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Subscribe button and make sure you get notified every time nightcap is on because we will be popping up sometimes unannounced. We've also pinned the shade by Laportier pin link at the top of the page. Holidays are right around the corner, so make sure you go out to get some for yourself or loved ones. Ocho, let's get right into it. The Cowboys beat the Seahawks 45 31. Dak Prescott 29 of 41 299 three touchdowns Gino Smith 23 of 41 334 three touchdown, one interception third straight. Okay, the Seahawks had three straight fourth downs that doomed them midfield selling, otherwise an outstanding offensive performance. Michael went unblocked on fourth and two. I don't know what offensive play you call and say, you know what? We're going to turn their best defensive player.

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Let him go.

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We're going to let him run unabated to our quarterback.

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And the funny thing about they did a great job blocking him the entire goddamn game except the last play when.

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It really mattered and you turned him scot free.

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Turned him scot free. So what were some of your takeaways, Ocho?

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Listen, my takeaway? Obviously, I'm not sure who slated this game before the season started, but this was the best Thursday night game by far. By none. One of the best games, actually, all goddamn season. This is one of the games where you always talked about when you don't get pick sixes and turnovers from your defense, will Dak be able to win and carry that offense? That is exactly what he did tonight. CD lamb on third down, super duper clutch. He had one drop on that fourth and two. He said my bad. But other than that, Dak showed why his name should be in the mvp conversation and why he is one of the best. You don't like me using the word elite, but his play the past few weeks is just that. It's been elite, especially tonight. Tonight is when you needed dac to show. Listen, my defense is not playing that well, Gino, when that offense is marching down the field. DK Metcalf was going crazy, boy, he was going crazy.

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And dad season on bland tonight, ocho. They put seasoning on bland.

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Listen, they put a little season, but he took a bite out of you, though. He took a bite of him, especially title locker, ran that lazy ass out.

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Route and bland once again picked it right off.

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Ocho, tell me, what's the only route.

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You'Re going to run from that split?

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Yeah, you start leaning with it, from the joke.

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Yeah.

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Oh, he would lean it.

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He would lean heavy.

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Hey, he would lean. Hey, he would lean like fat Joe.

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Yeah, but he was the Cowboys. What I saw tonight, ocho, the way I measure a team, if you're good offensively, if you're good defensively, can you get done what you need to get done when you have to? When dak needed a touchdown to take.

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The lead, what did they do? They went and got it. Yes, sir. The defense.

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Okay, you say you like that.

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Can you get a stop?

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Not only can we get one, we're going to stop them three times in a row on fourth down at midfield.

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Yeah.

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That's the mark of a team. And like you said, defensively, you're not going to always have it. So. Okay, offense, our defense don't got it tonight. They're not going to get a five turnover. They're not going to sack Gino six or seven times. So when we get our opportunities, we're.

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Going to have to cash.

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And that's what they did tonight. That's the mark of a good football team. A really good football team, because can I go get done what I need to get done when I absolutely have to have it? And the offense. Touchdown. Field goal. Field goal. Defense.

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Stop.

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So I was very impressed with what I saw last night, and considering we just saw the 49 ers beat the brakes. Beat the brakes off the Seahawks.

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Yeah.

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And so I was expecting the Cowboys to pretty much do the same thing because you and I both know how hard it is for the division opponent. No matter how sorry the division opponent is, no matter how good you are, it's just something about playing at a division opponent that know, you know your tendencies, know what you like to do. And so it makes it a lot tougher.

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But give the Seahawks credit.

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They came in nice, did a great.

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Job, probably should have won the game because on one of those drives, the.

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Cowboys, they got five penalty. They kept the drive alive with penalty after penalty. I think they have five penalty for 22 yards passing it. But give the Cowboys credit, ocho, they played well. They did what they needed to do. Again, ocho, they were four eight in the red zone. Now you play the 49 ers, you're going to get beat. You go four eight in the red zone.

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Right.

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You play the Eagles, you're going to get beat. You go four eight in the red zone, but they play well. I like what I saw from the Cowboys tonight. Give them ready now they got ten days off to get ready.

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I think they got the Eagles coming.

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Up in ten days.

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Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, don't they have the Eagles?

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So what do you think about Dak being in the MVP conversation?

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He should.

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Okay, so I think he had 23 touchdowns and six interceptions. So now he has 26 and six. Yeah, he'll be in the MVP discussion and rightfully so. Yeah, absolutely. I think Lamar Jackson is going to be in the MVP discussion. I think Jalen Hurst will be in the MVP discussion. Christian McCaffrey will be in the MVP discussion.

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CJ shroud got to put his name in, I think.

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I don't know if he's going to have enough wins ocho, to really kind of garner because the stats are going to say yes. I mean, he's second in the league in passing yards, so his stats are going to say yes. I just don't know if he's going to have the wind total little that would warrant the real attention going to him. Now they mess around and win the, who knows? They win the AFC south, which are going to probably take 1011 wins. Who knows, all bets could be off. I think Tyreek will end up being in that discussion. But here's the thing, ocho, you know what happens. The wide receiver has 2000 yards. The quarterbacks got to have at least 45 to 5000 yards.

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Yards.

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Yeah.

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So they will be chipping each other. They chopping each other boats up. But yeah, Dac definitely should be in the MVP discussion considering the way he's played, especially the last month and a half, two months of the season. Yeah, absolutely.

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Playing real good football. And on the flip side, Gino played.

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A hell of a game.

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DK Metcalf played a hell of a game. I want to see. Even though they lost. Even though they lost. And I know DK going to see this. I need you to take over games like that.

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Weekend and week out, week in and week out.

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I need you to do exactly what you did tonight. I don't care who you plan. You have to impose your will on everybody you play. If it's offensive coordinator, if you got to talk to Gina, if they got to move you around a little bit more, you got to show up like that every time y'all play, man. And you make that offense go, that.

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Offense need to go through you, ocho.

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You know, sometimes in games like this, it come down to a minute. You remember that play they had Lockett, and Lockett was lazy getting out the break, and Gino hit him in the head and the ball. Now you're going to get the ball on 20 yard line with a first down.

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That was a beautiful timing through, man. He let the ball go before he even came out the break. That was beautiful.

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Yes.

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And that's why what the quarterback always said, you got to snap that head.

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Around before anything else.

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The head got to come around.

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It's got to O Joe.

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But see, my head had to come.

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Around fast because I was playing with a strong arm quarterback, right? So if you was lazy with your head, he go hit you upside the head, and the people laughing at you like, oh, look at you. You think you play a soccer, the ball all upside you, hit you all upside your head. So he was a little lazy with.

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It, and he knew it.

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He knew it.

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It, yeah.

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But that's the difference.

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That when you're a team that win.

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Ball games, your guys make those plays. When you lose in ball games, you find ways to miss those plays. Let's go talk about Tyreek. Tyreek said he felt like the side chick. He went on RG three's podcast, and I don't know if he's joking. He was serious. He's patting Kelsey. I was kind of jealous. I was hurt, bro.

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I was hurt.

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Patrick, you ain't never invited me over to your house like you did Kelsey. You always invited Kelsey, and that's why we're here. Where we at now? I've never been anybody's side chick before. Never. Always in my whole life. High school, middle school, all the quarterbacks, I was their main chick, always. I go to KC, and now I'm the side chick.

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Hey, that's funny. That's funny. Tyreek, obviously, Tyreek being very, being very facetious. You take what he's saying with a grain of salt. Little humor, a little comedy to it. But I understand what he's saying his security blanket. It is Travis Kelsey, and it always has be and always will be. But Tyreek, again, being as special as he is, he made that offense even more special than what it already was. He made it more special and dynamic than already was. Obviously, you can see it's still struggling a little, know with the ups and downs that they're having now. Not having a true number one receiver that can only, not only take the top off a defense, but can run those intermediate routes, can run those shallow routes and bounce his head off the goal post from anywhere on the field, that's special. That's why anytime I talk about Tyreek, I always put him in a category completely by his goddamn self, because we've never seen anything like that before other than mean.

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It's funny.

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I love his sense of humor, too. He's one of the few players that is playing today that keeps the game entertaining, and it forces you and makes you want to tune in to see what's next.

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Did Carson ever invite you over to his.

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No.

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No, because they know I wouldn't go. They know I wasn't showing up. Listen, when we leave that stadium, I'm doing two things.

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I'm going to cigar bar, I'm going.

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To the jazz club, listen to some jazz sets, or I'm on my video game. I'm not doing nothing else. Don't invite me to your house because.

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I'm not showing.

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Mean. We used to go early in my career. We had a teammate tied in, teammate named Reggie Johnson. And his girl would cook, and she was an excellent cook. And we go over there, shoot pool, play cards. That was the thing. We play in Tonk. We playing Bou Ray.

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What you know about Tonk, man?

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You know about all that. But I was not a guy big into going to other people's house, right? That wasn't my thing. I kind of like, I see you guys there at work, and so once.

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I leave work.

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I want to go do my own thing. I want to be to myself. We go. Mean, occasionally we went out. I wasn't a big go out type of a guy either, but I get it. I mean, I get some guys, they hung out, they went to each other's house, but that wasn't my thing. Ojo either. I wasn't big enough to go in the teammates house either.

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Yeah.

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The funny thing about once you get outside, now, what I did do, we didn't hang out at each other's houses, but the receivers, the receiver room, we did some things together. Sometime we'll go to dinner. We'll go to dinner and chop it up, do some things of that nature. But going to someone's house and just nothing wrong with it, I didn't do.

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Well, I think they said. Well, when Mike got there, what we did do is that he would have what they call casino night. So once you break, and the guy that was going to make the team, he'd have a casino night. So they have blackjack, they have craps table. They have all that. And so everybody invited everybody over to come there with his wives. They're having all this food, and everybody would show up. And that was really fun. So because we got an opportunity to win some really nice prizes, pearl necklaces and trips, vacation things like things of that thing. Mike was big on team bonding. So we go to training camp. We'd have a day.

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We go bowling.

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We have a day. So it'd be offense against the defense. So you get your ten best offensive players, the ten best defensive players, and we bowl against each other.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Then we'd have a fishing derby. Whoever catch the first fish. Whoever catch the most fish. Whoever catch the biggest fish. Oh, yeah. Mike was big into that. He would give us like, okay, guys, had a great week of practice. We have good day. Couple of days of practice, I'm going.

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To give you the night off. Don't get eight. Don't get in any trouble. Right.

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We go, guys go to the movies. Guys back in Greeley, this place called the smiling moose. Guys would go up there, blow up a couple of little steam, have a couple of drinks. But it was great. Mike was big. Mike was big in the team building team. Get the pay, get the guy, know the guy.

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Other.

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Besides that he played D line and that his number is 95. Know something about the guy, know somebody. He got kids, he got mom. Yeah. Know something about him. So that's one aspect of it that I really appreciated about Mike.

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I like that casino night idea. The only part, I wish I could have been a part of something like that, something to that magnitude. Because I think if there was ever been a time where I would gamble, actually spend a little money for a change, it would have to be, he.

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Gave you money, so he'd give you, like, fake money.

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Yeah.

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So you would come and he'd give you, say, like, I think, like $3,500.

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Oh, real money.

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No, but the money was fake. But you get an opportunity. Whoever have the most money at the end of the night get to buy.

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Prizes with the fake money.

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Yeah. So you get an opportunity to buy the pearl necklace or the diamond necklace or the trip somewhere. So that's how we did that. So what we do, you know, your boy had to hook that thing up. You know, your boy good with the dice. Your boy good at blackjack. So a couple of guys say, hey, sharp, this is what we go do.

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We're going to give you our money.

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Go ahead and make that thing work for you. I'm looking to flip. I'm going to hit a lick now, you know your boy, right? Rolling them dice.

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Nine. My point.

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Born in 54, died in 63. What's my point, ocho?

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I give it.

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That thing was lit. You know what Ocho and I tell people? That's what you miss. The game is the game and the money. I miss things like that bus ride, the casino night, the fishing derby, the bowling. Those are the things that you. Because you're never going to be able.

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To do that again. Nah, you're never going to be there.

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To do that again.

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You can't simulate it either. And you can't replicate, no matter how much you try.

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You can't because, you know, hey, guys are competitive. You might start off bulldiving, but now you go up there to bowl the guys in your ear. The guy doing the worm, he moonwalking. You know what I'm saying? He's doing all kind of stuff to try to throw you off your game. They yell at it, come on, bro, you can't be yelling in the bullet. They yelling and screaming. They throwing stuff up in there. Throw the towel, they eat. Those are the days. Ocho, check this out. Tyree got two stories today. Tyree says he'll cover the salary of the videographer that was suspended by the NFL. Kevin Fitzgibbons, a 20 year old university of Miami student, had been working Dolphins game since 2022, released a video how the league disciplined him after Tyreek used his phone to celebrate a touchdown.

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Black backflip.

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Ms. Givens said after Tyreek celebrated with his phone, he sent the video to the NFL, but then later was notified he would be suspended for the remainder of the season and possibly for good because he had to be disciplined. They said, guess what they suspended for?

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Because he jumped up and down.

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Listen, the NFL, obviously, it's all about control. Yeah, it's always been about control. It's always been about control. They pick and choose when they want to enforce certain rules depending on who it is. At this point, it's ridiculous, man. This is entertainment again. Tyreek being one of the most entertaining players in the league in the game today, getting someone that's a part of the NFL involved in something that you want a celebration. Not only was it a celebration, it was a very creative celebration, one that had never been done before. And you want eyes tuned into the games. And that is what he's doing. This is a game about entertainment. So when someone chooses to do just that, entertain, why do you find them for it? And now you have someone losing their job. And from what I understand, I think Tyreek is going to.

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Yes, he's going to cover the guy's salary.

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He's going to cover the guy's salary for the year.

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Guess what they did. Guess what they did when you said.

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That video to him. They released it, didn't they? On all their course, they did. You so upset at the guy, why.

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You put it out? Yeah, it's the same thing. Go ahead, ocho.

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Go ahead.

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You know why they put it out?

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Because it's entertainment. It's going to get eyes.

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It's going to get the fans engaged. It's going to get everybody watching, which makes no sense. The powers that be, the people that sit up there in positions of power with the suit and ties, this is what you want for your game. This is what you want players doing. Now, maybe, you know what? You tell Tyreek. Listen. Or you tell the guy. You can't be doing that. You can't be having your phone and flipping boom. I understand.

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But you don't suspend a guy for.

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Exactly what you want.

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Exactly.

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So what you expect the guy to do? The guy, 20 years old, some NFL player, not just some Tyreek Hill, just took my phone, did a backflip, doing a selfie. You don't think I'm about to be excited? I'm a dolphins. At the end of the day, I don't care what anybody tells you. Whomever works in the NFL office, they have a team. And when their team scores, they celebrate. When their team does something good, they celebrate.

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Most definitely.

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Most definitely.

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And I think the excuse. The excuse they definitely suspended because they jump around. Yes, bulldive.

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It was bulldive.

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And they would never be honest on why they did. But the NFL, the powers that be, I'm sure you guys are going to see this. You see everything that we do.

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Let's do what's right.

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If at any moment or any chance you have, let's do it right for the young fellow man and get him.

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His job back and give him a raise because you embarrassed the man. You told me. Oh, we've got to discipline you. Why? Tell me why. You got to do?

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What did he do?

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He didn't disrupt the game. He didn't run on the field. He didn't run on the field. And hand Tyreek the camera. Tyreek came and took the camera out of his hand.

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Yeah.

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He's like, because I couldn't believe it, because I'm telling my team, Tyreek just scored a touchdown and did a black backflip while taking a selfie. Yeah, I'd have been jumping up and down, too.

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Unheard of. That's unheard of.

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Just the creativity, the authenticity of what he was able to do is unheard of.

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It shouldn't be.

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It's ridiculous at this point.

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It's to say, ocho.

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I see.

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I know. You remember when they used to have big hits and jacked up, they packaged that package that for years, and then all of a sudden, when guys say for concussions and they wanted money, well, what you all been packaging jack up and greatest hits for 60 years.

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Yeah, but that all ends when you got to come out of pocket.

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It all ended.

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Dion Sanders wins si sportsman of the year was Dion winning the SI war the right choice? I guess they stopped the voting in September. Oh, that's what the people are saying. The people are saying they stopped. No, I guess because they said he was four and three and one, and now all of a sudden he had this losing streak. So therefore, basically, he should be disqualified from being SI sports person.

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Absolutely not. He deserves exactly what he do. He deserves to be on the COVID on the SI cover. What he was able to do at that program in such a short amount of time. They went one in eleven last year. They went 111 last year. I understand he went three and over or three and one or four and one, or whatever it might have been, and he lost the last eight. But still, to be able to go.

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Into a program like that, bring your.

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Own luggage with you and change it for the better, and it will only continue to get better, because with the portal, and then when the season ends, you have transfers and all that other stuff that goes on. And he told you before the season.

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Started, what do I need to compete?

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What do I need to compete? I need Oline and D line. I need my meat and potatoes.

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That is the only way I'm going.

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To be able to compete.

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So we understand the landscape of what.

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He has and the roster that he has. He doesn't have a roster to compete with the UCLAs or the USCs or the Oregons or the Utah teams of that magnitude.

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But once he gets them in, you're.

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Going to continue to see that record improve year in and year out. I'm not sure why people are upset that he won that award.

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Who else you're going to give it to? Think about it.

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Tell me who else you're going to give it to except another team that.

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Wins every single year. What college?

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What college?

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Don't necessarily. I don't think Sia has to be a college coach. Maybe people think Nicola Jokic could have won it. Like I said, I don't know the candidates who was up for the award?

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The right person won the award. The right person won the award, especially was able to do it in such.

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A short amount of time at a horrible, previously horrible program.

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LeBron James says he'll miss the Lakers game to watch Bronnie's college debut. I already told my teammates that if they're playing the same day we're playing I'm going to catch them the next game. Family over everything.

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Yeah. What is your take on this? You got damn right. Shit, I miss a game, too.

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I would definitely miss a game. He got 82 of them anyway. And missing one ain't going to hurt. Especially to see your son. His first collegiate basketball game.

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Absolutely.

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And the funny thing about it is.

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I'm not sure if anybody will actually have a problem with LeBron missing a game to see his son play, being who he is.

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I'm sure they would. You think they would?

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I think some would. Because the simple fact is that you sign up for stuff like this, you're going to miss recitals. You're going to miss. Sir, let me ask you a question. If it's a playoff game, game seven, you missing it.

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What is saying game seven?

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Hold on. You said family over everything. So if it's family over everything, it's family over everything in all situations. So again, let me ask you. Playoff game, game seven, NBA Finals, you missing it.

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That's different. I don't think he's missing.

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Ain't family over everything. It just so happened to be so.

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He's looking at these games.

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He's looking at these games regular, like I said, me, I would, because I'm going all in, Ocho, you already know. You hear me talk. You know how I am about football. You know how I'm about any sport. I give him my all nightcap. Like I said, I spent 300,000 on Laker season ticket and went to one game.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Wait a minute.

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Come on.

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Come on back home to me now. Come on back home to me now. I told you about spending money like that. You spent 300,000 on Laker tickets.

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How many games have I been to, Ocho?

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I don't know, because I don't watch basketball.

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One.

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So my daughter took my daughter. It was my daughter's birthday.

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I took on a Thursday.

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I signed up to do nightcap. I signed up to do nightcap with.

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You Sunday, Monday, Thursday.

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Oh, so you missing out on the game because our union.

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Because this is what I signed up for.

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But you know what?

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You are right.

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I don't care what they say about you, boy. You are right with me. Now, if you want me to fight, I could come to LA. I could do nightcap right there next to you so we can go to the Laker game. Because I ain't got no problem. Let me know. I don't want you to waste no 300,000. What tickets cost that much?

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Bad Mr. Lakers. I don't know who paid for the ticket at Philly, but it's a whole different animal right here, bro.

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It's a whole different animal.

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Yeah.

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Doug works a magic with some magic.

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300,000?

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Yeah.

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Like, for season tickets?

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Yeah. God damn, for two.

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So all the people be at the core side of the liquor game. They got money like that.

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You see who be sitting down there, don't you?

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Yeah.

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Everybody wearing paddocks, everybody wearing aps, everybody wearing rollies, everybody iced out. Yeah, they got it like that.

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Yeah.

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Listen, I never forget, I sat course side with my son. My son was little. He might have been maybe five or six. Me, I sat next to Denzel. This was years ago. I'm not playing around. I'm sure you could find a picture. You could google it, just pop it up. And that was the last time I sat. Bus actually gave me those tickets back then. This so long ago, because my son was yay high. He got a picture with Kobe, man. My son might have been five or six. Yeah, I never forget that.

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But hold on, that's 300,000 for only, like, 22 games. Whoa, whoa.

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You said 20.

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Wait a minute.

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You said courtside for 20 games? Yeah. There's 42 games. It's 41 games.

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Oh, okay, well, you play 41 on the road, right? 41 at home.

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Okay, I thought you said 20. I thought you said 21.

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I'm like, whoa.

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Yeah, that's what I got.

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I got 21 games, and somebody else got 20 games.

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Oh, so you don't got the whole 40?

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The whole 40 would have cost you about 750,000.

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Oh, hell no, man. You bullshit, man.

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You know I wouldn't lie to you about that, ojo.

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You got me thinking. You got the whole 41, 41 home game.

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No, we had a lottery system. I pick a game, he pick a game.

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I pick a game, he pick a game.

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Nah, man, they got me fucked up, man.

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But I'm just saying, ocho. God, I signed up to do nightcap Sunday night, Monday night, and if there's a game on Friday, Friday night, if there's a game on Saturday, Saturday night, Monday night, that's what I signed up for.

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Right?

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It doesn't call for me to say, okay, you know what, ocho? That was a one off. Had that not been my daughter's birthday, right? And at the time when I got the tickets, I didn't even know we were going to do a nightcap. I got the tickets way before I had purchased the ticket, because I was like, oh, your boy going to be a. Your boy going to be sitting at that court side. I'll be there all the time.

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They go like, yeah. And then I get.

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Then they're like, okay, nightcap is a possibility. You and I talk. We have a meeting. Like, okay, but I'm already at 300 grand.

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Yeah, okay.

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What am I going to do? So I said, baby, she's like, dad, because she told me. She said, dad, I appreciate that. Because she's like, I know you don't miss work for nothing.

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You don't miss work for, like, I don't. She's like, I ain't got that kind.

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Of work as a deck because I miss my job in a bit. I say, I don't, baby, but that's the way I'm wired. And so, although I understand LeBron's decision, I'm not sure. I don't think I would have done that.

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Right.

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I get what you're saying, but everybody's different, ocho.

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Like you said, everybody's different.

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You say, hey, I'm gone. Oh, yeah, I'm gone.

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I'm gone.

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I'm definitely gone.

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But, boy, man, I'm out of there, bro.

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Let's just say for the sake of our. If my sister had called me and told me my grandmother had passed and it was a Saturday night, I would.

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Have played that Sunday, because I already.

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Know what she going to want. She was like, I'm already there, boy. What you going to do? She's going, what you going to do?

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Right?

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Go take care of what you need to take care of. Your granny going to be right here. That's our mentality. My grandfather died.

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I missed a day of the funeral.

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What you sent home for doing what, that's been my mentality. But LeBron James, am I surprised he's doing it? Absolutely not. I am not surprised one iota, but I probably feel some kind of way.

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Bro, you are best player. Yeah.

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We need you.

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Especially a regular season game. We got 80. I mean, you could stand. And based on what LeBron has accomplished and who he is as a father and understanding the makeup and how he moves in general, as a father, man, shit, I ain't saying nothing.

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I tell you.

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Bron, go ahead. If I play for the Lakers, man, go ahead, bro.

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I got you tonight.

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What time the game start? Because I have my Laker uniform on. Go there, kid. Brought it. Go there. Ken. Brought it. Get a couple points, then I head right on back to the Lakers game.

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That'd be dope.

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But I think that, you know what? As I look back and think about what he went through. Yeah, Bronhill, I take the whole week off. Now. I wasn't even thinking about what Bronnie went through. Hell, this moment, like, not even happened. This hell you talking about? I would have told them nothing.

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Right? They'd be like, hey, where LeBron James at? Right there.

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Where you're with USC. Right down right. That's my boy. Considering Ocho, considering the scare that they got, given what Bronnie had gone. Right.

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Yeah. Miss that mug. See, I ain't going. Ain't going. I'm not. Yeah.

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I forgot about what HeBroni had gone through. Check this out, ocho. I got Keith Lee, a Texas bakery. The puttery went from just five customers per day to having lines around the block.

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After Keith Lee gave store owner Nell.

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Pratt a stellar reviews for her dessert, I guess she had told him some days she would have only two customers.

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Damn.

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He came, gave it going. Reviews, lying around the block.

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I like it. I like it.

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But I got one problem, though.

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What? I told Keith Lee, and I know.

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He saw my video. When you start going back doing reviews, let me know so I could do the goddamn review with you. And he's still doing reviews, and I'm still at home.

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No, he don't want to do no review with you. Why?

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He's a.

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Cause. Because what? You question that man.

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Question that man.

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Question that man. I just said, you know the bad critiques. You know how I feel about that, man. I'm giving everybody the glory.

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No, but you can't do that. Because if you give everybody a good review and the food ain't no good, now, ocho, now you damaging your everybody experience is different.

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That's like dating one woman and you tell your friend, but you don't want to date her. And then he had a time of.

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Her life with her.

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Yeah, hold on, hold on. Did I date her first? You told me you had a time, but you dirty man. I can't do that, ocho. Hell, no.

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That might have been a bad analogy, but I'm just saying.

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No, it's not. No, it's not.

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You get what I'm saying? Okay. I was just saying, when I think about the service industry, I want people to stay with me, the people that are watching. When I think about the service industry in general, especially us, when it comes to us in doing anything and how difficult it is for us to have anything, to have it up and running and to get us to support each other, because you know how we are when it comes to us. Everything has to be immaculate. It has to be perfect and top notch, and sometimes it's not always like that. Not always like that. Which is why I would always want those reviews to always be given in a positive manner, because we're very fickle. We're very fickle as a society and as a community. And that's all I was saying. But what Keith Lee is doing is fucking amazing. And I promise you, if Keith Lee doesn't take me on his next trip or visit whatever state he's going to, we gonna fight.

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Well, I guess I ain't got to.

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Worry about coming to my house and eating because they saw my dog sitting on my lap when I was at Thanksgiving dinner.

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People was mad about that.

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I saw that.

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You said it the last show. You said, nothing comes before your dogs, including the woman coming into your life.

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She has to accept that. Yes.

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And people say, your grandma, bro, do you know, like, my grandma know I.

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Had the dogs and they'd be at the table, right? Yes.

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My grandmother knew that.

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Yes.

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When I grew up, ocho, we did not have dogs in the house. We had dogs that they were tied up under the shed. My grandfather had dogs. My uncle had hunting dogs, had bloodhounds, blue ticks, red bones. You know the term red bone? You know, that came from.

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That's a dog. Yeah, that's a hunting dog. Red bone.

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A red Bone is an actual hunting dog. That's where the term that they refer to women as. That's where the term came from.

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Okay.

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Yes, blue ticks. Yes.

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We have black and tan trio.

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Yes.

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My uncles and grandfather had all those dogs, but they were in pins or they were chained up because hunting dogs, you had to have them in a pin because they get on the trail or something and they gone. So they get the tracking right.

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It's a rap. Gone. Right.

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So, yes, my grandmother had no problem once I got dog.

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As a matter of fact, I had.

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Two rottweilers, Kane and Killian. I had them in Denver with me. And then I went to this place, and they wouldn't let me have dogs over a certain size. I sent the dogs to my sister and my wanted. When I came home, I wanted to bring the dogs with me to Atlanta. My grandma said, no, you can't take these dogs. I said, granted, but they my dogs, I pay for them. She said, so you shouldn't have let.

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Me and your sister have given.

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No Indian given.

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So she was cool with the dog. I had the dog on the table. They make it seem like the dog. Everybody else has served their food. The dog was sitting in my lap in front of my food.

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Right.

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And all you all talking, you all women.

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What you think that hair.

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That's not your hair. What do you think that hair will be at on the table?

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Okay.

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Why you all over there bumping your gums, shedding over everything?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Now, I got that off my chest. I'm good.

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Now, I like.

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Hey, I like what you're doing now.

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Why you, buddy? You all are not going to come between me and my dog. Me and my dogs and my family.

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Because everybody knows how I get down.

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Hey, I like abo you stand on business by them goddamn dogs, man.

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Okay, I see you. I see you. Okay.

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Now, if my grandmother would have had a problem with it, I'm never going to be disrespectful to my grandmother. If she says, shannon, I don't want the dogs in the house. The dog's not coming in the house.

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Yeah, at my house, it's just like.

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Oh, Joe, my mom used to smoke. I said, mom, you can't smoke in the house.

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In the back porch and smoke. Okay, that's my mom.

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But she respects my house. Okay. Yeah, that's my grandmother's house. Yes. Me and my brother bought that, but I got too much respect for her. They're like, hold on, I'm paying. No, I wouldn't even come into my grandmother's house after midnight, right? I would not even bring a girl and sleep in my grandmother's house when I come home.

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I stayed at the hotel, right?

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I didn't sleep in my grandmother's house with a woman because I got too much respect for. Even though she said, baby, hey, it's okay. You pay for the house. No, Grant, I got too much respect for you to lay up with a woman in your home. That's not going to happen.

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We're going to go to the hotel. It's okay. Yeah.

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It ain't no risk card, and it's.

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Not the four Seasons, but guess what?

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It's a respect factor that I had for my grandmother that I'm not coming in the house after midnight. Never, ever have I ever set 1ft in my grandmother's house after midnight. From the time I was able up to go out from 13 or 14 to I'm 25, 35, 40, never. And that wasn't going to happen then. I've never had a woman in my granny's house ever. No.

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Not to have sex. No.

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I ain't say to have to meet my grandma.

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Yeah.

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No, ocho, no. You know how it is in the south. I don't know. I can't speak for everybody else. But I know where I'm from, that's the utmost respect. I could not in good conscience lay up my grandmother down the hall, and I got a woman laying up in my.

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You know, I'm from. Obviously, you know, I'm from the city. I'm from city. And, you know, people that know me or know my grandma very know she ain't play that.

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She ain't play that.

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She was a school counselor. She was a teacher. She worked for the Dade county public school system. So you already know she in church.

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Every Sunday, on Wednesday in bible study.

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I don't need to tell you no more. So you already know what time it is? You already know what time it is.

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Bring who in her house, man, shit, jamita.

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Ain't nobody sleeping there.

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No, listen, I ain't even sitting here, stunt. But I had to be in the house before the goddamn street light came on. When that street light start flickering and she come on that porch and call.

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My name.

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I better be in distance.

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Wackahill. Yeah.

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We have no street light. We had that light to come on once it got dark, but we'd be shooting basketball. But now, look, my uncle, guys that was dated my aunts when they came over to date my aunts, you know, my grandfather told him, right? He said, oh, nobody has sex here.

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But me and the girl's mom. Don't play that with me.

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All that sneaking it.

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Barney Porter didn't play that. Straight up.

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I tell you what. Go to Glenville right now. Anybody my age, from 50 to 75.

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Yeah. Ask him about Barney Porter. He ain't play. Ain't play.

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That's what. Matter of fact, ain't no play. He said, grown men don't play. He said. I remember, ocho. He said, you know what? The way you play, everybody don't play how you play, right? So be careful playing with people.

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Okay? Yeah.

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All that playing. You see all these people on social media, pranking people. Okay?

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That's how you play.

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That's how you play. Everybody don't play like you play.

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That's a dangerous game.

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That's a dangerous game.

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Ocho. I got slapped so hard one time, you know, when I was know people.

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Just your mama.

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Yeah, man, I was working in the field, ocho, and I'd never forget Henrita and somebody gonna cut this clip up and send it to in Glenville, man, I told Henrietta, she said something.

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I said, your mama, her sister. Yeah, bail.

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Her name Maybell. We call her bail, man. Bail. Slapped a taste out my mouth. I said, what you slapped me for. I said her mama. She said, we got the same damn mama.

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Mama.

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I ain't do that no mo.

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Yeah.

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I ain't do that no more, ocho.

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Yeah.

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So you playing how you play?

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Playing?

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Yeah.

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Everybody don't play how you play now?

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They don't play the same.

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Exactly.

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Ti pulled up on a club in Atlanta using the pictures of his son to promote a party. They weren't played for, they weren't paid for. He said, don't play with me in this city.

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You know better than that.

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You know better than that.

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You know better than make a mockery of a family situation like that with.

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A staple of Atlanta.

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Why even play? That's like, come on, what are we doing?

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What are we doing?

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Listen, I like that ti stood on business. I like that he stood. Am I using that terminology right? I'm old. I'm just trying to make it right.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad he stood on business and confronted those people. They know they were dead wrong for that man.

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You try to promote something, okay? You want to promote the man, pay the man.

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Yeah.

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And matter of fact, I don't even think they would be able to afford his fee.

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Let's start there.

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Don't put the man and son in it. Don't put the man and his son on the fly, then.

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Trying to be funny, trying to attract attention, knowing that if you put that on the fly, what everybody going to do?

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They go, hey, tip. Hey, man, you at such and such.

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You hosted such and such.

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Yeah. What you talking about that, too? Yeah, and get people to come.

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Right.

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I can see if you in Miami or you somewhere else.

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Okay, tip, man.

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Nah. Hell nah. He got to pick up a phone. You can't play with that man in there.

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A nah.

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Because he going to pull up.

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Yeah, and he did.

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Rightfully so.

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He did just that, too. He's supposed to. You think they changed it?

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I don't know what happened. They don't play with ti now. T I. But t I usually about that real.

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They know Tip.

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They know tip in the.

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Yeah, I know.

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Do you think some elite athletes in college all of a sudden go to the NFL and forgot how to play football?

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Especially qbs? No. Do you say elite? Yeah.

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See, ocho, and this is what I've always tried to explain to people, just because you're good in high school doesn't mean you're going to be good in college. Just because you're good in college doesn't mean you're going to be good in the NFL. Everything is not transferable everybody thinks that all of a sudden. Well, he was a good running back in college. Well, he was a good wide receiver or quarterback.

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No. Yeah, it don't work like that.

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And there were some guys that were.

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Okay, and then you're like, how the.

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Everybody is not going to have a.

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Stellar career like Peyton Manning come out.

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Top notch with number one recruited player when he came into college. He was the number one overall draft pick in I leaves with five mvps, a Super Bowl MVP and two Super bowl titles. And he had all the records, passing yards, passing touchdowns when he left the game. Everybody's not going to have it like that. And so we get so, man, oh, you see a mocho, that boy going to be bad in the NFL. Why you say that? Because he bad in college?

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No, it's different.

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It's different. I don't think people understand the significance.

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And the jump in talent. Yes. Once you get to the NFL, you.

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Are literally the best of the best in the world.

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And considered the 1%, the 1% at your job, out of billions of people in the world, like, think about that.

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I never thought about it that way. You're the best of the best. So when we talk about some of these players that are the best of what they do, the Tyree kills, your C d. Lambs, your dak Prescott, your Patrick Mahomes dog out of billions in.

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The world, you are the one, the best, the best.

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And it's just such a huge jump. And the transition doesn't always translate when you leave college to the NFL because the level of talent is damn near equal. Yes, it's damn near equal. The only thing that separates you, probably.

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Where you get an edge is mentally and being technically sound. Yeah.

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You got to believe.

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Yeah.

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I believed that when I stepped on the field, I was the baddest mofo out there.

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Yeah, I believed.

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I was. I believed that everything that I had endured up until that point had prepared me for that moment. So there was nothing I was going to encounter on the field that I hadn't already faced a more difficult time coming up.

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Right.

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So now I had to put the work in. I had studied, I had done everything.

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That's what.

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See ocho? And I'm like, hold on, I'll give you a play. Last night. Tonight, Seattle got stopped on fourth down. Okay, what does game tape tell you in third and one or fourth and 1d law? DeMarcus Lawrence like to pinch inside. He likes to cross the guy's face. Okay. The guy, the safety, walked down on the line of scrimmage. Where the hell you think the d line going inside? Force everything to bounce to the safety and then the tight end let the safety beat him. I'm like, bro, what do y'all watch? Do y'all watch tape d law? And I haven't even broken d law down. I'm just watching game copy. Just watching him week in and week out because the Cowboys, I know we're going to talk about the Cowboys.

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Just watching him third and one, fourth and 1d law crossing somebody's face because.

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I want to force it to bounce it.

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I'll be down.

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I do say bro. I'm like, bro, come on now.

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Yeah.

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I just don't get it. Ken full nask, there are only three numbers retired in Denver. Do you think Denver will ever retire? 84 or 30 unt deserve it?

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I doubt it.

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At one point in time, I was like, man, it'd be cool to have a number retired. But then, hell, after everybody award, after.

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I don't had it all night, it is.

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I don't think about it anymore. I got one retired. I got number two retired in Savannah state.

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I'm good. There we go.

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Sure you want 85 retired in I don't know, ocho, to be honest with you. Ocho, I don't know. Is it known for Isaac Curtis or.

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Is it known for ocho?

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The Danbury trashers wanted to win at any cost.

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He wanted to break every bone in his body, literally.

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Throwing him like a rag doll, going.

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Bananas here at the Danbury ice arena. They can't restrain him right now.

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Podcasts, you and I are going to have a problem. Do you understand what I'm saying to you?

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Welcome to the jungle. Isaac Curtis is the original 85.

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I remember Isaac.

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Isaac Curtis is the original 85. They changed multiple rules because of Isaac Curtis being the offensive weapon that he was back then.

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So I've always showed tremendous respect to.

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Him and what he did with the Bengals.

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But most of the time, when people.

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See that number 85, it is synonymous.

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Synonymous with Ocho.

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When you see the number 85 in general, it doesn't even have to be bangle related.

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It's still synonymous with.

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I mean, with all due respect, it's cool.

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But you know what, Ocho? I mean, think about it. From Liberty City, and you got your name and number from the ring of fame. So everybody come up in that thing, they're like, they got Chad Johnson. They got Ocho Cinco Johnson.

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They got Johnson. I think they should put a hyphen and put Ocho Cinco next to. That's a. That's a crazy feeling, man. Yeah. And it didn't hit me until after the know, during the ceremony. It was cool. My family was there. Tio was know. My kids, french fry, they all there, and I looked up, they let the little drape down, and I looked at.

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My name, and it was like, you know what? Boom.

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That's cool.

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Boom.

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I shook hands, shook Boomer hand. I hugged big Willie and Hug Anthony.

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Munoz, Ken Anderson, and then that's it.

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And then I got home to the.

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Hotel in the bed with rail, and boom. It hit me, though.

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That's crazy. I'm from Liberty City, man. Born in Jackson Memorial Hospital, grew up in the 40s during the craziest era of all time.

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And my name is in the stadium when the ods were stacked against me, and I happened to make it out.

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Like, that's unbelievable when you think about.

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It, to come from where I've come.

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From, and now to walk into a stadium and your name and your legacy is cemented, like, they can't take that away.

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That ain't going nowhere. No, that's absolutely not. That's dope, man. That's dope.

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Christopher Howard asks with Brandon Staley and Sean McDermott. Dermott on notice which team has the better coaching opportunities and upside. Bills or Chargers?

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Oh, that's a good one.

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Both of them.

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Shit.

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From what they got from an offensive standpoint, I like both of them. I like both of them. And that goddamn roster over there, the defensive roster over there in San Diego, I'd rather go there. Oh, my.

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Going to.

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I'm going to LA for the weather.

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For the mean, because both of the quarterbacks, I mean, you got two big, strong armed quarterbacks that are barely do. I mean, they don't miss games.

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You got Diggs, Stefan Diggs. You got Gabe Davis.

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You got two mean, you got two tight ends. Nice offensive line.

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Yeah.

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You go to the Chargers, you got eckler, you got Keenan Allen, you got Mike Williams, although he's.

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Quinn Nelson.

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Is it Quentin Nelson or Quinn Johnson? Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson.

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Quinn Johnson. Quentin Nelson is the guard for the.

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Yeah, look.

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The taxes in California gonna eat you up.

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Oh, yes, they.

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The weather is really nice, but I.

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Mean, think about getting. I'm getting nine games a year because I play indoors and the Raiders are indoors, right? So I'm getting nine games a year in ideal climate now in a beautiful stadium at that. But here's the thing, here's the one drawback. Patrick Mahomes going to be in this division for another ten years.

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If you go to the AFC east.

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You got Zach Wilson, you got Mac.

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Jones, and you got tua.

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Do you want to deal with one of those guys or do you want ten years of Pat Mahomes? Patrick Mahomes. You have to weigh your options.

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I ain't running from that smoke. I want to battle Pat Mahomes.

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You want to battle my homeboy?

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Yeah, I want to battle Pat. I like that.

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I want to compete.

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Hey, I got a new watch today, too. I forgot to show you what you got.

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Let me see what you got. What is that, from target now?

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It was $10. I posted it on my story earlier today. It looked like a cartier.

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Don't it look like a Carter?

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It looked like a Carter. They left the aisle.

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They just said a carter.

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They ain't say Carter.

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That's a Carter.

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No, and I ain't talking about Sean Carter either.

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No, don't play now. You know, this thing looks 50. It looked real classy, man.

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It looked real classy. See, if I ain't say none.

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Somebody asked me today, they were like.

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Hey, boy, what you got on your wrist boy. I see.

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I was like, man, he ain't no better. He ain't no difference to the naked eye.

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They'd never know. But it cost me $10. I look good, though.

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Well, you see, good thing I ain't got no naked eyes. I dress my eyes up. I know that was some bullshit. Sean Pierce is saying, okanoco, where do you rank Larry Fitzgerald stand among receivers all time? I don't think he gets mentioned enough.

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I like Fitz. I like Fitz. Fitz is one of those, you know what? I'm going to put my hard hat.

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On and I'm going to go to work.

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It ain't going to be pretty. If you throw it, I'm going to catch it. I'm going to get the job done every time that blue collar, do it the right way. Perfect example of model citizen, model football player. If there was somebody you want to be like, if you want to bring an athlete home, this is the one.

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You want to bring home.

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Everything about him, he the real deal. Top five, I think.

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Even statistically, I love 50, man. Yeah. I definitely think where he ranks. For me, I think Jerry is the greatest. Right.

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And some people argue, say, well, it's.

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Randy, but I'm going to go, Jerry.

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I mean, the man got 197 receiving touchdowns, ocho. Yeah, the man got 44. He got 44 more receiving touchdowns than anybody in the history of the game. The man got 22,000 receiving yards.

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Yeah.

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In an era when they didn't throw the ball like they throw it 60, 70% of the time now. And he was doing things. I mean, the dude had 22 touchdowns in twelve games. So for me, jerry is it. I like to at two, I got randy at three.

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Right? That's me.

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Because I love Tio on the field and his ability, because I know I was going to get everything he got every single play, every single.

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Time.

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I always talk about, for me, what.

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Jerry was able to do, man, it's.

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Just.

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People take for granted, man. Like I say, ocho, see, people think now. I think the thing is, people think now that football and basketball and baseball didn't start until the Internet came to be. And they just like, oh, man, he wasn't, bro. You all better go back and look at what Jerry did.

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Yeah.

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I think it's a ten time.

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First team all pro for a wide.

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Receiver, and they're only two slots.

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Yeah, see, back when we were cup.

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They didn't have no flex. It wasn't no flex, nothing. It was two wide receivers and one.

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Tight end and two running back. You got to go you got to work. It's time to go to.

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I never. I never had the opportunity to see Jerry play in person. Obviously. I've seen the footage. I've seen the film. I've watched the one on ones.

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But being able to see moss and.

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Tio in person for years.

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Yeah.

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And I try to tell people. I try to explain it to them. Listen, watching what Randy did on thanksgiving with that three for 163 and three touchdowns. What t o did in Dallas or what t o did in Philly, or what t o did when he was the 49 ers, unless you were able to see it in person, watching it on film, watching it on YouTube, it will do you no justice. Unless you saw it with the naked eye.

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Unfucking believable. The receivers today are phenomenal. The receivers Today are great, but they are nothing. And I mean that.

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You know what?

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Watching them, too.

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The guys are scaled now, but the physicality has been legislated out of the ballgame.

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Yeah. So you can't see a lot of.

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Back then it was all about intimidation.

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Yeah.

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It was all about intimidation and all that talking and all that celebrating.

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Okay, you want to celebrate? Yeah. Okay. They don't get you. They going to get you.

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They would take cheap shots at you. They would light your ass up.

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Yeah, keep talking.

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Keep talking. Yeah, I'm going to keep talking.

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Me. I ain't.

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Can't. Look here. You all were going to hit me anyway. You all try to make seem like the only reason y'all hit me, because I'm talking. No, y'all was gonna get me anyway.

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Because I'm on the other team.

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So I'm gonna keep talking.

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But guess what? I'm gonna get your ass back, too. I'm gonna get you back. Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking about? What? Calvin motherfucking Johnson. Yeah, man. Unfair.

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It's like God was messing around up there with the football gods and said.

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Boom, here you go. Right, Calvin.

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I think of Calvin Johnson and his makeup. It's like what God did when he created Messi, obviously completely different know and completely different sports.

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He would just fuck around and say, you know what? Here y'all go.

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And, man, unfucking believable talents to watch in person, man.

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They are. And I gotta, like I said, I mean, to see the greats, to see Reggie and Bruce and the DTs and the LTs and the times and those guys in their prime.

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Now you get an appreciation to watch.

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Guys just, like, move up and down the line. I mean, they put Reggie at the three technique, the five technique, the seven, the nine.

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And dominated, all of them.

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Dominated.

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Yeah, dominated to see Bruce play the five and just like, I mean, they changed.

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Well, the unavailated to the quarterback because Bruce knocked Boomer Sasson out of the game. He jumped the snap count and they didn't blow it dead.

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He knocked him. Yeah.

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Oh, they would literally knock you out of the. Oh, they would knock you out, ocho. They would knock you out the. No, no, seriously, ocho, they would knock you out, your quarterback. They would knock the quarterback, your quarterback out the game.

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That's crazy.

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It is what it is, Ocho and the fun king.

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Before you ask the question, Tyreek Hill is in that same conversation, especially the boys, too.

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And he's still playing like he liked that.

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That's how special he is.

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Oh, yeah. And with his speed.

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Tyreek is how. Tyreek is what, 29 maybe he's not that old.

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Not yet, I don't think. Maybe.

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Because I think Mahome, 29. Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah, but that's still not 30. But see, the thing is, because of that speed, he's still going to be able to play put up numbers for another three to five years. I'm talking about the numbers that he's putting up now. Now, I'm not saying he's going to get. I believe he's going to get 2000 this year. Yeah, I'm hoping because I want to see it. I like seeing, I played a block for a guy that got 2000 rush yards.

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It's something to see.

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You see a guy get 2000 rush yards to see something that hasn't been done and to see Tyreek, to be the first to do it, because I.

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Think, because it takes a special guy.

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Because you got to be there every week. You can't miss a game, ocho, you.

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Can'T miss a game.

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And we're going to get one or two big ones, too. You're going to get out of these, what, six or seven left? You're going to get one or two big ones and it's going to put him right over.

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I think he got six games left. He needs a game where he goes over two.

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Yeah, that'll put him over 1500.

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So now I got five games, ocho, and now you get a 125 or 150. You sit pretty.

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It's a rap because, you know, the.

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Thing is that you want to have it.

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You want to be able to catch.

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A smoke route and walk off the.

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Field like I got it.

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Because they don't want you to break that record against demo Cho. So they're going to put it, Jalen Waddle might break the record. He might have the most receiving yards in the game.

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Right.

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Because they're going to blow the coverage to make sure that Irik don't get it.

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Yeah.

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Because remember when to got the record. Tom Fears had the record of 19 catches, I think 18 or 18 catches.

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In a game, right? Well, it was Jerry Rice's day.

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They're like, we're not going to let Jerry go crazy on us. And I've a damn t. Don't go for 20, for 255. So that's what happens o Joe. They're like, oh, no, you're not going to go crazy. You're not going to celebrate on us. Jalen Water gets. Get ten catches for 300 yards.

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Yeah, I hate them games like that. Come hella high water and they just.

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Say, not today, you not go get it.

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And you got to be patient. You got to be patient. You get maybe one or two, you'll get maybe one or two balls and hope you could do something with it.

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But you ain't getting nothing after that. No.

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John King asked Shannon, if you and Sterling switch teams, would you still be the same player you both were? Who do you think would have had the better mean? Hold on, so you mean to tell me he's going to come into the league and he's going to have John.

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Away from the jump?

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Do you realize who threw the ball to my brother before Bret Favre got mean? Anthony Dilwig, Mike Tomzack, he had Don Mikowski.

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Come on, Don Mikowski.

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Boy, he was a real deal.

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You gonna give my brother John Elway? So in 88, 80, 90, 91, he has John Elway. Do you know what his numbers would look like? Yeah, I mean, I'd have had Bret, I mean, I'd have far got to Green Bay in 92.

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Yeah, I mean, probably my career is.

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Similar, but his numbers would have been astronomical. So, no, he'd had a much better career than what he had. And he had a great career, even though it was short. Adrian Adele asked, what's more difficult, hitting a free throw in an MBA championship or kicking a field goal for the Super bowl? Ps for Ocho, the Saxons are the.

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Best junk anew in the Bahamas.

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Valley boys don't do that. No, he said Saxons Valley boys.

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He said Saxons. I mean, he sound like he from.

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It probably is somebody in the Bahamas. Talk about the Saxons Valley in your belly.

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What's more difficult, ocho? Hitting a free throw in an NBA Championship game or kicking a field goal for the Super Bowl?

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I think both are equally as stressful? No, they're not.

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Because guess what? Ain't nobody trying to block your free throw. You ain't got no win conditions, but.

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It'S still you having to hit that free throw. You having to make that kick in front of 80,000 people. You got your teammates, all 52 of them, relying on you to make a kick to win a game. You are responsible for that.

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Right? Free throw.

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Arena cheering, loud screaming fans, people heckling, making noise. You got to lock in and hit.

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A free throw championship.

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You got to make both of them.

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To win a game. Game seven, series, you make both of them, you win by one. Shit, man.

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I think kicking a field goal, man.

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It all depends on who shooting the free throws. You got Ben Wallace, you got Chris Dudley. I mean, you got Shaq, who's shooting the free throws to win the championship, and then who's kicking the field goal for the Super bowl. Do I got Tuck from Baltimore? Do I got Bill of Thierry?

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That's a great question for Steph Curry and a Justin Tucker. What do you think is more difficult.

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To make two shots to win a.

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Series in game seven or to kick a game?

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How far is the field goal?

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You got to take that into consideration as well. That's a good one.

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The guy that just kicked a 59 yard in a driving rainstorm.

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Yeah.

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Give me the free throw, Ocho.

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That was clutch.

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Give me the clutch. Or vinity area. Kicking the ball. Kicking a 45 yard field off in a driving snowstorm.

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Yeah, that was a good one, too.

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Come on. You right.

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But I think the thing is, ocho.

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Is that the question is pressure is.

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What you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing, because if you haven't been in those situations before.

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I mean, how many times have Steph.

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Curry gone to the free throw line.

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With a game on the line?

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Justin Chucker was a rookie and kicked.

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The game winning field goal in Denver.

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To send the Ravens to the AFC championship game in New England. So he's been in those moments. Steph Curry has had to make a free throw, possibly to get a team into overtime or to win a game. Right now, you take someone that has.

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Never been in those situations, now, the.

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Knees knocking like you think somebody knocking on the door.

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Yeah, it's different. It's different.

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But that's a great question. Now that you're asking the players that have been in those situations or clutch situations or moments like that where the Super bowl is on the line or a championship is on the line, do.

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You think they nervous? Yeah. You think so?

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You understand the moment? You understand the moment?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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You understand the moment? Yeah. Because that's the Super bowl. And as much as you try to make the Super bowl just another game, everything's going to be the same. 15 minutes, quarters.

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It's not.

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Jonathan Batista.

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Ocho, have you ever heard you and.

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ASAP Rocky look related?

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You all could be cousins, man.

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That is my cousin, and I've said that millions of times. Rocky has also said that on instagram many of times. I'm not sure why people are still.

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Confused that we resemble each lying. No, I'm not lying. You're a liar.

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I think Ojo computer went out for a second.

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I hope he didn't lose his charge. I think I'm still going, so I guess I keep asking some questions ish moves.

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One said, did you see ocho Vegas commercial? And can we rate his rap skill?

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Love y'all. That's what y'all call those skills? Y'all call that what he do with rapping?

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Look, I haven't seen the whole commercial.

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I saw a little snippet of it, but he got in character.

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So the one thing I know about Ocho, he going to fool you all. He going to make you all think he tupac. I mean, he going to be up there like, oh, yeah, bro, I hit that with that.

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Look, when it comes to entertaining, I.

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Don'T put nothing past Ocho, because he's the ultimate entertainer.

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He captures.

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He embodies the moment. And so would I be surprised that.

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He hit it out the park? No, I would be more surprised that.

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If he didn't, because knowing that, he loves the entertainment. He's a showman. He loves being in front of people. He loves being in front of the camera.

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So, yeah, I got no doubt in my mind that Ocho knocked it out of the park.

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I saw a little snippet of it, but I think it's going to be a Super bowl commercial, right? It's a Super bowl commercial.

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Right?

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So I'm waiting to see that during the Super bowl. Hey, let's be real with no hate for the Cowboys. If Romo had a defense the Cowboys had the last two years, he's winning a Super bowl. Be real, uncle. No, Cho.

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Dad's caught it.

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We all know it.

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No, first of all, the mere fact.

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That you signed Jonathan.

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Excuse me, not Jonathan.

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Nathan, high voltage 52. The mere fact that you signed off said objective cowboy fan lets me know.

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You full of cocka Daz. Didn't catch it in order for you.

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To catch the football at the time. A catch was if a receiver goes to the ground, he must maintain possession throughout the entirety of the process. So coming in contact with the ground, basically you need to stand up and.

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Hand the ball to the official. Probably make the rules, bro.

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Calvin, John, they set that president a year earlier, or know two years earlier with the Calvin Johnson situation when he caught the ball and tried to get up with the ball with one hand.

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And they said, nope, not a catch.

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So, no, Daz didn't catch it and Romo was too mistake prone. In order for you guys to win a Super bowl, you can't be mistake prone and win the Super bowl because you're going to end up putting your defense at a disadvantage. So I disagree that had Romo had a real defense. He had a defense. You all had ten Pro bowl players one year.

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Damn.

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How many Pro bowl players?

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There's only 22 spots. You all had ten of them. No.

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Tony Fob says you're talking about both sides of your mouth. The back dac in the offense, they put up 41 points, bro. How many teams score? 56 is not the point, Troy. It's not the point. How many games have you lost this year because of the red zone inaccuracy?

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So what about Philly?

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Would you have run the game in Philly if you didn't go?

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If they went three for three, what did you go see?

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I can't win. I give you credit. I say this is a good team because when your defense didn't have it, you score 41 and you're outscore 41 35. Okay, your defense. You know what you say you're a good defense. Can you do what you need to.

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Do when you have to? Three stops on fourth down. Well, damn. What you want me to do? I'll be telling what you want me to do, Troy. What you want me to do?

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I give him credit. You don't like the way I gave him credit? The fact of the matter is, you can be pleased with something, but not satisfied. That's your problem. And I told you that's what's going to get you in trouble, because you accept things in a win you never would in a loss. Had they lost the game, would you.

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Have been okay with that? You wouldn't have.

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And then you're going to talk about and penalties again. Look at you. You okay with the penalties? No, but the penalties don't matter. We won the game.

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Okay. I'll check back with you in a couple of weeks.

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Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says today is my birthday. May I please get a birthday shout out or a few coins to buy me some Laportier?

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Dr. Frankie, happy birthday.

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Chad just commented, said his computer caught on fire. See, that would you get for being cheap?

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See, my computer will never catch on fire. Get on your cell phone.

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Happy birthday Dr. Frank L. Bellamy appreciate the support man. Uncultured j uncanocho that'll be the first live event that I can't we're broadcast from, not including Ocho's wedding as I believe that's already been asked. Probably we're probably going to have an event at the Super bowl this year. We're definitely trying to get that worked out. Ocho and I'll be at the same.

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Location, had a live audience.

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I think that would be really cool.

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And I can't wait for that to happen it again.

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