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Ladies and gentlemen, today, I'm joined by the one and only legendary fighter, comedian, extraordinary, UFC analyst, This legendary coach, the one and only Mr. Dean Thomas. What's going on, Dean?

I'm good, man. I didn't know you thought about me that way. Well, I'm honored to be on the show today.

Brother, come on, man. Everything I said is true, especially the comedian stuff. You are fucking hilarious on social media, man.

I like to pick on you guys, man. You guys are so easy to pick on, man. It's awesome.

Yeah, you do pick on all of us quite a lot. Even Dana White, you always take the piss out of Dana as well.

Well, you know what? I think I'm one of the only people in the world that can because we do the show together, Dana White, looking for a fight. And that's the dynamic of our relationship. So he allows me to pick on him.

It's funny.

Yeah. No, it's perfect. Listen, Dean, you're perfect to join us today as well, because obviously, you have seen 299 going down this weekend. Dustin Poeya is fighting. You used to coach at ATT, right? Is that correct?

Yeah, I did. So you know those guys? So I worked with Dustin for a little bit. In fact, when I was still fighting And me and Dustin were just straight training partners. Then when I retired, I did work with him a few times for a few of his fights, but what a tremendous athlete and human being that man is.

100 %. We'll get to that in a second. So have you found that, Dean? Obviously, from being a fighter to now being a coach and also an analyst for the UFC, how's that whole journey been?

The thing is, getting started in this game in the mid '90s, I I've done it all. So for me, when people talk about, Oh, you're a coach, or you're this, you're that, I feel like I've done everything that MMA has to offer, really. It's from promoting my own shows to grappling tournaments, to coaching, to owning schools, to a little bit of everything. I've done everything in this game, so I just love still being a part of it.

Yeah, and that's incredible, Dana. When you say the mid '90s, that's wild. People said to me, In England, they're very kind, they say pioneer and stuff like that. The mid-flipping '90s, though. As somebody involved in those days then to where it is now, did you ever think this would happen?

Never in a million years. Not in a million years. I remember thinking, man, I wish people took our sport seriously. That's what was on my mind back in the early 2000s and late '90s. They didn't take the sport serious. So I was always wanting, man, when are we going to be on ESPN? When are they going to take us serious? When Why can't we get treated like real athletes? And now to see where we are today, I'm just blown away. I really am. I'm blown away. To be able to sit on airplanes and watch fights, it just blows my mind. But I'm happy.

I should have said the fashion forward, Dean Thomas, as well, because you love a good cravate.

I'm very posh in that sense, Mike. I'm very posh.

No, and I love it. So when you say mid '90s, what was the first UFC event that you ever fought on?

I fought on UFC 31, and that was in 2001. So I fought BJ Penn in 2001. And obviously, I got knocked out. That was my first UFC fight. I got knocked out. I was like, Damn, no. Help somebody. Come get me. And then I came back for UFC. That was '32. I'm sorry, UFC '32. I got knocked out. Then I came back for UFC '33. That was in September, just after 9/11, and I fought Fabiano E. I. That was the very first fight in Las Vegas, very first sanctioned fight in Las Vegas, and I fought on that card.

Fabiano E. Wow. That's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Yeah. So that was back in 2001.

What was the event where you knocked out your good friend and colleague, Matt Serra?

I think that was '41. I think that was '41, and that was in Atlantic City. But I didn't knock them out, man. We had a good little scrap. A head kick, right? No, no, no. Yeah, that was Eve Edwards and Josh Thompson. Don't worry, listen, everybody gets that wrong. In fact, we were doing an episode of Dana White looking for a Fight. I'm sitting next to Habib, and Habib is like, Hey, man, you knocked out my friend. And I'm like, Who? He's like, Josh Thompson. And I'm like, No, man, that was Eve Edwards.

Oh, shit. Listen, Listen, as I said, I thought you'd be perfect to speak to you today with UFC 299. Are you in Miami?

Yeah, I'm in Miami. Well, I live down here, so I'm pretty close.

Yeah. So Dustin Poeya, you're knowing him very well. Give us your overall thoughts on the events, the fights, and all the rest of it, and then give us some insight into Dustin versus Benoît-Sandini.

I love this event. When this event started shaping up, everybody was excited for it because just the magnitude of the card and the fights on the card. When you think about it, when you look at the prelims, fights on the prelims. In fact, the main event on the prelims was actually supposed to be a main event in Brazil, Jelton Almeida versus Curtis Blaze. That was a main event in Brazil until Curtis Blaze got hurt. Then when you look at fights like Mateos Gamra taking on RDA, I mean, all these fights on the prelims could be main events at the apex. So stand-alone, this is a tremendous card, one of the best cards that we've seen in a long time. And I think that it's going to live up to the hype because we got a lot of matchups, key matchups that look like veterans versus young guys. So it's a matter of, do these veterans still have it? Can they hold their spot? Or is it time for the young guys to come up? So a lot of exciting story lines on this card. But no more than Dustin Fourier and Benoit Saint-Denis talking about veterans and up and comers.

I mean, this is a dangerous fight for Dustin. He knows it. That's the reason why he took this fight, but I think he needs to take a fight like this because these guys at the top, you have to be able to give opportunities to young guys because you got an opportunity once, you got to be able to return to favor. And if you can't win these spots, then maybe you don't deserve to be there. So I think it's a perfect fight for Dustin if he can win. If he doesn't win, I think this is a situation where he might need to look into the mirror and ask himself, does he really still want to do this?

Yeah, which is funny you say that because he did mention this week. He said, Every time I fight these days, being, what is he, 35, now 36, it can always be the last one, potentially. Benoît Saint-Denis, though, is the opposite side of the spectrum. Five in a row, five wins, five stoppages, very, very young, dying Dynamic fighter, very, very well-rounded. What do you think about this matchup? Who do you think walks away the winner?

I mean, it's a tremendous matchup. I mean, Benoît Saint-Denis has been absolutely brilliant inside the octagon. He's got knockout wins, he's got submission wins, means. So he seems to be able to do it all. But when you're fighting somebody like Dustin, the one thing he is lacking is experience. And Dustin said, Okay, I know he's lacking experience because he doesn't have the cage time that I have. So let's make this five rounds, and let's make him sit and think about what he's going to do for 25 minutes, which could be a problem for him.

So that was Dustin's idea?

I think so. I think that was Dustin's idea. I'm sure Dustin... And speaking to Dustin, I spoke to him and he said, Yeah, he definitely wanted the five rounds, the extra two rounds, because when you get extra two rounds, it's a completely different pace in. You can't go out and throw the type of power that Benoît Saint-Denis does that early. You can, but it's a gamble because you're going to have to try to save somebody for later. And then Dustin knows that. So for that reason, I am favoring Dustin to have the experience in this fight, to drag this later on and to wear Benoît Saint-Denis out.

Sly old dog. That's a sly old dog right there. That's For sure.

If it was three rounds, I would probably go the other way. But in a five rounder, I think Dustin should be able to maintain his safety early on, not get caught with nothing crazy, not overextend himself, and just move around and play cat and mouse for a little bit, and then start to chop away as this fight progresses.

Amazing. You know, one of the first times I ever saw you in person, Dean, I think it was in Macau when Tyrone Woodley was fighting, was it Don Young Kim?

Yeah.

The stunt gun.

The stunt gun. Yeah, the stun gun.

Do you still see Tyron?

Yeah, I just talked to him the other day. That's my boy, man. He's always doing something, man. That's the most resilient individual I've ever met. I mean, he's a guy who it doesn't matter what happens to him. He lost his last four or five fights in the UFC. Then he goes and gets knocked out by Jake Paul, but you still can't tell him nothing. He's still the man. He's still doing his thing. But you know what? That's not the first time I saw you. The very first time. No, wait a minute. I swear.

Get ready to get these out, everybody.

I swear this is good. You're going to love this one. It was before that whole Dunjung Kim thing. I was in LA shooting this reality show. It was like, A low budget reality show. We were shooting a pilot, and we went into a club. And inside the club, you and Rampage Jackson were on the dance floor with your shirt off, twirling it around doing a helicopter. I swear to God. I swear to And I was like... Because I was just doing my thing at the time. You was the man, and you and Rampage was the man, and you was in there scrolling your shirt around, shirtless in the club. I was like, Oh, hell, no.

Oh, shit. There is a picture online of me and Rampage with our tops off. If you Google it, you can find it. And it's very, very embarrassing because Rampage... I mean, Rampage is the man. Shout out to him. He's got all the bling and the big chains and everything. I'm from the north of England. We don't wear shit like that. But I was all skinny, and I've got my shirt off, and I've got his chains on, and I look like an absolute dickhead. Hey, you're only young once. We're having fun.

Yeah, man.

Speaking of sly old dogs, speaking of being only young once, this is a segue. Oh, God. Here we go.

Oh, God. Oh, man. Look at this.

Brian, you're fired. You must have seen this news this morning. I got to get your take on this. Dean, you've been around the fight game forever. You can't stay in your prime, right? And we're not talking about somebody in their prime. I'm talking about Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson is 58 years old, taking on Jake Paul. I've come out and I did a couple of tweets on it. You know what I mean? People think I'm being a hater. People think I'm being jealous. As we know, Jake Paul is doing his thing. What the hell is this matchup?

No, this is not doing your thing. This is absolutely ridiculous. And I couldn't be more upset by this because now this is just taking it too far. I get it, man. Okay, you want to fight a couple of guys in their early 40s and still think they got it. But you're going to be fighting a man that's almost 60 years old. And the problem with that is that I talk to some guys today who don't really know a lot about fighting. And they really were like, Oh, man, Jake Paul is going to get beat up by Mike Tyson. And I was like, He's almost 60 years old. So the fact that there are people that believe that this can be competitive or that Mike Tyson is going to win this, I was Man, you're crazy. He's almost 60 years old. And Jake Paul ought to be ashamed of himself for doing this. He ought to be ashamed of himself for calling out Mike Tyson to try to fight the legacy in the history of what Mike Tyson has done. That's embarrassing.

That's exactly what I said on Twitter this morning. To him directly, I said, You should be ashamed of yourself because what is he getting out of this? What is he going to do? Is he going to go out there and legitimately try to knock out Mike Tyson? Because if you do that and you're successful when a man that's almost 60 years old, that's just disgraceful, if you ask me. And then it'd be amazing to see, but it's highly unlikely because Mike Tyson has probably got one round in him, if possible. And the power is the last thing to go. If Tyson was successful and managed to find that shot, that would be incredible. But what does he think he's achieving?

I have no idea. I mean, think about when we saw Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort. I mean, it wasn't even competitive. And you have to take into account. I mean, I'm 47 right now, and I can't fight nobody. You know what I'm saying? I couldn't imagine. At 47, I couldn't imagine fighting a 25-year-old. I couldn't imagine it. And the fact that he's doing this and calling him out after all he said about the fight game and helping fighters and all this, I want to help fighters make money, blah, blah, blah, blah, Coming back to the game and putting boxing on the mat, calling out Mike Tyson. Come on, man. If you want to help Mike Tyson, allow him to be the special guest referee.

Yeah, 100 %. And the way that he did it as well, he put on Twitter this morning, there's a video of him and Rafael Caudera hitting pads, and he said, Oh, one of my promoters or whatever sent me this two weeks ago and said that Mike Tyson is interested. And when I look at this, I'm like, Yeah, this really excites me. Heavyweight, let's do it. I'm like, Dude, how How stupid do you think the buying public is? Do you really think people are buying this? Listen, fair play to Mike. Go out there. Do you think, I hope he makes a shit ton of money. More importantly, I hope that he's okay. At what point as a man, do you allow this to What's going to happen when you're in your prime?

Man, I don't get it. To me, I feel like commissions should step in and go, We're not going to allow this to happen. What other sport do you know where a guy is almost 60 years old and still can get in there, except for golf, maybe. But they're not going to let a 60-year-old play football or basketball. I mean, it's ridiculous why this is going to even happen. It should not even happen. Like you said, if Mike Tyson were to able to land that punch and knock him out, I mean, that'd be a gift from God, but it's unlikely. It's highly unlikely that that's going to happen. So the thing with Jake Paul is we don't want him to be good. That's it. We don't want him to be good because he talks a lot. He's a YouTuber. We We want him to suck, but he doesn't. The reality is he doesn't suck. And he spent the last four or five years, spent millions of dollars to have the best resources in the world and the best coaches in the world and dedicated himself to the sport of boxing. I was in the corner of Tyron Woodley when he knocked him out.

It was heartbreaking. Watching Tyron Woodley go face first into the canvas, I wanted to completely quit combat sports at that moment because I was like, It ain't worth it to watch my friend get hurt like this. And so Jake Paul can fight. Let's make no mistake about it. He can fight. He fights better than what we wanted him to be able to. But the fact that the commission would allow this, to me, is a disservice to combat sports.

It is a disservice. And Harrington, our producer, just put it in the notes. Fifty is the age limit for the senior tour in golf. So he's way past that. So my thing was this. Listen, to be fair, we're all trying to make money. Okay? When he makes the world go round, it is a A vital part of Western culture. Everybody needs money, okay? The more of it, the better. Of course, he's made money. And I'm not just sitting there trying to rip on J. But he's got money. By all accounts, he makes millions of dollars every time he fights. From the YouTube side of things, he's made millions of millions of dollars. At one point, as a man, you just say, It's enough. I don't need to do this. And I know we're going around in circles here, but it was just an extra point that I just thought of. It's like, Dude, you've got the money. Take on some wheel boxes. Be a fighter. Challenge yourself.

I don't know, man. Honestly, and me and Anthony Smith talk about this all the time. I'm just not a greedy person like that. I got to make money and I got to live the lifestyle that I want. And it's not lavish. I want to be able to eat a McDonald's whenever I feel like it. That's it. I don't need anything. I don't need a Lamborghini yet. But these guys, at what point do you just go, All right, man, this is enough money. I don't need to sell myself out for money. And I feel like these guys are selling themselves out for money while they're already rich, and it doesn't make any sense to me.

Well, the cost of Big Max is going up, Dean Thomas. What is the order when you go to McDonald's? What's your favorite?

Man, I always... I never really get the Big Max, man. Honestly, Mike, I always order off the dollar menu, man. I'm always like, And it's not even a dollar menu no more. It's not even really a dollar menu no more because they're like a dollar 99 now for We're like the double cheeseburgers.

Yeah, I do love a good double cheeseburger from McDonald's. I can't let you out of here without getting your thoughts on the main event, Sean O'Malley Cheeto. Obviously, a rematch. Cheeto is the only person to beat him. What is your thoughts on this one?

I always go back and forth with pics, and it just takes the right person to convince me. And it might have been you this time. You listening to your take on Cheeto, bringing in the right partners and knocking them out. I When we were listening to that, I was like, there might be something to that. There might be something to that, because I think Cheeto, especially with five rounds, Chido has an ability to beat guys that are better than him, guys that are more skilled, more technical, because he has this uncanning ability to touch you and hurt you and then make you not as good as you once were in the beginning of the fight. I feel as though if Chido can do that, he'll beat Sean O'Malley. He's got five rounds to try to find a few shots to hurt O'Malley and make O'Malley I make a mistake. So I think he could put him away. So I think as of right now, I think Cheto can do this. I think he could pull it off.

I'm glad you brought that up about when I said that Cheto was knocking out some of his spying partners. So Parillo told me he wasn't being a dick about it.

Yeah, I get that. No, I get that.

You've been around the game a long time. That just sometimes happens because we've all seen spying partners getting knocked out. You want to respect your training partners, of course, but sometimes When you're throwing down and it's the perfect shot, punch, kick, whatever it is, sometimes shit happens.

Yeah, listen, at this stage, man, not many people get a title shot. Not many people get opportunities to fight for a title. If you get an opportunity to fight for the title and you knock a couple of partners out, man, that's collateral damage. You got to pull out all the stops in order to try to make your dream come true because not many people get an opportunity to do it. And even if you When you do it, it doesn't last long. So when you have that opportunity, take full advantage of it. And if a couple of people get knocked out in the process, then you can say sorry afterwards.

Yeah, exactly. And it feels good. It's good going into those fights, knowing you dropped something in the camp.

Listen, you don't want to go into a fight, beat up, talk about, Yeah, man, I got my ass kicked off camp. You don't want to go into a fight thinking, Man, I do have the ability to hurt somebody.

Yeah, but it's funny, though, because sometimes that does happen. I mean, I've had training camps. I talked about it. You probably saw it. I've had training camps where I did get my ass kicked, where things just weren't going well. You know what I mean? And I went out and had the best fight of my night or of my career until that point. I've had the ones where I looked fantastic and then come fight night, I can't put it together.

Sometimes it doesn't correlate. It doesn't. And that's just MMA, really. That's just MMA. It doesn't make sense. Mma doesn't make sense because no matter what you do when you're in that cage for 15 minutes, you just can't control it.

Yeah, exactly. Well, Dean, thank you for your time today, brother. I see you're in the car. What's the plan for the rest of the day?

Oh, man, I'm just chilling, man. I'm just hanging out, getting ready to suit up so I go down to the Kaseya Center on Saturday night. But, man, I appreciate you, Mike, man. I can't wait to catch up with you again soon.

My man, Dean, take care, brother. Enjoy the weekend.

All right, you all. Be cool, man. Peace.

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Doing better than Ryan Garcia.

You know what? My take on this is because I thought about doing a YouTube video on it the other day. I downloaded a few bits and bits and all the rest of it, and I didn't feel comfortable doing it because that Twitter space is that he did. Is he called Twitter spaces? Is that what you call it? Yeah. That one that he did with Andrew Tate. I'm sorry. He is going through quite a severe mental breakdown right now. He really is. He needs medical attention. I think he can't handle the loss.

What loss? He lost to Javante Davis, and I think his whole life has been spiraling ever since because he was an undefeated boxer. That was the thing that he had.

Now he took a look- He came back and got a win, though. He got a win But it's got the big fight with Devon Haynie. Everyone's talking about him being high in cocaine. He's done some interviews where he was a little crazy and a little manic and all the rest of it. But this stuff now, this stuff saying that he was at Bohemian Grove or something, And then he was tied up, and then he was forced to watch kids being R-A-P-E-D. It's just insane. And then Andrew takes like, What do you mean? Have you got proof? He's like, Yeah, I filmed it on my phone. It's like, Well, hold on, let's just break this down a minute. If they kidnapped and they tied you up, how are you also able to film it on your phone? If I'm cross-examining you, that would be the first area where I went to to discredit you. Harrington, is your microphone working? Do you have a voice?

No, it is working. I also just find it funny that he also immediately came out and said, Oh, by the way, yeah, I don't have access to my phone anymore. I couldn't find those, but I had them on my phone. Trust me.

Yeah, but he did that video as well the other day, saying, They stole all my stuff. They've taken my cards. I can't access my money, and things like that. I haven't seen his tweets today, but I'm sure he's still wilding out, as they say.

This morning, it seems he's taken some medication or something because... Sorry about the plane. But he said that he's only going to be tweeting about boxing from now on. He's not going to be tweeting about anything else.

He said that literally yesterday morning and then did a whole thing about speaking in tongues yesterday.

Oh, so I guess I'm out of order.

And then, of course, Andrew Tate is like, Oh, you're going down a very serious path here, brother. You got to be careful. And then Andrew... Sorry, Goss, he's like, I'll get you off. And he's like, I don't think you can. He's like, I can. I'm a God. I'm a God. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, Oh, the poor guy. And that's why I was like, No, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing a YouTube video exploiting this guy's breakdown. Because it's sad. Sean Strickland came out and said, This guy's got CTE and no amount of money is worth the brain damage that he's having. Anthony has talked about this. Go on.

Strickland tweeted yesterday. He was like, If you put a kid in boxing at seven years old, you are committing child abuse. And he was talking about Ryan Garcia boxing since seven.

No, for sure. I mean, listen, I see his point, but I wouldn't go that far. I understand the point he's trying to make. But me and Anthony talk about this because everyone is straight away going, Oh, CTE, CTE. Even Strickland saying it. You're accusing somebody of having brain damage. It's not a laughing matter. It's not a joke. I mean, Jesus Christ, the amount of times I misspeak on here, and people are always, Oh, this been with the CTE. You got to go see a doctor. I just did that interview with Dean Thomas. You two know, I literally just woke up from a nap. I literally, as I logged in, I'm like, Oh, shit, Dean's here. He's there straight away. Wake up. We're not in a studio. I'm at home. I'm waiting for the caffeine to kick in. Do you know what I mean? Maybe I'm talking I've been out my ass for the first five minutes. It's not brain damage. I just might be stupid.

Narkolepsy.

That is fun.

I mean, listen, have you ever seen this in your life personally? Have you known Anyone who's just lost it, gone off to schizophrenia deep end?

Yeah, I think so. I've had a couple of people over the course of my life that I know where you're like, wow. In fact, there was one guy in the town where I grew up. He did Acid. He did Acid, and he never came back from it. He would walk around the town. Clithero's on your small place. He would walk around the town years later, and he thought he was James Bond. He actually thought he was James Bond. He did. And then people were like, Yeah, he did a fucking acid trip and never came back off it. Just wild delusions. Yeah, he was out of his mind, bless him. Because he was a bit of a... This guy, he was a bit of a bad boy, if you will. And then he finally calmed down. He was like, Every time he saw him, he was like a ghost. It was really sad to see. And of course, people do have nervous breakdowns. And I think that's what's going on right now. I think you need some serious medical help.

So what always strikes me about it whenever anyone's going through that, when you talk to them, they're so confident and so passionate about what they're saying that it's so hard to break through that shell that he's with. And it's like, I don't know, dude, are you supposed to be able to restrain a grown man against his will if he's going through something like this? Plus, he's got to fight in six weeks against a killer like Devon Haynie. The guy's got to be able to train. He can't go to rehab.

Yeah, Devon Haynie is a bad man.

Yeah, no, he is. And that's a real issue as well. You know what I mean? Because I think if a responsible athletic commission... Where's that fight happening? New York?

Let me double check that.

I'll find that. Yeah, but New York are very stringent. Getting cleared medically to fight in New York is not an easy thing. So He could be jeopardizing the fight there. I don't think the fight should go ahead, not unless he has a full evaluation. And I think any commission, certainly in the United States, is going to do that to him. There might be other countries where he could scrape through and still be able to fight, but getting on like that, the way he's acting so publicly, the way it's being picked up by the media, the large social media following that it has in the first place, it's put a massive spotlight on it. It's literally a huge talking point in general right now.

Yeah, we're talking about it, right? And that fight is going to be in Brooklyn.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, dear. Before Masvidal jumps on, should we talk about Jake Paul? Should we have a little... I mean, what was your thoughts? I thought this was like... I couldn't believe it. I woke up this morning, I looked at my phone, I'm having my coffee. I thought, no. I'm sorry, everyone, because I know we spoke about him recently, and we're not trying to do that, but it's just the shock and awe of it. To me, I couldn't I can't believe it. So that's why I retweeted directly to him. I'm like, Bro, you should be ashamed of yourself. And everyone's like, Oh, you're jealous. It's got nothing to do with that. How can you, as a grown man that's made plenty of money, that's in his prime, fight a 58-year-old man who was walking around on a cane until quite recently and still try and spin it that is going to make money, that he's taking on tough challenges. It's The biggest joke is the biggest insult to boxing. It's the biggest disrespect to Mike Tyson ever, because listen, Mike is going to do it. He's an older guy. He still got that dog in him.

He still feels like he can mix it up with the young box. Make some money, gives him something to get excited about, get back in the gym. You know what I mean? But Jesus Christ. J Paul got power, though.

Do you think Tyson is going into this thinking that he's going to go knock Jake Paul out?

Well, let's be honest. It's going to have to be an exhibition, isn't it? There's no way- I would hope so. Yeah, but Evander Holyfield and Veto Belfort, that was an exhibition match. Yeah, that's true. And Veto just went out there and just flatlined him in the first round. Again, didn't play the game. If you're doing an exhibition match like that, you're supposed to have an exhibition.

It's like Thunderlips and Rocky.

Yeah, just have a little bit of stink on some of the shots, but have a move around, have a bit of a play around. You know what I mean? If Jay was to go out there and just try and swing off on him, who knows? Maybe he gets knocked out because he does swing like this.

What if Tyson comes in with a tight uppercut?

It just be incredible. It really would. What's up, Jorge? How are we doing, buddy?

What's up, brother?

Good to talk to you, man.

How are you doing?

Hey, you're looking good, bro. You're looking good. I saw some pictures online recently. Were they photoshopped or what?

Man, that was at the Power Slap. And one of these influencers came up with his camera quiz. I started thinking, I go, Man, how did I look so fat in this shit? And one of his influencers came up to me and his cameraman asked me a question like, You know so and so. And I was like, Bro, yeah, whatever. I guess. And then they asked them. They went a little deeper into the question. They go, Hey, who's the king of Miami between you two? I think the other guy is from Miami. And I was like, Bro, listen, man, we're talking about violence. We're talking about fighting, things like that. I don't even know who the fuck this guy is. What are you doing here, bro? And I think them motherfuckers went and did the whole little car wash to the clip and made me look 300 pounds. But it's all good. It's better for me because then I don't even got to be skinny. I just got to look regular. And people are like, Holy smoke. You're in great shape, man.

As soon as you logged in now, I'm like, Holy shit. You look good. You look lean. You look healthy. You're looking slick. It looks like life's treating you well.

Contra to the rumors, I'm I got 265.

What's going on with you and Chael Sonnen?

Chael is just, man, I'm bored. I got nothing to do. I would love to whip his ass. Plus between me and you, something I always respected about you. We both have the same stance. And it's like, if you're doing steroids and shit, you're a fucking coward. And he did a whole, I know now he finally came out and did, Yeah, I did steroids. What's the big deal? It's like, yeah, you and We're playing of juices. We're doing steroids. But there's a lot of us that never put anything in their bodies because my mentality of just how I grew up, I don't need to take nothing to beat you. Secondly, you're cheating when you're doing that, and it's giving you unfair advantages where you could hurt the other opponent, all types of shit. And just because of that, mainly I'm letting him fight this dude, talking all that shit. He talks bad about my style when I've lost a certain message in this and that. Yeah, these juice monkeys might have beat me, but never in a real fight. And then he started going at Ariel, right? And Ariel is my boy. I get along with Ariel.

I'm like, Why are you picking on the reporter guy? You want somebody to pick on? I'm right here, bro. I don't really like your ass too much. And then he's had 20, 30 minutes videos of me, numerous ones. I just do a podcast And just addressing me. If I was to see him, I'd slap the money out and be like, What's up?

What the fuck is your problem? Shit. What are you driving, Jorge? Looks like a nice ride.

Thank you, my brother. Right now, I'm in the wagon, man. I got a little wagon, G-Wagon, Mercedes-Benz.

I was going to say the G-Wagon.

I love it, man. It's one of my favorite cars. Safe, fast, and it looks fucking different.

I love it. No, they're really sick. So what's going on, Jorge? We keep hearing rumors that the return of game bread is upon us. What is happening?

We always got some boxing matches. You gave me permission to do some boxing matches. So So 100 % is going to happen this year. I'm going to get some boxing matches in with the gloves and have the van up and stuff because I'd fucking wreck my hands. So it's going to be fun, man. Straight boxing.

Nice. So you're still on the contract with the UFC, but they're allowing you to go off and do some boxing. Yes, sir.

Got it. You're still on the contract with the UFC, they're going to let me do some boxing matches, which I got to give thanks to the UFC that they would even do it. It's not often they do that. We were able to come to a nice little term because I told them for MMA and stuff in the amount of attrition that put your body through to get to the fight camp. I started out good, but by the time I get there, the back, the neck, it ain't the same. Boxing is a little bit less wear and tear throughout the camp. A ton of wear and tear the fight the day out, because it's only shots to the head, to the body. So take my hats off to those guys. They're putting it all on the line. But the camp, I don't feel it's as abusive in the body. Correct me if I'm wrong. Then I'm getting kicked in the leg. 100 %. Having to run four miles and getting my neck cranked. And now you got to have a kink on your neck and you're running like this and you got to lift weights, and you got to fall in the rest and you got to do jiu-jitsu.

It's a different grind. And I'm not complaining. I love it. It's my favorite fucking sport in the world. My favorite thing to do in the world is the MMA grind, but it does take more of a toll on your body than I think any other combat sport.

Yeah, without question. Getting ready for a mixed martial arts fight, it's day and night compared to boxing. A bit of road work, some pad work, a bit of sparring, whatever. It doesn't even compare. So what are we talking?

The concept bumping in contact from wrestling You shoot a double leg on me. I hit you in the head with my hip, and now you got a five-a-night, or I tweak your knee out right in the wrestling practice. Just wrestling is like 60 % of my injuries would come from just wrestling hard.

All wrestling, all of my serious injuries, my neck, my back, my hips, the fucking cauliflower days. Where did we start? Do you know what I mean?

Ribs getting popped. I don't know. For me, even taking guys down, sometimes I've hurt my ribs. So MMA is a different grind, man.

So what are we talking? Are we talking some proper boxing or some influence and stuff? If you know what I'm saying. If you know what I'm saying about the difference.

I definitely would like to get my hands on some influencers eventually, but I want to start off with some real fighters, some MMA guys. And going to boxing, start getting my feet wet there and then see how that goes. I always give props in Ghana, man. The first fight, you get the greatest heavyweight of the last 50 years. That is the craziest shit ever. I want to get my feet wet, get a couple of MMA guys that are boxing and things like that, and go from there.

100 %. I'm glad you mentioned that, obviously, in Gano this weekend, going up against Anthony Joshua. Well, in fact, tomorrow, I can't wait for that. I'm very excited. And I've got to feel it. I'm telling you, I've got to feel that Nganu is going to go out there and maybe pull it off, maybe get the knockout, because there's a new confidence to him now. Imagine being a boxer, sorry, Nganu, you go over to the boxing world, you You don't know if you can take these shots, you don't know if you can hurt these guys or given the size of him, go the distance. Now he knows he can. Now he knows he can hurt Tyson Furie. And did you see that little clip at the press conference yesterday where he was talking shit to Tyson? Your only chance is in the boxing ring with the boxing rules.

When you step off or that ring, you better stay five meters away before stuck your leg, because if I lose it, you're going to have a really bad time, my friend. So respect the fact that boxing is protecting you all and the rules of boxing is protecting us because without that, you are nothing in front of me.

He's right.

I'm a huge Tyson fan. I love Tyson, what he stands for, his style and how he fights. He's one of my favorite boxers of the last 10, 15, 20 years, but he has no chance against N'Gano in a real fight, man. That puncher's chance goes out the window when you got somebody that could grapple and strike. N'gano would just take him down, fight over, or start just kicking him in the leg like he's never felt in his life. Me and you got a lifetime of that conditioning. If you haven't been kicked to the leg like that and have been conditioned for it, it's only going to take about one to two in your first folder.

No, 100 %. So this weekend, your boy Dustin Poey is back in action, Benmois Anthony. Have you been around Dustin much for this one?

I've been in Vegas a lot training, just in boxing camps and just getting in the boxing groove and just getting myself around as many boxing camps as I can and just to decide on what I'm going to do exactly and start getting after. So I didn't get to help Dustin at all for his camp. I sure wish I could have. Shout out to Dustin. My boys helped me in almost all of my fights and vice versa. I always try to help him in every fight that I've been around for. But I'm confident he's going to get the job done. I talk to Mike Brown almost every day, Johnny Ebb and all the guys from back home, and they say, Man, Dustin's looking amazing. I mean, the picture's short. He looks in the best shape of his life right now. Yeah.

Do you know you should try and box? Who? Darren Till.

Oh, I would love to. The Till is an animal. Yeah, I would love to box Darren. In England, too. Let's go right back over there.

You guys got a stunning knockout. Almost It's unbelievable. So there's a bit... Well, there's not a bit of history. There's a lot of history. Darryl is still a big name. A rematch in boxing, that would sell big.

I would love the fight, Darren Till, man. And I know he's just struggled a lot to get to 170. So it be better for him We do it at a higher weight class. He had more energy. It doesn't have to cut as much. And let's go to war, man. Let's do it in England. And we'll do it in Manchester City, man. That's where he's from, right?

No, he's from Liverpool. Just down the street.

Just down the street. We're going Where the fuck is Liverpool? It is, man. Let's go.

Let's go. Okay. Masvidal versus Till 2 in Liverpool. Come on. Hey, who doesn't want to see that? So what else you've been doing, Jorge? You've been getting into Scraps with Chels on and online. You're getting ready I'm not getting a box in.

You haven't been getting fat. In between, freaking training myself in a promotion, maybe I'll send a tweet to this idiot or something because I'm bored. And maybe he'll want to box. I'll give him the biggest bag he's ever got in the stand across me and throw him a box. Maybe once you do that. And I could do something like, okay, I'll put it on paper. I can't use the right-hand chip. I can't use the right-hand. I just use the left hand. I just use the right-hand for block. Every time I throw the right-hand, it's like a $10,000, $20,000 find or something. We could put that on paper because that guy's such a bum.

What about the wrestling side of things, Jorge? He's going to wrestle for you. You know that he ain't going to stand.

What's the good thing? No, but it's straight boxing, so you can't really... You could try to clinch. Boxing clinches. The good thing about the boxing match with Chael is that there's no knees allowed, right? Because we all know that guy's a fucking major crutch. For the first thing we're doing, the MMA five feet. The only guy to break Ben Asken's record with is probably Chael's face because that guy's for sure going on a crotch.

How long is it since you retired now, Jorge? It's not that long. What is it? Like a year or so?

Two years? In April, it'll be about a year.

Right. Jesus. That flew by. What have you been doing?

Promoting. Promoting, promoting, promoting, promoting, promoting, We're on a spectacular fashion knockout in the second round. We had Alex Nicholson versus Chase Sherman, which ended up in brutal fashion to a crazy knockout by Chase Sherman. The whole card was finishes, we went for one decision. It was an amazing, great night. And that's where my heart and passion is, just promoting these events, promoting the next wave of guys that want to kill it, and then training myself and keeping myself ready for when the fight happens. I don't know when the fight will be. I don't know if it'll be later towards the year, if it'll be now, but I'm definitely going to cause some heat by when this fight gets announced.

And that's a bare-knuckle MMA, right?

My lead, yes. Bearknuckle MMA..

I've got to check it out. When's the next event? You got anything planned?

We're lining up the killers right now. We got a couple of visas to deal with this and that, and that's what's not letting us determine us the next day. But we're either going end of April, early May will be our next show for a fat.

Okay.

It's pretty good. We streamed Live on Kick, and that's our official streaming partner. So it'll always be Live on Kick and for free. Free. Free as can be for everybody. No pay one, no security card, need of nothing. And then after that, we put it in YouTube, like a day later, we're already over like 400,000 views for the whole event. So we're doing good. We're moving a lot of traction. And we want to keep bringing in the best possible free agents that I could get in, the meanest guys in the world, they keep coming on for the promotion and fighting. And every fight that we have, it's like a ton of fighters reach out, and they want to get in the promotion for two things. We're trying to pay well, and we're giving as much exposure to these guys as possible. And the word's getting out. So we got a lot of guys that I never would have thought wanted to fight bare-knuckle hitting me up, talking about, Hey, I got to be in the next one. So the talent pool is getting only deeper and deeper every show, man.

Amazing. And good luck with that. I can't let you get out of here without asking you about UFC 299 this weekend. Miami, you are the King of Miami. What are we saying? Chido Vera, Sugar Sean, or Mali, thoughts on that fight?

First of all, Sugar Sean is just straight talent, bro. Start and entertain. Very awkward guy to fight at 135 his length, the way he fights, the way he in and out. I give this guy so much props. But I'm right on my board, Tito, man. I've known Tito since his early UFC fights. I love this guy. I'm going to be with a thicker thing, and I'm picking my boy. He did it once. I have a feeling he's going to do it again. I think there's certain ranges he has to stay out of. So let's really say he doesn't have to touch because Sean is very good, very gifted. Sniper, one shot, he could end the fight. But Tito's just He's a tough, tough, strong dude, man, with a lot of fire inside him. He's willing to go through hell to get that victory as he's shown it many, many times. And if he does touch him, man, he could definitely hurt him. So I feel like the first couple of rounds might go to Sean, but as it starts to go later and later to the deep waters, I think this guy start breaking down my boy, Chito, and then hopefully he can pull off and finish again.

Last question. You must have saw the news this morning, Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. Sorry to keep banging on about it, everybody watching the show, but it blew my mind this morning. I was like, Come on, get the out of here. What do you think about that?

I heard a lot of things. Is it an exhibition? Is it a fight? And if it is an exhibition, what are we getting in for? So it's very freaking interesting. Crazy. Also the first event on Netflix Live.

So props to those guys for getting that done because that's a major deal.

That's going to be a new avenue now for combat. So props to both of them. And whoever got that deal done, that's massive, right? It's great for them The MMA community. Not the MMA community, combat sports in general. I love it. I just hope that it's a fight because I don't want to see an exhibition match or two guys like, hugging it out. I don't want to see two guys going for it. I don't want to see Jake trying to put Tyson on. I don't want to see Tyson trying to put Jake out. And if it's not that, I'll be a little bit like, Oh, man, this might have hurt. But Jorge- They go out there and that's everything.

What would you say if a promoter came to you and said, I've got a 58-year-old opponent, what would your response be? You'd be like, Bro, give me someone for a moment. Yes, he's a legend, but you're not in the habit of going out and beating up old people.

For me and your fighters, Mike. There you go. That other dude. That other dude ain't You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Me and you fight. I want the meanest guys around my weight class, around my age. Obviously, if you're 10 years older, but if it's Mike's Mike, man, he's been fighting since what, the '80s? You know what I'm saying? It's nuts. But one thing that doesn't go away is power. As a man, your power is like your last thing to leave you. So if Mike does touch him, it's for the game over.

It's game over. Could you imagine?

And Jake doesn't really know how to fight going backwards. So obviously, I'm cheering for Tyson because it's Tyson, but you never know, right? It's not boxing.

Could you imagine? Tyson catches him, flat lines him. That's it. That's the end. That's the end of this little Jake The whole thing. It really is.

How about if it's the other way? Then it's just to start it. Then this month, it's going to be the craziest shit.

But that's beating up a pensioner. That's an elderly abuse. You know what I mean? You can't go. Come on. What's on the undercard? Conor McGregor versus the old man in the pub? Do you know what I mean? You can't do that. Jorge, you're the man. Great to talk to you, brother. Enjoy the event this weekend in Miami. I I'll let you go. I'll talk to you soon.

God bless, brother. You got to come to one of my events, man. When you get some free time, we got to bring you. We'll take care of you, brother.

Please, please, please. Hit me up. I'm there. Take it easy, Jorge.

God bless, man.

Harrington, jump on the show. Jump on the show. Jump on the show. I'm by myself. I'm all lonely. You said recently that Masvidal was all fat.

I was going off that picture. I fell for it like the rub that I am. I'm sorry.

No, don't be silly. Don't be sorry. Because so did I. I was like, oh, God. Brian, maybe in post, you can put in the picture that we're talking about because he did look gigantic, if you don't mind. All right, look, listen, the big fight tomorrow. It's a good week if you're a combat sports fan. I think there's a PFL event going on right now. I saw a couple of clips, some crazy knockouts, some dude with his hands down, a vicious head kick tomorrow, Joshua versus Nganu, and then Saturday, UFC 299. So you've got a lot of content to watch this week, as well as the award-winning We've Never Wonnen an Award, Believe You Me podcast. Joshua. That's not true. We got awards?

Yeah, we got awards.

Adam and Cajal. Adam and Cajal.

I'm just destroying things, but We for sure have awards. This is my YouTube award.

Yes.

Finally got one.

Just breaking things.

Adam Cajal and nick Pete that are on the show sometimes. They are fight disciples, a boxing podcast. They're always winning bloody awards. They're always nominated for this, that, the other. Every time I'm like, Jesus, come on, come on. Mma awards.

I'll start scouring these tiny little websites and I'll start nominating us. You'll have hardware galore behind you. If that's the route you want me to take it to produce your show, I'm down to do that.

You just get the notes together, Harrington, and just have your microphone working. I see today you're going old school, you're holding it in your hand. I've got the segue of the Year Trophy, okay? That's all I need. That's all I need. Anthony Joshua, Francis Nganu. I loved that clip. I had a full day of work yesterday. I didn't get in till almost 10:00 at night. I'm sitting in the back of the car. I'm driving back from LA. I had a driver. Sounds very posh and fancy. It wasn't. But I'm in the back of the car, so I'm looking at Twitter, and I see that clip that I was talking about before where he's like, Listen, I'll beat you every day of the week, twice on Sundays, and all the rest of it. And then I saw Eddie Hearn saying, Apparently, there was a big interaction before that where Tyson Fuhre He went up, got in his face. He was speaking to Mike Borne from MMA Junkie. Apparently, Tyson went and got in his face. He said, You think I'm scared of you? You think I'm a coward? And stuff like that. Apparently, went on for two, three minutes.

I'm amazed there's not footage of that circulating because every dickhead pulls the phone out these days. He's like, Come on, give the guys a bit of privacy. But what I see from N'Garnu, I like. I like the way he put Tyson Few in his place. As Jorge said, listen, I'm a He's a fan of Tyson Fury. I think he's very charismatic. He's an incredible boxer. Maybe he didn't apply himself. He says that he did against N'Garnu. Call it whatever you will. But the way he shut him down and that confidence and that swagger that he has now, I think it's going to be a problem for Joshua. And even Eddie Hearn in that interview that I spoke about there, he was talking about it, how it's good for Anthony Joshua because N'Garnu is distracted. He said, There's been a couple of times this week where That's where Tyson caused his heart rate to go up, and now he's thinking about Tyson Furie, and he's not thinking about Anthony Joshua. So the fact that they're looking that deep into it and thinking that that's a positive distraction for them shows that they understand the threat level that Francis Ngaru brings.

How can you not? Look at the size of the man. Look at what he did to Tyson. Look at the punch power that he has. What are your thoughts on this fight, Harrington?

It's nuts to me that Anthony Joshua is one fight away from a title, from becoming a three-time champion, possibly. And the only thing standing in his way is a guy who's an 0-1 professional boxer. And we're sitting here being like, I don't know, man. It's so close. It's so close. You know what I mean? How crazy is that?

You think Anthony Joshua hits him harder than this? You remember when Tyson Furia hit him with this giant overhand elbow and he didn't even flinch Yeah.

You know what? It's funny because Tyson even spoke about that this week. He said, Listen, I hit N'Garney with some solid punches. And he said, The cheeky bastard. He said, I even hit him with an elbow, and he didn't flinch. You know what I mean? It's a fair play to Tyson for that laughing at himself. I'm going to call it right now. I think we have a big upset on our hands. I think Francis N'Garne was going to go out there and beat him. Look at the facts. It was his first ever boxing fight, his first ever fight, going up against one of the best boxers of his generation in Anthony Joshua, a man that won the Olympics, a man with an extensive amateur career, a man that has had one of the best professional careers, as I say, of his generation. There's no way that N'Garnu is Isn't an improved version. It's now his second fight. You learn and you get better as you progress. I don't want to repeat the points I've made in the past, but he will have had all those questions answered. Can he hurt him? Can he go the distance?

Can he take those shots? But the answer to all of them is yes. And now he's coming into this one. He's clapping back at Tyson Furia. He's talking a little bit of shit. He's got the swaggerer. I think Anthony Joshua is going to hit the canvas on Saturday night Friday. I really do.

Yeah, I don't think you're wrong about that at all, right? He seemed a stranger in a strange land when he went out to fight Tyson Furia. Nobody knew how he was going to look in a boxing ring. He 100% looks like he belongs You saw that shuffle after he knocked down Tyson Fury. I don't know, man. It is tough because he does feel very confident, very together. Joshua is 100% taking this seriously, and I still think he's able to land those power punches.

Yeah, look, listen, I'm not disrespecting Anthony Joshua. He's an incredible guy. He's the better boxer, technically. He probably can hit just as hard, let's be honest. He's probably not far off. He's splitting heads for sure. Anthony Joshua can definitely crack. He's got the experience and all that. I just believe in this madness that is going to happen, right? I mean, what a story this is going to be, because if Nganu does this, He's going to have a close one with Tyson Furie. He's going to beat Joshua in his second fight. Then he's going to fight either Tyson Furie and Usik in his third fight. And if he wins that, then that's it. The competition is over. He is the best heavyweight boxer of this generation in three fights. In three fights, he's beating all the top guys. I mean, that would be insane. He's yet to fight and beat Joshua or Furie or Usyk. But just as a romantic, you know what I mean? What a story. We're having fucking Hollywood movies made about this guy for sure.

I did want to ask you about that heading into this second fight. Do you think there's a way that boxing, being the way boxing is, lets Francis and Ganu win this fight if it goes to the judge's scorecards?

Well, you're leaning into the Crooked boxing system there.

I'm not necessarily leaning into Crooked. I think it. I think that Francis Nganu did enough. Watching it as an MMA fan who judges fights based on damage and whatever, I thought Francis Nganu did enough to beat Tyson Fury. But under the strict rules of boxing, I guess if Tyson Fury ran away and threw his jab for the last two rounds, You could see how he could tweak out a split decision. Do you think they're going to just naturally favor Joshua and find any reason they can to give it to him?

I don't know. That comes down to the judges, and that's a personal question for them. I did think that when that fight first happened, that Tyson, Furi, won the fight, okay? And I was rooting for Nganu. But I think when you add up the numbers for every score, every round, Furi had more rounds. I think he did. I think he did. I'd have to watch it Again, I couldn't remember exactly, but I do remember that was my thought at the time. I mean, who knows? You never know what's going to happen. But yeah, I just think that given the fact, the way Joshua said as well to Furi, this was a classic line. He said, I wiped the ring with your ass. I wiped the ring with your ass because he made him slide across the canvas, and then he did the little dance and stuff. He's going to come into this one way more confident. He's going to be careful that he paces himself, though. This is 12 rounds. It's not 10 rounds, so there's a difference there. And if he comes in and he's swinging with more confidence and he's less conservative with his energy because he has...

Confidence can be great, but it can also make you not pace yourself. Just like Dean Thomas said about the three rounds to the five rounds for Benmois, Sandrine, and Dustin Poeya. That's a great point. And when I was joking, when I said Poeya is a sly old dog, but that is an interesting fact that I didn't know that he requested it over five rounds because that tips the balance in his favor. That's a veteran move right there. So Joshua, he's got the experience in going those rounds with big fights, with big pressure. I don't know. It's based on a hunch. I mean, all signs say, if you're a smart man, you pick Anthony Joshua. But I just think Nganu might just do it.

Yeah, there's a thing about Nganu, and it just led me to think the fact he doesn't want him to go to the judges. I feel like with Tyson Fury, he hurt him and didn't necessarily pounce right there. He's like, I've done enough to- Which makes martial arts, bro.

You can't dive on the guy.

I understand that, but he wasn't rushing his punches. He wasn't immediately trying to set up combines to land that crushing blow when he had Tyson Fury on the proverbial ropes as well as the actual ones, I think with Joshua, if he hurts him, he's looking for the kill immediately. He's not letting Joshua off the hook.

It's a brilliant fight, by the way. If you see this before tomorrow, before the fight happens, I'm doing a live stream on my YouTube channel, so make sure you tune in. What is your official pick? I'm not asking you. What? You're not asking me? Don't think I'm not asking you. No, I said, Don't think I'm not asking.

I'm going to take Francis Nganu by seventh round knockout.

Brian McKay, B McKay is right on Twitter and Instagram.

Thanks. I'm going to be slightly less specific than Harrington, but I do think that Francis is going to take it. He has some weird confidence mojo in the presser. I don't think Joshua doesn't even look that confident in these pressers either.

I'm just trying to find the Wikipedia page for the event because we got Joseph Parker versus Jay Li Jean as the co-main event as well. They don't even call it a co-main event in boxing, but it's a good fight card. It's great. And that's that. Today's episode is sponsored by Shopify, which is revolutionizing the online marketplace, because in the past, having a website, having an e-commerce functionality on that This website was time consuming. It was complicated. It was expensive. Well, that's all a thing of the past, because now with Shopify, listen, you can sign up for $1 per month at Shopify. Com/believe. Okay, $1 a month to give it a try. Instantly, you'll be able to accept every major payment method. It will cover every sales channel. You can sell on all the social media forms like TikTok, Facebook, Instagram. It It's packed with all the tools you need to ignite your growth. It gives you complete control over your business and your brand without having to learn any new skills in design or code. And by the way, there's a 24/7 customer service hotline available and an extensive business course library. Shopify is there to support you every single step of the way.

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Probably the biggest news yesterday, there was a sentencing for involuntary manslaughter from somebody on the Rust set. It was not Alec Baldwin. It was the armorer for the shoot. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, as I said, she was charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of the cinematographer on the film.

Yeah, and that's probably correct, right? Involuntary manslaughter, the armorer is responsible. And last time we spoke about this, Brian got a little amped up, if you recall. He did. He was like, You're wrong, Michael. You can't point a gun at somebody and pull the trigger without paying the penalty.

It's like, Bro-I do stand by that.

It's on a movie set.

I understand that.

He used to point guns at people all the time, right? On a movie set. It's not supposed to be a real gun, or if it is, it's not supposed to have a real bullet inside it. And when you pull it and a bullet comes out, and sadly, somebody lost their life. So it's not a laughing matter. But what I'm saying is that's not supposed to happen.

Of course, it's not supposed to happen.The.

Armorer is supposed to ensure that that doesn't.

Alec Baldwin wasn't supposed to have the gun in his hand if they weren't shooting. That's like SAG rules. The armor has to take the weapons and put them away and use dummy weapons on the rehearsal shoots. They have all these prop things that they're supposed to be using, and you only use the actual... Because there's no fake guns. They just use not live ammunition. But so they use-There is replicas. Yeah, but they don't really... Anyway, you're not supposed to have that gun. You're not supposed to be pointing it at people. The armorer is supposed to hand you the gun and go clear and show it to you. Yeah, I know. And because that didn't happen, but you can't take the responsibility off the person who actually pulled the trigger because I disagree.

Yeah, I know. And we did this last time. We're not going around in circles. You know what I mean? There's nothing personal here. If I'm on set and an armorer comes up to me and goes, because you're right, that's exactly the process. What happens? They come over, they make a big song and dance about it because it's not a laughing matter. It's not a joke. And I think last time we got into the whole story with Cyril Garn, when I did that movie with him last year. And he's gone,. It's hilarious, man. They look, they say, Look, it's empty. Here you go. There's the gun. It's got blanks in it. And you I pulled the trigger and a real bullet comes out. I'm telling you what, I am protesting hard. I'm like, You just said it was fine. I pulled the trigger and somebody's dead. That's not my fault. That on the armorer. Now.

I have very limited experience on sets, but I was in a scene where somebody had a gun to my head in the scene, and the armorer came over and had me personally check the gun and the other actor that was checking the that was holding the gun, we both personally checked the gun, looked at the ammunition, saw that it was marked. There was a whole thing before it was handed to anybody. So that's what I'm saying. That's on me. You know You know what I mean?

It's on me. No, it's not. If your brains got blown out.

It's on me, too. Bro, no. You can't put yourself in a situation to be shot in the face without taking a little bit of responsibility.

Yes, you can because you're on a fucking movie set. You're not signing up to die. This is make believe, okay? Sometimes they use words which are very controversial these days. That's just the actor. Sometimes a guy, Brother, I might talk like this. I'm not Polish, okay? In fact, I am Polish.

You can go I was like, You've been lying to us.

You haven't been lying to us. I'm a Polish town, I'm a Polish town, I'm a Polish town, I'm a Polish town, I've been this bitch. But by all accounts, what there was, and this is where Ali Baldwin still got some trouble, is because apparently the production schedule was ridiculous. They were overworked, and things weren't being monitored quite as closely. But that isn't the biggest story, Harrington. We did touch on that. We did say we were going to mention that, but we didn't want to get into that. Oh, Hollywood bisping going off with his experiences on set. No. What is the biggest story? I don't know. Tell us about this California Highway Police Arrested Officer. This is ridiculous.

Dude, this is absolutely insane. Some firefighters pulled up to a scene of an accident that was on the highway. When the fire truck parked, apparently, he was over the center line divider to the other side of the highway while attending to the patient on the ground here. The police were not having it and decided to arrest someone while he was trying to save another man's life.

This is insane. Look at this. Chula Vista firefighter Jacob Bregoua calls for his supervisor.

Only CBS News 8 has this heated exchange between the When a firefighter and an unnamed CHP officer about the safety of where the fire truck is parked during a rollover accident.

I'm not going to lie, you have to be. I'm not going to lie, you guys have to treat us like this. We're only trying to help people.

We have to.

We have to clear the road and you said no, and you'll be arrested.

That's what you're doing. Chb has guidelines to safely clear the road. But you see, it's up for debate who was in the wrong legally.

Firefighters say they park at an angle to protect emergency crews, patients, and drivers.

We're in the middle of patient care with patients.

This is just ridiculous. It really is. So we get the idea. So there's been a nasty accident. The fireman is in the process of trying to save somebody's life. They've parked on an angle so that is very clearly evident to drivers coming on. So the police have seen and said, Listen, it looks like you might be a couple of millimeters over a line or a little too obstrusive for whatever. This is a high adrenaline situation. They're trying to save somebody's life. I understand that rules and protocols are put in place for a reason, and they need to be respected. But that police officer there is an absolute moron. What on earth are you doing? He arrests him whilst he's trying to save somebody's life. The man's doing a service to the public. He's not out there doing this by choice. He's trying to help somebody. Do we know any details of what happened after that? Because I would assume that that police officer, whilst technically might have been within his powers to do so, I wouldn't imagine that he's getting promoted anytime soon.

No charges filed against the firefighter. That's the update that I have at the moment on that.

Yeah, they put They put them in the back of the car, but eventually cut them loose. I think cooler heads prevail.

This is like a wild overreach and abuse of power. It's the main problem with law enforcement these days. It's just people are bullies when they put on a badge, and they just think you have to do what they say.

Well, you're right. But the problem is that being a police officer, certainly in this country as well, is a very, very tough job because a lot of people have guns, so they're on a heightened sense of alert because a lot of people have firearms on them. But in this situation, that doesn't apply whatsoever. And you're right, it's like a little Napoleon syndrome. You know what I mean? He's got the power to do it, so he's going to finally do it. They're trying to help somebody out, and this doesn't help the reputation of the police when things like this happen. I mean, that cop that did that should be absolutely, utterly ashamed of himself more than Jake Paul.

I mean, that's- No, this is worse than Jake Paul.

It is.

But I were to talk to John as well. Yeah.

Sure. But it's like, I don't know, man. If you're trying to stop maybe another accident from happening across the way, you could make an argument that the cop might be trying to do the right thing. Jake Paul? Not doing the right thing at all. He's hurting an old man.

There's a lot of flashing lights. There's a fire truck. There's multiple police cars.

You've got the news report on the scene.

Okay? There's lights all over the place. Don't tell me people are oblivious going out on the freeway and just flying down. There's a, Oh, shit. I almost hit a fire truck, Cleedis. You know what I mean? That's not happening. This is a made-up scenario. This is a complete overreach of power. And that cop needs to go and give his head a wobble.

Yeah, whatever happened to protect and serve, dude, that's what cops are supposed to be doing. You are not supposed to be a hall monitor for everybody else's life. That's absolutely insane. The guy's trying to save a guy's life. There's a neck brace on him. Let him do his job.

You know But I tell you what, cops out here compared to the UK are different. We might have spoke about this before. Out here, cops, generally, I respect all law enforcement. You know what I mean? They're doing a tough job and they're supposed to be protecting and serving. They're not always doing that. Some of them are dicks, but it's just like humans in general. Some are cool, some are dicks, some are idiots, some are foolish. But compared to the cops in small town England, the cops out here don't mess around. The cops in England, you could have a field day with. You We just fought with them because they haven't got a weapon. They're just kids. They're fresh out of college. They've got the stupid hat on and a trungeon at the most. We would have a good laugh with them. My dad was an asshole with the cops. He really was. I'm sorry to walk police officers in England. If you ever came across my dad, you've earned your day's work that day. But the cops are here, they're definitely a bit more badass.

That actually makes me think, because in America, if you for a cop's gun, they have a word for that. You have a death wish. You know what I mean? In England, though, could you grab the little Billy Club off their belt and try to mess with them?

The Trungeon, Harrington, given the respect that it the respect that it deserves. You don't mess with another police officer's Trungeon. Yeah, dude.

By the way- Don't make fun of their little sticks.

I've got one of those sticks.

I do as well.

I'll show it to you.

Yeah, but just roast Just a cop. Although you do see some crazy shit. I watch a video today on Twitter where there's this little dumpy cop just tackled a dude and accused him of throwing a knife over a fence two blocks away. And I was just like, this is America-level policing.

What's this, Brian? What did I miss?

I just saw a video earlier today of a little fat cop. Oh, that's cool. It's like a...

This is because-Ceremonial. So we collect antiques in this house. We've been doing a lot of that recently. I bought this in New York after I found Alan Belcher in New Jersey. We stuck around New York for a few days. This is a police trungeon from one of King Henry's guards, from I don't know how old it is. You can't really see, but yeah, very cool. Can you crack someone around the head with that?

I was about to ask, you still think you crack somebody's head with that thing?

Oh, 100 %. I wouldn't want to mess up the pain job.

Yeah, it might be a little dry.

It's a little dry. It's very, very heavy, though. It's very heavy. I'm going to pull out the trungeon. And by the way, you never try and grab a cop's trungeon. That's sexual assault. You leave his trungeon out of it. Anyway, let's talk about something proper, which is UFC 299. Chido Vera. Algermane Sterling. Sugar, show normal. It's the CTE. He's kicking in again.

Should He didn't make jokes like that, Mike.

Last night, Algermane Sterling did call me, actually, a few times. I'm not going to get into it, but because I spoke about... Because he said that Chido had a bad camp, so I did a little video on it, and we spoke about it on here, and he was like... Aljimane is such a stand-up guy. He was like, Dude, I wasn't trying to talk shit. I was like, No, bro, don't be silly. Don't be silly. He was not taken that way at all. So shout out to Aljimane. Both guys are very confident coming into this one. You must have saw that clip yesterday. O'malley is like, You ready to get knocked out? Of course. Last time out, he did knock out Aljimane Sterling with one of the best right hands. He's bringing him with confidence. He has had a lot of TKOs. He went to a decision against Pyotille Yam, But prior to that, Chris Matino and Thomas Almeida and people had that. He was finishing in the later rounds of the fight. My prediction, I think O'Malley is going to get off to a good start. He did in the first fight. He's got better since then.

He's tall, he's long, he's quick, he's got beautiful boxing, he's got a good footwork. She does traditionally a slow starter, as we know. Perillo told me that's been a big, big emphasis of the camp. He can't let him get ahead on the scorecard That's too much too soon. I think he's going to eventually, though, find the rhythm, find the range, start having success. And it wouldn't surprise me if O'Malley gets knocked out himself. It's a fantastic fight, though, because we can slice it two ways. If you're watching this, you probably go, Well, you're just Cheeto's boy. You're friends with him. You got the same coach. Yeah? Yeah? Granted. And I'm a big fan of Sugar Sean O'Malley as well. And he comes on the show. He's a friend of the show, so I don't want to talk shit. There's no shit being spoke. I genuinely believe, though, in the later rounds, when Cheeto gets going, he gets more and more dangerous. And with this being a five-round fight, he's got more opportunity to find the mark.

Yeah, I remember back in 2019, 2020, you were calling it, you were one of the first ones on the scene. Cheeto Vera is title material, right? And now it's material. That title shot is there. So it would be crazy for you to switch up on them and change your pick now. It's just Sean happens to be the guy who's in that spot that whoever, when Chido got to this point, I think was going to take the title from. 30 fights, I think it is in the UFC. Never been knocked down, never been knocked out.

Never been knocked down.

Never been knocked down. Yeah. Never been finished.

Did we talk about this with Anthony? Because I don't want to repeat the show, but he never has a mark on his face. When he fought Rob Font, Rob Font is a great striker. You can make some similarities to Sugar Sean or Mally. Maybe not quite as busy as Sean, but he uses that job, fast hands. In fact, shit, that's a really good comparison. I'm dropping that one in a YouTube video later. Come on, baby boy. Let's go. Shout out, Louis Jay Gomez. How tall is Sugar Sean O'Malley? Sugar Sean O'Malley is 5'11. How tall is Rob Font? Probably, I'm going to lie, say 5'11. There's similarities. This fight could go down the same way. How tall is Rob Font? Don't say 5'9.

No, it's 5'5, 10.5..

Says Rob Font is 5'8.

Sure.

Does it really? Yeah, it does. To all of us, Harrington, you little prick.

Mike, my job I'm not going to make you look good. I'm sorry.

Well, we'll do better because you're not doing a very good job so far. Brian, what do you think? I don't think we're going to see too much grappling in this one. I think if somebody gets knocked down, they'll follow them down, of course, just like in the first fight. And I saw a good point the other day. He was, Oh, my God. Do you know what? It was Dean Thomas. And this is a tremendous point that he made, and I'm stealing it and using it as my own. Cheeto kicked the leg. The calf went numb, whatever you want to call it, the peroneal nerve. He hits the canvas. Ceto followed him up and was in his guard. He was in his guard, okay? So the leg at that point didn't really matter. It was a weak guard and a weak defensive guard from Sean O'Malley that allowed Chido to land that vicious elbow. Because... Sorry, I'm going to get on my high horse here. When you're on your back, there's a way that you use your forearms to defend and block. Do you know For ground and pound. And it's simple. I say it's simple.

I've done it for so long, and we used to do so much ground and pound in the gym where I used to train, that I developed a system. But if you're on your back and the person is on top, if you get to put your hands on their shoulders, like here, and then you just follow their arms around. Wherever their arms go, you follow it with your fore arms. It's hard for them then to get any momentum to throw a shot because your fore arms are constantly You're blocking them. You know what I'm saying? And then while you're doing that, you're using your legs to do something different. That's why you got to be smart. You're telling your brain, telling your legs to do one thing. Your arms are flowing a few shapes on the dance floor. Then you flip into a little arm bar. You're getting back to your feet. You're standing up, you're throwing flying knees. It's a beautiful sport. I miss it, man. What are we doing this again? What are we doing this? Let's go. What do you think?

This is a fight I'm definitely not putting any money on. It could go either way to me. It's either Sean's going to catch him in the first two rounds, maybe, or Chido is just going to work them the whole five. I think that's how it's going to go. But once again, both friends of the show, I'm not betting on this one.

What did you say? I think Chido is inevitable, right? That's fair. Chido is going to come at him similar to, and I don't want to put this on Chido because obviously, his defense is significantly better. But he's got the heart of a guy like Chris Matinho. O'malley, who was still walking down O'Malley for that entire fight, and it took O'Malley quite some time to get him out of there. If you give Chido those openings he was giving Chris Mutino, Chido is going to hit you to the body. He's going to hurt you. He's going to touch up your legs, so your movement is going to get cut down. He's going to be better at cutting angles. I think that that's somebody who was not at the same skill level as Sean O'Malley and was able to get pretty far into a third round with him. Cheeto is that elite on level and can just follow him and chase him. I don't see how Sean survives five rounds against Cheeto.

This is my new threatening behavior when you say something silly.

What did I say silly?

Don't you ever dare, and this is no disrespect, to Chris Matinho. You can't compare Chris Matino and Chido Vera. Say, If Chris Matino can do that, so can Sean O'Malley. Well, of course. Listen, Chris Matino was great. He stepped up short notice, almost took him to the distance, the decision. But you're putting them in the same cart. Don't do that. I'm just enjoying swinging this club around, okay?

I feel like he's just scolding you for no reason.

I am. Don't get it so offended. I'm just like, I like doing this. I was proud of that. I tell you what, there's a lot of Ecuadorian support. If I was to say Ecuador, do you know what that would be a reference to?

No.

Okay, never mind. It was a dance track in the '90s by Sash called Ecuador. Ecuador. We used to shout it on the dance floor when we were kids, but I was drunk back then. Don't drink these days, as you know. I got Chido in that one. Of course, go on. I was going to move on.

I'm sorry. No, you did it. I had a fun fact for you for the reporter thing you were saying. I think it's 120 media people are credentialed for UFC 299, and 30 of them are from the country of Ecuador. So literally 25% of all media reporters, everything is there for Cheeto. I think come Media Day in Wayne, that place is going to be a mad house for Cheto.

Yeah, well, I think the press conference should be going down today, so that'll be good. Probably happening in a couple of hours. So best of look to both men Benoît Saint-Denis, five rounds against Dustin Poey, smart veteran move from Dustin Poey. I think Benoît Saint-Denis does it. I really do. And by the way, that's not me disrespecting expecting or underestimating Dustin Poey. Dustin Poey is incredible. He really is. He's 35 years old. We know about the 35-year-old curse. Benoît Saint-Denis is 28. He's younger. He's on a 5, He fight Wind Street. Yes, granted, he has not fought anything near the competition than Dustin Poey has. And Dustin asking for this at five rounds shows that he's still thinking Championship. He thinks a good win over this, one more win, and he fights for the title. So I don't think he's running out of fuel or motivation or anything like that. It's a phenomenal fight. Okay, maybe I'm second guessing it. I'll tell you what, though, it wouldn't surprise me if Ben was on then he pulls it off. But it also wouldn't surprise me if Dustin Poey goes out there and puts on an absolute master class and shows the world and reminds everybody that he's still Championship material.

And don't you feel that you dare forget about me in this division?

So I've been waiting to tell this story for months now. When you and I were at MSG, we were, I think, three seats down from Dustin Poire. I watched him like a Hawk when Benoît-Saintz and he came out. Man did not take his eyes off of him. He knew heading into this fight, there was a decent chance he was up next. Dustin Poire was sizing him up the entire time. He really thought long and hard about taking this fight with these stakes, making it a five-rounder. Dude, Benoît-Saintz Saint-Denis is coming into Dustin Poire's world. I believe that 100%. This is too much too soon for Benoît Saint-Denis, and I do think Dustin Poire is going to be his reckoning.

I understand the points that you make I also do concur. You were staring at Dustin Poirier. It got weird. Brian, I was embarrassed. I'm like, Can you stop?

He often embarrasses people in public.

I was like, Stop it, bro. Stop just... That's Justin Poey.

Stop drilling my coworkers.

I was like, Live your job. You're drooling all over the place. Stop it. Listen, you can never underestimate Dustin Poey. He's got beautiful hands. He's got great skills all around. So has Sandrine. I mean, that knockout of a Matt Frivola, he got taken down quite quickly, used the underhug to get back to his feet. At the moment, he got up, boom, left, high kick.

You think if Dustin gets him down like that. He gets up as easy as he did.

Not like he did against Frivola. No way. Poey is a better version than Matt Favola. That's no disrespect to the steamroller. It's just a good fight. It's just such a good fight. You can dissect it many different ways. The reality is none of us fucking know. None of us know.

It's a coin flip.

This is one of those where it's a massive game-changing opportunity for Benoît Saint-Denis. Fresh blood, new blood. And then for Dustin Poirier, this is like, See? Told you, bitches. I'm not going nowhere. We all get caught. Justin Gage, you caught me with a head kick. Remember, I beat him earlier. I beat him a few years ago in a sensational fight. But when you look at some of the fights that Dustin had, let's have a look right here. I'm not talking about one fight. I'm talking about the fight against Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler is brilliant. I'm not going to sit here and talk shit about Michael Chandler. But Michael Chandler isn't the type of guy that's going to come out and necessarily have the best game plan because the Michael Chandler can wrestle like a maniac, and you never see it. He just went at Dustin Poeya like a psycho, just throwing right hands one after the other. I was like, Oh, shit, he's going to knock him out. Didn't even think about wrestling. What a sick vibe that was. I think Sondini is going to be a bit more strategic. I think he might mix things up.

He's certainly going to have a game plan, but so is Dustin Poirier, and it's going to be sick. Yeah, I'm That's it. And that's the expert analysis. It's going to be sick. Before that, what do we have? Michael Vennen Page versus Kevin Holland. Michael Vennen Page is a knockout artist of the highest degree. He has true one-shot knockout power. And that's the difference between these guys. Kevin Holland's great, and he's so entertaining, and I love what he brings to the table. He's a funny guy. I saw Vennen Page saying that they might have the first podcast mid-fight because they're going to be talking to each other like crazy, which was hilarious. But if you look, of course, we spoke about it. He has had some losses, of course. Lossed to Logan's Story, lost to Douglas Lima, beat Douglas Sleema in a rematch. Derek Anderson, one shot. Ross Shinshal Anzai, one shot. Giovana Melillo, one shot. All the stoppages that he has, most of them, is one shot power, okay? And he's so fast and so precise. I think Kevin Holland is a better grappler, probably. But will Kevin Holland grapple? Will he look to take him down?

I think he might do. I think he will.

I feel like he learned from the Wonderboy fight, right? That fight, he easily could have walked away from there with a win and a pretty high spot in the rankings with a win over. Steven Thompson chose not to wrestle, stood back up and tried striking with him, much to his detriment. I feel like he's learned and he's not going to let that happen again.

Yeah, but hold on. Kevin Holland did, in fact, go for takedowns as the fight progressed, didn't he?

If I'm not mistaken- Against Steven Thompson?

Yeah.

No.

I think he got one at the end.

He tried. To be fair, he broke his hand. You know what I mean? So he couldn't exactly punch. But we all love Kevin Holland. He had a tough one, a close one against Jack DeLa Madalena. Again, Madalena is ridiculous as well, so no shame there. I'm from the UK. I'm going to lean towards MVP. I'm a fan of Kevin Holland as well. I don't have any definitive picks, really. It's like this fight card, these fights are so competitive. It's not like I can look at one and just go, Yeah, that guy is going to win for sure. Gilbert Burns with Madeleina, the grappling is the path to victory there. We'll see if Madeleine has improved his take down defense, because if he hasn't, he's going to get out grappled and he's going to lose that. On the fee, Madeleine is better, but Gilbert Burns is still fine and effective. So that's a close one. Kevin Holland, Michael Page is a close one. Pyodian, Song Yee-Dong. I mean, that's a close one as well.

I mean, literally, my first instinct looking at this card is I like every single underdog. I like Jan. Who are the underdogs? Jan, Burns, MVP, Poirier, and Chido.

Jan, Piotrian Burns, MVP, Poirier, Cheeto. Okay. Are you putting a parlay on?

Yeah, I think it's like 10 bucks to win 850. Why not?

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Tom called for that himself. So, yeah, let's see it.

Mataus Gamrott, Rafael dosanjos. I know that dos Sanjos is still going, right? And taking on Mataus Gamrott, a guy that's one of the top lightweights right now, shout out Hafael dos Sanjos. He's a serious bastard, man. Yeah, all right. He's getting on, getting older. How much longer hope we're going to have him as part of the UFC? But that guy is a serious individual, highly skilled, all well-rounded, but he's just nasty and he's intense.

Unless Gamrott is really trying to bring in this Usman or Kolby style to wrestle RDA, I think RDA can win this fight. I think there is a real path to victory for RDA to win this fight.

Pedro Munoz. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off there. Pedro Munoz, way down early on the prelimbs as well against Kyla Phillips. Iwan Kutalaba, Philip Linz. Good night of fights. And also I got to give a special shout out. The first fight of the night, Joanne Wood, formerly Joanne Colderwood. She's a sweet art, so she is. But you know what? I think this is going be her last fight. She talked about it. She said, I want to have a wee baby. She wants to have a wee baby, and the biological clock might be taken. So regardless of whether she wins or if she loses, this could be the last time. And I just want to say, Joanne, well done. You represented yourself well, and your people are Scotland, and you're great. Shalza Joanne Coldenwood, not there. By all accounts, could be. And I think from what she said, she You strongly, strongly alluded that this will be the last fight of her career. Well done to Joanne Coldenwood. She was a great tiebox. She came to the UFC. She almost had a title fight. She had it in the bag. She was supposed to fight Shevchenko.

She thought, I take one more against Jennifer Meyer. That gamble did not pay off, but she's had some great fights as well. Very, very fun style to watch. So there it is, UFC 299. Going to be a good one. What's on your mind, Harrington? I can see you're perplexed.

No, nothing. I'm not perplexed. I was literally just visualizing the card in my head. That's my thinking face.

That was his regular face.

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All right, so today's first question is from Harrington's biggest fan, Jordan.

Guys, if you had time travel powers, what part of your life would you love to relive? What part would you love to change? And guys, I seriously hope Cheeto wins on the weekend. I bet you a tenner, he wins. I mean, that's as much as I can do because I'm broke anyway. I love you guys.

Well, thank you very much, unfortunately, but if you sell the show, you will know that I've got Cheeto. So you're going to have to go with the flow and get down to the buckies if you want to put some money on someone because I ain't taking that bet, bro, even though it's only for a tenner. Time Trap. Does it mean a period of our life? When can I go back to? I believe so. I do believe when I was champion of the world, that was a good year, man. 2016, I wouldn't mind reliving that one. I did a lot of travel back then. But Rebecca always says if she could go to any period, she would love to go to Victorian, England. I tell her, I say, You don't want to do that.

Yeah, I was about to say, I don't think she really does want to go back to Victoria in England. Everyone stinks. There's no sewage. There's sewage on the floor because there's no pipes.

It was a shithole. If you were like the queen or a lord or a lady, granted, and you had your servants and all the rest of it, you were living a great life.

I promise I promise you, your house is better.

My house now?

Oh, yeah. I promise you, you live better than the queen did in the Victorian age.

No, I know. You know what I mean, my buddy. But she just loves the way everyone was all dressed up. She loves the style. He loves the clothing, the outfits, everything, the houses, the antiques, the furniture, you name it. But I'm like, Babe, no, no. Toilet paper didn't exist. It wasn't a thing. Brian, just look at it. When was toilet paper invented? When did people start wiping their ass? That's what I really want to know. Never mind the analysis, never mind Anthony Joshua, Francis in Garnu. When did actual toilet paper become a thing? What's your guess, Harrington? Harrington is like, People wipe their asses?

You use paper for that? That seems like a massive waste. I'm going to say the invention of actual toilet paper is probably around the same time as the toilet. So I'm going to say, what is that? 1580 something? Sir Harrington invented it?

Okay, Brian, do we have an answer, a definitive one of that?

It seems here in the 1800s, Harrods toilet paper started making its popularity around the world. And in 1857, the first patent for toilet paper was filed. 1857, and that was in New York. So before then, everybody else was just gross and scooped the shells or whatever.

I don't know.

Okay. All right. Silly question. What else do we have, Brian? You're going to have to come back, buddy. In fact, Brian, if you, Harrington, if you could go to one period of history, where would that be?

You can't go back before your kid is born because then you change every decision you made. Your kid is not going to be the same.

What?

You can. Where'd you have kids for 20 years, bro? You want to go back to before they were born. You know what I mean?

All right, fair enough. But for where I'm at right now, I would literally- I'll change a few things.

I'll change a few things on the... What did you call it on Back to the Future? The timeline? What did you call it?

The timeline, yeah. The space-time Continuum?

The space-time continuum. That's the power of love.

I love that. I think I would go back to last March and just buy Bitcoin. I think that's it. That's the move.

You wouldn't go back to 2000 and Before?

Not before my baby was born.

To buy Bitcoin?

I will go back to before I sold all my Bitcoin because I had quite a few. Sold it all.

Well, Our next question is from Jacob.

But not much, by the way. For not much, for next to nothing.

Oh, I'm sure. I mean, some dudes- That's big.

Could you believe they'll give me $100 for this thing?

One dude bought a pizza for like 31 It's like 1,000 Bitcoin, like when it first started.

The other day, Bitcoin was at $68,000. It dropped down to 63. I think it's back up to about $65,000 a coin. Insane. And the same, by the way, because Bitcoin has... It's almost reached its limit.

It's not. There's another halving in April.

Yeah. But still, it's going to run out eventually. It's just going to get more and more valuable. They're saying, Half a million on a million dollars a coin one day.

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Bitcoin was invented by the Federal Reserve to juke everybody's money into it.

That's a good one. But it Was it invented by Sinsho, somebody in Japan?

Satoshi Nakamura, which is a pseudonym for an imaginary person. It's not a real person.

Satoshi Nakamura. And if you look at it, at 4 PM on a Tuesday through a kaleidoscope, you see it. Fbi, United States of America, federal government, clear as day, bro. But it's got to be three o'clock in the afternoon. It's got to be sunny, and it's going to be through a kaleidoscope. Then you see it. I mean, come on.

Only on a leap here.

Yeah, exactly. Only on a leap here. What else we got, bro?

All right, so we got Jacob here asking about where he could spend his Bitcoin. Yo, I'm Jake here from Pennsylvania with another quick question. Not really an MMA question, but spring breaks next week, and I'm trying to plan a little place to go.

I was just wondering if you guys had any recommendations in the United States of a nice chill place to go in March.

Hell, yeah.

Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. All right. Right on, Jake. Good to hear from you. I'm glad he wasn't asking about Bitcoin, but I'm not the best person to ask. You are the Americans. You have lived your entire life here. He's on the East Coast. I'm not too familiar I'm going to go to Atlantic City soon, but-I'm not a savage, Mike.

I vacation in Europe.

Oh, God. Jesus Christ. If you had to advise Jake, where would you go?

College kids, spring break. You're in PA. Okay. The best move, I would say, would be Myrtle Beach.

You're.

What? Myrtle Beach rules. Myrtle Beach has the most mini golf per capita.

What? The most what?

Has the most mini golf per capita. It's got beautiful beaches, great bars. Good night life.

Nobody wants mini golf.

Everyone wants mini golf.

He likes bad things, Mike. I don't know what to say.

Nobody wants mini golf.

All right, drop it in the comments if you're a mini golf fan. Minigolf rules.

No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Even Happy Gilmore didn't like mini golf. Okay? No, the mini golf. Rebecca hates mini golf because I used to take Lucas and the kids when we were younger. She's like, Oh, my God. Just get the thing in. Can we just move on? We've been here for hours now. Okay? Yeah, mini golf sucks. Brian, where would you vacation if you were Jake?

Maybe Colorado. I like Colorado.

You want a nice-He's a college kid.

How do they get to Colorado for spring break?

He's in Pennsylvania. He could just take a long drive.

Okay, these questions are painful. Do we have a semi-decent question? And if you If you do have one, send it into bympod@gmail. Com.

Well, this is Langtree, and he's asking about some of the basic things here. We're going to Let's play this.

Hello to the best MMA crew on the planet. Guys, I have a question for Michael and Anthony. Since you guys are fighters yourselves, I would like you guys to please give us the believers, an insight as to what fighters mean or what analysts mean specifically when they say, Oh, this fighter has the experience advantage. What does that specifically mean? Does that mean that they know how to survive wars, that they know how to pace their breathing? Specifically, if you guys could give us a glimpse of what that means, that would be very interesting for me because honestly, generally, I don't know what that specifically means. Thank you guys for posing the question and keep up the great work. And thank you, Harrington.

That's a good question, right? The reality is, I don't know. I've heard other people say it, so I just say it. I'm like, this might fill 30 seconds of our time. No, it's a key thing. For example, before, Dean Thomas was talking about Dustin having the experience in the five-round fight so you know how to pace yourself because Ben was on and he hasn't. So he might go out there looking for the finish because he's got five finishes in a row. So therefore, he truly believes he can finish everybody. So he might go out over He's got to extend himself, not pace himself, and then get tired in rounds three, four, and five. Poey, being around as long as he has, still believes he can finish people, but knows you can't finish everybody. And of course, knows with five rounds, it's not a sprint. You've got to pace yourself a little bit differently. In terms of when you're more experienced stylistically, you can look at a fight and say, I'm getting out-wrestled here. I've got to mix things up. When you go through experiences, you learn. That's why you can't buy it. You have to earn it.

For example, you get caught in a fight, you have a massive punch, and you think, Okay, let's just throw down. Let's fire back. That fight off flight's instinct kicks in. But then you get hit with another shot and you go to sleep. Well, next time, you might be like, Shit, next time I get caught like that. The smart move is to get on your bike. That's a footwork term for using your footwork to circle a little bit whilst you blow off the cobwebs or shoot in, try and clinch, tie them up in an over and under against the fence. And then you've got 20, 30 seconds whilst you're doing that to, oh, shit, to recover. That's experience. Staying calm when you get dropped or when you get taken down, not panicking. When you're getting back to your feet, you see it all the time with younger fighters. They move back towards the fence and then they turn over like this. They give up the back. The opponent jumps on their back. They get choked out. You've messed up. Okay? Experience is a moment. But that's how you get better because you make mistakes and you go, shit, That is what I did.

So ultimately experience, it comes down to not always making mistakes, but a lot of the time it is making mistakes and learning from them. But going through camps, training camps, the more camps you have, the more experience with every single training The one that you go through, the wake up might have been shit on one. The next one, the wake up went really smooth. So you're like, Well, what did I do different? As you look at that, you identify some key things. That's experience because everybody's body is different. The coaches might say, This works for me, so do it for you. But it doesn't work for you because everybody's body is different. The diet that you use or whatever it is, there's a million different ways. But as you go through your career, you figure things out, you learn, The emotional side. You know what I mean? When I was younger, I used to... I got to find a dark part of the room. I'd sit there, I'd close my eyes, I'd wind myself up. I think about all the sacrifices I've been through, and I think about all the hard chips and try and go out like that.

Well, by the time I was 37 years old, I knew that isn't the mindset at all. You want to be cool, calm, and collected. You want to be jovial. You want to be having some fun in the locker room. You want to be calm. So again, that's experience. And there's not a one size fits all. So that's why a coach can't just hand it down and tell you everything, because what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. I think I did a good job of explaining that.

Yeah, that was incredible.

Do you have anything to add, Harrington?

Yeah, I have so much knowledge on my experience. Absolutely not. What about your experience in hosting comedy nights in in New York.

No, I'm serious. No, but you know what I mean?

Yeah. I mean, it's like anything that you do in your life, the 10,000 hour rule applies, right? By the time you got to that point where you were 37 years old, you would probably put in between all your time in training, all your time fighting, going back to mixed martial arts as a kid, you probably had about 10,000 hours worth of experience by the time you got your hands around that belt. And that's true for anyone, right? They say it takes about 10 years of really busting your ass doing something to hit that level where you can call yourself a master. And you see, that's why I picked Dustin Poirier in that fight, because I think you need to be somebody like a Justin Gechi who's also put in that 10,000 hours to catch someone like Dustin Bourier.

And Anthony Joshua has tons of experience. Francis Zingano has none. Maybe that comes back and bites him in the ass. Maybe the inexperience in the boxing world and the success that he has against Tyson Fuhre means that this time he's going to come out like a bat out of hell. He's going to swing for the fences. He believes he can drop Tyson Fuhre, therefore he can drop Anthony Joshua, a man that has been knocked out before, but maybe he doesn't go his way. And then afterwards, he's like, Shit, hold on. I made a mistake there. So he learned a valuable lesson, which is what they call experience. And then now, in my experience, it's time to end this podcast. We're wrapping up. You know where we're going. You've listened to the show. You know what we're going to go or say or do. That's it. Enjoy the fight. I'll be doing a live the Joshua versus Inganu fight tomorrow. If you want to check that out, we will be back on Monday, of course, with the great Anthony Smith. So be sure to check that out also. Have a good weekend.