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That was one of the most boring games that I've ever seen.

I wish I want the bears to be bad, but fun, bad or good. I would root for the bears if they were good. I would get behind you into a certain point where it would break your heart most deeply. But they're not they're not fun. Bad. They had one hundred forty nine yards of offense.

Is that correct? They're leading. That's impossible to do. They're their longest run in the last two games has been by a fucking linebacker in a punt return. The only time they've scored seven points offensively this year in the third quarter doesn't count the third quarter because it was kick return. They are so fucking bad. It's painful. It is painful to watch. And like the play calling, I actually think now Matt Nagy like that was a very nice, subtle way for him.

When he pushes the play calling to Bill Lazar, he's essentially saying, hey everyone, it's not the play calling, it's the fact that Ryan Pace has shit for brains and he has completely ruined this roster because offensive line was a problem going in. It sucks. You knew that, like the quarterback situation was not good.

You went and got Nick Foles, who look, Philly loves Nick Foles. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. I don't know what his injury was, shoulder, rib, whatever. We'll get to that later. He's not good. He's not good at playing football like he's not good at being a quarterback. It's just objectively, he's just he's just found himself in a couple of good situations. Right. He's reached incredible heights and he's had incredible moments. But like game to game, he's not a consistent starter in the NFL.

Yeah, I mean, it is basically a really easy way for Matt Nagy to be like, this is not my issue. It doesn't matter who's calling the plays. It could be Andy Reid himself calling the plays. It could be any offensive coordinator in the league. But when you have Nick Foles and then when you have the offensive line injuries that we have and just to be fair, they are banged up football team is it's everyone. It's it's not great.

And it's so fucking boring to watch. It's just don't I also, even though the most exciting part of any Bears game should be Cordarrelle Patterson getting the ball because it's cool to see a big ass wide receiver playing running back every now and again. Even that's boring because I've seen it so much and it's usually not effective. And they even said that like he's I think Steve Levy said last night, like he's gotten so fat that he's basically also a fullback.

Yeah.

And the bears are so bad offensively that they were down six points and they returned to punt to like the forty five yard line of the Vikings. And there was a zero percent chance they were going to score and everyone knew it. And then on like third down, I don't it's insane that you can have a team. Mike Zimmer is a great coach. Mike Zimmer was blitzing every third down and no one realized it. I think it was it was clockwork.

Every third down. Bring the pressure. Nick Foles runs for his life. Nothing happens. Oh, let's throw in a like they ran that one fucking pass that was like second and six and they ran a pass like four yards behind the line of scrimmage. They're just so bad, incompetent and terrible. And I hate Ryan Pace and I hate to do this because Mitrovic, he's a very nice guy and it's not his fault. But this is what happens.

These are the repercussions of missing. When you take a swing for the fences on a quarterback in the first round and you miss you feel it for a decade going forward, like the bears will be catch, we'll be chasing that mistake for a very long time.

I just think that's remarkable that Matt Nagy found somebody that shares his exact brain when it comes to play calling that he could give up play going to. Yeah, he's there was actually no difference last night watching the the stuff that Bill Lazarre came up with, as opposed to what Matt Nagy. So there's yeah. There's no good you know, you can take take solace in the defense. The defense is still somehow playing very hard. Also, did you see defense looks good.

Did you see what happened when Chemex got hurt? Most important player changed a little bit. Most important players, they started the Vikings were able to run the ball. Very changed a little bit.

But still, the defense is good. I think the bears defense, it's still oh, it's very good defense that you could definitely win a Super Bowl with if you had an above average offense. But we don't. And everything broke. The exact right way, but you don't and it stinks, and we're going to have to watch the Bears in primetime again next week, LANCET'S And that's going to stink flex. Do they start flexing? They have to flex that.

They can't do this anymore.

I can't. That's the worst part about watching the bears in a stand alone game is the amount of tweets of like, how do you do this?

And I don't know, it's miserable. It's so it's so fucking terrible to watch. It's so dysfunctional and like, nothing works and it all sucks and they suck. And I know people are like, well, they're frauds. No, if you listen to what I said from day one, I was not apologizing for five to one because I was trying to enjoy the ride. But I knew this was a house of cards. I was realistic that this wasn't going to hold up.

I thought maybe with a five and one start you can lock into a playoff spot because you've already you know what I mean? Like, if you start five and one, you can reasonably finish the season four and six and maybe get in the playoffs at nine and seven.

That's what I was hoping for. But now it gets no chance. You also won too many games. Yes. So now your order is going to be all off. You're not going to be able to get somebody good. So I don't know who's going to be available in the off season is a free agent. But yeah, you guys are fucked. Yeah.

Here's are just well they suck in twenty four for everyone. They said you can start flexing starting in week five however.

Twelve days notice week or so twelve. So it's great for this weekend. No it's not this weekend. Isn't that. That's right. Consider a bye week. Yeah. Which is actually a break for you.

Has it been like today.

It's so perfect that they're on a bye week because that will give me just enough time to forget what happened last night. You know what though? And be like who the Bears beat the Packers. They're not going to flex it because it's Bears packing. If they're going to want to see Aaron Rodgers, they want to see us. They want to paint. They don't want to see you.

Happy big cat. All right. What else? I mean, Kirk Cousins. Let's give him some credit. He won on Monday Night Football game. Yeah. Great job, Kirk. That great job. Kirk, you've got Adam Thielen look pretty good. Justin Jefferson, Baby Bron. I can't decide which ones. Baby Brian. We should do a baby Brian of the week. Yes. Just whoever's good at that point will claim them for LeBron James.

We he have to worry about it. Yeah.

So that game sucked and then obviously we're now tipping this on Tuesday. So you're going to listen to us on Wednesday. You watch the game two nights ago and then Theo Epstein resigned. So everything's falling apart for me. I knew that. I think everyone knew it was going to happen because he was he's always said, I'm not. I'm ten years and I'm out. This is year nine. So it's a year early. But it was there was some rumors out there that he was thinking about it.

Theo Epstein might be the best guy at his job like ever in sports. I don't I mean, there's in terms of games, there's not many up there. Like he is exceptional, I guess.

See all the premise if you get the Red Sox and the Cubs World Series titles like I Know, probably go do the fucking Mets. There are no more kingdoms. If he. Yeah, if he gets the Mets. Yeah. Then switch over to football, get the Jets. It's just it's sad to see he wants to get into politics. If he if he could get the Red Sox, the Cubs don't get in and the Mets don't ruin it.

And then if he were to make the Democrats take the Senate, those are like the foremost impossible things. He he yeah.

He deserves all the credit or, you know. Yeah. All the credit for what he did in Chicago. And it sucks. But it also I understand he's he's a ten year guy. He said that from day one. So I actually think he'll be the next commissioner. He should be there. I think Manfred's got to be nervous because Theo Epstein is a fucking genius and everything he does turns into being great.

And yeah, the Cubs are in a great spot right now. But who the fuck cares? Flags fly forever.

Listen, there's there's nothing that Epstein could do that would make him a worse commissioner than Rob Manfred has been.

So all he has to do is apologize for his brother's ex. That's right. Stay out of the island for. Yeah, no, that's actually he's not related. OK, so for the record, we sure. The record are we 100 percent sure. For the record, not really. Have you checked Web flight logs is the goat. I love them forever and he spends a lot of Chinhoyi spends a lot of time scouting teenagers.

She had Hoyer Hoya's now the head of the operations.

Also think back his salary. Well, I don't know. Is it technically giving back if you quit? No, that's just quitting that you're not taking it. Well, but he could have easily. But when you quit a job, then they don't have to pay you afterwards. You get fired. He could have done something. He'd get himself fired. He was getting paid. He was going to get paid ten million dollars next year. He could have easily mailed that in.

You think he's going to go to the Mets?

Because I don't think. No, no. He said you can't you can't quit and then go to the Mets. No, he says can take a year off. But I'm saying that, like, he could have easily just cash that check. Yeah. So he deserves at least a little credit for that. I guess so. And the Cubs have had to fire a bunch of people on their staff because the covid. So, you know, Ricketts isn't rich enough, but yeah, that sucked.

So that's pretty much everything that's going on in the sports world. Everything sucks. Anything else before we get to hotsy cool thrown us soccers back. They won to two. We did again to Panama.

That doesn't count it. We'll take it a step in our world and then maybe even Tobago. Maybe we can be both those teams again. You know what? Stew, your tired idea now, because then we'll do guys on ChiX after Rousselot. OK, so my tired idea is actually it's it's a good hotseat. My tired idea is revolving around Twitter. So Twitter came out with fleets today, which is Instagram stories for year after Instagram copied stories from Snapchat stories.

So now you can send you can post a story on Instagram and then you can see who looked at it, but you can't see in order of who you follow, looked at it and then people can reply to your fleets. Wait on Twitter or on Twitter. You fleet. You fleet. Yeah. And then. And then where does it go? It goes up at the top. I haven't seen one. You haven't yet again updated. You do.

I should. I know it's going to update naturally.

It updated naturally for me.

Yeah. Kate update it. Yeah. It's the worst. So my tired idea is just an app that copies whatever the last iteration of the most popular social media was, and then it lets people use that. So, for example, everyone's mad about Instagram, right. Because Instagram also changed the layout. You just come out with a product that's Instagram, but just the last one that they had. Yeah. And you just keep updating as they go one further, you go one behind them and then everyone goes to the old version.

It's always the most immediate old version of that. I like that one. We don't like change.

Well, we don't like change. And it does feel like this is everyone just chasing the heyday of Vine. Just bring back Vine.

Vine. It was the most perfect app that's ever been invented. Vine was everything. The Ticktock and Instagram stories and fleets always wanted to be. Vine was the perfect app. Six seconds. It also Vine was like the greatest tick tock. Anyone, anyone can do anything because it's like, is it unlimited time on tick tock on the name and is it now.

OK, well how much time. I think a minute.

OK, a minutes. A long time. Having to be funny in six seconds or less is very hard to do. So I feel like vinyl. Yeah. Vine was was the perfect app where it was a sex problem.

Addicted to sex. Yes, sure. That was a great find.

These are, there are all like I still remember vines like individual vines. Yes. It was amazing. You remember like maybe a year ago Twitter said subdued. OK, guess what? We're going to give you the ability to send an audio tweet.

What the fuck was that about? Yeah. Who the fuck uses audio tweets? That's the stupidest shit that ever.

You ever have someone send you a text message, audio, text message. Those are the words. I always just assume it's there. But rubber. Yes. Or phone. They did it by accident. Yes.

Those are fucking terror with a butt tweet. I just and everyone says, just give us an edit button. For the record, I don't want an edit, but no, I live my life by the seat of my pants. I just fire off a fire and forget.

I don't want to have to go back and edit shit. Everyone says, give me an idea, but I'm team not edit button. But no, literally no one was asking for an audio tweet and fleets and fleets fleets.

It's kind of grown on me because it just it seems like a cool. What does it say for Fleet. I don't know. To boats. It's a giant boat.

It's no, it's not. It's a group of boats. One fleet is Blake Selm tweets, but it's not a group of ships sailing together engage in the same activity.

Oh, that's what the fleet is.

Yeah, got it. I don't know what I don't know what. It's going to be great though.

Like we just joked about that. But in ten years people will be like fleet is boats.

What are you talking about. So the reason. No, it's the industry, it's the Twitter videos. The reason I know it's not going to work is because it doesn't even work for horniness. Right. You can't you can't really creep on people and see who's creeping on you if you're a horny person on it. That's the only way to make any sort of new social media app work is if there's an ability to get real horned up on it. Yeah, Billy.

Really? Oh, I wonder if there was an app to find other horny people, other leaders. Hmm hmm. In a proximity. OK, anyway, go on. He's talking about his app.

About your app. Mark Cuban. OK, that has nothing to do with Fleet though joining us. All right. Should we do either way fleets? I just I feel like this is just the way for Twitter. I mean, I think we said this before, but Twitter does this every so often just so people can complain about Twitter, which gets Twitter back in the news, it's very bad.

It usually happens when Jack spends like a week and a half in isolation on a beach building, a campfire for himself meditating. Right.

And then he comes back. He's like, I've got a great idea. I unlock the secrets of the universe. We're just going to copy Instagram stories. Yes.

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My hotseat.

I have a few. My first one is Kyle Kuzma OK. Yes he the other day on Twitter ask the world who want a five insinuating he was going to give away a five or two. He got really excited and then there was a bunch of rumors about him getting treated and he deleted his Twitter.

Oh so did he get hacked. Delete your account fam. No I think, I think he had like a very like you know, sub tweet, like don't worry about other people's opinions. Like, that was his last tweet and then he deleted his account.

That's that's too much drama. This league has too much drama. What happens? Can you bring it back? You can bring it back, right? Yeah. Hostage.

Let's kind of like a show that's usually I get enough disrespect on my name. Y'all will be reminded. Piscine emoji, great way to leave then.

Lil Wayne got arrested today for firearms, maybe be going to jail for five years. But he endorsed Trump, who can now pardon him for Lil Wayne.

He's got to be like thinking to himself, I've got, what, 60 days?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, are you conceding? I'm not officially OK. So, yeah.

I mean, can't I hope I hope he gets out of the way by March 15 years.

No sooner did he get like his house raided or what happened.

Well, I think it was something like that is one of those things where he he or he shot himself when he was way younger, like he picked up a gun, actually shot himself. Then he got arrested a few years ago and the gun wasn't even loaded. And then in today's arrest, he because he's a felon, you're allowed to have guns. But he had guns. But in the arrest report, it's like we knew he wasn't going to use them, both of us.

So it's like he's just a bad gun owner because his license, your guns right in there.

But he's a convicted felon, so you can't have it in the report. They're like, yeah, it seems like he was never going to use them. He never has used them, but he can't have them. So you're arrested. So it's like he's just, you know, a terrible gun owner.

He just loves having guns around. Right. Can't stop guns. Right. Got it.

And then my cool throne is people who like my dog boner. Big cat, I guess, uh, Trigg's. I'm gonna send you guys this picture.

Trigg's. I don't like dogs. Bohner, I've I have stopped tweeting about your dog's boner. You have made me look at your dog's boner. You have now brought your dog's boner back into this shell.

Well, I mean, after it was brought on in the first place by you.

By you, I mean you. But then that's good. Then Trigg's made this movie.

So now can we laugh about your dog's boner again or. No, the cartoon version. Yeah, OK, the cartoon version. Yeah. So both dogs to the enormous adventure. We're going to tweeted out. It's on sale if you want to buy poster by poster, probably the holiday gift of the season.

So wait, so now you're you're making money off of your dog's boner. But I was wrong to tweet it.

I never said you're wrong. You're also said that big cats addicted. You're also there was the second time. I know. I know. I only tweeted once you're giving your dog the starring role in Boner Dogs.

Boner talks, too.

Yeah, it's OK. Got it in your secret. OK, and we change up some of the actors in there. So if you have the first Boner Dogs poster, you got to get the second one up too.

I just think it's a little suspect from McConaughey. Wahlberg, Sandler. I've been accused of liking Heynckes dog's penis too much and now we're selling merch.

It's I mean, it's a it's one of those things where their hands are tied.

Yeah. You're very hypocritical. Stance on your own dog's penis. Absolutely not. I was the one that wants to see you guys in the first place. Why don't you guys see in the first place? Oh, you're meeting that now.

OK, good. Thankfully, at least we got there after you tried to shame me. Not I did not shame you, I, I said I was like you felt I was loving my life not knowing how enormous your dog's penis was.

And then you showed up and showed me. And my life has never been the same.

I think about your dog's dick. I just don't like it because it looks like it hurts. It looks like he's sick. Oh, he's in pain.

It looks like he's got his intestines falling out of his car and he's in a lot of pain. Yeah, you're right. It does look like he's got a hernia. He's got a hernia. He's got a sports hernia. Is that a heck, yeah, Ted, I have another one, but I don't want no, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, I don't know. It's selfish and it's it's no, it's here.

And this is you know, it's got contest about you guys. You should not. Oh, it's fine. I don't want you on a podcast about us. I cast about friendship.

Go ahead. All right. Thursday, big cats play a double header.

And I told you I didn't want to do this cat electric matchday. He lost today.

So you guys, the entire broadcast, big cats playing twice.

He's playing third. Mm. Starts at two o'clock. Make your picks the play ball up now. 2000 is great. All right, cool. I didn't want to do that.

I really didn't want anything else. Fantasy factory, anything becoming a fantasy factory come through says make sure you go. Listen, I'll give one to Jake to go listen to the bench for podcast. All right. On Thursdays. Yeah, yeah.

Listen to Jake's podcast, college basketball about and Jake's going to course on the podcast if you have enough subscribers.

That's nice. Wait one week from today. Oh, I see. FTS this is so stupid. You got them now. Oh oh. You see the one I posted. What the hell.

We're actually really going to like fleets. I'm guaranteeing like give me give me a month I'll be addicted to fleet somebody.

Oh I just don't think like I'm pretty sure and I'm not like a huge nerd with this stuff, but I'm pretty sure like, you know, Instagram, when you put up stories like convert's, like if you put up a story like go buy this shirt, a lot of people will do that on Instagram stories. Right. But on Twitter, when you tweet something, you're like, hey, go like buy this merch, whatever the the whatever. People don't really do it.

The conversion rate is very low. I don't know if if if that's the same with fleets, like there's no point. Can you swipe up on a fleet.

I don't know that that is what I'll be interested in. It's one of those things where it's like, you know, fleets are fleets pop off, people do stuff. I'm maybe I'm off on fleets out.

I'm out. All right. Fifty.

What's your hotstix? My hotseat is Marsters ratings and then by extension, my Cothran throne is NFL ratings.

So there was you know, it's like the it's the it's the slate to be. Yeah, but we have to make jumping rash conclusions about everything. Go all these ratings come back broke. Right.

So the Masters. Yeah. Yeah. Who got Wolken Golf recently.

Didn't they just let Condoleezza Rice be a member, you know, five years ago. And Agusta, how does how does. I don't want to say their name because they love whenever they're mentioned. But how do the ratings police spin this one when it's been every sport across the board has been down in ratings because they're all being played at weird times, but then they only pick one league that's got got. Wolken went well.

Also politics. The election coverage ratings were way down, which is people are sick of all the politics out of politics. How do you spin that? It's like, yeah, there's really no way to spin it. But actually, I do admire the way that Fox managed to spend their numbers because Fox, they lucked into this one because they had huge ratings on NFL football, but they said a seventy one percent increase over the last season. They had eight million viewers.

Most watched NFL regional window on Fox since 2009, just completely leaving out the fact that they got all the the games from CBS that were also on various Fox regional networks in the ratings. War is all about spinning it. I mean, we've been in it. You just you just pretend that you puff out your chest. You pretend you're fucking peacock. Yeah. Remember when we had our own TV show, we had to be like, well, what does this mean?

Well, the streaming numbers and all that.

Well, yeah, everyone, they use a call like seventy percent of people that usually watch Jimmy Fallon watched us tonight. I was like, the big thing that we've got to claim ratings.

People suck. They are the worst. And also especially the first. Twenty four hours after the ratings come out, that's when you know everyone's wrong not to break the fourth wall.

But if if someone is talking about how big their show is, like constantly, probably not. Yes. If they constantly can't stop talking about the growth of their show. Probably not as big as they say.

Mm hmm. Because you can't play the percentage game forever. Correct. You can react eventually. You are what you are also not necessarily the size of the show. Billy, Billy's laughing.

Now you say you say, Billy, go. Come on. I was going to say something about golf. No, I was gonna say anything about golf to it.

You say it's about weakness. I think watching golf is kind of like watching C-SPAN. Oh, OK.

That's just controversial. You know what? I think ever since they stopped letting people call in and report their own rules violations, I feel like it's less it's less of a sport for me to watch at home.

I golf coverage will never figure it out, though. Like there were times I was watching. I watched pretty much every every second in the Masters and there were times when you just couldn't, hey, I want to watch Brooks live.

No, we're going to go to this fucking loser.

There are too many rules about about who you're allowed to watch and at what times.

It's just how does golf not have an option? Just give me everything. It's very simple. Just put one drone that follows every single group. So even if they're not on the main TV cameras. You can at least watch them via drone, right? Right. All right, your cool drone does my hotseat and my oh, my hotseat was the master's ratings. My cool throne was the Fox NFL double header ratings.

All right. My hotseat is Sean Payton for medical malpractice, because after the game on Sunday, after he heard me say that Drew Brees actually had a shoulder injury, he went in puncture. Drew Brees is long, slow and broke two more and more ribs so that then everyone could dunk on me. No, but seriously, I got that very, very wrong. He still has a shoulder injury, but he did not. He has a real rib injury.

I'm I'm here ready to admit that I was wrong. I fucked up. I took Emeka Okafor. It was very it sucked because if you look at Adam Schefter tweet of being like Drew Brees punctured lung and had two rib injuries, just scroll it. I think I was tagged seven thousand times. You were very you were very ad. I still am. And I've got to work for I am adamant. That's fine.

We listen, we all jump to conclusions sometimes. Took my shot missed.

But if you didn't if you had been right then you would have looked really, really smart. His shoulder still hurt but his ribs are very he's got four four broken ribs, five broken ribs. I was very raw and punctured lung. He was, he went he looks at lung drew that was running up the score.

He looked like he's going to puke when he was on the field.

He wouldn't you say? Yeah, well, he didn't need to come out with that. He didn't need to puncture his lung to really dunk on me. Like I would have been fine with just the five ribs confirmed broken. I would have been an idiot. But the punctured lung made me both an idiot and an insensitive idiot. So a punctured lung seems like there's been a lot of that going around recently. Is that one of those things where whenever you break a rib too badly and it indents your lung a little bit, ah, does your lung actually deflate Bill you probably punctured?

Yeah. So does it deflate.

Yeah. Well you have a hole. How do you read, how do you feel the whole day.

Actually I think the I don't know the exact procedure but they have to like close the hole.

Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Flexible flight pattern as they just slap it on.

They may not believe this, but junkyards you might get Tyrod Taylor next year after he comes back from his puncture. Oh, that would be he would actually be a perfect Bears quarterback. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he would he would actually maybe score some points. I don't even want to think about the bears anymore.

It's just so fucking bad. All right. My cool throne. I actually don't have a cool throne. Billy, my heart.

I have one for you. Oh, so I stupid fucking people. I'm talking a lot of Twitter, so maybe not. But the stupid like they can make like the Trump.

This has been contested or whatever. Oh yes. Everyone that's that's that's. Yeah. Very high. The streets. This is false information.

I have not seen a single one of those memes has been funny. I haven't even changed once I saw one under the can't lose Parli. Oh that's funny Mr. Parlato. Oh cool.

Thrown my spreadsheet these guys. Did you read the scratch. No, no, no. I will defend this because I have the writing had the right.

What did you say in the first half. It's and only five. Correct. Yeah but guess what. The whole point of the spreadsheet was that. You bet the other side too. So if it goes 015 you hit that five and Opala on the other side. But there you go. Positive. So we're up thirty two dollars. Really.

How do you do on Twitter. A good amount. How many. I'm kind of embarrassed, no, just say sympathy for cash. Thank you, Jake, thanks. And Ted. Listen to the podcast. All those people that didn't get to hear the podcast or didn't don't follow you on Twitter get screwed. No, but it one. So actually, go check it out because I put it how it was done and we've actually improved it for next week.

Actually, it's kind of really fun. Communal thing. We proved it. Yeah. There's like, you know, crowd sourced. Yes.

So cool thrown my my PA system hotseat.

Is it possible, is it possible to lose all your money in your parley's. No, you can't lose all of it. It's impossible. Impossible to lose all of it. You can lose some of it. You can win a lot more, but you can't lose all of it. You are.

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OK, here he is, Ryan Rosillo.

OK, we now welcome on our good friend recurring Gaspin too long. It is Ryan Rosillo, draft expert. Yeah, your draft expert in one insider. Watch all the tape knows everything.

Ryan, I'm told you talked to a lot of guys around the league. Is that true? Everyone. How many guys is like on a weekly basis would you say you talk to.

Hmm. Oh, yeah, probably. I don't know. It's probably around five a week, but I mean, some weeks you just don't want to talk to anybody either. And I'm sure plenty of times I don't want to talk to me. But, you know, the funny thing is, is you can talk and talk and talk and even guys that do this for a living and work for teams like you'll think something on, especially in a week like this, you'll think something last week.

And there's multiple things that I've already changed my mind on based on information.

So, you know, guys, you get paid for it to have the pressure actually having a hit send on getting stuff right. Those guys have way more pressure than a guy like, you know, me or anybody that just talks to people. And you're like, yeah, this could be something that's happening, you know, so we get off easy. But it sucks when you get stuff wrong. It's yes. Yes, I agree.

Drew Brees, he does have a broken rib. I wasn't going to bring that up, bring it up on the show. I was going to up beforehand. Where did you guys have a breeze inside or. Yeah, no, I was I was woak on him. I thought his shoulder was hurt and then they and then Sean Payton further broke. Drew Brees is long to really stick it to me to make me look like an asshole.

It was one of those things that popped up. Take that big cat thought sounded weird at the time. And I do those all the time, so I'm not in any position to judge. But at the time I was. I think you might be over the skis on this, his shoulders hurt, he was hurt, his shoulder still hurt. All right, by the way.

No, no, I'm going to interrupt you here, though, because I just I love that there's certain guys and I'm not even criticizing it, but there are guys that are like the quickest to go. Something's wrong with this dude, like, all the time.

So I feel like I'm the anti like, how do you know? Just by watching a guy that you think he's heard all the time, like it happens in basketball all the time. We're like, oh, something's wrong with this guy. Then you'll call me like, no, he's fine. He just missed a million shots. And then after we call that that.

So Russell Wilson has gotten into that territory. Now it's the Steph Curry territory where Steph Curry is so beloved that if he has a bad game, everyone's like, well, his ankle must be hurt. Russell Wilson, when he's starting to play bad, everyone's like, well, is something wrong with him?

You did it, though. You said something wrong with Joe. I know that.

Right. He just he just kind of sucks right now or as well, I don't think. Yeah, I think it has more to do with his defense.

We had Dilfer on a Monday and I go, what do you see? And he goes, he just knows he has to chuck it up all the time because the defense is so bad. So. All right, now I see what you're doing. I'm on to it. By the way, you said recurring guest. Long time. It's almost controversially long.

How long has it been? Like a year over? Over a year. Well, about that you had I'm not sure if it's when you said that thing, you said Big Ben's no longer Ali. And we were like, what the fuck, dude? You're off the show. Did Big Ben be covered, by the way?

Under the radar. He looked he had covered.

So he came into work one day and he was like, oh, I think I think I heard somebody sneeze at the gym. Mo Yeah. On the low.

He literally is Ricky Bobby. He just said, I want to practice. Yeah, he's Ricky Bobby getting stabbed in the leg when he pretends that he's paralyzed and then being like, dude, you're not hurt. He's like, no, I am. I'm really hurt. Tom, if there were ever.

Yeah. If there were ever an athlete that's like you guys don't have home self test kits. Yeah. What. Like yeah, I'm on kit CICU tip and some candle wax and it got tested positive but I'm good. Yeah. Like what.

All right. NBA draft. So. Does this draft suck or is it that we didn't have March Madness and the top picks are a guy who played in Australia, the guy who played for shitty Georgia team, a guy who got suspended from Memphis and ain't no stopping Kobe Toppin and an Israeli dude. Which one is right? You're on it.

The Israeli dude. Yeah, it's a bad draft at the top and it may be historically bad. And, you know, I know the closer we get to this, it happens every year where it'll be a bad draft. And I remember a GM telling this a long time ago. He goes, drafts are like spring weddings where the closer you get to it, the more you're like, this is actually going to be awesome, where the entire time leading up to it really kind of dreading.

Is the weather going to be good? I don't know. I mean, I'm not big in the wedding game, so I don't fully understand the analogy. But I got the point that the closer you get to every single draft, the more and more people start to talk themselves into it. So this has become the you know what? It's not great at the top, but there's a ton of depth. There's a ton of players all over the place.

And I really think if you look at it historically, you know those picks and you're seeing GMs just give these things away now.

But the picks, you know, late first, you know, 20 on if you get a rotation guy, that's a huge hit. There's so many misses. So maybe it ends up being a better draft because there's more depth and there's some guys that make rotations and end up getting the second, third contracts, which is really a lot for somebody that's outside of the lottery. Like, that's a huge win. As much as you don't want to fall in love with your guy, that's picked a 22.

But at the top, you know, you always hope every year there's maybe one or two guys that can really impact a franchise.

And I'm not saying the handful of players that are in the league now that truly alter who you are as a team, because there's not that many of those guys. There's not there's not 10 players in the league to completely change who you are as a team. And they're certainly not even close to as many as we think there are in the draft. But this one has a chance to have zero. I can talk myself in and out of every one of the top.

I like wisemen. I've seen him play three games in college. OK, that's ridiculous that I like him this much, but I like him this much in comparison. Everybody else romello. I can see it six, seven, six, eight. Sees the floor really athletic, great handle. But when I watch the twelve games that he played in the Australian League, it's impressive. Grows all the time because of his approach to the game.

And then, you know, even Anthony Edwards, who we understand physically how impressive he is, you're like, OK, so what did he do? He took eight threes a game for a team that lost all the time and didn't make any of them.

So I want to actually ask a question about that, because this is this might make me like a hot take, old guy, but how much do you put into being on, like, not being able to win at college? Like Anthony Edwards, like Ben Simmons, the LSU team didn't go to the tournament markelle fultz that Washington team Washington team was bad. Is it wrong of me to be like, yo dude if you're like the number one pick or you know number one, number two, you should be good enough to win some more games in the SEC or is that unfair?

It's part of it, but I still think it's unfair. I mean, think about Melo. When Melo came out, he was the ultimate winner.

When you said he still is, yeah, the fucking check, the fucking gold medals, dude, you know what I want to hear one time is when a guy's up for the Hall of Fame, they're like silver medalist because, you know, my my long standing, like, the sooner you have to mention somebody won a gold medal in the Olympics. Their argument to make the Hall of Fame the worse their chances are getting the Hall of Fame except the part where everybody gets into the basketball hall of Fame.

So it's it's not it's not great.

But like the Ben Simmons stuff, I thought was always kind of weird because he was lazy. Right. And it's not that he was lazy. That team was a mess. They like for guys. It all thought they were the number one option. I don't know the coaches that great all the time. And here he was supposedly lazy. He was double digits rebounds in SEC play. So if you're lazy, you're not going to rebound like that.

So the Edwards part is like, I'm more worried about a shooting. I think the weirdest thing if you wanted to go, old guy, is because of Steph short range.

And what's an acceptable shot for him. The same thing with Lillard Harden even Trae Young.

He makes a lot of those you know from far out enough. He can keep taking him because he makes enough of them. There's this entire generation of younger players that have seen guys pull up from thirty feet to transition and they don't even care if it goes in they just pull up. Yeah. I mean lamella was twenty five percent on seven attempts per game in the twelve games he played in Australia.

Twenty I, I can't believe there wasn't a like a vet that beat him up in the locker room at halftime but one of these games. But I guess they were just all cool with it and apparently bought the team or is buying it. So that might have been part of it.

But there's a whole there's a whole movement now of young guys like it used to be. You didn't matter if the last second shot went in. You just had to take it because that's what Kobe did. Now it's become I'll just pull up from thirty because that's awesome. Like, well, it doesn't go in like. Yeah, but it's it's pretty sweet. It looks.

Yeah. Like the next iteration is going to be a guy who can draw fouls like James Harden but absolutely sucks it free throws but gets to the line like forty times a game with La Melo.

Is it a little strange to you that LaVar Ball has just been completely silent for what seems like the last year and a half? Where is he? Is somebody is he tied up in a basement somewhere?

What's going on with that? I think he's trying to get those big baller brand orders out that haven't been fulfilled. He's in the warehouse. Yeah, yeah. We're out of eight and a half.

So, again, you know what I actually think part of it is, is he probably crossed the line at a couple of things that he said were for today's climate, like some people probably didn't want to book him. I also know, at least from the ESPN experience, he was becoming a bigger and bigger pain in the ass for the stuff he was asking for, like he would call up and be like, I want this car. And then it was like, no, I want this car.

And they'd give him that car. And then it's like, now I want milk and cookies. I heard a story about a milk and cookies requests or they're like, all right, fuck off. Like, give me a break.

I was milk and cookies. That's the only thing I would offer them to come on, come back on party. Did he not get pitched to you guys? He pitched to me recently.

He got pitch to us as soon as ESPN stopped having him on. And we were kind of I don't think he liked us.

No, I think we just kept on going like he likes anybody. Yeah, really. We kept on calling the small ball. All right. So any other words? I actually I don't I don't actually put that much stock into, like, your college team suck. That's more of an old guy. So here's the other old guy thing, by the way.

Washington's a great call because all they end up with all the five stars, guys that go in, they suck all. I was like, I watch them all. They have two guys that are first rounders again. And Jordan's a five star kid, six nine perimeter player. And then you watch him and you're like, what happens to you when you go to Washington? Yeah.

So it's crazy. It's that we it's the weird camera angle that always fucks me up. No, seriously, that's the weirdest camera angle in all of sports.

There's some weird back twelve angles there. Are you that they have a weird one in football too. So here's the other old guy take or trying to figure this out. How much stock do you put into the difference between a nineteen year old and a 22 year old? Because I love this like Obi Toppin. He's old, he's twenty two. And then, you know, who's the first kid? Williams, right? Patrick Williams. Williams, who probably would be a bull.

He just turned nineteen in August. So he's got to go up the boards because he just turned nineteen. Do you really fall into like what month you were born matters that much?

I do. I do. There's just enough information that backs it up that, you know, I remember like the old Dick Vitello draft night when he was still on the draft, he would get super mad when, like, Keith Bogans doesn't go higher because Keith Bogans have been around for a while. And then he looked like Keith Bogans is a bad example from my point. But like he stuck around for a little while, was a nice player.

But it's like whenever anybody would get drafted that was older and then produced, people would say, you know, what's wrong with just taking a guy that was around for a bunch of years and now you know exactly what you're getting.

But based on projections and the rate of I go, if you're this young, the expected improvement, it's it's really not even debatable. Like, yes, there are exceptions. And that's what I hate when people argue the exceptions. But the younger you are is a prospect in this league is especially in the draft. It's so hard. We've been over this many times. It's so hard in free agency, it's so hard with trades that that's why you'll see teams go like, yeah, maybe I could take the 21 or 22 year older and maybe he makes my seventh or eighth floor and.

The rotation and maybe I know exactly what I get, but it's so hard to add any next level talent, I'll take the younger guy and hope it works out. Yes, there are tons of busts all over the place, but if you look at it historically, you know, the better players in it becoming the guys that are drafted when they're younger.

And I remember one time Stern was got super pissed, which is rare when he was being interviewed after the playoffs.

And I think it was an international report. It was like, what would you say about the product of all these high school kids out there running around? He's like, what?

Like Garnett, Kobe, LeBron, like on and on and on. And basically, Stern just totally owned them by naming ten guys that were the best players in league.

So. So, Ryan, how young is too young for you? Fifteens young.

Yeah. So you're saying 16 is OK?

Yeah.

For well big guys. 15 maybe. But outside perimeter players. Yeah. That's like you're into 16 year olds.

Oh, yeah, what are you doing? Well, you know, a lot of times you got to worry about the you got to worry about the international rights. Which is always a problem, child trafficking. Yeah, that could be an issue. Yeah, but then you'll ask like I could, I heard the new take and was going to be taken four point guards. Hmm. OK, yes. Yes, yes.

Isn't that wouldn't there be a difference between taking like an older guy who is like a four or five as opposed to a younger guy who like plays a different position, like is there any different expected rate of improvement by position that you play?

I got are we back on the draft sort of you kind? Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm talking about flowback. Talking about basketball players.

Look, I just. Knowing how how teams like when Yoni's is drafted, OK, when you watch Giannis from the international video that you had it was like ok he's pretty athletic and it's cool but it looks like he was beating the shit out of junior high kids. Yeah, it was the way the gym sucked. I think there's one game I watch where there are no seats. Like I can't believe this guy is going to be in the draft and like, I don't know what to do with them.

There's another kid named Pokaski who's like seven one. I think he weighs like 115, which is definitely thin. And he's playing in these games that are horrible. But with Yoni's, when you ask Milwaukie, like, what did you see in the guy? I was a 15th pick. Like we could have taken somebody who was in college for a few years and not exactly we were going to get. But we just figured out, you know, we'll see what happens.

And it worked out. And I love the fact that the guys that took him then it was Jon Hamm and was with Orlando now because they weren't patting themselves on the back like they did a good job, they scouted him. They were like, OK, we're on this. But they still were they didn't expect this. And I can't imagine what they saw in some of the video because of the video that I had. And granted, they went to see him in person in that kind of stuff.

I'm OK with teams totally screwing it up for the high ceiling guy as opposed to taking something that you absolutely know because this league is so hard at talent.

So you bring up Giannis Let's go off the draft for a second. Are the bucks just doing the thing that the Cavs did where they're trying to build for the future for Giannis being like Hey we put a contender around you and then Giannis is still going to leave in a year and a half and then they basically mortgaged their entire future to try to get a guy to stay for no reason.

What the bucks are doing is apparently what everybody's doing now. Like I said at the top, like I thought the first round picks late were a little overrated, but you just exciting. It's exciting. When it's your favorite team, that's draft night, you're like, oh man, we got this guy at twenty four. Be like, what do you do. Oh he transferred Virginia Tech. Oh I love him. He's super athletic and then he's gone.

They don't even pick up his third year option.

But now I think because teams have kind of figured out those picks don't mean a ton, now they're just handing them out. And when you look at the box and say, wait, in 2027, part of that Jrue Holiday deal is a twenty twenty seven unprotected pick. That to me is insane, irresponsible. I mean sports. How many times have you thought you knew exactly who like the next team was going to be for the next five years and then all of a sudden you go, what happened?

Remember when they were the new thing? I mean, it happens in every single sport, but with basketball, the think here we are, seven, seven drafts from now.

There's this pick that's completely unprotected.

That pick by itself could somehow end up being worth what Jrue Holiday is, accepters, what two other picks that are unprotected and then two other swaps. So they clearly went all in with Giannis and I know I sound naive and I'm and I'm not because clearly keeping Giannis is the most important thing. But what would be wrong with Giannis going. Hey I actually do want to stay so don't give a five first for a guy that you have one year of control of.

Right right.

It feels like they're doing the desperation thing when you just sit down and I've heard you talk about this before and LeBron kind of did this to the Cavs where he left them in limbo and left them being like, well, we don't really know what to plan for here because LeBron could leave.

You could take leave like it's weird that no teams just sit down and like he Giannis are you leaving. Are you staying. And if you're staying we're going to treat you right.

We're going to trade five first to convince you or we could just talk about it right now. LeBron would never talk to anybody about it ever.

I mean if you are management and you think LeBron is going to tell you anything, he is on his own and he will gladly let you trade for a million contracts and then he will bounce. And you know what it has worked out for LeBron. So I'm not even knocking him for it.

But this this league has become the opposite of any kind of collaboration whatsoever.

And so you have a ton of GMs, especially now with so few sellers. You have a lot of GMs overpaying because the seller buyer ratio and the fact that so many guys are operating fear like I I was surprised that people knocked Phoenix for giving up as much as they did. And I'm like, well, first of all, they get off of Rubio's money, they get Chris Paul. And if you're a stale franchise like it's different for every franchise.

If you're a team like Phoenix or you're like, OK, we've got Booker and A and and those guys might be really good, but the longer we go not making the playoffs, one of them might get pissed off.

And maybe it'll be Booker, which I mentioned a couple of weeks ago.

And then you're like, all right, well, do we really like what we get, Chris Paul?

All of a sudden we matter in a way we haven't mattered in years. So let's just go ahead and do it so that one kind of makes more sense. But I really for some of these organizations that have this gun to their head to overpay for all the stuff when all they had to do was like kind of be more on the same page with the guys decision, like a Giannis it just like if I were Yanukovych. Wait, so what happens in three years.

We don't have any picks to trade and I resigned. But you've got rid of all the picks and now we have less things like a trade deadline. We can't move a first for somebody because we gave them away through 2027. I don't understand why people think this is like normal.

If the if the if the idea was to make these trades to keep Giannis long term, it actually is counterintuitive. We should not stay now long term in Milwaukee. He should be happy that they're trying to win right now but long. Term, he should be like, no, wait, we don't have any assets, so it could have just been like almost from a PR standpoint, the team shows that they're willing to make this big, which they did with LeBron, knowing that Giannis might leave at the end of his contract.

And then they're like look we did everything that we could. Yeah. To keep him around. We even tried to make our alternate jerseys look like the Miami Heat jersey.

So you feel like he was playing and built a whole new stadium for you and we built it on the water.

So he thought we tricked him and told him it was the Atlantic Ocean. So, yeah, I could see it being like a PR move. But I had a question for you about James Wiseman, because I think you and I have the same take about James Wiseman, even though you know a lot more about basketball than I do, which is he looks awesome when he dunks.

He look, just when he was playing in those three games, his dunks were like that. That's a dude that could be dunking on people that are at least six inches taller than they are on that same court.

And then obviously, he's, you know, he could be in position to be picked by the Warriors. But do you think that the Warriors are even going to take wisemen or you think that that he's going to be put on the move?

I don't know that the trades that, like Minnesota's pick was apparently available. Golden State's was apparently available. And I think a lot of us from the outside will always say, oh, why don't they just trade the picture of the picture like, OK, for who and what and who's available? Like Bradley Beal? You know, I don't know that no one in a bad draft gets it done for Bradley Beal and you have to worry about is Bradley Beal because that's the other part.

So we could sit here and name guys. It's like, OK, but if you trade for somebody who then is immediately to go, I don't want to be here and you're just inheriting somebody else's problem.

But Weizman, the thing I like about him is yes, the size and all that stuff, he catches everything. So at his worst, you know, if he's this big guy that can stay on the floor at the end of games, which is what you need now, especially out west, and if you were Golden State, I would think it would almost make sense roster wise. But it's still asking a lot of a kid who played three games at Memphis to be closing playoff games in the Western Conference.

But the league got small and then it got big again. I mean, you have to figure out a way to deal with Anthony Davis in that size. And LeBron, who basically is bigger than every other wing, like gets a real problem. And it was basically hopeless, I thought, for the Miami Heat with the way they were built, even with those injuries. I didn't really think they had enough on that front line.

But Weismann also has another level that I don't know if he's going to get to, but he'll show it with his handle. He'll show a really soft touch where he almost has some of these offensive, small forward skills that you start to get really, really excited about. The downside of it is there'll be moments where you can see it's not natural. He'll have the ball and then he'll think through all the different things he could potentially do. It's almost like a slow download speed.

And you're like, all right. So I've caught myself probably too many times.

Like Stromile Swift is my all time or was like, this guy is going to be nasty and, you know, like, well, the dunks are nasty, but he's not great at the basketball part of this. And it doesn't it doesn't really work out.

Tyrus Thomas Big Kapinos jumps through the fucking roof just and then he, like, could bring the ball up at LSU. Like he started showing all these perimeter skills. You go, oh, my God. And people loved him like he was a late riser. And it was just like, look, he's got perimeter skills and he's this insane. He's like a tier one NBA athlete as soon as he's in the league. But I try to catch myself and go, OK, but how good is he at basketball?

Like, is he good at the basketball part, like Patrick Williams of Florida State? He looks incredible until you watch him dribble or shoot, which are big deals. So maybe maybe somebody figures it out and that's why, you know, that's why this still is so hard. So like any of these guys at the top, if we were sitting here in five years going, hey, Wiseman's, you're the tenth guy on a team, and he never figured it out, I'm not going to be shocked by that either.

And that's why the top of this is different. Where Zion comes in, the only thing that was ever going to hold Zion back is his own conditioning in in health because of science, healthy. He's going to dominate in this league. We just it was so much more obvious a guy like that compared to anyone here at the top.

Yeah, he Wiseman's should just get fat. He should intentionally get fat. Yeah, I've been arguing for a while. OK, we need a dude with a big, like Shaq esque body. Just eat up space and back people down because you don't have to be as good at basketball if you're seven foot one and 300 pounds.

So if you miss post play, is that in this post play? I missed the nineties days back when, you know, you had you had guys like Hakeem Olajuwon. They knew how to do a skyhook and knew how to use a pivot foot. Nowadays it's just all three pointers and dunks.

Not for me said I'm a terrific I'm a terrific post player. Terrific. Up, up, up. Put that up against anybody. But then yesterday I was telling big cats some guys were like hitting on me at the at hoops trying to ask me to play with them. It was weird because you were backing them down too hard.

You're sending the wrong signal. No, no. They just say me. They saw me shoot around a little bit and, you know, I was trying to be covered safe. So I didn't really want to play pick up with anybody anyway. But I just want to get some shots up, you little sweat in. And I think they were high as fuck as they reached. And I think one guy was playing in sandals, but he was really nice.

But then he was they were asking me how much I weighed and they had a bet on it, which I thought was kind of cool and complimentary, you know. So I was like, I don't know, I don't have to tell you. So I told him my wait and they got excited. And then it just immediately went into, hey, do you guys want to joint you? You want to join my buddies? And I got a text thread and we can we can pick.

And I was like, no, I. I actually don't want to give you my cell phone number, but I'll just be around you basically just met the West Coast football because that's something Billy Football would absolutely say, like how much you weigh.

Like I'm looking at you right now. You're looking pretty solid.

I don't know what's up with Billy Football's arms. I thought he used to have a good question, Ryan.

So he joined me, too. He doesn't have it. He doesn't have a head. He joined the Jinger team and then he cut his sleeves off. And then it shows the only guy in the office that has bigger arms. And so now it looks like he's got a little earthworms hanging from a really hasn't done curls in days.

It's bad. He asks, what's up with your arms, Billy? Tell Rosillo I'll I'll bench you 100 percent how much you mentioned nowadays.

You know, once you get out of high school, you don't max Atun.

I know I'm out of college. I still owe Max. I'm like, no, I can bench more than me. You probably can, man.

I don't know. What do you what do you. What do you, Max? Well, right now I'm probably hovering around like 285 max.

Oh, it's not a lot to brag about. That was fucking you. How would you. I put up three, fifteen, three times a day fucking around the back to me. Made a couple of years. You're probably a short arm. That's man strength.

No, I'm not a short arm guy. I don't know if you caught this now I know you must've missed the part by my posting like six six. It's stupid. Oh it's silly.

Thing is, I'm sure that Ryan actually knows exactly what his wingspan. Yes. No, he's got a new spider chart on his wall. That's it. That's in the draft, notes Reinoso six six Wingspan. It's Stupe Celestron. I can't believe you're at 285, right? I got it.

I got some numbers now. Yeah, my spot was my best left guard.

Say your squat numbers cross over 440. OK, that's great, man. Some talk to me when you're forty five. OK dude.

Anyway to eighty five. I didn't know you like bench guy was. No but two eighty five. Like don't go round no doubt. But what is now like you were so confident.

I assume you're going to say like three sixty five or something like that. Three plates then you can't come out.

When you go out in public you represent us and you're telling people that you bench to eighty five. That's embarrassing.

Well now I mean I'm not like I dropped like you guys made fun of me for being fat so I don't like my body weight slower.

So you know what I was I was, I was like 240, like I was benching way more but then I was oh belly footballs.

Fuck, I got to drop weight.

I'll be honest, I don't care how fat you are. If you can throw up three plates then then I'm fine with that. Yeah. I've been in the past.

I'm just, I'm disappointed with that. And I'm just being like I was fucking around this morning and threw up three fifteen like he wasn't even benching seriously dude he was warming up, he was just having a laugh anyway.

Love to live with Billy by the way. Don't let them. It's clearly they're getting in your head. Don't worry about the big four. They're all man big is in. Yeah, well yeah. But this is a different work dynamic.

I think we can all agree on that. And by the way, when Big Cat says you represent us, Van Pelt said that to me one night, scolded the shit out of me and it sucks to hear, but it also wasn't a lie.

Yeah. And then later on I was like, hey, and then but later on, you become your own person. You go out. I want to hear that. Well, what did you do to have him say he benched two seventy five to eighty five.

I told him I told somebody to fuck off I think. Well he did a long time. I could maybe hit three hundred.

Yeah I know the excuses are coming. Right. Right. Would you say you told someone to fuck off.

I told somebody to fuck off in one night and he, he didn't really love it so whatever as long story. But, you know, he was fair. It was fair. It was stern. But it was fair. But yeah. Billy, seriously, man, you're you do have long arms.

Your arms from this angle look better. I'm trying to build you up a little bit, but you can't if you can't put up three fifteen right now, you shouldn't start like stepping to other guys about Max.

But I know I know Billy said that you already knew this. You already knew this. Yeah, I know. You're subspecialists. Auditability Bellison.

I love you, guy. Ryan, I don't know you. I like Billy. You probably had those guys in in it ESPN. So Dion once told us it was a very apt thing, like about the locker room dynamic. He's like, there's at least two guys in every locker room. That's an I love you guy where you have to check in with him and be like, Hey, man, I love you. Like, straight up. I love you just so that they don't go crazy.

That's Billy.

No, no, that's that's not why I love you, guy, by any means. Sounds like to me, brown Tom Brady literally is making love to Antonio Brown to keep him like playing football, keep living in this house.

He's the ultimate I love you guy YouTube.

This is awesome because every time it sounds like big cats going to compliment Billy, it's. No, not no.

I guess that's the whole. And then every now and then I might be a podcasting.

I love you guy. Now I think about yeah. You are a lot different now. Philly, you know, for real broadcaster world. I mean, yo Hank, cut this part. Cut this part. I love you dude, I. I don't believe that. Yeah. I love you for real.

Anyway, I do like Philly though. I do. Yeah. It's a big influence on me when I was 18 and.

We came to ESPN, he doesn't want to hear that doability because now it's like they know it's a company that I looked up to and only benched 285 out. What was the big influence? Well, I just like we went to his show and it was like really like big for me. I was like it was like I was it was so cool to see, like, what was going on. It was like a big moment in my.

OK, but you're leaving you're leaving out a very important part. You didn't know who I was.

All I look, I'm not I was like, you know, I don't listen to the radio is 18, but now I'm like, I got into that world. I'm like, wow.

Like, you know, like podcasting is a gateway drug to radio.

Yeah. Yeah. This is what is the best in show. It's like Sting or no Zoolander thing is one of my heroes. I don't really listen to it.

I was like, wow, this is really cool. I wanna be like this guy. What did you bring that 50? When did you like like really start like what did you think I'm going to do?

All right. I'm going to look understand. How old are you? Absolutely. I'm going to tell you the story right now. Perfect. Keep this in.

I can't believe we ended up on this. Whatever. It's pretty good.

I was skinny, skinny, skinny, OK, like and that's why I always think it's ridiculous that, like, if you call somebody fat, that's like, hey, you shouldn't do that to fat people. It's like, well, where were the skinny rights? Where are the skinny people rights? Like no one ever thought about skinny people. And I mean, I ended up having to go to like a specialist at some point. I was so skinny.

And that's also another thing that's happened where there's still guys in college. In college, I started to fill out a little bit like one 85 or 90 towards the end. But my friends get so mad when everybody thinks I'm like this epic, tough guy now because I'm big and I don't smile, which is probably just all because I don't have hair and it's all sort of some way to compensate. It's some connection. But like one guy in an email thread got super mad when somebody was talking about how tough I was.

He's like, I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this. Like you were nothing in college. I'm like, I'm not saying it. I'm admitting it. Like, you know, none of us. We went to Vermont. No one ever kicked any of our asses. It didn't matter because there was no one there.

So the point is, is that I got sick of that to the point where I was like, all right, this is it. And I filled out like twenty six. And then for whatever reason, there was one day and I'll never forget Boston Sports Club, Watertown, I put on two twenty five, which I can only do a few times. And then I asked a guy for a spot and I did it 13 times and the guy thought I was messing with him because I was like, hey, can I get a spot.

He's like, how many? I was like, we'll just see how it goes. I'm like, hopefully a few good ones. And it just I don't know, it was like some magic trick where it just all came together. So for the people out there that don't have that strength right now, you know, sometimes everybody's I was a super late bloomer in that reason. Like, right at 28 is an all my man strength happened and then it was just, you know, off the charts.

Now I'm hurt all the time. But that's just because I don't want to lose any.

So it was just that one day or from that point on, you like that from that point on body, it was so weird. From that point on, it was never it was never the same. It wasn't like the next time it was a fluke. I couldn't it's so weird. And I'll never forget the guy looked at me like, what are you fucking with me? Like you needed a spot because I was just like, No, no, don't touch it.

And I was like, oh, my God. You know, it was like the end of some 80s movie where you're just awesome all of a sudden.

So right now, Billy's too polite to be asking this question, but I can see the wheels turning in his head. Yup. Billy wants to ask you what type of steroids you took before you hit the gym that day.

He's not going to ask you to show us your nipples. Where does he live? Was there any correlation with the hair loss?

No, you know what, it started coming out in 01 and was the first time a buddy did like there was a weird angle at a house party and he was like, you know, he is one of those guys. His hair was thinning. I was at that point the young guy in the group. I was always the young guy in the group. And then I magically became the old guy in the group, which happens, I guess.

But he was like, whoa, whoa, Rosillo, Rosillo, hold on, hold on, hold on. And I'm like, what? Like, what did I do? And it was right in front of everybody at the party in like he had me sit down at a bar stool like by the kitchen island and started examining it from up top was like, dude, you're going to go bald. And I was just like, no, I'm not.

And I remember there was a hairdresser that I would go to and I was like, hey, sometimes I feel like it's fallen out, like, what's going on back there? She's like, you're good. She's like, you just have really thin hair. It's not a big deal. And then the girl I was seeing at the time was already like kind of prospecting a bit like a gold mine.

She's like, what do you think he would do if you did? Like, you probably get it fixed, right? You probably get plugs or something. And I was like, yeah, definitely. And then for whatever reason, I didn't I tried to get Propecia from a doctor in Boston and it was like the best combo ever. I was like, hey, my shoulders kind of messed up. I'd like to start training differently. And I also like Propecia.

He was like, no and no. And then I lost all my hair.

Have you thought about becoming the weird guy? Yeah. Toupee. I would love to have a toupee. I just can't believe there's never been a pro wig phase ever. Right. Right. How come there hasn't been like, you know, hey, remember when wigs were in in the late 90s?

How come, Ryan? Because I think everybody's waiting for someone brave enough to be the first guy to do it. I want to do it. I want to go bald so I can have a toupee and like, dare I don't say that to bring it up? No, seriously, I want people to be like, yo, you got to pay Mike. What the fuck are you talking about? Dude is all real, right?

What if you showed up the courts? Yeah. Like, I want dare people to say I could say something. Dude, say something about my toupee.

I know you're look, have you ever called somebody out for a toupee because I'm noticing them.

Yeah. No, but look Ravich call Ravich Bill Self Lokey.

The bald guys nowadays like they give off low key, like Johnny Sin's vibes.

Which other vibes? Like Drucilla. I feel like that's enough for Billy. We're done. I've never taken steroids, by the way, Billy. Billy, you don't have to you don't have to take steroids. I never did.

Do you want to be on his podcast, by the way? Yeah, I like Billy, yeah, Billy's podcast is literally who's taking steroids. That's the name of the podcast and you just guess who's taking steroids. It comes out every day. He looks at the most recent shirtless pictures of guys like athletes that came out and examines the nipples.

Yeah, Billy's on his own show because, you know, the next the next asshole that goes how I got ripped during the pandemic. And it's like on Hollywood Reporter and Men's Health and all this stuff.

And you're like, you just did a fucking cycle. Yeah. It's such a bad it's such a bad like. Oh, which Avenger got ripped the last two weeks and you just like you know what, it's totally unfair to the rest of us that are all natural and it's just playing little guys like Billy. It's in there and it's it's in his head constantly rising.

Need to be looking at it at Hawkeye's LAT's. Yeah.

He's standing. He's standing up for you.

Who's that guy recently who got ripped off?

Ronnie Coleman. No, Mike Tyson. Yeah, I sent Mike Tyson a picture of Mike Tyson to Billy last night. I was like, check out his nips, let me know what you see. And he's like, well, he did steroids back in the 90s.

Well, he's always talking about how steroids don't make boxers good and soft skills against steroids can make you good.

Yeah, I'll tell you what it puts it makes you get really good shape pretty quickly if you're about to fight. Yes, yes.

Yes. All right. Well, how do we how do we get back to the triple?

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Oh yeah. The New Zealand Breakers. Yes. On the right. Are you guys no longer investors. No. We still do coach on the team.

Yeah. A lot of other people. Shawn Marion one of them amongst others. But RJ Hampton, he was going to be a lottery pick going into this year.

I saw some I had like between 10 and 20 anywhere in that in that span. Where do you see him? Yeah, that's about right.

I think Ten's probably early. So you go maybe Tyrell Terry, somebody he's competing with because they're both guards that are probably completely different types of players. RJ is the best athlete in the draft. Maybe some would say it's Anthony Edwards because Edwards is bigger and very athletic and all that kind of stuff. But RJ, like, I never would worry about him being out of shape. His high school numbers are insane. He reclassified. So you go out earlier.

You know, I got to talk to him. He he told us on the pot, he's like, you know what? I was going to go to Kansas, which I thought was pretty interesting because he got a ton of heat from Duke fans. I think Duke fans got more mad about it than anybody else. Where is if we were doing a seeding of sixty four types of people, would it would have one seed be adult who goes after recruits on Facebook when they turned down their school?

So one seed, that's a strong two seed. I think for me the number one seed is always going to be adult male autograph seekers.

That and then so that's that's definitely really nice.

I would like the luggage. And then sometimes they'll make kids run up to the year and try to get the autograph.

That's one seed in the east. I think one seed in the Midwest is dude who updates his team's record in his Twitter bio.

Are the Twitter handle unironic now? That's almost it's OK to leave you if you have a team's record and you're your handle or the more emojis, the worse the content. It really is amazing. You're like, oh, Arie's moon fire, thumbs up and be like, OK, you're on top of. Every piece of breaking news like you always have stuff to say about that. Have you guys ever had to deal with autograph seekers or is it only selfies if you've wondered on autobiographically?

Because almost all selfies, which are not bad because like, you know, that the person just wants a picture with you, right? If it's an autograph seeker, which you see at the Super Bowl sometimes, and these guys are just like the slimiest weirdos, I don't know what hole they crawl out of, but they're just really strange guys that you absolutely know at some point did a bid for some weird shit. And they're just like sitting there with their stack of merchandise, sending their little minions out to run errands from like they're Oliver Twist orphans.

It just creeps me out.

You know what?

That's the cousin of now that it's popped in my head, that's cousin of dad who has his kid take a picture with the cheerleaders, which it's clearly for him to look at later and see that happening.

You're like, whoa, I'm sure they're more of the same. Yeah.

The Hooters waitress, like, hey, yo, Tommy, go ahead. Take a quick picture real quick. You know, like it's just a little eight year old with all these cheerleaders and he's going home and he's looking at that picture.

He hasn't figured out that Mr. Skin exists. Yeah. Now, that's a good one.

Like I remember coming home sometimes when I was younger, I turned the TV on. I'd be like, why is Club MTV on?

Brooke, what's wrong? What's your name? Brooke. Whatever with E Wild on wild on TV. Yeah, but also Brooke something. Fuck.

Brooke Burke, Brookpark. Yeah. Yeah. What about the legend.

What about guys that re tweet porn onto the timeline that like C C like a ten second clip, a porn movie. I got to share this. Or do you buy on on their favorite porn stars.

Amazon wish list. That's awesome. You'll never get to see some boobs.

I mean the porn cat fishing right now on both Instagram and Twitter are out of control. They pick up around the holiday season. Yeah. And somebody who's been by himself for quite a while, I've I've had moments where I was like, all right. Like if I get catfish right now, like, all right. And then I got one on Christmas from like a Russian boat. And I was like, on Christmas.

On Christmas. You had to do this. But what I love when you'll see, like, OK, who do I get followed by? Like, OK, this is like seven different people here and all the pictures are posted in the last thirty minutes. And then I'll see like they follow you and PFG and then like Craig Kilborn will be Foll or something like that. And then you'll see one of the dudes follow back and I'm up horny horny alert.

Yeah.

There are, there are a handful of guys that we work with here in the office that no matter what, if there is, you can just say Galani Balls, it's there. If there's a girl that tweets at you and you go to a profile, they're always followed by one of its Instagram, like these guys is like, yeah, yeah. Like Hot Chick.

It's always gleni balls like this picture. Yeah.

Which I admit I actually think that I don't, I don't have, I mean just like that, I'm just like cool. I don't have a problem with that. I think there's times when you're like this seems a tad sketchy that this guy that's a very important decision maker is following every weather girl in New Mexico.

Hmm. Mm hmm. That's the gambler. He needs to know what it's going to look like on Saturday. Yeah. I mean, talent and talent evaluation, you know.

Yeah, it is the best part about art, like our job where everything is out in the open and you can't really like ESPN if you caught I don't know if you caught R.S.V.P. following a porn star like, holy shit, I fall porn stars. People try to get me every now. And I'm like, yeah dude, I follow them like yeah yeah.

You guys there's no no one can come in you guys with any of that stuff. Yeah. You just think like oh I'm exhausted. Yeah it is.

I'm brand, it's kind of liberating to have well a combination of like expectations be so very low, but also just like all our dirt's and the Opéra like you can't.

Yeah you can't always. What do you want me to do. Yeah. I used to like or five years ago whatever.

Who still do Pluma sweet. Yeah. That was good. Right. That's good. Yeah I'm familiar. All right. Wait. Right. My biggest question I have for you, is there any stopping Obbie Toppin. The only stopping will be Toppin is himself, probably right. God, you fucked that up, Father. Time ain't no stopping will be Toppin I. How much do you put into a team needing to their their the blogger who covers them needing to sell T-shirts.

How much you put that into draft stock. Because I really just want Obbie topping on the balls so I can sell. Ain't no stopping Obbie Toppin shirts.

You could probably still sell them.

You could go Arja Hampton's dad, which I believe the story goes that whenever there was a chance he was going to sign with a team, his dad would show up with RJ Hampton on a T-shirt with that team's name on it and then sell them. So he's selling like Duke and Memphis and Kansas.

And that makes me that to me is not a red flag. That's a smart. All right, Mark, this is he's going to have some of that DNA and pick everything out.

Obbie beat on college kids and yes, he's a little bit older, but the way he would post and destroy people and the transition dunks, like when you watch him and stuff, it's it's unbelievable.

But he's somebody who I worry about a little bit of like, all right, how much of this transfers over to the NBA?

And defensively when you start to hear Alwi was bored and he was just getting ready for the pros and all that kind of stuff, like, well, I would have would have liked to see him be less bored in some of these games. So he's all over the place. And that's kind of the story. The top of the draft, if you had me, I could do first take solo for a week, not a week. A week would be a long time where I could be sitting in a different suit on either side, like trashing a guy or totally building a guy up.

And that's just how wild the top of this is.

That actually sounds like a great show. I would watch. So. All right. So then give us your top five. Give us your top five, like, just straight listo. All right, well, let me pull up my files here now. Ryan, this is different from a mock draft. Yes, correct. No, no, no, no, no, no. So you can't ever be fact checked on this because it's just your pegboard.

You're like, oh, the T wolves are going to do this.

It's literally if you had one through five, how would you rank, by the way, when we put this clip out?

Have impact on the screen. Yeah. Yeah.

So how does that make sense? I should try and do something different in order to do something to give you my top four and then my fifth one is going to be No. One else's top five. And I'm just going to say, because I like him that much and I kind of can't understand why not. All right. All right.

So it's wisemen. It's Edwards, it's Halliburton. And I'm going to put lamella in there just because of the ceiling and the chance that this this could actually work out. I think a Congo should be mentioned with this group. I do like Danny.

I love Carl Lewis from Alabama.

OK, so he's number five.

I'm going to put him five just to be so you know, in a few years. If I kill it with this, you'd be like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe Rosillo called that. And more often than not, it'll get forgotten whether or not it works. Ever bring it up.

You know, I mean, let's be honest. This interview, the biggest takeaways of benches 285, that's what everyone's going to remember right now.

That's what we're talking about, over 300 before right now. But you set that you set the term limit as being right now.

When you ask Ryan how much he is right now, you could say you could give us all your heartaches. And there's only one thing that's leading this interview. I benched to eighty five.

I know what I was trying to avoid because I was trying to avoid it.

And then it's like, no, it's embarrassing, Billy. I'm just benching like 500. Ryan Ryan also likes what he likes and as we've discussed.

Yes. All right. So wait, so James was all right. And then I also in current NBA, are you like is James Harden really going to go to the Nets?

Is that the most hated team on paper of all time? I love Durant.

I wish he didn't like Kyrie, but even the people that like Durant were like, I hope it happens because he already talked to me. He and Kyrie hit it off at some NBA weekends and then we're like, let's go do this. And I still can't wait.

I almost don't want that to be disturbed to watch that also not work because Kyrie it's so perfect and the only people that stick up for him are the people that he hasn't played for. Right. So it's like who, who knows it better. The people that we're in. And I don't care that he left Boston, I care that he handled it as unprofessionally as you could have. And I'm not even talking about lying to an arena full of people before the season starts.

And if you'll have me back, there's another way to do it. Besides, if you'll have me back, I'd love to stay here. But towards the end, he was like Boston's actually done a really good job of not letting all the negative Kyrie's stuff getting out, because I think the Celtics franchise don't want to be seen as the guys that are just dumping on somebody being petty because then they don't want to make it be like, oh, that's how they treat their players after they leave.

But if Harden were to go there because there is so much antiquated stuff, because he went to the Warriors, even though I love him, that doesn't bother me as much. I get it the Kyrie stuff we've already been over and harden who think about this.

Everything Houston did was because of you, they ran a style that made you one of the most prolific players in the history of this game. But I also think Houston style is it's almost like the best Instagram filter. Maybe Billy can help us with this, but I don't know what it is. Is it gingham wear when you go play in Houston system when it's harden?

You're 25 percent better, you just are like they I mean, think about all the guys that are like me and Austin Rivers is pretty good. Look at Daniel House like this guy, sick Covington looks like a terrific player. All of a sudden. I don't even know a cappella is going to look like not being with a guy like Hardan. And so they go and get Chris Paul because Darrell Moore is trying anything he can. He's got this system.

It's working at least from a regular season standpoint. They win 65 games two years ago. He realizes he doesn't want to play with Paul Paul inexactly. Exactly. Really want to play with him. They trade him for Westbrook. They give up all of these picks in the future to take on Russell Westbrook and his extra money, even though Paul's the better player. And yes, he's older but with shorter money. And they do that for him. And just because they didn't let Harden chime in on the Silus hiring, which is hilarious too, because there's these reports that both Westbrook and Harden have been super respectful of Steven Silas.

Yeah, except for the part where they won't talk to him and they both won out. OK, cool. Yeah. Other than that it's been awesome. And so they do this Westbrook deal, which is clearly not going to work. It is a bad financial investment and now Harden is to the point where he's like, yeah I went out but I only want to go to one team. The only reason I want to have it happen is twofold.

I can't wait to see what it is in Brooklyn because you still it's the it's still about acquiring talent.

So everybody would probably do it, especially if you're giving up the pieces that Brooklyn would be reportedly giving up. But then I want to see Houston fans that have come at me for seven, six, seven years.

I would say maybe five, not eight, but for a really long time arguing, as I've said, hey, I don't like watching this. I don't think it works. It actually came very close, so I give him credit for that. But Harden is propped up probably by like twenty five. Thirty percent, which is absurd usage rates. Do you realize that Harden last year. Of all the players in the NBA of every offensive Houston possession, he had the ball in his hands for just over 50 percent of the time.

So every time Houston was on offense, the ball was physically in his hands for over 50 percent of the time.

Now, you could say, well, that's great, looking at all the production, look at all the stuff that you put up. But I'm not even like he's terrific.

He's awesome. He's healthy. He he he plays every game. He gets to the rim. He's got this body that holds up. He can make incredible shots.

But it's very clear, at least to me and I don't I don't know why more people don't say this, that you almost have to shave off like twenty five percent of it. So to then see what he'll be like with two other guys. Kyrie who needs the ball. Durant who doesn't can do everything because we saw it in Golden State.

I actually kind of want to see it happen now even though I can't believe like Harden might get his way by saying I went out after I helped create this thing. I'm part of the shortcomings. Thanks for all the pics you move. Hey, good luck on having Westbrook at forty seven million in a couple of years. I want to leave but I only want to be traded to one team so I've also destroyed the fucking trade market. Right.

So what about Mike D'Antoni because he's on that coaching staff out there. Presumably he would be on board with that, but he would also know firsthand all this stuff about James Harden, his fit in Houston. Like what? Why would it make sense for him to want, in theory, to bring Harden to to Brooklyn?

Because if there's one thing that's been concerned about this league is that every time you have a chance to add a special player, a top ten player, even the worst, the most anti harden person, you can't put this guy outside of like the top seven or eight. I just when you start saying he's more productive than Jordan, you're like, OK, relax, which is some Darrell Moore. He's argued in the past, which I doubt he's going to argue now that he's not tweeting about the rockets all the time.

But why wouldn't he want to be with D'Antoni? Mike D'Antoni hooked him up. D'Antoni let him do whatever he wanted. No, I don't see why that would be a problem. Saying from the other end, like D'Antoni. Yeah, Tony doesn't matter.

He's irrelevant. He's irrelevant in this thing. He's he's an assistant coach. And you add the player and you worry about it later. And there are times where you go, oh, man, this may not work. You add the player because it's so hard to get these players and then you go ahead and work after year. Now we're going to go ahead and trade somebody else, which is why I've I'm wondering if Kyrie is signing off on this, because you would I mean, look, I can never forget trying to figure out Kyrie, but I could actually see him not loving it at all because now all of a sudden he's he's going to be off the ball a lot more.

Yeah.

It's if it happens it's the most like the rockets and then harden demanding a trade to the nets would be the most this league. Yeah. Like everyone freaking out. And then I saw Harden did the deed to an Instagram story last night where he took off. No cap. Yeah.

No cap, which is just this league. Yeah. POUM got them.

Some are saying it was just a sponsored post for body armor. Oh. He turned down fifty million dollars for it to do a sponsor. Go make it back. Smart guy. Yeah. Microcapsules equity in there. Yeah. Well what's the strip club situation like in Brooklyn. I don't think it's that great. Nood New York is a terrible strip club town test scores.

Yeah, it is hard to even know that. So I want to tell them I don't hang out in Brooklyn very often.

I went to go visit Big Cat once and we walked around to a couple of different bars. None of them had TVs and I'd never heard of any of the beers. I think one had drapes over the windows. Yeah. And I just went, is this that's Brooklyn. Is this what it's like in Brooklyn? Yeah.

And they kind of couldn't tell who was bartending and who was there. Yes.

I always tell people I have more I have more televisions in my home than any bar in Brooklyn has it.

It's not a lie. Yeah, it's. Do you remember that, that all that SNL skit where I think it's Will Ferrell and it's that that play called Red Ships of Spain.

No, no. It's just probably too old for you guys. They had this thing where it was like they did an ad for this musical and it was called Redshifts of Spain. And then it was stupid, but it was still working. And what killed it was they started doing reviews. They were reading out the reviews. They're like The New Yorker says, I just went up on stage and walked around and nobody even care.

That's what it feels like in some of those spots it took me to in Brooklyn, where you're like, am I am I actually on for the next hour or what's under.

Yeah. What's going on here? Yeah.

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I'm getting burned so many times on this because I'll just casually be like, yeah, this is kind of something you're hearing. We should just do one that's horrible and see if it happens.

OK, do it. I'm hearing the Celtics are going to sign Larry Bird with their mid-level. OK. Could have been a little over three corner threes winning attitude, understands the franchise, understands the culture.

OK, that one that one works with who the ball is going to take for real.

They're going to take the floor. I've heard, I've heard that's where Patrick Williams starts. Yeah, part of me really wants to watch Zach Lavine lamella ball play together.

Oh, now, that would be interesting. And I would be cool with Obbie Top and just so I could say it.

Are you are you a Kobe white guy or is it just based on hope? Because already it's funny how the league kind of talks about him as if it's accepted, like he's not really point. He's really more of a backup, which is not what you want to hear.

Yeah, I'm I'm the whole Bulls roster sucks guy. I'm pretty much like get rid of everyone except Wendell Carter about. I still I'm out on him. I still hold out. So much hope for Wendell. It's pretty pathetic. Yeah. Keep him in and get rid of everyone else.

Oh I've got a dumb take. You tell me why this is dumb. I was watching some film today of Halliburton. He looks like he thinks that shooting, but they all go in. What's up with that?

That's exactly what I said to everybody. It looks terrible. He doesn't get off the ground. It's the shot put off the front of the shoulder and it goes in forty one percent.

Halliburton's a really, really nice player. The problem is, is back to that original rule is if you're up high in the draft, you go, man, we could probably plug this guy in and play right away.

And he makes a ton of sense, like, look at Golden State, Golden State. Halliburton would probably fit in better with him tomorrow than any other player in this draft. But if they decided to say I was going to Anthony Edwards because he projects to be you know what he is with that size and all this day we can fix a shooting and he's going to have a million open shots. That's why I don't get on the GMs. There's some things that all of us will be critical of, but those are the times where I go, OK, yeah, like I'm going to side with you even if you get it wrong.

I completely understand the rationale, the rationale of deciding to take a guy like that over Halliburton who fits in with them because Halliburton can play with the ball and off the ball, probably better than any of these other guards.

It's also nice for their job security. Is general manager, not that England state. They'll be an issue, but just like taking a guy that is like right off the bat. You know, he's a development guy. So you can't really be judged on that draft pick for another three years and then you've got three years to maybe lock out on another pick. So it keeps you around for while.

You just hope that he drops like thirty one time in the middle of February and everything to be like, see, he's improving because that's why that's one of the many reasons why so many people hated Henchy in Philadelphia, because you would talk to a guy to be like, oh, so let me get this straight. Like I'm going to lose my job if I don't make the playoffs this year because I've had injuries for a couple of years. And this motherfucker's going, hey, in year six, we'll figure it out.

Yeah. So, I mean, there was not there was not a lot of coworkers on that one going, yeah, I really respect this whole thing. Like, you know, there's tanking and then there's having I think they had six different Hoyas on that bad Hoyas team on the roster at one point.

That's always the only time I'll allow the would Kentucky beat that Sixers team that I think won 10 games and had eight or nine guys play that never played in the league ever again. Might be the only time, like when Kentucky was loaded with lottery picks, that it's even it's even worth having a conversation about.

Sam Henchy, special special person. All right, Ryan, thank you. We know you're busy. Everyone go listen to Ryan Russell podcast. You probably already do. And we got to get you and Billy to lift together at some point soon.

Absolutely. I I'm I'm not down on Billy. I've never been more up. There we go.

I think Billy just needs to maybe he just has to see somebody else be able to lift more than him and then he'll realize maybe I can do it too.

Yeah, maybe today's the first day the rest of your life, Billy. There it is. Today's the first er the rest of your life. I would love if you were my mentor.

Right. Thank you so much. All right. Thanks, Ryan. Thank you, Ryan.

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OK, let's wrap up with guys on ChiX Henry.

Hi boys. First time, long time sub to pfft special shout out to everyone's favorite. Good boy Leroy. I guess my question is all my friends have significant others and I'm single, yet somehow I've ended up becoming friends with all my friends, significant others. This often ends with me in the middle of fights, mediating bullshit and pacifying everyone around me. It seems like everyone's always fighting and they want me to solve it. But on the single one and I don't know why, how did I end up becoming everyone's best friend?

Yeah, that's a. Bad spot to be tough, maybe, maybe you're the one starting all the fights because subconsciously you want to break everybody else up. Yeah, you're also like you definitely just hook up with one of your friends, significant others, and it'll never happen again.

Yeah, but just like it or not, there's like the girlfriend or boyfriend, you know. Like what Hankton understand?

I was saying you got to you got to go to clamp down on one of your girlfriends.

Yeah. There's definitely, you know, the the guy who always has a girlfriend or the girl who always has a boyfriend, there's the opposite and that's what you are. And that's a dangerous spot to be in because you're just always like the third wheel on every single date.

That's that's kind of an awkward spot. It's also just never a good idea. If you never have anybody to report back to about anything, you just get turned loose on the world.

Yes. Yes. Everyone needs a little bit of an anchor from time to time. Yes.

Hello, PMT squad. But especially maybe Billy question mark. Mm. I'm a college freshman in my school is virtual this year.

There's a really cute guy in one of my classes. So do you have any tips for pickup lines I can use to slide into a Zoome dimps. Thank you very much and love the show.

Best way is to just go Jeff Toobin. Just get just caught playing the two of them. Yeah, just spin in the DJ track just up his ass. Yeah. Yeah. Flick into being real quick on the zoo meeting a lot of zoom zoom.

Zimmers will relate to this, but zoom classes suck because during class you're not looking at everyone's faces all the time. But on zoom class you're seeing everybody's face.

So you can't really get away with anything someone's always seeing. Yeah. Can't pick you know. Exactly. Yeah. Can actually jack off. It's terrible. That does look like shit.

I haven't even thought about how much my socks have to take classes. How are your classes going actually.

Really. Well yeah. I'm going to notice when you're talking to Rosily like I'm out of college.

I'm about to be. But you said that you're out.

Are you still in college? I'm still in college.

OK, but having to make sure our boy grad I feel like your grades might be a little too good and that's why you're not able to bench anymore. That's actually you're turning into a nerd maybe. What are you going to do for your graduation party? I know it's just like say, yeah, let's do something real, really sick. Maybe we all go to a petting zoo petting zoo in Vegas. You guys fuck you guys.

If we get a petting zoo for Billy's birthday, even though I wanted a petting zoo on my birthday for the first four years, we did fifty four at the Super Bowl. He graduate one time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's just have a fucking petting zoo on our birthday. Yeah, I thought I'd be great.

OK, we're thirty three.

It'd be sick. You can me. Twenty six.

Hey sepoys especially dad cat. Every time I get on social media it seems like another girl I know has accidentally gotten pregnant. Turn covid and quarantining my pregnancy anxiety is out of fucking control. The past five months I've had five periods and I'm still absolutely paranoid about being pregnant. I'm almost twenty six so in theory it wouldn't be a huge scandal. But I'm also having. But also having a baby would ruin my life. How do I make pregnancy anxiety go away?

Any tips for how to avoid pregnancy other than abstinence. Because congrats to me on having sex. A lot of blowjobs.

I just you get pregnant and you won't be anxious about whether you're going to get pregnant or not. I would say you can't have both babies. Doesn't exist.

That's pretty good anxiety.

So I'm kind of the same way, even though I'm thirty six years old, almost.

If I see if I see somebody on Facebook that I like went to high school with and they've been married to their boyfriend or girlfriend for the last eight years and they're pregnant. My one of my first reaction is like, oh my God, that was an accident. What are they going to do with it? It's like, no, we've been trying to get pregnant for five years.

And finally did we spent ten thousand dollars getting together to bring in like a therapist to figure out how you have not aged in the last ten years.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people pay a lot of money for that type of surgery. That's true. You should start selling it on Instagram swipe ups. Be like, here's my anti aging cream. It's pretty sweet.

Are two more. Hey, big cat, Hank and Jake. I started dating my boyfriend last year when we were seniors in high school. He was the star quarterback of the football team, which was really cool and got recruited to play in college. But he just told me his coach asked him to switch wide receiver. Being a wide receiver, his girlfriend is much less appealing than being Quarterback's girlfriend. How long do I have to wait to dump him without it being obvious?

It's not about him being a quarterback anymore.

Do it now. Do it now. Because you know what? He's you're actually love him. He said he's going he's a wide receiver, but he's really just going to get in on a couple of random special teams players. Yeah. Like what else has he been hiding from you at that point? You can't really trust him or maybe maybe just stay close to him and maybe he'll get drafted by the Patriots and then they'll use one trick.

Play my last one. Sup, Hank Big Daddy cat and taller than average dad of the goodness boy Leroy. My twenty one year old boyfriend won't stop talking about wanting to buy crocs. I think they look cool, but I think they're the worst pairs of shoes to ever be made. Every time I talk badly about crocs, you get so pissed off and wants to buy them even more. If he buys them, I'll be so turned off. What are you guys thoughts, camel crocs are sick, crocs might be making a comeback.

No, we got sent crocs, I think it was Bird Dog sent us some over the summer and I wore them for the entire summer.

I really I'm not by us. They're really good at no vacation. I mean, I wasn't really here. I was at the beach a lot. They're good. If you got to, like, run outside real quick for something or if you're grilling and you just want to put something on to go from your kitchen to outside or if you're in a hurry or whatever, to do something. But I took a picture one time in my crocs and I posted, I think it was on Instagram, and so many people were like, oh, dude, you're rocking them in sport mode.

And I was like, What sport?

And you flip the whole thing. And then it goes from what casual to sport looks, why they're better than slides.

Yeah. So like the back when you have the back of it in its sport, it's sport mode because you're, you're, it's like driving an Audi. Yes. Exactly. Where when you hit that on the open highway and you're like fuck the gas mileage dude.

Those buttons always they're not real, they don't do anything. Although I was driving the Silverado around and I hit one of those random buttons and it was like lowering trailer now. And I was like, what?

Probably did do something on the Silverado. They actually won every other car.

But like, if you ever, ever been in a Saab and there's like all kinds of random buttons that don't do shit in 1994, Volvo one time.

And it was like, you want to enter into into sport traction. I was like, fuck, yes, I do. And I drove 35 miles an hour at school.

Right. So that's I like that. I like the crocs have a true sport.

They do. Yeah. We get to start rocking crocs sport mode.

There's great for opportunities. All right. Those would be the most normal pair of shoes that you own, Billy, between your oh, you are wearing normal shoes, but yeah.

Like Timberland style wise guys on ChiX just rosily every week.

It's not really that would be better. There was nothing about you that everyone. All right, let's finish up with the numbers, but let's all go around. Say something nice about Billy.

No, Billy, go.

Hey, go check out my spreadsheet. It's going to when you say something nice about Billy.

Hey, Stack, this is. Can you think of any. Can't think of anything. He's trying. I've got one already. Hey, I got one to Billy finally one on Monday Night Football game.

There we go. Billy, I think one of your parlay, it was a little hit this weekend. It is because they're all supposed to win and then it's supposed to add up to unhappier than in the playoffs as of now.

And still, Billy, your season ended today. You're the baby Bron of part of my take home.

Bill, you're smarter than you come across. Thank you. Mm hmm.

That sixty nine is the number I want to OK. The only one that guesses the same number every time. No, that's not true. I guess eight.

All right. I'm going to go on such a cop out. One hundred eighty eight billion style agenda. Thank you. I just go with what I like your glasses. Your first. Saying, Aw, come on, 16. Well, roll it again, just for freebees, a freebie roll, freebie roll. I don't want I don't want a free baby or something. I don't want to even hit on this because they'll be thinking no. Second, what was it, 16 the second time, September 22nd of last year?

No, not even the frenzy around 74. OK, we're never going to get one. The grandma of bingo.

It makes no sense. Look, I love you, Grandma, huh? And 75 is the grandpa because of the last two numbers I learned on a cruise.

That's in fact what you.

Billy, give us a bingo 74 75, a racing pigeon sold for one point nine million dollars at auction to a Chinese who I know told me the SLU nut.

I forgot the word for anonymous bidder and.

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