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I got an answer for you.

Okay. Is it better to be up three at the end of a game with 3 seconds left or be up four? This is a tough analytics question that is hotly debated in the math community.

Reggie Miller asked this question tonight, and I said to myself, thank God, because I've been saying this for years, I'd almost rather be up three points than four points.

Big cat speaker one.

The best part about Reggie Miller, do.

You want to know why?

Why? Tell me.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Because I've got a brain injury.

Well, so the best part about Reggie Miller asking this question, it was. It was the Lakers Pelicans game, which will get to both games playing games. But the best part about him asking this question, the situation was the Lakers were up two with 2.7 seconds left to get fouled. And he says out loud, and you could hear his brain, like, turning on out loud, he was like, if you make the first one, you're up three. Do you try to purposefully miss the second one? Because they don't have any timeouts, so they have to go coast to coast. And then he finished it with saying, or do you just make them both go up four and game over? Like, at the end, he was like, wait, shit, four points? Yeah, that would be game over.

He tied it together nicely at the end, which was good. But for a second, I was with you, I was like, wait.

And I'm.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big. You don't need a three here. Guy like, that's. That's my favorite thing to say at the end of a game, if there's 1 second left, if there's half a second left, if you're down four points, I will be the guy that don't need a three here.

Just to remind people that I know.

Ball.

But, yeah, in that instance, I was just like, what could reggie even be talking about? But I think he just mixed up having a two versus three point lead and having a three versus four point lead.

Yeah.

I don't know what he mixed up, but it was, the Lakers survive. They win another play in. They've won three play ins. They've gotten into the playoffs three times via the play in. We had an all time, all time Zion Williamson performance, 40 points. He was so, so good. It was like, everything that you wanted Zion to be, he was it tonight. And then he got hurt. Where we don't really know what he got hurt with. He threw his, you know, towel down, went to the locker room. We even had the weird moment where Kevin Harlan and Reggie Miller were like, we're going to go to Ally La Force. She has an update on Zion. And she's like, guys, I don't know shit. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. No one knows. And then afterwards, he left without a limp and didn't talk to reporters. So we're left just wondering what the hell happened. Because I think the Pelicans win that game. If Zion stays in the game they had. Brandon Ingram wasn't good. He was. He's been coming back from injury. He just looked bad. And Zion was like, I'm putting the whole team on my back.

And he almost beat the Lakers by himself.

Yeah.

That entire game was just a microcosm of his entire career, really. He's like, oh, he's awesome.

He's awesome.

He's awesome. Fuck, he's hurt. That's kind of how it goes. And after the play was over, I was trying to figure out what was wrong. Like, I was trying to diagnose it via the video, and it was really strange because he. He does that little drive through the hole, makes the shot, and then he, like, pumps his fist and turns around, and then he, after, like, two steps, then he realizes, oh, I need to start walking slower. And it may be the only thing I could think of. And they said they're doing, like, an MRI on his leg. Is he might have felt whatever pain he was in might be familiar to him. Like, he knows exactly what it is, and he knows exactly what it means because he's had it before, and he knows how long it's going to take to recover from it because it wasn't like, it didn't look to be catastrophic. Like, oh, fuck, my Achilles is torn, or Acl or anything like that. It was just like, a realization of, God damn it, this sucks because I know exactly what it is that's hurt, and it sucks that it's hurt, but I can't do anything about it.

It sucked.

It sucked because he was having an incredible, incredible performance, and we're stuck just being like, fuck, that was going to be awesome. But the Lakers do advance. Should we start the narrative? Is this Lakers team dangerous?

Pft.

They now play the nuggets. I like, you know, this is going to be the story that's everyone talking about. Like, look at the Lakers. I think they finished the season, like, 24 and ten. So they've, they've played well. A lot of guys who won a bubble championship, which we half count, except for Caruso. That's a full championship for him. Are we gonna, are we gonna do the. Watch out for the Lakers. They could beat the nuggets. Oh, I think we have.

Are you in that? They're gonna beat the nuggets. Are you in that?

We have to talk them out.

Hanks muted. Probably for the best.

Yeah, Hank is muted.

I think they could be Nuggets. I think they be. They could be the Nuggets.

You think? Yeah.

Now yeah.

Championship experience, you know, championship DNA.

They've got the DNA.

Players of all time. Anthony Davis, All Stars, all NBA players. Why not?

Well, I don't think they're nearly as good as the Nuggets, is the thing.

Anthony Davis does look healthy.

I think that's how we started last year's playoffs. Anthony Davis looks really, really healthy right.

Now, and he's an absolute beast when he is healthy. Let me ask you a question, Hank. This series, how many games is this series?

It's a seven game series.

It's a seven game series. Okay. So if it were a 15 game series, though, I would give you the Lakers. I would say, because the Lakers have beaten the Nuggets four times over the last 15 times they've played. So I would give you that. If they played 15 games and all the Lakers had to do is get to four, I said, yes, that can happen.

Best of 15.

But it's only four when it's the Lakers.

15 times in the last three years they played, and the Lakers have won four times. I just. I think we're going to all. Everyone's going to talk themselves into it, and, I mean, the Lakers are not. I don't think the Nuggets wanted to see the Lakers.

I would.

I would guess that because they obviously. I mean, anytime you have to play LeBron in the playoffs, it's scary. But last year, they did sweep them. People said it was the. The closest sweep that's ever happened in a seven game series. I think the Nuggets are better.

Yeah.

I mean, we all remember game four, one of the all time best games in the history of the NBA that nobody will remember.

Yeah.

Hank, what are you doing to yourself right now? Because, like, pft and I are putting ourselves in a very open situation where if the Lakers somehow win this series, this will look terrible for us. But it also would mean LeBron beat the champs, and they would be like, okay, now who else do they have? You know, they could get to the finals. So what are you doing?

I just want someone to beat the Nuggets. I like seven games, drag out battle. Really.

Just really big cat.

Here's. But here's the thing.

Against you.

Here's the thing. I think.

I think we. We might have to just go along.

With Hank, because Hank, he knows ball.

I think.

I think Hank's right, and the Lakers.

Can do it, and the Lakers can actually go all the way to the.

NBA Finals, and I think the Lakers could beat the Celtics in the NBA Finals, and LeBron could get a title over Hank.

I would be.

That would be awesome.

So this scenes, the start of the.

Championship DVD was Zion throwing the towel and going and huffing and puffing into the locker room. That was the start of the Celtics.

Yeah.

The Lakers Western Conference finals DVD.

Yeah.

Champion DVD.

Well, the. So the Pelicans. I don't know what is going to happen with Zion if he's going to play on Friday. I don't know. I mean, without a limp, I would say no. Cause it looked like he was, like, he looked like he had a non contact injury and he knew right away that he was fucked.

Yeah.

You know, that look that he had, it was. It was either he knew immediately was really, really bad, or he knew immediately because he's had that same injury before and he re aggravated it.

Right. So they're gonna play. The Pelicans are gonna play. The kings light the beam. The kings take down the warriors. Is this the end? Is this the end for the warriors? Because they went out pretty sad. It felt like they never, they got, like, what, to four points at halftime is like, okay, here come the warriors. They were never like. Steph was never able to get open shots. Clay is washed. I so stupidly was like, what if Clay just has a throwback game? Because I love. I love Clay, but he's.

He's washed.

And now, now you have, like, a bunch of questions of, are the warriors.

Is that it?

Is that like, is this finally. It was probably it last year, but is this finally it?

I think we said last year that that should have been it. At the end of their run, they needed to do something, like, drastic to. To retool themselves. But, uh, they. There's no more frustrating team to watch when they stink than the warriors. When they're good, it looks like they broke basketball. And when they stink, it looks like basketball broke them.

They were.

They're just so frustrated. You just want to, like, yell at the tv, like, quit being pussies. You just want to scream at him.

Make some shots. They just couldn't make any shots. And they're, you know, they're. They're trusting on guys that are not playing in the right positions. With Trace, Jackson, Davis, and, you know, there was a moment where Moses Moody hit a couple threes, and you're like, oh, here come the warriors.

And it's just.

No, that's.

It's.

It's over. I'm actually disappointed that Draymond didn't get ejected. That felt like an ejection game. I was very upset about that.

I think he wanted to go.

Yeah.

What does this mean for Chris Paul's legacy?

Oh, another playoff loss. We should probably get Racillo on.

Yeah, we need to talk about this.

Chris Paul blew it. I'm going to text him right now, and we'll just see if he can respond in quick enough time.

Yeah, just.

Just a comment really, is all that we need.

Actually, Hank, you text him, because he doesn't respond to your text. So just ask.

Ask.

Is this another.

This is another Chris Paul playoff loss?

Just ask him that.

Just that.

Yeah.

And then maybe ask if you can get the video for your brother's bachelor party.

Yeah.

Actually, know what big cat this is? You should facetime him because he facetimed you when the Badgers lost. This is his equivalent.

Yeah. Yeah.

Although, I mean, Chris Paul, this doesn't. He was not. He was a non factor. I have a question for you.

Pft.

So the kings, uh, they kind of, like, sputter down the stretch. This is a big win for them. Obviously, the warriors, like, have been there. You know, they've had some great wars with them in the last few years. Sabonis is so much fun to watch. Subonus does.

Does he just have.

Has he just had a black eye for five years? I feel like he's had a black eye constantly.

I think he, like, does the. The smokey eye to himself before every game for intimidation reasons.

Yeah, but he looks.

He looks intimidating. You don't want to fuck with a guy like that. It's like, no, you see a guy with a black guy, you see a guy with a missing tooth, or you see a guy with cauliflower. You're used to your clear.

But I just.

Another.

Was another Chris.

Chris Paul loss. He's asking us for the playoffs.

Yeah, asking for comment doesn't count as the playoffs, right?

Isn't playing.

Oh, true.

Shit.

So how rephrases.

Well, let's let Ryan arrive at that conclusion on his own.

I don't want to.

I don't want to give him excuses ahead of time.

The fact that, hey, sending this text is great. And also shout out, Keegan Murray, Iowa basketball is. Is on fire right now. We talk a little bit about the WNBA draft during hot seat cool throwing. He was awesome. He had everything. So, yeah, maybe let's light the beam. Let's just keep light in the beam.

I do.

I. I want the Kings to be good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I do, too.

I don't think that they have a chance against the thunder, but I want them to be good. I also would like them to maybe lengthen their nets. Because I just, I can't stand watching a game. This is a very sad old guy take. But whenever the Nets are really short, it just bothers me.

Yeah, I want to see swishes.

I want to see cool swishes.

I want to see them.

I want to see the net really swish.

I would like them to do the in season tournament with chain nets. So you get to swish sound with the chain. Like playground sound.

That would.

I would like that as well.

All right, so you send the text, tank, where's no way he's going to respond in time. Yeah.

I mean, to me was, yeah, no problem.

We should have Hank just be the.

Designated text because you know that he's just not going to respond. And we could be like, well, chalk it up to it being Hank.

Pft.

Other things we got to talk about. Oh, they're lighting the beam right now. Sybonis with his, with his black eyes lighting the beam.

They fucking killed the warriors. They killed the warriors.

There's the beam. It's lit.

The beam is very cool.

BFT.

Congratulations to your Capitals clinching the a spot in the NHL playoffs. Stanley cup playoffs. That was a crazy, like ten minutes of hockey. I was actually watching the Red Wings game. Those kind of wanting Patrick Kane to get in the playoffs. The Red Wings scored with 3 seconds left. And then the Flyers, knowing that they needed to win in regulation, pulled their goalie and then lost in regulation. And people are big mad at you. PFT in the Capitals.

That's fine.

That's.

I understand why they're mad. They should be mad at torts. They should be mad at the coach of the Flyers. Because what happened was, you're right, the Flyers needed to win in regulation to have any shot at it. And nobody told Torts that the Red Wings had scored to tie it up at the end of regulation. So Torts was operating under the assumption that they could still get into the playoffs with a regular, regular time win. So they pulled their goalie, and nobody told them that the goal happened until after the Capitals went down scored, which is about a minute and a half of real time. Like after the goal happened in the Detroit game to win, the capital scored. It was about 1 minute, 20 seconds. And in that time, nobody let torch know. Okay, you can put the goalie back out there, but I don't know, like, if that was the plan along to have some guy on the bench with like an iPad checking the scores every 30 seconds and, and keeping him informed, but for whatever reason, he didn't do it, it ended up working out pretty good for me, so I'm not going to complain.

But this is, this caps team is the weirdest fucking team ever. Nobody thought they were going to make the playoffs. Their goal differential is unbelievably bad. Last time I checked. I don't know what it is now. I think it was like 36 ended up -36 on the season. I think in gold differential, the last team to make the playoffs with a goal differential of -30 or worse was the 1990 419 95 San Jose Sharks.

Whoa.

So, yeah, we've rooting for you guys.

Because there's nothing better than when a team makes the playoffs and everyone's like.

No one wanted to see this.

Fuck this.

This is bullshit.

That's the team you got to worry about. Because everyone was so mad and was like, fuck this. The Capitals are boring. They're going to get killed by the Rangers.

I might have to bet them against the Rangers. Fuck it.

Well, here's the good news, is the.

Caps made the playoffs.

Bad news is they have to play.

The Rangers, who won the president's trophy, which is, you know, basically impossible to lose in the playoffs if you're that good of a team, that you win the president's trophy. So there's like no chance that we can beat the Rangers. But I'm just glad to be there. Is very happy to be there. We got a hot goalie, too. Don't forget about that. Our goalie's standing on his head. I think the last two months he might be. I think he's first in goals or goals against average. He's got a bunch of shutouts. He's playing really, really well. The thing about the Caps is they, they get the shit kicked out of them all the time. That's why it's been such a frustrating season. They've lost 13 games by four or more goals this year, 13 games. But they're tied. I think they're top five for most one goal wins this season. So they, they can win the close ones. So, I mean, really, all I wanted, I said this to you guys before we left for the day is all my teams stink right now. I just, I want to have one team that I can root for in a playoff situation, and the Capitals are that team.

And actually tip the cap to the Capitals, because every, everything else in DC, by and large, has sucked for the last, like, 2025 years. The Nats had that one World Series run, which was incredible. But the Capitals are just, they're always there for me. They're my main bitch.

I love them.

Yeah.

Oh, got a response. Oh, you got a response.

Said, that's mean.

Oh, he can't actually care about the Chris Paul at this point. Like, it's, he's not even, he's playing off the bench. That wasn't a Chris Paul loss. I'm going to say right now, we're still, that wasn't a Chris Paul loss. That was a Clay Thompson loss. I'm excited.

I think it's partially Chris paltzo.

Yeah, partially. I'm excited for you. Pfd, about the Capitals. I really do. I do love whenever a team makes the playoffs and it's like, you, you like everyone. That was all I saw. Everyone's like, fuck this. We'd rather see this team or that team.

Nah.

Capitals got in and they did it in the last like 3 seconds or two minutes of the season.

Yeah, I asked. I asked Vikings fans how I can prepare to respond to all the haters out there. That'll be like, but the gold differential is so bad. You know, they had their team that made the playoffs not this past season, but. But two seasons ago, and the majority of responses were just like, it'll be fine. Just try not to lose to a team from New york in humiliating fashion in the first round. So I'm going to try to take that to heart. And then they also told me, just like any, anytime somebody says the capital shouldn't be in the playoffs, just so.

Tell them to suck my dick.

So that's what I'm going to do. I have also one last advanced analytics I'd like to share with you guys. So I'm going to read. I'm going to read something and then I'm going to tell you the advanced analytics behind it. So this is from March 26, about to tune into my first Flyers game of the year. Apologies in advance. All the diehards out there at this point. The Philadelphia Flyers had 36 wins on the season. This is March 26. They finished with 38 wins. They went two and eight after that tweet, and they missed the playoffs by a point. They went two and eight. And that was from our very own Maxillon team. I can't believe that. I remember when you said you were.

Going to watch your first Flyers game.

And then I just went and looked at the schedule and it's just els, just everywhere.

How did you do that?

He was flyered up. Big cat.

I don't know.

I don't know if you heard the news.

L's everywhere.

Two and eight to finish the season. After Max decided to tune in.

That's actually one point.

What?

One single point.

I think they lost. I think they end up losing by.

There was a bunch of tiebreakers for the last spot, but, yeah, the Flyers ended up with 87 points, capitals ended up with 91. But that was also including tonight's game where they lost in regulation. That's even for you, Max.

That's impressive.

I don't give a fuck.

It's sixers. It's all about.

Yeah, but, but there's, there's definitely a bunch of people from Philly that are listening to this, and they're pissed off at you. What do you say to them?

I'm so.

I am.

I do apologize to them.

But that was also. That was the only game I watched, and that was.

You drive by stunk him.

I'm out of here, guys.

I guess.

I don't know.

I don't think this counts.

I don't care. Like, I know, like, two players on the Flyers.

I would have.

If they made the playoffs, though.

I would have got fired up.

You would have been.

You would have been in the fucking flyer zone.

Yeah, sorry. Sorry to Philly. Yeah, I was.

I was gonna be really mad at.

You, Max, if you had beaten the capital tonight, and you would have gone into your, like, little flyer zone in the playoffs, and then I would just be sitting here sad about everything and. No, I'm happy.

I'm very happy that you made it over.

Over me.

Thanks, Max.

It means a lot.

We got.

I just need one.

I don't.

I don't ask for a lot in sports. I just, I want to. I want to have one team that I can put my heart and soul into for at least a week during the playoffs over the course of a calendar year. I don't think that's too much to ask from the sports Scotts.

We're just, we're right in the. I mean, I expect the Bulls to maybe win on Wednesday night, but then lose to the heat of the Sixers. And so we're back in the spot where Hank's just sitting with two teams. Everyone's else just, you know, you. You got in at the last game. I'm going to play in. Max, isn't a plan. Trying, trying, but you've had, you've had.

Like, a banner year in drafts, though.

That's true.

All your draft success, your draft success.

This year has been worth, like, one playoff series, for sure, in terms of enjoyment.

That's true. We, we also. I completely forgot, and we'll get to it later. With Mister pair, who's owned by our run and only memes. But we get crazy memes coming up soon with the Islanders because they have been on a historic run to get into the playoffs. And memes is a fucking psycho with the islanders.

And you know what?

He's.

He might hate the Rangers more than I do, right?

He does.

Like, I've got.

I got him on my side.

I've got a very powerful force behind me.

Yes, he absolutely does. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. We have a hot seat, cool throne, we have a great Blake Griffin interview, and then we have Mister Pear. Awesome show.

Awesome.

Awesome show. Let's kick it back to ourselves in studio.

Okay, before we get to hot sea. Cool Toronto. Top golf. It's golf. It's not golf. It's top golf. If you've never heard of them, they have all the stuff to make them legit, golf, like balls, clubs, turf, and even a ball picker upper cart thing. But they're very much not golf, too. We're talking loud music, giant targets, climate controlled bays, and unbeatable food and drinks day or night. We went in Arizona. We had a great time. Great food. By the way, the wings were phenomenal. The flatbread, pepperoni honey pizza.

So good.

Incredible. And the golf was also incredible from PFT and myself.

Yeah, I think I got a win. Big cat, you got a win.

I got a couple wins.

It was great. Yeah, it was a fun time for the whole squad.

You had to order a second round of appetizers. Yeah, because max ate everything.

Yeah.

That's mean. Oh, that's mean. That's mean. But yeah, go watch the PMTV. We had a great time at Topgolf. Hank lost everything. So with spring and summer on the horizon, if you're looking to add some more play to your life, Topgolf is the place to be since they want everyone to play. They just launched half off golf Monday through Wednesday. When you book in the app, all you have to do is book a Monday through Wednesday in their app and you'll get half off the golf. Of course, even they have some rules. Half off golf Monday through Wednesday applies to gameplay only, isn't offered at the Vegas venue, and is only available when you book in their app for a limited time. Get half off golf every Monday through Wednesday when you download and book in the app. For full details, visit topgolf.com forward slash PMT. That's topgolf.com forward slash p m t henry hot seat. Cool throne. Did you file your taxes?

My hot seat is CB's.

Oh, okay.

Did they not file their taxes?

I don't know about that, but they did air a live televised concert of Billy Joel at MSG.

Yes.

And they cut it off with two minutes ago in the middle of piano man.

But basically before it started, the Masters ran too long. Also not great. Not great ratings for the Masters.

Oh, really? So we didn't like it.

Didn't like it. Doesn't help that Scottie had won by the. By ten or eleven.

Is Caitlin Clark bad for men's golf?

I would say so. Everyone's gearing up. They're saving their watching for the WNBA draft. So CB's did pay their taxes.

CB's probably did pay their taxes. Although, you know, networks, corporations, it's a little. They get a little shady with that stuff.

So they cut off after Friday or Saturday. When is. When is the. The Billy Joel song? When does it take place?

What?

Saturday?

Saturday.

It's 05:00 on a Saturday.

Yeah. Yeah.

09:00 on a Saturday.

Yeah.

People were pissed. There's a lot of commercials.

They're re airing the entire thing.

Damn.

Because people are so mad.

Billy Joel lives the best life. He just takes a helicopter from his house.

I think that's court mandated.

Yeah, that's true. He can't fly the helicopter.

Can't drive.

He takes a helicopter from his house, goes to MSG, sells it out, 20 minutes, he's home.

Yeah.

Lenny balls in the front row every time.

Yeah.

Great life.

It's incredible.

Yeah.

I feel like we should. I should have gone to one of those at one point.

Yeah.

I feel the same way. Because you go to MSG and you see the big bang.

Invited me. No less than five.

I know.

I think he invited me to the one on Sunday.

Yeah.

The banner. They have a dedicated banner.

Next.

So I think it's bigger than the Ranger Stanley cup banners, actually.

All right, so next time we have to go to New York City, let's just say we can't go unless Billy Joel's playing.

Yep.

And we'll do that.

Is this.

He just has hits after hits after hits.

You forget all of them.

Yeah.

Top three Billy Joel songs.

Vienna.

Okay.

Italian restaurant.

Yep.

That's a good one. Bottle of red.

Yeah.

And I will go. Whoa. Down Easter. Alexa.

Rocket man.

Those are.

Rocket man's a great Billy Joel song.

Yep.

Goodbye, yellow Brook Road. The one they did for Princess Diana, I thought was really touching.

Yeah.

Candle in the wind.

Candle in the win is number one. Number two. I'm gonna say the bitches back.

Yep.

Bitches back rocks. And then Saturday night.

So. Right.

For fighting.

Yeah.

Saturday, Saturday.

Sad Billy Joe Rock songs. Pretty good, too.

Cool.

Okay.

Did she do her taxes?

Have to do with any.

I don't know why you keep bringing the taxes. My cool throne.

You did your tax, though? Of course.

I'm an american.

That's all it takes.

My cool throne is the WNBA. Because ratings talk. The ratings came in for the WNBA draft. Stunning, stunning, stunning numbers. 2.4 million viewers for WNBA draft last year was 572,000. The NBA draft did 3.7 million on ABC. The MLB draft had 744,000. NHL, 681,000.

I didn't even know that the MLB draft was televised.

Yeah, had no idea.

They do it in studio 42 at the baseball field. Where do you guys took BP?

That should be.

That should be a punishment. At some point, somebody should have to sit and watch the entire MLB draft.

Do you think we could talk mlb GM? Like. I don't know. We know any, but, like, if we. If we actively started being like, all right.

What?

Front offices. Listen to part of my take. There are so many rounds. I think we could maybe get drafted. Just gather, kind of throw away those last picks. Like they'll draft someone who's playing college football, being like, maybe.

Maybe if he says yes to us.

Right. Yeah.

Yeah, that was somebody else.

You're right.

Somebody always takes a pit. They use it on, like Russell Wilson.

Yeah.

Quarterback. Who's left going to.

Let's get Max drafted. Because he actually has. You could be like, well, he. We have tape.

I have a baseball reference.

We have a baseball reference. So let's get Max drafted. I don't know who we can do. Like, someone, please, listening, who works in some organization. Please reach out.

Just.

All we're asking for is 40th. You know what? We'll even. We'll pay you. We'll give you a signing to have.

A rookie wage scale. No, I mean, I could be an issue.

Max, what if you got drafted, then you refused to sign.

Max just heard the word scale and shook his head.

That's all right. Come on, now. I'm getting too many straight. Hank started it. I haven't taken one straight shot at.

You, and the top call wasn't even stray. That was just not about you being.

Well, yeah, I mean, that was also. I mean, you were getting made fun of, so you were just like, oh.

Yeah, let me deflection one camera, one handed, 17 pieces.

Well, I mean, I was.

You're acting like you weren't even choosing.

Started to lose and you just like, Max just won't eat it.

Just turn the vacuum button on.

And he's like, Kirby.

Yeah.

They cut the draft in half. There's only 20 rounds. 19. There was 40 there.

40 rounds.

Oh, no. We might not get Max and 14 picks last year. Let's drafted.

Speaking of baseball, Larry Laquino and John Henry, all times comebacks.

What?

I mean, Larry. John Henry.

Didn't.

Larry Werner.

Yes.

All time scumbags for not attending Larry Luchino's funeral.

Oh.

It was two days after opening day, which they were at.

That is crazy.

All time scumbags. All time scumbags. All times.

Probably sent some nice flowers.

All times. Come back. Definitely don't pay their taxes. Lock them up.

Yeah.

You wouldn't want to do the tax, because then if they turn around.

Lock them up.

Like, lock them up for what? For what reason?

Not paying their tax, being all time scumbags.

Okay, but not for the tax thing.

Yeah, that should be part of it, but not. You can't judge a book by just someone that doesn't pay taxes.

But I'm not one of those, um. Don't stop.

Stop.

Satire podcast.

The WNBA draft, the.

The.

All the rookie wages getting tweeted out, and everyone's like, what the fuck? It's like, well, this is what Caitlin Clark might be able to fix.

She might be able to improve things a little bit.

Like, if people watch and then this starts making more money, then they get to pay more. But it was funny for people to be like that. You can't even live in New York City on that.

Well, her number one. She was number one. Like, they got excited because her Iowa teammate got drafted later on to the same team. What is she making?

Yeah, probably, like 50.

Yeah.

Unrelated, I. I'm a big Indiana fever fan. Always have been.

Yeah, well, unrelated, we should probably get the boys some Chicago sky season tickets because we're bringing back bowling ball.

What do they play?

Win trust.

Angel Reese's.

She's really fucking Angel Reese and Cardoza. My friend Ricky O'Donnell threw out a tweet because he covers all Chicago basketball. I think he said that in the last year, the two of them have shot five total three pointers. Yeah, bully ball just reborn. Just bully ball. Everyone's shooting the three. We're just gonna fucking pack the paint and just have some beasts down there.

Rebounds all day. Do you think I could get a rebound over Cardosa?

No.

Yeah.

She would dominate me in the paint, hopefully.

I would love to have both them.

Come in and we'll have them on the show. Yeah, we'd love it, but yeah, the, the, the contracts getting tweeted out were tough to look at, but it will get changed.

Also endorsements.

I mean, Caitlin Clark, that's the thing. Revelle keeps talking about how she's, she's taking a pay cut from Iowa, but now she get a shoe deal. I would imagine her shoe deal is going to be huge and million, $15 million.

It's gonna be massive. She's gonna get a ton of endorsement.

She couldn't do a shoe deal at Iowa cuz they're a Nike school.

Yeah, she'll make a ton of money.

Yeah. Okay.

Good job.

Hot seat. Cool.

Thrown.

Hank.

Nothing to do with taxes.

Nothing.

Okay.

I don't know why I keep bringing it up other than attacks I just passed.

My.

My hot seat is Hank because he didn't do his taxes.

Well, I didn't say it was you.

I didn't say it was you, Hank.

Yeah.

Any Hank yet? Let me finish yet. My hot seat is Trump. Who's on?

I've always that one year when. But I would have got money back.

But no, my hot seat is Gordon Ramsay. Gordon Ramsey, because his restaurant got taken over. He had a pub in central London, and it's up for sale for 13 million quid, which I think is their way of saying dollars. And then six people, squatters have taken over the building and they're occupying it and saying, we own this place now.

Oh, no.

And so now we can't sell it. Cuz you got squatters just living in there.

Who.

I mean, not to get political, but the squatting thing is, it blows my mind.

Set it up.

How is that political?

Why can't they just arrest him?

So squad someone in politics.

It's someone in politics fault, which is crazy.

So this is in London. So I don't know what their law is over there.

True.

But remember back in like 2008, 2009, when the housing market crashed, there were a ton of people that were just moving into foreclosed homes and putting up these, like, legal notices. They're like the same people that would go to court and then complain to the judge about it not being the proper type of court because the tassels on the flag weren't right. Yeah, like those, they know, like the letter of the law. And nowadays there's a bunch of people that are doing it that are taking advantage of like renters rights in New York that are doing. But this just squatting has gone back, I think back since like the 18 hundreds.

You can't, like kick someone out. It's crazy. The thing is, whenever I see these videos of, like, a guy who's like, I just started living in this house.

And nothing anyone can do, and nothing happened because I'm like, wait, how? I don't do, like, what would you do?

You just go home and you fucking lose my mind.

Yeah.

If somebody was in my house when.

I went home, I would be like, dude, you probably don't pay taxes.

Yeah, yeah, they definitely don't.

Yeah.

I would just get bad, bad group to be in.

Like, cool. I guess you're paying rent. I would just charge them rent.

Probably file a mean extension.

Yeah, mean extension.

I'm dealing with some issues.

What's a mean.

What's the difference between an extension and mean extension?

It's just a really good one.

Yeah, maybe after the date. No, no, no.

My cool throne is the american judicial system. So I alluded to it a second ago, but the Trump trial is starting in Manhattan right now, and they're doing jury selection for it. And in the jury selection, one of the questions they're asking the prospective jurors is, do you listen to podcasts? And then they're asking them, what podcasts do you listen to? So juror number b 354 from Nomad was in seat number ten. And the podcast question, do you listen to podcasts? He says, yeah, if I get bored every once in a while, I'll listen to Barstool. Sports.

Yes.

Might be in the Trump jury pool later on. There was an Upper east side resident, a native New Yorker and investment banker at KPMG, lives with his fiance, works at a nonprofit. He's another sports podcast guy he listens to. Pardon my take.

Yes.

Which got a nice from a reporter that was sitting in the courtroom.

Holy shit.

We might get some fellas installed on the Trump jury right now.

That rocks. Yeah, they just basically were asking this question for anyone who answers. The daily.

Yeah, the daily. Out of here.

You're gone.

See ya.

You're gone.

See ya.

That's awesome. Yeah, so that guy.

Shout out those guys that are in the pool. I hope you guys get selected.

Really scary thing to think of anyone who's listening to this right now, deciding anyone's fate in a juror.

Yeah, will.

Will the former president go to jail? Well, his fate is in the hands of a guy that listens to us, pretend to know what we're talking about, and just bought a turtle to gamble on sports.

A guy who basically was like, clear my schedule. Mister Pear's about to be unveiled.

Yeah, I can't I can't make jury this morning. I gotta see who he's got in the. In the play in game.

Oh, I love it.

Yes, we might. We might have some friends in very high places right now.

Yes.

Like it. All right. My hot seat is the Chicago White Sox. So we have a strategy. Betting against the A's. It's been mixed reviews. They did lose by two runs the other night, on Monday night.

I am a fucking idiot because this weekend I tried to bet on, bet against the Athletics. I put the bet in for the next day's game, for the following day's game, which was also listed on the odds that I could put down on. They ended up losing that game by a lot. That would have been a rare win for us in the past week. I missed out on that money and then yesterday. I don't want to blame Stephen Chae.

Yes, we can.

I don't want to blame Stephen.

He's in charge of telling.

But it's Stephen Shay's fault. And he didn't tell us to bet against the Athletics, and I didn't get the bet in. And the athletics end up losing by two runs.

Yes.

That's another. I guess it's a total of.

Units that you need back.

Yeah, units that I need.

That's the exact way it's.

It's multiple units that I need back. And so I'm over two on the last games that we should have won. Yeah, the system.

So the thing is with the betting against the A's, it was because of that fuck face John Fisher. Fuck him. And also we thought they'd be really bad. We should have picked the White Sox. The White Sox are so, so bad. And Jerry Reinsdorf, also a fuckface.

Yeah.

Going to be. If the Bulls win on Wednesday night, going to be like, look, see, we got to the second level of the playing game another year in a row. But the White Sox, I have some stats from you. This from Jkuda, who's great twitter follower. He also is a White Sox fan. Number of times the Braves have been shut out in the last 430 days. Two number of times the White Sox have been shut out in the last 430 hours. Six in baseball history, two teams have been shut out at least six times in their 1st 16 games. The 1907 Brooklyn Superbaz. Huh? They were the before the Dodgers and the 2024 Chicago White Sox. We also have this stat that hold on. Games won since opening day. Yukon men's huskies for Chicago White Sox. Two.

It's.

It's just bad.

It just keeps getting worse and worse.

And worse and worse. They are on page for the 2003 Tigers that end up winning 43 games. And here's the last one. Number of days Pedro Griffall has been manager of the White Sox. If you remember, we talked about it last week that Jerry Rein Zoroff didn't want to fire him because he wanted to let his contract run out a little more.

So.

Number of days he has been the manager of the White Sox. 531. Number of days he has had a winning record one opening day last year.

Yeah, it's bad.

Things are bad on the south side. They don't know where they're going to play in the future, too.

Right?

They're looking for a new stadium.

Jerry Rice is doing the John Fisher thing. He's being a fucking dickhead somehow.

And this is shocking.

The.

The story of the lady that snuck a gun into the guaranteed rate field and accidentally shot herself in the stomach because she was too fat to be holding a gun in her belly.

Yeah.

That's not the saddest, weirdest story to happen with the White Sox in the last two years.

Speaker one. Yeah.

And listen, I I'm not. I'm not a White Sox fan, but I have a lot of friends, people in my life that root for the White Sox. And I feel bad for them. I'm gonna do something for them that will hurt me, but I'm gonna do it. I always say, honestly, the Chicago White Sox and where they play, guaranteed Ray Field has some of the best food in all of sports. Major league Baseball, everything. Food, beverage, everything. Beers, everything.

S'mores, milkshake.

Way better than Wrigley. Like, world's better than Wrigley. So whenever I tell people I go to white something like, dude, it is. They just do a top class job of it. I'm no longer gonna say that because that's what Jerry reinvest wants you to say.

That is so.

Because he's like, I doesn't matter what happens on the field. We got great food, we got great beer. It's great atmosphere. I can no longer say that I'm gonna stand with White Sox fans. I will no longer plug the fact that going to a game there is actually fun and a great experience. So no more they get dog shit food.

They get nothing out of you.

Nothing. Cause I would. I would be. Would ask, like, dude, I do want that. Not have even close to the same food as the whites.

That milkshake, though, I would let that milkshake do unspeakable things to me. Yeah, it's so good looking.

Yeah.

So White Sox are really down bad, and then my cool throne is golf. Because golf. They did have a bad masters ratings, but it was fun to watch the Masters nonetheless. Golf has. Rory may be going to the lift, so way to go, golf.

He denied it.

Yeah, I know. He.

It was. It was such a classic go, like, live being like, oh, the Masters just happened. This is cool. Everyone's talking about the Masters. Let's just float out that Rory's thing, about $850 million.

Didn't we talk? Was it with Whitney or was it with Riggs? I forget. One of those guys. We said, how much would it rock if Rory just decided to go to the Liv?

Yeah.

After, like, talking all that shit. But it's just impossible. He was Mister PGA Tour for it seemed like forever. He was the spokesperson, but this is.

All lives, entire strategy. Is this now where it's like, oh, some big PGA event happens? Let's just say, oh, tiger woods. Think about taking $1.5 billion. Also, did you read the story about Greg Norman at the Masters?

Yeah, his hand. Dude, his hand is sore. Yeah, because he shook too many hands during the masters.

So he got denied credentials, which there's. Every time this happens, people are like, we don't even know if he actually tried to get credentials. He bought a ticket from. He just bought a ticket online, showed up, said that there were so many people that came up to and said, thank you so much for what you're doing for golf. And then he also. He, like, tried to stare down Rory for a couple holes, like, basically tried to get in his eyesight, and Rory just never acknowledged him. But weird, weird, dude.

I did hear some people saying, like, you could. The microphones picked up. It said, thank you for everything you do online. Thanks for all the content.

Now we do stand with Brooks and his live team. Smash. Separate the art from the artist. Also golfs back because Scotty Scheffler went to a hole in the wall dive bar when he landed in Dallas. That was cool.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Just like us and people like, whoa, he want to be with his wife. His wife's probably sleeping.

Yeah.

Also, I. Oh, they also. They clown Tony around him. The PGA Tour. Did they like, yeah, he woke up in the morning because, obviously, his wife's pregnant, she's sleeping in, and he made himself his own breakfast. And the Instagram caption was chef Scheffler. Ooh, big time clown Tony O'Brien.

Nice. Nice.

It's literally in his last name.

He was wearing the same outfit that he won the masters in at this bar, which was very cool. I also was looking back, and I'm going to. I'm going to retract something with Scotty. I was like, I need this baby to come soon so that he doesn't get all this credit for being, you know, this awesome dude that I'm going to leave. I think that he was forced into saying that he was going to leave. He just said his wife was pregnant. And then media members asked if he would leave if she went into labor. He never was. Like, she's imminent for labor.

He didn't have that plan.

Right. He wasn't like, oh, she could have a baby at any time.

Yeah.

The reporters kept on saying, if, hypothetically, she had a baby. So Scotty's off the hook. Great, dude. All right, good. Yeah, I stand with Scotty.

We like Scotty.

Like, you know how that can happen, where he gets duped, where people are like, well, like, his wife could be three months pregnant, and reporters would say that, like, what if she has the baby? He's got to answer it one way.

He didn't have that discussion with his wife before talking about.

Right.

He was boxed into a corner where it's like, she's probably not gonna have the baby. Why are you bringing this up?

Okay.

If you ask me this question directly, I guess I have to say I'd leave.

Yeah.

By the way, I did just look it up. Charlotte, the pregnant stingray.

Yeah.

By the way, pregnant air quotes in North Carolina still has not given birth. Now they're doing a bait and switch news story. Now the story is she's regrowing her drop tail barb that she lost. Isn't she crazy? So now it's just, oh, we're supposed to forget about the pregnancy because she's apparently re sprouting limbs? This. This stinks to high heaven. I don't think. I don't think this bitch is pregnant.

Okay.

And guy who's listening, who's about to walk back into the Trump trial, you can now go now that you have this Charlotte up.

Yeah, the Charlotte that. That bitch ain't pregnant.

I just love the idea of that guy just.

Yeah.

Just sitting there, this high stakes moment, and we're just updating on Charlotte and Scotty Scheffler to die.

Scotty Scheffler drank beers.

Drake beers news story that looked actually like a lot of fun. Like, imagine being at that dive bar and just sitting there on a Sunday night and the masters champ walks in.

Yeah.

I mean, if I was Scotty, I would. I would just live in dive bars for the rest of my life.

So.

Awesome.

I would just wear the green jacket everywhere.

Yeah.

But you probably get a phone call from Augusta. If you're wearing it in, like, an establishment they don't approve of, you only.

Get to keep it for a year.

Yeah.

You only get to keep it for.

A year, and then they keep it at Augusta.

Yeah.

Sergio or John Rahm talked about that, how he had it in his closet, and he was saying he kind of wishes he wore it more because he has to give it back.

Yeah. Yeah.

But Scotty off the hook. Hopefully, we get Scotty on sometime. We stand with Scotty. That was. He was duped by the media.

Mm hmm.

My apologies for falling for their tricks.

So my apologies as a member of the media.

Yeah, the media will.

The media makes us look bad as.

Members of the media.

Like, the media right now has been saying that Hank didn't do his taxes. Bullshit. Fake bullshit.

Bullshit.

They're saying Max stuffed his face with food.

Bullshit.

That did happen.

Did Tom for Nelli do his taxes? Hank? Probably.

Probably.

Okay. Jury rush.

All right, Jake, my hot seat is international basketball teams. We talked about it with Blake Griffin coming up, but the USA announced its Olympic roster for 2024 in Paris, and it is stunning. Stacked.

Yeah.

They're looking to win every game by 50.

I am predicting that the United States will win a gold medal in basketball this year.

Stuff.

I ran all the analytics.

Tatum, Embiid, Booker, Halliburton, Edwards holiday Adebayo ad, and one open spot.

There's just one ball, maybe for a.

Guy, Blake Griffin, who's coming up. Yeah, I. We have squashed the beef with Zach Eadie because he didn't make any nil money, and he was an all time college basketball player. I really want to play Canada. Just fucking.

Just dunk on him.

Yam on him. Canada's got a good team.

Is that Ed?

Is he on Canada?

Yeah. Okay.

It's like shake, Shay Gilgis, Andrew Wiggins, Lou RJ Barrett, Lou Dort, maybe. What are you gonna say, Max?

We were Ed.

No, I just.

Positive. But Embiid.

Wait, I'm trying to guard.

Embiid is going.

When you saw.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Say, like, we're Ed positive. It sounds like we've got it. You can't get it up. Yeah, we're for yourself.

We're.

I guess saying positive Ed doesn't really help.

We have Ed.

Yeah, we have Ed.

That's what I would say. I was canadian.

Yeah.

Canadians have ed.

Yes.

Correct.

Wait, is, uh. Where is Embiid playing the Olympics?

Yeah, he's on the list for the.

US, which is weird, but. Really?

Yes. Mm hmm.

Ring chase.

Yeah, he.

Because he knows he's never gonna win one medals in the NBA.

Yeah.

Here we go. It's actually a pretty good team. Sga, Jamal Murray, RJ Barrett, Dylan Brooks, Lou Dort, Kelly Olenek, Zach Edie. Decent team.

Yeah.

And then a guy named Thomas. Thomas Scrub. That sucks.

Yeah.

That's awful. That sucks to be the last listed. That's brutal, dude.

Old Tom scrub.

Tom Scrub.

Yeah.

So they've kind of put themselves in a position where if they don't blow every team out.

So why do we have an open spot?

Uh.

I don't know.

Oh, man. Who could it be?

Yeah. Who are they?

Who are they saving it for?

So the potential list I'm looking at from Regs blog is Jared Allen, Paolo Desmond Baines, Scotty Barnes Bridges, Jalen Brown Brunson, Jimmy Butler, Alex Caruso.

Caruso. It's gotta be Caruso. Gotta be Caruso.

Darren Fox.

Paul George needs to be Caruso. So for sure, we gotta get cruiser on this team. Brunson snubbed. Oh, Brunson snubbed. You can't. You can't be doing pro Brunson stuff until we find out who you're playing in the first round. Sucks. Max having. Max having to go against the New York wild.

Nova.

Knicks over Knicks.

I hate that they all play for the Knicks. If they were any other team, they'd.

Be my second favorite team in the NBA. But just brutal.

Jake, your cool throne.

Two cool thrones. One of them quickly plug God. First responders. We have a huge event this weekend on Long Island. FDNY NYPD 50th annual hockey game on Barstool TV Saturday. I believe our cover starts at 04:00 p.m.. Eastern. Can't wait for that. Plus, rough and reality Friday nights.

So who's going to be on the call with you?

So, unfortunately, biz isn't able to make it because we have a NHL playoff conflict. So it'll be me and Colby Armstrong, who does great things on spit and chiclets. He calls games for the Penguins, so he's great. Wit will be in between the benches, I believe. And then, Jeff, I think Dave will be there part of the pregame and intermission. Big how you did that last year.

It's an awesome, awesome event.

Always fights in that game too, which is great.

Oh, yeah.

I can't wait to call him. It's gonna be awesome.

Yeah.

Any rumors to the truth that. That biz was afraid because he. He can't spell NYPD?

I believe that's false.

Okay. All right.

I read that online, but that's the me. That's the media.

Any truth to the rumor that Biz is missing because will Compton scheduled this for him?

I don't think that's true either.

Okay. No, Biz has the hockey players starting.

Yeah.

It's understandable.

Yeah. TNT. Yes.

So that is a cool throne with rough and rowdy. Big guy will be there. And then my other cool thrones, John Sterling.

Yeah, retired.

Retired out of the balloon.

That's a weird time to retire, right?

I think he just, like, was like, all right, I got it. One more time. And then two weeks, and he's like, I guess not.

He said, I read a interview he did with Jimmy Tran where he was basically, like, I really wanted to retire to start the season. I kind of convinced myself I could keep doing it, and I can't. Goes out on top.

Yeah.

No, on his own terms. No, Jake, he's.

I mean, he did this for 64 years.

Legend. But legend it might. I mean, the Stantonian.

They say, like.

That'S way out of here, and that is gone. The stento. And then he's just said, wait, what happened? What did I do wrong? He is a legend, though.

I mean, the legend.

Radio base. Baseball and radio is just the best. So whenever you lose a baseball announcer for radio, it does hurt.

Yeah.

Those voices become part of your childhood, growing in.

It's the summer. The boys of summer.

Right?

You look. I've seen a lot of guys say it, and. And girls, the big reason why you get into the business is because you like what you see from the guys and girls you listen to.

Mm hmm.

So what is he doing? One last game?

No, it's. It.

He pulled the plug. They're honoring him Saturday.

Oh, wow.

His last home run was a stantonian grand slam.

Oh, wow.

It's fitting at the stadium.

Susan Waldman staying?

She's around, yeah.

Oh, good, good.

That's basically all the dramatic things.

George's box.

Roger Clemens is in Georgia. Have you ever seen anything in all my years? All my years. Oh, my.

Jake, what voice really spoke to you? What voice was like, I need to. I need to have that voice.

I mean, in terms of, like, people or their actual.

No, just a voice.

Huh. Kevin Harlan's got a great voice, but he's got, like, an all time. You can't try to fake a Kevin Harlan voice. It would sound very fake.

Yeah.

It's got to be yourself.

We're gonna say, Hank, you had something to say. You had something say. You want to say something?

I want to say something.

Yeah.

Hank, were you falling asleep during hot sequel throw? No. A couple times.

No.

To see, not off.

Do you have a sleep problem? You did sleep.

I think you've been working out too.

Yes.

We're early.

Yes.

You get sleep addiction?

I was trying to get. I was trying to get Max's attention to put the camera on you during hot sequel throw.

Did he know?

He didn't see me.

Yeah, I wasn't asleep.

Are these things recording even when it's not on him?

Do you know getting up? They are.

So we can review the tape.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, we'll review. Yes, please make a brief clip of Hank falling asleep during hot sea cool throne.

Why are you guys coming at me so hard?

I just had a question.

What is it?

If you fell asleep.

No, I heard the whole thing.

Hank has been coming in early since the time he was up till 1130. That's a fact. I've seen you here very early. He's training to dunk.

Yeah.

Sleep problem. You take to sleep.

No, I haven't been getting any sleep.

Yeah, because you've been thinking about dunking.

And getting up early.

Hank did put a camera in my face about 5 seconds ago, and he was like, do you think I'll be able to dunk by the same?

Yeah.

For the dunkumentary coming out soon?

Oh, fuck, yes. That. I mean, you have to watch a documentary. Okay, let's get to. Speaking of documentaries, let's get to Blake Griffin. He retired from the NBA today. He's been a big part of our show. And we have an awesome interview. Very, very Blake Griffin interview. Stay till the end when we go on a side tangent that it's more.

Of a side quest.

It's a side quest. But it was also perfectly blame if you've listened to the show for a very long time. You know, it was just perfectly Blake Griffin on this show. And Blake is brought to you by our friends at Peloton. Let's talk about peloton. Wherever you're beginning and wherever you want to be. Peloton encourage you to just start. Peloton helps you start no matter what level you're at, whether you're starting. There's thousands of classes to get you moving. I have the bike and the treadmill, whether that's beginner or advanced rides, feel good, live dj rides or even artist theme rides. They've got you covered with peloton. Get started with peloton. Bike. Bike plus rental at ww one. Peloton.com bike slash rentals. Terms apply. That's ww one spelled out. Peloton.com bike slash rentals. Peloton is the best. Get working out. You don't have to go to the gym. You can do it in your own home. And they have people that will get you, kick you into high gear, get you working out. So go right now. One peloton.com bike rentals and get into a peloton today. Okay, here he is, Blake Griffin. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, one of our oldest, dearest friends on pardon my take, he is a six time all star rookie of the year.

But bigger than all of that, he's a two time blake of the year.

Three time.

Right.

Three time blake of the year. Whoo. It is Blake Griffin who has announced his retirement from the game of basketball. Let's start there. You retired. Did you want to throw in a mention to us in the retirement note?

I did, actually. You know, in, like a week, I'm going to start putting out my previous drafts that didn't make the cut. So just be on the lookout for those. It'll be probably in the form of a video or something.

So were you ever like. You ever like, oh, let me sneak in. Right. Right after my parents and brother. Like, hey, if we're talking about people that mean the most to me in my career, it was like.

It was like, you guys are my agent, and I've had the same agent the whole time. And then he, like, he was in a. He was in a mess about it, so I was like, you know what? The guys will understand.

Yeah, yeah, we don't.

Yeah, definitely don't.

Like, we're.

Yeah, I don't know, you guys, I guess, apparently.

Sorry.

Next time I retire from something, you're in there.

Okay. I'd like to.

I'd like to retire from my career potentially being in the NBA right now. I'd like to thank Blake Griffin for showing me that I could play in the NBA, even though I can't dunk.

I two would like. I would also actually like to announce that I'm retiring from not dunking. I will be dunking men's leagues, smaller hoops on my, you know, friends, whoever it is. So I'm unretiring. I'm retiring from not dunking.

Okay, wait.

And I would like to thank PFT and big cat.

Yes. Okay.

I like that. So, wait, are you actually going to play men's league, because that is, I whenever I talk to someone who retires, it's like the coolest thing you could do is just show up to, like, pick up games or men's league games and just fucking dominate.

I don't know. I mean, you never say never, you know? Justin Bieber. I probably. There's a chance I slip into a men's league game here or there.

Yes.

Yes. All right, so maybe I come to.

The Chicago, the new. The new dome and play a little. We play a little pickup basketball.

It would be awesome to see you do one of those videos. I always love it when athletes pretend to go undercover for, you know, some sort of, like, marketing stunt, and they're like, oh, shit, that was Kyrie Irving. I had no idea. If you did it, you're like, 610 going undercover. You could act like you were like an old man on crutches, and then you just go out there, start yamming on people. That would rock.

Yeah, it doesn't work as well when you're playing the sport that you are playing professionally undercover. Yeah, but, you know, but you had.

A great career, obviously, a lot of highs. You've done a lot of cool shit. A lot of cool shit. So congratulations. I think we truly mean that, that, like, you know, this is a good moment for you, and I hope that a lot of people are telling you all the, you know, good memories they have and thanking you for whatever you've done for them. I want to know what your favorite part of your NBA career is, because I have one, and I'm just curious if we had the same one.

I can almost guarantee you it's probably not going to be the same one.

Mine might be the same one. Mine might be the same one as yours, man.

Favorite, favorite part. Probably the. Probably the tunnel debacle.

Oh, yeah.

Put the Rockets, you know, they buried, they dug deep, they came, they popped up into our locker room. Like the looney Tunes situation. Yeah, popped up. And, you know, we were there, that we were there to meet him. We held our ground.

Yeah.

I appreciate. What's your favorite? Because I have a favorite as well.

Mine was going to be when you. When you dumped that glass of water on the fan to, like, say, oh, what's going on on the video board, and you just doused him with water.

That rocked.

What do you mean? Pretending?

You were pretending to be like, oh, what's going on? And then you threw the water on him.

Yeah.

That was unfortunate, man. Unfortunately, the fan, he was happening to be a Warriors fan, but actually, I actually know him. He's a nice guy, and we've reminisced about it.

Yeah.

My favorite moment from your NBA career is when you made $258 million.

Oh, man. Was that it?

That's a pretty cool moment, right?

Uh, yeah, it's pretty cool. I guess, you know, growing up, didn't ever imagine that was. That would be a possibility, so that was pretty cool.

Yeah.

So, all right, so what's today like, though? Because it is.

I.

We were talking before. I mean, I'm sure you're just getting texts from everyone, and it probably was like, oh, I didn't want to get this many text messages today, but is it, like, have you had a moment to be like, this is pretty cool that this many people are reaching out and, like, care about me and appreciate my career?

Yeah, I mean, definitely, you know, it's been 3 hours. I kind of just, like, I've responded to some, you know, people that I know, but it's been pretty cool, man. It's cool to see teammates, older, old teammates, guys that are still playing. All my friends and family. I mean, you know, when you, when you play this long and, like, it's been a, been a career, like, a lot of people are affected by that. You know, your friends, your family. You can't go to stuff. I've missed weddings. I've missed, you know, a whole bunch of stuff. So it's cool to, like, sort of put that. Put that in the past, you know, actually, you know, I didn't know how it was going to feel, but it is nice, man. It's. I was. I was ready to be done.

Yeah.

So, wait, so there.

Was there any.

Because when we had Peyton Pritchard and.

Derek White in here, they said they begged you to come back. Was there any part of you this year where you're like, maybe I can just get on a team for the playoffs, be, you know, give some. Give a couple minutes here, like.

Or were you just.

I'm done.

I kind of left it open for a while. I did have sort of a, I guess a standing offer to go back to Boston. And I remember, like, December, like, end of December hit, and I called Brad Stevens and I was like, man, I really appreciate. I had communication with him the whole time, and I just, I wasn't. I wasn't there, man. Like, I just, I don't know, something changed, and I knew, like, when something changed like that, like, it was time to be done. And I told him, you know, like, I think it was, like, into December and then I kind of, like, waited around. Honestly, I just kind of was enjoying life a little bit and, you know, finally decided to put it out there. But, yeah, I mean, if I go. If I. If I had gone anywhere, I would have gone back to Boston. I love those guys, and I'm pulling for them, and they got a great shot, but it was just time for me to be done. I don't think that I would have been, like. I wouldn't have been able to give what I should give to a team, you know, if my heart, like, truly wasn't in it, you know?

That's got to be awesome, though, to know that you retired while someone was still wanting you to be on the team. Like, that's a good way to go.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's nice to sort of retire someone on your own terms, you know, and not, you know, like, be begging the whole season, but super appreciative of Boston and those guys, Brad and all those guys. But it was time.

Yeah.

So, what is actually next for you? Because you. We have a feeling that you're coming after our job in some shape or form.

Well, you're coming after our job in podcasting. You're probably coming after Hank's job in golfing.

Yeah, I'm pretty serious about my golf game. Hopefully, big strides this summer. I think I'm going to play in that Tahoe tournament, so, you know, didn't get a championship in basketball, so hopefully, I get a. Get a meaningless championship at a celebrity golf tournament.

That counts.

Yeah.

Yeah, it does count.

Um.

I don't know, man. You know, podcasting, maybe only fans, maybe, you know, maybe. Maybe start coaching a G league team. Get into a fight. Get fired. Try to become a GM. Get fired.

I like that.

Start a podcast, get fired.

Yeah, no, that sounds like Blake Griffin. Gets fired would be a great reality. See how many jobs you can get canned from.

Yeah.

Wait, I know what does.

Wake up, Menci.

Yeah.

Fired. What's your.

What's your.

What's your handicap right now?

It's about ten something right now. 1111. One, I think, right now. But, you know. Oh, we're working on it.

You still suck.

Yeah, I'm not good at all. It's been, like, two, you know, almost three years now, and I was like, I think it was a 15 beginning of last summer, and I've just been grinding. Hey, I don't want to admit how. How much I practice golf now, but, um, I love it. It's like. It's a. It's a huge, like, stress reliever.

Yeah.

But that's actually good that you're a ten handicap, because if you retired and you were scratched, it's like, what do you. What do you have to do now?

Yeah.

I mean, like. Like, I feel like all the scratch golfer. Most of the scratch golfers I know are miserable.

Yeah.

They're just like, unless you shoot under par, you're. You're not. You didn't do well. Yeah, I can go out there. I can shoot 95. Still had a great day.

Yeah.

If you see somebody that tells you that they're scratch and you're right, if they don't shoot par, then you're like, that guy's bullshitting me. He's not really scratch. They don't understand how, like, the. The system works. Also, we've been. I think we said this to Brooks Koepka when he was on the show one time. I think we have more fun playing golf than Brooks Koepka or somebody at that level does, because when you hit a good shot out of nowhere, you're like, holy shit.

Golf is awesome. That was great.

And for them, they hit one bad shot around, and they're like, I fucking suck. So we're actually. Yeah, we're doing it the right way.

I mean, you saw guys, like, come. Every. Every tournament, the guys are coming down the stretch, and they, like, put one in the water. Denny McCarthy the other day, or the two tournaments ago, had an unbelievable bag nine. Record breaking bag nine. Sorry. Don't mean to pile on here, but he. And then puts one in the water, and everybody's like, oh, that sucks. I put one in the water. I'm like, got one in my pocket, actually.

You're like, I didn't see that go in.

Yeah.

Didn't that bounce out?

Yeah, yeah, Oberg, when. When Oberg was playing so well, and, yeah, Scotty beats the shit out of him, and then he's like, damn it, I just lost a masters, potentially. It's like, dude, you played.

You.

You hit, like, 100 great shots this week, and that would be enough for my entire lifetime.

Yeah. Yeah.

I can't wait to hit 100 good ones.

Have you played Augusta?

No.

Oh, you got to play it before, Hank. Shouldn't be hard.

All right. That's my new goal.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you have.

Do you have, like, a list of things you want to do? I feel like when everybody retires, they're like, okay, here's five goals that I have for myself.

Yeah, it's mostly, like, travel stuff. Like, there's just, like, not a lot of places I've been able to go, you know, just cause our off season was so short. I want to do Australia, but in their summer. You know, all the places that are summer during our winter.

Yeah.

To go to. I checked the box off on skiing. Skied first time.

That's. That had to look weird.

Yeah. I mean, also, you know, I don't know if you guys know this, but my knee history hasn't been great. So that was a huge concern. I was like, literally, I took a lesson and I'm just get on the bunny slope and there's legitimately, like six five year olds getting lessons. And it's just me just like, just going so much slower than them. But we gotta hang out. We got the hang of it.

The tallest man on skis. What about visiting beautiful Chicago and hanging out with us here? That's got to be on the list.

Yeah, that's on the list as well. You know, I hear it's beautiful this time, time of year. Or maybe in a month or two. Yeah. So, you know, I'll let you guys know when I pop by. It'll be fun.

I want you to dunk on Max so bad.

Yeah. Yeah. There's, um, there's a. There's a few things I want to do. That's. That's one of them. That's close to the top of the list. Sorry, Matt.

No, you have to dunk on him.

Yes. Yeah.

Like just any Philly fan.

Yeah. Right.

You want to.

You might not be able to jump.

Over a kia anymore, but Max, how tall are you? Six foot.

Six foot.

We'll say six one, six flat. He's six, 6ft tall. Could you jump over Max?

Yeah, I think so. It's like a mid size, mid sized sedan.

Yeah.

Yeah, that works.

Yeah.

Just come to Chicago, teabag max.

Yeah, that'd be perfect. All right. So your retirement letter.

Yeah. Well, no, no, it wasn't a letter.

Well, it's kind of a letter.

It was a non letter.

It was a non letter letter.

It was a non letter letter.

What part of it are you gonna look back in, like, two days and be like, man, I wish I hadn't written that?

I mean, hopefully none of it. I don't know. Was it bad?

No, it's good. But you, it felt like you didn't want to write it and you were forced to write it because it's like, that's what guys got to do. They got to write it like you're, you know, you even said it in it. You're like, I never envisioned myself as the guy who had to write one of these.

Yeah, well, I just. I just felt like I would do it a different way. I don't. I don't. I don't think I'll regret any part of it. I think I. My message that I just wanted to get across was, like, I am thankful, even for, like, the shitty moments. That's, like, what make the ups and downs of, like, the season, the ups and downs of a career, the ups and downs of life. That's, like, what makes it all worth it. I was trying. Trying to be sincere with, like, a little bit of. A little bit of levity, but I don't know. I felt pretty good about it, honestly. I just wanted to just get it out there and be done with it.

I mean, the correct answer was the part that you didn't mention us, but.

Oh, yeah, but I said I was gonna. I was gonna. There's. There's, like, a part two to the.

Retirement that would have turned it into a letter.

Being part. Yeah. Being part two of a letter is actually cooler than being part one of a letter.

Yeah.

Yeah, because it's, like, the P's part is, like, the part that everybody remembers because it's just, like, the last thing they read, so, you know, true. I'll put something together real nice for you guys.

Have you.

Have you spent any time online today looking what people are saying about you?

No, I have not.

You should do that. I sincerely mean that, because, like, all the things that people are saying. I searched for Blake Griffin on Twitter, and I just get to watch highlight reels of your best dunks. You should do that. You should treat yourself and just be like, yeah, I was pretty fucking awesome at dunking the ball.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, maybe I will. It's fun to. Fun to relive it from a different perspective, I guess.

Who's. Who's. Who were you teabagging in this? Nick's dunk. Oh, man.

Oh.

Timothy Mozgob. Oh, man.

Yes. That was brother.

Yeah. You have.

Do you have a favorite dunk over the entire course of your career?

That was one of them. I remember, like, the Nick, that Knicks game, I had, like, three dunks that I felt like were. Were, like. I don't know, after that game. I've said this before, but, like, after that game, like, I think I went home and I woke up the next morning, and. And I feel like my life, like, never changed after that game. So, like, it holds, like, a special moment, you know, to me that it was just, like, everything just kind of just, like, just took off.

Yeah.

Are you gonna. Are you gonna be an actor? Because I feel like you would be an awesome actor.

I've got a couple things lined up that I can't really talk about yet, but not. Not, like, not as maybe a little bit. I got a couple things that I'm pretty excited about, kind of at the intersection of sports and comedy, I guess, a little bit, so.

Well, I mean, like, we. We've known you for a long time. I think, like, there are athlete funny where a guy can, like, do a quote, and it's like, oh, he's funny? Because we don't see an athlete do those. You're legitimately funny, and I would love to see you. I even saw you in that commercial. You fucking crushed. That commercial was a super commercial. The ones where you were doing a bunch of stuff in the kitchen.

Oh, the daily harvest one.

Yeah. I was like, this is. This was great. Like, I want to watch more, Blake.

I only, like. When I started doing endorsement deals and, like, how to do commercials, I asked, like, early on, I was like, I only want to do something fun. I only want to do, like, a comedy commercial, you know, like, something that's funny. And then over the course of time, like, it just worked out because, you know, I think brands and people, like, enjoyed that a little bit more than, like, the typical. Like, you know, every day I wake up and train.

Yeah.

And you know what I put into the game? Like, get out of the game, and nothing wrong with those, but, like, I just, like, never wanted to do that.

There's.

It's so fun to, like, try to think of funny things and execute. So that's kind of what I'll be doing.

It would rock it a teaser.

It would also rock if you ended up, like Shaq, where your face is on every product known to man. Like, you're selling printers and Best Buy.

Yeah, that'd be fun.

Just. But just, like, everything Shaq does. But just, like, the competitor. Like, Ben gay. Whatever the competitive general insurance is.

Yeah.

Hewlett Packard printers.

Yeah.

Go one on one with Shaq.

Yeah.

What? Who's your favorite teammate that we wouldn't know, either. You can maybe don't do, like, us, like, a. Someone that's, like, a perennial all star, someone famous, but, like, someone. Some guy that's, like, give him his flowers.

Like.

Yeah, no one knows. This guy was the best.

I love. Like I've said. I mean. I mean, Jamal Crawford's the name. Everybody knows that name, right. But he's the best yeah. One of my young boys. Love Bruce Brown, man. Awesome dude.

Yep.

Love Lamar Odom was awesome. Like, an awesome dude, awesome teammate. Just, like, so caring, so kind. I could of name so many guys. I've had some awesome teammates. I don't want to leave anybody off the list, but those guys are great.

Yeah.

And then what are you going to miss?

Are you going to miss the guys.

In the locker room? You got to say that.

You know what I think I'm going to miss the most? Is those little times in the locker room. The bus rides, the camaraderie. No, I really will. I mean, everybody, like, every. Every teammate I remember, like, you know, guys would retire and I talked to them, and everybody mentions, like, that's what they miss. I will miss, like, playing basketball a little bit. You know, sometimes I'll watch games. I'll be like. I mean, it'd be fun to be out there, but also, like, you know, into my career, I was only out there half the time, not that many minutes. So, you know, it's. It's when, like, your favorite thing to do is play basketball, and, like, you're. You're not doing that all the time. You're not doing it at a level you're used to. It's like, it's probably time.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

But I will miss. I will miss, like, those. Those conversations, like, the. I told some of the guys on Boston, too. I'm not just gonna sign before the playoffs. Cause, like, part of, like, growing together as a team, like, through a season is, like, you go through all, like, training camp. You go through all that shit of, like, road trips that are miserable, losing streaks, like, bad games, whatever it is, and, like, you sort of, like, grow together and you have that kindred spirit. So, like, for me, it was like, I don't want to just jump on a roster and, like, at the end of the season and try to win a championship. Like, part of the joy is, like, being there from the beginning.

Yeah, that makes sense.

You could get that same kind of locker room environment if you were to do, like, the NBA show on TNT.

Have they talked to you about that?

I feel like you would.

You would be the one guy that I feel like would fit in with Shaq, Kenny Charles, the whole crew.

I don't know, man. I've had some conversations about doing some. Some. The. What's it? Studio stuff, some broadcasting stuff. It's just like, I don't know, talking basketball is fun and something. I know, but, like, I don't know. I just kind of want to do something a little bit more broad than that. So never say never again. But, you know, those guys are great. I think they have a good formula, and I think I want to try to try to forge my own path a little bit.

All right.

Yeah, I respect that.

I noticed. Actually, let me ask you this way. Who is your favorite owner that you've played for who had to sell the team?

Oh, man. Favorite owner that had to sell the team. Gotta be de st. Got a bad rap. Got a really bad rap. But Jesus, was he a sweetheart. You know, once you got past the racism and the bigotry and, you know, dude, I mean, talk about misunderstood.

Yeah, I know.

I noticed he wasn't included in the. Thank you.

Yeah.

Part three.

Part three.

Yeah.

Whatever you do, if you. If you do a part two, we. We don't want to be on the same thank you as Donald Sterling.

Yeah, actually, we can. You can throw us in there.

Did have the best testimony of all time.

Yeah. Sir.

Sir, I asked if that was your handwriting.

Big magic Johnson.

Miss D stir, man. Miss D Stir.

All right, so who's your favorite owner that made all his money in a software company? Company.

Oh, man. I think. Yeah, there was a minority owner for the pistons who had a tech startup.

Love that.

Yeah, he was great. I don't want to say his name, but he was great.

That's huge. I know who you're talking about. That guy Ross. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was a good answer.

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Ooh.

Oh, man. Dude, Boston last year, like, we. That's what's crazy about Boston this year is, Boston's better this year than we were last year. I would. I would have said Boston last year, or obviously, one of the lob city teams. I mean, our nets team, like, we were super talented, but there was just, like, something missing, obviously. Like, you know, we got. I think if we had beat Milwaukee game seven, like, we had a great chance to win a championship, but I don't know. I mean, I was super fortunate, man. Some of those clipper teams, man, we had. We won, like, 20 straight games one year and just felt like we were just, like, on a roll. And then, you know, for whatever reason, we just always. Injuries or just. Just mental lapses.

Yeah.

That didn't get us there.

But I was at that game. The game seven against Milwaukee. The KD, foot on the line. You. That series, you were just fucking all over the place. You were just like. You were the energy, everything. Just fucking guarding everyone.

You know, sometimes the old dogs got to learn a few new tricks.

Yeah.

I just remember because you guys had so many injuries, and it was just like, blake is just doing literally anything that's asked for him, and it's everything.

Yeah.

It was like, katie was just, like, scoring 50, and then we were just trying to put, like, plug gaps. Like, there's just, like, a new leak, and we're like, no, go get that. Go get that plug. That one. It was a fun series. It sucks that we lost, but it was a. It was. It was fun because, like, on every team of my career, I just. I sort of played, like, a very different role.

Yeah.

Which was kind of fun. It just kind of brings your career, kind of gives you that. That full, full spectrum.

Yeah.

And the Pistons have not been the same since you left. That's a fact.

You know, they got some good young talent.

Yeah.

Getting a new president soon, and, you know, things are. Things you're looking up.

I remember that, that Pistons year where you took them to the playoffs and you had, like, before one of the games, I've never seen anyone have their knees wrapped more, and you just still had the offensive.

Yeah. The offensive lineman brace.

Yeah.

And you're, like, even before the game, you had all the towels and everything, and you just went out there and just gave everything and just was a warrior for them.

Yeah. That was fun. And then, you know, I do. I get. I get some. I get some. Some. Some nice love from Pistons fans. I think maybe the majority probably hate me, but tell you what, I gave it a. Quite literally almost tried to give it my all.

Yeah.

Well, Hank. Hank just stepped in here. Hank, do you have any Celtics questions? He said the one of the best teams he played on was last year Celtics. And they're better this year. Not because Blake's not on it, maybe. No question.

That's all I needed to hear.

That's all you needed to hear. Hank's very nervous about this. I'm not nervous.

I'm excited.

I mean, dude, they're. They got to stay healthy. But, like, I mean, Joe. Joe Missoula's a year, like, a year under. He's.

He's.

He. I think he's, like, more comfortable now. JTJ, it just feels like they just have pieces that all work, and they're so good. They're so good.

Yeah.

Hank's nodding. He's poured his entire self worth into this bit, into this Celtics postseason.

Yeah. I mean, you know, sounds like just like a die hard sports fan.

Yeah, I heard. Sports fan.

Has anybody started the Blake Griffin for Hall of Fame conversation? Oh, can we be the first?

We'll do it.

Yeah.

If you guys want to. I'm sure.

I think it's no brainer. I think it's first ballot.

Thanks, man.

I appreciate it. I don't know, though. You never know. Sometimes you see guys like, oh, they got not like, who was it this year, Chauncey? I mean, that's a hall of famer right there. Vince Carter, hall of Famer. And then you look, you try to go look and see, like, what guys accomplished. What, like awards. Obviously, winning a championship helps, but I don't know. I honestly am not going to spend too much time thinking about it.

I've won. I have one question, Blake.

Yeah.

One. One mulligan for your career. One shot. If you could have one single shot back and take it again, what would that shot be like?

An actual shot?

Yeah.

There was, like, moments, like with the Clippers.

I don't know.

I mean, there was. There was. There. There was. I don't know. That's a great question.

Great question.

There's probably the series against. The series against. We went, went up three one on Houston. They came back and won. There was a point in game six at home where we were up, and then, you know, they came back. There was like, there was. There was moments where I, like, you know, had a. Had a missed shot that, like, you never know. Like, with four minutes left, a made shot could just completely deflate them. So it's probably in that series somewhere. I don't know exactly a shot, but I'm necessarily a game winner.

Yeah.

Do you think that you retiring at this time can take your name officially off the list for the Olympic team, for that open roster spot that they're keeping?

I said I was retiring from the.

NBA, not the Olympics, skip.

Like a gold medal.

Ooh.

Yeah. No, I mean, listen, I. I don't know. Never say never.

Yeah.

Kind of the theme for me today.

Did David Duke reach out to you today?

Junior? The one that. The basketball player.

The basketball player.

Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Was there another David Duke that reached out to you?

I don't know. When I first met him, I walked up and I go, hey, man, big fan. I don't know if he got it, but obviously it's.

Yeah, it was a joke. Yeah, it's very much a joke.

I think there's maybe a message. Message here from him somewhere.

Junior.

David Junior.

The financier.

What? Jeffrey, who's your favorite point guard you played with?

Oh, man. Gotta be CP. Yeah, gotta be CP.

Yeah. Yeah.

He's like, you know, kind of. He, like, as a young player came. He was there my second year. Taught me. He, like, taught me how to. Taught us as a team, like, how to. How to, like, will a victory.

Yeah.

It's his thing.

Yeah.

All right, wait, I have. I have another basketball question for you. Kyrie Irving is beloved in the NBA by all the players. Is it just because he's so goddamn good at basketball?

Like, are when you.

When you play with him or practice with him, you just, like, he does things that we all wish we could do.

Yeah.

I mean, like, a perfect example is the left handed, running, pushing floater that he hit over Jokic.

Yeah.

In the game. This, like, it's just like a shot where he does that and you're not, like, like, lucky. It's just like, he shoots it and you just expect to go in. Also, like, the way he, like, hangs it, like, the things he can do are, like, I think he's the most talented basketball player in the NBA, maybe still.

Yeah.

It's a weird thing to say because, like, you know, there's so many talented guys, but the things he does at his, like, stature and, like, he's not, like, crazy athletic. He's athletic, but he's not crazy athletic. It's. It's like, it's pretty mind blowing what he does.

Yeah.

Because it's always so funny whenever he's in the news, for whatever reason, but then his teammates always have his back and you just. You realize, like, they probably just watch him and they're like, that guy can do all these things that help us win and are so incredible that, like, no one else in the world could do that stuff.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he makes shots. I've seen him make. Even in practice, I've seen him make shots that you're just. It just, like, leaves you just kind of, like, scratching your head and, like, an NBA practice, like, you're playing five on five. Like, guys are hitting crazy shots. It's not quite the game, like a game setting. So guys are trying stuff. Guys are doing stuff. So you see some crazy stuff. And he probably has, like, three of the top five things that. Craziest things I've seen in practice of all time.

Yeah. Yeah.

Just the way that he. He puts the exact right amount of spin on the ball as he's coming down from the peak of his jump, like, in the paint and getting a layup around somebody that's like 7ft tall and he's the ball off the backboard and in.

Yeah.

And also, he's going the opposite way, or, like, he's facing the opposite way and still spins and still, like, it's like. It's pretty nuts to be, like, that. Talented at controlling a basketball.

Yeah.

One of the craziest, like, in person basketball performance that I ever saw was. Remember we went to that game? It was Cavs, Celtics in, like, what, 2016? And he scored, like, 18 straight, and it was just like, what? Like, it just every type of shot, and you're just like, what is going on here? Like, no one can even come close to touching him.

He's a great. He's a great player, and I think. I would think he's. He's misunderstood. He's definitely. He's definitely misunderstood.

Yeah.

But you know what?

Not to. It is your retirement, so not to make it about us, but do you think we'll ever get Kevin Durant on this podcast?

Yeah.

Perfect.

Another guy's misunderstood.

Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know that. I don't know how many podcasts he does. Does he do. Does he do a lot of podcasts?

I think he probably listens to a lot of podcasts.

Yeah.

He leaves me on scene on instagram all the time. Always hurts my feelings.

Yeah. I mean, listen. Never say never.

Never say never. Never say never.

Solid.

Maybe we never, you know, you never.

There was probably a day when you were like, you know, growing up, you're like, will I ever make $258 million? Like, never say never.

No, never say.

Yeah.

Never say never. That's what I said as a kid. I said, never say never.

258. Exactly.

Yeah. It's weird that I worked. I've written down, actually.

Yeah, yeah.

A lot of kids say never. You'd be surprised.

Yeah.

So want to talk real quick about Missoula, because we're fascinated with him as a coach and especially his love of the movie the town. You. You know that he loves the town, right? Like, would he always bring it up, like, constantly?

No, that wasn't even really one. I think he did. He definitely did bring it up once. All the coaches last year had shirts that said, whose car are we gonna take? So that was, like, definitely, like, their. Their. Their thing. I did know. I love the town. I don't. I don't remember him, like, mentioning it multiple times. Like, maybe once. But that's just who he is, man. He's like. He's like, what you see in, like, press conferences, and, like, you see him, like, try to block a guy's shot. Like, that's how he think. Like, that's not, like, he's not putting on a. Like, a character.

Yeah.

You know, he's not, like, playing that up. Like, that's who he is. So, like. And I think that's one of the most important things about head coaches is authenticity. Like, guys can sniff through it immediately, you know, even if it's not your style. Like, guys can sniff through, you know, somebody who's in unauthentic, and that's just who he is. So I think that's why he's gonna be a great coach.

Did you know that he was getting choked out that he would have his. His jujitsu guy come over and just make him pass out for a little bit?

I didn't. I. We didn't. We didn't touch on that, but I did. I have seen him. I have seen him in his GI. No, maybe.

It might be.

Yeah, it might be. I've seen him do that. And then he, like him and, like, Grant, I think Grant Williams. Him and, like, Grant would. Like, they would try to, like, place far. And, I mean, I got. There's no quitting that guy.

Can you name all the Williams you played with?

Oh, boy. Robert Williams? Yes, right there. There's a guy named Jamal Williams who was on the Clippers that I played with.

This is a tough question.

Let me think. Williams. Let's go to Detroit. There was no Williams on it. No, there was a. Okay, now this, guys, come on. What are we doing? Robert.

Robert. Mo, Lou Grant. CJ. That's a lot of them. That's a lot of Williams.

CJ Williams.

Yeah.

It's a tunnel.

Williams.

That's a lot of Williams that you play.

Yeah, I mean, listen, for. I was fortunate, you know, fortunate to have a lot of Williams teammates. Great name.

All right, I have one last question. It's a robot question. Rho back.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Cue zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Robec.com. It's actually not a question. I wanted to get a little sentimental for a second and say thank you to you, Blake. You are a very important part of this podcast, and you can't tell the history of, pardon my take without Blake Griffin. I really do sincerely mean it. Like, you coming on, you know, whatever it was six, seven years ago, having.

Fun with us, knowing that we're idiots.

Like, playing with the blake of the year. Like, that's what made it cool was that you were like, you took it seriously. And I just want to thank you. Like, you are you. Our success is.

There's a.

There's a piece of. It is because of you.

I greatly appreciate that. And, yeah, man, I've always had fun. This is like the podcast that you look forward to doing because you never know what's going to happen, but it's awesome. I love you guys. And, yeah, man.

Yeah.

When we retire, you will be in our retirement letter with Donald Sterling.

We'll thank Donald.

We're going to thank Donald Sterling for giving us so much material. And also, Blake rift.

We'll put you right back to back.

I appreciate that, man. Good. Like, like the good old times. Me and Donald Sterling.

Yeah.

You should just see what he's doing. Oh, a little tip.

If you do decide to get into the podcasting game, here's a great question you can ask your guests. So this will be my last question. Blake, if you were to interview yourself on the day that you retired, what question would you ask yourself?

Good question.

Thank you.

Oh, man. I guess, I mean, I would have asked the Williams thing.

Yeah.

I mean, talk about.

Talk about hard hitting questions. Just leave people in a. Just a. Just a pretzel.

We're gonna have to ask every player that comes on the show.

Yeah.

How many Williams did you fire.

Man?

What would I. So what would I ask myself? Yeah.

Yes.

I'm basically getting you to do our interview with you for us.

I would ask.

The Williams answer was good.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess we could just leave it.

We can cut it after.

Yeah.

You actually, you forgot Willie Green, Willie Warren.

Well, no.

Willy Reid.

You guys said Williams. Well, but yes.

Or just know how many Williams.

I think you said Williams.

Yeah. Yeah.

So you forgot about.

Did forget about. Sorry. Sorry. To all the Willys and Williams.

Well, so if anyone asked you this, if you do another show, you just got to simply go. I think I'd ask myself, was it all worth it? And then I'd say, yes.

And then I'd say, yeah. And then you repeat it, and then.

I'd say, yeah, and then I'd say, yes. What's it all I love? I love what everyone, any professional athlete says that, like, was it all worth it?

Yeah.

I mean, I think so. No, you got to play in a professional sports league.

Would I change anything if I had to do it all over again?

Hell no.

Hell no.

I would answer that differently. I'd be like, I'd try to play with a few more williams.

Just.

Yeah. Yeah.

Just to collect a few more williams along the way.

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I could be up there all time.

Oh, yeah.

But you have to go up against guys like Robert Orey, guys that, like, bounced around.

Yeah.

Well, let's look. You know what? Let's look right now. Robert Ori's teammates, you know, see how many. This is why people tune into this podcast.

Robert Ori. I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess 13 Williams is.

Okay, so, Blake, I mean, he may have rings.

Is there a website where you can just type in how many williams?

No, you can just. We should make it so actually.

Yeah, yeah.

12345 Williams, if we're not counting willies. But he had three willies, as well.

Yeah, we're only talking Williams last name.

Okay, so Robert Orey had. Oh, he had hot Rod Williams. Eric Williams. That's two. Robert Orey only had three williams. Holy shit.

Good job, Blake.

Who else could have a lot of Williams? We're gonna trap you into the. Basically the. The lottery all again. The big bug. Let's just see Kobe Bryant.

I think maybe we just end it there.

No, no. Lou Williams, Shman Williams, Sean Williams, Kobe. Only three Williams.

Not everybody can handle being on teams with Williams. I just like. I treated him like everybody else. You know what I mean?

Jake Crowder.

I bet you.

Jake Crowder.

All right, all right. Jake Router.

No, no, no. You know who is ish Smith or Jeff Green?

Oh, Jeff Green.

Jeff Green's a good Jeff Green.

All right, all right.

He might be the all time.

Real quick shout out. Shout out ish and Jeff Green.

All right.

This is big. All right. Jeff Green, Terrence Williams, Nate Williams. Only two Williams Cup.

Jake Crowder.

Holy.

Find somebody that can be.

You might have the record.

What about Lou Williams?

Oh, but you williams attract Williams?

No, I don't think so.

You just play for so many teams.

But, yeah, because how many times did you see L. Williams on the back of his jersey? Nevers another Williams. Then he'd have to be L. Williams, and he was always just Williams on the back.

Yeah.

Jay Crowder. You ready for this?

Uh huh.

Jay Crowder.

Can't just let me have this on my day.

On my day has never played with a William. What?

That's got to be the biggest statistic.

Anomaly in the holy sport. Holy shit.

Feels pretty good. Boy.

Never played with the Williams. How is that possible? Did you guys just have.

Keep this in mind next time we do Blake of the year. You know that to the old resume.

Lou Williams only played with one Williams. No, no, he played with two Williams and himself. Himself, probably with Mars.

I mean, what's his name? Marvin Williams in Atlanta.

This is a whole subset of category, which Williams has played with most.

Williams, this is a perfect way to have your retirement PMT interview go. Where? Just how long? Well, you just sit there and your phone blows up with, like, a bunch. Well, yeah, actually. Did any Williams text you?

Uh uh. Does Instagram messaging count?

Yeah.

Then no.

No, I did.

I'd have to. I'd have to scroll back. You know, I'm getting so many messages, guys.

It's just.

It's hard to keep track right now, so. Yeah, let's just put me down for two Williams messages.

Yeah, I thought I found one guy who has five as well, but I'm not gonna. Well, you know what I could say? Because he's one of your favorite teammates. Jamal Crawford also played with five Williams.

Yeah.

So that's. That's cool. You get to share it with Jamal.

That's great. You know what? That's an honor.

Yeah.

And Jamal will have Jamal on when he retires in, what, ten years from now.

Yeah. You know, didn't he officially.

I think he did. I think he officially.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah.

No, of course he did.

I remember.

Yeah. Also, credit to you for retiring when it wasn't like, oh, I thought he retired a while ago because, you know, your namesake, Blake Bordell's, did do that on this show where he just accidentally retired on this show. So you did a good job with that, because you never want to be the guy who's, like, retiring and everyone's like, oh, shit, didn't he retire, like, ten years ago?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You always leave people wanting more.

Yeah, yeah.

You got to know. Got to know when to exit. Although I'm sure people are like, didn't he retire ten years ago?

No, those people are lazy.

Yeah, that's a.

That's a lazy comment.

Lazy sports fans.

Lazy. I liked. He said, get to know when to exit as we look for the 10th person who has the most Williams as teammates. All right, Blake.

Yeah.

You. You are the best, though. We can't thank you enough.

We do want you to come out.

Chicago and dunk on Max. It would be awesome. One last dunk.

We could call one last dunk. Yeah.

Maybe.

Maybe make a whole documentary about it.

Oh, the last dunk.

Yeah, yeah, one last dunk. We could actually do, like.

We could.

We could have it be like, you.

Start with, you know, we can have.

You dunk over our turtle, Mister Pear. And then, like, go up from there, we have you dunk over a dog.

Mm hmm.

And then it's just.

And then it's.

Max is the one last dunk and just balls in his face.

God, can you imagine if I, like, slipped and kicked the turtle or the dog?

Oh, you can kick me. That's fine.

Yeah, you can, max.

You can kick your tough guy, dude. You'll be fine.

Yeah.

All right, blake, thank you. As always, congratulations on incredible career. We love you. You're always a part of this show and look forward to blake of the year coming up.

Thanks, boys. I appreciate it. As always.

Thank you, blake. And you're not retired from blake of the year.

No.

For the record.

Okay.

Yes.

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Dot okay, it is time. We're going to do listener faqs. But we also have the newest member of pardon my take, ready to be unveiled, is adorable. It's Mister Pear. Mister Pear. Oh, no. Mister Pear.

We gotta take Mister Pear.

Now, for longtime listeners, you know that we had a gambling goldfish. We had a listener faq a few, few weeks ago that sparked the idea in our head to get another goldfish. Like, you know what we've done? Goldfish, they die really quickly, and everyone blames us. Let's get something that's going to live outlive all of us. A turtle. Also, shout out Marcus Paul Awl, who found the tape of when we were actually getting Larry the second in 2017. We were talking about getting Turtles.

Yeah.

So for anyone who says that we took an idea or Jack, we've had this idea for six years. Seven years.

Yeah.

It's been a long time. Long time in the making.

Turtle racing. The first bet I ever won a turtle race in Key West, Florida. $100. So, turtles. Oh, here he comes.

So, it appears that this is a russian tortoise. Oh, is what it is.

I op this russian.

Look how cute he is.

Hank, get in. This was your idea to name Mister Pear boy. Oh, can he fall off this?

Max?

No, he's fine. He's got a shell. But the cool thing is, this is the. The first type of further on the table.

Wait, wait.

Second memes.

Oh, me, by the way.

Memes.

It is memes. Turtle memes. Already? Well, we're all papas, but memes is the number one. Papa. Memes is tasked with keeping Mister pear alive. Memes is also madly in love with Mister Pear after 24 hours.

He's very cute.

He's territorial. Mister Pear. That's my boy.

He likes.

Can he bite?

No, he didn't bite. He's too sweet to bite. Max, Max, put it further on the table. Yeah, no, it's memes.

I got it.

What I was gonna say, this type of tortoise is actually the only type of tortoise to ever go to the moon.

Oh, we're gonna go, pair. You're an astronaut.

So cute.

Oh, no.

Mister Pear, did you forget to unlock.

The door in the Apollo mission? Mister Pear.

Mister Pear already pooped on Max.

Oh, he came on Max. Came on Max.

He came on Max.

Mister Pear, why'd you chew on the nos?

He's very cute, isn't he?

He's so cute.

He's adorable.

All right, so Mister Pears gonna pick the Sixers. Verse heat playing game. This is his first pick.

You know, he's gonna live to be, like, 40.

Yeah, memes was really nice to us when he came out, and he just goes, he's gonna outlive all of us. And I like, what?

Mm hmm.

He's like, yeah, he's gonna live to 50. And so mean. I for me in.

Pft.

I understand, but memes is putting a cap on your life, Hank. At 80, you. Max, it's 77 or whatever you are, Pug. I don't know how old you are.

Yet to factor in dog ears.

Pug.

Whoa. Pick him up.

Pick him up. Memes is very nervous.

He's.

Yep, I'm down, Memes.

He's totally safe.

And put the camera on.

First pick.

Put the camera on so we can see where he goes to pair. And let's do some listener faqs while Mister pair makes a pick. Oh, he's always going.

He's going to the Sixers.

He smells the pair so fast. He did that with some philly guy. Mister pair, you did it. Mister pair, you picked a sixer. Love Philadelphia.

Miss.

Mister Pear, did you know that in Philadelphia, they. Max's dad will put you in a soup and eat you.

No, we can never bring him.

Yeah, no, Max's dad is not allowed anywhere near that. This turtle.

All right, so I'm going to put a responsibly large wave wager on the Sixers right now.

Let's go.

Oh, they're five and a half.

That's fine. They got that. They're basically the best team in the league right now.

Mister pair, let's say five. Five is. -115 we'll go five. Mister Pears pick is Sixers minus five. Responsibly large wager has been put on a Mister Pears first ever pick.

Let's go.

76 ers. Come on, Max. This is now big time pressure for you. Mister Pears first pick.

First question.

Valid question. What steps will be taken to prevent Billy from fucking mister pair?

Oh, wait, by the way, if you're everyone who's watching, watch to watch it. We obviously have Mister pear out right now. You can see him.

He's making his pics live on camera.

He made his pick live on camera, so.

Well, how Billy can't fuck Mister Pearl. I wouldn't put it past Billy to try, but I think he's more of a frog guy.

Yeah, he's not a frog. Mister Bear's not a frog. He's very much turtle. We should get a frog, though.

Yeah, and dress it up all slutty just to taunt Billy.

Yeah.

Who is the most active in the PMT group chat? Who has the funniest messages?

Mmm.

Most active. Memes is surprisingly active for how much he talks. Yeah, I'd say the. The text per word that means actually says is a very high ratio.

Can't you see? Depending on the. How big the bubble is.

Is that what that means?

I think that's recent.

Yes.

So what I'm looking at right now, it's Hank and Max. Or is that memes? Hank and Hank and Max. And memes are our most active. Max has some good one liners on there.

Yeah, I usually am. Only if I'm. If I'm popping in, it's usually just a stir the pot.

Yeah. Mm hmm.

Shane is easily. Shane and pug, they stay off. Yeah, they don't.

They send the Dropbox they don't even like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They don't even like it.

Yeah.

I'd say the person who likes messages the most is Jake.

Oh, by far.

Jake will just hammer the, like, fun everyone.

And I wish you guys luck when you're talking about bets.

Yeah. Yeah.

Actually, that's true. Anytime anything remotely good happens to us, Jake is in there with a congrats.

Yeah.

I hate sometimes we do the. Like, someone's congratulates and you have to.

Oh, I hate it.

I hate it. I have to say, I'm gonna get shit for not saying grass, but I actually don't feel correct.

I agree with you. We got to just stop doing.

All right, I'll stop.

No, no. You can keep doing a Jake, but, Hank, you and I, like.

Yeah.

I just don't want to come in and be like everyone else. I. Congrats.

All right, so you and I will do an alliance. No, congrats.

Yes.

Unless it's a championship. I'll congrats on a championship. But, like, winning, like, a play in game, no. Congrats. Jake. You should keep being you because that's you.

Yeah, that's me.

Yeah, that is you.

How long would you have done the podcast at the start with no success before quitting?

Oh, good question.

Yeah, I don't know.

It was fun.

Like, I think our goal from the start was always just to entertain ourselves, so it probably would have lasted for a little bit. With no success.

Yeah, we didn't really know the success there was. No, I guess, the charts.

Yeah.

And we also did have that when we. When they couldn't really tell actual analytics. And I think it was the first Harbaugh interview, and they're like, 10 million people listen, and we're like, that's not possible.

Yeah.

But I think I said this maybe a couple months ago when PFD and I were. We got to drive back from the Arizona bowl together and was just two of us, and we had a moment. We were like, imagine if this didn't work out. Like, our lives are awesome because of this.

Yeah.

Like, it's directly, obviously, barstool and everything before that and everything after that, but this has been the catalyst for everything else.

Yeah, it is. It's.

It's real.

We do remind ourselves of that from time to time.

Remind myself pretty much every day that whenever I get down, I'm like, but I get to do the best job ever.

Yeah.

When I use my sauna, I'm like, this is. This is the sauna that hot takes built.

Yeah.

Because there's days where I get down on myself, I'm like, but, dude, you fucking have an awesome job.

Actually, the real answer is probably if. If we had gotten fired from ESPN and we didn't have a successful podcast, we probably wouldn't have gone back to our unsuccessful podcast after that.

Yeah.

Although we would have got ESPN if the podcast wasn't successful.

That's true. Which would have been a great success.

Yeah.

I would say a year, it seems right. If we had just been doing a year and like, they're like, yeah, 10,000 people are listening, that probably would have been okay. We gotta do something different.

I know you guys give each other a lot of shit. That's all in good fun, but has there ever been a legitimate beef between anyone involved with PMT?

Legitimate beef? I don't. I don't think so. Nothing's coming to mind.

I'm trying to think if Hank and I have ever had legitimate beef. I've never had legitimate beef with PFT.

I've had no beef with anyone.

Hanks just drama free. That's what we always say about him.

No, there's tense moments, but they're never. They never last.

Yeah.

We get in cat fights.

Yeah.

Right. Which is. It would be crazy if we didn't. Yeah, that would be fucking weird if we just never got into little, like, tiffs.

Yeah.

I. The only time that it's not beef, but there are moments when we're on the road and, like, breakfast. Yeah, that breakfast. A perfect, like, if you call that.

Yeah, you didn't let me.

If you call that a fight, then, yeah, of course you fight. But that wasn't a real fight.

Oh, did dip spit dips fit?

Oh, yeah. Cuz you. Yeah. Also was.

But we also stick. We also still don't know who's.

Never know who. Who had dip spit next to your.

Seat in the Mountain Dew container? Yeah, because we're all drinking mountain Dew, so we don't know.

Um, there'll be moments like when we're on the road where we just, like, sit silently together in, like, an Uber, where it's just like, we're just tired.

That's usually the end of a trip.

Yeah, but that's not. That's not beef. Yeah, no, we've. We've been lucky to never have, like, an actual.

I was mad at Max for about. For about a minute, actually mad when he was watching the Phillies last year and he spat on me. But that was an ax he didn't mean to spit on. He was just too excited. And then I was just. You ever been in a situation where you're just mad at what happened, but you're not actually, like, you don't know what to do about it because you understand that Max is just going to yell and scream. He's got very moist lips. And so when sometimes it gets a little out of hand. You said the splash zone. You get Gallagher in the front row. And then I just had to calm myself down and be like, he didn't mean to do it. Max would never intentionally spit on you. He's just a messy guy.

Yeah, we've been very lucky because it is. There have been a lot of successful podcasts that broken up, and we've never had.

We've.

I don't think there's ever been something that's lasted, like, over, like, couple minutes, like, through a night. Yeah, right.

Never go to bed angry.

We've never gone to bed angry. And also, we got lucky because our beef guy isn't here anymore.

Yeah, there is.

There was a guy who did beef.

We all had legitimate beef with at some point.

There's a guy who just. He basically was cooking beef.

Yeah, but not seasoning it.

Last one. It's Mister Pears Venture.

Oh, dude, mister Pears on the move. Shell. Yeah, mister.

That's what they're saying.

Don't let him go under the coat.

Don't let him go under the couch.

Oh, no, Miss Pair, we're never gonna find you.

Memes, how nervous are you about Mister pair rolling around here?

Uh, not that nervous. It's very funny. Max just keeps putting him back in there.

What the fuck? Sir Pears technically moving faster than Max.

I love Mister Pear. I love you, Mister Pear.

I love you, Mister pair. Who's a very good boy, is it?

Can I boop him, Max?

Can you confirmed, boy? Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah. As a dude.

Memes.

Yep, confirmed.

Can boop? Okay. Goes in. When you boop him, he goes in.

It's so cute.

You want.

You want to boom?

Yeah.

He loves Mister Bear. He loves you.

Give a kiss.

Loves you, Mister Pears.

One of your papas. One of your papas, Mister Pear.

Just kiss him. Those little turtle hat.

Let me give him a tummy.

Tummy tags. Some tags.

Tummy tags. Yeah. He's so cute.

We're gonna get all kinds of weird shit from this pair.

Yeah.

I'm circling back to the fact that you said you wanted to record an episode at an awl's wedding in Thursday during NFL week six. Recap. I'm having a wedding at the end of august on a Thursday, which pug is invited to and hopefully comes. And it would be pretty chill if you guys came.

Wait, hugs actually knows the person and.

Record an episode at the wedding. I cleared it with the fiance who believes bruce ring screen and avril Lavigne will also be attending if invited. No shot. That happens. So thought I would shoot my shot with the Pmt boys. Love you guys.

Pug, are you aware of this? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know who wrote this.

Is it a flight, pug?

Yeah, it's in.

It's in Jersey.

Okay.

No, it's at the end. August.

Yeah.

What day?

Thursday.

Just a Thursday at the end of august.

I'm gonna say something that's gonna make hate even more. Matt, I think the only way we can do this is we just have to host a wedding here.

No, don't say that.

I mean, the worst idea that we've ever done. There's, you know what, history, this podcast.

When we married, you, we married.

I don't.

We've probably told a story. We said we wanted pft. Wanted to marry someone, so we know.

Not get married to someone. I was an ordained minister still.

You want. Yeah.

You want to marry.

I'm ordained.

That's.

That's the Craig verbiage.

But you could also.

It also sound. I'm just clarifying.

Mary someone.

That's what you said.

You.

I want to marry someone. PFC really wanted to marry someone.

That's not what I.

So we found two people for PFT to marry. Got them in the back of a van in a. In a parking lot in Ralph LA in Ralph's with like 150 people outside the van. Pft officiated the wedding. Most awkward thing of all time. I think I left the van in the middle of ever. I can't ever, like, I'm out. I want to crawl out of my skin. This is so awkward. Thinking they were actually getting married. Then it ended and it was the kid's sister.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was actually my sister. I just really, you know, convinced her to do it cuz I thought it'd be cool. Worst idea ever.

Very bad.

So, yes, I would say that this is also a terrible idea.

There was a zoom one that we.

Did for real over cove. Zoom one for real. Yeah, that was two people just getting married. Yeah, married. Married. If. Yeah, it's just a bad idea. It's just a bad idea to. There's. There's a hundred fiances listening to this right now that have already turned the podcast off because they don't want their fiance to have any ideas from this.

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say no to this dream. Eventually we will do it.

No.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not giving up.

Nope, we're not gonna do it. Giving up.

I'm just tweets at me. DMZ, arsenal, bighead.

Listen, eventually someone's gonna invite us to a wedding that's like down the block on a Thursday. And we can just pop in, just record ten minutes during the electric slide and then be it.

Nope.

Nope.

Okay, I'm.

You know what?

Not giving up on the big cat.

Really wants to go to one of your weddings, you guys.

I'm just saying it'll be a funny idea. I'd puzzle. What's Mister Pear doing?

We could we get wedding next year.

He said that we could do in a pugs wedding next year.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, that networks is a flight.

Yeah, it's also a flight.

See, this is flight.

I'm out.

It's also New Jersey. I'll get you a really nice gift, puck. Look at mister hairs. Numbers.

40.

818.

Someone should 99 p trying to skip cuz he's so happy.

I just did the dumbest google ever.

I'm gonna do 76. Pete pairs 1st 1st pick.

What number is turtle? Does it say 60? 112. I'll take 61.

Okay, I'll do three.

Anyone want twelve?

I'm sick with eight.

Okay, what number is turtle?

Wait, wait, you said twelve. Let me just.

It says 61 to four digit number for turtle is 60.

112 is turtle is twelve. Turtle.

No, 61.

I know, but I'm verifying if twelve is turtle. I'm not seeing anything that twelve turtle.

I'm.

Stick with eight.

Okay.

All right, everyone say their numbers.

76 pair. It's 40. I will maybe.

What?

Just kidding.

Oh. 72. 72.

Undefeated.

Dolphin one.

Mister pair. Undefeated.

Love you guys. Love you guys.

Take me out. I.