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Yeah. We've got Michael Chiesh joining us today, ladies and gentlemen, on the award-winning, the world-leading, the number one podcast on the goddamn planet with no Anthony Smith. Of course, he's fighting Saturday night. I would say we pulled out the big dogs. We went all the way up to Spokane, Washington, joining us from his what looks to be a very, very beautiful log cabin-inspired home, Michael Kieser.

It's good to be here, Mike. Big Mike, big poppy.

What's up? Big poppy. There we go. Are you in the woods?

I live just outside of town, so yeah, I'm definitely surrounded by trees. I'm on five acres. I do live in a log house. I love it out here, especially this time of year when it's Christmas and the trees up and the snow is on the ground. It's great.

No, that's beautiful, man. Five acres. That must be amazing.

It's nice. It's nice having the space.

Definitely. What do you do with five acres?

We.

Have a pool- Tensibly walk around it, you know what I mean? As if you're writing poetry.

Yeah, you can go for nice little long walks. We have a lot of bombfires. It's nice not having a fence for your dogs. Our dogs can just roam freely. Well, our dog, we had two dogs. We have one now. But yeah, it's just nice having space, man. I grew up in the country, so it's for me, I'm just not fit to be in a neighborhood, in a cul-de-sac, in an apartment. I'm just meant to be somewhere with some space.

You're just out there living life. My God. Not all of us can be bloody millionaires living on five goddamn bloody acres. It must be nice. Yeah. And there's this narrative that USC fighters don't get paid. You're living like a rock star.

You're living a dream. I'm one of the few that don't complain, but I don't make as much as the Hall of Famer, the former Middleway champion, Michael Gidding, ultimate fighter champion. I mean, come on, the list goes on and on.

It does go on and on. Tale from The Altergone. Tubids returning next week, by the way. Guys, if you're in London, December 14th, or Manchester on the 16th, you don't want to miss it myself. Tom Aspenal and Paul Krig, joining me on stage. Myticket. Co. Uk. But that's it. That's enough of the plugs. That's enough of the intros. Now we're going to get going. You were on Saturday, Mike. Usc Austin. What an incredible event that was. You were working the pre and post-fight show for ESPM. You were rocking the most Texas shirt I have ever seen. Is it on your Instagram? Because Brian can look it up if.

It is. I think there's a picture of me and Joe Borough in the shirt. The funny thing is, Mike, I got that shirt at the gift shop right by the elevators. I didn't bring that with me. I just was walking by and I was like, sent a picture to Zach. For people that don't know, Zach Candido is the guy that's in charge of the broadcasting part of the USC.

He's a Vice President these days, I believe.

Vice President, yeah. I sent him a picture of it. I was like, What would you think if I wore this? He's like, That would be a flex. I'm like, So is that a yes? Is that a no? And he's like, Just go for it. So one of the give-top and it was a hit.

Because Bryan's probably feverishly searching your Instagram right now. It's the most tax you should at one of those buckles instead of a tie. Yeah, a little.

Balls by there.

The little laces dangling down. Looking good. Who's that that you're with?

That's Joe Burrow, quarterback of the Cincinnati Bangles. And I usually don't chase people down like that, but I have a good friend, Kennedy Nimory, that's a diehard fan. And so I ran up to him and took a little video of like, Hey, Kennedy, look who I'm with. She was absolutely razzed.

We're going to get into that lately because it just came out the most popular words amongst Gen Zs. There's a new word in the dictionary that apparently is taking the world by storm. And it sounds like razzed.

Really? It's not.

But never mind that. Where do we start?

Let's start with U. F. C. Austin. Let's start with the main event.

Where do we start with that event, though? Because the prelims, they were some of the best, I will say, certainly in recent memory, maybe it's a recency bias, the best prelims I can remember. I mean, just from start to finish. I mean, the first fight of the night, Veronica Harding, great performance. But then we got those two slams back to back. Jack all close. I think he was in an armbar, picks him up, slams him on the side of the head, puts him to sleep. That's incredible. Then we get another one straight afterwards. Zach Rees making his debut. Who did he fight? Cody Gordy. Cody Brundage in the triangle. A la Quinton, Rampage Jackson back to back. I lost my goddamn mind.

I loved it, Mike, because I think it was you that said in the broadcast, you put it out there in the universe where there was one fight before the J'ai car close-slam where someone tried to slam their way out of guard and you brought it up. You put it in the universe. You brought up the Rampage or car to a rona slam. And then it was two fights later. Get your car with the armbar slam over Seleki. And look at this. You just picks him up. And there's a little method to it. Look how he slams on the side of his head. That was just nasty. Super nasty. And then for Cody, he needed that. Cody's coming off his last fight where he got illegally... He got fouled. And he took his five minutes and opted not to fight. Got a lot of booze. A lot of people question if he had that fight in him or not. And for him to go out and get a Slam K. O, there is no questions to be answered. He needed that. So to have him back to back, man, I don't think we'll ever get that again in the octagon.

No, that's right. You know, and I lost my mind here. You might be able to see me. I'm like, Oh, no, here we go again. Boom, side of the head again. People were putting out the theory. They were like, because the octagon, as you know, and for anyone that hasn't fought in the USC, which is most people, it's quite padded, isn't it? When you walk on it, it is definitely a lot of cushioning there. But people were like, Oh, maybe there's not as much padding in Austin. I'm like, Shut up. Don't be sorry. They just generated a lot of force. They were stunning knockouts.

Yeah. I don't think we'll ever get that again. To get one Slam K. O. Like that a year is a rarity in itself. The last one I can remember, I think, was Jordan Leavitt when he fought Matt Wyman. That's the last one that comes to my mind. But to get two of them back to back, it really epitomizes that thing when we say, expect the unexpected. When that octagon door closes, you don't know what is going to happen. It's complete chaos in there. And it's very fitting for it to be for the Jimmy Vee Week fight event. I feel like every time we do this event for Jimmy Vee Week, it always turns out to be the craziest fights.

Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I just want to explain that this troll-like creature that has appeared on stage on screen is Michael Harrington. He's the one of the producers on the podcast. He does a fantastic job. Harrington, what of you to add to this situation? And feel free to jump in and out at your leisure, as you say in America.

I appreciate that, Mike. Yeah, just to follow up with that, there were 12 total Slam K-Os in the history of the USC before this event. Never more than one per year. And this in back-to-back fights is pretty damn crazy.

Yeah. No, it was, man. It really, really was. And the crowd did lose their mind. We're building up. We're building up. We're going to step forward a few spaces, though. We're going to go right to the Co-main event. So jail in turn and last week, obviously, he took the fight on very short notice. There's your dog in the background. What's his name?

Oh, that's Blue. She's just checking you out.

Oh, what's up, Blue? Bless. -yeah. -beautiful dog. Jaylet Turner didn't sound too keen on the fight. Leading up to it, he didn't seem too motivated. Obviously, he had to make way. And that's never easy for him with a full camp, but he did credit to him. Bobby Green and Jailen, they've got personal history. They know each other from the Dino, which is short for Sandburn a Dino. They weren't overly thrilled, I think, on fighting one another, certainly like this. But regardless, we knew the fight was going to be good. Bobby Green went out there, fought the way that he always fights, hands-low, slick striker, all the rest of it. But Jailen Turner, I've said this for quite some time, he is something special. The way that he strikes, the speed that he has, and the power, and 6'3 at lightweight. And if you look at the fight with Matias Gamrot, very good. Anti-wrestling as well. Lost the fight, but still, you know what I mean? It was a close, quick decision. But the way he knocked him out, the beautiful right-hand connects with the temple. Bobby Green goes down. Here we go. Let's take a look at it.

Slips him, catches him with the right, wobbles in, follow-ups again. And now look at this. It's over.

Makes me sick.

The fight, it's done. What is the refereeare you waiting for?

Especially those last two. Those last two were the worst.

And as I said, Jaylon's powerful, man. So he's sitting up, he's posture up all the way. He's reigning down blows as hard as he can. I think there was probably nine or 10 unnecessary punches there. Here's the question. In your opinion, is that the worst stop you've ever seen?

Man, there's a few. There's the fight that Valentina Shechenko had against, I think, Priscilla, I forget her last name, but I.

Think it was and that.

Was the one where I think Priscilla took a way in the hundreds, a couple of hundred shots, and Mario Yamasaki came out and said, Oh, it's giving her the opportunity to be a warrior. I don't think that's the case. And for people that when you watched that Jaylen Turner.

Finish-by the way, Dana talked so much shit about that. He was like, Really?

You don't care badly for admitting fault because I heard that he actually did not even try to defend the stoppage. It was like, Dude, I messed up. And in that profession, being a referee, you don't get that very often where these guys will accept fault. So bad stoppage, but good on him for acknowledging it. But then what makes the shots worse is when you're the fighter on bottom and you're getting punched, the second you rest your head on the canvas and you get hit, it's like getting hit twice. When you don't have any space for your head to rebound from these shots and you stick your head on the canvas, it's like getting hit two for one. That's why I say those last two or three punches in that sequence were like, it was essentially four or six. His head was on the canvas. That's where it got really scary. But for Jaylen, we got to give him his credit. The thing I love about him is everything he throws is meaningful. He doesn't really throw shots that don't have a purpose. And like you said, he is a special talent. I've heard the stories in the gym where guys can't even touch him.

Sean Strickland said he's one of his least favorite people to spark because he can't hit him. He's hard to hit. He's slick. So with his.

Frame- And it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing as well. I'm glad Sean said that, and I've used him for big fights. The reason it's embarrassing is because he fights a bloodyightweight. Do you know what I mean? This guy is 6'3. He's taller than both of us. He's taller than both of us by far. How tall are you, Mike?

I'm like six-one, a little over 6'1.

I, when I got arrested at the police station, they had me at 6'2, but I have my shoes on. Rebecca is my wife. She's always like, You're not 6'2. Let it go. Anyway, so there he is. He's taller than both of us, and he's bloody brilliant at what we do. And you're not trying to knock people out in sparring, but it's bloody embarrassing. But last week, people were calling him a weight bully. What do you think about that? Because if he can make the weight and still perform, he's not a weight bully because he's making the sacrifices, because had that have gone in the later rounds, he would have had an issue like he did against Dan Hucker. He definitely slowed down in that fight.

Yeah, and I think that for people, you don't really hear someone use the term weight bully for someone that's a striker. For me, it's usually like, Oh, he's a weight bully. That's why Khabib Normeghan Manov is so good. I've heard people say that about Habib, and I'm like, That couldn't be any further from the truth. The thing that people don't know, most people that use the term weight bully, they don't realize what it's like to make that weight. For someone to come down, guy is 180. I think Jaylen posted a picture where he was 180 pounds on November 22nd. He had to make that descent to 156. You don't realize how you feel afterwards. It's not like you put the weight back on and you feel 100 %, you're a fraction of yourself. That's not the Jaylen Turner that you get inside the gym. That's the Jaylen Turner you get that's compromised from a weight cut. I guarantee you those are two completely different fighters. For him to still perform after that weight cut, that's impressive. I just don't like the term weight bully. You can't use it for a guy as skilled as Jaylen Turner.

The skills are what produce the results for him. I mean, he's a tremendous striker.

Do you know what I feel? I do feel for Bobby Green because... And listen, people are going to say that I'm talking about myself and all the rest of it. But Saturday night, when I was watching Bobby Green, sorry, before Bobby Green had his fight, before he came out, I started thinking, and I was seeing a lot of parallels with his career and my career. Bobby's been around for a long time, right? He's fought a lot of great fighters. Granted, I was fighting, without sounding like a prick, maybe some more high-profile fights, whatever. But still, I was winning a few, then I'd lose one. I'd win a few, I'd lose one. But I never got the title fight and all the rest of it. But then at 37, I did. And I thought, Look at Bobby. He's putting it all together now. He's 37 years old. He just knocked out Grant Dawson. He submitted Tony Ferguson. If he goes out there and beats Jaylen Turner, he might be on the cusp of a title fight. And what a story this would be. Of course, that didn't happen because mixed martial arts is.

A bitch. It's a son of a gun, isn't it? I said it in the pre-show. I said, Bobby Green, and I don't like comparing fighters to other fighters, but it's really hard not to in this instance where I feel like if Bobby Green would have beat Jaylen Turner, I feel like he was on that trajectory that we saw with Jorge Masmodov, where Masmod didn't have the best record, but people loved how it really he was, he loved the way he fought.

Better.

Comparison. It is. But if.

You think about it- I'm just too good-looking. But if.

You can think about it, though, he only won two fights before he found himself in the BMF fight with Nate Diaz. So you think about Bobby Green, he goes out there and beats Jaylen Turner. Look, rankings matter, but when somebody can put together that Jorge Moczadol-esque run at the veteran stage of their career, same thing you did. I think it's something you have to capitalize on because it only lasts so long. It's not like a 27-year-old person with 8-10 years left. This is someone that's at the tail end. You got to squeeze it with every last drop. So it would have been cool to see what would have happened if Bobby won, but I'm still happy for Jaylen. It's one of those things to do. Both guys are tremendous fighters. You made the best man win. It was fun while it lasted for sure.

Yeah, I'm over the moon for Jaylen. I've known him for quite some time now, and as I said, we used to train. So yeah, over the moon for him and fair play to Bobby Green. He got up. He had a smile on his face. He went and embraced Jaylen Turner. No bad blood there. Jaylen is just doing what he's going to do. That's the job. Until the referee pulls you off, you keep firing punches. Simple as that. Now, talking of firing punches in the main event, Ormans or Rukia, I've been impressed with this guy for a long time. I've always known he was special. That fight with Matias Garmat, I always talk about it. I do because I was so blown away at the speed, the pace, and the technicality of all of it. He's a slick striker, but I didn't think he had the power of Beníl Darís. I thought Benio, that was the big advantage that Benio had. I really did feel like that. If I didn't last long, it was about a minute thereabouts, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. But he jumps in, he lands the knee, which wasn't the hardest knee.

Then he lands the punch and he didn't have the feet on the ground. As we know, you generate the power from the ground like you're swinging a golf club. I know you and DC are always talking about golf, and it drives me up the goddamn wall. Shut up about golf. This is this big thing right now. Everyone thinks golf is cool, right?

Have you tried it? Have you tried it?

Bro, I've got one eye. I've got no death perception. I couldn't play golf with two eyes.

I think you could. If you can win a USC middleweight title, I don't see you not being able to figure out how to hit. At least hit the ball.

I don't.

Hit it. I just hit it.

They're walking around. They've got the polo shirts on. They're looking like nerds, right? And they're putting it all over Instagram. Dude, you look like a dick. You look like a dick. Stop it and stop going on about it. Your midlife crisis bastard you. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. Anyway, how did I get onto that? What was I.

Talking about? The growth of Michael Chiesa going on right now.

No, I'm joking, of course.

I know. I don't care.

I love a good round of golf. I love nine holes. I prefer one. So you generate the power from the feet. It starts in the feet, comes up the leg, you twist your hip, and the last thing that comes out is the arm. That's why people call them arm punches. If it's just the arm, there's not much power there. But he lands that punch without the feet established and granted, okay, there's a bit of momentum from the body weight because he's going forward. So that added to it. But even with that... That's what I've considered. That was very surprising because of the opponent, but the fashion in which he knocked him out, very, very shocking.

That's so nice. It reminded me of Anthony Pettus almost. Pettus used to do that thing where he'd throw the right headkick, and as he's retracting on one foot, he would throw the right straight. For Arman, this was a must-win. And I agree with you. I think skill for skill, even in the wrestling department, it's close. Maybe Arman has been edged a little bit in the wrestling, but I thought skill-wise, when he comes to striking and it comes to grappling, I thought Benial was a more skilled fighter, but youth can play a big role in these fights. But for Arman, I think that there was a lot of pressure on him to perform. Because if you look at his short notice, U-C debut against Islam, we're all like, Holy cow, this kid's got some promise. Has a great fight with Metau's Gamra. And then you go to the Joachim Silva fight where he's like a -11.50 favorite. When somebody is that favorite in a fight, you are expected to get it over with in a couple of minutes. And not only did Joachim Silva hang in there for almost three rounds, but he wobbled him at one point.

So I feel like Arman not only had to win, but he had to go out there and finish, Benille, to erase that because there's a standard set by these matchmakers. Sean Shelby, after that Joachim Silva fight, I was sitting next to him and I could tell you he was not that thrilled because he didn't want to put an unranked guy in against Arman Suruki. And so if you're going to do that, the guy's got to go out there and finish. And he was like, I can't believe this took three rounds. So for Arman, it was good on him to reintroduce himself to the powers that be that, Hey, I'm a guy that belongs in the top five. You should put me in some big fights. And I think with the storyline with Islam, he can't be any more than a fight away from a title fight.

Brian, do me a favor. I was trying to type, but my keyboard is not working. My keyboard is not connected. It's driving me nuts. But it doesn't matter because I can speak to the producer. I was trying to just put a little thing in the private chat down here. Just play that finish again, Brian, because I want to see that, because that was really something special, because I forgot about the follow-up, sorry, the first punches that he threw to set up the knee. Can anybody hear me? There we go. Have a look. I mean, what a... So jab, right hook, right knee, right-hand. Look at it again.

Doubles up hook. I like that. You got to use a flurry of punches if you're going to pull someone's hands up to throw the knee. You can't throw through the shot and go to the knee. You got to touch them up to bring them up. And that was just... That was really nice.

That was one of the most stylish finishes we've seen in quite some time. It really was. When I see it again there, because I just thought of the knee and the punch because I lost my mind and I was out of my feet and it's against Benio Daryush. I mean, unbelievable.

Let's have a look. Let's see who has the throats.

Coming down. Connected a little bit, boom.

It's like a Superman punch with your feet on the ground. Pull the knee back to generate some power.

The placement was perfect on the chin as well. So he's calling out every man and the dog he wants to fight is on Makhev. Of course, he took on Makhev, and he did it on short notice. He wants to fight him again, did well, went to a decision after all. When Dana was asked about it at the post-fight press conference, here's what he had to say regarding him fighting Iselin, Makhev, Sauroukhi. He said, It does throw a wrench into things. I mean, you can definitely look at how he looked tonight. And I don't know. We'll see what happens. The fight will be big. Yeah, it's a great stylistic matchup. That's a great fight. It is a great fight. The question is, in your opinion, Charles Oliver is probably next. Then we got Justin Geiji. Did Almanzai Rukie and just leapfrog those guys?

I am going to say no. And here's why. Charles Olivera, look, that was a bad cut, but we've seen people step in there with the stakes that high. You can expect them to... Are you going to ice Justin Gaijie, who just won the BMF title, which just.

- Just Iced Justin Boyer. Yeah, very true.

But they said the BMF title represents a one way ticket to a title fight after Olivera and Islam fight. Well, we saw what happened. Charles had to withdraw. Volkinovsky steps in. I think Olivera has got to go to the back of the line. And when I say back of the line, I think he's got to fight Arman Suroukian. That's what you do. You do Gechi versus Islam next, and then you do Olivera and Arman on the same card. It makes sense. That's the fight. And you think about this, Charles lost to his mom, beats Benile, and then he gets another title fight. It's like, well, maybe you need one more win.

Is that the way to be? I'm hearing myself bad, Brian, just sometimes when I make those stupid noises, but that's brilliant. I do like that.

Yeah, it's what makes sense. Geiji deserves it. He earned the BMF belt that represents a ticket to a title fight.

But that's... I mean, I love it. I love it. It's great. I'm not against it. But Olivera, you're eliminating either Olivera or Sauroukhian.

Yeah.

But you know what?

I'm here for it.

It's the fight game. Tough shit. You think about this.

That's the way it goes. Armon has time. He's 27. So if Olivera beats him, dude, he's got plenty of time left to get himself into a title fight. So it's really a win-win. Olivera wins, you get that fight that everybody wants to see. Rematch with Gechi or rematch with Arman. I like it.

I'll.

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Yeah, man, I'm telling you, dude, I'm going to be so jacked by June. I just think it would be so funny to have a six-pack.

I'm stressed out to the max with this show that I'm doing next week.

Six-packs are overrated, though, because if you have a six-pack, that means you're not drinking dark beer or having the occasion-It's the beer. It is always the beer. The beer is like the... It's the Cryptonights with six pack.

I hit 214 pounds today. I am the lightest I've been in a long time, let me tell you. The six pack is coming back.

What's the biggest you've been? What's the biggest you've been?

-238, 239.

You've had five pounds, so you've been about 245.

Exactly. Every fighter lies.

About their weight. Every fighter, if you're like, Hey, what would you make me up?

I woke up.

At 195. No, it's 200. You just round up.

Yeah, I know it is. But Rebecca's lost weight as well because she was... Listen, let's just be honest. My wife's lost weight. We did a live on YouTube and the people, they're brutal. This is a woman. They're thinking of people's mental health. They're like, Oh, look at that. Looks like Rebecca's bulking up for heavyweight and stuff like that. Do you know what I mean? I was like, secretly, I'm like, Good. Talk more shit. She needs to lose a few pounds. You know what I mean? And she's lost a few. She's cut out all the alcohol. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to lose a bit of weight, get rid of the alcohol. I'll still have a little bit, though, because you got to relax. Anyway, Harrington, word of the years. This is a thing, apparently.

I'm excited to hear this word.

So the Oxford University Press, which publishes the Oxford English Dictionary, came out with their word of the year. It is a Gen Z term. Michael, I know you know it. Sorry, bizband, I know you know it. But Mr. Kieset, do you want to take a shot in the dark? I'll give you one hit. It's very popular with Gen Z.

Okay, well, I got a hint at the beginning of the show because I said Raz.

Yeah, all right. But if you didn't know that, what would you come out with?

I have no idea because we've had no cap and we've had, I don't know, Mid and Zaza and all these weird words. I don't know.

That's a good one. Yeah. What the fuck is Zaza?

I think it's a weed reference. I don't know. Is it bad weed or something like that?

Brian, come on. Let's have a fore shot.

I thought it was a Zima. I was like, Oh, Zima is coming back.

Oh, Zima is making a return.

What the hell is Zima? What?

You've never had a Zima?

You haven't lived yet. What is.

A Zima. I mean, I've got a Zima right now. For Christmas, I'm going to find a Zima. I'm probably going to have to go on eBay and buy like-I'm suffering. I don't know. Like an H-Logs 98 or something.

You won't find a drinkable Zima.

These days. Dude, I had Zima sponsor me in 2018. I made a comment in an interview and they saw it. Some ladies like, I'm the rep for Zima. We're making a comeback. And they sent me an old-school pager and they're like, Turn the pager on and we'll send you a page when the Zima drops the gas station. I had this thing plugged in a charger for a month, and all of a sudden I just hear this noise. I'm like, What the fuck is that noise right now? And my wife's like, That's your pager. It's going off. I was like, Oh, no. I pick it up. It's like Zima dropped. I was like, Yes, dude.

That looks like a smir of ice. So that's an alcoholic drink.

Yeah, and we used to drop Jolly Ranches if.

You knew.

On them. It essentially is a smir of ice.

That sounds like the gayest drink ever. So it's all very gay. And now you're dropping Jolly Ranches in it. Jesus Christ.

This is when I was drinking when I was like 12, dude. So give me.

Some credit. Yeah, of course. I used to like a good Smyrnaf Ice back in the day.

Have you ever been ice, Mike? -nope. What? Have you ever been Iced?

We're trying to find out what the word of the year is, brother. You're going on a tangent about the Seamers. You're going off the chain. You're going on about the bloody plugging in the Jolly Ranches, the Harrington.

So.

It's riz, as in getting riz'd up.

What's Riz'd up? That sounds-.

Brian, come back.

That sounds like it's violating.

I'm trying to think of what the old synonyms for Riz were, but.

Like- A game. I think the fact it rimes with giz, it just throws me off on it.

Hamilton, first of all, what does it mean?

It means to have the gift of Gab, be able to flirt with the girl, be able to get her attraction and her interest. I think we would call it game back in the day. Well, it's an Oxford.

Dictionary, so they do have a definition. What is it? It's a noun that means style, charm, attractiveness, or the ability to attract a romantic or sexual partner.

All right. And then tell me how they... Because I'm very interested in this, how they have eloquently put together how they came up with this and their definition and why they're choosing this word because some of the shit that this generation comes out with is ridiculous. I want to know, why did they settle on Riz?

I'm looking here. It doesn't say exactly why they picked that one, but they did provide a shortlist of other words that were just super popular. They did say it was at the forefront of... Words like Riz came to the forefront during the pandemic. So It's just people having more conversations online, it just populated way more. But the other words they had for this year is Beige flag. What?

That's two words, by the way. Tell the Oxford Dictionary they need to sort their.

Shit out. They didn't even put a dash.

Hi, guys. It's Michael from the Oxford Dictionary here. I've got some great words for you this year. First one's Beige flag. I left school at 16. I can tell the Oxford Dictionary right now that they are wrong because Beige flag is two fucking words.

What does it mean, though? What is Beige like?

It means like it's not a red flag. This isn't something conservative or problematic. It's that this person is boring or milktoast.

It's the pronouns of describing people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This list is the pronouns of describing people. My God.

I do agree with parasocial being in the running for word of the year because a lot of people have been developing relationships with people that they don't know online. I think that's a weird phenomenon that has been pushed to the forefront over the past whatever, two, three years now.

Yeah. Well, I think what's weird is a lot of these big social media personalities, when you see them in real life, they're dead silent. It's like they have no social skills, but I watch your Instagram and you are loud and prolific and your hands are flying and your... That'd be like this being the way he is now. And then you meet him in public and he's just hovering over his phone, not talking, not talking to anybody. That's good social skills. But kids these days don't have it.

I keep myself to myself, Michael Kiesa.

You're a flamboyant.

Character, Mike. A flamboyant character. I've never been so-.

In 2001, that was a word of.

The one you were describing. I've never been described flamboyant. What else we got on the list, Harrington?

We have situationship, a romantic or sexual relationship that is not considered to be formal or established.

Well, Gen Z had to come up with a word to stop them from feeling like whores.

And they are probably going to come up with words to start them feeling like losers. Yeah. I'm sorry, Gen Z. They can't put up with any emotional stress. They can't put up with anything. They get addicted to everything. You can't get mad at them. You can't momentarily for fuck sake at them. I have someone that shall remain anonymous, and when I got a little bit mad. I went for fuck sake and that was it. That was the end of the relationship. The guy had fucked up pretty big, right? It was a big mistake. And I just went for fuck sake. Don't do that. Anyway, we'll leave that there. Do you know what I mean?

It was... I'm curious when the show gets over, I'm going.

To ask you who that was. Toughen up. Toughen up. What else we got?

We have Heat Dome, which I've never heard that before, a persistent high pressure weather system over a particular geographic area with traps massive hot air below.

I thought of a heat dome, sounds like- I.

Was expecting a Gen Z word, not a heat dome with a scientific term to it.

Yeah, Swifty, which I think that might be my word of the ear.

This means a Swifty for sure.

I like to shake it up, baby.

Prompt was a big word of the ear because of the... No, but because of the rise in AI. And then the last one is de-influencing, the practice of discouraging people from buying particular products or of encouraging people to reduce their consumption of material goods.

That's not, again, Oxford Dictionary based in England. I'm ashamed. Influence. I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're just going to put a D, D-influence. Yeah, pretty much sure that means the negative to take away, you know what I mean? Oh, my God. Speaking of that, you did just touch on something a second ago. What did you say?

Which person? Me?

Did we talk about Taylor Swift?

Oh, yeah, Swiftys. He shooted the game last night.

What did you really? Tell me about your experience.

I wasn't at the game. I was just watching on TV. Anthony might have been at the game because he's a seasoned ticket holder. No, it was a Lambo. It wasn't at their head, it was at Lambo. But Taylor Swift showed up for the Chiefs game, and the Chiefs lost by two points, I believe, to the Green Bay Packers. Do you watch American football, Pissby?

I don't know. I am aware of some media outlets trying to take down some young, innocent child for going dressed up as his football team. Let's not get into that.

No, we'll go way into the weeds on that one.

Yeah, I keep up with the news. I keep up with the news. And Taylor Swift. Every time I turn the news on, there is Taylor Swift. She's there with her boyfriend, Travis, Kelsey. I know the names. And you'll know another name that I'm going to throw your way. And Harrington, you can set the scene. And Brian, I would like your thoughts as well, because you like a good conspiracy, Brian. I know a lot about this. Paige Van Zandt, of course, former USC, Burnnuckle, AEW, wrestling superstar, and sensation on Only fans says that the whole Travis, Kelsey, Taylor Swift thing is a conspiracy, Harrington.

Yes. So she says it is essentially the NFL must have put her up to it, and it is to make the NFL bigger. Getting Taylor Swift at these games is going to greatly increase the watchability of the to the NFL.

Brian, is this the episode where Harrington gets fired for the worst description of a story that he knows all about?

Okay. I mean, it's coming at some point, but what did I get wrong this time? Brian, do you want to just play the video?

Palsy Love Story? Yeah. I believe it is 100 % fake. Come for me, Swifty. You know what? I have NFT fans coming for me. I can handle the Swifty. I believe it is 100 % fake. It is publicity. One, it's huge for the NFL because, yes, the NFL is big. Taylor Swift is huge. And now she's getting an entirely different demographic to come watch the NFL. I think of the wives that are buying Travis, Kelsey, and Jersey's now. It's a huge publicity play on both fronts. It's good for Taylor Swift. It's good for the NFL. It's good for Travis, Kelsey. There are so much strategic stuff that's happening. You are a conspiracy theorist a little bit. 100 %. Way more than I am. It's not a conspiracy theorist if everything I say is true. Yeah. Okay, Paige, not everything you say is true. Let's just jack it down. First and foremost, if there was ever some type of conspiracy for popularity, it would be Travis initiating this himself. It's not like the NFL is at some plateau of viewership. They're not going to go hit the office and be like, All right, boys, how do we get more viewers?

Here's what we're going to do. We're going to tell Travis, Kelsey, to reach out to Taylor Swift so they can date so we can bring in more fans. Get out of here with that. I don't buy it for a second. And for Travis, good on him because that's a good retirement plan. He's already well off enough. Him and Taylor start having kids, and then he can be a stay-home dad, to say the least. I mean, she's- Brian?

I have a more deep, dark conspiracy theory.

About this. I'm going to believe you overheard, to be honest with you. Let's hear what you have to say.

Well, this one's a little out to left field for sure, but I think it's funny that Travis Kelsie was putting out vaccine commercials and then started dating Taylor Swift. I think she is payment for him being a shill.

That's-.

Hold.

On.

Oh, my God. They just have Taylor Swift. The far left as well as all their- No, not the far left.

Oh, this is not the...

Oh, the pharmaceutical companies.

Yeah.

They have their prized possession. They have Taylor Swift. Just on speed dial.

Money.

Buy a lot of few things, man. Listen, Taylor Swift, number one, it just came out. She's a billionaire, okay? She is probably the most famous pop star on the planet, one of the biggest celebrities on the planet. She's at a level of Michael Jackson in his prime. We're going, He back to the '80s, right? She does not- They had Michael Jackson. What?

They had Michael Jackson.

Oh, God. Who had Michael Jackson.

The people in charge, man.

Dude, here we go.

The same people who.

Are funding Jeffrey Epstein's Island.

Oh, here we go.

The same people who... Those are the people that run the world. It's not crazy to say that.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but I don't think... I think if anybody is plotting with this Taylor Swift and Travis, Kelsey thing, I think it's him. I think it's him like, I'm going to do what I can. Because if you look at his track record- Nobody's plotting. -his last four girlfriends- It's all plot, Mike. But you.

Got to know-.

Nobody's plotting. You need to look up Travis, Kelsey's last four girlfriends. And I will tell you this- I couldn't give a shit.

I'm not. I am refusing to look up Travis, Kelsey's last four girlfriends. Brian will do that for me.

I was there. I think that's my hint.

Yeah, Q-O-Man. But I will say this before they come up, they are polar opposite of Taylor Swift. That's the thing that's a little bit interesting about it. No, no, no.

-here we go. No, no, no. He's just playing the field. He's doing the licorice all sorts. Listen, I'll be honest. So what if there's polar opposites? I like a blonde. I like a brunette. You know what I mean? Variety is the spice of life. I don't know what he gets paid. I'm going to take a stab in the dark, right? Yeah. He might like a stab in the dark sometimes as well. You got to mix it up. I'm going to take a stab in the dark here, right? He's got millions of dollars. Will he have millions of dollars?

He's very well off.

Taylor Swift is a billionaire, okay? Is it possible that they just fell in love and the media can't get enough of it? Is that possible? Of course.

That's what I think it is. But I'm just saying if there was to be a conspiracy, that's what it would be. I think Travis, Kelsey, shot is shot and it's landed.

Yeah, of course, that's probably the way it happened, but that's no fun.

Right?

Yeah, exactly. It's no fun. Real quick. Yes or no answers. Did we go to the moon?

Yes.

Is the Earth flat?

No.

Do you believe in evolution?

Yes. Okay.

Is there a God?

There's a higher power for sure. Yeah.

How many TV do you have?

Zero.

This was getting to know Michael Kieset in 30 seconds or less. All right. It's a good little segment. I'm going to start doing that every time.

That's nice.

We've had some surprising answers to those questions.

Yeah. I have other conspiracies that just aren't fit for the YouTube channel. The Epstein stuff, the Pizza Gate stuff, that's what I get into. But I'm not a flat earther. I believe in evolution, that type of stuff. There's nothing that tells me otherwise. I love Joe Roban's Stone to Ape theory. I think that's the best.

Well, to.

Be fair.

On the whole Epstein thing, why won't they release the flatlogs?

I did that. I agree, for sure. It drives me nuts, dude.

Here we go. Because all the people that would release it are on it. Yeah.

Well, because also as well, and I saw this, this isn't my... I don't spend too much time thinking about these things. Yeah, but I did see on the news the other day they were talking about it, and they said, Well, let's just assume if they did release it, because they just, once again, if I'm not correct, they were going to release it the time where it was controlled, expired, and they could have released it, and they chose not to once again. And the person that was talking about it was like, Hold on a minute. If they did release it, stay on the screen, bro. If they did release it, maybe there's innocent people on there that get to clear their name because there was someone on there that went there with the children or something, and it was totally natural causes or innocent reasons.

You could make the argument that anything is a cover story when you're going to somewhere that is devious, let's say.

How about Ricky Gervais? Remember the intro? Oh, it was amazing. The Emmys or Oscars? And you just see him say something about Epstein Island? And you just see Tom Hanks, they snap into Tom Hanks and he's like...

I love Tom Hanks, man.

I do, too, bud.

We should.

Have a phone.

Call about Tom Hanks. I know. I've seen the rumors. I've heard all about Tom Hanks.

Not the guy. Not Gump, dude. Not Gump. Gump. You can't do this to me, Tom Hanks. Come on.

Straight, very carefully. When you're talking about Tom Hanks, please, Matt. I am. I don't know- I'm just saying. -you've never seen this show before. Clearly, I lose my mind. Anyone starts talking shit about Tom Hanks, it happens every episode. I won't stand for it. There's a lot of things I'll stand for. But do not be using or tweaking the name of Tom Hanks in vain. Do you.

Follow.

Him on Twitter?

No. I couldn't give a fuck.

He's a weird follow on Twitter.

Yeah. His son is, though. Have you seen his son?

His son looks like a billboard.

Of- Billboard of modern society shit. He wanted to be a modern-day rapper or something. Oh, really? Some rapper or whatever. Who knows? Maybe he's grown out of it. That's a long time ago.

He's actually.

Dude, he's real-life Jamie Kennedy from Malibu's Most Wanted. He talks.

In a patchoua.

Yeah, dude. Yeah, he does.

Can you. No way. You got to be.

Kidding me. He gives up, Right about now when he's talking.

You know what? Oh, my gosh. No way.

So Tom Hanks, all right. One of the nicest guys in the world, it seems like, but that's the son. That's the offspring, Brian. Are you saying that some of these reasons might be true? And that's why the children that he's rearing. By the way, I think it's all bullshit for the record, mainstream media. I don't think this. I don't buy this. I don't like this. But I'm saying this for you all for the sake of the conversation.

I don't know how the best man in the world could have raised this guy, but listen.

To this. Big up, big up, the whole island, massive. It's your boy, Chetna. Coming straight from the Golden Gloves you all are saying?. I'm going to tune in. Oh.

That is not how he talks all the time. There is not a chance in hell that is how he talks all the time. That was just for camera. Yeah.

He's having a laugh. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. I like that. I like that video. Anyway, let's move on.

Let's move on. We got to let go of the Tom Hanks thing.

Cast away, brilliant. Big, one of my favorite movies is a kid. Forest Dump. What else is good?

Oh, Sleepless in Seattle.

Toy Story.

Toy Story.

Captain Phillips.

I'm the captain. I'm the captain. Remember that, Michael? I'm the captain. You went from Michael.

To Count Bissby to Michael to Captain, Bissby.

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I think the other big fight this weekend, Mike Perry versus Eddie Alvarez. I don't know if you guys got a chance to see that.

I did. I did. So after the fight, I went to a nice little steakhouse with Brendan Fitzgerald and Lappe, you'll know him, one of the producers. And I may have been sent a little stream, so I've clicked on it whilst having some food. Pretty short fight. I want to say this. I didn't watch it too much. I was at dinner, but I did watch it. It was short. I think it was either one or two rounds. I forget now. Maximum respect to Eddie Alvarez and Mike Perry, because what I did see, it was too furious to really break it down. I mean, them two just brawled their asses off, swinging with everything they had. The amount of damage that both men took was unbelievable. And then in the end, the corner of was like, No, that's it. If I'm mistaken, correct me, please, Harrington. But as I was sitting, watching dinner, that's what it looked like. And I just thought it was for a very short fight, the amount of action was ridiculous.

And they do two-minute rounds of bare-knuckle, correct? It's not threes. It's not five minutes. I think it's two-minute rounds.

Two.

Minutes. Yeah. I didn't watch the fight, but, surprisingly, I watched a lot of clips from the presser. Mike Bissby, or not Mike Bissby, sorry, Mike Perry. I didn't mean to mix them up.

Mike Perry- Mike Ciesa.

Hey, there you go. He's had a really funny video in the locker room. I don't know if you guys saw it where he's doing his king of violence spiel. And he's like, I don't know. I'll talk to you guys about it afterwards, but either way, Mike Perry is still- Just say it. No, he talks about grabbing them by the... Do you remember the grabbing by the pussy thing with Donald Trump? You can say that.

We don't care.

Okay, so he makes a reference to that. He gives this really funny speech. I'll send it to you guys. But bare-knuckle boxing is Mike Perry's calling. There's not a better sport out there. It's just so be fitting for him. It's his personality, the way he fights. And he was even a good MMA fighter. He had good grappling skills and take down defense, but he is fit for bear knuckle boxing. For however long that this is sustainable, he is going to be the face of the KFC. Oh, this one. This is funny.

Oh, let's have a look. You got a big winning to say the Alvarez. How are you feeling right now? I feel great, man. My first act as king is this world needs men got to stand up, bro. We have to man up. We got to stop being liberals. We got to start grabbing women by the pussy again point blank, period. Man, get in the kitchen, make me a sandwich, bro. I got work to do. I'm here to feed the family. I feed our pockets and you feed our mouths and then we feed each other and I feed off of you and that watery little playground you got down. Oh, God.

He is so funny, like naturally funny. He's weird as it is. I don't listen to Joe Regan religiously, but when I saw Mike Perry was on, I was like, I got to listen to Mike Perry because he's going to say some funny shit.

He's brilliant. And you know what? I really like the guy. Unless he's out of his mind. He's saying some controversial stuff there. He's trying to be funny. He's trying to have a laugh. Listen, the good thing about the world is that there's all different types of people. If everyone was the same, if it was uniform, if everyone thought the same, had the same opinions, dressed the same, had the same interests and hobbies, the world would be a boring place. So everyone, be yourself. And it's great that we have people like Mike Perry. It's great that we have people that are the opposite of Mike Perry. You know what I'm saying? Just be yourself, everyone. As long as you're a good person, then- Yeah.

It's not like I'm laughing because I agree with him. I'm laughing because it's like Sean Strickland. He'll say stuff I don't agree with, but I can't help but get a lot out of it.

Oh, no, no, no, no. We need.

People like Mike Perry and Sean Strickland.

Mike Perry is hilarious. He's absolutely hilarious. Good for him. And I am so happy. So happy. I mean, the fight was amazing, and he's making a lot of money from what I hear. So again, well, well done. Harrington, that was not what I was looking for, though. I was looking for... And I'm going to do it myself. I'm going to do it myself. Oh, Brian and Harrington jump on this screen, please, as we have this conversation. So this news broke last week, the Light, Heavyweight Champion of the world, would the one and only Jamal Hill, friend of the show, of course. I think it was just after we did the show last week, and the news broke. I just looked at my phone and there it was. I scrolled Instagram for a quick minute and it popped up, Jamal Hill arrested for domestic violence. And that's never a good headline because you think one thing, your mind immediately goes to what is typically domestic violence. You've beaten up your wife, something like that. But it wasn't that. How would you give us some more details?

Yes. So in this story comes out that Jamal Hill got into an exchange with his brother. He did address it very briefly on his YouTube channel. He said, There's been reports out there today about the situation that happened when I was back home in Michigan visiting for the holidays. I will just say this. At this time, it's an open case. I've been advised not to speak on it, which I know not to speak on. I just can't wait for the truth to be told in court. I will wait for that day and I look forward to that day. People who know me and know my character who truly and truly rock with me and know who I am, hold on to that. Stay true to that. That's all I'm going to say on that.

I hate the headline because the outlets like TMZ they get a very casual following. They go to the one thing. Like you said, you see domestic violence, you just automatically think that this guy beat his girlfriend or his wife. You would think that for them, they would put the extra part about it being with his brother to not try to... I don't know. I don't know. I think it was very distasteful for them to just leave the headlines that bare when there's so much story.

I don't know if it was malicious or not. I mean, maybe that is... You know what I mean? Maybe it's just factual. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it's just it's classed as domestic violence. That was the charge because it was at home. I don't know this for a fact, but from what I'm led to believe this was after Thanksgiving. It was on Thursday. Brian Harrington, you do have brothers? I know, Michael, you've only got sisters. You might have beaten up some of your sisters over the years. They beat me up. I'll tell you this. As a man that's got three brothers, I have fought cat and dog, not with my younger brother, mainly with Conrad and Steven. And when I say fought, I've been beaten up many times. Conrad is the size of a bloody... He's gigantic. He is absolutely massive. He has kicked the living shit out of me. And we've had some wild fights in our house. My mom, the poor woman, and my dad having to break us up, and me getting this shit kicked out of me. Never had the police.

Involved, though. Yeah, if my brother went to jail every time he kicked the shit out of me on Thanksgiving, I mean, he would still be in jail. I mean, this shouldn't be a story. Like you do.

Dumb shit. Hold on. Sorry.

It's all right, buddy. Yeah, go on. You were saying your brothers.

He would be in jail forever. This isn't a story for the public, and especially not a domestic violence charge. I don't even know. I don't even know it would be better. Assault is not better than domestic violence. There's still really bad charges, but I don't know.

Dude, back in my day, this was just called family business. This didn't make the paper, dude.

Yes.

You and your.

Brother go to the side yard and fight it out. I don't know what to tell you.

Listen, I hate to go on... I've told my story. Our house growing up was a madhouse. It was a shit show. We were down on the whole street. My dad was loud. My mom was loud. There was a lot of shit going down, okay?

Sorry about that.

Well, you're good, brother. The police were never involved. I mean, maybe sometimes if you got really extreme, you know what I mean? The police were definitely around a few times. But what I'm saying is that nobody got taken away in the back of the car. Nobody was charged. Noone was fully reported on it because no one gave a fuck about us back then. And certainly no one was suing anybody or anything like that. Now, we don't know the details, right? We don't know the details. For Jamal Hill, obviously, he cannot speak on it because it is an active investigation. And of course, if he has a lawyer, which I'm assuming he does, they would have said, Don't talk about this. Not to mention the fact that you're the former light, heavyweight champion of the world and you want to fight for the belt. Don't complicate the waters. However, I guess we're going to wait and see. You know what I mean? Maybe we're all sitting there saying this is crazy. I mean, if he's gone. Smashed the house up, destroyed his brother. He's currently on a life support machine. Smacked his mom at the same time.

You know what I mean? Maybe they had to call the police. I would assume that that didn't happen, though.

Yeah, it's always the holidays. I don't know what it is. It's like this is a time for holiday cheer. It's like, no, siblings are fighting each other, old or young. It doesn't matter. The holidays are like a magnet for dysfunction in some families, I feel like. It's usually like it'sjust... And it's usually siblings-like-sibling-type rivalries. I may not have brothers, but I've been in many conflicts with my sister. I used to get my ass kicked by them a lot. But arguments arise on the holidays for some reason, I don't know why. It's something about the holiday spirit that just makes siblings want to fight each other.

No, it really is. It is always the holidays. Christmas in our house wasn't growing up, I mean, not this house that I've been now. This house is great. Yeah, that was always a good one. My mom and dad, that's when the fight of the year would go down. Christmas Day. It was awesome.

It has to be money stress too.

Anything else to add, Harryton or Brian, before we move on?

No. You shouldn't go to jail for beating up your annoying brother.

Yeah, and who knows? Maybe it's none of my business. But when it comes out in the public, you garnish interest in it naturally. I'd be interested to hear how the whole thing panned out. I have a feeling maybe they're in an argument that happened outside and maybe a neighbor called the police. Maybe it wasn't that bad, but there was an outside source. Who knows? Honestly, it's not my business nor is it the world's business how families operate, but it's just unfortunate for Jamal. And maybe I'm just being biased because I'm like, I'm a homer. Itry to be like Jamal a lot. So maybe I'm being a little hypersensitive to how this is being treated because it's just very unfortunate for the guy. He's had a rough view.

Well, no, but you actually said that perfectly there because the thing is... And more than likely, let's be honest, and we're again assuming probably a bit of alcohol involved. Usually is it's the holidays, right? You're drinking, you have a bit of an argument, and you start having... It maybe gets a little bit carried away. This is one hypothetical version. Hypothetical, of course, but IAs you just said there, maybe he was getting a little rowdy. Maybe the neighbors called the police. Maybe the police show up, and Jamal is like... Because there's one thing about family, your brothers, your wife, they will get you madder than anybody else on the planet. If I'm arguing with Rebecca, which doesn't happen very often, but when that does happen, my God, I take no prisoners. My temper is at a 10. Do you know what I mean? And if him and his brother, let's assume, because he was the guy I mentioned, are going at it, and then a cop shows up sticking his nose in where it's not required, and he might have just come, What the fuck are you even doing here? And all the rest. And then he gets arrested.

You put it all together. There he is. He's arrested for domestic violence.

Well, I don't know. I know what the rules are in Michigan, but I know in Washington State, if there is a domestic dispute, like if somebody calls the police, whether it's somebody within the problem or on the outside seeing it, if they call the police and say, Hey, these two people are fighting, it's getting physical, the cops always have to detain somebody. They'll show up like, well, there is a domestic dispute. We're here. Somebody has to go to jail. Who's it going to be? It literally boils down to that. At least that's the law here in Washington. I don't know about Michigan, but I know that I have friends that have gotten in domestic disputes with people within their family and had to go to jail because the cops are like, well, we have to take somebody. No one's getting off scot-free. So it could have been a situation with that as well, where the cops are just forced to detain somebody.

Anyway, I hope it all works out. I hope it was nothing too serious for Jamal. You never know, the champion of the world gets arrested. That's going to make headlines. As I say, hopefully it's just one of those days with family. But I saw this video at the weekend. Usc 296 is just around the corner. Colby, Covington, going up against Leon Edwards. As we know, he's Donald Trump's favorite fighter. Where are you on the list of Donald Trump's favorite fighters, Michael?

I don't think I make the list, honestly. Even though I did get to meet the former President of the United States, he didn't know me by a name. I did. I met him at... I forget which pay-per-view was. Msg? No, he came to a Vegas show this year. I was in training camp, but I saw him and I was with Juliana Pena. I wrote her Coattails because she's a former champion herself, wrote her Coattails up for a chance to meet the President. Whether you love him or hate him, you're always going to jump at the opportunity to meet a President. That's the leader of our country, whether you love him or hate him. It was pretty cool, though, but he did acknowledge that I was a fighter and he acknowledged my work at the desk, but he did know me by a name. He's a big Bo Nicol fan to my understanding, though.

Oh, he should be. Bo Nicol is the American hero, the man that's going to take down Hamzaat, the man that's going to reclaim the middleweight title. But America's already got it in Sean Strickland. Totally forgot about that. There was a cool little video doing the rounds. I'm excited for Leon Edwards versus Kobe Convins and going down in a couple of weeks. The same night as tales from the Archicorn to get your tickets from my ticket that quarter. Youkane. Nice plug. How many said, but, Bryan, play the video. We're at Mar-Lago. It was a good night seeing Trump. I just want to say we're going to be watching Kobe and then an incredible career. It'll be a great night and I look forward to traveling out there. You're going to root you on and you're going to be fantastic. I'm going to take.

Back to Wiltout.

You're going to take back to White House. We're going to make America ready. That's a very interesting concept. Let's put them together. We have to. We got to sit down and have some.

Dinner after meeting.

With him and showing him the suit that we made with his face and his mug shot on the back of it. Hold that tight so I can give it a good one, hopefully. Just a great night for Magda and what the future is to hold. That's pretty good. You're awesome. Good luck, Kobe. Good luck there, man. Just an honor to be here in.

His.

Presence, the presence of greatness. And we're going to make America great again. You could delay us, but you cannot deny us. We're coming, baby. We missed out the 7/16, live on Paperboard.

I have a good question for you, Mike. Who do you.

Think is the best? Hold on, real quick though. You got to give it to Colby. That man knows how to cut a promo. He really does. Regardless of Trump and his politics, regardless of what you think about him there, again, very charismatic. And them two together, they're going to double them up. He's going to take back the title. He's going to take back the White House. It's quite the story there, Michael.

It's a great story. And you know what? He really willed his way into a relationship with Donald Trump, and that's good for him. That's going to benefit him in and outside of the octagon, whether it be just free rounds on Trump's private golf course or whatever it is. But if Trump and Kolby can't win the office and the title at the same time, who do you think has better odds of winning? Kolby beating Leon Edwards or Donald Trump becoming President again? Who has better odds?

Well, that's a very easy question. Yeah. The easy answer is, Donald Trump is going to become the President. Okay, I'm sorry, Joe, but Donald Trump or somebody from the Republicans are going to be... The Republicans are going to be in power.

Yeah.

For sure. Leon Edwards is going to win that fight. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I'm pretty sure about that. Now, obviously, there's a chance of Colby, and I appreciate Colby very much. Yeah. But I favor Leon in that fight.

Whether.

It's Donald Trump or whoever the Republican representative is. Joe Biden can't string a sentence together these days. And I feel like a lot of people are going to be losing faith in him. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, man. I don't think he's got a good... His approval rating is in the toilet and things like that. So to answer your question because you asked it me, there's your answer.

Very simple. It's a good answer. I like it. I like Leon in that fight with Kolby too. I mean, I just think you don't want to do perennial matchups like how fighter A did against fighter C, that type of stuff. But you look at how Leon performed against Kamara Oostman. There's nothing that tells me Kolby can do anything better than what Kamara attempted to do against Leon Edwards, especially in the second fight. So yeah, I'm with you on that one. I think Leon and Trump are in for both winning their respected fights.

Yeah. Listen, I'm not saying that Colby doesn't have a path to victory because I truly believe that he does.

He does. He really does, yeah.

And when you look at Camara, who's been in the third fight, I do believe that getting knocked out in the second one played a massive factor. It did. He just wasn't himself, and he seemed more back to himself when he fought hands at. So I think if that one shot, and I'm not taking away from Leone's victory either, I've got to be careful. Because the UK fans, they love their champion. I'm rightly told- Yes, they should. I don't want to take away from his victory. Far from it. But I'm just saying that had a big impact the way that he knocked out Camara, who's been... He really did. Now I think Kobe is a little bit different. He's packaged the same way on paper, but I think the pace, I think the output. And I also think that with the stakes being so high, the fact that he is 35, 36, it's his third attempt at a title fight, I don't think he gets another one. I think you put all that together, I think it's going to be a tough fight, but I do believe more than likely, Leon pulls it off.

Well, and with Kobe's weaponized cardio, he could bring a level of fatigue to Leon that he had to deal with similarly to the first fight with Camara. I mean, look, he got the knockout. He got the final blow. But up until that point, it was one-way traffic for three rounds for Camara, Oostman. Aside from the first round, Camara pretty much manhandled him for three rounds until the knockout. But Kobe has enough cardio within him that he could push a pace on Leon Edwards to get that level of fatigue to where he could maybe make him struggle a little bit more. That's what he's best at. God damn it, hold on.

Twelve seconds later. Let me ask you this, Michael Chiesa, were you a man that got involved in a lot of street fights when you were younger?

I would say about average. I would say maybe average, maybe a little below. I was... I was a bully a little bit. I was a shrimp. So if I found another shrimp, then we would duel. But I wasn't really in a ton of fights.

Classic bullying tactics from Michael Chiesa. I could have guessed it. I could have guessed it. A man that lives in a log cabin, looks like a real man. Do you chop wood with an ax?

I do. I do chop wood with an ax. I do it pretty well. My teammate, Sam Cicillia, every year he comes up to my house because he goes to the lumberjack games, and he'll come up to my house and practice with his throwing ax. So we'll get out back.

Do you wear-Not.

With Litwood, but we'll throw the axes into targets.

Do you wear a plant shirt while you're doing it?

A flannel. I have a very nice flannel selection. And yeah, when I'm chopping wood.

You're trying to leave it as well. Do you drink a cup of coffee? Like, as you're looking out into your five acres?

In the mornings, yes. But before I chop wood, I drink beer. Safety first.

Of course. Why wouldn't you? Hold on. I'm trying to think of some of the stereotypes. Harrington and Bryan help me out with the stereotypes.

Do I wear... Do I wear suspenders?

For sure. For a Northern man, Northern Pacific.

Yeah.

Are you there, Harrington and Bryan?

Yeah, I'm trying to think. Do you do a whole lot of hard tack for breakfast?

What do you mean? I mean, Copenhagen and hard... Copenhagen and fried eggs is what I'm going for.

Hell, yeah, dude.

Hold on. What the hell is Copenhagen?

That would be chewing tobacco, Mr. Bisping. Throw in a lip ripper, go out there and chop some wood. That's what you got.

To do. Which is the most disgusting thing ever. The dip, that stuff.

I'm on the zines now. I've left the Copenhagen in the past. The Zins get the job done. They're great.

Okay. Anyway, the reason I asked about the street fights is because there's one man out there called Mike Tyson. As we know. He had a bit of a troublesome childhood, and it's still to this day. Even though he's Mr. Cool, he's Mr. Zen, and he's always high. We saw that thing recently on the plane where he lost his shit. And to be fair, you look around, you find out. And he definitely got what was coming to him on the Southwest flight. Mike Tyson had enough jumped up, pulled the crap out of him. Harrington, what's the update?

So his lawyer, there was no charges pressed against Tyson for the incident, but his lawyer is threatening to sue in civil court. He's approached Mike Tyson with a demand for $450,000, with the promise that a lawsuit will file quickly after if Tyson does not meet the demands. Tyson's lawyer came out and said, We have received the shakedown letter, and it will not work against us.

No. Well, I'd be interested to see are they going to get testimonies from people that saw the incident happen? For me, I don't even think it would take that because I think that this guy was drunk, he was out of line. And if you poke the bear, you're going to get the pause. That's just the way it goes. You can't give somebody a pass just because let's say Mike Tyson is an average human being that doesn't fight, and let's say that guy pisses him off by poking and prodded at him and that guy threats him, that guy's not going to do anything. But the fact it's Mike Tyson, it's like you almost went out there with the intention to do this.

That's actually a really good point. I do like that because I wonder where you were going with it. But you're absolutely right. There's Mike Tyson. Let's keep pissing him off. The guy was drunk. We've all seen the video. You're not all right, granted, turn your other cheek, ignore them, don't respond, all that type of stuff. But when you're just bloody, you've had a long day, you know what I mean? You're tired, you're on an evening fly, and you got some drunk guy. And granted, I think we'd like to think that most people wouldn't react that way. But you also do know that it's Mike Tyson. That's why you recognize him in the first place. You know some of the stuff that he said and done, he was the heavyweight champion of the world. The man's been very open about it. It's like Russell Brande, he was talking. You saw what happened with Russell Brande. All these women came out with these allegations, which went quiet, didn't it? It went quiet. But the police are now investigating it. I know nothing about what went down, but Russell Brands defense at the time, as I said, I wasn't in the room.

I don't know anything about it. But Russell Brands defense, and this is where the similarity comes in, I guess, or the comparison, should I say, is that he was like, Hold on a minute. All these women, they knew what I was like. I was very openly a sex addict and a drug addict. I was going out trying to have sex with every woman I could find. He'd say he's stall out. And as I said, I don't know any of the details. Mike Tyson is the same thing, do you know what I mean? Not with the sex, but with the violence, but very open that this is a very, very violent man and a man that is capable of doing some unsavory things. Yeah, and what do you do? You continue to push his buttons.

Yeah. Like I said, I think the guy was intentionally doing that. You're going out of your way to poke and prod at a guy that historically had a temper. So it's like, Is this a guy trying to get a cash grab, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, Yes, you know what you did. You went out there and I'm sure it's hard to piss Mike Tyson off, but in that type of setting, like you said, long day, night flight, you're exhausted, drunk guy, close quarters, can't get away from you, can't turn your cheek, you're in an airplane. There's only so many places you can go. I think the guy knew what he was doing and was intending for this to come of it.

Look, listen, I'm not condoning somebody losing the shit, right? At his age, at his age, he should have known better. I'm going to read that out just a second. I'm not condoning his violence, but he was provoked. Here's what Tyson had to say. He said, I'm usually good at these things. I guess it was just his number. I was wrong. It never should have happened. That's me back at my primitive child stages. I shouldn't have done that, but I was irritated. Irritated, and blind, tired, high, pissed off. Shit happens. And listen, he's right. And that guy, he's trying to shake him down for 450,000. Afterwards, the guy hard, had a mark on him. He was smiling. He was pretending that he was crying. I'm sure he was getting on with his life all fine. If it wasn't Mike Tyson, if he wasn't famous, if he didn't have some money, if he didn't have a way of squeezing some cash out of him, he wouldn't be trying to shake him down right now. He would have just got on with his day. If it was just, let's just say, someone that can handle themselves, but nobody knows who it is.

Let's say it was you on the plate. I'm joking. Yeah, let's.

Say.

It's me for sure. As I was saying that joke, just that it was too easy to not say. Let's just say it's just some average guy, but he can handle himself. He wouldn't be pursuing this like this. He would have just got on with it and say, You know what? Lesson learned. I shouldn't have been annoying that dickhead. The reality is nobody died, nobody had life-changing injuries. Okay, Tyson, he should also be a bit embarrassed of himself. He said that he was wrong. He certainly was. It is a shakedown.

Yeah, that's what it seems like to me, and that's unfortunate. That's the current state of society, right? Mike doesn't deserve that type of treatment, and it's a shame that there's so many people that would do things like that. Poke and prod at a guy that's been there, done that. For people like me and you, we see Mike Tyson, and I'm in awe. I'm thinking, This is the former heavyweight champion. This is Iron Mike. I grew up watching your highlight reel. But then there's other people that don't respect what he's done and look at it more as an opportunity, whether it's to gain monetary assets or if it's just to like, I want to talk shit and piss this guy off because I'm drunk and I'm an idiot. You know what I mean? It's a shame.

I've been there myself.

I'm sure you have.

I've had lawsuits myself about a situation. I'm not even sure if I can speak on it.

Yeah. Don't worry about lawsuits. I can't talk about either.

Yeah, no, but I don't give a shit. I'll talk about it. When I was champion, it was well documented at the time. Some guy, I was in the gym.

I.

Don't care. I was in the gym and I was lifting weights, and I was super sitting with kettlebell swings. I was doing my kettlebell swings. I went back to the bench press. And when I was doing that, someone removed the weight from one side of the bar. So when I lifted the bar and it was on this side, so I don't even see my hands, so I didn't realize there was no bar. So I weight on the end of the bar. When I lifted it up, obviously it was off-balance. The weight fell off. It landed on the floor. Almost landed on some innocent guy walking by, almost landed on his foot. And I was like, Oh, shit. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I look around, there's a bunch of kids. One of you guys take my weight off? They're like, Yeah. And I was trying to give them advice. I was a little irritated. I was like, What the hell are you doing? You don't do that in a gym, guys. I said, That's really dangerous. You don't leave weight on one side of a bar.

Certainly when it's not even your bar, you don't do that. The guy's like, Fuck you. Anyway, I lost my temp, but I didn't hit him. He got in my face. He said, I know where you live. I know where your family live and shit like that. In the end, I grabbed a hold of him. Anyway, turns out the whole thing was a setup, but still got paid out, but I shouldn't really talk about it. So if you're a media member on a shitty website, do me a favor. Don't report this. Because he ain't watching the podcast. Don't report on that, all right? Anyway, all right, guys, are you tired of wasting your money on testosterone booster products that simply don't work? I don't blame you. That is why our sponsor, Nugentics Total T, will let you try before you buy. You can get a complementary sample when you text 231, 231, and enter the keyword BELIEF. It's never been that easy. We've all got a phone, you're probably listening to me on your phone, just text 2-3-1, 2-3-1, enter the keyword, Believe, and it's going to come your way. What is going to come your way?

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Christmas is just spending at home just with the family. And then I'll get out and do a lot of snowboarding, travel around a little bit and chase the pal. You can talk bad about golf. You can talk bad about golf while you.

Want to. Chase the pal?

You got to respect the NAR, Michael, basically. You got to respect the NAR and get out there and shred some pal, my guy.

Oh my God. Ryan and Harrington, please, I need help. I need support right now.

I get it. I snowboard.

I understand. My man. Thank you.

Do you chase.

The pal?

I don't think I've ever said those words, but I.

Understand the words behind it. I'm going to chase the pow, baby. Come on, chase the storms. You know it.

You're really not shredding NAR.

Come on. Come on, Bissby.

I need someone to call up the people that made this terrible list of terms that douchebags use and put on Chase the pow. For anyone that's in England and does the snowboard and he's not a dick. He's talking about chasing the powder. The powder being the fresh powder. That's right. Fresh tracks. Oh, God. Chase the pow. How about you said you're a little snowboarding?

I got to use my slang terms. It makes me feel more hip. I feel like I fit in more with the snowboarding crowd. I'm like, I'm chasing pal, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you're chasing the pal. I should have said it in Tom Hanks's son's little accent. I should have.

Back in my day, I would chase the poonani, you know what I mean? Not the power. What's wrong with society?

Chasing the poonani. I like that. There's nothing I can say about that.

Anyway, how does it look like you were going to say something?

I was going to try to do the whole Tom Hanks patchwork talking about snowboarding and just do it. Do you.

Got.

It? Now we got to hear it.

Yeah. No backing out now, dude.

Right. So no me and my.

Friends, mom, we head to the mountain. Spread the pow-po.

Oh, my God.

That was.

That was good, but that was bad.

Yes, give me your best one. Rude man.

Spread to the pow. Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I don't even know if that's how you do it. I just shoot my shot.

We might get taken down on YouTube for this. We might get called racist, which is insane. What was I going to say? There was a snowboarding game that I used to love on the PlayStation back in the day. Cool Boarders or something.

Yeah, that's a good one. -yeah, that's a good one.

-was it Cool Boarders or something?

Yeah, they had that. And then there was SSX tricky.

That was tight. I liked SSX.

I'm going back. I'm talking like 95, 96 on the original PlayStation.

Definitely.

Cool boards. They made a snowboarding game.

Yeah, I know. They don't even make Tony Hawk anymore. Tony Hawk was the best game ever, dude.

I was all about to-Do you play a lot of games?

I know. I'm not much of a gamer. You're going to laugh at me. I'm just going to feed you some ammunition. But the only video game I have is my golf simulator in my garage where I'm working on my switch. That's usually where I film my podcast, but I'm working on my simulator right now.

I'm getting it all. So hold on. I'm trying to tell you, you're a complicated man with layers. One minute you're talking about standing there with your flannel and your beer and you're chewing tobacco and your ax and making your own firewood like a real goddamn American. And in the next sentence, you're on your golf simulator in your podcasting studio chasing the pal. Do you know what I mean? Which one are you, Michael, Kiesa?

I'm a Jack of all trades, Mike Disping. Sometimes I'm chasing pal. Sometimes I'm hitting golf balls. Sometimes I'm chopping wood. I'm a.

Man of theirs. You sound like a very interesting man. Old jobs aside. Good for you. Good for you. Good for you. No, we're always messing around on here. We're only joking. I should never have to explain that, but we don't know. I don't know if people are getting offended or people actually think I have a problem with you playing golf. All right. So thank you again to Michael, Kies, for jumping on me. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. It's great. No, good. We always end the show with a few questions. If you have one that you want to send in, please do so to bympod@gmail. Com. And if.

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Wow, that was nice. That was fast.

Oh, here's the man. He's good at a few things in life, and that is one of them.

We meant.

Memorizing sentences like a robot. You can do that. Delivering that sentence on time, not so much. And that's a long story if you watch the show, you know. Okay. Brian, what we.

Got, bro? All right. We had a couple of very brief questions here today. We have this first one from Connor Cartwright.

All right, this is Brian, Connor Cartwright out here. I'm wondering, who do you think is going to be next to the weight division champion? Anyways, have a good day.

What was that noise at the end? That was awesome.

That's what you call somebody from the north of England.

Okay, fair enough. My friends' mom used to call me a Scouser because I always wear Beatles shirts. She'd be like, Oh, you're a Scouser. I said, Yeah, sure.

Scousers don't wear Beatles shirts, and if they did, they'd be a right sit. But next double champ. Who do you think Michael has the ability to become the next double champ?

Man, for me, this is a bold one. I think it could be Sean O'Malley. I think if he can hold the band and wait title for a while, he's got the frame. You have to... Look at like, obviously we have Alex Paheda, who's our newest Double champ. But when I'm looking at the current state outside of him, I just think that he has the frame to go up a weight class if he wanted.

And I think-He's not a Double champ. He's a two-weight division champion.

Oh, yeah. What do you mean double champ?

A double champ means simultaneously holding the belts in two-way classes.

Yeah, okay, fair enough. I'll still go with Sean O'Malley. I think he's got the frame to go up to 145 pounds. If I think about a fight... In that time, I think Alex Volkanovsky will have moved on. Let's say he fights as Tiporia. I think he could be a guy like Iliad Tiporia. He's got the striking skill. I look at O'Malley with his frame being a guy that could go up to 145 pounds to have success.

You make a lot of sense and you use a lot of logic in your argument there or your reasoning. Yeah, it's not a crazy shout. Obviously, you got to get through Cheeto, Verner first.

Cheetob might be the cryptonight, but the way he attacks the legs, that's... It might be. -that's the styles make fights.

But you've actually got me excited to see a Volkinovsky versus Sean O'Maly fight. Who would have loved to see that? And as you say, maybe a year down the line if Volkinovsky has gone to 155 or whatever, because he's not young, is he? Maybe it's Iliya Toporia. I would love to see that as well.

Or even Max Halloway. Maybe Max Halloway is in the mix, too. You never know, Volkinovsky steps back. Max Halloway could be the guy to jump out front because he's beat everybody else and won the title again. So you never know.

I will say, Islam Makhev. Islam Makhev. He's already talking about going up to 170. I think he's got his hands full at 155 respectfully. As we just said, Sauroukhi and Olivera and Geiji. We've been there three really tough fights. But stylistically against Leon Edwards, he could give him problems. If it was Kolby, he could give him problems. I think Islam just being as good as he is. He has nothing to do with the matchups either side. It's just as good as he is.

I'm going to actually retract what I said and agree with you on that one. I don't know why that one didn't jump out front to me, but yeah, especially because that's been in the news lately. People have beenIslam, put it out there. Kobe went with it saying, When I beat Leon Edwards, I'm fighting Islam next. I don't think it would be at 155. I think it'd be Islam coming up. I retract my Sean O'Malley statement. I'm going to agree with you on this one, Mike. Definitely Islam, Mawkazh.

For sure. Yeah. Okay, great. Good. Thank you. What else we got, Brare?

All right, next question. I hope this question is as good as the last one because that guy was great.

Well, this one is missing a little bit of context in the beginning for you. Okay. But we forgot Jordan's name last time by we, I mean me. So this one is from Jordan.

Beware podcast. I've been there a.

Bunch of.

Times, and you guys forgot me. That is really not good. I'm sad. Anyway, Havinton, you can forget me as much as you want. I will love you forever. My question today is, what's the most craziest thing that you have done or anyone you know has done which landed in custody or jail? I got a bit of a situation, that's a funny situation. I might DM Harrington.

Because I DM him all the time.

But the love is obviously one-sided, which is... Anyway, Bisbin, you're a legend. Everyone loves you. Everyone respects you for all you've achieved. You're a god. I love you. Everyone loves you. If I could have one conversation with you, Bisbin, or play Xbox with you or something, my life would be complete. I would be so happy in myself. No motivation. I love you guys. I'm in tune. I love you the most though.

This being the god. Here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I'm going to do for Robb. That was quite-That.

Was very nice.

Thank you. That was unbelievable. Brian, I'm going to record a video message. I can't tell if that's a.

Bit or not.

I know. Is he fucking about or what? I don't know. No one gets that hard on ish about anyone. You know what I mean?

I've noticed people fuck with you on the show a little bit. I've seen the clips of the write out the name.

I was about to send him a personalized video message.

Don't let me influence your decision. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm sorry. It seemed genuine to me. It seemed genuine to me. He's made a fool out of me now. It seems genuine. What was the question? Crazy thing?

I don't know. You or a friend you know has done to get them.

Thrown at you. I mean, we've heard a lot of stories at my age 44. I could go an old day. I could blow you minds. I don't know why I thought of this. It's not the craziest, but it's worth a mention.

Yeah.

A guy in my hometown. Piggy. That's his name. I wasn't going to name him. He got out of prison and this cop lived in this house.

Yeah.

And he was by the pub. They had a few beers and he took a piss through his letterbox.

Oh, no.

And the cop grabbed his dick through the letterbox. Apparently, so the story goes and he was trying to get away and the guy had all of his dick. Well, there it is. That's not the craziest story you've ever heard, but that's the only one I'm going to give you because there's lots of other ones. Real quick, Michael Chiese, because it's that time of the day where we finish the show where I got to go. I'm going to take a pee, get on one knee with a mic called KSE.

You've got bars. Nice bars, Mike.

Bars is- I've got to flee.

Bars is slang for wrapping in case you didn't know. So you got mad bars, dude.

Mad bars. Mad bars. Mad bars. You got a mad story for the mad bars?

Yeah, so for me, the craziest story, I don't remember what got him in jail, but I'm sure you remember Drew Fickett. And after my second amateur fight, Dennis Halman called me and was like, You need to go pick Drew Fickett up from jail. And I'm a diehard fight fan, so I'm meeting Dennis Halman, Drew Fickett, these guys. And I'm like, Yeah, anything Dennis Halman tells me to do, I'm going to do it. He's like a Washington legend. And when... When I got to the jail to pick Drew Fickett up, he was so drunk and he had been in jail for like 24 hours. He was still pissed, like falling out of the police station, pinballing off the walls, making his way to the car. And it was just a wild car ride. And I'm not trying to put Drew Fickett on blast, but he publicly came out and talked about his drinking issues. Otherwise, I would not be putting this out there. But it was quite the experience being a big Fight fan Oh, I'm going to go pick up Drew Fickett from jail. And I got this crazy experience. It was one on the record.

That is what you call being very highly intoxicated, because typically the police did lock you up until you're sober up.

Yeah.

And you would expect 24 hours later, the man's definitely sober. He will have needed his Waterboy that day, Waterboy being the anti-hangover liquid medication. But that's the show, everybody. Yeah. Michael, Kiesa, an absolute pleasure, sir.

Thank you for the opportunity, Mike. I enjoyed it whether it's here or after the show, I always get a chance to chop it up with you, man. I really.

Appreciate you all. We had a good time in... Was it Paris?

It was Paris.

We had a good time in Paris. It's always good to see you on the road. We always have a good laugh. I love your energy. And thanks again for taking the time today. We really appreciate it. The believers appreciate it. And ladies and gentlemen, that is our show. We'll see you again on Thursday.