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Harrington. How we doing?

I'm doing excellent. Michael Bisping, how are you, sir?

I am very, very good. Ladies and gentlemen, big show planned today. We are going to be joined by the bantamweight champion of the world, the man that just put on one of the best performances, I think that we've seen in recent memory. I am, of course, talking about sugar, Sean O'Malley. He'll be joining the show. Also, we got UFC 300s Bo nickel. He will be with us in just a minute. Until then. And I'm talking about four minutes, guys, so don't turn off the podcast right now. You got about four minutes of me in Harrington. Bo Nickel is going to join first and then Sean O'Malley. Harrington, as always, a pleasure. Brian, in the background. Thank you very much. Harrington, I've seen what you put in number one in the notes, and to be fair, it's kind of a big story in MMA, although I'm not 100% convinced. I am, of course, talking about the notorious one, Connor McGregor. The floor is yours.

So he went on the MMA hour as well as a number of other places, had, like a long sit down interview with Brad Akamoto. Pretty much anybody with a microphone in the MMA space has spoken to Conor McGregor this week, and he said the same thing in every single one, that he is back. He has talked to the UFC, ready to get rocking and rolling for a fight this summer.

So I'm very happy where I am now. The call has been made and we're mean. What does that mean?

The call has been.

This means this summer that Mac is back. So I'm happy with my time. I've gotten the lead up to it. I'm happy with where I'm at, and everything just works out in God's name, and I'm ecstatic. We don't want to get demonetized by Ariel Helwani. I'll say this, he's looking a little slimmer. He's looking not quite as bulky. He says that he got the call. So the call that I assume that he's talking about will be a call from the UFC saying, listen, everything's good. We're ready to book a fight. There's no USADA issues, remember, that was kind of a stumbling block for a while. You had to do the six months and all the rest of it. However, we have heard this before. He did say that he was coming back at 185 pounds against Michael Chandler. I think off the top of my head, there's been two or three times that he said this. I guess when we get an announcement from the UFC, that's when it will feel a little bit more real. I don't assume that he's lying. He's not talking out of his ass, but he's done this before. He said that he's retiring before as well.

Many know fair play is doing the rounds right now promoting roadhouse. A lot of people saying good stuff about it. I'm looking forward to seeing it. But Saturday night, there's a big night of fights. Is it Rosena Eunice this week?

Rosenama Eunice versus Amanda Hebos?

Amanda Hebas. That's a good fight. So if Dana's there, he will no doubt be asked about this. So I guess we'll get some clarification from the UFC Saturday night. But when he says summer, does that mean international fight week? Does it mean, you know, I don't know, it could be a few months away.

Know, you are leaving yourself a pretty big window to sneak in there. But with everything that he said, I would have to imagine he's still targeting that end of June card. I think it's 303. International fight week.

Is it really? Okay, whatever. Three or three international fight week. I haven't been marking them down, counting them off. I haven't been counting down the days.

Really. You don't have your UFC pay per view advent calendar?

I do, and every day I'll strike one off. It's like woohoo, let's go. But UFC 300 just around the corner. I'm excited for that one. That's going to be a landmark event. Bo nickel jumping on the card shortly. Jamal Hill, top of the bill. So we're going to talk about that stuff. We've got a few little fun non MMA stories as well. But Conor McGregor, Michael Chandler. Okay, let's just take his word for it. It's going to go down. What's your early prediction there? I think it's going to listen. Michael Chandler, I did a video yesterday. I mean, this guy's been waiting. He's been lifting, he's been running, he's been meditating, he's been manifesting, he's been doing anything that ends in an ing. He's been doing it. Do you know what I mean? Poor old Michael Chandler has been waiting in the wings. He's been waiting. What else has he been doing? He's been lifting, he's been pontificating he's been youtubing. He's been interviewing.

A bit of commiserating every now and then.

Commiserating, for sure. He's been promoting on, you know, there's a few more ings. Whatever it is poor old Michael Chandler has been doing, you know, he's kind of hitable. McGregor does have good hands. It's going to be an interesting fight. Is he going to be in condition? We don't know. That remains to be seen. What else have we got, Hamilton, while we wait for our good friend Bo nickel to jump on?

Well, it also remains to be seen. I thought this was just an interesting talking point about it. He said, I'm not sure if I want to do a three round or a five round fight. He said, I might just want to come in and do a three rounder to get my beak wet. So I'm wondering, could that mean he's willing to take a co main event.

Spot, you know what I mean, and.

Just have that three round fight versus a special three round main event? That seems weird.

Yeah, I can't see that. I mean, listen, Conor McGregor makes history, you know what I mean? McGregor. If they'll do it for anyone, it will be Conor McGregor. But I just don't know. I just don't know. It's interesting that he says that. Obviously, that would have me thinking. I mean, you don't have to be a genius to extrapolate this, that he has caused concerns of his conditioning. That's what that would lead me to believe. But the opponent doesn't change three round main event. That's old school. When did they change it to five rounds? I don't know what year that was.

I'm going to take a guess and say 2014.

2014. Do you know that or are you literally guessing?

Literally a guess off top of my head.

I think it's probably around there. No, but when I fought Vito Belfort, 2013, that was a five round fight.

Oh, okay, so I'm wrong.

The game plan was veto with his big muscles, pin him up against the fence, make him wrestle, get him tired, and take him out the later rounds. Great plan. I said to God, bingod in round two.

It says here June 10, 2011 was the day or two after he announced it.

Okay, Rosenama, Eunice, we're just filling a moment while we wait for Bo Nickel. Hopefully he doesn't let us down.

Bo nickel seems.

Oh, my God. Speak of the devil. There he is. And he shall appear. I was literally just about to say, bo Nickel doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to let one seem like a very dependable guy. Bo.

Yeah, I try to be. I try to be, for sure.

It's that wrestling mentality. The discipline just built into, you know, it's interesting.

I didn't really realize that people were late to practice or missed. That was never really an occurrence to me until I started fighting MMA, and now I'm like, oh, wow, okay, that's interesting, but not my style.

Well, no, exactly. In the wrestling room, that will not fly. But I'm sure at this point now, you must be accustomed to brazilian time.

Yeah, I am. I'm fortunate. I have two brazilian coaches, and they're like, I think the anomalies because they're always ready to go. So I think I've been fortunate. I've seen other people, and it's its own thing, for sure.

It used to piss me off, man. It used to piss me off because I would drive when I was back in England. It was like an 80 minutes drive to the gym, and I'll still get there on time. And all the people that lived, like 510 minutes away, they'd rock in, like, 2030 minutes late. What the hell are we doing, guys? Anyway, Bo, thank you for joining us. I appreciate your time today. How is preparation for the big UFC 300 going?

Prep has been great. I feel awesome. I think that it's been obviously a long time since I was able to compete last, and I think that's been a really good thing for me, just to continue to grow and develop and mature as a mixed martial artist and just with everything happening as fast as it has, that time has been really beneficial for me. So I feel really just excited to compete. I think I've made a lot of gains and improvements and, yeah, just all healthy and everything, so feeling grateful for that and just excited to get out there and fight again.

Yeah. July 2023. Sorry, I was just looking up the fight card there as you were talking. So it's going to be, what, eight, nine months or so? So that is quite a break. Certainly when you're starting off your career. What has been a big focus for you in that time?

I think just overall development. Right. Because of how quick my trajectory has kind of shot me up into where I'm at in my position within the sport. I feel like I just needed time to let my other skills develop. Of course, striking is a big part of that, so I've been working on a lot of striking, but mostly just, like, fundamental stuff. I think that people, a lot of times developing, maybe skip the fundamentals of a lot of certain different aspects of combat sports when you're in MMA, because it's like, all right, well, this is how to throw a jab, and then all of a sudden, you're sparring, and I don't know that's necessarily the best way to get better quickly and improve. So, for me, it's always back to the fundamentals. And that was actually something for me that I had to relearn getting into collegiate wrestling. I was always a really good wrestler, really competitive. I knew how to win. But you almost have to relearn the fundamentals when you get to a new level. And so for me, I try to take that same mindset and apply that to now I'm learning boxing and kickboxing and Moitai and jiu jitsu.

And then it's my job to take all those fundamentals and all that solid technique and figure out how to blend it and then combine it to make it work for me in a mixed martial arts fight. Right. Because at the same time, while it's good to know those fundamentals and the basics, it's still MMA.

Yeah. No, for sure. The fundamentals, they're often so overlooked because people want to do the spinning wheel kicks. They want to do a flying knee. They want to do these big, outlandish, show stealing moments or moves. Should I say, as you were saying, that I thought about this. Have you noticed, and I don't expect you to criticize mixed martial arts training because it would seem elitist of you, but where I'm going with this is. So you've been a wrestler at the highest level pretty much your entire life. Wrestling has been around for a very long time, so I'm assuming there is a tried and tested, proven method of how to train wrestlers. You know what I mean? You do your drills, you do your warm up, you do your drilling, you do your lives, you do your situational stuff, mixed martial arts. With it being such a young sport, I've experienced good coaches, bad coaches. I've experienced coaches that don't really know what they're doing. I've experienced coaches that are kind of making it up as they go along, and they're kind of lying to everybody in the room. What has been your kind of experience in that regard, and have you had any frustrations along the way?

Oh, for sure. I think that initially, getting into it, you just really don't know who actually knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. And so, for me, there's been just a learning curve of trying to figure that out. And I think that when.

I look.

At coaches and people that I respect and want to listen to, they all have one thing in common, and that's like a system, right?

Yes.

They analyze and they collect data, and then they have a system of how they're going to go about whatever it is they're coaching and positionally teach people kind of conceptually rather than like, all right, this is going to be the combo today. We're going to throw a jab, cross hook, and then shoot. It's like, well, that's not how a fight goes. It's not choreography. But when you have a system and when you can kind of think about it positionally, that's when it clicks to me. And I feel like that guy, that coach, is somebody that I trust and who I feel like knows what they're actually talking about. And so that's, I think in wrestling, kind of a standard, right? There's a lot of different systems for different programs and different coaches, but it's like they all have almost a curriculum of sorts that they teach and they go over stuff year in, year out, whether that's with guys that have been in the program for a long time or new guys coming in. That's how it was for us at Penn State. We all have certain positions that we're going over and training on a very regular basis, so that way it just takes a lot of the guesswork out.

Yeah, no, absolutely. So you're five and all still very young in your career, but it seems like you're a smart guy. It seems like you got a good head on your shoulders and a good understanding of the game and what you're saying there about systems and things. One of the things that is a big challenge for fighters is when you're in a fight, it's such a high adrenaline moment, you know what I mean? You're always talking about calming yourself down. I used to try and get angry and mad, which I learned through trial and error is not the way to be. You want to try and slow it all down in your mind. How are you when you're in there, it's only five fights. How in control of your emotions are you at this stage of your career?

I feel really relaxed and really calm, and I think that while I've only had five fights, I think that just is through thousands of wrestling matches and competing, something that's really cool, the NCAA wrestling tournaments this weekend. So I'm kind of watching on television and stuff, and these guys are going to wrestle the guys who win are going to wrestle five matches in front of 30,000 people across three days. So that's, to me, more than enough preparation to keep a cool head in an MMA fight. And it is more pressure and it is more intense MMA for sure. But I feel like because I have that experience with me, I feel prepared for it, right. That's something that I think I'm head and shoulders above the rest of my competition as far as how to keep a level head in those intense moments, because just nobody has that experience like I have. And it was something that I was used to as a kid in high school and college, just big matches, big crowds, environments, and now it's just another step up. But I feel prepared.

So let me ask you this, and don't take this the wrong way. It's a question. It's not an accusation or anything. In fighting, you got to be able to be the hammer and the nail at times. So far, you've been the hammer every single time. Round one. Round one. All five wins are in the first round. How do you. And for your sake, I hope it continues like that. That's what we all want. But one would think at some point you're going to run into a bit of adversity. Someone's going to be able to give you a good test. You're not Superman at the end of the day. Have you thought about that? I mean, are you able to take a kick in and keep on?

Absolutely. You know, I think that initially, of course, I want my hardest training moments and competition or, excuse me, my hardest moments to come in training rather than competition. So that's why I'm putting myself in environments like american top team. I was able to spend a few weeks down in Florida for this camp, so I'm training with some of the top guys in the world, Marvin Vittori, Johnny Eblin, guys like this who are extremely seasoned and have fought the best of the, you know, I think that.

For me, I bet Marvin hates going with you because I know Marvin. He's a friend of mine. Do you know what nickel in the room is, for crying out loud? Listen, we want to get better at takedown defense, but I want to get some work in, for crying out know.

I think we're great for each other. Know, while obviously I have a wrestling edge, he's just got such a experience in MMA overall, fought for the belt, and that's something that is super valuable. So I think we're really good for each other and we can help each other. Maybe where the other person lacks a little bit. So those are the type of environments I'm putting myself in. And that way, hopefully people say the cliche, right, like, train hard, fight easy, or something like that. But for me, I honestly kind of am excited for the idea of somebody being able to make it passed around with me or to hit me or just put me in a position where I have to. They resist me a little bit because it's literally been zero resistance for my whole career. So for me, as a competitor, as somebody who. I'm doing this sport because I love it, because I enjoy it, I want to continue to get better and improve. I want to feel that adversity, and I want to feel a little resistance. So hopefully my next opponent can do that, and I would love it if I could make it to the second round.

So for me, that's something I'm looking forward to more so than dreading. Not that I want to get hit, getting hits, never fun, but I want to feel like some type of resistance against because that's going to happen at some point. I have no doubt about that.

Yeah, I'm smirking here not because of the audacity of you. It's because I know what you're capable of. And I'm not kissing your ass or anything like that, but it's an unusual desire. You know what I mean? I want to meet the man that can push me or even get me to the second man. And as I say, I know you're not saying that from a position of arrogance. You're just aware of your capabilities. So talk to me about Cody Brundage. Cody Brundage, he's a big, strong guy. Last time he took out Zachary Reese, it was a slam in the first round. Took out Jacob Malcolm before that. Yeah. How do you assess this guy?

Yeah, I think a, he's a dangerous opponent. I think he's a step up from the competition that I've had in the past, which is good for me. I want to continue to take incremental steps up in competition. He has a few UFC wins, and obviously, a lot of people have seen his last fight with a slam knockout, and he comes from a wrestling background, as well, so he's a collegiate wrestler, so I think that he poses a few problems that maybe I haven't had to deal with in a real fight before. That being said, I feel like I'm very well prepared for this. And going into the fight, just a guy that you got to respect because he has big power. He has, like I said, a slam knockout. He has a knockout off a counterpunch. He has knockdowns on multiple guys, like in the UFC, so definitely big power, but at the same time, I think that for me, I have better cardio. I feel like I fight a little bit more intelligently, and I think I'm honestly, he's probably been fighting quite a bit longer than me, but I think I'm much more well rounded, even considering I'm less experienced.

So I feel like wherever the fight goes, I'll be prepared for that. And my style is go for the finish. So position, I'll be in there making sure. I just don't see him lasting with me for too long. But I think wherever the fight goes, I'll be ready to just continue to be in good position and then finish the fight, whether that's on the feet or on the ground.

Yes, and I look forward to that test. You must have seen a little bit of negativity from people talking about the position of you on this landmark event, right? I mean, people are going to hate. They talk shit just for the sake of it. What is your take on all of this?

I think it's kind of funny. I just feel like it's weird that people would be mad about that just because it has nothing. It's not my decision, so you could be mad at me for where I'm at, but it doesn't change it, really, and I'm just grateful for the opportunity to compete on this card. It's an amazing card. There's so many amazing fighters, and I just feel like the fans don't realize a couple of things. One, no matter where you fight on the card, you're getting paid the same and the pay per view costs the same. You're still going to be able to watch the fight. It doesn't really matter.

Good point.

Unless you're main event or co main event, it's kind of a wash. So if they put me first card or first fight on the prelims or wherever, I wouldn't really care because I just want to fight and I would actually rather go earlier. That way I can get home and just enjoy my evening and not have to be out so late. But, yeah, for me, I think the benefit of being on the main card is my opponent won't have ever really experienced something like that. I've already been on the main card in two UFC fights, two big events as well, 285 and 290. And so I know what that's going to feel like, and I think that's just another tactical advantage. For me, and it's interesting. A lot of people have said a lot of things before my fights, but whenever I get in the arena, it seems like everybody's cheering for me. Maybe that's all I hear, but that's what it seems.

No, I agree. The last fight, when you walked out, in fact, both of them, actually, the two on pay per view, whenever you walked out, you got a good pop. You've definitely got the american fan base behind you, and rightly so, as mixed martial arts. In fact, before I get to that, I'll ask you this. There doesn't seem to be any controversy around you. There's no shit talk. Yes, of course you're confident in your abilities. At what point do you think, what would somebody have to say to really get under your skin, to have Bo nickel kind of lose his shit a little bit?

I don't know.

You've got the whole, I'm representing America. Like, if you're traveling international with the wrestling team, you're representing your country, and you've got that whole vibe. But what if you're at a press conference and someone says something about you? Listen, I'll show you in the ring. At what point do we get that.

Feel like?

I'm not sure. I feel like, again, like you said, I'm a nice guy. I keep it pretty classy, and there's no doubt that at some point somebody's going to try to get in my head and this and that, but I feel like that doesn't really have any effect on me because I just fight because I love it. I fight because I enjoy it. It's what I want to do. There's a lot of different things I could be doing right now, but I guess to me, when I get into the ring, it's just emotionless. It doesn't matter who my opponent is or what they've said. I want to win because of my own internal motivation not to be any guy or because they say anything. So any shit talk or whatever that somebody could say, it's really pretty irrelevant to me. And, yeah, I feel like that's not really relevant. I don't know. I'm here to win the fight, and I'm here to know the UFC champion, the pound for pound, number one fighter in the world. Everything else, to me, it means nothing. So when I see an opponent across, it's just like a body that I'm going to go, like, maul.

It doesn't even matter. It's not personal at all. So again, this next dude, I'm super happy and grateful that he signed the fight. I don't understand why guys are agreeing to fight me. Hopefully the UFC is paying him well, and hopefully they can just see that's.

Really good passive aggressive shit talk. Right?

Just like, I don't know, what do they expect?

Why did these guys take this fight? I just don't get it. They think they're going to beat me. Yeah.

And I just think that, too, if they want to, I guess, talk. It doesn't really matter because it's like, dude, you're going to get the same me regardless. So it doesn't motivate me anymore or make me any more emotional about it. I don't know. You brought it up earlier. You try to get angry before fights.

Which was the biggest mistake I've ever made. Yeah.

So I feel like there's no point in that. So this person literally has no relevance or nothing in my life. Like, if I had a close friend that was talking crap, I'd be like, dude, we have a problem. That upsets me, but this guy's just a random dude, so you're getting it regardless.

Yeah, no, that's actually really smart. As you say, this guy's nothing in your personal life, so why should that trigger your emotions? Yeah, very smart. Very smart. So you're doing this for fun. You're doing this because you're a natural fighter, but are you a fan? Would you say you're a fan of mixed martial arts in the UFC?

I would definitely say I'm a fan. I love the sport. I've been watching MMA and the UFC for a long, a long, long time, and it's something that I really appreciate the growth of the sport, the way it's changed and how it's become mainstream. And, yeah, there's a lot of fighters and guys that I watch who I respect, their skills, and I think that it's exciting time to be part of the sport, and I feel like it's exciting for me the opportunity to hopefully continue to move that forward and push it forward into maybe bringing more viewers in or into a new level of competitiveness or whatever it is. There's a lot of different ways that I think the sport can be pushed forward, but I think that hopefully I can be a part of that.

So when you're there at the T Mobile arena, it's UFC 300. You're going to have some special signature fight gear, you know what I mean? There's going to be a lot of fanfare, pomp and circumstance and all the rest of it, and I'm bloody jealous because it takes me back to when I fought in UFC 100. When you look at the fight card as a fan, which is the one that you're really most looking forward to.

Oh, man, there's so many good ones.

Oof.

That's a good question. I think that as a fan, the fight I'm looking forward to the most. I'll name two. I think that Charles Oliveira and Armin Sarcurian, that's a freaking amazing fight. Two guys that are so high level, well rounded, definitely, like I just mentioned, kind of pushing that envelope and moving the sport forward. I think both these guys are doing that. And while they are both so skilled, I think they're both skilled in different areas. Obviously, you look at Olivera, his ground game, and fighting off his back, submissions, elbows, big power on the feet, and then you look at know showed big power from his last fight with Benil Dariush, but also just a really tough guy on the ground, more of a top guy. Took down Islam. Makachev had a really close fight with Islam. So that fight, as far as skills go, that's definitely, to me, probably one of the highest level fights on the card.

No, 100% agree. So we're going to let you go in a minute, but I got to ask you this. So you came on here, you said you gave yourself a three year journey to become the champion. So now we're about a year into that. So now it's a two year journey. Everything's going to plan. You're still undefeated. You're on the biggest fight card to happen this year. The champion is Drikus Dupesi. I almost said Sean Strickland.

What am I saying?

The champion is Drikus Duplesi, number one. What did you think about that fight with Sean? And know I thought it was a good fight.

I think from my kind of outside view, it looked like Sean didn't really compete as well as he normally does. I think he's the underdog in a lot of his fights, and it's a different type of pressure and scenario when you're the champ and when you're the guy that people are coming from or that people are coming after. And so I don't feel like he put his best performance together. I think Drikus looks super motivated and he competed very well. But both guys, to me, are very beatable, and both guys, they do things well and they do things not as well. I think for me, if I can continue to improve, get better with my striking and just grappling, overall, obviously, my wrestling is a complete x factor, so I feel like both those guys have skills but have holes. That's kind of the way I saw it.

Okay, so right now, the champ is Dracos and the top five is Drakeus. Sean Izzy Whitaker, Jared cannonier. Let's say two years, let's say four fights for yourself until you get a shot at the belt. Who do you think at that time will be the champion of the world? Have you envisaged that title fight and who do you think it's going to be against?

I guess I'll say this first. I really don't care. It doesn't really matter because like I said, it's not personal to me at all. None of these guys really. I don't really want to beat any of those guys more than the next. Whoever has the Bella is the guy I'll take out. But if I were to kind of have to, as a fan again, predict who the champion would be, I kind of see the way this is going, this division. I feel like a guy that you didn't mention who could be up there is Hamzat and a bad matchup for really all those guys. He would be a tough fight and a bad matchup for all those guys. And so I could see him depending on what he wants to do, if he wants to get back down to 170 or if he wants to just continue to fight at 85, I could see him, like I said, because he's a little bit ahead of me. He's in the rankings now and stuff. He'll probably fight for the belt within one or two fights. It could be his next one, it could be one more.

But I see him probably being the champ, and that's a dude that I would love to fight. I know I said that it's never personal for me, but he's a guy that I feel like just has this crazy reputation who I absolutely have to take out before my career is over. So ideally, we're both undefeated. It's for the belt. We do it in an allegiant stadium, the Raiders stadium, in front of 100,000 people, and I just go do what I do. So that's, to me, like the goal again, if it's not him, doesn't really matter, but that would be ideal.

Yeah. And I'm smiling because it makes all the sense in the world. And you're absolutely right. Stylistically, I think he does have the ability. Of course you do as well, so that'd be great. So let me see right here. You're american. If you become the champion, it'll be another american champ. The other american champ that they had in the middleweight division was Sean Strickland. You could not be any different from Sean Strickland if you paid the. Sorry. If you paid to be. Do you know what? Yeah. What's your thoughts on, you know, I.

Think that for me, I don't really pay attention to all the stuff outside. I saw he had a few interesting quotes in the media and stuff like that before his last fight. And honestly, for the most part, without saying it the way he said it, I agreed with a lot of what he said. I think that.

Careful.

Yeah, I wouldn't put it the way he put it, but I think that he's playing it up a little bit. He's doing his thing for me. I'm always just going to continue to be myself, be organic and natural. I'm not going to ever play a character. And I feel like what's been really nice for me and fortunate for me is I haven't had to do that. And I've also had a big push and a lot of people that want to watch me and support me and stuff like that, probably because I had such a strong wrestling career and now just that momentum coming from that. But, yeah, I think that I'm never going to really be judgmental towards a person because everybody's got to make their own choices and be their own person. But for me, again, I just want to be authentic, be myself. And like I said, I think that I'm in a great position because people actually enjoy that. They want to listen to me. They want to watch me fight. So it's kind of a luxury that I'm grateful for.

Words of wisdom. Words of wisdom. Profound, eloquent, articulate. A monster inside the octagon. Bo, we wish you all the success. Good luck at USC 300. Thanks again for your time today. Really appreciate it. And, yeah, have a great fight. Thank you so much.

I appreciate you.

Take care, Bo. All the best, buddy. All right, Herringbone, get on here. What's going on? There he is. I mean, as I said, profound, eloquent, well spoken, calm demeanor. I mean, non judgmental. He had nothing bad to say. Even Hamza, he's like, yeah, it just excites me to be able to take the zero, I mean, oozing confidence. That's why I was like, God, I just dream about the day someone can take me to round two. But as I say, the reason I was kind of grinning is not because he knows what he's capable of, and his wrestling has shown that. And if you look at another comparable, if you will, would be a Hamza, you know what I mean? When you have that wrestling base, when you're as athletic as he is, he's saying this because he's just simply aware of what he can do to another human being. So that's why he's not delusional. Anyway, I will allow you to speak.

Dude, I was cracking up in the background because I've been waiting for a UFC fighter to say that for 15 years now. Like, why are these guys signing the contract to fight me? They know this is going to end poorly. This is a bad business decision by you to agree to fight me.

Why would you choose to fight me? You're not even going to get to the second round. I'm not going to get out of second gear. Do you know what I mean? I'm not even going to train for you. You're out of your mind now. God bless him. I'm looking forward to it. And that was a great answer as well. He said, listen, why are you giving me shit? Why are you plenty about know he didn't allocate the position? Anyway, best of luck to Bo nickel. All right, today's episode is brought to you by betterhelp that are really offering an incredible service. Mental health is something that is spoken about regularly but still has a stigma attached to it. We even saw Sean Strickland just recently opening up about know, talking about how he still struggles. He's rich, he's famous, and he still struggles. Lots of people talk about it. And you might be sitting there thinking that this applies to you, but a lot of people still struggle to take the bull by the horns. Okay, well, betterhelp are going to make it extremely easy and convenient for you. All you got to do is sign up to betterhelp.com and you'll be matched up with a licensed professional therapist in no time at all.

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Jamal Hill has been taken to Twitter Harrington, and he does not buy the hype over Alex Pereira, correct?

No, he, in fact, he said Bruno Silva beat Alex, convinced me otherwise. Also, show me one round of him just straight up outclassing.

Yeah, yeah. And then he had some other tweets as well, I think, as well. He was on bit of a tweeting marathon this morning or last night, whatever it know, somebody mentioned Alex Pereira and, you know, then someone said, well, no, catching somebody with a left hook isn't outclassing them, which is kind of, I understand that, but he set that up. It wasn't like a fluke shot. He didn't just close his eyes and swing. Jamal Hill, Alex Pereira, what do you think? Do you think Jamal is underestimating Alex Pereira? I think there's a potential for that, right? And I think as fighters, we've got to do that. We've got to strip somebody down. You can't look at them. You can't put them on this pedestal as this unbelievable guy. The reality is, though, Pereira, this will be the fifth champion that he's fought against, four that he's beaten, and the fifth that he could potentially be in just eight fights and a champion of two divisions. That's not a coincidence. You don't go out there and beat four champions in seven fights unless you are something special. Yeah, but I mean, look, there's absolutely.

No disagreement here, right? The way that he beat Israel, Adesanya coming back in the fifth round, they're still having that power at the ready 22, 23 minutes into a title fight when nobody had ever seen him leave the third round is absolutely incredible. So, yeah, I'm not taking anything away from it. I don't think Jamal is either. But I think in Jamal's mind, this guy is a huge hitter for 185. He's got good pop at 205. I've fought guys with good pop at 205. This guy doesn't bring a wrestling game I'm afraid of. He doesn't bring a jujitsu game that I'm afraid of, et cetera, et cetera. So for where Jamal is coming from, if it's two guys who are just going to stand and bang, he's never lost that fight in his life.

Yeah, no, it's interesting, and you make some valid points, to be fair. And I think even Yuri Prahaska said Yuri was doing pretty good. I think Yuri said this week, or in an interview recently, he feels he was winning that fight against Jamal until those elbows, you know, that's open for discussion. I think Yuri fundamentally could do with improving some things because he's got that wild style, which makes him effective, but it's a little traditional, martial arty. And I'm not trying to talk shit about Yuri. I'm a big, big fan of that guy. When you look at Jamal Hill, though, and here's a criticism that people say, not me, people say, well, Jamal Hill, you beat an old version of Glover Toshera who was 42 years old. What was he, 42 or 40, something like that?

I'll double check, but I believe it was 42.

Yeah, he was the champion of the world. It's not his fault that he was the champion. So you can't criticize him for beating the champ. Before that, he beat Thiago Santos, knocked him out cold. Before that, Johnny Walker, I mean, Johnny Walker is a big dude. Johnny Walker's in his prime. Johnny Walker hits hard. He's a freak of nature. And that was one of the sickest knockouts. And before that, Jimmy Krutz again. Knockout. So three knockouts, one decision over the champ. What are your thoughts on that fight? Be honest, Tarrington.

I don't know. I've seen Alex Pereira slumped, know, asleep in the cage, getting knocked out. I've never seen that with Jamal Hill. So, I mean, like I said, if it's two guys are going to stand and swing absolute hammers at each other.

Yeah.

Pereira might be more technically sound coming from a kickboxing background, whatever the case may be. But Jamal Hill has a chin and the power to put him out for. I'm just. His chin's never been cracked.

And you raise a good point. Jamal definitely has the power. I think he does have the ability to take his good shots because, as you say, I mean, Israel Adesanya was able to knock him out. Granted, at 185, you can't take a shot as well. There. Is Jamal as polished? Probably not. Is he big, powerful, explosive? He could have been a pro. Basketballer, right? If I'm not mistaken, he had a scholarship playing basketball. That's how he tore his achilles. So he's very, very athletic. And maybe he might not be quite as polished technically, but that doesn't mean you're not as effective. And with four ounce gloves on, you've only got to connect once. And Jamal Hill does have that kind of power. Early prediction from yourself, Pereira, or Jamal Hill? And I'll throw it to you, Brian, as well.

My early prediction, it does not make it out of round two.

How about that?

It's going to be a quick fight. It's going to be a banger.

But listen, I was going to say that I'm kind of leaning to Jamal, right? But as I said, jamal a two weight division champion at glory, beaten four former champs. Sean Strickland, Israel Adesanya, Yuri Prahaska. Who's the other one? Jan. Jan Blachovic. So he's beaten four former. You know, and he was a glory champ. He's been the champion at two weight classes. That's a hell of an accomplishment list in seven fights. Do you still think Jamal Hill is the winner?

It's so tough to pick against that pedigree, right? But at the same, like, I don't know what Jamal Hill's resume is, but he can only beat the guys who've been put in front of him. And the only guy who's put up any kind of a test to him so far in the octagon is Paul Craig, who broke his arm on a submission. Right, Alex, prayer is not breaking out any flying arm bars here.

No, he's definitely not. Neither is Jamal Hill. And they both said they're not going to wrestle. Do you know what I mean? So we'll see what know. But we might get a Nate Diaz special. Brian. Brian, jump back on, brother. You're going to get to choose now. We're not going to do anything political because a lot of people are going batshit crazy in the comments, and I don't want to get political anyway. But in the non MMA section, Brian, one of them is for sure political. We have a venezuelan vixen, I was going to say a venezuelan migrant blown up on TikTok telling people how to enforce squatters rights. We have Gordon Ryan clapping back at Fion Davis about the fight of pay. Between the disparity between male and female, these are both political.

Those are two that we're not going to touch. What about number three?

We got the newer link. Okay, new relink is going. All right, let's talk about that. Brian, give me your thoughts on that. For those people that don't know what Neuralink is, it's a chip. And I am butchering this that Elon Musk has developed. You implant it into somebody's brain, and with power, they have the power to do a lot of stuff just by thinking about it. And please, let's have a look. This video here, I saw it on Twitter earlier. I saw the news as well.

We should be streaming live here. Hello, world. How's it going out there? My name is Bliss, and I'm an engineer at Neuralink.

Not bothered.

I'd like to introduce you to the first ever user of the Neuralink device. And I think you're my only telekinetic friend that I have.

Yeah, I think so.

Not many more of those out there. You want to introduce yourself?

Yeah, my name's Nolan. Skip forward a bit. Right. No offense to these guys. Yeah, there it is. It's a long old video.

What was about airlink that made that possible for you?

Yeah. So, one of the big things, I just got checkmated.

The only way I could play it.

All right, kill the video. Kill the video. That was like. You watch a YouTube video and they do the big introduction at the start. It's like no one cares. Just get to the good stuff. Hi, everyone. Thanks for watching the channel. And if you don't mind subscribing. And today we're going to shut the.

Throw the watermelon off the dam. That's what we're here.

Yeah, the guy's playing chess, okay? So I said to my wife this morning, I said, oh, shit, look at this. And she goes, what is it? She was in the bathroom. I said, a guy's got the neuralink in it. In his head. And she said, what's he doing? I said, he's playing computer games with his mind. And then I said, all right, granted, it's not exactly call of duty. He's moving a mouse cursor with his mind, but even still, that's pretty incredible.

Well, there's videos like paraplegics playing Call of Duty with their faces, like, just using a tongue controller. It's pretty wild. And they're, like, smoking people, too. It's crazy.

But, I mean, this is fine.

This is a great step. But let me know when they start swinging hammers with that. You know what I mean?

What do you mean, swinging hammers?

Get these paraplegics on construction sites get a hammer drill in their hands, whatever. Or in their robot hands.

I don't know.

No, it's unreal, because they say, and I don't understand the link between this one, and maybe you guys do, and you probably don't, because you're not neurologists, you're not neuro scientists, you're not Elon Musk.

I don't even feign interest in that stuff.

This opens the door to them being able to fix, cure blindness, paralysis, people that have never been able to walk, and things like that. I don't understand how the link in there will fix those things.

It's just like electrical signals. So your brain is probably still making the signals. Like, it's like people's phantom pains and shit. Like, your brain is still making the signal to move that thing, just that those muscles don't exist or like, the pathway doesn't exist, so they just repair the pathway.

Yeah, no, for sure. I understand that. But my point is, for example, I have one eye, right?

Oh, yeah.

And the reason that I can't see out of my right eye is because it wasn't the detached retina. It was when I got glaucoma. So the pressure in the eye got really high, which killed the nerve endings at the back of the eyeball. So the nerve endings are dead. They made the robot eye. Yeah, but just because you stick a link in the brain neuralink, how is that then going to.

Well, your brain sees. Right. It's like your brain is what makes the images.

Yes, but the nerves send the images to the brain.

So if they could make a robot, like an electronic link, like a fake eyeball, like a camera, and then link that into the. I'm not a neuroscientist, but I would imagine that if they could link that to your brain, it would be a similar outcome.

You're doing a good job, though, of dissecting the cause. Speaking of eyeballs, I went in the other day because I was getting a new one. I was getting a refresher. I've got a little video. I'll send it in at some point where the way they do it, it's wild. So they're putting all the solution, what they do to mold a new one, and then they have, like, a straw sticking out of it that they pour the solution down right into your bare eyeball. It's kind of cold and stings and stuff, but well done to Elon Musk. Man, he truly is changing the world. Changing the goddamn world. It's unbelievable. Well motivated people with money.

My first thought when I saw this, I just saw the mouse moving and I was like, this is so lame.

Who is going to get a thing.

Put into their head just so they don't have to touch their keyboard? And then I saw he was paralyzed, and I was like, oh, no, this.

Is actually a great thing.

This is my cynical. I can't contain it. But, yeah, if that's who you're using this on to give them a wider range of the world. Yeah, this is awesome.

No, for sure. That's incredible in itself. But you got to think of it like this. So when you see that he's just controlling a cursor, he's playing a rudimentary game of chess on a computer. It's like going back to like the. You used to have pong, remember? You put the cartridges in and you played on your TV, and there were those crappy computer games. Now look at it. Now look what's been achievable in, what, 30 years? 40 years.

40 years.

40 years, yeah. For some reason, I think of the 80s as like 1015 years ago.

20 years. It's always 20 years ago.

The 80s is 20 years ago, 40 years ago. 1984 was 40 years ago. That's wild, man. Wild. Yeah. Did you have one of those? You were too young, you two, weren't you?

But I was born with a Nintendo. Like, my older brother had one in 1986 when they came out, and I born in 87, so I've always had a Nintendo.

What year were you born, Harrington?

I was born in 88.

But, yeah, I mean, Nes all the way.

I mean, there were some older people I knew who had Ataris back in the day, so I did get to play the pong on the regular, like the switch controller.

I remember going around to somebody's house as a kid, and they had a Sega master system. Did you get those in America? And the game that was built in was Alex the kid Sega master.

No, we had a Sega Genesis was our Genesis.

We called that in the UK, a Mega drive, which I think is a way better name, Sega Mega Drive. And that was the 16 bit, but the eight bit was the master system. So what was the Sega eight bits called?

In America, those never got super popular.

We had a super. Nintendo was our 16 bit, if I'm not mistaken.

So I think Sega blew up in Japan, like the master system. And I remember it was called the Master system because there was a western executive trying to pitch it to a japanese guy, and he's like, the master. You know how important a master system is? This is going to be the greatest thing ever. And it got them to sign on.

It's a good name, isn't it? The master system. That is good. That's what I might call Michael Bisping's master system of martial arts. Yeah. I don't know how we've gone from Neuralink to talking about consoles, you know what I mean?

Because they were playing games.

Yeah, playing games, exactly. And I don't know a shit about neurology, so we'll talk about Sega master systems and Nintendo's and Mario. Okay. Yeah. Super Nintendo's. Man. I was obsessed with Nintendo's when I was a kid. Street fighter two. I say all the time, I will WHOOP all of you.

I'm the only person I know to beat Battletoads.

Which one? Toads.

The original battlets.

I don't know. It.

Oh, it's super difficult, even as an adult. I went back when I was like, I don't know, a few years ago, maybe like, ten years ago now, I went back and I just played all the games that I couldn't beat when I was a toddler, and I was like, oh, most of these are easy. Ninja Turtles and Battletodes are the two hardest games that I've ever beaten, and I had to wait, like, 20 years before I could do it.

So we went for a walk on Sunday, me, Rebecca, and Lucas. We've been doing a lot of walking recently. We've been obsessed with steps. And, in fact, did you see McGregor in that interview? He was talking about this. He said, you got to get 10,000 steps a day. Yeah, he was doing some interview with Jake Gyllenhaal and a couple of the other cast of roadhouse.

I think the physicality for me, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't even know how to walk half the time.

Sure, get your steps in. 10,000 steps a day.

Thousand a day.

Thousand a day.

No.

30 marathons a year. Then you've completed. Yeah, that's what they say. 10,000 steps a day. Is 30 marathons a year complete. Here we go. Because Rebecca is obsessed with walking, so every day we go for a long walk. We're lucky we got some trails by our house. But McGregor said on this thing, he said, you got to get you 10,000 steps a day. If you get your 10,000 steps a day, that's equivalent to something like 100 marathons per year. And I thought, what are you smoking, bro? But then I thought about it, 10,000 steps, which isn't that hard to achieve, by the way. We're obsessed with it on the health app on your phone. Right. 10,000 steps is 3 miles. You do that ten times, you've walked 30 miles. So you do that according to 165 times.

According to Google, the average for 10,000 steps is 5 miles.

5 miles. So do this. 5 miles times 365. If you do 10,000 steps, I'll do it right now. Right, hold on. 1825, 1780. I got. Okay, five times three, six. 5118. 1825. Yeah, I might have put three, five, six. Now, let's divide that by 26. 70.1. So if you walk 10,000 steps a day, which doesn't take long, we go out down this trail. It's about an hour. You're running 70 marathons a year. That's pretty impressive.

I mean, they've been saying it forever, right? How many times do I have to hear, get your 10,000 steps? My wife jokingly says it, but it's like, yeah, it is nice.

And if you have a kid.

But isn't it quality over quantity?

Right?

Like, you're not getting your heart rate up if you're walking like an old man, 10,000 steps a day.

No, you're not. And I watched a YouTube video recently because some people are supplementing steps for exercise, and it's not if you live a sedentary lifestyle, no offense. Like you, Brian, you're sitting there at a computer all day. And I do as well. That's why I've been trying to get more steps in, because I work from home. I'll do a YouTube, I'll do a podcast, all that type of stuff. I'm not out on a building site. Do you know what I mean? So I work out in the morning. Other than that, I'm sitting on my backside. So I was very conscious of it. So if you're working out, that's great. And if you want to walk, fantastic. But the walk and getting the steps doesn't replace exercise. You've got to lift weights, you've got to put the body through stress to get the benefits of it. You got to build muscles, you got to build your cardiovascular system, you got to release the endorphins. Walking baby steps won't do that. But never mind that. Show me your steps steps challenge right now. So far today, I am on 7837. You can't see that, but it's true.

I could probably estimate my steps at about 250. Like, I walked downstairs, I made breakfast, I walked to my car, I drove to the store, I drove back, I got back out of my car, and I walked back, and I sat down in the seat.

That's seven steps. Now, granted, to be fair, I did a three and a half mile run this morning, so my steps are a little skewed. Harrington, what are your steps? Unmute. Unmute.

Yeah, I know.

Sorry.

I kept missing the button, baby. Okay, so I'm shocked at how much it was then. I remember I walked out to the car to try to get the stroller. I'm at 37 52 for the day.

How far away is your car? Kind of far. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, in the words of Conor McGregor, get your steps in. If you do 10,000 a day, you're running 70 marathons a year. To be fair, that's seven days a week. All right. This episode is sponsored by prize Picks. And prize Picks is the largest independently owned daily fantasy sports platform in North America. And they are the easiest and the most exciting way to play DFS. Daily fantasy sports. It's just you against the numbers, so it really couldn't be any easier. Will it be more or less than a given time frame period? Points, strikes, takedown, goals, hoops, points, whatever you want to call it, more or less. It is that simple. And you can turn $10 into $250 with just a few taps. It's that easy to play. You can make your picks and submit your entry in less than 60 seconds. Quick withdrawals, easy gameplay, and an enormous selection of plays and stat types are what make prize picks the number one daily fantasy sports app. And by the way, prize picks offers weekly promotions that can lead to big payouts like taco Tuesday every single Tuesday.

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Okay, so I thought this was super interesting, and I have seen it done once before in my life. But Alex Pereira is talking right now about the prospect of turning around if he has a good UFC 300 and fighting at UFC 301. He already has a prospective opponent in mind because people were asking his manager, your next opponent might have a heavy grappling style. Would that affect how you're training? He said, no, I've been doing a ton of grappling training as is right now. The idea would be he'd be fighting Jamal hill and then Magamat akalaya 21 days apart.

Oh, what's going on?

Sorry.

Oh, there you are. Yeah, I did see that, and I saw reports somewhere. Apparently, he's got a clause in the contract. I don't know where that came from. I remember reading it at the time, but I forget about it. I forgot. Who was it?

I believe it was Luke Thomas reported that on his new show, and then Pereira did confirm that.

Okay. Oh, really? So he does have a clause in the contract. If he gets through it unscathed, he will be main eventing four or five weeks later.

Three weeks later. It's 21 days from event to event.

I mean, that's some guy, isn't it? You know what I mean? That's unreal. Never mind. Never mind. Five champions in eight fights. He's headlining pay per views all over the goddamn place. I mean, that's a legendary guy, right? Fair play. Listen, Jamal's amazing. He isn't doing this right. I understand him wanting to do that. It's Brazil. He wants to go back. He wants to headline a pay per view in his home country. That's one of the best feelings as a champion. You know what I mean? When you can take the belt home, defend it in front of your people, it's an incredible feeling. I was lucky enough to do that, and I'll never forget it. But they always say in sports or combat sports, you can't look past your opponent. And I still feel like it's a possibility to do this without necessarily disrespecting or not respecting the threat of a Jamal hill. He's just confident, know, history has shown he can take people out of there, and if he was to do it, then, yeah, fair play to him. I mean, it's legendary stuff. My only question is, who would it be? And you already answered that.

So you're saying it will be Magomed Ankalayev? Because I'm looking at the rankings. I mean, who else would it be? Jamal? He's fighting Prahaska, he's beat. Ankalayev would be the one. Then it's rakic, Yamblachovic, Krillov. Yeah. Magomed Anklev. The only problem is that is a risky one because there couldn't be a bigger difference between Jamal Hill and Magomed Ankalayev. Magomed Ankolayev. I believe if Pereira gets through Jamal, and that's a big if, but if he gets through hill, his biggest threat is by far Magomed Anklev. Everybody in that list. Yuri, kind of a striker first. Who else we got? Rakic, kind of a striker first. Krilov. He's well rounded. Walker, he's a striker. Magomed Anklev is a very serious threat in every department of mixed martial arts.

Are they just going to tack this fight on to the card? If that's the case? Because wouldn't this be unfair to Magamed?

Is he going to get a different.

Opponent if Jamal Hill gets beat up during 300? It just seems like there's weird logistics going on.

That's an interesting question. It's a very good point. Does Ankolaev get another opponent? I don't know. Maybe they've spoken to Magomed about that and just said, look, this is the situation. Bear this in mind, have this date in mind, but it's not guaranteed. If he gets through him, would you want to fight him? And if he says yes, he says yes. If he says no, I'm not willing to do that. But you know what these crazy daggistanis are like, do you know what I mean? They're training 24/7 you know what I mean? They're not out there partying. They don't need to get the alcohol out of the system. They're not laying off the weed. They're like, what time is wrestling? What time is think?

I think it would just be like a little unfair if they were like, okay, magomed, you're either going to fight Alex Pereira or you're going to fight like a completely different fighter with a completely different style.

Yeah, but if Magomed's happy to accept, obviously they've had a discussion with him, you know what, and I think, I think Magomed Ankalai have certainly given that last win over Johnny Walker and how he's taken out pretty much everybody. Is it Paul Craig the only person to beat him?

Yeah, I believe he's still the only person to beat him. There was the only person to beat Jamal Hill.

Paul Craig? Yeah. Look, listen, if he's happy to do it. If he's happy for those circumstances, then fair play Alex Pereira will do it for sure. And I've kind of got a feeling that that was probably what went down. They said, look, listen, magomed, here's what we're thinking. How do you feel about it? Brother said location and he's there.

And I'm sure it's a thing where it's like, I doubt he would be on that card if not for a title opportunity. You know what I mean? So I don't think there's concern where it's like, you actually might have to fight Nikita Krylov on this card.

Sorry.

I don't think they're going to hit him with that. Have him train during Ramadan for the chance at a title.

It's like you're getting.

I'm just looking at this. In the duples, he reiterated his desire to settle the score with Israel Adesanya. He acknowledges that the Strickland fight is there and he's open to it. But he says that he wants to fight someone. The fans want to see him fight more than anything elaborate, so he know he does understand.

Sean Strickland's out there. He's talking about wanting this immediate rematch, but. All right, sorry, we have a guest popping up. We'll get to that.

Oh, get out of here, Harrington. Nobody wants to speak to you. Am I regret the moment I have to see your face, Sean O'Mallet. In fact. No, let me redo that. Ladies and gentlemen, we are joined by the one and only phantom weight champion of the world, Sean. What's going on, brother? How you doing, brother?

Bizzing, how's it going? Not too bad. Just enjoying this beautiful weather before it gets too hot.

How you doing, brother? I'm good, man. I'm good. I see you're sitting in that big throne that you've got there. I saw that on a YouTube video recently. It's quite the throne for a king.

Yeah, I know. They get you on the Internet sometimes. I don't even know what I was looking up, but I seen this and I was like, I have to have it.

You gotta have it. How much does one pay for something like, um. You know what?

I don't even look at this point, Bisbee. I don't even know this point.

It's like, whatever. Give me two.

Yeah, exactly.

It's quite the shot of your balls that we'd have as well if you moved your hands. They are very strategically placed. You know what?

Sorry about that, brother.

You're good listen, Sean, thanks for your time today, buddy. Got to start with this. As you know, I'm boys with Cheeto, but I've got to 100% respect what I saw there. That really was something special. It was a phenomenal performance. Cheeto is a tough bastard and you made him prove how tough he was. It was from start to finish, sublime. Beautiful, technically proficient. I mean, it was perfect. It was one of the best performances I've seen.

I appreciate that.

Busy.

I've known you always been Cheeto's boy, and you've always kept it unbiased. I've always appreciated. So, yeah, yeah, I appreciate the performance.

Overall.

I felt like it was beautiful. Didn't quite get the finish, but it is what it is. It's the next best thing that could have happened without getting a finish is whooping ass for five rounds.

Yeah, look, listen, I mean, we all want to get a finish, but also, you were able to go out there and show the world what you're capable of. As I say, I've said it multiple times, that was some of the best boxing, the best display of balance and accuracy, because a lot of people. I get frustrated sometimes. You see people running in with the punches and being reckless and they fall into the clinch. It's like being control of yourself, being control of your weapons, your balance, your precision, your shot selection, everything. It was something special, man, that the work you've done is really showing. Yeah.

The greasy hair really helped me just stay balanced and really helped me pinpoint my shots.

The greasy hair, man. Why would you do that, Sean?

Just in case. You never know.

No.

Yeah, that was a weird one. I feel like. I mean, even in the pictures or the video you watched, I feel like you can see if someone's hair is greasy. It's pretty visual. My hair was as beautiful as ever, and I thought that was a weird one. I feel bad for the guy. I'm like, just say I got my ass kicked. You'll get more fans. He's losing fans per minute.

You're putting me in a tricky spot here. Yeah, I shouldn't have asked. With this interview, I'm going to get a phone call from Cheetah going, what the? I thought we were friends. It's like, bro, this is what I do. This is how I make a living.

I brought it up. That's on me.

I'm literally joking. I don't care. I'll slap him. Where do we start? You and Cheeto, you've shared the ring for five rounds, and it was the second fight I see you got the poster in the background. Will you guys ever be good? Will you ever bury the hatchet?

I feel like in my position, the one that's the alpha, the king, it's easier for me to say, yeah, you know what? I don't mind the dude, but for him, I don't know if he says it's not personally says I'm just another guy, but he probably has nightmares of me at night. He probably wakes up and sweat thinking about me punching him. So I don't know. That's on him. I'm not running low on friends, so I don't really need another buddy. But you never know. We'll see how it plays out.

Not running low on friends, I think, is an understatement. I mean, you're the champion of the world. You're everyone's favorite fighter these days. You're topping the bill in know, you're flying around the world in private jets. I mean, life is pretty good now, Sean, right?

Yeah, I mean, life has been good for a long, you know, before I was champ, I was living like the know. I think it's just a know. I was able to do that financially, too, which I'm in a unique position. I feel like I've been making championship money for the last few years, but now that I'm actually making the pay per view money.

Yeah, and you deserve it, man. You really do talk to me about this, though, like young Sean. I mean, obviously you always had belief in yourself, and a popular term that people use these days is I manifested it. But you always believe in yourself and as fighters, you have to. But have you even surprised yourself at how successful you've been?

I wouldn't say I surprised myself in that sense, how successful I've been. I think more so. It's like, I don't even know if surprising is the right word. It's more like just mind blowing how just my career's played out. Even still watching back the Aljo fight, going in there with an injury, Aljo is the hardest guy in the division for me at the time. And to go out there and put his lights out in two was just crazy. And then the Cheeto rematch, it's like that was the biggest fight in the division because of how the first fight played out. So this is how my career has played out. It's just crazy. But I definitely wouldn't say I'm surprised when I'm that young buck looking into the future. I'm not even really close to where I'm going to be. And I've said it since before I even got to the issue. I'm going to be bigger than Connor. People think that's a stab at Conor from me, but I'm probably the biggest Conor fan. It's just a good goal metric of where I want to be and that's bigger than Connor. And I'm not there yet.

I'm on my way, but I'm really not even that close yet. When you talk about how many pay per views he's done, top ten. We've like seven out of the top ten. I'm not even close there. I'm closer than I was a year ago, two years ago, fucking last week, but I'm not really there yet. So I just use that bigger than Connor as a crazy metric of where.

I want to be. How old are you now, Sean?

29.

29. I mean, you got bags and bags and bags of time to go. We got to talk about what's next, though. Marab de Valesville. I'm sure you see Marab as some little annoyance just nipping at your heels and talking shit and stealing your jacket and all this type of stuff. I did like your tweet, Marabs next. 2025. And everyone was like, this is great. I'm like, guys, is nobody seeing that? He said 2025 and we're in March.

Yeah. Marab is easy to get angry. He's got short man syndrome, first of all. He's just ugly as could be. So he's like, that's got to play a role in life that would, you know, just pecking at the little.

Yeah. So who is it next, though? Is it going to be marab? Is it andamaga Madoff? Is it?

Yeah, it's definitely leaning. Yeah, definitely leaning towards.

Know, that's a.

That'S a potential big fight someday. If I go out there, win a few, you know, keeps doing what he's doing and wins a few, know that could be a massive fight end of next year. I would say if we both go out there and do what we need to do, that could be a massive fight someday. But I think it's leaning towards Morab next, which, know, a lot of people say, I'm ducking him and I don't want that fight, but I don't mind that think. I don't look at that fight and go, oh, God. I look at the Ilya fight and think, okay, fuck, this is kind of scary. Marab's scary in his own know. He's got five rounds cardio. It's guaranteed he's going to push the pace. Guaranteed he's going to shoot. He's guaranteed he's going to bring it. But I knocked those kind of people out. I didn't knock Cheeto out. But it's not like I got tired and I could have kept going. I could have Cheeto up for another five rounds. But it wasn't the rest, obviously. It's different cardio kickboxing.

Your phone's on the move. You got a ghost, bro?

No, my little puppy hit the table, but yeah.

Sheepadoodle.

Yeah, sheepdog poodle.

Okay, I have a. What is it? A Yorkie poo. A Yorkie poo?

Yorkie poo. One of those little.

Yeah, a little shit. Yeah, he's all right. What's the multi poo called? Or the sheepy poo? Whatever the hell it is. What's it called?

What's her name?

Yeah. Mary Jane. Of course it is. My guy's Harry. Yeah.

I got Cush and Mary Jane. They're my little pups.

Nice.

But yeah, I'm going to beat his ass.

All right. Okay. And I look forward to it. I look forward to it when the day comes. Give me your thoughts on elite support. Do you see some kind of. Some parallels between what you're doing right now? Because you've just become the champion. You're a huge star supporter. On the flip side, at 45, and I mean, from a respect angle, I mean, he's making huge waves. He's ridiculously popular out there in Spain. I think I just saw that him and his wife or him and his girlfriend. I'm not sure which she is. They're like the face of dolce and Gabbana. Some new perfume or something.

Really?

Yeah. When are we going to see Sean O'Malley with some, I don't know, your own fragrance?

Yeah, I got my own fragrance right now. It's got done gaming for 4 hours. I got that call of duty stent.

There you go.

But, yeah, I think I like what ialy is doing for me in my know, a superstar, you want another star? You want another guy? You want a Connor, you need a floyd to have that Connor. Matt, you need a connor. And a khabib, you need the two stars. I'm always looking for a star. Like I'm looking for that next guy. Marab definitely ain't a superstar, but I'll go WHOOP his ass and I'll make myself become more of a star. Eli has to go out there, beat whoever's next, whether it's Max or who knows. He goes out and does his thing.

I'm going to continue to do my.

Thing and I look forward to a super fight. That's what I've been in this sport for since the beginning, because I wanted to be in the biggest fights on the biggest stages. So I like when I see someone like Elia become a superstar.

Yeah. No, absolutely. Talk to me about Corey Sandhagen. What's your feelings on this guy?

Very dangerous, very skilled. I'm a fan of his work, I'm a fan of his style. Very dangerous guy. And he'll probably fight. I'm hearing him versus Umar is probably what's going to be next. So I would imagine I go out there, beat Marab and I'll probably fight the winner. One of those two.

That's what I would.

If I had a guess and look into the future, that could be it.

Yeah. Does that kind of. I don't know, because I think you were talking about this recently, Umar namagamedov having the last name namagamedov, right?

Yeah.

That would be a massive, massive fight, which of course you take a cut in being the know. Would it be somewhat bittersweet if Sandega was to beat him and take that opportunity.

Know, if he goes out there and beats him in spectacular fashion, which he very well could, hopefully that he creates a star out of beat. But I do think Umar's a bigger fight, which is weird just because I've never sat down and actually watched Umar fight. I've watched Corey fight a bunch, but Umar Namagamedov, could be. They could just sell that fight. Irish versus Russia, Habib Connor, two at 35.

It would be huge.

And like I said, that's what I'm here for. But I wouldn't be surprised if Corey beat tomorrow.

Yeah, you never know. You never know. Life since the fight. What is it, almost two weeks? When was it? About two weeks ago, right? How's it been, man? What have you been doing? What have you been up to?

Honestly, this is the most back to just normal life. The fastest it's ever been. I haven't really went out and partied. I haven't celebrated with the boys, I haven't drank, I haven't stayed out all night, I haven't done anything. I've just been, honestly just been playing a ton of call of duty and chilling. Just been chilling. It's absolutely perfect. Outside in Arizona right now. I have a farm out here, so I got a little trampoline for elena, a swing by it. I take her outside every morning and it's perfect out. So been able to hang out with Elena. A to it's so nice to be able to. Went out to eat last night, ordered half the menu just because I can. So I've been eating good, I've been sleeping good, which is nice, been gaming, been chilling, and mentally just kind of ready to get back to work. And I'm this close to greatness. I'm right there where I could be talked about forever, which I've never really cared about because I've always looked at it like, when I'm dead, I'm dead. Who gives a people talk about me, but now that I'm this close to it, I'm like, that's pretty cool.

You try to find motivation wherever you can find it. When you haven't made it yet, it's easy to find motivation because you have to pay your bills, you have to become successful. You have to not worry about working. I don't have to ever work or fight or do anything ever again. So my motivation now is greatness is chasing legendary status legacy, leaving a legacy.

Leaving your family name behind. I mean, it's beautiful. It really is. I think people will be surprised, Sean, to hear that given the stardom, the level that you've reached, and then you come back and you're just playing Call of duty and hanging out with your daughter. I mean, that's beautiful. I love that. And that's what keeps you grounded and humble and all the rest of it. Yeah, you talk shit and you're confident, but you got to be as a fighter. But outside side of that, you're playing Call of duty and hanging out with your daughter. I mean, that's beautiful.

You know what I just find? Every fight camp I go through every twelve weeks, dialed in, focused, eating good, sleeping good, no distractions. You just have this certain level of peace you find. And then I realize I'm like, okay, life's more enjoyable in that kind of mindset and that peace that I have in camp. So I'm trying to replicate that outside of camp with the no distractions and just going out to the club. It's just kind of, you go, one thing leads to another, and then.

I'm.

Trying to just keep my head straight and focus and do what I need to do. And I can celebrate and enjoy if I want to go out and do all that stuff after I'm done fighting.

Yeah, and it's overrated anyway. And you're just going to be surrounded by a bunch of hanger honors. They're not your real friends. They're just trying to hang on. Because you're the champ and it makes them look cool. Get an Instagram picture. It's all bullshit. It's all fake. None of it really even matters. You're not even, like, a drinker or a party animal anyway, right?

I went through my stages. I've been through my stages. I've been to the point where I'm.

Just like, fuck going.

It's Friday night. I want to go out with the boys. I want to go to the club. I've been through my phases that I don't even know right now in this mindset, this Sean O'Malley, I don't really care to do that very often. UFC 300 is coming up, and I do host after party at Zook in Vegas Resorts world. So that'll be my first time celebrating the title defense with the fellas. So I will go out for that. But in this mindset, I mean, I don't really have the urge to go and party and do that. So I feel good right now, but I also know myself. I go through phases. I go through stages. And sometimes I'm hoping I don't have to go through another one of those stages, but if I. Yeah, but going.

Out and partying, for a lot of people, that's escapism. It's because they're working Monday to Friday in the bullshit nine to five job. You've cracked it. You're doing incredible things. Your life right now, I'm assuming, is a bed of roses, comparable to a lot of other people's lives. So you don't need that escapism because your day to day life is fantastic. Talking about the after party at UFC 300, am I invited or what? Sean, I'm going to be there. I'll be offended if I don't get one.

I would love to take a shot of tequila, drink some happy dad. That would be incredible. I'm going to actually go to 300 and then, yeah, right after heading over to zook.

Better be there. Nice. No, I will be avoiding that like the plague. I don't go to clubs these days. Fuck that shit, man. I can't stand it. Honestly. It drives me mad. You got to shout, you got to scream. You're like, what did you give a fuck about? Looking cool with the bottles and any of that stuff, paying over the top prices, like, off. Could not care less. Sean, I'll let you go in just a minute. When this is all said and done, when you wrap up this legendary career, what does that look like? How many defenses cross over to the boxing world? I mean, Ryan Garcia, what the is going on over there, man?

Yeah, I mean, ideally, all said, done, end it like Khabib, undefeated. As everyone has finally came to agree that I am undefeated, it's official. It's on my suredog. I am officially 18 and 19, and I forget, but that's nice. So ideally, end it undefeated.

That would be great.

I definitely look forward to defending the title multiple times at 35. Whether I go up to 45 someday or not, it's not really necessarily in my plans. I don't need to. I can make 35 relatively easily. I mean, I make it, and I wouldn't mind going up and doing champ, champ. That's definitely something I would like to do, but I'm not set on that. It is what it is. Woodward's going to kind of go with the flow, but I do think that Ilya fight will happen in the next year. So I think at the end of next year, probably, if I had to guess that Ilya fight happens, but boxing, I would love a mega fight. I would love a super fight. Ryan Garcia is not an option at this point. The dude is absolutely brain dead. I'll be surprised if he's around in the next few know. He's not doing good. He's not where he needs to be. He's probably not surrounded by the people he needs to be surrounded by. So boxing wise, Floyd's always an, you know, still running around. He's getting older. The older he gets, the less likely he has of taking, right?

You know, that's always kind of an option. And it sounds crazy, but Floyd does that. He does those crazy fights. If I'm that big of a superstar in two, three years, that fight very well could happen. And so that's an option. I mean, the other boxers are possible options, but right now, I'm zero desire to box. I'm totally focused on just defending the title.

But an exhibition match, you could probably do that, though.

Anyway, be incredible.

I would love talking about. Contractually, I'm not sure. I don't know. But an exhibition match, I don't know if it's not professional. Anyway, last question before I let you go, and thanks again for your time. I was actually trying to convince my wife, because I've got to come to Phoenix, a little bit of business. Kids are off school next week. So I said, well, why don't rebecca, that's my wife, and Lucas, why don't we go to Phoenix, make a little trip of it? I said, I've been there before. There's nice ranches you can go out on horseback and all the rest of it. She's still got some convincing to do. She doesn't want to spend any extra time with me. But if I did manage to convince her, where would you recommend we go if we come to Phoenix for a couple of days? What is on the itinerary?

Phoenix for a couple of. Definitely, you know, great places to eat. You're in California so I mean, there's great places to eat there. So I don't know if there's any better places to eat here. Fuck, I don't even know what they're.

Like ranches and outside stuff to do. We want to get out in nature and see cacti. Is it like good ranches and stuff? Is that not you? Is that not your world?

I just am not very familiar with that stuff because I literally don't. I just train game, chill. But if you guys come out towards Arizona and you got a couple hours, I'd love to take you on my golf cart, you show you a bunch of the properties around out my house.

I'd love to.

Yeah, that'd be fun. It's beautiful out here. So yeah, if you definitely come, I would love to. Love to show you around the old neighborhood.

Yeah. Until the day comes, you're like, oh my God, fucking bisping is here. Showed up. It was a half ass invitation on the podcast.

Full invitation, 100% invitation. Let me know.

You're a good man. Still team Sanibel?

100% still team Sanibel. I'm actually show you real quick. I'm building a full size. Let me turn this camera around here, see if I know how to. Well, I guess we'll just do it like this. Put a full size octagon right here. I kind of laid out where the octagon is going to be so I can get an idea. Put a full size octagon in here. Weightlifting shit. So I got a nice 4000 square foot warehouse I just built and it's.

Going to be epic. Is that on your property, Sean? The mic is gone.

There we go. Sorry about that.

Yeah, you're good. So the warehouse that you're in there, is that on your property?

Yeah, this is on my property. I have a couple of acres. There's two and a half acres. I just went for sale right behind my house.

So I'm about to just pull the.

Trigger and build a crazy barn dominium house brand, kind of like a dream home. Something just crazy because I need it. I don't need it, but I'm making all this money. I'm like, fuck, I got to spend it. So I'm about to build something crazy on my property, and life's good.

Living the dream, man. Living the dream. Congratulations and everything. Thank you again for your time. I look forward to the sugar show continuing. All the best, brother. Boom.

Thank you, biz bing.

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Sean is the man. I don't know. It's so hard to not like the guy. He just beat up somebody who I consider a friend in Cheeto, and he's fun and dynamic and charismatic. You can't hate him. He's a great.

You know, I had to be very careful because I've got a lot of respect and admiration for Cheeto as a person, as a fighter, of course. But you can't deny that Omali was fantastic, and I'm sure Cheeto will understand 100%. It is what it is. It's a little tricky because they are talking a lot of shit, and Sean's being a bit. Do you see that interview that he did with the punch bag on the same couch that he had right there? It's like, you know what I mean? But, hey, that's the way it goes. Old's fair in love and war. They're both talking a bit of shit, but congratulations. I mean, look at this guy. He's got a farm, he's got a ranch, he's got a warehouse. I mean, he's got so much money, doesn't know what to do with it, and people talk shit. You know what I mean? Fair play to Sean O'Malley. Very, very well deserved. So, brings us to questions, ladies and gentlemen, please. When you send in the questions, you don't have to ask about mixed martial arts. The questions can be about life itself. There is many, many different genres of things going on in life.

Yes, Brian, they also don't need to tell me that.

The question is for you and Anthony. I get it.

Yeah. But listen, guys, love advice, career advice. What else could it be, Harrington?

I don't know. What do people care about other than.

Love and dog advice? Yeah. How to make money. How to become an entrepreneur. How to start a podcast.

Hit us up for race tips at the seven at the aqueduct.

How to finish with your girlfriend because she's driving you nuts. Relationship advice. You know what I mean?

Breakup advice segment from you guys. Please.

I could help with that.

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All right, first question we have here today is actually slightly about MMA. It's something that I've always wondered. And this is Seth Bolton.

Sup Bym? This is Seth coming at you from beautiful Charleston, South Carolina. Big fan of the show. I have a question for Michael and Anthony. Since y'all have personally been around and worked with Chael sunning, I wanted your opinion. Do you think he said spider names wrong on purpose? As, like, let me get some tweets, let me get some extra attention, people calling me out, or do you think he really just them up? Like, Sergey Pavlovich being Sergey Pavlich is probably one of my favorite. I mean, there's a lot of good ones, but, yeah, I just wanted your opinion on that. Like I said, love the show. Listen to every episode I listen to.

You know, when I'm waiting on you.

Guys to put out an episode. That's why I got this question. But, yeah, keep it up. Love it, guys.

Well, thank y'all. Seth from South Carolina. And, you know, when it comes to Chael, son, I really don't know because I haven't seen or experienced him saying these names wrong. But Sergey Pavlich, that's what he says. I've got to think that he's doing that one on purpose, probably because he's the american gangster. And Sergey. Sergey Pavlich is russian. And maybe there's a little bit of cold war trauma going on there from Chael Sonnen. Is there any other examples? Have you heard him doing such a phenomenon? I wish, but I'm just sitting here.

Thinking, like, chael is literally, he's a student of language more than most human beings on the planet. Right? Like, he's the one who pointed out that Connor's the one who made it years of age. Know, Robbie Lawler was the one who said, run it back now everybody does. He's always clicked in and listened to these things. So I don't think, oh, I love this.

Let's go and talk to you guys about Islam. Makolchev wahal Mohammed Anne Hazmat, Chamaya. Rouge versus Ferguson. Procray of thinks provider. You're not. If somebody needs to get a hold of Pravaki here and tell, who the hell is Pravaki? Who's that even meant to be guessing? Prahaska. Pravaki. Oh, God, that's brilliant. I don't know. Maybe he is doing it just to encourage a bit of back and forth and a bit of comment engagement.

Perhaps I found a much longer one.

Oh, go on. Just press play for a minute. I got to see it. We might get demonetized, but it's going to be worth it. It's a great call out. And Darush has finally been recognized with.

The top ten ranking Yuri bro. Kayevs of the world.

So Paulo Acosta sent something out on Twitter, then. Islam Makhalchev. Makhalchev. What that does, when you look at the other side of the coin is it puts Usman in a little bit of a tough spot. And I do feel this is an ongoing theme of Ousman's career. When I met Kelvin Gatslam. We've talked about this with gotta be. That's gotta be one. We never talked about this, but of course, we shouldn't be directing you to our competition. In this space, of course, is the good guy bad guy podcast. Please. What the hell, guys? Right? We got to win this war. They got the full backing of the UFC. They got the full backing of the ESPN MMA channel. They get shout outs on every single fight night, but we don't go there. I don't know what you're going to say. What are you going to say?

I was going to say, dude, next time you're on commentary and they hit the plug for it, I would love.

For you to be like, believe you.

Me, guys, it's a great show.

Yeah, no, I've thought about that a few times. Michael. It's not a UFC or a UFC ESPN product, okay? You can't plug your own shows. Okay?

I'm not saying a plug.

I'm just saying an endorsement of their show that begins with. I mean, believe you me, guys, it's great.

No, I know. Well, they're not stupid, are they? But it is an expression. We didn't talk about this because Chael was talking about how he was confronted in a car park by Francis Nganu. You must have seen this clip. He was talking about how him and Francis Nganu were going to throw down, they were going to have a fight, and he came up, he was in his face, and they were getting very close to fighting. But Chell was with his son. And Chell just said, hey, I'm with my son. Don't do it here. Not like this. And Francis just went and then walked away. And he was like, I really respected him for that. He didn't disrespect my son. And I'm like, there's probably a little bit of you that was very relieved if this is a real situation, if this is a real situation. But I don't think it would that.

I think it's very normal for the losing fighter in a million dollar championship fight to be waiting in the parking lot for a.

Chow, comes out with some mad stuff. I'll tell you what, though, we never spoke about this. Talking of Francis Nganu, he did come out recently. Did you see this? Did you see the excuse?

I saw that he said he wasn't himself and that he was very out of sorts. I did not see the actual.

I've got to be careful because I don't want to be getting confronted by Francis Lingardo in a car park.

Certainly not.

No way. No way. Listen, I'm a quote unquote tough guy. I won't back down to no man. You know what I mean? I'm Chris Wideman's walkout song, personified. I will not back down, but Francis Nganu loses his shit. I'm taking my two fake knees and putting them to the test. I am legging it. I'll have a good go. No, he said that he was tricked. In Saudi Arabia, they picked him up. They told him the call time was 1030, and it was about 02:30 a.m. Local time. And Anthony Joshua didn't show up till hours later. So because of that, he was very sleepy and he was tired. They tricked him. And it's an old trick that they do sometimes. Promoters, if they want one guy to lose, they pick them up early so they get tired. Now, granted, being backstage can be mentally exhausting. This is why I got to be careful. I've got to whisper it. I'm pretty sure the thing that made you tired or the thing that put you to sleep was the thunderous right hand of Anthony Joshua and not showing up an hour early. You know what I mean? Don't say that, Francis.

It's not a good look. Do you know what I mean? Oh, dear. Did you not see that? I did not.

I swear to God.

Just google it, for crying out loud. I'm not making it up. For the love of God.

I believe you, and I'll be all right. Here is a weird thing. Here's an actual weird thing. I thought watching that fight the first, when he went to fight Tyson Fury, he was in the back with, like 25, 30 members of his team. They were all singing african songs and beating a drum and everybody getting on the same page, getting hyped up. He knew this was the biggest fight of his life. I didn't see any of that coming.

Out of this camp. He said, we received a schedule, and for some reason in there, I'm there at the arena at least 1 hour before Joshua. They do this kind of trick to make you tired. I didn't realize how important it was.

I can't defend him anymore.

Yeah, no, he's done incredible things.

How early do you show up to UFC event? Fighters don't show up, like 15 minutes before their fight, do they?

No way. Shit.

That has to get done.

Yeah, it's hours before. It's hours. And it can be very, I mean, if you're the main event, which a lot of my fights were, I think there was only one or two fights in my UFC career where I was at the main or the co main event, and it does come. It is mentally know, and now, granted, you get there a little bit later, but you've got to be there 3 hours before the event. You've got to get there. You get seen by the doctor, you seen by the commission again, you got to do a bit of paperwork. What else you got to warm up. You got to get drug tested. You know what I mean? The drug testing can take a while as well. Do they go in blood sometimes? Well, no, they don't pull blood. They don't pull blood right before, but, yeah, you walk in, they do the arrival shot. They get you walking in. Then you got to go, there's a lot of stuff to do, and they want to make sure you're there in plenty of time. They want to make sure that you're not stuck in traffic on a Saturday night at the other side of town and alive on pay per view.

It's like, sorry if a. A little inconvenient. We're going to get you there a bit earlier. Now you can chill. And the best thing to do that a lot of fighters do, even back in the early days, you get there with a teammate. A teammate. I'm talking about on a regional show. Your teammate that you travel down to the event with might be the first prelim of the night, and you might be the main event, and you still got together in the car, you know what I mean? You just take a nap. You lie down. The experienced guys close their eyes, take a little nap, and chill. The inexperienced are running around like this, like a madman, you know what I mean? And talking to everybody, yapping to everybody, going out. This was me going out, talking to everyone, lapping up the limelight at the moment and taking pictures, and they're like, what are you doing? Get back to your dressing room and relax. You're using up a lot of energy. I'm like, this is my moment. I'm loving it. Anyway, thank you for the question. Yeah, Tail, he's going to be butchering them on purpose, right?

Next question we have here is from Kevin Morales.

Good morning BYM crew. This is Kevin Morales coming to you guys from Greenville, Tennessee. My question today is for Anthony and Michael. I'm curious, I know your wife's are a huge role in your life, as mine is. I'm curious, if the roles were switched and your wife was the professional athlete, do you think you could have supported her and done all the duties that she has done for you? I know why there's no way I could do all the things my wife does. She's amazing and she's literally watched me turn from a boy to a man and me turning to a father. I wish I could say I could do her role, but I can't.

It's just a dream.

But I'm curious to know what you guys think. Do you think if the roles were swapped, your wife's would have been as successful and do you think you could have been the all the time stay at home dad? Anthony, good luck on your upcoming fight.

I love the show.

Listen to you guys all the time. Y'all have a good day and keep.

Up with those Gainsville, Tennessee, what was his name? Sorry, Johnny, Jimmy, Paulie, this is me, Kevin. Greenville. Kevin. Kevin. Kevin's a big boy. Kevin is certainly making those gains. He's taking those protein shakes and maybe at least a little bit of testosterone on a daily, you know what I mean?

You talking about old Kevin Cena over there? This guy is like, he's wearing the wrestling shirt. I'm pretty sure he's trying for a WWE tryout.

Has to be. That dude's too jack to just be.

A regular ass guy man over there. Hey, fair play. Good question. Good question. Thank you very much. I don't think I could have done, and I don't think Anthony could have done either. Now, granted, we live in a time in a world where men and women, we can do a lot of similar things. Women can fight in the UFC, and they're very good and they're very entertaining. I just don't think. And it's not because I'm a misogynistic piece of shit. I just don't think I could have fulfilled those roles. You know what I mean? I think I am a man of traditional values and Rebecca is a woman of traditional values, and I just don't think the two would have worked the other way around. And I'm not saying I wouldn't have supported her. I'd support her in anything that she does all the time. Still to this day, I'm always encouraging her to do new things and to try new things and hobies and do whatever makes her happy. But in terms of doing the laundry, cooking the food, being the stay at home dad while she was off doing super exciting shit, I just don't think I could have done that.

I just really don't. And as I say, it's not from a childish perspective. It's just that it wouldn't be that I was angry or mad or whatever. It's just not in my DNA to be that person. I'm the guy that goes out there and does stuff. And Rebecca has always been super supportive, and I think that's why we gelled and why we're still together after 24 years. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think traditional roles need to be still very much respected. And Rebecca loves this as well. She always says, know, in this modern world that we live in, it's almost frowned upon by some women, some strong female bosses. You know what I mean? It's almost frowned upon to want to be a stay at home mom, to want to be a homemaker, you know what I mean? But that's one of the most important jobs that you can do. She has created an incredible home. She's been the best mother that any person could ever dream of being. She's raised three fantastically emotionally stable children. She's cooked them incredible meals. She's given them incredible love and attention and all the rest of it.

And on the flip side, I was off out and about, getting this shit kicked out of me, losing eyeballs, breaking backs, losing knees and brain cells along the way, and trying to provide a financial income. So we have financial stability, and those roles are very much appreciated on both sides. So to answer the question, I don't know if I could have done that. But as I say, it's not because of some weird, misogynistic, I'm a man, and my wife ain't going to go out and do that. If she wanted to go and do that, I would 100% respect and appreciate that, but she's never wanted to, and I've never wanted the flip side either.

Yeah, I couldn't imagine the reverse being true. Right. Knowing Rebecca, knowing how much she prides herself on her home and taking care of things, ceding control of that to someone else and being like, you're protecting and cleaning up and maintaining this awesome stuff that we have, I just couldn't see her. That sounds like a nightmare for her to see control of.

Yeah, I think she might be here. I don't know. We've got a baby crying in the background, which is very off putting, by the way. Okay? Stick a dummy or a pacifier in that baby's mouth. Okay? There's a bloody award winning podcast, and we've never won an award, but we could do one day, okay?

We win awards every year.

Fantastic. She's left for an appointment, sadly. How dare she? Leaving the baby. No, we don't have a baby, Hamilton. There's one in the house, but it's not ours, okay? How dare she not be here to support this podcast and get abused for two minutes and then me pull the bloody thing off her. Geez Louise. She's off out and about, just gallivanting around town while you're staying at home, protecting the house. Jeez. Protecting the house. Sweating my head off because the air conditioning is not on and it must be about 79 degrees outside. Brian, do we have one more question or not?

So we have a question that's about MMA, or we have a question that could also lead to more misogyny.

Well, there was zero misogynistic remarks from what I said.

I mean, could lead to misogyny.

Well, I will do that. We've got a bit of a family crisis going on at our end right now, so I'm a little distracted, but go ahead. Okay.

We're going to go with the lady one either way.

Misogyny isn't cool, okay? No, of course not. There's nothing wrong with traditional relationships and arrangements in life, and I think that should be celebrated more.

What's up BYM crew believers? So, quick question. When you and your family or you and your partner are driving, who drives? The man or the woman?

Her car. Your car?

It don't matter. I'm always driving.

My old lady hates it.

But them is my rules. And I remember even growing up.

Dating.

Girls that had cars when I didn't. If I had my license, I was driving. I think it says a lot about type of a man, in my opinion, who you are. So maybe it's a question to the believers. Get behind the wheel, be a man.

And don't let your lady pump gas.

That's just rude. That's a bad look, but yeah. That being said, I love the show, guys.

Keep doing what you're doing.

And until next time, babe.

That's good.

We're filled up. Yeah, exactly. That's funny. Thank you for the question. It's actually a really interesting question, actually, because I always drive. I always drive. Unless we go to a restaurant and I have, like, two drinks, and I'm like, you got to drive, babe. Simple as that. I think. Brian, can you look up? Can you look and see if there's a stat related to this? It might be hard to find, but on average, who does the driving? I would imagine that in most relationships, the men do the driving and we go in my car. I know yours is going to be different, Harrington, but I don't think you're the average man. It's a joke. It's a joke. Rebecca has a Tesla. I have a nice Audi s seven. So we take the Audi s seven. I like the roar of the engine. I like it. It's better. It just feels more manly. I don't like the Tesla. It's a pain in the ass to drive. It pisses me off. I just don't like it. Nothing against Tesla. Elon Musk, newer link, any of that shit. Nothing about EVs, none of that. I just prefer the fucking roar of the Audi s seven and the way that it makes me feel as a man and makes my dick grow.

Okay, I'm driving it now. Go on, Brian. What's the start?

So men drive about 30% more on average, according to national statistics. Whoever the fuck took that. But what's funny you said about Teslas is I've seen a video of people who drive Teslas and then drive like a regular car, and they crash them because they don't know to hit the.

Yeah, yeah. For anyone that's never driven a Tesla, you don't have a brake. You push the accelerator and then you let go of the accelerator for the car to stop. If there's no acceleration, it just grinds to a halt. You know what I'm saying? And it sounds kind of complicated, but Rebecca was all kind of, like, flustered about it. What do I do? And you learn it pretty quickly, you know what I mean? But now she does say, if I ever went back to a regular car, I think I'd crash because I just let my foot off the accelerator and don't push a brake. So there you go. Anyway, that's the show, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks to Sean O'Malley. Big thanks to Bo nickel. Big thanks to at DM, Harrington and at B. McKay is right. And that's a CK, guys. Enjoy the weekend. Rosenama Yunus, the former champ, taking on Amanda Hebas this weekend. Good little fight card as well. So stay tuned for that one. We've be back on Monday with Anthony Smith, so see you there.