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Welcome to pardon my take. Today is Monday, November 6, week nine.

Whip, whip, whip, whip, whip.

We start week eight.

Nine.

Wait, it's not week eight.

Nine.

Are you saying nine or nine?

Nine.

Okay.

In week nine, we had a rematch.

Of World War II where US invaded Germany and they brought their fat man and little boy with Andy Reed and Mike McDaniels. Kansas City came out to a dominating lead and had the Dolphins surrounded, but left them off the hook like Dunkirk in the second half. Raheem spicy brown. Mostert had the Chiefs in a pretzel.

One of those huge German ones that rocks.

But it was too little too late, as the quarterback left a third and ten throw short and the Chiefs escaped.

The bunker with a win. Chiefs 21, Dolphins 14. Back to america. Real America. Houston, Texas, where the Stroud boys had an uprising while Tampa Bay tried to stop the count late in the fourth tank, for whom the Dell tolls it. Tolls for the Tampa found his hemming way into the end zone twice. Houston was cooking up a storm on their food network as Dalton Brown combined for 16 catches and 2283 yards, leaving tod on the toilet bowls. Texans 39 The Bucks 37 Tick, tick.

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick in Atlanta, where the Vikings season had a jaron hall pass after they were forced to start the rookie. But oh, my God, that's stone cold.

Josh, dobbs music.

As God is my witness, Josh Dobbs is back. Josh Calvin and Dobbs in relief had the Falcons defense looking like paper tigers, and he put defenders in the funny papers time and time again.

John Nuna Matata said, there will be.

No worries for the rest of your days if you own Kyle Pitts in fantasy after he scored a long touchdown to put the Falcons up. But the Falcons forgot about Brandon POW POW powell wheels as he activated his little electronic motor for the winning score.

Vikings 31 falcons 28.

Josh Dobbs is a quarterback.

After three games, Josh Dobbs up to Baltimore, where Michael Keaton Mitchell was looking dope and sick as he hit the multiplicity button on yards. The Seahawks were on a hot streak, but seemed to have run out of luck at the Cagino busting out broke. In another game, odell Beckham blew out the candles for his birthday and then celebrated by blowing out the back of the Seahawks as he forced it into their end zone. Michael Jackson, Smith and Jigba will be moonwalking back to Seattle as the Seahawks are bad. They're bad and they really, really know it. They're bad. Ravens 37, the Seahawks three. Out in the desert where it was.

Tony P and LV showing off positive masculinity as Antonio Pierce felt and touched his players before the game.

The Giants aren't good, but they have some fellas like Tommy Two Times DeVito.

We call him Tommy Two Times because he throws interceptions two times. Here's a pick, here's a pick.

Josh Jacob.

Gyllenhaal nightcrawled his way to two scores as the Raiders broke the back of the Giants season.

The Raiders 30, Giants six, the New York Football Giants, and the Las Vegas.

Raiders.

We go up to Green Bay, where Sean Timothy McVeigh's plans blew up at his face and puka necklace Nakua looked like a shell of himself. Anders Hot Carlson took a dump all over the Rams face catching for two field goals, and Rams fans watching their backup play felt like they were ripping balls on psychedelics, watching Bret fumble snaps and throw picks. Return of the mat. LaFleur is back up in the game, playing with his favorite R and B. Aaron Jones again, as the packers beat the Rams 20 to three over to New England.

Joe Sly, the science guy, started off.

The scoring with a first quarter field going.

Bill.

Bill Belichick had no answer for Brian jackie Robinson, who broke the goal line.

Barrier in the second quarter for seven.

Hunter Henry Lockhart was flying high after.

Scoring this weekend, and Ramondre the Giant.

Stevenson was asking the crowd, does anybody want a peanut?

After rushing in for a touchdown of his own late in the quarter, mac.

Jones was picked off by Jartavius Martin.

Garricks, who was high on life after stealing the win. Now he can say officially, just like the motherfucker on that plane, the lighthouse is not real.

Oh.

Washington 20, Patriot 17.

That was incredible.

Boom. Thanks, Boom.

That was the best boomer ever. Boom.

Thanks, Boom. I'm teach over to Philadelphia, where the Cowboys play in a house of pain. Duck it up. Duck it in. Let me begin I came to win step out of bounds, that's a sin as DAC did his best impression of Jerry Jones hitting the white lines a little too early as he stepped out on a costly two point conversion. Jalen hurts so good, you know your knee don't feel like it should jalen hurt so good. Played a heroic second half, but it was the Eagles defense that played like cougars, tackling a lamb to finish the game. The Eagles 28, the Cowboys 23.

Standing on a corner, James Winston down and no love such a fine sight to see it takes some hill, my Lord running for a score and throwing for a score. Running, Chago z. Come on, Beijing, get off the pavement. Justin's coming back and you haven't gotten paid yet. Saints go marching 20 417. And that is week nine, fastest two Minutes, brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a new family with unstoppable grit, and they are the official partners, the Pardon My Take family, and that is the Chevy Silverado ZR Two family. The first ever Silverado heavy duty ZR Two joins the franchise to make Chevy ZR Two the only truck brand with a full lineup of trucks ready for wherever your offroad adventures take you. With exclusive multimatic DSSV dampers, rugged, mud terrain tires, and up to 14 available camera views, the Chevy Silverado ZR Two and Silverado Hdzr Two, a family with commanding and unstoppable grit. So head to Chevy.com. Check out the Chevy Silverado and family of Chevy ZR two S. The official trucks of pardon my take. Thank you to Chevy. We are a Chevy podcast, and they are sponsoring fastest two minutes.

So shout out Chevy. Okay. That was a great boomers, Hank. Maybe boomer of the year.

People are saying, I'm honored.

Did you work on that? You came on that all on your own.

That's all me.

I love you.

It was a pure Henry.

Yes. So week nine in the books. We're going to talk about Bengals Bills at the end because we are in the middle of the fourth quarter right now. Looks like the Bengals are going to win after a very costly Dalton Kincaid fumble. But let's get into week nine. Let's get into week nine. I feel like we really found out who the absolute worst teams in the league are this week. And also more questions at the top than I had going into it. I feel like I disagree. Oh, okay.

I think we found out who the best teams are.

Yeah, there's a couple of very good teams. Yeah, I'm more talking cowboys. Eagles. I'm still very confused how that went, but let's get into the games. Let's start with the game in Germany. Chiefs 21, Dolphins 14. The Miami Dolphins are officially frauds. Frauds. They're not real. They're not real.

They got some very winnable games coming up. And then the times where they play against the good teams, I think we're going to see more of the same.

Yeah.

When they play Kennesaw State in two weeks, they'll probably put up 100. And then they got to play Alabama, and it's not going to look good. So the Dolphins are now versus teams with a losing record five and with a combined score, 234 to 125. So almost doubling up the score, the Dolphins versus teams with a winning record are owing 3100 for their opponent, 51 for them.

When they play good defense, they kind of turtle a little bit. And I think the Chiefs are a really good defense.

I think the Chiefs are a top five defense, which is crazy to say, but I think that that's the scariest part about the Chiefs is that their offense still doesn't look like Peak Mahomes, because I think in the second half, they went completely to sleep. I think they had 46 yards total in the second half, but their defense is very much legit. Held two to under 200 yards, held the Dolphins scoreless in the first half, even after all the sleep, nothing has made me more mad at myself than putting that much weight behind the travel, because I was front and center on the Dolphins or frauds and hammer against them when they play any good team. And the travel. The fact the Chiefs went on Thursday got me off.

That sent me up, too. Andy Reid.

We should have made so much money betting the Chiefs.

Andy Reid beat time this weekend. He's so good of a coach that he beat time. Andy Reid versus seconds is a battle for the ages. And he came out on top. Uh, it was really two halves, though. First half, you had Tyreek Hill and his fumble that was returned for the touchdown. That was the play of the game, where it's I mean, Tyreek former Chief talking a lot of shit going into this game, gets stripped, loses the ball, they return it. They rugby it back for a touchdown. And at that point, it felt like the Chiefs were going to just dominate and put them away, like 40 to 740 to 14, something like that. And then the second half, the Chiefs looked like they were the ones that were asleep.

The Dolphins defense played well. And I think if you are a Dolphins fan, today is not a great day because you need to beat one good team to feel like you are a true Super Bowl contender. Because guess what? When you get to the playoffs, all you do is play good teams.

It doesn't matter who you play in the playoffs. If you're a Dolphins fan, you are going to be officially nervous as shit for that first game.

Right. But the Dolphins defense did like they looked good in the second half. The Chiefs did basically nothing in the second half. But it's the fact that whenever the Dolphins, that high flying, greatest show on surf is what they're calling it, goes up against a decent defense, it gets stymied and looks completely different.

Yeah, and I love watching Isaiah Pacheco run with the ball where he looks like he's just splashing through puddles, just stomping every single time, very much like a vertical runner to the point where, I guarantee you, as high school football coach, or definitely Greg Shiano at one point is like, why are you running so scared out? Why why are you so upright? Get your head down. Hit somebody. But it's fun to watch them play. And the Chiefs are for real. For real. We can definitely say that their defense is good enough to keep them close in any sort of game. And then you have Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback. They're almost not fair.

What's going to happen is the Chiefs defense is so good this year that they are going to keep them at the top of the AFC for just long enough for Patrick Mahomes to figure it out with his new receivers. That's what's going to happen. We're going to get to late December and it's going to be like, OOH, Rashee Rice and Patrick Mahomes are figuring it out together. OOH Kaderius Tony isn't the worst player in the world. Story, if we could predict a story. Aaron Andrews sitting down with Patrick Mahomes late December being like, how did you guys all get on the same page?

You know, it always is going to.

Be like, fuck, they're doing it again.

It's always video.

You know, I just had over my house. We just played video games, something like that. I have a question. That was the Tua and who was it on the third and ten? Was that Waddle or was that Tyreek?

I'm not sure who that was with a pass that went short.

That was just miscommunication, right? That wasn't Tua trying to throw as hard as he can.

I don't think that was possibly Tua trying to hit him in.

Good, good, good.

I'm going to apologize for Tua.

I'm going to make an excuse.

Yeah, it was an option route and say that he was not trying to lead him on that pass because if he did, Tommy DeVito would have thrown that ball better.

It was the Tebow like pass, you know, the famous one in the wind in a Broncos practice.

It was a bad pass.

So, yeah, the Tua MVP obviously takes a ding, probably had taken a ding a couple weeks ago against the Eagles. But the Dolphins, they just have to beat a good team. They have to. And until that happens, I don't think it's unfair to be, yeah, they're a decent team, but a Super Bowl contender? I don't think so. And now who do they got? Who's their next you know what have.

A lot of tests home against the Raiders after the buy.

Yeah, they might fraud themselves into actually becoming like a little bit of an angry team because everyone now is going to be saying that they're frauds. They got a lot of bulletin boards to look at, like, if you're the don't, now is not the time where you want to listen to what the media is saying about you after loss. You actually should, though, because every morning show in America is going to be like, they're frauds. They're fraudulent. They can't beat a good team. And those people saying that are right, by the way. But the only way you can get yourself out of this fraud hole is by listening to it and getting pissed off enough at it that you commit yourself to no longer being a fraud.

And look, I actually want to spin it positively for the Dolphins because I am a member of. And there's no reason for like there's no ill will I have against the Dolphins. I would like them to be really good team that can beat other really good teams because I think the league would be more fun for it. So let's do positives that have going forward. I think your defense is getting better, healthier. A chain will come back eventually.

You're going to get faster.

You're going to get faster. Your schedule is not that tough. So the idea that this is maybe going to slip like it did last year, which was more because of injury with tatua, I don't think that's going to I can confidently say the Dolphins are going to be in the playoffs. I'm not worried that much. But yeah, just figure out a way to beat a really good team. Mike McDaniels go. Go into your spreadsheets. Cook something up.

Hit that vape.

Figure it out.

Try a new blend.

So I have one question coming out of this game. Is Mike McDaniels too cute?

He does get a little cute with some hiding behind some other coaches trying to avoid the cameras, the press conference, the sunglasses.

Does Mike McDaniels maybe need to get like a neck tat, maybe a teardrop tat and be like, I'm going to be a hardcore coach and not the cute coach that everyone's fallen in love with. Because if you can't beat the good teams, the too cute thing does it starts.

He does need to bring back the double hoop earrings. That would be a good start, doesn't he? Like, that was a good look for him when he was a ball boy in Denver. Like you don't fuck with that guy.

Just do something. Mike McDaniel to not be as cute as you have been because you're so fucking cute. I want to put you in my back pocket. You're so cute.

Mike McDaniel he goes from looking like a weed smoker to a weed dealer if he puts the earrings back in.

Maybe gets like a white Jetta.

Yeah, the white Jetta is not that fearsome.

Well, that's like a high school. Like you got enough money dealing weed that you can lease a white Jetta.

Maybe like, a Honda Civic si with, like, manual. Put some bucket seats, some racing seats in there. Put a huge fucking spoiler on the back of it.

Yeah, I don't know. Just something maybe mike McDaniel just needs to beat someone up.

So I actually think that they might be in a better place if they had lost last week to the Patriots, if they weren't a three game losing streak. Because Mike McDaniel has said when I got to the NFL as a head coach, I couldn't wait for my first three game losing streak because that's when you know that you have to get the guys together. He had it last year. He rallied them together. This is like win loss, win loss. Their last four, if you had a losing streak, then you circle the wagon.

So Mike McDaniel has not started coaching yet.

Not yet.

Not till he loses three in a row.

Yeah.

And I'm looking at the schedule right now. They're not going to lose. Well, no, they might. They might lose to the Cowboys, Ravens and Bills to close out the season.

And the jets. I still think the jets are going to be a tough game for them on Black Friday.

Well, that would be great if they lost New York, if they lost to the jets, the Cowboys and the Ravens s, then they circle the wagons, play the Bills.

Yeah.

Week 17 or 18, I guess.

Snowballs.

Snowballs.

Cold.

Well, no, that's at home.

Yeah.

Rainy Miami.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

Not cold at all.

Humid.

Not cold at all. Okay. Let's play a fun game before we get to the next game called where is the next Chiefs loss going to happen and how much will people freak out about it? Because I think we're in agreement that the Chiefs and we'll get to the Ravens, because the Ravens have been playing incredible football, but the Chiefs are the best team in the AFC, and what they basically do is they'll just find a couple losses here and there where everyone can be like, what's wrong with the Chiefs? We did it last week. We actually were pretty good. Where we're like, Nothing's wrong with the Chiefs. They're fine. So what's the next Chiefs loss that people will be like, oh, no, are the Chiefs in trouble?

I think they might lose to the Bills in Buffalo December 10.

Okay.

That's going to be like the Bills Super Bowl. That's going to be a must win for the Bills at that point.

Okay.

So they're going to bring their best game. I don't know. Chiefs fans out there will get very pissed off to hear that because they fucking hate the Buffalo Bills, and they get disgusted when anybody mentions the Bills in the same breath as the Chiefs. But that's going to be a very hard game to play.

I could see them losing to the packers in a fluky game.

No. Yeah.

Just in a weird in Lambeau. Maybe it's cold, something stupid happens. Patrick Holmes gets COVID again.

Maybe the Raiders, if the Raiders get another interim head coach yeah.

I don't know. You know what's going to happen? The Chiefs will lose one more inexplicable type game, and everyone will say, oh, no, the Chiefs have some problems. Can the Chiefs be had?

No.

The Chiefs will probably win the Super Bowl.

So Andy Reid did have the Quote of the Week, though, and this was before the game, and the German press was just talking about football, what it means to America, what it means to him, what he's been through. Andy said, if we could just figure out how to get all the countries to play football, we wouldn't have war.

Yeah.

Which makes sense. Just like facts. Solve this on the field. Step out on the gridiron like a man. Instead of lobbing missiles at people, like, let's just go out there. Let's just play some ball.

This is like the old remember when.

We learned it McDonald's.

Yeah.

The McDonald's. It's not true.

Yeah. No two countries that have McDonald's have ever fought a war against each other.

That was the greatest lie that we learned as kids.

No. And it does not make sense. It's factually inaccurate. Although the McDonald's in Iraq, they were actually called I think they were like McDonald or something like that. They were like fake McDonald's. But you couldn't even say that about football, american football either, because countries that have American football have actually fought a war against each other.

Right. America, right.

In the 18 hundreds.

Right.

It was kind of a big deal.

Yes.

But I kind of agree with Andy. I don't necessarily agree that it would solve world peace, but it would make for some great rivalry games.

I would say it would solve world peace for 18 Sundays a year. That's things you can't fight a war on an NFL Sunday.

It's like saying, yeah, football is the great peacemaker. You never see Raiders fans fighting its Chiefs fans.

Yeah, right.

Because we're all here to watch football.

No one's ever seen an Eagles fan or a Chargers fan.

If anything, it would start more wars, I think.

Yeah, but they would just be fought with, like, bottles. Bottles, flares and dudes that don't have the higher ground that think that they can just punch up against, like, 16 of the team.

They're playing against just guys wearing throwback jerseys from, like, the year 1975 that they bought online from, like, an illegal sweatshop in China.

Ditch the camouflage and grab your finest pair of jean shorts. We're enlisting in the army.

Can you imagine if the United States military had dudes wearing the Ravens camo shorts just running uphills, charging, and fighting?

Never lose.

Wouldn't fuck with them.

Never lose. Never lose. All right, so, yeah, the Dolphins are frauds.

They're frauds.

Chiefs are very what it is.

Chiefs are still very yeah.

Yeah.

Chiefs are very I wish I really wish that the Chiefs had just gone on Tuesday, because I would have won a lot money. A lot more money, and my day would have started off in a lot better place.

I would not have bet on the Dolphins at all if there wasn't such a huge difference of travel. But I guess we learned that once we find something and we latch onto it, we'll just get obsessed with that thing until we're proven wrong.

The amount of times I think I've figured it out, it's incredible.

I still think it was the right bet.

Yeah.

No, but yeah.

Okay.

Next up, maybe the best team in football right now. Ravens 37, seahawks, three. This was an ass kicking. That was a biblical ass kicking. It was not even, like, 37 three.

Yes.

You obviously see that score and you're like, ass kicking, but then you look at the numbers, and it was insane. The Ravens had 29 1st downs to the Seahawks six. The Ravens had 515 yards to the Seahawks 151. The Ravens had 298 rushing yards. So the Ravens almost had double the amount of just rushing yards than the Seahawks total yards. It was never close. It was an ass kicking through and through and even kind of the reverse of what we were talking about with the Dolphins. The Ravens have now played three teams who are above 501 of them was the Browns when I think Deshaun was out. Is that right? I believe or maybe he got injured in that game.

Yeah, I forget if you played that or not.

So the scores of the Ravens games against teams over 528 to three against Cleveland, 38 to six, against Detroit, 37 to three against Seattle yeah.

Two teams that are leading the divisions, or were leading their divisions, seahawks and Lions combined score of 75 to nine against those two teams. The Ravens had four sacks today. That leads the league.

They also had pressure on 54.5% of the dropbacks.

That's crazy.

It's insane.

Their defense back, Gino Stone, he got his 6th interception of the year.

Gino to gino. That probably first time ever.

Probably. I would imagine that's the first time. Or that he's still leading the league right now and they got another weapon at running back.

Yeah.

So it seems like whoever the Ravens put in at running back is going to be great. Keaton Mitchell was the guy today from ECU. From ECU. He's a pirate. He had nine carries, 138 yards. That's a 15.3 average per carry. He had a touchdown. Fun fact about Keaton Mitchell. He's from ECU, undrafted.

Right.

He was projected to go, like, middle of the draft. He fell out for some reason. I think he was like a second team All American in college. So he was undrafted Ravens free agent. His dad was also an undrafted free agent. Signed by who? The Baltimore Ravens.

That would have been funny if you were like the San Diego charts.

Yeah.

He blocked a kick in the playoffs against the Titans and returned it for a touchdown. That was the winning score as the Ravens went on to win the Super Bowl.

Wow.

His son first one.

Yeah.

So that makes you feel very old that his son now is an undrafted free agent. That's lighting up the Seahawks in the NFL.

And it just is crazy. The Ravens have figured out their running game because that was a lot of the talk once Dobbins went down. It's like, okay, they still probably need someone here because they do like to run the football. And now they get this kid, Keaton Mitchell, out of nowhere, who's like the perfect complimentary piece to Gus Edwards, who is clearly the goal. Line back and yeah, the Ravens, I mean, their defense I didn't know hand up. I'm just going to say it. I thought kyle Van? Noy, retired. Oh, you think he I think he signed recently with the Ravens.

I knew that he was around at.

Least for a few weeks, but I don't think he started the season with the Ravens.

Calvin noying. We'll look him up.

He had sacks on back to back plays.

How old do you think Calvin Noy is?

He's young.

He's only 32.

That's crazy.

I did not know that.

Yeah.

It's very van knowing. Let's see, 2020. Yeah, he's played seven games.

Okay, so he did play the whole season. So maybe I did know that. Either way. I was like, Wait, Calvin. Noy's on the ravens. Because I thought he was where was he last year? Was he on the lions? No. Was he back on the Patriots?

He was on the chargers.

Chargers. That's right. Chargers. That's where I got it. He got lost in my mind when we went to the Chargers.

You know what it is about Kyle Van Noy? I think he streams so much that you think he's retired, that you're like, oh, this guy's not playing anymore. Yeah, he tweets a lot. He's too online to be playing still. But no, he's playing a full schedule. I would just like to admit right now, the Baltimore Ravens, I think they are the best team in the NFL. I think the Ravens, to my ears.

I think they're my Super Bowl picks.

I think the Ravens are the most complete team.

He did sign in late September a.

Little vindication didn't start the season.

Yeah, he didn't start the season, but.

The way that the Ravens play against good are I think they're the best team in the league.

They still have to figure out, like, it doesn't feel like their offense is fully clicking. Like Lamar, he was good today, but he wasn't, like, pretty good. No, I know. He didn't throw any touchdown pass.

The stats sheet doesn't really tell how good Lamar was today because got a little dinged up. He was 21 for 26. That's pretty good.

No, he was good. I'm just saying.

Deep that much?

Yeah, it wasn't like what was it? Oh, it wasn't the game against the Seahawk or the Lions.

When a quarterback throws for 80 yards to their tight end and he's their number one receiver, then you lose track of how good he was because he also completed nine passes to Mark Andrews.

Listen, I've been on the Ravens since before the season started. I have him 18 to one. I thought the Ravens have everything. Their defense is nasty.

Yeah, the Ravens are extremely good. Seahawks. I don't know what we can take away from this because we saw the Lions get their ass kicked by the Ravens, and it turns out the Lions are still pretty good. So I don't know that I'm ready to bury the Seahawks yet. But you are going to bury them.

I'm not going to bury the Seahawks. I'm done with Gino. Yeah, I've had enough. Gino I think I'm good with. Like, I know that people will tell me I'm wrong because the tape says something different. I just feel like Gino has last year, he had a very good year and now he's kind of gone back to Gino, which is okay, but I never really feel a ton of trust in Gino. I'm never like, man, Gino's going to really go out there and win this game.

He might bounce back. Gino always bounces back.

You're writing him off. I am writing you're writing him off. He ain't right of I'm good with it. I think he's okay. I'm not saying he's don't I will never feel trust in Gino to be like, you can go win this big, big game. Right. I agree with that.

But I'm not ready to bury them. I still think that they know their.

Team is talented in the NFC.

They're probably going to make the playoffs.

Yeah.

And this is a year where I think a lot of people were writing.

The Seahawks off like, oh, they're going.

To roll with Gino. OK, we'll see how that far that gets you. I think that this is they're a perfectly fine team.

I think it really comes down to like Gino doesn't whenever there's a lot of pressure and yeah, obviously you can say this for every quarterback, but whenever there's a lot of pressure, it just feels like Gino doesn't have any solutions. You know what mean? Like, it doesn't feel like it's just a problem that there is no way out of.

And at the end of the day, he's always going to be the guy that got his jaw broke by his.

Maybe I'm maybe I'm being mean. I do think the Seahawks are a very talented team and I am not going to just say one game means that you suck all of a sudden. But yeah, I think I'm just good with gino. I think I'm good with gino. People telling me that Gino is like, somehow way different than he was.

I think Gino is like a 20 to 15 caliber NFL quarterback.

I think he's just the exact Gino where it's like, yeah, he's got a lot of lot better players around him now and there's games where he can look great, but at the end of the day, would you trust your life with Gino Smith?

I would not trust my life.

I would not trust my life with Gino Smith.

I would trust it with Lamar. I would trust it with on certain occasions. Yeah. Until you get to the playoffs and a team tries to do some weird scheme, like, was it the Chargers? Was it Anthony Lin? What quarterback that put like, nine defensive backs out there?

Yeah.

What quarterbacks would you trust your life with? I think it's Patrick Mahomes. It might be jalen hurts.

I think Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow.

I think that might be life.

Yeah.

You put your life on the line.

For would I would with those three guys, for sure.

I think those are the three guys that I would only yeah, not dak. Definitely not.

I just want to say not dak. For the record.

Kirk Cousins before he got hurt.

Yeah.

As weird as it sounds, maybe Josh Dobbs in relief. I don't know.

It's a very short list, but yeah, no, Gino's not that list.

I'm wondering if what Seahawks fans will say about that, because again, I do think they're a good just I think I'm just done with Gino. I think I'm just good with it. I'm like, he's good at times, but I don't want to be told that Gino is something totally different than what he has always been.

I might trust CJ. Stroud in my life.

It's getting there. It's getting closer. It's getting closer.

Do you think that Jim Harbaugh and John Harbaugh share any sort of, like, advanced scouting tips with each other? Because this looked like a game where the Ravens had all their signals.

That's true. Well, Connor Stallions is he's a pretty good job right now.

He resigned. He did not get fired. He resigned or die guy. And also, Jim Harbaugh had no advanced knowledge of what Connor Stallions was doing behind the scenes.

I believe that Jim Harbaugh shouldn't be punished whatsoever when it goes to the NFL.

I do love Connor stallions, though. I love the fact that he's like, you know what? I don't want to be a distraction to the team. I didn't do anything. They didn't ask me to do anything. I'm out, like, the best fall guy.

You could ever, ever okay, next game, vikings, Falcons, Josh Dobbs. What a fucking performance. Josh Dobbs. I have to apologize because when Josh Dobbs came in, I was like, Josh Dobbs isn't good. The Cardinals his last month with the Cardinals was not looking great. Josh Dobbs came in safety strip sack. And then he was like, wait, I'm Josh Dobbs and I'm going to win this game. And played out of his mind after.

Yeah.

And the story coming out of it afterwards that Josh Dobb. So Kevin Seaford from ESPN tweeted that Josh Dobbs didn't take a single rep with offense in practice this week. No snaps from his center. Garrett Bradbury had never thrown passes to any of the guys on the team and didn't know most of their names and said afterward, that's for next week. And when Jaren Hall got concussed, they huddled really quick and they went over the five main cadences, and that was it. And then Josh Dobbs came out and absolutely, like, after that bumpy start torched, the Falcons made big play after big play, finished with 158 yards, two touchdowns, 66 yards rushing, and another touchdown. That was awesome. That was an awesome game. To watch Josh Dobbs. That was awesome. Maybe he should just jump from team to team.

I would love that. Every team should be so lucky to root for one week of Josh Dobbs. Exactly one week of them.

It was crazy.

And then probably nothing more than that. Jordan Addison said that Josh Dobbs didn't know the plays because obviously he had only been there for a couple days, and so he had to ask. Josh Dobbs was asking the receivers in the huddle, like, what are you doing on that side of the field so that I know? And they would tell him what he was doing. He took, like, two snaps on the sideline from the center. Kevin O'Connell was translating calls and mapping out the plays in the middle of the huddle while the play clock was going.

It's crazy.

Josh Dobbs said that this was like learning French and suddenly taking a Spanish test. It's a completely different language. And Dobbs says that now he has proved that he should be a starter in the NFL. I don't know if like, full time starter, but I think, like, spot starter mean.

We did watch you for two months with the card.

I think what we've learned about Josh Dobbs is he is the best guy that you could ever have to come on the field in the middle of a game or maybe to do, like, one start for your team.

He also just seems like the best guy, period.

Great guy.

Yeah.

And he's an astronaut, basically.

He's an astronaut, basically. That fourth and seven. So Josh dobbs stunk at the start. First two series played great after that. And then the game goes back and forth. The Falcons score late. Josh Dobbs gets the ball with two minutes, has to go 75 yards, including a fourth and seven with 40 seconds left that he ripped off. He basically shrugged off a defender who was at his feet and then ran for 22 yards in a first down. Gets the game winning touchdown with like, 20 seconds left. It was awesome. That was prime witching hour. Just great. Fun to watch.

Are we going to have the conversation, like, how come you can't get a Josh Dobbs jersey in the Minnesota Vikings team store? Yeah, it should be there.

It's a good question.

And, like, looking back on it, the Cardinals were probably trying to tell us something. Like, we don't want to rip off our fans selling his jersey because we're probably going to ship them away in a couple of weeks.

It's also just very funny to think of, like, Josh Dobbs on the plane ride home from Atlanta and being like, man, that was a sick touchdown pass. What's your name again? Brandon.

I want to hear the Madden stories about him. I want to hear how he has to learn his teammates names by playing Madden. That'd be sick. We also had well, he's the only player to go two games for two different teams back to back with three touchdowns in each.

Yeah.

Pretty impressive. Arthur Smith is I think we can now say that Bijean Robinson is in his doghouse firmly. He fumbled. And then Arthur Smith was that's why that's why I don't use you. That's why I don't use you. It's like our tired meme is not paying running backs on their second contract. And then the wired meme is Arthur Smith not giving his running back enough carries to begin with to let them even deserve a second big.

It's, um it's weird seeing Bijean. He just is never in the red zone. Like, what'd you say? Six carries in the second half? Yeah, he had six carries in the second half. Arthur Smith. We're fans of Arthur Smith. We're friends with Arthur Smith. His seat is getting a little warm because this is a game you should have won. When Jaren Hall gets concussed in the first quarter and Josh Dobbs, who doesn't know his teammates names, comes in, you should win that game. And on top of that, Taylor, Heinecke unfortunately, we're big. Taylor heineken guys. But he kind of had a Desmond Ritter type game where he did some nice things. And then he also had that interception. That was a terrible interception in the third quarter that gave the Vikings a ton of life. So it's like the Falcons feel like they're just moving in, like they're treading water right now.

I'm not going to put this on the offense. I'm not going to put on Taylor Heinecke. The defense oh. Had some big problems today. And I thought that the defense was good going into this game. I thought the Falcons had like a I'll say this a stout defense.

You can't game plan for Josh Dobbs.

You can't there's no doing it.

Yeah.

There's no tape on him with those receivers.

It was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy to just it felt like I was watching a big college football game where the quarterback is you know, when you watch we'll talk about on Wednesday when you watch a college football game and the quarterback's just better than so, like, if he needs to run for a first down, if he needs to throw for like, he just big play after big play. That's what it felt like watching Josh Dobbs against the Falcons defense.

Yeah.

It was honestly very fun.

Yeah.

Shout out Josh Dobbs.

Also, here's a fun fact. If the playoffs started today, the Minnesota Vikings would be the 7th seed. Crazy.

So now Jordan Addison should keep playing.

Keep playing.

Yeah, keep playing.

We're back on.

Okay.

Don't sit out the rest of the year.

One and four to five. And they're one and a half games back from the Lions. And they have both their games against the Lions coming up. So, like, out of nowhere, the Vikings with Kirk Cousins playing great football and then getting hurt and being out for the year and now Josh Dobbs. They still have Nick Mullens coming back as like, you got to ride Josh Dobbs?

Oh, yeah.

You know, but I'm just saying, like Jaren Hall, I'm saying more they have enough quarterbacks that more of them can get injured because it feels like the Vikings have the injury bug to anyone whose name we know.

Their emergency quarterback today was Cam Acres.

Yeah.

Cam Acres tours Achilles.

Yeah.

So, yeah, there's something going on up there.

It's the drummer from Spinal Tap.

Yeah.

So if you're a Vikings fan, you have to do that. We need to fire our strength and conditioning coach because we're getting all these Achilles injuries at the quarterback position.

Yeah.

And didn't KJ Osborne get knocked out of the game, too?

Yeah, that was bad.

Which is like, Josh Dobbs did this without Justin Jefferson and KJ Osborne. So you'd think the Vikings are going to get a little healthier and, I mean, what if the Vikings make the playoffs? My pinky.

They could. They could very easily make the playoffs. Arthur Smith, just a little word of advice here. You still have another thing that you can do to try to get yourself off the hot seat, and that's just have one game where you just load up Bijean and Kyle Pitts and Drake London for a fuckload of yards and.

Points, and whatever happens, you win.

Then you can say, like, oh, well, they figured something out on offense. Now their playmakers are getting involved just.

Like, force feed them or Bijean fumbles, like, three times. Everyone's like, oh, the coach is smarter than us.

Yep.

And then everyone blames the GM for using the draft pick on a running back.

And again, we're not calling for Arthur Smith's job. We like Arthur Smith. I'm saying that it's clear that Falcons fans are people are getting a little antsy, I think, because the NFC South is very winnable. And again, you went up against a guy who just met his teammates. You should win that game.

Yeah.

Should win that game.

Yeah.

I mean, the Falcons are in just as good a position to make the playoffs as the Vikings are, though.

Yeah. I don't know. Someone has to get that 7th seed.

Yeah, it's going to be someone, but.

Actually they aren't because the Vikings are a game ahead. And they have the tiebreaker.

They got the tiebreaker. But it's definitely not said and done. Like, the Falcons could very easily make the playoffs.

Yes. Okay, next game, texans, $39.37. Holy shit. CJ stroud. What a game. He is incredible. He had 470 yards, five touchdowns. He led them on a game winning drive with 40 seconds left. Did they need a touchdown? Yeah, they needed a touchdown. The score of this game, which we'll get to the score of Gammy in a minute, but the score of this game got all screwed up because Kymi Fairburn hurt himself in the first half. So the Texans spent the second half, scoring touchdowns and not getting two point conversions. And then finally they got to a point where they're like, we should probably kick a field goal. And they got Dari Agun Bowale, who's a Badger, came out running back first running back to kick a field goal in, like, 40 years. Nailed it. And so the game was, like, weird to whenever a kicker gets injured, it's so much fun.

Oh, I love it. The kickoffs.

Yeah.

Everything about it, everything becomes weird. So this game got very weird. But CJ. Stroud was out of this world. Good.

He was so good. We're very rarely right about things on this show, but standing up and standing by for the Stroud boys was a great call on our part. I think we should be recognized for that.

We'll get to Bryce Young, but I don't remember a one two pick being decided this quickly. No, I really don't. I can't think of one either. I thought Bryce Young would struggle this year and maybe get better, and I guess there's time for that. But CJ. Stroud looks CJ. Stroud is a top ten quarterback, and.

There are some people, I think Edward Tweeted out like this should put all the naysayers to bed. Those who said that the Texans screwed up the first round of the draft, people were never mad at the Texans for taking CJ. Stroud to begin with. He was, like, very clearly the number two quarterback in that draft. They were mad because then they moved up again and they took the defense.

Yeah.

Will Anderson.

And that was a little bit questionable for some people, but no.

CJ.

Stroud is awesome. Those are both rookie records that you mentioned. 470 yards. That's number one all time for rookies and five touchdowns. That ties a rookie record.

It's also the only rookie in NFL history. NFL history. The only rookie in NFL history to have a game where they go for over 400 yards, four plus TDs, no interceptions. It's pretty good. That's pretty good.

He's a gunslinger now because he's not.

Afraid to throw picks. I wanted to say I think we touched on this on Friday, how the Texans love to run the ball on first down. They do it more than any other team. Thankfully, they realize the Bucks rush defense actually is good. They only ran the ball 17 times today. Credit to the Texans for being like, hey, CJ. Stroud's really goddamn good. Let's let him win this game.

What's?

Because the Bucks, I think they're like, two or three in the NFL in terms of how much they blitz.

Yeah.

So they're able to stop the run when they and Vita Vey is also a big key to that, too. But CJ. Stroud is awesome against the blitz. It turns out. We told you this.

He's awesome all the time.

He's awesome all the time.

He was awesome in college. It shouldn't be a surprise.

You know what ohio State quarterbacks are actually great in the great.

They're great. They're next up.

Yeah, that's all crew right there.

Kyle McCord, everybody.

The Bucks on the other side of it. I kind of like it when teams like the Bucks and the Rams, they get their Super Bowl and then they just completely fall apart.

They hold on.

Yeah, you hold on to it. Like, you rent a Super Bowl. You go all out, you recognize where your window is, and you say, you know what? Fuck it. We're going to give our fans one chance to really do something, and then we're just going to be crummy for the next five years afterwards. Right, because if you have Super Bowl winning players, you hold on to some of them too long because you're like, these guys won a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

But you forget about the fact that there's some other very key players that are now no longer with the team, and you can't expect Baker Mayfield to do with the same roster what Tom Brady did.

The Bucks past defense was atrocious. Yeah, they got absolutely torched. But I like it.

It's good for us long suffering fan bases to see, like, okay, if you go all in on your window, you're just going to come back to us. Just come on back and be shitty with us.

And there's no regrets. Flags fly forever. But yeah, it's true. Like, the Bucks were like, hey, we won a Super Bowl. Now we're getting a little older. Let's just plug and play a couple of these key positions and hope it works out.

Because you have to think, some of your older players that were on that Super Bowl, they're going to get into the Ring of Honor one day. They're going to be invited back for every ceremony. It's like, oh, members of the Super Bowl winning bucks. So you can't cut them the year after. You don't want to leave a bad taste in the mouth. This is a relationship that the front office knows, like, oh, we're going to have to see you once a year for the next 20 years. So I guess if it's between you and a second year guy that's on the bubble, we're just going to get rid of him.

And it goes even down to just being like, oh, yeah, Tod Bowles would be our coach. Yeah, he stinks.

0% 0%. He goes for it on toss up situation.

And Stephen Shea, our friend, who's a diehard Bucks fan, who's slowly coming to grips with the Bucks stink because they've now lost four straight. They started the season three and one. He rightfully was very angry at Tod Bowles because Tod Bowles was like 40 seconds left. They fumbled the ball.

Todd Bowles used they recovered the fumble.

They recovered the fumble. Todd Bowles used a timeout his last time out and then took a shot at the end zone on the next play, scored a touchdown, but left the Texans with 40 seconds left to be enough time, too much time for CJ strap.

I think it went between, like, 55 seconds down to 40 seconds after the touchdown. Some situation where it was about a 15 2nd swing and in that part of the game yeah. You don't need to call a timeout. You've got four shots at the end zone. You're going to take right.

Don't call a timeout, then take a shot at the end zone yeah. And wait to maybe run the ball and then take a shot at the end.

And they could have tried to kick a field goal later. You want that timeout in case you need to in case you get tackled in bounds, you take a sack. You have to kick a field goal. Call time out. Get your guys out on the field. Tod Bowles is a bird brain.

Tod Bowles is a bad coach.

Nice guy.

Poor Steven Shea. He rides at the Bucks so hard. He even said when the Bucks had 5 seconds left, 70 yards from the end zone and they started the lateral play, he's like, oh, I like how this is looking. Really, Steven? The left guard just coughed up the football backwards ten yards down the line of scrimmage.

It was hopeless.

It was hopeless. But CJ Stroud, man, he's the real deal. If you're a Texans fan, you really just went through hell and escaped pretty quickly. Yeah. The deshaun thing was hell.

And you had Mills mafia.

Yeah. And now you have all the hope.

In the world and you got draft picks coming up next year and you.

Have the coach Texans. You might want to buy all the stock in Texans because if you're a Texans fan, the hope meter is completely full and it's like, this is now. Hey, if you could somehow sneak into the playoffs, you don't even have to make the playoffs this year.

Yeah.

The real life hack, Tank Dell is awesome.

The life hack isn't necessarily drafting well. It's hoping the people in front of you draft really poorly right. And that you're just given a gift.

Right.

And so you got a gift.

You get a Panthers or a Bears in front of you.

Enjoy it. Enjoy this gift.

Yeah. All right. Jake, you got a scorigami.

I did.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Appreciate it. I did a little reassessment of my own protocols. We're getting to that part of the season where I'm, like, low on sleep, maybe a little irritable from time to time. I'm not going to yuck your yum. I'm going to let you enjoy scoragamis. I'm going to put aside the fact that you don't bet on any of the games or even really root for anything except weird scores to happen and just be like, congratulations.

Thank you. Yeah.

I root for all your stuff.

Yeah.

I appreciate that.

Handshakes.

Yeah.

How much of Big get you changing your tune on? This is the fact that Jake wasn't around us to cheer on the score.

100% if in the middle of the witching hour. No. And I was sweating out bets. That's what Jake really about. Jake and Jake said, hey, can someone take a picture of me in front of the TV while I'm, like, dying? With every bet? I would have 100% fuck score.

After last week's interaction, I would have, like, gone to the PMT studio and.

Taken a picture, but I realized I was too hard.

Jake, we want you to be you.

I want you to be you.

And also realize that it's not a you problem that he's upset with you about. Scoragamis it's not your problem when he's sweating out a bet, when he's losing, in all likelihood, like, losing a bet coming down to the end, and then he sees somebody else, it doesn't matter.

What they're happy about. Well, no, if someone's happy about their other bet, I'm fine with that.

Another bet.

Yeah.

But if it's you getting your picture taken in front of numbers, right, then he's going to be like, well, my.

Numbers numbers do anything.

My numbers are bad. Why are your numbers good?

And your numbers didn't win you anything, but it did win you something happiness. And that's what I realized. So I apologize.

I appreciate the change of perspective.

I do think there's too many of them. I'll stay with that.

You can have that.

Way too many of them.

This was a good score.

It was.

Because I don't like it when they're numbers that you think would have happened before, and then you get excited about, like, a 20 to eleven scoregami or something when it's a game where it's, what, 37 39?

Yeah.

39. 37. Texans. When you see that score, it's like, those are some funky ass numbers. And the fact that it happened, there.

Was no alert for this.

Well, no, this one was all at the end.

This one was cool because it was directly related to Fairbaron getting hurt.

Right.

And then them kneeling the two point conversion. Because they had to. Because they had to, and they didn't want to give up, like, a pick or any kind of weird play happening. So, yeah. This scorgami I actually kind of enjoyed. Thanks. It also was because you weren't taking the picture in front of me, but I did enjoy it. I did enjoy it.

Dari Ugun Bowale the Badger that came on kicked a field goal. I think it was a 29 yarder bad look for kickers because anyone can step in and do their job. That's bad, but very cool to watch, especially watching the reactions from the coaches on the sideline who are just, like, so pumped to see him make a field goal. It also shows that on kickoffs, if you have a guy like, who's the guy on the Chiefs? Is it Reed, their safety, who's got a fucking cannon on his leg? If you have. A guy that can kick the ball deep and kick it relatively straight, having another dude out there that can make a tackle is such a big advantage to you.

Such a big advantage.

It lets you cover the kick so much better. Otherwise, you're essentially running like, a ten on eleven wildcat return yes. Where they've got the numbers on you. So if you got a guy that can kick it remotely deep and he also happens to be a defensive player, that's a good thing.

Yeah.

Jake just wondering how many scorgamis are left so I can prepare myself in this new world. Well, no, but let's say that under.

50S, like, each side has under 50.

Under 50s. There's, like, 100, but most of them are in the 40s. Under 30. There's, like, ten realistic ones.

Okay.

With the winning team. Under 30.

How pumped were you for this one?

It was great because it came out of nowhere.

Yeah.

And you were by a TV.

Yeah.

I had just gotten home for the witching hour.

Thank God.

Is that why you got home? Just in case?

Yeah, just in case.

Because if you had missed the picture, I would have counted it and you.

Would have loved that.

No, I'm fine with you taking a picture somewhere else.

Yeah.

I want you to be happy. I did feel like I was being a little bit hard, and look, people should find enjoyment however they want to be. The guy being like, you shouldn't enjoy that. That's stupid. That's lame. I was being lame. I was being a lame ass grumpy pants.

It's all right.

But I've changed. So in the future, you can do it.

What's the protocol?

You can do it.

I won't be annoying about it.

No, you can do it.

Here's the do.

I don't think you're trying to be annoying.

You can do anything.

You can do it.

You can do anything you want. If it makes you happy.

Do. Also, if it makes me happy to be like, Fuck you, Jake. I will say it in the moment, but you can do it.

I know it's not personal.

Yeah.

It never was personal.

Never.

It's more the scoregamis thing. There's been too many.

It's just like my time with is.

This the most in a year? When you did downagami the other day. We have too many, Tommy.

I'll admit it. I'll admit it.

Jake this one's got to be a record person. 23. Jake was like, Is there such thing as downagami? There was also a first and one. Now you got it in my head, which I don't hate. It's very jake and that's okay.

There's just unlimited Agamis if you translate it to any part of I know.

But it was a reach.

When he said downagami, I was like, I have to stop this now, otherwise we're going to gammy everything. But, Jake, you be you. I apologize.

I will continue being myself.

Yes.

I appreciate the support.

Do you think there's too many, though?

There's been a lot.

We're on a roll.

There's been a lot.

You know what it is? You're on pace for gammy.

Oh. What's the most in a year?

I don't know.

I'll have to do the research.

Do the research. All right. This is actually something I would like to know.

Yeah.

I'm interested in this. How many? It had to be, like, maybe in the last 20 years, because obviously year.

One of the NFL Unlimited.

Oh, that's it. Yeah.

Jake would have been standing in front of every TV, first season of the NFL, and we only would have had one TV.

Yeah.

We only had one game.

Keep in mind, we also have 16 more regular season games and, like, two or three more postseason games.

That's true. More football, more gummies.

Exactly.

Yeah.

I'm happy for you.

Thank you. Yeah.

Okay, so this game ruled. This is my game of the early slate.

It was awesome.

We had a great witching hour.

Listen, the football was great today. We've had some weeks where it's like, you get one or two good games and the rest are just shit. There was action happening everywhere.

And it was funny because we went into this weekend being like, chiefs, Dolphins, Seahawks, Ravens. These are the big games, and it's where you don't expect it.

I don't know if you guys had.

Red Zone on here, but watching at home, Scott Hansen, they had a side by side of Baker's fourth in game, and Dobbs's fourth in game. They both scrambled and ran for it at the same exact time on red Zone.

Oh, that's wild.

Yeah.

We had all the games on.

Right?

I figured.

But I don't know if there was a red zone box, but it was so sick.

Yeah.

That is sick. Okay, should we take a break? And then we get to the other four games. Which weren't as good. No, they weren't as good.

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Check it out. Okay, the big one. Commanders and patriots. Hank, sit up. Sit up. Henry, adjust your posture. Hank, adjust your posture.

Look professional.

I'll just be moderator here. I'll let you guys do whatever you want. The commanders 20. The Patriots, 17. Sam Howell looked awesome. PFT except for that one touchdown. Well, it was a touchdown.

He threw it into the end zone. Yes. Hank, thank you for calling on me. I had a question for you. Trivia question. Yes. What do you think Sam Howell is record wise against Super Bowl winning coaches?

I'm going to guess he is four.

And he's three and he beat Sean Payton.

That was dirty what you just did.

He beat Sean Payton, he beat our good friend Bill Belichick. And he beat Mike McCarthy. So three and o. Sam Howe, he's like a little mini tua back there.

Stud.

He is a stud. Sam Howell is firmly the guy. He's my guy. He's our guy. He is the guy in DC. I actually feel very good about the future of this team right now. And it might be like week to week. I can get down on them sometimes. But the last two games that Sam Howell has played, I think they have the most passing yards in the NFL over two game span. Sam Howell is without a doubt the guy. Very happy with him.

Top 15 quarterback.

Top 15 quarterback in the NFL. I would say top twelve.

Top twelve quarterback.

And guess where he is? That's like when Ravell says, I own upwards of nine pieces of merchandise. I think he is a top twelve quarterback in the NFL. I am very excited about the future of this team. In fact, I'm now talking myself back into playoffs because someone's got to get that seven spot. And Max, you better watch out if you get the two seed and the Commanders get the seven seed. You don't want to play us again, Max?

No.

You don't want to do it.

Don't want to do it. But Hank, I'll let you have the floor because I know you watched the.

Game, by the way, the top twelve. The qualifiers that were used was something right now.

Right now.

It was right now. So it was like eliminating Matt Stafford. Kirk Cousins, aaron Rogers.

They're not playing right now.

All these guys.

Current starting quarterback.

It was like, literally like the last two weeks.

Current starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Top twelve.

Because you had one that was wild.

That you I had a couple that were wild.

Yeah, they were just wild.

What were they?

You want them over to Sean?

Yes.

Even though we took contracts. Gino yes. The Stafford one was because Stafford one was I was like, if he plays next week, PFT was like, yeah, I'd take Sam Howell over.

I would I would still do that next week.

I would not.

That might be insane. I actually think that Matt Stafford is great and very underrated still as a quarterback somehow.

But that changed quickly. You have a future on the Rams win total.

I do. Over seven and a half. But that was before Matt Stafford got hurt.

Okay.

He's hurt. He's got a dislocated thumb. Big cat. I want my quarterback with two great thumbs.

Hank it was a mid off gross game to watch. Patriots are very uninspiring, per usual.

I wouldn't say that the Patriots are mid.

No, they're actually have that conversation. Worst team in the isn't mid like.

A battle of average team?

Yeah, it is. Hank's mid is doing a lot of work on that.

Hank factor Fiction is the worst team in the AFC.

Well, mids is the worst type of weed.

No, it's actually one of the best. No, it no, no, mid is average.

That's mids.

No, you don't know what mids is. You don't know what mids mids is mid.

What about Oregano? That's the worst type of weed.

That's bunk.

Okay, so the Patriots are bunk.

I guess. Yeah.

The Patriots are asked, hey, Factor Fiction.

Are the worst team in the AFC. Fact. Yeah, record wise, they are the worst.

So then fact. That's fact. Statistical fact.

Statistical fact.

Good for the draft position, which at this point is all I'm rooting for.

You are right now.

I did want to get that lighthouse on the board. I didn't want to have to admit that the lighthouse is not yeah, we got work to do there.

You right now are taking gronk. That's pretty.

You know, I have to admit the lighthouse is not real. I have to make a PowerPoint presentation, which is just more work, which sucks.

You have to admit what we all knew.

Although the team did release a really cool video today of a drone panning up from a water, federally funded, and you could see the lighthouse in the background, which I got some tips from the inside. Was not coincidence.

Yeah.

So it was interesting because you showed me that video acting like it was proving something, and the drone starts off like 100ft in the air and then goes up 200ft in the air. So I don't know. I don't think you can see it from the waterway. It didn't really prove anything.

Are we boring? Just yawned in our face.

I think you knew the lighthouse was fake all along, and you're like, Defend the wall, Patriots. Hank kind of came out a little bit.

It should be a relief. You can just admit it.

Not really. It's like, I have nothing.

I have nothing to root for. I said, we got to rebuild around the lighthouse. The lighthouse was kind of like, that was my Super Bowl this year.

And now you don't have anything.

I actually think Gronk could shotgun the lighthouse. That's how flimsy and tasteless it is.

Do you think there's a chance that Bill Belichick watched Sam Howell and was like, top twelve quarterback? I thought so. I want to coach this guy.

He was looking real hard when Sam Howe was on the field.

I don't think so. I don't think he's going to go coach the Washington whatever the fuck they're called next year.

You think he hates the lighthouse? I bet he does. That's like some Mickey Mouse.

Only been bad memories.

Yeah.

Belichick doesn't like publicity stunts like that. He likes football. He likes a football team? Well, no, but he only there was a team that had been called the football team at one point.

He could work, obviously, you know, a big fan of the troops, service members. He knows the importance of things like lighthouses for the Navy and things of that nature. So I'm sure he's a supporter.

Yeah.

Well, what about a team that's literally called the Commanders that's stationed, like, I don't know, 30 minutes away from the Naval Academy?

Factor fiction. They're not going to use that name because Josh Harris has been wearing the Merch.

That's a fact.

But also they're really close to the Naval Academy, so factor fiction. He loves Naval Academy.

Fact.

That's a fact. That's a fact. Jack I did like Ron Rivera in The Post know a lot of coaches are like, Victory Monday. We're taking work off Rivera in true, I'm already fired and I know it.

Guy.

Fashion goes. We're doing victory Monday. Everybody's like yeah. He's like, end victory Tuesday. Oh, no, work till Wednesday.

Nice.

That's what I would do if if I was in his shoes right now. I'd be like, you know what? Let's just not nobody show up to work till Friday.

Yeah, we're good. We're good here.

We don't really need to do this.

PFD how many wins do you think the Commanders need to get to to get the 7th seed now that you're back into playoff mode?

I think nine.

Okay. Should we take a look?

Go through the schedule?

Give me their win.

Yep, go through the schedule.

All right.

At Seahawks win.

Now they're five. Giants at home win, they struggle with the Giants.

That wasn't Tommy DeVito, though.

Okay. At cowboys loss. Okay.

So there's still a credit to me for being realistic.

Dolphins loss.

Okay, well, Dolphins suck against good teams.

Are we good? We're not. At Rams. That's a win.

Yeah.

Win, yeah. At Jets I'm going to say loss. We don't play well at MetLife is bad for you. We don't play well at MetLife.

Niners loss, Cowboys win.

Sam Howe beat them at home last year.

That's eight wins.

We'll find another one.

And you also gave yourself a win at the Seahawks.

Yeah.

Okay. So we'll be yeah, there's what? Hang on.

We're going to make the playoffs.

I looked at the schedule. I was like, Wait, why are you.

Bringing Matthew to this? I gave that take for my ball.

Okay, let's find it. Okay. I think the Dolphins might be a win.

Say the schedule again.

All right.

At Seahawks win. Okay, so now you're at five.

Yeah.

Oh, I know what I'm going to.

Giants at home.

Yeah. Win.

Okay. At cowboys loss. Okay. Dolphins in December at home. At home.

No, I'm going to be honest and say loss.

At Rams, win.

At Jet win.

Okay, there it is. Niners loss, Cowboys win. Wait, that's delay. How do we do that? How do we do that? This is going to be some great podcast.

All right, do it. Fuck it. Run it back.

Here we go. You have four wins, right?

Yeah, yeah.

All right, I'm counting. At Seahawks. Win, Giants, win. At cowboys loss. Dolphins, loss. At Rams win.

At jets win.

Niners loss cowboys. There's the win.

That's nine. And we're the playoffs as a 17. Right where we want to be. Going up to the bank. Going up to the bank and taking.

On oh, you have your tiebreaker against the Falcons.

Could you stop saying that? The Eagles are the one seed in.

The NFC right now.

I don't know why you have just magically put them.

You'Ll win the football. I might put a future on the commanders to make the playoffs just because I want this so bad.

I'm so far ahead that I'm going to put a future on the commanders to win a playoff game because they're going to play the Eagles.

So next week's, a must win.

Must win, because when you look at.

The schedule, you have to win next week.

Yeah.

And if we lose that, then I'll just switch either the Dolphins game or the at Dallas game to a must win.

Yeah.

It's that easy.

Yeah, it's a must be. Niners might be in first place in the NFC by that time.

Okay. Commanders.

Nothing to play for commanders. It could happen.

Hank, you want to do your schedule?

Sure.

Okay, hold on. Let me pull it up. You have two wins right now.

Patriots.

The patriots have two wins. Oh, this one's going to test everyone's football fandom next week in Germany against the Colts win. At giants win, Chargers, win. Okay. At Steelers win.

You still think you're mid Chiefs.

Win.

Okay.

At Broncos win. At Bills.

At the bills. At the Bills loss. Oh, you remember that Monday night game, though?

Win.

Wow. So you guys are going to finish nine and eight, same as the Commanders.

That's pretty good.

All right. It's a true mid off two nine and eight teams.

They're both going to have, like, six wins this season.

Oh, man.

No, I mean, I could be talking the Commanders. Ron Rivera is probably giving him Monday and Tuesday off so we can go do job interviews somewhere. That's a classic move. But I am feeling good. I'm feeling good about the future of.

The franchise just because same out.

You have a good quarterback. The defensive line looked good today.

You have draft fillings.

We got draft picks. We got a new owner, new name, probably new stadium. In the next, like, four years, you.

Might have gotten your groove back.

I did.

I did.

If you're buying stock, you should buy stock in Washington right now.

Is there a chance ahead of that? Is there a chance the Patriots are really bad?

Oh, they're very bad.

Yeah.

And you won by also.

Yeah, it's a listen, have you listened to me react to any Commanders win before on this show? It's the same thing. I get excited, but I can't change who I am.

No, you can't.

I feel good about this win. I feel good about having a quarterback that can throw the ball.

Yeah.

It's been so long since I've had that.

It's huge. If you beat the Cowboys twice, you could maybe even finish second in the NFC East.

Who knows?

Yeah, who knows? All right.

Cowboys first, commander second. Eagles third.

Eagles third. All right, packers, Rams. This game. Stunk bret rippen. And, I mean, the Rams stink anyway, but then when you put in Brett Rippen, they're extra stinky.

Yeah, he was hilarious, but not in a fun, hilarious way. Funny enough, he did have a very funny fumble.

Yeah.

And the Packers Jordan Love looked good. They finally ran the ball, which I think every packers fan on the face of the earth has been asking them to do. Aaron Jones ran the ball 20 times effectively. And, yeah, this game was not fun to watch, but good for the packers.

So I'm going to turn this over to recurring guest to part of my take, actually, Samuel L. Jackson.

Okay.

Because he had the best take on this game. He said, at what point do we start the Rams coaching conversation? Oh, I think you just did, Samuel. I think you just did.

Well, he's on TV right there.

That's wild.

That is wild.

I would like to say that Samuel brings up a good point, although I don't think that we should talk about firing Sean McVeigh because Sean McVeigh is without a doubt, probably a top five coach in the NFL. But I do think that he should be allowed to work remotely with a newborn. Like at this game, did he really need to show up for this game? No, he could have done this all on zoom and just chill it at his house where he does it's. Like when they do the draft and the Rams don't have any picks. That's how Sean McFay should coach the Rams when they play in a game and he doesn't have a starting quarterback.

Yeah, I'd agree.

Let him work from home.

I want to remind everyone because this is always tough when a team wins a couple games to start the season and everyone's like, OOH, they might be good. The Rams were not supposed to be good this year. They weren't. They were not supposed to be in the playoffs. I think their win total was like six and a half preseason. So it's not really surprising that they stink. They stink.

What did it for me was watching Matt Stafford play because when he's healthy and he plays, he's still really good and he can get you to win some games that you should not win. Just with some ridiculous I'm not I'm not ready to put the Rams at the bottom of the barrel when Matt Stafford's playing. When he's not playing. They're very I think they're unwatchable.

I think they're pretty bad even when he's playing. But yeah, I thought they were going to be bad going into this year and they won a couple games early that everyone was like, OOH, watch out for the Rams. They're kind of what we expected. So I don't think Sean McVeigh's job should be his seat should be hot.

No.

Because if you even let him know that he's just going to go to TV.

Yeah.

And the packers good for the packers let's see, their draft pick went down to the 7th pick today. So good win. You need those wins.

Yep.

Someone's got to get the 7th seed.

It's a win where on Sunday you're watching it. If you're a packers fan, you're like, hell yeah.

All right.

We went up to went up to Lambeau, got a win, saw a bunch of guys in the stands wearing their deer hunting outfits that they wear when the season starts. That's always fun.

It starts next weekend.

Oh, next weekend.

Next weekend.

Okay.

Next weekend. You'll see a lot of camo up in the stands.

A lot of real tree clown.

You a lot of real tree thank you.

Yeah.

Don't want another mistake of no, I was doing a bit like when we do daylight savings time every year. That's right. We always say that hunting season starts one week. Yes, yes. But yeah, if you're a packers fan, today was fun because you got to see win, but then you're going to sit down Monday and be like, I really wish we had not won that game.

Yeah.

But Jordan love did look better. I think he spent too much time with Aaron Rodgers.

You think so?

Yeah.

Got a contact high?

No. Some of his movements are Aaron Rodgers esque. Like, I can throw this ball from any angle kind of thing, or like, backpedaling. It's like but you're not Aaron Rodgers.

Watching him run the Aaron Rodgers hard count is tough.

Right? I don't know. That's just a working theory that I have. I don't know if packers fans are going to say I'm really stupid, but there's just a couple of times where it's like, he's almost doing an imitation of Aaron Rodgers until he releases the throw, and it's like, Wait, that throw is not Aaron Rodgers.

Like a really shitty cover of a.

Song that you think, maybe I'm way off, maybe I'm just seeing it with hater glasses on?

You might be. I think that's a distinct possibility.

I think.

But I silently agree with I don't think that real fans of the team think that Jordan Love is the future.

No, but he won the game today, so they probably should give him more time. Yeah, probably give him more time. All right. Another stinky game. Browns 27, cardinals zero. Clayton toon. Poor Clayton Toon to start your career against the Browns and this defense. He was sacked seven times. He threw two picks. The Cardinals offense had 58 net offensive yards. They were one for twelve from third down, and the Browns got their first shutout since 2007.

Yeah, they had 17 net yards passing, 41 yards rushing, seven sacks, three turnovers. The Browns at home, four and one. Stefanski improves to 18 and seven after a loss. They always win after they lose. And if you're a Browns fan, that's like, run the damn ball, stefanski, you got your wish today. You got fronted. One of them had 20 carries, one of them had 13. And they both averaged, like, 2.2 yards per carry. But it was about just like, running the ball, establishing the run, killing the clock, knowing that the Cardinals are not nearly good enough to beat you with that defense. So you just play, like, keep away.

Yeah.

And that's what they did. They absolutely smothered them. It was never a doubt. Deshaun back looked bad to start. Started to kind of find himself later.

That touchdown pass off a helmet really got him going.

That one was crazy. But he did also throw a nice ball to Mari Cooper later in the game. I guess if you're, well, Browns fans, in perfect Browns fashion, you kill the Cardinals first shut up since 2007. Deshaun comes back, starts to kind of feel like he's finding his legs, and then your star offensive lineman, Jedrick Willis gets carded off. Yeah, that way it's just like this is with the whole Brown season. Whenever they have a little bit of happiness, it's like, no, let's smash it real quick.

And so you talked about the roller coaster Brown season. I think the schedule makers designed it that way. Yeah, because if you look at their next series of games. They are probably going to lose to the Ravens. They are probably going to beat the Steelers, and, oh, then they have the Broncos. They'll probably win that game, too, but they're pretty much designed to go win loss, win loss, win loss with a couple back to back wins.

Sprinkled it's it's Torturous Brown season because when their defense is playing well and Deshaun is back and looks okay, it's like, wow, this could be a playoff team, like a very good team. And then whenever they have that moment, a catastrophic injury happens to one of their best players and they go fall back down to earth. They're like, here's some that's tough.

It's very tough if you're the Cardinals now and you got Kyler coming back.

Yeah.

Do you think Kyler really wants to be back?

Well, the Cardinals are really, really bad. They've lost four out of the last five games by double digits, and the only one they didn't was that Ravens game where they snuck in the back. They're really, really bad. But I think Kyler might be playing for his job.

I think he is playing for a contract. He's playing for a job.

He's playing for his job with the Arizona Cardinals, which you could make the argument he doesn't want that job anymore.

I think he's playing for a job in terms of a contract, like a starting caliber contract.

But anyone he just signed one.

Well, what's his extension?

Didn't he sign one? Remember the whole video game?

Yeah, the whole video game thing. But what's their out on that? Because, like, NFL contracts aren't real.

No, of course.

But usually for a quarterback, two to three years is probably very real.

His potential out is not till 2028.

Okay, then, yeah, he is playing for.

It six years, $219,000,000 or no, five years, $230,000,000 contract.

I completely forgot about that contract extension.

So he's not playing for a contract, but I do think he is playing for his job on the Arizona Cardinals because if he comes back, doesn't play well, they have the number one pick. We've seen it before.

Then they'll trade.

They moved on from Josh Rosen after one year.

Yeah.

Obviously Kyler Murray is way better than Josh Rosen, but it's not crazy to think they'd be like, all right, let's draft Caleb Williams and trade Kyler Murray somewhere, or Drake May. But the question is, if you're Kyler Murray, do you want your job on the Cardinals? I don't know. I think I'd want my job somewhere else.

That's what I'm saying. If you're Kyler Murray, do you want to come back and play right now? I probably wouldn't, but he's wait, can they look into his screen time that he's been doing on his that while he's been hurt?

Well so if he doesn't come back, if he's not activated, think I think that's it for the yeah, that'd be but I think he has too much pride.

Let's think. About it from the perspective of if the Cardinals truly believe that Kyler Murray is their future guy, which I don't think that they necessarily totally believe that right now.

Correct.

But if they did, would you want Kyler Murray, as the Cardinals to come back and risk injury in a season that's already gone? You probably wouldn't.

Right.

But Kyler Murray, he doesn't want to come back and play because he probably doesn't want to get injured and risk his chances of being quarterback for not the Cardinals.

I think football players want to play football.

Is he a football player?

I think he's a football player.

Is he a baseball player?

That's a good question. If Kyler Murray comes back, I think the Cardinals can win a couple games.

See how confident that knee.

Yeah. It's a mess, though.

It is.

Either way.

It's a I feel I actually feel bad for Jonathan Gannon because it's a mess.

I think Jonathan Gannon is actually doing the perfect job in what they wanted him to.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because be bad knowing that Kyler was going to be out until November. At the start of the season, they are in full on tank got.

And again, you got to live off that. Cowboys win for, like, a month and a half.

Yeah, it's great.

Everyone's like man, the cardinals are frisky.

Yeah.

You got an entire Monday's worth of Skip Bayless being super pissed off at the Cowboys because of you.

Yeah.

That's worth anything. Okay, next last game of the early slate. Saints 24, Bears 17. We don't have to spend a lot of time on this. I would just say that kind of pathetic that the Saints only won by seven when they had the Bears turn the ball over five times.

I actually agree with you because I don't think I've ever seen a team run more plays in the fourth quarter, like, deep inside their opponent's territory and not score points than the Saints did today.

Kind of pathetic. Kind of pathetic.

Yeah.

The Bears had five turnovers. They missed. They doinked a kick, and they only lost by seven.

Yeah.

Kind of pathetic. And also, I don't think Derek Carr got sacked. Kind of pathetic.

That is pretty pathetic. This was a Taysom Hill game, though. Taysom was one for one passing, three yards and a touchdown. He had eleven carries for 52 yards. And as we know about Taysom Hill, I think when he carries the ball seven times in a game, they're 18 and one. Yeah, the Saints are. And then he had four receptions for 16 yards and a touchdown. So they built the entire offense out of Taysom Hill today, which is great to watch. It does work. I still don't know how the Saints didn't blow out the Bears. It seemed like they should be winning by, like, 20 points for the entire fourth.

Well, Tyson Pageant was really good if you only do the first three quarters.

Yes.

He was 15 for 19. 201 yards, two TDs and a pick.

Yeah, you can hang the banner too.

Big cat.

Fourth quarter, he was three for 1119 yards, two picks.

Yeah, it's bad. Fourth quarter, had some really bad interceptions.

Maybe didn't know the game was four.

Quarters, but you can hang the banner. You extended Montez sweat.

Yeah.

Which okay, real quick, I understand the Bears are a joke. I make fun of the Bears more than anyone. They're a joke of a franchise. They make terrible mistakes at every turn. There are moments where I have to push back because people just like, it's free clicks to dunk on the Bears and the amount of people that move the goalpost with Montez Sweat, where Montez Sweat said one thing when they asked him, have you thought about your extension? He's like, I haven't even found a house to build or house to sleep in yet. And everyone was ha. They're not going to resign. Like, the whole Internet did this and dunked on the Bears. And then what happens? A day later, they resign them to exactly what we thought was going to happen, and everyone just moves the goalpost to be like, overpay. Can't believe they did that. You can't have it every single way. You can't always be dunking on the Bears when you tell us that it's a bad move because he's not going to resign. And then the minute he resigns, being like, you guys paid him too much.

Yeah. When I saw that he had the quote of, like, I haven't thought about the extension. It just gave me a 5% chance of him doing the thing that I.

Wasn'T telling you about you specifically.

There's a lot of people from day one right when the trade happened, I told you they're going to resign him. This would be the worst move in the history of football if they signed him as a rental for a team that's not going to do anything this year and then paid a second round pick for him and then lost him in free agency, that's a level of incompetence that I don't think any franchise is capable. I was just hoping that he would use the Bears for, like, seven weeks and then be like, you know what? I'm a commander at heart. I'm going to resign with the commanders.

And I get it. I get it. The bears are easy clicks. They're easy to make fun of. I make fun of them a lot. But there definitely are points in time where I have to be like, shut up, everyone. You can't just keep dunking on the Bears when they actually make good moves for the long term. And you just have to find a way to change the narrative to be, huh, the Bears suck. The bears do suck. But this was a good they they finally got a defensive player that they needed desperately because when you have a really bad team, you need to upgrade every position. So they upgraded a position.

Yeah.

And he's good and he's a great.

Player and signed Jalen Johnson next. And the bears still stink. And guess what, America, you get to watch the Bears versus Panthers on Thursday night.

That's a real test. Between that and the Germany game on.

Sunday, it's a must win for the Bears. No, is yeah. Because we have the Panthers pick.

Oh, yeah.

There you have to win.

So we have to win. Update on the Saints coin. I think that now is officially the time where we should start respecting the Saints coin because it's nine and o. Yeah. So the Saints coin had this as a win. They did the thing where they flip a coin for every game on the schedule. It hasn't lost yet. And then they have next weekend, the Vikings as a win. This Saints coin, I think, could be legit.

Yeah, it could be legit. We're watching it. Last thing, I'm just going to say this real quick. I think Ryan Poles has made some mistakes. Eber fluce chase claypool but Montez sweat was a smart move. And you have to just admit that him getting DJ Moore and the Carolina Panthers first round pick was a great fucking yeah. Like people will say that he's incompetent. You can't just just pretend those two things didn't happen. I'm just going to get you darnell writes very good.

I'm going to get you ready for the counterargument to that big cat. Go ahead, counterargument to that.

Oh, they're going to screw up the picks. They have more pick. That's usually what people say. That's a good and it's probably true.

Would CJ Stroud have been available with that pick?

Well, I mean, I don't know. You can't I'm getting you ready. I'm getting you. I know, I know. People will start saying that, oh, you could have taken CJ Stroud. I don't know. You had to keep like you have don't that one is a little bit of a stretch to me. Do the Patrick Mahomes all you want because that's fair. But that one's a little bit of.

A stretch because in reality, I don't think that the Bears were going to give up on Justin Fields at that point.

Right. And also the plan was if Justin Fields ended up being the guy the whole table was like, because then you had two picks and a franchise quarterback. So that's worth trying to take that risk.

Yeah, they got a good haul. They definitely did.

CJ Stroud probably would have been terrible with the Bears because everyone's terrible with the Bears. Shout out to I can say that the Bears suck.

You just can't shout out to Dennis Allen because he has five wins now. Do you know what his previous record was in terms of his fastest time to five wins in the season?

It had to be like Week 13, week 15. Okay.

It was week 15.

The worst coach ever.

Dennis Allen is still bad again, but.

He should be embarrassed that they only won by seven.

But he figured out how to just make the entire offense. Taysom Hill.

Yeah. Yeah.

I wish we could put Tyson Bajent and Justin Fields into the same quarterback and just make it one.

You want to combine the right parts, though.

I want to combine Tyson Bajan's.

His tattoos?

No, his decisiveness. And like, I'm going to throw the football and then maybe give him Justin Fields arm strength and running ability.

Justin Fields arm strength, but with Tyson Bajan's dad, the arm wrestler yes. To have like a super strong arm.

Yeah.

Yes.

Because Tyson Bajan, he sees something, he's like, I'm going to throw it here. And it doesn't always work because he doesn't really have that strong of an arm. But he sees it, he throws it.

I think Tyson Bajan has made himself a lot of money in these past couple weeks because he hasn't played bad enough to be like, oh, that guy can't be a backup quarterback. Yeah, he's established himself as the only thing is the tattoos. He might have too many tattoos and the fourth quarter, too much moxie. I mean, if you're looking for a backup quarterback, you're going to get a guy that's going to throw it's par for the course. But I think he's made himself some money and might have a decent career as a backup quarterback.

Maybe.

Now, Hank, as to your mid off point, the NFC South is a mid off.

Yep.

It is the biggest mid off in the history of mid offs.

They always are, kind of.

Yeah, I think the Saints are the best team, but I don't know.

Yeah.

I struggled to beat the Bears when they got five turnovers.

I can be convinced otherwise. I can be talked into any team that's not the Panthers from that division on a week by week basis.

Yeah. I got to look that up. Maybe, Jake, you can look that up for me for tomorrow. What is the closest score? Final score when a team had the turnover margin won by five? Because that is pretty remarkable.

Yeah.

50 and they only lost by seven. Okay, we'll do the afternoon games. We're going to take one more break and we'll finish up with the afternoon games.

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Okay. Afternoon games. Raiders 30, Giants six. The big story before this game was Jay Glazer's report that the final days of Josh McDaniels went exactly how you expected the final days of Josh McDaniels to go. They had a team meeting. All the players voiced how much they hated. Yep. Uh, then Josh McDaniels, sensing that he was losing the room, asked Antonio Pierce to stand in front of the locker room and kind of rally the guys. He talked about culture. He talked about his Giants teams winning Super Bowls. He talked about his Giants team beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl, which were coached by Josh McDaniels. And then afterward, Josh McDaniels says, don't talk about the Patriots.

Yeah.

And that's just the perfect Josh. I don't know if it's true. I would assume it is because Jay Glazer, but Josh McDaniels being that butthurt about a guy trying to rally the troops and being like, don't talk about the Patriots like that for another coach.

You might think that he was, like, joking, being, hey, why you got to come at me like that with Josh McDaniels? I believe it. I believe any story. It's like the urban Meyer Jaguar situation. When there's a story written in six months in the Athletic, and it talks about all the stuff that went wrong in Vegas, I'm going to eat that shit up. It's going to be great. You could say anything. And I will 100% believe that Josh McDaniels actually did it and was responsible for it in Las Vegas.

Yes, 100%. So the bounce back happened because the Raiders, when you fire a guy like Josh McDaniels, every team should actually hire Josh McDaniels for a game just so you can fire him. Because I bet you the team would perform that much better. You could tell just like right off the jump, the Giants stink, but the Raiders were playing with a lot more purpose, like a lot more energy. You could feel it. And they completely killed the Giants. Obviously, Daniel Jones gets hurt again, which sucks. And Tommy DeVito comes in, and he threw back to back interceptions on back to back passes. But he did score a touchdown. He looked better score a touchdown. He went 15 for 20 for 175 yards.

He looked better in the second half. When he first got in, it seemed like it was going to be another, like, negative two net passing yards for old Tommy D for old TD. The Raiders. I like the bounce back with Antonio Pierce. He's a good interim coach. I don't know if his interim magic is going to carry over because he was like, super conservative. He wasn't animated enough for my liking for an interim coach on the sidelines. I think the Raiders should get a new interim coach every single week for the rest of the season.

I like that.

I think they should bring in anyone that's ever been. Bring besace back.

Will Compton.

Will Compton. Bring the boy in? Rob Ryan should get a chance to be an interim coach for them.

Coach O.

Coach O. A Ouija board that has a connection to Al Davis. That's just like, throw it deep to our fast. Tom cable.

Yep.

Bring back all these guys, all the legends of the game. Dan Campbell will probably do it on their oh, it's this week. Dan Campbell will probably do it.

Yeah.

He probably wouldn't give a bring. Bring in all the interim coach all Stars and get one week of emotion out of them.

John Gruden.

Oh, gruden maybe.

John Gruden and the mustache.

Yeah, gruden would be awesome.

Yeah, that would be sick.

Do the Ask Madden play calling for one week. Have John Madden coach your.

Yeah. Yeah.

Virtual John Madden. To actually figure out how to coach your team. Art Shell.

You could bring back AI John Madden. Except it's just Mark Davis dressed up as John Madden on the sideline.

Hugh Jackson.

No, I wouldn't.

As a former Raider, I don't wish.

That upon any man. Art shell. Yeah.

Lane Kiffin.

Yeah.

Once the Ole Miss season is over, why not? I do think Antonio Pierce was conservative, but when Tommy DeVito comes in the game, you can be as conservative as you want. You go into just when Tommy DeVito came in the game, it was in the middle of the first quarter. I live bet the Giants under twelve and a half points, which was a thrill. It's like one big play and I'm fucked.

Yeah.

And I was never really fucked.

In situations like that. I feel for Saquon Barkley that's just like, well, they're just going to hand me the ball repeatedly. The Raiders had not scored 21 points in a game all season. In the first half. They scored 21 points in the first half. Offensive genius Antonio Pierce really shows up. Josh McDaniels, I love it.

Is Aidan O'Connell. The best Aidan athlete ever in American sports.

I'm trying to think of other Aidans.

He's the best Aidan quarterback.

I'm just going to type in to Google Aiden and see what autocorrect I.

Think he's the only Aiden quarterback ever. I looked that up.

Aiden Fauci. I mean, there's got oh, let's say that Aiden Hutchinson.

Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah, he's probably I think he might yeah, he's the only Aiden quarterback I could find.

I think so.

So he might be the best.

I'm just going to say NFL players named Aiden players aiden Hutchinson is a good answer.

I think he's number one Aidan right now. I think we might get a bunch of Aidans coming up. Yeah, it feels like a name.

They're going to be like the Jalens, like ten years from now.

Yeah, I think that's going to happen. But so he was the first.

He was the first. He's a groundbreaker. Yeah, he broke the Aidan barrier.

He did. But yeah, the Raiders, they were feeling it like the change so much because it probably is the greatest feeling in the world to have Josh McDaniels not in your life anymore. By every account, he's just a terrible person to be. Report there was a picture that went viral. It was an angle of Mark Davis walking on the field and someone had reported that his bowl cut was gone. Thank God it's not.

No, it's creeping further back.

It was the side. Yeah, but that was the vibes going into this game for the Raiders. They mean business to such a level that Mark Davis changes hair.

Yeah, I don't think that's ever going to happen.

I saw it and I got so heartbroken that I went trying to find more pictures. I was like, thank God.

The only way that would be believable is because he's got a nice new girlfriend. She looks lovely. She's always in his box. And if she convinced him to cut.

She'S an Australian singer, right? I think so.

Famous in her own right? Yes, she's a model. She's got. Was it VSCO? Is that what's in her profile, Hank? Is that what the kids have hit that up?

Hank yep.

Yeah.

Maybe a girl could convince him. But I still think that Mark Davis.

Is I don't even think so. He'd just be like, all right, you're not for me.

These hoes can't change this.

Listen, I'm a package deal. Bowl cut comes with the package.

That's part of his allure.

It is. He's mysterious.

If you were to date a guy like that, I don't think that the bowl cut would be the thing that would be a deal breaker.

Right.

And it's also like when you see Mark Davis and he has a lot of money. I know he doesn't have a lot of money, but he has a lot of money because he owns the Raiders, which he might not be able to own because he might not be able to pay the taxes.

That's enough money.

Yeah, he has money theoretically. He owns a professional, an NFL team. He theoretically has a lot of money. And then he has that haircut you're like. This guy's a freak.

He knows something.

He's probably the craziest dresses in all white.

Yeah.

He peacocks.

That's what he does.

Right. Because it makes no sense.

No.

A man with that money theoretically should get a better haircut, but he doesn't, and that's why he's so alluring.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's our recap of the game. Colts 27, Panthers 13. The Panthers might be the saddest organization in the NFL right now.

Okay.

So I was sitting down thinking about this, because I think if we do the bleakest future draft all over again right now, I think the Panthers are number one, because you just spent a number one overall pick on a quarterback that who knows if he's going to be good or not. But at this moment, you can't help but just focus all your attention on Houston. You want CJ Stroud to start sucking immediately if you're a Panthers fan yeah.

You have the wrong guy will devastate you. As someone who's done that many times before, wrong guy will devastate you. And you paid a first round pick and DJ Moore for it.

Yeah.

And you don't really like your owner. Don't care for him too much.

Micromanager.

Micromanager. Frank Reich is your head coach, and you just hired him, so you're probably not going to fire him this year. It's rare, but it has happened before where you fire a guy after one year. You're not too happy with the state of affairs in Charlote right now.

Yeah.

Price Young had three picks, two pick sixes. Kenny Moore II had both the pick sixes, which is awesome.

And then Jim Ursay stunted on you after the game video of the year from Mr. Ursay.

Incredible.

Singing along, dancing along, to Meek Mill in the locker room. It was all time. Yeah. I can't stop watching it. Mr. Ursay is the people's owner. Love him or hate him, he's going to put out content for you. And this was an all time video from him.

Also, the Colts, I'm happy they won because they keep their frisky tag.

Yeah.

If you're three and six, it's hard to be frisky. If you're four and five, you are frisky.

Yeah.

And Minchi one is on the road is in Charlote yeah.

He didn't light it up, but it doesn't matter. He didn't turn the ball over, which was huge. But, yeah. Their defense, the two pick sixes, the first one, there was, like, 40 seconds left in the first half. Right. And he threw a pick six. That was tough.

Yeah, that was tough.

So, yeah, I think Panthers fans might have it the worst right now.

It's bad.

You don't even get to do the we can't wait for the draft.

Yeah, it's bad when Jim Ursa is just dropping his ass on you after the game.

Wrong guy. Every time. CJ Stroud plays well again, any Panthers fans want to reach out? I've been through it. I can talk you through it. When CJ Stroud wins, like, two super Bowls and goes to six, seven straight AFC championship games and you're already one past Bryce Young on another guy, that's not good. We can talk.

You can blame Tepper. You can blame David Tepper, taking him out for dinner, being impressed with his order of the scallops. That's when he decided that it was going to be Bryce Young.

When you trade up, you got to get the right guy.

Yeah.

Again, speaking from experience, you got to get the right guy. You got to get the right guy. All right, last game, cowboys 28, eagles 23. Eagles seven and one. Eight and one. There it is, Max. Eight and one. Cowboys blew this game ten different ways, but the Eagles win. Escape. It felt like an escape game.

That's fine. Yeah, escape, for sure. I'm willing to admit escape.

Like, I weirdly watched this game. I had the eagles. I was happy they covered. But I also walked away being like, maybe the Cowboys are for real because they actually played well offensively. Like, Dak had a good game. If you hadn't stepped out on that two point conversion, that was that the I'm not down on the Cowboys after that game, which is weird to say because the Cowboys feels like they haven't won one of those games in a while.

It's also the perfect DAC game because he played so well. He played pretty well.

No, he played very well. He was 2944-3743 touchdown.

Yeah, he played pretty well. And then he does the one thing that gives everybody all the ammo that they need to be like, look at Dak. Prescott can't win a big game because he has this brain fart and steps out of bounds.

I would also very bad.

Yeah, the game was bad. But Max, so you the reason why I say survived is because the Cowboys felt like everyone was open all day.

Yeah.

Secondary is a problem. Secondary is a lot of injuries.

Big problem.

But the offense is still really good. They went into a little bit of let's not lose instead of let's win.

Yeah, they went up eleven in the second half, and it was like they kind of passed.

It was like, let's run the football and let's just keep trying. Because the Eagles are you say this all the time. The Eagles are very good at running the football, and when they're up shortening game and eating clock and just the game goes to nowhere. It wasn't working. That wasn't happening. And they weren't adjusting. They were still trying to play like that same style football of like, let's just eat a ton of clock this drive. Eat a ton of clock this drive. And then they just kept getting three and outs. They had bad field position because of stops. So you can't be too upset about those. But the secondary is a problem. The offense is not. Eagles are eight and one and we just beat the Cowboys.

Here's a nice because, yeah, you're eight and one. You're top of the NFC, but a little bit of a silver lining, I think when the eagles do lose in the playoffs in devastating fashion, you'll at least be like, I kind of saw this one coming.

There's a lot of hot teams get hot at different times, and right now we're eight and one and the eagles are not hot.

Right.

I think that's true. That's a good assessment.

You're eight and one and you haven't even peaked yet.

Jalen Hurts is obviously playing hurt. I wouldn't say injured. I would say he's hurt.

So he doesn't or does look like himself.

He's playing like he's not running. He's not running like himself right now.

He took a shot to his knee today that I was amazed he wasn't injured from.

He's a tough mother.

He is very tough as fuck.

Yeah.

And we have a buy next week and then go beat the Chiefs on Monday night football.

Is the buy coming to you at a good time?

Couldn't be coming at a better time.

I think it's a perfect time.

You guys are one and o against the buy this year.

Yeah. Next week the eagles win. They win with a buy.

Buy should be player of the week for you.

Yeah, for sure.

Where's the game against chiefs?

I think it's arrowhead.

Tough place to play.

Yeah, that's going to be a tough game.

That's a measuring stick game.

Tough place to play.

Yeah.

I wish we could do Whose line is it Anyway? Although they're on a buy two next.

Week, so maybe oh, let's see. Can we do Whose line is it Anyway?

I'm going to say chiefs.

You probably can.

Chiefs two and a half. I would say chiefs four.

I would say Chiefs three and a half. And it's going to get bet down to three.

I would say maybe three.

One and a half.

Three. It's my final answer.

Do you have it?

Do we know how to look?

I'm looking, but it's not immediately available.

Shout out Jerry Jones, by the way.

Next week's schedule is not looking good.

Jerry Jones went back to the well, and after the rangers won a world series, he referred to world series as being it's the absolute glory hole. To have that elusive win, to be the champion, jerry, like, two years ago was like, I want me some glory hole. Jerry knows exactly what a glory hole.

Is, by the way, but his PR.

People had to come in and clean it up and be like, no, he's not talking about sticking your. Dick through a hole in a bathroom stall. He's just talking about having window. That's what he's talking about. Window. No. Jerry Jones knows exactly what a glory he is. A big glory hole guy.

Huge glory hole guy. Guys, next week we're going to have to what do you got, Jake? Oh, do someone have the line?

I don't see anything official, but some people on Twitter are saying Chiefs minus three, but nothing official.

Okay, next week we're going to struggle. We're going to be fine. We're going to find a way. But it just dawned on me. The Chiefs, Eagles, and Dolphins are on a buy. Those are three teams that are fun to watch.

Let's see.

We got the best game is niners jags, Browns, Ravens.

Not bad.

Yeah, but it's a good split. We got morning and six and yeah.

Yeah, that's true. Lions chargers would be fun. We'll have fun no matter what. We always max anywhere. Any comments on G string gate?

I don't know if that could have.

Been angles if people missed it. Eagles coach kind of had to jump out of the way of a play and his pants started to creep down a little bit and it looked like he was wearing a red G string.

You know, I'm not going to knock a guy's superstition sometimes.

Oh, superstition's.

Got it.

Or it might be like a turnover chain.

Yeah.

Where you get to wear that if you're the best coach in the building that week.

Also, Dallas Goddard broke his arm.

Officially broke his arm. So better than a sprain.

Yeah.

Can you sprain your four?

Oh, yeah, you can sprain anything.

Sprain anything, dude.

Sure.

I don't know if that's so how.

Long is he out for?

It didn't say. It was like, expected.

I'm going to guess six weeks.

Better than a sprain.

MRI tomorrow? Monday?

Better than a sprain. Oh, if he's having an MRI, he might also have a sprain. That might be a double whammy. Broke and a sprain.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question.

Five weeks coming at a great time.

Bye. Week's coming at a great time.

Get the boys healthy. Get the boys rested.

And you're eight and one.

Yeah.

You're up a game and a half on the rest of the NFC because the lines didn't play today.

But you can.

Anyone can.

That's true. Anyone can lose.

The Chiefs just lost to the fucking Broncos.

That's true. That's true. Where would you power rank the entire NFL, though? Would you say the Eagles are one? I wouldn't. I'd put the Chiefs one.

The Chiefs just lost to the fucking Broncos.

I know.

I put ravens was sick.

Ravens, one, Chiefs two.

Jalen Hurts is playing on one. Ravens two. Eagles, three.

You guys are so recency. Bias out the fucking ass.

Yeah.

No, dude. Literally, the NFL media well, that's literally this show.

The Texans just lost to the Panthers last week.

PFT just said the Commanders are going to go to the fucking playoffs. Sam Howell is a top twelve quarterback.

They're going to beat the Eagles.

I made on the top twelve quarterback.

Me and BFT were on right now.

Listen, I will have no better ally in this whole Sam Howell thing than Max. Because Sam Howell has played like two of his best games so good against Eagles.

So you're going to be see him in the playoffs.

Max is in my hole.

Yeah.

You don't want to see us. You don't want to see us, Max.

Imagine that one seed.

What if Sam Howell beats you in the first round of the playoffs?

Max?

That would suck.

I could see it happening, though.

I do think the Eagles are very good. I just think that they are weirdish.

They're not dominant. That's the thing. But the record's dominant.

I don't know what weirdish. Weirdest is doing a lot of work.

You guys talk about each team and you're like, oh, this team hasn't beaten a good like, what have the Eagles not done?

They're very good.

What have they not done? For you to not be sold on?

You lost the.

It was I felt like the Cowboys if that game had gone five more minutes, you're like, we.

Haven'T beat good teams.

We beat the cowboys. No, I never said you didn't beat.

No, but that's what you say about other teams.

Right. But the Eagles have beaten good teams. Correct. Right. So what are you getting mad about?

I don't know why you think the Eagles are bad.

I don't think they're bad. I think they're very good. Do you think that something's a little.

Off jalen hurts playing on one fucking leg?

Okay.

Secondary.

Secondary.

PFT. I think most Eagles fans literally.

I.

Think you know what, secondary. That's a good answer.

Max, how about this?

Max is mad.

Who has a bye week next week?

The eagles, dolphins, Chiefs, rams.

Okay.

So I'm going to say that even if the Ravens beat the Browns next week no, here's what I'll do next week after the buy. I think the buy is coming at a better time for the Eagles than it is for the Chiefs. I'm going to catapult the Eagles over the Chiefs after the bye week in my power rankings because I think the Eagles are going to do better on the bye week.

That's good.

Get healthier than the Chiefs will.

The Chiefs are already extended by because they play Monday Night Football.

Exactly.

So the Chiefs are going to make they're going to be fine with the bye week. They'll still be great when they come back. Eagles are really going to use this bye week to springboard up my power rankings. Is that fair, Max?

Sure. I mean, he's very upset.

Yeah.

You're in your feelings.

Why are you.

Gave the right answer? The secondary is the thing. You guys won.

Yes. The eagles won.

Yeah.

You make it seem like they lost?

No, I just thought that I was shocked with how easy the Cowboys were able to get first downs at the.

End of the game.

You were, too. We were sitting next to each other. Like you kept on screaming, everything's open. They're always open.

You did say that they don't deserve to win this game.

Well, then you said that he did.

But then the Cowboys also didn't deserve.

To win the game.

So no one deserved because they got back to back penalties.

Yeah, I think, Max, it's because you had this game against the Cowboys where the Cowboys could have very easily, at least tied, potentially won the game if Dak didn't just step out of bounds on that scramble to the right. And also the games against the Commanders where they looked like they were at least deserving to be on the same field in the same conversation. Those three close wins that you had that didn't really feel like great wins, that's got you feeling a little bit.

What about the dolphins?

Yeah, great game.

Fraud.

It was a great game.

You were just talking about how good the Chiefs are because about how they played against the Dolphins.

I think the Chiefs are good. I think the Chiefs are really good because they've won Super Bowls.

Max, right now, you were a top three team in the NFL.

I had you three. You want me to put you one?

I'll put you no, no, wait till after the bye.

I'll put you one. I'm going to put you one.

Juggernaut the Eagles do have a gauntlet after the buy.

She's right.

When I niners, cowboys, Seahawks, I'm going.

To bet on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl after this stretch because they're going to lose a couple of these games. And that's fine.

Max.

That's fine.

Yes, that's fine. If you lose in arrowhead on Monday Night Football, you're going to be like.

Oh, the Eagles stink when they I thought it would be wrong of us to be like, damn, the Eagles, they crush what if they beat the Chiefs? I actually think they will. Then I'll be like, Eagles are the best team in football. I think they might beat the Chiefs 100%. I would say they're the best team in football.

All right, fuck it. Whatever.

Do you think it's fair that I have the Chiefs the best team in football because they are the defending Super Bowl champs?

Well, I mean, who they play in the Super Bowl.

That's true. They never beat a good team in the Super Bowl and seen that was great. You know what I love about they're eight and one. He took off his headphones here's what.

I love about Max is he is actually the voice of anyone that listens to the show and gets mad at us for not respecting their team enough.

Right. Like Max.

Of course he's going to be mad because we're not respecting his team enough because he thinks he's an eagles fan. They're eight and one. He's like, you guys should be saying they're the best team in we just I don't think that they're the best team in football.

There's a little bit off and it's probably the secondary. And Jalen Hurts also having a little bit of a gimpy leg and I just wasn't going to walk away from the eagles cowboys game being like, eagles dominate that. You can't that was a good game. Eagles are the better team right now. I don't trust Dak in, like a big moment.

You know, we can say I do trust Jalen Hurts about that game is the cowboys were 1 YD away.

Big cat.

They were 1 YD they were 1 YD away. I mean, that was a terrible last play they called.

Also, Max going to take a piss right now. The eagles are really good. Yeah, they're very good. They're really fucking good. They're the best team in the NFC by far.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

I think the niners have some big time issues. If you want to talk issues defensively, the niners have a lot of who.

Are the other complete teams in the NFC? The Lions.

Lions. But I would also over them. Got all day raced by the ravens. The eagles are the best team in the NFC. It's not even a question in my mind.

Yep, I agree with that.

Except I wish Max could hear this.

Except to can't wait till we beat.

Them in the playoffs.

Imagine how great that would be.

It's never going to happen. I am going to bet the Eagles to win the super bowl after they lose a couple of these games because they do have a gauntlet and I saw this before the season. I was like seven to one. Makes no sense. Let's wait till they lose a couple of these.

Max is going to hate that. You bet on the eagles.

Yeah. All right. Max is back. Max, we just said a lot of things.

So that's why I think they're so overrated.

Big cat. Right.

I thought you said it was end scene. Also, the eagles are five two and two against the spread.

Okay.

Good.

Above expectations of the spread.

Yeah.

They're better than Vegas.

Max, you have a good team. Be happy with your good team. I can't express that enough to you. Be happy that you have a good team.

Some people are saying best team in the NFC. We're not. Some are.

I don't know what that means.

Okay, you'll figure it out when you listen back to the podcast.

Do you listen when you upload?

No chance to the show. No chance.

Yes, I go back and edit the show.

Oh, yeah.

Okay. Hank. Yeah. Rollback question. Rhoback.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase cues. Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Are the Bengals really fucking good? Because I think they are.

Yes, they are. I would agree with that.

I would like to see them put together maybe four quarters of offense, although they did last week, but they're really fucking good.

The Bengals are for real. They got themselves into a hole at the start of the season. They're out of the hole.

Yeah.

The Bengals, we can now say officially official, out of the hole. Joe Burrow is moving around like he used to. He's using his feet. He had a nasty cut on his finger tonight.

Yeah.

Fingazi. That thing was bleeding so bad, he was just sucking the blood out of it.

They're really good.

Yeah.

They beat the Bills just, like, straight up, just kicked him in the teeth tonight. So if you are a Bengals, doubter if you thought that what you saw in the first couple of weeks is going to be an indication of the nope. Nope. They're back.

Yeah.

And I think the Bills are perfectly middle of the back team.

Yeah.

I don't think they're very good. Yeah, they're not bad. They're just perfectly, like, put them somewhere in that well, I guess they could win the AFC East because they do have the win over the Dolphins.

Yeah.

But I don't know. But maybe they can figure it out defensively and become a team that no one wants to play in the playoffs. But I don't see it. Right.

Don't.

I don't think that the Bills have at all this year at any point deserved of being, like, the juggernauts that.

We thought that they were no.

At the start of the season. Right now, they're just not a very good team. They're not.

And if the playoffs started right now, the Bills would not make the playoffs.

Yeah.

There's not a good they I still think that they have the capability of I'm not going to say flipping the switch. They're not good enough to flip a switch anymore. But they need to round into shape.

The Bills have a tough schedule. The Bills might not make the playoffs.

That would be a shame. I would not like that. I'm not even being sarcastic. No, I think that would be a.

They so they play the Broncos next. They should win that at home. They play the jets, who they always struggle with at home. Then they have to play at Eagles, at Chiefs versus Cowboys, at Chargers. If you want to throw in the Chargers, that's a pretty tough four games.

Yeah.

The bills.

Yeah.

They might be the team that no one wants to play in the playoffs, and that might be their ceiling.

Well, because they're not in the playoffs. Right.

So you wouldn't want to play them.

Because you'd also not be in the playoffs. Right. Okay. So there it is. Bills, the team no one wants to play in the playoffs.

Things got out of hand tonight with the refereeing, with the flag so much. It was so bad. And I hate it when they bring on their referees that are like, in the command center when you get, like, Terry McAuliffe to come out to explain what the refs did wrong, and then they're like, actually, the refs did everything right.

That intentional grounding call was so bad.

Yeah.

The only one with any soul is Dean Blandino.

Yeah.

He'll actually say, yeah, they fucked this one up.

Italian italian guy, he's a real pisan.

But the rest of them, Terry McAuliffe, he's just, you know, chris, to your untrained eye, it might look like an egregiously bad intentional grounding, but I'm here to tell you why it was the right call to make and then I don't really care what you say.

Yeah.

And I hate it.

Dude, the AFC playoffs are going to be awesome. Just looking at it right now, the fact that Bills aren't in the playoffs right now is crazy. And it's going to be like, there are some really fucking good teams in AFC and the Bengals are the 7th seed right now and they're the team no one wants to play.

Yeah, for sure.

They are definitely the team no one wants to play. All right.

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Who's. Back of the week. Hank, you've had enough time to figure it out.

Yeah, my who's back of the week. I have multiple. The first one is the NBA playing tournament.

Yeah. Gross.

Courts.

Courts are disgusting. It's way too early in the season to do know. I knew it was coming, but six games in is way too early. I still don't fully understand the format and the courts are disgust.

It's like group stage where they're now playing for seeding in it. I don't get it that much. I didn't have a problem with the courts, though. It was like, whatever, they were tough. It's a Friday. We got weird courts out there.

They're disgusting.

It was tough to watch.

It looks like a sunbelt. It looks like shitty sunbelt.

Game like niu court felt personal.

Hank, the basketball team.

Yeah.

They're playing against Michigan State tonight.

NBA. Michigan State is going to be good this year. NBA doesn't really start for me till.

That'S what that's kind of what I'm saying. I thought it was going to be like closer then when the tournament would start, get the hype going, but just do it. Six games in really threw me for a loop.

Yeah, it was weird seeing that out of nowhere. I did buy league pass, though. Big step in my life. First time ever purchasing league pass just so I can watch Jordan Poole be the most ridiculous basketball player of all time.

It's the best.

And you get the feed of the Jumbotron Jumbotron and commercials.

Yeah.

Can't beat it. My other who's back. You guys are wearing them? I was wearing them on Thursday. Got Tiffany to wear when we were twinning. Ugly sweaters.

Yeah.

So cute together.

Yeah.

They're on sale today. 20% off.

Yeah, that's a fact.

20% off today. I think it might be a one or two day sale. A bunch of cool ugly sweaters, get them in time for the holidays.

It's a one day sale.

One day sale.

One day. I'm wearing Max right now on my ugly sweater. It says, all I want for Christmas is a win. All I want for Christmas.

Max is mad at us. I can tell. Max is Max. I'm repping. You mad at us.

I'm not mad.

You're mad. You're mad.

Ugly sweaters.

Buy your ugly sweaters.

Kevin James.

Kevin James guy.

I got the Stella blue one coffee. Buy the ugly sweater.

Max, I'm not saying that.

20% off, 24 hours.

I'm not saying that you're ugly. I'm saying that the sweater is ugly even though it just happens to have your face on it.

I didn't even think that until you just said it.

All right, cool. I want to make sure that you weren't thinking that.

Max, don't be mad at us when you listen. Back when you went the bathroom, he said some nice things about the Eagles.

Yeah.

I think you said bad things.

No, he actually good things.

Reverse it on you old switcheroo.

Now. I don't know if you're reversing it on me now.

Just listen.

Yeah, all right.

Thank you, Jake.

It was bad.

He would never who am I going to draw?

The angel and the demon on your.

Shoulder is Jake and memes. I wonder which one's telling the truth.

Yeah. All right.

50 who's your who's back?

My who's back of the week is Uganda.

Yeah.

So Donnie and Billy are overseas in Uganda right now. Billy, to some extent, I don't know, is coaching the Uganda national football team. Well, he's doing so in a boot because he broke his foot in a pickup basketball game before he left.

And I read Billy's pre draft analysis of Will Levis.

So he knows on he's dead on target with what he said about Will Levis. Don't let the haters fool you.

They are going to be over there.

I think the game is next Sunday, and it's Uganda against Kenya. Last time those two countries played throughout the record books, I think Uganda lost six to nothing. So Billy's installing some new offensive plays. They're bringing part of my cheesesteak over there. I was talking to Donnie earlier in the week, and I was like, you guys have to figure out some sort of like a turnover chain theme thing for them. If they make a good play, they should get to do something cool on the sidelines. They came up with the turnover steak because it's part of my cheesesteak, where they're going to put a steak in the ground and the player is going to get to use a sledgehammer and pound into the ground.

Love it.

When they get a turnover, someone's going to get injured. Someone. Probably Billy, I would imagine. But I'm very much looking forward to the content that Donnie and Billy have over there because it's going to be incredible. We worked on their playbook, too. Billy's got all sorts of ideas that he's going to try to implement in one day. And I feel bad for the quarterback who has a great name. What's that guy's name again? I'm going to look it up. But yeah, Billy's going to try to coach this guy up in about, like, 8 hours and tell him all the things to do.

Yeah, we'll let Donnie I don't know when the graphics coming out, but it's one of the funniest graphics I've ever it's it's Billy and on in the ground in Africa coaching football on the name of cheesesteaks.

I'm excited.

In the ground, boots on the ground in Africa, literally on the name of cheesesteaks. And that's truly what it's all about, cheesesteaks and football.

Yeah.

I think that's why this podcast started.

This guy's name is something like Grow the Game. It's something like William Twist or something, although a cooler name than that. I know his last name is Twist. Who's the quarterback for Uganda. Pretty cool name.

Love it. Love it. I can't wait to watch this. All right, my who's back. I have two college basketballs back.

Yes.

Monday, there's like 100 games. I've already made like 20 bets.

113 D one versus D one games.

Love it. Sick. Love it. And I'm going to make a ton of bets. And this is one of my favorite times of year right around Thanksgiving when we start watching college basketball in the middle of the day. So college basketball is back. Also, the new office is back because we're going to unveil it. 10:00 a.m central. So 11:00 a.m Eastern on the Viva stool.

YouTube.

YouTube. So we have held this back. Everyone did a really good job of not showing videos, mostly. Agreed. And so we are going to pass inspection. Yeah, we just passed inspection. We're going to show everyone the office, everything that's involved, and then we're going to start I think the first official new stream is going to be Thursday afternoon. We're going to play dodgeball with the whole office. Will and Taylor will be here as well.

It's going to be great.

Hank's got the four team dodgeball tournament.

Hank's got the golf simulator up and running, and he's spending all of his time there for content.

For content. We haven't been on a stream yet.

It is actually incredible. I love the golf simulator.

Everything's incredible. And then I think Friday we're going to follow it up with a whiffleball home Run Derby.

Yeah, it's exciting. Finally, day has finally come.

Yeah, people.

Stool YouTube for the office stuff. That will be the Vlogs behind the scenes day to day interaction. Stool streams back. That will be where all the athletic activities in sports go on that channel.

Tune in, stay pumped, pumped, pumped for everyone to see. I all business. Pete did a good job.

Great job.

Yeah.

Parking lot.

Good job. Let's not get him too hyped. He did a good job, but yeah, it's going to be awesome.

I'll say this, the Internet works.

The Internet works.

If you want to get excited about one thing in this new office, is that the WiFi is good.

He did it, and he gave us a walk in freezer, which I think is something that he's keeping when the Internet breaks.

It's a cooler.

Cooler. It's a freezer cooler.

That's a cooler. I think it's, like, above freezing in there. It's cold enough. Where all business. Pete could put a dead body in.

There if he had to, but I think what he's going to do is the Internet's going to break. He's like, But I got you that freezer.

Yeah.

The real question is, who will the first significant injury.

It I went to the doctor on Friday. Question has to be asked for my Evan injury. So when pug got me in my ribs, I thought it was fractured because I heard, like, a pop. Went to the doctor, gave me an X ray. No fracture, but they said separated cartilage.

Damn. So no dog. And there wasn't a dog?

No, there was no dog. The official diagnosis was, you're a bitch. Sir, please leave. Please leave urgent care immediately.

Yeah.

Okay. So, yeah, get excited for that. We're very excited, obviously. It's been a weird 24 hours.

Stream coming, too. Probably next couple of weeks.

Yeah, it's been a weird six months or whatever, this entire transition process, but we're finally it's like when we unveil it on Monday, ten Central, eleven Eastern, it's all systems go, and we're ready to go. And we appreciate everyone bearing with us through all of it. We're very excited. It's going to be incredible for everyone. Okay, Jake, finish us off. Also, Max, stop being mad at us.

My who's back of the week is the DC Pickleball team.

Yeah.

Champions of MLP Dallas Tournament.

We did it. Oh, wait, it's not the whole league.

No, it's a tournament. Oh, tournament, though. Yeah, we won a tournament.

What?

How many teams?

There was 24.

They were drinking Stella blue coffee. Ice cold brew coffee. Cold brew coffee afterwards.

Thank you. To them.

So shout out DC Pickleball.

Huge win. Huge.

And, yeah, first of many.

Yes.

It was revenge, too, because they lost to Orlando Squeeze in September.

I hate the Orlando in Atlanta.

And then they faced off again in the championship.

I fucking hate the Orlando.

And we beat them three nil in the championship game.

Fuck yes.

Statement went.

If I meet someone on the street and they're like, I'm an Orlando Squeeze guy, I'm like, spit on them.

Yeah.

We got to do it. I said it when I was at the me and Jerry stayed in and watched wrestling practice at Wisconsin for, like, an hour and a half a couple of weekends ago, and the coach was talking about coming. I was like, yeah, we should host a regional. I'm just kind of obsessed with trying to host events at the office, but official pickleball, sanctioned match would be great.

Would be incredible.

Can you do that on hardwood?

I don't I'm yeah, I think if.

We put a mat to host I want to host a basketball team. College or NBA to come. Just do a practice college team. Maybe danny Hurley. We should do a dunk play to Paul.

Like, host a dunk contest.

Also, the hoops are ten five.

We got to fix that.

Are they for real?

Yeah.

How can we fix that?

We got to get the guy to come and lower him.

But yeah, okay. I couldn't touch them. That's how I know.

That's why my shot's been off.

Yeah, okay.

Except when I played you, I beat Hank seven to nothing in one on one today.

Is that true?

Yep. Yeah.

I was, what, seven nothing? Hank.

It was winners. I literally didn't not I didn't miss.

We also got to do, like, we've talked about this, but Shane is in this room, and other people just no respect for the ground rules of shooting around.

Oh, yeah. People who don't give change are scumbags, low lifes and pieces of shit. I put them next to Orange Squeeze fans.

Orlando Squeeze. Orlando Squeeze.

What I say?

Orange. Same thing.

Yeah, there should be ground rules. If it's a layup, obviously you don't get your change for that. But anything outside the key, right?

You miss a shot, and then you get a layup, and then you give the ball back.

Yeah.

People are just taking balls and shooting them. It's anarchy out there.

Except there's been times, and I will continue to do this I specifically say, hey, can you rebound for me real quick? Halftime of a game? And I'll just get, like, ten threes up, and then I'll say, thank you.

That's fair.

Yeah.

If someone asks me, can you rebound for me real quick? I'll do it.

What I'm looking forward to the most about this court is seeing how there's going to be some surprises in how shockingly unathletic certain people that work here are.

Yeah, that's the fun of it.

It's the best.

People are going to be like, oh, I thought this is Barcelona sports. Yeah, we're all regular guys. Except Titus is really fucking good. All right. Good show, boys. Good show. We are. Officially halfway through the NFL season.

I hate that.

I'm okay with it. I feel like we're chugging along. Hank, have you ever gotten this? No. That's too bad. Have you numbers 20, 118, 23. What was your number?

21.

Why'd you change from 31?

I got a reason.

Someone gave you the number. Someone gave me a number yesterday too.

Is the number real? The person who gave it to you?

What?

We're about to find out.

18.

Or is the number not fucking real?

We're about to find out.

Shane? 1020, 118. 2010 for Shane Pug. 22. 22. And then what was your memes? Three. Memes has never gotten it in any form or fashion.

That's a fact.

I'm going to get it. 55. Who's going to be the first to get it? It's going to be an electric moment.

It sure will be.

55. Do one more because it's a long show.

Why not?

Yeah, let's do one more. Official everyone has to stick with their numbers, okay? Fair.

Yeah.

Official. This counts.

Can we repeat numbers 1717 for bigcott eight.

PFT.

Oh, I didn't even realize.

Hank?

21.

I'm wearing a 21 savage shirt.

Oh, wow. Jkteen.

Max, 20. Memes, three. Evan, 22.

Shane.

Shane is ten.

Shane ten.

Do something for me.

Go. This one counts. This one counts. Three.

Three.

Fuck me.

I thought that was a five.

Looks like a two from back here.

Love you guys.

Talking away I don't know after day I say anyway today is on my day to find you? Shine away I'm coming for your love of grace? Shine away I'm coming for your love of grace only it's only stay out to me like the better to be taking the summer? Stay out to me like the better to be ready to come say just to play my worry you all think I've got to remember? Shine away love coming with me like shine away I'll come take on.