred percent John Jones. And then like, habibi, he's number five, probably number six. He's in top ten. But like, he's not on my list. Like, you know, like Jones Gsping.

I'm joking.

No, like who, who defend, like, most, most time, like belt, you know, like, I've said that.

I've said, listen, I have so much respect for Habib. He's undefeated. He was so dominant. But I've said he never defended that many times.

Yeah, like three times.

I got used, bro. Your people, you came for me.

Yeah, it's three times. It's nothing. Jones, like defended like 15 times or like twelve times and some Pierre, same Anderson Silver, like, Habib has twelve fights or 13 fights in UC and Jon Jones, like defended 13 times title. What are you, like, why you compare them? It's like, yeah, and like, if you see the skills, like, it's completely different level skills. Habib can strike like Jones. Yeah, Habib is good on the ground and pound, you know, on the control, on the wrestling. But like, if we're gonna see like completely MMA fighter, it's a John Jones in Dimitris Johnson and GSP, like completely MMA fighter. And then it's coming. The Anderson silver because of his striking, you know, his striking is incredible. And like, yeah, yeah, that, those four, it's, it's like gold. Gold for me. Gold.

Yeah, and I agree. And I think everybody.

And number five, number five, definitely, it's a habib because of. He's undefeated. He defend like three times and like, he was, he had just a couple, like hard fights, you know, with the brazilian guy from my teammates, Gleason Tbao, he never took him down. And like, yeah, it was pretty close fight, but like another one, he won everybody, so. And he was, he was dominate. He was dominating for. On everybody.

Last question, because I've taken up a lot of your time, and thank you again, Armin. I appreciate it.

No problem.

Islam has been in the UFC for quite a while now. Of course, he had that one knockout where he lost to Adriano Martins. But he's doing incredible things. Do you think the legacy of Islam could or is greater than Habib's? Not the legacy, the achievements, because I think for legacy, Habib will. He was the first. He will always be. Have a greater legacy and more of a. An impact. But do you think right now Islam is challenging him for that status?

Not yet. Because Islam never defended his title with Falun 55 ers. Yeah, the walk is good, but he's too short, small. You know, he's from different divisions. Like, completely different things. You know, like, 155 ers is a different fighters. Okay. We're gonna see. It's gonna be his. We could say, like, first defend with a real 155 Poria. You know, so. And like, if you're gonna compare right now, like, khabib and Islam, of course, like, habib is here. Islam is here. And, like. But, like, we never know. You know, Islam, he's still fight. He still fights. And, like, he could beat all records, but, like, I don't let him do that. So I'm here. That's why.

Exactly. Exactly. Well, Armand, again, thank you for your time. All the best. With everything. You buy the house, when you've got the view of the oceans, when you've got the swimming pool, the infinity pool.

One more thing. You gotta call you know who who to Dana white and say, when I'm gonna become champion, you gotta say, change contract for Armas Rukia. Because we got to hang out on his Beverly. Beverly Hills house. He wants to buy a house for 10,000? For $10 million.

Really? I'll call him right now. So you got to change Armand's contract.

No, no. When I get the title, I'm doing it.

I'm in charge. Dana will say, bisping, go f yourself.

Arm another man.

Congratulations. He probably will. Congrats again on the victory over Oliveira. And I look forward to all your future fights. You're a good man. Thank you for your time.

Thank you so much. Thank you for your time. Good luck, brother.

All the best, my man.

Bye bye.

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Well, it's a pleasure to be here, Mike, coming from a brand new laptop. So hopefully, hopefully no more of this muting mid sentence. You know, people are going to be. Be cut out during my thoughts. That that won't. Okay, all right.

That was me. I muted him.

Oh, you muted him? Oh, that was hilarious. I was going to say you. Harrington's been splashing out. Look at this guy. He's absolutely loaded. Thank you all for being here. And thank you to Armin Saruki. Armin. Talking a little bit of shit there. I like it. I like it. That's what you got to do. And you know what? I really agreed with his point, saying, listen, when he was fighting up and coming, guys, he's like, I can't talk shit. I can't talk shit. But now he's in the thick of it. Now he's in the deep end. It makes all the sense in the world. So fair play. That's what you got to do in this modern day and age. Speaking of modern days and modern ages, that's not really a good segue. UFC Manchester has just been announced, and people are very excited. Some people are also very frustrated. I woke up this morning, saw it plastered all over social media. I've known about this for some time, but, you know, because my flights have been booked for a while, you know, commentator. I can't talk about those things, but I got a lot of DM's people giving me shit.

Giving your sellout. If you agree that we're not getting f'ed over in Manchester, this is bullshit. The time zone and all the rest of it, and the fighters and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there's a fair bit of that online as well. It's like, guys, look, listen, number one, I'm going to be very grateful that we're bringing a pay per view to Manchester, right? It's incredibly exciting as british MMA fans, for the fighters. Yeah, look, listen, in a perfect world, you fired at regular time. But I did it when I defended my title there, and I was very, very proud to do that. The reality is it's, it's an american company, you know, and the time zone is dominated by the California audience on the west coast. So they cater it to that. And I saw a lot of people saying, yeah, the british fans deserve more. And listen, I totally get that. Totally resonate with it. But there's, there's a lot more to it, you know, I mean, obviously they did the Leon versus Komaru, I think, at regular times. I don't know how that performed. Maybe it performed great, maybe performed terrible, I don't know.

But I think also, I think a lot of people just expect Saturday nights for the pay per view, so maybe some of the audience just weren't aware. There's probably also. I don't know this, but there's probably tv contracts. Well, there will be contracts in place, you know what I'm saying? And ESPN are a big, big player in all of that stuff, so I don't think it's a case of them just going out. Bollocks. Screw the UK fans. They don't deserve. They're like, no, we want to put a show on in Manchester. We want to bring a pay per view. We want to bring the big stars there. And certainly now with two champions, it makes all the sense, but there's also certain limitations. So I feel you're paying to a certain degree. But, guys, you know, I said to Callum, it's his birthday today. I said, because he's doing this new job and he's a little bored and this and that. I'm like, dude, be grateful for the position that you're in in life. You work for a Fortune 500 company. You're 23 years old today, right? You've got a great life, you've got your health.

Everything's fantastic. Be grateful. So any of you pricks that DM'd me abuse, just be grateful, okay? Just like I'm grateful to speak to the great Mike Harrington.

I got a. I got a fair bit of that, too. I'm actually in a. I've been inducted into a group of MMA hooligans from that side of the pond. And they are. They were going off about this nonstop, right? It was just walls and walls of text about how unfair this is. And I had to point out to these guys, like, you know, there are dudes in Australia who woke up at seven in the morning to go to a pay per view. You know what I mean? Like, at least you get to get your drink on from the night before. You don't have to wake up at daybreak and do eggs and UFC, you know, like, time constraints are what they are. Wherever in the world.

Couple of toots will do you, right?

Yeah. There you go. Main event, coal. Main event. Leon. Tom, not sure which way round that's going to be. I would assume, because Leon is the undisputed, that he would probably top the bill, but who knows? Leon versus Bilal. It's got to be, right? Bilal. I mean, he has more than stated his case, okay? And he's more than earned it. To be fair. I forget the win street that he's on, but it's a lot. So fair play to him. It'll probably be Bilal. Leon, Tom Aspinall. If I had to make a guess, there's two front runners. Cyril Garn, Curtis Blades. Curtis Blades. Obviously, Tom wants that one back. Cyril Garn has been calling for that fight for a while as well. So the boat. Intriguing matchups go on.

So, I don't know if you heard this and it is just rumors like what's floating around on Twitter, but I did see in a couple of different places that Sir Logan was offered the fight in Manchester and turned it down.

Right. Well, I might be hearing different things, but I'm not hearing that. I'm not hearing that it is Cyril gone. I'm. I'm just here. What's that, Brian?

I heard he wants to go. He's gonna go do a movie and that's why he.

Oh, really?

Down.

Yeah, yeah, that.

That was the rumor that I heard exactly.

Oh, I never saw that. I never saw it. See, I don't spend my entire life on the Internet like some people.

I think. Yes, dude. Yeah, dude, we're the losers who have that data for you. I think, actually, Tom, quote, tweeted that and was like, bro, what movie is he on? I want to know about this movie. Please let me know. What movie is more important than a fight for the title in Manchester?

Yeah, yeah, no, and he does bring up a fair point, you know, but Cyril Garne could also say this is a big opportunity to be in a movie that might pay well. It might be a big role, and a fight will still be there down the line, you know?

Yeah, he's already had title charts.

Well, he's still a relatively young man as well. That was the point I'm making anyway, so, regardless. Well, maybe in that case it'll be Curtis Blades. Who knows? Leon versus Bilal. Well, what I'm trying to get to before you keep interrupting every 2 seconds is other fights on the card. It's got to be paddy Pimbler versus a ranked opponent. My choice would be Renato Moycano.

I think mine would be Bobby Green.

Okay, either would work. Either would work for sure. Who else is going to be on there?

You got to figure Makai is going to get a fight now.

Mohammed McIve, I guess somebody highly ranked in maybe a number one contender matchup. I would like to see, obviously, we got like people like Arnold Allen, Laron Murphy. He's got his first main event in May, so he's not going to be on there. But, you know, I'd like to see, and I think we may see this as well because it is a pay per view. I would like it for the UK fans because obviously when this, whenever it's a local show, they stack that card with local fighters. You know, if it's in bloody wherever we were just in, I don't know if it's in Austin, Texas or whatever, there's a few local people and all the rest of it. So anytime they come to the UK, there's a lot of people from the UK and there's a lot of Europeans on, which is fantastic because it gives them an awesome platform and people get to cheer for their own. I would also like to see, though, for that the fans get to see some like international flavor and some like the stars that they see when they tune in, you know, because being a british UFC fan, you know, watching those fights either on delay on a Sunday or staying up to the brutal midnight hours to five in the morning, I did it when Leon fought Colby Covington.

I done tales from the Octagon two. I came back, I stayed in my hotel. I stayed up all night absolutely destroyed and exhausted on a Sunday. So I get it. I get it for all the fans that are going in person, but I would love to see some, some real big star names, international star power on there as well. But make an ad out of it. Go out there on the town, have a nice dinner, have a few drinks, go get your dancing shoes on, then pop into the brand new new arena. Have a good one. I mean, I'm disappointed as well. I was looking forward to a good night out afterwards. Now I'm going to be going straight to the airport. See, we've all got to make sacrifices, people.

That is nuts. You be, you would be wrapping up your press obligations probably at around seven, eight in the morning, and there's no way you got a flight later than eleven, so you're screwed, dude.

And for the, for the, for the fighters as well. Do you know what I mean? It is, you know, it's, it's, it's an adjustment for me. I was coming from California, so I just stayed on the same time zone when I landed there. I stayed up all night, which gets hard because, you know, there's not much to do on a Tuesday night in the middle of winter in Manchester. You know, it's not like a 24/7 city. Yeah, it's a decent city. And at the weekends there's a lots of activity and stuff like that. But number one, you're not looking for clubs and pubs and bars and stuff like that, so you're just watching bad tv, watching crappy movies, guys sitting around, me in particular, not eating because you're cutting away whilst everyone's stuffing themselves with pizza, farting their heads off, stinking out the room, talking nonsense. Old story. So it's just, it was, it was actually quite nice looking back, you know, a nice bonding session, if you will. But that's essentially what the fires are going to do, you know, so best of luck to all of them.

So how hard is that? Because, like, I keep, you know, I always hear like, you want to peak, you want to, like, in training, start to work to peak towards the. The time you're going to fight. So are you, like, for that fight specifically? Were you doing training sessions at like five in the morning to get prepared for the fact that you were going to have to fight the main event at five in the morning?

Well, that was the plan. And obviously I trained in California. You go out there as late as possible. Being the main event, being a championship fight, there's a lot of media obligations. And when we get there, I'm like, okay, so we'll train. We'll train in the middle of the night, you know, but then you get there and you're like, yeah, I think I did one at midnight and I was like, I can't be bothered. I do a bit of training in the day, I go for a run, I'm like, it's three in the morning. I'm not doing it. I can't be bothered. I'm tired. Your brain's all over the place. It's dark outside. You lot are eating pizza.

It.

It'll be fine. It's Dan Henderson, he's 75 years old. Who cares? Fuck it, I'm going to bed. Hold on, you can't go to bed. You got to stay up. It's like, oh, for fuck's sake. But it doesn't matter because when it's all said and done and the fighters won't be tired on the night either. They won't. Once that adrenaline kicks in, once you hear that british crowd, right? And they are going to make some noise for Tom Aspinall and for Leon Edwards. It's going to be insane. Like when I had Tom on tales from the octagon in Manchester. The chance the singing Tommy has been all Tommy Aspen. No, it was. It was loud. I was very jealous. I'm like, oh, it's my show, you dickheads. What's going on? Anyway, Armistar Rukin gave us lots to talk about before, but however, what is going on? What's the big news out of these notes? Harrington, what do you think?

Well, I mean, I did have. I thought this was kind of interesting. There was. There's already talk going on between. Between the Leon Edwards and Bilal Mohammed camp ahead of this fight. You know, Dave Leon's coach came out and said that he thinks the eye poke was Leon looking for a way out of the first fight. He says that, you know, from what he saw over those first five minutes, he was absolutely going to dominate Palau. So he was looking for the way out. Bilal quoted it and just said, hey, I'm going to remember this when you are giving your boy a pep talk on the stool after I've been kicking his ass for 20 minutes.

Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to not be mean. You know, that's the biggest news story in MMA, that two fighters that are gonna fire, that don't like each other, that have been talking shit back and forth for months, that the coach says he probably, you know, was looking for a way out of the fight. The reality is that first fight, Leon was smashing him. Liam was looking very, very good. But I think it was round two when the I poke happened. So it was still early in the fight. It was a legitimate eye poke. It was a nasty one. Leon didn't do it on purpose. We see it all the time, but it's just. It's just an unfortunate part of the business. It shouldn't be. I'm sure we can figure out a way to fix it, but it was a bad eye poke. I don't think Bilal, because I remember. I think I was calling that fight. I remember the sound of Belal when the eye poke happened, him screaming, you know, and that isn't like a delayed thing that he was like. And he just, like, fell on the ground, like, violently turned away.

Do you know what I'm saying? So it was a bad one. It was a nasty one. But he was getting pieced up. He was getting pieced up. But I don't know. You know, five rounds in every fight. Five rounds in every single fight, right? I'm looking at these non MMA stories, Harrington. Okay. I don't recognize any of the ones that I sent to you.

Okay?

Give me number one. Give me number one. Because of what I text you earlier.

Yes, sir. So a flight from Britain to Turkey, it doesn't say exactly where in Turkey they were going, but it does seem like it was a golf vacation. This flight full of british lads happened to manage to drink the plane dry of all wine and beer 25 minutes into the flight.

God bless. God bless. See, that's what I'm talking about. Flying the flag literally 50,000ft or 40,000. God bless him. Uh, where was the flight going to? Do you know what airline it was? Because I tell you what. Go on.

It was like one of those, uh.

Uh.

Like, next jet. Or jet to like a economy airline.

Yeah.

That does like a couple trips a day from England to Turkey.

See that, now it all makes sense because I'm not going to say on an american flight, but on an american flight, they don't. They're not forthcoming with the alcohol. And by the way, I'm not glamorizing drinking, I just think it's funny, you know, but that's what a bunch of british lads are gonna do when they get together and they're going off on holiday and whatever they do, they start drinking very early. But because it's a budget airline, they're selling the booze, you know what I'm saying? Because on a plane where it's like long haul or whatever, it's free drinks, they'll give you two or three and then they'll start getting stingy and then they'll cut you off, you know, so we think you've had enough, you know? But because they're selling it, that's the only reason they sold out in 25 minutes, because they were making a profit. If they weren't, they'd be like, no, we're cutting you off. Fair play. But I sent you that little Instagram post. What did that say?

I believe it was that 50% of british teens 13 years or younger say that they have gotten drunk at least once. So, heavy drinkers early.

Yeah. No, no, no. But what was the actual. The headline of the meme? What was it? It was like bing. I forget what it was. That was.

I sent it to the UK.

Right. Thank you. This is. This is the headline. Not all the UK has the worst rate of child alcohol consumption in the world, with more than half of children having drunk by the age of 13. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate that. Which, which. We have a laugh when we get silly, but it is a difference in culture, because binge drinking in the UK is just a part of life. It really is like, I don't know, I mean, in California, where I live, it doesn't seem like that is the culture. I don't know what it's like in New York. And obviously there's many different people and many different areas all over the country. But in the UK, certainly. No, no, I think I can speak for, like, definitely working class people. They live for the weekend, they go and get shit face drunk and that's. That. That's just. That's just what they do at the weekend. Not saying that's a blanket statement. It's not everybody. And I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm just saying it's an observation. And I'm glad that we've come out here and live in California, where that's not the way.

Callum doesn't do it, Ellie doesn't do it. I sure as hell hope Lucas doesn't do it. He's 13. But there's a big, big. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've been in many a club where people are up, of course I'm saying. But it's not all they do every Friday and Saturday. Sometimes every Thursday. Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Speaker one.

Well, especially on the west coast where you are.

Where.

Where. You know, like the. I bet there's more vegans per capita in. In California than there are in England too, right? Like, people are just more health conscious in a different way around where you're at. But I know my high school when I think was a sophomore, we ranked number two in the country of all high schools as far as teen drinking goes. And a lot of that, a lot of that just has to do with, like, the way you report, right? Like, so if you're going to dark on yourself and say, yeah, do we throw keg parties every weekend, unlike every other high school in America? Like, that is going to make it seem like you guys are drinking way more than the average. So maybe english kids are just more honest about it. But I did know. I want to note this. When I was 16, I took a trip to London as a class trip. And the rule of thumb there was, if you can see over the bar, you can order at it. I had no fake id and I think I got drunk eleven days out of twelve.

Well, that's what I was going to say. In the UK. Just come and join the UK. The drinking age is 18, so obviously children get exposed to it way earlier because we're all faking our age when we're a certain age, aren't we?

I never did that.

Yeah, you did. Don't lie. We're just talking about the drinking culture in the UK.

Yeah.

What was it? UK was listed as the worst country in the world.

What was that headline for teen drinking? Highest rate of teen drinking anywhere in the world.

And I was just saying how it seems here and maybe I'm wrong and predominantly, this podcast is an american audience, predominantly UK. Second, don't worry, I haven't forgot about you people. But they might be sitting there shit faced right now listening to this and thinking you don't know what you're talking about. But the drink culture certainly does seem to be different, doesn't it?

Yeah, no, it does. They start younger and it is way more regularly. It's a Friday and it's a Saturday religiously. And you get really excited about it when you're younger. It's like the highlight of your week. Yeah, but here. I don't know. They must.

I don't know.

I didn't grow up in America, but there must be some people that are like that too.

Also has to be.

When I was a kid, like me and my friends used to just go shit, get shithouse. But we started a little later than 13. We started like 16, I think.

Yeah, I. Michael Jay saying you started at 13.

I never said that. That's what the studies.

Oh, right, yeah. That's young. That's kind of shocking. I hope that's not the case.

Yeah, no, no, I wasn't doing that at 13. Far from it. I think, though, the thing is as well, like, this is funny. Is it? We always say this, like clithero. Where I'm from, it's just a string with a bunch of like, old school pubs, you know? There's no clubs, there's. In fact, there is no nightclub. There's nothing like it, you know what I mean? That comes close to a nightclub. It's just like old school. Like geezers, pubs, you know, like proper, proper boozers. And everyone, like the youngsters, the girls, it's hilarious. It can be pouring down with rain, minus three outside blowing a gale. And they are dressed up to the nines.

Yeah.

Tiny little mini skirts. Not a coat inside. Shit faced, falling all over the street, throwing up.

I did it.

You did? I did it.

Not the mini dresses, but I like a tiny top. No jacket. Not what, like, I don't understand why, but, yeah, no jacket.

Like a.

Just not even a long sleeved.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's good. That's good. I will say this. The clientele right there is better than what clither? I was offering at the time. No offense. You know what I'm saying? Brian picks the best. You know, I'm not saying the best looking girls in the world, but a decent looking group.

Yeah, but, yeah. Drinking culture, probably same as Australia. I would imagine that's gonna be pretty up there.

Australia's exactly the same.

They like a good drink, too.

And it's 18 there as well.

It is 18.

So I think the correlation is because it's 21 out here. And I now, as a father and as an adult, of course, I think 20 one's the correct age because I disagree. Well, let me finish my point first. And then you can politely disagree because everybody cheats or, like, you know, they push the limit. They're trying to get served before you, 21 and stuff like that. Fake ids, whatever. If you look old enough, it'll pass. So in the UK, like, I was getting served when I was 15 years old, you know, and I was going to the local off license and buying alcohol for all the. The group that I was friends with. And we go clitheroe castle, and we'd all get shit faced and we wouldn't know what was going on. And we'd end up getting in fights and I'd get in scraps and getting arrested and just like, getting into all kinds of stupidness. Because you're 15 years old and you're binge drinking because that's what everyone does. You get blackout drunk and you've got no business being in that condition when you're 15 years old. Right. Because nothing good comes of that.

Nothing good. There is. Nothing good comes. Granted, you might bump into some random australian girl. All right, so I'm countering my own words. But you weren't 15, though. No, I wasn't, but you know what I mean?

Thank God.

Thank God.

I don't think I would have liked.

You would have been 13 or 14. Yeah. You wouldn't have liked me at 15. Definitely not. No, no. But the point is. So when you're in America and you're trying to do the same thing, you're gonna be 1920. You know what I'm saying? At least then the brain's a little bit more mature, it's a little bit more evolved. You can handle things a little bit better. So, you know, a few of the rules in America, I think are insane, but that's what I do. Like. Yeah.

And it's like, look, if these kids. There's a will, there's a way. Right? Like, you know, despite it being 21, like I said, at I think at twelve years old, my friends and I used to race to see who'd be the first to finish six beers. You know, like, that was like a big, like, man point for you if you could get six beers down and not puke. Before we were in high school.

Sorry, we used to play Edward 40 hands and people would either piss their hands or finish their beers.

I'm gonna. It involves a 40 ounce bottle of.

It involves 240 ounce bottles of beer and some duct tape. And your friends duct tape those 40oz of bottle of beer in your hand and.

Right.

Cannot be released until that bottle is empty.

So I take back everything I said about binge drinking in America.

You are completely undoing everything he just said.

Yeah, well, no, it's like we live in Lardy darb, fancy pants, orange county, you know what I mean?

It's happening out here. We just don't see it. We live in a complete bubble here.

Oh, yes. No, no. All the kids are taking Xanax and opioids and bloody fentanyl. Do you know what I mean? You don't need alcohol.

They don't need alcohol. They've got all the drugs they want.

You do. Especially in the bloody rich areas. Yeah.

Anyway, yeah, I don't think 21 kind of really helps in that respect. Just. And back to Brian Harrington. It didn't stop them, so.

Yeah, no, but.

Well, I think. I think some laws should be changed to 21, but I think drinking is fine at 18.

I do think there is like a certain amount of people who had curbed. And it definitely got them to start a little bit later, having the age range be 21. Like, I do know people who went through all of high school without touching a drop, so.

Well, Ellie's 21 now and she doesn't go out, does she?

No, because she already. She got it out of system, which I didn't.

She got it out of the system when she was about 1516, not getting hammered. Although she was a little bit drunk a couple of times. Shit faced one time, and she locked me out. We locked you out of the house? Yeah. Rebecca was in Australia.

Oh, you make me sound like such a bad mother. I never go away. The one time I go to Australia.

I come back and I'm like, I'm locked out the house. And I'm like, what? She's upstairs, passed out drunk. I couldn't wake her up, but I'm locked out the bloody house.

She didn't do it on purpose.

No, she just didn't realize she locked up. Anyway, she'll be very happy. I told you that it's time for you to go, Bear, because we're going to talk some mixed martial arts.

Bye, guys.

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They already hit you up about it. I saw that everywhere. That went everywhere because I did a.

Live on karate combat. Lou Rockhold and Joel Schilling. And people were saying in the comment section, you should do the trilogy with Luke. And I was like, in the good mood and being a little bit silly. I'm like, yeah, sure. Come on, let's do it. Make me an offer. Anyway, we'll see. We'll see if an offer comes in. You never know. Your boy might be back. He's not. He's not. I was having a laugh, but you never know what was going to say in mixed martial arts. I've seen a lot of fouls. We've seen some random stuff. What's the craziest thing you've ever seen? Go down in a cage mid fight? I mean, obviously could be jumping over the cage after the fire. UFC. That was mental. But have you got anything?

Wasn't there a fighter who pooped their pants?

That would be one Yoel Romero. Okay.

It did happen.

There was a female that kind of had an evacuation mid contest.

Had some brown spotting in the trunks there.

Yeah, I forget who that was. I forget the name. But anyway, the point I'm making is you've seen this video. So there's a amateur MMA fight or professional? It was an amateur regional show, and the guy just throws up out the blue, like a blue liquid, and the fight gets called off immediately. And I saw that, and it just made me think, what's the craziest thing? Brian, can you play that tape, please, buddy? Josh, look at it here.

He needs to come in with kind of a.

What's going on there?

Don't step in it, bro. Don't step right in it, you psycho.

He did step right in it. Just play it again, because, like, there was no, like, retching beforehand. What do we know what round this was? The only reason I ask is because, as I say it. Look, he just went and emptied his mouth. It didn't look like he was and threw up. There was no wrenching there.

It looked like a mouthful of powerade, like.

Yeah, definitely.

Like a guy trying to not fight.

Yeah, not exactly. That's where I'm going with this. I mean, listen, the referee did the right thing by calling it awfully. You can't be throwing up mid range, mid fight, you know, and expect your opponent to tangle with you, slithering in your throw up, getting ground and pounded in your face with chunks of carrot in there. Do you know what I mean? Disgusting. And could you imagine the smell? Speaking of prime, did you see? Apparently it's got these forever chemicals in it? Yes. Yeah. Apparently these forever chemicals that you should not drink. And apparently prime again sued. I don't know. You don't know what to believe with AI these days. I know nothing about it. But anyway, that looks like prime to me, or something like that. I can't think what other reason why you would have blue liquid in your mouth.

Yeah, it's got to be some kind of. Some kind of sports drink and most likely, yeah, probably prime. I mean, it's on trailer. They, you know, their association with the Paul, so it makes sense.

Was that fire on trailer?

It was on trailer. Yeah, it was Dynasty warrior seven, I believe it was.

Oh, I missed six. Dynasty warriors seven. They're on seven already. They're knocking out the events. Jesus Christ.

Did you. Obviously, you're known for having incredible cardio, and like you said, you've been doing mixed martial arts your whole life, but did you ever have a point, like when you were first early on where that was hitting you, like you where the pukes came in?

No, not really, dog. I'm wrong. I'm not saying I never got tired. Of course I did. I got extremely tired. And I learned the hard way. You know, I got my ass kicked in, but I actually. I actually won. But it was a miserable experience. I was so tired in a kickboxing fight. I've said it before many times. You know, I went eight rounds. First four, I tried to kill him. I didn't. The next four, I just got kicked to shit for four rounds, and I learned my lesson. That's why I was saying to Anthony on Thursday, the cardio. The cardio. So important. And I know I've said this a million times, but I do hope Anthony is smashing it on the cardio front because it doesn't matter how good his skills are, doesn't matter how good Vito Petrino is. Once you start getting halfway through that second round, you're generally tired. Even if you're incredibly fit, you're still going to be tired. You're still going to make mistakes. You're still going to get a little bit sloppy, you still get distracted. And if you're breathing like that, it takes forefront of everything. It's the number one thing that you're thinking about.

All you're thinking of is, can we stop for a second so I can catch my breath? Because right now I haven't got the strength to fight you, to push you off, to defend guard, to check a leg kick, to stop a takedown, to sprawl. Just get back to my feet. If you're tired, that's it. It's over. Forget about it. And as the fight gets closer and closer, I get more and more nervous, you know? Oh, dear. UFC 301 just around the corner, though. That came around quickly. Dude, it's.

It's, you know, I think we have what we had a week off, then we got a fight night, then, boom, right back into it. Like it's. They are. They are not taking it easy on us.

Speaking of prime our sugary drinks, we'll just discuss this quickly here. A New York City law states that all items with over 50 grams of added sugars will now have a warning label. Aching to warnings on cigarette packages.

Yeah, so it's going to be, like, a big thing that shows, like, how many extra scoops of sugar. So I think at 50 grams, it's one giant scoop, 100 grams, it's like two giant scoops. And the idea is to just tell people, hey, just so you know, if you are consuming this, there is, like, a decent chance of diabetes, heart disease, et cetera, et cetera. And I think it makes sense. The same way they have it on cigarette labels.

It makes perfect sense because sugar is such a. It's a beautiful thing. Don't get me wrong. I've got a sweet tooth. I love ice cream. I'm on a diet right now. I've got a movie role coming up, so I'm trying to, like, diet early. I still find myself dipping that, you know, dipping the spoon in the ice cream. I just have a couple of scoops, and my rebecca buys these chocolate covered cashews. I can't resist them. I keep saying, stop buying those cashews. She says, I don't buy them for you. I'm like, yeah, but I need them. I'm the only one. I'm going through three quarters of them. I've got a sweet tooth. So I get it. But I think a lot of people just have no idea the amount of sugar that's hidden in foods. They just have absolutely no idea. So if you put on a label like that, and a lot of the time, it's not even going to be the kids. It'll be the parents. The parents don't realize, you know, I mean, the cereals, the orange juices, and just the sodas and all the rest of it, not mention candy and all that kind of crap.

Of course, that's obvious, Evan.

I'm seeing it now with baby food, dude, with these package of baby food. Some of them have, like, 20 to 30 grams of sugar. My baby weighs 30 pounds. She can't process that much sugar. There's no way.

Evan.

I don't necessarily have an issue with it. I mean, I'm no nutritionist, so I don't know the science of it. But another word for sugars is carbs. And there's refined and unrefined, and there's processed sugars. So processed sugar, you don't really want to be taken in, but for a baby, I'd say any kind of fuel. Get that fucker growing. You know, that's like when Lucas goes training. He goes, does 2 hours of training, he does an hour of jiu jitsu or wrestling and an hour of striking. And then like Monday, she cooked us a nice steak with carrots and mushrooms. I said, all right, are you gonna do some rice or something? Some Mac and cheese for Lucas? She goes, no, he's fine. I'm like, babe, he's 13 years old, he needs carbohydrate to go with that. Especially when he just trained for 2 hours. She's no, he'll be fine. He doesn't care. I'm a babe. Shut up. Someone that was an athlete for most of my life, he needs to recover. And on top of that, he's 13 and he's growing. So anyway, so I think your baby will be fine as long as it's not terrible.

But I think it's most of the parents, most. Most people don't know and they make it extra confusing as well, because then when you look at the sugar in the ingredients on the back, it'll say per serving, you know what I mean? So it's a little misleading. And then you figure out, hold on a minute, there's ten servings in this pack, you know what I mean? And also another bullshit one is the. The net carbs, you know, when you reduce them. So there's a scam where I said scam. That's a strong term. But they say things are low carb because the net carbs in this, if you reduce the amount of fiber grams, that comes off the carbs. And it's just the net carbs. Yeah, apparently that there's what?

Sugar alcohols, you can do that too.

What do you mean?

So like, you know, if there's a sweetener in there that's like 26 grams of sugar, but it's sugar alcohols and not proper sugar that gets, you know, you can take that off the. The net carbs on the label packaging even though it sends the serious body.

Yep. And people fall for that.

Yep.

Well, yeah, they do. Of course. What am I saying? I fell for it for years on the air because I love whenever I have my breakfast and I had it again today, sausage, eggs, bacon. I do without the wrap sometimes the tortilla, do you know what I mean? But it's so much better with you load all that tortilla, put a bit of chipotle sauce. Yes, I know that sugar, but shut up. Roll that bastard up. Oh, it's good. And, yeah, the wraps, I was like, oh, these are low carb wraps. Get these one bed. You know, I fell for it. And then the alcohol. That's definitely dumb. Point is, a lot of people don't realize the shit that they are putting in their body trying to eat natural foods. We're on a big natural kick these days. Whole foods cook. It's not even that hard. Like Monday when we had steak. Steaks don't take long to cook the carrots. Rebecca just covers whole carrots. You don't even need to peel them. Cover them in a little bit of olive oil, throw them in the oven. Forget about them. They'll be delicious mushrooms. Chuck them in the same pan as you do in your steak, Bosch.

20 minutes. Well, you put the carrots in early. Before you know it, you've got an amazing meal there. Lucas is dying of starvation because he's got no carbs. She did him some Mac and cheese, but, you know, people just don't realize it's the sugar, man. That's the devil. That's the enemy. That's what's causing all the excessive weight gain, causing the diabetes, the hypertension, high blood pressure. The list goes on. Yeah.

I'm no fan of Eric Adams and pretty much anything in his administration so far, but this is. This, I feel like, is one of those rare wins where it's like, oh, you're informing the public. You're not dictating how people have to have to, you know, behave themselves. But I do enjoy being a little bit more informed.

There is a slightly more dastardly motive to this as well.

Okay.

Of course.

Well, they're implementing fines for everybody who doesn't, for stores that don't abide by this rule. So it's just suck money out of people that really can't afford it.

Yeah, yeah. But. But on the flip side, though, Brian, like, I don't.

I don't disagree with what you said earlier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they should mandate so people know what they're putting in the body. And if people don't buy, abide by that, then of course there's got to be some kind of result for that. Hasn't. Sure.

But, I mean, everybody already puts nutrition facts on their labels, right? Like, it's.

It's. They make it very hard. As I was just saying, they make it really hard to understand. Like. Like, some people just know nothing about nutrition. They know nothing.

You know, two giant red scoops of sugar. You can figure that out.

There was another thing today, brian. Stay on, stay on. There was another thing today, airlines. Did you see that? Airlines. Now if a flight is delayed over 3 hours or canceled, they will have to give cash refunds because you know, a lot of time they give you vouchers and stuff like that. Now, 3 hours delayed or canceled cash refund, which I think is phenomenal because the airlines just get away with so much because you're just at their win, you know what I mean? All power and control, you got no saying anything. But I tell you what, if they have to start paying back some money for what they owe you for the flight because they never fulfilled their obligations, hopefully we see some things change just like with it.

I agree again, but just like with everything else where the government mandates that a business has to pay something, that cost is not going to come from nowhere. Like the revenue lost is going to come from the customers.

They're not well over this.

That's what, that's.

Yeah, but I understand what you're saying is, and, and you, and we should have a good conversation about this because this is your point on a lot of things. But also things do need to have, people need to be penalized for not providing a service. I mean because what's the alternative? They don't do their job, they don't go on time, they cause somebody to miss a flight, miss their connection, miss a business meeting, miss the entire reason they were going on a playing in the first case but then. But they have no repercussions if they don't fulfill their obligations. There has to be. And right now that I think is good is that the person at least will get their money back for the flight. I think that's a good thing and you're right in what you say, but you know, there's got to be some repercussions of course, and, but the loss.

Of revenue from like fuel costs like let's just say hypothetically a flight gets diverted from us like a giant storm and it has to like land somewhere else and it doesn't make it to the airport that it needs to get to make its connection. Now the airline is going to lose out on all the revenue from that flight perspectively. Right. And then they're just there. They just don't deal with losing money well so it's just gonna, it's just gonna push the cost of the customer. Well, anything that you're saying is wrong either. I'm just saying.

No, no, no. Sure, sure. No, no, no. This is a system though, that's been in place for, in, in Europe. For years because my dad's an expert. My dad is a God damn anytime in life if we're chatting on a plane and I'm traveling, he's like, it's delayed. How long is it delayed? And I'll say, I spent two bloody hours. Dad. He said, oh, you want to hope that it's me? You want to hope that it's a three hour delay, because then on a three hour delay, they owe you for a hotel, they owe you for your flight, they owe you for a meal. Do you know what I mean? And he starts getting excited, and there's five of you. Oh, my. He starts doing the math in his head and stuff. Do you know what I mean? My dad's an expert on all that kind of shit. But the point I'm making is that's a system that's been in place in Europe for a long time. And I don't think we've necessarily seen, you know, like, I mean, prices are always going up on airlines. It's ridiculous.

And there's more discount airlines in Europe than anywhere else.

So there's much shorter flights in Europe as well. Like, to go from one side of America to the other is like going from England to Russia. Right.

To Africa. Oh, no, I know. Yeah.

It's like a crazy, it's a crazy distance, comparatively. So, like, flights.

Oh, no. In America, well, it's a quiet week for mixed martial arts. There is some fights this weekend, but I haven't looked at the card. I'm just going to be completely honest. So I think we'll wrap this one up. I want to say thank you to Armistar Rukian. We'll do a couple of questions first. If you got them, send them in. We've had some questions come in, and there's been some nonsense in the questions. And when I say nonsense, I mean distasteful comments. Guys, come on. We like a laugh. We like to be silly, but there's no need to start getting insulting, not with us, to other people. You know, we're not gonna, we're not gonna read out insults. We're not gonna read out racial things, racial slurs and stuff like that. There's been some wild stuff coming in. So Brian says there's a, there was a really good question, and then it just did a U turn real quick into something else. And so anyway, none of that stuff, but good questions, please, about mixed martial arts, about life and whatever you got, hit me@bympodmail.com.

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All right, so the first question we got here today is from this guy named Wonger.

Wonger.

What's up, Mike? What's up, Anthony? Brian Harrington. No, I'm just out here doing my dudes, delivering these packages. But my question is, I'm going to my first ever UFC event, UFC 302 in New Jersey, to see that diamond Dustin Poyer, become the undisputed lightweight champion of the world. But my question is, what should I expect when I'm there? Is there anything I should do? Just give me a little advice. Of what? Like, what do you expect from my first ever UFC, let alone being a pay per view? Something I'm wanting to do forever. Finally, the opportunity presented itself and I'm making it happen. I'm so excited. I cannot wait. It'd be awesome to maybe run into one of you guys there, but I understand if you guys there, you're gonna be busy anyway. Who cares? But, yeah, so you guys give me a quick shout back on that. It'd be awesome. You, Harrington, Anthony, go get this dub boy. Let's go. Take care, guys.

Let's. Let's go indeed, wonger. Thank you for the question. This sounds, like, really bad. Most of the time I've been to the UFC isn't necessarily as a fan. I've either been fighting or I'm working. I have been to a few events as a fan, and I. That's my favorite way to attend as a fan. No work obligations whatsoever. Sit there like we did at MSG last year, sit there and enjoy the fights. Have a cocktail and just enjoy it. It's great. It's amazing. Most of the time. I've got my work hat on, though. What suggestions have you? What to expect? Expect, certainly with it being a pay per view, with it being Islam versus Dustin, with it being Sean Strickland and Paul Costa. Do we have any other announcements on that card, by the way?

Yeah, there are a few. I know. I know. For instance, like Mickey Galvers, Val Woodburn is on that card. I'm trying to see who else we have. Brandy Brown versus Santos. Cesar Almeida versus Roman Coppola. Nico price versus Jeremiah Wells. Jaltan Almeida versus Romanov is on that card. Pretty fun.

Dylan versus Anthony. Fluffy Hernandez. What else? Grand Dawson. Joe Selecki. Phil Rowe, Jake Matthews. A good fight. Yeah, Phil. Roll. Basil Harvest. That's a tough fight. I'm sorry, Mickey. Goal. Basil Harvest. Should I say, expect to be thoroughly entertained. Expect Bruce buffer to blow your mind. Expect the feeling when the entire crowd all goes, it's time to just be like, yeah, let's go. Full of excitement. This sounds like I'm being a company guy again. But you, Brian, you've been there. Sorry, Harrington, you've been there. When it starts, when they play that highlight package with the who comes on Baba O'Reilly, right? It gives you chills, man. It's amazing.

It might be the closest thing I've really come to, like, a religious experience, like, where people are, like, in mega churches and they're like, oh, my God. Like, that's kind of what it feels like when. When the UFC, like, kicks off the event.

Yeah. Do you know that's a really good way of putting it. Not from a religious standpoint, but in terms of, like, how people become so engrossed, because you're absolutely right. And when it's a special fire card, which that will be, and it is going to be, when it's a pay per view of that magnitude, you feel the specialness. I mean, UFC 300 was something ridiculous to be there, you know, to use the expression. It was palpable, the atmosphere in the air, but it really was. That's what you got to expect, buddy. That's what you got to expect. You two, as fans, any suggestions for him?

Oh, I'm all over this one. So my first event was that it was UFC 159, where you fought Allen Belcher headlining the car. Chail sun and verse, Jon Jones. It was at the same arena. So I can give you every single tip that I did when I went there. Show up like an hour before. What's up?

If you want to do every single tip, maybe you could shoot him a DM, but go give him a content version of tapes.

Show up an hour before the first fight even happens, because typically, for a pay per view like this, there's going to be meet and greets outside, and I know I got to meet Gilbert Melendez and a couple of other really cool guys early on. You'll see a lot of fighters showing up that early, just walking around the hallways, typically there's like, you know, some cell phone company or some. Some company is going to have a belt. You'll be able to take a picture with the belt, get the first run at the MeR, like, for your first event. Be there from the first fight on the prelims on. Right. Because there is. There are fights I can remember where, you know, that 1st, 2nd fight way down on the card in person was so sick and I'm so happy that I got there as early as I did. And, yeah, as Michael was saying, make sure you are in your seats, don't take a piss break, don't go and get food for when they're making the transition from prelims to the main card because as soon as the opening licks of Baba O'Reilly it. You're in for the next three and a half minutes.

You're not taking your eyes off that screen, I promise you.

Yeah, no, I'm very well said there because some valuable tips as well. And enjoy it, man. And get there, really. I mean, the thing is, the cool kids in Vegas, they get there, you know, sometimes before the coal main event even starts. Rebecca, we always have this. She wants to get there later on because she's not that big of a fan. And when Callum was younger, he wanted to be there super early. Even on the nights when I was fighting, Rebecca didn't want to get there till about the coal main event and Callum would be pulling his hair out, literally. You're going, mom, are you serious? Because he was a mega fan.

Max Holloway fighting Ricardo Lamas.

Let's go.

As he got older, he would go by himself, you know, and just go down there to the arena by himself. But, yeah, that used to piss him off big time. Speaking of which, please join me in wishing Callum bisping a happy 23rd birthday today. 23 years old, feels like yesterday. Living in San Francisco, living his life. I'm really proud of the person he is. And I was texting him before because he's doing this job, you know, and he's a little. It's a good job and he likes it and he likes the people, but he's a bit like, is this going to be it for the rest of my life? And I'm like, well, son, you're learning experiences and he's very happy where he works, in case they're listening. He is happy where he works and he gets paid decently for his first ever job. It's fantastic. I said, this is the part of life, figuring yourself out, figuring what you don't want to do, figuring what makes you happy, what makes you feel accomplished, what makes you feel like you've achieved something. And if you don't like it, guess what? You don't have to stay there for the rest of your life.

You know, there's other options and other avenues, but this is just about getting experience for right now. Getting in the real world, getting in the workplace, paying your bills, driving to work, dealing with traffic. Just that everyday bullshit, mundane grind of life. And then figure out what you want to change from there. Because until you start going through that stuff, you just don't know what you want, what you don't want. What pisses you off because he's just left college, and this is his first ever job. And, you know, I'm like, dude, you're 22. You've got your entire life ahead of you. But, callum, happy birthday, son. We're all very proud. Give him a follow on Instagram while you're at it as wellumbisbee. But that's the show.