Thank you so much for hopping on the Christmas album last year. Oh, yeah, I know you talked to, like, Connor.

I was so surprised as an Eagles fan to receive an email signed, Connor Barwin. He really is in this department. Are we doing. Is this live?

It is, I think, technically recording.

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He's the executive producer and star of Dave on FXX. In his own words, his dick is made of balls or skin, I think, but he's built an entire tv show around the subject. But most importantly, he's a massive Philadelphia sports fan.

Hell, yeah.

And was featured on the Dreidel song on our last Christmas album, the Eagles Christmas album. Making his new heights debut, please welcome.

It'S the one and only little Dickie baby. Is this a common thing that people do, or no?

I think so. We'll do it now.

It is. Guys, it is such an honor to be here.

Truthfully, dude, it is an honor to have you.

We were so fired up when we found out you were coming on, and, yeah, it's long time overdue. Long time overdue.

I'm so thrilled to meet new men. I just really. I've never admired two men from afar. More so it's like. It feels. Now I feel less weird loving you guys so much, having never been in the same room as this.

Just know it's reciprocated.

Yeah. Thank you. Ever since we can all get. Once I saw you, I was like, that's my longest brother.

I felt that way ever since I saw footage of you speaking, man, I really. What a dancer.

It's incredible. He's so talented.

Yeah.

Yes.

Both of you, first question. As serious journalists, which we are not, and I just read whatever the fuck's on this prompter. We want to get this right. Do you want to be called on this podcast, little Dicky ld Dave Young Dick, Mister Leftward. Sloppy penis.

Sloping. Sloppy, sloppy sloping slope.

Now I can't read. I put you in a bad position.

With that white Jesus, the urologist, which might be my favorite. Cheese dick. That might be the one right there. Yeah. Let's go with cheese dick. My friend's cheese dick. So I'm sticking with the urologist if you're gonna let me.

The urologist is cool. I like that it has, like, the. In front of it, but Dave also works really well. All right. Dave's cool. My preference, but I love that. Thank you for that.

But just mentioned that you were on the Eagles Christmas album last year. Yeah. What was your initial reaction, I guess when Connor emailed you to come on the album?

First off, you gotta realize I'm, like, a true Eagles fan. So to just receive an email, like an administrative email, signed Connor Barwin CD, I was like, whoa. And I felt really cool just receiving that email. That's how much I. The best part of me, like, being a successful entertainer, I always say, is that I get to actually meet and have relationships with these professional athletes. There's nothing that feels better to me in life than being at a night club and Embiid's arm is around you.

That's nuts.

You know what I mean? Or getting an email and administrative email from Skydiver Barley and that fell into that same bucket. And I got the email. And first off, I see everything you guys do, but I saw it when you watching Jordan even sing like, that voice. Like, it was just like, I was right there with you guys watching the whole thing unfold, and I was just so honored to even be reached out to, and I was like, what Christmas song are they going to want to? And then it was the hot. It was the Dreidel song, and then I heard it, and I was like, this is so good. And I didn't even want to like, do too much. I really barely did anything on it. I just introduced it and, like, really sang a few background vocals, but he.

Loved every second, every single.

You guys had it covered. And a true honor to be. I, like. I literally, I wrote down sometimes, like, I write down cool things that I can say as a rapper in the future. And I wrote down that I was on a song with you.

No way.

So that might come in a rap later.

We need it. We need it.

What did you think of Howie Roseman? Do you think he has a future in the music industry? Well, before we get to the very professional interview about to do with Lil Dicky, we're gonna start with a little, as we always do, new news. That's right.

You want to hear new news in your own style.

New news.

That was gangsta. Thank you.

Right, Dave, latest news. Fans of Dave, obviously.

Yeah.

It was recently announced that you're taking an extended hiatus from the show.

Yeah.

And you've also just released your new album, Peanuth, which is, I believe, a soundtrack from day eight.

That's right.

Can you share what you're doing next?

Yeah. You know, I obviously love the show. It's a dream to make that. Thank you. And I'm thrilled that you guys even watch it. But, no, it just, like, there's so many things I wanna do, just whether it's making music, writing movies, developing other shows that, like, when I'm making the show every season, the amount of work that a season takes is truly. It's unbelievable. I didn't even expect it. I'm a hard working guy.

You're hands on, too.

I am hands on. I think it's cause I'm so hands on that it causes all the work.

Yes, I'm sure. Yeah.

Like, because, you know, in the writer. I'm in the writer's room, and then I'm, like, in every scene, and then I'm like, the guy editing it.

Like, you're writing, producing, directing, editing.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's a lot of shebang, the whole shebang.

And then, which is a thrill. I, like, I'd much rather be in control and, like, you know, being. Doing things that I'm passionate. But, of course, like, there are just. I don't want to just do the same thing over and over again every year. There's just other things I want to do. So I'm excited about all these different ventures I'm finally getting the time to focus on that I wouldn't have had in season.

What brings you more joy? Writing a great song or a great scene.

Yeah.

I'd say right now they hold similar levels of joy.

Cool.

Which is a lame answer.

No, it's not.

It's not. It is not lame. And I will fucking fight anybody that says, yeah.

No. Right now, I think when it comes to. I think I'm more naturally good at writing scripts and tv and film than I am as a. I really feel like rap was, like, I 10,000 houred my way into, like, getting to where I feel like I am then. Even now, it's more of a cr. Like, when I write a scene now, it's pretty much always good when I write a song. I wouldn't say that's the case. You know what I mean?

Okay, I got you.

But that honestly makes it me even happier when I make a great song. Cause, like, I value trial and error. Yeah, it's more kind of like, songs are just like, random throws of paints that come out and, like, there's so many different factors that can contribute to this random outcome of, like, the way it makes you feel where scenes are more granular and you can really kind of dictate the outcome more.

Yeah.

Interesting.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Well, I'll tell you, some of my favorite scenes are when you go into your songs.

Sure.

Because those are fucking epic, dog.

Yeah.

No, let's talk. Let's talk a little bit more about the tv show Dave and just your tv career itself.

Yeah.

Last season ended with an incredible episode. We're in a hostage situation with Brad Pitt, man. How cool was it to get Brad Pitt on set?

Coolest experience.

How did that even come about? Nothing's cooler. Was it just like a administration email?

Dude, it was a cold email. I literally have never met him.

Yeah.

Shout out to Brad for answering his email, man.

First off, damn it, I love both of you. And we've known each other for, like, five minutes. Brad Pitt is definitely the coolest guy I've ever met in my life. I've never met anybody.

I take zero offense to that.

Zero. You never know. He seems cool, but sometimes guys have Personas that are really cool, and you meet them and they're shy or just not fun to hang out with. This guy was the man.

I believe it.

And he was so nice to everybody on set. I met him. Unfortunately, the moment he walked on set, I was filming the scene where the stalker is creating a cast mold of my lower half. So I literally have to meet Brad Pitt fully naked, covered in sludge with my dick outline visible, and I have to go and make this shit worm out to meet Brad Pitt. He responded to my email with a truly iconic response, metaphorically saying he would be there to the point where I didn't know if it was real or a joke or what. And even then they asked his asians, is this real? They were like, yes, but even you have to see him show up to believe this is actually gonna happen, that Brad Pitt is gonna come on my tv show. He hasn't done tv in 30 years. And it isn't like a brief cameo where I see him in a bar and say, hey, Brad. And he's like, yo, he was there shooting four nights from 08:00 p.m. To 07:00 a.m., like, just giving me every single hour. Like, you know, I gave him every out to, like, you know, the way you shoot a scene, like, if I was shooting a scene with you right now, they would shoot your coverage over my shoulder.

Then they'd shoot my coverage over yours. I got a man that looked just like Brad from behind wearing the exact same clothing that Brad would wear. And I gave Brad every out, like, you know, you don't have to wait around at 03:00 a.m. To shoot my coverage. Like, he was in, and he was like, I would never go, what a genius.

Oh, my gosh. He was insulted at the question.

I love him enough, man.

Yeah, that's a tremendous person.

But truly, like, I've never felt like I made it more like Brad Pitt is the LeBron Michael Jordan of filming. And for him to, like, and, like, I'm sitting with him on set and I'm giving him, like, direction, and he's respecting my opinion and believing in my vision. There's nothing more gratifying as a filmmaker, like, ever. I couldn't believe it. I'm thrilled. I'm so thankful. I love you, Brad.

Us too.

Yeah, we too.

Yeah, me too.

We second that. Well, you've been joined by all sorts of incredible guests on the show. Brad Pitt, obviously. Then Drake had his unbelievable appearance. Usher, Rachel McAdams, Don Cheadle, Kevin Hart. The list just goes on and on. Which, I mean, which one were you, like, most surprised you could, like, get them on the show or on set?

Rachel McAdams.

I was about to say that was the one that was the most shocking.

Yeah.

I don't know why. It just, like, I don't, you don't see your dude, like, stuff like that. I feel like often. Yeah, never. I don't think I've ever seen that. Right.

And she falls into that same category, like, when we grew up, like, who is, like, the leading woman in all the movies that, like, developed our thoughts of love?

Yeah.

It's truly Rachel McAdams, you know? And for her to be a fan of the show, come on. Again, not like a scene in a bar saying, hi, she's a three episode arc. Yeah, I'd say rachel, but, like, you know, I mean, there are certain things that I'm like, man, like, I'm so happy I'm getting Don Cheadle to fart so far.

Are you more starstruck by, like, a Philadelphia legend in the sports world or, like, an entertainer?

Why are you looking over here?

I was just asking if you're asking.

If I'm more starstruck when I saw him compared to, like, usher. I was usher. It's true. But I get it. I get it. But you're also. You're a weird professional athlete to me, where I find you so incredibly relatable.

You know what I mean?

In a way. Like, I think I would be really starstruck by Alan Iverson. You know what I mean? But there's something about you that I feel like I've been your best friend our whole life or something, and I felt that way as a younger guy watching you. And I think that's one of the reasons Philadelphia probably loves you so much, is because you really feel like one of the people.

Yeah. I appreciate that.

It's not even a good thing.

I don't even know. Right. You just come off, like, unathletic and sloppy.

Thank you. I'm trying.

Real strong.

Yeah. Fans know that a lot of your show, Dave is based around your actual life. How much of Dave is a reality, and how much have you kind of, like, tweaked in terms of the fiction?

It felt like season one for sure was.

Yeah, that's where really.

Well, how about this? I'll let you answer the question.

Please take it up.

You guys really do relate. I'll tell you what.

I've known him for five minutes. Season one was definitely the most true to his soul. It's hard to quantify. I'll say this. A lot is certainly really from my life, but a lot is, like, there are. I have a whole writer's room of people who've lived similar lives or had their own experiences, and we pull from their lives or we just make things up, because sometimes the funniest thing to do is to make up Don Cheadle farting in a bathroom at the Met gala. I've never actually been to the Met Gala in a way, my character on the show has actually surpassed me in real life as far as achievement, which is kind of a bummer, but I think it's because I take so much time making the show. But regardless, I think that as time goes on, I like to experiment more. And I think I entered the show not even knowing the type of mark I wanted to make as a tv film movie guy. And it's just evolved to a place where I care so much about filmmaking and being a true director and filmmaker, to the point where now I look at Dave as an opportunity.

Because every episode can be its own thing. I can be like, why don't I make this a horror episode and totally see what it's like to make a mini horror movie? And then why don't I make a psychological thriller with Brad Pitt and hostage with a gun? Things can get a little more unrealistic when I'm experimenting in genres like this, but I think that's my.

When did film get in to play here? Were you always into directing?

I didn't know I'd be a director at heart, but I always loved movies. And when I thought about my life, I definitely thought, I want to be the next great comedian. And when I imagined what that looked like, I never imagined myself on stand up stage with a mic.

You never imagined?

I never did it. Never did it.

Never.

Santino, like, snl or anything, I loved and respected at stand up. For whatever reason, I just, like, saw, like, Adam Sandler and happy Gilmore or, like, will Ferrell. And I'm just seeing all these, you know, there's this murderer's row of comedians that, like, when I was a kid, when you guys were kids, r rated comedies were, like, the thing that, like, drove everyone's attention. And I just thought those guys never were anything other than everyone's funny friend when they were my age, you know? And I was like, I can do this. So I answered just, like, with, like, without knowing. But then, as I did it, I surprisingly started caring so much about, like, tone, an esthetic, and, like, I can't even like a scene now, like, when you talk about season one, there are a lot of the funniest things from this show in season one, but I also think there are a lot of the worst looking scenes, like, just visually now, I don't think people necessarily give too much of a shit about that.

But you do.

But I do. And I only am caring more and more and more to where?

Nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know. I just like the art.

Is that the same way in music as well, where you like, in a different way.

Like, yes. I definitely look back at all my own music, and I'm like, what was I thinking? I sucked. Like I'm a loser.

And I do that about my game film.

I was about to say the exact same thing.

I'll watch myself and just be like, God damn it. I'm gonna get fucking cut.

Why was I doing that? Why was I putting my hand there? It's so stupid.

Yeah. I mean, with me, with music, I was oftentimes, early in my career trying to just say something outrageously funny to get a laugh and really was driving my song topics around viral comedy moments. Whereas now, if I can make a song without being funny that I like, I'm probably even more proud of that than a funny song. But still, as you guys can probably tell if we hung out, I try to make you laugh all the time. It's just who I am as a person. So I think I'm always gonna have comedy infused in what I do. I'm not gonna just ever be, like, a stone cold, depressing drama guy. But I think when I came into it, I was like, I wanna make super bad, which is, like, definitely a top three favorite movie of all time for me.

So fucking good.

But now I think, like, I want to make the social network okay. Which is also a top three movie of all time for me.

Yeah.

They're both so good.

I respect.

Or maybe a hybrid between the both of them.

Yeah.

That'd be kind of the sweet spot that I'd look to hit.

That's dope.

Yeah.

I just mentioned Santino, my favorite comedian out right now.

So funny.

When I heard of you is on the show. I fucking got real jacked up. We've been trying to get him on the show. He's been kind of big time. And is this. Whatever saying. I say he's got a lot of. He's got a lot of movies out right now. He's still doing stand up, which he's the best at, and playing nine. Yeah, that's. I played more golf with him.

Yeah, I get.

He got to keep that swing active, baby.

Yeah.

Do you think he's dodging us at this point? Maybe.

I think he's so. He really is always, like, every time I show him, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm in Albuquerque. Like, I'll be back. Like, he's, like, always. He loves. He loves touring and being out there and hitting the road, but I'll never forget when I met him in an audition room. I didn't even know about him until I sat in the room early. When I made the show, I was in all the callbacks, and he just.

Wooed you, didn't he?

He just came in there. No competition. Never was there a more clear cut choice of this guy that was supposed to be my best friend, manager character. I fell in love with him instantly. So funny. And I threw everything in my show. I would do a lot of improv. I think the funniest. Not only the funniest, kind of the realest and most, like, soulful organic moments can occur if you really are, like, being off the cuff. And, like, there can be a sentiment that we're obviously going for, but it's gonna be better if we say it in different ways every time. Cause it'll be, like, more truthful to the moment. So, in the audition process, I like to really throw things at people like, that aren't on script. And that guy did not miss a beat.

That's the specialty right there.

He's the only person that makes me break where, like, I'm trying to do a scene, and I just. He says something, and I'll ruin the scene because I laugh. He's so funny.

One of my favorites. All right, well, Santino, I will keep begging you to come on the show. You've been on his whiskey, ginger baby.

You're on it.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, then you know what you're doing.

Yeah. I wore really short shorts, and my nuts were showing the entire time. It was a fun interview because I got to hang with Cheeto for a little bit.

Yeah.

So I'll probably play around to golf before you come on here. So we'll just talk about it when we're at Lakeside.

Baby, you're making him seem so unattainable. I don't. Yeah, I'm not sure he deserves this level of unattainability.

I'd love to do so much. I just pop him up. After the first season of date premiered, though, LeBron publicly endorsed the show on Twitter. I mean, how fucking cool is that?

I feel like I've said too many times this interview, like, the coolest thing that's ever happened to me. But really, I gotta be honest. I swear to God. Like, a part of me, like, evaluates my life pre and post LeBron reaching out. Like, I swear to God, I've never. That was. That was the moment. I always. It's so lame. I can't believe I am this way. You shouldn't be this way. But I always said, like, none of this is even successful. Until LeBron acknowledged, I would go to games, I would seek his gaze, you know, I would get nothing. And when he, like, you know, he publicly tweets about it, I look at my DM, there's like this. He's like, hey, man. Like, the back and forth, like, motivating each other. I don't know if I motivated him, but, like, maybe I did. But, like, for LeBron James to sit and watch a series about my life, there's no. I mean, that guy. I have so much. I told you guys that I have so much respect from afar, but that guy, like, the expectations northeast Ohio guys, man. You know what I'm saying? I guess so.

I guess so. There's just something about him that is, like, anyone that dislikes LeBron James is such a loser.

I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.

I mean, I so, like, all he.

Does is do the right thing.

We felt the exact same way. He tweeted at us, and I saw that practice, and as I'm coming off of the practice field, I'm like, a schoolgirl with, like. Like, somebody has some hot gossip. Like, hey, you know that, like, the hottest guy in the world thinks you're sexy.

He is the hottest. It's crazy. It's crazy. What a feeling.

So cool, man.

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Yeah.

What. What did you start rapping about back then?

I did. There was this, like, I had to do a report on Alexander Pushkin, who is a Russian.

Yeah.

Honestly, he was, like, a russian poet, I believe.

Oh, nice.

Okay.

And I don't know why I did it. I just, like, delivered it via rap, and it just really went over well. I got, like, a great. I got an a. Got an a. And then I kind of thing I've ever done.

Yeah.

I kind of, like, kept that in the back of my head. I've always loved creative writing or whatever. And, like. And then, like, when I graduated college, for example, like, I had to do another, like, boring, right? Yep. Thank you. I was gonna say it, but I was gonna ask top of the class, but I got this job at an ad agency, and I wasn't even in the creative department. I was actually in, like, the administrative business, like, side of it. And I had to do this really boring report on chip sales because I was on the Doritos account. But it was my one time where I sent an email to the partners at the company, and I was like, you know, a young, ambitious guy trying to get noticed in this ad agency. So I delivered, instead of it being a word document about the data, I just delivered it as a wrap. And, like, they went crazy at my ad and they switched up with these.

Fucking you and emails, man.

Yeah, it's true.

I didn't know emails work.

Like, they work really well.

I haven't been answering any of them.

And then, like, I just saw, like, I literally saw, you know, like, everyone freak out about this funny comedy rap about, like, chip sale data.

Yeah.

And I always wanted to be a comedian, as I told you guys. And I was like, wait a minute. Like, why don't I, you know, if people are loving this boring, data driven rap, like, why don't I actually take my good comedic ideas and rap? Like, at the time, there was only, like, the lonely Island Andy Sandberg guys. And I was like, look at what they've got no competition. They're so wild.

R Yankovic was childhood, but he was.

He was really past his prime at this point. I love.

Was he kind of weird Al?

For sure. I loved weird Al.

Same.

I loved weird Al. Yeah, for sure.

But amish paradise.

Oh, my God, there was like five. Like, eat it. Yeah, eat it. Eat. It was great. He was really impressive. He had a great run. I, you know, I was. I. Then that's when I started doing the funny comedy raps, and that's what really took off for me and got me.

Noticed in a song of yours. And in your show, Dave, you start your rap career with your bar mitzvah money.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's an actual story.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

So dope.

Yeah, I got, I think it was like six grand, which is amazing, like, at 13 years old, that I was never allowed to touch. And. And then I was, like, 24. And I still, I don't know how the, I don't think I had, like, access. I don't even know how my accounts worked at that. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So I called my parents and I was like, I, you know, do I.

Have access to this?

And they were like, no, you can't spend it. And I was like, why? And they were like, you're saving that money for a reason. And I was like, for what? I was like, my two options are this. I can spend that money on a really nice sofa from my next apartment, or I can pursue my dreams.

It's a good way to sell it.

Yeah, it worked.

It worked. It worked.

I got access to the account. I got the funds sent over to me, and then what I did was I found the guy who was doing all the rap videos in Oakland, Brian Storm. And we made, like, six different $1,000 videos. And they were all, like, really great. Like, I. Fuck, yeah. My first time doing anything with, like, a camera or. And we just, like, winged it and figured it out, and it was so fun. And then those really succeeded immediately.

Yeah.

And then I did a Kickstarter to raise $113,000.

Yeah.

What I did was I accumulated enough online assets. What I did was, like, I, for two years, slaved away and made videos, made more raps.

Shoe dog, you were selling shoes out of the back of a van.

This is sweet. And I didn't even show anybody because I didn't want anyone to deflate my hope.

Sure.

I was just like, I believe that. I'm like, the next kanye. Let me just roll with that attitude because it's gonna be helpful as I get things done. And I worked really hard, didn't put things out when they were done. I saved it because I thought the best way to roll this out is to have some sort of system where everyone knows when to check for you. It's same with you guys right now. You see how it works. Consistency is key. So I built up five months of material, all while working at this ad. I wrote all my raps in my cube. Really? People actually stopped giving me work.

It sounds like you weren't working.

I wasn't really working. I caught a real nice wave.

Your vibes will keep you alive.

I was there early, though. I was there early, and I was there listening to one good email a day. I would write these raps, and then I created all the content. Then once a week, I'd put stuff out. Luckily for me, the first day I put anything out, the thing got, like, a million and a half views, which was a dream, because I had this. I was about to start putting it out there.

First day.

First day. Such an I told you so moment. My parents, on the record, pulled me aside and said, like, we just want to sit down and have this conversation that we think you are making a huge mistake.

Oh, no.

And we think you're throwing away your career and you're putting this material out about, like, your dick and, like, you have a job. It's a good job, and you're gonna ruin your life. And so just day one, to be.

Like, you're like, copy, post, send.

Day two, I'm not kidding. TMZ hit me up, and I did an interview from my cube with that guy Harvey or whatever. I don't know.

That's wild.

And then next week a new one. Next week a new one. Then I ran out of money and material, but it was five months straight of the best I had to offer. I accumulated a fan base of, like, I don't know, probably, like, 100,000 people. I said, I want to do a Kickstarter. 3000 of those people donated, and then they donated, like, an average of $40. And then I made, like, 113 grand.

Holy cow.

And then I funded my tour. I got, like, snoop Dogg on a song. That's, like, how I was able to, like, make the first legitimate, like, non Internet stuff.

Dude, you were fucking hustling, man.

I was.

This is so cool. Thank you. Well, obviously we know you were musically gifted, even back in high school. Did you also play that just like Jason? Jason was a very musically gifted high school kid. He was in the marching band and he played running back. Both.

I was not in the marching band.

What was your instrument?

Saxophone.

Huh?

Baritone sax. You still let it rip.

He played the flute too.

I have played the flute, both the skin and the metal.

Talk to him.

I'm sure you guys both play the recorder. You know the recorder?

Yes. That's what we started on. So.

Yeah. Cross buns. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In our school district, you start on the recorder. I think in third grade and then fourth grade, you started with. Everybody had to have an instrument. It was a super liberal, artsy, like, community, and I picked alto sax and stayed with it through high school. Loved every second of it. Went to college, and I was like, nobody's gonna want to hear me play saxophone in the dorm. So I started playing guitar, and I've still kept involved in music, but not. I used to mess around with fruity loops and try and make beats and, like, stuff like that, and I was terrible at it, so I stopped.

So the Christmas album thing must be so thrilling to you too.

It's amazing.

Yeah. Get in a studio to see what.

Real musicians actually do for a living. It's truly incredible. I'm a fan of watching anybody who's an expert in their field or, like, the best at what they do or they've been doing it for their whole lives. Like, it's just so humbling to see somebody's put so much work and dedication and mastered their craft. I could watch somebody, like, if you're the best at putting up Sheetrock, it's gonna mesmerize me. Like, it's like how incredible you've done this and put the hours in that you're the best in the world. World with this.

And also saxer.

We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna make some, we're gonna make some swords here eventually. Yeah, we're gonna forge some swords or drives, whatever.

This is going down a very allegedly. We'll figure it out.

Let's check to the actual question. So he played, he played in the marching band and he was running back. Were you also musically gifted and played running back?

I didn't play running back. I played, first off, I played the drums in the 9th grade bands, but I didn't know how to read music, so all I could do just by ear, like, yeah, like, which is, you know, but then I had, but I didn't let I try. It was not a good look to be that way. So I had to work really hard to memorize it to seem like I knew. But, like, if they changed anything, which they never did, but if they did, if it was always very stressful.

Are you sure you're not just stealing this from the movie drum line? Oh, that sounds exactly like the plot of drum line.

Very good.

I was a lot like that guy, and I was the captain of the best tennis team in the history of Cheltenham. I. Oh, three year captain.

So this is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You think pickleball is like a joke?

I don't think it's a joke. I wish I was a bowl. I've played like three times and I'm just like, not nearly as good as I should be.

Okay.

So it just frustrates me as a good tennis player to get out there and, like, you know, lose to these guys that just play pickleball too much.

Do you take anything from your can get infuriating?

Yeah. Do you take anything from your time in tennis and apply it to what you do now?

Yeah, I think I always, so I had the warrior spirit, like, I'm telling you, when I was, I could be down five one game point, and I really believed and I, like, there I came back so many times and I truly was, like, the most. The way I play tennis, I'm not that good. I was the second best player in my high school, purely out of effort, heart, and I was a pusher. I never made mistakes. All hearts. Yeah.

What is a pusher?

So in tennis, like, you know, you got guys who like, rip it, right?

Yeah, yeah.

And some guys are really look good when they're warming up and they can, but then you get them in a game, and they just can't make more than three shots in a row. I will never make a mistake. I will never do anything that looks that impressive, but I will make zero unforeseen. I will get to every ball, and I'll really be, like, just an absolute pesk.

Yeah.

And I talked a lot of shit back then, too. No one. I'm happy we're talking about this, because my tennis team deserves this platform.

Hell, yeah.

Nobody.

This is why new heights is.

This is a perfect new heights topic. My tennis team behaved in a way very similar to happy Gilmore. The way he played golf, where we were disruptors, and we were really, like, not that great at tennis, but we all were really good athletes with really good hearts, and we were all, like, really funny, and we would, like, do, like, one thing I would do. I'll show you. So, basically, can I stand or am I gonna.

You can stand.

You can do whatever you want. It's gonna work.

But we can open this camera up a little bit.

All right, so I'm receiving. Can you hear me, everybody?

Yeah.

I'm receiving the serve. And the guys there on the other side of the court, and these guys, I'm playing the second best kid in every school. They're usually, like, guys who are, like, tennis lifers who, like, really are burnout from tennis. It's all they care about.

Yes.

I don't play that much. It's not a big part of my life, but I'm a winner, and I'm there to win. And so they're bouncing the ball. They go up and right as the balls in the air, I would be like. And I would go and, like, do so loud. And then they would, like, you, basically. Yeah. You psyched these dudes out? And then they would be like. They'd be like, what was that? And I'd be like, what was. What was the split step, half step before serve? Like, that's what I do. Yeah. And then, like, you know, in between.

I love this so much higher childhood cornhole.

You play cornhole? Yeah, you just walk down the board every time the guys run.

You know, in between games with tennis, you'll. I feel like I've lost control of the mic.

It has a mind of its own.

Yeah. Okay. In between games, you know, you switch every odd game.

Yeah.

And, like, the guy will sit on the bench, and, like, I would just go sit right next to the guy and be like, man, like, I would say things. I'd be like, man, this. I know that you're better than me, and I know that, you know, you're better than me, but, like, I feel like at the end of the day, I'm probably gonna win this. I would say things like that to them. And it really had, as the captain, it had, like, a trickle down effect. And, like, all of us, like, we'd.

Be like, first levels.

How's it going over there? I'd be like, oh, we're fucking killing us. And we, like, did this. We overachieved in a way that doesn't. Like, we finished top eight in the state. I say top five. I am rounding up. We were top eight. We got smoked in the quarterfinals. Every one of us was completely outmatched.

This is so good. This has to find its way.

Yeah.

Shelton ham tennis team. We had our. This is.

We need a photo. We need a photo of the shown name.

Yeah, I'll get you on.

This is so legendary, man. Thank you for taking us on that journey.

Yeah.

Who was your favorite tennis player growing up?

I love Federer.

Federer.

I was an Agassi guy.

Yeah. I mean, you were more of an.

Agassi player, it sounds like.

For sure.

Yeah.

Just an american rebel.

Just return everything.

Federer was a classic.

Back over the net.

It's crazy because with tennis, too, it's just, you feel like we, like, it's interesting that Federer came up. We were like, oh, my God, that's Michael Jordan of tennis. And then right after him, the dog came. We're like, oh, my God, that's Michael Jordan. And then Joker just came. We were like, oh, wow. Boom, boom, boom. It was really interesting.

So you're the one that was gonna be the next LeBron. He kind of fizzled out.

Who?

Nadal.

What?

Nadal didn't fizzle out?

No, he did not.

He didn't?

No.

He just got beat by the king of clay.

Maybe one, like 19 or 21 or something.

He did all right. He did good.

He's definitely top five all time, I think.

Top three. I think those three are, like, top three.

All right, so he's Magic Johnson. All right, here we go. We always like to ask our guests, they're welcome to the NFL moment, welcome to the NBA moment, whatever their field is. What is your welcome to the industry moment?

Another story I've never told that just came into my head that's perfect for this moment. Celebrity basketball game somewhere in LA and much earlier in my career than I deserve to be. Like, when I looked at the lineup, it was like Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, like John Wall. It was, like, stacked. And I had no mainstream. I had, like, a couple of viral, I don't know how I got in the game to the point where I actually put a lot of stock and import in this game that I got there an hour early to warm up because I literally thought, like, a way that I could, like, get ahead in this, like, industry faster will be, like, scoring 30 points in this game and really dumb. Like, I literally went there because I was like, this is a big opportunity. This is my chance to, like, advance my career.

This is my chance. And I am somehow dunk on Snoop Dogg.

And I've seen so many celeb games where I'm like, these guys suck, you know? And so I was excited to go there and really, you know, and a few things happened. One, I'm there warming up by myself, and Chris Brown walks in.

He can.

First time I ever saw Chris Brown. And so I'm, like, blown away by, like, just seeing him. He walks right up to me and he goes, you're a dope rapper. And I was like, and it was so early. I would never expect him to know who I am and like, to have, like, an icon in the music industry who has, like, countless, like, number. It's just like him saying that to me meant everything. That was the impetus of freaky Friday, us meeting there. That's step one. That's like the least important part of the story. Okay.

All right.

Then we play in the game starts, I'm not in the starting lineup, nowhere close. It's like, you know, it's the people I named my coach is John Wall. The way he.

Good coach.

The way he, well, not actually, because the way John Wall went about operating his team was, he did five in, five out. So he had starting five. Then he just.

So complete subs.

Yeah. So I'm in the next five, he says, he tells me, grab Chris. Like Chris Brown.

Oh, no.

So I go up to, by the way, every time Chris Brown touches the ball in this game, scores. No, it's just like, it's just like, scream. It's like people going nuts. Like every time he hears the ball, it's like, you know when people boo in Philly, when they come back, when Harden gets the ball, it was like the opposite of that. So I'm told to get Chris Brown. So I walk up to Chris and I go like, yo, I'm in for you. And he goes, I'm not coming out.

That's awkward.

And then there's eleven guys on the court. Everyone is like, matched. Like, I'm clearly the odd man. I look to John Wall.

Can you help?

It's like, direction coach.

Like, and he goes, John Wall goes, like. And he brings me back over. First thing I say is like, john, get a grip and have some authority on your team. This is, like, humiliating to send me out there and then pull me back in. It's like, so emasculating, so good. And then, then they're playing. And then I get in, like, the next five or whatever. I get in the game. I get in the game. I get the ball. I drive aggressively, I go up, I get to the rim. I get fouled so hard by Deontay Wilder, the, at the time, heavyweight champion of the world. Like, everyone, like, the whole gym went, like, like, I, like, really got hurt. I didn't hurt that. I think.

I don't.

It didn't really hurt that much. I took it in the moment.

Oh, my God.

I get up, I miss two free throws, and then I play one more meaningless minute and get. And I just didn't even. I, like, moved to the end of the bench and just chose not to make myself available for the rest of the game. But that was a real, like, there was, like, several different moments in there that felt like, like, welcome to the industry. That was, like, the first time I think I ever, like, like, was on, like, giddy images, you know what I mean? Where it was, like, get, like, watermarked images of, like, me talking to snoop, like, so good.

Let's get to your philly fandom. You're known as a Philly sports fan.

Huge.

You quoted as saying I care so much about Philadelphia sports is to a level that's unhealthy.

Yeah.

What's the one team if you had to choose all of the major ones?

I can't choose between the Sixers and the Eagles. It's definitely those six.

I knew it was going to be the one of the. I thought you were going to lie.

I can't choose. I relate to.

You're a basketball player.

I relate to basketball more.

That's what I was saying. It has to be the Sixers.

I just feel like Philly is such a Eagles town. Like, it's a Sixers town, too, but it's definitely Eagles more.

I really feel like I love them both evenly. And I love the NBA as much as I love the NFL. Like, I just love, I mean, I love the once a week, like, buildup of a game. I really love that. But I also love, like, you know, I love in baseball how they're playing every night at seven. You know what I mean, but there's definitely a drop off for me with baseball and hockey. But as far as Sixers and Eagles, I've tried to become less unhealthily obsessed to the point where like you lose a playoff game and my week is fully ruined to now I can as an adult stomach thing. But like, when I think of the best night of my life, it's 2000. It's when you won the Super Bowl.

2017, season 18.

Best night of my life was like.

Every Philly sports fan and I turned.

Down tickets to that game in Minnesota so I could go home and watch it with my like, Cheltenham ten high school friends. Oh, so then we could all go out.

Did you guys go out afterwards?

Yeah, we went, oh, I went on instagram live in the polls. I didn't climb the piece. I observed people climbing the poles.

I saw.

I saw my own two eyes.

So that is my one. That's what my one great regret is, that we couldn't be on Broad street after the game as players.

And my great regret is I had to leave town like a day after and I missed the parade. So I never got to have that with you.

Well, there is a viral clip of you wearing a Sixers jacket courtside at the 2016 NBA Finals.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a seat.

Yeah. I mean, we talk about this all the time. Best ticket.

That's the best ticket in sports. That is courtside. Yeah, courtside sucks.

Now I can't not sit courtside.

It ruins.

Ruins it. Like, the other day, like, I was offered like third row, like senate, like the dream. And I'm just like, I don't know if I can stomach. But no sitting, dude, sitting courtside and my seat was. It was like, warriors bench and then, like, 12th man, like most spates. And then me, like, you know what I mean? It was like, right? And like, that was the three one comeback. LeBron blocking. Like, blocking iguodala. Like, I was in the building for that game.

You're speaking to my heart.

It was. And like, it was really intense. It was an awesome.

It was.

But honestly, as great as that game was not the best sporting event I've ever been to. I was at Kobe's last game where he scored 60 points.

Holy shit.

I was like, in Nebraska the morning of the game and spontaneously I was like, we gotta go. And I like, brought two of my friends. Had you met Kobe, not courtside, to that game, spent $10,000 of my own money and got like, real middle of the pack, dude. Kobe scored 60.

That's electric. Every shot he hit in the fourth was.

They were, like, down ten with, like, two. It wasn't, like, a meaningless 60. It was really a crucial. It was crazy. It's awesome.

Is Kobe the most iconic Philadelphia native sports figure?

Native? Well, I feel. Yeah. How can he be more iconic than Kobe?

Yeah.

Frasier, wasn't he from.

Was he from. Yeah, I think it was Rocky, the fictional character.

So we argue about this all the time. He hates that a fictional character is, like, the focal point of the city.

Don't hate it. I don't hate it.

You have said you.

I've ran up and down the museum steps. Have you? No, you haven't.

I don't know if I. Yeah, I have not.

I'm more. I don't want to do it.

I don't really. Up and down steps.

I don't blame you. I hate all cardio. I'm not, like, the biggest rocky guy.

Okay.

Like, I wish Rocky was a real man.

We just. I mean, you just saw us, like, Schwarzenegger leave this thing.

Yeah, that was.

You should have told him.

Like, I didn't even feel comfortable even approaching Arnold Schwarzenegger. I let him walk right by.

Honestly, you know, Iverson's not from Philly.

But you know Iverson, like, totally. Like, there are a few people who shape. Like, I'm 13 years old. Allen Iverson's in the NBA Finals. He's putting out rap albums. Like, I really think he really impacted what I define cool as.

Yeah, sure.

100%.

Absolutely. We just had Saquon on, and he talked about how tough it is playing in front of Eagles fans as an opposing player. What do you think makes Philly fans so different?

Well, there's certainly an aggression. Certainly an aggression level. Look, I love Philly. Being from Philly, Philadelphia sports fans. There are definitely times where I'm like, that's too much. Like, when I'm going to a game with my uncle who's a Patriots fan, and he's, like, wearing a Patriots hat, and they're like, fuck you, fucking pussy. I'm just like, it's just unnecessary. But I do love it. I do love it deeply.

I love.

I agree. I wish I didn't agree. I love it. There's something. It's like. There's, like, an anger, and I got.

Adopted into it for 13 years, and I fucking loved every second of it.

Yeah. I mean, they care.

What do you think that anger comes from? Just from the generational.

I think it's a blue collar town. I think that there's merit to it being like the understudy of New York City and like, you know, it's like, kind of like just this blue collar, like, hard working. You know, you're gonna get what you get if you work hard for it type of thing. And I think it's also been like, this way forever that it's like exponentially become its own folklore to now.

Sure. Like, now it's like a precedent.

Like, if you're not, like, you're not like a pussy. Yeah, exactly. But I do. There's a higher level of care and there's a higher level of knowledge now. There are some, like, just completely ignorant takes, like, of course that come. But there is a higher level of baseline knowledge.

Those are the best.

I think that. Yeah, unfortunately, those higher, like, bad takes are the ones that get all the notoriety. Like, in general, though, the, like, average fan is just like, they're locked in.

They're locked in. Like, I know so much about sports and it's because I'm from Philly.

Yeah, well, you threw out the first pitch at the Phillies game last season. Jason just did opening day. This.

This year not open. Charlie Manuel did open today. He text me advice. He said, jason, I'm 80 years old. I had a stroke and I threw a strike today. And I was like, oh, all right, no pressure.

He must have seen my opening day pitch in Cleveland last year where I fucking spiked it.

He spiked it. He tried to throw it as hard as he could.

I didn't practice.

You didn't throw it or I through it for sure. It was me and Fletch, though, so it wasn't over the place. Yeah, we shared the double arm. That's right.

Yeah. So wait, how did your throw go? I didn't see it.

It was good.

I mean, it was caught. So for me, that's a hot no no hop.

I threw an o two slider. Have you seen mine? No, mine, my backdoor. It's a really.

It's. Did it go off the.

It was exactly where I wanted it to be. Like, it was totally where I wanted it to be. I threw an o two away slider. Jamie Moyes. Probably like 45 miles an hour.

That thing really slid.

Really took its time.

It's one of those that you're. You're trying to hit the dirt so that you get in the chase.

Yeah, I'm not gonna throw right down the pipe.

Yeah, right.

I just wanted to show cuz I just really wanted to showcase my. Just the movement.

Movement.

Yeah.

Dude, that high leg kick right there, that is.

It's a real audio too. If you want.

It's finished audio.

I go ah, you gotta get out there.

Yeah. I didn't think I would make any audio to get. It was further.

I.

It was further away than you think.

It is much frustrating.

I know. And it's hard to really get good grip when you have tennis shoes on. On that I'm making excuse on that rubber.

I didn't have the grip issue. But his foot definitely slipped. I think it's cuz he wears the fancier shoes that don't have.

They're not built for function where I wore hoopin shoes out there. Next time I'll make the right decision. What's your all time favorite Philly sports moment? And you can't say Super Bowl 52 because you just said it and I have to ask you questions.

That's fine. Cause it's actually not. I mean, that is the best. Eh. It probably is, but it's the answer before that that I've said my whole life. Is Iverson stepping over to Ron Liu. Game one of the NBA Finals. Like the Lakers had not lost the whole playoffs. I think there were twelve and zero leading up to that. Real David versus Goliath matchup. Overtime. I just felt like I was staying up late to watch it, you know what I mean? And he was. It was just. You really believed that they were going to win that series in that moment. They then lost four straight.

Yeah.

I was watching it like this might be the only game.

Eric Snow got hurt. Mutumbo.

It was Eric Snow. Northeast Ohio guy, baby. Shout out to Ken McKinley. I just got to give shout outs to Cleveland guys at all times.

I don't blame. That's how I feel the same way about Philly. Whenever I see like an actor who's from Philly. Will Smith. Will Smith is a great philadelphian.

Yeah, he reps it.

Yeah, reps.

It was Philly all time. Raised one of the best all time tv shows growing up.

Yeah.

Let alone music. And it's definitely what I'm with it all the fuck.

It might be my favorite tv show ever. The fresh Prince. It really might be.

I'm with you. I was definitely fresh prince, kid.

Oh, my gosh. Just talking the line from. Oh, yeah, the intro.

Yeah. Yeah. We actually had to pay money for that.

Even though it wasn't like in rhythm or melody or anything. No, that's weird. Yeah.

You had to like pay money to like use that. I think that's my memory of it.

Well, it sounds like Will did it, right?

Yeah.

The old Philly discount.

Back in 2017, a few Eagles players posted a video of themselves dancing to save that money in the locker room, and they extended invite to you to.

Come to practice, which I did not take. Yeah, I wish I did. To see these guys in the locker room, like, posting a selfie video where there's, like, eight players, like, singing along to my rap song, just an unbelievable experience.

It was. It was you and dreams and nightmares. Those were the two songs.

Crazy.

Legendary.

So legendary. And then you guys went on, I mean, your speech. Your speech is also up there with Iverson. Step over.

Don't put me up there with AI.

Honestly, the joy that I got watching that speech. What's up there is.

It's.

And it was first. It was so long. Like, it was so, so much joy. The length of the joy.

There's no way he remembered.

Well, that's. I still don't know how I remembered everything, to be honest with you.

Yeah, I don't know either.

Drinking all the way through.

Were you very drunk?

I don't. I feel like I.

You wouldn't seem held.

I feel like.

Trust me, Dave, that day, you could see it in his eyes when you be. When you're around him. Around him enough. You could see it in his eyes, like, yeah, that guy's gone.

When I said fourth and instead of fourth down. No, but I think.

Did you know you were gonna do that coming into the day?

I did. I knew I was going to do that. I knew all of it. I knew I wanted to do it, like, three days before it. And I went to one of the guys in the, like, PR department, and I'm like, hey, are we gonna, like, get a chance to talk? And, like, I wasn't at that time, like, one of the focal guys.

It was surprising.

I was that.

That feel like it made that happen?

Yeah, there was. I don't know that I would have gotten that if I wouldn't have went up and asked Justin hides administrative work. But I told him, like, I think I got. I think I want to say something. And they're like, okay, well, we don't know. We'll tell you. And they told me a couple days later, like, hey, yeah, you're gonna get a chance to talk. And they, like, gave everybody a chance. So there's a lot of people that spoke, but I was like, be awake till three, four, am not sleeping. Like, going in my head, like, different narratives of, like, first of all, myself getting to the Super bowl and winning it and how crazy that was. And then, like, how, like, many things you overcome, and then you start thinking about everything your teammates did. Like, Nick Foles was just like a backup quarterback, comes out here, wins the Super bowl. Like, all these things are going through your head, and you're going teammate after teammate after coach after coach. I mean, Howie Rosen was in a different part of the building, and it's like all these things are building up, and you see the correlation completely with the city of Philadelphia and how they had been so close multiple times when.

In the struggle and had it to.

Overcome so much to get there. So I think that's why I remembered it, because it was like. It was so vividly entrenched of my own story combined, my teammates combined with the city.

It was perfect. It really felt like you were from Philadelphia, but I think where you're. Where you're from is probably very similar. And, like, we were just talking about.

This the other day. I think they shared similarities, but philly obviously, being kind of more east coast, they got a little more of the aggressive nature.

Yeah.

Especially in the sports world, Cleveland fans. I mean, it is blue collar in sports town as it gets, too.

Yeah.

And that's. I mean, it helped drive our. Yeah, there are.

There are, like.

I don't know that any man has made me cry in the last, like, five years more than you. Like, I can think of three off the top of my head. That speech, your documentary, your retirement speech. Off the top of my head, there's probably more that I was not thinking. I've cried watching. I cry when you guys podcast, like, when you start, it makes me cry instantly. That's four.

Have you ever seen more men cry publicly than us do it?

We're the only fucking guys out here trying.

It's a lot of crying.

After we won the Super bowl, you posted a screenshot of a text from my man, Lane Johnson. Yeah, we'll show that there. Yeah. Did you text anybody else? Do you know anybody else on the team? How did you know Lane? I think, I guess. Let's start there.

Evan Mathis.

You know Evan?

Yeah. Nice shout out to, but no is a very loose term. Like, this is like, you know, your Twitter DM and, like, you know, but I.

That's good enough.

Even Lane, I haven't really gotten to spend any time with him the way I want to, so. But you just. You know, I think that. I don't know who it is. It's probably me, or it could be them. But someone reaches out to the other, and the other one's excited, and then we just talk.

It's really not that surprising.

Like I say, it's cool to be at a party and meet. I don't know. I haven't even met him, but bad bunny or something. But there's nothing cooler than for me having a direct line into Daryl Morey, the GM of the 76 ers, and be like, what are we thinking? So that type of just being able to text a guy the day of the Super bowl or whatever, and he responds. I'm just like. I feel like the true kid in me comes out.

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Incredible gift. Travel hard to beat a la z boy recliner. Matter of fact, some say it can't be beat. As you know, we're in LA right now. How am I supposed to get this thing back to Philly?

I mean, they shipped it here. I just figure they ship it to you after this. Anyone want to send a truck while.

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Let's talk about the product. Ah. First off, I still trust the process.

I love this. Philly sports will not give up on the process.

I'm not giving up in the process. I think, look, he's coming back, and it's good. It's good that he was out. Now he's gonna be the rap him up. And our other guys really got to, like, just play more. I don't know. It might not be good that he was out. Time will tell.

Time will tell.

Time will tell the process. When it happened, I was liKe, I love drew holiday. So I was, I was bummed to lose drew holiday. That was the first domino of the process to fall was New Orleans de welcome. But I was for it. I thought it was the right Thing to do. I thought it was innovative. I, like, love moneyball, and I love, like, weird ways of thinking about sports. And I don't think there's anything wrong.

With being big in analytics, huh?

Yeah, exactly. What's wrong with being logical and being, like, why do I want to try as hard as I can to be the eight seed every year? Let's just suck for four years and be able to draft Joelle Embiid. I think there are a few just flagrant mistakes along the way that are just unbearable.

Which ones are you thinking of?

To me, the biggest mistake and is trading, essentially, Jason Tatum and a first round pick for Markel Foltz.

Oh, okay.

That's gonna sting you forever.

Michael Fultz is a good player, and it's not. I have trouble even disrespect. When I was a kid, I would talk shit about athletes, but becoming, I guess, a celebrity. I now have a different perspective on the pressures that you guys deal with, and I'd like to talk about this for a second.

Sure, let's talk about it.

I think it's so crazy, the pressure. I feel just like putting out a movie or something or a tv show. And I'm in control of the edit. I'm in so much control of exactly what the finished. You guys are just out there having live moments that all you can do is be in the moment. And then if you fail, you're called weak hearted. And that's so normalized, it's not even considered that offensive for you to be in a stadium and be like, fuck you, you pussy.

Like, you have no heart unless you show no heart. And then. Yeah, you're told that unless you got.

Alligator rhymes fucking up a heart.

Yeah, I mean, I think so. Like, I guess to what you just.

You know what I'm saying? I feel like dehumanization of athletes.

I think that's fair. I think that's. That's true. But I think at the end of the day, a lot of the times, what you do on the court, like, even if you're bad, you can still, like, stop that from being narrative. Yeah, you can it. Like, if you can't catch a ball, you're gonna get people gonna say you suck, but they're not gonna call you soft and, like, attack you. Yeah, you know, there are some outlandish things, and I think, you know, people say all sorts of things when they're mad, but the overall narrative, at the end of the day, once you're done playing, like, once the emotionality of, like, the moment of the game is done. And this is why I try remind, like, players, because players get wrapped up in what's being said now. And it's like, dude, take out the equation. What's being said now? This is just the moment. This is what the fans are gonna say in the moment because they're pissed.

Yeah.

Like, just go out there and play your balls off and do the best you can and show you that you care. And, like, if you don't win, they're still gonna probably hate you and think that you sucked, but they'll at least respect you.

Yeah.

I really do believe that. In the, at the end of the.

Day, the guys that do it the right way, they're idolized for a reason. Because you see the competitiveness, you see the heart, you see the passion. And then in those moments, you see him be able to persevere or come out on top. And it's like, that's the beauty of fucking sports. You know, there's a winner and loser in it. And that's why everybody, that's why everybody watches that.

To play devil, fans do cross a lot. There's no question.

And to play devil's advocate, not that he needs one, I think you boys are exceptional people, athletes. And you think at a higher level, and you have a lot of, like, self awareness and confidence. And, like, imagine being, like, a high first round pick and just being, like, kind of a weird, insecure guy.

No. And I think sometimes it's, it's, it's a crutch to be drafted high because the expectation that's layered on you is thick right from the get go, maybe. Especially if you aren't ready.

That. Real thick, like we were thick.

It's a heavy.

But back, back to the mark rifle. You just said, right. I would hope that he would. If he did hear that, it would be. It's not like it's an attack on necessarily when you're thinking like, he's bounced back.

He's, he's having.

I wanted them to draft markel Folz.

Yeah.

I wasn't like, what are you doing? You gotta get Tatum.

Retrospect.

In retrospect, it's just. That would have changed. That is what the process was trying to do was get you, Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid, and we just never quite got that other guy.

And when you look at it in retrospect, it's just like, this is what it was. It's not like, like I'm trying to crap on average, like, the reality was it didn't work out.

Yeah.

The way the plan was.

Yeah.

And there's reasons why guys don't pan out in certain places. And it's not always like that. That guy isn't a good player. There's, there's fits, there's schemes, there's all sorts of reasons why things don't pan out.

And now with the Sixers, we're, it's hard. You know, we're in a tough, it's like they gambled with the Hardin thing. I think they were right to move on. I think Harden is great, but I don't think that is a good fit.

Good fit.

Well, I don't think, I don't even think that is a good fit of athlete and city, to be quite honest. I think that would have just been a ticking time bomb. Joelle Embiid, when he's playing and he's playing, he's never, the whole process. Every single year in the playoffs, he's hurt. He gets hurt like a week before he gets his face broken or he, like, it's like the timing, it's truly been, it's been five straight years.

Chris Paul had that kind of thing going along, too. Some guys, and that's in sports, you have to be every bit as fortunate in terms of staying healthy that you do to have that success, man.

And we've been unlucky in that regard. That's why I'm just like, look, there's only like two weeks left of the regular season and beta has been hurt all year, sure. But maybe, maybe he's going to be back in two weeks, is the perfect amount of time to ramp up, get him right back to where he is, and maybe he got the injury out of the way this year and we're going to get a healthy embiid for the first time. And I'm curious what that can equate to because I think he really is the stud. He's unreal.

He's like unguardable.

The most unguardable player. I watched Iverson and Joel is just a different level of unguardable dude. It's, the way he plays is crazy. Iverson was like, I love Iverson. I'm the biggest Iverson fan. He wasn't the most efficient player in the world. Like, he had to shoot a lot embiid. I mean, just look at the stats. I love Iverson. Embiid is just like, so efficient, so, like, and the way he does it is remarkable. Just the eye test of it all is like, crazy. Yeah, same with Iverson. The eye test, of course. And I love, I love Allen Iverson.

Did you have Iverson's growing up? Did you have the questions, the answers?

I never met Iverson either. I was another celebrity basketball game. I rebounded and passed in the ball, and he just accepted the ball, just rebounded, facilitating.

Good, though. You were the ball boy.

Yeah, I acted like one, so I don't blame him.

We're gonna get to our segment. We gotta ask, but you don't have to answer.

All right.

Feel no pressure. First question. Our fans have asked us to sign actual babies.

Travis actually signed his first one, chrome Parsons champion. Haley, let me sign that chrome dom of his.

What's the weirdest thing someone has asked you to sign?

I mean, I signed a man's dick. Shut the fuck way I did. I signed a man's dick.

So when you said in the show, like, come back, that's one of those.

Based on the truth, I was like, dude, I basically. Back then, I was like. When I was trying to sell the tickets, I was like, whatever. I forget what studio, but I was like, you know, Sacramento. Like, still a few tickets left. Meet and greet. Like, I might sign someone's dick tonight. Like, blah. I said something funny like that. And so people are asking. The guy eventually comes to the front, and he goes like, yo ld like, you for real about, like, signing dicks? And I just, like, I just wanted to see if this was actually about to happen. So I said, if you unravel your dick and stretch it and place it on the table, I will sign that. I will sign it with no hesitation.

Zero hesitation.

Zero hesitation. There's probably kids in the store, like, I don't know who was there. It's probably an all ages show. He unraveled his dick. His medium sized dick.

Medium.

His medium sized. I remember being very, like, it wasn't that big. It wasn't that small. It was very medium. It was normal. I didn't feel annoyed by it, or. It was easy to. I could find the place to sign easily, and I signed this man's dick.

Medium dick.

Yeah. Wow.

Can't call his bluff, baby.

Yeah, that's definitely.

Can't call his bluff.

That's weird.

I think I'm the only rapper probably to ever sign a dick.

Guaranteed.

Guaranteed.

Well, let's not say that.

You never know.

When you were on TNF, the shop, Thursday night Football this past season, you said if you were a woman, you'd date Travis.

Wait, what? This was said.

I don't know if you saw that.

I didn't see this. I'm just.

It's true.

Yeah, dude. What? You said this. I'm honored.

Yeah.

So, basically, what was your logic?

What was your dick right now?

Like, we were. It was very early with you and Taylor, and they were like, I think it was. I don't know if they were talking about how they, like, cut to her, just. They were talking about just the idea of you and her, and I was just like, I totally get it. I was like. I was like, if I were a woman, he's exactly who I would go. I was like, there's no. First off, he's the best of all time at his position. One, he's seemingly the nicest, sweetest, like, kind of funniest, like, most, like, classically cool guy in high school vibe. And I just thought that, you know, when you danced, it really took my, it took the way he danced. I forget. I dmed you immediately. I was like, this is crazy. Like, whenever I saw you do the stanky leg for the first time, I was like, it's unreasonable to be this talented.

I've been working on that stanky leg for years, baby.

How can you dance so well? You can't come close to doing it.

Time out. I can't dance well.

Do you see Uzi verse? I saw it. Yeah, yeah. I'm right in between you two. I'm, like, dead in the middle. If, like, if you let me control the edit, I will look like you because I catch pockets and moments of incredible grace. But if you're just, like, leaving the camera running for the whole time, I'm really right in the middle.

Jason's got all the musical playing talents.

I was seated playing my saxophone. Travis was up dancing.

That must have been why that's playing.

The trumpet is what I was doing.

Yeah.

All right, now. Well, I'm honored.

That's true.

Dude, who is your mount Rushmore of rappers turn actors?

Well, I'm really thinking about on the spot. Will Smith, ice cube.

Ooh, infiltrate the dealer.

Can we put Eminem in there with 8 miles? Quarterback to classic movie. Yeah, let's give him the credit.

Yeah, fair enough.

I feel like I'm probably missing someone incredible. Like, first off, I think Tupac would have been the goat at this. Yeah. I think he would have been the best at all time at doing both. Snoop is obviously straddled both. Am I forgetting anybody like tea? But I don't, you know, I don't.

I could throw some out there for you. Please, 50 cent. Oh, cool j. Ll, let's give ll his flowers.

Let's go, ll.

I love it.

Ll.

Like, you know, he was gonna say.

Marky Mark, you could.

Yeah.

He really just dipped in and out.

Yeah, he wasn't, like, mainstream, but he was cool. He looked cool.

Marky. Marking a funky bunch, baby.

He was hot.

Are you sick of being on interview shows and asking to freestyle.

Well, I always instantly say no. Yeah. So I'm not sick of it, but anytime. It's shocking how often people think I'm just doing, like, an. Exactly. I was like, I did this thing for Kevin Hart. He just won the Mark Twain award for comedy, which is, like, winning the Oscar for being a comedian.

Shout out to Kev.

Yeah. Shout out Kevin Hart, the Philly guy. I'm doing the red carpet, and I'm being interviewed by NPR, seeing it's such a legitimate event, and I'm doing the best I can. And they're like, little Dickie. As a rapper, if you had to bust out a few bars about Kevin, like, what would they be? And I was just like, absolutely not.

That's not how this works.

Is this his day? And I am not going to ruin this.

No.

Especially to pinpoint it down. Don't. Weird subject.

It's a weird thing. I became a famous rapper without having ever performed in front of anybody. I was embarrassed to do karaoke. You know what I mean? I'm not the kind of guy who feels normal just being. Just busting out into a rap spontaneously. That being said, I do think I can be one of the best rappers ever. So it's a weird place. I mean, I have to put in a lot more work to be one of the best rappers, but I feel like I have the talent to be one of the best rappers alive. I am one of the best rappers alive. Present day.

I love that.

Fuck, yeah.

I'm making a lot of great music, even right now, present day, I'm in the studio every day, and I really feel very strongly about what I just said. But at the same time, look at how I talk, look at how we're communicating. I just think it'd be weird if I was like, you know, I'm not even gonna do it.

Don't do it.

The thing that I'm the most proud of as a rapper, for sure, is, like, going on these iconic radio shows, like sway. Cause I feel like it is a huge part of the culture, and it is like, back to the wall, and I am a champion and a hero like that in my mind. And it was the most nervous I've ever been. Like, going on sway and, like, having to do, like, be impressive. Like, I'm sure, like, a comedy funny. Like, white rapper. Like, they'd be thrilled if the guy failed and, like, made a fool of himself. So I. Like, if I were to show JD any footage of my rap career, I wouldn't show them any of my hit songs. I would show them when I went on Sway and I rapped because I feel like that is a true representative of my talent musically. All right.

I love it, love that, love that. Who's the best athlete rapper of all time?

Dame Lillard.

All right.

Instant.

Yeah, he's got to me.

Instant.

He's got crazy.

I listen to Damian Lillard and I'm like, I love listening to this music. Like the other artists, the rappers, you know, athletes. I'm like, that's cool that he did that.

Yeah.

And sometimes I really do like it, but Dame Lillard is just on a different level.

I respect it.

Yeah, we've got a lot of new fans. Not sure if you've heard of them. They're called swifties. Yeah, I heard all about.

For those that you guys doing with.

All this, it's listen, it's fun. Not changed that much for me, but for.

I'm having a blast in life, baby.

Yeah.

Just flying high as you should join it all, bringing new lives to the football world.

Yeah, I think it's the best thing ever.

Opening the football world up to new things.

I love it. Honestly, my take on it, not that you want to spend time talking about it for the 5000th time, but I just think there's something that makes everyone feel like the world is kind of like high school where your most popular pop star, beloved musician somehow met your most popular, beloved athlete and they actually fell in love. It's just real and I don't know, I think it's. Anyone who hates on it is a bitter loser. But I think a lot of people who would maybe expect to hate on it actually love it and they acknowledge they love it cause it's just so. There's something so american about it or something.

Yeah, I hate to say it, there's.

Something just classic about it.

I don't know how I did it cause she does not. She wasn't into sports so I don't know how the fuck I did it.

Well, you did it because you said you caught her out on your media.

I know exactly how I did it.

Yeah. What song would you, of all your songs recommend to the swifties that haven't listened to you before, what is your number one song that you ask people to listen to or you would want somebody to listen to of your catalog of music?

Well, I guess my instinct is to go to the poppiest song I make. However, I'm still the same man that I always would be. No matter if it's swifty or Jay Z. So I would direct the swifties to my sway freestyles. Yes. To see just a guy getting after it. Like, just on a rap level. Like, I have other pop hits that you might. There's a song that I'm gonna stick with what I'm saying. I'm not gonna.

Yeah, I like this.

I'm not gonna mention, but I do have a few, like, breakup, like, you know, emotionally, like, love songs that maybe you'd find endearing. I don't know. But I also rap aggressively.

Love it, love it.

So your rap names, of course. Little Dicky. Can you help us give some rap names to me and Jason?

So you guys have no starting points. I'm just.

I mean, just based off of maybe.

I don't know.

I guess we're like, where does.

Where does the rap name, like, originate in speech?

Maybe for Jason.

Is it like, the porn star names where you, like, would do, like, your. Your street and, like, your. Your cat or something like that?

We can't do that, cuz then we'd have the same fucking. We'd be cold flash Coleridge. Is there be a fucking porn star?

Holy shit. That's the best one I ever heard of that. For me, it was like, you know, there's a lot of lil. So I was like, let's start with Lil. Sure. And I just knew I wanted to make, like, probably like a joke that was self deprecating about being, like, not cool. Like, young man was actually my backup rap name. I don't know if anyone, either one.

Of you, wanted to play on that. That's true. That's great.

I thought about it, and to this day, I wonder, would I have succeeded if I was a young man?

It's the raps. It's the raps for sure.

Okay, cool.

The problem with young. The problem with young is that eventually you're not young.

And then it's like, doesn't seem to matter.

Like, young.

Jeezy still. Still getting on red carpet. Actually, I think he might be. Jeezy. He might actually be. He might have taken the young away. Hmm. I don't know. Rap names, really random thoughts are going, like, stick shift is coming through my head. I don't know why that fits like for you. Like, stick shift, but that's. I never heard, like, a rapper name anything like that.

Stick shift.

But it's cool.

That's how you have a cool name. I like the uniqueness of it.

You'd have to do something a little cool. Like, I feel, like, smooth, maybe, like, smooth like smoove. Like smooth, trav.

Yes.

Move. Travel.

Trash the wave. You guys ever listen to that radio show?

I think that was exclusively. I never did.

Yeah, it was everywhere.

107 FM.

Way over everyone's head.

Brings zero bells for me. I'll think on it, though. I think we could probably beat both of those smoove. Smooth might even be better than smooove. Trav.

Is nobody named, like, I don't know.

What about too rich? I always thought that too rich is.

A good rap name.

Never be too rich, baby. Come on, now.

You are smooth. I mean, I'm happy that you went there immediately, because Travis.

Yeah.

I appreciate this guy.

Silk.

Yeah. And you are about as sticky.

Jerky.

Yeah.

All right, man. I think that fucking does it, dude.

Yeah.

Dave.

Guys, thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for blessing the show.

You guys don't understand how much this is a dream come true to be like, let me just tell you. Favorite eagle ever.

No way.

Yeah. It was b doc.

Come on.

I concur.

It was b doc. I'll give you my quick eagle. Mount Rushmore.

Oh, yeah.

And this is personal. It's not. I'm not. I'm not gonna, like, go Chuck Narek, you know, even though he probably would be in it.

No, I probably wouldn't, because Jason takes spot.

It's you, Brian Westbrook.

West.

I mean.

Yeah.

Second in all purpose yards.

And I just think throw the guy. The ball in the front.

Likable.

Yeah.

Just likable game.

Yes.

Felt like it. Dawkins.

Yeah.

All football.

And for me, fourth. I'm going Donovan McNabb. Let me tell you something about McNab. Yeah.

Controversial.

Well, let me say, I would much rather. I don't know if you agree, but as a fan, I would rather be competitive for ten years and never win, then suck and win one year, and McNabb brought an era of sustained, I would say greatness, but if you want to say goodness, fine. All I know is that every single year, we were in the last three weeks of the season, and I always believed, and I always. And he was a fucking pro bowl stud.

Yeah, he was.

And I thought he was cool.

I mean, I can play some ball now.

And he seemed funny and cool, and I thought he got an unfair rep in Philadelphia, and I'm a big McNab guy.

Yeah. I respect it. I respect that moment.

I mean, I don't know what I rather. Would you rather take one Super bowl and not making the playoffs?

Give me that, motherfucker. Super bowl.

Fucking Super bowl over like, how many they went to? Like what? Like four or five NFC championship games.

They went to three straight.

I'd rather not make the playoffs.

Or what?

They went to one Super bowl.

One Super bowl? Yeah.

Losing in the playoffs in the Super bowl is the fucking worst feeling in the world. Fuck that.

I can't imagine. I can't. I was so mad when you. When you beat the Eagles on that bullshit fucking non call.

Gosh, it was so electric.

I've never had enough. My hair never looked the way it did after that game. Like, it was like I had been electrocuted. That was so stressful.

We don't got to bring up bad memories, man. We keep this thing going for you.

It's a good memory.

Best rapper in the fucking game. The best.

You don't rapper say that.

I am saying.

Yeah, you're right. He does.

Because I believe it.

That's right, Og.

Thank you for blessing the show.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

Already know I love you both.

Alrighty, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you today for joining the show.

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You can.

You can just hang.

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