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I'm a big skeptic myself, and we're going to be hearing from a critic a little later on who says this isn't true at all.

But first, we were very interested, as I said, and what happened at a session when James met with 500 strangers, many like yourself, who said they wanted to make contact with their departed loved ones. Sometimes he misses.

Other times he's right on target. I want to talk to him about that.

I'm also feeling someone who died in a motorcycle crash, and I feel it's a young man. It makes sense, please, some sort of sister here. Is it your brother, your husband died, the motorcycle crash. God, he gives you a lots of love that he appears here and you had to wear his earring. Now I have it right here. Thank you. Do you ever wear glasses? Yes, I'm pretty sure these glasses yet. You still have my glasses.

Where am I? Is there someone who has a little thing in their pocket book a bag of their child? I was like a girl that died. Makes sense to someone, please. Yes. Yes. She said to me, my mother, I get very emotional here with her. My mother wanted a portrait done of me to understand. Her sister painted a portrait of her with wings.

OK, someone made a rose bush a rose garden, wanted to put rose bushes, rose bushes, whose famous I just made a garden for her in the backyard and do her church.

He said, I go to church with her, you know, and he said to me, you had an idea that he was going to pass over. You do it. Oh, yeah.

I feel with him. It wasn't expected either with his passing. Was his cancer or some sort of cancer? Yeah, I feel he's talking about plans for a house. I understand that. And did you have, like, a blueprint or something where the paper is being drawn up? And he said, you like the windows or you had something particular about the windows. This new house didn't stand this. Did you write him a letter after he died?

Please say yes or no.

Yes. OK, I'm sorry. Was there a picture you had done of him after he died yesterday to understand something that you had the picture that you read that he loves the picture that you have of him? Well, James Van Praagh says he can see the dead. He says that he can talk to them, that he can hear their thoughts, and he even feels their emotion in reading the book you describe in first grade your first experience with was it Mrs.

Winders? Wine, like wine, like wine, like in the first grade when you first I knew something.

What happened was she came in the room crying or something. I said, your son is going to be OK. He was in a car accident. He just broke his leg, but he'll be all right. And this was in a Catholic school, Catholic school, first grade. And later the principal came in and she said, Can I speak with you, please? The teacher brought the teacher out and indeed this had happened. Then she said to me afterwards, would you please stay after school?

I need to talk to you. And you said everything you said is true. And I started crying and she said, that's OK. She started crying because you thought you'd caused it to have the accident.

And she said, no, God gives certain people gifts, these things and you're blessed with this. It'll you'll help people one day with it.

Tell me what you, in your opinion, believe to be true about the dead. First of all, you believe there's no such thing as death, correct? That it's just a transition, right.

A transition because we're all energy and energy cannot die. We all energy. Energy means molecules which move at a certain rate of speed and at times. But the spirit body lives with the physical body and vibrates at a very, very quick rate. At the time of death. We leave our bodies and go to that spirit world and that's what happens. And when they come back to this world to speak with us and communicate, they slow down their vibration to a level that a medium is sensitive, like myself, is able to pick up his feelings and thoughts if they do indeed come back.

Right. And you just say they have to lower their frequency to come back. That's right. Why don't they just say, my name is Jay So-and-so?

It would be a lot easier for me if they would say that. I'll tell you.

Yeah. And I lived on such and such a street and my mother was Robin so and so and that was it, because there are many factors involved because of the atmosphere, the frequency conditions, how quickly they vibrate.

Sometimes it's hard for them to lower themselves and to actually feed the medium, the mind, the medium thoughts that that they can understand. Also, the media might not be picking up correctly. I might not know how to interpret this stuff. I hear bits and pieces of things. So it's so fast. It's so quick. Just bits and pieces really, really fast. Sometimes I come through with really strong details and other times I don't know what the heck they're talking about.

OK, could they just say my name is Berzerk, for example? Are they have they have. Sure they have. And it depends on how disfigurements communicate. Some more visual, some auditory, some more to communicate more, speak more.

So one of the people whose work with Jane, Cindy Cox, who lost her 16 year old daughter Monica when TWA Flight 800 exploded off of Long Island in 1996. And Cindy, were you at the session? Yes, OK.

Was Monica was one of the French club students from Montoursville, Pennsylvania. Beautiful. On the inside it out is the best way to describe her. Caring, compassionate. And she always had a smile on her face. My reaction to hearing the news about it being Flight 800 was disbelief. And then you fantasize.

Monica learned how to swim by the age of one. She's going to be in the water. She's treading water. They're going to find her. And you want to hang onto that as long as possible.

We had gotten positive identification on Monica very early on, and that pretty much puts a dead end to your denial in a real hurry. Monica was only 16. She didn't expect her life to end. Well, we arranged for Cindy to meet with James, we gave James, I swear to you, no information about her, not even her name. We did not tell him who had died. Not everything he says was right on the money. But here are a few of the things that Cindy says made her believe her.

Good, I'm picking up someone here is being a little bit emotional when they come in and I feel a child of yours quite interesting because I feel like a child. This is a sign that passed over a daughter, Pasto. This is a very excitable person who speaks and she's like getting very, very excited and very like, oh my gosh, mom, mom, it's me, it's me. This girl is showing me you were at school talking to people.

I would see teachers here. I see them as some kind of a ceremony. Just about a ceremony, please. Was there a tree or something planted? Please get a name. Yes.

You understand? Oh, I love the tree. She said I love the tree. She loves animals, by the way. Yes. I think she might have had a pet at the home and it was a dog or something. Yes, I'm just kidding. Accident here I go over and over again with an accent of some type and I feel like it involves something bigger. Big, big thing. Yes. And I don't know what it means, but it's a big thing.

Yes. Now, I don't know if there was something. But she have around the also. Because he showed me water. Yes, he keeps defense trying to stay alive. Did you fall all? Yes. Was this a very high place? Yes. She pushed Rose down, goes down. She goes down like this. I must feel something awful. Somewhat.

Yeah, but you know that a balloon we're letting of balloons, please. Yes, I understand about the balloons. Yes. And she sees you at night and you've had a dream. She said you've had dreams of me. Mom, mom, in my dreams. I mean the dreams issues. You were a skeptic before.

I can't say totally skeptical, but you do have your doubts now. May I ask you this? And this is true, I think of everybody who's lost a loved one.

And you can you know, so I want to say.

But is there a part of you that wants to believe definitely. You go wanting you want the connection to hear something? Yeah. So doesn't that somewhat color what you hear? I don't think so.

How do you not believe her? And now you believe like this man talk to you. I can't say that.

I totally didn't believe because my daughter and I had a very strong connection.

And when you lose somebody close, a lot of people say, hey, you know, I'm looking for signs. And you wonder, I joked with my sister. The lights in my room flickered and she says, hey, your lamp is broken. I said, no, that's Monica. And during the reading that did come through. But there was nobody there but my sister and I. You want to look for those little connections for them to say, hey, you know, I'm still around, I'm still looking in on you, OK?

This is what I don't understand. And what makes a skeptic out of me, I think I kind of get it because it's like sometimes you all do this yourselves. Some people can walk in the room. You have a visceral reaction to them, you know, automatically stay away from this person. You get evil vibrations.

Yes, I've had that feeling a couple of times. So you get that and then other times you don't sense that you don't get it because some things are stronger than others. So is that what you're saying to us? Right.

Because my question then is when you're sitting there and you having this session with this mother who's lost her child, why doesn't it just come through clear it was flight 800, right?

I wish I could, but a lot of things it's hard to get things and details like that. Something's come through so detailed and it depends a lot on the spirit who's communicating and how they might not know how to communicate. The person receiving the information might not know how to receive it, how to be open to it.

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It's every day. Yeah, some days are better than others. But I've got you know, if you saw a son who is surviving, who is still very young, very impressionable, does this make it better for you somehow?

Oh, my son went ballistic. Oh, my God, Mom. He says Monica says she loves and misses me. He believes in this. He tells me of dreams. I have dreams of her.

And there are things I can't explain in that detail to come through, speak for themselves. I mean, I don't know how I do this stuff, but details come through. I can't explain which. It's indescribable. Certain details. OK, yeah.

You know, and I would have much appreciated if she had just said TWA 800. I really didn't need to sit there and listen to him describing a fall off of something as high as a mountain or the tumbling or because you get a sensation.

I get a sense sometimes you get a sensation, sometimes you get a clear picture depending on how the spirit wants communicate.

Yeah, I say, OK, I got a feeling this time and spirits don't always communicate the same.

And sometimes spirit don't come through who you want to speak to. Someone else will show up because if they don't what they want to come through, they want this. Just because you don't want to speak with them doesn't mean they'll show up. It could be someone else. OK, that's another thing I always wondered about.

This is what I really think. If you were spirit gone on to whatever the next world the next level is, you sure the hell don't have to do what you say?

That's right. You know, I'm saying you can kind of come and go with your own free will. You got it.

You got to say a spirit wants to show up because the bonds of love continue, OK? The bonds of love they never forget. You see, the love that they have lives on. And that's the important thing to remember. Love never dies. Love continues.

OK, this is Diana, who we met after she attended a recent session with James. Her husband, James, died of a heart attack.

James was 53 when he died. And he was a very good person, a great personality, lots of fun, loved life, loved living life, loved it to the fullest. His favorite saying was pedal to the metal, that that's how he lived his life and he went that way.

Diane had never met this James before she attended his lecture. Why'd you go? Why'd you go? Because my friend said that I had to go because she had a feeling that he would speak to my James and that James would speak to me.

She calls herself a skeptic with an open mind, but she left her session with this James Van Praagh, convinced that he made contact with her dead husband again.

Sometimes James was right and sometimes James was wrong.

This is a man here who he didn't really care about his health a great deal. I also I'm being told by him that his blood sugar wasn't always correct. I mean, I don't know, diabetes or blood does the blood sugar problem instead of that. I also told them the kidney problem at one point instead of a kidney, kidney troubles or kidney problems, he said you had an idea that he was going to pass over. You do it. Oh, you knew it before it happened.

He said he kind of had a premonition or was in a dream or something, but it was a dream. Yeah. Yeah, OK. He told me you had this premonition. Yeah. He's with you very, very much. You want to redo the house a little bit before the house. He said, you're spending my money redoing.

It makes sense. So you say to her that he's with her, but aren't all the dead loved ones with us? You bet they are. OK, so what about that? Made a believer out of you? Basically, he told me that Jim was saying that he sees me at church. I'm not Catholic, but I go to Mass for him every Sunday.

He says he's with you. Started going to church after. Exactly. To his mass at his church.

And he says, I see you light the candles for me, which I do. And he sees me sitting in his chair. Now he says, I see you using my reading glasses, which I do. There are specific things pretty good.

Yeah, but you know, the reading glasses, we are at the age where if you're going to read, you got some glasses. I got my own. I got my own.

But he said specifically, you use your house, your specific chair.

And I read with his specific glasses. And he also said that he kept asking me if I knew Appal Paul. And I said, no, I don't know Paul. He doesn't know Paul. Don't have a clue. Sunday, which was the day after he read I went to Mass again and I'm sitting there not really paying attention. And I hear the priest saying, I'm going to read from the letter of Paul. And the letter of Paul was about, please believe in Christ rising from the dead, because if you don't believe in resurrection from the dead, then you don't believe in Christ.

That was the message that Sunday from the priest and that was from the letter of Paul. And so that blew me away. And, I don't know, Apollo the way. Okay.

There are some extraordinary stories in James's book Talking to Heaven, too, and Don Raschein story is one of them. Their three year old son Douglas, fell to his death climbing Mount Fuji in 1994, a year earlier. Douglas had moved to Japan to be a chief attorney for the Sony Corporation. Don and Sue were so distraught after their son's death that they met with James, even though they thought that it was a crazy idea. They now say they have proof that he was in touch with their dead son, Douglas.

And what is that proof?

Well, the proof is that James told us when we went to see him that there was a helicopter involved and we said, no, no, there was no helicopter involved. And he also said that we would be getting pictures after Doug had died, that we'd be getting pictures of Doug climbing Mount Fuji and right before he fell off of the mountain and we said, no, no, there was no pictures found. I guess about three months later, we got a bill for ten thousand dollars for the helicopter.

Then we got a phone call that they had found his camera. The climbing crew went back and they found his camera and they developed the pictures and they send them to us and we have them. Sure enough, it was just what James said. It was the pictures of Doug before he start climbing the mountain. And about 20 minutes before he fell off the mountain, he also told us that we would be getting a picture with a message on it.

And he told you this? Yes, he told us this. And my daughter, Carrie, we were putting a collage together for the celebration of his life and not his death, which was his funeral.

He women he said these words, you are going to be getting a picture with a message on it.

Yes. And our older daughter, Carrie, was looking through the pictures and she picked it up and she held it. And on the corner of the picture, it said, I love you. That convinced, you know, there was something that really, really convinced, OK, that didn't convince, you know, that convinced me. That convinced me. But I mean, before I went to James, I wasn't really I thought, what are we going for?

My husband was really I thought I was going to lose him till after Doug's death. He couldn't eat. He couldn't sleep. And we went to see James and what the things that James told us gave Don back his life. Don kept having these dreams that he was catching, that he was falling off the mountain and he dropped him. And when we went to James, Doug told us, I'm OK, dad, I'm safe, I'm OK, it's all right, Dad.

You're going to be OK. And he gave us the will to go on. James did. To move on. To move on. And then James said when dad came, he met your daughter. I looked at James. I said, what? He said, your daughter's all grown up now. Well, we had lost another child. We lost a baby about 30 some years ago. And she lived for five days. And we didn't really talk too much about it then.

And he just brought up the daughter that our daughter that died and said she's all grown up and she's with her brother. And Atteya. This man was America as our savior, our savior. OK, and you know what the thing is, though?

But most important of this, what I want to know, how come some people grow up on the other side and other people seem to say the same usually go back to your life in the 30s.

That's usually a time.

And children, if you die at six, do you continue to grow on the other side? Yes. And it's OK. Why don't you just come back in another form in another life? Why don't you do that?

If your life is cut short, you may come back earlier. You have that that could happen to reincarnation or you could stay there for a long time.

OK, so what you're saying is from your belief system, based upon what you've written here and what you feel that you've experienced, is everybody is on a different level, right?

Some people go, they come back, some people don't write.

And there's heaven and hell. When the Bible says a father has a house with many mansions, what that means, the various spiritual levels that exist, which we create again, based on our thoughts of words and deeds. I go to that level.

And so in your opinion, what is heaven and hell, what we create with our mind and how we treat each other, that is heaven and hell is the love that we make as a love that we take, just like the Beatles said.

Exactly right. We create or heaven or hell. Our health could be how we treated someone and then where do we live, how we treated that person and trying to forgive ourselves. And one of the hardest things for people to do is forgive themselves, that's all.

OK, what do you want to say back there, man? I'm curious. Is the fact you used the term Heaven in heaven is a biblical term, and in my beliefs you have to be born again and saved to be in heaven. And you say that you can communicate with all people that have passed over. So how do you communicate with those in hell?

Because you just defined what hell was right?

And when you say born again, I think maybe you mean it's the spirit within the spirit form. Maybe that's born again.

And it's important to note that I don't care if one believes me or not. That's not what my mission is about. Whether you believe that doesn't matter to me. If you feel it's good for you and it helps you, that's all that matters. I can make a lot of money doing these private readings. I stopped. I can thousands because I have a three year waiting list, but I had to stop doing the private readings because that's what the work is about.

It's about helping people.

So what does that mean? You do people for free?

No, I don't have people for free. I do large lectures and a book. So you don't do private.

I have to stop doing private. If people want to contact me, they go to my website. That's the only way I lectures.

Some people, of course, are not convinced that my guest today, James Van Praagh, can talk with the dead and that's why we live in America, because you have the right to think whatever you want to.

Michael Shermer is you have the right to think and you can even say it, the publisher of Skeptic magazine and the author of Why People Believe Weird Things is one of them.

Let me be clear about this and is firm about it as I can be. James Van Praagh does not communicate with the dead. He is not a psychic.

What is this about an anniversary?

James Van Praagh has a number of techniques he uses to get information on people that makes it look like he's psychic.

He knew it, David, as well, didn't he?

You can, for example, hire a private investigator to get information on people. The cold reading techniques works by asking a lot of questions. I see a man standing behind you. Is that your father?

I have a lady here who died on an operating table and it looks like she wasn't expected to pass over. And it was like, I feel like with someone's mom here. Does it make sense you get the information by feedback, by throwing out lots of statements and lots of questions, who has a stomach problem?

But is this stomach trouble? Isn't there?

Oh, my husband two people volunteer information to the psychic because they want the psychic to be true, to be right, to be in touch with their loved ones.

And the beautiful thing about this is that people will remember the hits and forget all the misses.

She's talking about you having her strand of pearls or something, having her stuff, a necklace or something of hers to know. And some of them, Angie or Angela or Andja or and or some like this Angie or something he's talking to me about. Don't know who that is. And Rose something with a Rose Rosie or something like this. Keep it going. It means OK. What do you want to say to your skeptics, not only your skeptics, people who say you're out now just faking it, good that they can believe that that they have that right.

It's an uninformed person and uninformed experience. They have no experience. First of all, he doesn't understand the mechanics of mediumship. What is it all about? How I'm able to do it?

He has no way of knowing that he's also never had the experience. How can he speak from someone who had no experience with us? He's never had a reading by me, never. So how can he speak if he doesn't have experience that people have had experiences they can speak from experience. Someone who's not an educated person with this sort of thing.

But what about what he said about the technique, about, you know, because you do you ask a lot of questions.

This is not easy to do. It's not an easy thing at all. And I'll be the first to tell you, I'm interpreting strangers coming through to me and I have to make sure that the spirit is on the right frequency. The reason I ask yes or no questions is because when I ask, do you have a mother passed over from cancer, I get that information. Yes, the lights go off in the person's aura.

OK, this is my question. There's only so many things you're going to die from, right? So when you say stomach problems, it's a kidney thing. It's a hard ailment. It's cancer.

If you start from the head to the total brain tumor or heart attack, stomach problems, kidney, you know what I'm saying?

Yes. It's just like Michael Shermer said one, I did a reading for a lady and I said that your son was killed with a bullet against a bullet standing water, three quarters of the earth water.

So when you say, OK, that's water. Yes, yeah.

But, you know, falling from Mount Fuji is, you know, a good one. Yeah, that's pretty specific.

I, I'm giving you that now are said to me, I said I told this lady was not one bullet. This plane was riddled with bullets in a corner and Michael's reaction was, well, isn't every teenager killed that way?

No. No, they're not most with the suicide.

Tell me about the chain, though, because you're a believer and you said that there are different things because your session with him was at one on one. Yes. That wasn't like a whole bunch of people.

There was an entire group of people. And what specifically convinced you? Well, he kept telling me about jewelry. Yeah. Which I think is obvious. A lot of people jewelry and has done well.

You do have, you know, a piece of her jewelry on. And I said, yes, you know, her ring. That is quite natural. But he said, but there's also another piece, something that she said that meant something to you. But the clasp on it broke. And before I could say yes or no, he said it's not the clasp. There's something wrong with the chain near the clasp. It's in your jewelry box. How does somebody know?

What's that about that a pendant that was bought in memory of my daughter have broken just next to the classroom, is sitting in this condition in my jewelry box.

I don't know, but I think OK. OK, I don't know.

That's really what I want to know is if you're going to take all the time, with all due respect, to come back and visit you, why are we talking about chains here?

It's the evidential details with something they can relate to that.

OK, I think that's why doesn't she just give you the message you want to hear? Oh, shoot. I mean, she did. I love you. I miss you. I mean, those are the most important things. She also said, you know, Mom, I'm responding to the balloons. Was there something about balloons? Nobody knew that I used to if I was in the grocery store and I'd see a balloon that struck, my fiance said take it to her grave.

I'd wait a couple of days and I'd bring it home. I never told a soul I did this, but she thanked me for the balloons, for the acknowledgement of still having her as part of my life.

What you want to say?

Well, from our case, dog died on Mount Fuji. James mentioned that there was a helicopter. We knew nothing of the helicopter whatsoever. That came a month later after his death. And then he also mentioned that there were pictures of Doug before he died, OK? And that came to almost three months later. So James is right on. David had asthma most of his life, and he died from that. When I first met James, to my knowledge, the only thing he knew is that I lost a son.

There are many things that convinced me that James was speaking with David, one of them which touched me so deeply, is that James asked me if David had a little gold chain that had a high on it and if is a symbol of our Jewish religion.

And I said yes. And he said, James, that David is telling me that he saw you sitting on the bed clutching that, and I said, my God, I was doing that this morning, I've never done that in my life. And then I thought, how did you know it was a gold mine, not a Silver Star of David or something like that. Just that morning, we had taken a picture of David and switched the frame that it had been and rearranged it, put it out and decided to put it on the piano.

And James in the reading was saying that he sees music around.

And I said, David as a pianist.

And he said, well, there's also mentioned that he's very happy with the way you move the picture and change the frame and put it on the piano. And I thought, now that's again, something that nobody would know.

This is Peter REDgroup who says he discovered a brother he never knew about during his session with James. It's very interesting how that happened.

The first session I had with James, a number of remarkable things were revealed. One of them, a person by the name of Robert, came through and James said to me, There's a person by the name of Robert or Bobby. There's a Robert here. And he says he knows you and he sends you much love. I didn't know anyone who had passed over by the name of Robert. The response was he's telling me that he is of your blood.

So I accepted that it didn't make any sense to me. But the next day, I called an aunt of mine in England and just asked her, Lucy, it's her name, who is Robert? And there were a few moments of silence. And she said to me, How did you find out?

Well, it turns out that Robert was a baby boy that my mother had had about four years before me, who had died at six months from pneumonia.

And my mother had never mentioned a word about Robert to me ever. And she died in nineteen eighty eight. This reading was in 1992, and I thought that was quite remarkable. Certainly evidence that life after life and you say for this you're no longer afraid to die because of it.

I have absolutely no fear of death whatsoever.

You say a lot about what you believe this means, as we just heard Peter talk about what this has meant to him as a living person who no longer lives his life as a victim changed. You say the way your husband lived changed your whole life.

Why you stay in the closet before I went to games and cry constantly pulling my hair out. Where's my son? Where's my son? Now I'm able to go on with my life because I know that dog is all right.

OK, one of the more convincing stories, if you choose to be convinced in this book is about a victim, somebody who was found, who their parents thought had been so a suicide. And then he supposedly gave the name of the person who.

That's right. He came through and he talked about this guy named Eddie or something. I said, yes, that's a friend of his. And I said something about, well, he's talking about he knows more. He knows more.

And he said he knows about the garage and something like that. And it was like they found out this information through this guy. They call the police. They researched it. They had drugs in the garage and there was a bad drug deal going on.

And his friend killed him, made it look like a suicide.

So it wasn't suicide. What have you learned about suicide? What I've learned from suicide is the person might not feel that they fit in here. They feel like they don't fit for some, they don't fit in. That suicide is not the right way to go. We're here to learn.

You say in the book you've never talked to a person who's gone over from suicide who was happy about it.

No one ever. Because you see this natural time to be born, natural time to die. It's like an avocado. You rip out that pit before it's time. The magnetic ties you have, the earth are still in place, so you must live out the time. It would be for you to move on to a higher level.

Do we all have spirit guides? We will have spirit guides and teachers. Some of our family members. Some are spirit guide some lifetimes ago. Some are aunts, relatives, friends do.

Some of us have more than others. We have more than others, depending on the type of work we do too.

I think I have a team. I think you do have a team and I think you need a team. You need to see team. You have a good team.

And so do you believe that the spirit guides are guiding you? How do you connect to that?

What happens is what you can do is and also how you can contact Spirit on your own, which I write about at night. When you go to sleep, you can ask in a dream, please show me yourself. Please show me yourself. And within two weeks you will see something. If you do that time or spirit, your friend or relative have passed over, you will see them in a dream. That's how they communicate. The easiest way the other way is through electricity, radios.

Telephones will ring, lights flicker on and off because they can affect electrically the mechanics of electronics because of the vibration vibrations, a frequency that they're on. OK, and I don't know how they do it, but they do it well.

I want to thank all of you for being here and sharing your stories. I don't know if it's true or if it's not true. It's up to you to believe or not to believe as you see fit. What does matter to me is that you find some comfort.

And if whatever you've heard, as you say, makes you not want to live your life as a victim anymore, gives you a sense of peace. You can go on, you can live your life. The most important thing than what I live my life trying to do with this show and have been since the very beginning, is to let people know in a sense that you are creating heaven and hell here on earth.

You got it. You're responsible for everything. You are responsible for your life and your thoughts. And one more thing, your behavior and your actions, the other one.

But you also have to realize everyone is the same. Everyone has a God spark within them. No one's better than anyone else. We're all the same. We're on it as one. Yes, I know.

We're just all different colors and shapes and sizes for identification purposes. That's right.

That's what I say. Inside the God. Inside of God. Right. Thank you, James Van Praagh.

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