I'm Jenna Fischer, and I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends and now we're doing the ultimate office rewash podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you where the office ladies. Hello, everyone. Hi there. Do you have your drink ready? Did you pour a drink? Because today we're talking about cocktails.

I should have doing it. Why are we not drinking right now?

That's a whole other podcast. But you know what?

With all of the kids like virtual learning, it might have to happen.

Angela, do you want to tell everyone where you are right now? Yes.

You guys OK, so the Internet at my house is El Krupski and I say El Krupski.

That's where you think you can said worse. So the Internet at my house is really bad. And apparently we're in an area that doesn't even qualify for a real upgrade like we've called. And they're like, yeah, no, it's not available there. And I'm like, what are you talking about? So anyway, I just I just did not have a great system. I tried Jenah. I really tried for months. Four months. Yeah. And what you guys haven't seen is I would just be zooming Jenna and then I just get the boot for like forty five minutes.

Yeah.

And then people are always like, why don't you guys just do a video version of your podcast, just throw it on up there. And I'm like, well if you want to see forty five minutes of actual cursing and disappearing and coming back, you're happy to throw it on up for you. Sam said his favorite was when Mindy was a guest. I got booted off three times and he said he could hear on my audio track you and Mindy were talking and I was just going, Mother.

So yes, also, Angela, you would be frozen and then Mindy and I wouldn't really know if you were there or not. And so we would throw to you. We'd be like, right. And oh, I don't think she's there. No, she's not.

She's not responding. She's not moving. So I am really excited, very covid safely. Thank you to the folks at Airwolf today. I guess at Airwolf it's just me in one room, Sam in another room.

And I guess Conan O'Brien is coming later. Oh, he canceled, so it's just me and say, oh, it's just me and Sam here today. And when I saw Sam, I thought I was going to cry because it was just so fun to see him in person rather than just hearing him.

Well, it's really cool for me to see you in the studio. It's making me very homesick. I know.

And then I have my mask and we have sanitiser. And you guys were we're figuring it out.

We're figuring it out how to how to safely return to work. And that that gives me hope. Yeah. And I know a lot of you all out there are doing this.

I know my sister. You know, my sister's a nurse and one of my sisters works for the phone company. And she gave me a real lecture on Wi-Fi. And what I apparently don't have you guys, there's there's this thing.

It's like the holy grail of Wi-Fi. Jenna, I think you know what it's called. It's like gaymer Wi-Fi. Yeah, you get a game or modem and it can just handle a lot and we got it because, you know, we're trying to make a podcast while both of my kids are zooming school. So to have three of us on the system, the guy came by to install it and he had this little like thing that shows you the strength of your signal.

He looked at my husband.

He goes, you guys really don't get much of a signal here. And we're like, yeah, we know. We're aware. It's why you're here.

At least it's available in your area. It's available in our area. Well, now we need to get you gamer headphones and we need to get you a gamer chair. Have you seen they have these special gamer chairs? Oh, it would make me really happy to see you sitting in one.

Are we ever going to talk about the episode today? I don't know. Oh, God, maybe we shouldn't. What are we here for? Oh, my gosh. Twenty minutes later is cocktails, you guys. Season three, Episode 17. It is written by Paul Lieberstein and directed by J.J. Abrams. Here's a quick summary.

Michael and Jan go public with their relationship when they attend a party at David Wallace's home, the CFO, not his initials, common mistake, everyone else in the office goes out for happy hour.

And Pam tells Roy about her and Jim. Oh, Pam, Pam, not Pammy, but Pam, don't call me Pam. Don't call her Pammy. I bet you have some fast facts fast.

Fact number one, this is a fan question from Scott F. Eladio Ben and Abby Kellner. How was J.J. Abrams tapped to direct? Right. J.J. Abrams, when did this freakin Abrams you guys Google him?

He's done everything. We could not believe he was coming to our little show.

Now, this was before he directed Star Wars.

But Angela still Slagle, does it freak you out that Star Wars guy directed you in an episode of The Office?

JJ, I know you probably listen to our podcast faithfully. Why wasn't there a very tiny, petite, sassy blonde, in her words movie, please?

Just in the background, I don't even have to say anything. Please, can I just be an extra in a Star Wars movie, please? Yeah, I'll just walk by and we'll just walk by, she won't do anything but just walk by. Tiny blonde comedian is just going to walk on through Star Wars.

No shenanigans. I won't look at camera. I'll look just straight at the ground.

I hope I hope he hears that. Well, listen, guys, so at this point, J.J. Abrams was most famous for the TV shows Lost and alias Felicity Felicity.

He did Felicity to this. Wow, I know that wasn't in my notes. What, what?

Well, I think it was just because I was such a huge fan of Lost and Alias, the role you didn't get. Thanks for reminding me, I have to tell you. Oh, my God, this made me laugh so hard. You posted about the Ben Franklin episode and you were like on your Instagram. You were like and, you know, also we talk about the fact that I didn't get the part of Sydney and alias Jennifer Garner went away in and I responded.

Did you see her post from the beach?

Did you see her try to ride that skimmer thing?

I mean, come on, lady, I can't believe you are doubling down on this. I did one hour of yoga today very easily. Well, I'll have, you know, which basically qualifies me to play a spy on television.

Look out, community of secrets.

OK, OK. In case you're wondering, I did not confront J.J. Abrams about why I did not receive the role of Sydney Bristow opportunity missed.

I let it go. But here's the thing. Here's what happened, guys. He reached out to us about directing an episode and we were like, yeah. And we were like, come direct an episode. That's how it happened.

We were so giddy, Jenna. We were all so excited. I just remember him being so smiley, remember how much he smiled, he was like so happy and kind and just energetic, he was so nice. And then, like, I don't know, a few months later, I ran into JJ and his wife at like a fancy, you know, award show party. And he was like Angelyne, like, chatted me up and she was so nice.

They're just really nice folks. Yeah.

Yeah, it's all true. So put me in your stinking Star Wars movie Jet. Yeah, she just wants to I just want to walk on.

All right. Fastback no too.

Lady, I'm calling this one location change. Why are you saying it like that. I don't know, is it intriguing location change? Yeah, yeah, I'm intrigued. All right, good fan question from Anna Carter, B. Smith, Sophia B. Chelsea Lane and Berkeley s.

What house was used as David Wallace's home in this episode? Was it the same house used for the inside and the outside? And then we've got additional questions from Mary Roberts, Kelsie Joseph Zugzwang, Kendall Kay and Yvonne A.. Hold up, David Wallace's house is a different house than the one used in branch closing, but some of the details are the same.

What gives here is the answer. Yes, guys, these are good questions because the original house that you saw in branch closing was in Pasadena. This is a different house. This one is in Encino. More people wrote in about the house, too. And many people noted that this house has a circular driveway in the front, which is different. We changed the house because J.J. Abrams really liked the interior of this house. So we did dress the front door to match the front door of the Pasadena house.

But, yeah, it's it was a different house.

Good I good. Gary. Good catch, folks. Real good catch.

And that makes sense because he would need the interior of the house more than the exterior because the whole episode almost happens in that house. Yeah. And it needed to flow. And there's a lot of moments in this episode where you're on one group of people and then the camera will rack focus and then some other thing is happening in the background. So having that open floor plan inside was really important to the storytelling. I agree.

All right. So my next little piece of this fast fact is about poor Richard. Mm. We shot Poor Richard's at the Pickwick Pub, which is inside the Pickwick Bowling Alley in Burbank, California, which is right next to the Pickwick Ice Rink where we shot Michael's birthday. Well, I have a question for you about this, because and if memory serves, we shot the interiors stuff at Pickwick, but that exterior parking lot was a different location. Yes.

And it was the bar, what's it called? The bar at Oyster House on Moorpark. In Studio City. Great catch, lady. Yes, yes, lady, I knew what parking lot that was because back in yielder improv days when I was performing long form improv, sometimes we would go there afterwards for a drink to celebrate our show.

So the actual bar that's inside of that parking lot area is called Oyster Bar. It's called the bar at Oyster House. Oh, you have never been. And you can enter from the parking lot, which is how we sort of set it up. Right. Or you can enter from the street. Just now, I have a question for you, because I know we're going to talk more about Poor Richard's later. Have you been to the real poor Richards and Scranton, Angela?

Yes.

And do you enter from a parking lot? Yes. And was it a good match? Sort of, oh, I cannot wait to hear more saving. OK, I'll save it. All right, I'm going to move us on to fast track number three. Lady, what do you remember during Ben Franklin when we said that the SAG nominating guy came to set to tell us that we were all nominated for SAG Awards?

Yeah, well, we shot this episode right after we won our SAG Awards.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, darn it. Dang it. I should have looked at my journal. I bet I wrote about it. I wrote about it in my journal. It OK, would you write? OK, here's what I wrote. We won the SAG Award for Best Comedic Ensemble Cast. Our table was right next to the people from twenty four. So yes, I was drooling all night.

What is that. Why am I saying the lady. We were such dorks. What a great group of people. I talked to Kiefer or should I say Batbold. That's what I wrote.

Later that night I met Patrick Dempsey. Oh my God. Right.

He has magic sparkles that rotate around his head. The word dreamy is completely accurate.

I don't know what happens to the two of us, but when we write in our journals, it's like a 13 year old girl is writing and sparkly pencil, you know, 100 percent.

What is this diary? Gee, I was a grown woman when I wrote, you know.

All right. Then I wrote the best part of the night was probably when Oscar, David, Angela, Cate and her boyfriend and I all started dancing in the middle of a party that did not have a dance floor.

That sounds like us. That does. But we started a craze and soon a bunch of people were all going to town.

I think that's the night I was doing like a really kind of rock and roll version of the Charleston with Jack McBrayer. And I step back right onto Oscar's date's foot.

Oh, remember that? I felt so bad.

Now, this isn't the night that you jumped into the pool with your dress on, is it? That's later.

Oh, that's a different night. We'll get to that. Guys always wanted to do it. People had jumped in a pool and their fancy dresses. Remember, Angelina Jolie did this one time.

Look, she wasn't at this party, but I was determined to do this once in my life.

I regret not doing it. Oh, I'll tell you, the car ride home sucked. But the first part was magical. All right, guys, well, we're going to take a break and we will be back to break down this episode. Cocktail's Yeah.

All right, you guys, we are back now before I break down the cold open for you. I have a few observations to share with you that I remember. No one. Steve was sick. Do you remember? Yes, I don't. He had like a cold bug this week, and you can hear it. You can hear it if you watch. So he really had to power through because there were a few scenes he was not feeling well in.

And no fellus.

No, Phyllis. Still, this is on our honeymoon. Oh, yes. Yeah.

So no. Phyllis And then before we get into the cold, open the blooper reel that's online for this episode is fantastic. My daughter loved it.

We watched it over and over. And now I can see these moments where people were breaking. I'm going to point them out as we go, OK?

Oh, I love that. All right. So in this cold open, Michael is going to show off his magic skills. You know, he's been in magic camp and he has a straight jacket on. Dwight is securing chains around him.

He's going to lock it up and then show everyone how he can be a Houdini and get out of it.

Yes, well, we had a fan question about this and Megan Keel, Rhiannon, Cobb, Ali, Joe Higginbotham, Charlotte, Nicholas and Claire Nichols all asked, how long did Steve have to be in that straitjacket?

He spent the morning in that thing. Yeah, I asked Kent Zbornak about it because, you know, he keeps all the logs from our production.

Are you kidding me? That's how he tells me all this stuff, Angela. He has all of the call sheets and the production logs and all the he has it all on file.

I knew he had a lot of information. I didn't realize he had, like the production logs that show the time increments we spent on each scene. That is crazy. Yeah, he said that. All told, Steve was in the straitjacket for about an hour and a half. We didn't do that many takes. We did about seven or eight based on his records.

But knowing now that Steve was sick while he was rolling around on the ground trying to get out of that crazy outfit is.

Oh, my gosh, yeah. He was like flopping off the chair, like diving across the table, knocking a plant over. Well, here's my question, you know, you saw that he had the very, very large key in the corner of his mouth, right?

So obviously, yes, that then falls on the ground and Jim steps on it with his foot. That was just step one. I mean, let's say he was able to get the key and undo the chains.

How was he going to get out of the straitjacket? I don't know.

But in the blooper reel in one take, Steve manages to get out of the straitjacket. No. Yes. And we all cheered. I remember shooting that. I know it was like the same moment. I remember when, like in basketball, when he actually made one of those crazy Hail Mary shots and we all cheered, but they can't use it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, lady, we also had a fan catch and I love this fan catch. It's from Stella AP and Madison. Jay in the cold open. Jim says to Kevin, Have a good weekend. It's Friday and no one is dressed for casual Friday. Oh, that's a very good catch. I bet that made you happy. They went on to say, isn't casual Fridays supposed to exist until Toby cancels it in season five, episode twenty six.

Wow.

Applause All right, so should we move on and get into this episode? Yes, let's do it. Michael and Dwight are getting ready to leave for this big party at David Wallace's house. He makes Dwight smell his breath.

He just gets in there. It's like Steve's head is a Pez dispenser.

Reid is crawling inside it. I don't know how they got through that.

I know. And I love Dwights Line. He's like, good. Not great. Yeah, well, yeah, OK.

And then Michael has this talking head, you guys, where he really lays out the stakes of this episode for him.

It is Jan in his coming out party.

He said there, there finally an official couple. This means a lot to him.

Yeah. Yeah. And I have one thing. It's a blooper reel catch of someone about to break you guys at three minutes. Fifteen seconds.

Michael is trying to see if Jim wants to carpool. He leans down. He's like one carpool. John could not get it together. John was laughing so hard and Steve knew it and Steve was messing with him. Steve, at one point in the bloopers goes, You want to ride my Sebring?

It you know, he knew that was going to make John break. John was like destroyed by it.

Oh, I loved it whenever Steve would do that. And he would do it to John mostly because he would find some little thing. And it was usually when he would get like real real close. Yeah.

You want to carpool? Yeah, I want to ride my Sebring.

Yeah, it's really fun to watch. So now we cut to Michael and Dwight are in the car and Dwight is like, thank you so much for bringing me along.

And Michael's like, wait a second, should I have brought you along. I don't know. Yeah.

And then Jan calls on speakerphone and do we find out Michael's nickname for her in this moment?

Is he call her. He says, Hello, Buttercup. Oh, is this a Princess Bride moment? It sounds like it a little bit. Well, Jan is like, what do you say we blow off this party and we just like we just go after each other like we did on that black sand beach in Jamaica? Yeah.

Doesn't she say something like why we just smash up each other or something? It's a real visual image I probably didn't need.

And then she's like, wait, am I on speakerphone? Or the camera's there and she's like, I'll just see you at the party. But Michael, Michael, it does not want to go get it on with Jan. He is like, no, I want to go to this party with you and show everyone that you and I are together.

I know this kind of breaks my heart because it's clearly so important for him and she just wants to blow it off.

She doesn't want to go public with him and he's kind of forcing her hand.

And Jan, I know you're a fictional character and you won't ever hear this, but I need to say it always assume you're on speakerphone and cameras are rolling. This is something that comes up with her all the time. She's like, are the cameras there? I'm like, why are you asking? Just give up there. There. It's so true. Well, then, Jenna, as they're often on their way, we have at front reception Roy and and Pam and Pam is like, Roy, come out with us tonight.

And he's like, no, my brother took a bath on the jet skis. We're going to go get drunk. And you're like, yeah, we're going to a bar. We're going somewhere where that can happen.

And you've got to do boyfriend stuff if you want to be my boyfriend. Right. You make a big speech. Yeah. And Roy is like, OK. Mm hmm. And it's kind of this nice moment where you see Pam as being more assertive. And Roy, here's her.

Well, there's a deleted scene, Jenna, that would have happened right here that I thought was really sweet, where Roy notices your art has been framed and is hanging on the wall and he complements it.

He's like, oh, my God, it's your art. It's framed. You know, that's so cool. And it's this sweet moment that I think would have just extended that beat of where Roy, he's trying.

Yeah. Before we move on from the sweet Pam Roy Beaumont, there is a new plant alert, another new plant at reception.

I wish really and truly there was a way that someone could, by the end of the nine years, tell us how many plants that Pam had.

There is a new plant. It's in a very cute blue ceramic pot with what looks like to be like little colorful balloons on the pot. Hmm. It's very cute. It won't last. Very cute. Oh, my gosh.

What is this, like, secret story we're telling about Pam's ability to care for house plants?

Well, it's not much of a story. You know, a friend of mine gave me an air plant recently. It lives on air. You like water it once a week. You you turn it upside down and you put it in a glass of water and then you put it back in the pot. And you know what, Angela? It's dead. Well, it doesn't sound like a real thing. You know, it's real.

And air plant is real. It's a real thing. It was living in air. It's not even in any soil.

What do you mean in air? What does that even look like? It looks like a plant.

It's in a piece of wood, but there's no soil or water in the pot. OK, OK. It's like a ferney kind of plant. OK, and then you the idea is that this is the thing that people who can't keep other plants alive can keep alive because it lives on air. I don't know. But mine is dead.

It's like a fancy chia pet. No, no, it's an air plant. It was an air plant.

It was oh my gosh, you and Pam can't keep plants alive.

We can't. Well, listen, Pam is now going to have her big moment in her talking head. All right, everyone, she is going to start being direct with people. She's going to start asking for what she wants. She says, look out, world old Pam is getting what she wants. And don't call me Pam. Yeah. I get that quoted to me a lot. Do you really? Yeah, and don't call me Pammy. The things people quotas are so different.

Like I get poop is raining from the ceilings poop.

Well, we had a fan question from Ashley, Portugal, and Stephanie Shipmen Bahrani in this episode. When Pam decides she's going to be more assertive and she says and don't call me Pálmi, it kind of leads us to believe that she doesn't like that nickname. But in the next episode when Roy and Pam are talking at the diner, he calls her Pammi. Do you think that was a way of showing how Roy doesn't really know or pay much attention to Pam and her likes and dislikes?

Yeah, I think this is planting the seed for this nickname of Pammi that she's probably said, I don't love that nickname and he just is the guy who's like, oh, whatever, tickle tickle pammi. Yeah. And you're like, no, I actually mean it. Like, I really don't like being called Pálmi and he's like, okay for me.

Yeah. Right. And then you just give up. They are like ok ok fine. Yeah. I think it is just that thing where Roy just, he just kind of doesn't see her. He tried but they're just not meant to be together. Now Dwight and Michael have arrived incredibly early to the party.

There are catering vans and guys carrying and flowers. Dwight realizes pretty quickly that Michael is dressed like the servants. That's what he calls them. Yeah. And then they, of course, have to change clothes in the driveway. And once again, we see Dwight's belly. Someone track that. How many plants die and how many times do we see Dwight's belly?

Well, I love it that Michael says only good friends arrive early to a party. So the best way to become a good friend is to come early. Yeah, that's what you do. That's his strategy.

His strategy is to be the first ones there and the last ones keep and then you're going to love him. You know, that reminds me of Ellie Kemper.

You know, Ellie Kemper had a role to always be the last person at a party.

I know. And she is fun.

And you sort of adopted that with her.

Yeah, because she told me that once. And I was like, oh, I'm always the first one at a party. I like to come in the early part. And here's why I'm not going to come so early that you're just getting out of the shower, OK? And your house isn't ready. I like to get there early. I get my face time with the host, you know, get to have a sort of meaningful conversation because they're not juggling a lot of people yet.

And then I'm there as everyone arrives and I get to chit chat with everyone.

I feel overwhelmed when I enter a party and it's like two hours in, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like too much like instant party for me. I need to ease into a party. I need the population of the party to grow around me slowly. I think this is your metaphor for life, though, Jenna.

I feel like you need to ease into situations.

Yeah, well, I have a lot of social anxiety so that my way of navigating large social situations is to ezan. I don't like an instant crowd. I like the instant crowd.

I want to jump in. I want the music thumping.

I want everyone to have had like a little bit of a cocktail. The pressure's off on me. I can just show up and just be part of the flow.

You get there early.

I don't know, Jenna. You might get stuck in a conversation that goes on forever.

Until that happens. That happens. I'll take it. I'd rather do that than the other thing. And also, if you come early and you chat with the host, if I start to get overwhelmed, if my anxiety gets too high, I respect that I can leave.

You just fade out. But I was there. Everyone knows I was there. Right. And just the social sort of like obligation is completed.

Do I sound like fun? You are fun. You actually are a ton of fun and you're a ton of fun.

I it's just so fascinating to me. You and I have all of these core things that are so the same and then all of our social stuff is completely different.

It's so true. I always say Angela's house is like an episode of Three's Company. There's just people coming through the door randomly at all times.

It's true. I'm just like, come on in, I'm Aulbach, come down the driveway, whatever. Like your neighbor, your contractor. I don't know, literally anyone. Coming on over. Creed comes with his guitar. I know, and I'm like, make an appointment, make it appointment, show up on time, I need to ready myself for the social interaction.

OK, so now the whole gang is arriving to Poor Richard's and I have a little bit of Poor Richard's trivia. Jenna Oh. Is this about the real poor Richards? Because we had two people right in Lucas sundress and Andrew L said, is poor Richard's a real pub that people can go to today? And if so, where is it?

Yes, it is a real pub and it is in Scranton, Pennsylvania. And here's the thing that was kind of interesting, Gina, where we shot in Los Angeles was attached to a bowling alley, right? Yep. So is Poor Richard's. It is not a stand alone bar. It is the heart of a bowling alley. Yes. Yes, the bowling alley called Poor Richard's no, the bowling alley is its own thing. Here's the cool thing.

Poor Richard's actually does have a door that goes into the bar from the outside. But when you go into the bar, there's a whole section of it that's just opens out into the bowling alley.

Wow. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like at Pickwick. Yeah.

And right next to the door to go inside.

It's like an old timey looking wooden plaque thing that says Poor Richard's and I have a photo I took by it actually in twenty eighteen.

My husband and I were randomly driving through Pennsylvania and I was like, oh my God, it's a good hour and a half out of the way. But let's go to Scranton and we drove to Scranton. We drove all around and I said, let's go to Poor Richard's and grab a beer.

But it was closed. Oh no, I know. So I took all these pictures by the plaque. But years and years ago, twenty seventeen. I was there and I went inside. Poor Richard's with Brian Baumgartner. What was that like? It was such a blast. We just drank beer and hung out with the folks from Scranton who were all so nice. And I just love that town. Yeah, me, too. I've only been there by one time, but it was so great, it's so fun.

But yeah, I have some great photos from from Poor Richard's, but yeah, you guys families are bowling and then folks are in the bar just right there on the side. But I want to tell you guys, if you go to Poor Richard's, here's something that you would never think. They have so many different types of French fries. Tell me more. You can get regular French fries. You can get French fries with gravy, French fries with cheese, French fries with cheese and gravy, chili cheese fries, devil fries, which are smothered and hot or mild sauce with your choice of cheese pizza fries which have garlic parmesan cheese and fries with pizza, cheese and marinara bacon, cheddar ranch fries, spicy curly fries or sweet potato fries with salted caramel and marshmallow glaze.

Did you order any fries when you were there with Brian? I did, which once I cut the plane once I did realize that so many others there, like, what would you like? I was like, oh, I have some French fries, you know, because I was just trying to snack.

Had I known, I think I would have hit up those bacon, cheddar, French fries. Wow. I see a road trip in our future. Oh, good Lord, I would love that you and I driving through Scranton.

Oh, come on, we have to make that happen. We've got a list.

We've got a list. We've got a bucket list. You guys you can find out more about poor Richard. You can go to Poor Richard's pub dot net.

Well, the gang all sits around the table and they're having some drinks and ham, ask Kevin about his wedding plans. Yeah, and he's like, yeah, we set a date. Everyone's so excited to hear more. And then he's like, you know what? It's complicated.

And I'd really like some space.

I need some space of what? At seven minutes? Three seconds. There is a fantastic close up of Brian's tiny curled hair on either side of his head.

Oh, yes. The ladies in hair and makeup really must have hit hit that curling iron hard. Wait. And I have to show it to you. You have to see this is a what should we call this poofy Kevin here alert.

OK. Wow, that is I think he needs a haircut. Is what I see when I look at that. Yeah, I think so. I think maybe his hair had gotten long, but it's a big curl on either side of his head.

It kind of looks like he has gigantic ears underneath his hair that they're covering up. Maybe it looks like something's hiding in his hair right above it. Yeah, it does.

Well, listen, and Roy now arrives with his brother Kenny, and they're going to buy a round of drinks for everyone. And I have a lot of questions for you.

I also have some thoughts on Roy and Kenny, but I'll save those.

No. OK, do you want your questions now, then? Yeah, give me some questions. Fan question from Heather Hartline and Molly Pritikin. What was the reason behind Angela going to Poor Richard's with everyone? She didn't really interact with anyone, and it didn't really seem like she would want to go out to a bar with her co-workers. Was she lashing out because Dwight went to the other party? But before you answer. Fan question from Hannah Clinger, Megan Reid and Devin B.

. But is Angela crushing on Roy? Angela, why did you show up at Poor Richard's tonight? First of all, at seven minutes, twenty eight seconds here as part of that Angela Roy sort of thread that we've seen online, were they ever a thing where they going to be a thing? You can hear off camera when Roy offers to buy everyone a drink?

I say no thank you, Roy. Kind of like. Hmm, right. Yeah.

Here's what I think is the truth though guys. We like to think that Anthoula went there for Roy because it sounds spacy, but the deleted scenes tell the real story. Udu do tell. Yes, there was a runner between Angela and Oscar at Poor Richard's.

And I think two things were happening with her character, one, Dwight was busy that night and she felt like going out with everybody, but also it seems, at least in the deleted scenes, that her and Oscar mend the fences even more.

Oh, I don't know if you can tell by watching it, but Angela and Oscar actually aren't at the long table where everyone's sitting there at a little to top right next to it. Oh, and they have dinner together and they have a scene where Oscar has a huge plate of, like, wings in front of him. He's sort of like takes a bite and makes a gross face. And he goes, these wings are all fat and bone. And Angela's eating one carrot and she goes, oh, this place is disgusting.

And then the two of them look at each other and smile and Oscar kind of laughs. Oh, my gosh, I love it. Yeah, I think Angela is there because her and Oscar were meant to have these scenes together.

Hmm. I love that. Yeah, great question. Great answer. They don't play the game. They're just they're kind of hanging out. I know everybody would love a little Roy Angela controversy, but it never happened, guys.

Hmm. Well, let's wait until the next episode because I'm going to have more to say about it then. OK. All right. But for now, we had a quick fan catch from Luganda Club. When Roy walks into the bar, there is a sign for fat tire beer, which does not distribute to Pennsylvania. Oh, that's a really good catch. A little catch. And then because we mentioned him, I do want to give a shout out to Roy's brother, Kenny, who is played by Michael Patrick McGill.

He does such a good job. Yeah, he came to the art show. He was amazing. He's here in this episode again.

Just great. Just great.

And I really buy their relationship as brothers. I really believe it. He not only do they look like they could be related to me, but also I just feel like it it really fills in the picture of Roy and his family and his dynamic and why maybe Pam is is feeling like she's evolved past that.

Well, there's a lot of testosterone in that family. There is.

I mean, these are two guys that we're going to go out to get hammered because the Jets case, they didn't get enough money for them or something. Yeah.

They didn't sell for what they wanted them to sell for, I guess. So then I feel like Kenny's also just upset that he had to sell them in the first place. Yeah, that's my back story for Kenny. Yeah, it's both.

Mm hmm. Before we leave, Poor Richard's to go back to David Wallace's house. I absolutely love the story that Toby is now going to spend the whole night trying to get that stupid duck.

Yes. Well, the other thing to Angela is I remember how they spent all this time positioning the claw machine right there at the entrance, and they did that on purpose so that Paul wouldn't be in the background of everything. Exactly.

He had to be on set with our director, J.J. Abrams. He could be in the background. So it was a very strategic storyline to get him out of every scene.

And a very, very funny fix. Yes, because, yeah, I guess we should remind everybody that whoever wrote the episode, they shadow the director and they helped to produce their episode. And so it's hard to both be on camera and being part of those creative conversations over by the monitors. Yeah. All right. Well, let's head back over to David Wallace's house because we forgot to talk about Michael's offering of the potato salad. Yes, we forgot to talk about how he has brought this Tupperware full of potato salad that he has had in his car all day.

Well, I love this talking head because he whispers it. And whenever Steve is Michael, like whispers like, it just makes me laugh.

He's like, oh, my God, are they beaten down on it? Yeah, I know.

Well, Angela, we had a fan question from Jay's little who says, In light of Michael bringing potato salad to the party, what are your go to dishes to bring to parties? Do you have a go to dish when there's a potluck party?

Oh, yeah. I mean, I love to bring a side because usually if you're going to someone's party, I feel like they sort of do the main stuff and then you bring the sides. So there's a few that I love. We do this corn dip that I really like. My husband, like my husband has tons of really great tips. That shameless plug baking with Josh News.com. Tons of really great tips. He does that one. Jenna, you have the dip we brought over for Super Bowl last year.

Do you remember?

Yes. It's so good. It's like it's like a chicken dip.

It's so good. Mm hmm.

And then I love these Saroja brussel sprouts.

Hmmm, I could go on. No, I don't think I've ever had those there so good that he cooks the Brussels sprouts and then he pours over it. This marinade he makes with, like, soy. And I think it's got Saroja and honey, it's so good.

That sounds amazing as well. God, that sounds amazing.

OK, we'll bring that next time instead of the chicken jalapeno dip. Well, my son's hockey team would always have these like hockey season kickoff parties or holiday parties, and it would just be a big potluck situation. They would order pizzas. But then, you know, everyone brings something to them. And I have to go to what? One fried chicken from the grocery store. Oh, fried chicken, you can't go wrong with especially little kids. I was talking like adult party.

I have a whole different sides for kids stuff.

OK, well, we always like to bring fried chicken. A friend of mine actually tipped me off to this offering and it is always a huge hit and I completely stole her idea and we do it all the time also. It's really easy because you just pick it up warm from the grocery store on your way to the event. Yes. And no one cares that you didn't make it yourself because they're just happy eating it.

Yeah, but then my other thing that I would do for these potlucks is I do these shredded chicken. Many sliders.

Yes, I've had those. Yeah, I, I, I love them.

I actually put them in a cookbook, Angela. I'm in a cookbook I know I am in. I collaborated on this cookbook with King's Hawaiian and I put this recipe in the cookbook. And what you do is you put. Chicken breasts, and you marinate them on low in a crockpot, in root beer, that is the secret ingredient and you do that for several hours until they're all soft. Then you drain the root beer, you shred up the chicken, you put a bunch of barbecue sauce in, let that cook on low for a couple hours, and then you just bring the whole crock pot along with little slider buns and other accoutrements.

And you're like, here you go. It's sort of like a spin on like a pulled pork sandwich. But it's chicken. Yeah. Those are my go to my are great. Well, little asked. All right. Well should we move on.

Because now Dwight is at the buffet. I love a buffet. And he tells the woman, that is fine, lady, you love a buffet, if I say buffet, I should just pause and let you have your moment.

I'm always going to have a moment. Well, Dwight tells her that the piece of shrimp she's eating, that the line on the back of the shrimp is poop. Yeah. And you know what, what is poop? I looked it up. Oh, yeah, it is. So here's what I found out. If you're going to cook the shrimp, yeah, then you don't have to do it. They call it davening, but it's not a vain hope.

I think they call it deboning because no one wants to really think about the fact that we're just scraping poop off their backside. Yeah. So anyway, you should be pupate if you are not going to cook it like a shrimp cocktail, right. But if you're going to cook it, you can just leave the poop there because the cooking will kill the bacteria, at least according to this L.A. Times article that I read about it. OK, the end.

Do you like shrimp? I mean, wow, this is not that important of a question, but I'm really weighing my answer. I know, I know, I don't hate it, but I don't look for it. Right. I think the most shrimp I eat is maybe in a pad Thai.

What about you? I love shrimp, I love shrimp. You cannot have relatives in Louisiana and not like shrimp. We talked a lot about food is called cocktails, but we're still talking about food. Yeah, I'm hungry. I am too. I don't even know where we're at anymore. I don't either.

But I'm going to share something. It's personal. Lady. The other night I ate an entire box of cheddar bunnies snack mix. That's over twelve hundred calories is that cheddar bunnies like the cheddar bunnies we get for the kids? Yeah. Oh, late Yati were you. I had to have a bad day. Yeah.

It was just, you know, where it just feels like you're in a hole and you can't get out. And for whatever reason, my tunnel out of the hole was this box of cheddar crackers.

Before I knew it, my fingertips were scraping the bottom of the box. I couldn't believe I'd eat in the whole thing.

What were you watching? Were you watching something? Yeah, I was watching the show called Search Party. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. And I was riveted and before I knew it. I'd finished the all of them. And I'm going to say I felt better the next day. I don't know what the moral of the story is, but. How were your beams, were you OK? Yeah, I was expecting to have a lot more tummy trouble than I did, I was fine.

I was like, do you ever want to eat one again? I'm craving it and I'm not going to buy it, because if it's not in the house, I won't eat it. But I have this problem with the Trader Joe's cheese crackers a few years ago.

Where if I ate one, I ate the whole box and I managed to get over that and clearly my new trigger is the cheddar bunny snack mix it, it's got everything in it. It's got not just the cheddar bunnies that we love, but it's got like little pretzels and like, little cheese it things and. Yeah, I was so expecting the story to go differently, I thought you were going to tell it to me and say I came out on the other side, I am done with junk food.

I am only going to eat healthy snacks. But you're like I ate at all. I felt fine. Do it again.

So you were expecting, like, the story to go somewhere is what you're saying you didn't expect it that it would just hit a wall? Actually, Angela, I have been turning things around and we've been texting about it. I'm trying to do physical exercise three to four days a week and I've been eating really good. But I had this low moment with the box, the cheddar crackers. I don't know, sometimes you need to be OK, not being OK, right, lady?

Who are you talking to? I got nothing but love for you with all of that. I mean, do you remember that night where it was like 11 o'clock at night? And I was like, well, I guess someone needs a piece of chocolate pie. I guess that person's me. Everyone's gone to bed, not even going to put it on a plate. I'm going to stand inside the fridge and just have a fork and just carve at it.

I do remember because you sent me a video message of yourself eating the pie from the fridge. And I'll tell you what, it made me feel better. There you go.

There you go. OK, wait, where are we? Where we are. Is that Jan and Michael have arrived to the party and they're outside. And Jan wants Michael to sign some papers waiving his right to sue Dunder Mifflin in the event that their relationship. In his mind or in reality interferes with work, I have to tell you, I laughed so hard when she was digging in her trunk and he said, What are you looking for? You bring a dip.

Like somewhere in Michael's mind, you go to a party, you bring a dip, no matter what party you bring, a dip is like everybody must have brought a dip, right? Also, I cannot get enough of Jan and Michael, and I love this relationship, I love Melora Hardin so much.

She's so phenomenal. God, she's good.

Well, you know, she has this amazing talking head where she's like, hey, yeah, this is a calculated risk, you know, upside. I'm going to fall deeply in love and have babies and normalcy. No more self-loathing. Downside.

She collapses in on herself like a dying star. Right. So in the deleted scenes, she has a much longer talking head.

They really trim this down and lady, she over shares so much like it's it's so uncomfortable to watch.

What does she say? I mean, she she talks about past relationships. She was like, well, I guess one good thing is I orgasm really easily, so. Oh my God, she really overshare.

And I was like, oh my God, I see why they they deleted it. But it really, really does show you where Jane is that her mental space. Well, as soon as he walks in the door with Jan, they run into David Wallace, they've barely introduced themselves and. He says, Jan and I are lovers. He doesn't say Jan and I are dating, first of all, he doesn't need to say that. He doesn't need to clarify their relationship.

But he's so excited and he always refers to them as lovers.

And you guys, I don't know if you guys have ever had people like this in your life, but I know a couple.

Who, when they talk about each other, they refer to each other as their lover. And it makes me so uncomfortable every time, every time I remember when they got engaged, we were like, oh, tell us your engagement story.

And they were like, well, we said to each other, you know what? You are my lover. You are my friend.

It's always they always bring it up.

Is it me and Lee? And why are you saying you don't like it, that I say Billy and Billy and I refer to one another as lovers, I get I want to do it now. Oh, the next time I go to a party, I'm going to introduce Lee and I love her. You know what? My Lee show up really early when there's no one else to buffer your awkward conversation and no one's had a drink yet and be like my lover and I are early and my lover and I brought cheese.

It's where we brought some bunny Sackman.

My lover told me not to eat so many in the car and I said, Love RNLI.

I can't wait to do this bit at my next party. Oh, it makes me so uncomfortable. So now we're the party is going at David Wallace's house and we just have what is possibly one of the most awkward conversations at a party.

Yeah.

Nine minutes. Fifty two seconds. Michael tries to hold Jan's hand. He's already, you know, as we said, Caulder, his lover. Then he tries to hold her hand. She won't hold his hand. Then he blows in her face. Then he asks for an appetizer, wants to know if they have any bagels. It's. Yeah, and Dwight asked for the square footage of the house. Then Michael's like, that's inappropriate. How much does this house cost?

And then does it, Jim, like do like a spit take with his drink. Let me tell you something. I was having a cup of tea while I was watching this episode and I happened to be taking a sip right at this moment. And Jim and I simultaneously spit into our cups from that line that I was that line made me laugh out loud.

I know it's so awkward. And it sends Dwight now on this crazy journey of checking out every nook and cranny of their house.

Yes. And this is also where Karen is going to start her little prank on Jim. She says to Jim, Do you see that guy over there? Because I just think you should know we used to date and it didn't end well. And Jim is like, oh, I didn't like this prank.

I didn't like the storyline. Tell me more. Well, I mean. I think it's passive aggressive, I think Karen is maybe still a little stung by the fact that Jim dated Pam and the way she found out about it. And I feel like this is her kind of playful way to make light of it, although it's not something that she feels light about because they've had all these late night talks, but it's her sort of playful way of, I don't know, kind of jabbing him about it.

Yeah. And it feels a little sad and a little desperate to me.

Karen Oh, wow. You said it. I said it. Well, should we talk about the scene with the Scotch? Oh, God, it is so good.

There's wonderful moments in the deleted scenes, too. Oh, my God. Well, I have to say, when Steve takes a sip of this Scotch, which David tells us was gifted to him by Lee Iacocca. Steve starts coughing and it is some of the best liquor coughing I've ever seen in a performance.

It was so real and it's so amazing, too, because there's a great moment in the bloopers where he's like over the gums and through the lips.

Like he is not understanding the magnitude of a 20 year old scotch given by this amazing man who he thinks discovered the DeLorean.

Yes, all of it is wrong, all of it is wrong. We had a few people write in about that joke and they were like, I don't understand the joke about Lee Iacocca and the DeLorean. And this is just a matter of Michael. He's just mixing up his automobile executives.

Yes. This is classic Michael, where he gets one part right and then the rest wrong. Yes.

So for anyone who doesn't know, Lee Iacocca was best known for developing the Ford Mustang and the Pinto cars. He worked for Ford, but then he went on to work at Chrysler and he was just this huge automobile executive legend. But here is a fun fact. Oi. Lee Iacocca wrote his autobiography with another writer, William Novac.

Hopefully a grandfather. Yeah. Wait, yeah, wait, yep, wait, B.J. Novak's dad, yep, was the ghostwriter for Lee Iacocca's autobiography. Yeah. Am I getting this right?

You are B.J. Novak's father, William Novak, was a ghostwriter, but he was also a writer. Yeah. And he wrote this book with Lee Iacocca.

I, I don't want to tell B.J. stories for B.J., but I just want everyone to know that his childhood was fascinating and he had just legendary people who worked with his father, who then B.J. had like moments with as a child, as a child. But here's the thing. What's so cool about B.J. Stories is that he's a kid meeting legends of different industries. And it just makes me think about the time that my husband, Lee, was making a movie with Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day.

And Billie Joe would come over to our house and rehearse with Lee for this movie. And my son, who was a big Green Day fan and who is a drummer himself, like hang out with Billie Joe Armstrong and Billie Joe would like show him riffs on the drums and stuff like that. But to my son, he was just like this cool guy named Billy who was coming over. But one day, like, when he's older, I'm going to be like, do you know who was in our house teaching you that whole thing on the high hat like did that was do you know who, like, tuned your bass drum for you that one time?

Those Billie Joe Armstrong.

Yeah, it's going to be so cool. I am there, but I'm there with the office because my kids now love the office. They love it and they want to watch every episode with me. They'll say, you know, what episode are you guys doing for office ladies this week? Can we watch with you?

And half the time they've seen the episode and it's their second or third viewing of it.

And Isabel, there's a photo in our kitchen. Jenna, you know how I have that? I have like a big bulletin board with a bunch of photos on it. And I have a photo of you and I and Isabel on a swing set, and I'm holding her, and it's from a company picnic.

Yeah, she had come to I remember that day at lunch, right? Yeah, so the other morning is like, Mom. That's company picnic, I was on set for a company picnic. I was like, baby, you were on set every week.

I just have a picture. Every time she was like, oh, my gosh.

But it's it's that moment. It's all becoming really real for her. Yeah, well, that was BJ's life. He had, you know, all these crazy people, but he was just like, oh, you know, my dad's friendly. Came over to write a book about cars. Lee Iacocca, just Lee Iacocca. Crazy big, nice guy. Nice fella. Well, lady, we did have a great callback to a character in this scene.

While they're in the house, we see Dan Gore, who was the regional manager for the Buffalo branch. Yeah. Dwight calls him an idiot for not knowing Battlestar Galactica. So I thought that was a nice little callback to season two. And up next, we are going to get into a pretty rowdy drinking game over at Poor Richard's.

Before we do that, we're going to take a little break. All right. Well, that sounds sounds real good. All right. OK.

All right, guys, we are back and we are about to start a drinking game called let me just say we had a number of questions about what it's called. Tracy Williams, Alex Taylor, Nicole Sabino, Bethany Darvish and Samantha Skelley. All said no one is the drinking game everyone plays at. Poor Richard's a real game. Number two, is it called up a chickens or up Jenkins? And number three, where did the writers get the idea from?

First of all, yes, this is a real game. It is called Up Jenkins, Down Jenkins. And I will tell you how Paul found out about it. So Paul's brother Warren went to Kenyon College in Gambier, Ohio, and I was in New York with him and we were hanging out with his friends from college. Martin Nellie, this is a game they played in college. We played it all night at a little dive bar in Manhattan.

Paul knew about this game from Warren and he incorporated it into the script.

OK, so how exactly do you play OK now? According to Warren Martin Aneli from Kenyon College, this is how you play it. There are two teams on opposing sides of a table. You grab a quarter and you pass it underneath as slightly as possible. Right. You're passing the quarter under the table to your teammates. And at any time, the opposing team on the other side of the table can say, one, two, three, up Jenkins.

And at that point, every single person has to put their elbows on the table and clench their hands under fists to hide whoever has the quarter.

Right. OK, and then the opposing team says, one, two, three, down. Jenkins And at that point, you slam your hands down to the table. Everyone at the same time, you try to do it at the same time to mask the sound of that quarter hitting the table.

And then the opposing team goes down the line and touches every single hand they think doesn't have it, leaving the hand that does have it. Now, OK, do we know why it's called up Jenkins' down Jenkins, did someone named Jenkins invent it?

We don't know why and when I looked it up on the Internet, a few things came up. First of all, Jenkins is a very Welsh name. And apparently there is a version of this in Wales and it's called Tippit.

Oh, I don't know. It is also played in Iraq and it's called Imbibes, if I'm saying that correctly. Apparently it's been documented that a version of this game was played by the Native Americans and it was called Hand Game and it's played throughout America. There's several different names. It has been referred to as up. Chickens in Midwestern states are sometimes it's just called Jenkins. Well, there you have it, folks. I'm sure there's more information out there about Jenkins down Jenkins.

And if you guys have any, let us know. Joe, do you remember on set me teaching everyone how to play? Yes, I do.

I do. You gave a little tutorial and I was so bombed that once again and a little Martin does not participate. I know you are our teacher, but you are not a participant.

I know. Well, in the episode, Pam is the one who ends up having the quarter under her hand and Roy is doing the guessing and he kind of looks at her and he's like, you know, not here to Stanley revealing that Pam has it. And then he says, like, I can just read you like a book. You can't keep anything from me.

Oh. And Pam's like, oh, but I can. And I did.

She just feels, I think, super guilty. She's on this track in this episode where she's trying to be more assertive. Remember, she went up to the bar and the bartender gave her the wrong drinks. Yeah. And she mustered up the courage to say, I'm sorry, one of these is supposed to be a light.

And I really do think she meant it. And we'll get there when she's like, you know, I want to have a real chance. And she sees Roy trying and she wants to try. And if if this is going to work, then she wants all the cards on the table. Yeah.

And part of this sort of being empowered to speak her mind is all just part of that.

Well, now there's this little runner that happens at the bar that I love. It's so small, but it's these moments that just make the show for me where all of these kids walk in and they are introducing themselves to Creed.

He says he knows every single one of them, all of them. And then he's just got this quick little talking head where he's like, oh, yeah, I run a small fake ID company out of my car using a laminating machine that I swiped from the sheriff's station. That's it, that's it how I know them. Why was I at the sheriff's station? How long have I been doing this business? It's clearly illegal.

Well, listen, should we go back to David Wallace's house lady? Oh, yeah.

Because things are going off the rails. Oh, my God. It's amazing. Well, Karen is continuing her prank on Jim, and they've had a conversation with a couple and she's like, oh, my gosh, did you see the way that woman was just staring daggers at me? I think it's because I dated her husband for a while while they were separated. Yeah. So she's keeping her joke going. Yeah. Dwight is still inspecting the house.

He's testing the smoke detector, the banister.

I gotta tell you, Dwight, in this episode really reminds me a lot of a friend of mine who is a contractor, who's a comedian and also a contractor, which is a very funny combination. His name is Pete only. He's been in a ton of movies and things. He's very funny. But he would walk through my house and he would like bang on a wall and he'd be like, yeah, this can go like what I thought papillary be like, you can lose this.

Like it's something else I like. Yeah. You don't need that. Like beat what is left of my house. Well, this reminds me a little bit of my dad, because my dad is a builder, you know, and not professionally, he's an engineer, but he builds now displays for the children's museum in St. Louis, this place called the Magic House. Now, your dad is amazingly talented.

He's amazingly talented. And by the way, can I say something about my dad? That's sort of amazing.

So my sister is a schoolteacher and with the pandemic, their school opened. So they are doing in-person learning. And in order to make the space safer for the kids, especially the real little ones who have a hard time keeping their masks on, like the preschool age, my dad built 30 Plexiglas screens for the preschool classes so that they could separate all the kids by these little amazing screens.

He just did that in his free time and delivered them all up to the school. He's amazing. That is amazing.

I know my sister Janet listens to our podcast and her and the other teachers made little screens using Legos and plexiglass. They could have used your dad. He was so excited.

He had a whole template for it. He had a whole little like assembly line he created. But I could kind of see my dad like my dad because, you know, later in the episode, Dwight's like this was a great party. He had a fantastic time. Like, I think my dad's favorite time at a party would be if he could walk around and just, like, structurally examine a home.

Yeah, he doesn't need small talk. He just needs a crawlspace and a flashlight. Yeah.

And he might fix something if you've got like a a wonky doorknob that'll be fixed when he leaves.

I love that. Well, Michael is very impressed by the vanilla candles.

What a weird like foreshadow, right, for Jan's candle business.

I know he really he really wants David Wallace to go to sandals with them. He's like, you would not believe how low this lady can go in the limo. Jan is horrified.

She's like, excuse us. And she pulls him into the bathroom and then she starts. Just attacking him, attacking him like she's like, throw me up against the wall right here, take me right here.

And he's like, Jan, what do you stop getting undressed? This is inappropriate. And she goes, Oh, I'm inappropriate. Get out of my way. She is I mean, the woman is unhinged. It's so incredible because it really it's like she's some sort of like a masochist or something, right? Like she just there's something in the humiliation that turns her on. Listen, she said this could go two ways. One is where she collapses into herself like a dying star.

It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. She is just going to do that.

Well, now we come up on one of my favorite scenes at the party that Dwight wanting the rocking chair. Yes. We had a fan question from Meghan Lou Sharone who said, I read that David Wallace's son is played by Greg Daniels son, Owen Daniels. That is correct. That is true.

It was so fun to have him on set. And, you know, it's just it's so amazing now, Jenna, to see these kids as they're older. Talk about feeling old. Oh, my gosh. I was like, yes, he is like a young man now, you know, it's crazy. I know, I know the scene is just so good and we had a fan catch from Nora, a Elijah Brown and Ashley Dodd who said this in this episode, When Dwight is in David Wallace's son's room and he's sitting in the rocking chair, he asked the kid where it's from and says he wants one in the final season.

We can clearly see that Dwight got the same rocking chair. Get out.

They must have saved it and put it at Schrute Farms.

That's such a great tiny detail to catch. I am very impressed. I love that. That's amazing. Well, then David Wallace asked Jim if he wants to go shoot hoops outback, well, while they're playing basketball, they hear like a clamoring noise and they look up and there's Dwight on the flippin roof and he's like, busted up part of the chimney.

Yes, we got mail about this, Angela, Stephanie, Tea, Phoebe, Violet, F ABM and Iris Bell all wrote in to say, Is rain really climbing on the roof when Dwight is inspecting the chimney? How did rain get on the roof? Because in previous podcast, you mentioned that you guys had to write a crane to get on the roof. So how did this work?

Oh, good question. I didn't even think about that. But it looks like he's really up there. He's really up there.

But the chimney is fake. Oh, here is what Kento Pedia told me. They had to build a chimney and rig it onto the roof of the house because where those guys were playing basketball, if you looked up at the roof, there was no chimney there. So that is a fake chimney. Rain had to climb onto the roof using a ladder. He was assisted by a stunt coordinator. And after he got on the roof, the stunt coordinator attached a little safety line to Rheins waist fed it through his pant leg so that in the event that he slipped, he wouldn't fall off the roof.

So they had him like sort of like chained to the roof.

He wouldn't fall off the roof, but he would get a horrendous wedgie.

Yes. Yes. He'd get a wedge act to end all wedges. I believe they built a fake chimney. Wow. That is so wild. Well, and then back inside the party, Angela is a little couplet that I just love and so did a lot of other people.

I bet it happens at sixteen minutes. Forty one seconds. Is that hi, Jan, not too good, hey, Jan, not too good. Yeah. Well, a lot of wind call Rose DOWL, Julia Tyson and Hanak all wrote in saying it was one of their favorite moments and they love how there's this runner of Channe not responding correctly to the greeting that someone has given her.

Yes, because we saw this in the initiation. When Pam says hi and Jen goes, I'm great.

Yes, exactly. Hmm. Amazing.

Well, Jenna, I love that couplet of dialogue, but I also loved Michael's talking head. I thought Paul, as the writer, knocked this out of the park, because this is really how people talk, how they process information. Michael is saying, wow, you know, she really likes my potato salad. And I, I just bought it at the store.

I wish I could make a potato salad like that. I mean, I guess it's really simple. It's potatoes and mayonnaise. There is something very wrong with you on it.

Does this prove it? But I feel like that's real life. I feel like that's how you you're talking about something like, oh yeah. There was such a, you know, a lovely breeze out today and I don't think we can be married anymore.

You're like, what? Well, let me tell you, I was completely distracted during this talking head, Angela. Behind Steve's shoulder. Sitting at what looks like a vanity, yeah. Did you see it looks like it is a woman with really, really, really long blond hair. Or something, it looks like something out of like the ring. Remember that horror movie, The Ring? Yeah, we saw it with, like, blond hair coming over her face or it's the back of her head.

I was like, what? Who is oh, is that a person? Is it a wig on a stand? What is the hairy object over his shoulder? And I could never figure it out. No, I didn't catch it at all. I think I was so, like, riveted on Steve, but now I need to see it.

Well, remember when we couldn't figure out what the weird, fluffy thing was by Phyllis's desk and we figured out that it was a feather duster, thanks to Cody, Cody knew immediately.

Well, I don't know if we need to get Cody on this, but what is over Michael's shoulder during this talking head? OK, it's the one.

Tell me it's around sixteen minutes, 50 seconds.

If anyone knows Cody, we're going to move on. But could you take a look at it and weigh in? Sixteen minutes. 50 seconds.

Well, while she's doing that, I feel like we should go back to Poor Richard's Angela because some shoptalk is about to go down so much Otaki and so quickly out of nowhere.

Yeah, shall we talk about it? Yeah, I mean, Pam and Roy are at the bar. Looks like it's been a pretty successful night. It definitely seems like Roy has had a few cocktails. You see, he's a little tipsy and Pam says she wants to make a fresh start with him. No secrets. He says me too. And then she says, a month before their wedding at the casino, I. Her and Jim kissed, she says, I kissed Jim.

And she said he had, you know, told her his feelings and then Roy's like, wait, Jim came on to you? And she's like, listen, and he's like, I am listening. That's the problem. And he just goes from zero to 60.

He throws a beer bottle or something at that mirror and it shatters. Yes.

Yes. Well, I ask Kent about that because. I remember that moment and I remember something happened there that wasn't supposed to happen. I was like, Kent, was that mirror meant to break? Because when I was watching the scene, I was like, what was the mishap with that mirror? So he said the glass mirror was a prop sign. It was rigged with safety glass and Roy was meant to hit it with his beer bottle and that all the bottles that Roy and Kenny are throwing are all made of candy glass.

But he checked the production report and guess what it said. Lot of fun. He said that in one of the tapes I got hit in the face with some of the candy glass when it, like, sprayed off of the mirror. So that was my memory. It was like something happened with that mirror. But he said the production report said that I was fine and able to finish the day. So there you go. I kind of do remember, like a little bit of a hullabaloo because some stuff flew in your face, like I enjoyed my memory.

Well, and then, I mean, Pam is like this is over and he's like, it is over, you know? And he just starts wailing stuff at the wall. And out of nowhere, I mean, where the hell is Kini been? He just shows up and starts breaking shit. Yeah.

Well, also, I don't know if you noticed at 18 minutes, 51 seconds, there is someone else in the scene and a number of people wrote in pointing it out.

Kevin Yes.

Kevin, does he have his hands, like clenched fists, like he's ready to go just in case?

Yes. Kimberly Willis, Heather are Shannon are Corey Hayley and Lauren Greenly. All said that when Roy starts the fight at the bar and he's yelling and throwing the glass in the lower left corner of the screen, you can see Kevin standing there, this clenched ready to defend Pam if Roy comes at her. It was such a sweet moment during a tough scene. Was this scripted? No, it was not in the script, Brian, just improvise that, huh?

I guess so. He did. It was a really great choice. Yeah, yeah, well, he told Jim before he's got his back, but let's hope it doesn't come to that.

So that's that's, I think, Kevin being there for Pam and Brian. Just that was part of his story that he had written for his character.

Well, then we also got a really touching letter, Angela, from Paula Marquez, who says, I am grateful for that scene with Roy going violent at Poor Richard's and Pam's reaction to it, many girls, me included, still believe that their partners violent reactions are their own fault and that they must apologize for whatever triggered them that way. The first time I watched this episode and I saw Pam walking away from Roy stating that they were over was very remarkable for me.

But it didn't make much sense to me at first. I still thought that she had to calm him down, maybe apologize and work on their relationship. But after a while, I realized that it wasn't her responsibility and she was so right to stand up for herself and walk away from him. And and I just want to say that it really means so much to me when. Women, young women especially find strength through Pam's story. Yeah, on this show, and I feel like it is a way that her story is impactful and it's just really meaningful to me in being the person who got to play Pam.

I love that.

And I'm so glad that that scene was able to resonate with her. Well, John, I don't know if you caught, but there is a song playing under the whole scene while Pam and Roy are talking. And then it kind of crescendos as Roy and Kenny start smashing things.

Yes, it is. Carry on my wayward son by Kansas, which I thought was an interesting choice. Yes, right. Well, the party has also ended.

Over at David Wallis's and Michael and Jan are driving home and all this car ride over, this is maybe one of my favorite scenes that I didn't know was a favorite scene until I watched it for this watch.

I just can't get enough of Michael and Jan. There's such a hot mess and they're so fun to watch. And Miller is so good. You know, Jan is like, I feel sick. I just feel sick.

And he's like, you should eat the potato salad. Did you? You can't let that go. She's like, no, I just think it was a mistake to take our relationship public. It was so much more exciting when it was a secret. Michael is so hurt.

And Michael's like, I want it all, John. I want the house and the kids and the picket fences and the ketchup fights and the tickling and the giggling. I know, and then this is when Morris performance is one of my favorite things.

She's like, you know what, I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. I'm just tired. I didn't mean it, Michael. She's so good. She's so good.

She's so good. And then, of course. Out of nowhere, Dwights, like you guys don't break up, you're so good together. I did not remember that he was going to pop up then to that scene. It was great. And you know what? They don't break up. Michael frames his love contract that's in a deleted scene.

You don't see you know, he he thinks of it as a love contract. He really does any frames that he's so proud of it.

It's just a letter to H.R.. That's all it is. Well, the episode ends with a pretty big cliffhanger. Yeah, and we don't do a ton of cliffhangers on this show, but this is one Roy is sitting outside in the parking lot of Poor Richard's.

Kenny comes out. He explains that he paid off the bar with the jet ski money so they won't call the cops. And then Roy says, I'm going to kill Jim Halpert. Oh. My oh, my God, yeah, this is kind of big for our our show because we never have a button like this. No, no. And we'll get to it next week, but boy. How we open next week? Yeah, well, we had a fan catch here in the soul scene in the parking lot, Max Better Veysel Burg said We see a car parked outside of Poor Richard's with the license plate.

See H.T. eight six three five. We have seen this license plate elsewhere, but it's always associated with Meredith's van. And Creed's Cadillac has the same license plate in the episode, gossip, what is the story with this license plate?

Oh, what a good catch. You guys are so good. Clearly, it's a license plate we had cleared and we just kept putting it on different cars, am I right?

Yes. They had a few of these Pennsylvania license plates. And, you know, if we had a scene where a couple characters had to be walking down the street, we would park a couple of cars and just slap these approved license plates on them.

And there weren't a ton of them. And so they just went on whatever car was visible and they were not counting on Max. Better to keep track. They were not. But he did. Well, guys, that was cocktail's.

We will be back next week with the negotiation and special guest David Denman.

Oh, David Deadman's going to be there. Angela Martin might be titillated. Oh, she is.

She is. But guys, before we go, Kotey is weighing in on that background check at 16 minutes, 50 seconds. And she says it literally looks like a person with a yellow blanket over them. It is so weird.

Wait, can we get Connie, can you can you can you show it to us? What is that? That's so weird, right? It's super creepy. Creep. David Wallace's house is haunted. All right.

That is the biggest takeaway from today's episode, everyone.

But listen, we'll put it all up on this latest pod. You can decide who this creeper is in the background of Michael's talking head. All right, guys, we hope you have a great week and we'll see you next week. Love you. Bye. Love ya. Thank you for listening to office ladies Office Ladies is produced by Airball Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey. Our producer is Cody Fisher, our sound engineer is Sam Kiffer, and our associate producer is Ainsley Boubakeur.

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