Chason.

Stop. All right, cut that. I can't have.

That out there. Cut it all.

Can we cut this entire fucking thing?

I've been knocking on wood the entire time we've been talking about this.

Yeah, I don't even want to talk about this. This is too.

Much karma. We fucked that one up. Sorry, Brandon. Welcome back to New Heights, presented by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Walmart. Walmart deals are here. That's right. You heard it here on New Heights First. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsie out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, and new episodes drop every Wednesday during the NFL season 92 % of us. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show—that's with 1S. And check out our official fan club at newhightshowe. Com also with 1S. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up today.

Yeah, well, we have an episode lined up for you guys.

All right, oh, nice.

Obviously, we're going to recap both of our week 13 games in excruciating detail, and then we will get to our shoutouts for the fan mentions of the week. So maybe something from the Chicago Black Hawks. Talk about the biggest storylines from around the league, of course, including the latest development and the movement to ban the Breilly Shove.

Yeah, finally get that out of here.

But first, as always, new news. New news. All right, first bit of new news. Spotify put out their lists of the most popular podcast, songs, artists and albums of 2023. And New Heights is officially number one.

Number.

One. Sports podcast of 2023. That's right. Number one sports podcast of 2023. Shout out again to the 92 percenters and everybody that listens to this, watches this, or contributes to this wonderful community. Can't thank you guys enough for supporting us two knuckleheads and everyone else that's a part of this community.

This is pretty crazy.

Yeah, we were number one right above our friends over with part of my take, Bill Simmons podcast, fantasy footballers, the Pat McAfee show, which I think, Pat's most of his are video, right? I mean, he's getting way more views than we are feeling it's whatever.

Yeah, he's on ESPN. Yeah.

Old Man in the Three. Yeah, so a lot of good names on this. A lot of great podcasts. Honor to be up there with all.

Of these. 1,000%.

Some other highlights from the Spotify wrapped page, we are streaming in 134. That's right. Different countries. I mean, that's crazy.

Oh, damn, 134 different countries. That's crazy.

How many countries do you think there are?

I.

Have no idea.

Infinity.

We're 134 different countries.

Do we have a count on how many countries are out there? Can we get a count on how many countries are out there?

Do you think it's in the three? I feel like it's like 400. If it's 100, but that's way too much. There's no way there's... How many countries are there?

How many countries have Spotify? Three something.

It's got to be in the hundreds, right? It can't be that high. Google says, 195 countries. That's a pretty good ratio. I mean, we're almost worldwide at this point. We're close.

Yeah, we're definitely worldwide, but we're almost like every country. We're just crazy.

World full? I don't know. Yeah.

Can you also google how many of those countries have the ability to listen to Spotify?

That's a good point. It's probably 134. Yeah. Can we take out me guessing 400 countries just so I don't look like a complete fucking idiot?

I guess 300. I'm not going to lie. I thought we were shooting somewhere around 50%. Yeah.

Yeah, we had the most new listeners in obviously one, the good old red, white and blue itself, the United States.

Number two- USA.

Our socialist friends up north in Canada.

Number three, the United Kingdom.

Number four, Germany, where Travis played the first NFL game ever played in this past year. And five, Australia.

Yeah, apparently a- Shout out to Jordan, man. Jordan probably is just not alive with that one.

Our mates over there in Australia are given the pod a good listen to All right, that's awesome. Good to know.

It's pretty fucking cool. Yeah.

Our average podcast rating was five out of a possible five.

There's no way. How many ratings do we have? Like two?

Yeah, I don't know. I just know.

That if we were- Do you ever give ratings? Do you ever give ratings?

Yes, I do. Everybody should rate ours five stars. No, I've never rated anything in my life. All I know is that if this podcast was a fitness, we're sticking that fucking landing. That's all I know.

You're not on Yelp or Pinterest leaving your comments? Five out of five maybe.

I guess they go out of 10. Does Diving go out of five?

I don't know. I think it's all out of six.

Our episode with Kyle was the most listened to episode this year.

Knew it.

It was listed as a standout podcast episode of 2023.

Oh, okay, Kai. Nice.

He's killing it. It's up to, last time I checked, over five million views. Holy fuck. Kyle is doing a really good job of staying under the radar.

Thanks, Kai. Well played. Just how she likes it.

Oh, yeah.

Just sliding by.

Well, thank you. Thank you to everybody who's listening. Much appreciated. Hopefully we keep entertaining you guys. I don't know. Yeah.

We really appreciate that, guys. This one, I don't know if this one is going to be as fun, but let's give it a try. In other new news, we're officially a sandwich. That's right. The user, McNeuWin. He on a New Heights Reddit page, let us know that an actual sandwich has been named for the New Heights podcast. In quote, Sandwich is available at a little diner in Edwardsville, Kansas. I like that. I'm a fan of diners. It's out here in the middle of the country. You know I'm a fandiner. -i know the country, you know it. Love it. Just south of Village West, Legends Park of the KCK called Grill 32. Over there, Grill 32, we got a sandwich. All right, now I like that.

I don't know that you can be a diner and your name is Grill 32.

It looks good. It's a blending philly cheesestake and some KC barbecue.

How about that?

Sounds.

Like a good combination. I'm not going to lie. What's on the sucker? What do we got on there, Triv?

It's talk about on top of the sandwich, there's two layers, three pieces of bread, it looks.

Like-triple Decker.

Yeah, a little triple-decker. Yeah, a little triple-decker. Is a steak, onions, bell peppers, provalone, cheese sauce. Not Cheese Whiz, cheese sauce.

What's.

Cheese sauce? A 32 sauce, which I'm guessing is grill 32's special sauce. Cheese sauce is what looks like to be Cheese Whiz, or how I like to call it macho cheese.

No, it's different. Otherwise we just said Cheese Whiz, right?

This is a good question for Kyle, talking about Kyle.

Are you eating cheese sauce? Is cheese sauce acceptable? I can't see that. It looks white.

Yeah, it's just melted cheese at that point. It's not cheese sauce.

I'm just saying it's just white, though. We've been over this. You don't like white condiments?

Yeah, no, you're right. But I do like cheese. Yeah, you do The bottom half is a turkey or ham, bacon, lettuce, tomato, American cheese, Mayo, barbecue, and 32 sauce, again, stacked on Texas Toast. Yeah, this thing looks like lunch and dinner all in one sandwich.

Yeah. Well, it's New Heights all in one sandwich. Other than the Mayo, which I'm a big fan of the Mayo, so I'm happy you guys put it on there, but Trav does not eat Mayo.

Yeah, not a big Mayo. Mayonade just seeping through Jason's pores right now. Look at his face. It's just fucking.

Just- Mayo, blue cheese. Give me all.

That stuff. -when you sweat, do you taste it?

Sometimes. If I haven't sweat in a minute, it's got some salt to it. I just hear just.

Somebody whitting it.

You know when you haven't sweat in a few days and you go to run and then you start sweating and your eyes just get all... You start stinging from the amount of sweat going in your eyes?

Just spread it on.

I mean, you can make it sound disgusting as much as you want. Mayonaise is delicious, Travis.

It's so disgusting.

You're very clearly in the minority of this worldwide. I'm glad we're in 134 different countries so they can see how weird it is that you don't like ketchup.

K ketchup is like a foreign thing in Germany.

Yeah, they use ketchup. Oh, my gosh. It's very common.

Across Europe. I was eating dry fries. Just dry fries the whole time. Just fucking potatoes, chopped.

Up, fried. I do hate foreign ketchup. They haven't caught on.

To the fact that they're.

The only way... They do not have that shit figured out. They just don't use high-fructose corn syrup.

Really, Heinz is the only one that's really got to fucking figure it out.

Because they use high-fructose corn syrup. Ketchup is not supposed to be tomato-based, you idiots. It's supposed to be high-fructose corn service. Where did you get this ridiculous idea that ketchup has anything to fucking do with tomatoes?

Nice. Well, thank you, Grill 32.

If I'm ever in between the Village West Legends Park area of Kansas City, Kansas, I might.

Hit up Grill 32. We might have to stop by.

I have a nice tram to get his without Mayo, but it'll be good. Maybe we get some clarification on cheese sauce. But either way, it sounds delicious. All right, let's get some fan mentions of the week. Let's do this. First fan mention of the week, we got some love from the Chicago Blackcox. That's right, Tav. They must have heard you last week. The quote tweeted the clip from last week's episode of us building our NHL starting fives with NFL players, of course. We were obviously talking about Connor Bedard.

Bedzy.

They came back with, Our home is your home, at TKills. You can just call him Bedzy.

Bedard. Nice. Sorry, Connor, I butchered your name. I butchered my own name.

How did you say it last week?

I think I put an N in there somewhere.

You did. Yeah. Now that I'm remembering it. Yeah, that was where it was. But we're saying it right now.

Yeah, Bedzy. Easy as that.

Yeah. I'm getting rid of the ending. I'm just saying, Bedzy.

He's got to be from Canada.

I haven't seen one.

Snap of his kid.

You haven't? I haven't seen one of.

This.

Kid. One snippet? No. One skate. I haven't seen anything. I haven't watched the NHL yet this year. That's how quick he is. Is he a rookie this year or he came in-.

He was in the moon last year. -last year. Yeah.

I haven't seen a chin guard of him. I don't know. I got nothing.

He's a baller.

Sounds like it.

Have you seen any hockey at all this year?

Zero so far this year. I got to get after it. I haven't seen any hockey this year, but I want to.

What do you do for entertainment when you get home?

Well, most of the time I'm trying to play with my kids or watching Bluey and PAW Patrol.

Nice. At what point do you become Ed, Kelsey, and.

Have- Separate TV.

Just give me the remote. What do you mean? I'm watching I'm watching Nicolodeon. Give me the remote. Law and order is on.

I try to put on stuff that I want to watch. They want nothing to do with it. I am getting taken to the woodshed when it comes to what's being on the TV. I tried to put on Tropic Thunder the other day, and Kyle made me turn it off right at the.

Opening scene. I think we.

Were talking about that. The four guys' guts are all out. She was like, What are you doing? Turn Jason. Why is she staring at me like this? I'm like, What damage am I doing right now to my daughter?

It's life, man. It's life. Traffic Thunder. It's life.

We watch a lot of Pocahontas and Aladdin.

Dude, also- Travel. Yeah. What?

Are you going to get a net for Connor?

For Connor? I'll get on the ice anywhere. You know what I'm saying? I'm down. I actually don't think I've been on the ice since I stopped playing, but just like I hadn't gone skiing since I was 12, and we just jumped on a fucking blue slope. No, it was a blue slope, I think. It might have been a black slope. I don't know.

Blue slope. Intermediate.

Yeah. That thing was steep. I remember looking at you at the top of that fucking wheel. We were the last two to go.

Yeah.

I was looking at you and you looked at me and you said, Fuck it. Then just jump. Yeah, we.

Just went.

I was just like, Oh, God damn it.

Kyle had a rough day. It was the first time ever skiing. We told her... That's a funny story. We went to Aspen for the Winner X Games one year. We had been skiing growing up not a lot, but because we ice skated, we knew how to navigate. We get to the place and the instructor or the person at the front who's giving you your equipment is like, giving you your equipment. It's like, okay, what's your experience level skiing? I was like, I haven't done it in over a decade.

But I'm just an expert.

We did.

It in growing up. I'm a professional. Just give me.

The skills. She was like, Okay, well, your stuff is right over there. Then Kyle gets up there and said, What's your level of skiing expertise? She said, I've never skied before my life.

I'm going to proceed to tell her- You should be going down this hill.

Yeah, you should go to a different mountain. There's not a beginner hill on this mountain. There's not a beginner level at this resort. I proceeded to tell her. I was like, Listen, Kai, it's not that hard. Pizza French frown, you'll be fine. You go at your own pace. You go at your own pace. There were no body slopes. It's going to be fine. You figure it out. It'll be fine. We get off that lift, and right away, pizza ain't slowing her down. She's pizza and she is pizza down the mountain. I'm like, Oh, no, this is not good.

Oh, man, it is just so electric.

Thankfully, Kyle- It took us 45 minutes to get down that hill.

She was a trooper. She was a trooper.

I guess it was a mountain, technically. But what an electric place that was? We got to go back to Colorado.

Yeah, we got to go back. Oh, my gosh.

I can't even do it justice talking about it. The amount of time she would just fall over, and then I tried to go in slow motion, almost hurt myself because I'm trying to teach her how to slow herself down. I almost dislocate my hip. I'm like, I'm done doing this. I'm going at my pace now. Left her out to dry again. Then we left her in the ocean and left her on top of the hill. That was because Keilly was there. Keilly was there. We were.

All sitting at the bar having our second beer and.

Here she comes. We waited for about 20 minutes, tried to get her to figure it out. Then the only person that had the patience anymore was Keilly, who stayed back with her.

You're ridiculous, man.

Well, she was in good hands. Keilly knew how to teach better than I did. Shout out to Colton Keilly Anderson.

Your childhood favorites, pizza, French fry.

Kind of a- I had never been on a mountain. Growing up in.

Ohio- Going down a Blue.

Diamond Slope. -pizza works on all of the mountains in Ohio.

Oh.

Man. Apparently pizza doesn't work when you're on top of one of the Aspen Mountain or whatever the heck that thing was called.

Oh, man, that is some good shit, dude. Thank you for reminding me of that. Give me some skates. I haven't thrown the goalie pads on yet, but man.

Yeah, you.

Never played goalie. Dude, I used to fucking stone your shit in the fucking driveway. Dude, stop it. I was always a backup goalie. I don't remember this. Daily was the main goalie, but I was the backup.

I'm not going to lie, I don't remember playing. In street hockey, we always played post at Roxburg, elementary. They had taken the Nets down and we.

Played post. You used to be like, You want to go do one-on-one? We used to play in the driveway. What do you call? The gate that kept Bell in would be the goal, and I would just be right here the whole time. I used to wear the street hockey goalie gear that dad got us from played against sports.

I don't remember this.

I'm sure I did. I just don't remember. I'm sure we did. I just don't remember. You fueled half of our sports complex. Seriously. If it wasn't for you guys, I don't know if we'd be playing as many sports as we did. But- There's no question. I remember this vividly because it was always me in the net. It was never you in the net. It was always, Hey, you want to go play hockey?

We had to have fun, Travis.

But I do have some goalie experience. It's about it, but I do have some.

I remember the mini stick arena dad built. I don't remember that. I remember the mini stick arena in the basement that was carpet on cement. We would run around on ourhockey.

And you doing like a shootout. I remember playing rollerblade hockey and you doing a shootout?

I remember rollerblade hockey, but I remember that I only remember that at.

Roxburg, at Pulse. Fairfax? Oh, yeah, Roxburg, elementary. Yeah. Damn, that was fun.

Yeah, we were playing post.

That was such a good fucking time.

It was a great time.

Our NFL hockey lineup, Clip, also got the attention of JJ Watt and Ray Lewis.

Hey.

Two Hall of Famers right there, chiming in. Ray Lewis talking about, Lace them up, man. I would love to see that dude on hockey skates.

So would I.

No, we might win the cup from JJ Watt in quotes. That's what I'm talking about right there, baby.

I think we got to get out on the ice with the Wots.

We do.

I saw a clip of JJ. He still got it.

Oh, yeah. He can rip a slapshot. All right, now. Well, shout out to the Hawks, baby. Black Hawks, man. Appreciate you guys reaching back out. I would love to jump on the ice and get diced up by Bedzy if the opportunity ever presents itself or Stone is shit. Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? I might just fucking….

Come on, man. All right, where are we at here? Next up, we got a mention from Bert Krayscher and Tom Seguira's podcast. All right. I love those two guys. Two bears.

One cave. Two bears, one cave. You already.

Know that. Apparently, they're proposing that all three of our moms fight. That's right. Here's the clip of that.

They need to respect us. They do. What do we do? Maybe we'll have our moms fight their mom.

I feel like that's not fair.

It's two on one.

Is she get in one of them at a time, or is she going to.

Take both of.

Them at the same time?

Don't you underestimate Donna.

I'm not going to lie.

Don't you.

Underestimate Donna. I think Donna might be able to take both of them at the same time. She hit me one time. Mom only hit me once. It's only takes once. I don't know what. I was being a little shit one day, probably. Terrible. I still remember what I said. I probably have heard this word, and I had never said it before in front of her. I said, Mother fuck. I got to that far. Before I could even get the Ker out, it was like a Panther. Just thwited me across the face. It's true. What the fuck did she say? What has happened? Look out, guys. Turned you to a ghost. Let's let you know, Mama Kels, she's half Panther.

She is, dude.

And she wears a lot of leopard print. Maybe that's why she likes leopard print so much in some of her clothes. A lot of polka dots.

Yeah, she just embodies it all. She's a tiger.

I don't know if it's from baking all them cookies and needing the dough. Her hands are strong. They were like, it's probably genetics because she did the Ancestry. Com thing and they came back and said she's got genes to be a sprinter and she's also a risk taker. Shout out to Ancestry. Com for doing that with mom.

All right, so.

Guys, I don't know if you want anything to do with mama. She might have a sweet disposition in the cameras. Don't get mama bear riled up. She'll come after you. If there are two bears, one cave, what.

Are we? I think you're a bear. You're a bear for sure.

Yeah, that makes sense. Is Tom still a bear? Tom's lost a lot of weight.

Yeah, but he's still a bear. He's a bear at heart.

He's a bear at heart. Bert's definitely a bear.

He can't run from it.

I wouldn't call you a bear. You're too spelt to be a bear.

You know what the hell? I'm a fucking yeti.

That's right. You're a yeti.

Yeah, I'm a yeti.

That's what you are. You're a.

Big yeti. Yeah, that's a yeti.

We're one bear, one yeti, two caves.

Yeah, because we're not in the same room. A bear, a yeti, and two caves.

So is this? Yeah. I don't know. We got to ask mom if she wants to fight.

Yeah, mom. A mom on mom's cage match.

Yeah, two. I'm telling you, good luck.

I'm taking the fucking Panther.

I'm not even getting in that match. Learned my lesson.

Shout out to Tom and Bert, man. We're big fans. I love the movie Machine. I don't know if you guys can catch that dude. Machine is great.

I was a big fan of that joke when I first heard it. The fact that it's now a full-blown movie is amazing. I've been a huge fan of Tom's stand-up since he was an actual bear.

Well played.

All right. And lastly in Philly's special Christmas album news, the NFL TikTok account among many sports media accounts shared a video of Jordan Davis singing, Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Here we are as in olden days.

Happy.

Golden days.

He had to get right, but he sounded awesome, man.

Dude, and yeah, we knew that he could sing. All of the rookie shows and on top of that, Jordan will just mess around in the locker room, like singing a melody or a chorus or something like that, a hook. We knew that if we could get him to muster up and show up for it that he would dominate and he did not disappoint.

Did disappoint. All right now.

For those of you that are still interested in listening to a Philly special Christmas album, that album is now available on anywhere that you stream music and you can still get the limited edition vinyls while they still last. They're available for purchase. Thank you to everyone who was supporting that project. Hopefully we can make a lot of families. Christmases a whole lot better here in the Philadelphia area. Before we keep going, we need to shout out our sponsor, Prize Picks. Prize Picks is a skill-based, real money, daily fantasy sports game, and it's the easiest and most exciting way to play daily.

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Fair.

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Nothing too difficult. I think Ellie asked for a dinosaur. We had Santa come by the house and she literally didn't say hi, didn't say anything. She just said, I want a dinosaur. That's fucking. It's pretty adorable. Wyattad asked for something too. I think she asked for Barbie. That's what it is, Barbie. Hopefully, Santa and Walmart come through on both of those. It can be tough finding great deals during the holidays, especially with our busy football schedules, which is why I love doing all my shopping online.

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Let's keep this thing moving. Let's keep moving. All right, now it's time to answer a few no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just two dumb people talking about them. No dumb questions is brought to you by our friends at Accelerator Active Energy. Nice. Accelerator Active Energy drink is available at Amazon, so make sure you guys get that thing sent right to your door. Hey, yo. First, no dumb question from Elizabeth Skagliati, if I said that right- I.

Think you nailed it.

That's good. You nailed it. 5, 7, 18. Can NFL players decline to be mic'd up for games? How do NFL players feel about it? And maybe is... Oh, this is maybe a no-dumb question. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely not a dumb question.

No, that's a good question. I like that one.

It's a fair question.

Yeah, you can-.

You can definitely decline it. You can decline to be mic'd.

Done many times.

Yeah, definitely done it before. You have two different reasons to be mic'd. The NFL could mic you and your team could mic you. But I'm pretty sure that you can talk to your team about what gets released on your mic'd up, I believe. That's pretty similar in all buildings.

Well, the way I've always understood is that if the NFL mic'd you, there's less control there than if the team mic'd you. Either way, being mic'd is a-.

It's quite a responsibility.

Yeah. Listen, a lot of things happen during a game. Emotions get heated. There are a lot of things said. The stuff that gets released during the mic'd up deals ain't half of the stuff that's being said on the sidelines, on the field, stuff like that. We try to keep... I think every team, and for the most part, the NFL tries to show the good parts of being mic'd up. I think they're going to avoid the controversial stuff, the the trash talk that's excessive. I think that's good.

Everyone's in unison and make the league look as good as possible.

Yeah, and I think that that's the right thing to do. But sometimes stuff does get come out, and that's why you got to let people know that you are mic'd up.

Which is hard to remember after the game. Yeah, it is. That's where all the personal conversations happen, right after the game. When you go up to somebody that you've known or somebody you just played against and stuff. What happened to Saquan and Peppers last week, I believe, came out. Peppers was being funny about something that at least said something to Saquan that he didn't want as public knowledge and-.

Yeah, it was supposed to be an A-B conversation.

Saquan being mic'd up and the giants seeing that. The giants released that footage and the Peppers look like he wasn't.

You just said it.

It was- Dude, it was- It.

Was like a delay. It was like, the giants released that footage.

Yes, and boom, giants released it. Let everybody know that Peppers thought his team was ass. That's messed up. That shit is messed up, man.

It's messed up. Yeah. That's why, honestly, I used to always decline being mic'd up. I did it for the playoff games because there's a lot of pressure with the documentary and us two playing each other and the Super Bowl and all that stuff that I wanted to have for the rest of my life. But for the most part, I do not like being mic'd up. I feel like I don't want to try and be any different and I won't be any different. I am open and honest.

You're terrified of the footage that could come out.

Well, I don't think I'm.

Terrified of it. Have you ever hit up the people in the organization that handle that stuff and been like, Hey, can I see the footage before you release anything and let you know what I don't want on it?

Yeah, I have a great relationship with all the PR people and they'll let me know if there's… There was one earlier this year where they're like, Hey, do you want this in it or not? Ultimately, I told them I didn't care and they didn't use it anyway, so it didn't matter.

I will say this, though. I love our PR at the chiefs. Man, Ted Cruz does a great job of making sure he looks out for us in situations like this. I love him for it. Shout out to Teddy Cruz.

I have found out that me and you are similar in the fact that we just yell a lot. I think we're big screamers. Yeah.

Something just gets energy.

You're much more quick witted. I'm more like not as funny than my Mike Dubs.

There's nothing going on up here. It's quick. There's nothing quick about what's going on up here.

No, you're instinctual. You're an instinctual man. I am not that fun to listen to Mike Dubs. The best guys on the Eagles from Mike Dubs are Fletcher, Cox, Brandon Graham, Darious Slay. I shouldn't even say it. Slay, and I'll put Lane Johnson in there, too. Those are the guys. If you're going to mic up anybody, those are... Oh, and the other sleeper is Slim, Devante Smith. Slim? Hilarious dude. Is he a good one? Slim Raper, he's a good one. What about you guys? Who are the best mic'd up on the chiefs?

I'm going to say Jet McKennan is always a fucking… He's always a good one. Then you can't go wrong with a mic'd up Patty Mahom's man. You're going to get some good moments.

That's awesome. Pat has some really good ones in the mic'd up clips.

Yeah, he's got some fucking awesome ones. Then Chris Jones, baby. Don't get me wrong. The old 95, baby, talking shit.

We found that out firsthand with the episode, how electric he is. But have they ever mic'd up Andy Reed for a whole game? That's a good question. Andy says a lot of funny-ass things, but he's just not in front of cameras or like a row.

With him. I would love to hear the unedited version. That's what I'm saying. He is saying something.

Fucking hilarious. I guarantee it a lot. It'd be gold content. Just have the chiefs do it and delete all the stuff that he doesn't want out there. That'd be awesome.

We got to get it done, Ted. Now I gave you a shoutout, Teddy Cruz, we got to get it done. Let's get it done.

And he's just a zero chance he's doing that.

Zero. Absolutely zero. Nice. Shout out to NoDumbQuestion. That was a good question. Then move on to JJ Soda Pop on the Club 92 website.

Jj Soda Pop. He's clearly not a Midwestern guy. Because wetry to say it. Right up pop. It's just pop. All right, good.

Why do some touchdown celebrations get fined and others do not? What is not allowed?

There are certain things that definitely aren't allowed. You can't use a prop. That is.

The big one. Except for a football. Football is the only prop you can use.

You can use the football, but you can't use the pie line. You can't touch the goalpost.

You can't- You can't- -grabbed a photographer's phone and did.

A- Do you hear that? I think that guy got... I don't think he's lying on the sideline anymore. They punish.

That guy. I think Tyreke looked out for him, though, and is helping him out. He did? Yeah. That's good. Tyreke either writes a good referral or he's making sure that he gets settled for accidentally getting him fired.

That's good on Tyreke.

It's a good man. It's a good man right there.

Yeah, but those are the big ones. You can't use pie lines. You can do choreographed ones, but they can't be long, right? Do you know what that.

Stipulation is? I don't think there's a time limit. I think you're just dealing with the play clock. The play clock.

As long as you get back for the-.

As long as you get the guys that aren't on field goal get off the field in time for the kick. I don't think there's like a time limit on- There's no- A little bit on. Yeah.

I thought there was like a time period.

I could be wrong about this. I could be wrong about this.

Well, you know more about touchdown celebrations than I do. Half the time I'm walking off the field because I'm trying to get my fat ass on the bench and get.

Some oxygen. No, you're over there celebrating. Don't act like you don't be in there celebrating.

Sometimes. If it's a big play and I still got fresh legs, I'm celebrating. But if it's after a groove drive, I am deep breathing my ass to the sideline, high-fiving people on the way to the bench. I don't think I've ever celebrated a Tush, push, or brotherly, shove, touchdown. It is like... I just scream and then yell off the field. Do you pre-plan your touchdown celebrations? Ever?

No, I think I did two when I was younger, one or two when I was younger. I'd get a haircut and the little kid will come up and say, Do the nae-nae or hit the quad or something. I'm like, Yeah, I'll do that.

You take suggestions.

I did. I'm like you now. When we score, I don't really have too much energy.

You don't take suggestions anymore?

No, I don't do any more suggestions. No suggestions box over here. No suggestion box over here. That might be fun. No. Why don't you take suggestions?

I don't take suggestions because I don't score touchdown, Travis.

Yeah, but you've probably done more touchdown celebrations this year than I have because you celebrate with everybody.

I've done none. What are you talking about? I haven't celebrated like.

Any of them. You got most.

With- I did do that one, yeah.

-and then you got another one from this year.

The dancer one was from last year where I.

Was like- Yeah, the dancer one was from last year, which is iconic one that everybody will remember forever. You did something else this year. I forget what it was.

I can't remember.

I think, yeah, I don't get what it was. Either way, 92% call his ass out. He definitely dances more than me. Yeah, I think you just got to feel it out, man. You get in the zone, you just feel the electricity of the moment and you just hit it. It's like getting on the dance floor and you're in a groove. You don't just like you just hit the fucking… You know what I mean? You just got to feel it out sometimes. You don't always got to have something planned.

It feels like there's a lack of creativity recently in touch. I feel like for a.

Few years there- Dolphins just I had a really good one. The rollercoaster one.

I didn't see that one.

I don't like those ones.

I don't like when it's like- It was a team.

It was good.

I'm not a fan of the that's overly done. I like when it's just one guy.

That's the basketball.

Yeah, the river dancing one or whatever they're doing with the Irish jig.

The opening scene to basketball. Yeah. That's good.

Great movie.

Fuck. What a good movie, man.

Yeah, I like it when it's just one person doing something funny. When it's two choreographs, thereI get it. This is over the top too much.

Well, thank you for that. No dumb question, JJ Soda Pop from A 92% on Club 92. If you had to rank your favorite cereals, what would your top five be? It's hard to just name five.

Fuck.

This is tough, man.

This is a good question because I've recently gotten back into the cereal game. Before I had kids, I probably didn't have cereal for a long time. It was completely removed from my diet.

Yeah, I never got away from cereal. I've always been going and getting some good 2% milk.

2%? I'm a whole milk guy now. We grew up on 2%, but I'm all about that whole milk.

Something about the childhood, the nostalgia of going up there and just getting that blue top.

Blue top? Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, let's start at five. What are you going with? You want to lead off? You want me to lead it off?

I'll jump on. I'll get after it.

All right, what's your fifth ranked?

Fifth ranked, man. Fifth can't be a fan favorite. It's got to be, for me, just a consistent, always good for me. That's Apple Jacks, man. I fucking love some good Apple Jacks, man.

Fuck. Great cereal. It is very good.

Great cereal, man. Apple Jacks, fucking….

I was thinking the same lines that you were thinking, but I was even going more basic.

That's Cherios. Cherios? Yeah, because I- But you got to hear my… Cherios are higher up there, though, because you can turn.

Cherios- You can get to the rest of yours. Let me do my number five, okay? I'm going to get Cherios because of the ability to dress them up. You can do whatever you want.

To them. That's why they're higher. They're higher on the list.

All right, well, we'll see what the fans think. I got them at five because as a standalone, Cherios aren't bringing much to the table, comparative to some of the other higher items. What are you paring about? From where they're at, I don't care if it's Honeynut. I don't even know if they make regular Cherios anymore. I've only ever had it. But you can put sugar on it, you put fruit in there.

We.

Used to.

Have so much. We used to have the freaking pot of fucking sugar.

I know exactly what.

You're talking about. Right next to where we used to make it.

That's under five because you have to add sugar to it. They're trying to be a little bit too healthy.

They snuck in frosted Cherios and fucking completely changed the game.

But those aren't as good. It's not as good as the dumping your own sugar on it. There's part of that process of dressing the cheerios up.

But then you dump the sugar on the frosted cheerios.

Okay, well, now.

You just add- Add strawberries and oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. All right. What's your- That's how you wake up in the morning, kids.

What's your four? What's your four spot?

Oh, man. Four is... Damn, this.

Is where it gets tight.

This is where it gets tough, man. I'm going to have to go to Captain Crunch Berries. I'm going to go to Captain Crunch Berries.

Captain Crunch Berries. If I was a child, I would have said the same thing, but I've gotten off of Captain Crunch Berries as an adult. But Captain Crunch Berries is good. It's a very good cereal.

Dude, it's so good.

Where are you going? I literally have... And I wrote mine down because I have my notepad that you made fun of me for. I have my list already made up. I have just regular Captain Crunch at number four. I didn't know if I wanted to put Captain Crunch Berries or peanut butter, Captain Crunch in the same spot. I like all three.

Oh, peanut butter, Captain Crunch is so fucking good.

I just went with the original.

That's fair. If you want to put all these into them.

I'm putting them all at number four. I still prefer on a standard, regular basis, old school Captain Crunch, even though it does cut the shit out of the roof of your mouth. It's delicious. What do you got?

Three. I'm going to say you can have Cherios in your top five. I don't want them in there, aka, I've fucked up my order and now I'm just going to leave them off. Lucky Charms. I'm going Lucky Charms. You can't beat the Marshmallows.

I think it's good. It's a good pick. It's a very solid pick.

It's hard for me keep it at three, but these next two, you can't beat these next two.

Yeah. Well, hopefully I have a feeling one of my… I think we're going to have some similar ones in the top three, but we'll find out.

Well, we grew up in the same house.

Number three, I got cinnamon toast crunch.

You just can't-.

Love cinnamon.

Toast crunch. It's got to be on the top five.

You don't think it's in the top five?

No, it's got to be. That's probably my number two. That's my number two.

Yeah, that's like the best just go to. You don't have anything else lying around. We're just putting milk in this thing and it's going to be.

Effin' delicious. Effin' delicious. Yeah.

Yeah, fucking delicious. Sorry. Forgot that we're trying to send kids to college. As to your Lucky Charms at number three, I have Lucky Charms at number two.

We just flopped. We flopped Captain Crunch and Lucky Charms.

I guess so, yeah. Where are you at? What's your number two?

Captain Crunch.

Captain Crunch? Nice.

No. So you have Captain Crunch, you mean Sinema toast? No, no, no. I'm about Simitose. Simitose. I got a crunch just.

Fucked up. That's fine. So two and three for both of us is Lucky Charms, Sinema toast Crunch. Number one, should we say it at the same time? If it's going to be.

The same one? It's 1,000 % the.

Same one. There's no way this is going to be like...

All right. Three, two, one.

Reeseas. Reeseas, peanut butter puffs. Dude, it's.

Undefeated, dude.

It's so freaking good. It's candy.

It's.

The best. It's just candy and cereal for.

I could eat a whole box right now. Literally an entire box. I could fucking put it in a popcorn bowl and just fucking add the entire gallon of milk to it and just walk it. It's so good. Just absolutely walk it. I will eat it. It will take me like three hours to do it, and I'll just be eating the saggy ones at the bottom that I still enjoy because the cereal is so fucking good.

Dude, I do think that there's like a magic. I think that I'm not a big fan of Reesey Puffs, dry. I like it medium, saggy to completely saggy. I think it's better when the milk starts getting into that. I think it's ridiculous that it's a cereal that you give children to eatreally like, Dad, can I have candy for breakfast? No, don't be ridiculous. You got to eat something that's good for you. Have some Reesey's peanut butter puffs.

Dude.

I don't really see that that's much different.

I'm just like, We used to have boxes of that.

That's because it was delicious. I think dad folded because he loves Reese's.

He used to sneak a bowl in when we left.

He really didn't like us eating Lucky Charms. But for some reason, Reese's peanut butter puffs he didn't care about it.

Peanut butter. It's got protein in it.

Yeah, that's the top five. You didn't put Kelsey's Crunch on the top five for you.

Yeah. Well, I think that's... Yeah, it's like putting yourself on your own Mount Rushmore. I learned my lessons, Jason I'm a coach. That's good.

Fair enough.

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All right, let's tee up some bold topics to wrap up week 13 in the NFL. Trav, let's get to.

This… Fuck this week, man. 49ers, 42, Eagles, 19. Jason, you want to hit me with any initial thoughts?

Yeah, we got our asses kicked. It wasn't a good performance. 49ers executed at a high level. They're a good team. Kudos to them for putting together a good game.

No, they got a lot of energy right now, man.

Yeah, they got good players, great coaches. They're on a good streak right now. Yes, sir. It was not a good performance by us.

Let's start with maybe some postgame quotes. You're in a postgame interview in quote saying, We're not good enough right now. We're disappointed in the way we performed, but I still have the utmost confidence in everybody in this locker room on both sides of the ball. Yep. Yeah. What happens after a game like this, man?

Well, you go watch the tape, you make the corrections. Listen, we have good players on both sides of the bowl. That's what I know. When you have good players, you can get things corrected. I know it was a awful performance. Not the way that we wanted that game to go by any means. I look at our receivers. I look at our quarter. I think the players are there. Did we play to our level? No. Part of that is you got to give credit to the 49ers. They played at a very high level across the board, offense and defense. I think our defense, obviously, it's not a great game for them. They started out hot, had two, three, and out drives to start. We went down in the red zone, didn't get touchdowns. Ultimately, I think that that was a big part of something that we could have capitalized on. We go down early, score touchdowns instead of coming away with field goals on those first two possessions, and we're up 14. I do think the game is a little bit different, but with the way they were playing on offense, how they were clicking, it was going to be hard.

The other thing that I think, I know the defense is catching a lot of flack right now, both sides of the bar, but the defense is obviously a rough outing for them. We got to do a better job, in my opinion, as an offense, of keeping them off the field. They have played a record amount of snaps through the last two games. In NFL history, no defense has played more snaps through two games than our defense. It's not fair to them. Now part of that is self-inflicted. They got to get off the field on third down. They got to make stops. But part of it is us putting drives together that maintain control of the game. I think that we haven't been consistent enough on offense. At times, we are there and we are clicking and they're great drives, but it's just not consistent enough right now. We got plenty of things to clean up on both sides of the ball. But the reason I still have confidence, I still think we have good players. I think we have great players, and I think we have great coaches. So to me, I know it's a very poor performance on our end, but I think that ultimately we're going to learn from this.

We're going to get better from it. The defense is going to correct the motions and things that screwed them up and gave them fit issues in the run game. Offensively, I didn't execute on two of the run plays. I know that the receiver, Jaylet, everybody's got stuff that they need to get corrected and that we will get corrected. That's why I still have confidence in everybody in.

Our team. As you should. As you said. Jaylen, post-game, talked about how you guys haven't played to the standard that you set in the culture that you set in the locker room. Then even Kevin Byard asked about the defensive struggles, and he said, Your culture is defined when things aren't going well. Man, oh, man, we heard that philly before, man. It ain't how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit. Sure enough, he's looking at how he can get better. That's exactly what this, his quote is saying at the end is, We'll see what type of culture we have and how we handle this. I mean, everybody's just saying the right things and you guys know how great of a team you guys can be. That's a tough one to lose.

In particular to what Kevin said, I think that's like I've said that exact same thing before, and it's so true. Everybody is having fun and connected and going well when things are going well. When you're winning games, shocker, people don't complain much. Whether you're getting the ball or not, you can't complain when you're winning games. When when all of a sudden you start losing, bad teams and bad cultures start to say, Well, this guy is not doing this, or I'm not being involved in that, or I'm not doing this. That guy is not doing that. Fuck that. All this means is everybody needs to try and look in the mirror and assess how they can, one, improve their own game, and two, how they can service their teammates and help them get better. It has nothing to do with who's at fault, why, any of that stuff. You make the corrections, don't get me wrong, you make the coaching points, but we move on, baby. We're going on to the next one. Fuck. Are we embarrassed about the way we performed? Absolutely. Not the way we wanted to have that game go. Credit to the 49ers.

They played a great game. They have a great team. We're going to move on to this next game this week. That's about it.

Well, it was a chippy game from the get-go, even in warmups, doing some extracurricular stuff. Ciriani was even fired up early on, as he's always fired up. Yeah, he's a fired coach. Yeah. Then during the game, obviously, I got a little chippy with Greg Greenlaw getting ejected. Our fan-favorite, Dom DeSandro, being a part of that. Yeah.

Big Dom.

Did you feel early on that it was going to be just a fistfight of a game?

Listen, we knew it was going to be a fistfight. Both teams wanted this one. 49ers have been excited to get this game on their schedule for a while. There's no question about it. We were excited about it. I don't think it was that chippy. I really don't. I think the guys were playing hard. Greenlaw was playing hard. She always does. She always does. She always does. Yeah, he's a good player. Listen, he's a good player for a Warrant. They have great players on their defense. I don't even think what Greenlaw did on the sideline was that. It was a personal foul, but it's like one of those ones where it's like, listen, he's on the sideline. He's trying to make a play and he's playing hard. I didn't think that it was that chippy. I don't think Dom meant anything. He was just trying to separate the two in the instance. Dom is not the first person, a coach, strength coach, staff member that has separated people on a sideline who are getting in each other's faces. I think nobody wanted anything to happen, right? I know Dom and I trust that what he was trying to do was just diffuse the situation.

When people are on the sidelines, people getting together, people try and separate them. I don't think it's a huge deal either way.

But whatever. I hear you.

That's my own feelings on it. But I always love when big Dom is getting here at time, even though this might not be one of the best reasons to. He's just he means so much to our organization and a guy that I think a lot of players love in this building.

Well, any final thoughts on the actual game, brother?

No, I mean, listen, we got to play better. I think that I like what Kevin said. When you lose games like that, you have to go back in and just see how to improve. Listen, they're a great team, and I know that we got taken to the woodshed, there ain't no question about it. But I didn't see our defensive line just getting obliterated off the ball. I didn't see our offensive line just getting crushed at the line of... I didn't see the things to me that are ultra concerning that we don't have the pieces to get it done or that we don't have the coaches to get it done. I think that it looks really bad. There's no question about it. But I still think we have great players and great coaches. Because I believe that, I think that we're going to make the corrections. I think we're going to get it fixed. I look forward to going out there. This is a beautiful thing about the NFL. We get to go out there against the Cowboys and show who we are next week. Nice. Until the season is over, you still get to prove who you are each and every week.

There's still another opportunity. We look forward to that this week.

I hear you, brother. Well, before we move on to my game, it's Howie season. That's right. Well, Monday the Eagles- It's always Howie season. The Eagles maybe got some good news in signing Colts all pro, former Colts all pro Shaquille Leonard to a one-year deal after he took a visit to Philly last week. That's right. Guys, unbelievable talent. Regardless of how the guys are that you have playing right now, what's their playing? Very good at Linebacker. Win-healthy and all that.

Yeah. Zach Cunningham has been awesome this year. We've had good linebacker play for the most part.

Having Shaq is, I mean, it's an addition to anybody's team.

It's a talented player.

Who knows what happens? Smart player, man.

Yeah. Smart, talented, experienced. I think that we're getting to the point in the season where having any amount of depth of players at any position means a lot. Hopefully, every team stays healthy, but that's not the way it usually works. Having another guy in there that is this quality level player, however he fits in, is going to be a net gain for the Philadelphia Eagles. He's super fired up that he's going to be in our building. I know a lot of guys saw him last week when he came in for his visit. I missed him, but really excited to get to know him. Yeah, that's about it. That's all I got.

Well, Shaq, welcome to the Eagles, brother.

All righty. You ready to get to this Packers game?

Let's do it.

Packers 27, Chiefs 19 on Sunday Night Football. Yeah, man, what are your initial thoughts from the game?

I'd said it after the game, and it's just hats off to the Packers. They executed better than us, man. We were in the game start to finish. Didn't end the way we wanted it to, but we still had a chance to tie it there at the end and go into OT. But in the first half, two possessions in the first half, man, the Packers did a great job of controlling the clock in a sense, but I thought we played pretty damn good in terms of moving the ball. We had a 13-play drive and I think a 14-play drive, both ending up in points, but getting down on the five-yard line and having to settle for a field goal is, that's the difference between 14-6 and 14-14 going into the third quarter. You know what I mean? So trying to score touchdowns instead of field goals is obviously always the game plan. But that's huge going into the second half where we ended up coming out the first drive in the second half and scoring a touchdown immediately. It felt like we were having success and that we really weren't getting stopped. But their defense was like that, that bend, don't break in the first half.

The second half were just limited of possessions, I feel like. We had one, three, and out. That felt like it was like, I don't know, one of the biggest drives of the game looking back on it. If we would have found a way to get a touchdown there or get points right there, I think it was at the end of the third quarter or even maybe in the fourth. But either way, there's going to be moments in the year that you get challenged more than ever, man. I think you've got to be able to grow through that. That goes back to what you guys are talking about over there in Philly in terms of the culture. I'm not worried about how everybody played. I think we got a lot of great character guys in this building that give a damn and want to get shit fixed, and we're going to get it fixed. That's never been a doubt in my mind. That's because of the headman, Andy Reed, setting the tone, setting the tempo, challenging guys, maybe even having to call a few guys out face to face. I love that shit, man. I love it.

I'm excited to get back out there tomorrow, get back at practice, find a way to bring the juice, bring the energy, help set that culture that we have in place, or help reiterate that culture. Like you said, man, just get an opportunity. We got an even bigger challenge this week going up against the Buffalo Bills. But do you want to go through this game, man? Whatever you got for me, that's my initial thoughts.

Second half, you guys are able to keep it close. It's always a game, and anybody's game for the taking. I'm not going to lie, I feel like whenever Pat gets the ball with some time left at the game, even though I think you guys are out of timeouts, I'm like, You know what? This could still definitely happen for him. But yeah, you guys get the ball, you're down 24:19 with a minute and nine left. It's just a lot of things that happen. You get the personal file, unnecessary roughness on Pat early. That was a little bit could have gone either way, I think, but benefit from that. Then you have the Rashe Fumble, which ends up not being a Fumble. But unfortunately, Pacheco gets the personal file on it. When it gets overturned, instead of being at the 30, now all of a sudden you're back closer to midfield, but you still got 49 seconds left. I'm not going to lie, the Valdez scantling won, and I'm not a big fan of complaining about referees. I think referees have a hard enough job, so I'm not going to complain about them. But this was a call that I think was probably missed.

I mean, it's textbook pass interference. He puts himself in between the defender and the ball. The defender has to go through his back. I don't know how this one isn't called. Even though I'm a fan of letting guys play, and maybe I shouldn't say it because Pat certainly doesn't want it said. He was quoted as saying at the end of the game, they let the guys play, and I'm all about that. You know what? I'm about that too. But that was a frustrating one, I'm sure.

Yeah, it was. You like to pride yourself on those situational football, like the end of game, end-of-half, those two-minute drives, how you're going to approach those situations with timeouts, without timeouts. There's so much that you go over in offense for those situations. We pride ourselves in being situationally aware, man. Going into that final drive, we had all the confidence in the world that we could score a touchdown, and we had a good two-point play in the holster. I don't know. It's frustrating the way it happened, but you got to try and keep yourself out of that situation. I keep looking at that first half and finding a way to get touchdowns. That third quarter deal where we had the three and out, I just feel like we have all the confidence that every single drive, we can put up points. I feel like we got all the guys we need, man. We just got to keep executing and keep finding ways to win these tight games, man. Sometimes it takes losing one, maybe two to figure out exactly how to come together in those situations. And I feel like that's what we're doing right now, man.

Yeah, in particular, I also liked your quote afterwards on the officials, I ain't going to blame this on anybody but ourselves. I think that that gets lost a lot of times because these crucial things happen at the end of games. People forget about the rest of the game. There were other opportunities that this call isn't in a position to decide a game, right? And I think that that shows that you guys aren't putting it on that because you had your opportunities. The chiefs had their opportunities. They didn't capitalize on them, and Green Bay capitalized on the ones that they had. Kudos to Green Bay. Jordan Love was making some...

I mean, absolutely insane. He's making some big plays.

He'll.

Put it up for these guys.

-put it up for these guys. Up in the air, I'm like, Dude, that is a… I don't know. That's a risk you throw to make, and it was falling in the right spot.

Yeah, he's going to give his guys a chance to make a play, man.

For sure. Yeah, I know you guys aren't happy with yourselves, but just reading how you guys are responding, I got no doubt you guys are going to come back with a reinvigorated effort to get things fixed and get back on the right track.

Just being in the building today, man, you can feel we're going to try and get back on track, man.

Well, LeBron stat for both of our games. Yeah, from User, Dryden, Don on the New Heights Reddit page, the LeBron stat is this is the first time both Kelsies played and lost since the start of New Heights Podcast, which that is definitely a LeBron stat.

100% that's a Bron... That is such a made-up nonsense stat. But yeah, that's perfect.

We're glad somebody's pointing it out this week, I guess. Yeah, just as I just said, this is the first time we've lost the other situations that have happened throughout the New Heights podcast tenure, now two seasons, 17 times plus two playoff games. We both have won during the podcast weeks. There are four times plus the Super Bowl where Kansas City has won and Philadelphia has lost. So essentially five losses that Philadelphia has had. Six times that Kansas City has lost, which is Philadelphia has won and KC has lost. One time KC is won with a Philly-buy. One time Philly is won with a Kand City-Buy. Both had a buy one time. Then, of course, this is the first time both have lost. Since the podcast has started, we do have a 97% win percentage, another LeBron stat.

That's the LeBron stat for real. That's the one that sounds real nice, looks real nice.

I'm not sure what it means. I guess it means that we both had two good seasons so far.

We got really good teams.

Not sure what the podcast has to.

Do with anything. Absolutely nothing.

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Moving on to some player insights and NFL storylines to round of week 13, why don't you get us going there, Jason?

Let's start with the rams. All right. The Browns have kept their playoff chance alive with a 36-19 win over the Browns and new quarterback, Joe Flacko, that's right, making his first start. The highlight of this game, however, was Myles Garrett getting himself into another helmet-related predicament.

This guy can't get away from it.

This time it looks like a completely incidental, not on purpose, helmet incident where he just got caught in the offensive lineman's face mask.

It's a good old just helmet to helmet football, baby.

It's happened before. Listen, when somebody comes with the force that comes at you, comes at you with the force that Miles Garrett does, sometimes when those helmets hit, they bend a little bit and they can get wedged in there. That's exactly what this looks like. It looks.

Like-.

100%. -it looks like it's in the side of the head, though. I wonder if he got a... Almost like it was getting- You got the blind side of there? -it looks like it's at a.

Weird angle. A little trap. Yeah. Just getting a little crunch block, a little crack.

Just take some time and pop them off and get back at it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we got a clip. Let's see how good we are at assessing the evidence. Let's see what this play look like.

Oh, their helmets.

Got caught. Look at that.

Nice.

It's way in the backfield, so I don't think it was a trap.

Looks like a pass. He also plays D&, so it might have been fucking just a crack. Toss crack.

Maybe he was dipping and ripping.

Miles got some good face time. How about that? Your helmet comes off. Always good face time, baby. You already know.

Hey! Keep killing it. Marketing that brand, brother.

There we go.

Cavz owner. Now that's a cool man. This dude is one of the owners of the Cleveland Cavaliers now, I believe.

Miles Garrett is?

Yeah.

That's.

Cool. Big Cav household over here, baby.

We were, yeah. Back when it was the gun arena. But yeah, still fans now that it is. You can be fired up into gun.

God, man. That's some good shit right there, boys. Back when we couldn't even feel that place. That's right.

That's.

Right. The tail end of Mark Price's years and the start of Ricky Davis, Darius Miles. There we go. There we go. Crazy up there in Cleveland, baby. Then we got The Witness, the chosen.

One baby. Don't forget to do this.

Big Z? I mean, we got a bunch of fan favorites. I mean, there are so many. So Wesley Person, if I couldn't miss. Tarrell Brandon. I could go down a rabbit hole of just Cleveland Cavaliers that people really don't remember being Cleveland Cavaliers.

Oh, my gosh.

Tragent Langden. Dawan Wagner was supposed to be like, the fuck he had to be scoring a hundred points a game in high school. New Jersey guy. Bobby Surah.

I'm not as big of a fan.

Bobby Surah, man. He was sweet. Floor State shooting guard, I believe. Who else was fucking sweet for the Cavs, man? Dogone. Early Carlos Boozer.

I said Boozer. I feel like he's not a fan favorite, though, because of the way he left.

Oh, another good one, Tractor-Trailer.

Tractor-trailer?

Which one is that one? Robert Trailer, Michigan University. I don't remember him. Wally Zerbiac and also an Ohio guy. Wally Zerbiac is a great one. Yeah, the Miami of Ohio guy. That's right. Man, we had some.

Good ones. Anderson, Verjow. There's been some electric guys.

Yeah, no question about it. Eric Snow, shout out to the Kent McKinley. We've had some good ones, man. We've had some good ones over the years. If we're going to say LeBron, we got to say shout out to K-Love, man. Kate Love, Kyrie.

Kevin Love, yeah.

Bringing the championship. Let's fucking go. Shump. Let's fucking go, boys. That's a good one. Fire me up. I was at the parade.

Commissioner, Roger Goodell, wants to permanently ban the brotherly shove. That's right. It's all coming to an end. Once the commission starts talking about it and saying he wants to get it done, it's going to get done, ladies and gentlemen. Mr. Goudell just made all our lives a little easier in the NFL outside of the New Bills organization. Per the athletics, Diana Rosini, shout out to Diana, Commissioner Gadell, reportedly wants the play removed from the game permanently. Banning the play would still have to be voted on by the competition committee and passed by the owners to vote on it. But three members of the competition committee come from Philadelphia's NFC East, rivals, according to the report.

Oh, rival. Yeah.

You guys are not too good for the newly brotherly shove, where you guys illegally push each other in the back. I don't know what's legal right now. It's not illegal. Jason, do you fully expect it to be banned next season at this point? I mean, are you just sick of the debate? I feel like every time we talk about this, you're just like, Fuck this.

Listen, ban it. I really at this point, I don't care. I'm over the discussion.

About it. To be fair, we would just be banning the push in the back. You got everybody to still be able to run the QP sneak, I think.

Well, that's where I'm like, whatever. We were really good at running Qobuz sneak before we did the push. I don't think that it's a necessary part for it. It certainly helps. There's no question about it. But I think, listen, I don't have the energy to care about whether it gets banned or not. We're going to run it right now because we're good at it and it's effective and whatever they do next season will figure out a way to do something at a high level and make it effective. I don't know. I mean, I don't think it makes sense to really worry about it. It used to be illegal to push the runner, then they changed the rules. They can push on defense. Yeah, I don't know. I get nothing.

I think you're right on.

Whatever they want to do. I don't know if it's for a health reason. I don't think a lot of guys get injured on it, so I don't think that's a good reason. If it's for an unfair advantage, we've already seen other teams do it at not as good of a success level, so I don't know that it's that big of a competitive advantage. I think that a lot of it is going to get banned just because, quite frankly, a lot of coaches and defensive coaches in particular don't want to have to defend it. It's a high percentage chance that it's going to work. They've complained enough that now people want to see it gone. At this point, I'm not really going to get into it too much. I get both sides of it, whatever they want to do, I don't.

Not going to bother. What's crazy is they change fucking rules like this all the time. We used to be able to cut out in the open. We used to be able to just drop cut DBs and linebackers as long as we were going downfield. It's like when they stopped doing that, it was like, Damn, that's going to eliminate a lot of big plays because getting a guy off of his legs and on the ground is a huge advantage to have, especially in space.

I was against that change too, because first of all, there just weren't that many guys that got hurt on cut blocks. It happened. I mean, Bryan Cushion got cut from behind, and it was a big deal. I mean, it towards ACL is a bad play. I get why you.

Want to- It's clipping. But I.

Get why there's a health perspective where they're trying to make the game and players look out for safety, right? But in my opinion, when they took out cut blocking, all that does is because who is the perfect person to cut? Somebody who's running out of control. If somebody is in control.

You can't cut that person.

Now all these guys have to do now is just run as fast as they want, and there's no repercussions for them being out of control. Before, it's like, Hey, you want to be out of control? I'm going to cut your legs out from underneath you. It slows it down. Now these guys are taking bigger hits up top potentially. I don't know that it gets what you're trying to have accomplished whenever you get rid of these things. But regardless, listen, you play with what you have. Everybody's out here doing it for good reasons. If they do ban the brotherly shove, there will be a good reason behind it that the commissioner wants to get done. I think that whether people agree with it or not, it is what it is, and we move forward. Yeah, cut blocking got removed. It happened for both sides. Now, tackles can try and run through cornerbacks chess because cornerbacks aren't allowed to cut the tackle in space. You move forward.

Yeah. Do you play the game? Let's play it.

We were 36 for 38 running quarterback sneaks before the push. Brian Spaudinger released a video. Shout out to Baldy. Baldy breakdowns. Baldy released a video last week, I think, referencing the fact that the Tushpush gets a lot of the hype. But ever since Jeff Statlin has been here, we've been pretty darn efficient on quarterback sneaks just around the 92% mark, if I don't say so myself.

All right, man. Let's keep this thing moving now, brother.

Hey, college football.

Dude, this is crazy.

Rarely do we get into college football, especially stuff that doesn't include the Cincinnati Bearcats.

Shout for the Bearcats, baby.

There's some very controversial things happening in college football playoffs. This is true. That's right. The selection committee named their top four seeded college teams that would be competing in the college football playoff. Number one, Michigan. Number two, Washington. Number three, Texas. Number four, Alabama.

Wow, the SEC champs. Yeah.

That's where things got a little controversial because Florida State was left out of the college football playoffs despite being undefeated and winning the ACC Conference. Alabama, who did win the SCC, got in, unfortunately, having one loss. Now, I don't know that there is a right answer to this.

Because in.

My heart of hearts, I think the SEC champion should be in the college football playoffs because the is by far the best conference in football. I think it's not fair, in my mind, to leave an SCC champion out of the playoffs. This is the problem with the playoff situation. No matter how many teams you have, there's going to be somebody usually that has a case for being in it. This year, very high case for the state. The biggest reason I have an issue with this is I just don't like the reason they gave for Florida State not being included. The College football playoff committee chair, Bo Corrigan, explained the decision on ESPN. Florida State is a different team than they were the first 11 weeks. If you look at who they are as a team right now without Jordan Travis, without this offensive dynamic that he brings to it. They are a different team. I don't care. Did Florida State earn the right to go into the playoffs? I don't care who's their quarterback now. I don't care who their coach is now. That team and that group of players, did they earn the right to go there?

That's the only reason I have an issue with the reason they gave. I don't think it's a fair word. I mean, if they're backup quarterbacks, nick Foles, it might lead to some magic happening there in the playoffs of college football. But I think I'm also not criticizing any of the teams that are in there. Again, I think an SEC champion should be in the college football playoff. You can't have a genuine college football playoff without having the SEC championship in it.

Yeah.

I hear you. Texas, obviously, intern Brandon, big Texas guy. He's added words to the rundown to really try and get us to hype up Texas. Not going to do it, even though Texas had a really good season. Washington, let's pack 12. Yeah. All right, we'll see. Michigan obviously winning the big 10, beat in the Ohio State. Listen, everybody in there is deserving, and it sucks that Florida State is getting left out. But I'd be pretty pissed if I was a Florida State fan. There's no question about it.

Yeah, no, I hear you.

Or a Florida State player.

I'd be furious. If I was a player there, I'd be pretty fucking pissed.

I'm on the team. I just did all of these games. We as a team won them. Now all of a sudden, you're going to say that we don't get in because we didn't earn it. That one of our players is out, so we're no longer in it. I don't think that's.

That's whack. That's whack. That's whack. Wack-ass excuse. But damn, I'm ready for this Galas football playoffs, man. I think this is probably about as even as it's been across the board since they started this thing up.

Yeah, I don't know who's going to win.

We shall see.

Obviously, intern Brandon's pulling for Texas. Are you pull him for anybody?

Man, don't really have any Washington ties. Don't really have any Alabama ties.

You just want good games.

You got some ex-Texas teammates that I love, like Jamal Charles and Derick Johnson.

Yeah, but don't give interim Brandon that. Don't give it to him.

But damn, I mean, being an Ohio kid, man, there's something about Michigan. I wanted to play hockey at Michigan.

Growing up. You were a Michigan hockey fan, which is hard to do in Ohio.

It is. I always thought outside the box when it came to who I was written for. All right, I was still an Ohio State fan, though. That's what was crazy. I eventually... I was always a big Ohio State football fan, but when it came to hockey, I just love the fact that Michigan had the-.

You like the helmets? That's what you like about Michigan.

Yeah, the helmets. Fashionista.

Well, either way, yeah, I hope they're all good games. Sorry for all you Florida State fans out there that you're getting fucked.

Yeah.

All right, New Heights stamp of the week.

That's.

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Yeah, I'm doing a familiar face, and that's Jaguars head coach, Dougie P, baby, and his son.

Hey-o. Josh Peterson, man. Dougie P got to coach his son in a game, and he's the first father-son combination since 1978 in the NFL. Whoa. His son,tight-end. Shout out to tight-end you. Josh Peterson made his NFL debut. Josh Peterson was elevated from the active roster or elevated to the active roster for the Bangles Jaguars' Monday Night Game. He made his debut under the lights, baby. That's what I'm talking about. He was previously on the Jag's Practice squad and is also a product of the USFL, which he joined the team in July from the USFL.

Nice. There we go, Josh. I'd love.

To see a guy taking his game to new heights on Monday night, baby. They almost came out with a big dub too, man. Game one and the OT. It was a good one. Who you got, Jason?

I'm going to go with the opposite end of that spectrum, which is the Bangles quarterback, Jake Browning. That's right. Everybody's up and arms with the Joe Borough injury as they should be. He's a phenomenal player. He led the Bangles to a 34-31 overtime win against Jacksonville on Monday Night Football. Obviously, we talked about the Trevor Lawrence injury, but I don't know that has much to do with Jake Browning playing a phenomenal game, 354 passing yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. Browning's 354 passing yards is the most by a Bangles quarterback this season. He also had an 86.5 completion percentage. He's the 10th player in the Super Bowl era to throw for 350-plus with a completion percentage of at least 85 % in the regular season. He had a great game.

That's pretty much what we're saying. That's what I just heard. Yeah, he just had a really good game.

Nice. Shout out to Jake Browning. Yeah, man. I know obviously the.

Bangles- It's a good football team. He just did that too, man.

Yeah, and the Bangles have a great team. The Jaguars, they sure got a great team. That's a crucial game for them as they're trying to stay in the playoff hunt here.

Shout out to Jake.

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We don't want to take out me saying 400 countries. I just assumed if it was 134 that there's like some much larger amount of countries. There's so many ones over there in Asia that I just cannot keep track of in Europe.

I just don't remember anybody teaching me this information.

All right, cool.

Just a bunch of dummies over here. I think it's four. Four got to be 400. I'm going to say 300.

You're such an idiot.

That's a lot. I'm going to say 300. No, you're fucking...

I was only off by twice the fucking amount of actual countries.

When you think about it, you feel even dumber because you're like, There's no way. There's 10 countries per condemn.

I felt stupid saying 400, but I just felt like if it was 134 listening to us, there's got to be like an astronaut. We can't be listening.

We can't be.

Half the world.

Listening to us.

Apparently, there is.

That's crazy.