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We gonna rock down to electric pardon My Take isn't about Barcelona sports.

Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, October 30, week eight.

Whip.

Whoop dick first?

Whoop in the new studio? Some spread. We start in Pittsburgh, where Travis ATN.

News Network WAMS Gand gained his way.

To a tough 74 yards on Sunday as Trevor Laurent is too damn high is issuing eviction notices to all the hashtag analysts as he commanded the Jaguars offense on a wet, sloppy day. Naji by nature, said, you down with OPP, which today stands for ouch. Painful picket as he left the game with a rib injury. Doug PED erson was coaching with extra t as the Jaguars yes, the Jaguars have won five straight football games.

Jaguars 20, Steelers ten. We head over to DC. Where Sam Halloween came dressed as a franchise quarterback throwing for four touchdowns with only one sack of candy. Jalen Hurts got out of his gar Funkle, singing Me and Julio down by the schoolyard as Jones scored his first touchdown in the Eagles jersey. And Rod Rivera is such a bad coach, it should be against the law. It was against the law because he's on his way. I don't know where he's going. As KJ. Brown absolutely loved Emmanuel Forbes man to man, leaving Raul John happy with a win. The Eagles 34, the Commanders 31 downed. It was 38 31. We got a producer who's given a little confused look like the Eagles 38 points. The Washington Commanders scored 31 points. Unfortunately, our producer said, you want to fucking go? He said, you want to fucking go? You just wait for the playoffs. I look ridiculous. You don't want to see these Commanders in the playoffs if you're don't.

Down to Big D, where Daxon Bronson Prescott looked Albanian as Sean McVeigh said, hey, you're peeing all over me. The Cowboys took one look at the Rams secondary on Sunday and said, fuck that's. Delicious. Duran DeSantis Bland had quarterbacks in Guantanamo this year, scoring his third pick six on the season, and Dallas showed a lot of force gumption. As Mike McCarthy said, I think you should throw the ball to CD ala Lama. And they did for 158 yards and two scores. Cowboys 43, Rams 20. I started slipping to a Brandon Walker. I was a walker.

Up to Green Bay, where the packers missed their best good friend Bubba Franks, as they were without a tight end again. And Green Bay fans said, I'm not a very smart man, Janae, but I.

Know what love is.

And he stakes as the packers took another shot directly in the buttocks on their season. The big story from this game was the unfortunate injury to Kirk Cousins. But if there's one guy who knows how to look after the welfare of a rich man like Vikings owner Ziggy Wilp, it's the old gunslinger himself, Bret Farr, who would be happy to take a break from his busy schedule of building volleyball stadiums to defraud the Vikings to the tune of a couple million dollars. The Vikings 24, the packers ten.

In Nashville, where DeAndre I. Hopkins isn't waffling anymore, serving up a short stack with three scores after skipping work for the last couple of months. Derek Henry Lockwood has officially returned and will be working every weekend for at least the next three months. Round of applause.

Congratulations.

He's doing his job. It's incredible.

It's the work work balance.

Boom.

Titan fans are riding a huge will, though, after their rookie quarterback threw four touchdowns on the way to a win. Titans 28, Falcons 23.

Down to Miami, where McLemore Jones found his game at the thrift shop. As he said, when I was in third grade, I thought I could play. As for Alabama, I wish I could stay. Juju Smith amy Schuster seems to have lost his role as the new plaything. And a wadalo red, a wadalo white as Tyreek hilly Joel and company continue to put out hit after hit. And Bill Belichick looked like he was going to have a heart attack.

Mac. Mac. Mac. Mac.

Two out of no. By now. The Patriots suck. Dolphins 31, the Patriots 17.

To the desert, where Todd munkin donuts glazed the Cardinals and gave them a cream pie filling. Gus Johnson Edwards teamed up with La Maserati, driving his car into the end zone three times on Sunday. The Cardinals made a furious comeback late when trade Danny McBride said, I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising as he bullied his way into the end zone. But it was all for not as squash. Dobbs turned back into a pumpkin and Harbaugh's team played like a bunch of stallions. Get it. Get it.

Ravens 31, Cardinals 24.

What?

Over to Mile High where Pat sick. Mahomes had the flu.

He had COVID.

No, he had the flu.

Oh.

So COVID and Brussels Wilson didn't look good, but he was packed with vitamins as he hooked up with courtland. Let's give him something to talk about for a touchdown. Jaquan McMillion dollars worth a game made this loss very tough to wallow. And for the first time since my good friend Barack Obama was president, the Broncos beat the Chiefs. They never did it when my good friend Donald Trump was president, or when my very good friend Joe Biden was asleep at the wheel. Broncos 21, Chiefs nine.

Standing on a corner, james Winston down in no love such a fine sight to see it's o loving my Lord speeding in his for getting pulled over by NOPD. Come on, Minshew. Stop throwing pigs, dude. Success isn't owned in sleeves. And now the rams do saints go marching 38 27 and that is the fastest two minutes from week eight. And it's brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a new family with unstoppable grit, and they're the official partners of the Pardon My Take family. And that is the Chevy Silverado ZR two family. The first ever Silverado heavy duty ZR Two joins the franchise to make Chevy ZR Two the only truck brand with a full lineup of trucks ready for wherever your offroad adventures take you. With exclusive multimatic DSSV dampers, rugged, mud terrain tires and up to 14 available camera views, the Chevy Silverado ZR Two and silverado htzr two a family with commanding an unstoppable grit. So head over to Chevy.com. Check out Chevy Silverado and the family of Chevy ZR two s the official trucks. Pardon my take. We are a Chevy Podcast. If you're thinking about getting a truck, become a Chevy person.

Thank you to Chevy, our wonderful sponsor sponsoring fastest two minutes. So head over right now to Chevy.com and check out the Chevy Silver out on the family of Chevy ZR two z official trucks apart. My take. Okay, week eight in the books as we watch the bears get absolutely demolished. We will talk about this game at the end, but PFT, we got a week eight to talk about. We got a lot of games to talk about just before we even get into the first game. Maybe it's age. My brain wasn't able to comprehend nine games at noon. It was a lot. It was overload.

There was a lot of games going on at once. It was hard to keep track of all of them at the same time. But we barely paid attention to the Texans Panthers game.

We had it on the side.

I think we watch it in the last, like, ten minutes of the game. We started tuning into that. But, yeah, it's a lot of football. And listen, I'm never going to complain about too much football.

I'm not.

But I will complain about no. Bye weeks. I think that was kind of fucked up. They did that to us because we had a nice rhythm, especially week eight, right? And then you go no by weeks. We're like, wait, what's going on right now? Because I feel like we're creatures of habit. When you have no by weeks in early September, we're just so happy football is back. When you have no by weeks at the end of the year, there's some teams and games that you can completely ignore because it's completely irrelevant right in the middle of the season, week eight when we're truly finding out like, okay, these teams season is over. This team's in a funk. It was hard. It was hard. It was difficult. We like to watch ball. It was a lot of ball.

I came up with an alternate schedule that pretty much lasts from the start of September until mid May. But you play one game a night for that entire time and then it's the summertime and everybody takes a break.

It is also very funny just thinking about how great our lives are, that the biggest issue is was what was the hardest thing you had to deal with this week? Well, there were nine games at yeah, yeah.

That was tough.

That was tough.

Blake also ate a squirrel this morning. Or sorry, a rat.

That's not a you. He ate a rat.

I hope it wasn't poisoned. We're on Blake watch right now.

When you say ate, do you mean it was swallowed live or dead?

It was dead.

It was swallowed whole.

He picked it up out of the grass and then he started chewing something. I was like, blake, get over here. And they looked at me and then he just swallowed.

Oh, yeah, okay.

He's fine.

Yeah, he'll be fine.

He's a growing boy.

A lot of protein in a rack.

Yeah, exactly. All right, let's get into the games. I would say the most important, not most important game, but most important story from week eight is the first game, vikings 24, packers ten. And it is because of the Kirk Cousins injury which sucks beyond belief. Kirk cousins tears his Achilles. He is going to be a free agent next year. He also was playing awesome ball like he was on the precipice of being in the MVP conversation because the Vikings started to win games. They're now four and three. Like they've rattled off some pretty nice wins or four and four. And it all comes crashing down with the actually, I genuinely feel terrible because we've had a long history with Kirk Cousins on this podcast where we've made some jokes, but I think the last year or so we've appreciated him more than made jokes and it sucks to see this happen when he was playing great football.

Yeah, Kirk Cousins is a he's a very nice guy and so if you know him, he's like impossible to root against. You get frustrated with him sometimes. But I do feel bad for I never thought I would feel bad for Kirk on the brink of another free agency because he's going to make a lot of money. But this is pretty bad timing as far as that goes.

I think it's more bad timing just because the Vikings were to start the season. I mean, they were my pinky team to start the season. It couldn't have gone worse. And the way they've played in the last month with the wide openness of the like they were probably going to be a playoff know. They were winning games without Justin Jefferson. Their defense was playing well, daniel Hunter's leading the league in sacks. Like all these things were starting to come into place for the Vikings and then this happens. It's a bummer.

It's a very big bummer. I'm going to quote flurrier here because he asked a very interesting question. He said, am I the only one thinking that the Vikings should call Tom Brady? I think he might be the only one, yeah. Because you can get your retweets off. You can get your cloud up in the event that any quarterback is injured just by being like, where's Colin Kaepernick? That seems like an easy one to do. You can do. Where's Tim Tebow? But going straight to Tom Brady for the Vikings.

If the Vikings were eight no, do you think that Tom Brady would entertain it?

Let's ask Hank. The Tom Brady whisperer.

I don't.

The Vikings receivers are phenomenal. They're winning games without Justin jefferson. Like I said, Jordan Addison, when we do our rankings of best position groups all time, it's probably going to be Vikings receivers because it feels like they just get generational talent after generational talent. Justin Jefferson is that generational talent. And Jordan Addison is really damn good and has been really damn good in his first seven starts or eight starts.

Yeah.

I think Tom Brady, if they were eight no, he would at least take the call.

I think he would.

He would take the call.

He would take it.

He would take the call.

Yeah, he'd be like, hey, what's up?

Thanks for the call. No.

Oh, I don't know about that.

Okay.

They were eight no, hank minnesota.

Yeah.

Winning a Super Bowl for the first time in the franchise history, open his.

Phone, look at the weather app and be like, Minnesota.

Oh, yeah.

Because they play outside, right?

Yeah.

But just living in Minnesota.

Yeah.

Tom Brady would never live in a cold weather area. That doesn't sound like you'd have to.

Live in Minnesota for three months.

I don't think he would do it.

Okay.

I think he'd take the call.

I think he'd definitely take the call. You would take the call and he'd say, I'm interested. What number? And then he'd be like, yeah, I can't do that.

Yeah, sorry. But maybe if Justin Jefferson called him, what are the Vikings going to do? So Jaren Hill or Jaren Hall? Sorry. BYU, I believe. Yep. Because I bet on him and then Puka didn't play and I got are these are bad memories. Jaren hall backup. Who are they going to like? Taylor Heineken.

I've got a couple answers for him.

Okay.

Because I have a few names as well.

Okay.

Taylor Heineken is one. They should definitely inquire about him. Another one. Colt McCoy. And I keep trying to press Colt McCoy back into the league. I wanted to see him on the jets when Aaron Rodgers went down. I feel like Colt McCoy would be a good answer there. Let's see, who else? Oh, Kyle sloder. Kyle Slater. You had Kyle Slaughter, you had the best preseason quarterback of all time playing on your team. Give Kyle Slaughter a shot.

So, like Florio being the only one to mention Tom Brady, you were definitely the only one to mention Kyle Sloder.

I am, 100%. But they should be mentioning him. Kyle Slaughter is a good player. He is a good football player. Give him a shot.

Yeah. Jacoby Brissette, for sure. I was going to say Justin Fields. I think Tyson. Maybe tyson Pageant. Maybe they've seen enough for him.

I'd like to see Bret Favre come back just for one game and have him get absolutely destroyed. Just like just wrecked. Have him play against the Saints again and have him get just his face mask shoved into his nose.

That would be if what if the Titans sold as high as you possibly can sell on will lettuce yeah, I don't hate phenomenal today.

Tannehill. You could probably get Tannehill for the rest of that's.

Kirk cousins. Adjacent. Yeah, it's actually not a bad idea.

Like Kirk Cousins with if he had, like, a partially torn Achilles, that's what you're getting.

If there was anyone to take this role for the Vikings, I would like it to be a Derek Carr, Ryan Tannehill, or Jimmy G. What about this.

Trade for Aaron Rodgers? Oh, because the jets are hot right.

Now with Zach Wilson faster timeline on his Achilles.

Exactly.

Get him back.

We've finished the whole process.

Get him in Minnesota.

Yeah.

And that would actually complete the aaron Rodgers to Bret Fargo.

Yeah, that's what yeah.

Yeah.

That's what they should do. Memes. What do you say?

Do it.

You like Zach Wilson.

Memes.

He's feeling himself right now.

The jets.

He's feeling himself.

Yeah.

It was a barn burner today.

He's walking around with his chest puffed out. Either way, the Vikings are playing great ball, and now we don't know what's going to happen because it sucks a lot. And they went into Lambeau, and that was never a game. And that's the other part of this story. I foolishly thought this was the spot to back the packers, because it was. The Vikings off a big win against the Niners. The packers look terrible. Turns out the packers are just dog shit. They're just a dog shit team.

They're bad. Did you know that? It continues a 32 year winless streak against the Vikings by the packers unless they have Aaron Rogers or Bret Far playing that's a long time. That they haven't beat the Vikings without.

Aaron Rogers or Bret bret far. Yeah. I think they call them insult stats. I somehow am at the end of a lot of insult stats with the Bears. I found a couple of funny insult stats that I wanted to share with you. PF. Okay. Kind of ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun situation. The brewers, who got swept in the wild card, have more wins in October than the Green Bay Packers.

Oh, wow.

That is interesting.

One to zero. Yeah, that's interesting, right?

It's very interesting.

The Bucks who I think the Bucks played tonight, so it doesn't really matter because they were one and o going in tonight. Their season started, like, four days ago. The Bucks have more wins in October than the packers have touchdowns in the first half of all of October.

That's crazy.

The packers haven't scored a touchdown in ten consecutive first quarter, first quarters, first quarter halves.

Yes.

There's no way. First and second quarter, five straight games, they have not scored a first half touchdown.

There's no way.

That's right. And I'm actually going to have Shane put these on a little graphic for me. I'm going to tweet them out. It's going to be great. I also found one other insult stat that kind of goes back and insults me, but I'm going to say it anyway. PFT. Did you know that Aaron Rogers, in 2018 and 2019 combined those two seasons? So 32 games, he had six interceptions. Jordan Love, in seven games has eight interceptions.

That doesn't sound like a good sign at all for the group.

That's pretty bad. They got to actually give Jordan listen, Jordan Love, he doesn't have an offensive line. The kid's got talent. You got to maybe extend them, give him some more years. Jury juries.

Let's wait till all the facts come out on Jordan Love. I was going to throw in one other insult stat, but I'm not going to what?

Do it. Do it.

Well, no, you're not going to like this.

Oh, you're going to insult me?

Yeah.

Well, it's going to be a well.

Why would you do that?

That's why I'm not going to do it.

No, fair is fair.

I won't do it.

Fair is fair. It's just interesting because the packers just stink, and it's going to take a while for my brain to realize that they stink, but they fucking suck.

I was just going to say, you know what? You know what? Wisconsin's won two games in two. They've won two.

Hey, well, guess what? The Badgers are bull eligible. Yeah, there you go.

The packers are not is JMU. We'll see. We're going to wait till all the facts come out on that one.

Oh, okay. We're playing for a bowl.

Where are you guys ranked? I'm trying to look at I don't see a number next.

I mean, you guys play Sunbelt team 23. Your best win is Virginia looks like.

23. Who beat UNC pretty good.

Who lost to Georgia Tech.

Georgia Tech is a good football program.

UNC great football program. The shine has come off UNC very quickly. We'll talk college football on Wednesday. But yeah, the packers are bad. They are officially a bad team.

They are like there's no they're a bummer. Yeah, they're not no fun to watch.

Isn't that crazy, though? First half quarters, they have not scored a touchdown.

Yeah, that is crazy.

That's so bad. To start out every single game, that's even including a bye week where you'd think they'd come out hot and everything dialed up. No, they just put themselves in holes. And then Jordan Love tries to get him out until he throws an interception.

So here's one step that I saw that I didn't believe at first. Because when you think of the Minnesota Vikings, you don't think of, like, perennial winners, perennial closeout guys on the Vikings, but they're 52 and one when they lead in the fourth quarter in their last 53 games. That's pretty crazy, isn't it?

Yeah, that is pretty crazy.

Their one loss is the Blair Walsh game where he missed, like what was that? Like a 30 yarder Seahawks against the.

Seahawks in that game when it was like zero degrees.

But the Vikings just don't lose if they have a lead in the fourth quarter, they will win the game.

Wow.

That is actually a pretty impressive it's wild, right?

Because you don't think of the Vikings as being like they'll stomp on your throat.

Yeah.

Don't give them a lead in the fourth quarter.

Yeah.

You think of the Vikings playing like weird close games, but no, if they have a lead in the fourth, they will kill you.

I don't know. I was looking at the Vikings schedule. I still think if they can get even anything out of hall, like, it's going to be tough because Kirk Cousins was playing great, but they still could salvage some of their season. It will be interesting because now we're one day away from the trade deadline.

I think it's Tuesday.

Is it Monday?

Or is it Tuesday?

So they might start trying to unload some things.

I got another guy, Teddy Bridgewater.

Yeah.

Bring him home. Yeah, he's in Detroit right now. We're in number 50.

That would actually be perfect.

It would be cool, wouldn't it?

Tuesday 04:00, p.m. Eastern Tyson Pageant just threw his third interception of the game.

He might not be the guy.

He might not be the guy. That's okay. He's a fun guy. We tested it. It's actually better. You know what ha I'm laughing.

You're trying for a draft pick. You're trying for the first overall pick.

Well, not only that, but you don't want to have a QB controversy. It gets all messy, and people got to take sides, and people got to argue, and you basically have to walk around and have this conversation everywhere you go. No, it's fine. He's a fun, moxie guy, and he might be a backup for a very long time.

He might have the it factor.

Yeah.

That doesn't mean that he's good.

Right.

But he's got the It factor.

Right.

He gets rid of the ball quickly. Okay, so next game. Next game. Eagles 38, Commanders 31. I'll start with some Eagles stats, and then you can tell us PFT, how you're feeling. AJ. Brown is absolutely ridiculous. After the week two win against the Vikings, when he was seen arguing with Jalen Hurts on the sideline. Remember, Jalen Hurts had to answer questions in the media.

AJ.

Brown didn't speak to the media. Since that moment, he has had over 125 yards in six straight games, and that is an NFL record. It's absolutely ridiculous how good he is. And the Eagles are better than the Commanders, although the Commanders play him well.

Yeah, I think that's probably a fair thing to say. It's going to be a close game. So that's why, Max, you don't want to see us in the playoffs. If we make as the, what, 6th seed, if we get in there as a six seed and you guys are well, no, then you'd be trying to remember how the seeding works there.

They don't want to play us. They'd have to be a two seed you'd be a seven seed and then.

You don't want to play us. Yeah, that's a fact. Sam Howell had a great day today. Sam Howell looked until he did well. He threw one bad interception, but he also could have won the game a couple times. Terry McLaurin had some bad drops. I'm more concerned about what it is Ron Rivera does on this team. There was a moment when the Eagles were driving. It was fourth and four. They completed a pass to Devontae Smith. Ball hits the ground, they rule. It a catch on the field. Rivera stands there on the sidelines with his transition lenses darkening, depending on whatever his mood is at the time. It's like a mood ring for his eyes. Doesn't do anything. Doesn't say anything. The Eagles sprint up to the ball. They run a play, like really fast, get the snap off. Then they asked Rivera after the game why he didn't challenge. And he said, Well, I didn't see the replay on the Jumbotron, so I didn't want to throw. My answer is that is that how we're running things now, where your coach waits to see on the Jumbotron and decides whether or not to throw a flag.

And he's like and then the Eagles are sprinting up to the ball, trying.

To run a snap.

And so I ran out of time to throw. Why do you think they were sprinting up to the ball? Ron, what do you do here? What does Ron Rivera do? Here is my big question.

Team, Michigan State and Ron Rivera. The Jumbotron let us down.

It did the Jumbotron let us down? Ron Rivera. Let us down. It's bad. We're going to be probably trading away either sweat or young by this time tomorrow when the show comes out.

I heard maybe bears.

I've just reached the point where I will be rooting for whatever team gets young or sweat. Yeah, it's like root for your guys. That's why I like cheering for Trent Williams. When you're a really bad team, you develop all these different layers of Cope and all these different habits that you pick up through years of ineptitude. And one of my favorite ones is just rooting for guys that I used to root for. But I tell myself, you know what? It's more about these guys that were so much a part of the fabric of the community. Big cat when they were around. You want to see them do well when you go somewhere else, which is why I was so disappointed when Trey Turner and Bryce Harper got out in the 9th inning. That was tough for me personally, as just a fan of the community. Mean what you're doing, but no, congrats, Max. You guys are a better team. Although Sam Howe, I do think so. Here's where I'm at with Sam Howe. Sam Howe is the guy.

He played very well today.

He is the guy.

He was Peyton Manning.

He was. Amazing today. He might have been the best quarterback in the NFL this entire week. He was that good.

Will Levis.

He was fun to watch. Will Levis was yeah, he was.

Jalen Hurts.

He was really, really good. Jalen hurts.

Did okay?

No.

Is he all right? Is he, like, fully jalen Hurts played very well.

He did play very well.

324 touchdowns.

Yeah, he played very well. But he's not healthy.

No, but that just goes to show how the heart of a lion that guy has. That's my guy. That's my quarterback. You can tell that he's not 100% right now. Mostly getting on and off the field. He is, like, hobbling to the sideline every time, but he just goes out there and takes hits and wins football games.

That's your guy. That you have his back. If anyone says they hope Jalen Hurts gets hurt, max will just sit there on his hands and do absolutely nothing. That's how much of his guy is that's not true. Exactly what happens.

Stern speaking to and he'll also think.

About what he should have said, like, two days later, and they'll say that the French actually have a term for that. They call it staircase wit, where you make it down the staircase and you're like, Ah, that's what I should have said. That's what I should have said. I'm going to go back up.

But yeah.

Congrats, Max. The Eagles were, I think, a better overall team today. Definitely. Our offensive line played really well, though.

Yeah, the only one sack.

Yeah, it was cool. Like, when you give Sam Howell time, he can absolutely pick you apart. The Eagles took advantage of a ridiculously bad defense. And if you're Ron Rivera, and you and Jack Del Rio are apparently in charge of this defense, do you think that the best way to get the confidence of your first round pickup is to Cinnamon man to man coverage with Brown again, like, that's exactly where he lost all of his confidence. Let's go out there and let's get Emmanuel Forbes torched again on the outside.

But played him tough.

The Eagles are a very good team. Very good team. Max, I also think this is the.

Second time we've played the Commanders. I've only watched Commanders from start to finish two times. Commanders look like a good football team to me.

I've only watched Commanders start to finish once.

They sucked. Yeah, the bears true.

No, actually, no, the Commanders are I've said this before. The Commanders have a lot of really good players. They just, as a cohesive team, don't play like, good football. Like, they have guys that are really fucking good at football. And then when you put them all together and have them stand on the same side of the field, it's like, Wait, what happened? Yeah, like, Terry McLaurin and Johan Dotson are great. Brian Robinson is awesome. Logan Thomas is good. Sam Howell is good. Defensive line is good.

What do you think the common denominator in all this is coach? It might be the coach.

It might be the coach.

It might be ron.

Might be the coach. Ron just needs more time in defense of Ron Rivera. It's probably got to be a weird feeling to have ownership change. Know you're going to get fired. Like, everyone's had a job where they know we know where this is going. We know where this is heading. It's kind of like Hank right now with barstool. Like, we know where it's heading. We'll take our time off. We just aren't going to put in a lot of effort.

What you're doing your best Ron Rivera impression right now.

You're not talking. No, but it is like, if anything, Ron Rivera should be commended as being a relatable guy. Like, you've had a job that you know that it's not going to work out long term, and you kind of just mail it in.

He's been checked out for, I'd say, like, a year and a half.

Yeah.

So his job was basically to bring in some sense of stability to the organization, because when Snyder was running the team, it was like every other week was a dumpster fire of epic proportions. And Rivera's job was just to go up there and be like, say the word. Like, certainly a lot like, we're certainly going to look into a lot of these things, and certainly this is a tough job, and you got to keep your eye on the big picture here. And certainly as a head coach, that's what I'm going to was he's very good at saying he's like, Roger goodell in coach form.

Is there a chance, because I think the change of ownership ron Rivera knows how this works. Once the owner gets changed, he's going to bring in his own guys. He's going to let the year play out. Is there a chance Ron Rivera is an AWL and he stopped trying because PFT kept on saying that the deal has been done for the last year and a half. The timelines match up. There's a chance the timelines match up.

No, we saw him on the side of the road time, and he wouldn't get in the car.

Well, I mean, we also were, like, six deep in a car, and we're like, hey, Ron, coach, get in the car.

Yeah, but you know what? But if he was in AWL, mike McDaniel would have gotten in the car.

Yeah, that's true.

Like a fun coach.

He'd have sat on our lap.

Yeah, for sure. We could just in the trunk.

Rable would have jumped on the roof. This is my car now.

Yeah. Rivera was just walking sadly by himself at the combine, like, five blocks away from where any events were happening. That should have been a clue, where.

He probably was just going on a.

Walk, clearing his mind, being like, So, I need to sell my house soon. I got to get on the market, hire a Realtor. My kids might have to switch schools.

No, but he probably was walking by himself being like, this PFT guy said the deal was done. He put on T shirt. He put T shirts out, and the deal hasn't been done. What are we doing here?

I was right.

Yeah.

Rivera he knew that he was gone going into the season, too, because he gave a preseason press conference where he said, this is a very tumultuous time for the franchise, and I don't know if I'm going to be here next year. So my job is to set the team up with as good player. He sounded like he was checked out already once the season started, and he's certainly coached like a guy that's 100% checked out on everything.

Yeah.

So I don't know what Josh Harris's Mo is. Max, maybe you can tell me as he owns the 76 Ers. He's done, I think, a great job. He got an MVP there. I would love an MVP for the.

Commanders almost Eastern Conference final appearance.

Yeah.

He has the confetti ready to go at any given time. But I'm just curious to know, from your perspective, will he fire a coach? Well, I guess he didn't fire Doc.

Rivers midseason, did he? How has Max been owned this much while we're talking about his seven and one, this is the best team in the NFL right now, record wise, and we're just finding a way to just twist the knife on it.

It's all I have. I'm trying to deflect from the fact that I have to get a perm.

Max yes.

Okay.

Yeah, you do have to get a perm. You do have to get a perm.

Where does one go to get a perm?

Sport Cliffs.

Sport Clips. Okay.

Yeah, they'll perm you up.

I'm going to get so fucking permed.

Perm. Edwards yeah. You're going to look great, Max. I will give you a chance here. You're seven and one. Jalen. Hurts. Is hurt. Dallas this week.

We're on the Dallas. We're on the Dallas.

So how are you feeling overall about the Eagles? Like, just stay as healthy as you can and keep winning games.

Winning this week would be huge because then you got the buy coming up next week. You got to get healthy. I still think there's probably going to be a move or want I don't want to say it.

No, say it.

Say it's. A podcast. Just say it.

We may go after Derrick Henry.

Oh, okay.

You do think that every good player belongs.

Those were rumors that were coming out great.

And Kelly Green, those were rumors that.

Were coming out like last week. And then Kenneth Gainwell had the big fumble today, and they obviously don't want to put too much on DeAndre Swift, so they want to go two backs. But if Kenneth Gainwell is not going to be the guy and Derek Henry.

Is available what about Jonathan Taylor? He just signed a new deal.

Yeah.

Did you see the I don't know if it's 100% true or not that Kenneth Gainwell was replying to DMs during halftime?

Is this true? Oh, no, Mac.

I did not see that. But I said, I literally never want to see Kenneth gainwell again. And then he actually had a pretty decent game after that fumble, but I.

Still would you never want to see him again? You want to die on the football field?

What kind of DMs are we talking about? Hank?

The guy said, Hold on to the football, you fucking bum. Agreed at 206.

Wait.

Are these from Philly? Max de Lente.

I think so. And then he replied, Little boy. Don't text me little boy.

That sounds like Jersey Jerry DM.

That was a little boy play. Yeah, that phone was a little boy play.

Okay, so no more Kenneth Gainwell.

Yeah.

And beat Dallas.

And beat Dallas.

Beat Dallas. That's going to be a fun game.

Yeah, it's a scary game, but it's at home. Apparently the get in price is $500 right now.

Well, probably less than that on game.

Yeah.

Game time. Last minute deal. You'll be fine.

I have a hypothetical. I verbalize this during the game, but I want to get everybody's opinion on this, because I was thinking about we were watching the Browns game simultaneous to when the Commanders are playing the Eagles. We have a very good backup quarterback on our team, jacoby Brissette. He has some history in Cleveland. He was pretty good for the Browns. They love him there. If you were the Browns, would you take a trade, jacoby Brissette for Deshaun Watson? Straight up, right now? If it meant that the Commanders would have to take on Deshaun Watson's entire salary, would you, like, wash your hands of Deshaun, no pun intended, and move on and say, okay, we're going to cut our losses? Deshaun, there's a lot of money tied up for him. We know that Jacoby is like an average to maybe slightly above average quarterback. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to say because Deshaun Watson is like obviously his upside is way, way better than Jacoby Brissette's, but there's definitely a part of that front office that is like, we really fucked up with this.

Yeah, I don't think they would.

No. You don't think so?

No.

Would the commanders want that?

No. I'm saying I don't want it.

You don't like Sam Howe?

I said I don't want it. Good point.

I have seen Sam Howe play two football games very, very well. I think Sam Howe is a good quarterback.

Yes. You're not sold on what I just said.

Sam Howe. The guy.

What I say?

Five minutes.

I just know. Rewind the tape. You guys are putting words in my mouth. I just said Sam Howell is the.

Guy, but you don't say with your.

Heart, sam Howe is the fucking guy. He's the most guy ever. He is the guy.

The guy a guy.

How he played today is better than I've seen a Washington quarterback play probably since, like, RG three's rookie year.

Kirk Cousins.

Kirk Cousins had some nice games in there. I would much rather have if you were to ask me next season, sam Howe or bring Kirk back, it's coming home.

Well, yeah.

Sam Howe.

What about Sam Howell or Deshaun?

Sam Howe.

Sam Howell or Kale Williams?

Sam Howe.

Sam Howell or Drake may.

I don't know yet.

Okay.

They're such good friends, they would probably want to play together.

Okay.

I think Sam Howell is the fucking guy.

Okay?

Not only is he the guy, he's the goddamn motherfucking.

Okay. Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Is that good enough for you, Max?

It's good enough for me.

Listen, you know what? You know what?

You've done.

Thank you, Max. Thank you for doing this, because now I have realized that this season is a massive dub for me because you.

Found I have the guy. Found your quarterback.

I have the quarterback. I had no illusion of making the playoffs. Maybe super creeped in my brain at one point, but going into the season, I did not think we were going to make the playoffs. I did not have any expectation for it. We just got a new owner who rocks. Our old owner is off somewhere, probably like, I don't know, drowning in the Mediterranean, and we have a quarterback, a franchise quarterback. I am happy with that. I'm very, very happy. I'm so happy. Yeah, this has been I basically won the Super Bowl.

This definitely when you found your guy, like, talking yourself into it for, like, three minutes like this, that definitely happened.

Yeah, he's the guy.

And also bringing up hypothetical trade situations where you trade for a bad quarterback.

And a bad person. That was mostly a double whammy.

That's what I'm saying. That's how soured I think the Browns are on this whole situation to the point where they would even entertain doing that if they meant get Jacobi Brissette back. I don't know, maybe Browns fans would think that that would be insane. But they do want Jacoby Brissette back. That was more about that side of the equation, not about my side. Because I do not want it seemed exactly like is. It is. If the commanders trade for Deshaun Watson. I won't watch another Commanders game while he's a quarterback.

How about that? Wow.

How about that?

That's huge.

Don't want him.

Take a stand.

Don't want him. Many people in the media are talking about the Commanders potentially trading for Deshaun Watson. I'm just going to say I don't.

Want you don't want him. You don't want him. Okay, next game. Oh, the tush push failed. That was awesome. Fumble.

Yeah.

No, that's a failure.

That's a failure.

A fumble is a failure.

A fumble is a failure.

I think that actually was smart by the you know, you got to fail a couple times. That way the Stephen Chase of the world can stop crying about this play.

Working all and then the fake tushbush.

Was also so that not not the worst idea if the Eagles threw in a couple fuck ups here and there.

A couple wrinkles to the still. I like the play.

Yeah, I do, too.

It's a good playball, and you've seen teams try to copy it, and it's not the same.

It's truly football. Okay, next one. Jaguars, 20, steelers, ten. The Jacksonville Jaguars have won five games in a row in a wet, sloppy game where Kenny Pickett goes out with an injury. Mitch Risky comes in, didn't play great. Did the Bears just get the football? They're down 17. Maybe they did. My big takeaway from this game is that the Steelers have a recipe with this Steelers team on how to win games, and it's to make it ugly, play defense, and then have this heroic fourth quarter like couple balls. Bounce your way, and all of a sudden, you're winning the game when the recipe works, like, three quarters of the way, and then it fails in the fourth because Kenny got hurt. They just look like a bad football team. Yeah, because you watch the whole game saying, oh, it's only a seven point game. OOH, Steelers are in this game. And then when it doesn't happen, you're like, oh, so you guys were just never planning on scoring?

Yeah, the entire game. It was like the Steelers got them right where they want them. Right where they want them. Right where they want oh, wait. Shit, the game's over.

Yeah.

And then, so without the actual ending that the Steelers have come accustomed to, it's like, oh, wait, they actually kind of stink.

Well, it wasn't really the Steelers that lost the game, according to Deontay Johnson. It was the referees, actually.

Yes.

So he said, I know that we don't blame losses on the refs, but they was calling some stupid stuff. They should get fined for calling bad, making worse, terrible calls and stuff like that. That's how pissed I am. They cost us the game. I don't care what nobody says. They cost us the game. So I actually agree with you said.

They must have got paid good today, or yeah, yeah.

I don't disagree with Deontay Johnson that refs should be fined if they fuck up calls.

Yes.

And the fine should be public.

Yes.

And should be a public town square.

Throwing tomatoes at their they could they could do it that way, or they could get on a big duckboat and go through Pittsburgh and just throw a bunch of like throw their cash out in ones. To any Steelers fan that wants to.

Pick it up, the Jaguars are just a good football team. So five in a row. And, yeah, I think they are a very good football team. Hashtag Pete Briscoe was look, they're playing great football. They do get the Niners off a buy next, so that will be a good test for but, like, even in a wet, sloppy game, trevor Lawrence didn't have his best game. But you know what? Urban Meyer smart. Travis Etienne, he drafted him in the first round. Everyone's like, you don't draft running by the first. That guy fucking is good at football.

Yeah, he is.

He won them that game.

There was that one catch that he had, though, where he just decelerated as he was trying to sprint to the end zone. I've never seen a player get slower faster than Travis ATN did on that one. But yeah, he was, like, running through the secondary all afternoon.

And the Jaguars defense has been playing great. Think I think it's now become because every time a team like the Jaguars like, the Jaguars are the Browns, the Bears ever get good. Like, there's certain franchises where if they get even the Lions right now, if they play good football, I think our natural belief is like, well, no, it's the Jaguars. They can't be no, no, they're good. They're just a good football team. It's no longer yeah, it's just the Jaguars. They're a good football team.

They are very good. I would say they're a very good football team.

Yeah.

And Trevor Lawrence, he walked back his terrible towel comments, which I was a little bit disappointed to see. If you go into Pittsburgh and you beat them after insulting the terrible towel, you should then take that towel and do like what the Titans did. Stomp on it.

Well, wipe your butt with it. The jaguars did do that.

Oh, they did.

The Jaguars, after an interception, went and there was probably three guys went and stole towels out of fans. I love that.

Good.

Which that's a felony in Pittsburgh.

Yeah.

Those guys who got their terrible towels taken, they are within bounds to go hunt them down and beat the fuck out of them.

That's theft, technically.

Right.

It's theft of the highest degree.

Another man's possession.

It's grand theft larceny.

It's grand theft towel.

It is.

Yeah.

Remember our coworker, Jen Simons, who was a big Steelers fan, and she had a terrible towel, and she was like, I think we needed it for a skit once for advisors, and she was like, this has been passed down my family through generations. This terrible towel means a lot.

Yeah.

You can't take someone's terrible towel in Pittsburgh.

But I love the fact that they did.

Yeah.

Like, I agree. It is theft of the highest order in Pittsburgh.

It's like stealing a child, stealing someone's child.

But I love the fact that they're leaning into the rivalry with the towel, because we haven't seen a man versus towel rivalry like this since the Titans did it back in the late 2000s, where they stomped on it on the field, and then, like, two years later, I think it was who was it? Maybe James Harrison suplexed Vince Young and said, like, that was for the towel later on.

But you don't fuck with the towel.

I like the football player versus towel rivalry.

Yeah, it is officially on. And the Jaguars I mean, the Jaguars have the Steelers number. It does feel that way.

Yeah.

It feels like every time they the so the Steelers play Thursday night. We'll see if Kenny's okay. They said they're going to monitor it. Rib injury. I thought it was a shoulder. It was an old Drew Brees thought it was a shoulder. It was actually a rib. Yeah. I don't really know what to make of the Steelers. I think they're just going to hang around all season, win a fair share of games, but I'll never feel fully confident until I see their offense put together a full game where they look good. And even when Kenny was in today, it didn't look that way.

I think I read that it's been something like 50 games, maybe more than 50 games since they've had 400 yards of offense, the Steelers. And what I think is going to happen with this team, it's not going to be a surprise. I think they'll end up they'll win a bunch more ugly games. They'll go nine and eight, and Mike Tomlin will still never have coach an under 500 team.

Yeah.

And then everybody in Pittsburgh is going to be like, can we do something about Mediocre Mike? And then everyone else is going to be like, he's never been under 500. Why would you fire a guy like that? And then we'll run it back next year.

But they do have I mean, they play the Titans and the packers next. That could easily be two wins.

Oh.

Tyson beigent doing the lost Neil. That's the worst.

Oh, the surrender.

Neil The Surrender Neil is always a bad look.

Yeah.

I don't care. I know the game is over, but you can't Surrender Neil.

Go out on your sword.

I hate the surrender. Neil.

So, PFG, to your point, this was a 54th straight game. The Steelers offense failed to come close to 400 yards. That goes back to the beginning of the 2020 season.

Yeah, it's been bad. It's been tough offensively for Pittsburgh. And you kept waiting today for, like, a strip sack by TJ, an interception by TJ, a forced fumble by T. You waited for TJ.

They even had that moment when Herbig got the punch, the ball out, and they got a fumble. They couldn't capitalize.

You got to score again.

It was a perfect they were playing the Steelers recipe, and then Kenny got hurt and the Steelers recipe fell apart.

Yeah. When your defense sees a ball, you have to pick the ball up and score for the Steelers to have a chance. And they do it a lot.

At least get to the ten yard line.

Yeah.

Get you within, like, an easy field goal range.

Get you close enough that Naji Harris can get stuffed for three consecutive 1 YD gains and then kick a field goal.

It'd be ideal if you got it to the two yard line so that Najee Harris could have, like, barely a two yard gain on the swing pass and score.

Touchdown.

Yes. Okay. So jaguars for real? Steelers. Who knows? Hopefully Kenny can play on Thursday. I would like to see Kenny play on Thursday.

I would, too.

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They were very bad today in every facet of the game.

I was right on this. I was right on this one. The Rams are they we got fooled by the Seahawks week one, and then they beat two bad teams in the Colts and the Cardinals Colts. I'll say frisky when the Cowboys get to play a bad team like the Rams, it was over. And it was over so fast. It was ten to three with 43 seconds left in the first quarter, and then three minutes later, it was 26 to three. It was a pick six, a block, punt safety and a touchdown. It was that. That was it.

Yeah.

And you had the pick six for Geron Bland. That was his third pick six of the season.

Third.

The record is four four. So he's on pace to have six and a 6th pick sixes on the year, I believe.

Correct.

If I did my math right, the Cowboys have beat the jets, patriots and Rams. So three bad teams.

You know, the Cowboys kill those teams.

They've beaten those three teams at home by a combined 111 to 33.

And the Cowboys credit to them. They stopped doing this like, we want to just only do complementary football. They realize that they have CD Lamb, and he's really fucking good, and Dak played really well, and they threw the ball deep, and that's what the Cowboys should be doing. They saw that the Rams secondary sucks, and they're like, we're going torture you. And it's exactly what they did. CD lamb had 158 yards and two touchdowns. Dak was pretty much perfect. He had one interception, which was kind of a tip ball in the red zone. If you're a Cowboys fan, that's the Cowboys. You need what they did. Offense, defense, special teams. I almost called him Minka Fitzpatrick because he got hurt. The steelers. Michael Parsons was all over the field. Like, that is the recipe. That's the perfect cowboys recipe. Now you got to do it against a good team.

I'm looking forward to that game because we're either going to get really pissed off Cowboys fans, or we're going to get really pissed off, Max afterwards.

Yes.

It's kind of a win win for us. It's content no matter what. Fun stat about the cowboys. Did you know that teams that have beaten the Cowboys are owing eight after beating them? So I guess that'd be the Cardinals, who stink, and the 49 ers who have just kind of hit a wall right now. Okay, so it's bad luck to beat the Cowboys.

Bad luck. Yeah, I know. The 49 ers are owing three after they beat them.

So, Max, you might not want to beat the Cowboys.

Then you'll lose the next game.

Yeah.

Oh, the next game is a buy.

Yeah.

Buy.

Well, it's not just like the next to the buy. You might lose every game for the.

Rest of the this is a sample size of two.

If this stat holds true, you would.

Then lose every other game that you play. This is a sample size of two and really one because the Cardinals are bad.

Well, it's a sample size of two, but also every game that they've played after beating the Cowboys.

Correct.

So, Owen, eight is the record.

Yeah.

The Cardinals and niners will never win a game.

Never win.

Yeah.

And the Eagles won't either if you guys win next week. So be very careful with the Cowboys game.

Bye.

There was a great, great moment before the game. DeMarcus Ware made it into the Cowboys ring of honor. Jerry Jones introduced him as. DeMarcus Lawrence going into the Ring of Honor, which is very relatable from Jerry Jones, because I think everybody said when they got DeMarcus Lawrence, like, that's too many DeMarcus's on this team that played the same position. We can't keep track of all this.

Yeah, that's tough. For the big day. For the big day. I don't know what the Rams do now. They're in very much I think the Rams came into the season, they have Matthew Stafford, they have an older roster, and they're like, hey, maybe we'll catch lightning in a bottle. They win week one. Oh, maybe this will be lightning in a bottle. I think they're going to end up obviously outside the playoffs and not a very good football team. Now they have, like, a big transition that has to happen.

Yeah.

It'd be interesting to see if the Rams just became like, we love picks, right. And they traded away everybody to get more draft picks after not ever having a draft pick.

They might have to because Matthew Stafford hurt his thumb. He hurt twice, I think, but he was good enough that they had a touchdown drive to start the second half. But then he came out of the game once. It became a three score game again. So I don't know what the Rams are a weird. Like, I think they're bad, and I think maybe this is the moment that people are like, oh, maybe they are actually bad.

Yeah, I don't think that they're bad bad. I think they're one of the best.

No, you're still falling for no, they're.

One of the best bad teams I know.

I don't know if they're even that.

I think they might be no, I.

Don'T think they're even that.

I think they're better than the Cardinals.

Well, no, the Cardinals are just terrible.

Yeah.

Terrible.

They're not like the bottom five teams in the NFL, but they're of the next group. They're bad.

I think there might be top of that next five. They might be, like, the 10th worst team in football right now.

I don't know.

I'd take probably everyone in the NFC. Like, I'd take the Falcons and the Saints and the Bucks maybe over them.

Take the Bucks over the Rams. That would be a good game.

Yeah, maybe.

I'd like to see that Baker revenge.

The Broncos are better than the Rams, right? The broncos might be.

They might be rounding into form.

I'll have to do it when the power rankings come out on Tuesday. I have to give some real thought into where I actually put the Rams, but I don't think they're not a good team. And they were getting a little too much credit for that Seahawks win. So now we're finally done with that. You know what? It was six and a half. What?

Gammy.

I'm over the score.

Gotta go.

I'm just happy when Jake's I'm happy for you, Jake. I'm over the scoregami.

Wow.

It feels like it happens too much.

This is the third time the season in eight weeks.

Yeah, that's too many.

Wasn't it last year where it took a long time?

I like six or seven to get one right. Three in eight weeks is too much.

Okay, well, the more that happens, you'll have less to deal with.

I know.

I can't wait for the day when it's gone.

Could the Rams hypothetically trade aaron Donald? Yeah, that'd be weird.

Yeah, that would be weird. I don't think they would, because I think he would just retire. Yeah, he's threatened retirement every week. Every week.

He's like, I might not come back to work now.

Jake so three gammies so far this year?

Yeah.

Do you have a favorite gammy? No, just all of them?

Yeah, sort of gammy. You want to see another one?

In the Super Bowl? Last one we had was 43 to eight. Broncos and seahawk.

Can you walk us through?

I guess it's because I don't really care because you can't win money off it. So it's like, who the fuck cares?

Can you walk us through why you love scorgami so much? Because I love the fact that you love them.

Because it's different.

Yeah, I hate scorgamis. I like that you like them. I hate scoragamis.

That's fair. I just like rooting for things that people don't really care about.

Okay.

To stand out.

Yeah.

I really enjoy it. You guys are all rooting for players and bets. I'm rooting for this.

Yeah, you should be able to bet on a scoragami.

Yeah.

I think maybe it's because there's been too many this year. I liked it when you had the first one. It felt like it hadn't happened in forever. Now it feels like every Sunday you stand in front of the TV, you're like gammy also.

Sometimes it's just fun to see a good old fashioned, like, 20 417 game.

Yeah.

And this.

I recognize the time. I know, but it's nice being like, oh, I've seen that before. I know exactly how they got there.

I also think, what were the other gammies this year?

It was week one.

Because 43 20 doesn't feel like a gammy to me. That's not cool.

43 is hard to get in the NFL.

Okay, but still, 20. Come on. We see that all the time. I need, like, a double weird score.

We have Eagles bucks. That was Monday Night Football, 20 511.

That was cool.

Sorry.

This is the fourth.

Oh, see, dolphins. You were hiding one for me. I'm right. They have them every week and then 25 nine. It's like the fucking you basically are like the NHL outdoor classic.

Yeah.

No, you have them every week. You're like, we'll do this every single week. You're the England game. You just do it every week.

We got one, and then we got back to back days, and then we had my birthday. It was my birthday present.

Yeah. Birthday.

Gamma was big.

Yeah.

Too many gammies.

This is the first one since week three.

Four in eight weeks is too many Gamis.

Okay.

They got to be more special. They've ruined the game by making them.

All right, then I won't.

No, you want to take the picture.

In front of you?

Yeah, of course you are.

Yeah.

And you should. I'm not saying again you liking them is not the problem. I don't like the gamis happen so often.

Okay.

They got to slow down.

But again, we can have a handshake deal and be like, the more they happen now, the less you'll have to deal with them later on.

It's very true.

It's like, might as well get rid of them. What's the lowest?

I'd like gamis to go extinct.

Is it like three to 16161? Yeah, that's what I want.

Six one would be awesome.

That would be my personal score.

Right.

There are certain ones that's a scoregasm for me.

Yeah.

There are certain ones that would look cool. 43 20. That doesn't feel like also today, Travis ETN, what's an octopus.

He scored a touchdown. And then you scored the two point conversion right after.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right. So, yeah, if there's no more gummies this year and there's one in, like, week 17, I'll respect it fair. This is just four out of eight. Like, man, slow down. Slow down.

Gummies.

Yeah.

Like you said, the London games.

Yeah, right. It's like, we can't do it every week. They need to slow down.

Good thing we got Germany next week.

Yeah.

Let's go.

Yeah.

I'm excited for that game. All right. Speaking of one of these teams playing it, dolphins 31, Patriots 17. Hank.

Yeah.

Your thoughts on the football game?

We are a football podcast talking about football.

The Patriots are your favorite team?

They are my favorite team. I am from Massachusetts. They did play against the Dolphins today, and they lost.

Facts only.

Okay. And your recap of the Patriots game?

You are Ron Rivera.

If I do big cat, turn me on to the draft projection machine.

It's the best. We actually updated now that the pairs lost.

Lucky enough to be I hope this doesn't mess up what I'm about to say, but we were lucky enough to be on the sidelines at Wisconsin last night. Very cool experience. Got to see it up close and personal. Got to see Marvin Harrison Jr.

Very fast.

Light it up.

Maserati.

Maserati Marv. I looked on after the game. Patriots have projected fourth pick, and they would take Maserati Marv Jones a weapon. And then I instantly got excited.

So you don't have the fourth pick anymore. What the fuck? So right now, it's Arizona Carolina, which is the Bears. The Bears, Giants, Patriots. So you have the fifth pick now.

That sucks.

And I'm going down to Brock Bowers. Okay. That's pretty good.

Baby Gronk.

Gronk.

Yeah, baby gronk.

The Bears have Drake May and Marvin.

Harrison Jr. That's a pretty good combo.

Drake May can't beat Georgia Tech.

That's a reset on your entire franchise, though, if you get Drake May and Marvin Harrison.

Marvin Harrison Jr. Is so fucking good.

So good.

So good.

So good.

Like, watching him in person, it was insane. He's so much better. He sticks out compared to everyone on.

The field, which is hard to do as a wide receiver, right?

Yeah, right.

Compared to some other positions. As for this game, Mac Jones didn't play terrible. Had one really bad throw, the interception, really bad.

Play.

Calling was left a lot to be desired. The Dolphins offense is prolific. I will give the Dolphins credit. They are just constantly in motion. It seems very tough stuff. I thought the past defense did a good job. Like, they were confusing them. They were getting stops, a lot of third downs. But the Dolphins just have so much motion, so much speed. They're hard to stop. I think the Dolphins are the Super Bowl favorites.

Whoa, whoa.

I said that a couple of weeks ago.

They have to beat a real team, though. They did.

Patriots.

Yeah. This Chiefs game will be the test because all right, so last week we talked about the Dolphins.

At this point, you could do the this team, be this team. This team, be this.

Okay, but right.

Let's do it just real quick here for the Patriots.

So the patriots lost to the Broncos.

What place are the Dolphins hung 70 on it.

What place are the Patriots in in the AFC?

Dead last? I've sold that. That I'm guessing you're going to read.

But no. But, Hank, it's depressing. Real quick again. The dolphins are not frauds. They are on fraud watch. The teams they have beaten are the Chargers, the Patriots, twice, the Broncos, the Giants, and the Panthers. They have to win a game. They have to win a game against. This Chiefs game will be a huge test for them. I will say in favor of the Dolphins, jalen Ramsey coming back. He was the one who had the big pick on Mac Jones. That is a huge, huge thing for their defense. That should give them a little toughness and get them out of that fraud.

Watch, because you think that teams will have to throw the ball well to beat the Dolphins.

Right.

If you have a cornerback that's out there, that's like taking away a quarter or half the field, like Jalen is that good, where when he's playing at his best, you have to account for him at every single moment, every single snap. So I do think that it does make the Dolphins less potentially fraudulent than they are.

And the best way to get out of the fraud watch is to play good defense, because that's usually the sign of a fraud watch team, is your offense is really good, but your defense is not sustainable.

You can just say, oh, it's a track meet, right? They're doing a track meet up.

It's like, oh, when they play against a good defense and slows the game down, it's going to look different.

Also when your owner is doing the waddle and then making out with his hot young girl.

Very generous use of makeout.

Yeah, it was not a makeout.

And I think it was his old wife.

Oh, really? Yeah, whatever. She looks hot and young to me.

It was a very much an old person. We've been married for a really long time. Let's have our lips touch for the least amount of time.

It was just fun seeing an owner kissing.

Yeah, it was.

Dolphins have the fifth best to win the Super Bowl. That was Mike Tyson. Do you want to hear the sad stat? I'm surprised you don't have this.

Well, no, go ahead. You've never beaten Tua. Albert Brear.

Yeah.

Albert Breer.

You've never beaten Tua.

Never beaten Tua.

Six and o two.

And Mike McDaniels was iced out in the sideline. I got to find out. Can we find out how much that watch was?

Yeah.

Wait, was that the sad stat that you never beat Tua?

No.

His sad stat is that 15 of the 16 AFC teams will be within three games of each other in the standings. The one outlier at the bottom. The New England Patriots.

Wow.

So the Six wins over two is the most by any quarterback over Belichick in 29 years as a head coach.

Wow.

Their nugget kind of owns Belichick.

Hank, he owns them because you were feeling like this game was I mean, the first half, the Patriots were playing them tough.

They played decent.

I don't know.

It is what it is. It is what it is.

They fucking suck. They're not going to make the playoffs. I'm not going to get excited about the team anymore. I'm going to root for at this point, the smart, analytical decision is to get a really good draft pick winning game. I'll teach you accomplishes nothing.

I'll teach you how to do that. I taught you about tankathon. Every single week is the same thing. You got to be like, it'd probably be better if we lost. When the game kicks off, your instincts will take over and you'll be like, I want to win this game. And then when your bad team starts playing bad because they are bad, you're like, oh, this is actually good. Literally what I just did. Sunday Night Football. Sat down, was like, Tyson, bajant, let's go. First pass, Darnell Mooney.

Yes.

This is going to be awesome. We're going to shock the world. We're going to win outright. And then it all went down from there. And I was like, you know what? That's bad. It's actually not a bad way to root for a team because if you do win, you're like, happy. And if you lose, you're also happy.

Yeah.

And the NBA season started. The Celtics are actually oh, you can't do that.

Absolutely. Football. We're talking.

Well, I'll give Hank this. The Celtics beat the heat this weekend.

Oh, fucking right.

That's huge. Game two.

Yep.

Yeah, it is. What it they they played okay. Not good enough to win. And the Dolphins look really good.

Tyree Kill and Jalen Waller had 233 yards combined. Two touchdowns.

They just do so much motion. It feels like cheating.

They're so fast and so good.

Every play is I also feel like.

Tyree Kill doesn't get enough credit for his ball catching ability in traffic because he's so fast. That catch he made was it maybe in the fourth quarter when he was jumping up and there was, like, two defenders on him? And it was a pretty incredible catch to get the first down because he's so good at the fast stuff. We don't give him enough credit for just being incredible. Even when he has to make the tough catches.

He's got great hands.

Yeah.

He's got great hands, good instincts. He's just a great football player. And when him and Wilder are cooking together, you can't really I don't think that there's a defense that exists that's able to guard those guys. Your best hope is to weather or get to the quarterback.

Yeah.

And if you can't do that, if you can't put pressure on Tua, then.

You'Re kind of fucked. And Tua was looking cool. Backwards hat. I fucking love Tua.

Besides the first quarter interception yeah.

The Dolphins are twelve and five in the throwbacks, too. Great uniforms.

Love those. Jerseys are clean.

Love the throwback uniform.

I can't wait for next week. Like, if they beat the Chiefs, then everything to me is different. Where I'm like, yes, 100%. The Dolphins are a Super Bowl contending team right now. I have them as a very good playoff team. But you'll get into a game where defense will step up and it will look different.

So we do believe in time zones, and we believe that the coach that defeats time zones the best has a big upper hand in the European games. McDaniel is taking the guys to Germany tomorrow.

Oh.

So they're going to win. The Chiefs are going out there. They're only getting one full practice in on Friday.

Oh, no. Dolphins first half.

Mahomes might not be allowed to go because he's got Big C, as Hank mentioned earlier. I just made that up, that he wouldn't be allowed to go.

Chiefs losing to the Broncos, I think, is bad for the Dolphins.

Yeah, of course.

But fins up.

Okay.

So, Hank, season's over.

Yep. Okay.

Kind of nice, right?

Yeah.

We beat the Bills. I didn't even watch it.

Little freeing.

Yeah.

You've only seen one Patriots win and it was against the jets. You would like to beat the though, again.

Yeah.

Because you have to keep that going.

Yeah.

Especially if the jets keep winning. Close.

Yeah. They're fighting spoiler.

That would be your one main spoiler. That you would want. Right.

And the Bills, who would you rather.

Spoil at this point in the season?

Well, the Bills, I believe we play at the end of the season.

Jets is last week of the season.

Oh, yeah.

So probably jets, especially if Rogers is playing.

Bills is Week 17, jets is Week 18. And next week you wouldn't want to win that game. Hank no was on.

Yeah.

No. Patriots, Commanders, the answer is no.

Well, okay.

Preview of next week's game. Would you still rather have Mac Jones than Sam Howe?

Sam Howe looked unbelievable. I mean, it's all coaching. I feel like they're probably similar caliber quarterbacks, but Sam Howell, the first half against the Eagles was throwing.

Is he's saying that Ron Rivera is a better coach than Bill Belichick?

It was the logic here. Wait, what? It's all coaching. But Ron Rivera is a bad coach. Bill Belichick's a good coach.

Ron Rivera has gotten teams to Super Bowls.

Cam Newton.

Yeah.

Cam Newton to a Super Bowl.

It's all coaching.

It's not all coaching. I'm saying, like, they're probably no, no. You guys are just trying to play.

No, I'm literally asking for a clarification that feels like that was a Freudian slip where you're, like, belichick sucks at coaching right now.

No, it.

Was exactly what that was.

You didn't realize until after you said, but you just admitted that Bill Belichick is not a good head coach right now.

I did not. I never said.

I would.

I guess take maybe maybe just mix it up. Take Sam Howell, see what happens.

Put him with a good coach. Mac Jones?

No, but Howell with a good oh, like Sam Howe's bad.

But you just said he was the best quarterback.

I mean, Sam Howe is good, but he has bad coaching.

So if he's what? You meant Mac Jones is good when he has good coaching.

No, Mac Jones is bad, but he has good coaching.

But it's all coaching.

But you're also saying that right now. That's what I'm saying.

Good coaching. Imagine how good he's going to be.

Do you think that Sam Howell is great? Like, the best quarterback in the NFL with the worst coach?

I never said he's the worst coach.

If it's all coaching, if Belichick's a good coach, you should make the quarterback good.

Yeah, he's making him really good compared to his skill level.

Got it.

Oh, Mac Jones.

Mac Jones actually worse than we're seeing. Got it.

Yeah.

Okay, that makes sense. You didn't make a mistake.

No.

Oh, man. All right, next up, titans. Falcons. Titans 28, Falcons 23. Our guy will levis. Four touchdowns, was awesome. Pressured all day. Falcons defense is good. I am happy for Will Levis. He had that moment after we went and found his family. The guy got shit on at the draft. He got shit on by Titans fans before he was able to start a game. I'm very, very happy for Will levis because he went out and he fucking bald his ass off.

So he has twice as many touchdowns this season as Ryan Tannehill does.

Wow.

Isn't that crazy?

And also, he remembered that DeAndre Hopkins is good.

He remembered DeAndre Hopkins is on our was it's weird? Especially if you're, like, a Houston Texans fan, seeing DeAndre Hopkins playing for another team wearing Houston Oilers uniforms, which that's got to be strange. They're great uniforms. Okay, I'm just strictly talking about the uniforms here. Maybe my favorite uniform in the NFL. One of them. Tennessee titans should not be allowed.

It's bullshit. It's bullshit.

They gave up the rights to that correct. When the team moved and they decided to rebrand. They're like, you know what? Oilers doesn't make sense in Tennessee. We're going to be the Titans for some reason.

Right.

I don't know why. And then they just get to go back and use another city's.

It's didn't the Carolina Hurricanes wear the whalers uniforms once. It's bullshit. Hartford is mad about you can't do that. You took the team from a city. You are the Titans now. The Texans should get to wear the Oilers throwbacks. That's how it should work.

Yeah.

The franchise, I understand, can move around. It sucks, but it can. But the colors stay.

Yeah.

It's as simple as that.

And it's going to be very weird.

And they're sick colors.

When the Oilers play against the Texans, they are going to wear the throwbacks.

For that's fucked up, but yeah. Will. Levis. Awesome moment. Awesome first game. He is the second player since 1970 with four touchdowns in his first game. Who's the other player? This is not good for the wait, wait.

I think I know. Is it Matt Flynn?

No, it's Marcus Mariota.

Oh, okay.

So the Titans have this in their bag. Also, you want a little trivia? This one is a little bit tougher. DeAndre Hopkins tied the record for most touchdowns. First touchdowns caught by a quarterback. So he's caught the first touchdown from four different quarterbacks. Can you name them?

Kyler Murray?

No?

Oh, well, I'm off to a bad start.

Will Levis is one.

Will Levis, Houston Texans quarterback. I'm going to go with Yates of Hell.

TJ. Yates?

No.

Deshaun Watson.

Deshaun Watson is one of matt Schaub was DeAndre Hopkins first touchdown.

But not Davis Mills.

No, it was Case Keenum, tom Savage, Deshaun Watson and Will Levis.

Wow.

I went down a rabbit hole, and I was trying to figure out who it was. I saw the stat, but they didn't say who it was, and then I was like so I looked up all the Texans quarterbacks and went back and tried to figure it out. And guess who? Ryan Mallet. Rip. Who? His first touchdown pass was to Andre Johnson. JJ. Watt.

Oh.

Crazy.

Pretty cool. That is wild. That's just some crazy wild trivia right there.

Wild ball.

So, four times he's caught the first touchdown pass from a quarterback.

That's cool. And it was great to see Will Levis not only throwing those touchdowns, but they were like sick bombs, too. They weren't gimme touchdowns. He was balling out today. It was great. They went with a two headed monster of Willis and Will Levis for, like, one series think, and Willis got booed.

And Will Levis, to his credit afterwards, is like, that's not right, which I liked. He's a leader. But yeah, it was great seeing Will Levis in that offense and being like, oh, they can actually stretch the Is. They have vertical threats.

It is weird seeing the Titans do that to somebody. And if you're a Tennessee fan, this is probably like a good you officially switched over today from hating Will Levis, from being a Kentucky quarterback to loving him now that he's your Tennessee quarterback.

And the Titans are in a weird, weird spot. They just traded Kevin Byrd there's. Talk about Derrick Henry. They're in this weird transition. There's nothing better if you're in a transitional period with a franchise to have a guy you can get excited about. Will Levis is that guy.

I agree.

Yeah.

Good point, big cat.

Yeah. Yeah.

Will Levis played good enough to the point where you're like, I have somebody root for for the rest of the year. Apparently they told Derrick Henry that they're not trading him, though. Oh, now, Max heard something different on Twitter.com or X.com.

Well, Max heard something different in his brain.

Yeah.

Where he's like Derek Henry Eagle.

But they apparently told him, you're going to stick around.

Okay, that's good. As for the Falcons, we finally got the switch. So Arthur Smith switched to Taylor Heinekenke. Now, he said that it's not the actual switch that Desmond Ritter is going to be the quarterback next week. They're also Ritter was checked out for a concussion, passed a concussion test, which makes me feel like maybe Arthur Smith was just waiting for a moment where it's like, he's out for a play, and it's like, oh, that's convenient.

It's either Heinecke it's either that or he was playing so poorly that Arthur Smith was like, this guy's got to have a concussion.

Let's check out.

Which is not good if you don't have a concussion. For a coach to think that right.

To pass a concussion test when everyone's like, dude, you must be concussed.

Yeah.

And he's like, no, there's something there. You learned how to fudge that test.

And Taylor through you. Taylor, heineken almost won them the game. If Van Jefferson didn't drop that ball on fourth and one in the red zone, the Falcons could have easily won this game.

Yeah, it was a great pass. It was an easy pass that should have been caught. But Heinecke led them to I think he got all their points.

Oh, no.

They got a field goal in the first quarter, but then Heinecke came in and played pretty well. Taylor Heinecke is fun. He's a good quarterback.

Give us Taylor Heineckey.

Give us Taylor Heineckey. We got more Bijean today. We got eleven carries for Bijan. He still should get like Algeria got 831 yards, averaged 3.9 a carry. Bijan got eleven, averaged 5.6 yards of carry because he's about twice as good.

I love it, though.

And a touchdown.

I love it.

And Arthur continues to just kick sand in all the nerds face.

Keep doing it, Arthur. Keep trolling, everyone. I can't get enough of it. This felt like mean. We'll talk about the NFC South when we get to the Saints in a second, but it felt like a game that the Falcons might look back and be like, damn, we should have won that game. Especially you didn't know Will Levis was going to play as good as he did. But against a rookie quarterback, first start and you had the chance to win the game at the end, this could be one of those games that they're like, well, that was why we didn't make the playoffs.

Yeah.

And it's always nice for a rookie quarterback to have Derek Henry to hand the ball to. He's just going to carry it 22 times. That's 22 times that I won't have to drop back.

Yeah.

Let's just let him cook for a second.

I'm happy for Will Levis. 17% accuracy. He improved. That's pretty good. He told everyone. That's pretty good when he was joking, but he told everyone.

And he's single.

And he's single.

What a great time to have a great game.

Probably at the Barstool bar right now. And he deserves it. He deserves a night off. Okay, can we just say Will Levis.

Drinks for free at the Barstool Bar? Yeah, if they win. Whenever they win.

Whenever they win.

Yep.

Whenever he throws a touchdown pass.

Okay.

One touchdown pass. Drinks for free. That feels right. And Titans, stop doing that uniform. We should protest.

Yeah, but they're sick uniform.

I know, but the Texans should wear them.

But at what cost, hank, you have to stand for something or you fall for anything.

Texans should wear them.

Thomas Jefferson said that.

Hank, the Texans should wear them. It's Houston's team.

But would you rather not see them at all or see them?

I'd rather watch Earl Campbell highlights where he's wearing the uniform.

I guess I'd probably if you put it that way, Hank. I'd probably rather see him because isn't that what happened, Max, with the Kelly Greens? Like someone owned them. Like the previous owner owned the color palette or something?

I think it was just the helmets.

Because they couldn't do the shell.

This was the first year that they could do the Kelly Green helmets, and it looked bad with the other helmets.

Oh, that makes sense. Actually. That makes sense.

Yeah.

They are sick. All right, fine, Hank. I'll take them however I get them.

You know what? Whoever wins between Tennessee and Houston, they get the uniform.

That's what it really should be.

How about that?

That would be a great that should be Monday night game. Everything at stake.

And both teams wear the Oilers outfits for that. Just one wears blue, one wears white.

No, they both wear the Oilers uniforms. But it says, like one says Titans. One says Texans. Yeah, that's the thing is I might even take it if the Titan it's just the fact that it says it. I think all their gear said, let's see.

I'm looking at it right now. I don't know if it said Oilers on there.

I thought I saw some guys on the sidelines wearing stuff that said Oilers. I don't like that. That bothers me. Yeah, and maybe we're just being pussies about it. I don't know.

No, I mean, I think that Houston has a fair gripe when it comes to that. The Oilers played in Houston.

That's a fact. That is a fact.

The Oilers are not they're not a ten C team.

That is a fact.

Yeah.

No, it says Oilers on his helmet.

Oh, on the helmet.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

On the front of it.

Yeah. So it said it everywhere.

Damn.

Okay. All right. Let's take a break, and then we got some more games, and then we'll get to the afternoon games.

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Okay. Saints 38, colts 27. The Saints offense is back. Look at that.

It was huge. This is massive. Massive.

For the Saints, it was everything. It was Alvin Camara looking awesome. 110 yards total, two touchdowns. It was Taysom Hill doing Taysom Hill, where he had, like, a 40 yard pass, a 14 yard catch, and then 60 plus yards running with a couple of touchdowns. And then the real surprise was my guy, Rashid Shahid, catching some bombs from Derek Carr.

He had what, like 155 yards? Three catches.

Three catches and a touchdown.

Yeah, three catches for 155 yards is insane. I think it's his number that makes him look not as fast.

It's his name, too. His name is so awesome. Well, I just want to say it.

His name is great, but his number you see that and you think, is this like a mid speed running back? No, no. He is fucking fast as hell.

And I'll say this very clear. If the Saints want to play like this, I'm in. I'm in like that's. The thing is, the Saints, it's nothing personal. The Saints have just played such a mind numbingly, annoying style of football where it's pass, pass to the line of scrimmage if they want to air it out, because they have some really good players. I'm all the way in.

Yeah.

And this was the formula for the Saints that are 17 and one when Taysom Hill has at least seven carries in a game. Yeah, that's a great stat. I love it. Feed Taysom. Give him the rock. Let him do everything with it. Let Taysom Hill just, like, just jump around whatever position groups he feels like being in on whatever particular drive. They had 500 yards of offense today. They were fun. The saints were fun again.

They were fun again.

Good seeing the Saints be fun again.

Should we put a future on the Saints to win the NFC South?

You could say that about almost any team in that division.

Well, they play the Bears and the Vikings the next two weeks.

Yeah.

The Vikings without Kirk cousins.

What does the coin have them at? Because the coin is now eight and okay, so let me consult the coin here's.

Their non division games left. I'm going to read them to you. I think we might have to take the Saints to win the division. Their non division games left are bears, Vikings, Falcons. Hank Shane's trying to get your attention. Bears, Vikings, lions, Giants, rams. That's four and one. In theory, yeah, in theory, that's four and one. The Lions would be the only one that I could see them not winning.

Okay.

So the coin has them going eleven and six. So that sounds like it would win that division.

Let's take a look. Let's take a look. Are we just being complete knee jerk, reaction losers? Because the Saints looked good on offense once and we're like, Holy shit, watch out for the Saints? Is that what's happening right now?

It might be.

There's a plus 125 to win the division. Okay. We can think about it. We can think about it.

We can think about it.

As for the Colts, I don't know. Their friskiness is starting to wane a little bit.

They're fun to watch.

They are.

They score 20 points again and they.

Always play in entertaining games. Minshew was doing his thing back there. It looked like he got really injured in the first half.

And I don't know what happened to Jonathan Taylor. They said he wasn't injured, but he had eleven carries for 95 yards in the first half, and then he got one carry in the second half.

They fall behind.

So that's either well, but it was still kind of a game for a while there. It was 21 20 for a while in the third quarter. He must be injured. Otherwise it makes no sense to have a guy doing that and then be like, oh, yeah, we're just never going to give him the ball.

So it would sound crazy to say that they would trade Jonathan Taylor after signing him.

Yeah, that is a little crazy, but.

That would be the behavior of a team that's going to trade Jonathan Taylor.

OOH, I like where your head's at.

It would be right?

Yeah.

I like that theory.

You're just like, you know what? We're going to give you Moss.

Yeah. Okay.

I hope it's not true, because if you're a Colts fan, you want to have somebody to root for. Jonathan Taylor is the guy that you want to root for now that your quarterback's injured for the rest of the.

Year, and you want to stay in that frisky category yeah. Where it's fun to watch the games. You don't know what's going to happen, but I feel like it might be slipping.

Camara also showed a little burst today.

Yeah. You might have shown a little wiggle. That touchdown run where it looked like he was absolutely going to get tackled for a loss and he parted the Red Sea and scored a touchdown. Yeah, I agree. He might have been a pass.

He ran with some enthusiasm today.

Yeah.

Old school.

Camaro, I know he took him a couple of games, but his legs are backing I'm I think I'm selling myself on the Saints. This might be bad.

This is going to lead you to rooting for Derek Carr in very clutch moments. I'm just warning you. Theoretically, it sounds like a great plan, but are you going to want to root for Derek Carr?

I think it's also my plans are based on if you play the Bears next, it's a guaranteed win. So get the value.

Now.

It's hard to get a win in the NFL and have one in the bag.

Right. The price isn't worked in yet, but they do play the Bears next. So maybe that's not a bad strategy. Okay, so that was a fun game. Very fun game. Let's talk about the Big Ten West performance of the day. The jets and the Giants. Jets 13, Giants ten. In overtime. This game had 24 punts, 23 points. This game had 15 punts in the first half alone, which was the most since 1991 when they started collecting data. This game had, in the first half, both teams combined going for 18 from third down. And then this game had the Stat line of tommy DeVito, two for seven.

-1, YD, tommy DeVito, tommy DeVito.

I lost so much money betting on Tommy DeVito when he was at Syracuse.

The Giants had negative nine net passing yards. That's the fewest since 2000. I think they had negative eight net passing yards before the start of overtime. And then Tommy DeVito threw for negative one passing yard. Correct in overtime. They were doing whatever they could to not allow him to throw the ball anywhere near where a cornerback might be at any point. And it was a very interesting game plan. Now, obviously, Taylor got sent to the hospital. He took maybe an internal injury that they're going to scope out. But Tommy DeVito, people forget, he wears the chain with his initials on it. It just says TD. He is a fantasy fuck boy. And they did not trust him to do anything. And there was a moment where Dable and Salah were both kind of looking at each other from opposite sidelines, both understanding the mess that they were both in at the time. But the difference is Dable was like, pissed off about not being able to.

Do and he was wet. He was so wet.

He was super wet.

He got so wet.

Salah wasn't wet. He was shiny. He was like, glistening. And he was, like, smiling. Like, this is such a fucked up game. I love it because he's learned to embrace the chaos that goes along with not having any offense. So he's like, if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. So I'm just going to put it all like, we're going to see what we can do with Zach Wilson.

And Salah was like, oh, they have more fucked up quarterbacks situation than we do right now. Yeah, he was incredible.

He was loving.

And then you just had like a wet blueberry on the other side in Dable just like, going up and down the sideline. I don't know what he was. It was some team issued gear, but it was one of those raincoats that it wicked all the water, but it also held all the water on it. So he just like if he shook himself like a dog, he would make someone instantly drenched.

He looked like a zit, kind of because he was trying to turn, like, a little pink at the he looked.

Like the chick from.

Violet Boregard.

Yeah.

She gets rolled out by the was just he was very angry. I don't know why the Giants have a quarterback on their roster who you cannot throw the ball that feels I know. Obviously, third quarterback. You don't expect your third quarterback to play. It's not going to be a great situation if he comes in, but they literally didn't want like they were so scared of Tommy DeVito throwing the football. He threw everything within 2ft of his face. And I don't know who we can protest to, but Sequan Barkley deserves, like, FedEx Ground Player of the Week because he had 128 yards in an offense that literally couldn't throw the football. That was the most impressive performance in a loss that anyone's ever had, I.

Guess you could say. Why didn't Dable give him the ball on that fourth and one when they kicked the field goal? That missed. Graham Ganot missed in the rain at the end towards the end of regulation.

Which was the perfect this game fucking rocked. It was so stupid that it became fun. It was the perfect Zach Wilson entire story arc where fourth and ten the game's about to be over. It's like a minute and a half left. You have two timeouts fourth and ten from your own 30. You have to just throw the ball. You have to throw the ball and take a chance. He takes a ten yard sack that puts the Giants directly in field goal range. The Giants can't throw the ball, so they run it three times. Then they miss a field goal. And then Zach Wilson takes him down the field in two plays for the tying field goal to take him to overtime. It was everything. Zach Wilson like, how do you take that sack? And then, how the fuck did Zach Wilson get him all the way down the field?

And they spiked it with 1 second left on the clock.

Yeah.

So we have a narc out there in the media. Our friend Boomer boomer. Siason.

Uh oh.

He played for the jets, right? He's a jets quarterback.

He was, yeah.

He tweeted out that the center actually spots the ball before the spike. Not the official the spike play shouldn't have happened. Game should have been over. And then he tagged the NFL and also NFL officiating in the tweet to knock him out. Because if you watch the replay, at the very end of the game, zach Wilson throws the ball across the middle field. It's caught. They have a first down. They have to get up there and spike it to attempt a field goal. The center runs up to the ball, and the center puts the ball down. The referee sprints in and just ever so slightly taps the ball and runs away. Apparently, the referee has to pick the ball up and put it down to spot the ball, but he just let the center do it. And if the referee had gone over there, picked the ball up, and spotted it correctly, that's what the Cowboys messed up in that playoff game where they ran that weird play with, like, 13 seconds left. You remember that against the Niners, right?

Yeah.

So that's what they fucked up, because you have to wait for the official to do it. Apparently, the center just took matters into his own hands and said, I'm going to spot the ball. I dare you to stop me. Do something about it. And they got it off, spiked it with 1 second left.

So I'm actually going to take the opposite side because our guy, Jeff Schwartz, who played offensive line in the NFL, he wasn't one of those pretty boys like Boomer who got to play quarterback. He said the center did an awesome job checking the spot with the line judge before putting the ball down. So he basically did the judge's job for Is this cool? Yeah, he was like, Is this cool? Then the, UMP touched the ball to spot it, and they clocked it.

I just disagree with Boomer turning his back on the jets like this.

Yeah.

But if Jeff Schwartz is right, that was a heads up play by the center.

Yeah, we can give the center credit.

Yeah.

I mean, the bottom line is they.

Got away with it, so it worked.

So good job.

And no one wants to see a game end where you can't spike it.

No, I hate that. I hate that when the ref just stands over the ball and the precious seconds are ticking away, and you're just like, Snap it, snap it. And you can't. Because this guy's here making the game all about himself.

It's the most unfulfilled I mean, it happened to me when I was at the Rose Bowl and Russell Wilson. That literally happened where they didn't get the spike off it's. The most unfulfilling way for a game to end it is to be like, no spike off. Memes memes walking with his chest puffed out.

He feels sorry for us.

Big cat he is.

Feels sorry.

He is really feeling. I walked into this office, into this studio, sometime around the second games. Memes was sitting in my seat, feet up on the phone, like, big boss man taking phone calls. He's feeling himself.

I was in PFT seat. I was on the phone. Feet were not up. But me and my dad were talking.

About the jets game.

I liked my version better, so let's go with my version. You were made up half of it.

You were in my seat. Were you farting in my seat?

He had his feet up.

Max says, yes, you were farting and he was PFD.

This is what he looked like. He was like, yeah. These other fucking franchises, they stink.

They don't know what it's the jets were the best.

No, my dad called me. He was like, that game fucking sucked.

I was like, yeah.

It was a great 24 seconds, though, at the end.

Yeah.

So some quick punting stats. Thomas Morstead had ten punts, ten punts for 486 yards.

Nice.

Three inside the 20. Jamie Gillen for the Giants had eleven punts for 470 yards and he put five down inside the 20. This is a great punting game.

Great punting game.

Thomas Morsette had three inside the five.

Yeah.

15Th player to do it since 1970.

Wow.

Huge punting game for Morsett. So, Memes, you are feeling yourself a little bit, because you got to see Aaron Rogers throwing a pass, wearing a hoodie before the game, and you're thinking to yourself, this guy's coming back. Playoffs, we get Aaron Rogers back and we're going to win the Super Bowl.

Yes, but also 24 seconds away from just this being the worst podcast of all time.

Was that not the most Zach Wilson thing, to have that? Because that fourth and ten was brutal. That was crazy, because I had some jets fans being like, he has no time. He actually had time on that fourth and ten. There's no reason to just not throw it. Like, what's the worst that happens? The interception, it's fourth and ten.

Yeah.

Nobody was open. But you still got to launch, you.

Still got to throw it.

It didn't make any sense.

Yeah. And then to do that, to turn around and go down the field. Man zach Wilson, where are you at?

Where am I at with Zach Wilson?

Yeah.

I'm all in on him. He kind of reminds me of James Winston. You never know what you're going to get with him.

That's disrespectful to James.

Yeah, that is.

Do you think he would have played better today if he did an apple pick on the bye week?

No, I think he would have played better if it didn't rain. I said a couple weeks ago, can't play in the rain.

Yeah, that's true. You did say that.

You called that he can't play in the rain. This was very close to being like the Patriots lost.

You lose to the Patriots society if.

There was no such thing as rain. And it's just a complete utopia with Zach Wilson, Super Bowl champion.

Yeah.

It's rained in New York every single weekend for, like, since we moved.

That's why we haven't done the bike.

Memes you are excited, though, because it does look aaron Rodgers throwing a pass. Like he's throwing it right now is actually insane. It's nuts.

You also memes like, you should be very excited because the jets have, like, a weird I don't want to say Team of destiny, but there's something weird going on. Like, this is three wins in a.

Row and they're winning weird, ugly games in strange ways.

Right.

Means that they're probably doing a lot of little stuff really, really well.

And I'm starting to kind of believe in the jets, which if non jets fans, NFL fans, are starting to believe in the jets, that means that something's going well, because I would have no reason to believe in the jets after.

They beat the Bills, after Aaron Rodgers tours Achilles, you knew something could happen.

It was the Chiefs game, though. That was the turning point. The Chiefs game. I feel like that was a loss that counts as a win because you came out of it being like, oh, jets might be okay.

Yeah, we should have won that game.

Right. And then you've won three in a row. And we get the jets on standalone primetime two weeks in a row.

Memes is acting like a different person on the show right now.

Oh, yeah.

No, he was.

I don't know what he's doing. Like, he's going around saying that if they were in the NFC, they'd be the one seed in the NFC. He's like, yeah, they're pretty good. All day he's been talking about how the jets are the best team in.

The NFL after winning, when he says.

About the who's the one seed in the NFC?

Right.

That would be the Eagles because they.

What happened when the jets played the Eagles.

How many losses did the jets have? How many losses the Eagles have?

I'm just saying, see, PFD sees my side. I see memes.

So, Memes, you're not telling us the truth right now.

You're playing coy best team in the say right now.

Technically, we beat the it no, not technically. Like, literally, you did beat the yeah.

They don't have to talk about what happened to the Cowboys.

Yeah, that's a good point. Wait, so you're saying that the Eagles aren't the best team in the NFC?

No, I'm just saying that Meme just picks and chooses what is good for him.

I love sound. Right.

You guys are each other's biggest haters, except when it comes to Hank. And then you'll team up on Hank.

Yeah, it's true.

That is actually not only do we get the jets in prime time on Monday Night Football against the Chargers, then we get them Sunday Night Football against the Raiders and then skip a week. And is that Thanksgiving? Yeah, they play the dolphins.

Yeah.

Black Friday.

Oh, that's the lot of and that's.

Also a big game for me because I said the jets could beat the Dolphins last week.

Well, you said right now.

Right now. That's true. Good point, Memes. Thank you. Right now is memes.

I'm going to bring you back down to earth for just a second. Your offensive line sucks.

We lost two more guys today.

Yeah, your offensive line is not good.

Dexter.

That might be good, though. When you lose bad players, it might not be the worst.

Yeah, no, that's actually, you know what you have that's a weakness of their team. They just lost the bad guys.

It couldn't get worse.

So Dexter Lawrence had 14 pressures today. 14. Your defensive Tibeto.

Although Tibeto, that one penalty that might have been the deciding factor because they got the clock stopped on that first chunk play after they got the ball back.

To quote your coach, memes, they don't ask how, they ask how many.

Yeah, this final score should have been seven, six.

For the guys.

So the defense on the Giants touchdown just gave up, like, two personal foul penalties.

You don't give those up, you commit those.

I'm also going to jump in real quick and remind you that you did play against Rod Taylor was still in the game. That I don't know if they probably would have had negative nine net passing.

Like, you know, when they do the hypothetical, like, oh, how many rushing yards could you get behind the best offensive line in football? I think I could have the same stat line as Tommy DeVito today.

Negative 1 for seven.

Yeah.

I just do pop passes. Two pop passes.

They should have got him going.

Yeah.

With like, a little direct pop pass or shovel pass.

Right. Cook a little bit like you don't and then just throw it at someone's feet the minute you get the ball.

Or just arm punt, throw it as far as you can for an interception.

Yeah.

No, he didn't even throw an interception, did he?

I don't think they trusted to throw an interception.

Shout out fellow Syracuse grad Andrew Catalon. One of the ugliest, best games you'll ever see on the call. We all LOL'd in the cave.

Wait.

Who Andrew Catalon? He was on the call. He said, one of the best ugliest, best games you'll ever see.

Got it.

Yeah, it was a very fun game to watch.

It was a big Ten West game. It was Iowa, wisconsin.

You got a big road.

Rascal, Purdue. Yeah, it was a great game. Okay, next up, panthers. Texans. Panthers 15, texans 13. Bryce Young's, better than CJ. Stroud.

That's what the stats say today.

That's it.

Fun fact, we've figured it out.

So that was the first time that the top three picks had played in a game together at once. Kind of wild.

Yeah.

So Bryce has beat the, you know, Straud boy.

We're going to regroup.

We're going to retreat. We're going to talk about what went wrong. We're not going to turn on each other, and we're going to be fine. I think the Texans will be okay, but the Panthers needed this. They need this particular game. One, coming off a bye week. Two, having something for your fan base to look at and say, okay, Bryce Young might be the guy.

He might be the guy. And Frank Wright. Good job being smart enough to not call the plays anymore.

Yes.

That was good by you. I also walk away from this game being like, we should celebrate the Owen 16 teams more because this is a reminder how hard it is to lose every game. It is any given Sunday. And the Panthers, I mean, it was not a pretty game, but they won a game.

They did.

The field goals at the end were so funny, too, when Eddie Pinero was out there and the Texans employed the strategy of just trying to time the snap every single time.

Yeah.

And this one guy was like five yards off sides twice in a row.

It was like when you played in Madden, you're like, can I stand in front of the kicker when they snap the ball?

You can just make somebody raise quit. That's what he's trying to do. Make the Panthers rage quit at the end of the game by committing the same foul over and over and over again. Be like, I can do this all day.

It's a smart one. What are they going to do? They're just going to give you another fight. He's going to make it anyway. They already were well within field goal range, but shout out to Panthers. They won a football game. I don't want them to win any more games. But they won a football game. That's good for them. Must feel good. Texans are we worried? They're just kind of what they are.

The Texans will be okay.

They're a future team.

They'll be okay. The Texans are you're still good. You're still way better than people thought you would be this year.

But there was a time when it was like, OOH, Texans could be in the playoffs.

I thought playoffs.

Yeah.

Now it's like, hey, let's just enjoy the fact that we have a franchise quarterback.

Yeah.

His name's not Deshaun Watson.

I thought playoffs, question mark last week. Now I'm like, probably not playoffs.

Probably not playoffs. But, I mean, they're still three and four, but yeah, probably not playoffs.

So you're for the Panthers, your Super Bowl this year will be playing the Tennessee Titans for the rights to the Oilers uniforms.

Right. Also very funny. When Eddie Pinero hit the kick and then a little kid jumped on his lineman's back and they were running up the field, that was just a very he forgot he was a professional athlete for a second.

Yeah, I love those.

He was a little boy. I love it. Yeah, he was a little boy. Okay, next up broncos 24, Chiefs nine. The 16 game losing streak is over. The Broncos have finally beaten the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs. Good for them.

Yeah.

This is a big win for the Broncos and it's also the snapping of maybe a more impressive streak that they had, which is that they were owing ten in games in which they held the lead at halftime, which is. Crazy. So now they're one and ten in their last eleven games of that. But this was like the Broncos were the better team today.

I don't know.

It never really felt like the Chiefs were going to make that comeback. You kept waiting for it to happen. Mikhail Hardman had that one muff punt, and then it was pretty much over after that. But I felt like the Broncos were in charge of the game.

Okay, so, yeah, maybe the Broncos are better team. I guess what my point is, if I were a cheats fan, I wouldn't be worried about this game at all. They had five turnovers. If you have five turnovers, you should lose by more than 21 to nine. Like the fact that the muff kick punt return, they were down 14 nine, getting the ball back. The Chiefs could have won this game. They didn't have five fucking turnovers.

Yeah.

And they outgained the Broncos. So I'm happy for the Broncos. If you're the Chiefs, that's a different loss than the Niners and their three game losing streak where their defense keeps getting gashed. I think that's just that happened. Burn the tape. Like, let's stop fucking turning the ball over constantly.

The Chiefs will be fine as long as Patrick Mahomes doesn't have swine flu.

Right.

And it's like a multi week illness that he's got. But no, I think today turnovers go into the equation of which team was better.

Yeah.

No, teams turn the ball over a lot today. The Broncos were the better team. I think, more importantly, we all got fucked. We all got fucked on a snow game. It happens every year.

We got it last night. Colorado State Air Force.

Yeah.

Where they were throwing snowballs.

Incredible.

Yeah.

They got a penalty, but we got.

Fucked on our first snow game of the year, where in the morning they'll show you a clip of how bad the stadium is. It's like 08:00 a.m. And oh, yeah, we've got like, seven more hours until kickoff. They're probably going to clear off some of the snow. So we all got excited about a snow game. And there was no snow on the ground.

There was no snow.

Yeah.

And I would say more than the turnovers, because that was kind of a you turnovers, obviously, are part of the game, but there was some fluky shit that happened to the Chiefs. They have to stop dropping passes. Skymore had another one in the end zone that could have made it a one score game.

Late.

Sky Moore. He caught. Kaderius tony itis.

Yeah.

So the Chiefs, that would be the big thing. That would be the big takeaways. Like, stop dropping passes. You probably won't turn the ball over five times again, but stop dropping passes.

But you're happy if you're a Broncos fan, just because the insult stack goes away.

I have a question is, does this make Russell Wilson worth it?

No.

So the last six quarterbacks broncos quarterbacks couldn't beat the Chiefs. Trevor Simeon, Paxton Lynch, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, all couldn't beat the Chiefs.

No.

Brock in brock brock did not. He was like there was injuries. He missed the huh?

Yeah.

So congratulations, Broncos fans. You've gotten the monkey off your back.

And I think Russell Wilson's worth it.

What if he's just he becomes the Broncos killer and that's all he does?

The Chiefs Killer.

Yeah.

Well, he's also already also the Broncos killer. I did like how the Broncos are playing Taylor Swift after because now we get to start the narrative that we've all been waiting for. Travis Kelsey, in games that Taylor Swift attends is averaging 108 yards per game. In games that she doesn't attend, 46.5 yards per game.

You want to play harder for your girlfriend, right?

You do want to play harder for your girlfriend, but she's going on tour.

Was she watching today?

I don't know.

Did she put anything online? Can we look that up?

I don't know.

Is she a real fan?

You know, this take is going to happen.

Oh, it's already happened.

Kansas City radio.

They put it on the broadcast.

Yeah.

They said there's a very clear difference in games where she attends versus the ones that she doesn't.

He's too love struck when she's not there. He doesn't want to play football.

He's got too much common him.

I'm not going to go there.

He's got too much just backs him right up.

She's promoting her new album. That was out this weekend. I don't see anything about Travis Kelsey.

Oh, wow.

Interesting.

Was it 1989? Taylor's version?

I believe it's a banger.

And they broke the record. Broncos, 16 games. Damn.

Maybe they didn't give her tickets. Yeah, because if you're an opposing team, you can just say, she's not allowed here. Right. You can ban anybody from the stadium.

I was at the Blackhawks game last week, and I was saying to Donnie, you should just hire Taylor Swift lookalikes and just put them in a box. Show them on the fan cam.

Yeah, why not? You probably find one on cameo.

People would freak.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have a bunch of them put them.

Up in the suite level. He can't find her.

Right.

She's everywhere.

Or maybe he'll play really good because everybody looks like his girlfriend.

Yeah, it's not a bad idea, Hank.

I just think yeah, get the people going.

Yeah, get the people just talking. buzing talking about it.

Yeah.

The Chiefs now this Germany trip, the fact they're going on Thursday so late, I think they'll win against the Dolphins. But, yeah. Chiefs were the team that I felt the most confident in in the AFC. And again, this game is not a game where I'm like, oh, man, what's wrong with the Chiefs? He had five turnovers. Like, you just don't turn the ball over five times. But if they lose the Dolphins, then you got to start asking questions.

It feels like the Chiefs are trying to trap us. They're, like, begging us to say the thing that people say every year, which is like, what's wrong with the Chiefs?

Yeah, you're right.

Chiefs trade away their good players at the deadline.

We shouldn't fall for it.

You're trying your best, Chiefs, and I appreciate it, but you're not going to fool me. We already gave them the AFC West title last week, right?

We did, yeah.

So you already have it. No take backsies. Speaking about doppelgangers, I don't know if you guys watched on Sunday Countdown this week. They did a special on NFL doppelgangers. They had, like, the Trevor Lawrence girl that looks like Trevor Lawrence and a couple other people, the Aaron Rodgers guy from Europe or whatever. Then they were like, who are the ESPN doppelgangers? And they had Alex Smith. They put up a picture of Ryan Gosling. The picture looked a lot alike.

Okay?

He's a good looking guy. And then they said, what about Adam Schefter? And then they put up a picture of Paul Rudd. And they're like, doesn't he look just like Paul Rudd? And I thought I was going insane looking at my television, Chefy. I was like, good for you, Chefy, for for approving this package. But I don't think there's a guy on earth that looks less like Paul Rudd.

Damn.

Yeah.

Chefy, you got to take that shirt off.

Take that shirt off. Take the shirt off.

Oh.

Maybe the Vikings should call Chefy. Yeah. Play some quarterback.

Maybe gritty a little bit.

Yeah. Okay, before we get to the last three games, let's do our last ad. PFT.

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Okay. Ravens 31, Cardinals 24. Fuck nelson Aguilar for just I don't know what he was doing on that onside kick that was insane.

So I didn't see the onside kick because I was frustrated with how this game turned out to begin with.

Yes, we all time Cardinals cover at the end by the onside kick and getting the penalty on a missed field goal, their own penalty, getting to retake the field goal and hitting it and covering the nine and a half.

The penalties at the end on the field goals were bad because it was a penalty for, like, offsides, right? Yeah, it was offsides on your own field goal block team.

Yeah.

False start. And then they missed it wide right, and the second one went right down the dick. It was a tough way to lose a cover, but it does extend Lamar Jackson's career record against the NFC to 17 and one. So he continues to dominate the NFC. And also congrats to the Cardinals because when you're looking at the draft picks, you're now holding the first overall number one.

Number one. Maybe Kyler Murray comes back, you rip off a couple wins, but you're number one right now. Also, that touchdown by Trey McBride was awesome when he had the entire Ravens team trying to tackle him. If I was Trey McBride, I would just have that touchdown playing on loop when you walk into my house.

Yeah.

That was the best game by a Cardinals tight end in a very, very long time.

Yeah.

Just make that a piece of art. That's just a gift that's over your fireplace, your wall, your entire this is you getting trying like five grown men trying to take you down as you just carry them all into the end zone.

The entire front siding of your house should just be a giant projection of that play.

A drone light show.

And if you're the Ravens or if you're the Cardinals, you got the diamondbacks.

Yeah.

Let's not be greedy here.

No, you got the diamondbacks. And the Suns are number one pick.

Yeah.

And the number one pick.

And you got the number one pick. And as for the Ravens, they didn't play their best game on offense, but they still are better than the Cardinals, which I was thinking that maybe this was last week was going to be the jump off point for Tod Munkin's offense. Lamar didn't have the best game, but they still handle them pretty easily. And the Ravens defense was very good.

They were fine. So the Ravens have gone in a matter of, like, a couple years complaining about blowing all these fourth quarter victories that turn into losses. So now you're just complaining about blowing fourth quarter covers.

Covers that turn into back. Good problem to have.

It's a great problem to have if you're the Ravens.

Yeah, we do have a little odell.

Watch.

He smashed his helmet in frustration.

Yeah.

Was that because he got injured? But he also had zero catches.

I think he drew a pass interference on that and he was like, frustrated they didn't catch it. I think that did he spit into his helmet before he did it?

That's my big I don't know, but maybe a diva watch.

Oh.

I mean, Odell's been he's been up.

Yeah.

But I do like the purple hair. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, it looks cool.

Yeah.

And the Ravens ran the ball. I wonder if the Ravens are going to try to get a running back, because they also are in the Derrick Henry discussion yeah. Where it's like they have a Super Bowl they have Super Bowl aspirations, and they might want to try to beef up that running back room.

I always feel like the Ravens can plug whoever back there if Lamar is running the ball well.

Yeah.

He didn't even run the ball today.

It makes it a lot easier on anybody else that's in the backfield.

Yeah, but the Ravens are looking pretty good at six and two. I feel pretty confident about the Ravens. They have a big game against Seahawks next week, which will be kind of a who's for real situation because I'm high on the Seahawks as well. And they didn't play great against the Browns today. If either of those team wins that game handily, I'm going to be like, OOH, watch out.

I think the Seahawks are for real.

Yeah.

Okay, well, let's talk about that game. Seahawks 24, Browns 20. They did struggle a little today. I mean, they basically needed PJ. Walker to turn back into PJ. Walker at the very end with that interception to win the game because they came out so hot, looked like it was going to be a route, and they just toyed around. The Browns were able to run the ball, and they needed heroics at the end to win that game, which I did not going into it. I did not think that's how that game was going to play out.

It's kind of similar to the jets, how they win a bunch of weird, strange games in different ways. The Seahawks have actually found themselves in that position where they're in first place in the division.

Remember, we had that discussion on Friday and I was talked out of it because of our friend George Kittle.

They're in first place.

First place right now.

I did not see the 49 ers losing.

They are in first place right now. When I said that it was plus 400. Now they're plus 250.

And it's Jake Bobo time.

Yeah. That guy's awesome.

Fun to say.

I fucking love him. I love him.

The Seahawks wore great throwback uniforms today, too.

Yeah, they did.

Jamal Adams made a big play wearing the throwback helmet. Bounced right off it.

Yep.

Got the pick.

PJ.

Walker putting the ball in his hands. People are going to be questioning a lot of things Stefanski does, but I actually think that Stefanski is doing a great job coaching this team this year with PJ. Walker mostly running the don't they?

I guess they have to figure out, like, hey, Deshaun, are you going to play this year? Because their defense is now their defense has the last couple of weeks been not the defense. It was the historic defense the first month and a half of the season. But their defense is still awesome. You just need a B level quarterback. PJ. Walker, nice guy. I think his ceiling is like C. So, Deshaun, are you going to play? Are you going to play?

I think he's going to come back maybe next week, maybe the week after.

What is he even injured?

What's, his rotator cuff?

I don't buy it. So, yeah, I don't think he likes football.

A lot of people were having the discourse, does Deshaun Watson love does he love being a football player or does he love playing football? I love that conversation.

That's a very good because I think.

He just loves being a football player. Big cat.

He loves being paid like a football player.

I don't think that he loves football. He doesn't love the grind.

I hope he uses this actually, that's a bad choice of words. I hope he uses this clip as like a lot of people have been doubting my love for the game.

You know what? I'm going to doubt Deshaun Watson.

I'm going to call him out.

I'm going to call him out. I think I love football more than Deshaun Watson.

I know I love football more than he does. I'm going to call him out.

You could cut off my arm. I'd still go out there with my boys on Sunday.

Absolutely. I wouldn't fumble.

No, never with one arm. I have too much pride to hope. My details are that important to me, where I'd never fumble.

No chance.

Don't take a sack in a big time scenario where you're going to get backed up out of field goal range, either. I know that I would never take.

I'd throw the ball away. I'd never take every time.

You know what? Because an incompletion is not a bad thing to happen. No, I know that because I love football.

I'd also make plays. I'd make plays happen.

I'd make plays with my arm and.

My feet and my mind because I can read a defense.

Yep.

Front and back. And you know what else I'd do?

I'd grab guys by the face mask if they're not on their assignments.

Yeah.

I'd head butt people without my face mask on.

I'd pull them over and I'd say, no, you're running the wrong route.

That's just guys that love football. Unlike Deshaun Watson, I would also never.

Throw my guys under the bus.

Nope.

There's a lot of things I wouldn't do.

Never talk about another man's money.

Never do that.

I'd be the first one in, last one out. That's a fact. I wouldn't go apple picking on my bi week. No, I'd be in the film room. I'd be in the film grinding.

I'd have my nose. I'd have my nose in the playbook all the time. Yeah, all the time. All the time. I'd be studying every play I'd know, every play I'd check into. All the right protections is another thing I would do.

See who's hot, see who's not.

All that stuff I would reward my guys for mean. Listen, Deshaun, it's pretty clear right now that we love football more than you do.

We just rattled off all the things that you don't love. Deshaun probably was listening to this podcast, and when we started talking about how much we love football, he turned it off. He's like, These guys are freaks. They love football.

I would love the preparation even more than the games.

Easily.

Practice is where I shine.

That's what a freak I am.

The weight room, I live there.

I get in there. I'd be lifting with the old lineman. You know what?

All day, I'd be hanging out with.

The old lineman after work, too.

I'd buy them gifts. Not even for Christmas. Just for being alive.

Every day. I would see my offensive line. I would give them another Yeti cooler.

Yeah, yeti cooler. It sounds like you're going cheap. I'd be getting them the fucking tricked out golf carts every day.

That'd be sick, too.

They just have so many, they wouldn't know what to do.

Well, you have to have the golf cart to put the Yeti cooler in the back.

That's true.

They're hand in hand.

Yeah, I get them yeti. Golf carts.

Get them cowboy boots.

Yeah, all of it. Watches only maybe like, a couple of times a year.

Not too fives cash.

Listen, I love football way more than Deshaun Watson loves football.

He's been called out.

He loves being a football player.

Deshaun Watson, if you're listening to this, tell us your favorite thing about football. Bet you can't you're probably going to say the money.

Yeah.

You can't say that.

I'd play for free. I should have said that to start. I would play for free.

I would pay them yeah. To let me play $1 for the.

Honor, because they'd have to pay me one.

It's a privilege to play in the National Football League. A lot of guys think that. No, it should be given to you. I disagree. I think it's a privilege to go out there and you protect a shield.

And if they had to pay me because of rules and everything, the NFLPA, I'd restructure my deal every fucking day. Move money around. I'd be so cap friendly, I'd give my guaranteed money back. That's how much we love football, Hank. How much you love football?

We're just different. Not that much.

And that was Deshaun Watson. That was our interview with Deshaun Watson right there. Okay.

I hope he hears that. Yeah, I hope somebody cuts it up.

And someone send that to him. All right, last one. Bengals, 31, niners, 17. Uhoh, this was a can't lose.

I said, going into it's, a can't lose for both teams. The niners lost.

The Niners are in trouble. All right, so we should start with saying that the Bengals are all the way back. These are the Bengals that if you're a Bengals fan, you spent the first month saying to yourself, I don't think this is the real team. I think they'll be back eventually. But as the weeks went by, you're like, I'd really like to see it eventually, because even in their wins, like their Monday Night Football win against the Rams, it wasn't great. Their Seahawks win, the offense didn't look great. This was the Bengals announcing their back because Joe Burrow was out of this world good. 28 for 32, 283 yards, three touchdowns, and he ran the ball 63 yards running or 43 yards running. Sorry. But you could tell that play he made where he almost got sacked, like, four different times, he was throwing off him. Yeah, he's healthy, and this is what you want from the Bengal. If you're a Bengals fan, you are having the best night of your sleep of the 2023 season. I know that for a fact, because you're like, we're good. Joe Burrows back. We got the Bills at home next week, and they kicked the shit out of the Niners.

They ran all over them. They did everything they wanted.

Yeah, the running game was really good, and Burrow did look like himself. And Jamar Chase was always open.

Always.

He was open the entire game. It was pretty sick to watch the Bengals rounded for him. We did get robbed of one of the best plays of the day, where Burrow fumbled the ball. They ruled that he was already down, so they blew the whistle. The center on the Bengals picked up. Keras probably had he probably could have gone for, like, 35 yards, running straight downhill with the ball, and they ruled it that he was down, but it was a fumble. I really wish that we could have gotten that, because it would have been a great highlight.

It's also great whenever an offensive lineman picks up the ball, because they have two competing thoughts in their head. One is, I got to start running, and the other is they start looking around, like, who am I going to fight? You could see it in his face. He's like, who am I going to fight? Someone's going to try to tackle me. I get to fight someone. And it's so much fun to watch that happen. At the same time.

I love it when they take the ball and they immediately go into, like, ball protection mode. They put two arms, like, one arm on top, one arm on bottom, and they just start running forward and eventually just get their knees cut out from underneath them and go down. But it's a great play, and I'm sad that it got taken off the books today.

As for the Niners, they're in trouble. Their defense has been bad the last two weeks. I know everyone's talking about Brock Purdy, who's also not been good, and people are like, OOH, is Brock Purdy starting to turn back into a pumpkin? I have more confidence in Trent Williams and Debo Samuel coming back and the Niners offense looking like they have for the first six weeks of the season or five weeks of the season. The Niners defense is the issue.

Yeah.

I don't think Brock he didn't play that poorly today.

That one interception was bad.

Yeah, it a bad interception, but the rest of the game, I thought Brock was good enough to win, but their.

Defense just stunk and they got gashed again. They got gashed against the Vikings. They got gashed against the Is. That is a cause for concern because, what, three weeks ago, we're like, no one's going to beat the Niners now. They've lost three in a row.

Yeah.

There's some bad stats out there that are following Kyle Shanahan around when it comes to playing from behind. The first one, which is not good, is that Kyle Shanahan as a head coach is now owing 37 when trailing by eight in the fourth quarter. I think it's fair to say that the Niners are not built to play from behind. It's tough for them. They like to run the ball a lot, and especially when they have Trent Williams out and Debo Samuel out, it's going to be very hard for them to come back from. They're not, like, super explosive. But there's another one where I think they haven't won a game either. Or maybe they've got one win when they're trailing by three in the fourth quarter, too. So Shanahan not the best at coming from behind. You have to jump out to an early lead.

But again, I think their offense is going to be fine. It's just their defense looks bad. It looks bad.

Yeah.

The Vikings had 452 yards on them and the Bengals put 400 yards on them tonight. That's not a Super Bowl defense right now, as the last two games have been played, I hope Brock Birdie we're going to start the discourse, and it naturally will happen. He was being talked about in one way when they were five, and now he's a quarterback.

Yeah.

Are you worried?

I'm not worried about Brock. I think Brock is kind of who Brock is, but the defense is but it is Brocktober.

It is Brocktober, and it hasn't been Brocktober.

He did come back from a concussion.

Pretty quickly, and he might have gotten concussed again today.

There was a moment where he hit his head on the ground with, like, a tua situation. He started, like, grabbing his head.

Yeah.

Not good. But again, if you're going to rank, like, what's the problem with the 49 Ers right now? I think Brock is probably third on the list.

Yeah.

And they have a by week. So they're going to get healthy and they'll be good. Possibly.

I think they'll be okay.

Their defense has to be fixed, but.

The Seahawks are good.

They missed Ryan's.

Mm hmm.

That's really what they got.

Wilkes.

Is that their defense coordinator? Listen, Demiko's a good fucking coach. And now they're not in the driver's seat in the NFC West anymore. Nope. Okay. I guess we could talk real quick about the Bears. Tyson bajant, maybe not the is that is that good?

I think it's probably overall a good thing, because if he was guy adjacent, then people would be putting a lot of pressure on Justin Fields. You probably wouldn't get the first or second overall pick.

He does get the ball out fast.

He's fun.

Very fun. I also thought the first interception I don't know. I'd have to watch the all 22, which I will, because I love football. Felt like the receivers both ran the wrong route because it was very bizarre. Looked like he threw to a spot and neither guy was there.

Yeah. So do you guys have any teams or any players that you're going to be unloading?

No.

So you're going to stick with these guys?

I don't think we have any I don't know if we have much that.

People that people would want.

Yeah.

Cole Comet.

Yeah, but he's young.

Yeah.

Like DJ. Moore's young.

Yeah.

You don't want to give up. You have to, at some point, try to build a roster. The chargers looked great, though. I think they scored on every single offensive possession. The Chargers basically walked away from that game being like, wouldn't it be fun to play the Bears every week?

Yeah. If you're a Chargers fan, you are probably looking at how big Everett looks every time he touches the ball. And being like that'sick. I love that we've got a giant tight end that nobody should be able to tackle.

That stiff arm he put on Hicks was little boy esque. It was it was like trying know, little brother, big brother trying to get at him, and he couldn't.

There's a few guys in the NFL when they have the ball in their hand and you look at them and you just say, like, it's impossible to tackle this.

Yeah. Yeah.

So the Chargers look good, and Justin Herbert looked good. His finger thing is so weird.

It was param.

Everett's out.

Everett's out.

Yeah, param.

But param is even.

Everett's also big. He's param.

Yeah.

Param is six eight.

Yeah.

Parham's a beast. I guess Tyson Pageant only threw two interceptions. I thought there was a third mixed in there.

Yeah.

Justin Herbert looked great getting to play the Bears defense. Two things, though, that I'd love to just point out national media wise. I believe it was Collinsworth said, the Bears aren't built to play from behind. The Bears aren't built to play from ahead. The Bears aren't built to play with a tie. The Bears. Aren't built to play. I don't know what that was like. This team can't play from we can't play anyway.

I don't think the Bears can beat you in a shootout.

Yeah.

There's any type of game you want to the Bears can beat Brian Hoyer.

The Bears can beat the Commanders if.

Dick Buckus just is like it was a pretty stark difference when you play against Justin Herbert versus the Raiders and yeah, that one was bad. And then Jason Garrett on the pregame said he loves how Eberflu says righted. The ship.

I think Jason Garrett just wants a job. That's what it sounds like to I.

Don'T the definition of writing the ship because they won two games against a bad Raiders team and a bad Commander's team. No offense. No, we're bad. I don't think we've rided the ship. No, I think the ship has not been righted. I think the ship's still taking on water. Briefly.

It was like, you remember when the Titanic broke apart and half of it sunk down and this might flow and then for a second half of it stayed up until the bottom half dragged it down. That's where you guys were at.

Yeah. We rided the ship and we're like, hey, maybe there's a lot of metal, maybe we'll stay up.

And now you've got Eberflus clinging into, like a door like jack. Yeah, but then Rose lets go.

Yeah.

And Ryan Poles is going to let go. You told me you would never let go, Rose.

That guy, I got to shout him out. I think his name's Ross Reed. He had a great it was Eberflus walking in and I think it was Ted Phillips and Ryan Poles behind him and he's wearing basically the same suit as Joe Pesci and goodfellows.

Right before he gets whacked when he gets made.

Yeah.

In the maid ceremony.

Yeah.

So yeah. Things aren't going well. I'm not going to say the take. I want to say no, I'm going to say it.

Say it.

I didn't love that Justin Fields is wearing sunglasses on the sideline. I didn't love it. I know this makes me sound like an old guy.

I agree.

I don't know if you show up to your job.

I don't know if you're at your job and you're wearing sunglasses.

You are a piece of shit. Did you not think it was a little weird?

It might have been bright on the sidelines.

Might have been bright.

Marijuana is legal.

I don't know. You sound like Colin here. I know. Listen, I said that before, I was like, this is going to be an old man take. Maybe it's because we were losing and it was bad and I want Justin Fields to play and I want to see what the rest of the season looks like with him. I just didn't love the sunglasses. I know. There's going to be like old radio guys who are going to have the same take as me, and that will make me feel old. But guess what? We're in the trustry part of my take. We let it fly. We shoot from the hip. I didn't love it.

There's an old saying. There's two types of people that wear sunglasses indoors. Blind people and assholes.

Right.

Anyone else have the same feeling or was just me?

Make of that what you will.

Okay. Do a quick Twitter search.

You don't want to do that.

Sunglasses. There's going to be people agreeing with me that I do not agree with in general.

This seems like Danny Cannell is all over this.

Yeah.

Yeah. This is a Danny. You're absolutely morphing into Danny.

Cannell Fuck Danny canats.

Yeah.

Justin Fields wearing sunglasses indoors looks like an asshole. I love fields. So listen, we've had him on the show. I feel like I can say this if I were standing next to him, I've been like, maybe if we're winning the sunglasses play, when you're getting your ass kicked the way we got our ass kicked, maybe take them off.

You know what? If you guys win that game, they become deal with it sunglasses.

Right? Exactly. Yeah.

That's really what it is. Now that I'm happy we talked this out, it's not the sunglasses. It's the loss in the sunglasses.

Yeah.

Because it gives you one more thing.

To be because you know what?

You don't want him oh, no.

You don't want him to look cool as you're losing. Coward.

Rodney Harrison just came at Justin Fields on the post game show for literally no reason for wearing sunglasses.

All right.

I'm disavowing myself. I had no problem with him wearing sunglasses.

What was your take with Dion? It's the same thing.

Yeah, no, I don't think Dion should wear sunglasses when he's coaching.

Okay?

Coaches wear sunglasses all the time, but at night, transition lenses.

Deon does not wear transition lenses.

They are they're just always reflective.

It really is. As I'm talking this out, it really just comes out to winning and losing. If you win with sunglasses, it's cool. If you lose with sunglasses, it's like, come on, man.

It's like painting your nails.

Yeah.

If you lose and your nails are painted, then it's like, dude, why are you painting your nails?

It's like when you win, it's like.

This dude's got swag.

It's like when Brady Hoke didn't wear a headset on the Michigan sideline. When you lose without a headset, you're a fucking asshole.

Yeah.

When you win without a headset, it's like, oh, he's good. Yeah, no problem.

You just don't want to give anybody a thing to point at.

Idiots like me a thing to point at. Anything to point at. So I'm disavowing my own take. It was a momentary lapse. I know that people are going to make this take, and I'm going to be like, I don't like these people who are making this take.

Are the lights too bright for Justin Fields?

I put myself in a box. This one. It's going to be on Monday morning. Stephen A is probably going to do it. Howard's going to do it. Skip's going to do it. I hate myself. I hate Canel's. For sure going to do it. Here's the thing, is I fucking hate myself.

Canel is going to be pissed off that he wakes up tomorrow and he didn't have this take.

I'm I hate myself. All right. Officially disavowing my own take. No problem with the sunglasses.

You have a problem with the losing.

Have a problem with the losing and the way we lost because we got our ass kicked. Happy we talked that out. Okay, let's finish the show with who's. Back of the week brought to you by Roback Rowback. Question use code take. Rho back. Rowback.com promo code take. Qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers shorts. I'm wearing the joggers right now. You can see me. Flexible. I'm flexible.

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The week is Francis Nanganu.

Yeah.

Technically, he's not really back. Tyson Fury. They boxed Tyson Fury, francis Nganu this weekend in Saudi Arabia.

Oh, that's where it was.

Yeah.

I was wondering why it's a weird time.

I hate that every fight should be in Vegas.

Yeah.

Because I kind of saw it during the day. I was like, damn, I would have watched this if it was at night. I don't really like the Logan Paul boxing. Like, those don't really draw my interest too much. But like, Tyson Fury, just two big men fighting is what you want to see. Two heavyweights.

Francis Nganu also has the perfect champion fighters. Well, it's also the perfect like, he's not a boxer, but one punch.

Yeah.

And that's why I bought every Mike Tyson pay per view after he was completely washed, I was like, but what about that one punch?

And he did get a punch on him.

Yeah, he got a bunch of punches on him. Knocked him down. He had his energy. He was fighting till the end. Split decision. But a lot of people were saying that he won.

So who's back?

Technically, Tyson Fury won the split decision. Naganu is back.

It was crazy because Tyson Fury always looks a little bit out of shape, but he looked so out of shape next to Nganu. Just like they look like different species.

Yeah, he did. He was the heaviest he's ever been. Was it as they said? Which bullshit for the announcers to say that? Yeah, he's the fattest he's ever been.

But I almost respect that.

Yeah.

You know how cocky you have to be to go into a fight and see your opponent looking like Nganu and saying, you know what? I'm just going to eat a lot. I don't really need to train that much for it.

Obviously, he trained against Anthony Joshua. He probably just didn't train as hard for this. But now he's maybe going to do more actual heavyweight boxing fights. I think I saw somewhere that the Fighting Commission was going to rank Naganu as a top ten ranked boxer. So if he fights again, potentially, it could be for a championship.

This is the whole reason he wanted out of the UFC or wanted Dana White to give him the ability to do this, because he probably made more in this fight than he made at the UFC. His career, definitely. It's crazy. Okay, good.

Who's. Yeah.

I saw his brother, Tommy Fury made, like, $10 million doing the YouTube fight against KSI.

We should become fighters.

You were Hank.

Yeah.

I got ten k. But we love Tasbal too much. Too much, too much.

Because it'd be a distraction if we started a fight. It's like, Is this guy really focused on football?

All right, PFT, your who's back.

My who's back of the week is Flava Flav.

Oh, yeah.

Flava Flav got brought out at a Bucks game to sing the national anthem. And you know what? On a sliding scale of how good I thought Flava Flav would do versus how good he actually did, he knocked out of the park.

Yeah.

He absolutely crushed it. Now, on a scale of people who are actually invited to sing national anthems at professional basketball games, probably, like, right above Fergie and nobody else, I would.

Love to know, because whoever made the decision is hilarious.

Yeah, agreed.

And I'm sure there was someone on the inside who didn't really they're like, yeah, flavor Flav rapper.

Sure.

Not knowing Flava Flav. And then when they saw this, we're like, why the fuck did we book Flava Flav to sing the national anthem? Yeah, but it was worth it because it was a very, very funny video.

Yes, it was. And he tried. Yeah, he tried.

He did a good job.

He did try for flava, Flavon, flav.

I think he probably performed as well as he possibly could have.

Where do you think New York is these days? I love New York. I loved her. She was the best.

That show is on. Young enough, that show. And who is the blonde hair rock star? Keith?

Oh, no.

Rose has its thorns.

You're talking about poison. Bret Michaels.

Yeah.

Brett Michaels, double Shot of Love. Bret Michaels.

Was that rock of love.

Those.

Maybe it was Rock of Love. Double Shot was I forget he was always tequila. Yeah.

Nazi. Those yeah.

Problematic. Those shows were on when I was young enough, where I didn't understand celebrity, and it blew my mind where I was like, how do these guys have all these girls just competing like Flava Flav?

Like, who is this guy? Yeah, it was the best.

And Bret Michaels used to always walk into a room and just be like, what's the going on. That was, like, his catchphrase.

It was great.

I said, what's the going on? Like every time I would walk into a room that year's.

New York versus Pumpkin. Oh, one of the greatest rivalries of all time. When she spit on her the best. That was a great show.

VH One really had a nice little.

Run as a girl that won. Ended up dating, getting married to Shaq.

She had game big time. All right, my who's. Back of the week is the World Series. Two games in. It was actually very funny because when we were in Madison, I offered to buy tickets for everyone, and I offered to buy tickets for Max on must have been Monday or Tuesday. And he said, no, this is fake news. Because he thought the Phillies were going to be in the world.

This is fake news. This is fake news.

Damn.

This is just not true. Yeah, this is not true.

It sounds like it's true.

What?

Big catch us.

I said that.

Wait, I wasn't add up.

Yeah.

When was game seven?

I asked him on Monday.

Game.

Seven was Tuesday. And he was like, no, I'm good. I don't want to go to the game. Correct. Because he looked at the World Series schedule and he said, Saturday night is incorrect.

Game two incorrect.

I never said that. I didn't want to go to the game. I didn't want to go into the game.

It was cold.

Can't drink in the stadium. I wanted to go to the bars. Okay, you just completely made up that narrative that it had nothing to do.

With the World Series.

Had nothing to do with the potential World Series.

Okay.

How was the World Series? Game two?

Didn't watch it.

Oh. At all. Wasn't on at the bar.

I was watching the Badgers.

Oh, okay. But game one was incredible. So it's one one diamondbacks. We're rooting for the diamondbacks. Our guy Dan Heron. Game one, though. The craziest stat ever. So obviously they played another road game last night, but after game one, the Diamondbacks had played in four Road Series games in the history of their franchise, and three out of four of them, they had given up a two run home run in the bottom of the 9th.

Yeah. There was a wild video that went out there about George W. Bush who threw out the first pitch.

Yeah.

And they did a mashup of George Bush throwing out the first pitch in this game, also in the World Series, back when it was in New York, when he threw that heater right down Broadway and then the left handed home runs that lined up the opposite field shots. It was crazy. We're about to have a rack war. Three if this keeps going.

Ravel also was like, if I'm George Bush, I would never throw another first pitch out because you just ruined the one in 2001. No, he didn't.

No.

That's still an iconic first pitch that will never be taken away. I don't even remember what his first pitch on Friday night looked like.

He bounced it.

Okay, but who cares?

The pitch in 2001 is I mean, you talk about ravel definitely has primetime player.

He definitely has some type of memorabilia. He probably's got, like, a piece of the dirt or something.

He's got ticket stub from that.

Yeah.

And he's like, now it's not worth as much because we know that he bounced one.

Yeah, but that was a game. One was listening I was driving home yesterday and listening to some post game on it, and Buster Only was talking about the Diamondbacks pitching staff and their coaches.

By the way, this is way older than my sunglasses.

Yeah, I was listening to baseball radio.

No, baseball post game post game radio.

Yeah.

Old school.

Way older.

Oh, you love to hear the guys, and they do, like, a two hour post game show, and God bless them for figuring out things to talk about baseball for 2 hours nonstop. But Buster Only was like, dan Heron is he is the pitching architect. He's the architect.

Probably heard us talking about he's the.

Architect of this Arizona Diamondbacks rotation.

I think he has a locker right now. He tweeted a picture. He should, like an analyst locker.

He should.

He's the architect.

Fuck, we got to get him on. I hope they win. I hope we can get him on drunk.

Oh, yeah.

Be great. Okay, Jake, finish us off. Your who's back.

My who's back of the week is Dylan Brooks being a villain.

First off, bronzetopper.

Yeah.

He got cooked today by Steph Curry. I don't know if you guys saw the highlight.

I did.

And second off, when I asked about Victor Wenbenyama when they played over the weekend, he said, he's tall. That's really it.

Yeah, I love that take.

People got masked.

No, I love that take, because that's every guy that doesn't actually play basketball. They just point at a guy who's 7ft tall and be like, he's just tall. If I was that tall, I'd be a great basketball player, too.

That's like when Shaq in his heyday, when I was a little kid, one of my first worst takes was, like, he's just bigger than everyone. He's not that good.

Yeah.

If he wasn't allowed to dunk, he wouldn't be good at basketball.

I think he's embracing being the villain. I think it's good.

Yeah, well, you got to be good at basketball to also embrace being the villain, because if you are bad at basketball and embrace being the villain, you'll just get letter. What is it? Memes. What's the meme?

Get ready to learn Chinese, buddy.

Yeah, memes. I needed you there.

Wait, did you say the Batman line or the ready to learn Chinese?

What the fuck Batman line?

You're saying you either die, hero, live.

No villain, no get ready to learn Chinese. That's like, one of your go to memes.

That is now it's get ready to learn Canadian when somebody plays bad in.

The oh, that's good.

Oh, that is good. Like that a. What about get ready to learn flag football rules?

Well, you could win a gold medal now.

Yeah, true.

Steph Curry did hit him with yeah.

He hit him with the crazy scream face.

Yeah.

The home alone. Okay, good show, boys. Good show. I think we're going to do a hockey preview on Wednesday.

I like it.

Hank, you have to remind Ryan Whitney or Mike Grunnell.

Okay.

Ryan whitney on it.

Everyone tweet Whitney and say, remember, you have to do pardon My Take at 230 Eastern on Tuesday. Please tweet him. That a reminder. Okay. Hank, have you ever gotten this?

No.

That a boy. Good answer.

Have you?

Good answer.

All right.

Numbers 318, 31, 2031.

Someone's going to get it today.

I go 70.

What's?

31, Hank.

Someone's going to get it today.

Shane.

Ten for Shane.

You would you go 31.

We'll give Evan 69.

Birthday.

Is it for my birthday? Thanks, Hank.

He didn't remember your birthday.

Halloween.

Memes.

What was yours?

Mine's three. Evans is 69.

Okay.

Here we go.

Oh, I love that sound.

Yeah.

Starts up like an F 18 lightning lending both candles.

Yes.

You are such an idiot. Why'd you go 31?

You're such an idiot. First person in the bridge. It would have been a historical selection. That's your number, ank that's your fucking number, dude. If you had been the first, it would have killed me.

You got so cute with it.

It would have killed me if you were the first. And that's your number. You guess it every time, and you didn't guess it this time. And it went 17.

Why did you take 31, Hank?

That literally is your number. That's insane. That's your number. You could have been shut the fuck do you know how much you could have flexed on us if you had gotten that?

A lot.

Instead of any of us? Like that's your dream scenario. And was 17. Why did you go 31? Why'd you go 31?

I don't even want to say it.

No, you should.

You have to say it.

You have to blame something.

You have to say it.

Stooly gave you the number.

I guess he's never going to there's just some fucking dickhead who just keeps DMing.

He can't even hear me.

Hank's the worst.

Hank's the worst.

Hank's the worst.

Hank, why did you do that?

Wow.

You know what? We could do one more. Yeah, it could count. Hank, you want to do one more? Nah.

I don't think we should.

Nah, we won't. I'll do one. It doesn't count. I just want to see. I wish it was 31, Hank. That's brutal, dude. That's brutal.

Tommy count, though.

Tommy got you, Tommy. Why would you listen to Tommy smokes?

Not Tommy smokes.

Love you guys. Damn.

You're not going to sleep tonight. That's so brutal. That fucking rock, kid. Eris fuck.

You talking away today's another day to find you talking away I know what I'm saying. Anyway today's another day to find you shine away I'll be coming for your love for your love of jam I don't take day let's say I'm on Jenny. Life is a day life's a better to be safe beside it to be safe beside you you make me I beg on Jesus.