Chasing the drivers are fantastic interviewers is all I can say. Even though I know they're gonna cut this part out now.

Oh, no, it's.

These guys are really the real deal. I love talking to them. And I'll be back.

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Listen, my heart is pumping right now because we have the king of pump, the king, the originator of pumping iron. Our guest today is seven time Mister Olympia, the former governor of California. He has grossed an estimated $4 billion at the box office. You know him from some of your favorite movies like Commando, Predator, True Lies, Kindergarten cop, jingle all the way. It's the goddamn terminator. That's right. We got. Arnold's watching.

Wow. Fire up, baby.

That was fantastic.

That's gotta be, as long as Artie approves.

I cannot believe that's the baby oil. It's supposed to be oiled up and you introduced.

That's right.

That was great. That was really fantastic.

Arnold, I cannot tell you, the moment we found out you were coming on the show, just so much excitement. You were such a huge part of our childhood and what we aspired to be. So to have you on the show, it's like coming full circle for both of us. Thank you for coming on. It's truly an honor.

Well, thank you very much. And I was so excited when I heard. I was invited on this show because there is nothing that I love more than, first of all, talking to great athletes and also great athletes that are branching out and finding another thing to do and finding their other talent. Because it's always great when you're a champion in one thing, right. In athletics, if it's boxing, if it's karate, if it's in football or the tennis or whatever it is, bodybuilding, weightlifting, whatever it may be, but that always ends.

Yes.

Right. And then no matter which, except maybe I don't even know what sport, maybe dancing you can do until later on, ballroom dancing or something like that. But I mean, in most cases it ends. And so you have to think, what is your next move? And you have to create that vision early on because you start moving in that direction then. And so you guys out there now, you started like last year or so. Yes. Podcast, and it's going through the roof. Thank you. I mean, everyone talks about it. It's fantastic. And two brothers, I mean, how great is that?

It's been crazy.

Two brothers work together and really kind of play off each other, and you guys are doing it so well. I've watched some of them and, I mean, you're really talented and you speak well and you're full of energy and you. You ask interesting questions and you say funny things, and it's kind of all kind of mixed up together. No, but this is so cool. So I immediately, when they asked me to come on this show, I said, oh, yeah, I don't even have to think about this because this guy's a talented. And you, I know you have now retired, right?

Yep. Yep.

And so that means you're gonna continue on winning another Super bowl.

Fire me up. I mean, fire me up, Arnie.

What else? What else are you gonna do, right? Another super bowl. That's what it is. As a matter of fact, why not another one after that? So there should be no stopping in sight right now. But you now, you know, and this is maybe off the record, but no one is gonna blabber out there anyway. He's probably here doing some interviews for movie parts.

Oh, yeah.

He definitely needs to do something odd because a lot of times you guys do the show where you are in another place and you were at another place. Right. And it's this split screen thing, which really works well.

Yeah. And.

But now you're together because you're in Hollywood.

That's right.

So there is a reason. I'm not stupid, right. There's a reason why those guys are out here together in Hollywood. I mean, and, you know, there's all kinds of interviews being scheduled. I know, for movie parts for blowing heroes.

You got any parts for us?

No, but you guys have it lined up. You just don't want to give it away right now. Okay. I know the way this.

How do you pick the movie parts? Because the breadth of action to a movie like twins with Danny DeVito, how did, you know, always depict the movie that was just gonna kill it. Like, what was that process?

Well, you know, to be very honest, I was not able to pick it all the time because I've had movies that went through the roof, like, you know, twins or kindergarten copies, Conan and Terminator in those films. But there were other movies like Hercules in New York. I mean, they went in the toilet. I mean, went straight in the toilet. There was movies that are made like that, that made no money and the toilet. So you cannot always win. There's no such thing. And this is why, you know, I always talk also about the losses, because you got to acknowledge, because we learn not only from victories, but we learn a lot from our losses.

Yeah.

And, you know, when you're down, how do you get back up again? And how do you get to the next and be. Have a victorious kind of a movie? But I was very happy that overall, I've chosen some really good movies and that I was able, like you said, you know, when you were pumping me up and you guys were disputing between the rock and Arnold. Right.

There's no dispute here.

No, but there's a dispute because he was partially right, because the rock is stronger now than I am. He has more muscles than I have right now. His movies are doing really well, so there's nothing to be taken away from the rock. But the fact is, the matter is.

My tail was between my legs as you walk.

I'm very happy with the overall kind of inventory of what I've created in show business. And I think this is the important thing, is to be able to go and do kind of like a movie like Conan the Barbarian, where you expose yourself and your body is out there, and then you do a science fiction movie like, you know, terminators, and then you're number one in that. Then you go to do something like a comedy like twins, and then you're number one. And that in the box office, just check it out. Almost $300 million. So this is a really great, great victories. Or then to go, like, for instance, with Netflix, to do Fuba, to go for the first time in the tv series, and then that being number one. So there was. So I celebrate a lot of great, great victories, I have to say, with some defeats. No two ways about that. If it's in bodybuilding, I had my victories. In weightlifting, I had my victories, but I also had my defeats in bodybuilding and weightlifting and powerlifting and all those kind of things. And in movies. So it's a beard and in personal life.

So, I mean, so, you know, you, you go through that and you have your ups and downs.

Yeah, absolutely.

You never put yourself in a box, though. That's what I always admired. You were never, like, nervous or seemed scared to, like, jump into a new world, something that you weren't known for. And I think that is the, the biggest thing that I took out of, like, just your overall professionalism in all sports, entertainment, politics, is that you always found a way to relate to people and show people that you could do it well.

Yeah.

You know, I was. I love challenges.

Yeah.

And I think that you guys, too.

Yes.

I think I love the hardest challenges. It's like, it really, really challenging. And so I love challenges. I love when someone says, oh, this is really risky, I know, to do twins because, you know, I, the people love to see an action movies, but I don't know if they will go for it that you're in a comedy.

Yeah.

And of course, they say, okay, so don't pay me. I said, don't pay me. Just make me be part owner of the film.

Who had the last.

Just like you take the risk. And sure enough, I made more money on that movie like in any other movie.

Oh, yeah, bet on yourself.

Exactly. So that's what I did. But, I mean, it worked. One of the things that I talk about in my book, be useful, is don't listen to the naysayers. I mean, how many times have you said, it's impossible? You're not gonna do that. Right. We heard this our whole life. And so I remember when I ran for governor, they said, arnold, they're gonna eat your life. I mean, this is so dangerous to do that. I mean, you're gonna throw out your movie in a career, and you're going to go in there and they're going to belittle you, and the press is going to be all over, especially you're a Republican and running in a state like California, that's a liberal state, and it's going to be horrible. And I said to myself, hey, I see myself as the governor of California. I know that I can do better than those idiots up in Sacramento. Then I know for sure. I said to myself, so I'm going to go and jump in there. I'm going to announce it on the Tonight show. Not the official kind of announcements like they make with the american flag in the background.

I did it on a tonight show. Just throw everything off a little bit, right? Yeah, I went on there and announced it, and from that point on, two months later, I was governor of the state of California. So, I mean, so you cannot worry about those things. You got to go all out. It's now or never. I mean, so I always go all out, and I tried different things, like this book. I mean, I'm. I never saw myself as a motivational speaker or someone that writes motivational books or self help books and all that stuff, but I've been asked, I said, you know, I don't want to do this book because we have heard your speeches. And I said myself, yeah, I think that this could be number one. What I have to say. And when it came out, I mean, for six months, it has been on a bestseller list. I mean, think about that. For six months. So everything is kind of. I go for number one. That's what I do, you know, like with the commercial. I mean, think about it. We did the Super bowl commercial. Yeah, right. Number one. Bang.

It was number one. USA Today had that survey. Number one commercial. So I love those things, even though this is not the business I'm in to do commercials. But, I mean, Joe Namath.

Joe Namath.

You remember Joe names?

Absolutely.

From way back. So when I came to this country, I was so jealous of him.

Why is that?

Well, because in bodybuilding, I had to go and do bricklaying jobs. I made no money in bodybuilding. There was nothing. There were no sponsorships or anything. And Joe Namath was on television, this great football player, and he was on television, and I'm watching tv, and I'm seeing him advertising and endorsing Penny Hose. And I said, are you fucking kidding me? This fucking guy is the number one football player that everyone watches in America is. Everyone is watching football and baseball, and I'm in a sport that no one watches. And this is like a subculture kind of a thing.

You hear that Patty Mahomes, pantyhose baby.

And Patty and these guys.

This guy is known.

Next.

This guy is known. Oh, look how handsome he looks. Look how beautiful he looks. And he plays in all the covers of the magazines. All the articles are written about it. And then he does this. Endorsements. And then way back then he gets a million dollars for an endorsement. Way back then. I'm talking about now.

That's a lot of money back then.

So this was huge. So, I mean, it just was amazing. So I said to myself, I got to go and do something to build the sport of bodybuilding, to build it up so it gets unpopular. It would never get to be like football, but to get some popularity. And that was then my mission, when I get out of bodybuilding competition, to go and start promoting bodybuilding competitions and to raise the cash prizes and to get sponsorships involved. And we now have the number one bodybuilding competition, the Arnold classes, in Columbus, Ohio.

That's right.

So cool, man.

I was talking to Arnold before we got on here, but we used to go at the University of Cincinnati, would go up to the Arnold classic one to see all of these amazing competitors, either bodybuilders or strongmen. I mean, all of the weightlifting community goes to this thing. It's the biggest weightlifting convention that I've ever seen.

Oh, yeah.

And we would go up there because all the supplement companies are up there in college, because you don't have a lot of money. You're just trying to get some supplements. So that's kind of how we did every year. We'd make the trip, see some unbelievable people. That's the first time I ever saw Arnold in person. And even from a distance, it felt like I was meeting my childhood hero, to be honest with you. So this is awesome to be here. We do this thing called new news. Okay. It's one of our segments, and you being the one, one of the most iconic line deliverers of all time. Do you mind? Is just look at that camera, if you don't mind, and say new news in your own Arnold way. Is that all right?

Yeah. New news.

Yeah.

We had a feeling it'd be electric. We had a video. Don't turn off when I say new noose.

God, that's good.

Never gets old, baby.

Well, you've certainly been busy. You've published the New York Times number one bestselling book called be seven Tools for Life. Be useful in your Netflix docuseries. You said your father used to say that to you.

That's right. Yeah.

When coming up for the name of the book, like, is work be useful? Has that been the mantra of Arnold in your career, reinventing yourself? Is that why you went with that title?

Well, it never really kind of, like, made that much sense when my. When my father said it, because he always will be critical. You know, I will be working out. And he says, why are you working out? Why are you lifting all these weights? Just so you can look in the mirror and kind of fall in love with yourself or something like this. You can get strong by just being useful. I said, what do you mean? He says, you could chop wood for the neighbor. This is this woman. She's 80 years old. She cannot shove with herself. She cannot shovel the coal when the coal is being delivered for her oven. She cannot do it herself. You can do it, and then it gets stronger at the same time, and you're doing something that is useful. So be useful. So it was always, be useful, be useful, be useful. And so eventually, what happened was that it was the thing that motivated me the most. I heard this voice at 530 in the morning, and I had to get up because I felt like, well, I'm lying around in the bed. I mean, America, for instance, was not built by people lying in bed and sleeping in or something like that.

No, this was made by people that worked hard and they were useful. And so I have to be useful. I have to get out of bed. I have to go and work out. I have to go to school. I have to study. I have to get smart. I have to get better in whatever it is. So this is. So it really was helpful for me eventually because I heard this be useful all the time. And so I said to myself, when I wrote this motivational book, I said to myself, I'm going to call it be useful.

Yeah. What are the seven tools in the book? I'm retired, and I'm kind of.

Jason, that's the point of reading the book.

I'm going to read the book, but I'm going to get to get Cliff notes first. All right. I'm going to figure out the recognition.

I think, that the book basically was written because there's just so many people that like to be successful, but not are not. I mean, when you think about that, 78% of the people in America hate their jobs.

Yeah.

I mean, that's terrible. That's really sad. You know, and the reason why they hate their jobs is because they never really followed the first rule of the book, which is kind of have a clear vision. Where do you want to go in your life? What do you want to do? Whether you're really passionate about. I mean, you guys found out early on that you're passionate about football.

Yeah.

So you went all out, and that was your vision. And now your new vision is to go and make this explode into the podcast, and then they get into movies and do broadcasting for networks or something, whatever it is, whatever direction you go. But you have new visions. And that is the most important thing, because otherwise you would not know where to go if you don't have a clear vision of where you want to go. And so I always compare it to an airplane. You can have the best airplane in the world, but if the pilot does not know where to go, eventually it's going to crash. He's not going to land anywhere. And that's what happens a lot of times to people in their lives. They crash and they're unhappy and they don't accomplish their goals. They don't know what their goals are and all of this. So what I'm talking about here at great length is how do you create this vision and how do you have a vision and how you have to turn off your iPhone and your phones and your computer and iPads and everything, all the machines, turn them off and just start thinking about what is it that you really want to accomplish in life?

What do you want to go? What makes you happy? And so a lot of people don't know because I know, because we have the Schwarzenegger Institute at USC and ask students all the time, I said, what do you want to be? And they are, if things go well here, I said, no, there's too many hours. They say, what do you want to be? And they cannot come up with a clear answer. So a lot of people don't have a vision. So that's why I say the most important thing is to have a clear vision. The other thing, the other rule that I talk about is work your ass off. There's too many people that think that you can do it an easy way, although it's a short cut, although is a magic pill of some sort. No, you got to work your ass off no matter what you do.

Yes.

If you're in the media business, in the movie business, in the acting business, if you're an athlete, you have to work your ass off. So I talk about that at great length, that how important it was for me to learn this very early on in life. When I was in Austria. Yeah. And then when I came over here to America, I was working out 5 hours a day with weights and to win my world championships in bodybuilding. But at the same time, I went to college. At the same time, I worked as a bricklayer hours and hours every day. And at night I went to acting class. So I did all of that. I've literally used higher, 24 hours and only slept 6 hours. And the rest of it, I worked my ass off. So I talk about that there's no shortcut that you have to work your ass off. Here's another one. Don't listen to the naysayers. Yeah, because I said, as we talked about earlier, it is the worst thing you can do because everyone always comes. I remember when I was like 15 years old and I said, I want to be a world champion in bodybuilding.

I want to be like Reg park or Steve Reeves. Those guys on the screen that were doing Hercules movies, I said, I want to look like them. I want to win the titles like they did. And they said, yeah, sure. I mean, maybe you should go and visit the shrink or something again. So it was always, it was always negative, and I just didn't pay much attention to that. I just listened to my own kind of a mind and my own, and looked at my own vision. And I had a very clear vision of being on that stage in London where Reg park and Steve Reeves won the Mister Universe contest. I saw myself on that stage and that's what I was shooting for. So every rep I did, I was getting one step closer to that vision.

Yes.

And I was like, I didn't have the discipline. Because a lot of people think that you have the discipline. No. If you have a clear vision, you don't need the discipline. You just have to go for that vision. And every rep you do, you enjoy it because you know you're getting one step closer. So I was always smiling in the gym, having a great time, because I knew why I was going heck, why I was lifting these weights and doing all this bench press and the chin ups, the sit ups and all of those kind of things, because I knew what my vision was. The same was in the movie business. I knew that when I was finished with bodybuilding, I'm going to get into the movie business. I had a very clear vision to be another rich park or another Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson or any of those guys. And, and there was no way that anyone could talk me out of it.

Yeah.

I mean that even though they said, you know, you have an accent, no one ever became a leading man with an accent. You have a difficult name to ProNounce, and you are too big for the movies. I mean, you know, Woody Allen is the new star in the seventies. Not a big guy like you. It was always, no, no, no. So again, I didn't listen to it. And I, and the reason that I became successful is BecausE I didn't listen to those guys. So those are the kind of rules that I go through in this book to really lay it out for people and to show to them that, you know, pick big gores, not small gores. I said, because small gores is kind of like when you're afraid of failing. I said, then you pick small goals. I say, if you get rid of that fear of failure, that's when you're free. And that's when you can go out and say, I'm going to pick this. Go right up here, and I'm going to go and shoot for the stars. That's what I always did.

I love it. I love it.

Fuck the naysayers.

Exactly.

And be useful.

Be useful. Exactly.

Make sure you go out and grab this book, man. I'm already about to. Gosh, I haven't read it in forever, but I'm about to read this. You talked about working out 5 hours a day, which is a lot longer than I've ever worked out. You've also got a daily newsletter and podcast called Arnold's Pump Club.

Yes.

That's pretty, pretty dope. The positive corner of the Internet. Tell us. Tell us a little bit about the pump club.

Well, you know that the pump club is. It's kind of like a village. It's a community. Yeah. It's where people kind of like help each other. It started out originally.

It's muscle beach.

Yeah, that's, that's right. Online where it's like, kind of the gym. Yeah, it's like, it's like the pump cup is kind of the gym where I go, for instance, to gorge gym. And I work out and you have like a bunch of guys around and there everyone is helping you to count out the reps for you. Then you helping them, you correct the exercise, they come over to you and they say, hey, you can go further down in your squat. And this. So everyone works together and everyone pumps each other up. And this is what this newsletter is all about. And the pumpkin is all about. It's like, first we started out where I gave pointers to the people, where I gave them compliments, and I said, you're doing really well. But now everyone is chiming in, the whole village, everyone that is a member is supporting other people that are struggling. And so it's really been fantastic. The kind of letters that you get. I mean, people say, oh, my God, I was struggling my whole life with this weight, but now I have a great plan. You've given me a great plan. And I have all the support, all of the members.

We have like a million people reading this newsletter. And so we have all of them supporting them and pumping them up. So it has been really the positive corner of the Internet because everything is so negative. People attack each other all the time. It's terrible.

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We grew up watching Predator, running man, commando, Terminator one and two, Conan, all of these movies. Do you realize that you were. You partly helped raise our entire generation?

Like, literally?

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. My father is the man that we both lived on.

I could be your biggest fan out of by far.

We watched Predator together on the couch. He would eat buffalo chicken wings with blue cheese slobbering off of him, not looking like the Dutch. But what is, I guess. Yeah. What movie do people bring up the most from your career? Like what? Which one did you like the most? I guess.

Well, let me tell you that it changes all the time. It's really weird because there are times, like, for instance, where people were kind of go crazy over Conan the barbarian.

Yeah.

And everyone wanted to see Conan the barbarian, and they saw it over and over again and all this stuff, and then, you know, people, things changed. And then all of a sudden they said Terminator. Oh, I love Terminator. Say the line, I'll be back. And I would say, I'll be back. No, no, not the way you said in the movies. So I said, I'll be back. They get really excited over that. And so then true lies, that a lot of people says true lies was the greatest thing because of Jamie Lee Curtis and our dynamics together. And then it was twins. And so it has changed over the years, and then it comes back again. Like, for instance, recently, more people have been asking me and talking to me about Predator, which is really interesting.

Yeah.

So, because Predator, we have done, I think, was 19, where I shot it in 1986. It came out in 1987, and it was, you know, it was really a fantastic, you know, team of guys that were together. Chess Ventura and Carl Weathers. Exactly. Yeah, it was really fantastic. And so we had a great time doing it. But, you know, now all of a sudden, there's a resurrection of this movie, and I don't know why that is. And so a lot of people have been asking me about Predator, so. But I have, like I said, I've done a lot of movies that people enjoy and that now they come back and Netflix and all those different streaming services, which is really great. So it has a life of its own. And I think that now I have kind of, like, the older people, the baby boomers that are fans of mine, and also the young people again, because there's movies that are coming back in the streaming service, so it's really great to enjoy both.

That's so cool, man.

Awesome. Was there any movie that you passed on that you wished you would have taken?

There was a movie called the Rock and. With John Conroy.

Yeah. Yeah.

So they came to me with a script. It was only 80 pages instead of 120, which normally scripts with a lot of handwritten scribbling in it. And they tried to kind of explain to me, oh, this is what we're gonna write here. So I said, look, guys, why don't you just come back when it's finished?

Yeah.

I said, this is half baked. I'm not gonna make a commitment. I said, and I have three movies lined up already to do in the next year and a half. So I said, I'm gonna be busy anyway. And so they then left, which was Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson. They left, and then they. Nicolas Cage got the job, got it apart, and they went to him, and he was. He took it and the way the script was. And then they did fine tune the script and did a great job with it. And the movie was fantastic. Yeah. Even though I was not in it. But Nicholas Cage did a fantastic job. Sean Connery was great, the directing was great, the writing, everything was really a straight ten. So, I mean, I was, I really enjoyed the movie, but there was one movie, for instance, that I thought I wished I would have taken, but I mean, I just couldn't take it because it was not yet written. Because they always say what's not on the page is not on the stage. So you got to be very careful always. And that's also an advice for you guys in the future.

When you get offered movies, just make sure that it is written well. Because when they say to you is this, well, we're going to have great special effects and you will not believe the kind of things we do. And we have this great director, we have this and that. We're going to straighten all this out. Let's see it first. Yeah, let me see the pages first. Let's see the rewrite first and all that kind of stuff. Because you want to be in something good, not right off the top, something that is not good later on, you never know how it's going to end up. So this is just advice for me to use it to always kind of look for well written scripts. That is the key thing.

Got it.

And great directors. I mean, when I think about my career wouldn't be what it was and what it has been if it wouldn't have been for John Milliers who directed coaches, man, and offering. Exactly. Or like Jim Cameron.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, think about Jim Cameron. I mean, what a genius director. Either the terminator, Terminator two with him, through lies with him. And then he went on to do Titanic and then the Avatar and all of this stuff. I mean, he literally made some of my favorite movies of all times. Or Ivan Reitman who directed twins, or John McTurnan who did the predator. So these are really extraordinary directors. They made me shine because they were great directors.

Always shining light, man. You're always shining light on everybody. Is, is there a, is there a modern day Arnold? Like, who are you a fan of.

Right now in that world in the action shown? Yeah, I think I'm a fan of the rock. I think he's fantastic. He's really good. I think there's the reacher. Yeah, right. I mean, that, that guy is really fantastic.

Speaking of the rock, in an alien invasion, are you the better representative of the rock? The better representative? Who's the better one? Who do you think?

It really depends. I mean, I think that both of.

You in your prime, both of you.

In your prime, I don't think that is you limited which is one or the other.

Both.

Why not work together?

Look at this. Spoken like a governor right here. That's what I'm saying.

Together with the ultimate talent, right?

That's right.

We have it all.

That's right.

We have the wisdom.

Great answer.

And then we have the strength, the speed, the talent.

Yeah.

And we can push it now. We are anything.

The aliens don't stand up. Oh, man. We've known that you had a competition with Sylvester Stallone back in your guys, but you and sly and all of the action stars, what was crazy about that generation was those were not just the action stars. Those were the biggest stars.

Yeah.

Like they outshined all of the other actors in Hollywood. It was the heyday of action movies, and you and Sylvester really went toe to toe. Obviously been on a Philadelphia and Rocky's a big movie to Philadelphia. But back in the day, you know, what was the competition like? Were there certain movies where you guys felt like you were going back and forth?

Like, well, first of all, let me just say that what made us be that big was that we created an era.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, just think about it. That before us, there were no action movies where the guys were really believable, physically speaking, that they could do this action. So we were the first ones that came on the scene. He looked very athletic, and he looked very good, and his skills in boxing was fantastic. So that. And, of course, his acting was mind blowing in that movie, and that's why it won all these awards. And then when I came out, you know, with Conan, people just couldn't believe that, you know, that. Oh, man. You know, because they always said, I.

Might name my first kid Conan.

We could never have done Conan without Schwarzenegger because there was no one around that had a body like that and it could act. So I was kind of the perfect guy for that time, and there were no stunt guys around that had a body like that. So I had to kind of do most of my stunts myself. There was a few things that Terry Leonard did, who was the stunt coordinator, but he always did everything from far away. And we had, you know, this camouflage paint I had on it, so they painted him up like that. So he looked somewhat like me. Right. But it was fine of a way so that we saw the idea.

Hollywood, baby.

Exactly. To do the stunts. But, I mean, it was, like, really frustrating because I had to do a lot of the stuff. I was trampled on by horses. I fell off into the sword fights. I got cut with the swords and all of this kind of stuff. So. But, I mean, we created an era of action movies where the guys like, you know, Sean got Van Damme, and all of those guys came in. They were ripped, they were muscular. And so then it became a competition. You know, it's like. But not just a competition of who has the best body, but it was kind of like who has the lowest body fat, who sells the most tickets at the box office, who uses the biggest knives in a movie, who kills more people in a movie, who kills the more people in the most creative way in a movie? And so the competition was so insane in every direction. Who uses the biggest gun? Oh, yeah. So sly used in Rambo a huge machine gun that he barely could hold up. Right? And so I said to the guy when I did command, I said, guys, we got to go and use a machine gun that is mounted on a helicopter, on a tank, not for a human being.

And so I was holding this gun. I couldn't hold it up. It had, like, a stand underneath because it was so heavy. It was so huge. Now I'm in the jungle there. Boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, nailing the jungle trees and all the scuffle. So it was crazy. The competition was insane with all the competitiveness. The day when we look back, we laugh at it because we are very good friends and we help each other all the time, and so we laugh at it. And we actually have come to the conclusion that because of this competition, we were kind of, like, working extra hard, because, as you know, competition creates performance. If you have no competition, there's no performance.

That's just too fucking kind right now. You got way too fucking kind.

Oh, no, we just grinded out, and we were competing and competing, and now it's. It's, it's. It's a. It's a friendly competition. It's always a competition. Yeah, but, I mean, now he's doing thals the king. You know, I'm doing my Fuba series starting in a month, and he's starting to shoot, I think, in a week or two. And so it is fun to see him successful. I'm successful, and we are doing it together kind of thing. And we laugh about the good old days.

Oh, yeah, sure you do.

How close were. Because it had to be at least offered and on the table, how close were you to being a villain in Rocky?

Oh, I was never offered no no, I was never offered, first of all, I wouldn't have taken it. I think that I knew that. But I mean, that the villains that he had, let's not forget, I mean, they were priceless. Yeah. I mean, if you think about, you know, Carl Weathers, right? I mean, how good he was, I mean, it was unbelievable. Or Dolph Longrin, let's be honest, Dolph.

Was good, but if I think of a German.

No, no, he was tall.

He was 6ft tall.

And he was, he was fantastic. I love Dalf Longren.

He might have had to change the script. That's what it really is.

Then Mister T. Yeah. How about Mister TT? Exactly. These were great, great villains in there in the opposite style. So I think that he did a good job picking those guys. But I mean, we did a movie together, you know. Exactly. Expandables. Yeah. And also escape plan. Escape plan. Yeah. So they changed the title from tomb to escape plan. And sly and I did that together, which was really fun to work with him in that film. And so maybe we do something else in the future. Who knows?

Well, we usually ask all of our NFL guests, what is your welcome to the NFL moment? You've had so many careers, so it's hard to ask which ones. We're gonna ask y'all. What is your welcome to Hollywood moment? What's your welcome to bodybuilding moment? And what's your welcome to America moment?

Well, let me just say that I am a product of a lot of help, okay? And they say that because so many times people say, you know, I'm a self made man, and I'm the perfect example of a self made man, but.

I'm, I've been following this guy my whole career, so I know what you're saying.

Exactly. So, so I, if I would never have been able to come to America, if it wouldn't have been for Joe Weider.

Yeah.

Who was the publisher of the muscle magazines. Nice. And he had the weider distribution with barbells and dumbbells and all of this stuff worldwide. And he brought me to America. He gave me the chance to bring me over here and to compete here in a mister universe contest and then estate here. And he paid for my, he paid for my apartment in the beginning and gave me some bit of spending money and I endorsed his products and all that kind of stuff. So that was very, very helpful in the movie world. It was the same thing. It was like, people that invited me in. I mean, there was a guy by the name of Barbara Rayfriend Bob Rafersen directed five easy pieces and easy writer and those movies with Jeff Nicholson, and he directed the movie that I was in, stay hungry with Jeff Bridges and with Sally Fields. Without him, I wouldn't have had that huge break in Hollywood. And I got the best acting debut award in the Golden Globes for that role. And so that was, you know, again, it was people that were helpful and that continued helping. And Dino de Laurentiis, who was one of the most famous producers, who then got me to do Conan the barbarian and with Ed Pressman and all this.

So there were a lot of people that were very helpful, and they brought me in. But, I mean, to me, coming to America was the key to my success, because everything that I have accomplished in my life was because of coming to America. America is the land of opportunity, even though people criticize it and politicize it. And it doesn't matter if the Democrats are in charge, if the Republicans are in charge. America is the greatest country in the world. It has. Is the most generous country in the world, and it has given me all the opportunities in the movie business and in bodybuilding and making millions of dollars and, you know, and my family and everything. It's all because of America.

What do you think it is that makes America so unique as a country? Like, why is it that America has.

That, you know, it's just its history and it's just its generosity. It's just a place where foreigners are welcomed. And this is the key thing. If you are willing to contribute to America, there's a lot of people that want to come to America to take advantage of America. And I am very vividly against that, because everything is a two way street. When I come to America and I see that I'm being welcomed and received with open arms, then I want to make sure that I do everything I can to give back to America. And this was, to me, always the thing, you know, which means not skipping taxes or running off to another country to have some offshore cooperation or any of those things. I believe in paying your taxes and go and enjoy this great nation that gives us all these opportunities and giving something back. So that's why I always was interested in getting involved in creating after school programs for kids all over the country. So we have one of the biggest afterschool program organizations, the afterschool all stars. That's awesome. I got involved in Special Olympics, Brandon.

Where is that? On the rundown. God damn it.

I have, you know, done the Special Olympics. I became the national coach of Special Olympics, international coach of Special Olympics to help people that are disadvantaged sometimes, you know, mentally or physically, and so helped them and traveled around the world to do that. Then, of course, being the chairman of the president's council on Physical Fitness and Sports, on the president's bushes leadership. So I did that for years, and that was really fantastic to travel through all 50 states in the United States to start to kind of motivate kids to exercise and have more physical education programs in a public schools. And then, of course, running for. For governor, it was like I literally gave up. You know, at that point, I was getting anywhere between 20 and $30 million a movie, and I was doing two movies a year, and I gave that up pretty good to run for governor and to be governor for seven years, not to take the salary.

Yeah.

Even did, you know they offer you $178,000, which was like petty cash, right. I'm not going to take that. Give it to people in California that need it. There's a lot of people that need that money more than I do. But, I mean, those are the kind of things I gave up to give something back to America, because I said to myself, America gave me everything. So now it's time, my time, to give something back. Love that.

All right, we're going to stop being fanboys over your acting career and switch over to a different kind of fanboy here. Andy Reid always tells Travis, you lose your glutes, you lose your game. As a seven time Mister Olympian and the most iconic weightlifting bodybuilding individual of all time, what is the key to building up your body in your mind? Like, I know that it's more complex, but what are the few things that our listeners could take away? And, like, if they wanted to become more happy with their physique, get pumped up, what are the few keys that you give them?

The most important thing. And I was very fortunate that I started in a weightlifting club. So we were not allowed to do bodybuilding exercises until we have proven that we have done our training for weightlifting, for olympic lifting. So we just did the two arm press at that time. Now, they didn't do that anymore. Then it was the two arm. Clean and jerk. Clean and jerk, two arm snatch. So those are the three disciplines that we had to kind of practice. And then on top of that, I practiced also powerlifting, the bench press. There was like, actually four disciplines. It was the bench press. Then there was the squat and the deadlift and also the cheating curl. Cheating curl. Cheating curl, yes.

That means you're swinging.

It was understood. You swing, but you had to get it up there. So there was like, so those were the four kind of disciplines. So we had to practice that also. And when that was done, then you could go and do some chin ups and do some inclined bench presses or some flies, pull over exercises, focus on specific roles and stuff like that for bodybuilding. So there was, there was the deal. So I was lucky, because in weightlifting, you do the very basic exercises. The deadlift. Yeah, that's why I went all the way up to 710 pound deadlift. God damn it. And then the bench press. And the bench press. So I did all the basic lifts bent over rowing, you know, the squats, the bench press, the incline press, all of those things that, the squat that were very, very important to build the basics of the body compound muscle, because then when that is done and you have deltoids and you have pectoral muscles and you have a huge chest and lats and the back, now you go and start chiseling away, because now it's about the perfection. Do you have enough upper lats, lower lats and rear deltoids, side deltoids, front deltoids.

Is there a split between the pectoral muscle and the front deltoid? Is there a split between the trapezius?

You're going through the entire anatomy of the body, right?

No, but I mean, it's, you have to know all of that. That is the most important thing, because when, because there's an exercise for each part of your body. And so when you know, how do I go and create a little bit more of that rear deltoid? How do I create a little bit more of the serratus that separates the latissimus from the background muscle? How do I create a little bit more of those intercastles that separates the abdominals and the side to the obliques and all of those kind of things? When you know those exercises and know those machines, that's what makes it then sculpture. The perfect body, or as perfect as we ever can get. No one ever got perfection, but I mean, as perfect. So that's what it is about. It's knowing that studying it and then also knowing the nutritional part, because, you know, you got to realize that the body needs protein, it needs carbohydrates, it needs fats, it needs. But what is the balance? So that is also very important that you figure out not what is the rule out there. So that's important to know what's the rule.

But that's not the only thing that's important. You got to figure out also what is it that is working for you? Because what works for you may not work for you. You see what I'm saying? So people try to copy each other. That's all good. Of course, I copied my curl because someone else did the curl in order. But then I had to figure out what kind of a curl do I need to do to get that peak and a bicep? What did I need to do for my calves, for my outer calves? So everyone is different and everyone has to therefore train a little differently.

Yeah.

Jason does a lot of. What is it? You're vegan. Jason's real vegan. I always was out on vegan. I never thought I did it one week, couldn't do it. I needed way more protein other than beans. Have you ever gone vegan?

I have cut down my meat intake by around 70%, and the one that talked me into it was Jim Cameron. He's vegan, 100% vegan, and he has tremendous energy. And so I think it works because when you get older, then you doctors always would tell you, especially if you have a heart condition, they will always tell you. I said, look, cut down on your meat in, cut down on your meat intake. And so I did. I started, you know, just eating mostly vegetables in at night, having a soup or some cucumber salad or something like that, rather than having chicken or having meat or steak. But I still love my steak.

It's pretty good.

I still go out there and every so often make my barbecued steak. I still want to go to Austria, eat my wiener schnitzel. Oh, man. The breaded wiener schnitzel. Are you kidding me? The breaded wiener's veal. Yeah, it's fantastic.

You know, chicken schnitzel out there in Germany. I went to Frankfurt this year.

That's also good chicken. It's very, very good.

Yeah, I'm in the process right now. I'm retired. I've played my whole career at 295. I'm trying to get down to 200, 5260. My goal is two pounds every week. Lose it because I want to lose it, but maintain my muscle mass.

Yeah.

And I'm trying to monitor my protein, my carbs, my fats, and make sure that I'm hitting at least one pound per body weight. Is that, are these why I'm asking? Is this like, the model? Because I'm trying to.

The most important thing is that you slowly kind of decrease the body fat.

Yes.

And increase the body muscles.

Right.

So you just switch. It doesn't just have to do with the weight. Yes. Of course, you want to reduce weight because it's much healthier and you're much more natural and much faster. You can do more in order to kind of stuff. You're much more energetic, but you want to slowly decrease the fat and increase a muscle mass. That is the key thing. And so with the exercising and with the machines and the weights and all of that stuff, you should be able to do that very easily. And I know that you have lifted some serious weights and your best squat, what is.

What is, like 700 some? I haven't done it in a long time.

Yeah, but, I mean, that's some serious weight. So you're talking about my body would break.

Don't even look.

No, no. But I mean, you guys, both of you lift a lot of weights, and so it should be easy to go into. You don't have to lift heavy. Yeah, that's the key thing. Because, remember, at a certain age, you start getting into this wear and tear of the joints, unnecessary because you're not competing. So it's unnecessary to go and try to outdo the lifting and all that stuff. I rather see you doing in a 1215 reps, an exercise and doing it as strict as possible and do many, many reps and many sets, and to do it the right way and to gain the muscle size rather than to just torture yourself and to have injuries and all that, that time should be over for you.

Or smarter than. Harder, man.

Yeah.

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Let's do notam questions. What happened here? He was the parking attendant out there when I came in. This is, like, wild.

I mean, rules around here, Brandon.

I have never seen anything like it in my life.

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Joe Namath.

Well, I mean, I tried to watch it because, of course, my friends, even though they were bodybuilders in the gym, in go gym, and Sundays, I would be hanging out with them, and they said, let's watch football. So I was watching football, but of course, I could not understand it. Imagine that in soccer, you never stop.

Yeah.

And in football, they stopped all the time. And they said, why are we stopping here?

Best thing ever, they say, what the.

Hell is going on here? And then, why was that? So then when they started explaining me some of the rules and orders, then they started making sense. But when it really made sense was when I had kids and my sons were heavily in the football. They were playing football also in elementary school and then also in high school and all of that stuff and loved it. And so we, of course, had to watch football. There was the things that we did, always together, that's all. And then, so I said, wait a minute. Why is this guy saying that this was not allowed? I mean, all he did was just held onto his gear and didn't let him run. No, he can't do that. I said, yeah, but then the other.

Guy was take his helmet off.

The other guy, I've been saying for years, this guy and hitting him in the head with the, you know, and they're crashing together with the helmets, and the guy's passing out. I said, that's okay. That doesn't make any. So anyway, things like that. So they explained it to me step by step. And the kids, I tell you one thing I learned very quickly. How much did your children love to educate the parents? Because we always say, don't do this, do this, do that. No, no, you're wrong with the math. This is the way it is. The spelling is wrong. You write this again, and all this, we always try to tell them what to do. So now all of a sudden you go, but it was not kind of like meant to be like that. But I said, patrick, what happened here now? Why? So then he explains it. And I said, oh, that's why he said. So I realized how much he loved it. And then he had his buddies over there. Then he looked over his bodies, you know, kind of like this guy, I have an idiot father. I mean, you know, you have to understand, guys, he's from Austria, okay?

It was all this eyeing around and stuff like that. So. But, I mean, I learned the game, I learned the rules, and then later on, around ten years ago, I fell in love with Heather, with my girlfriend, who is a physical therapist who treats a lot of the football players and boxers and UFC fighters and basketball players. And she's really a fanatic about sports and especially about football. So now I'm sitting with her and she's explaining if I have any questions.

Here we go, Heather.

It never stops. So anyway, so this is really what has happened in the, in the last few years.

You had to have been asked to play football at some point, though?

No, I've never been asked. Because, I tell you why. Because people have known my drive and my clear vision in bodybuilding, you know, because I've been invited by track and field guys, you know, Bruce Channer and all these guys that were training for the Olympics in the seventies, you know, to come in the field with them and to throw the javelin into the shot. But notice stuff. But I mean, I've never really been invited to play football or anything like that. But like I said, I always loved it. That was always mesmerized of how it can be so popular and how people can get into it and drink and eat and this, and then it becomes kind of like a. It was, it's really fantastic. Yes.

Culture.

I learned. I learned that whole thing watching my kids, you know, kind of digging it and just to having their friends over and how this was kind of the early stage and how that continued on until the dates.

That's how. That's exactly how it started for us just sitting there watching with our dad and enjoying those games. If you ever want to come see some good football, baby, you're more than welcome to come on over to Kansas City.

Do you have a team that you.

Roll the red carpet out when you live here?

Then you. Then you root for teams from here. Maybe the 49 ers or whatever it is, you know? But I mean, whatever. But I mean, I always say that if you watch the best, no matter what it is, what sport it is, if you watch the best, I mean, it is absolute heaven and so is so inspirational.

So I'm with you on that.

The best in football, if you watch the best in football, if it's college football, it's professional football, if it is, whatever it is, or gymnastics or this or that. I mean, it's just always wonderful to watch. I love watching.

I'm with you.

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Is that cheating? That works. Well, how close are we to the Terminator becoming a real thing with AI?

And I think we are very close.

Right?

We're very close. People ask me all the time, how do you feel about AI? I said, I'm not as concerned about artificial intelligence as I'm about basic stupidity. I mean.

Yeah.

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Real life stupidity worries me more than a fucking AI.

That's fair. I mean, that's very fair.

Have you ever given your son in law, Chris Pratt, acting advice?

No. I think that he's doing fantastic in his career. I mean, he's really great. And we talk a lot about, you know, show business because this is a whole new era now. And so we talk about that versus when I kind of got into the game and he's a fun guy to talk to. I'm really happy that my daughter, you know, has found him and. Or that he has found her. Whatever you. They found each other. They found each other. Whatever. But, I mean, it's because they really fit really well together.

Nice.

And they just look wonderful together. They're so in love with each other, and the grandchildren. I love the grandkids. I mean, she brings them over on the weekends and Saturday.

Yeah.

And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals granddaddy. Right. So I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals? I said, let's go and feed Chanel, which is my pig. And the pig is. Now, I got it at the pig when it was, like, 16 pounds. Now it's like 100 pounds. I mean, I don't know what happened, but I think someone. So now they're feeding Snelly, and they teach them how to put it in his mouth and all of those kind of things. Then they go into the stall with me, and they bring out the, you know, the miniature donkey, Lulu and whiskey, the miniature pony. And then they feed them, and they bring apples over and feed them and all.

How did you get into owning a miniature pony?

Well, it's. It's. Heather gave it to me. The miniature pony heather. And. No, not the. The pony is actually Catherine's, but the donkey heather gave me.

Okay.

And so what happened was, Katherine had this pony, and then all of a sudden, when she started getting interested in boys, all of a sudden, the animals were out.

Yeah.

She didn't pay any attention. So I saw this pony down at the stall below where I live in some public stall, and then there would be other horses and miniature horses and stuff like that. And so I said, well, I'm gonna bring it up to my house, because it's stupid to have this miniature pony down there and doesn't get any attention. I want to just have it walk around in the house, come into the house and stuff like this. So, anyway, so that's what I did. I had this pony, and that's just it walked around the house, and I fed it, and it was always fun. And then had, I said, she needs a companion. So then Heather got me the, you know, the miniature donkey. And so now I have, you know, Lulu and whiskey. So the whiskey is the pony, and the donkey is Lulu, and so they. But the question really is so when. You should see that when they all come in in the morning. I mean, it's like the donkey is in there. The pony is in there. The pig is in there begging for food. The three dogs are in there.

Everyone is sitting there on the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we are making these oatmeal cookies that have no sugar in it. It's just like honey and some, you know, oatmeal is in there and a few things like that. So very, very healthy and so we feed this to the animals, and they just sit there and they do anything you ask them to do. If they get a cookie or with food, as you know, with animals. With food, you can really cancel.

That's number one right there.

Make them do anything. So anyway, when Catherine comes over with her kids and they play with the animals, like, for hours, they just love it. They just love it. And can I pick up cherries, which is the little dog that I have? And so then Lila picks up cherry, and then Eloise picks up cherry, and then I want the whole cherry. Oh, can I sit on the donkey? Yeah, of course you can sit on Lulu. Then I put on Lulu. This is how it goes. They're having a great time.

That sounds like a great talk about it, man. You can tell it's fun. In your professional political opinion, obviously, governor of California. We've been talking about it. Jason, how far away you think he should?

Why are you asking this?

Governor of Pennsylvania. Look, I mean, he's. No, he's got the. He's got it all right.

Yeah, but he has to be in his heart. That's right. So, you know, he maybe has the right combination. He has the most important thing. Number one is name recognition. So of course he has that. But the second most important thing is you have to be passionate. You have to really say, I see myself as the governor like I did. I saw myself as the governor, and I was absolutely convinced I can do a better job than the politicians did, because I said to myself, because they always say, they say, oh, my God, Schwarzenegger doesn't know anything about politics. They say, but wait a minute. I say, we have warehouses of politicians, of experts up there in Sacramento, and look at this, we have a $34 billion deficit. I say, you should be ashamed of yourself. That's what. You know. I say I know better. I say, I would not spend money I don't have. That's as simple as that. You know. So there were certain things like that that I've just felt very strongly and that people elected me because of that. And so it depends, you know, if you are into the public service thing or not.

If you are, of course you can win because you're an imposing figure. You speak really well. You're very clear. And all you have to do now is then just convince the people I'm the man, which they already know. You're the man I can make.

Don't get me started with right now to go do this right. I got a clear vision of my career right now.

Forget the mayor. Yeah, fuck it. Forget the mayor. Forget the mayor. Don't get the same thing you should have done for mayor first, folks. He's a governor. You go for governor and then president. You're born here. You're born here.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is president. I mean, is that not.

I'm going to the White House. I'll steal that thing and change it.

We would have the play. We would have the Super bowl on the south lawn of the White House. That I can guarantee you right now. Kennedy used to. When he was president, he used to have sports events right in front of this in the south lawn of the White House. You didn't know the fun baseball games and tennis games and football games. They all were playing there, doing some sport or the other. That's why when I did, when I became the chairman of the president's council on fitness, I then went and talked President Bush into having the great american workout on the south lawn of the White House. And we had it every beginning of the May.

Where is this? On the rundown. God, that is so freaking cool.

That's why I tell you this stuff. This is all secret stuff.

This is cool, man. As authority to all the cool shit in the world, what are your thoughts on the new cybertruck? Is it cool? Is it weird? Is it too futuristic? Do you know, you know which one I'm talking about?

Yeah, absolutely.

You have one?

I don't have one. No. But I can tell you one thing. When it comes to trucks, I like the old kind of stuff better. You know, I think it looks cooler. That's fair. I still love my hummus. I mean, it's like, I tell you, I have a Hummer. I had a hummer that was electric, which was really fantastic at 550 hp.

Yeah.

And then we auctioned it off for the afterschool programs, and we fetched over $500,000 thing. Yeah, exactly. It was really great.

Well done.

And then I have a biodiesel hummer. So I have various different hummers, and they're really fun to drive. And this is much more my kind of.

Jason has a cybertruck.

I got an old school truck, too.

Yeah, you'll try and straight if the cyber. I just got it electric.

It is electric. It sounds like it's similar to the Hummer.

The amazing thing about the electric is it's just so much more power. It just takes on immediately because there's no delay. Yes, there's no delay.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

But I also have an old Chevy Silverado from 1987 old square body.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's when they knew how to make cars.

No doubt.

Exactly. Yeah. You do. You know that you guys are coming from Cleveland, obviously, but, I mean, so in Cleveland, I never knew this is where they were. The original city was where they started building cars.

Yeah.

Back in Cleveland, I went to that car museum.

Yeah.

The other museum that you have there. Absolutely fantastic to go through there.

Yeah. Our dad worked in the steel mills. I think our family history was they. The only reason that city started was to build cars.

That's right. And it was a negative Detroit somehow.

Yeah.

I mean, what a history.

Yeah.

I never knew there was such a history there.

Yeah.

Absolutely fantastic.

Beautiful revolution.

Beautiful city.

Absolutely.

The reason why Cleveland's amazing. All right, last question. If you were to reboot one of your movies and cast each of us in a role, what movie and who do you think we'd play?

Oh, I would definitely do Conan the barbarian. Imagine how real this is. I mean, you don't have to change anything. All you have to do is go on. Go on. A. No, you can put a wig on it. There was a partial wig.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, partial wig. The thing is that they had also had short hairs. Short hair in those days. You don't have to do the. The long hair thing. Yeah. But, I mean, that would be fantastic. All you have to do is just learn how to horseback ride, and maybe you guys know how to.

I've been bucked off every horse I've ever been on.

That is the key thing is to really get good in horseback riding.

Okay.

Because, you know, when you do the sword fighting on a horse, it's kind of really. You cannot pay much attention to the horse. Yeah. The horse goes around the circle and does its thing, but you have to pay attention to the sword not to get whacked. So, I mean, so that's. That's the thing. So I think if you take sword fighting lessons, I took three years sword fighting lessons in three years horseback riding lessons and with all kinds of weapons and the martial arts and all this stuff. And it really was helpful to be that prepared when I did the movie. But that's the key thing. So if you do that, I mean, imagine you guys.

That's it with the armor, just three.

Years with the big hammer, the big battles, and all that stuff into the village, just wiping out everyone. Crush your enemies. See, they've even before you and hear the lamentation of their women.

Maybe I can start off on Lulu.

Exactly.

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There we go, chasing the drivers. A fantastic. I mean, Arnie, we can't thank you enough. Interviewers. That's all I can say. Even though I know they're gonna cut this part out now.

Oh, no, it's.

This guys are really the real deal. I love talking to them. And I'll be back. See you later.

92% is Arnie.

Thank you, brother.

Oh, my God.

So far. Fucking cool. He was in a shot.

He was.

What kind of an angle is that with that camera over there? Why did you do that? I mean, it's like. Did Sly send you? Oh, yeah.

Start it up, baby.