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You assumed wrongly, Mr. Brian McKay. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the award-winning, we've never won a single award. The very informative People Bitch About It, the one, the only Believe You Me podcast with the great Lionheart, Anthony Smith. Anthony, I know you're a tired man today.

Yeah, the East Coast shows are tough on us, man. We get done with the post-show at 2:45, and then you go back, you pack. My car pickup was at 4:30 for a 6:30 flight, right into wrestling and basketball tournament. So I was on no sleep yesterday.

Father of the year. People think, look at these guys on TV. They've got it easy. They have no idea. You don't just get yourself to the airport. You've got to wake up, then you got to have someone take your bags and put it in the car for you. Then when you sit in the back of the car, you've got to sometimes close your own door.

It's not easy. Sometimes you have to bring your own beverages in the car.

Now, tell me this. This is going to blow my mind. Did you have to bring your own suit?

I had to bring my own suit.

Wow. I did. Do you know what I mean? It's amazing. Turmoyal. But this is going to make you a better fighter in the long run. This adversity. Welcome to the show, everybody. Ufc 297. Great night, a fight at the weekend. Of course, it was all about that main event. Before we get into that, how was the crowd?

The crowd was incredible. They were really good. They were there early. They were loud. They hate Justin Trudeau. They were chantting Justin Trudeau the whole time. Yeah, The Canadian fighters had a tough night. They went two and seven. All the Canadian males lost. So that happens a lot of times in these countries, and then the crowd's dead the whole time after a couple of their hometown guys lose. But they would get right back up for the next one and then sad again and right back up happy. It was fun.

Well, you got to because when all your countrymen are losing, you know what I mean? Then there's more pressure on the next one, so you get up for it. But you know what? And I am not in any way talking any crap about John Anick, because John Anick is the man as a human being, as a professional, as a commentator, he's brilliant. He's the best. But Rebecca actually said a comment because John Anick pointed out, he said, So all the Canadian women have won tonight, but all the men have lost so far. And Rebecca goes, I bet he wouldn't say that if it was the other way around.

Oh, no.

And I just thought that was funny. Of course, there was nothing in that at all. But shout out John Anick, the absolute GOAT. Where should we start? We'll just Start with that main event. We've got to. We've got to. Juckie's DePlece, Sean Strickland went at it over five rounds. Of course, if you follow them on Instagram, the war is not over. They're still going on, but we're going to get into that in a bit. We'll talk about the fight, of Of course, Drikus, the new champion of the world. Before we break it down, what did you think, Anthony? When it went to the scorecards, I didn't know. I'll be honest, it was one of those. I had Sean winning the first. I thought he looked brilliant. Drikus in the second, it It was really close. He had some takedowns, but didn't do much with it, but he was pressuring third all day, four all day for Drikus. Five, I thought Strickland maybe could have got that one. It was a really close fight. I'll break it down why I don't have a problem with Drickers. But first of all, give me your take.

I'm catching a lot of shit for this, but I really thought Sean won four rounds. I really did. And that's not saying that it wasn't a close fight. I thought they were very, very close rounds. But at the end, I thought it was 4 to 1, Sean. I'm not mad that DuPlecey won. I don't think it's a robbery. I don't think any of that. But I did think that Sean Strickland remained the champion. I didn't put a lot of weight into the takedowns because he didn't do anything with them. He didn't control him for any amount of time. There was no damage. There was no submission. Position attempts. I just didn't see a lot with that, and especially with the new rules. Excuse me. Takedowns being position changes. I thought that maybe... I think Strickland was so dominant in the first. I think sometimes you look at the next couple of rounds, specifically the second. I see a lot of people gave DuPlecey the second, but I thought that he just looked a lot better in the second. So sometimes I think that can skew your view and say, wow, he did a lot better that round.

I think he won that round. Maybe he just did better, and it's just closer. But I don't have any problem with DuPlecey getting the win. When you keep fights that close, they can go either way.

Yeah. Well, I'm glad because we've got a difference of opinion, so it's good. It makes for interesting conversation. Again, very close. I honestly didn't know who was going to get it, and I don't have a problem. I don't have an issue with the scoring at all. And congrats to both of them, actually, on a great hard fought fight. But I definitely do think Steukeland lost three and four, might have lost two, maybe. And I think the thing was the three Ds is how they score the fight. You know this, dominance, damage, and duration. And then after that, they start taking in lesser qualities, like octagon control, aggression, and things like that. And Sean always fights behind that jab. And it's a beautiful jab, and it's laser-accurate. It's powerful. It bust up the face of Drickies-DuPlecey, of course. But Drickies was throwing bigger, heavier shots. I mean, those head kicks in the second round that he was getting through with, the body kicks. Sean did a great job of checking a lot of the leg kicks. But I think when it is close and one guy is going forward, backing the other man up, swinging big shots, overhand rights, they didn't all connect.

A few did, though. Certainly the head kicks connected on a couple of occasions. Sean took them well. I think that visual, and certainly he's pushing the pace, he's being the aggressor, he's controlling the octagon. Yeah, he got a couple of takedowns. I agree. He didn't do shit with them. So they're not worth much, if anything, to be honest. But when you put it all together and you're conflicted as to who won the round, those smaller, minor little things come into play. So I'll be honest, though, as I said, when they were calling it out, I had no idea who they were going to say.

I I think I'm on the opposite side of those smaller details. I've seen, and I was watching, and again, I'm watching really, really, really closely, almost to where I'm sometimes maybe I don't pay attention to the entire round as a whole. I'm looking at the individual little... Like the transitions and the little tiny exchanges. So sometimes maybe I do lose track of how many times that happened over a round. So my view is absolutely There's a chance that it is skewed. But I looked at DuPlece throwing really, really big, and Strickland always sliding in these little shovel uppercuts or these little jabs or these little tight hooks and taking glancing shots off the arm and rolling away from it. And to me, I thought he was winning those exchanges. But again, we're talking razor close differences here. You look at those exchanges and maybe he takes the big glancing blow, but it moves his body a little bit and his body reacts to it differently. And I'm seeing Strickland just death by a thousand little cuts with all those jabs. And it just looked like he was landing more efficiently. The bigger shots definitely belong to DuPlece, but I just thought there were so many more of...

Especially in the first round, I thought Strickland looked magical in there. He looked really, really composed and I think a lot of questions were, was he going to be too emotional? I thought he answered that right away in the first round. Three and four were the four for sure, DuPlece, one. Three, I thought it was really close. I thought one and five were clearly Strickland, and I thought he won two and three.

Yeah. Well, I think the thing is as well for Strickland, I mean, the jab was great. But what I would suggest, and for me, but in a fight like that, he does fight behind his jab, and he's conservative with all his other weapons. Drickus was throwing a variety of shots. And Drickus has his own weird unique style of rhythm because you could say it's sloppy. Ian Gary did. We'll get to that in a little bit. And Sean, that jab is beautiful, but he doesn't follow up with it too much. Yeah, of course, he throws that right-hand on occasion. But I think when you start getting into a really close fight like that, you can't allow yourself to back up as much. And I think he's got to add to the skillset or the toolbox that he's using. Of course, he's got the skills. He knows how to throw combinations. He knows how to throw head kicks. And I'm sure when he's on the tie pads, he looks magical. You know what I mean? But the jab is the primary weapon. On the numbers, I was just looking for him then, but I couldn't find it.

I think on a few of the rounds, Sean's ever so slightly ahead. Round one, he was leaps and bounds ahead, but some of the other ones, he's just a little bit ahead. But how do you equate the damage? Dominic Cruise, Saturday, was saying, Well, look at the face of Dreykis. But the thing is as well, it's not always damage that you can see. A jab to the face, granted, we saw the damage on Dreyas' face. Sean didn't have too much. All right, granted, as the fire war on, he had a cut. But in round two, up until that cut happened, they didn't have a mark on him. But some of those head kicks landed pretty flush. So there's damage there. Just because it's not visible, just because it's not visible, doesn't mean the opponent doesn't feel it. It doesn't mean your bell just hasn't been wrong. It doesn't mean you haven't got ringing in your ears and you're like, Holy shit, I don't want to take another one of You know what I mean? So it's not when you talk damage, and it's not just visible damage. It's damage that you... And I guess if you've got a rock solid chin, no problem to me.

Well, it still scores. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, no, listen, it was a close find. It was a close find. Let's throw it to the panel. Go ahead.

Dean Thomas asked me a really interesting question Saturday night, or maybe it was Brett. Brett Akamodo, I think, asked me the question. Not on air, even, really. And I wanted to ask you, and then I'd give my answer. What would you change about Sean Strickland's game? Because he does find himself in these really, really close fights like this because he maybe doesn't have that next level, that next thing, not that there's not a next level.

You are precisely correct, and it's a good question by ESPN's, Brett Acomodo, shout out Brett, because I was talking about this in one of my videos recently. That's what he needs because he He has one game plan. He doesn't go for takedowns. He's not the most wildly aggressive on the field. Of course, he's had some great moments when he stopped Abusmaga Madoff, beautiful stoppage against Israel Adesan. You dropped him in the first and walked him down. But A lot of the time in these close fights like Jared Kanan here, like that one against Drikus, and that's what I was alluding to a second ago, you have your plan A. And if that's working, if you're teeing off and you can't miss with that jab and you're getting through with the right here and there and the front kicks to the stomach and all the rest of it, and you're keeping him at bay and you're frustrating him, and you're clearly winning the fight. That's great. But when it really starts to get confusing for the judges, you've got to have a plan B, even a plan C. I just think he needs to go forward more, and I think he just needs to Use that jab to set up for the things.

They call the jab the key to the door. That's the entry point to a lot of other combinations. You can jab, you can throw an inside kick, you can jab, you can throw a high kick, a right-hand, the left hook, anything you want. But I just think he needs to put more numbers together, to put it simply, basically.

That's essentially what I said. I guess I got even more specific. If they could work it... Because the way his style is, he is very straight up and down. His feet are close together, which gives him the ability to move quickly and counter and lean back, and he gages his distance. But even something that I've been working lately or Mark really started putting into my game a while ago was really sitting down on my counters. So if he could still have that long still be elusive, but every once in a while ground himself in the middle of these comments because he does counter very well, but there's not a lot on them because he's always in motion and moving and slipping. But every once in a while, if he just He grounded himself and sat down on something hard and then got back to what he was doing, what he normally does. I think that would make a world of difference for him.

And for Drickies as well. It's not like he doesn't have nothing that he needs to change. There was a few things that he was, in my humble Well, it's a good opinion as analyst, we're not talking shit about the fight. It was a great fight. Well done to both men.

These are the same conversations we have off air.

And these will be conversations if you were in a gym, what your coach might say and things like that. And believe it or not, before you start in the goddamn comment section, we know what the fuck we're talking about. For Drikus, if you're fighting somebody like Sean Strickland, that when you watch him, he fights behind the jab, and it's a beautiful jab. You've got to have a defense for the jab. You've got to drill that. The obvious defensive one is a block, the parry, head movement, and footwork. We weren't seeing... But the feint, mainly, draw that jab out of Strickland. Make it look like you're going to go get into the jab, and then when you're bringing the arm back, that's when you go in. And when he was going in, a lot of the time, the first couple of punches that he would throw, whatever they were, an overhand, right, a left hook, whatever combo it was. Strickland a lot of time would get that jab in, right? But you got to go again. He needed to have the initial attack. And then it's what my boxing coach used to call phases of attack.

You need a second phase. The initial phase is just your set up to get in, to get that initial jab from Strickland and then go again, back him up against the fence and then let rip with the hands. So Drickus, I mean, listen, it was a great fight. Yeah, they were-I'm not insulting or critiquing. I am critiquing.

Yeah, we're just talking about what we've seen and our views from our experience level. The only thing I would add with Dupleixi, honestly, it was my only critique I had of him even on all the pre-shows. He's either defending or he's striking. He doesn't counter a lot. He's defending, defending, defending. And then when he's done or whoever is throwing strikes at him is done, then he goes. But if you start to go in the middle of that, he'll stop and defend, which is not bad. But the next level of evolution in your striking to continue to grow to a high level is to be able to do both things at the same time, which is like, I don't know, Volkanovski does it better than anybody. Just being able to strike, defend in those transitions and counter before they're done. But it's harder for big guys to do because some of those inside situations are very dangerous. You look at the significant strike records, none of those are held by people above 185 pounds. It's hard to do because you punch someone that many times at the size of us, you're going to kill people.

Yeah. I'll tell you what, though, the wrestling of Drickers really, really impressed me. Sean's not an easy man to take down like that. For the most part, when he was fresh, he got Sean down almost every time. I think it was six out of nine take down attempts. Equally, Sean was so good at just banging up to his feet, just immediately getting back to his feet. Very, very impressive. The take-down didn't do much.

It's something Robert Whitaker couldn't do.

Or take Drickers down?

Well, no, to get up like that. Oh, yeah. The first take-down, he held him for 19 seconds. Robert Whitaker couldn't up in 19 seconds. So I know that sometimes we look at this, you hear people. I see what people say online when we're doing our research. Sean Strickland was just a fly-by-night champion, and he's not really that good. He did something that Robert Whittaker couldn't do. We all know where we hold Robert Whittaker in terms of his abilities and skills at the middleweight division.

When I used to spot Strickland, he is tough to hit. He's very, very tough to hit. And he has a weird... It's awkward when you're in there. You know what I mean? When you watch, you might not think it doesn't look all that, but I'm telling you, when you're in there, it's a weird rhythm. It's offbeat time, and he does a very good job of blocking with his forearms, stays out of range. Yeah, listen, he'll be back. And he might be back against Drigger DePlecey, Because if you haven't seen it, the war of words is continuing. We have a delivery for one, Anthony Smith. Amazon.

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Yeah, I could do with coffee as well. I could do with people shutting up out there. I don't know what's going on. So if you Look here. This is what Sean posted. And he said, Sean actually said for those audio listeners, I didn't take the coward's way out and tell the doctor I couldn't see and got a no contest. I didn't tell the doctor I couldn't see and get a no contest. The only reason why you took a round from me is because I couldn't see. I won that fight. The world knows I won that fight. The belt they gave you will never make you a champion. Enjoy. They had to stick through muscle to get it close. Thank you to everyone for your support. Anyway, and then Drick is coming back and he says, Well, why don't you cry about it again? And I got to say, that's a bloody good response from Drickis. Call it what you will. I know there's a lot of Sean Strickland fan boys watching this and you're like, You're a prick, this been the talking shit. He's trying to undermine his victory. But first of all, give me your thoughts on the cut and what Sean is saying.

I can't argue with him. It It was very clear during the fight that the blood was bothering him. The cut was affecting him. As soon as the cut happened, he wasn't... And Drickus was smart. He attacked more from that side when Sean started, kept wiping the blood out of his eye. You try really, really hard as a fighter to not wipe the blood away because you don't want to draw attention to it from either the referee, the doctor on the outside, the commission. But you definitely don't want your opponent knowing that it's bothering you. A guy that's just tough and smart and is crafty is struggling to know the same thing that I just said, to continue to keep having to wipe it over and over and over. It seemed to me like it was bothering him.

Yeah, and I don't disagree with what you're saying. But these things happen. They happen. And that's my point. I'm not ripping on Sean, but you go out there, it's a contact sport. There's wrestling and stuff involved. Shit like that happens. Didn't say anything on the night. And then on Monday morning, he's probably a bit annoyed by it. He probably sees that video and that ignites a bit of passion inside him and he's pissed off. And I understand that, but it happens a lot. When I fought Rockhold the first time, he headbutt me, boom. And I've only got one eye. I got one eye, not even two eyes. And you just got to... It's a shitty situation. You know what I mean?

The cut that I got in my last fight started with a headbut. It got opened up with punches as we went on. But I don't even know that I've even said that until right now. It just started with a headbut. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, exactly. That's the point what Listen, you go in there, you throw in everything, but the kitchen sink, sometimes heads clash. I thought it was a right-hand from Drick. It's one of his best shots that opened that. That does look like it was that, but on the night, I remember thinking it was an overhand right. But Let's have another look. Let's have a closer look here.

Yeah, the right-hand right there.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Anyway, whatever, bro. It's all good, mate. It's all good. Look, listen, at the end of the day, well done. Listen, Sean, I thought when he walked out there, I thought he looked really, really nervous, because the difference is, Sean always in the past, he's always been very honest with his feelings and feels like he doesn't even belong in this situation. And I'm sure a lot of people can resonate with that. But when you become the champion, like going down there to Australia and fight Israel and Assania, there's no pressure on you. It's just another payday. You're going down there, you get a chance to show up in the world, you get paid a shit ton of money for doing it, and you never know, you might come out the other side The champion of the goddamn world. It's a great situation, but the situation completely changes. When you're going somewhere to another country and you're on the plane and then Drikus De Plas is there and he's beating 20 people, 19 stoppages, and you're like, Shit, this guy can take it all away. The pressure is unbelievable. When I fought Rockhold, I didn't give a fuck.

I was like, Let's go out there and swing, maybe. Let's see what happens. But then, as I say, it changes. All of a sudden, you got fame, you got fortune, you become champion of the world, and you want to hang on to that. But it certainly looks like it wasn't nerves. It was just super, super, super dialed in. And he should be proud of himself, right? Everyone else in the UFC got smoked by the guy, got finished. Sean made it a very, very competitive fight. What do you think's next?

Man, I don't know. Probably the Izzy fight. I would imagine Izzy versus Dupilacy. What's next for Strickland? I don't know. I think a Hamza-Chimay fight would be pretty cool.

Why would you do that? Why would you say, Right, We're going to throw you in against Dreykers. We're going to take your title off you. It's going to be a Razor close fight. You're going to get headbutted. You're going to get on the wrong end of a decision, according to Anthony Smith and other people online. And then we're going to throw you in against Hamza at Jimmy Ebb. I'm not saying he can't beat him, by the way, but just to give you another really tough match up.

Because Dana already said that the rematch is probably not likely going to happen, right? I don't think it's controversial. There's people on both sides of it, but no one's screaming for it, apparently. So if you want to control your own destiny, if you're Sean Strickland, okay, I'll give me the Boogie man, and then you don't have a choice. You go out there and you beat Hamza Chamaev, you're going to fight for the title next. It doesn't matter who you are. You get a debuter in the UFC right now. Debut guy takes a random fight. For some reason, they just want to give him Hamza Chamaev. He wins that fight. He fights for the title. You control your own destiny.

I got a devil's avocado for you, babe. Can you just turn that light to me? Just turn it up ever so slightly.

I'm saying the opposite. I'm looking really red. Are you red?

There we go. I got a little bit more light on me. No, that's better, babe. That's better. Thank you very much. What do you mean you're saying the opposite?

Because typically, remember, I talk about the home run mentality. You got to get back, you got to take your time, you got to rebuild, you got to work your way back up. But man, I just feel like for a guy like Sean Strickland, maybe sometimes that rule doesn't apply.

Allow me to present you on a silver platter, a devil's avocado. You just called room service. You went down. I said, Yeah, don't worry, buddy. We're sending it up. Direct prompt, boom. Ding, ding. That's the door. A guy walks in, gets awkward in the room. Gets super awkward, doesn't it? When the room service guy, an old woman comes in, and you just got out of the shower and you're like, Oh, right. Just don't leave it and get out and just build me. Tip? No tip. If you put the tape on because these bastard hotels, they'll get you with the tip.

And they will?

I know. The tip's already on, but then I end up tipping again because I don't read They just stand there.

God damn it.

Here's the devil's avocado that you just ordered. Okay. Sean Strickland. Okay. No, first of all, Drick is goes and fights easy. It'd be gangs if that happens at UFC 300.

That would be.

Or international fight week, because apparently, Colin is not fighting in either of those. We'll get to that in a bit. Did you see what Dana said about that? I did. Yeah. It was not exciting. So we'll do Dreykis, Israel Adesanya, and one of those events. In the meantime, Sean Strickland rematches Jared Kananier, because Jared Kananier is the only one, realistically, right now with another claim at the belt. So you have Sean allow him to get a chance to ride the wrongs. I know you thought that Strickland won that. It was a really close fight. It was just like the Drickis fight, super, super, super, razor close. So it gives him an ability to go out there, ride that wrong, get win, beat one of the top contenders, eradicate that loss, make some improvements to his style, and then fight again, the winner of Drickies or Rizy, whoever that is, because he's got history with both. I mean, Mick Maynard, watch your back, bro, because I'm coming for your job.

But then what? Okay. So what if you're Sean Strickland, though, and all that happens?

You're sending the avocado back?

I'm sending it back real quick. Hold on.

This is an avocado shit.

What happens if Just say that Duplece, say he loses to Izzy. And Sean is in this dust up with Kananier. And in the meantime, then Hamza comes back and they slide Hamza right in with Izzy.

Well, imagine this. You step outside, you cross the street, and you get hit by a car. Should have would have, could have. You know what I mean? There's a million different ways you can slice life. You can say, Now, hold on. What about this? No, no, no. And also, because Hamza, let's be honest, if you're going I'm going to fight Sean versus Hamza, or Drickies is going to fight him, or whatever it is. Hamza is a big draw, man. He does big numbers. He does, right? People, if you don't realize Hamza- You probably want to be champion when you fight him. You want to fight that guy when you're champion because you're going to get big time. Anytime I do a video on Hamza on my YouTube, boom, numbers. Do you know what I mean? People like hearing about boars. But let's throw it to the panel. Brian Harrington. Welcome to the show. What What do you think? Who did you guys have winning Saturday night?

I thought they were going to give it to Sean at the end of the fight, to be honest, because it was super close, and you got to beat the champ.

Fair enough. I had rounds two Three, three, and four for Dreyas. I looked up the stats. Round two is the only round where Dreyas landed more strikes than Sean Strickland. Three and four were super Razor close, but four is the one where that damage was caused, where the eye started leaking. So, yeah, three was an absolute coin flip, but I had it going to Dreyas. I think that's the one that made it a split decision, too. The one judge who had it for Strickland gave that third round to him.

Can I just address this, and you'll know what I mean by this, Anthony, and you're absolutely right in what you said, Brian, this expression, you got to beat the champ to take the belt from them. It's a term that gets used a lot, and you're absolutely right. And it's like, what as fans, we want to see. If it's where it's close, the champ should get to keep But that's not how it is. It's just not. The 10-point must system, the scoring criteria is still exactly the same. They do not modify it for a title fight. So whilst that is an expression that does get used, and I understand the reasoning behind that, when it's all said and done and the way they come to a conclusion, it is not factored in.

Yeah, I get it, but it feels like it is sometimes.

Well, it's not. It should have been.

Dana even said that in the post-fight press conference. He used that exact same term. I thought Strickland won, and I'm one of these guys who believe that you got to really take it from the champ. I don't know that I believe that so much, if I'm being honest. You hear it all the time, and I get the idea of it. But if you're a contender, I just need to be... If I'm 0.2 Two seconds ahead of him. That's enough for me to get a win.

It's certainly a casual's take. I understand that for sure.

You're calling Dana White a casual?

No, not really. No, but he's from boxing. You know what I mean? No, I mean, in boxing, it's like- Dana, did you even know what MMA is? That's not what I mean.

I know.

I do believe, though, that sometimes if you get to a round that's just so close that you can't really... I don't know who won that round. Their striking was close, the damage was close, the output is close. There was no takedowns. There was no takedown attempts. You got one guy that's the champion of the world and one guy that's not. I don't really have too much of an issue. I'll be like, Well, if it's coin flipped, give it to the champ.

Yeah. No, listen, I have no problem with that. And if that was written down and implemented, I wouldn't have an issue. But you got to go with what is implemented. You've been itching to say something I can tell.

No, not at all.

Nothing. I got a question. Harrington, I have a question.

What's up?

It has nothing to do with what we were talking about, though. Is that okay? Good.

I like this already.

Every show we do, you were in a different room in your house. I don't understand. Sometimes you're in the living room, and you can see Alex walking back and forth randomly. Sometimes you're in the kitchen. And now it looks to me like you're in the baby's room. But this is not the same place you were in when we first started, because before I could clothes in the closet behind you, and now I can't see them. So you've even moved since we've been recording. So what is going on here? Why do we move around so much?

Well, last week-He's very proud.

He's very proud because he used to be homeless, and now he has so many rooms.. He's like, Bro, today we're coming from the laundry.

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Anthony, you tell me, do you want to hear about a Brazilian medical student that went out partying and was shot in the head and didn't even realize it? Yes. We're not talking It's not Sports Illustrated. Do you want to hear about a Florida anger management specialist? You pick it.

Give me a guy that got shot in the head.

I can't read. I've asked Rebecca for my contact lens. Everything's blurry as fuck. Go ahead, Harrington.

Yeah, it's a 21-year-old, a Brazilian medical student. He was out on holiday with his buddies. They were out at the beach having a good time, and he felt something. He assumed that he had been hit in the head by a rock. Somebody was pulling some sick prank. Yeah, that was that. He went back to his hotel room. He had a doctor with him who helped dress the wound or whatever. He went back to his hotel room, showered, kept on partying for the next three days. And to the vacation, as he's heading home, he starts feeling like his arm is spazzing out like crazy. So he's like, All right, I got to go to the hospital, see what this whole thing's about. They bring him in, they take a look. It turns out that was not a rock he got hit in the head He got shot in the head and a bullet was lodged in his brain for days while he was out drinking and having a good old time. Yeah, Docs were able to take it out, and he's going to make a full recovery.

He's going to make a full recovery. Nicely laid out there, Harrington. I just want to say this, though. See the point I made earlier? All damage is not visible. This guy didn't realize he had any damage. He's been shot in the head. Do you know what I mean? The judges need to take that stuff into consideration.

I have an odd take on Oh, have you also been shot in the head and not realized it? No, but I get it. I could see how that's possible. If it's a smaller caliber bullet and you're pretty drunk, and it goes into a place that doesn't immediately discombobulate you or paralyze you or you're unconscious, it might feel like you just got hit in the head. I don't know. If you're pretty drunk, I've been in some wild parties before. When I was young, I was partying. I was like three, four day benders. I get it. I'm not checking my head. We're going to keep on partying. Listen, listen. Just figure it out later.

I know all about the three day benders. When I was younger, I was a nightmare, okay? But I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if I got shot in the head, and I don't care what size gun, Mr Smith, Brian.

Harrington said he went to a doctor to help clean it up, which I feel like that guy's license needs to be revoked because here's the image. It's censored, obviously, but you don't look a little deeper into that head wound.

You know what I'm saying? I wish you could see the uncensored one.

I could probably find it.

Well, maybe not on the show, but I'd love to see it.

I'll text it to you.

It wasn't a doctor that he went to go see. It was a fellow medical student who was a little bit further along in the course than he was, and that's the guy.

They're both medical students?

Yeah.

It's like these guys are going to an 11-year-old.

He's like, You're fine. You've just been shot in the head. Just put a bit of bloody cotton or something on it. Put a bandaid on it. You'll be fine.

What they're just getting it in the club, and he's like, What the hell? No one heard a gunshot? Put a little tussing on it. Oh, speaking of gunshots. Go ahead. I'm all over the place today, Mike. I'm sorry, you're going to have to keep me on track.

No, no, no, you're good, bro.

So Friday night, I went out and had dinner. I was hanging out with Tate a little bit, and my wife calls me freaking out. Why? She called me. I missed it. She calls back again. I miss it. And I look at my phone, I got two missed calls, and she's calling, so I'm like, Oh, shit. So I go outside where I can hear her, and she said, Check the cameras. I think there's gunshots going off here at the house. She thought someone was outside shooting.

No shit.

Temperatures are really cold and freezing, right? So then I listen to the cameras. I'm like, Oh, wow. Yeah, that's definitely a gunshot. So then she starts checking the rest of the cameras. Turns out they were sodas exploding inside. We have a beer fridge with and sodas and beer in the garage. It was so cold that the drinks were exploding inside of the refrigerator. I mean, these cans are like, shredded. They looked like grenades were going off. It was insane. That just made me think about it.

And let's be honest, It's not like you haven't got a history of this stuff happening at your house. Right. Ptsd kicking in. You know what I mean? Even though you could get shot in the head and not give a damn and still carry on partying. Yeah. Well, glad to hear that no one No good choice going on.

I'm just taking this thing all over the place, Mike.

No, please. Well, that's what we meant to do. Do we really want to sit here and study the in-depth analysis of this, guys? I tell you what, though, to be fair, that is the best excuse for having a headache the next day. I always wake up, I'm like, Oh, God, I'm going I'm in a terrible headache. I'm hung over. I feel like I've been shot in the head. Turns out this guy's actually been shot in the head.

Does it make you wish we go work these events and you come back and you got a little bit of a hangover, a headache, and your wife's like, When we weren't out drinking all night, I wish I had a bullet in my head. She would never say shit to me ever again. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I got shot last night? That'd be great.

100% because you feel totally vindicated because when I was out doing a film, Red Sonia, comes out this year. Keep an eye out for that one. My back was killing. And I've talked about it. I'm on my back, so on my back, so on. In between takes, they had to bring me a chair to sit on, and everyone was making fun at them. And they actually wrote on the chair. They called it the Diva Chair because just standing was so painful. It really was. Doing anything, action scenes where I was fine, but actually just standing still was so painful. But everyone talked shit. And then I got back and they got the imaging done. I had a broken back in two places. It's the same thing. I was so happy to send a copy of the X-ray and go, Fuck you, dickheads. Diva chair. Kiss my ass. I had a broken back.

Now I want all these apologies in writing.

Yes. All right. So, Harrington and Brian, real quick, jump on. Next fight, Drickus, and next fight for Strickland. Me and Anthony have a difference of opinion.

Oh, man. I mean, the Hamzat-Strickland fight, you made a great point. It's like, you put him up against anybody, whoever. If you can beat him, you give them a shot. Otherwise, Hamzat seems to be in the running for the next shot.

I don't know. I mean, that feels like way too big of a jump for Hamzaat, honestly. I know that the Usman fight was supposed to be number one contender, but how are you fighting the guy who just lost a razor-thin decision for the heavyweight title when the best middleweight that you've beaten is John Phillips, the GM3? That feels like too big of a step up in competition. I love the... I personally love the Kananier fight, and I do think Izzy has to be next for Dreyas. The storyline is there. They had the face off the showdown. They were supposed to fight already. Everything is lined up there. So that one's an absolute no-brainer.

Excuse me, I'm just going to take a call. What's that? You ordered another devil's avocado. I've got one more for you, though. Have you seen this? Alex Pereira is saying, What was it? One more dance at 185.. Drick is DuPlecey, Alex Pereira. Now, Anthony, let me ask you this. Drick is DuPlecey, Alex Pereira. Of course, great fight, right? It gives Pereira a chance to reclaim his 185 pound belt. It gives Drick is a chance to go up to 205 if he wins that and become a two-way division champion and all the rest of it. Not saying this is what he's doing, but it would also allow him to not yet fight Magamed and Kaleya. That would solve that problem, too.

I was thinking the opposite. That is just such a good way to mess with Izzy's summer plans. And that feels like what Pereira has put on this planet to is just ruin Israel at a summer plan.

I don't believe that. I think Pereira really likes Izzy. I got the correct translation of his conversation. Yeah, I About Izzy after the fight, and it came off like being an asshole. But what he's trying to do is he's trying to give Israel the same opportunity that Israel gave him. Izzy's in a down and out spot. He's just not in a great place in his career. He's having some tough times. So he's trying to give Israel an opportunity to build himself back up like Izzy gave to him, essentially, given this resurgence of his career. So I don't think he wants to mess with Izzy. No. I think he's funny. I think he's funny, and he likes joking around. I think he has a great sense of humor, and it comes off because he looks like a serial killer, and he doesn't laugh a whole lot. It'd be like every joke I told you guys, I just said it straight-face and looked angry.

You do.

I think that's I think he wants to help Izzy. I don't think he wants to do any harm for... Of course, they fight, but I don't think he wants bad things for Izzy.

As you said, a good person. I mean, he was in Sean Strickland's corner at the weekend. I saw a lot of people, they loved it. Every time they were looking at the corner in between rounds, you could just see Alex Pereira's head just popping up over the top of the fence. That was nice. That was a classic move by Alex Pereira there. I don't think they'll do that. I think Pereira and Magga Medanker, all Jamal Hill Anthony, Jamal, any updates on that guy?

No, I haven't heard from him. No, he went dark, which means he's working. So that's good for him.

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And just being that exhausted in round three. At the end, she could hardly get off the ground. Don't get me wrong, Raquel was great. She punished her. The boxing was awesome. The coaches were screaming at Raquel, Stop clinching. On the feet, you're busting her up. But every time She wouldn't control her feet. She would fall into the clinch. She would land some shots and then clinch again. When our Sylvia was trying to get that Ninja choke because she choked out Holly home with it. And it's like when you connect with the right-hand, that feels good and you fall in love with it. Every single time she was for the same choke. Would have been amazing if she got it again, but she did it. She got tired. Raquel took over, and there was no question when it came to the scorecards.

No, not at all. In both their corners, we're begging them to stay out of the clinch. Both of them wanted them So I thought that was really interesting that they both wanted them to not fight in the clinch and that their coaches kept saying that the clinch is benefiting the other person. That's what they want. But really, that person's coaches were saying no, too. So I thought that was weird. It just looked like a lack of experience to me for Bueno Silva. I don't know, she didn't pace herself well enough for five rounds. I don't know, she just didn't look like she was real polished and had a I don't know, a hard and fast game plan. She looked good in the first round. She was really attacking the leg. She took the back.

She almost finished her a couple of times.

Yeah. I wonder if she just gassed herself trying to get the finish thinking that she was closer, which is an inexperienced thing. That's a lack of experience and knowledge in those situations. I think she'll learn from it. She'll be better. John Anick had a really good point that one of those ladies is a finished product, essentially. Not saying that Rocale Pennington can't continue to get better and grow and add skills and stuff to her game because we all can, no matter what point of our careers we're in. But essentially, we know she is what she is. But Buenos Aires got a lot of room to grow, so I don't think she's going anywhere. I think she'll continue to get better. I was really happy to see Pennington win the title just as a veteran myself and guy that's been around a long time. I know what it takes. I know the grind, the journey. It's a hard road. She's had some She's had some tough things happen with some injuries. It was just a feel good moment. I'm happy for her.

Yeah, that's exactly where I was going to go now. Ten years in the company, fighting a lot of greats on there. She's been in the ring multiple champions, Holly Holm, Jemaine Duran Demay. Who else? Amanda Nunez, of course. Amanda Nunez, of course. So, yeah, after 10 years sticking it out. At one point, I'm sure Dana said once, at one point, she was She's her favorite fighter. It is nice. She's 35 years old, coming towards the end of her athletic career. Yeah, beautiful to see. Question is, what's next? Because, of course, Giuliana Penya, right? She should be next up on deck without question. But Amanda Nunez, the lioness, came out of the weekend, and she feels like she might still have more to give. What are we saying? If you're the matchmaker, if you're McMeanard, if you're ordering devil's avocado from room service right now, what are you ordering? Are you ordering a Giuliana Penna, or are you ordering an Amanda Nunez?

I really thought... Amanda Nunez drove four days from South Florida with two kids all the way to Canada to watch this fight. I was like, You don't do that for no reason. And so I have this really- Four days? Four days. It took four days. Why? I don't know. Because she got the money to fly. I don't just fly.

Can't say babies on planes these days, though. You get soaked out the window. Right.

No, I have this real cool video on my phone of Bruce Buffer's doing the announcement. And so on one side, I take the video and it's Raquel Pennington, and it pans over to Buenos Aires. And then I look straight directly across the octagon. And Amanda Nunez is in Dana's section, arms on the rail, leaning over, looking... I don't know. She's like the mother, overseeing the division. I just kept imagining someone's going to win. It's going to be an awesome fight. And then she walks in the octagon and grabs that microphone from Dana Corman and says, I'll see you at UFC 300. That's what I envisioned happening, but it didn't. But if it was up to me, I'd love to see him in a newness come back.

Yeah, absolutely. And congratulations again to Mikhel Pennington. And Giuliana Payneia probably is going to be the next person, but you never know, she might throw a little curve ball in there. The lioness, of course, I am talking about. Mike Malotte didn't get the job done, went up against Neil Magne. Magne getting it done for the veterans, for the older boys. He needed that one as well to stay relevant in the organization. That sounds like a harsh summary, but he's been losing a few. The Ian Gary fight wasn't too great. Oh, real quick. Ian Gary, you see the shit he was talking to Sean Strickland? Oh, yeah. Did we have that video, Brian? Can we play that? Because it is... I'm sorry, I know that I just had a major ADD moment there, but he is talking shit about Strickland. And listen, always fair in love and more, right? You live by the sword, you die by the sword. What did you make of those comments, though?

Am I the only one that thought that that's not the first time he watched that fight? You mean to tell me that this fight happened and you didn't watch it? Come on. You just shirt off the next day, only watching the highlights. I don't know. And you didn't know who the winner, you live in this space that we live in, you didn't scroll Instagram or Twitter for 13 seconds at any point in time from then to then and didn't know who won the fight. I don't know.

Highlights of the Sean Strickland and DuPleci fight. Because I hope Sean gets sparked and There is no way I ever would have bet against DuPleci losing this fight, considering he mauled Robert Whitaker. And Sean Strickland isn't half the fighter Robert Whitaker is. Too sloppy boxing. Look, swinging. Look at this. It starts curving in instead of down the middle. The fucking state of this. Zero technique, just slugging it out now. Oh my God. I feel like I'm watching too much of this fight.

Oh my God.

Oh, my dear Jesus Christ.

If I ever have a fight like that, please tell me to retire.

He's a super confident guy. He's a pretty accomplished striker himself. So at times, I'm sure it does look sloppy. Both those guys have really awkward, different-looking styles. They don't look like normal striking exchanges because they're very different types of fighters. They're not your typical one, two, slip the crop. That's not their game. I don't know that anybody with any analysis in their game would pick him to beat either one of those guys, though. But I get it. I understand it. I understand his mentality.

Look, listen, he's right to a certain degree. That clip there that he watched and the last 30 seconds of that fight. Yeah, it was sloppy stuff.

They've been doing this shit for 25 minutes.

Exactly. They're trying to get the win. They're trying to dig deep. They're trying to give us those glasses back. They're trying to just get the final little morsels out of their system. They haven't got much left to give. They're utterly destroyed. They just want to fall over on the ground. They're trying their best, and they're swinging, and it's sloppy, and it's horrible. It is, and it's not technical. The gift of vision is back. But he's They're exhausted. I was just looking up when you were talking thinking, has he and Gary ever gone five rounds? He has in cage warriors against Jack Grant, but it is a little different going five rounds in cage warriors as to what it is in a championship fight in the UFC. But hey, listen, if I play to him, he's got every right in the world to talk all the shit that he wants. Neil Magne, Mike Mallott, real quick, 30 seconds, go.

Yeah. When he got into the octagon, the last couple of fights, Neil hasn't looked super present. I I know he's had a lot going on in his personal life, which probably is affecting him, but he had a different look. He gave me like a... We met eyes, and I gave him a nod, and he just looked very present in the moment. Mike Malott looked a little bit small. If I'm being honest, I was surprised at how small he was for the weight class once he was in there next to Neil. But Neil was losing. He was getting beat to the punch. His legs were battered. He was having a tough time. Mike Mallott looked like a young kid that just got a little bit in over his head, got a a little bit tired, and let a guy like Neil Magne back in. If you don't shut the door on Neil Magne, he'll shut it himself.

And that's why you got to finish fights, because certainly with somebody like Neil Magne. And of course, you don't want to let it go to the judge's scorecards. And no fight is ever doing that. I remember when Jalton Almeida defeated Derrick Lewis. He took him down every round, smothered him, led on top of him in mount, but wasn't really trying to finish the fight. I mean, Dominic Cruz were having a difference of opinion. I was like, he needs to try and finish this fight. And I was like, well, he's controlling, he's winning, he's doing everything he is. He's clearly winning the fight. But that just shows right there. Certainly when you're going to talk about someone like Derrick Lewis, I'm not trying to bring up an on fire, but it's a good example. Derrick Lewis is the knockout king in the UFC. Every time the fight starts or a round starts, he's back on the feet and you can smother him. That's why if you get an opportunity to finish somebody, you've got to do it because Neil Magnin, there's no quitting that guy. He gets the job done, gets the takedown against the fence, takes him out.

Boom, boom, boom. Beautiful moment. That will be a learning experience for Mike Malott. He's a great fighter. That was a big platform for him. I'm sure the pressure got to him. He's the only Canadian on the main card. He's being hyped. He's 10 and one. They're all finishes. He's not a young guy. He's 32, so he's not a baby. But still, he's a baby in terms of those big fight feels.

He's in experience there. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, he's in experience there. I think he'll be just fine. To him, it feels like the end of the world right now. I think those of us in the know are like, Yeah, he'll figure that out. We probably won't see that happen again.

Yeah. Henry Bohn? Yes, sir. I have a question in presence. Dana was talking to, I'm talking about number seven here, Sportsnet Canada. And what was he saying about the big boys?

So he was saying that John Jones' recovery is going well. He said, Jones, Steepay, summer is what it's looking like. He also said that Tom Aspinal will likely defend his belt before then because Aspinal wants to establish that he is, in fact, the best heavyweight on the planet, regardless of what those two are doing.

Hold on. Someone's ordering a third devil avocado. Alex Pereira goes up to heavyweight. Jones and Steepay going down in summer. I don't know why. For some reason, I thought that would be delayed longer, just simply because of how bad the injury was. But that's nice to see. That'll go down. If you're matchmaking Tom Aspinal, who are you putting him in there with? And do you think that'll be UFC 300 or international fire week? Or do we all need to just stop talking about those two fight cards now?

Yeah, I don't know when. Man, who's the heavyweights that are up there right now? Curtis Blades, he doesn't have a fight coming up, correct?

Cyril Ghan.

Cyril Ghan. It's impossible. Cyril Gohn does not want to fight. Well, I guess he does now. He does now. For the longest time, he didn't want to fight big time. But yeah, I could see Cyril Ghan. I could see.

Blades does have a fight. It's against Jalton Almeida, UFC 299.

Man, the winner of that, maybe.

Winner of that or Cyril Ghan-Harrington, what was Dana White saying? Because he was asked about Conor McGregor saying, Fighting International Fireweek. And what was he saying? Because he basically said it's not They're not announcing that yet.

Yeah, so it was a two-part, right? So he said during that Sportsnet Canada interview that Connor was going to come back at some point this year and that it was possibly going to be against Michael Chandler, Depending on how all that shakes out, they then asked him to clarify at the post-fight presser whether or not it was going to be Chandler, and if it was going to be that June date that McGregor had said. Dana said, No, it's not. He said, When McGregor is ready to fight, we will make an official announcement because that's how we do business.

Well, that's disappointing.

For Chandler.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was meaning. Is it a surprise? How long do you wait? How long do you wait?

Why do you... Do you think... Listen, Dana Lassie hold things close to his chest, and you want to make an announcement, and maybe Maybe McGregor shouldn't have said anything there. Who knows? Maybe his training isn't going as well as what he thought. Maybe there could be a million bloody different reasons. Maybe he's just not in the gym yet and needs more time. I still don't think if you're Chandler, you let it go. I still don't.

Yeah, not yet.

But at some point, you have to walk away.

You do. But if it's not Chandler, just say that he does let it go, and then Connor all of a sudden wants come back. Who would they fight? Who would Connor fight?

Justin Gagey.

I don't know.

Jorge Masvidal. I would love that.

Masvidal. But what if he I just don't... Chandler is the guy right now, but everyone else, of course, they want to come back in, and everyone would love to fight a Connor McGregor. But a lot of the other people that are big names are in big situations right now. You got Max Hollowey versus Justin Gatti. You got Islam is the champion, but Conor is going to need a win. Guys like the Sourukians and Benilles, I don't think they're big enough names to draw Connor in. Chandler might have Connor by the balls a little bit.

How so?

Because I think Connor needs Chandler as bad as Chandler wants Connor.

Because Chandler is hittable, he's like the perfect opponent.

I think he's the perfect opponent with a big enough name value that's available right now.

Big enough name value and where it's a risk, the risk reward is good enough because Connor doesn't want to come back and get beaten. Well, I hope it does go down. I hope it does because I was looking forward to it. Listen, McGregor brings it. He does. He brings excitement, big fight fields. You know what I mean? Vegas goes crazy, and it makes the sport an exciting place. And I did think this recently, I haven't seen McGregor on Twitter as much, and I thought that's because he must be in the gym. He's not enjoying himself. Listen, if you're not training for a fight, God, judge the man. He's enjoying himself. I'd be on the Lamborghini up, squashed out my face, doing voice notes to everyone. You know what I mean? I would. But he's not fighting. But now I thought he was training. Anyway, Anthony, you're a father. You love your children. I'm a father. I care for my children. I'm joking, obviously. California now are bringing in an incentive. I don't know if this has been passed to Harrington or not, but they're basically going to bribe students to do well at school. There's going to be a monetary incentive to get better grades, to have better attendance, and all the rest of it.

Now, I don't know the details of it, and Harrington can shed some more light. I was just at the gym before, and it was on the treadmill, and it was on, and there was the I was captioning on the sub tile, so I was just reading along with it. So I said, Harrington, just look this up. But my initial thought, and I haven't looked into it yet, is that for crying out loud, governments should not be having to step in to do the job that a parent should do. You know what I'm saying? They should not be having to bribe them. Harrington, what are the details of? Because I am blind going into this one.

So the idea is it's mostly to help lower income families and and lower income children. So if you do qualify for being from a lower income household, you can get up to $500 per year. You just go to this thing. Any student in the state of California can do this. You sign up, you go to this thing. Depending on what your parents' economic status is, you could be eligible for up to $1,500. If you are homeless and still attending school, if you're in foster care and still attending school- If you're homeless and attending school, I mean, get out the rain.

I'd be going to school every goddamn day. Right..

Yeah, so that's the idea, is that essentially, if you sign up for this program starting from kindergarten, and You keep clocking that in. You should have enough in this account by the time you graduate high school to be able to afford in-state tuition at pretty much any university. That's the thinking there is we're to incentivize you to not only go to school and graduate, but once you have graduated, you can, in theory, debt-free, get yourself a college education and maybe raise your standard of living.

Government, subsidy of college is the reason why the price is out of control. The more people the government pays to go to college, the more expensive it is for regular people to go to college who can pay their own way.

Oh, so you just- That's the actual Ryan?

What's that?

Is that factual?

Yes.

You just have to look at the rate of student loans from the government going up and tuition prices going up since the '70s.

There's a direct correlation over the past, whatever, 40, 50 years.

It sounds to me like you don't want lower income kids to really bust their ass to go to school and get paid and then go get college degrees. That's what I heard.

That is correct. I'm 100% for lower income families getting as much help as they need Certainly from the wealthiest government on planet Earth, right? Because UK governments give way too much, and our economy is nowhere near the size of the UK. However, I do feel like I don't know. That's the parents' job. It's soft parenting. How the... I mean, don't get me wrong, it's great, it's good. But shouldn't the parents be making sure the kids do well at school? Shouldn't the parents be make sure that they attend every single day. Do you know what I mean? I don't know. There's something in there that I don't like, and I can't quite put my finger on it.

I think I'm with you, but I think we're looking at it from the position in life that we're in right now. If you or any of your friends or me or whoever, if you've seen that happening in our situation, I'd have a big problem with it. But sometimes you go to these lower income families, these inner city places, these kids that maybe don't have those influences in their life, the opportunities that maybe we can afford to our family and the people that we hang out with. So that part of it doesn't make me feel so bad about it, actually. You got I don't know, a single working mother with a couple of kids, and she's doing the best that she can. She got this kid that's doing well in school. He's going to graduate. He's going every single year and passing all his classes. I don't have any problem with giving them a little bit of an opportunity once they... Because it doesn't sound like they're going to be able to use that money for anything. It goes to an account and they can use it for college. I don't mind. In those situations, I see that.

I have no problem. I have no issue with that, but they could just dress it up a better way. Do you know what I'm saying? Because apparently, Harrington never said this part. Regardless of your financial situation, some people are going to get paid as well. Again, I've got nothing against people getting a little bit of spending money, and I'm sure as a kid, that money is going to come in But as I say, I just feel like it's taking the responsibility off the parents to be good fucking parents, because that's the problem right now. And I know I sound like an old man ranting, but the younger generation have no goddamn respect. Do you know what I mean? You see the amount of crimes and these flash mobs and running into stores and shit like this. And now they're going to get... If you go to school, we'll pay you. When I was younger, if I didn't go to school, I got a clip around the front of my ear. I got my dad's belt whipping me. I got the garden cane. I got the shit kick out.

The cops used to drive around and pick us up when we would cut school.

Now, you're going to get paid to make sure you go.

Lucas actually is eligible. How about you go?

Is he?

Yeah, he can get 175 bucks a year.

Brian just added that bit out. No, but that's... It is. It's bullshit, man. It's bullshit. I really think it is. But Brian, I would love to know your take on it a little bit further because you do not like government governmental decisions?

No. Well, so yeah, government money has really made universities expand beyond what they could pay for. So now, tuition has to go higher and higher. So it really is like, it's a weird situation because it's like, not everybody needs a college degree. We do need tradesmen and all this other shit. And now, with the government subsidizing college degrees, everybody's just going for not necessarily infrastructure jobs, as you can see, with our airplanes and our bridges falling apart and our roads are all fucked up. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of people are staying away from that, and that's not necessarily good for society either. I don't necessarily think everybody needs to go to college and get a degree to go make something of themselves.

Everybody doesn't need to go to college. And remember, we had a disagreement. Jamal Hill and I had a difference of opinion. And I wasn't saying everyone needs to go to college. College isn't for for everybody, but a certain amount of people that want to go off and do a certain type of thing, you got to get a college education. But I just think that, as you say, it just creates this system, this cycle, and it gets worse and worse.

And you have all these people with useless degrees that are now hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

Gender studies.For.

Example, yeah.Art. How many people with art majors are going to go run the Louver? One. One. What are you competing for? You're competing for jobs that don't exist. A lot of people are. They're going into these industries for nothing. And then they end up flipping burgers in and out.

A lot of young girls go there and do psychology.

And then they're on OnlyFans.

Yeah. Well, not even that. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, What are you doing? Why are you studying psychology? I know you. You're not going to become a psychologist. You're just not. You need a psychologist. You need a psychiatrist. What the are you going to talk?

I like a good In-N-Out burger, though, so we need them, too.

And that's a solid career path. I think that's 150K if you're a manager these days or something like that.

That's a good living.

That's a very good living.

Well, maybe not in Colorado or California.

Bro, it's not. Anyway, let's talk about something we do know about. Harrington, notes, sorry, news. What have we got? Anything in your life? Any fire rumors, Anthony? Anything like that? No. Is that not even being looked at yet?

No, I'm looking for something exciting. I want something exciting. I don't want to rush into something. So I haven't heard anything. I ran into Mick Friday and Saturday, I've seen him at the fight. And he didn't bring it up, and I didn't bring it up. We just talked about life, jiu-jitsu a little bit. But no, I just want something exciting, something that... Not even scary, just I'm like, Oh, that'd be fun. I want that reaction. That sounds like a lot of fun.

You heard it here, guys. Anthony Smith versus Con McGregor, UFC 300.

That'd be fun.

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We're not fishing. They hand you a rod, you do that, and then a fish gets on the end of it. Technically, that's fishing, but they do everything for you, and they're probably coming in the water and stuff. You know what I mean? And you're out in the ocean, there's fish galore. But never once going down to a river or a lake, have we ever caught anything? Saturday, we're going up to Lake Gregory in the San Bernardino Mountains. This is the plan. We're going to take a picnic. We're going to take some snacks and shit like that, and we are going to catch some fish, hopefully.

That'd be fun. I love fishing. It's too cold to be doing any fishing here. I don't really have any plans. We got a basketball tournament Friday and Saturday during the day, but then I think Sunday I might go hunting, so I'll probably go do some hunting. I haven't been able to get out as much as I typically like to, so I'll probably do that. Got to fill the freezer. So I'm looking for a deer that's got some jerky with him. That'd be nice.

Regarding the weather, it's 76 degrees here on Saturday, so I'm like, That's a beautiful day. So that's why we're going to go fishing. But I was going to ask you, what are you hunting? You're hunting deer?

Deer, yeah.

With a gun?

Yes.

How close do you get to the deer?

I'll drop anything inside of 250 yards.

And how long do you think it'll take you to catch a deer?

I don't know. That's the fun part. You just hang out and just look around. Honestly, I know that hunters are always looked at like crazy people by a lot folks, but the worst part of hunting is after you take the shot. I actually have a lot of fun getting up early in the morning and the anticipation and the sneaking into my blind or wherever I'm at, and then just sitting and watching the sun come up and you watch all the animals go by and all the deer that you pass on the smaller one. So you were watching them out there, frolicing, doing their thing. All the work happens after you shoot it. That's the worst part. And then you got to go in. You got to do all the work and get it out and drag it and field dress it and all that stuff. So I don't take a lot of shots, to be honest with you. I pass on a lot of deer.

That sounds beautiful, though, what you just described, getting up early in the morning, going out there, experiencing nature. I mean, that sounds amazing. It really does. You just got to end with a bit of cold, extreme violence. You're going to shoot one in the head. Maybe the deer will go party for two days afterwards, and then it will fall down dead.

I don't shoot a lot of I know people that... Like families, they'll shoot six, seven deer a year. There's a lot of times where I won't shoot at all. It's got to mean something.

Do you wear a deer stalker hat?

A deer stalker? Deerhacker hat? What's that?

Yeah. Sherlock Holmes, bro. You don't know? You're one of those hats. They call them a deer stalker hat. You don't wear a deer stalker? No. You don't stalk those deers?

No. I just wait to-How quiet do you have to be?

Because I think This would be my problem. I'm too impatient.

Okay, before, I used to hunt in tree stands. So you have to be super quiet because you're up high above them and there's nothing around you to muffle the sound. But I don't hunt out of tree stands anymore for the most part, largely because I have a trailer blind that's heated with windows. So now I'm enclosed, so I don't have to be... I mean, a lot of times I sit in there, I text him with my wife, watching the deer hanging out, take lots of pictures. So I'm just hanging out.

Anthony, your little nature, your bird spotter, you're out there, you're masking as a hunter, but realistically, you're enjoying the-Yeah, I'm just happy to be there. The flavor and the sense of the wild flowers.

Yeah, I'm just happy to be there. I'll have to send you some of the pictures I took from the last time. I don't know if you're into nature pictures, but it's-Oh, of course.

When we do the ice bath, when it was sunny, that's our favorite bit. We warm up, we recharge with the power of the sun, the vitamin D, we look at the birds. We do. We love it. It's great. We've gone very California. Frank was inducted into the Hall of Fame Saturday night. I mean, the man deserves it. There's not much of a conversation there. I'm sure DC even agrees with that. What was the reaction? What was the reaction from the crowd?

They were happy. They were happy, and Franky was shocked at it. I thought he knew, but apparently he didn't have any idea. I don't know. So it was cool. Everyone stood up the entire arena gave him a standing ovation. I thought that was super cool. He's got so many highlights. You could have done a 30-minute Hall of Fame induction package with that. It was really, really cool. It was a feel good moment. If Frank Jäger can't get in, nobody gets in, I guess. I don't know.

Four for the Bell, three different weight classes. Was the champion at light weight, of course. Took our B. J. Penn trilogies with B. J. Gray Maynard. He fought Josie Aldo. He beat Charles Oliveira. The people on his resume, unbelievable. Congratulations to Frank Jäger. And then lastly, Tatiana Suarez. She's out of her fight. Who was she meant to be fighting? She had a good fight. Who was it?.

She was supposed to fight- This is your domain. Lemosh. Lemosh. She was supposed to fight Lemosh. That one, man. Then they put in instead of... Because Tatiana was hurt, now she's fighting Mackenzie Dern. Which I don't like that much. I just feel like... Because Mackenzie... She just fought... Who did McKenzie just fight?

Madison Square Garden. Who was it? Yes. When we were there. She got dropped a few times.

Andrage. Yeah. She has a tough fight with Andrage. She just... I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes the prize that people get for things sucks. You want to see her be able to build herself back up. Let's get Let her work on her striking. Let's get some defense in. It seems like personally, she's going through some turmoil. So her life maybe is a little bit out of sorts, and she's not real dialed in to her schedule with training and having the kid and this other stuff she's got going on. It's none of my business, but she talked about it, so I bring it up. And then instead of being able to work her way back in, get her into a fight that's super competitive, that is safe for her to work through some shit, she gets Lemo. And Lemo, she's a goddamn killer.

This is the guy that says that strictly should fire Hamza. She may have next.

That's fair. That's what I mean. I went against my own rule there, but this is tough. I wanted to see Mackenzie bounce back because I think she's got a lot of... I don't know. I think she got a lot of skills, and I think she can do really, really well.

She does. She's a great girl as well. And then, of course, final bit of news. Looks like we could be getting, well, down until He's hoping for it. Darren Till versus Mike Perry, Mike Perry, bare-knuckle fighting championships. I'd love to see that. That's a fight long overdue. I just want to see Darren Till getting back in there.

Yeah. I'd like to see Darren just back fighting. I think the whole entire combat sports community is better when Darren Till is fighting. I love when he's in a great place. When he's on, he's on. He's one of the best in the world when he's on.

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So today, our first question here is from Mark O'Regan, and this one by far has the best production value.

Hey, Mark from London here. With Dupilce getting his belt, do we think we need to revise Darren Till's final few fights? Tyron Woodley, ex-champion. Jorge Masvidal, BMF champion. Derek Bronson, he was on a full-fight winch stick at the time, and his previous loss was to Israel Adesanya. Then he lost to Robert Wittekun, the reaper and interim champion. And who was Darren Till's final fight? The new champion, Dupleci. Everyone writing off Darren Till. Darren, come back, mate. You've just lost to a bunch of champions. Well, thank you very much for the question. That's what I've been saying all along. And certainly that last loss to Dupleci has aged very, very well. Raza close fight with Robert Whittaker. I mean, I don't need to say it. He just went through it all. That's what I've been saying for years. And I still think Darren's got a lot left in the tank to come back. I mean, we spoke to him. We interviewed him when he was deciding to leave the UFC. And he hasn't done anything yet. I haven't spoken to him either. We used to keep in contact. We just haven't shared a text or anything.

A couple of polite hellos or whatever, but I have no I dare what he's doing, so I wish him well. But yeah, what do you think of that?

I totally agree. We've talked about that. I think you've been Darren Till's biggest supporter and cheerleader in defending him because he's been in there with so many tough, tough guys and just been in so many tough fights, but everybody's good. He's not been beaten by anybody bad. So I totally agree, and you should check in on him.

I think I texted him recently, but I just haven't seen him another proper sit down, a proper conversation. You know what I mean? As friends, a little hello, how are you doing, mate? Or respond to his Instagram story or some shit like that, which is always something wild and crazy. But yeah, shout out, Darren Till. Come back to the sport, mate. We need you. And I would I love to see him and Mike Perry, two great guys, two good fighters, bringing it on. Come on.

Brian. All right. So next one we have is from Luis Hernández about judging.

Hey, what's up, guys? I watched the fight last night. I think Strickland won. I don't think he got robbed. Duplecey did just enough to win it. But what do you guys think about implementing five judges for Championship fights in the UFC? You have four judges seated throughout the octagon. And that fifth judge, you have him off-site watching with the athletic commission, someone from the UFC, and with the officiating crew there. And that way you get that It's just another perspective from watching the fight. This is something that is done in professional baseball, professional soccer, football, and I believe the NBA. What do you guys think about implementing an off-site official for Championship fights, at least? Or maybe we can test it out at the apex or something. I don't know. What do you guys think? Let me know.

Well, first of all, thank you for the question. He's asking, what do we think about five judges I'm going to go on better. Six judges. Let's do six. Six? It's a joke. It's a joke. Have you seen the film? There's something about Mary. Have you seen that?

A long time A long time ago. I actually have seen that one a long time ago.

Six Minute Abs. I've got a business idea. You want to come in on it? What is it? Four Minute Abs. What do you mean four Minute Abs? Were you seeing Six Minute Abs? I'm going to do Four Minute Abs. Have you seen? Step into my office. Why? Because you're fired. Whatever.

Anyways. No, I haven't. I've seen it a long time ago.

Anyone that's seen it, they know what I'm talking about right now. It's a very well-known film. Harrington or Brian, I would have expected a little bit of backup there. We're going to talk about this later. In fact, Brian Harrington, step into in my office.

I'm sorry.

Because you're fucking fired.

Something about Mary is not one of my favorite movies. I haven't seen it too many times.

That is hilarious.

Yeah, dude. Harlem Williams, dude, he's the man. You can't even get a sweat. He's the guy. He's the 6 Minute Abs guy. You can't even get a sweat in five minutes. That's crazy. It's ridiculous. 6 Minute, though. That's the sweet spot.

Yeah, exactly. That's it. That's the quote I was looking for. Thank you very much. Do you know what? Or believer there that's sent in the question, he might be onto something. Because we have three judges, and it's a system that's been implemented for a long time. The judges don't get to see the strike out. The judges don't get to see the instant replay. The judges don't get to see what's going on between the corner. I'm not necessarily against the people judging the outcome of these fights that ultimately determines whose effort and career is going to be paid better. You make all that sacrifice in a fight, and then the wrong decision is awful. You know what I mean? You got to make money. The outcome is so important. We know this. So why can't we arm those people with better information to come to the right conclusion?

Right. Give them more information. I think the argument to that would be that a lot of people don't believe that they're smart enough to do their job as they're directed now. If we give them more information, that they're going to struggle with that, with more input. I'm not one of those people, but that would be the argument. I've also always thought we should have two referees, always. When you go So when you're going to the NCAA wrestling finals, that- Three referees. When you watch wrestling at the D1 level, when they're wrestling in the finals, there's always two referees on the map, always, to get different angles.

They have the review official now in most states, I believe. They have obviously the referee in the octagon, watching everything. And if there's something that maybe they couldn't see, they stop it, time out, and then they go and look at the tape and the review official looks at it. For example, could have said that that was a clash of heads with Strickland and DuPlece. I don't know if it was. I'm not saying that, but he could have spotted that and maybe got the judges to discount that damage, perhaps.

And they do try to do that during the fight, though, because when Khalil-Yeah, but the judges don't get told, though. When Khalil, when he came in and he came into the clench, and he banged right on my eyebrow, and I was cut, and I remember, like wiping in my blood. And the referee said, That was from a headbut. And I just nodded like, I agreed like, Yeah, I know. So then he starts going to the referees or to the judges and saying, The cut was caused by an inadvertent accidental headbut. So they didn't stop the fight. But a lot of times, you'll see Herb Dean, a cut will happen from a punch, and he'll say it was caused from a punch and let the judges know that.

Yeah, and that's beautiful, refereeing So well done to Mark Smith for that. Just finally on this end, let's talk about this because we're talking about judging a refereeing. And if you're still with us at the end of the show, thank you all for being here. Arnold Allen, Mothsa of the Web, first fighter of the night on the pay-per-view main card. Mawfsa Yawv Loewev looked tremendous. He got the job done. I was guttied for Arnold Allen. He's such a nice guy, and he's a great fighter. I thought Arnold looked spectacular. I thought he looked really good. He looked smooth. The take down the fence, the scrambling, the gramby rolls, the ability to get back to the feet, the boxing, the footwork. He looked smooth. He looked World Championship caliber. He was just beaten by a very good opponent that It was just a little bit better on Saturday night, sadly.

It went downhill when he got dropped with that jab. He struggled after that.

You're absolutely right. He did. He started getting a little bit more wild and a little bit more desperate there. Now, you're right, Anthony. That's a good take there. But I wanted to talk about the headlock situation. Remember when referee, Mark Goddard stepped in? And again, I want to clarify, I'm not talking shit about Mark Goddard. He's an old friend of mine, and he's a brilliant referee. What was your thoughts on that whole situation there?

In real-time, because it happened right in front of me, in real-time, they looked clean the first two or three because it looked like he was lifting him up. I was sitting right by Mavsar's corner, and they flicked out right away. But then when they watched the replay, they're like, he's playing that game. They weren't as upset after seeing the replay as they were initially. So it did look like he was lifting it up and throwing the knee at the same time. I think the third or fourth one was clearly a downed opponent. But Canada, the athletic commission, didn't adopt the new rule where it has to be weight bearing. If that's in Vegas or one of the other- That's legal. That's a legal shot. Yeah, that's a legal shot in most commissions right now.

That's a legal shot or that's illegal shot?

That is a legal shot.

Yeah. And you know what? Listen, we know this. The referees come backstage and they break down precisely, sometimes ad nauseam, what the rules are in this territory that you're in. And they do a very good job of that. But even still in the heat at the moment, it's hard for the fighters to know Different states, different areas, different countries. There's a slight difference in the rules. You know what I mean? It should just be across the board. If you can do that, you can do that. If you can't do that, you can't do that. And I do I believe that Arnold Allen has a really good momentum in that moment. It was stopped. God, I probably did the right thing there. But that could have been, you never know, the beginning of a finish for Arnold Allen.

Yeah, it was a big moment. I thought Arnold Allen did a great job battling back, though. He got dropped. He had a tough rest of that round. I know that Dana said it sucked the air out of the arena. I actually thought it was a pretty good fight. I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, he said it was boring, but I actually thought it was a Really, really good fight. But I'm a nerd. I'm into the details. And Mopsar is like, he's amazing in some of those transitions and the way that he shoots his timing on his takedowns. I thought they both looked really, really good. I really enjoyed that fight, actually. So I felt that when Dennis said that.

No, I enjoyed it as well, obviously. I know Arnold personally. He's a great guy. Really humble. Here's a situation for you. How would you feel I don't know what year this is going to take place in the future. 125, Mohamed Mekhaiv is champion. I'll come back to 35. 145, Mawsa Yvluhev is champion. 55, Islam Mahachet is champion. We need a 170. 185, Hamza Chimev is champ. Shabqat. Shabqat, 170, champ. 205, Mahsa Chimev is champ. 205, Mahsa Chimev is 4,5, Magomed Ancalyev. And then someone at Headway. Everybody is from Daghistan.

It's possible.

It's really possible. Stop signing them.

Yeah, get rid of them. Send them back over to M1. Get them out of here.

They're Russian Muslims. They train too hard, man. They're too dedicated.

Yeah, they're too goddamn good.

They're too goddamn good. Anyway, that's it. That's the show. Thanks for watching. We'll be back on Monday.