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That Stitcher premium dot com promo code office. I'm Jenna Fischer. I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends and now we're doing the ultimate office rewash podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you where the office ladies. Hi, folks. Hello, everybody. I'm sorry, I feel like I just shouted, I won't do that again.


If you shouted, then what did I do? I don't know. I don't know. I'll pull back. We're a little amped up today, guys. We're excited about this episode. We're amped up. We're excited about this episode. Also, seeing might be a chef's face. And Sam and Cody, like the four of us, is kind of just like one of the highlights of my week every week. It's the one of the highlights of my week.


Yeah, it's true. Let's talk about the office. This week's episode is Branch Closing. It is Season three, Episode seven, written by Mike Shaw and directed by Tucker Gates. Yes, Tucker Gates directed four episodes, one of which people like absolutely flip out over is the threat level midnight. We'll get there. Yes.


Oh, yes. All right. Here's a summary for this episode jumping right in. Jan tells Michael that the Dunder Mifflin Scranton branch is shutting down.


Michael, of course, shares this news with the rest of the office. Even though Jan told him not to.


I mean, what are you going to tell Michael something and expect him not to just blurt it out? He's like emotion driven. The guy cannot hold anything in.


No, he can. He can hold nothing, basically. Yeah. So everyone is wondering what their new life will be like. They're talking about it. They're thinking about it. Meanwhile, Michael and Dwight drive to David Wallace's house in hopes of ambushing him and saving the branch. They're going to. They're going to save us guys, even if they have to be aggressive.


I think what they're going to show up at this guy's house. What are they thinking? Yeah. God. He didn't come home. Well, we eventually learned that Josh from Stamford leveraged his position to get a new job at Staples. And the Stamford branch will now be closing. The Scranton branch will absorb some of their employees. Which means, guys, Jim is coming back.


Jim is coming back. It's a big episode.


That's a lot of information we find out in this episode. So much information and it sets up the rest of the season. Really? It really does. Yeah, we're going to. And this is we're going to get our new characters now. Ed Helms. Rasheeda Jones. Angela, we're finally next week going to be able to interact with those Stamford people. Yeah. And they really they really get under people skin. So fun. All right. But we're getting ahead.


We're getting ahead of ourselves, Jenna. Now, you and I were being chatty on the phone yesterday.


Jenna, you were a little, I don't know, brag to me on the phone yesterday. You said you had fantastic fast facts. You wouldn't tell me. So what do you got? What do you got? You were a low braggy.


I was a little braggy because I am actually really proud of these fast facts. The first one is a little soft. I'm going to just preface it now that we've built it up. But fast. Fact number one is that this episode of Branch closing it now streams as a supersized episode. It's longer than a regular episode. It runs about 30 minutes. But when it first aired, it was a regular episode. This ran on NBC as a shorter episode.


But immediately following the airing on television. NBC released what they called a producer's cut where they put back some deleted scenes. And that is the version that now streams today. This producer's cut. That's a very solid first fastback total. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's really good. I forgot that. I forgot that. And when I watched it, I noticed it was longer. And I was like, we always had a big announcement about our supersized episodes, remember?


It was. Oh, yeah, usually at the end of the season.


And I was like, how did this one get in there? That's how.


OK, first of all, I think that this really speaks to how much stuff we used to cut from episodes, because when you watch this episode, it feels awesome. You're like, oh yes. And it kind of shows all the things that we used to have to cut out. And as we go along, I'll point out some of the things that only got to stay in because of this added time. I'll mention the things that were cut for the network airing.


But I think this also speaks to a time historically when Web sites and the idea of Web traffic or exclusive Web content, it was just blowing up. This is the very first kind of exclusive Web content of the office that NBC put out this producer's cut. And it was because NBC wanted to drive traffic to their Web site. Yes. Which is also why we did those webisodes. We started doing more and more content for NBC dot com. I started doing a thing called Adventures with Angela.


With her husband. Yeah. Go around the set and make these videos and they put it on NBC dot because they were really starting to see, hey, this Internet thing is. Privately, kind of. Be the way to go. And this was still before social media. This was still before Instagram. Twitter was around, but it was very much just starting. And it wasn't what it is today. But, yeah, this now you almost expected.


I feel like now you watch a television program and you're like, where's my extra content? We're at my behind the scenes. Where's my extended cuts? But this was like just the very beginning and end branch closing was part of that. I find that fascinating, Jonah. And also, yeah, you're right. This is a time stamp. Right. If we're tracking old tech, our show started before there were streaming. Oh, Angela, fast.


Fact number two is a major old tech tracking. You're going to love this. What? All right. On January 9th, 2007, Apple introduced the first iPhone. I don't know if you remember this, but it was unveiled during a presentation by Steve Jobs. We got some mail from Aaron McDonald with what might be my favorite tip off ever. He said that the cold open from this episode was the first ever piece of video played on the iPhone, and it was done during that presentation by Steve Jobs.


Wow. We were part of this global moment, like without knowing it. It blew my mind. Here is something even more crazy. I watched the whole presentation. Also during the presentation, Steve Jobs, when he's showing you how the music stuff works, he plays the Green Day song Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Angela, in season six of the office, Dwight and Andy sing Boulevard of Broken Dreams in the Secret Santa episode.


What are you trying to tell me, John? What is happening?


Is this an episode of Lost? Is this an episode of Lost Group? Mind Group. Minds. Time Portal. What's happening? I don't know.


Don't you think it's crazy that both a video of the office and that Green Day song were both part of this presentation and then later that same Green Day song shows up on the office? It's so many coincidences. What's happening? I think it's a collective of amazing creative minds.


It's a kind of great stuff. You've got an iPhone, you've got the office, you've got Green Day. It's group mind. I don't know. OK. All right. What's next, Jonah? Fast. Fact number three. There are a ton of talking heads in this episode. Did you notice?


Well, yeah, because everyone's reacting. I did notice that everyone's talking about, oh, what am I going to do now that the branch is closing? And then when we find out the branch is not closing. Everybody talks about, oh, here's my reaction to that news. Do you remember when we talked about how our cinematographer, Randall Einhorn? Chose the placement of a talking head based on whether or not people had a future outside of Dunder Mifflin.


Yes. To refresh everyone's memories.


We learned that most characters have the office of Dunder Mifflin behind them, behind them in that window as they're giving their talking heads. And the reason behind this was that that meant people were stuck. They didn't really have a future. They were kind of stuck in the world of Dunder Mifflin. Right. However, very often Jim would have a talking head all the time and his talking heads had a window to the world behind him. Yes. The point of that was because he had a future outside of this company.


Yes. He was going places. Yes. Angela, in this episode, after the employees get the news that Dunder Mifflin Scranton is closing, every single one of the talking heads have a window to the outside world behind them. No, they don't. Oh, yes, they did lose weight. When they find out that the branch isn't closing, all of the talking heads switch back to having the bullpen behind them.


I did not catch that. You have. I watch it. I have to go back and watch it. Angela, you have a talking head where you're talking about Dunder Mifflin closing and outside world behind you. Same with Pam. Same with Ryan. Same with Phyllis. Same with Stanley. And then when we find out that we're still stuck at Dunder Mifflin, Dunder Mifflin is behind us.


That is so wild because I really don't think I ever had talking heads on that wall ever. I mean, I'm I'm trying to think back. I think maybe one time when I was sitting next to you when we were both pregnant. Right. Like, wow, Jenna, that is a fantastic fast fact. It's subtle, but it's layered and it's there. Everybody watch branch closing again just for the talking head. That's it. That's what I got.


I'm giving you some claps. And I was really proud of that one because I.


I tracked that one myself. So I'm giving myself a real pat on the back. I'm raising my last to myself. I don't know if you can see I'm raising my coffee mug to myself. I'm raising mine. Back to you. You do as you raise your coffee mug. I notice you have a tattoo on your wrist that you normally don't have. I was fascinated and fixated on it. Did your kids give you a sticky tattoo?


You know, Angela, in this pandemic, we have brought back some real oldies but goodies at our house. And one of them has been the temporary tattoos. Yeah. This is something my kids were interested in when they were like two or three years old and they're now eight and six. And we found this drawer of temporary tattoos and were tattooed up. You know what we found.


What is exciting as your tattoos. We found in the shed a bean of un opened Plato and it was still good. Our kids are 12, 12 and 10. They're not you know, that's when you sort of phase out a Plato. Yeah. Brought it back. There's a chicken that poops Plato. It's made a comeback lady. Those fast facts were so good. I mean, where do we go from there? We should probably take a break.


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All right, we're back, guys. We're going to start breaking down this episode of Branch Closing. We're gonna start with that cold open that we told you ran during the unveiling of the iPhone. Yeah. So this is a classic Jim prank. He has found a way to prank Dwight even from the Stamford branch. He is sending a fax very early in the morning. Karen, enter. She's look curious, like, what are you doing? And he's like, it's too hard to explain.


And we see a talking head where Jim says that he stole some of Dwight's stationery before he left and he occasionally since Dwight, a fax from Dwight's future self. It's so good. It's so perfect. It's so perfect. And that morning he said, don't drink the coffee might be poisoned. Write something to that effect. So Dwight's like, oh, my God. And he sees Stanley about to take a sip of coffee. Any, you know, practically tackles him to the ground.


He's like, you'll thank me later. So White thinks he is getting faxes from his future self. This is classic good. Not so good. The first thing I thought after I watched this cold open was did Mike Shaw write this episode? He did, because that's Mike's shirt. This is one hundred percent from the brain of Mike Shaw. He did such a good job of writing these Jim Dwight pranks. Oh, he's so smart. Jonah is so smart.


I knows Marty. Yeah. All right.


So then we move into the episode and Michael is at his desk. Jan enters. Oh, Michael again, like three halos. Just call me Levinsohn alone in eleven suns. And, you know, Gene has news to deliver.


But first, she has to sit through this barrage of awkward hellos from Michael and she finally tells him. Dunder Mifflin Scranton is closing. You are a severance package person. Yeah. You're not going to. Mike starts crying, bitch.


And then he starts, like, moaning like how Mark Jenna, could you imagine, like, in this moment? No. And of course, it's so loud. Everyone from outside the office can see and hear that something is going down in his office. Everyone's very curious.


Yes. Because he's like, oh, like he's moaning.


Kevin comes over to Pam's desk, wants to know what's going on. We had a fan question. OK. I'm not at this fan question. Go. And then I have a card that just says, what is it? What Hadlee Horton is wondering, why is Pam's hair different? What's up with the low pony? Oh, that's a separate card called Low Pony Question Mark. OK, where should we start? Should we start with white or low pony?


Let's start with what? And then go into low pony. Great. Pam calls Kevin Kev. And then Buddy. And they fist bump. What is happening?


Well, opening the fist bump was a reluctant fist bump, though, Anj. I know, but Carrie like condescending.


She's being totally condescending. She's trying to put him off. She's like, Kev, buddy. Fist bump. Leave my desk. I mean, she's trying to get through it. That's my interpretation. My interpretation was that he's like a little kid. Yeah. Yeah. So she's like. So she catches power biting him. Yeah, sure. But you just don't often hear Pam sort of become that casual with Kevin. Ah. You know, I feel like she saves that part of herself for Jim and everyone else.


She's sort of just aloof to a little bit. So it just kind of was startling to me that in your low ponytail, I mean, what the heck? Here's the deal with the low pony. I think it was a swing and a miss, and I wasn't crazy about it when I saw it. We were trying to change things up. You might notice as well, Pam has got a little bit of like up pinkie or sparkly or eyeshadow on in this episode as well and a little lip gloss.


There's so much pink.


She is pink eye shadow, pink lipstick, pink sweater. But then the low pony with the clip, Ngonyama in a ponytail holder can't wait. So Southern. It's very hard for me, Holder. Anyway, it's a clip holding your hair. Not even a ponytail holder. Yeah. Well, that clip is humongous. Here's the thing. The conversation in hair and makeup was that Pam would be experimenting a little bit because she's going to her art classes.


She's living on her own. We needed to see some physical representation of the fact that she's attempting, even in small ways, to break out of her shell right now to break out of her routines.


So there you go. We offer the low pony. I'm going to say I think you never see it again because. It wasn't great. We'll say it, so it was great. It's a clip. Low pony. Yeah. Low pony. Now, I kind of wish they'd really gone for it next week. You would've had a banana clip. Remember those? God gave you like a Mohawk.


Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, it was a moment in time. It was something we tried. Unfortunately, it's there for us all to see again and again.


Kate, don't. Don't say unfortunately to me. Do you see how many low ponies my character has? Like all the girls in here, I don't. I have problem with a low pony. I don't have a problem with a low pony in general. I'm just saying this particular low pony was because of the giant clip. It was odd. We're back in Michael's office in China. I don't know if you've ever had to fire someone. I have.


Ah, if you've ever been fired, but I couldn't imagine getting the news. Michael got an and like, well, you know, they believe that Josh Porter is going to have a big role in the future of the company. And Michael goes, what kind of role. King of the stupid universe.


Yeah. Could you imagine like firing someone basically who's who's having this kind of a spiral?


I mean, could you imagine firing someone or being fired and then having their wind up mechanical t? Was it in the script? It was an accident. And by the way, this points to what amazing actor Steven Miller are because they just stayed in the moment and reacted to it as if that was meant to happen. It was not meant to happen again. And it couldn't be more real yet that you're firing this guy who's so incompetent on so many levels and his Clarkie teeth go off.


Yes. Amazing. All right, I'm going to move us along. Michael has a talking head where he says, let's see, Josh, find another Stanley, Phyllis or Kevin. Show me that farm. Show me that farm. And during that talking head, we kind of we see Creed eating his mung beans at his desk. We see Phyllis knitting. And we had a fan question from Stephanie Miller in this episode. When we see Phyllis knitting.


Can she knit in real life? Did she knit that whole scarf? Her character's working on you guys. She is 100 percent fake knitting. Phyllis cannot knit. Didn't she do so good?


I had a basket full of knitting stuff. They'd made it part of her character. It sat next to her desk all nine seasons and it just sat there. And sometimes if she had to do background stuff. But this was a great panning shot because, you know, Michael says there is no Stanley tree and he's napping. And then they said, do you think the world is crawling with Phyllis's and she's knitting. So it was this great visual, but no.


Phyllis can't knit. Yeah, no, no. That's one of my favorite talking heads, though. I love that one.


I do, too. I do, too. So then Michael is walking around the office. Dwight can tell something's wrong, but Michael isn't spilling.


And this is my other favorite talking head from this episode, which is Dwight's talking head, where he says, when you're close to someone, you can read them like a book. And he says, Michael's book is titled Something Weird is Going On. Colin, what did Jan say? The Michael Scott Story by Michael Scott with Dwight Schrute. All right. That last part is not in the script, and I could kind of tell that there was an improv there because whenever rain improves at the end of a talking head or the end of a scene, I feel like you can see him smile just a little bit in the corners of his mouth and his eyes.


So I reached out to make sure and he told me that he and rain expanded on the book title on the day on set. They kept throwing out ideas. The original was just supposed to be something weird is going on. Colin, what did Jan say? And Mike threw out the Michael Scott story and then Rain added with Dwight Schrute. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I feel like we all have Tels and Rain when he has an improv that I think he's really happy with, has a little bit of a smirk.


He is kind of proud of the moment he amuses himself in the moment while saying it.


Now, things are really getting heightened over at the Stamford branch because Karen breaks the news that the Scranton branch is closing to Jim and oh my God, Jim's face, he's like, what you notice he doesn't reach out to Pam, Pam and Jim never call one another or text one another in this whole day. It's kind of weird because in Diwali we see that Pam was texting Jim. And they had that phone call at the end of grief counseling. But what's going on?


Why no communication? It makes perfect sense to me. You know, they they're both sort of struggling with where do we go from here? And I'm sure Pam's first instinct is to reach out to him. But she doesn't feel like she has that kind of access to him anymore. She rejected him. So, no, it makes perfect sense to me that they don't communicate what I thought was weirder and we're gonna get to it. Is that Roy finds out from accounting.


So Pam didn't even tell Roy. That's right. So now Michael approaches Pam at front reception. He's acting really strange. She clearly knows something is up because he was moaning in his office and Jan visited. So Pam's like, what's going on? Michael? Yeah, I have a fan catch from this moment. OK. At six minutes, 21, one seconds. Celeste Demus says if you freeze and look closely on that big board, that's hanging by accounting.


On Tuesday the 5th, it says one of many Emmys, Steve was robbed.


Oh, that's a great fan, Cadge. I promise I didn't write it.


We shot this episode about two weeks after the Emmys, and I guess someone had written up on the board a little. Congratulations to us. And we also needed to say that Steve was robbed because he did not win that year for Michael Scott. He never won for Michael Scott, which is ridiculous. Yeah, well, I have a Janah catch because since Celeste turned me on to looking at this whiteboard, I found something else on the whiteboard on the top line, written under Thursday, written in multiple colors.


It says, In case you haven't noticed, there is a lot of colorful hooey on this board.


Anyway, guys, for the future, I think it could be very fun to freeze on this whiteboard because they did change what they wrote all the time. Well, I love that. I love the little subtle shade towards the television academy. Talk about Steve. Not kidding. The Emmy. Totally. Coming up next, Michael has a talking head and then he does something immediately after. And it's it's one of these classic Michael moments that I live for.


It always makes me laugh so hard. Michael says that all he can do is put on a brave face and be our leader. And then he says to the whole bullpen, it's over.


We are screwed. Yeah. Really, buddy.


That's the brave face you're putting on for us. OK. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, he really he offers no comfort. He he sort of begins to ugly cry. Angela is asking about the employees, asking about their jobs. I have two catches here. I have something I need to say, Angela. OK. Go at seven minutes. 18 seconds. Your sweater. It's a sweater vest. OK, so I actually have some photos of this sweater from a wardrobe fitting that I saved.


So I have a a button down shirt. And then over it I have a sweater vest. But it's like a tank. It's like a teeny tiny, very odd sweater vest. Yes. Like another one of those failed Project Runway contests. Oh, one hundred percent. And then our wardrobe designer, Kari Bennett, took the buttons off the sweater vest and replaced them with those cat faces. It's really a work of art. It really is. All right.


Well, I have a catch. At seven minutes. Twenty seven seconds. This is one of the most famous Michael Scott Meems. It's Steve making that face like he's about to cry. Ah, maybe he smells dog poop. You know, the face. And he says this is the worst. And people use it a ton to respond to other people. Like when they get some news that they're like, no way. All of a sudden I see in my feed Steve Space.


OK, on. Office Ladies Pod, will you please post the pictures of your cat buttons and of this meme. Yes, of course. Of course. OK.


Good. Because I want everyone to have these visuals. OK.


I think it's important. I have a script question. Because I know you have this. The scripts. So. Toby admits that he knows that this was gonna happen. Michael calls him a traitor, says he wants to see him in his office. They start to walk in and Michael says, oh, my God, you walk so slowly. I feel like that was Steve improvising.


I had that same feeling and I did look at the script. None of that part of him calling Toby into his office was scripted. So him that whole bit of him calling Toby in his office say he's walking slowly. And then Dwight guarding the door and putting his hand up to the camera. None of that was in the script.


Amazing. Yeah. Mazing. And I love that everyone just went with it. They just yag up. Steve's doing his thing. We're going to let this play out and participate because I looked I was like, wait, is there a lost scene of Toby in Michael's office? Is there a conversation that didn't make it? No, no. That was just Steve. On the day. Wow. And, you know, speaking of how rain gets the little smirk when he improvises at seven minutes, 52 seconds, when he won't let the camera crew in and he shuts the door, he has the smirk.


I noticed it, too, huh? Well, we had a fan question for Mary Porten and actually a lot of people wrote in with a similar question. She wanted to know when we got the script for this episode. Did any of us worry that the show was being canceled or did we know that this was just an idea for an episode? And she was asking in. A lot of people were asking because we've said before, sometimes plots are revealed to us at these table reads.


And they were shocking. And they wanted to know as we sat down and got the script as we were reading it. Were we thinking, wait a second. What script is closing? Are we all out of jobs? No, guys, we knew that this was a plot point. None of us were worried. We had all had our contracts renewed for all of season three. Yeah. And so we knew that we would be producing 24 episodes in season three.


And we also had been tipped off to the fact that eventually there would be a merger episode and that those people from Stamford would be coming to join us. So we didn't have any kind of surprise or anxiety when we got this script. No, we were just excited because it meant finally after this episode, we could all be in one room together. So we are excited. At least the Scranton branch. We were excited. I don't know, maybe danford was like we like our schedule, but we were excited to have everyone back.


All right. So now, Angela, we move into Orion talking head and he's holding up his business cards, right? Or are they his calling cards? Oh, boy. He's holding up his business slash calling card, huh? Eight minutes notice. Here it is, talking head exterior window behind them.


This is the beginning of the exterior window talking heads because next up, Angela has a talking head and Kelly has a talking head with the mascara on her face, all exterior windows. She's gonna track it. All right. So now we're going back to Stanford and Andy is leading everyone and a chance. Stamford, Connecticut.


Right. He's getting everyone jazzed up. So while everyone's chanting at eight minutes, 23 seconds, you will see someone who is beloved by our office cast and crew. Her name is Laurie Sox. She was our stand in her and her husband, Stephen. They were like a stand in duo team. And she's in the background, in the scene. And it just made me so happy to see her. I saw her, too. I saw her, too, and I loved it.


Well, maybe we should explain what a stand in is if we haven't before. So after you rehearse the scene with the actors, you bring in people to stand in for the actors while the crew sets the lights and the camera angles. And this is an opportunity for the cast to go and get their makeup fixed or change their outfit or any number of things. Rehearse their lines. And then when we're ready to start rolling, the actors come back in and stand in their positions or sit at their desks.


So Laurie would stand in for all the women and Steven, her husband would stand in for the men. But every once in a while, you'll see them pop up in the background of scenes. And that's what happened here. Yeah, they're wonderful.


And we all became very close. And anyway, I was very excited to see her there. I know they were the loveliest and they had two kids. Lori got pregnant twice over the course of the show. Everybody who worked on our show became part of the family. And they were part of our family. Yes, absolutely.


Well, back in Scranton, Meredith goes into Michael's office to let him know that she is still down to sleep together.


She's still down to get down. Yep. Because, you know, they made a pact years ago that they would sleep together on the last day of work. And Michael is like, I have no idea what you're talking about. OK. This storyline, which is going to keep playing out of Meredith, trying to figure out who she agreed to have sex with on her last day of work. This was an example of one of the storylines that got cut from the original NBC airing.


So we were able to keep this storyline in because we got the extra time with the producers. Cut. Oh, my gosh.


Wait and see. I love that. I feel like it fills out the picture. Yes, completely. Well, Jenna, your character has a pretty big talking head coming up. You know, it's interesting to see how the branch closing is affecting everyone. I mean, Stanley is elated, right? He's going to retire early. Oh, yeah. Stanley's elated. Ryan says this worked out great. And Pam is really happy. Oh, yeah.


And we express all of those emotions with an exterior window behind us.


Angela? Well, Pam says that she always thought that maybe she would make a big speech and slap someone and storm out. So dramatic. I know. Who would she slap? It would have been me. She would have slapped me. Well, she's eventually going to slap Michael. So maybe that's who she means. But it's definitely either you or Michael, right?


Yeah. Yeah, 100 percent. OK. So now, Angela, we're over in accounting and Angela and Kevin. Break the news to Roy. Yeah. Why. Why do Angela and Kevin break the news, huh. Why. I don't know. Said anything. I think this really. How disconnected, Roy in Panama. By the way. Well, he seems very concerned that Pam might be one of the Connecticut transfers. But Angela kind of misreads his concern and thinks that he's worrying about himself.


And she's like, oh, Roy, you'll be fine. You're so strong and capable. Yeah.


Don't worry, Roy. Yeah. Don't worry, Roy. Kevin finds this hilarious. Angela tells him to grow up and storms off.


Jenna, did you hear that? Do you know what that sound means? I do. And we get a lot of questions about different behind the scenes moments on the office. And we always do our best to give people the real deal. Just like our friends at State Farm.


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Did she? Patricia, this is a fantastic question. All right. Many of you out there have speculated about Angela and Roy Jenna. I've been asked this question a lot, and there's all of these threads online about it. So the answer, Patricia, is yes. It seems like Angela always had a thing for Roy. I love this question, Patricia, because this has given us an opportunity to track it. We're going to track this Angela Roy flirtation because it is real and it is happening.


All right. Early on, there were a few episodes that kind of hint at this Roy Angela flirtation. I believe it starts in the fire. Hmm. This is season two. Remember when the members of the office are playing the game, who would you do? And Michael asks Roy, who would you do? And Roy says, What's the name of that tight ass Christian chick? The blonde? Yeah, sort of referring to Angela. Right.


And I'm standing right there and I'm like. My name is Angela. And he's like, Hey, Angela. So definitely it starts there. And then in the secret, when Angela and Phyllis are in the kitchen and they're cleaning out the fridge, Phyllis asks Angela who she'd pick if she were in Pam's shoes, Jim or Roy. And Angela's like, oh, I don't want to participate in this. Right. But then she goes to this kind of weird look on her face and she goes, Roy, the weird look, it's like a confession.


It's like, well, Roy.


Yeah. But then this just keeps building. Right. And it's further fleshed out in the first ever the office webisodes. Jenna. Yeah. So the webisodes were called The Books Don't Balance. It featured the accounting department. And if you watch it, go to episode five titled Someone in the Warehouse. The accountants are wondering if maybe Roy took the missing money. Angela says absolutely not that he has too much character. And Kevin asked Angela if she has a crush on Roy.


And Angela gets very, very flustered. Oh, wow. She could Zollo she'd like she like sort of messes up her words and then she sort of storms off and you can find this on the DVD set. It's on season two, disc four as a bonus feature. But, yeah, so that happens in the webisodes. OK, well then in season two, Casino Night, there's a scene where Michael addresses the crowd in the casino and he says, old friends, new lovers.


And if you look in the background, Angela and Roy are sitting next to each other at the bar and you guys kind of exchange a look. I know Bill's one of the things that's been pointed out on the message boards. What's the look between Angela and Roy at Casino Night when Michael says new lovers?


And why are they sitting next to each other? Why are they. I don't know. And then, of course, in this episode, branch closing, we have the scene at ten minutes. Thirty three seconds where Angela, like we said, is trying to confront Roy, tells them he's strong and capable. Yes. And then also, if we skip forward to the cocktail's episode in Season three, you will briefly hear audio of Roy asking everybody at the bar if they want a drink.


And you can hear Angela say something like, Oh no, thank you, Roy. I'm and everybody thinks that maybe that's your character kind of coyly talking to Roy. Yeah.


It's kind of odd that it's left in. If you watch it, because I'm it's off camera and I'm like, oh, no, Roy, I'm OK. And it just kind of trails off. So it's like, what is that about? And then my personal favorite in the episode, The Negotiation. This is also season three. Roy is coming in to get his very last paycheck and Angela keeps having everyone in the office retell her about the moment Roy tried to attack Jim and Dwight intervened.


I mean, there's a scuffle and she just keeps wanting to hear about the scuffle. And it seems like she's just as turned on by Dwight's like being a hero as by Roy sort of being this aggressive dude.


Well, this is Angela, the character's fascination with a sort of alpha male. Display of. I don't know what you would call it, just testosterone. She loves a big display of testosterone.


Yes, don't forget, she mentions that she has had two men have duels over her.


Yes. She loves all of this. She loves all boy is 100 percent in her wheelhouse. OK. So we've tracked it. But, Angela, you went to Greg and to Paul from the writers to get their intentions behind this whole thing. What did they tell you? OK. Yes, I went to Paul because he wrote the webisodes and it is so plainly spelled out that Angela has a thing for him in those. And I went to Greg as well because I just felt like he had this overall view of everyone's relationships.


This is what Paul said. We never really entertained it going anywhere. We just thought it was funny that Angela liked this rougher, less tolerant guy when the rest of the world was thinking. He's kind of a jerk and they're all rooting for Jim. So they sort of liked that foil, right? That I was Team Roy. And then this is what Greg said. Greg said Roy and Pam were more of a traditional relationship. And Pam needed a more modern equal relationship.


But it made sense that Angela would be attracted to Roy. It could have turned into something. But Roy had to get in line behind Dwight and Andy.


Love it. Oh, I love it. I love it. Well, there you have it, guys. When you want the real deal on the office, we are your ladies. And when you want the real deal on insurance like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. All right. So then Michael is down in the warehouse. He's talking to Darryl. He finds out that Bob Vance has bought the warehouse. And Michael really starts to spin out and he tells the office he is not going to take this lying down.


He and Dwight, they are gonna go confront the CFO and they are going to save the branch. How what do you think they're going to do? But I do have an old tech alert, old tech track out, is it? Twelve minutes, 50 seconds. Dwight says, hey, he's you know, David Wallace isn't in the office. Don't worry. I have his home address. And he goes to his flip phone, Jeonju. See how he has to toggle to find the addresses.


Do you remember that? Yeah. And then he says, don't worry. He's on my Christmas card list. I loved this so much, Jonah. I love to think about what is Dwight's Christmas card? What is he sending out?


It's must be a picture of the beet farm. I feel like it's in some way also a piece of advertising. Maybe it's Mo's holding up a bunch of beets. I have a fan catch from Nico Martin when Michael and Dwight are driving to David Wallace's house. The temperature in the car says it's 80 degrees outside. Why are Michael and Dwight wearing trench coats? Well, Nico, that's because we shot this episode in August, but it aired on November 9th and we always tried to match the season in which the episode would air.


So that is also why you're going to see pumpkins outside at Davis Wallace's house. We placed them there, even though it was August, to make it seem like it was fall.


Yeah, we place them there and hope they wouldn't explode from the heat. Well, let's talk a little bit about the CFO house, because we got a lot of questions about it. It's a very nice house. We filmed there. I was I did a few episodes there, and it's a really beautiful home.


Well, well, well. I'm rubbing off on you. I know. Shaalan Guayabera asked, was that someone's actual house or was it random?


And Dixie Heidrick said, whose home was used as David Wallace's house and where was it located? Well, of course, I went to Kent, to P.D.A, and he told me that David Wallace's house is located on low meat to drive in Pasadena, California.


It's a beautiful neighborhood. Oh, it's a beautiful neighborhood. It was three houses away from the house used on the TV show Benson. It's just a little bit of trivia for it. So just a little bit more about this house. Jennifer Hodge and Whitney Gray sic wrote in and said at 14 minutes, 13 seconds. Why does David Wallace have an H. Monogrammed welcome mat? Shouldn't it be a W? And Anna Worthington said, are they at the wrong house?


Is that part of the joke? Did Dwight and Michael go to the wrong house? And that's why there's an H instead of a W.. Well, can't told me that it was the doormat of the people who owned the house and no one noticed the mistake until after they were in the editing room. And you'll see in the future. This is David Wallace's house. They just forgot to replace the welcome mat, the welcome mat, and also the golden retriever in the back yard.


No, that's a whole story. That golden retriever was placed there. I'll get to it. OK, well, I am intrigued, Jenna.


So wrong. Doormat, but real dog. We'll get to it. Maybe we should take a little break right now. And when we come back, guys, we have a really fun guest. Yes. All right. We'll see you in a second. All right, guys, we are back and we are in Stamford, and Jan has called Jim and Josh into Joshes office and she announces that Josh will be heading up what is now called Dunder Mifflin Northeast.


Jim will be his number two. This is exciting news. Jim is excited until Josh says Jan, I have actually accepted an offer from Staples. Yeah, and he's going to take it. Senior management position at Staples. Janna's ticked off. She's like, you leveraged this new position to get the Staples job when we orchestrated this whole merger just so we could keep you.


Yeah. So, guys, this is it. This is the last time we see Josh Porter. This character has been with us for three seasons. He first came up in the pilot. We don't see him, but he's mentioned in a scene where Jan and Michael are talking about downsizing. We finally meet him on Valentine's Day. And now he's leaving. And guys, Josh Porter, we've talked about this before, was played by Charles Estin. He appeared in eight episodes of the show.


He did a weird pilot with Rainn Wilson.


Yeah, we never got to work with him, but he's an awesome guy. And to commemorate his time on the show, we reached out to him and we got to chat with him a little bit. All right.


We're so excited to have him here. Let's play the interview.


A chap ain't no party like a Scranton party, Grand Party. So great to see you. Thank you so much. Are you kidding me? It is so great to see you guys. You know how it is. Do you do a show with somebody? And then this is you don't overlap again. And I'm in Nashville now, so I haven't been able to see you guys ever since then. And all I can say quickly is you could not have been kind or both of you or sincerely the only two nice people there.


We now. Yes. Thank you. Everybody was nice. You two were remarkably so, considering we had no scenes at all together. You were very kind and I appreciated it.


We were so excited to have you guys. And we you know, Jen and I were talking about this, that we had major foma because it seemed like all these great stories were coming out of the Stamford branch and funny inside jokes who were like, dang, we want to go to Stamford Pig shit picture picture from the other direction where you're the guy that gets to go beyond the office, but you don't get to go in the office, you're in another branch somewhere and you don't get it.


You don't get to be with everybody, but you do get to be with that with Jim. And he was awesome. John was fantastic.


And you got to wear a fancy biker shorts. Those are mine. I just showed up to work in those and. Yeah, I. I've played the good boss.


Well, you know, we've been trying to get a hold of you, Jenna, trying to slide into your DMV, but she must have had some other strange her's household or not. Chip Estin from Germany.


No, I have not. Charles Underscore Estin and I have so many famous leading ladies from classic sitcoms trying to talk to me on Instagram that I have.


Yeah, it's OK.


So we usually ask people on the show their origin story about how they came to be on the office. Like what was their audition process?


And we would love to hear yours first while I was a British office fan. Like so many from the very beginning. So I recall very, very well watching it, loving it all. And then I heard they were trying to the United States and like a lot of people went, oh, wow, OK, good luck. But then I had notes that I heard about Steve and Rain, that they had been cast. And I was like, hmm, that's that's a heck of a good start.


They might have a shot at this. Now, Steve, I don't know how I knew. We just knew each other from being in L.A. for a while and proper circles, maybe something like that. I don't think we'd ever worked together.


But he's somebody I'd see at the mall, the Sherman Oaks Mall. That's at first I tracked Steve. Steve used to, like, talk to John and I about, like, really good byes that he found over the weekend while he was working at Brookstone at the time.


No kidding.


He wasn't like this. I didn't know he was trying to sell me a massage chair.


No, he'd never as far as I know, I mean, the work that I do, I was him. But the way I knew reign is the interesting part that got me to the show brain. And I, I must say six or seven years. It's all a blur. Before that had been at an audition at NBC. You know, right across from the main place in Burbank was that little casting hot across the street there by the park.


And we were reading for this thing called The Expendables and The Expendables were androids that solved crimes, these two guys. That's why they were expendable, because who cares if they get you know, you can't beat them, you can't defeat them.


Chip, I did read about this. I read about this. And I got so tickled. So go on. Go on.


So I remember it was your chance because they really set you with you. You read with you because it's two guys. And so they they appear to stop and somehow just kismet brain. And I got chosen to be together. And I remember forget we went outside and we had script as there was some things to say, but we went outside and said, let's just have fun with this. And by the time we came back in, first of all, I had fallen in love with the guy that is Rainn Wilson.


Instantly we just clicked like that. I was like, what an incredible guy. What a mind. So we went in there and basically improvised on top of the script and ended up getting the job. And then we all had a table read at NBC right across the street in the big building. I'll never forget there's this long Congress table and we're all just reading the script and we're still messing around. We're still just being these two androids and just looking vaguely.


And so somehow we made it funny enough that they they end up shooting a pilot of it. And that's where I really got to hang with them the most. So in any event, we shoot that we have a ball. It does not get picked up. Shocker. Shocker. So I get to the audition and it's going well. I'm doing well enough, I guess. But I think the separating factor was one of them says so I hear Gore, I think was my I hear Gore.


You're friends with rain. And I was like, yes, I did. Did they ever tell you how we met in there? No. But it didn't. And that's that we met playing Naked Androids on a detective show. And they were both. And I said. And on top of that, if you give me this job, I show up day one with a DVD of that pilot.


I'm not even to my car. And I'm like, oh, cool. That's the best design ever. Got a job. So it had nothing to do with my abilities or acting otherwise. It was purely that I had I had this on rain. And so that's that's my origin story. And it's kind of special to because it's who can imagine by that. I'm already a fan. It was it was like being on it was like winning a radio contest to be on a show that I already loved.


I was very uncool about it because I was just so happy to be there. But you guys were all very cool about it.


So, Chip, after you got the job and you started working on the show, we said like it looked like you guys were having so much fun. What was it like to get to do these scenes with, like Ed Helms and Steve Carell and Rashida Jones? Like, do you have any any episodes in particular that you have fond memories of?


There is the one episode where Josh is very mad at Jim because Jim is playing Call of Duty and uses the sniper rifle and he's just starts screaming at him. And then, of course, that was amazing and that scene goes off. And so what I didn't realize is that everybody was playing that game for real. Are the breaks on the set? Did you guys have that same thing in years? I believe right now your computers were actually hooked up and everybody was playing Call of Duty.


So they just wrote it into the show. I had to. I hadn't played that much. I was like, now what right would they use? They explained everything to me. And then we went and we we did it. And it was so much fun.


Yeah. Our writers and editors were really into that. We didn't get to do that on set. We were always a little bummed, but they were playing it all the time. And on their DVD commentary, they did mention that John mentioned that's like one of the hardest times he had to work. Not to laugh was in that scene with you and Ed and you guys were just going off on him about Call of Duty.


That's the thing is you're in this business so long and you're in things that are pretty good and things are not good at all. And you're always this funny thing after the show is I remember people would walk up to me and go, I saw you in the office. You're very funny. And I knew that what it really was. I didn't say that many. I wasn't the funny part. I was more the situation than the comedy. But I did get some great, very, very funny lines here.


I was just in a room with Ed and John and Rasheeda and trying not to laugh or or just watching Michael Scott when he says, I love inside jokes. I like to be a part of one someday. That's just as good a line as anybody can write. And all I had to do was stand there and just do the thing where you don't laugh and you're kind of cringe. And I couldn't believe I was so thrilled.


Well, so what is it like for you now? Like, the office has had this new life on Netflix and it's everywhere. Do you get stopped? Do you get recognized for being on the show?


Well, what it mostly is, is on social media is that I was on other things since and like when I was on Nashville, I played a character called Deacon and I was people would watch it. It was a very dramatic, very sort of he was a he was in a and he was he was trying not to drink anymore. And you. And he loved this moment. So it was always very dramatic, very heartfelt playing music, did all these things.


So inevitably I would see a tweet that would say just realized that Deacon from Nashville is Josh from Stanford. And I always had that hash tag mind blown. So that's mostly where it happened. It used to be that the office was a little bit more new, like somebody go, I know you from the office, but now it's you're right. There's just a resurgence church. The second thing. The best evidence of that is my own kids. When I was doing this show, they were in there in junior high elementary.


Maybe one of those in high school. No, they weren't, though, in junior high today. No. At the office was really didn't watch it on television. But now that I have to start going back, how many years is appended? This research is three years more.


Whatever. Gosh, it feels like in the last three or four years. Yeah.


The last three years, I think it was always on in our house. I think I told Angela it was on in the summer more than the air conditioning. It was just and then I fell in love with it. They know it so well. So that was maybe the first time when it was really cool that they did. They were cool. Chill about it. But yeah, you're on it. But I could tell it meant a lot and it means a lot to me.


Oh, that is so cool.


The other rabbit hole I pulled down with you guys is the one he called the bloopers the bloopers on Netflix. If I start watching one, I'm there all the time. And I think that's because it's the best of remembering the parts of the show you love so much. But then getting to see how authentically funny it struck you guys, like sometimes you'd be watching you go. This isn't saying they don't seem that. They just spread it. I mean, I'm an actor and I would think that.


And then you come away and you would see where everybody did break up with that line or where there would be lines that you just could not get out to save your life. And those always killed me. And also the scenes that never made it. Great scene with Millau. That didn't didn't make it, and we were at the convention and at the end of the night, all this stuff is gone on. I'm walking Jan and Jobster, walking that towards the elevators and basically Djan stops and it's just on that's a DVD.


So she taught on you and you're like, now I'm head.


Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm gonna go to Staples. Exactly.


You talked about how you were the good boss, but in this episode at the end, you sort of serve up the ultimate betrayal and you leverage your job for a position at Staples. What did you think when you read that? Were you disappointed at all? And Josh are dead? What are you like? I get it. I mean, who wants to work with this group of loonies at that point? I was just more disappointed for Chip that I was shocked because I knew that Ed and Ricciuto were.


We're moving on. And I knew it. I always knew that it wouldn't work to have the other boss there with him. I just saw something the other day, Janet, that I've done a lot of drama. There are moments, the moment where he admires your painting so much and he says, that's our office and you're just looking at him and you hug. And that's, to me as emotional and as real and as heartbreaking as any drama anywhere.


So that's another thing I've always loved about it. And you guys. Yeah, for sure.


I mean, Steve broke my heart many times on this show, just his sort of childlike innocence as Michael, even though he was a lot of times just a real like, I don't know, like idiot. Like, he was also this very pure hearted person and complicated. Yeah.


And I look now and I know how hard that is for. Right. As we've seen things on different shows that go another season in another season, it's like how they keep it all together, because that's always the tension when you have the fall, when you have the more on her people. What makes them funny is how out there they are. What makes them human is the grounding of that and giving up the other side. That tension between those two things, it's so hard to write where you don't make them not funny anymore because now they're just superhuman.


And Kyle and don't we love them or other times you just need them like they don't have any arc at all. They're just that same person they always were the way that they did that over the seasons with you guys. It's just it's it's very unusual and special.


Well, your character of Josh had a great arc.


I did. You thought I was the perfect guy. That said, the thing is that I always thought this is charismatic. It all comes very easy to him. And in the end, he does that. I had one of the fun thing when it was on my final episode. Josh is the reason that Branch is it is essentially going to be shutting down. So at that point, he doesn't think he has a job anymore. He's just flipping out and down.


So there's that. There's a scene in the kitchen they had and all the scene was was and he walks in there, he's pouring some coffee or something else. And we get that first hint of that Andy Bernard anger that he later has to do it and he just flips out and sort of destroys everything and stops. And that was the scene. And I was real proud because I said, what if Josh, the guy that's the cause of it, walked in right after that?


And just to say goodbye. My guess is that Andy is not strong enough or brave enough to do anything but go great. That was awesome. Granges you know, he would have to cover his fury immediately and be sort of the worst that he was in that moment. And then they said, yeah, let's try that. So that was not why he destroyed that room. And I walked in there and I go listen. And it's been great and.


Austin and everything like that.


Gosh, that was always your pitch. I love that. I love that. You know, Chip, we talk about this a lot, that we had this creative collaboration that we could in the moment pitch something to the writer on set. And we were heard. And that is so rare, truly. And we were so lucky to have that relationship with our writers. And I read that we didn't know that. We didn't know that was your pitch.


That's so cool. And also furthers the Andy character, because Andy was always just white knuckling his anger, you know, and suppressing it until eventually, you know, he's gonna punch the wall. But you love seeing him try to contain that. Such an Andy thing, too.


So that's kind of cool that I that I get to see that get to see. And also the other thing. How cool is it when you have a good idea, a little pitch and you're surrounded by people that are going to make your pitch amazing? I've been in other places. We make a pitch and I try it and it just doesn't get sold the way that you had it in your head. But that got sold out and beyond anything, I could imagine what he did with it.


So we did. And it absolutely just crystallized who Andy was. You know, just all that moment says who he is. That is fantastic. I love that story.


Chip, thank you so much. Thank you for coming on here and sharing about your time on the office. We are so glad that we got a hold of you. Thank you, Gar. Where can we find you? Tell us where you are on Instagram. I'm a Charles Underscore Estin. I'm also Charles. That's on Twitter and Face. Get and Chip, you're also you're you're on a show right now called Outer Banks on Netflix. Yeah, we were number one on Netflix, one little show called The Office.


Quick minute there.


Yeah, it's something else. It's really kind of amazing. We shot it last summer. It's sort of a young adult, thrilling adventure as it's amazing. Hi, Paul and Sean.


As I said, we knocked Tiger King out of Tiger things, something that says something. And then I have one more thing to share with everyone. You do a weekly Saturday Facebook Live stream, and it's called Quarantine Lifestream. Is that right? Yeah, because of that show, national music on that. So that's why I'm still here in Nashville. I get to do very cool things like play at the Grand Ole Opry, at the Bluebird, at the Ryman.


Oh, wow. Go around and make music. So I'm on Spotify too. But in any event, charges play a couple songs on a show on the cartoon livestream. And then I do another thing where I do a duet with somebody. I send them video of me singing. They listen and sing along and we put them together in a video. So there's always a duet. And then I do interviews as well. Just like you're doing right here.


Oh, this was it last week. That last week was Old Dominion, that the band Old Dominion and a beautiful chip. Thank you so much. This was such a delight.


Oh, thank you guys very much for having me. I love that you're doing this. Everybody loves you. You're doing this thing is on fire, this podcast, because why would they want more than discuss these things that you guys so well done? And hopefully I get to see you down the road in some other situation. But thanks for having me.


Thanks. Say, I love you. Love you. Love you, too. Bye bye.


All right. So that was amazing. Thank you so much. Chip, it was that was really cool. I'm glad we were able to commemorate his time on the show.


And to all of you, other chips, slash turtles is out there that Jenna slid into your DMZ. We apologize.


OK. Jonah, where are we? So Dwight and Michael are still outside of David Wallace's house and they've decided that they're going to practice. They're going to role play what Michael is going to say when he sees David walking up. Right.


Yeah. They got to be prepared. Yes. So I traded some messages with Mike. Sure. And he told me that there was an element of the scene that was improvised and it made everyone laugh so hard that they were able to keep it in. But they had to cut at this one moment because right after that moment, like one second after that moment, everyone started breaking. So during this scene, when they're role playing, Dwight is pretending to be David Wallace and he's doing a good job.


He's making good arguments. So Michael gets frustrated and he has this line where he says something like, just go back and start over and be more intimidated by me. OK? That's where it was supposed to end. That was the scripted ending of the scene. But when they shot it, Raine walks back in and Steve says, Mr. Wallace rainbows. Oh, kind of like he's terrified. That was the moment Mike said it was amazing. And we literally couldn't go one frame later because they both started laughing hysterically.


Yes, I love that, guys, because Steve is Michael's like, be more scared of me and don't touch me.


Yeah, it was so good. It was so good. All right.


So now, lady, do you want me to tell you about this dog? Yes. I want you to tell me about the dog, because I saw the doormat and I was like, oh, yeah. They just forgot. They forgot. And then I saw the dog and I was like, more than that's that's just people's dog.


I know. It's crazy. All right. So there's this scene where Dwight is sifting through the garbage. And by the way, this scene of him looking through the garbage. This was another one of those scenes that had been cut for the regular network airing of this episode. We got a ton of questions about this scene. Jocelyn Beecher wrote in and said at 19 minutes at David Wallace's house, there's a dog in the yard. Did they specifically cast for a dog or did that dog belong to the people who own the house?


All right. The tug in the back yard was something that they added and they added it because they thought that there might be more of a feeling of jeopardy involved if there was like this guard dog or this watch dog standing behind Dwight as he sifted through the garbage.


That was the friendliest look I know ever. That's dagoes wagging its tail. It looked like it just wanted to play fetch. That dog made me want to get another dog. And we already have two dogs and two cats.


I mean, Kent told me they hired a dog trainer. They hired this dog. And he was so sweet. He just wanted to play. He just wanted to, like, lick your hand. Basically, it was like in no way intimidating. Just like use that. Yeah. But they they stuck with it. They stuck with their like this dog is gonna be in the shot. We paid for this dog. Well the dog looks so friendly to me.


I just thought the owner's dog got out in the back of the shot and they left it in. That's what it looked like.


Totally. All right. Well, listen, back in Scranton. Phyllis is bummed out. She's trying to organize a group lunch. Yeah, yeah. And of course, you know, she goes to the fun stopper, Angela Martin, and they're they're throwing out some things deejay's, which, by the way, deejay's is a hoagie shop. And then there's Camino's Italian family cuisine. Right. And Angela, like, I don't want to drive to Dunmore.


Jonah, I looked it up. Scranton to Dunmore. Nine minutes. Now I want to drive nine minutes. Nine minutes. And then Kevin's like, what about Cooper's? And she's like, no seafood. And I want you to know, Brian and I have been to Cooper's. When we went to Scranton and they gave us like a little hat that looks like lobster. Ready, home, Claus? Yeah. They gave us each hat. I have photos of Brian and I like drinking beers with these lobster claw hats.


It was really fun, but yeah. Amsel, Bartons, very good seafood.


And then I can't even believe Kevin suggests Hooters to her. Are you kidding me?


I know in the middle of all this, Phyllis just walks away. She's like, never mom. Yeah. You guys are the works at it. Yeah. At the same time, Crede is walking around. He's dealing with this by selling everything in the office. He's selling the equipment. The fax machine. His personal computer. And I think if you look on the wall behind him, the dust buster off the wall, it's gone.


I have a hair catch for Creed. I think this episode debuts a new herself or create its poofy. It's like they blow dry it straight up in the air and then, like, used a rolling brush. I want you to look at his hair. It is so poofy. It made me laugh.


Lady, I noticed the same thing. I have the same no creed hair. Yeah. I wrote down what's up with Kreis hair. Do they use the rolling brush him. Like what's happening.


We're going to have to track it because I want to see if that continues in future episodes. This new way of doing Crete's hair. The poofy scoop booth. Yes. By the way, that whole storyline of Creede selling stuff, that was the other thing that was cut out originally and was added back for the extended cut. So the three main things were the Meredith storyline, this Crede storyline and Dwight going through the trash. Got it with the friendly dog.


Well, with the front end. All right.


So now Jan enters. She's looking for Michael because things have changed. Josh Porter threw them for a loop. They've had to reorganize, restructure, and she wants to let them know that now Scranton is staying in Stamford, is gonna be merging into SCRAM. Right. Yes. But Jackel Michael has been ignoring phone calls and a lady. We have some major Phillies service.


What's the Phillies SAS? Well, it is at 20 minutes, 40 seconds. She looks at Jan and she goes, we know the branches closing and she gives Jan the snarky assed look. It's so amazing. It cracked me up and I was looking online for, like, sasy office moments.


I just wanted to see if this had been clocked on May 16th. Two thousand and twenty. Which is just a few days ago from this recording. Right? Yes. There is a new YouTube video collage that someone made called Sassiest Moments. On YouTube, sassiest moments from the office. I think they have been listening to the podcast because all of a sudden there's the sassiest moments, collage on YouTube.


Angela, you 100 percent started sass. You started early with Angela fast. And if anyone is out there using SAS or sassing or referring to something as SAS, I want everyone to know that you started it.


Well, 100 percent. You trade I you should have trademarked it. Well, I just couldn't believe there's now just now, like just this week. There's a YouTube collage called Sassiest Moments of the Office.


Anyway, there's Major Phil Sass here. So, yes, Jan tells everyone the Scranton branch is safe for now. There's a lot of mixed emotions. Some people are really happy. Some people are sad. Kevin and Angela have a huge hug.


Oh, lady, we got a fan question about that from Phoebe Tomac when Kevin hugs Angela and picks her up. It looks like Angela got crushed a little bit and she wants to know you got hurt.


No, I did not get hurt. That was just I think Brian having a little bit of fun because he is such a big guy. He can pick me up really easily and win with our characters. Ever hug or be this happy together? So that was just something he added. It wasn't in the script and he and I cracked up. I think you see me like I think I'm genuinely laughing because it made us laugh.


So also in the scene, Angela, Pam asks Jan, is anyone coming back to Scranton? Mm hmm. We know who she's thinking about. Yeah. And over in Stamford, Andy is asking Jim if he's going to go back to Scranton. And he sort of says he doesn't know yet. He's not sure. He is he's thinking about it. And then Ryan in the kitchen is like, I'm a little, you know, nervous about Jim coming back.


I just hope it's not weird. Pam, of course, totally internalizes this. Oh, my God. He knows. He knows. And he's like, I took his job. I sit at his desk. It's it's more about it's all about him, right? Yeah. And so he was kind of relieved in that moment. Next, Ryan's gonna have his talking head where he knows he'll be saying Scranton. Here's the moment. Twenty three minutes, six seconds from here on out.


All of the talking heads are facing back into the office, lady.


This is your proudest podcast, deep dive moment. Maybe next to. I think it is. I think this ranks right up there with your alpha woom deep dive.


Oh, I did enjoy Alpha one. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Then over in Stamford, Karen is saying, you know, she would move to Scranton if they offered it to her. Jim gives this poor woman so many mixed messages. OK, I have some beef with Jim because he's like, why would you do that? Just go to New York. I mean, you're 45 minutes from New York. Why would you go to Scranton?


Right. And then he pivots back the other way at the end and tells her to take the job. I feel bad. I feel bad for her.


I feel like these mixed messages are gonna play out through the whole Jim Keran relationship, actually. Yeah, Jim is very wishy washy with her, in my opinion, in this scene at 23 minutes. 17 seconds. I have a lead.


Catch your husband, leave my husband. Leave. We were like, yo, you're like, what other league am I talking about? Like, yes, my husbandly. OK, why catch and weed? We watched this episode together and he said, oh my gosh, look at the sign behind Karen's head during this conversation about whether or not she should move to Scranton. Do you know what it says? No. It says window of opportunity. An obstacle to one is an opportunity to another.


I just thought we thought this was interesting because I was showing him all the talking heads and he was like, oh, look at what's behind Karen. It's a window of opportunity. Lay those. Well, back in Scranton. Meredith is congratulating Crede on his business venture. He's made twelve hundred dollars. And finally, Gary Trindall calls. He calls Merideth Dino. Why he used to work at the Scranton branch. And he says, I heard the branch was closing.


Do you still want to make good on our agreement? Meredith found her guy. She did make a sex pact with someone.


She almost confesses the branches in closing. And then she's like, can you meet me at my place in 20 minutes?


We had a fan question from Bailey, asked Benson at twenty four minutes, 30 seconds when Meredith is talking on the phone. Who is she talking to? Do you know, of course, I don't know. Can't support act finally, can't be finally.


Can't can't.


Zbornak played the voice of Gary Trundle.


He was gonna be my first guest. Yes. Yes. So Dwight and Michael are in the car and they're they're reminiscing now about their favorite memories of Dunder Mifflin because they've ignored phone calls, you know, and they don't know that their jobs are safe. And Dwight says to Michael, what's your favorite memory? You know? And he goes, all of it. All of it. And then Dwight goes. Even the part where the branch was closed.


And he's like, Dwight, was that part scripted? When I said it was, yes.


OK. Scene in the car is almost word for word scripted. All right. I didn't know if that was like rain tagging the end of the scene. So I love that.


It's so funny, Angela. Because the reason I know that is because I had the same thought when I watched it and I checked. I wanted to know, is that scripted? Well, here's the thing. We often could add a line at the end of a scene. That's the easiest place to improvise because it doesn't really mess up the context of the scene. So whenever I see these little throwaways at the end, especially by Steven Rain, I always wonder.


Yeah. Now, that one was totally, totally scripted.


Well, now we're back at Scranton and the gang is going out for shots. Creed is buying records. Yeah. Creed made some money today. Jenna, did you notice as Angela leaves what a big wave she gives to Roy? No.


This is more. More of more of an almost awkward.


It's almost awkward. At 26 minutes. Thirty five seconds. She walks by and literally goes like this. You guys can't see me, but I'm gonna do it for Jenna.


Oh, that's a big way. Yes, it's a really big wave. So she for sure is like by handsome her.


Well, Pam now has her talking head facing into the office. I will say. And she is giddy. She's giddy. She's saying stuff like, oh, you know, it's good because finding another job is kind of a pain and. And there are reasons to stay. But underneath all she is thinking is Jim is coming back. Jim is coming back. Jim is coming back. Jim is coming back. That everything. Everything. And you're so excited for her.


And then we go to Stamford. And Jim tells Karen he thinks she should take a job in Scranton, too.


And Karen just lays it all out for the camera crew. She's just like, hey, I'm happy you said that. I don't think he's into me, but I'm kind of into him. So there's that. Wow. This is like someone who sort of unapologetically into this guy. I did it about her. I like it.


Jim doesn't even tell her apparently about what went on with Pam. So she's walking into Scranton and she has no idea that he kissed the receptionist. He has she has no idea that there was this four year flirtation. She's just like, I like this guy. I'm gonna go to Scranton and see what happens. I'm going take it one step more and say she has no idea that he said, I love you. Hello. I love you to the receptionist.


We are being very team Karen Filippelli right now. We are. Because Jim Jim is spiraling. Let's be honest.


I mean, listen, I can justify Jim's choices and his behavior. He has a broken heart. He's confused. He's crushed. We've all been wishy washy. We've all you know, we've all kind of done versions of this in our life and had versions of it done to us. All right. So moving on, Dwight and Michael are still outside. David Wallace's house. He's never come home. It's dark. They're hungry. But Dwight won't let them leave.


But finally, he says, yes, we can go. And as they're leaving, Dwight checks his phone, clearly gets a message that their jobs are safe. And this is delightful.


They're like, we did it. They're like, wait, they're bumping chefs. But they literally are like, we did it. Like, what did they do?


And even at the end, I think Steve is Michael's like, wait, what do we do?


Yeah. How did this happen? I'm so confused. And then I love it. I love it, too. They're so happy. And then. And then the whole episode ends with Toby saying, well, I guess I won't go to Costa Rica. I'll just it'll be there when I'm 65. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Guys, there you have it.


That's branch closing. That is branch closing, guys. Next week, we have a very special episode of Office Ladies. We are going to revisit our casino night episode with special guest Ken Quabbin. Yes, the director is coming on to give us all of the behind the scenes stuff. This was such a big episode and so many of you wrote in that we saw it. Let's revisit it with the director, answer some of your questions and talk a little bit more about it.


Thank you so much for calling in, Chip. And thank you guys for tuning in. We'll see you next week.


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