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Yeah. So thank you guys for clicking that, like, button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you for helping us get to 404,000 subs. I'm your favorite sports bump. Shannon Sharp, he's your favorite number 85. Bingle legend guy that's extremely happy because his bingles won the game tonight. Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson. We've also pinned Shay by LA Portier at the top of the screen. Make sure you go grab your bottle for you or loved one with the holidays right around the corner. So thank you again. Click that, like, button. Click that subscribe button and make sure you get notified with Nightcap with Uncle Ocho is coming to YouTube. The bingles beat the Jags in overtime. Ocho Browning. Jake Browning. 32 or 37? 354. A touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury, and it's just not about this game. It's about the ramifications moving forward because the Texans are right there nipping tuck on their heels in the AFC south. And if he's down for any substantial amount of time, this could be the opportunity that Texas need to overtake the jag. But let's talk about your bingles. Get a hard fought victory on the road to keep their playoff hopes alive.

34 31. Jake Browning 32 or 37? 354 to touchdowns. What do you like about your bingles? I love it.

They had a balanced tack. They had a healthy dose of not just the run, but also play action RPO a little bit. Not full RPO because Browning is not one that's like Lamar Jackson to be able to run the ball. A nice dose of, nice dose of passes to t, to Tyler. Chase has some big catches tonight, big clutch catches, and we look good. We look very efficient. I think Browning look exactly like I expect him to look outside of how he looked last week. Okay, now, you got two weeks under your belt. You got receivers that make your job somewhat easy. All you have to do is put the ball in a vicinity. You don't have to do much. You don't have to play hero ball. Let them take care of everything else. And this is what you got today. You had a quarterback that all we need you to do is be efficient. Don't turn the ball over, don't throw any picks. Take what the defense gives you and make sure we have a chance to win the game towards the end. And that's exactly what we got from him.

Yeah, I think T. Higgins coming back was a big boost for them. Obviously, now you got a guy that can also beat one on one coverage when they start rolling coverage towards Chase. But Chase made some big time catches. He had a big touchdown run. I think it was a third down where he caught it. He bobbled it and still somehow secured the catch before he went down. I think that ended up leading to a field goal. It was those type of plays that really sets him apart from some of the other receivers, and that's what you expect from a one, a receiver. Guys make tough plays in tough situations. But you're right, the Bengals played really well last night. Tonight. Well, last night.

Last night.

They played well last night, but they needed this, ocho, they really needed this victory to keep their playoff hopes alive. They couldn't afford to lose any more games because the Texans, like I said, but the Texans had already gone and beaten them. So the Texans do own the head to head matchup. But now your situation where you get a little closer to Jacksonville because we don't know their situation. I think also the Broncos are also six and six. And so, you know, you got the four division winners that get automatic birth and then you have three wild cards. So every game know Trevor Lawrence, man, that was Parker Washington. The reason why this happened is because Trevor wanted to throw the ball and he over there bull jiving in the route, bro, get your head around.

I was looking at number two on the replay, like, what was he, number eleven?

You mean the two receiver, but number eleven.

Yeah, it seemed like he thought it was like a run, the way he came off the ball.

You saw that, too.

Yeah, like he wanted to block somebody. I don't know. I don't know where the miscommunication was at, but he was right there. All he had to do was just turn, turn around. But there was a mis, miscommunication between him and the quarterback. And it's unfortunate. I know what Trevor got just based on what happened. It's a high ankle sprain because he's.

Planning and the guy, the left tackle.

Stepped on his ankle.

Hendrix bulls him back. So now he's trying to brace, trying to catch him, and now he steps on Trevor ankle, rolls it over.

All that weight.

All that weight. All that weight.

All that weight. Yeah.

And you know when you see a guy slam the ground, he knows he's injured. He takes his helmet off on the field, he slams it to the turf. He knows he's injured. This ain't something like, okay, just let me get to the sideline, retape it. I'll be okay. No, I'm injured, guys. I'm injured on the joke. Let's get to this, ocho. This is what I want you to. Your boy, Zach Wilson.

That's my boy.

I'm going to make sure you steal your boy after this. The jets reportedly want to make the switch at quarterback. The team is leaning towards Zach Wilson to take back over, but he's reluctant to stepping back in. Hold on. Aaron Rodgers reached out to Zach in an effort to advise him to resume the role as starter, but Wilson remained apprehensive due to the perceived injury risk.

Hell, no. And I don't blame him. And I don't blame. Don't, man, listen, that's like, unc, stay with me a little bit now. Stay with me, baby. The people that are watching, stay with me. Let's say you have a girlfriend in high school, right? And you all are dating, and all of a sudden, you know what she say, you know what? This ain't really working out. I don't even want to be with you no more. And she going and deal with somebody else. And you know what? She don't really like him because he nothing like you. You know what? I'm going to. Come on. You know what? I messed up. I ain't really mean that. I think we should rekindle things and get back together, right? Man, if you don't get up out my face, man, the disrespect, the disrespect of what the jets are trying to do, similar to what they're doing to Mac Jones over there. Oh, bench you put somebody else in. Bench you, man. Zach say, I ain't going for that. I ain't going for that. Do you see what happened with Treposeemian? Did you see what he had to deal with?

And you think I'm finna go back in that and back in the game and deal with that when you tried to put the onus and the blame of the struggles of our team on me and use me as the escape goat, man, please. I don't blame him.

You played in the league a long time. So you tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. Are you done with the NFL or you want to go somewhere? So I want you to tell me what are the other teams thinking? You tell me what his teammates are thinking. See, I told you from the jump he wasn't a guy, but go ahead, tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking.

I'm not sure.

You are sure? Okay, hold on. The reports are coming out. A player, they want to put a player back in the game, but he's reluctant or african to get him killed.

Would you want to get him killed? Okay, I'm just saying. You want to get him killed? The other 31 team. Listen, stay with me. Stay with me. Let me finish. The other 31 teams, the management, the GMs, the people in the front office and the other 53 players on the other 31 teams, they can see, they watch film. They played the jets. They can see what's happening. They can see what's happening to the quarterback position at the jets.

He ain't going to lead her. Ain't nobody want him in the team. Ain't nobody want him on the team. He ain't no leader.

High in the sky don't lie.

So let me ask you a question. I want you to hear me out. Zach Wilson will be the first guy that got bent and been asked to go back and resume his starting role. Are you telling me in the 105 year history of the NFL, Zach Wilson will be the first guy, regardless of position, to lose his job and then been asked to go resume his job?

You want him to get killed? I'm just asking.

I want him to do his effing job.

He tried to do it. How are you going to do it? Running for your life? How the fuck are you going to do a job? Running for his life? Knocked off, so he can't even do a goddamn three step drop. How is he going to do in job? Explain to me.

Well, he wasn't reading the coverages even when it was a three step drop.

Stay with me. He got benched, right? Yeah, he got benched. Yes. He got benched because he wasn't able to do a job. He wasn't able to play efficient football.

Okay.

They put Trevor Simeon in there. What changed? What happened?

Nothing changed.

Nothing.

He got hurt.

Nothing at all. So why you want him to go back and do a job when he couldn't do it the first time?

That's his job as a football player. You don't get to determine. Well, since you bench me, I'm going to sit on the sidelines and sulk. Your job is an NFL football. So let me ask you a question. So guess what? So I don't have to pay?

Ask.

Do I have to pay?

Listen, I love you to death. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly where you're coming from. But I'm standing with Zach Wilson on this. You ain't finna see me out there. No goddamn collateral damage to get my ass. Uh uh. I ain't got nothing to work with. Well, guess what?

I'm a suspended for conduct detrimental. I'm a suspended for conduct detrimental.

Don't have me in no wheelchair. Talk about you don't want to kick it. No, don't do me like that.

I'm going to have to suspend it for conduct detrimental to the team. You ain't got to play. I'll sit you down. You ain't going to get no check, though.

Hey, listen, put me out there like that. Is conduct detrimental to my mental health. Put me out there like that.

What you think his teammates been thinking? How you think they've been living when he was out there? Been sucking for two and a half years?

No, it ain't him. Who in the hell has been great at the quarterback position for the jets since Joe Namath? Since you want to blame Zach Wilson for the past two years, what about the other 20 years? What about the other 20?

Mark Sanchez. Question, is Mark Sanchez better than Zach Wilson? Because he got him in two AFC championship games riding a top notch defense. So I'm going to ask you.

Whoa, who got him there? A top notch what?

Defense.

Okay, thank you.

Whoa, hold on now. I want you to know. Hey, Chad. Y'all chime in. Chad Ocho, Cinco told me the jets defense like that when Robert Sullivan was.

Talking about jets defense is like, they are like that. Oh, they are? Yeah. And you know what? The jets offense is like that because they got Alan Lazar and they got motherfucking Garrett Wilson.

Bad.

Know. You want to know who the problem. Oh, can I tell you who the problem is? Yeah. Who? The play calling. The play calling.

I want to trust you, but I don't know if I can trust you because I know you told me Chase Claypool just needed a change of scenery from Pittsburgh, from Chicago. And when the last time you heard Chase Claypool name called in Miami, well.

Goddamn, they got goddamn Tyreek. Goddamn.

You told me Chase Claypool is a vending machine vendor.

Machine.

You know what a vending machine is, don't you? You know what a vending machine is? They got a whole lot of things. Sometimes they got sodas, sometimes they got chips, sometimes they got a gum. You know, I've seen vending machine that has cell phone cameras. You would just give me all these analogy with the.

Hold on, hold on. When you got a vending machine, if ain't nobody putting no goddamn quarters in you, ain't nobody buying shit. So what you want to do?

Because everybody know the material. Old ass soda. Who break drinking soda that bitter half the can because it evaporated.

No, it ain't got nothing to do with it. But listen, I understand what you're saying and the people in the chat, I want you to listen and stay with me and have a better understanding and really think about what's going on over there in New York. You're not going to use Zach Wilson as this scapegoat and understand the troubles and the struggles that we are having offensively. And then you're going to bench me and say, well, damn, okay, I'm the issue, we're struggling and then put somebody else in for me. And you see him get killed as well. And obviously Aaron Rogers, when the few plays he did play, he was having to run for his life in just a short amount of time. And nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. And now to tell me, oh, now we want you to go back in there. Hell no. You got me fucked up. Excuse me, I almost curse.

Don't worry about, you ain't got to go in there. We ain't got to worry about paying you either.

You're going to get that check for all that bullshit you all putting him through.

Let me ask you a question. If the Bingles told Ocho sink going.

To go suspend it for Warren.

Hold on.

They need to spend the goddamn front office. Who got the goddamn team so goddamn incompetent and not building the right team. Not building the right team for the goddamn fans of New York goddamn City.

Yeah. You suspend the guy.

Who do the drafting with the jets.

Whoever drafted Zach Wilson made a huge mistake. Yeah, but it was the same guy that drafted Quinn.

Whoever been doing the drafting for the jets the past 2030 years.

I don't know about 2030 years, but I know a guy, that same guy that drafted Zach Wilson drafted Quinnie Williams. That pretty good. He dropped the sauce gardener. That pretty good.

Really good. Yeah.

Oh, he drafted Gary Wilson. That pretty good.

That's very good.

Okay.

Yeah, very good. But there's a certain position that matters in sports. Especially when it comes to the NFL. When it comes to the NFL, you're only as good as your quarterback. You're only going to go as far as.

What's in here? What's up here? What's in here, ocho? What's up here? What's in here, ocho?

You already know what the deal is. I know y'all not finna use Zach as no goddamn talk about some. Come on. Come on. That's like. And you know good and well if some chick left you and things didn't go well with the next door, and she came back trying to holler at.

You, ocho, you got to look at a situation like this.

Don't even play at my top like that, ocho.

But you got to look at it like this is like a job. You might get demoted on a job. Now, you can either leave the job or they say, okay, it didn't work out. We want you to resume your role. You could say, hell, no, and they say, I'm going to fire you or I'm going to suspend you for conduct detrimental. The choices are yours.

Where's the conduct detrimental if they try to put you back, putting him in harm's way? Have you been watching the jets this season?

I've been watching. That's conduct detrimental, ocho, anytime you play in a football game, Jack, I'm at a risk. Zach Wilson's at a risk. You were at a risk. Everybody was at a risk. But the problem is that if Mike Nim tried to put me in, if Brian Billy tried to put me in, nah, y'all ain't been rocking with me this long.

Come on. You ain't built like that. That's different. You ain't built like that. Listen, and the onus of the team, the franchise, is not on your shoulders. That's completely different. Now, the quarterback position, especially quarterbacks in general, they're very fragile. They're very fragile. Obviously, based on. Yes, sir.

Ocho, how you gonna look at your quarterback? And you know, what we going through as a team, regardless of position? And he said, we out there fighting.

Fighting what? Fighting what the jets still think they got.

The jets are playing. You don't think that defense playing hard? You don't think Gary Wilson out there busting his ass?

The defense is playing extremely well. They are still playing extremely well, even though the offense at this point in the season, they've been up and down. They've been up and down. Zach Wilson tried to do the best that he could with what he had to work. Still, honestly, no bullshit. I still think it's the play calling because there's too much talent offensively with breeze hall, Garrett Wilson and Alan Lazard and creativity that they can have offensively where it should look the way it does. That's all I've been saying. That's all I've been saying.

But here's the thing. I'm not saying that's not the case, but just because I got a crappy boss, that does not excuse me from doing my job right. That's the problem that he's running into. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I agree with everything that you said. That Nathaniel Hackett, we saw how he looked miserably in Denver and we see how he's looking now. All those things may be true, but that does not exolve me of my responsibility of going out there and playing to the best of my ability. You just told me, I remember I told you about the quarterback and having confidence in a belief. I don't give a damn about no belief. I got a responsibility to do my job.

I got my job, right.

What happened to your responsibility to go to do your job?

Well, I mean, I was talking about coming from a place of me being me and me going.

So you want a guy like that leading you? That guy right there?

Well, listen, if that guy would lead me, he wouldn't be going through the issues he's going through right now. He wouldn't be going through the issues, man. He wouldn't be going through. He wouldn't be going through me, man. Listen, why, you better check my first. I wouldn't care what the play Nathaniel hacking could call, what he want. When I break that huddle, I say, zach, if the safety is in the middle of the field, I don't care what the play call. Let that bitch come my way. Oh, Joe, I'm going to make your job easy. You got the right one. I'm going to make your job mean.

Look at, look at how it looked last year when the other quarterback was in there with Gary Wilson. He went off as a player of the year, rookie of the year. He didn't have to be Einstein. He just had to have marginal competence.

That's it. That's it. But again, who's calling the plays again? Nathaniel Hackett. Okay, listen, I'm not one to talk about people, but I mean, let's talk about the elephant in the room before we get to blaming Zach Wilson. But anyway, let's go.

Well, to check the poll, we got 3000 votes so far, 57% we agree with 43% agree with you.

Come on, man. 57%. What you all doing, man? Think about your job. Think about your workplace. If your boss played with your head like that, you know what? I don't even really think you the one for the job. Where are you working at? So we don't move on to Larry. We don't move on to Larry. And let Larry do it. They get Larry in that motherfucker for a week, and your boss come back to you know what? Larry wasn't it, man. Larry wasn't it? Yeah. You think you could come on back? Hell, no.

Oh, Joe, don't play me like, just hold on. Did you just tell me as hard as the economy is right now and these God forsaken times, that people can just turn down jobs and the holidays right around the corner?

Holiday around the corner.

Exactly. So guess what? When Larry did pan out and your boss come back and say, hey, you think you can feel back in what you think they're going to say with the holidays right around the corner? I sure can. That's exactly what they're going to say.

That was a horrible analogy. I'm hoping people understand where I'm coming from, but I understand I'm going to empathize with Zach because he's done all he can. You think about training camp and offseason program and all the work you put in, and things aren't panning out, and they sit you down, and all of a sudden, they try another quarterback, and you on the bench, you're like, damn, they tried me. Look at the fucking bullshit I got to deal with. And then, oh, now you want me to come back, man? Don't get me started, ocho.

I got Nathaniel high voltage 52 donated to $20. Another show, ocho. Another $20. Hey, ocho, just cause my job causes me stress, I still got to show up if I want to get paid in this damn economy. Everyone thinks I'm a cowboy hater cause of my critiques. Objective cowboy fan. Hey, Nathan, high voltage 52. Did that tell you? There's no such thing as objective and cowboy merged together? But I appreciate you, man. I really appreciate you, Nathan, watching the show, man. It means a lot to us that we have so many regular people that tune in on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays, and sometimes coming up in the very near future, we're going to have some Saturday night game. So we really appreciate it, but we understand. You're absolutely right. Just cause your boss stresses you out. If you want to get paid in this economy, mortgage, card, note, utilities, grocery.

Listen, I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it. But it's not a fair assessment to really compare the NFL athlete with us working people.

You got a job. Show your ass up and do your job. Ocho. There have been a lot of times coaches have said something, have done things. I still got to do my job. It does not absolve me of doing my job because they pissed me off, man. I'm a man. You all ain't called no plays for me last week. I ain't running a route.

Right, but you're right and you're wrong at the same time. Can I say that? Okay, listen, two things can be true.

Okay? We go agree.

But I'm still side with Zach for the disrespect of what they doing and understanding what, you know, what they disrespecting.

The jets with that play.

All right. I ain't going to say now you right. I'm going to agree with you. You right.

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And we greatly appreciate it. Ocho, I don't know if you saw this today. There's a picture going viral of a date finishing off her entire plate. What would be your thoughts if your date finished her entire plate?

That's what I'm talking about. When you go on a date. That's the problem today, man. You go on a date, women all about being cute. Yeah, they all about being cute. And I'm going to eat a little bit or I'm shy, or I'm timid. I'm scared to eat in front of. Well, you get one of them women, unc, man, listen. When you get one of the women, you take them on a date. She look at the menu, she's assertive. She know what she won't. She order food. Look at you, baby. You're good. Okay, I'm going to get in this. You need anything? No. Okay. Boom. And she going to work, man. That's what I'm talking about.

I like that.

Them your day ones. Yeah. Dim your day ones. Them the ones you keep around all the motherfucking cute shit and trying to pretend you somebody eat a salad or.

Eat half of the salad.

And I don't really do this on the first night with the drinks. I'm good. I don't want none of that. Be yourself. I don't want to meet your representative. Yeah, every time you go on a date, you're meeting somebody. Representative, please show your true colors from day one so it ain't no surprises down the goddamn line. If you're greedy, be greedy on the first date. Yeah, go ahead, be greedy on the first date.

I just know I got to work harder to make sure I feed you. Hell, I'd rather close you to feed you. You eat like that.

That's it. That's all to it, man, I never forget me and baby. Me and baby went. Obviously went on our first date, man and man. God damn. Did you eat today? Yeah, man.

I just want one time. I want one time to say, somebody tell me, say, Shannon, I'm going to take you out of dinner.

I ain't going to eat in three.

Days, when I get done with ass, you're going to think I'm Joy Chestnut. I would be like, he ate 70 hot dog. When I get done with all the plays O Joe.

Yeah.

I would have him looking at me like, who got better play? You know how that girl had ordered 48 oysters?

Yeah.

Bad.

She would tripping.

Yeah, that old be that greed. Look, I want you to be sick a order something. Eat it all, baby. I ain't judging you. If you want to get an appetizer, take off. You want to get a salad, take off. You want to get an entree?

Dang. Dang. What you said, now, what you told. I know, the chat they watching. They watch the show now, what you told the chat what come with lobster.

Oh, no, I'm talking about. No, hold on. I ain't have no bread like that then. I have no bread. No, I got a little bread now, but still don't order no lobster.

Now.

Come on now. We can get the salmon or we can get a piece of fish. We can get the Dover soul. We can get the scottish salmon. Come on now. We can be sensible now.

Okay, I'm just checking. I had the context. I had the context. Yeah.

You all coming in and trying to get the seafood tower. They got three lobster tails, four crab claws, scallops, oranges.

Yeah, come on now.

Okay, but, yeah, I wouldn't have a problem if I went on a date and she ate everything. Most of that. I mean, I'm expecting it. I mean, you said you wanted to go out to eat.

Go out to eat.

Yeah. And it's not last minute because I'm not a last minute type of a guy.

That's the only problem. Ladies, ladies, I'm sure there are a lot of women in the chat, man. If you go on a date, you're going on dates with dudes, man. Stop trying to impress, man. Stop trying to do all this. All this cute shit, man. Be yourself. Show him what he's going to have to expect. You go eat. You go eat. Be greedy. Use your fork, use your hands. All that cute.

Yeah. Ribs, those are hand foods.

Yeah.

They're not food that you cut off with a fork and do all that trying to be cute.

Yeah. As a matter of fact, if you get ribs and you get dirty, you know how the ribs be up under your nails?

Yeah.

Take your finger, take. With all the ribs and stuff on it, and the barbecue sauce, man, put in his mouth on the first date.

Now you speed. Now, we're in the night. We're in a school zone. You can't go more than 15, 20 miles an hour with a school zone. Now you're.

No, I'm not speeding. I got my seatbelt on. Yeah, I got my seatbelt on. Listen, we got to understand now. You're going on dates. You're going on dates with the sole purpose of reaching the end goal. We know what the end goal is. Ain't nothing wrong with a little foreplay before you get there.

Come on, ocho. We got to build up to that. That's like six months in. I'm going to do one of you. I'm going to pull you. I got to take my glass up on that.

Waiting six months. Hold on.

Okay, maybe six months is a little long, but you licking fingers on the first night.

Licking fingers and toes. What you talking about?

Not on the first night, Ocho.

God, man. Listen, if anybody in this chat from Miami. Listen, boy, me and rail, I could tell you our business, because we family. We family. And everybody watching. We family. And I don't have nothing to be shamed of. First night we was in Okeechobee at the executive palace, $30 room with a disco ball in the Jacuzzi. Yeah. Listen, I ain't got time to play no game with Ocho. Stay with me. Now, listen, I'm 45, 55 years old. I'm about to kick the bucket in a minute. What are you trying to do? We going to be together now. I ain't got time to be going on three dates. I ain't got time to be no 90 day rule. I ain't got time for that shit. When you go, man. I ain't got time to wait.

You go for all the old toes, elbows, and you ain't with one more left.

Listen, when you go to the car wash, you want your shit detailed, don't you? When you go to the car wash, you want your shit detailed, don't you? From the toes to the feet, from head to toe, everything back to front, everything getting touched.

Ocho, I can't get full service on the first night. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got $15. I ain't got my $15. Give it a quick watch. You go for a full detail. You get the end out the engine, everything.

Come on, o Joe. What's funny is that I have a better understanding. When you're younger. When you're younger, you're in your 20s, you're a teenager. I understand the waiting and understanding, the process and the process of getting to know. But as you get older, you understand the gray area, the in between, and the understanding that when you meet somebody, you're meeting a representative of themselves. You don't see their true colors until you've been together for three or six months. Or if they've already gotten what they wanted to attain from you, which normally, nine times out of ten, if the sex is good, they're going to be around anyway. So get it out the way. Why not get it out? Just get out the way. As you get older, you don't want to play that game no more. I ain't want to play that game. Real. Listen, we meeting. Where are we going to go to dinner? You want to go eat? We went to eight. Boom. Man. Sweetie, they got some nice rooms over here in high Leah, man. $30 rooms, man, at the executive palace. I ain't really trying to spend no money like that.

What are you trying to do? Oh, yeah. Not four years later. Where we at? We get married next year in the Bahamas, man. See how that works out that night? I ain't waste no time. You don't have to waste no time.

But the toes on the first one. On the first.

With the barbecue sauce.

I don't even really be licking my hand like that.

That's the problem, uncle. Got to live a little bit. You got to expand your horizon, man.

I got to go to the bathroom and wash your hands for you like you look. Key. Mama, wash the hand with the little kid.

Dad, wash the hand.

I got to wash your hand myself, dear.

No, you don't have to do that.

I got to do that.

Listen, I want you to be healthy, baby. I want you to be around to see 90, you got to give your immune system practice. It's okay to be dirty sometime. Give your immune system time to practice. If you always cleaning yourself, your body ain't getting no practice on the inside. Come on now.

I don't know about that one, o Joe, I'm have to get that one some thought.

Listen, I'm feeling good. We going to be on this muffler 3 hours a night because I'm feeling good.

Oh, Joe, check this out. Rail's friend, the doctor just donated $500 again. She said, happy holidays. I like to invite you as my plus one to an event hosted by one of your fellow hall of Fame brethren. I'm on the board. I will apprise rail of the details.

Cheers. Yes, sir. That's 2000. That's 2000. Listen here, I ain't never seen none like this. This is what I'm talking about, ladies, take notes. In life, it's okay to be assertive. When you see something you want, you go for it. You drop little hints, you drop little dimes, you do things that get you in the dough.

So in other words, I'm listening to you. So you like sex on the first day, the first night. You good with that? You good with sex on the first day? First day.

What you waiting for? If you're grown, what you waiting for? See, this is the problem. Now, you sit around here, wait, let's stay with me now, baby. You sit around here and you go through all these motherfucking traditional motherfucking values and morals and all that shit. You do you three months, and all of a sudden you do it and it's bad. Then what you're going to do now, you don't wasted three months of goddamn time. Wasted three months of goddamn time, and now you don't want no more of that bullshit. I waited three months for this shit, this whack. She all off rhythm and she's doing this. Come on, people in the chat, don't be laughing. I know some of you laughing because you've been through it. And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm about the first date, I'm about the first night, I'm about the first hour. That's too long. I got that kind of time. Like you say, I'm 55. I don't know how much time I need to go to get out here.

Listen, sometimes listen, different strokes for different folks, right? I'm just telling you, me, I mean, what's worked for me as I've gotten old in life and understanding all that waiting and all that going through all the rigmarole, it doesn't change the end result no matter what you do. It doesn't change the end result going to be the end result no matter what.

If I rock with you, it can be the first night, the second night. If I ain't going to rock with you, I can wait a week. I can wait a month. I can make six months.

Yeah.

It is what it is.

Yeah. There's nothing.

Ladies, look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong. If you want to wait, that's a personal preference. I'm not here to judge what you do or what you and your partner, the agreement that you guys have or whatever it is like, hey, I need 30 days. I need 45 days. I need 60 days.

Right? Listen, you could wait two years. You go wait one day. Whatever his intentions are, regardless of how long you wait, he is going to be there. If you are that r1 talk, real talk.

You make things happen for real. See, I was in a situation, like, I made reservations, and the place that I made reservations to, it called fire, so it was closed. So I call her.

Fire? Yes.

The restaurant had closed. So I call her and tell her, say, hey, look, we're not going to be able to go out to eat because the restaurant closed. Because she's like, why'd they close? I say, it burned down. You know what she said to me?

You was lying.

She said, what the f that got to do with me? She said, you that end right? You Shannon Sharp.

Whoa. She talked to you like that? For real?

She said, you that end right? She say, you Shannon sharp. You big balls McGee.

Nah, nah. That's a liability.

Make it happen. I was like, oh, really? She say, that's a liability? Hold on. You told me you was that boy dog. I had to get on the phone because ocho, I don't like. For me, I don't really like to call establishment and tell people who I am. I'll go through the proper channels. I call, can I get a reservation for such and such? If they booked up, I call and I'll get in another time. I don't really like to call and say who I am to try to get in. I don't really do that, but I know a few people. I made it happen.

Yeah.

Good thing I did.

Yeah. I don't like the way she came at you, though. I don't like the way she talked to you. I like that you did. Yeah. That was aggressive, though.

Yeah. Able a ocho. You know, I tell him if it ain't rough, it ain't me.

Okay?

Talk to me in a term that I can understand that.

Passive.

Don't be passive aggressive. Tell me what you want and if I can do it, I'm going to make it happen. If I can't, I'm going to tell you that I can't make it happen. And I ain't got no problem telling you what I can or can't do, right? Because I'm a type of guy. Promises like pie crust, thin and easily broken. I'm going to make a commitment. So if I can do it.

Hold on now. Let me write that down. Now, women, let me give a pen and paper. Yeah. If you think I ain't going to use that one on real pie crust.

Promises like pie crust, then.

And these are broken like pie crust.

So if I tell you something, I have every intention on being able to deliver that, right? So like I said, talk to me. I'm not saying be disrespectful like that, but what she was saying is that if you are what you said you were, what you proclaim to be, right.

You got to stand on that. Yes.

I know you like that. I know you can make it happen.

Right? I like that.

Okay, let's make it happen. Check this out.

I'm glad you just said that because the doctor. You listening? You're listening. He's telling you what you need to do. Be a little aggressive. Yeah, there you go.

I like that old joke. Despite being married for 15 years, Cheryl Lee Ralph is finally moving in with her husband, Vincent.

Check this out.

At 15 years, the two have been in a bicoastal relationship for 15 years. Cheryl worked on Abbott elementary and kept her anchored in LA, while Vincent responsibility had him tied to Philadelphia. But according to a source, regular visits every two weeks is no longer enough. Cheryl is moving to Philly. She will travel to LA to work, but the moment camera stops rolling, she's heading home to her husband. Wow.

Traditional values on the way things work ain't for everybody.

No.

Ms. Shirley Ralph has been smiling for 20 plus years. No issues, no problems. So she did what works for her. I think one of the problems that we always have is the traditional values in the way we are constructed to believe things are supposed to go in what society says. Normally, socially constructed things. You try to abide by a certain set of rules that don't really fit who you are.

Right?

Sometimes they don't fit who you are. You have to do what works for you. And I think that's where people make the mistake in trying to abide by those rules when they really don't align with your traditional values or whatever your values may be. Right? And this is a prime example. Well, fuck what they talk about how it should go. We going to do what work for us. And I think that's why she's been so happy for so long. And the timing of when they decided to move in.

We need more time with each. Once every other week, either I come to Philly or you come to LA. That's no longer sustainable. You need more. I need more. So now we have a meeting of the know, a contract used to be a meeting of the mind. Oh, Joe, you know what? There was no contract where you signed something. We had a meeting of the mind. Okay, I tell you what. I'm going to deliver you a dozen eggs and two pounds of cheese, and when you slaughter your hog, you're going to give me a shoulder or you're going to give me some grain, okay? That was the contract. Somewhere along the lines, you got what you were supposed to get, but didn't give me what I was supposed to get. And so now there was no longer a meeting of the mind. So now we got to put things on an eight by ten. We got to have a contract that says, okay, you're going to deliver the pound of cheese and you're going to deliver the eggs, and in return, you're going to get this. So the contract that they had with each other, and you know what, ocho?

It was able to be amended on the fly.

Right?

Because when you go into it. What am I getting into? Who is this person? Well, you know, she was an actress. You know, he had responsibilities in Philly. But you decided to tie the knot. Okay. And before they had it like, okay, so what's going to be the agreement? Am I going to stay in LA? You stay in Philly. We commute. And that worked for them for 15, right? Hell, I know people get married and they don't sleep in the same bed. Yeah, but that worked for them.

I should try that. What do you think about.

You and rail? Them been living together? Because she going to think something up. Because anytime you check that sets off a person's antenna, right?

I can't change my routine.

You start wearing different cologne, she starts wearing different cologne all of a sudden. She normally wear nice french cut boy shorts, and all of a sudden, she's wearing thong underwear.

Hold on, honey.

All of a sudden. All of a sudden, she start working out. My grandfather say, hey, boy, if a woman start working out, all of a sudden, she getting the body ready for somebody else to feel naked. I'm just saying that.

What are you saying, boy? Let me call her right now. I don't like the way that sounds.

She wants somebody else to see what her body looked like without them clothes.

Oh, well, that right there, that make me sick to my stomach.

But the thing is that, you know, right, you've been with her long enough, and that's why women can catch a guy. Because all of a sudden you start doing something different than what you've done from the day she met you. And she's going to see pattern, right? That's why we are animals, we're instinctive and we'll do the same thing. That's why elephants know. They know where to go to the war memory.

Yeah, that too.

Humans, you try to break it, but you have a motorcycle around that. You have a method in which you operate.

Operate, yeah. And mine has never changed. For years. For years. So you already know when I'm acting a fool, when my routine changes, I do the same things over and over and over. And if that pattern changes or swayed just a little bit, I'm up to no good. And she knows that. That's good. But really quick, before you even finish. A lot of the people, a lot of the women, especially a lot of the fellas, too, the context of Shirley, Ralph and them doing what works for them. I need most of you, all of you that are watching and listening, stop trying to abide by the rules that they have, I'm not going to say brainwashed, that they have constructed for us to live by. Because sometimes that might not work for you. It might not work for you. You find that, find a partner, find your one, or find somebody you're willing to spend time with, even if it ain't for the long haul. Whoever you're spending your time with, do what works for you, right? Do what works for you. Because obviously, the way they tell us it should be done, it ain't working.

Because if you look at statistics, ain't looking too well.

Consider the average marriage in the US, they said study, I think, was 2022 or 2023. The average marriage is about seven to eight years. So they've already doubled that with 15. But Anne, keep people out your business, stop telling your girlfriends everything, stop telling your family everything, and you'll be just fine.

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Oxford.

Pick Riz as the word of the year. Oxford University Press now has named Riz as its word of the year, highlighting the popularity of the term used by Generation Z to describe someone's ability to attract or seduce another person. Oh, so you got that, huh? You got that z?

What that mean? That's something new.

It's the ability to attract or seduce another person.

Okay. I like that. Ability to seduce or attract another person. I thought that was swag.

Yeah, well, you know, that was. Hold on. What is it?

To.

Charm.

Charm? Let me see, Briz. The ability to attract. Yeah, most. I mean, when it comes to women, women like a guy that carries himself a certain way.

They like confidence, they like a sense of humor.

Yeah, that's swag. That's all the part that's under.

Women like. Women like men that can make them laugh. Like a confident man that can make them laugh. If you confident. It can make a man laugh. Make a woman laugh.

Woman laugh?

Yeah. Laugh right up at him.

Flow easy.

Boy, you're so crazy.

Boy, you're funny. Okay. Yeah.

I keep my five or six over Ocho.

I just keep five or six handy.

Just in case, you know, keep them coming. Fan questions, uncultured jazz. Hey, uncle Ocho, outside of normal things, what are some of the more unrecognized things you guys go through throughout the season?

Throughout the season? Unrecognized? Yeah. Shoot. I don't really go through nothing throughout the season.

I just think that just a normal responsibility. I think the thing is, for me is that the amount of responsibility of the head of everything, my family, I'm in charge, okay? When they need something, I'm the guy. And that's why I work so hard, because I have so many people counting on me, and I don't want to let anybody down. I'm good. But I got kids. I got my brother, my sister, my mom. I've got other people, other responsibilities now. I got a team that's counting on me to show up and to do what I need to do to make sure they get their paycheck twice a month, that everybody's bills are taken care of. So I just think the thing for me is that, and it's something that I relish, is that I think every person that I've been with, probably over probably the last 15 years have pretty much told me the same thing. I don't know if a relationship is the most important thing to you. I think work and your responsibility that comes along with that is the most important. So I've tried to try to like, okay, yeah, work is important.

People are counting on me because I'm not good at multitasking. A lot of women can do a hunter thing. They can have the baby. They can be on the computer ordering this. They can be doing the stuff that you've asked them to do. I can't do any of that.

Yeah, right. Now that you've answered that and give me better context on the question that he asked, because it was kind of just really wasn't enough context in it. But the way you answered it, it's similar to the same as far as in season things I have to do, but it's such a routine that I do out of season as well, and I don't even count it. You know what I mean?

It ain't no season.

It's a yearly thing. It's a year round thing. And it has been for years because I'm used to it. Obviously, kids being important, kids tuition, those that are in school have the little ones, obviously kids in high school. So it's kind of different. That's why I said as soon as the question was asked, what else do you have to go through during, in season? I'm like, shit, nothing. Because all I got to do is just be prepared for work, because everything else outside of that is something that goes on year round for me.

Yeah, absolutely. When I had the surgeries, I had back to back hip replacement surgeries. And so now I got to focus. You got to get back on your feet ASAP and to make sure that you're still able to do what you need to do. Because I'm not an excuse guy either. I got responsibilities. I don't do the excuses. And I think my grandmother, my grandfather, that's how they raised me. We don't make excuses. You get the job done and then you don't complain about that. You had to do it. And so for me, that's what I've always done. And I have a special fondness to people that have such responsibility and do it every day with a smile on their third eye. Woke asks Ocho and Shannon, what are your thoughts on Vontez Burfik, how he played the game at the ending of his career? And also, Ocho, can you tell us about the character behind the closed doors and who he was as a person? I was gone when Vontez got into the league, so I was long gone. So all I can tell you from what I saw from a distance, you could explain to him, because you were on the roster when he got.

I was. I was gone. Yeah. Vontez is the era.

Oh, okay.

But he's supposed to been playing during your era. Vontez Berger was perfect for your era, right? More so the era I played in where you could actually play like that. Football.

Original.

You think about football, you think about middle linebackers and playing no games. When it came to playing the game of football, that's who Vontez Burford was. It wasn't accepted, obviously, once the rules came into place, came into play and protecting players and head injuries and CT and all that stuff. But I like him. I like the way he played the game.

Barn boy asked me, your knee was down at the 1 yd line on 1116. Three against the Chargers. How many touchdowns do you think would have been overturned if today's replay was in effect when you played? They had replay when I played. The Chargers could have challenged it. They said it wasn't a touchdown. I don't know what you want me to do. I was not supposed to jump into an official. Hey, man, you know I'm on the 1 yd line. There ain't no touchdown. Mark me down at the one. If they didn't think it was a touchdown, they could have challenged it, right? Look, I know when I say I played in the 90s, but there was replay. I don't know why you all make it seem like I played with a black and white tv. Like they were still on the sideline, like this. I'm 55, but I did play. I would be considered a modern day player. Any player that happened after the common draft, which I think is like 1966, is considered a modern player. So I think they would consider me a modern player. Unknocho Jared asks. Unkin ocho. Love the show.

Do you think you could do 225 for more refs than ocho? Could do 180. Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more reps than Ocho? Could do 185.

Why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 as well? What is he trying to say?

But you're only going to do it for one rep, so he's trying to give you an advantage.

225. I could do 225 27 times.

What are you talking about, ocho? I tell you what I'd be willing to do. I put up a million dollars. Say you can't do 25 to 227.

You going to run me my money? You're going to run me my money?

No chance.

This is what people fail to do. People always have an eye test. People always use the visual. Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. People always use the visual and look at something.

And you got a t shirt on.

Up under that because his frame is small.

You got a t shirt.

Shouldn't be able to do this.

You got a t shirt on up under that?

Yeah, take a shirt.

Take that off. Let me show the people.

I know a y'all. Ladies, don't be looking at me now. Yeah, let me come up at this thing. Let me come up at this thing. You see that? Look at that. I just look like this. I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong.

You ain't doing no 225 or 27.

How are you going to tell me? And I've done it. I've done 225 27 times.

No, I tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did at the combine. Pull up Ocho reps. What?

The combine ain't got nothing to do with it. You talk about right now, ocho.

First of all, this is how I know you can't do 227 because when you went to the combine, that was your. Hold on.

I didn't even lift.

Let me finish. Let me finish. The combine was when you're on the job interview, you're going to be at your absolute best. You're going to be at your fastest. You're going to be at your best because that's the job interview. You don't even lift like that anymore. I'm not so sure. You could do 225 five times.

I didn't even lift. Wasted the combine. All I needed to do was run my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my route, that was it.

That's how I know you can't do 225, 27 reps.

I'm talking about now.

Now, if you said you do 185, like, ten times, I say, oh, show, you might get that.

You might get that. I'm very strong. Despite my frame, I am extremely strong. So if you want to put that million dollars, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars, too. I'm going to do a video when I get back to Miami.

No, you're going to do no video. I'm going to be there. Bring your million with you. I only know video. I need to be there.

What I'm bringing here. I'm a video.

I only know video. I'm going to be right there in your presence. I'm going to bring a million dollars cash. You bring yours. Do we put it right there?

Wait, what I'm taking a million out for?

Because you bet me a million.

No, you said you bet. You bet the money. You bet the money. Put up.

I put up a meal. You put up a meal.

So I'm walking away with 2 million.

You walking away with 2 million?

You know what I'm a million for me and a million for rail. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holidays.

Yeah, I tell rail to put up a million, too, because I got to cover her, too. So it's 2 million.

I like that.

Yeah, I like that, too.

It's cold in Philly, man.

With $2 million, I might find me somebody.

You already got somebody. She donated you $2,000.

Hey, well, guess what? Her friend about to donate me a million. Her friend, her husband. So I'm about to have 2,002,000.

Hey, I could turn the heat on in the room. That don't count against my. No, what you call it, what they take a credit card for at the front room.

Truck incidentals.

No, the heat don't count for that.

No, you have to order room service.

Okay. It's 40 degrees. That's why I got the jacket on here. But I ain't want to turn the heat on because I thought it charged my credit card.

No, it won't charge.

Okay. Let me turn the heat on in so I can take the damn jacket off.

Make sure you click that, like, button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're at 404,000. Have we hit four or five yet? We're 25 subscribers away from 405,000. Guys, you don't know how much. Ocho and I, we really appreciate this because you've gotten us grown a lot faster than we even expected. We kind of expected to hit the numbers that we are now somewhere around March, April, maybe even June. But to be able to do this in about two months time, we greatly appreciate that. It lets us know that we're heading in the right direction. But we still, wherever you listen to nightcap at, wherever you watch us leave your reviews, let us know what you think. Would you like us to talk more about something else? Would you like us not to do this? Would you like us not to do that? Because at the end of the day, it's about. Yeah, we try to come up with topics, and obviously the sports speak for themselves. The games speak for themselves. We're going to offer you our analysis of what we thought about the game. But when you start going off topic of sports, it's kind of like what you guys want to hear.

What would you like for us to talk about? What would you like to hear our opinions on? And so how similar are our opinions to yours, and where do we differ? You agree with Ocho, you agree with me. You agree with both of us. Maybe there's a combination. I get what Ocho is saying, but I kind of agree with Shannon. I kind of get what Shannon was saying, but I kind of agree with Ocho. But that's what this is about. This is about what you would like for us to talk about. How would you like for us to go about this? So make sure you click that, like, button so you can hit that subscribe button. So anytime the uncan Ocho go live, you'll get a notification to know we're about to do this. We've also pinned Shay by La Portier at the top of the link. With the holidays right around the corner. We got Christmas, we got New Year's, and I know we got some birthdays, so make sure you go get yourself one of someone special? A bottle of shade by La Portier Ocho. What else you got to talk about? We got to get ready.

Oh, man.

At 01:00 I got inside the NFL tomorrow morning. What you got? First take tomorrow.

I got first take tomorrow. I got first take.

Okay. I'm trying to think what else.

And I got a six hour flight back to LA.

Wait, where you at?

I'm in NYC.

Oh, you right down. We could have did the show from the same room. I'm in Jersey, man.

I had a busy day today, Ocho. I did my podcast. I did club shayshe. I shot somebody today up here.

Who you had? Oh, you can't say who. You can't say who was secret.

But I think it's going to be a great one. I got a couple coming out over the next month. It's going to blow some people away because these people hadn't done an interview in a very long time, and they share some stories I'm not so sure anybody's ever heard. So I'm anxious to hear how people receive the guys that I'm having on. And I'm still shooting, but like I said, I got three or four people that people are going to be surprised. Like, dang, he own club Shayshe. Yeah, you know, like that. Yeah, man. Be trying to get that thing in. So thank you for joining another episode of club. Club Shayshe of Nightcap with Uncle Ocho. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number. 85. He's so proud. He's so happy. His team went on the road without Joey B. And got a hard fought victory in overtime. 34 31. Jake Browning was really good tonight. 32 of 37, 354 and a touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury. We don't know the extent or if he will, but it looks like he might miss some time. Ocho, which will be very costly for the Jag because they have the lead in the AFC south, but the Texans are right on their heels, and when the way CJ Stroud is playing and the way Demiko Ryans have them playing as a team, I would not be surprised if Trevor Lawrence is out for any significant period of time.

If the Houston Texans doesn't overtake them and end up winning that division, which would be a huge accomplishment, which now Demiko Ryan must be a unanimous coach of the year in CJ Stroud, even though Puka Nakua is having an unbelievable season, but 25 with the numbers that he's putting up. And I think CJ might be in top five in passing yards.

Crazy.

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I get I love y'all. Follow me on instagram.

Instagram? You're on instagram? You're on Twitter. You got any other social media account? You got a thread?

I got instagram. Follow my twitter and follow my only fans.

I don't know about all that. Leave out all the fans alone, man. Nobody want to see the picture of them feet.

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