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Hey, weirdos. I'm Ash, and my microphone is traveling away from me.

And I'm Elaina, and my My microphone is staying right in front of me.

My microphone... Oh, and this is morbid. My microphone loves to just drift off away from me. It's like, it does. It's like, Don't speak.

She says, No. She says, I know just what you're thinking. It's true. She does. You know what I mean? Um, Ash sings now. She's a singer.

Did it sound like that? Did it sound like I was a real professional? It did. It's gorgeous. Wow. I have a sore throat, so that's interesting.

Oh, no, it's still sore.

It's a little scratchy, yeah.

Please stay away from me. Well, I'm leaving the country soon. No, don't get sick for your vacation.

I would be so fucking pissed. Let me tell you. You dare do that. No, I think I'm going to be fine. I'm going to take some... This is not professional advice, but I am going to take some Zycam. It always gets me. Some Zinc. Or Zocam? Zycam?

Zycam. I think you're right. It's the one that has Zinc in it.

Zinc.

Yeah. Again, not professional medical advice.

No, never. It's like I said the other night. I'm just a podcast girl.

I'm just a podcast girl, okay?

When I was making that Sleepy Girl mocktail, you had magnesium to it, but obviously, you should talk to your doctor. So I was like, I'm not telling you to do this. I'm just a podcast girl.

Yeah, that's all I know.

I'm not a doctor.

And I barely know that. So really? Honestly.

But yeah, it's It's been a wild day today.

We had a meeting with a very cool person today. Yeah, we did.

I thought you were about to just go for it. I was like, wow.

I'm just edging everyone. Go watch the rewatcher. You'll get that joke.

I I thought we were there. I was like, Hey, you might want to explain that.

If you watch the rewatcher, it's a running joke. Okay, I just pulled out of my butt. But yeah, it was a cool meeting, and hopefully it will lead to something cool that you guys will know about, and we'll let you know when that happens. That's the goal. Until then, that was annoying of me to do, but I was excited about it.

I'm excited about it, too. Anyway.

But you know what? I think I'm really just stalling the beginning because this case is a very sad case. Very, very, very sad. We are on part two of the Bayou Strangler, Ronald Dominique.

A sad case, but definitely one worth telling. I think you're doing a really great job so far.

Oh, thank you very much. I hope so. You're welcome. Yeah, this is just one of those cases. We're in part two now, so I believe at this point we're at close to 10 murders. Wild. He's pretty prolific and just awful. Again, we're going to see more and more the way that this was portrayed in the media was pretty shameful.

A bunch of bullshit.

Pretty shameful. In the end, the justice gets served legally, but it's really unfortunate that the entire time it wasn't.

It was just a fucking Yes.

It's just really upsetting. But let's continue. Now we are on to 2002 at this point. Wow. It's pretty rare, we've talked about this before, for a serial killer to de-escalate. Much harder for them to de-escalate or to stop killing for long periods of time. But it does happen. Remember old Shitflower Dennis Rater, BTK, over in Kansas there? He killed 10 people over a 15-year period, and then he just settled into life as whatever the hell he was and ended his reign of terror for a long time, to be honest. So it's like that happens. Also, Gary Ridgeway, the Green River killer. We haven't covered him yet. I know a lot of people want us to. Trust me, it's coming.

That's an Elaina case for sure.

Yeah, and it's coming up. So stay tuned for that. But he also dramatically slowed his activities after marrying his third wife in 1988. So it does happen.

Oh, yeah. I've read a little bit about that case, and you're right. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, Can't confirm.

He was like, Yes, you are correct. It's unclear what caused Ronald Dominique to stop killing between 2000 and 2002, but he did. At the time, he'd been working two jobs and had become involved with the Lions Club and other community activities. Maybe he found some degree of social acceptance that he was looking for, didn't quite feel the same urges he felt. Who knows? Maybe it was just like his mind was elsewhere.

Or maybe he just didn't get caught for those specific That's a very plausible thing, too.

It's like, who knows? But from what we know, there's nothing between those two years connected to him. Interesting. Whatever the case may have been, though, Dominique's hiatus came to an end on October fifth, 2002, when he met 20-year-old Kenneth Randolph, a neighbor in Homa. Remember, he had moved to Homa, who fit the killer's victim type pretty perfectly. On October sixth, Kenneth Randolph's body was discovered face down in a remote cane field in rural Lafouche Parish. I've looked all these up, so I'm trying to see them as well as I can.

Sounds good to me.

He was completely nude, except for a pair of white athletic socks. Oh, God. Unlike the previous victims, this body appeared to have been posed by the killer as well. This is a little graphic, just a little upsetting, just so you know. He was posed so that his buttocks stuck out. It was obviously done to appear very crass. It was supposed to be a humiliating way to pose someone.

I fucking hate this guy so much.

He's fucking gross. He's disgusting.

I don't understand the depravity to do that to another person, to do anything like this to another person, and then to stage someone like that. But to stage someone like that.

The humiliation that he's trying to inflict, I feel like he is humiliated by who he is as a human being and who his soul is. So he just it on other people. But detectives also noticed that the victim had marks on his wrists, which indicated that he had been bound for at least some period of time. There were also marks around his neck, which has become a hallmark here. The autopsy was conducted a few days later by Dr. Brittany Somers, who collected the usual hair and fiber evidence and also conducted a rape kit that they hoped could maybe be used for a DNA comparison if they ever got a suspect. Dr. Somers concluded that Kenneth Randolph had only been dead five or six hours when his body had been discovered in the field. So very fresh. He had superficial abrasions on his arms and legs and a large horizontal abrasion stretching from his forehead to his chest. Wow. There were abrasions on his wrists from where he'd been bound, and one of his wrists had bled, indicating that the ligature was tied really tightly and had cut into the skin, and he was alive, obviously.

Finally, Dr. Somers concluded that the cause of death was strangulation, evident by a, quote, hemorrhaging on the underlying soft tissue surrounding the hyoid bone. Okay. Despite the obvious ligature mark on Randolph's neck, Dr. Somers was unable to determine whether he died from a ligature or manual strangulation, which there's a pretty decent ligature mark on his neck. I don't know if it was just she couldn't tell whether he died from that or whether he put his own manual pressure onto it. I don't know. That's strange to me.

Maybe there are signs of both, so she couldn't say which one he had died from.

Yeah, because I suppose the hyoid bone thing, maybe that could bring it into place. It's just interesting that they weren't able to pin it. But less than two weeks after the discovery of Randolph's body in the cane field, another young black man had gone missing from Homa on the evening of October 12, 2002. So not long after. Not at all. Shelle Weston wasn't too worried when her boyfriend, 26-year-old Anoka Jones, hadn't returned after. I guess he had just come home a few minutes earlier than that, and he had brought his bicycle in the apartment, and then he was like, Oh, I'm just going to go outside for a smoke. At first, she wasn't super worried because apparently, he would say he was going to go out for a smoke, and that didn't always just entail going out for a smoke. So if he didn't come back right away, it wasn't too alarming. It wasn't too alarming. But then several hours had passed, and she was like, maybe he went somewhere. That's different. Maybe he went somewhere. I don't know. He does this sometimes. She was like, I guess it's a little weird, but she wasn't super worried at first.

Okay. So she just went to bed and she was like, he'll come back in. But when she woke up the following day, he still wasn't home, and she hadn't heard from him. She became very alarmed and reported him missing right away, but then it was already too late. I don't know. Jones's body was discovered under the interstate 310 Overpass the following He was discovered by Officer John Smith. He was a patrol officer who just happened to be driving in the area. Officer Smith immediately noticed drag marks leading from the body to the edge of the road, which indicated that he was obviously dumped there. Otherwise, looking around the scene, there was really nothing else to indicate what had happened or the cause of death right away. Now, at the time of the discovery, Jones was clothed, but his shirt had been pulled halfway up his torso, and his pants had been pulled down to mid-thigh. There was a small amount of dried blood around his mouth and surface abrasions on his torso and hands, which also could be partially from dragging. Right.

I was just going to ask you that.

Now, like the other victims, Anoka Jones's cause of death was asphyxia by strangulation, and the manner of death is considered to be homicide. So right away, it's fitting right in.

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Now, through interviews with Jones's friends and family, investigators learned that several hours before he'd gone missing from his girlfriend's apartment, Anoka Jones and a friend had been confronted on the street by two men who had pulled up alongside them in a gray truck. Now, according to Jones's friend, Ron Gibbons, Jones ran as soon as the men got out of the truck, so he ran away. Because apparently in the truck, there was a very known drug dealer that was riding in the back seat. I guess this, I'm not going to name him because this drug dealer denied any knowledge of or having any participation in Anoka Jones's murder after this because he was obviously brought in after that. But he rattled off a list of other associates, anyone he knew who could have been responsible for the murder. He offered up hair and saliva samples, and he said anything else detectives needed to get him off this list of suspects. Wow. He was I did not do this.

That's very surprising. Isn't that wild? He would give them all that being a well-known drug dealer.

Yeah, and they were able to cross him off the list. He didn't do it.

I mean, that's nice that he helped.

I'm glad he at least helped a little bit. Now, despite being pointed in the direction of drug dealers, detectives in Lafouche Parish had a feeling that Jones's murder had nothing to do with drugs. Meanwhile, investigators in other parishes around New Orleans had begun reading through reports of unsolved murders in surrounding jurisdictions They started noticing the connections between their unsolved cases and those as far out as Homa. Now, remember, one of the things about Ronald Dominique that we are going to talk about a lot and mention a lot is that he made sure he killed in different jurisdictions. He not only killed people in marginalized communities and people he knew were going to be vulnerable, he also moved it around a lot to really make it a mess to investigate. He really made this as fucking horrific as he could for everyone involved.

It makes sense.

For example, detectives working the Kenneth Randolph case in Jefferson Parish, arranged to speak with the friends and families of Anoka Jones, hoping they might discover any common associates, any enemies that they both might have had that maybe led to their murders. Unfortunately, other than some shared habits and lifestyles that the two men maybe had in common, they really didn't have a lot in common other than that. In most cases, the murder of a dozen people under very similar circumstances would likely cause public outrage. You would think. An intense pressure on the police to get the person responsible. Of course. I mean, we've seen it a million times when it's a different a victim. Sometimes the pressure is bad when it's a different victim because they get so pressured that they make mistakes or they rush to grab someone who might not have done it. Here, in the case of Ronald Dominique, the victims were all marginalized men of color from impoverished communities. The way the media was portraying it was they led, high-risk lifestyles.

Which is not a fucking thing.

So there was no internal or external pressure on investigators to catch this person.

It's like, why wouldn't you just want to anyways?

Yeah. And again, like I said before, this was all made even more complex and garbled by the fact that Dominique committed these crimes in multiple jurisdictions, sometimes as much as 60 or 70 miles apart.

Wow. So he just drove around.

Getting close departments to even work together can be hard. Right. Never mind getting that thing. You're contending with- With a lot. A complex system and also contending with egos. Pride. Pride with people not keeping accurate records or not keeping a good chain of custody on evidence or not interviewing the right people, not having the record they need. Human error. Human error. You're doing it with miles apart trying to put these together. Just like statewide. Yeah. Now, Anoka Jones was the 12th man killed by Ronald Dominique, and eight months would pass before he killed again.

It's like, he should have been stopped at this point. The fact that so many more people had to die because this just wasn't top priority is so fucking disgusting.

That's what kills me. It's like this asshole, this monster took moments of de-escalation. That's your time. Use that time. Hone in. Really hone in. Stop the next room from happening. It feels almost like they didn't... I will say they didn't have a lot of evidence to go on either. He didn't leave a lot of these scenes. I'll say that for them. It's not like they had all this evidence and they were just ignoring it. But it's like, you got to put the nose to the grindstone and you got to try to stop that next room from happening.

Where's the task force being put together?

Warn the connect. That's a good thing that you say that because we will talk about that. I'm glad you mentioned it because I said the same thing. I was like, Task Force. At this point, twelve murders in. Like, time to set up. Task Force time. Right? And also, it's like you're not warning the correct communities of people. To be vigilant. You're leaving pieces out of the puzzle because you want people to feel like they want to help more, which is even sadder. But you're not warning the right people. The right people don't have their guards up.

It's so interesting to me because obviously we're talking about high-risk life styles, which we don't even think is a thing, but that's what they were claiming. No, it's just how they were describing it. It's how it was labeled. But it's like, sex work is considered high risk. Even police forces will warn sex workers, and then they'll band together and look out for each other once. We've told those kinds of stories. Of course. It's like, why didn't it happen here? Because these people could have looked out for one another. This is the gay community. It's the Black community. They could have looked out for one another and would have.

Exactly. That's the thing. It's like, you didn't even give them a fighting chance. And it's, why? It's fucked up. And there's points when the next murder happens and you say that you could have at least tried to stop that from happening. Absolutely. We're going to hear some comments about these things that are really distressing the way that they were looked at. And it's just like, oh, no. But you need to hear it because you need to hear how awful this was and why a lot of people don't know about it. That's wild to me that a lot of people...

I didn't I didn't. Until you brought it up, I had never heard of Ronald Dominic.

Yeah, and it's shameful.

Maybe he heard his name on a TV show or something like that, but not as much as I should have known.

I was going to say, and maybe. Because they don't do anything. This is not told. Now, on the afternoon of Saturday, May 24, 2003, 18-year-old Dutrelle Woods left his mother's house in Homa, telling his cousin he was going to stay with his girlfriend for the night. Now, from the moment his friend, Gary Bird Wright, had arrived to pick him up, Dutrelle's mother, Margaret Woods, said she had a feeling something bad was going to happen to her son. Oh, wow. She actually tried to convince him not to go out that night.

Oh, that's so haunting. That's a mama.

And I...

Oh, my heart breaks for her. Oh, that poor woman. And to not be able to convince him and then have your worst fears confirmed. No, because he's 18.

He's like, What are you talking about, mom? You know what I mean? Yeah, of course.

We've all been like, whatever.

I'm 18.

Mom, I'm fine.

He's like, Mom, I'm fine. Again, Dutrelle was just like, Mom, it's fine. Don't worry about it. And then he reminded her, I left my bike at Gary's, so if nothing else, I need to go get it back. And he's like, I promise you I'm going to be back tomorrow. Oh, God. And he told her that, I promise you I'll be back tomorrow. The next day, two men riding dirt bikes in a cane field off Highway 56 in Bayou Blue discovered Dutrelle Wood's body laying next to his bicycle. Laying next to his bicycle. Oh, my God. So he had gone to get his bicycle. Yeah. And he was probably coming home. Yeah. Now, when they'd finally managed to find a telephone, the two dirt bike riders told police they had I, quote, found a black man who was dead and puffy. That's what they said. Now, unfortunately, when detectives arrived at the scene, what they were describing was that decomposition was well underway. It appeared as if the man had been in the field for much longer than he actually had been.

Is that because we're dealing with the elements?

I think it was mostly the elements, but it was very interesting because they were like, it really looks like he's been here longer, but he hadn't. Now, among the first things that Homa, a city detective, and let me just preface this, his name rimes. It's a little...

Sometimes you need a little cute.

It's going to give you a little giggle. I don't want anyone to think I'm laughing at anything inappropriate. It's just this name rimes. His name is Detective Simon Freiman.

All righty.

It's a pretty awesome name.

Go, Detective Freiman.

There's your quick little take a breath for a minute because this is very heavy. Take a breath. Thank you, Detective Simon Freiman, for having that name. Yeah, exactly. But coming right back into it, one of the first things that he noticed was that Woods wasn't wearing any shoes, yet he had no dirt on the bottom of his feet. That indicated that he was already dead when his body was left in the cane field. He obviously didn't walk out there. Also, the tires on his bike appeared clean, and there weren't any tire tracks in the dirt, which also suggested that whoever had dumped his body had also carried the bike to the scene instead of rolling it there, which That's interesting. That does give you insight into the possible builds or strength that this person has. Absolutely. They're not only bringing his body out there.

But the bike, too.

But holding the bike, not rolling the bike. It's like, that's an interest. To me, that's like, huh? When you look at Ronald Dominique, when they finally catch him, he's a big guy. He's very intimidating. It's like, that was very telling. It's something small, but it's something.

It's anything.

We don't have anything else. That's a little bit insight, I think. I'm assuming they caught that, I would hope, but that would be first on my mind. I think we're looking for someone that's big and strong. Now, the preliminary autopsy found no signs of trauma or injury to Dittrelle's body, and there were no signs of defensive wounds, like the preliminary autopsy. Okay. Also, it didn't appear as though he'd been bound at either the wrists or the ankles. The only evidence pointing to murder was that Dittrelle Woods had been manually strangled, which was the cause of death. Okay. That's why the preliminary autopsy, taking one look at the body, the outside, that's what a preliminary one usually is. They didn't see anything that would stick out to them because one, he was already in a strangely accelerated state of decomposition. That's throw it off a little. But also that's why you didn't see any outside injuries. It's because he was manually strangled. That makes sense. Which, again, is strange as well because he wasn't bound.

Yeah, we're going back and forth.

So it's like, how did that happen? But then again, this is an 18-year-old young man- Going up against Ronald. Going against this very large man. So I guess I can see that he could probably do it pretty quickly. Now, according to the few friends that they were able to speak to, Dutrelle was described by them as slow in his learning capabilities, which just goes to show you he was vulnerable. Yeah. He was part of that whole... Ronald Dominique is a little monstrous bitch, and he goes after marginalized and vulnerable people It's just fucked up. When you hear that, you're like, That's so fucked up. It is. It just makes me so angry. It's another level of fucked up upon every other level that he's already checked off. It really is. It makes It makes Dutrelle so much more vulnerable to asshole predators like this. It's really upsetting to think about. But like nearly all of Dominique's victims, Dutrelle Woods had been somewhat known to police for some minor offenses. And according to a detective, and this is the part that's really going to get your blood boiling, everybody, so get ready. According to Detective Dennis Thornton, when it came to investigating the murders of people they considered on the fringes of proper society, I will say, they described it as, quote, The attitude was, 'don't break your neck'.

They were like, Don't put yourself out investigating these murders.

' Don't put yourself up.

Don't break your neck trying to investigate these situations. Any person that gets killed in your jurisdiction, you should break your neck. You should do your fucking damn this because that's the job you took.

Well, and they didn't say, Try your hardest for these certain kinds of people.

' No, just don't break your neck over it. Don't put yourself out. It's like, they're not even being subtle about that. No, not at all. He said that with his whole chest. He said the quiet part out loud. That man just said, Yep, this is the attitude everybody had.

And he said, Hello, I'm a racist. What the fuck?

You got to start thinking about it. Because we look at these serial killers and we're like, How does a human being get to that point where they just have no humanity left in them? How is that part of the human species, that person?

But then you see that inside of them.

Then you see the people outside of that who are supposed to be fighting against this and are supposed to be. It's like, How the fuck are you? You're just like, Oh, my God. It's upsetting to think that people in power like that and people in authority can have those biases and thoughts. Some people are worth it and some people aren't. That could never cross your mind.

Who the fuck are you to decide?

That's the thing.

Who the fuck are you? That's the thing. What makes you any better than anybody else?

I don't get it. I'm like, None of us are perfect. No. None of us have a squeaky clean from day one fucking reputation. It's like, no, everybody has made mistakes. Everybody has stepped out of the line a little bit. Everybody has done something regretful in their life. If you say you haven't, you are lying and enjoy your But everybody. So it's like for you to be able to judge someone else so harshly while sitting there with dirt on you two is so wild to me because I'm like, we're all- We're all fucked up. We're all unclean, everybody. We're all just doing our best. Most of us are out here trying to do our best. But it doesn't look like you are when you're acting that way to your fellow human. No. You read about these family members and friends of these these young men. Most of them that I have read, all of the ones that I've read that have spoken about it, have said that these men were trying to get themselves back on track. They had families, they had kids in most cases. They were working. They were just trying to get themselves above water.

It's like everyone's been there.

Well, and also everybody is somebody, somebody. Exactly. I think that's the attitude that you should have if you're an investigator. Yes. Everybody is somebody, somebody. Because you're somebody, somebody, and you have a somebody, how do you not look at it like that?

How do you not see that? Because working in the morgue, that's how we looked at every single person who came in there, is this is somebody, somebody, so you treat it like it's your somebody. Exactly. Because I would want somebody to treat my somebody as their somebody in that situation.

It's also just like, I don't understand why we're going off, but I don't understand why you go into this line of work if that's not how you think.

I know. I don't know why are you here? Sometimes it's a power thing. It is. It absolutely is. Some people are there to help and to be the person that takes care of people and is there to stop danger and keep people safe. Then some of them get into it because they like the power.

Yeah, it's an ego thing.

We've all been around those kind. We sure have. She said that with a heavy hand. We all know That was good.

Oh, that's just really sad. I can't imagine having to read that later as somebody's family member.

Just knowing that they were like, We're not going to break your neck to break our necks to figure out what happened to your child.

It's like, Wow, okay. I'm glad he got called out for saying that. Yeah.

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Now, a year and a half passed before Ronald Dominique killed again. See? Another de-escalation moment.

He goes like, boom, boom, boom, boom. He goes hard. One of those, there was like six days in between them, and then He's like, he goes off.

Hard. And then he stops for a while and they're not making headway. And it's like, take these opportunities to make the headway. But he had been laid off from his job at Caro Produce in January of 2004. But he quickly found another job with a maintenance company, and he worked there for six months. Then he left there for another job, not keeping a job, the classic serial killer.

A maintenance guy. Can you imagine that guy going into your fucking house? Yeah.

And then he got a job as a meter reader for an electric company, which was a job that required him to spend considerable time driving the backroads of Bayou Blue in the surrounding area. Now, one of those areas was De Alamans, which I think I said that right. I looked it up a million times. De Alamans, an unincorporated region that fell in both St. Charles and Lafouche parishes, everywhere in Louisiana. In late October, Hurricane Matthew hit the Greater New Orleans area. There was 80-mile-an-hour winds. I mean, it caused havoc, especially in the landscape in De Alamans, this unincorporated area. When the storm had finally passed through, Jeff Morrow had gone out to survey the damage around town. Just one of the residents just going around. That's when he noticed the body of a young man lying beside a pond about 20 minutes from his home. Jeff Morrow headed back to his house to get his neighbor. His neighbor was Dawn Jerome, who was a criminalist with the Saint Charles Sheriff's Department. So he was like, You're a good person to have. They both returned to the pond, and he helped survey the scene. Now, during this initial examination of the body at the scene, Jerome was unable to find any identification on the victim.

This man's body was extremely wet, which indicated that the killer had dumped this man's body during the hurricane. Oh. This suggested that he was desperate to get rid of this man's body. Yeah. Once detectives arrived on the scene, Jerome took photographs and searched for any evidence on or around this man's body, but found nothing. Now, the autopsy was conducted the following day, and during this, Dr. Frank Johnson determined, quote, whoever had killed the victim had used a lot of force.

Oh, wow.

Also, Johnson discovered the victim had suffered blunt force trauma to his shoulder, lower back, and buttocks, and clotted blood was in the muscles of the neck, which was indicative of very strong strangulation. Wow. Very aggressive. Despite all this evidence of violence, the cause of death was listed as accidental cocaine overdose. What? Yep. Why? I want you to hear that again. Dr. Frank Johnson said that the victim was killed using a lot of force. That's a quote. And then said that there It was blunt force trauma to his shoulder, lower back, and buttocks, and clotted blood in the muscles of the neck, indicative of strangulation. But the cause of death is accidental cocaine overdose. How? What? Yeah.

How did they get away with that? How did they get away with a lot of that stuff? Was there even any cocaine in this person's system? Like, what?

No idea.

Blunt force trauma to cocaine overdose?

Yeah. Obviously, In the middle of a hurricane.

What? It's like, is there even any damage to the heart whatsoever?

It doesn't make any sense. What? Now, and again, we still don't know who this person is. So fingerprints taken by the coroner turned out to be a match for 46-year-old Larry Matthews. Police reports described him as, quote, somewhat homeless.

Which I was like, the fuck does that mean?

A nice way to describe someone. Matthews apparently had few connections in the area. And according to his brother, though, there was no one who would have wanted to hurt him. No. And a day later, however, detectives in Thibodeau got a call from Homa police saying that they had a man in custody by the name of Jim Jarman. And this man named Jim Jarman had information about the murder of Larry Matthews. Now, according to Jarman, he had been visiting a friend in Thibodeau a few nights earlier when Larry Matthews showed up at the house and the two men got talking about drugs. This is according to Jim Jarman, by the way.

Yeah, who's currently being held. Held.

Now, according to Jim Jarman, Matthews told him he knew where he could get some drugs and some sex workers. But in order to do so, he'd need to borrow Jim Jarman's car. So Jarman agreed and gave Matthews the keys, but Matthews never returned. Which is why Jarman contacted police and actually filed a police report for his missing car.

Okay. It's a very strange story.

Don't know if that whole thing, that is all from Jim Jarman. We do know that apparently he filed a police report because his car was missing because he thought Larry Matthews had run off with it.

Okay.

Using the information provided by Jarman, detectives were able to trace Larry Matthews' movements back to a party where he'd left from. But beyond that, they really had nothing to work with. A day later, the car Matthews had left in was found to be in the possession of four young men who fled after being pulled and the car was impounded and then returned to Jim Jarman. This is strange. So they claimed that there appeared to be no signs of violence or foul play at the scene or in the car. And so, detectives stuck with the cause of death provided by the coroner and the case was officially closed.

That's the wildest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Truly wild. Bluntforce trauma. Nope, cocaine. Nope, cocaine. And indicative of strangulation.

No, cocaine.

Ronald Dominique waited less than two weeks to kill again. We said, he goes through these bursts. In late October 2004, the owners of Gator Storage, which was a self-storage business in Bayou Blue, they got a complaint from a customer who was saying there was a bad smell coming from one of the units. They went out to check the offending unit, and they found out that it wasn't held by pad locks and chains, which was typical of a storage unit. It was held shut with only a twist-eye. What? The woman noticed the smell right away, and she also noticed a dark fluid resembling blood seeping out from under the storage unit door.

That's absolutely terrifying.

She opened the door to the unit, and she was confronted with the dead body of a man she believed to be middle-aged, maybe in his 50s. Oh, God. Homa police were dispatched to gator storage, and they were accompanied by the Terrebone. I believe that's how you say it. I hope I said it right. Terrebonne Parish Sheriff's deputies. They immediately learned that the business had very little, if any, security measures in place. Especially for a storage business. There were no cameras, no alarms. Come on. No other technology that they could rely on for any helper leads, which is probably why this one was chosen. In fact, the only thing detectives had to work with was the list of 50 or so names of renters that were provided to them by the owners of Gator Storage. Wow. They ran through every name on it, and they still had no idea who the man in the storage shed was or how he got in there in the first place. Okay. The body was initially labeled called a John Doe. It was transported to the coroner's office. Due to the heat and humidity in the storage unit, the state of decomp was very far along, much too far along to determine really much of anything.

Other than that, this victim was a white male and in his early 20s. They thought he was in his 50s. That's how decomposed his body was. And that there was no signs, obvious signs of trauma to the body. But again, that's tough. Yeah. Autopsy move the body to refrigeration, hoping an identification would come and provide some more details. Now, a couple of days later, Homa police receive a call from a local business owner named Frances Barber. She was concerned that she hadn't seen or heard from her friend, Michael Barnet. The last time she'd seen him was on Friday, October 24th, when he left her apartment on his bicycle telling her he had plans to meet a girl at a nearby fire station. Detective showed Barber a sketch of a dragon tattoo that they had actually taken from the body they found in the freezer, or excuse me, in the storage unit. Yeah. And Barber confirmed that it was indeed Michael Barnet's tattoo saying, I'm positively sure Michael has that tattoo. I remember seeing it many times. Now, while detectives finished up their interview with Francis Barber, Detective Simon, our friend Detective Simon there, went to the fire station to talk to anyone who was on duty that night that the man was said to be on his way there.

But no one remembered having seen him. No one saw anything out of the ordinary that night, so it didn't appear that he had made it there. Right. Now, they only had a tentative identification at this point. A tattoo is a pretty good identification, but you can't use it as word. But investigators interviewed Michael Barnet's friends and family, hoping it would lead them to physical evidence they could use to confirm the identification. In the process, they learned that Barnet had come to Louisiana from Mississippi several years earlier and had on and off again relationships with his friends and family, but they, too, had grown concerned about him when several weeks had passed and they hadn't heard from him. They were like, Yeah, it's on and off, how everything's going, tumultuous shit, every family, whatever. But they were like, We were worried when we hadn't heard from him himself. That wasn't normal. Now, according to two of Barnet's friends, he'd recently moved in with a new roommate named Dorian Bates, and they felt certain that Dorian was involved in whatever happened to their friend. Okay. Which is interesting. Meanwhile, another Detective, Dawn Bergeron, had received a warrant for Barnet's apartment, and she was hoping that there they would be able to find fingerprints or other physical evidence to confirm this identification, finally.

But it seemed Barnet had very few belongings at the time of his death. But Bergeron did discover that Barnet lived in a group home in his youth. This girl, this detective, I'm like, Girl, yes. She went for it. She did. Because she He found out when he was younger, he lived in a group home, and she was like, I bet he saw a dentist there. So by the time she tracked the dentist down, he had retired and had sold his practice. Fuck. But she was like, I'm going to talk to the new owner. So she talked to the new owner. The new owner kept all the old records and faxed Barnat's dental records to the Homeop police Department, and they were used to successfully identify the body discovered in the gator storage unit as being that of Michael Barnet. Which is so sad. Unfortunately.

But also you're happy that he was able to be identified.

Yeah. I'm glad that that detective took all those steps. The extra time. She went the distance to find those records.

She put her fucking neck out for it.

She did. Now, the local papers picked up on the story before detectives even knew the victim's name, and the press didn't hesitate to connect this latest victim to the serial killer stalking suburban New Orleans. This time, however, there was a break in the pattern, it seemed. Not only was Michael Barnet a white man, but the killer had also gone out of his way to hide his body. He hadn't left him out in the open.

Which he usually does.

He's usually pretty conspicuous. Unfortunately, while detectives also agreed that this was most likely the work of this serial killer that they didn't know who it was at this point, they found themselves at another dead end. They're not getting anything new here. They had managed to get as far as identifying this victim, but there was really no other evidence at the scene. The list of storage unit renters went nowhere. They looked into all of them. There was little else that they could do but wait until the killer found another victim, basically, which is what they would end up doing a lot. Now, as it turned out, Homa detectives didn't have to wait long to see another victim. On the morning of February 20th, 2005, a father and son were out riding their dirt bikes with a friend in a grassy field behind the Homa Shrine Center when one of them noticed some clothing laying on the ground. They went up to it to inspect further and realized it was, in fact, a person lying on the ground, but they couldn't tell whether he was alive. They thought maybe he was maybe just drunk and passed out, sleeping it off on a field.

Yeah. They've seen that before, apparently, or they were like, I didn't know if he dead or unconscious. Yeah. They called the Homa police who were immediately dispatched to the scene. Detective Simon was among the first to arrive at what was now a familiar scene, unfortunately. The man was lying on his side, wearing only blue jeans and socks, and he had clear ligature marks on his neck and wrists. As he was bagging one of the victim's hands for processing, Detective Freiman got a look at the young man's face and was shocked to realize that he knew who this person was. Oh, wow. This was 22-year-old Leon Lerrett, one of the suspects in the murder of Anoka Jones. Oh, wow. The last person. It was one of the last people to see Jones alive.

What the fuck? That's just by happenstance. It's wild.

Like so many other of Dominique's victims, Leon had struggled to maintain stable housing and had been arrested a few times for petty crimes. He would associate with some drug dealers in the area. That's how police knew him. Yeah. Detective Freiman immediately tracked down all those known associates, but none of them had seen Leon for several days, and his family hadn't heard from him in that time either. Yeah. Now, eventually, Freiman tracked Leon's movements to the Sugar Bowl Motel, which was a location that's pretty popular with sex workers and those looking to procure their services. According to two witnesses at the motel, Leon had been seen a couple of days before his death with another white guy driving an older-looking Chevrolet suburban. Okay. Now, while Freiman worked the streets trying to track down anyone who could help them find the killer, an autopsy technician began doing a primary analysis of Leon's body. As far as they could tell, Leon had been dead for about 24 to 36 hours before he was found. Hemorrhaging in both eyes indicated that the cause of death was likely strangulation, and there was evidence to suggest that he had been sexually assaulted.

Oh, no. Now, according to The autopsy technician, The victim was extremely drunk at the time of his death, and it would not have taken much force to strangle him. That's really sad. So he was taken advantage of in a big way. Also, the autopsy confirmed that Leon had been killed in almost exactly the same way as the other suspected serial killer murder victims. There was very little doubt at this point that he was part of this body count. Now, we're going to go into the last phase of murders between 2005 and 2006 now. Once again, Ronald Dominique's choice of victims, which are marginalized, transient, what the media was calling high-risk, vulnerable people, and his propensity to move between jurisdictions as he killed had worked to his advantage, unfortunately. He left almost no evidence at the scene of any of these men's bodies. Leon's transient lifestyle made it incredibly difficult for detectives to just trace his movements. They were trying to figure out where he'd been, and it was hard. While this had allowed him to successfully evade capture since the late 1990s, by 2005, it had also made him more brazen as well. He was becoming way more brazen.

I was waiting for that.

Which is usually when they fuck up and they got caught.

You would hope so.

Now, also, Dominique's body count was rising, and everyone in and around New Orleans was beginning to take note every time any body was found anywhere.

Finally.

Now, By the time the body of 31-year-old August Watkins was discovered in a field behind the La Forge Work Release Center, investigators knew it wasn't going to be possible to conduct this investigation quietly and out of the public eye. They were trying to keep a lot of things quiet.

I'm surprised they were able to for as long as they did.

Me too. But it was honestly becoming detrimental because so much speculation was happening. Now, Watkins was a black man known to police for some petty crimes. But he had a history of unstable housing and employment. Now, at the time of his death, Watkins had just been evicted from his apartment, and he had been sleeping in the stairway underneath the Homa tunnel. Oh, that's the saddest thing ever.

I know.

Now, an autopsy confirmed that Watkins' cause of death was strangulation. The discovery of August Watkins meant that he was the 17th victim of this killer. This prompted the Homa police chief, Pat Boudreau, to call a press conference. He said, I think there is enough evidence to be concerned there is a serial killer in our area. 17 bodies, I would think. Yeah, thank you for finally coming to that. He pointed to the unsolved murders of all these men in parishes around New Orleans and told the press that law enforcement officials from various agencies had been working together to determine whether the murders of Anoka Jones, Dittrelle Woods, Michael Barnet, Leon Lerrett, and August Watkins were related. Chief Investigator for St. Charles Parish, Sam Zina, told reporters, We think without question, Jones fits into the group with Homa and La Forge as far as lifestyles and being found along the same corridor area. So they're at least coming forward with something.

Finally.

Now, in all the counties where Dominique's victims had been discovered, investigators did their best to coordinate with one another, like we were saying. But what they really needed was an official state-sanctioned task force. I think somebody mentioned that. I think somebody mentioned that. It should have been happening so much earlier than this. Way earlier. When you finally get that official state sanction task force, you get all the resources that come with that.

Exactly.

They needed it.

Bad badly.

They needed it so much earlier than this. When they were hitting those long stretches of eight months, a year between murders, that task force should have been put into position so that they could use all that shit to move it forward. They were just sitting there with this stale case and letting another body appear out of nowhere. They didn't care enough. It's like, what the fuck? Again, we've seen task force work so well before.

We've seen it. And way sooner.

Now, unfortunately, The federal authorities found the links between the cases, their high-risk lifestyles, too tenuous to justify the cost of a statewide task force.

They were all killed in exactly the same manner, and a lot of them were disposed in the same manner.

It's a polite way of saying that the victims, gay Black men who some were involved in sex work, had a transient lifestyle, saying that they weren't exactly sympathetic enough to warrant the expense of similar task forces. Ones that at the time had been recently assembled to catch Baton Rouge serial killer, Derek Todd Lee, whose victims were white college co-eds.

That's so fucked up.

So that one, they're saying quietly. They're making sure that one stays a little more subtle. But that's what they were saying.

It's just so sad.

How does 17 young men not justify a task force? I don't get that. And how do you think that? I don't give a shit what the reasoning is.

The fact that so many people had to get together and decide upon this, and they all collectively came to the same decision.

No one was like, What the fuck, guys?

You have to hope that somebody sitting in one of those rooms was like, Are you fucking kidding me? But they had no...

But they did not pull. Yeah. Now it's awful.

Oh, that's so disheartening. It is.

Now, the increased press coverage of the case and the speculation from various outlets that the cases might be linked was precisely the attention that they did need to move that needle in the right direction because people were starting to put these together. Following the discovery August walk-ins, a small amount of resources was allocated to finally assemble a task force to catch this killer. It was as soon as they came out and said, You know what? I don't think it's fine. It's tenuous. We're not really worried about it. That's when finally the pressure came in where they were like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's 17 dead bodies here. What are we doing here? Let's get it together. Finally, the right communities are hearing about it, too. They're able to put pressure on finally because they're finally hearing that they're at this. They're together. So this included law enforcement from each of the parishes in which each of the victims were discovered. So this is a lot of parishes coming together for this task force, too. That's great. And they started with Oliver La Banks. Remember Oliver? Yes. For some reason, Oliver, just like, when you look up a picture of these men, and I'm telling you, it's going to rip your heart out.

Oliver has a very familiar face.

He does. He reminds me of someone. But look up pictures of these men because I'm telling you, it's going to tear I don't mean crime scene photos. I mean photos of who they are.

Who they were in their lives.

That'll make you realize how... If you haven't already realized how horrific it is that they were completely ignored and just treated as trash.

Yeah, completely dehumanized.

They started with Oliver Le Banks, and they went through the most recent victim, August Watkins, with this task force. Finally, we're going to see a little movement forward in this case. That's where she's going to run up for part two. That is where I'm going to leave off on part two.

Oh, my gosh. Which you know what, though, that was a very heavy episode. I think you're leaving us with some hope, which I have to thank you for.

And have hope because- Because my God. In part three, we have some more heavy stuff coming up. Yeah, of course. But it's a lot taken all at once. But we are going to get a little bit.

We're going to get something at the end. We're moving in the right direction.

I promise you we will finally see. But just understand how awfully this case was represented in the press. When it was represented at all.

I don't know how you couldn't at this point.

It's wild to me. Wow. But stay tuned for- But these poor families that had to sit around years and years and years and just think like, well, is the day ever going to come that I'm I'm trying to find out what happened to my kid? These families had to push just to get their family members treated like human beings. And then they also had to sit there. We have in part three, we'll talk about it. These families would have to talk to reporters just to try to get it moved forward, and they would have to be like, Yeah, my son made mistakes. He had some tough struggles in life, but he was doing this. It's like, you shouldn't have to validate why your child or why this person that you love is a human being that deserves to be treated like a human being. That's so sad that you have to validate that. Yeah, he made mistakes, but he was doing better. It's like, That's okay that he made mistakes. He's still a person.

It's so gross that people are put in that position.

It's just so upset.

But no, I'm glad that we're going to get some justice in part three.

So stay tuned for part three.

Yeah. And with that being said, we hope you keep listening.

And we hope you keep it weird.

I don't have to tell you not to keep it this weird.

It's just really sad. God Almighty.

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