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And Anthony Lionheart Smith.

All right, PYM, we are back. I'm at home. Anthony, where are you these days?

I'm in Denver. I got this apartment for the rest of this training camp, so I just got moved into it. And I forgot my microphone, so I'm sure it's echoing in this empty out apartment.

It's echoing. You sound very feminine. I don't know if it's like...

Maybe that's just my voice. Maybe the microphone just makes me sound confident.

It gives you an extra boom.

Yeah. I'm going to start talking about this.

Just raise your voice and speak a little more manly, please. How have you been, man? I feel like, because we didn't manage to get a show in last week. I feel like it's been a lifetime. What have you been doing? So you're just still just training, getting ready for the Johnnie Walker fight?

Yeah, I'm just busting my ass, man. I'm getting punched in the back of my black eyes. I'm getting the shit kicked out of me. The typical start to every training camp, it's rough. I'm tired, I'm beat up. Excuse me, I thought I was in pretty good shape leading into this one. But altitude here in Denver is a whole different deal. So it's going rough.

Yeah, well, it's supposed to. That's the idea. If you're going through a training camp and you're beating everyone's ass and you're the man and all the rest of it, then you're not getting pushed. That's the hard part. Getting to the fight is the easy... Sorry, the fighting is the easy part. They're getting ready for it. They're bloody repetitive nonsense. They're getting up early. They're running, they're dieting, they're sparring, time after time.

These guys are already in shape.

That's what sucks. Justin Jacobi lives here. He's in shape. Cody Brandage lives here. He's in shape. Rob Wilkinson, he's the PFL Light heavyweight champion. He's getting ready for Diego Santos. He's been here for a while, so he's peaking and getting ready to fight. I don't know. I imagine a herd of buffalo running down the Prairie and you're staying on the outside trying to jump in and keep up, but you're going to get banged up no matter what. I'm trying to figure it out, but it's a rough one.

A herd of buffalo. So Anthony Smith is getting stampeded on. Wild Colorado Buffalo.

That's how I feel.

Now I was going to say, I've said this before, the fight is the easy part because that's when you walk out and there's 20,000 people and they're all cheering and screaming your name, or maybe they're booing you, whatever the case is. There's energy, there's emotion, you get in the recognition, the fame, the money, all the rest of it. No one gives a damn on a cold Tuesday morning when you're getting out of bed and it's freezing cold and your body is aching from head to toe and you got to go in the gym and do it time after time and over and over again. There's no crowd. There's no one cheering you on. There's no one giving you checks. That's the hard part of getting through a training camp is what separates the boys from the men and the people that can stick to that and turn up, stick to that routine and have the discipline to do that. And the mental toughness. People talk all the time about, you see it, don't you? I forget who it is. They talk about the Marines, and of course, the training process for the Marines, of course, it's really tough.

And I'm not taking anything away from them and saying that this is tougher. But it's a similar thing. Going through a training camp and sticking to the schedule is not an easy thing to do.

No, it's not. And it takes precedence over everything else that you do. So that's.

Why I bring in fucking microphones for the podcast.

Like bringing microphones and everything. It's all you think about, which is fine. That's my job. That's what I signed up to do. But you're right, the fight is the easy part. The fight at the very worst is 25 minutes. I can do anything for 25 minutes. I got this shit to do for the next eight weeks. I can do anything for 25 minutes. You get paid, like you said, everybody's cheering or booing or whatever. And you go in, at worst, it's going to suck for 25 minutes and then you're done.

What is the hardest part of the camp right now in terms of preparing for Johnny Walker? Obviously a big, tall, rangy opponent, wild, a little unorthodox, but I think he's trying to tame that side of him. What is the biggest challenge for you personally when it comes up, so when going up against Johnny Walker?

I don't want to pull the curtain. I don't even care. Making sure that I'm not getting too tall because he is a little bit wild and crazy. So I have a tendency sometimes to back and pull out and I'll throw something. And then when someone's countering, I'm so used to being long and being the longer guy that I can get away with it. So just constantly getting yelled at like, you got to stay low, bend your knees, stop. I got to move my feet, not always pulling out of these combinations all the time. So mentally, that's the most frustrating one because I do it a lot. And we've been working on that for a long time because it got me caught in the Glover to share a fight. When he had me backed up against the fence, I went to pull back when he was throwing a big overhand, and the cage was there so I couldn't get... I could pull back all the way and I got caught. But just a little shit. And the grind, the grind, because lately he has started to slow the fight down a little bit. And I suspect he's going to want to clench and fight in that close range.

Just making sure that I'm in shape to grind like that for 20 25 minutes. And you know how it is. The fence fighting, the clench fighting, the dirty boxing, the up and down with the wrestling, it's just hard. It's just really hard.

No, it is. It's bloody exhausting. It really is. Well, all the best. How long to the fight now?

Seven weeks.

Seven weeks. Seven weeks of no microphone. Anthony Smith coming your way.

Now, we'll get a microphone today.

I'll stop. Get used to it. I'll go get one today. Of course. So over the weekend, we had Rab Divage really taking on Peor Eyan in the very event of F ight Card. We also had the power slap thing, which I can't commentate. So I don't know. The fight's obviously for me, way more important, way more high significance, but I didn't get to watch them properly. I do know what happened. I didn't keep literally one eye on it. That's all I can do. But I was at the apex when we were getting ready to go live with the power slap thing, the fights were on, but obviously you can't watch them properly. You're doing your job, you're getting your suit on, your makeup, all that crap. But I was doing my best to try and track them. So I can talk about what happened. But do we want to do that or do we want to mention just quickly? Do we want to talk about what happened at power slap? Your call, Mr.

Smith. Well, let's go over the power slap just a little bit, and then we can get into the fights properly because I think they deserve a little more time. As best we can.

Of course they do. Of course they do. Listen, we haven't talked about it too much, to be honest. The power slap thing, there's a lot of critics out there, and I know there is. And one side of me understands it. But I had a conversation with Dana when I walked in Saturday night. I drove home straight after the event, three and a half hours drive, and I was thinking about the event. And this week, sorry, the week that just gone, I was in Vegas all week, and I sat down with all the guys competing in it. And when you get to hear their back stories and where they come from and what they're doing and they're trying to get to change their lives. Not everyone's got what it has, what it takes to go out there and become a professional mixed martial artist and fight at the highest level. And some of those people have tried to do that. Some of them haven't. But then they have this avenue. And I understand that people go, Oh, but it's violence. It's violence. Maybe you're taking advantage of these people. What we got to remember is Dana never invented this sport.

I do struggle to call it a sport, but this competitive edition. Dana never invented that. It was already a thing. It's all over the world. It's in Russia, it's in the UK, it's in China. It's all over the United States of America. He's a business man. An opportunity to give it a bit more glitz and glamour. And I'm telling you, the event was amazing. It was. It was so entertaining. And I'm going to shut up and let you talk in a second. But some of these guys, Dana said to me Saturday night, went over $60,000. Some of the people that I think most of them they're paid was either $50,000 to show, $15,000 to win. That's $30,000 if you win. Does it sound like a lot of money to some people? Well, it is a lot of money. Certainly the type of people that we're speaking about. And I said to my wife, Rebecca, I was talking to her, I said, can you remember when I was on the ultimate fight, the season three of the ultimate fight, we were so broke. And I remember for winning your fight, you got 5K. So if you got a stoppage, you got 5K.

And at the end of it, I had two stoppages. And I'm like, that's $10,000. And you got a small amount each week. And I remember adding it all up. I'm coming home and like, $16,000 something dollars. And that was life changing money. And I said to Dan, I said, our lives been very good. I've done well through the UFC and things like that. And now I have a lot of opportunities. It's easy to forget those days. And that's where these people are coming from. There was one guy that heated. His son, sadly, has some condition. There's less than a 1,000 in the world. These are simple guys. Yeah, these are normal people. One guy's they're working two, three jobs. This one guy has a child that has a condition, less than 1,000 kids in the world, and he's going to die pretty soon. Wow. And it was fine back then. It was fine back then. And I was so emotional talking to him. And he's like, This, if there's a couple more events this year as well and I get to do them, this allows me to not be working and spend time with my son.

So for all the critics out there, everyone is trying to just get ahead and scratch and claw. And if you're in a position of wealth or financial security and you have the ability to look down on people like that, well, then but a lot of people are. And if they're going to do this at power slap, if they're not going to do this at power slap, they're going to do it somewhere else where there's no regulation, there's no athletic commission, there's no medical screening, there's nothing like that. And if you speak to people, they are so grateful. They are so grateful for these opportunities. And I think people need to remember that.

When they're not going to make that money anywhere else at some of these other organisations. I think that Dana should have put that fact forward from the very beginning that he didn't invent this. I was a... I've talked about this before. I was a fan of the power slap thing or slap fighting in general for a couple of years now, way before the slap fighting League was even a thing. And you're right, when I went back during that pilot event and you talked to some of these guys, they could not have been happier to be there. They were so excited. They were in this multimillion dollar facility with people tending to them and making sure that they need something. Me and you and some of the other commentators are going back and them. They couldn't have been happier to see us just to come back and say hi to them. When you talk about opportunities, I think that... What was his name? K. O. Chris. K. O. Chris was in the middle of that platform screaming. If it wasn't for the power slap League, I would be down and out. Sometimes I see these people on Twitter and they're just like, oh, Anthony Smith likes this shit.

This is bullshit. This is skill. Fuck you. I met these people. You know what I mean? I've talked to them. I've hung out around these guys. If this is what they want to do, like you said, they're going to do it regardless. So why not do it here and get a hell of a lot more money than they're going to make anywhere else? And they're grown ass men. Let them do whatever they want.

And they're getting recognition as well. People are starting to know who they are now. They're making money. And there's both.

I get it's not for everybody. I get it's not for everybody. I'm not forcing people to say, you got to watch this. This is something that you need to be a part of. It's just don't judge other people.

For what they enjoy. There's still a lot of people that frown upon mixed martial arts. When I did that movie last year in Bulgaria, there was a guy that I met became a very good friend, Luca, lovely guy. And we've really got a lot in common. He's a huge boxing fan, massive boxing fan, doesn't get MMA. You know what I mean? But I was trying to educate him on it and some of the technicalities. And he's like, Well, in my mind, Mike, I just see someone get knocked down and get and you follow them down to the ground. It just seemed so barbaric. And remember, in the 90s, it was banned. Do you know what I mean? The sports come a long way, but it's still a gruesome sport and people still get knocked out. People still get kicked in the head. People still lose their damn eyeballs and their knees and vision and all kinds of stuff. Horses fuck horses. And I'll tell you what, the horses that this is is pure entertainment and shock value. The best part about an MMA fight is seeing someone get an L, let's be honest. It's great.

And I love to see the competitiveness and I love to see the sportsmanship. And I love to see the technique of display and the strategy and the human chess elements of it all. We all love that. But when it ends in a spectacular knockout, when Francis inganu decapitates Alistair Overeem, when Dan Henderson flatlines me and then dives on me, that's what has made this sport so big. And I'm telling you right now, Saturday night in the Apec, the place was packed out, the atmosphere was goddamn electric. The production was sensational, and the reaction, because a lot of people got knocked out. A lot of people got knocked out. And I'm telling you, the place lost their goddamn mind.

I thought the production was great. And I seen Dana during the production, the camera would pan by, and I seen Dana on that red phone a couple of times. So that tells me that the production is only going to get better from here because that's that's telling me that he's sold, he's bought in, he's make it the best he possibly can. I get it. It's not for everybody. But like you said, if you want to tune in and watch us kick each other in the face, a couple of slaps should hurt your feelings too much.

It really shouldn't. As Dana said, if you don't like it, then don't watch it. That's what you got to do. But understand that these people have been given a platform. And this sounds like I'm on a massive PR campaign because I'll be honest, I did it slightly on my reservations. I don't know how to feel about this. But when you speak to the people, as I said before, and I'm repeating myself now, and you hear the stories and the hardship, but not all of them are like that. There's a guy called Virg Kathy who was on there at the weekend. He lost. He got knocked out, but he's a really nice put together guy. He's an engineer. He's a family man. There's a lot of them like that. Darius the destroyer who was in the main event. Again, these words don't mean nothing to MMA fans. And we are going to move on to MMA in a second. But he's a really nice guy. He's not a wild man. He's not a thug. He's not covered in tattoos. Do you know what I mean? He was 19 years old and he got involved with this and realized he had a talent for it.

As it turns out, he got knocked out Saturday night, sadly. But then there is some wild cards. There is the guy that you mentioned, K. O. Chris Thomas. That guy knocks everyone the F out, but he's a maniac. He turned up 16 pounds over and he didn't have a clue what to do. So I talked him through the process and how to cut away. And I could see that I was looking at him and it was just going in one ear and out the other. I'm talking about salt baths and distilled water and carbohydrates and fucking this and that. And he's like, the.

Fuck man.

Short circeting. So I gave him my phone number. I said, right, look, listen, take my number. Well, it turns out he doesn't have a phone. Because this is the guy that he is. So he's like, can you write it down? I haven't written down my number in a long time because you just don't have to do that. So I wrote the number down and ripped off a piece of paper. Give me a call later. Next time I saw him, he'd lost the piece of paper. Can I give it to him again? So there's these people that are very put together. There's other people that need these goddamn outlets and these platforms to be able to, hey, he has the talent for taking a shot. I has the talent for knocking someone the hell out. So for him, this is Christmas. Anyway, so it was bloody fun. If you haven't seen it, check it out. It's still on Rumble. If you want to see some people getting knocked out and you appreciate a bit of shock and awe, it's for you.

You'll enjoy it. It's real.

All right, how are you buddy? Brian, should we have a little fursome? That sounded weird.

I like those.

Fursome.

Boys. What do you guys think of my fake plants in this new apartment? You guys like this? Very fancy. Yeah, man. You got them hanging back here, too?

It's like you got a woman's touch on the road, dude.

It's cool. Well, you're saying, the fake plants... See, Rebecca has a big problem with fake plants. Anywhere we go, if they have fake plants, she just automatically thinks it's super tacky. And she's right. There's just no need for them. Why the fake... If you're going to have a plant.

Have a real plant. They were here. They were over here.

Oh, no, I don't blame you, Anthony. I know you didn't bring them with you. You didn't even bring a fucking microphone.

Would you have been pissed if I had brought fake plants with no microphone?

The fake plants with no microphone.

It's just laziness, to be honest. It's like they don't want to take care of plants, so they put fake ones up.

When you go to restaurants and there's fake... There's a couple, maybe it's just by our house or maybe you've experienced this phenomenon, but you go to a restaurant and they've got fake plants everywhere. It's shit.

And Rebecca hates it.

She's like, Not this place. Look at the fake plants. Yeah, it's good.

We're getting out of here.

It's got the best stake in town. It says so on the sign. Anytime it says the best stake in town, it's not the best. What's going on, Hamilton?

Nothing too much, man. Just having a nice Monday here. Excited to be doing the show.

Very good. Very good. Why do you say it like that?

What do you mean? I felt like we got attacked there for a second, M ike. Just happy to be doing this. Happy we're here.

I am. There was a great fight over the weekend. Power Slap was awesome. I was.

Going to tell you.

Blink.

Once if you need our help. If you've been held hostage by a crazy pregnant woman.

I'm just so glad to be out of the house, guys. That's where I'm coming from.

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Duvalish Healy, I think.

Yeah, that's what I always thought. But over the weekend, I heard a lot of Duvalish Wheely.

Well, they can't change it now. I already got the first one down.

De Valish. Anyway, Healy. Duvalish. No, Marouh. Marouh. Marouh.

We're going for Marouh.

Marouh versus Peote Yan. Five rounds. First round was competitive from what I saw from Marouh. As I said, I was getting my makeup done. We were doing the rehearsals, but I was watching. It looked really competitive in the first round. But as the fight progressed, Merab just seemed to take it all with a nonstop barrage of wrestling and striking the combination. The output, the pace he was able to keep. Seems like Peote Yan just couldn't keep up.

I was shocked, to be honest with you, because I thought that Peter Yan's wrestling was pretty good. I guess I underestimated Maroub's willingness to just continue to shoot. He was 11 for 49 on take down attempts. That's a record number one. Number two, that's absolutely exhausting. I don't know any high level bantamweight that's going to be able to withstand that pressure. You're going to have to put that guy on hold out when he's coming in on take down. It's mind blowing. The amount of pressure that he put on Pio de Jahn. Pio de Jahn looked good in the first couple of rounds. Everything Marad was doing, it was more than him just spamming take downs over and over and over. He was getting Pio de Jahn to shell up really tight like he tends to do and then ducking under to get to the double leg, switching off to the single. When he was beating Pio de Jahn's under hook a bunch, getting pushed up against the fence. Everything he did was just 100 miles an hour, the entire 25 minutes. I couldn't be more impressed with Maroub, to be honest with you. I thought the game plan was perfect.

The pressure was perfect. He was in fantastic shape. He was dangerous enough on his feet to be able to mix up Pio d'Arianne's defense fences where he couldn't just only defend the wrestling because he was at least threatening him on his feet as well.

He.

Barbecue his leg early, hurt his leg really bad with those leg kicks to where Peor Dion had to switch stance and fight out of the southpaw the entire time versus his switching back and forth like he likes to do. He just beat him pillar to post. He beat him everywhere.

Yeah, he did a really good job of weaponising his pace or weaponizing his cardio because I talk about it all the time. One of the most, well, the most crucial factor is being in the best shape possible. Of course, you've got to have the martial arts side of things ticked. That's expected. We are mixed martial artists, the best in the world fighting at the highest level. So you got to have those skills. Outside of that, if they're both equal men, the guy with the best conditioning, more than likely over a five round fight will win the fight. Because that's what I used to do earlier in my career in my life. You push such a pace and they can stay with you. They can stay with you. But then after a bit, they start slowing down. They start slowing and they just can't keep up. And then you take over. They make mistakes and you start demoralising them, taking the fight out of them.

Well, then it gets easier for you, right?

Pardon me?

Then it gets easier for you. As the ch as they're trying to keep up and then they fall off, then it makes it way easier. Then you're not working nearly as hard and they're gaffed.

Exactly. So well done to Marouh de Valesvierley. I mean, that is a big win. Pio de Jandos, is that 4 out of 5 now? So Marouh, O'Malle, 2 to 2, Al Jemane. Yeah. She's lost 4 in a row. That's crazy. It's crazy. For being champion of the world, champion of the world to 4 in a row. I mean, it's a steep fall off, isn't it? The poor guy. Or he wouldn't get sand egged, and that's right. Thank you, Howard, for treating Al Joe.

What that one knee changed for him, though, right? Kind of changed the trajectory of his whole career.

Yeah. I mean, he had some amazing fights, though, but I always say, you don't get to stay. Your time in the sun doesn't last forever. All right, so, Harington, do you have... Or just come on, do you have the quote for from Dana? Because Dana obviously was asked about Maroub fighting for the belt next because Al Jumman's the champ. Of course, Maroub's right there now. I think he's on a nine fight win streak now. Nine fight win streak, by far that's his biggest win. You would think next fight is a title fight, but obviously there's Sejuda and Al Jumman. There's Sean O'Malle, there's Sam Hagan, there's Cito Verra. But if we were to imagine that it is Maroub Next, what did Dana have to say about that, Harrington?

Dana's quote was, Yeah, we don't have to deal with this BS anymore. Back in the early days, the camps were so small, you didn't have a lot of different options. So we had a lot of these guys saying, Oh, he's my friend. He's my friend. You can still be friends and want what your friend has. You know what I mean? It really is a bad idea for Maroub to go down that path.

It's such a tough situation. I understand what Dana is saying. Dana is basically just saying, Listen, Maroub, that. You're going to do what's right by you. Because you only get one shot at this. And it is so hard. And I understand Marouh's situation. I really do. They're best buddies, Marouh and Al Jumman. They've been trained in together for years. Stepping in the cage with each other is lunacy. It really is. It's like the set of the movie Warrior. The brothers fight each other. It's not going to happen. But also at the same time... So you're just going to agree I understand Dana's side, I understand Merab's side. I mean, what would you do, Anthony? Let's just say you and Harrington have been best friends forever. You and Harrington have been best friends forever. You help each other train. Harrington is the champ. Harrington is the champion of the world. You're the number one contender.

I think that this has to be a mutual thing. And it's going to be some hard conversations. But if Al Jomain is as good of a friend of Maraad as Marouh is to Al Joe, and that's the thing, I don't know that I've seen it go both ways. What I've seen is Maraad ride hard as shit for his best friend. I haven't always necessarily seen it go the other way for Al Joe. Maybe he's just not... Well, I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying I haven't seen it.

Oh, sensational headline coming up tomorrow. Oh, for sure.

This is a perfect opportunity for Al Joe to show his friendship. If you guys really don't want to fight, that means one guy gets to benefit and be the champion and the other doesn't. So if that's the case, then you got to go up and let your boy fight for the title. That's what you have to do. If you guys are best friends, that's what has to happen. Otherwise, one guy gets everything and the other guy is just asked out, holding on to his friend flag. Just like, Hey, this is what I got. And then my best friend gets to keep his title and I don't even get a chance at it. So it just doesn't seem fair to me. So it sounds like Al Joe is ready to go to 145 is what it sounds like if he can get a win over Sejuda. If he does, I think that that's what should happen if they're really best friends. And if he's not willing to do that, then I think that should tell Maraob all he needs to know.

It is a tricky one. Maybe we could stir the pot and highlight to Marouh that Al Jamey has not been a good friend. Anthony Smith say so. That's not what I said. Yeah, it is. I read between the lines. That's exactly what you said. That's not what I said. Al Jamey uses him as a punch bag. He's a good training partner, but he just keeps him out of the public eye. When the cameras come around, Al Jamey, Mourab, go and get my bags. Go and get me a smoothie.

I need water.

Yeah. It's it is a tricky one. It's a really tricky one.

I feel bad for those guys.

No, I do. Well, I feel bad for Marouh because as you said, Al Jamey is in a great position. He's making tons of money. That fight is scheduled now, right? Him and Henry Sejuda, I think it's in Newark, New Jersey. Is that April or May?

That's May sixth.

I believe. May sixth. And you never know. I think it's May. You never know. This problem might be solved very quickly. So who knows? Go and take that belt. This is all forgotten about.

It's really risky for Maraud, too. There's so many good guys in that weight class. You're going to hang out and just hope that eventually Aljo moves up. There's San Higgins, there's Sejuda, there's... I mean, the list goes on. There's Chido, there's all these guys that just floating around. He could lose at any point in time.

Well, Sejuda, if he beats him, that solves this problem. I guess we'll see how it all plays out. But well done to Marouh. Solid guy. He's just such a nice guy as well. So humble and very friendly. We'll go through the rest of the card in a minute. But Harrington, Anthony, how fast do you think you can run 100 metres?

I don't know. Pretty fast. Pretty fast.

Pretty fast, Ailey? Were you a sprinter?

No, I didn't do any track at all.

What about when you're 100 years old? How fast do you think you could run it then?

Probably under an hour for sure.

That would be dead. I was not making it to 100, but how do you know where?

Do you think you could beat a minute 37?

At 100 years old?

Yeah.

If I made it to 100, hell no.

Do I have to give us the story.

So a 100 year old woman set the world record for a 100 meter dash for a person over the age of 80. She completed it in 1 minute and 17 seconds.

I'll dust her right now then.

I'll.

Dust that lady right now.

So she's 100 years old.

She is 100 years old. The record is for... They stopped counting it, I guess, over 80 is its own class and they don't go much higher than that. She says she took up the act of running when her son passed away. So anytime a parent has to bury a kid, figure something out, she figured out a track and she's now a world champion.

God bless her. That's amazing. 100 years old and still doing that. Setting the world record. It's incredible.

I hope I don't live that long because once you live long enough to where you start burying all your friends, you're going to your family, your children. No, man, I'm not buried like this. They're going to be like me.

Well, hopefully none of us have to bury our kids. I've been thinking about this a lot though, recently. I've been thinking about old age. I've got to go have my wrist. I can't rotate my wrist right now. I can do that. That, but I've got to go have another surgery on my goddamn wrist. I'm just sick of having surgeries. But I do think about old age a lot now. And I always wanted to be an active older person. In my mind, I will be. I hopefully will be. But who knows how do you think you're going to age? Will it be a graceful ageing process for Mr. Smith?

No, I don't. Honestly, I talk about this with my wife all the time that I want to do the best that I can to continue to take care of my body because she's been pushing me to get this next surgery and all this other stuff. I just like, I don't want to do it. She always says that you're going to be 60 years old, unable to do anything with your kids. You're going to be 40 years old, struggling to get out of bed. I think it's going to be a steep fall, to be honest. I was thinking about this today, Mike. I remember when I used to do these interviews all the time and when I was getting close to having 50 professional fights. It's been a couple of years ago I was getting close to 50, and people say, Well, hey, how do you feel? How do you feel? It's a lot of fights. You've been at this a long time. At the time, I remember thinking, Damn, I feel good. I feel really good still. Now I'm like, Oh God. It's just the difference in a couple of years. It just takes a lot more maintenance.

It takes a lot more focus. It takes a lot more time to continue to keep making sure that I'm on the up and up every.

Single time. Well, it's because it's a tough life. It's hard on the body, it really is. And I always try and tell young fighters, up and coming fighters, train smart, don't take too many shots to the head and stretch a lot. I wish I did a lot more. My mobility is so messed up and I don't want to sit here and go through all my injuries because people are sick to death of hearing about me. But the road of a mixed martial artist is very, very tough. And it's just like any sport, really. I was going to say there's only a few people, not a few people, a low percentage of people, should I say, that really makes it work for them. You know what I mean? Just like a lot of sports, it's only the tip of the iceberg really, or the top section. If you look at a picture of a mountain, it always has that little snowy bit at the top. The snowy bit at the top of that mountain is the percentage of people, fighters, athletes, any sportsman, really, that make it work for them. And at the end of it, are able to sit back and go, you know what?

I did it. I made my mark. I made some money. I made some history. It was all worthwhile. You know what I mean? Because sadly, a lot of people are going to fall into obscurity. A lot of people are going to go through the hardships and the sacrifice and the injuries and not make it. And that's not because of the UFC. It's not because of anything. It's because of that's the competitive nature and the cream rises to the top. And when the cream gets to the top, it forms a little bit of snow at the top of the mountain. My God, the analogies are all falling into one another. But you see what I'm saying now? It's fucking hard, man. It's a hard life.

It's so... And again, I don't want to sit here because nobody wants to listen to me bitch and complain about how hard my job is. But we were just talking about old age. And when I was younger, I never considered what life was going to be like in my 40s. I didn't consider what the 50s were going to look like because I just was laser focused, didn't give a fuck. Whatever I need to do, whatever I need to break, whatever, I just need to make it. And now I'm like, I remember those times in my 20s now where I remember that one. I think about it more now. So I'm trying to train smarter. I don't spa nearly as much as I used to. I don't walk around nearly as many black eyes as I used to. That's for sure.

I turned 44 last week, and I'm like, I hate it because now it's like 43 early 40s. You know what I mean? 44, definite mid 40s. Mid 40s. Without question. He said he's in his mid 40s, I think, whereas before, early 40s, just turned 40. Still a young man. Middle of the 40s, pushing 50. Oh, my God.

The old people at 43 would still say, Oh, you're still a young man.

Last night I was watching some... What was it? What was it? Were we watching in bed last night? I forget. Oh, no. I started watching Breaking Bad again. What a show that is. Have you seen Breaking Bad?

I have it.

Oh, my God.

Antony, you've got to stop watching it. Everybody says that.

It's the best show ever made. Well, one of. It's up there. It's top three. You got to watch it. You got to watch Breaking Bad. I'm going.

To start watching it tonight.

Please do. Episode 1.

Is awesome. I got nothing to do.

Episode 1, Breaking Bad. News just in. But on the show, Skyla and then this other woman, they're talking and one of them is turning 40. And I started watching this back in 2010, I think. And I wasn't even thinking about my 40s now. I'm older than those women on the show. I'm 44. Jesus Christ. Where has time gone? Anyway, people, this is not a rehearsal. We are here for a very short time. All right, what else on the fight? So Alexander Volkoff versus Alexander Romanoff ended in the first round. Thoughts on that one, Anthony?

No, I thought Alexander Volkoff looked really good. I think they said on the broadcast he's been in the states for the last five or six months out in California working on his wrestling and wrestling only. It showed. I think his last couple of fights, they made a big deal about him putting on more weight. So he was just physically able to deal with some of these heavyweights. To be fair, I thought Alexander Romanoff looked about... Well, and the numbers proved this, he's about 40 pounds heavier than he typically is. When he first came in.

Hey, Brian, just while Anthony talks, can you just bring up a picture of Romanoff at the weekend? Because you're right, he's put on about 20 pounds of fat.

Yeah, it's all around the midsection. He looks like shit. Just to put it bluntly. When he came in, he was big and thick and fast, and he was throwing big punches, getting take down. He was aggressive. And now, honestly, he's just a fat slob right now. So I don't know if he's not taking it serious. But to Volkoff's credit, he does look bigger. He looked stronger. His take down defense was on point. Once Romanoff got that first take down, though, it looked shot. I don't think he had any plans after that.

Yeah, he definitely came in looking heavier. I couldn't believe the pictures that I saw, the ways and stuff, around the midsection. I was like, Jeez Louise, because he really does look, he's put some on. That's not too bad though, because his arms are up and it's... The arms up.

That's got to be his debut. That's got.

To be an early fight. That's his debut. There's the little one there. Let's have a look. Basically, scour the internet. There we go. Basically, we want you to scour the internet and body shame, fat shame Alexander Romanov, who's a very dangerous elite head.

Yeah, he'll still beat the shit.

Out of you. He'll smack the fuck out of the pair of us. We're like, He's so fat. What is he doing?

We call it what it is. He looks like he's not trained. He can't even get a haircut. He used to come in his hair high and tight, nice and shaved, flat stomach for the most part. He's still heavyweight, he was thick, he was a little bigger. Now, his huge belly, hasn't shaved, ain't cutting his hair. It's like he came straight off the couch.

Do you know what that says to me? Moving off Romanoff for a second. But Volkoff was impressive. He is impressive. First round stoppage over, J ozy Neur Rosenstock stopped Volkoff there, who was undefeated until quite recently. Lost to Martian Ty Burra. Prior to that he was undefeated. This just says to me, and of course, I'm on the bandwagon, but this just highlights how good Tom Aspinall is. Because Tom Aspinall, last March, went through Volkoff like a hot knife through butter. Made it look so easy. And I'm excited for the comeback of Tom Aspinall. Obviously, we got a big pay per view at the weekend. I only got home yesterday. I get back on a plane tomorrow and we fly to London for the pay per view. My kids don't even know what I look like anymore. But yeah, Tom Aspinall, that just highlights that to me.

Yeah. I think on the broadcast and I think even on some of the pre fight stuff, they had talked about, well, Volkoff had fixed the mistakes. He had worked on this. He learned a lot from the Aspinal fight. And I don't think that that was necessarily fair to Alexander Volkoff to say, Oh, you did this wrong. You did this wrong. You did this wrong. I think Tom Aspinall is just a level above Volkoff right now. So he looks sensational versus R oes and Strike. He looked great versus Romanov. I think it's okay to say he's way better than these two guys. He's just a level below this guy. And I think that that's a really great point by you. I thought the same thing like, Goddamn, how good is Tom Aspinall? Because he made it look easy.

Well, I'll be seeing him this week.

He's invited.

Me for drinks. I'm like, No, Tom, come on, mate. We're going to have a beer. Everyone, when I'm going back to England, there's so many people I would meet up and meeting up with my guys. I'm getting in Wednesday. I leave on the Sunday. In between that, I've got a shit ton of things to do. I'm not there on holidays. All you people, I will not be joining you at the pubs and the bars and things like that. I'll be head down doing my studies.

Tell Tommy to book a flight, fly his old friend Anthony on down there. He needs to have a beer. Come on.

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You just shake a little bit. When they're a little sweaty, they'll slide off. When they get too high up, he falls off and I thought, Oh, my God. Because you got to like the key to Quilov, he's a good dude. But so has Ryan Span. So he's like, May the best man win. But I'm like, Oh, shit. He made a big mistake there. And then Ryan Span just falls into a triangle. Listen, granted. Listen, credit to Khrilov, of course, credit. He did it. He saw it. He did it. He achieved it. He conceived, believed, and achieved it. But Ryan Span, what the fuck was he doing?

I don't know. Listen, this is what I'm going to go off on a tangent here, and I'm so glad that you brought this up because I almost sent a tweet to Ryan Span yesterday because, again, obviously, Ryan Span and I have not been the best of friends. I really have a lot of respect for his coach. I love his team and I really like his coach. I think he's one of the best coaches.

In the game.

Say, Sa nd? I love that guy.

Amazing guy. Shout out to him.

One of the best minds in the game right now. That is that is Ryan Span 101. I think I said this a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about what my game plan is for Johnny Walker. I said he's exactly like Ryan Span. If you give him enough rope, he'll hang himself. And that's exactly what Ryan Span runs into. He looked really good during that fight. He was transitioning very well. He was winning a lot of those scrambles. And he just can't keep it together. And he just dives into something with a big over. I mean, one hand down and throwing the other one into an overhand right into someone's guard is just asking to get triangle. But then I go on Twitter yesterday. I'm scrolling through board and seeing someone had retweeted something that he tweeted. I don't remember the exact tweet, but it was long story short. It said the address to the gym is what I'm assuming it was an address in Dallas, Texas, and says, If you don't plan on showing up to this and you don't got shit to say. He's mad at all the people on the internet trawling them because he got beat.

Some of that is his fault because of some of the things that he says leading into these fights, then he loses and it looks bad. I almost tweeted him and was like, This is the problem with Ryan Span as a whole. Why do you care what these people on the internet say about you? To the point where you're going to give them an address so that they can come and say whatever they got to say to their face. Why do you care so much about what these people say that you want them to come say it to your face? I just wanted to just tell him, You got to check. This is to him and all fighters that worry about this stuff. I'm not saying there's not going to be things on the internet that are going to hurt your feelings because it happens to me sometimes when people say some things that are true, sometimes it hurts my feelings. But by and large, most of that shit is bullshit. So to him and everybody else that just reads the comments all the time and gets so upset about them, you've got to stop, specifically, Ryan, has got to stop putting so much energy into what everyone around him says and the trolls and the shit talkers and even fighters.

Don't worry about what I'm saying. Just worry about what you and your team are saying. I think that if he can get his mental space, if his mental capacity would match his physical ability, he'd be unstoppable. He really would. Physically, he is so talented. He's strong, he's fast, he's explosive, he moves very well for his size. He's huge. If he could get his mental capacity to just dial it in and just focus on what him and his team are saying. He's one of those guys in the division that I have always kept my eye on because it's always been, if he can figure it out upstairs, he's going to be a goddamn problem for everybody to deal with. But diving into triangles when you're winning transitions, when you start freaking out and going on Twitter and worried about trolls and all this other bullshit, that's what separates being really good from being great. And with that mentality and worried about all that other bullshit, you're never going to be great. And that's what I wanted to tweet him. Just stop. I know we don't even get along, but I almost feel bad for you. You're so worried about all this other bullshit.

Fix the stuff in the gym, tune into what Saif is telling you. And I think that's going to get you a whole lot further. And I know I went on a rant there.

No, not at all. And you're spot on. You're absolutely right. And every time I've spoken to Ryan Span on a fighter interview, he always talks about the emotional side, the feeling side, controlling, working with sports psychologists and things like that, because the anxiety of the sport in general is what holds him back. And that crosses over into the performances. You've got to be able to stay calm and level headed in the most craziest situation that you can imagine yourself in. Imagine being, if you've never done it, if you've done it, I've done it many times, but the people at home, imagine having a full on fist fight to the highest degree, full contact, trying to knock the shit out of your opponent in a cage with 20,000 people watching, within millions and millions of around the world watching. Imagine that pressure and what that feels like. But also at the same time, you've got to be able to remain calm. And not let the adrenaline take over the decision making part of your brain. You know what I mean? Because the decision making is so important. And if the adrenaline gets too high, then that goes out the window and then you make stupid decisions and then you panic when somebody takes you back or whatever the case may be.

And then shit goes wrong. And that's why the top guys, they're the ones that are able to almost... Look at Fado Emilianenko, how stoic he would be and how emotionless. You've got to try and be like that. Or in those insane situations, just stay very level. And that's the tricky part. He's embarrassed. That's why he's going after people on social media, because that's the hard part of it as well, because you go out there and you do put yourself out there to be critiqued, to be talked about, to be abused. Sadly, there is a lot of people that will do that. And it's hard to turn the other cheek. Certainly, if you're in slap fight and you can't do that there, that's flinching and you get an extra one.

Do you find yourself wanting to pull him under your wing a little bit? That's what I find myself... And we don't even get along, but I find myself wanting to talk to him, take him out to dinner and to be like, What in the fuck is happening here? You were too good to be losing the way that you lose sometimes. His mental capacity in these fights is such a liability. I'm worried about the physical part of whatever, the technical, all that other shit. During training camp, I wouldn't even worry about it because it wasn't going to last long anyways. Because you can see it as it goes. As long as you stick around long enough and you're just technically fundamentally sound, you'll run into something on his own. And it's He's just... Maybe it's the part of me that's at the last half of my career where he's going to be around long after I'm gone. I don't know. It's so frustrating. I'm almost past the point of not even getting along with him anymore. I almost want to help him. You're too goddamn good. You're too talented to fall apart like that in some of those critical moments.

I find myself trying to mentor a lot of fighters these days a little bit. Not me mentor, maybe that's too strong of a word. But you just want to help them. Give them some of your experience. Exactly. Because as a 44 year old man and having been through it, all the ups and downs, I like to just bestow a little bit of wisdom. But it's hard to do it without being condescending or patronising because that's the last thing that someone wants or needs. And if they feel that it can make them angry. But well done to Nikita Khrilov. That man is a problem. Obviously, we also had David Grant, friend of the show. He was on Inverted Triangle, 4 minutes 43 of the final round. David Grant, one of the nicest guys. He's down to jump on the podcast today, but I'm still feeling like crap, so we're going to get him on the next show. So keep an eye out for that one, David. Dangerous David. Absolutely love that guy. Right, Harrington, what is outside of the fight? We're not going to go through all of them from Saturday night because we got a lot of news to talk about.

We got some nonsense stories from Harrington as well. But what is the biggest news story in the world of mixed martial arts? In fact, hold on, did you see that nonsense with Jake Paul and Floyd Mayweather last week? We never talked about this.

Yes, I did see it.

If you could pull up that video, please, Brian. So Jake Paul was at a Miami Heat basketball game last... I think it was Thursday night or Wednesday night or Thursday night. And then Floyd Mayweather runs up on him. He's got about 10 goons with him. The film and the whole thing. He's got his bodyguards talking shit. I think Jake Paul had a bodyguard with him as well. But basically they all surround him and they say, Are we going to mess him up? Are we going to bust him up? Or something like that. And in the end, Jake Paul starts walking away, but then he turns around and full on runs away. Here's the video. What's going on?

What's up, boy? I can have what I want. What do you think about the cameras? He got cameras, too?

Who are you supposed to be?

I'm just working, man. What happened? You're not talking anymore since your loss? What happened since your loss? Yo, we're going to bust him up, guys. Let's bust him up. Where are you running, Jake? Where you going since your fight? Since your loss? What's up, Jake? Where are you going, Jake? Oh, he's running. He's running. Look at him. Right.

There's a lot. It's hard. I am not... Floyd Mayweather is a pussy for doing that.

I'm glad you were going there. I'm glad.

You were going there. First and foremost, all the blame is on Floyd Mayweather. Get your shit together. I think he's 44 as well or 46. What are you doing running around with a bunch of dogs doing that? I'm assuming that he's trying to angle for that fight because he's still been doing the demonstration bouts. The last one that he had at the Auto arena, there was hardly anybody there. And I'm assuming the pay per view badge reflected that as well. You see, J. P aul is probably getting a lot of attention. Remember, J. Paul snatched the cap off him when Logan and Floyd fought. Got your hat. Got your hat. So he's getting revenge for that. But being a total thug surrounding him with that amount of people and doing that. Floyd's an asshole for that.

Yeah, Jake Paul's hands are clean here. Jake Paul's hands are clean here. There's a.

Big butt, though.

There's a big butt.

There's a big butt, and I'm struggling to say the butt.

You got to stand there and get your ass kicked like a man. You can't run away like that. Thank you.

You can't run away like that. I'm all on Jake's side, but he's...

He runs away.

Yeah. You can't run away. You can't turn. Listen, and I'm not saying I'm a real tough guy. I'm I'm not saying I'm the baddest man on the planet. I'm saying that the cloth that I am cut from, my DNA, every fibre of my being will not allow me to literally turn and run away. And by the way, that's the smart thing to do. That is the thing that my mother always told me to do. But the fighter inside of me and the proud man that I am, to a fault, I'm not saying that I'm great. And I know you totally agree with me. And you're probably the same thing. But the only reason I'm bringing this up is because Jake Paul does these videos staring into camera just recently. I'm a messed up pilot, man. You don't understand. But then when he's surrounded on camera, he turns around and runs down the street, actually sprints away. He did the right thing. He did the right thing. But you're not of the same DNA. You're not what we are.

No. I think a lot of people are going to say, Well, Michael and Anthony, that's the smart thing. He's outnumbered. That's what he should have done. He shouldn't have been able to fight them. You're right. But you can't cut promos on people. A couple of weeks ago, being this huffing and puffing in the camera, you're talking about people's kids and their wives and their dad, and you're going to have to change your name. Some of the shit he said was pretty real. You can't be that guy. And then when Floyd Mayweather shows up, tell him to be that guy.

Yeah. By the way, Jake did. Any other person should run away. And if you're a fighter, you should still run away. But I'm not criticising him. I'm criticising Floyd Mayweather more than Jake. All I'm saying is for Jake, it's really unfortunate because he just lost his first fight and then after that he's filmed running away from a confrontation. And I don't think Floyd or any of his people would have actually made it real. Do you know what.

I'm saying? I don't think so either. Floyd, for all of his dumb shit that he does, he seems at least later on in his life, he never takes it too far. He was very professional in the build up with the Conner stuff. He never let any physical altercations get in the way of his money. Even Conner pushed the limit a couple of times and touched him, and he didn't do anything about it.

I think it was because in a real fight, Conner would smoke him.

Honestly, I think that in a real fight, Jake Paul probably has the advantage over Floyd Mayweather, for being honest here.

100 % the reality is, though, because we got the same scene with a bunch of other people. I think it's an intimidation. It was massively outnumbered. I just think he was trying to cut a promo. I don't think he would have punched him in the face.

Or anything like that. It was way better than he expected it to, I'm sure.

It was great because he ran away. Now, the only way Jake could get back at him, and he came back and he said, Look, listen, I'll fight you one on one. I wasn't going to stand there and fight you and 50 others, which I totally get. I totally get. I do. I'm not saying that Jake's a pussy for running away. I'm saying that it just conflicts the persona he's been trying to push lately. And it confirms...

He's not who he says he is.

Yeah, thank you. And listen, he did the right thing.

And then.

It's fine. That's fine? That's totally fine. If anyone surrounds my children, I tell them run away. I would tell any person in the world, the number one thing to do, avoid confrontation. Do not roll around in the streets. Do not engage in violence on the streets because you know what? Something bad can happen. One little shot, you can fall down, you can bang your head, you can die. Someone else can die. They'll stamp on your head, they'll kick you in the face. Who knows where this is going to end up? Always avoid that at all goddamn costs. But a lot of people that fight in the UFC, they're not all people. You know what I mean? It's like that's why we do that for a living. And rightly or wrongly, and it is wrongly, I would have... And I'm not trying to sound tough, and I'm not ripping on Jake.

But you know what you would do?

I wouldn't take a fucking backward step.

No way.

I tell you little punk bitch, you coming up here with fucking five or six of you? Tell them to cross the street and you stand there. You stand there right in front of my face then. Come on. Whatever. Who cares? I'm not trying to.

Sound tough. You guys might beat my ass, but I'm going to get a couple of your guys' shirts dirty.

Yeah, I said, Well, go ahead then. Go ahead. You are going to kick the fuck out of me. But the first one that steps within striking me, you're going to get knocked out. And after that, I'll go down. But I'm taking one of you with me. I'm taking one of you with me. I remember my oldest brother, Steven, there used to be this video game arcade, and I was with him. I was a kid. It was in Blackburn. It was a rough part of Blackburn. There was this arcade Campbells, I think it was called. Anyway, whatever. And there was a lot of Pakistani gang hung around in there. It was a rough part of town and we went in there and I don't know, my brother must have said the wrong thing. And then about 20 of these Pakistanis surrounded him.

And they.

Were going to kick the shit out of him. And then my brother just lost his shit and screamed at all of them and said, Come on, then. First one first. And they were all like, Oh, calm down, calm down. Because they thought it was a goddamn raging psycho. And then we walked around the corner and he said, I was shitting my pants the whole time. It was all I could do. I had to see him like a psycho. I was shitting my pants the whole time. Anyway, never forgot that. All right, Shopify is the e-commerce platform, revolutionizing millions of businesses worldwide. Listen, whatever you're selling, whatever your business is, you have to have an online presence. And getting online, getting a website, getting an e-commerce facility sounds expensive, sounds complicated, sounds very time consuming. Well, that's where Shopify comes in. It makes it very easy. But more importantly, with the deal that we have, it makes it very cheap. You can sign up for a $1 per month trial period at Shopify. Com believe. They take care of everything. Instantly, you can accept every major payment method. Shopify covers every sales channel from an in person POS system to an all in one e-commerce platform.

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Yes. So it looks like the first ever heavyweight unification in the four belt era in boxing is about to happen. Over the weekend, Tyson Ferry called out Alexander Usyk. He said that he is a bigger draw. He would like a 70 30 cut on the revenue split for the fight and that Usyk would lose 1 % for every day that he waited. Within an hour, Usyk responded, saying, I'll do 70 30. Let's do it at Wembley in April, but you have to donate a million dollars to the people of Ukraine and 1 % of your fight purse for every day that you delay that donation.

Fair play to Usyk. You got to love this guy. Obviously, we're a mixed martial arts show, but you got to know the situation with Tyson Fuehrer and Alexander Usyk. Usyk beat Anthony Joshua twice in a row. He's going to unify the Belfast against Tyson Fuehrer. Tyson Fuehrer. I don't know. You can't not be inspired by Tyson Fuehrer. And of course, his performances in the ring are incredible. But making these demands and it needs to be done within the hour and every day that passes, it goes down and all the rest of it. I don't know. It's I don't know. I'm not a fan of that. But that's boxing and it's all hype and it's got us talking.

Yeah, it did seem like an asshole move a little bit. I think that's probably the one fight right now that everyone one wants to see. There's not a whole lot going on in the heavyweight boxing division right now. I don't know. And then the way he told him, we think you're worth 30 %. Oh, that sounded gross. I loved Usyk's response, though. He's like, all right, fine. I'll take the 30 % because it's going to be more money than I'm going to make anywhere else. But you have to do something for Ukraine. I don't know, he definitely took the baby face turn there. And then it forced Tyson Ferry. He doesn't really have a choice. He has to agree to that because he looks like an asshole if he doesn't.

Yeah, well, he's got no choice. That fight needs to happen now. If that doesn't happen, it'll be ridiculous because they are the two best heavyweights. Even though Tyson Ferry and Ushik in a ring together will look like two different weight classes completely. You know what I mean? Ushik looks like a bloody... Well, he was a cruiser weight for a while. Tremendously technical, though. So fingers crossed that happens. But speaking of boxing, Francis Zengarne, who as we know, is trying to fight Tyson Furi, fight Anthony Joshua. Well, it's looking now like two fights are signed or verbally agreed with Deontay Wilder. Harryton, if you have any details, but you heard that it's one MMA and one boxing. I cannot believe that. I don't believe that Deontay Wilder will fight Tyson Fure in an MMA fight.

So here's.

What I have. Sorry, we'll fight Francis Zengarne, pardon me.

So inganu said that he has been talking to Eddie Hearn and his people about a possible Anthony Joshua fight. He said the furthest, though, he has gotten in talks with is the management for Deontay Wilder. He said, Basically, we have a verbal agreement in place for two fights, ideally doing one of them in Africa. He said next year is going to be the 50 year anniversary of Rumble in the Jungle. So maybe run something around that. Wilder had said earlier, I would love to do a two fight deal with Francis Ghanou. Everybody always talks about the MMA guy coming over to boxing. I'd like to go over to his sport, do a one and one.

Deontay Wilder would get absolutely pummeled. If they do box, they got to do the boxing one first because there's no way Deontay is going to get into a ring with him ever again after he goes through an octagon with him. Because Francis St. Gallant would... I mean, he's not a wrestler, but he's down side more of a wrestler.

He was good enough to wrestle with Ciro Gung.

Can.

You imagine Francis St. Gartner crashing one of those late kicks into those legs that Deontay Wilder's got attached to his lower body? It's just... Oh, man.

Deontay is tiny as well.

He's not a very big guy.

I think when he fought Tyson Fuehrer, he weighed in at 212 pounds. Maybe even less, I think.

At least one of those times he weighed in at 212. I do remember that.

Yeah, which is what makes it so much...

I can't imagine me me fighting Tyson Fury's gargantuan ass. And I'm well over 212.

Yeah, but the other tip of the world, it hits so hard. It's insane. And he nearly had him beaten that first fight. Remember, it was round 8 or nine, knocked him down and Tyson didn't know where he was. I mean, he's got some crazy power.

Yeah, he's super tall and pretty skinny. He's got to be 6'6. I mean, he's super tall.

He's a big dude for sure, but just very like compared to heavyweight boxing. Anyway, I do hope that happens. I don't think box, I'd love to.

See that.

Oh, 100 %. I just want to see Engarno in there. Listen, he's not a boxer, but we know he's got the power. That's the equaliser against any of these top boxes because he deserves it. I want to see him make the money. He rolled the dice, he left the UFC. I want to see him work out. And I want to watch it. I would watch that all day long. Another fight I'd like to see also is the one that Davidson Figurado was calling for. Davidson Figurado, as we know, lost his Flyw ate title quadrilogy, if you will, to Brandon Moreno. He says he's coming up to Bantam Way. I can see you're tired, aren't you, Anthony?

No, I'm just tired.

No, I'm not bored at all.

For Christ's.

Sake, man. No, I've just been training and I was up early. I had an early flight this morning. 6 AM flight.

It's a tough life. I'm flying to England tomorrow. It's not a competition. Dominic Cruz has been called out against Davidson Figurado. What do you think about that?

Poor Dominic Cruz. Everybody has been calling him out lately. Jonathan Martinez has called him out. There was another Bantamweight recently that called out Dominic Cruz. And then now, Davidson Figurito. I don't know why everyone wants to beat up on Dominic, but I get it. He's e's a name. He's a huge name in the division, one of the biggest names in the division. He was on a little bit of a run there and obviously dropped the fight to Chido, which is you can't hold anything against him there. Chido is one of the best in the world at that division. I think that people maybe are thinking that maybe he's fallen off, maybe he's reaching the end and they want to get that shine. I think in terms of danger, and I don't think Dominic would get mad at me if he heard me say this. In terms of danger factor, as far as who do you look at when you're going to fight someone and make you feel, I don't know, like they're going to hurt you? Dominic Cruz isn't one of those guys. You look at Cheeto, he's going to bang up your legs. He's going to throw big punches.

Everything he does is going to hurt. Dominic is a technician. He's very smooth and tactical and fast and makes you miss a lot and counters and shoots good take downs. But he's not hurting people. So maybe that's another reason that people are keen on him right now.

It's probably that because he is Dominic Cruz. The man is a legend of the lighter weight division. It really is. And it is impressive that he's still around. I mean, he's been around for a long time now. Let's have a look. He had his first fight in 2005, been in the UFC or WEC since 2008. And it's 2023 and he's still knowing. I just got his Wikipedia page up here. Let me just see his age real quick. 38 years old. So for a Bantamweight, that's all there. It's all. But he's got a massive name, former champion. He will 100 % go into the Hall of Fame. That's without question. And he's still got it. I talked to him. You see him around when I'm commentating with him. He's still pushing himself, working on his body, working on his recovery. He's still very much dedicated and still has a champion mindset. And with respect, he's lost three out of his last five. There's no disrespect in them. He only lost two of the very best people. Martin Marlin Verra recently, Henry Zahudow and Cody Garber. Now that's going back to 2016. So that's over a long, long time because he's not the most active guy.

But against Figo Reynol, that would be a huge name for him if he could get the job done. I don't really see much upside for Dominic in that fight, though.

You think Figo Reynos are big enough danger and big enough, I don't know, maybe threat or name himself that would put Dominic in a title contender fight right after that?

I don't think Figo Reyes would be the guy to do that. And that's who Dominic is interested in. He knows he's near the end of the fight. That's all he wants. He wants the biggest fight ever. And if you can see a way back to the title, he would love that. Of course, that's going to be hard, but it's not impossible. And I don't think Davidson Figurator would be the one to do it. And also, let's be honest, a dangerous fight. Figurator is a tough son of a bitch. He really is. And Dom's getting a little bit older. What else we got, Harrington?

Take your time.

All the time in the world. Yeah, whenever you're ready, Harrington.

Whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready.

All right. I'm sorry, I could not find the button, guys. Cirol Gunn, he got an offer to do work on some deficiencies maybe in his game. Khabib Nirmaga Medov says, I'll fly you out, take your team, bring everybody. I'll put you guys up. We'll figure out lodging. Come here for a year, two years. I will teach you wrestling. How do you not take that offer?

Brother.

Brother, listen, you come to DAG is DAG. We sort out lodging for you, no problem. You're going to be living in a cave like a hobbit, okay?

With your coaches, he said you could bring those people.

Will do. Bring the coaches along, bring F nand Lopez. What's going on? You got a little bit of a sniff along today?

I don't think so. My nose is starting.

To run a little bit. You're sniffing a lot. My nose is blocked.

Can you hear my Jutsu Coach snoring? No, he just stopped. Scottie, stop snoring. You're going to make an episode on the podcast, real interesting.

Shut the hell up, Scottie. I'll tap you out.

He just said, shut up, or he's going to tap you out. Fuck you. Good luck, buddy. I got my Jui Jitsu coach here with me and he fell asleep on the couch while I'm recording here. And every once in a while, I hear, look, this is some high quality podcasting going.

On here. It's some high quality stuff. Don't make me heel hook anybody, okay? Don't make me come out of retirement. I'll get you again. Where were we? What were we talking? Oh, Daghestan, Sierra Leone. Yeah, I feel for Cheryl. I feel for Cheryl Garn because he's the nicest guy ever. I was going to say he got exposed by John Jones, and he did. But he also got exposed by someone that could probably do that to almost the entire division.

You.

Know what I'm saying? So it's like, Oh, look at that. It's so easy to take down. And we're revisiting all ground. We went through this a couple of weeks ago, or last week, or whenever the hell it was. But he does need to work on that. And there was no better person. And it's close to him, France, over to D aggestown, don't get me wrong, it's not exactly around the corner. You're not going to drive it. It's definitely a few hours flight. But it's not bad. I mean, then that's about as good as you're going to get.

I would take him up on that immediately. If I was several gone, I'd already be making plans to head on over there because he already has the striking part of it down. If he can mix in the way that he'd be wrestles and the way that their team attacks the striking game. It's not that Habib teaches people to just wrestle. He mixes it. He blends their striking and their wrestling together very well. So I don't know. I think that's probably best case scenario for Seyro Ghan. If Habib extends his hand and offers you some help, you fucking take it every single time. I don't really care who you are. Seloger or anybody. If Habib wants to give you some of his knowledge, you at least go over there and spend a little time and take what you can.

Without question, without a shadow of a doubt. Sometimes you can just work with someone for 30 minutes and pick something up and say, Wow, that's amazing. I worked with this West Ham once and they showed me this amazing thing that I still use to this day. I do it now and again on Callum, my way of wrestling. Someone's got their over hook and under hook on you. You over hook their arm, but then you put it in like the crutch where their hip flexor is, you know what I mean? And you can arm bar them. You know what I mean? A little bit. You can use your arm to arm bar them and it makes them disengage from the clench straight away. I work with this guy for five minutes, he showed me that I still use it to this day and it pisses everybody off. It's great. But I think the larger conversation there is because SeLoger is French. He represents France in the UFC. I see a lot of people, and I saw some videos today on social media where... Because obviously we've got the fights happening this weekend in London. Can't wait to get there.

Huge fight card. Oosman, Edwards was three, very excited. There was someone on the card doing an interview and they're saying, yeah, I'm really proud because I've got here training in the UK and I want to show that it can be done by only training in the UK. I'm not talking about Léon or anything like that. And of course, it could be done only training in the UK. And of course, several can get better only training in Paris. And of course, you got to have loyalty to your team and all the rest of it. But what do you want to achieve? Do you want to just say, I made it, I did it, I managed to fight there. Or do you want to become a champion? Are you willing to make those sacrifices? Are you willing to get out of your comfort zone, go to another country, suck it up as civil guard or whoever it is that I was watching, and fly to another country and be a guest and be humble and learn and be completely out of your depth in a language... Sorry, a country with another language and weird foods and all the rest of it.

Are you willing to go through that to get to where you need to be to acquire the skills? Because those skills can't just be downloaded and put into your brain like that. And where you are now or where anyone is, if they're not getting the results that they want, they've got to do something else. And they can sit there and you can talk about fucking loyalty and you can talk about representing your country and all the rest of it. Well, if you're born in that country, you'll always represent that country. And if you hold them in the heart, you'll always represent that country. And you can still be loyal to your goddamn team. But you can go to all the places. If you're willing to make those sacrifices and truly go after it. Go after it with everything you've got and all the resources that are available. And I don't see some people doing that. Some people, and there's no names, I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with going and doing what could be offered.

No, not at all. And look, I represent Nebraska, and I'm here training in Denver. It doesn't mean that I'm representing Nebraska any less because I'm doing my camp in Colorado right now. It's just you got to seek out the partners. Sometimes you got to isolate yourself. You got to get away from your comfort zone. You got to get out of your element and be uncomfortable. I think that would be great for Sears gun. It doesn't make him any less of a Parisian fighter. Is that how you say it? Parisian?

Look.

At me all cultured and shit.

I know. You've been there one time and now look at me walking around with a bloody quince on.

Yeah, either way. I think that that's something that's throwing around particular advantage of. Because if it was offered to me, I would. I'll tell you that.

Yeah, no, without question. And who wouldn't want to train with Khabib?

Right.

Khabib. Khabib. I know you haven't got too much time, Anthony. In fact, how much time do you have, be honest?

Like eight minutes.

Eight minutes. Eight minutes. All right. Is there one more breaking news story, Harrington, or should we move on to questions? I don't mind doing questions by myself, but I know people have them for me and Anthony. Or is there a big story that we didn't get to? Oh, Carl McGregor, Dana White. Did we talk about this last week? I don't think we did.

I don't think so.

Yeah. So apparently, go on, Harrington, set the scene real quick. And then, Anthony, whenever you got to go, just say, Listen, I got to get out of here. And I guess you can leave me with these two rep of baits. But go ahead, Harrington.

I've been called worse. So Dana White came out on a one of the post fight press. I think it was for the John Jones card. And he said that there was an altercation already. There was a dust up in filming for Tough. He said if he was a younger man, he would have jumped in. Amy Kaplan from fanside was the first to report on the details. She said apparently somebody was K. O. D. During filming. Mcgregor jumped in the cage and shoved Chandler. Someone got slapped and the teams rushed the stage. Nevada State athletic commission broke it up and she's promising a video interview to come.

Yeah, that's just tremendous promo, isn't it? But are we surprised? Are you surprised that we got into it? Come on.

No. Conner knows what he's doing. He's a businessman. He's going to do a whole show with the ultimate fighter, getting along with Michael Chandler. There, no way. You got to.

Maintain the character. Well, it's not just that. That's who he is as well. He likes a bit of confrontation. That's who he is in his DNA. We said before, I can't imagine McGregor turning and running away. But we should because it's significantly smaller than Jake. But even still, Chandler is literally one of the nicest guys ever.

The nicest.

He's the classiest.

I don't know how you don't get along with that guy. What does Michael Chandler get mad about? What do you think? What do you think an argument between Chandler and his wife sounds like?

So I was at the apex. I don't know. I don't know. I met his wife at the fight as well. What was she called? Lovely, lovely, lovely. Lovely lady. He's the nicest guy ever. He really is. And last week I was at the Apex all week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I saw, because they're filming the ultimate fight of the day. When I was not busy, I went for a little wander and I found myself wandering past and I spoke to a few of the guys on the teams and asked some questions. Obviously, I can't say anything because the guys were like, Oh, I can't say anything to you. I'm like, Bro, what are you talking about? Look where I am. I work for the UFC. You can tell me stuff and I'm not going to make it public. I know I have to keep my mouth shut, but... And I keep bumping into Michael Chandler. And at first when I saw him, I think I mentioned this a few weeks ago, he's like, No, Conner's been cool. Connor's been great. He's been really cordial. Well, that's all gone out the fucking window now. And it had to happen.

It had to happen. But that's what we want to see. That sells the fight so much more. But are you surprised, Anthony?

No, I'm not surprised at all. I just think, number one, I think Connor, even if he didn't want to be confrontational, I think he has to be because nice Connor isn't a successful Connor. I guess the cowboy thing, they were pretty cordial with each other. So that went okay. But the Michael Chandler thing or the Dotson Poirier thing when they were just too nice to each other. The five times Connor. Yeah, that didn't go well. I think he needs to be angry. I think he knows that. I think he creates drama on purpose because he needs it to fuel himself. I really do believe that.

And anytime you're filming the ultimate fighter, when you're around the other person, the other coach for that amount of time, and when you know that you're going to fight, tempers sometimes overboil. You know what I'm saying? Because you're around each other, you're filming, the schedule is relentless, it's very busy. Sometimes you just have to, because the situation, dance to the other person's tune. You know what I mean? Maybe you're going to wait for them to finish in the gym and you're waiting for your session to start. It's like, come on, motherfucker. And you're like, well, hold on a minute. We've gone over a bit. We're stretching or whatever it is. There's all these little things that cause you to get irritated with one another.

And then, of course, when... And then the producers are like, Hey, Michael's running a little late over there. You're going to let him do that?

Yeah, exactly. They're still in the part. And then one of your fighters loses or wins or whatever, and then you get emotional and it all kicks off. But that's why we love it. Right. Anyway, we're going to do one question with the answer, and then you're going to run and I'll do the rest. But if you do have a question, please send them into BY and M pod@gmail. Com. Make them good. They've been terrible lately. If you're.

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What do we have, Brian?

All right, so we're going to make this one a good one, Brian. First question we have here is from Adam Tor.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Brian. Is it cold where you are? You look like you're freezing. Is it really cold?

It's pretty cold. I also keep my window open so my computer doesn't blow up because it gets super hot.

Okay. Nice. Just checking on your temperature status.

Yeah, I got a window open. Up and right next to me.

Good lad. Good lad.

First question here is from Adam Torne. He has questions about the weekend.

Hey, Adam here from England. My question is about fence grabs. Obviously, it can have a huge impact on a fight. W e saw a recent fight between Asensio and Grant, the English guy who won.

But.

It was controversial fence grab in the late rounds, which potentially stopped Raphael Asensio losing position. Ultimately, they stood up and he lost.

The.

Fight. Keith Peterson did take the point off, but what's your view on these fence grabs? I mean, is a point off enough? Is it too much? Is the removal of position or subsequently the return.

To a.

Position an adequate.

Response for that?

It can have a big impact on a fight. I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on how best to deal with that going forward. Interesting point. Harrington, you need to grab a load of fucking fences when this baby comes. So good luck with that fight. And yeah, see you guys soon. Cheers. Harrington's grabbing the fences. Real quick, then, what do I think about fence grabs? Yes, of course, they can massively impact the fight in terms of stopping a take down. And that's all it is. That's what we're talking about here. Someone tries to take down, you grab the fence, you don't get taken down. I think continual fence grabs, yeah, take a point. But I think I've heard that some referees, if it's blatant that the fence grab stopped the take down, they will take a point off. I think that's a little too much. I think what they should do is stop the fight and then put you down on the ground and say, Hey, if you didn't grab that fence, you would have got taken down. So we're going to put you on the ground. Okay? And you say to your opponent, What do you want?

Second round? Oh God, what do you want? Because that's the price you got to damn pay. And if you continue to do it, then yeah, maybe take a point. But I think for taking a point in a three round fight.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

Yeah, it's a lot. I think what he's referring to in the D avid... If I remember right, Assanso was winning the fight. And he, Assanso had a dominant position. And I think David Grant was working back to his feet. And I think he grabbed the fence to help him. So then they broke the action, separated them, took the position away from Suns out, but took a point from David Grant, and then Grant landed a spinning attack and then dropped him and then choked him. So I think that's what he's talking about. I agree with everything that you said, Mike, as far as sometimes I think taking a point at some times is a little much. But also in the Alexander Volkoff fight, to be fair to Romanov, Romanov had the take down clean and Volkoff did grab the fence and it did hold him up, which eventually really led to Romanoff getting gas from trying to take him down and he got finished. So I think that probably would have been the result of the fight anyways, but I guess that's not really the point. That might have been a situation where you, like you said, you got to stop the action, stop the fight, and take the position away because obviously Romanoff would have gotten that take down very clearly had it not been for the Fed's grab.

That was a pretty bad one.

Yeah, I'm very annoyed. I didn't really see all of David Grant's fight.

I was in and out watching that one, but I think that's how it went down. I don't know. I'm not 100 % for sure.

No, I'm sure it is. But I'm glad you pointed that out because I wasn't able to reference that. And apologies, David, if you see this trust me, I wanted to watch it so badly, but I was working. Because sometimes for some people, it's just instinct. And yes, of course.

When you're falling, you grab. That's just part of it.

A lot of the time, and I know this when I've done it, you don't consciously think, Oh, I'm going to grab the fence. You just do it because the adrenaline is flowing and all the rest of it. It goes back to what I said before, trying to remain your emotions level headed and all the rest of it. But it's hard and you're fighting and the adrenaline goes and you grab the fence. If it's a clear fence grab and you stop the take down, I say put them on the ground. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Down you go. Now, as a side controller or in guard, that should be the new rule.

I agree. You're out of here.

Yeah, no, you're out of here.

Come on. Yeah, I probably should.

You don't have to. Is that where you're going to get the conditioning?

Yeah, straight to conditioning.

And what type of stuff will you be doing?

It's a lifting day today, so it's more of a strength day.

Heavy, low reps?

Today will be heavy, low reps, yeah.

Lots of legs?

No, it'll be a full body one today. You got to go all over the place. It used to.

Piss me off. Scott Prohaska, who I used to use, great guy, we're friends, and he's a very smart guy. The fucking squats and the slide pushes. Oh, my God. I fucking hate squats. And the dead lifts and all that shit. And we do that on a Monday night, the first one. I'd say, can we do the leg one at the end of the week? Because you're not the motherfucker that has to show up to sparring tomorrow and get kicked in the legs and you can hardly walk and you don't sit on the toilet because your legs are so sore you get to that.

And then your ass cheeks hurt and you fall on them.

You get halfway down to the toilet and then you just have to aim and collapse because they're so painful you can't fully control the sit down. You know this.

Phenomenon, Anthony? You're speaking my language.

God, I don't miss those days. I'd say I do miss having a better six pack, but I don't miss those days. All right, Anthony, enjoy the straight up conditioning. I'll let you get out of it, man.

To you, M ike, and the boys and all the believers. Sorry, I got a jet. Training camp is a motherfucker. I'll be better.

Get out of it. Hang up. Push the button. You're just dragging the You're bringing the show down now. There he is. He's gone. Do we have any more?

We do have another question. I was just going to say...

Do we have two more or one more?

We got two. Anthony can make it up to us by getting that W. That's what I'm saying.

100 %, exactly. Let's do the two then. What do we have?

All right, so next question here is from Caleb Young. He has a question about staying in shape training. What's up, guys? Caleb Young, coming to you from the farm in East Texas. Last time we spoke, I was about to propose, and now I'm engaged. So that's good stuff. But today I've got a question for Lionheart and the count about sparring. I'm wondering how often should I be sparring as a new boxer? Max Halloween has talked about how he's cut way back on his sparring regiment. I think to save his brain cells, basically, because once you lose those guys, you never get them back. So I've trained Jutsu for several years, and I'm just getting into boxing, and I'm wondering how often should I be going those live rounds? I would hate to overspur and have early onset brain damage due to that and just get my head battered around too often and have to quit the sport early. Versus I know I'm not Max Bloods, H all away. I know I'm going to have to get in there and do those live rounds to figure out what I'm doing and to sharpen up my tools.

So where can the balance be struck? How much sparring is beneficial? How much sparing is detrimental? Yeah, thank you all for the help. I appreciate it. And Anthony Smith, I really loved your segment last week in Vegas where you were sitting around the table with all of John John's other children. Anyway, love you guys. Much love. Thank you for all your help and all you do for us. Peace.

Peace out indeed. I guess I must be invisible. Now, good question. What is the correct amount of sparring? And this is highly debated all the time. Some people, like Max Hollaway said, they've eradicated sparing from their preparation. Some people say you got to train hard. You got to train the way that you're going to fight. You got to remember, Max Hollaway is one of the greatest featherweights we've ever seen. So he's done a lot of sparing. He has the time, he has the experience, and he has the accolades to go with it. The money, the wealth, the fame as well. Sparing is absolutely necessary. You have to spur. It's as simple as that. Because spurring is the most tiring aspect of mixed martial arts. You're actually fighting. If you want to get better at tennis, football, cricket, whatever it is, go play those sports. You want to get better at fighting? You've got to practise the fighting. It's all well and good drilling. It's all well and good practicing the moves. But you've got to do it against a real live opponent that's trying to hit you back. You've got when you're with your pads, your pad man, your trainer, you can look all well and fancy on the pads doing these beautiful combinations, slipping the shots and all the rest rolling gun.

Try doing that against another man, though, that's avoiding you, that's avoiding your shots and trying to hit you back. That is a completely different kettle of fish. And you only get that ability by sparring people. You only get the ability to stay calm under fire by sparring. When you go in there and you're sparring someone that maybe is better than you that day, or maybe he's just better generally, and you're having a tough time, you got to work on your defence. You got to work on staying calm. You got to work on everything, your footwork, getting away, just trying to survive. Because sometimes in a fight, you're in survival mode. Sometimes you've been rocked and your opponents coming, you only developed those skills, that mentality, that maturity to deal with a situation like that when you've been through sparring. I remember many times sparring when I first started. I remember this boxer and he was just bloody brilliant. He was so good with the hands and it makes you better. And you don't get to feel his power or recognise his advantages until you put the gloves on and you say, Spar, fight, whatever it is.

You're going to go round after round. It will get you in the best shape. It will get your timing great. It will get your... Well, you'll get the feedback as well. You know if you're generating power because you'll know if your shots are affecting your opponent. Now, that doesn't mean that you're going to try and knock your opponent out because you should not be doing that in sparring. You should be training decently. You should have an aspect of your punches where it's hard enough to hit them, to make them to not want to get hit again, but not so hard that you're going to do damage because you want to spiral this guy over and over again. If you get a good spa partner, you want to rely on that resource a lot. But that's the whole thing. You got to have a sparring partner that you can trust, a guy that when you do get tired, isn't going to tee off on your face. I remember they call the what do they call them? Shark tanks, they call them now, where I would spa and I would have a different man every minute, a different guy would jump in every minute for 15 minutes.

And in fact, I've done it in some places where they change every 30 seconds. Well, every 30 seconds is stupid. Every minute, in fact, is stupid. The way I would do it towards the end of my training camp was every two and a half minutes. The reason I would do two and a half minutes and not a minute is because the round could actually unfold. You can create some traps. You can start to dictate a game plan. When it's just a minute, it's just a full on sprint and then the next guy comes in. And of course, you're going to get tired. And by the third round, you're blowing out of your ass. And you got to have guys you can trust that are going to now go, look, he's exhausted, he's tired. He can hardly hold his hand up. Hold his hands up. And now I'm going to try and knock him out and embarrass him. Nobody wants that. But of course, the downside of sparring, though, because there is many, many upsides that I just went through. The downside is, of course, injury, short term and long term. Long term, of course, you're adding the shots to the head.

Short term injury, clashing chin bones, cuts, getting a bloody nose, a bus slip, catching someone with your elbow. Maybe you clash heads in sparring. That's a common one. So it's very dangerous, obviously, because of the injury side of things. But of course, long term is the main thing that you want to worry about. And it's a fine line. What is the correct amount where you have to spur? You just got to spur? I'm sorry, if anyone says that you shouldn't spur, I disagree with that. The reality is this is a tough business. It's a really tough sport and you've got to get ready for a fight by preparing for a fight by spurring. And you have to train the way you're going to fight. If you don't do that, you're going to be exposed in the fight. You're going to get tired really quick. You're going to get shocked. You're going to get flusted. You're going to get overwhelmed. You're not going to know how to react in certain circumstances. You're going to panic when you put it in a bad position. That's why sparring and going through all of those things, they can be simulated.

They can be controlled. They can be 50 % power. There's lots of limitations you can put on it, but it's got to be done. It isn't necessarily evil. Thank you for your question. I went on quite a little run there. But Brian, do we have one more?

Yeah, I got one more here from Mr. Jordan McDonald. We may.

Have answered this.

One before, but he's pretty entertaining.

Okay, let's take a look. My question today, Wyatt.

Is what's.

The most craziest interaction you've had with a fan?

And what's the most craziest interaction you've had with someone who don't like you? And, Hamilton, I love you.

I would probably make the craziest interaction because I would run down, right? I'd give.

Big hug.

You know what I mean, Harrington? I love.

You that much.

Everybody loves you, Harrington. Without you, there would be no Believe You Me podcast. Oh, Harrington, get him on here. I feel weird just being on here by myself. It's like a lone little barren wasteland.

I don't want to leave you hanging, Mike.

No, he loves you, Harrington.

Yeah, man. I do. I guess it for all the FU Harringtons I get, there's quite a bit of love nowadays. It's very nice.

Well, the FU Harringtons are a form of love, let's be honest. You know that. They're all the busting your balls and they want to send a little message your way.

Appreciate it. I do.

And yeah, I have lines.

Dude, I'll be honest with you, when we went to the card at MSG, I had about half a dozen people stop me. Yo, it's good to see you, man. Nobody asked for a picture, weirdly enough. But everybody said hello.

Hey, one day, something to aspire to. You're going to get there. You're going to get there. Weirdest fan interaction. Nothing springs to mind, if I'm honest. What about you, Howard? In terms of maybe other people, not yourself or other people, what is the weirdest interaction you've seen from a fan with somebody else?

Well, I had a bad interaction as a fan the first time I met you, but other than that...

What.

Was that? I'm kidding. I showed you I had you as the background of my phone for about 18 months before I met you. You. I think it's a big John is like grabbing you by the neck, dragging you off with the big California state athletic MMA. It's such a cool picture of you just like, I did it. I knocked him out. And you were like, Yeah, I couldn't be bothered. Then I asked for a picture. And I think he took a picture of yourself. You just did a selfie. It was pretty funny.

Yeah, I've busted your balls.

No, that's why I said it was funny.

Seems like Harrington just came off as a punisher there.

Yeah, he just took this, trying to make me look bad.

Yes, Brian? I have a pretty weird fan interaction with one of your fans when we were in Vegas that one time. The dude, there was a guy who ran up to us at the bar and was like, Hey, let me take a picture, whatever. So I took a picture with I took a picture for you and for him with you, right? That's English. And then he was like, Oh, let me get your number. He was texting me because I text him the picture. And he was texting me for the next three days to come hang out. It was wild.

Yeah. No, they do like to do that, though. I've been asked for my phone number all the time. I went, No, you can't have my number. Last week after the fight, after the pay per view, we went to a bar in Vegas and there was three dudes and I'm not sitting here talking about how famous I am or anything like that, but it's a UFC event, right? So there's UFC people everywhere. I'm having a drink and I'm chatting away to Sean Shelby and I can see there's three and they were only kids. I say kids that might sound insulting and I'm not trying to be, but they were young. I'm 44 year old man now and I can see them just staring, you know what I mean? And probably thought they probably wanted to come and ask for a picture but didn't have the courage or the nerves or didn't want to interrupt me. They were being polite. But I could see so I went over, I said, Hey, what's up, boys? How are we doing? You're good? You're good? And they were all like, Oh. And there was a girl with them and she comes running over and she legit started crying her eyes out.

She said, You're my favourite person in the world and all the rest of it. And they said they watched the show. So if you three and that young lady, I give her a little like on her Instagram post because you can see where you've been tagged and whatnot. Yeah, she was a very nice girl. The three young boys, they was lovely to see. For all the people that are out there that talk a lot of shit about mixed martial arts, there's a lot of people that really respect and value what they do.

So what is the etiquette? Just wondering. For people who are watching this, what is the etiquette for coming up if somebody wants to get a picture or say hello to you?

Do you know what I really love? And I get it that they all want to get a picture. I hate having these conversations.

All right, I forget.

No, it's fine. It's fine for talking about it. I'm just like, I hate having these conversations because it makes me sound like I think I'm so famous. I don't want to think about it. One little bit. I'm a very normal guy, but people watch the UFC. But I really appreciate it when someone just comes up and gives you a fist bump and says, Hey, big fan, love your work, or whatever. I find that so cool as opposed to them coming up and saying, Can I get a picture? It's like, Yeah, we can. When I'm somewhere where no one knows anything about MMA or whatever, or if I'm in the gym or somewhere like that and I'm just doing my thing, and then someone spots you and they want a picture, I don't mind doing a picture. But the problem is in that situation is that I feel like a dick. I feel like I'm being sent to of attention. You know what I mean? The other day I was waiting for Lucas. He flew into Vegas with his son, with his friend Johnny, and I was picking him up at the gate. Unaccompanied minus, I had to get a pass and walk through the freeway.

So I was waiting at the gate and there's a bunch of people queuing up there. So one guy wanted a picture. I said, Yeah, sure, no problem. But then everyone else starts looking back. Who are you? What do you do? Let me get a picture. I'm like, You don't want a picture. They're like, But you're famous. I'm like, I'm not famous. I'm not famous. And you don't give a fuck who I am anyway. So why are we going through this charade? Anyway, conversations like this are very cringy. When's the baby due, Hamilton? Not long now.

Less than 10 days. It's week and a half yesterday. So it could be the doula on Friday said literally any day she wants to come.

Yeah, it is. It's literally any time. I mean, Calle was nine weeks premature. So you could be literally any day now. And let's remind the viewers and the believers that you're the reason that the live BYM tour isn't happening in London this weekend.

You have.

To bring that up.

You have to bring that up. Well, as that guy said, the show wouldn't be the show without it. We can't do that. We can't go half, half coked.

It's a good way to put it.

Well, I appreciate it. I mean, three quarters is still pretty good, but I appreciate that I'm that valuable that we called it.

Well, anyway, we're going to do a big in-depth preview of the pay per view this week and talk about all of that stuff. Lee and it's Kamara who's got a big, big, massive fight. I'll be in London, so we're going to prerecord it, but it will be dropping on Thursday. See you then.