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This is exactly right. You nailed that and did it exactly right. This is a huge theater here and gave me a look right before he said that of terror, because here's what. I'll be happy to hear that last night she called Charleston Charlotte. You know what we do for a living? Pretend you don't. I mean, there's times where you just can't hide what's in your heart. Thanks, I've never been. We minimize it further humiliation, and she thought last night, oh, mother here.

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Oh. We knew that you guys would make up for it by being stoked about it. So thank you. You really you really reflected that. Here's the thing, this is such a big theater, I don't think the front row needs to be this close. I mean, for real. I mean, I almost snatched a beer out of it. I mean, you don't want to see me do this drunk shot for anyone. This guy looks like we're in fucking Vienna or something.

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Look at this. Like it's tiered. And those guys see balconies. It's a strip, some opera shit going on up here, which is great because. Did you know about George's hidden talent? Did you know it's my hidden talent is that I will never sing for you ever. I know that I shouldn't and I won't. Meanwhile, I can't wait. Thank you. That's my new song, Ham on Rye. Speaking of fucking up, this is our opening that we called what we did wrong so far this weekend.

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I feel horrible. I don't think that she's here, but every good person she listens to. I just want to apologize. I totally forgot about this gentleman today. I can't stop thinking about how awful I feel. There's a girl. There's a girl in the airport. But way back in Durham, right? Yeah. Good years back. Years, like just like when we were children on Friday. Crazy. And like, there's this face that you can recognize now that she and I could recognize a recognition that they recognize.

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Yeah, we're recognizing and they're recognizing. We're recognizing that we're recognizing it to recognize active moment. Yeah. And there's reckoning. Yeah. There's a reckoning to be had. Right. That's true. And you stand and you're like, OK, look, it's really the best. We're always like it's everyone we meet is like everyone here is like someone we would be friends with anyway. So you're never and it's like, what the fuck? I'm getting recognized.

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There's layers. There's a lot of layers to the podcast. But, you know, my stupid face like this is the best I've ever been bummed about. And I fucking hope I never am. So this girl. But but this girl gets up. I see her doing the reckoning and she gets up. She's like over there kind of. And and I go and I, I do this because I'm like, oh, she's going to come say hi.

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I go, Oh no. Oh not like really. Oh no. Oh my God. You know, like I meant it positively, right. No, no, no, no. I was I went up my my blood type. That's no positive. Oh is that right. Donate. It hurts but it's worth it. Yeah.

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Well that was so nice. And I also I don't think she heard you at all because she did see your happy face. So that's how that really I mouthed, oh no.

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Oh no. And it's one of those things that like it looked like I was whispering to you like and I was doing a happy face and going, oh, no, Karen, here comes another one, which is not what I was doing. I mean, I was like Twitter.

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That is bad for feeling for us. Right.

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Which is all that matters, but maybe not as bad as the first night which happened when we were doing our funny joke of pretending that we know college mascots and sports.

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And, you know, the first one that we did, I Georgia mentioned some school for some reason I was like and there the fighting is the scary. Getting put on the spot, like on my couch is fine. But but but in the theater like this, it's it's a little pressure. And on that one, Georgia goes the fighting wake borders, which made me laugh for fucking ever. And then I get about forty five minutes later, some college came up, Duke and she she we were I mentioned Duke you'll love this.

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Are you saying Duke or Blue. Great, great, then you'll love this seems like what's funny is if they're mentioning Duke, but they're saying it like sounds the same anyway, you may want to work on that next semester. So you say Duke and I said, and they're the fighting. And then I went and did a but what they call an improv failure or I just kind of didn't say anything because I said what I wanted to say was hillbillies.

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I didn't and then she said, oh, I wanted to say hillbilly, but I didn't want it. So she told me I said it right to their fucking faces. But they had they had this same reaction, so it doesn't seem to be the problematic phrase I thought it was. And here's this is what we thought we were like, oh, my God. And in California on the TV, rain, hurricanes. Oh, my God, everything's so awful.

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It must be cold there. So we brought jackets and shit because in our minds are like rain. Well out those long pants. I've got a fucking wool sweater I need. This is seriously, truly one of the thicker dresses I could be wearing right now. We didn't. We don't we don't fucking know. And that's like we got off the plane into a sauna that's on one or two or just like, sorry, your heat also has water in it.

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What's happening? What's happening. Oh, also last night said. I said. It's not that funny, I just said our husband, Vince. So that was embarrassing. That was very funny and. But we made it we made it through we've made it through the rains. Oh, that's tasty. Yeah. Oh, by the way, this is my favorite murder of the podcast.

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Thank you. Thank you. That's Karen Kagara. That's Georgia Shark Week making. Steven's not here, he's taking a hundred photos of my cats right now. Sorry, he I feel like he I think he came in.

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My dad was watching him the first two days. And I think that Steven snuck in, ripped up the bag of treats that my dad left out with his pills in it. And so Elba's opened it like OTTF fine on it and ran out. So my dad looks really bad and he'll never fucking catch it again. I would not put that past Steven and his deep, bizarre passion for cats, and he would absolutely set me up so hard that your father would never be welcome back in your apartment.

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And that's now purely Steven's domain specific. I know you're for it. I'm like I support it. Kind of like if you love my cats that much.

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What more do you want? I mean, we should give him those cards. She just wrapped three cats up in a box for Christmas. We were going to give you a monetary bonus. We decided you like cats better here. Three cats. The equivalent to do what? You will take as many pictures as you want. Day and night, Steven would probably die of thirst because he would just continue to take pictures and not feed or water himself.

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You got to wonder because truly, like, he'll send me one photo of me, me, and it's the most gorgeous photo I've ever seen in my life. And then I'm like, how long did you do it?

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Like, I bet it's I bet he seems obsessed with me based on how many photos of my cat he has on his.

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Oh, I was rude. I'm sorry, Steven. Cut that and they are obsessed with me. I think you mildly like me and tolerate me. Here's the thing that I love everyone. So I think about we just we just have at it, Steven, at the top of every live show because, you know, that's that's our job. It's in the contract, the contract Steven gave us. And then, yeah, he's the CEO of this company.

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So I don't know who did that. But but then I love the idea that the first person to ever listen to any of these episodes is Steven alone, like any indictments at night in my apartment. So that's stupid to me. All right. That's right. What if all those little pill bags are just like have been pre perforated?

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What are the odds? Just it could be. What if he's just mixing up my pills just because he's like, I'm going to get back at her shouldn't be tonight. But then he's like, hey, how how do you feel? Big mustache, smile. Hey. Hey. I brought you some water to take more pills. Ready? Ready to record. No.

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Oh, what does what do you want. And you want to know about the fresh out of Karen's ears earrings I'm wearing as brooches tonight. Thank you. That's the kind of friends we are. Yeah. I didn't wake them up or anything and they keep stabbing me.

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I will absolutely be brought in for questioning. Murder, DNA, match DNA on that dress. Yeah. What is this called. This part of your body called the colloquia.

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Colloquia the clavicle. Oh sorry. Sorry. The hillbilly. The Decco Liotard. The decoration area. Huh. Yeah. This is a beautiful God. This is. I'm so glad we brought it from home. Yeah. Balcony knows what this looks like. Yeah. Yes, a bed, bath and Beyond. Am I right? So beyond shall we sit in our aims office chair? Sure, sure.

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Oh, we wanted to I don't know how we're going to tell the story.

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So many good stories when we meet people in the VIP. Everybody is an amazing relative who dated Ted Bundy. Every single person, every single person's aunt went on one date with Ted Bundy. It was the 70s. Everyone works in the correctional system and has a secret about someone somewhere. And we've got some good ones. Last night when we had some people come through a line and a man told us that he he apologized and said, sorry, I had to run out during the show because I had to go sign an arrest warrant because there was a man who got caught nude covered in olive oil in a woman's bedroom.

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I was just like, I have an inkling that you're a judge and you just watch that shit we did on the stage, that's believable. And we were like, we should have brought you up. But he was giggling so hard about it that we were like, this is inappropriate now. It was finally a private conversation. Women of this audience would appreciate you laughing hysterically. He wasn't laughing at that part. Full rotation on these chairs by the full fucking rotation will keep going around it.

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Yeah, send someone olive oil these chairs up real good before we came out here. Keep looking up there. And I'm like this. Also, the girl who did the woman who did the hometown last night has changed the rules of the hometown. You can only come up here if you're a dive bar bartender. Yeah, guys, you guys can talk to anyone. Nobody. You have divers here. They're all just like, come on, don't worry.

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I'm a bartender.

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This is a true crime comedy podcast. That's correct.

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Oh, yes. So don't get it twisted. We always try to explain this. It's very important for the people who have been brought here against their will. Hi, how are you? Podcasts are this thing that they invented about eight years ago for people to listen to while they're at jobs they hate. Yeah, it's like a radio show, right. So they can be with their friends and not feel bad. And this one in particular is true crime.

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Also comedy, which can be a very complex combination. There's a lot of feelings that take place. There's a lot of Upsala Sharpes up Sharpstown and trust us, we know what we're doing. And if you don't like it, get the fuck out. Serious. That's all it's all we can tell you. Oh, I have family in the audience. I have family in the audience tonight. This whole matter. All your family. Yes, everybody.

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Yes, it's Denise, Mary Jane. No, it's this is my favorite. I once got a tweet about this. A girl sent a tweet that said, you don't have to say your sister's friend, Adrian. We know who. Adrian. So Adrian's here tonight, everybody. You really got that sweet, that's aggressively nice. It was hilarious, just like you don't have to keep explaining to the people on this show. But I've known Adrian since I was 10 and she was 12.

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She's basically like my sister. But it's weird to say sister, because then it seems like, you know, we're in Nexium or some weird shit like that.

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Like, it's not it's not like that.

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But she looks more like your sister than your sister. Looks like your sister. Yeah. I mean, she does. We look more everybody thinks she and I are sisters and also at every major, major family event that I have missed, people always just walk up to her and say, Hi, Karen, which is my favorite, and she doesn't like it at all, but also her eldest son, the first born Connery's here also, and that she holds him up.

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He's a grown up, but she holds up like a baby. And he's got, as we said the other night, the baby headphones on. And I just want to tell you this. My favorite anecdote about Connor, and he is so Adrian had Connor really young like, but she was the first one to have a baby in the group of friends. So Connor was like everybody's baby and con. You were great, baby. You had really huge blue eyes.

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And he was just kind of like down for whatever and have those babies.

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So one time my sister's on the phone and she they're talking like they're gossiping, so. Right. They're in it and they're just like that. And Connor is probably three years old. And in the background, my sister can hear every like four to seven minutes she hears Conargo Chee murmur.

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And what's happening is Adrian is gossiping on the phone, not really paying attention. Every time Connor says, Gee Momma, she pulls off like half a slice of American cheese and just hands it to him. But she's not paying attention to how many times he says she amama. And so then one time and she does it multiple times and then one time he just walks up and throws up cheese all over the kitchen. And and Adrian's response is, what are you.

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Hi. It was like a radio play for my sister, and when she read told it to me, we were both like crying, laughing, and it's my favorite story. That's essentially what a podcast is. Yes. It's just you listening to it. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. So I like to say that to Conner now, even though he's like, what are you, 30 or something gross, something disgusting like Badul. They let you in here anyway.

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Cute family anecdotes. If you see tonight, throw up for old time's sake, Cheam. I'll give him some cheese. I don't know. Pick one. I'm not the boss of you. All right. In 2012, a 72 year old man named Samuel Little was charged with three Los Angeles murders dating back to the 1980s.

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So we finally got to where we were going. The crowd at Liverpool were the only one appeal.

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But since then, it's become clear he is the most prolific serial killer in the United States has ever seen, 93 victims, 19 states. Samuel Little has become infamous, but his victims, some of whom remain unidentified, are stuck in the shadows. It's time for that to change.

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My experience in working with some of the victims families is that he was dead wrong. They were missed. They were very loved and their families were hurting.

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The Fall Line presents a special limited series. The victims of Samuel Little will cover both solved and unsolved Southeastern cases and tell you how you can help the victims. Still waiting for justice, featuring rare interrogation tape, FBI interviews and in depth detail. This is a series you won't want to miss. Episodes begin on September 16th from Exactly Right Network. Find us on Stitcher Apple podcast or wherever you listen. This you guys have a lot of murders that we don't want to talk about.

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You know what I mean? This whole weekend has been a canta that murders I fucking hate peewee gasket, stupid motherfucker.

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I hate that guy. Yeah. I mean, I think that's the whole idea, but I'm sure. So it was really hard because like, obviously we want to talk about things and, you know, it's just difficult to be right about many of the topics that the Carolinas bring.

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So, you know, this guy is among the worst. I mean, really unbelievable. Did you see my eyes right up when you said that? Oh, among the worst. But the thing that sucks is there's not that much like information about him. So it's basically just the really shitty crimes of Marcus Schrader.

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Well.

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Yeah. Everyone be quiet. So this all happens in nineteen seventy four. No laughing back there. Yeah. Really up here. Fuck you. The balcony. She turned on y'all real quick. What I don't realize is there's four of them just like keeps going up like you know which one they're talking about. OK, this is all happening in nineteen seventy four. Put yourself there. The doors now then. So August 2nd, Marcus Schrader at the time, he is a thirty three year old stepfather of five and he's a Marine that is based at Camp Lejeune in Jacksonville.

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I'm sure I could have pronounced it better. Let's move on. You're getting thumbs up. OK, great. All right. It all feels bad. Just so you know, it all feels bad. Every city name, every local thing is a horror to say out loud, OK, so my guess is it's August 16th and Marcus is driving around with his stepdaughter, Deborah. Deborah Ann Brown is her name. And they drive by the post office parking lot and they see a woman named Cheryl Boyd getting into her car.

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And was that a baby?

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There's totally a baby, there's a fuckin full on real baby Connor, Connor, you. Don't cry, Connor, someone give him cheese who has American cheese, who carries American cheese slices in the summer. OK, so so Margo Shrader basically tells Deborah I want to rob a bank and he pulls into the post office parking lot and they pull up in the car next to Deborah's car and he gets out and he gets into the passenger side. As she gets into her side of her car, he pulls a forty five and gets into the passenger side and tells her, stay calm, you're going to be all right.

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You're not going to get hurt. You and I are going to rob a bank. He then directs her to drive to a different parking lot. What's that? What does she do? We know she is a nine.

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She's 19. OK, so they he directs Deborah follows them in the second car. He directs her to drive to this parking lot. And then Deborah gets out of the second car and brings like essentially a duffel bag over and he starts unpacking a bunch of shit from this duffel bag and he unpacks a blue jacket with red and white stripes. No, sorry, red and yellow stripes. They were going to yell, yeah, when you check Wikipedia later, I don't want you to be mad before this gets bad, because I know it's going to.

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I just want to say that if my stepdad, when I was like a teenager was like, we're going to rob a bank, I'd be like, fuck you.

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Like as a teenager. Like, that's going to be fun. Yeah, not like I don't want to hurt anyone. Yeah, but it is something to do in an afternoon and it's like kind of not much to do in town 70s. You get also maybe that's the kind of stepdad that won't let you smoke behind the house or be cool about buying your Jack Daniels before the big dance. Right.

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So out of this bag, he pulls that jacket, he pulls a pillowcase, he pulls some brown gloves and he pulls a green ski mask. And this is when Cheryl knows she's in trouble because around town for the past seven months, there have been wanted signs up of a bank robber who in January of the same year had picked up a woman and made her rob a bank with him. And he was wearing a green ski mask. And then after that bank robbery, he shot her in the head and left her for dead.

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And they had not solved the case. And, of course, there was wanted posters all over everywhere. Oh, holy shit. Yes, I'm glad I saw that stuff earlier, because now's not the time. When is when is the time? Why have we ever cared about the time? Wow. Yeah. So, uh, so basically he tells Deborah, wait here in this parking lot, in this car and then he makes Cheryl drive to the bank with him.

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Sorry that the woman's name that he killed in January was named Ginger Rader. She was twenty three years old.

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So that was an unsolved to that point. So at one thirty PM, Marcus Rader walks into the North Carolina National Bank with Cheryl Jinto. She's obviously scared shitless. He tells the three bank tellers, put the money in this pillowcase, they comply, but they give him some of what they call bait money, like marked bills. So it's serial numbers that the bank knows these are from us. And they also activate because it's nineteen seventy four and there's, I guess, no video yet or whatever.

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So they activate cameras in the bank. Oh no, I bet they're video cameras in my mind. When I read that line up until this very moment, I would just like to just I work in television. There was video before nineteen seventy. What am I fucking told. What about what can we just imagine for a minute that they're Polaroids and they just start spitting out photos and he's like, I can just take these. Not this one, not this one.

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Please, please do not turn on like a giant. That's our conversation. Every picture takes of us. Before we go, I'm going to put filters on it and then I go and put filters. I'm going to go, how's this? See how different it is? Because I don't do Instagram. I'm not in any of that. So every time we take a picture, I'm like, no, no, no. And she's like, no, no, no, watch this.

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Don't forget about the filters. And then it's a Maemi photo by Stephen. Basically, I have a mustache. She has whiskers. It's perfect. That's all we want to do. OK, so they take pictures of him. I can't. What's wrong with me? Like one little fucking this. Let's like the. That's the quintessence of man. Just boil it down to one little thing where I'm like, really? I thought it was a different thing.

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All right. Well, I just told a whole bunch of people it was something else. So anyway, video wasn't invented in nineteen eighty six when I first thought of it. I create the world with my mind and.

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All right, so.

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So they have pictures of him again. And in the grand scheme, as they take the money he takes the money they run out of the bank, get into Cheryl's car, he makes her drive away. They go they drive back to the parking lot where Deborah is waiting and Trader tells her to follow them again. And then he makes Cheryl drive to an alley behind the AP store in Jacksonville and both cars stop next to each other. And she Sherrell throws the car keys out of the car and he gets out, throws his gloves into the car where Deborah is, turns around and shoots Cheryl in the head.

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And then he gets into the car with Deborah and they drive away and he has Deborah drive him to a third fucking car in a different parking lot. He has his van waiting. What the fuck? He gets into the van. Deborah drives off and he changes back into his military uniform and goes back to the base. Wow. Yeah, pretty fucking dark. So in late August, so same month, but like a couple of weeks later, the police get this lucky break.

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So they have these wanted signs up everywhere. And the only thing you can see, because obviously he's got the ski mask on, but he is very he's a very friendly face. And around the eyeholes, you can very definitively see that he has freckles right there. So a Marine corpsman who was walking by the building because the like police station and where the military police, they were the buildings were near each other. And so this Marine is walking by and he looks at the wanted poster and he notices that detail.

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And he had just had dinner with Marcus Schrader like a week before. So he goes and he goes, I know who that is. It's Marcus Schrader. And so just from that, just from the freckles. And you'll see I have a picture of and then you'll see.

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So the cops will say that for the end the because it gets so dark and it's so gross, the cops go and raid Marcus Schrader's house and like like in a couple hours they just immediately assemble and go. They find in his freezer. They find the cash from the robbery freezer, huh.

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Yeah, it's stupid. But then they go into the attic and. Right. That's where the bad things happen up in the attic. You know, he has a torture chamber. That's how it was described by seasoned cops on the scene, I couldn't find anywhere where they describe what was in that attic. So, you know, it was bad because it never got out in any way. I was looking up like actual this is something I don't do, looking up like the court record and trying to find it what people said in the court trial.

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Yeah. And there's nothing in there except for they said there's chains on the walls and there was sexual sadistic sexual paraphernalia. And basically come to find that Marcus had been molesting and raping all five of his stepchildren, including Debra, who he who he essentially coerced to do these crimes with and who when later on they were on trial. She was pregnant with his child and she was 16 years old at the time. I never heard of them. I've never heard of this either.

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I know. It's it's like they were like the cops. Everyone's like, let's never talk about this again. Yeah, but I mean, it honestly seems like what it's like they were just kind of like people don't need to know the details of this. So disgusting. After his arrest, his wife fucking books it out of town. What the other four kids, of course, the only family she has left is his aunt who lived up north.

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Just thank God she had somewhere to go. So she went up there. Deborah is is arrested and she's charged. Well, because she is she was aiding and abetting. Essentially, she ends up in court testifying against Schrader and saying that he had been molesting her and raping her since she was 12 and that he beat her with chains, with fists, with a gun and and raped her with bottles sometimes.

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And at the trial, he so he's charged. He's sentenced. Oh, sorry. She's sentenced to 15 years for her involvement with the crimes, but feels a little. What's her name? Patty Hearst. Yes. Thank you.

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So, yeah, the thing is, I think these days, the 70s, where I think people are just like really horrible things happened. You were involved the end and there was there was not a lot of, you know, victim empathy or anything. There wasn't a lot of like, let's look into this. It's like this whole let's just get rid of this whole family, I feel like is probably what the mentality was. She served seven years.

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A relative took that baby when she had it. The prosecution fought for the case to stay in the county and the state because they didn't want to move it, even though it got a lot of press, because they didn't want him to be eligible for parole at any point.

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And so he's tried. He's found guilty of kidnapping and murder. And then at the fucking trial, Deborah Ann Brown testifies. And when she testifies, she tells another story of an unsolved case that the police don't know about and don't know is connected. And that is that one day they were driving around again by that fucking post office parking lot, same place. And she sees they see two girls from that.

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She goes to high school with a 15 year old, Karen Amabile, and a 15 year old Cindy Howard. They're mailing something at the post office. He gets Debra to go get them to offer them a ride home. They say yes. And he's and she says, you can go get into that van. And of course, he's laying in wait, rapes them, shoots them and then dumps them in in the Bear Creek area and those four unsolved cases until this trial.

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And then she basically was like, guess what else? Girl Yeah. So the district attorney at the time, Bill Anders, said he's the most dangerous man I ever prosecuted.

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And after he went to jail, he got he got the death sentence and then the wait because the Supreme Court ruled the death penalty was unconstitutional in nineteen seventy six. So then he got life in prison and then he was up for parole in nineteen eighty six denied. Oh no sorry. It never went to the board. It was like it basically everyone looked, the paper came and they were like, well just put that right over there shredder over here.

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The matches away from the Polaroid camera up on the wall in twenty five he had his first parole hearing denied and that's when Bill Andrews said he worked hard every year to make sure he did not get out of prison. So Marcus Schrader. Yeah, for real. I mean, you know, a lot of people worked on this case, but he died in prison of natural causes because he was only thirty three when he committed all these horrible crime. On July 10th, two thousand seven, and he was sixty five years old at the time, and how did the folks in eastern North Carolina react in the days after Schrader's death?

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A sign at a furniture store in Jackson in Jacksonville read Burn in Hell, Marcus Shrader. Oh. Oh, here you are. And that's the horrible story of Marcus Shrader when. That's crazy. The job is not none. Yeah, good job chuckle But thank you so much for stopping thing. And the ultimate cop, you know. All right.

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Well, this one was like the safest one I could do, and it feels appropriate. And let's just get into your fuckin black widow, Blanche Taylor Moore.

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Shit, this chick is problematic to the max, everyone loves a black widow. Ready for this? Yes, I am. And yes, I'm going to tell you who played whom in the nineteen ninety three Black Widow murders, the Blanche Taylor Moore story. Yes. Don't worry, I've got you. So there's like insane chicken scratch all over this because right before when I was getting ready and putting my makeup on, I listen to a case final episode about this and I don't know where the fuck that guy finds.

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His info is very good.

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It's unbelievable. He gets more info all the way over in Australia than I get in the in the town. So so this chick, Blanche Taylor Moore, she was born in Concord, North Carolina.

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They're there, she's the fifth of seven kids, they're pretty poor family, the father is a self-taught Baptist minister. Sali is positive. So, yes, he can read. He could he he even calls his own style of preaching primitive.

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So it's got to be fun. He's a fundamentalist and everyone's like the fundamentalists are like, this is too much for us even. I mean, we like God and everything, but this is primitive. She's born in February 17th, nineteen thirty three, eight in nineteen forty two at nine years old. They moved it to Tar Hill. Nope.

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They move from Tar Heel to Burlington Coat Factory. Exactly. Yes. Which is where we went shopping before we came here to get all of our coats. Oh that's cold. So. So he, her father is a super fucking strict. He forces, he isn't a womanizing, he's an alcoholic. He just loves to gamble. And the preacher. The preacher. OK, so that's how you know, he's self-taught. Yeah. Just like that's what I read and write.

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It's fine. Don't worry about it. So. So she says later in her life that since she was around nine years old, he started to to use her to pay his gambling debts by giving her to the men, the older man. It's really fucking terrible. And she found solace in church, though she thinks her mom knew what was going on. But look the other way and she just kind of maybe explains her deep disdain for men in her later life.

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She could yeah. She thought men were worthless. She never learned boundaries with them. And she just kind of had some weird shit going on, like she would go from quoting scriptures to then starting to talk about sexually explicit topics in the same conversation.

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Well, I mean, that was the combo for her. It sure sounds like. Right. Like so those things kind of got over. Yes. And so who is she played by? So I'll tell you who she's played by as a grown up. She's played by Elizabeth Montgomery. Oh B which style. I guess she was beautiful. She was an attractive woman. So she was sorry. What year was that TV movie. Ninety three. Wow.

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OK, yeah. So she, she escapes from home by getting married at nineteen and so in nineteen fifty two she marries a man named James Taylor.

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Nah they say yeah. No I know. Are you sure. I hope so. His middle name was Napoleon. I think the most interesting thing about him, he's twenty four years old, he's a veteran and a furniture store. He, they, he had a short fuse though I think kind of like her dad. She was, you know, drawn. The men were fucking dicks. They have two children. But the marriage is bad because he's an asshole.

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And he rightly suspects, Blanche, of having unfair affairs. She's just like after that dick like down like, OK, honey. Yeah.

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In nineteen fifty four Kröger, I just come to town in Greensboro.

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So she gets a job for Kroger or Greensboro. And we don't have we don't have it right now. It's kind of like the grocery store chain is like a new thing there, too, where it's like it's really friendly and nice, but with like, you know. But it's like a grocery. Yes. It's like a big town. Yet it was super. I just got why they called it that. So we're learning so much tonight. So much fun.

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So he she let's see, by nineteen fifty nine she's been promoted to head cashier, which is kind of like assistant manager, which is the highest job available to women in Kroger at that time. Only now I don't like Kroger because she's really friendly, she's outgoing. Everyone likes her, they like get in her line when they're getting checked out just to fuck and talk with her. OK, so sorry. Can I just say what I think she always the picture I am getting in my head now is the hair is tall and there's always gum in her mouth like always a cigarette at that time.

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Oh my God. Gum on one side and cigarette on the other. Wirginia slim girl. Let's look at it. Here's a photo of her and James Taylor in there. I think they're tall, Bewitched and James Taylor. Yeah.

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Oh, now we're too close. I have to bend one of their children, if you will. Sheila. Sheila. Yeah, she's cute, she's pretty, she's outgoing, she's really what? What's that baby's name? I didn't write it down because I.

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I thought you guys knew this, sir. I know I did, too. Well, it's obviously it's Ginnette, you idiot. But this is Steven is amazing. I don't even ever look at what it says there.

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He sends us, like, slides, like, to get OK by 3:00 p.m. the day. And we're like, yeah, great. Add this one. That one, take that one out and say, oh, this is Blanche Taylor Moore with her husband James and daughter Vanessa. Vanessa in Steven, you're so good at your job. Hired, you're hired. OK, oops. OK, so she let's get up and walk around for every picture done.

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She's super well as I said, she's a churchgoing mother. Everyone's like great. But as I said, she likes that. And so who doesn't. I mean she it's fun. She fucks around with coworkers, she fucks around with some customers. She's just like everybody wants to get in her line. That's right. That's right, that's right. Yes, something about getting checked out, checking. It's not that great. A price check, right.

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Price check on this, right. It's easy, it's funny, it's fun. But it's not like she was happy at home because Mr. James Taylor was, as I said, an asshole. He was as explosive one time, like he dragged her down the street with her coat in the cot in the car. And I don't think her body was in the car, but her body is in the car like he sucked, you know? So she was like.

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She didn't do that to Carly Simon, though, did he? I don't think so. Just her walked into a Kroger like it was walking on. No, that's not him.

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That's her. Oh, nice. Really good. You got to go with it. Thank you. Got it. OK, so in nineteen sixty two blame starts fucking around with a married store manager where she works. His name is Raymond Reed. He's played by John M. Jackson. No, me neither. No he's he's good though. He's younger than her. He's twenty seven. He's married with two kids, but eventually they start fucking around. He kind of falls hard for her, it seems.

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James Taylor and Blanche, I know it's great, but I just can't get his face or voice out of my mind or just like James Taylor was incredibly violent or like how he put his guitar down really hard. Like what? How they were married for over twenty years.

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When James starts getting sick out of nowhere, he vomit, you know, and it's just he's got a cold and everything is fine now. It's fine. No, he starts vomiting. He's got the fucking diarrhea situation. He he's got crazy cramping and so much agony. And see, he's seeing rain. No, I'm happy for that, that's bad. Don't care for that, do it. That's very bad, but it makes sense. And, you know, it was good.

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It was good. Blanches, of course, take care. Taking him at his bedside when he is in the hospital, feeding him and everything, but he just gets sicker. And forty five years old, James Taylor dies.

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Oh, so blanches fucking dad. Remember him? He sucked. Oh. She also saying he was he molested her too, which is like not hard to believe if he is like putting her off to, you know. Yes. He it turns out that he had had a second family as these monsters like to do, and like a secret sex family, which like when she was younger, he had later dated them for this other family. So she had, like, cut all contact with him and then a little later.

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So a couple of years before James got sick, she had started she had reconciled, reconciled, yet reconciled with him.

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But it was good that they became friends again last minute because he immediately started getting sick, too. Oh, no. Yeah, you're right. In time. Yeah, right on time. Just so she slipped right in at the last minute. That's right. OK, so she took care, took him and, you know, found him and everything and but he, he eventually died too. And both James Taylor and her father were there cause of death was thought to be heart attack.

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OK, it's not hard not having a heart attack. And they would right before they would die, they turned blue, which is crazy, right?

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You think? Oh, I don't know.

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OK, and then ba ba ba ba ba ba. OK, so this dude, Robert Hutton. All right, this guy is the Kroger's regional manager for the Piedmont Triad area.

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She's going back. Yes. Said the triad is unbelievable. That area. God, what an area you got. You got the one area, the secondary three all together and all when you combine them as a triad, as an area, it's fucking nuts over there. I just like that she keeps it all in-house. Kroger Oh, yeah. She's just like she's brand name only Tracy and Krugersdorp. You have to admit the grocery stores are sexy. Well, probably not back then.

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No one is like brand new. Yeah, like those. Remember those open freezers. Yeah. You just like you put your whole upper body into. You guys are children. They used to be like that. It was way back in the day. So this dude, Robert Hutton, as I said, Kroger's regional manager for the Piedmont Triad area, he's played by Guy Boyd. No, this movie doesn't have star power. Well, maybe they got a lot of people from the theater.

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Oh, perhaps like Elizabeth Montgomery. So he's known as a fucking sexually harassing creep. And all the women who work for Kroger in the Triad area are like, fuck this dude. He won't leave us alone. Everyone fucking hates him. She said one time he put his hand up her skirt and all the women would say that worked. There were like, he gets you alone in a small room and takes his pants off. Whoa. This is like this is like some straight up nineteen seventies.

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This is like regular. This is always all the time. Yes. They're like no it's sealed, it's pants off break. You can have a smoke break, you can have a lunch break or you can meet me in the back off break. So Blam starts flirting with him and eventually gets him to do the pants off break. She's like I'm not scared of those fucking pants. Yeah, I do pants off break around here. She gets him to do it.

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OK, now here's where it's going to be hard later because you're going to love her right now. I promise you. She grabs his fucking pants and runs out of the fucking.

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Yeah, oh, people are like, look out like a fuckin runs out of the store, never comes back, you have to tie a fucking butcher apron together. Did.

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OK, and also it's the sorry, it's the late 60s. 70S. Yeah. Or so because it's only women in that grocery store, right. That's right. Women. There's no men. Yeah, that's right. Grocery shopping, man. That's right. And then they're like applauding her. Oh can you imagine the slowmo like running like come on down and what's the. Yes. And then. And then. A new. These are as gross Hanes underwear.

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OK, we have to stop loving her now. Yes, OK, so she smiles, a sexual harassment lawsuit against him and Kröger. Yeah, it's groundbreaking. Oh, this is in October nineteen eighty five. So it's pretty. So but here's the problem with that. So she's been fucking around with her co-worker. Remember him. Raymond Reid for a long time. They've been like dating the guy, the young guy who's married. But it's like she's fucking around and he's fucking around like everyone's fucking around.

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It's the eighties but they've been dating and together for a while. He helps her out financially sometimes. And so they have to maintain their secret relationship because she had said as part of her lawsuit was that she was, quote, completely alienated and antagonistic towards men and had not been able to maintain any meaningful social contacts with the opposite sex because of the harassment. So she's just like, this is on the DL. Everyone zip it in. The sexual harassment lawsuit was filed for fifteen million dollars.

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Oh shit.

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She was just like it is happening. So let's do this Kröger. So the the regional manager cargo's regional manager for the tri month, the Piedmont Triad area, the triad blunderer. Yes, he's forced to resign and lose his pension. And Kroger eventually settles two years later out of court for two hundred seventy five thousand dollars, which in today's market is about six hundred thousand dollars. OK, great. Not the worst. Then another weird thing, then another.

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Then there's another, like, weird thing. When her fuckin mobile home or her mobile home catches on fire and when the and burns down and when the cops go to check it out, they faint. They were like, that's arson. And she was like, OK, well, here's the thing. This fucking perverts been following me and he lit it on fire and insurance. We're like, OK, here you go and give her money. Then she did it a second time.

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We're new fucking home on fire. OK, shortly after she moved in there and she was like that fucking parrot again. He is just so resilient, that pervert. Yeah. So she's got some some of those issues going on. All right. So she's kind of scamming insurance. She's like she's doing it. She yeah. She's getting hers. She's getting hers any way she can. She's kind of like over church at this point after all this shit happens.

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But her friend makes her go with her on Easter Sunday to church. I don't know the name of two church, almost a temple. So at least I got that right. And she goes and meets the reverend at this church. He's a recently divorced, good looking dude.

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So it's not Catholic. And just we can do this. We can. Yeah, figure it out slowly but surely. He's played by David Cleanin. No, never in my life have you not gotten breaking my heart. I'm sorry I start lying. David Cleanin from Masche. We go with the bash because I know no one here watched it really like it was on in the background. I know you will watch it. You're very smart, OK? It really was the height of intellectual ism.

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If you're watching MASH. Hey, look what I have written here. He was a divorced pastor of the Carolina United Church of Christ in rural Alamance County between Durham and Greensboro News.

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You're in athlete.

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What you are talking about Temple Beth Israel. He so he had gotten kicked out of his old fucking, you know, Pastor Place Church. Thank you. Yeah. Because he had been having a 16 year affair with one of his parishioners.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Parishioners. I thought you pointed like that and I was like, please don't tell me a child. No. Like was on his pulpit when I see. Yeah. He's way up. He's up there sitting down there, you know, like I got. Right. So they meet and they're both like attract, you know, attractive, older than their fifties, let's say, and and they're into each other. But he's obsessed with her, it seems like.

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And she's still, you know, dating Reid. And so he just kind of starts nudging her.

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That's a date. But she's like, I'm not into this. But they start dating secretly eventually. He seems like a nice dude.

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I don't know. He seems like a nice priest. Yeah.

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And it's at this point that Blanche starts to get sick of her boyfriend, Richard Reid, and it doesn't know how to break up with people, apparently, and so on. He starts getting sick. How did you know that? I don't know.

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Um, let's see here.

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Yeah. So so she starts getting sick of him and he's pressuring her to marry him at this point. Reid just don't do that to Blanche and. No, no, no, no. And so and she had started this new relationship behind his back, which was like getting serious, which he suspected. So now he starts getting sick, as you said, developing what initially is diagnosed as a case of shingles, which is really painful rashes. And you've seen the commercials.

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Yeah. You know, the virus is already inside of you. That is really bad news. Sorry, everybody. Apparently, it's like insanely fucking painful and horrible. No, it's really bad. Yeah, that's it sucks. So he's hospitalized, OK? It feels fucking horrible for him. So his rashes are so bad that one gets infected in his genitalia area. He has to get circumcised to get rid of it. That sucks, right? This poor fucking did.

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It didn't it doesn't work. He's the rash just keep happening. And they do test him for arsenic at the hospital, though, and it turns out positive. Oh, but the test got fucking lost. Yeah, but don't worry, Blanches. My husband's not taking care of him. She's feeding him his favorite things. Banana pudding and peanut butter milkshakes. Just so hard to slip anything in as everyone knows, as anyone with a dog knows.

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Yeah. All right. And it made him so happy that she was caring for him because she could he could tell that she wasn't as interested anymore. And now she's here taking care of him. Oh, no, that's the saddest. Yeah, but he dies on October 7th. Nineteen eighty six. Eighty six. No, the eighty six of October, you know, and the doctor said that the cause of death is Gillion Barr syndrome, which is a rare disorder which your body's in, which your body's immune system attacks your nerves.

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So like fuck shingles or that they both sound fucking terrible and they were neither and they were never the worst. One of all your girlfriend did it, your girlfriends, your shingles already inside of you. That's right, and she'll help you, I'll for o checkout stand for Damit, no, that wouldn't have been funny. Anyways, back. Don't do that. You're right. OK, so then finally, Blanche is free to publicly see Reverend Moore and they start going public after his death.

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They get married in November nineteen eighty eight and they go to the most romantic place for honeymoons, Niagara Falls.

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No, but like sarcastically I was being sarcastic.

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Do you love it there? I've never been. I want to go home after watching them. This is not a spoiler. This last the last part of the center, I was like, this is it really like that? They're like, yeah, it's crazy. I'm like, we should go. God falls like they're going to Niagara.

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They can, I guess again. Yes. Paris, you were close. No, no, no. Sarcastic. Oh, sarcastic. Las Vegas. No, it's again sarcastic. There's a lot of bad places in the world. New Jersey. There's no in. I was going to say Sarasota Springs. All right. They go to New Jersey to visit. What I don't know. OK. To his his his son lives there. They just he just had his first grandson, so they go or kid.

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So they go there to honeymoon, you know. You do. Yeah. And they you know, they have to cut their trip short because he gets sick on days after they're married. He gets violently sick and they go home. He gets the New Jersey flu. That's right. And they end up going to several hospitals and doctors are trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with him. And his condition just keeps deteriorating. It's threatening multiple organ failure and death and blanches like they're like, what could it be?

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I don't know. You know, I know that we were in the garden working with and there was a herbicide there. So maybe that's that maybe it's that that I put in his better shape and that is her fucking if she hadn't mentioned that, she might have gotten away with another one. Really, because her saying that it could be poison and hoping they'll just brush it off. That must be what it is, is the thing that triggered them because doctors ordered a toxicology screen to check for the put that poison specifically like him.

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Maybe he accidentally put in a sandwich or something. You know, as you do, you know, gardiners fucking around there. The results reveal more are more arsenic than they had ever seen in a living person 20 times the normal amount. It's the most arsenic ever consumed by someone who doesn't die from it. So he survives, although that's the I survive. I want to see. Jesus Christ, so this dude is built from his genes, like get in, get in there, get in, then get inside of those jeans and run out of the grocery store.

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It's already inside of you. That's what you want. Good. We're doing it. We're really happening. And then they're like, he still doesn't suspect his wife. And they're like, hey, do you know anyone else who's died of like a weird disease, like a weird sickness or something like that? Maybe you caught it or whatever. And he like, oh, my my wife's ex died of Anbar syndrome. And then they're like, oh, shit.

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Like, let's check out this chick. And they also discovered that Blanchot attempted to change Reverend Moore's pension in order to make herself the primary beneficiary. She'd also become the primary beneficiary of fucking Reed's bullshit before he died. Sure, he couldn't he couldn't say, I want her to be a primary beneficiary because he couldn't speak at that point. So he just nodded at the lawyer when he lost. And she was like, I just brought the lawyer to visit you because I thought it would be so nice.

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Would you look at this paperwork really quick? But he fucking loved her so much that he at that point didn't even think about it. She was like small talk with her, like, I mean, was she the most magnetic person of all time? I think that I think it's the women didn't like her and she was magnetic and flirtatious with men, you know, and they were like obsessed with her. And her pussy was lined with gold. Because, I mean, what could it be what what else could it be?

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I'm just asking and you can think about it in your seats, but. How do you do it? It a dating hard enough. She's just laying left and right. Oh, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So we will not make her an anti-hero. We will not do that. She's not. She's not. She also at that point, she's like, oh, shit, they're enemies.

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So she cuts Reverend Moore's hair off to try to make it so they can't test his hair for poison. And then they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to grab some pubes from this poor guy.

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I just love their ego that she thinks she can do this shit in front of doctors and no one's going to be it'll be like, oh, you gave him a loving final haircut. Don't do that at all is if they go, oh, he doesn't have any hair.

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I guess we hadn't asked him for poison. Oh, well, yeah. And so much to do the other way. And dang it, our other way machine's not working today so I guess I can't do it. I'm sure it's called something but I don't know what testing machine. The testing machine. Got to be it. That's it. OK, so as I said, Robert Moore survives by the grace of the guy up there that you guys are into.

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During the during police interviews, Blanchard states that both Reverend Moore and her ex, her her boyfriend at the time, who said, Reed, they were depressed at the time. So maybe they probably took the poison themselves. Yes, that's probably themselves 20 times the amount they would need. I'd gladly give. I just got married five days ago, but I'm really depressed in the light of these revelations. Of course, the bodies are exhumed, including her first husband, James Taylor, her long time boyfriend, Raymond read her blanches father.

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Her name is Parker Kizer, the ex and James Taylor's mother, who had died before James Taylor had died. Her name's Isla Taylor. And so her mother in law, who she had fed through her sickness before she died to no way ding. So autopsy show that elevated levels of arsenic were in all three, all four bodies. But the bodies but Reid and Taylor were the most were actually fatal, you know, amounts, dosages, doses. So they're they classify their deaths as arsenic poisoning.

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Um, let's see. They they they they said that more than thirty people arose as possible. Arsenic victims of Blanche fucking Taylor Moore. Whoa. Thirty. But, you know, those can't be confirmed. It's just these four that they actually took out. But like, they start looking at everyone who ever died, who went to the Kroger, you know what I mean? So I was like, did he have shingles? Right. And I think everyone was like, look at me.

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Look, you need to look at my dead person. Like, I think she did it. She came over once for lunch or something like, well, I mean, but if that person is like this, you know, hiding in plain sight. Yeah, she did go to she did Tupperware parties to it's like some people probably look back and like I got really sick after I hung out with her that one time. Yeah, sure. Also.

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Or even if they didn't, you just like how it would be where you're just like, I want you investigate my whole life. This is just so freaky. It's so creepy. OK, so in the aftermath of that, it was also found that the doctors at the Baptist Hospital where Raymond Reed was admitted in eighty six, remember that they had lost his fucking toxicology report. Yes. What happened was the resident responding for carrying resident responsible for caring had rotated to another hospital and the new resident never passed the results up the chain of command.

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So it just didn't get there. So it kind of stopped at that point. I honestly thought you were going to say that she came in and fucked that resident and then could I see your files really quick? I just want to look at your files. What are you writing the paper up, ma'am. But so but his ex, Raymond Reed's ex-wife, and his son did Sue Baptist Hospital for malpractice because and if they could do so, because Blanche had had primary care of him.

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And so I don't know. So they think that she tampered with it? Maybe. Yeah. So she's arrested in nineteen eighty nine, charged with first degree murder in the death of Raymond Reed because they thought that was the one that they could totally prove. And also assault with a deadly weapon for the poisoning of Reverend Moore. The trial goes to Winston-Salem in October.

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Twenty first great trials up there. They really nail it in nineteen ninety blanches. Fifty seven years old at this point. Want to take a again, please?

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Well, that's certainly count one. Look at her promenading to court. She is, you know, a little look at how she did with her prison. I kind of see it. I see what people are seeing in her are those is that prison uniform that she put pearls and a little bunch of shit over on to the side. That looks like nineteen eighty seven to me, that's Kicki. Look at those big earrings. Sure, she's she might as well be going like this.

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She's my child, she's fucking well, they think she was a fucking narcissist. And so. Yeah, I think so. And probably had a little touch of the by proxy. What's a little munch by provolone munch. Sure. Why not. So every day I thank God I don't have a job where I have to wear polyester pants with a belt. Oh it is absolutely so unforgiving and unfair. That lady has a nice waist but Jesus Christ.

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And those are the ones she got when she started the job and they won't give her a new pair. That's right. That's right. So she's just like she's like you motherfucker making it work fine. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, for sure. He gets to wear whatever he wants. So after six hours of deliberation, she's found guilty.

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She's convicted on November 14th. Nineteen ninety. And the judge, she fuckin gets sentenced to to die by lethal injection.

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Oh shit that they're not fucking around. She gets sentenced to die by peanut butter milkshake. Wishes to be. That's great. She doesn't stand trial for the death of her other people and she is still at the North Carolina Correctional Institution for Women. She's alive right now. She's still alive. Jesus Christ. She's eighty five years old and she's the state's oldest death row inmate, the second longest serving and one of the only one of the only two women.

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But you guys are not they won't. The death penalty thing is they don't make it happen. Yeah, because the doctors are like they're like we need a doctor present for putting people to death here. And the doctors are like, hey, we can't be signed a thing that we wouldn't harm. People remember that thing that you want us to do so we can't do that. So it's not really going to happen. She might die of old age beforehand.

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She used to write music but now spends her time writing poetry. You'll be happy to know I am happy to know that she's religious again and she's been able to like religion straight up Satanism. She's been able to avoid execution for over twenty nine years and to this fucking day and all through the trial, she fucking maintains her innocence.

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Yes. And that is your black widow, Blanche Taylor. Wow, you guys.

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That was amazing. Thank you. Oh, that was fun. Hey, let's get peanut butter milkshakes. Hey, hey, you want to go gardening? Do we have time for. Yeah, let's do a little hometown. Merner. Hands down now, get Karen's going to tell you a quick review, I know you probably know all these rules, but basically let's just really think about them and take them in. It's important, you know it. You can't raise your hand if you're, let's say, four beers in and you can't follow your own story.

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It's crucial that you are able to concisely tell your story in an exciting and engaging manner. It can be very overwhelming when you're standing up here. We make it look so very easy. But there's all these fucking balconies and shit and people are staring at you and they hate you because you got paid. Yeah. And you get really in your head and then you start thinking of other things, but you don't know why you're thinking of those things that you're supposed to tell.

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The story will help you through it. Don't worry. But still, you know, handle your shit, make sure it's concise, make sure it's local. And what was the one from the other night? There was a new one is a new one that you picked.

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But, you know, we said that already is this April, everybody, the tour manager. They're coming right off. Oh, there's a staircase over there. Yesterday, Vince had a pretzel waiting for us backstage after the show. That was exciting. Tonight, the words of wisdom are God bless Ric Flair. Wow. Nice. Oh, here. Oh, yeah. I can look back at local work, yeah, he knows. All right, meantime, let's do this.

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I'm still on a roll, right? Do you want to picture? No, no, no. Go, go. Lights up, please. I'm scared. Whoa, whoa. OK, look here. You guys are like in like Amadeus over here in your little box circles with the. Those are all the rich people in these boxes. It's money. Good job. You guys are up above everybody else up. All right. No, thank you.

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Hey, hey, don't worry. It gets worse. Sure. And everyone. Yes, Lexi, Lexi, Lexi, come on over here. Where are you from? I'm from Madison, Wisconsin, but I live in Concord, north of Concord. Awesome. Awesome. What's your hometown? So when you said Marcus, I actually thought you were going to do my hometown a second. It's the murder that Marcus crabbiness committed actually in Michigan, but he lived in North Carolina.

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OK, so my husband went to high school with Marcus crabbiness. He and he always study was like a little bit weird, a little bit off, like one of those people that you don't know if you should really trust their just one of those people. Yeah, obviously we all know of us. So he graduated high school and moved up to Michigan because he said that he couldn't find what he wanted to do in life in North Carolina. So he messaged my husband about a couple of weeks after he moved to Michigan.

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And he was like, hey, I'm thinking of joining the military. I know you're in the military. So what do you think? Do you think I could get in? Do you think it's a great opportunity? And you know what? It's great, but I don't think it's for you. Said, Wow. And he's like, well, I don't know. I think it would be really good. I can hold a gun. You know, this will be great.

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I just can just go overseas and it'll be fun. We'll see what happens. So he never did join the military. In a week after my husband received that message on the news, he got arrested for stabbing his grandfather to death, stabbing his uncle and attempting to also stab his grandmother. So what happened is, is his grandmother, she watched him stab the grandfather. She went into the bathroom, locked herself and called nine one one, said, hey, my grandson has gone completely insane.

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Please come. And by the time that she got out and she recovered, thankfully, from all of her wounds and Marcus crabbiness opens the door for the cops and was like, oh, hey, come into my house. Oh, he's just totally just completely psycho. So he was officially deemed not mentally stable to stand trial. He went into a mental institution a couple of years later, came out, officially stood trial, and now he's in prison.

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Oh, my goodness, that like that hometown, like, grazed you like it like a car that's like scraped your car in the parking lot thickening Aleksi. Yes, that was amazing. That's outside Aleksandre. Right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Great job. Yeah. You get to keep that microphone. That's how it's done. Wow. Our first weekend of our tour, you guys were an amazing.

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It's amazing, you know, the first year that we went on tour and did touring, it was kind of felt like it did feel like a bit of a it felt like it was going to end very soon. It was like everyone's going to be excited and then it'll die down and we won't do that anymore. And it's quite the opposite. Yeah, it's incredible. You know, it's incredible. And we know you guys have had a really rough week or so and we weren't sure we're going to make it.

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But we really appreciate guys taking us and having us. And it's been so great being here and meeting so many awesome people. It's a real honor for having us. Yeah, we've been on our it's you know, you have helped us kick off our fall tour, the fall twenty eighteen tour with three incredible shows like every single shows went amazing. These audiences have been so smart and so funny and so great to be with. And thank you so much for being our friends.

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We really appreciate it.

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We really appreciate it and each other's friends. We fucking love this community. We love being a part of it. So thank you, guys. You guys are amazing. Stay sexy and.