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On today's part of my take, we have an awesome, awesome interview with Robert Iler, you probably know him as AJ Soprano. Really cool story. You probably wondering where he's been. Well, he's got a podcast. He was a professional poker player for a while, and he's a very cool guy. So we talk a little soprano's. We get in depth, maybe some spoilers, his acting career, what he did post Poker World.

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It's an awesome, awesome interview, kind of out of left field. But he is a big fan of Basel in us, so he knows us. And it was really, really fun. We also have weekend preview, NFL Week nine coming up, a nice slate, a nice slate coming up for NFL Week nine, we have fantasy fuck boys.

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And then we finish up with Fire Fest of the Week before we get to all that part.

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The ASPCA today is Friday, November 6th.

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And the forty Niners had a lot of injuries. OK, guys, like what do you want them to do. That wasn't a real win. The 49ers had a lot of injuries. That game sucked. America lost. It felt like a preseason game. Did it really. It felt like week four of the preseason and you're like yelling at Matt LaFleur for having Aaron Rodgers out there needlessly. Aaron Rodgers, need this would have been the perfect time for Jordan.

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Love to get out there, get some reps in my conspiracy theories. Tinfoil hat says Aaron Rodgers put the kibosh on that. Yeah, we even see the field. We had a moment. It was the River Chris-Craft moment where we thought the 49ers were going to tie it up seven seven. And the and the nation held their breath, waiting in suspense, hoping that we'd have a touchdown and a decent Thursday night football game. It got overturned and it was never the same sentence from that point forward.

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It was just terrible game. Mullins turns out maybe not so good. Still like them, still think he's a good dude. Still would probably take him on the bears. No questions asked, but yeah. Aaron Rodgers, Packers. I'll say this, though, and people are say I'm nit picking, I think, Aaron. Aaron Rodgers look a little tired. I think he needs a little sleep. I think he's got a little bags under his eyes.

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Maybe he needs to smile a little bit more.

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I think he's been up watching cable news. That's my thing. To taking too close of notice to politics. I want to quarterback that doesn't know what a television is. Yeah. Rogers, he he also shaved. I don't know if you noticed that he's like little baby face out there. I'm not really one to talk about that facial hair, but I don't know Aaron Rodgers, he had like a beard mustache thing going for the last three years. Now, all of a sudden, he decides to go clean shaven.

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Sounds like, you know, it's like when Britney Spears shaved her head when she was having a nervous breakdown. Some people do that. They just say, you know what, I'm going to cut my banks. Marcia Clark did it in the O.J. trial. Is Rodgers going through a mental crisis right now or did you just lose to Kirk Cousins?

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So, yeah, this game sucked and I was promised some Kevin White. Kevin White never really appeared. They're limiting his snap count for some reason. I don't understand it.

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Well, he's also he's been on the practice squad letting him develop a little bit. Yeah, he's getting some reps. But yeah, it was all in all a terrible game. Just just this this actually, you know what? We need the wake up call like, hey, remember remember when Thursday Night Football everyone complained about Thursday Night Football.

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This was a throwback to that because we've had a few good Thursday Night Football games, even when the Jets played on Thursday Night Football is kind of entertaining. But now we have a throwback and the and the Packers are back to like good status, better than good status. But I don't know how much you can take away from a game where the forty Niners were playing like everyone from their practice squad and and then some river cray cray craft, which is a made up name.

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Well, that's a name that I would think of. If I'm like imagining a football game in a dream, I would be like, oh yeah. River Chris-Craft went out there and threw for four hundred yards and five toters. Pretty sick. Yeah. I had them on my bench. Yeah. It's like, it's like a jibberish name. It's a name that you hear and you're like, wait, what did you just say, Reggie Craig Crawford.

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Would you say that's what it is. Yes. So yeah when you hear Green he sounds like a good guy.

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Like with a name like River Chris-Craft it sounds like solid hang a guy that probably come over, play some poker.

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Not too much. He he looked like a river choreographs too. I had no idea what a river Chris-Craft would look like. But then I saw him and I was like, that makes sense. That's yeah. That's the guy.

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River choreographs. Billy, had any thoughts on the game tonight? You you're very close to the camera. I kind of like it.

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It's like you're like a cam boy. And his mikes off, so that was really starts on C.J. CCJ, bastard gets in because he's pretty electric.

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Yeah, I mean, for sure.

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I think the four days in Iowa, I mean, he beat Michigan in that, like, crazy game. Like, I just detect up to 50 yards when they put him in at the end of the other game.

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That was the game that our friend Trent in New York City. Yeah. No, yeah, yeah. I do want to give a shout out to Greg Kittel.

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He's saying that, like, Greg does not pay attention to doctors. He does not care if you have a white lab coat or initials after your name or even if you went to college, they tell him you're going to be out for eight weeks. And Greg's like, yeah, it's going to be to just make it make it two weeks for my foot. It'll be fine. Trust me. You know what I believe? I believe him. I believe they believe to be two weeks max.

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I think I think he's going to be catching touchdowns on the weekend of Thanksgiving. Yes, absolutely.

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So we actually made we're recording this right now on Zoome. We have the rest of the show in person. We made the actually genius decision to all go home and do the first five minutes after the game. That was genius because this is one of those games that if we had stayed at the office till eleven thirty at night, we would have felt like such assholes watching this take place. So let's do it like yell at each other.

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We probably would have had to order two dinners just to keep ourselves occupied. Right. So should we get those. Should we do it. You do. The weekend previous we got weekend preview coming up. We got fantasy fuck boys. We got AJ Soprano. We got a hilarious fire fest where we get into some weird shit, awesome stuff coming up and it's all in person. Should we do it?

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Let's do it. How we feeling? I like this car.

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It's not bad. We've got a couple a couple of games of the week I like. I'm interested to see what happens in Seattle, Buffalo, Seattle.

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Buffalo is going to be great. We also have that Saturday night Notre Dame Clemson game, which I'm just adding to the week nine card.

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That's just extra bonus. Yeah, that's a bonus NFL game, but it is a good weekend. We got a couple of games at one o'clock, a couple of games for clock cardinals and dolphins are going to be not it's not primetime, but it's that should be the game that everyone's going to be like, oh, let's watch this at four o'clock.

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You know what, though, for some reason I'm thinking ahead to like seven thirty pm on Sunday. And whichever team loses that game, I'm going to like right off in my head as not being for real. Yes. Even though absolutely. I think both teams are they're both pretty good.

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Decent ish. Yeah. Playoff capable. Yeah.

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Capable of possibly going to the playoffs. All right. So let's start, we'll start. We're going to go through every game. Quick hitters, Broncos, Falcons drew lock can bounce back from an unbelievable win. That's really that's really what defines if you're a good franchise quarterback, can the highs can you come back from the highs and the lows because that was a high.

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I've updated the drew oximeter again midweek. This time, Drew Lock has now advanced to a guy that can win you a game so we can win with Drooly. OK, yeah, we can win. Would you lock Whoknows with the Falcons?

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The Falcons, they're going to do what they did last year, which they are very capable of doing just because they have still have talent. Now would be the time. And by that I mean win a bunch of meaningless games when they're already out of it to screw up the draft pick.

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Yeah, because that's really like the full Falcons sadness. Is that where it's your bad? But then you get a little bit good so that you can't be really, really bad.

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You're never bad enough to be good. If you want to be good eventually in the NFL, you have to be bad. Right. That's what Hank is telling himself, that he's going through the Patriots right now. Right. This is there actually this is the Patriots best season because they're getting great. Yeah. The long term by being so bad.

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Remember, it's Bill Belichick, the best coaching job it is. And also I've heard this like take start to percolate behind the scenes a little bit, that Belichick knew that this season was going to be a garbage season that was going to get thrown away by the history books and forgotten as being like a fake season. Yeah. So he knew that six months ago. And so he's planned accordingly.

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And Tank, he's been taking on purpose this entire time. And Keyshawn Johnson throughout the idea that the Jets would trade the first pick to the Patriots for Trevor like so they could draft Trevor Lawrence. That was Keyshawn. Big take this week, which yeah, I don't know. It was it was basically like they love Sam Donald. They're going to trade Trevor Lawrence. All I took away from the take from Keyshawn. And this is a place as someone who struggles with his weight, you never want to be in going viral with your face looking fat because Keyshawn, your face was looking fat.

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Yeah. And that sucks because I saw it and I was like, whoa, Keyshawn needs a bucket of ice. Like, he needs to put his face in some ice water.

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Right now, it looks like he got stung by a bunch of murder hornets. So he. Yeah, he's always that kind of a fat face, though. Yeah, the problem with Keshawn is sometimes when he gets a little on the chubbier side, his cheeks migrate down to his neck. Yeah. So his neck gets cheeks and jowls on the side of it.

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Well, then that makes you just look it looks like you're squeezing like a bunch of like a flesh colored toothpaste out of a tube.

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And this is why being a professional athlete is overrated, because eventually you won't be a professional athlete and you'll probably gain a little weight and everyone be like, oh, you look fat even though he's not fat, but he's fat in comparison to a professional athlete. So that's why I never went pro. Yeah, exactly. Just a smart move on all your life.

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So no one will be like, oh, you look fat. I want to back up real quick. You said that the Jets you said that he said that the Jets are going to trade number one pick. Yeah. To the Patriots. I would appreciate that. Just for like for safekeeping. Old time's sake. I just don't want to see the Jets screw up another really good player just right.

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When the Jets are about to take a step forward, they make sure that the Patriots take two steps forward.

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Well, yeah, I'm going there. If you don't have your shit together in life, now's not the time to be going out and adopting the cutest puppy in the world. Right.

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I'd rather see home that puppy to your you're more stable neighbors right now. Like if you're smoking meth in your garage, give it to your neighbors that at least have a full time job.

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And Joe Douglas, now we're just talking too much, Jets', because they're playing Monday Night Football. But Joe Douglas did say that Adam Gates is safe. I think they should extend him.

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Well, no, Joe Douglas has figured out I mean, we've touched on this, but he has realized that keeping Adam case is the smartest thing you can do is GM, because, one, he's torturing him and no one likes Adam case. I can tell you, I've never met the guy, but I can tell you no one likes him. And to it, actually, Adam Gates is your tank like he is your tank, but not tanking.

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You can't be accused of tanking, but you are tanking when you have Adam Gates there. He's basically Cameron. He's the Cameron Payne of the NFL. You just throw them out there and let him do his thing and. Well, at least we tried. No, you didn't try. You had Adam Gates is your coach. Yeah, I think that the Jets should extend him. I think I think you got to bring Adam Gates back for at least one more year, maybe two.

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Yup.

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All right. Seahawks' bills. This is a game we talked about. That's going to be a great one o'clock game. I want to squat on a take a pre take. So Carlos Dunlap traded to the Seahawks. Jamal Adams is going to be back. I think that the Seahawks defense is going to start turning a corner here, playing well, and it's going to take a little bit of time for people to catch up to it. But like in like three or four weeks, we're going to be sitting here being like, you know, who's really playing well, the Seahawks defense.

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I think that if the Seahawks can get out to an early lead, they could. That's a team that can still get after the quarterback. I think if they know that you're going to be passing the ball, well, someone should help.

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And Jamal Adams definitely will help because he's one of the best teams in the league. But I, I just think that this in complementary football is important, that the Seahawks offense is so good. It put pressure on, you know, the other team's offense to try to score points all the time. So I, I just feel it's going to happen and there's going to be a perception out there. The Seahawks defense sucks in like five weeks, even though they won't suck anymore.

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But this game, to me, this is a big test for the bills because the bills let's be honest, we love Josh Allen. We love Bills Mafia. Any Bills fan would tell you they have not looked good. They have not looked good like they've they've looked OK. They you know, even they beat the Patriots by three. That wasn't a unbelievable win. They beat the Jets by eight after not being able to get in the Reds, you know, kicking field goals instead of touchdowns they lost to the chiefs.

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They lost to who else? The Titans, no. Yeah, the Titans. So there are two and two in their last four in the two wins have not been like, oh, man, the bills look like they did in September. So this is a chance for them to maybe recapture that by having a big win if they can get it done.

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Are you for real game for both sides? And I think that I'm very excited to watch Josh Allen play against Seattle, because what often gets overlooked is in order for Seattle to play in these most fucked up games that are like extremely exciting, that always come down to the wire, have incredible plays in them. There's two sides of that coin. Other teams have to kind of match the Seahawks level of insanity. I'm very, very excited to see how Josh Allen is going to step up to the plate.

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Yeah. And do something weird, exciting, maybe fucked up. So maybe awesome. Who knows? Definitely awesome. Definitely awesome. He's going to try to do something awesome. Yes. And something crazy is going to happen from Josh Allen's feet or hands in this game because it is against the Seahawks. And by law, you have to do something and he's going to, like, accidentally throw a pass off his dick and convert it for a first down done.

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Something like that is going to happen this weekend.

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I could not be more excited to watch a little stat for you to the Seahawks have the best record going west to east in the last three years. So they're nine and nonono going west to east. It's tough to go west.

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It's tough to go west. Well, Marshawn Lynch, revenge game, right? Yeah. Marshawn Lynch thinking that Buffalo is in New York City all time press conference if you've never seen it. Yeah. And then he got off the plane and there was snow and he was like, what the fuck is.

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If I got myself into it. Yeah, it sucks, it's going to be 60 degrees and sunny in Buffalo this weekend. Yeah, but points but points. Points, bears, titans, bears got the cocoa. So that sucks. Also the bears I have I have now just tweeted this name a couple of times just randomly with nothing else attached to it because it just makes me laugh. But the bears are potentially starting an offensive lineman named Arlington Ham, right?

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Mm hmm. So we are the bears are now at the like season 15 of their Madden franchise. And we're just creating players out of nothing and slapping like the the faceless logo on them being like, here's Arlington Ham.

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He's got a smooth head. Yeah. Just like no eyebrows whatsoever. Just flat cheeks. I am squatting on this take. I think that I think Ryan Tannehill still thinks it's crazy to be still standing.

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So I have I think Ryan hit Ryan Tannehill still stinks. I don't have anything beyond my eyes that tell me that he's still there is nothing about my guts. Right. It's my guts that are telling me that he still stinks. I just I still don't trust him. I've never trusted Ryan Tannehill. And I think that he's been like, really, really good for the last year.

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Yeah, I he's been great. You know how good he's been. Great.

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Don't get me wrong, Ryan Tannehill is a great quarterback, but I still think that he stinks in the so the last year and a half abberation Tannehill came in since Ryan Tannehill became good.

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He is he's just been delaying this thinking he is second in offensive passing efficiency only behind Patrick Mahomes and he is second in completion percentage over expected only behind Russell Wilson. Those are two best quarterbacks. Those are too many numbers. Percentage completion over expected. Yeah, I don't know. That's the number. Is there like a guy in a room that's like I expect him to make this throw. He did.

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I do not expect to see Drew Brees stat because as Drew Brees just throws it four, four, three yards. So so it takes into account. Yeah. Yeah. So another one also er yards I think so. In other words he passes the ball to his receivers. Good.

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And then they immediately get to. He's really good is what the answer is, their defense sucks.

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And so the only thing that makes me feel a little OK going into this game is that if the Titans defense can't get a sack on the Bengals, maybe Arlington handbrake won't be so bad. OK, maybe OK. And that is how I have sold myself on this. What position does he play? He's he's I think he's a guard.

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Maybe a tackle. If he's a guard, that's OK because you can give him help. Yeah. Count on Matt Nagy to really get the production protection schemes together for for Arlington.

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Handbury The problem is the entire offensive line is basically hurt or has the cocoa.

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So it's it's going to be a bad scene. It's going to be a bad scene.

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I don't really know. He's a tackle. I think he's the right tackle. So yeah, that's going to be I don't know. And so the other stat I had was Matt Nagy can't figure out his play calling because he is like top of the league in passing and first down, which is, as Warren Sharpe always tells us, is smart. And then he is like the the worst at throwing on second and third down. So he basically is smart on first down.

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And then he's like, oh, I did my pass, let me be stupid.

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Now let's go back to the run.

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So he probably he runs the share of the ball on second down after they have an incomplete shot first I think what would I think we're finding out about Matt Nagy, the play caller is he is essentially our level of intelligence when it comes to understanding analytics. So we take away whenever we have like Warren Sharp on, he gives us a bunch of information and we take away like one or two things. Twelve personnel is one running back to tight ends. Right.

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Or pass on first down. That's good all the time. That's right. He's on pass on first downs. Good. What's next. OK, I've done it. Yeah. Can we just get to another first down so I could pass again. And then I've checked my box of analytics.

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I just can't wait to be vindicated on the fact that Ryan Tannehill eventually will. Oh yes.

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Eventually yes. He's going to like he's going to get old. Yeah. And then I'll be right now. He's been good though. Ravens. Colts.

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Don't get me wrong, I agree. Ryan Tannehill has been good, but I still think he stinks.

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Yeah, but that's the problem with the kindly upon the.

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All right. Ravens. Colts, I don't know. I mean, the Ravens should win this game. They have a bunch of injuries.

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Marlon Humphrey, he he tweeted, he announced his coronaviruses and I got the wrona, which I like that kind of take it away from Schefter and Schefter. Can we just talk for a second that like Schefter and Rappoport and all these these these reporters are basically getting free tweets and likes from coronavirus news.

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It's bullshit when they do the tweet every Sunday morning, like no new tech, no new positives. I see what you're doing. You're you are benefiting off coronavirus.

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Yeah. He's a war profiteer. That's exactly because her blood tweet and listen, it's not just one tweet on Sunday morning. No. Like, Schefter is not afraid to go through a team by team. Right. Being like, remember that guy that I told you got put on the covid list on Wednesday? Yep. Still. Yes, weekend, like I told you, it's actually tweeting, I love football every time, which, you know, we've we've we do that every now and then, which is.

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Oh, but I just do it because I love football. But we also know that it will do numbers. But he does it every time, every Sunday because he just knows I got the numbers when I wake up in the morning on Sunday. I tweet out the picture of the new 20/20 NFL officially approved league ball. I do that because I'm genuinely excited. Siloam, I tell. Absolutely. Adam Schefter. Yeah, you're right. He just I think he makes extra calls to figure out the cocoa numbers taken advantage.

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Yeah, I don't like it. All right. But the league office have we heard has has the league office been clean on cocoa numbers or as described by Roger Goodell is going to report or anything like that?

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Come on. Keeping that in-house. Yeah.

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And Panthers, Panthers, the chiefs chiefs are going to win. Yep. I mean, I don't the Panthers had a nice moment. We gave them their love.

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You go back to like week five or six. We gave Teddy Bridgewater is love, who we still respect, we still respect.

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But I feel like the air has come out of the balloon a little bit with the Panthers season where it's like, oh, maybe they maybe they were playing well, they're playing nice and yeah, maybe they're not so good.

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What's the problem with having a new coach who needs to rebuild basically the entire roster besides Christian McCaffrey might be back, who might be back.

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But but this is the problem with bringing in a competent new head coach is that you're not going to be bad enough to get good like we were talking about earlier. Matt, rules, since there's no like there's no tape really on what he's going to do as an NFL head coach. And most NFL coaches are too dumb to go back and look at the body of evidence that you have on that rule from college. Right. But there's not enough tape for them to get to get really acclimated to him.

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So he's going to be a decent head coach and they're going to have like a six and ten record, eight and eight record in his first year. And then he's kind of going to screw himself over for the long term rebuild. Right.

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And by the way, our theory that when a good player goes out or is traded, the team does better. I think we call it the Christian doctrine. It actually was confirmed by I can't remember where I saw it was a couple of weeks ago, but some someone who played in the league confirmed it was like, yeah, it's true, because when a defense plans and, you know, Christian McCaffrey is out there, you know, he's going to touch the ball like half the time when he's not you don't know where the ball's going.

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So, you know, it's still hard. But, yeah, we're smart. Had our fingers. The price is wrong. I was actually talking to somebody that runs closely in NBA circles the other day, and he was saying that you can actually go back. You can just say LeBron. He was listening to our show and he said, you know what? That made me think of back on the 90s, Knicks, when they lost Patrick Ewing, they got.

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And he's like, that's incredible that you were able to kind of deduce that from Christian McCaffrey, now he's like going back and applying it to all sorts of sports from the 90s. He even made like a couple A.D. New Kids on the Block references, Teen Wolf references here about how that can be applied even to things outside of sports. I think about that. Yeah, that's smart.

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All right. Lions Vikings Matt Ryan or sorry, Matt Stafford has the cocoa. Maybe so he might be out. And this is actually so I've been talking up the lions, little itty bitty baby run. I actually think that this is too little itty bitty baby runs converging here and whoever wins will be the champion of the little bitty itty baby run guys.

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I mean, this is this is tailor made for Kirk Cousins. Not only is it against the Lions, right? It's at home. Right. It's at one o'clock on a Sunday and Crede is reuniting. So he is going to be fucking pumped up this weekend for touchdowns. Two hundred eighty yards for Kirk Cousins, the Sunday and the Vikings.

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So they play the Bears next Monday night. Obviously, I'm going to say that's a loss for them. But the next three games after that, Cowboys, Panthers, Jaguars, all at home.

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So the Vikings might be our little bitty bitty baby run team.

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Did was I premature to dungen them in the preseason? No, I just think one of the winner of this team will come away with the late November, early December. Watch out for this team. They're a team that you don't want to play if you're gearing up for a playoff. Right.

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We I hope I think we're going to get Chase Daniel on Sunday, which it's just fun to remind everyone that Daniel has seven touchdown passes in the NFL. He's been in the league for eleven years and he's made thirty seven million dollars. King the finesse God.

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And he's also the only quarterback that has a complete sentence for a name.

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Right, exactly. But he is the he's got our four mascot giants. Washington football team. Yeah.

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This is Washington football team's itty bitty baby run. They have a one week itty bitty baby run coming up. So it's right now.

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Have you seen this? It was either a tweet or a graphic that was going around that essentially was like Daniel Jones, Jamarcus Russell or the same player in terms of turnovers. And everyone's like, look at how biased the media is being, like not giving Daniel Jones the same shit. And now there is bias in the media. And if you want to claim, you know, racial bias in terms of quarterbacks, I would agree with you.

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But in this case, are people forgetting that when Daniel Jones was drafted, we all shit on him like he's been shit on since day one? Jamarcus Russell was the number one pick overall and supposed to be incredible and ended up being bad. Yeah, I don't think anyone thought besides David Gettleman that Daniel Jones is going to be incredible.

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Yeah, he had that comeback against the Bucs. It scared me for a while. I have not heard that take.

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That is it does not seem to be going around. Yeah. He needs to put on. I would actually like Daniel Jones a lot if you put on a shitload of weight. Do you know he put on like a solid fifty pounds around the midsection, fat in that face out a little bit. I think you find a lot more people willing to root for him.

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Do you know what that take has been the phrase? I think it's bring that same energy, OK, bring that same energy. When talking about Daniel Jones, I will bring you know what I want. I will bring that exact same energy starting this weekend. Daniel Jones, I'm going to run with that. But is his Jamarcus Russell two point. Oh, yeah.

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Anyone I do not remember the Giants fans losing their mind when they drafted him and the gentlemen drafted a guy from Duke who he probably could have gotten like twenty picks later.

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We all shit on it. Also, you can say that there are racial implications. I'll let somebody else have that discussion. I'm just going to say that, like, straight up Daniel Jones is the least Louisiana person in the world. Yes. You will find nobody less fewer Louisiana than Daniel Jones's swag is no swag. Yeah, dangerous. You go to bed at 10:00 on Mardi Gras if you is visiting New Orleans. Absolutely. Yes. He'd be like, I've had enough.

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No more hurricanes are Texans jaguars. Jake Loten, baby. Yeah.

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Jake, is it Lutton or Lutin? I don't know. I'm saying because I was going to say gluten free. Let's get that behind it.

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Jake, I love what Doug doing here. Did you see the quotes? Doug Cameron? Essentially, I'm paraphrasing our friend Doug Marone essentially was like, I'm getting fired. I don't care. Let's see what the kids got. We know what McLennon is. He sucks. Let's see what this kid's got. I fucking love it because that is the way like Doug Cameron is going out, the way that every coach should go out and not, like, scared and like, hey, let's have Mike Glenn and go out there and punt the ball fifteen times.

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No, let's see if this fucking kid from Oregon State can do anything. Probably can't. But if you can, why not?

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So when they had that conversation last year after Doug Baroon got fired, cried, kept his job in that room, do you think the deal was made like Doug? We will keep you around. For another year so that we can get a great head coach to replace you, knowing that we're going to have a high draft pick and be in a good spot for rebuilding, and Doug was just basically like, I will be your bitch next to that dude.

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I'll do it. I will be I'll be your simp. I'll be the one. I'll be the dude on the sidelines that looks like he's coaching. But we have a handshake arrangement that we're going to take next year. And as long as those checks keep cash and I still have a job, I will be your guy because he's just a fucking good ass do.

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Yeah, I do. Doug Cameron is a he's just a good friend to have.

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I'm sure that the Jags front office like him as a person. Yup. And so, yeah, more power to him if that's what he's doing. Jake Lutton, I'm ten Luton, Luton, Luton clan.

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A little fuckwit.

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That's TTN is the pronunciation. Lutie Yeah. Luton clan.

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I like that in Luton. London. I like London. He's a he's a glutton for punishment. I think if he plays well that's a lot. Yeah. If he's stinky then he's Luton. Luton but yeah. Well let's give a shot. But I do I miss seeing Glenanne in his neck.

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Just barbel out there in a game. I played one of those a year.

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How much is it sucked. We might get it for, for Doug Cameron to be like yeah he actually said it's like we know what McLennon is and he sucks.

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How much money did the bears give him? A lot. I was it was like twenty million I think, but not all guaranteed. I, I've said it before but I, I was all there was a month to month time where I was all in on my club all, all in.

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I remember vividly listening to the Cubs game on the radio when McLennan threw out the first pitch and like went up to the booth for an inning to just talk. And I was like, this guy, this is our guy.

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He's got this is our guy. He stands tall million one hundred eighty seven thousand five hundred dollars.

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No, no, no. Not for the Bears. Oh, McLennon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They gave him over the bear. Yeah.

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They backed up, they gave like twenty million, two years, something like that for forty five million.

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Oh wow. But how much do they end up paying him. Website on Spode track. Yeah, it should say what they ended up paying, obviously signing bonus average salary guarantee that sign, total guarantee what was is guaranteed at Sonatine five. So that's what it was.

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What do you think? Mike Glennon spent his signing bonus on, like the big purchase that he made with his? Like, I finally made it.

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I feel like maybe someone just sit on his head so his neck got smaller. Yeah, I was gonna say, fat man, I you say reupholstered a couch. I got a really nice fabric on you. Just given a guy like that.

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18 million dollars. It's a nice tool shed. Yeah.

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Somebody who's going to blow it on something entertaining. Like Chase Daniel. Like Chase Daniel. Yeah. All right. Well, I had one question here. When I saw Jake Lutyens name Lutton, it made me think.

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Did Sam Bradford just fall off a cliff? This feels like the perfect landing, somebody should have given Bradford 15 million dollars. You know, I think he's retired.

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His, like, ended. Yes. Yeah. Yes, it expired. Yeah. But forever a legend. He had that record at least in percentage. All right. We still don't know who won that trade.

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Yeah, no, we'll be debating that one for you. We don't. Raiders, Chargers. This game is going to be fun. That's all I got. This game will be fun. I'm excited for this game. Yes. Got chaos written all over it. Both these teams, a late afternoon Raiders Chargers game has to get weird. It just has to. Yeah, we will tune in. It will be like six forty five and something weird is going to be happening.

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The late slate isn't great.

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So Miami, Arizona is going to be interesting.

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Well here's and we'll go to the next game. The late Slate is doing NFL loves to do this where no matter how good or bad the national teams are, quote unquote, they're like, let's throw them together. Steelers, Cowboys, throw them together. Yeah, people will watch, you know what? And people will watch because its colors, its history, its everything and it sucks. This game sucks.

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I will watch just because I'm very excited to see Dallas lose by forty five points.

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Well I got a little stat for you. I don't think they're going to lose by forty five. They're not starting Binda Neutrino. They're starting Cooper Rush action baby. Central Michigan, Bahamas Bowl. So I had a little thought in my head. I was like, I feel like Mike Tomlin is a big time plates your competition coach and looked it up over last year, his entire career as a Steelers head coach. He is one and nine against the spread as a road favorite over ten points.

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What are the cowboys against the spread, though?

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Aren't they like? Oh, in their own way. They would actually break the record if they go. Oh, none. So it's like the unstoppable force versus the immovable object.

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The opposite. Yeah, they're very movable object. Yes. The continuously moving force. Right.

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So I just know that if if this game, the Steelers are going to win, but if this game is weirdly close, I wouldn't be shocked because and you know what? It makes sense to like Mike Tomlin is a kind of a rah rah guy. And Ben, Big Ben is a very relatable like, oh, I'll do it later, procrastinator kind of guy. So he's probably like, well, we'll beat the Cowboys and then they'll start losing, but we'll beat them later, you know.

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I mean, like, yeah, we'll get him in the second half. We'll just do it later. Like don't worry about it.

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Big Ben is going to treat his body like an amusement park this weekend. Just get back on the pawn.

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Probably watch too much of it on the road in the hotel at Dallas. No supervision there. Wake up in the morning.

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I don't think.

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I can't in good conscience, Ben, on the Cowboys because because they're onate against us. I got I have to root for history. I have to be a part of history. Biggart, I'm sorry that you are willing to overlook this pivotal moment in time that we're all sharing as Americans when a team can go onate against the 029. Against the spread. Yeah, it's start a season. I need to be a part of that. I'm I'm in a phase right now where I'm just love betting really bad teams.

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So it will probably only last for another week. But this is prime.

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Prime fourteen points.

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Come on. I love betting bad teams give it to me. And under most circumstances I think I would probably bet on the Cowboys. I bet on the Cowboys last weekend.

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Yeah, I bet Umbanda Nucci, who, by the way, is a perfect segue. We're nailing these cigarets, by the way, statistically speaking, Ben, tanuki was not the worst quarterback last week. It was to a really. Yes, Penda knew she was technically better than two to win like two four seven. Yep. Is that right. Yeah. To or twelve for twenty two. Ninety three yards. Ben tanuki went twenty one for forty one hundred eighty yards.

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I'm just saying so the koochie to not as bad. There was something about the nuzzi where his passes were so bad that they couldn't pick him off. Yeah. The defensive backs were like this is, this is a prank. You're pranking me with this easy interception. Right. He threw probably four or five passes that could have been picked for pick six is easily and none of them got intercepted. Right. Easily. All right. So this game, this is going to be, like you said, a like will a good ish look who's who's capable of going to the playoffs.

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Whoever wins this game is capable of going to the playoffs. Dolphins' the Cardinals.

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And we'll see to a look shorter in the NFL than he did in college. Yeah. And Cuyler is every time college fucks up, I'm convinced that his height seems like I'm very much like, oh, that was a short place to talk. No, no. He's when he's playing well, he's tall. When he's playing poorly, he's short.

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Didn't we run the numbers on his eyes? We need to get a we need to get one of those new iPhone cameras that we can tell somebody is true height, but just use it on Kyla's eyes because it only really matters how tall your eyes are. That's true. Anything above that is wasted space. That's true.

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So I feel like his eyes might be taller than his body is, like too tall for his frame.

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OK, but to. Circle that I'm going to circle that and come back to it, but to a just maybe it's the colors, maybe it's the Miami Dolphins colors, but he looks a little shorter than advertised.

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Yes. Yes. All right. Last game, Saints Bucs, Sunday Night Football, maybe Jamous, maybe Jamous. So Drew Brees got a little injury. Also supposed to be kind of some bad weather wind, which I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for Tom Brady and Drew Brees to have a game in like fierce, fierce winds and see whose arm strength is falling off more.

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Are we going to get Antonio Brown this weekend? Is he cleared to play? I think he is right.

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It is Antonio Brown. Like best friends, huh? I've the roommate.

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I've got to take a break. I think they're in love with each other. I think I think they're getting hold on it.

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I think I miss. Well, I'm sorry I said that.

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I think that Antonio Brown, Tom Brady or fucking I think Tom Brady is more in love with Antonio Brown than Antonio Brown is in love with Tom Brady. Yeah. Oh, really? To prove it thing. Mm hmm.

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I think Tom Brady's Tom Brady is within. Tom Brady is. And this is a credit to him as a competitor. He knows he's like, I only got a few. I only got like ten more years till he's like fifty three to play in the NFL. If someone can help him win a title, he doesn't care. He'll have them. He'll have the whole roster live at his house if he can win a Super Bowl.

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But no one's asking Tom Brady, hey, can can you shelter Antonio Brown while he's on the team like Tom Brady? He moved to Tampa. He was looking at houses and he was like silently walking around the house with the realtor imagined himself.

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I could see until there's interrogator's house, mind you. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

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Jazelle factor into this roommate situation.

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I don't know if it's a choice they can answer. It's weird, it's messy. I mean, love is love. I'm not going to I'm not slut shaming anybody here, but I think that I think there's something behind the scenes between those. Mm hmm.

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I also think he was approved, Belichick and Kraft like he was right. Antonio Brown is a good move. Yeah.

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Yes, I would agree with that. Do you think Antonio Brown is like sneaking out of Tom Brady's house at night, like tying bed sheets together and climbing down from the window, probably going out and being like he's suffocating me? Yeah, meeting with Charlie Bronson, his gym. You know, all he wants to do is, is watch film and show. Yeah. Keeps asking me to come and watch film and get under the blanket.

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Would you say Tom Brady is pressed. Yeah. Pressed on Antonio Brown. Yes.

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And Antonio Brown is pressed by how much Tom Brady loves. Yes. Press like he's press like this is too much for me.

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It also is very funny. I saw Kyle Brandt had a thing on his on the Good Morning Football show. He basically broke it down. And Antonio Brown, almost word for word, this exact press conference from Oakland that he did for Tampa Bay. Yeah. Like like being like, yeah, I'm here because Bruce Arians is offensive guru. And he said, I'm here because Jon Gruden is an offensive guru and like all the same lines.

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So I'm telling you, I, I know he's a great receiver. I it's not going to end well. No, it's just not. I'm calling my shot on this interview.

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Brown is a legit site. You're you're hot right now because essentially your shots are perfect that like eventually someone's going to be old. Yeah. It's not going to end well. He might retire.

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Tom Izzo is a bad head coach. That will be proven one year. He'll eventually he's not going to be good. Yeah. I mean, with the Internet, I think we can all agree that he's he's bad news. Yes. Big, big time. Bad news.

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Is he going to show up on a hot air balloon? Has a hot air balloon been spotted in Tampa? I don't know.

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He's here comes trouble. Yeah. Yeah, big time. All right. Should we do some fancy fuck boys?

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And I mean, to be fair, Antonio Brown hasn't committed sexual assault that we know of in the last six months at least.

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Yeah, at least. Maybe even twelve. We don't know. All right. Let's do some fancy fuck boys. Then we'll get to a great, great interview with Robert Iler, a.k.a. AJ Soprano in a minute. All right. Fancy fuck, boys. Ready to go? Yeah, let's do it.

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Let's go, go, go, go, go, go, go. What's up, boys? It's body microphone.

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Somebody me. My stardom is Chick fil A sauce. Yeah. Yeah, not that bad. I don't know if it's honey mustard on an olive branch. I don't know if it's whatever it is, but it's fucking fire. I want to douse that thing on my dick.

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Boy you you're going to suck your own dick out there. Playing chicken fillet would not be happy with that lube if you got Chick fil A's. Oh yes, brother. My system is ankle's fuck off. Oh, I like, um. I like them because I think she's the one. And then you like Fox. Oh Daniel. That means they won't turn their ankles. Steph Curry needs a pair. That's right. In my sleep is Jerry Judy.

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He's poised for a breakout week this weekend. Boys, pick up a waiver wire. All right.

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I'm like, yeah, I like it. Marty. Mike, I'm sure you know how much Marty Mickey modified my my my deal with it. I like Jeff. Fuck you. Shorty Ciano is my name. I'm starting this weekend. In New Jersey, that's right, and we just legalized the sense of maybe some Hoboken kind bud, some seaside city of baby, get the boys together, some some Bruce Greenstein, some Bon Jovi. Let's get everybody over to the house.

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We're smoking some pot. Hell yeah.

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And touch screens for touch screens. You got John King on CNN breaking it down like he's everybody's boss. Give me give me Baldie. Take it off. Looking at a fuckin video on his phone that he took of his television show in his broadcast, peaking in front of it, breaking down film that way. I'm old school. That's your old school way OS like county shout out Jeff Schwarz's school. I'm sleeping my sleep. Washington football team. A little bitty baby run one game.

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We got one game. There we go. What's up guys? It's Franscisco camp or subtractive beat. My stardom is Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush Stodden for the Dallas Cowboys.

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That sounds like a guy from West Texas who won three state titles and knocked up his girlfriend when they were seventeen and went on to be a town legend.

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He's actually from Michigan, but he's built for being a cowboy. My sleep is or no, my system is. Wolf Blitzer. I don't know some about that fucking guy. I fucking hate his face. It doesn't compute in my brain is his beard gets smaller every year, but you can see it. More names, Wolf. The fucking cool. Everything's going on. Fox am I sleeper is the blue turf. Boise State, BYU Friday night. Unbelievable game.

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The blue turf is back. Don't sleep on the blue team. Are you going to smoke? Yeah, they would always do. You know, Dagostino, you're too loud. You know, I don't have my headset. My stardom is nadie that just like going to a gas station by Natty Daddy, my Sidahmed sports. I like Anheuser-Busch, my set of Sports Illustrated pre workout. I took a nap after drinking it. It was terrible. It I only I stick to the brain for me.

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I drank it and I took a nap. Terrible. What is this fucking four times. What is this terrible fucking terrible terrible in my sleep. Is the Jets terrible after the Giants. After the Giants had a pretty good game. I think the Jets actually might be the Pats. I'm a New York fan. What do you live in in Oregon? You know, I am doing cocaine. It's legal. Legalized cocaine anyway. Jets nice. I'm calling the Jets.

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Oh, let's go now. I got it. Let's do the parlay.

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Parlaying the bazooka real quick. Ready? Yeah. One 800 Gambhir. If if you have a gambling problem, responsible gambling is your fraud as hedgehog.

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I'm doing. Yeah. So, Billy, tell me, why did your hedgehog not make a pick last week?

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He wasn't feeling it. What do you mean by him? You mean he went 50? Did your hedgehog die? No, no, my hedgehog. I think Billy's hedgehog is dead. I always like covering it by saying you didn't feel like proof of life. I have proof. Proof of life once you win 500 over the weekend.

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And he was like, you know what he he like wasn't feeling it.

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I want to see I it was I want to see a newspaper next year. A live hedgehog. OK, yeah.

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I can make it right so I can't lose. Partly I'm doing some a little different this week.

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I'm adjusting some lines and I'm doing one o'clock, four o'clock and I get three games. Spread it out chiefs minus nine and a half. So that's adjusted. When they're going to kill them, they're going to kill them. This one's ugly cowboys lost seventeen and a half.

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Seventeen or eighteen. I actually like that a lot. Yeah, they have seventeen and a half and I think you do to cover.

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They lose by fifteen. They're going to lose by thirty 17 and a half.

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And they were going on nine bucks moneyline so plus two eighty five and it'll probably be boosting the barstool sportsbook up plus twenty five.

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They're three games. Always do three games.

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I love it. Billy the Hedgehog picks. We got Packers minus seven, we got Giants plus two point five, we got Bears plus six point five, we have Ravens minus two and we have bills plus three. How did you decide to pick these guys? They got that wrong. Forty Niners plus seven Washington. We made these picks already. Yeah, I just haven't made the tick tock.

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How do you process. Yeah but how do you decide which way you haven't made the tick tock. You're in the process of you. So, so you videotaped your hedgehog doing it so. Right. I bet you haven't edited it. Yeah.

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Yeah I videotaped the pics. Can I see it on your phone. Can I see the pics. I actually have to have the video. I have the video right here.

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OK, you're right.

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I was in a movie. One of the old notes got old headshot. Oh yeah it is. Yeah. Oh that looks old. Why isn't it. Was that all that paint on it bears plus six point five. Oh OK. Maybe even I you could just be faking this every time. Buffalo plus three. All right, let's get to our interview.

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Oh, OK. We now welcome on a very special guest. It is Robert Iler. He is also known as AJ Soprano. He has a podcast, Pajama Pants. Go listen to it right now, wherever podcasts you can get it with. Is it whose whose else is on that podcast?

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So Jamie Lynn Sigler is on it. Who played my sister on Sopranos and then our friend Carson.

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OK, nice. So where do you want to start, because we obviously want to talk some Sopranos stuff, but I want to talk about all everything that you got going on in your life.

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Do you want to do The Sopranos first and get it out of the way as your show, whatever, whatever you want to? All right. All right. Let's do The Sopranos first. So we did the Mount Rushmore of worst TV characters a couple of years ago, and you were actually my number one pick.

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And I you know, my my brother is a lacrosse player up at Brockport.

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And he hit me up and he was want to tell me that all my friends are talking about this.

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And what he told me, I was like, I'm just I feel good that I was the worst. Yeah. Because if you said I was like the fourth worst character, that that's just pathetic, you know?

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Well, and it's not it's not it's actually a testament to your acting because I think and you can tell me if I'm wrong, but like that AJ Soprano, the character was kind of written that way of like you were as a viewer. You're constantly frustrated in him because, you know, you have Jamie Lynn Sigler, you know, Meadow being the overachiever, you know, Ivy League, all that stuff. And then you have A.J., who can't ever do anything right.

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And it's it's written that way. So you did a great job. It's like it's a weird thing to say worst, but you did it perfectly.

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Thanks. Yeah, you know, it's always like I think it's even harder when you're, you know, 14, 15 and you're just starting to like girls are starting to look at you. And then, like, every time you get the script, you're like, God, I have to be a douche again. You know, it's like there was those times you like I just want to do something cool. And like there are times where you almost think he's going to do something cool and then he just miserably fails at whatever he's trying to do.

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Yeah, right.

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You're like, oh, AJ is a football player. Oh. He passes out on the field. Yeah. For a second he's got like, hey, maybe I'm going to join the army and I'm going to become like, who knows, like a Green Beret or something. And then he'd give up on that. Oh he's got a sweet car. Oh he lit it on fire. Yeah.

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Oh he he actually might like go and kill Uncle Junior and then he's like laying there crying, getting tackled by like orderlies or whatever.

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Yeah. It's so yeah. It's interesting because I'm sure that at that age you want like there's a certain part of you. Yeah. You're acting, you're playing a part. And yes, it was a shitty character like the guy, you know, the character that you played was a shithead but he was a compelling shithead, you know. Yeah. We wanted to watch and we want to see. It would be much worse if it was just like a character that we didn't we didn't give a shit about, you know.

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But I've also I've read that there were some guys on the show. I think Vito, the guy that played Vito, he like he came to the writer or forgivers, a director, one of the producers or whatever, with the idea for the character arc to be like, I'm going, I want to be the gay guy. And then that gives me, like all these different areas that my character can go or at least, you know, worked in conjunction with them.

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Did you have any of that opportunity for yourself? I know you were just you know, you were younger kid at the time, but did you have any openings where you contributed to the character arc?

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Not like I would sit down with David Chase and be like, oh, here's what I think. But I noticed, like, I would show up to set in like a Pantera shirt with a marijuana leaf on it, skateboarding. And then in the next episode I'd be skateboarding with a Pantera shirt with a marijuana leaf on Ivica. OK, you know, there's definitely or like I was big into like heavy metal. Death metal, like Slipknot was my favorite thing in the world.

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So, like, all of a sudden we start he started putting Slipknot in and. Yeah, but we never really like I was a, you know, fifteen year old moron. I was never going to sit with David and be like, you know, I think maybe my character, because one thing that was so great about the show, which I didn't realize till after, is like. The writing was so good that you never had to like they were just they were unbelievable at their job.

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And when I look back at Sopranos, it's one of the most like things I'm grateful for is at such a young age, getting to see people in all different fields who were like the best of what they do. Yeah, like you're watching the best actors, the best directors, the best even their publicists, like everything. You're like, holy shit, because then you go and try and do other shit and you're like, oh man, this is what what like the normal level of like these people are good and they seem terrible because for so long we were working with just, you know, HBO really did right by us.

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And they they treated us right. And just it was like on Friday or on Thursday, I'd be in the park like drinking 40 smoking blunts with my friends.

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On Saturday, I'd be on a first class, like trip to L.A. to go to the Emmys on the red carpet, everything. And by Monday, I'd be back in the park smoking weed with my friends. It was just crazy. Like, I look back now and I'm like, how was that? Like, it just seemed normal to me at the time. But now I look back and I'm like, that's insane. Yeah, yeah.

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That is that is insane. And it's also I mean, it's rare that you have a character, an actor grow up on a show and in real life simultaneously because. So walk us through.

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So you get the you get the role. How did you get the role, first of all, did you. Was it a bunch of kids that showed up? And you're like, you know, this is going to be tough to get, but you how'd it all work out?

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So I was I was six years to start at the beginning. I was six years old, walking down a street and a guy approached my dad and was like, hey, your son should be like, you know, he didn't know I was going to be so short. But he's like, he should be a model or an actor, like get in the business somehow. And then my mom ended up calling the phone number and that guy is still my manager now, 30 years later.

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Wow. That's that's like a leap of faith. Yeah. To have, like, a guy just to be like, hey, that kid's good.

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Look, do you ever look back and you're like, Mom, what the hell are you doing this guy?

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No, because I mean, we were like as broke as you know, my grandfather was a super and we were living like five or six of us in a one bedroom in Manhattan. And the only reason we had that apartment is because my grandpa was a super. So we got to live rent free in the building.

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Wow. So so it was like any opportunity was like like of course. Yeah. Yeah.

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So you start acting and then what, what, what age did you get the Soprano's role.

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So I was going on auditions for about six years and then I went on the audition for Sopranos and I remember at first I thought it was like a show about singing. That's what everybody thought. And like, you know, my my son doesn't sing. And then they're like, no, don't worry. It's a show about, like Italian mobsters. And I showed up and I'm like fat and full of freckles. And like, I was just a very Irish little kid.

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And every kid in the audition was like the white t shirt with the black leather jacket and trying to like like gel in their hair and trying to play it up, like over here.

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And then I just kind of walked in and was like, you know, like David Chase said, like, I just like every time I said, fuck, he laughed because all the other kids were like, really trying to hit the fuck in, like, trying to show like, oh, look, on this crazy little kid who just said, fuck it. And I was just like, hey, are you fucking done here? Like, you know, can I?

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Because I just we went there with the idea of, like, oh, you're not going to get this. So it was a lot easier to just kind of be like, oh, this is just another. And nobody doing a TV show on HBO wasn't a big deal then. And The Sopranos meant nothing because nobody had ever heard of it. Right.

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You know. Right. That's that's great. Just being able to say fuck. I mean, that is a skill in itself.

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Like there's a there's an art to swearing and that that was your ticket on to The Sopranos.

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I think it's because you you played it cool and you were swearing like it didn't sound like, you know, as you put it, you weren't trying to, like, hit the fox. And you you were sometimes like it sounded like you were a kid that was still learning how to swear and still thought that it was cool to, like, be able to cuss and get away with it are like, you know, when your dad got mad at you, like you'd say stuff like, man, that's ticked up.

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And it's like I've never thought about saying dicked up before. That's fucking brilliant. What would a genius. Yeah. Did you did you like ad lib of that stuff or was always, you know, with the right it would say like, hey, we want you to like piss off your dad by dropping the F bomb at the dinner table?

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No, I mean, the writing was so good that it wasn't like they told us, hey, don't ever adlib. But you just you're like, this is perfect. I'm not. I'm not. Why am I going to say something different when this is so good? But then there are other scenes where they're like, you know, OK. And the first like thirty seconds of this, you guys are just sitting around talking or your guys are doing whatever or, you know, and they don't have a script for you where you're adlibbing stuff.

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But normally, like, you know, I'm a fifteen year old kid who is like smoking weed every night. I'm not going to be like like trying to change David Chase's lines. You know, I'm like he he knows what he's doing.

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Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like there was maybe like a little bit of stolen valor because you weren't like a stereotypical Italian kid who got to play the son of a mob boss in a TV show called The Sopranos?

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If there was, I didn't feel it because everybody just thought I was Italian and still, like I have friends who I've been friends with for 20 years who know I'm not Italian. And then when something Italian comes up, they're like, yeah, he knows, like, you know. And I'm like, no, dude, I'm not Italian, but people always forget. But it's also like I was kind of raised like the Italian pride on the set of Sopranos was so clear where in my home it wasn't like you're Irish, like, you know, do do Irish things where like on the set of Sopranos is like I felt very much like I was.

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I remember one time we had like a catering thing and there were some terrible pasta there. And I was eating in there and they were all like, how do you fucking eat that garbage? Like, oh, you're like, I think the world might be gone, which is like you're American, like you're some American, you know? And then I'm like, oh, this is great. And they're like, dude, that's like, you know, mac and cheese like.

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And then they would take me. He's like really high end Italian places.

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And I was 14 years old and it was yeah, it was it was crazy.

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So I read that you actually have not watched The Sopranos, like pretty much at all. Is that true? Like, you know, you've watched basically none of the episodes.

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So when we would do when we would go to the premieres, they would show us the first episode of the first two episodes. So the only episodes I've seen are those. And and when the first episode came out, obviously I watch it like with my family. It was a big deal. But yeah, we would all go to like Radio City Music Hall for the premieres and there would be, you know, thousands of people, but all of us like sitting in one section, watching it together, laughing.

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And those memories are great. But like I decided, I didn't like watching it.

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It made me feel uncomfortable. But then, like after James died, I was like, I could never watch it. Like just sitting there and watching 80 hours of video of him would be brutal.

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Do you think there will ever be a point in time in your life where you're like, you know what? Like I'm going to sit down and watch just like maybe, you know, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, you're like, all right, let's because I totally understand what you're saying. Watching yourself, listening to yourself is weird. I can't imagine doing it as a kid to like now watching yourself as a kid. But do you think they'll ever be a day where you're like, all right, let's let's start this from the first episode and go through the whole thing?

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I don't know.

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We talked about doing it with Jane because when when I talked to Jamie about starting a podcast, we got an offer for money to, like, sit and do a read watch where we watched all the episodes and talked about it. And we just both kind of got together and we're like, that's just not what we want to do, you know, like that.

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And especially if I ever do decide to watch it, I don't want to feel like it's a job. You know, I don't want to get to Episode ten and be like, I don't want to watch anymore. And they're like, oh, you only have seventy three episodes left. Right, right.

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We won't spoil any of it for you. No, we won't. Yeah. We're not going to die at the end. Yeah.

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Your whole family got shot at the table and that's what's crazy is like people always who think, who talk about me not watching it, they think I don't know what happened. You know, there's a lot of people who think I have no idea. And I'm like, no.

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We sat around every episode before we recorded the episode. And you do a read through where everyone sits with the script and you read your part. And those are like some of my best memories by far from Sopranos. Well, they would just have food around that. Everybody would be sitting around in like pajamas and and everyone would read the script and the laughter in those rooms were crazy.

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So when it when it came time to rehearse the very last scene where you guys are in the restaurant and you guys are reading through that, you know, getting ready to shoot it and you're getting all the notes and all the feedback, do you know that you're going to die at the end? Is that something that's told to you, like, hey, we're going to film it and you're going to get shot and it's gonna be a bloody mess, but we're just not going to use that last five seconds.

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Were you there? Yes. Like what? You know, what's weird is people talk a lot about that last scene, but for us, we didn't shoot the last scene last. So it's when we shot that scene, it was very like, oh, it's just another day at work. And then two weeks later was everyone's actual last day. So even though that was the last scene, it didn't feel like the last scene. And everyone I watched it live.

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I think I think I started watching the show live around season three and three or four. But I remember vividly, I thought my cable went out and that was pretty much everyone in America thought their cable went out. So thank you for that, even though you didn't write it. But I appreciate that and the scare that I got, because that's like the scariest moment in the world to have your cable go out. Who was the funniest guy on set?

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We talk about, like, you know, doing the table reads and getting ready. Who is the person who just made everyone laugh for me?

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Who is probably Johnny V, who played Artie Bucco. OK, OK.

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Did he. He is he's hilarious like he would we would be like on a trip to California or something. He would just go into an impression of somebody and just stay that guy, you know, like he would be walking around the hotel pretending to be somebody else who's Johnny V is hilarious. Who else is really funny? I mean, Steve's Europe is pretty great. Yeah, he's a good time. He's a fun guy.

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Yeah. I mean, Artie. Bobby Balaklava, right? Yeah. Artie Butko. Just a total tragic character. You want to talk about other guys who like the way they were written.

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Just the saddest character. Yeah. I felt bad for him the entire time. Yes. Halflife. Yeah. Very hot wife.

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What about I did I, we actually had Dré de Matteo on a couple of times on our podcast already. She's like she's such a. I don't know how to put it, but like she she she says she's a broad, you know, like she's not a girl. We're like, you have to watch your words around. Like, she'll push the top, like she'll make you uncomfortable, you know, which is like it's just such a treat, you know.

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Yeah.

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That's Adriana, obviously, for people who might not know. Yeah, I was walking around the West Village one time and I heard her behind me and I was like, that's Adriana. I turned around and it was Adriana, sure enough. Like you hear coming before you see her sometimes. Yeah.

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And then you see her and you're like, holy shit. Yeah, she was, she was for me. She was by far when when we started the show, I was like 13. She was the hottest chick I'd ever seen in real life.

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Yeah. For a lot of people who watch the show and she was she she might be up there.

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We should do like a rankings of characters because she might be up there for for best.

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Do you say actress or actor? Is everyone in thespian. Thespian. I would say her performance is up their top three. Mm hmm. Yeah.

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When she is unreal. When Christopher sat on the dog and killed it when he was high. Ozalp Yeah. R.P. Cozette, did you guys get swarmed on the set. Yeah. Where you guys like that. Man We're not able to work with this dog anymore.

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Yeah, well you don't you know, it's crazy. There's people who like Lorraine Bracco who people think like, oh, you worked with Lorraine Bracco for ten years and it's like but I never had one scene with her, you know. So when things like that scene are going on, you don't even know, you know, you hear about it in the read through and then you hear nothing like even scenes that I've done, I've done I've seen, like, little clips of it.

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Like I saw me like sweeping up glass in the backyard one time.

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And I was like, I never did that, you know, like, there's there's no I'm like, what the fuck is that like?

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Why was like sweeping up glass in the backyard? It's just it's it's people talk about, like, these scenes and they're so memorable to them. But for me, it was like something I did with my friend twenty two years ago. Yeah. Like a scene that you just it was like going out to remember having lunch with your friend 22 years ago. And you said this and he said this. You're like, no, of course not.

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Dad actually has got to be maddening because everyone does have that one friend who will remember certain like conversations or the like. Hey, remember when you said this at like in in 2004, you're like, no, I don't. And thank you for telling me. I'm stupid for saying that. But you have that just constantly with every moment of your life being on on camera there for like those those ten years. That's got to be a little crazy. Yeah.

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I can understand why you're not going to watch back the whole show and you forget about some of them and people remind you and you're like, oh, that hurts.

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You know, like people are like, oh, you know, when you when you cried and you fainted and you're like, oh, yeah, that was you know, you forget all about that. Like it was a bear. And you started crying and yelling for your mom and like, oh yeah.

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OK, so when you first started acting in the spirit, how old were you when you first started filming? I was 12 years old when the show recorded, and then when it first aired, I was probably like 13, maybe 14.

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So I wouldn't call that being a child actor. You were definitely like younger and but you were like going through, like a big change in your life at the time, like 12, 13 years old. That's like, you know, middle school. That's when shit starts to happen in real life where you kind of take control of your own life as a kid. Did that fuck with you at all? Like having that like trying to have that delineation between, OK, I'm at work playing a character and then this is me, you know, offset like did the the character of AJ start to blend in with your personality or how did you keep that separate?

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If not for me? Never. Because what was so great about like I think about kids who did Nickelodeon shows and I'm like, oh no, that must be so crazy because you go to school and it's just insane where for me I'd go to school. There was not one kid in my life. I went to public school in New York City my whole life. There's a thousand kids in your school. There was not one kid in my school who watched Sopranos ever.

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That's you know, and if you're if you're 14 years old and you're going to a party with a bunch of 14 year olds, nobody knows The Sopranos.

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Nobody like people have kind of heard of it or this. But there were no 14 year olds then, like watching Sopranos every Sunday night, like, you know.

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So let's talk a little after you finish.

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After The The Sopranos ends, you took an interesting route and I respect the hell out of this. You basically just said, I'm going to go live my life for a while and and enjoy myself.

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So you went and became a professional poker player in Vegas, is that right? Yes.

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So when I was 22, we finished Sopranos and I remember everybody talking about like, oh, what are we going to do next? And then I get to play in a movie. And I told my manager, I'm like, don't call me for six months. Like, pretend like I don't exist. I don't even if it's important, I'm like, I just don't want to hear it. And that's six months turned into like twelve years or however long because I just kept pushing it off and pushing it off.

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And then I was partying so hard that I went to Vegas alone for two weeks to play in the World Series of Poker. And I got like two seventy fifth in the main event and it paid forty something thousand. And I just took that money and was like, I'm going to put this in account and get an apartment here in Vegas for a year. And when that's gone I'll go back to New York. So I went to Vegas for two weeks and I came home a year and a half later.

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That's OK.

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That's crazy. Yeah, that's that's incredible stuff. So how were you? Like, good. I mean, it's that's a dream that a lot of people I think can relate to were like, hey, let's go to Vegas and and try to make it work a year and a half's a long time.

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Like how would you rank yourself as a poker player?

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Well, 13 years ago, poker was different than it is now. I'm sure they figured it out with solvers and computers and all this stuff. And so, like thirteen years ago, all you had to do was not have a day job and you were a good player because half of the people at the table would have a day job or kids or they'd be there like one day a week playing poker, like, oh, it's my night out. I'm coming to play poker.

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Where now, you know, the. All of what happened was they had a computer figure out, like know game theory optimal, which is like the best way to play poker. So now people study that and they play that way. And it just it makes it a lot harder and makes it also a lot less fun. You know, people are just sitting there not talking, figuring out like mathematical equations in their head where when I was when I moved to Vegas, everybody was drinking and laughing.

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And the poker table was like a party, you know, where now it's like a classroom. Yeah.

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So if you're playing, like, by the book or by the computer and you're going up against somebody that is just dumb as shit, like, you know, that they're not doing any sort of math in their head. Right. Like they're totally, wildly unpredictable. How do you incorporate your computer model into evaluating a guy that's like maybe a legit psychopath or just stupid as hell?

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So I probably studied for, like, you know, a year. And and I kind of it was when I was, like, falling out of love with poker.

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But before that, like I would say from nineteen to twenty eight, I was just obsessed with poker.

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And you you go and you play against people who they're they don't like, you know, I had a poker tracker, which is like I know how much money I make an hour. I know how much I made this year. I mean, most people go and they just think when they lose money, they're like, oh, I got a bad beat, you know, or whatever, where when I started studying GTO and doing all that stuff, I kind of lost the it wasn't fun anymore, you know, like I was just like, oh, I don't want to be a guy sitting here doing math all day.

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And it's like when when I used to bluff people, it would be like I'm picking my spot, you know, like I'm going to do this right now. In Geto, you take, like, you know, something like a clock and you're like, OK, if the minute hand is between zero and fifteen minutes and I'm supposed to bluff, you know, twenty five percent of the time, that's the time I'll bluff. So when you have your hand and you go, this is an enormous loss of bluff.

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Twenty five percent of the time you look at a clock and you see what time it is and you're like that determines if you're going to fold or play.

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That's crazy. Yeah, that does sound like all the fun. Yeah. The fun out of it. So you also played in a lot of the like New York Games, I would assume. I watched that movie Molly's game a couple of months ago. Would you play in some of those games?

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So I didn't see Ali's game, but I know I don't know what you know, it's dangerous to the movie.

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I don't know what I'm allowed to talk about. But there were people who, when I started poker, were having like these smaller games by smaller. It's like, you know, a thousand to two thousand buy in. And it was all businessmen. Everybody was having fun. And then it became the games got a lot bigger in New York and they became like one hundred thousand dollar buy in. And I never played those.

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Like, I'm I'm never I never showed up to play poker with more than ten grand because if I was going to lose one hundred thousand dollars and I wouldn't sleep for weeks. Yeah.

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I mean that makes sense. The I just I saw it on your Wikipedia. It says that you were at one of the places that got raided, which that's got to be a thrill to not be arrested to. You weren't arrested, but you had there was a raid at a poker lounge in New York that's like the coolest thing ever were wearing the windbreakers, like the FBI, the blue and yellow jackets. Yes.

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So I was drunk and I showed up to play poker and there was a cop in front of the poker place and he's like, he saw me going in and he looked at me. He's like, hey, get out of here. And I was like, oh, OK. Like like just bounce.

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And I went to meet my friends at a bar and we drank for like two hours. And I and I was like, oh, you know, they'll be done by now. And I went back to the poker place when the elevator opened, it was just all the police officers were in there. And the one guy was like, I told you to get the fuck out here, you know?

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Oh, yeah.

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Like, I was I was just I was an idiot, you know, what do you one years old, like thinking, you know, invincible or. It was just it was a dumb, but I was doing a lot of dumb shit back then, you know. Yeah.

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When you're playing in these underground games like that, to me, just feels like it'd be cool. Like you'd feel like you were getting away with something the whole time. Is there any like anything that you miss now that, you know, poker's it's more out in the daylight than it's ever been. But like was there an element of feeling like it's pretty fucking cool to be in like some dimly lit basement knowing that you were breaking the law just by playing a card game?

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You got you know, part of it is like you feel sleazy and then part of it is also cool. We're like, you know, there were times where I be walking with my friends somewhere and I'd be like, oh, hold on, let's walk in here real quick. And we'd walk into this, like, shady spot. And I would grab a thousand dollars from, like some shady dude and then my friend would be OK. What the fuck was that?

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I gotta worry about it, you know, like it's just so like it was there is a feeling of like it was cool to know that there was this underground world going on in New York City and like, I'd be on the block eating lunch somewhere and and I'd be like, oh, shit. I know that there's a high stakes poker game going on right there. And you see, like, you know, people just walking by clueless and shit.

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But most of the times.

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You know, there's such a variation of those games where, like, you go to some place and you're like, wow, this is really nice and everything is really classy in this, then you go to some places and you're like, well, there's a cockroach crawling on my leg right now and I just wanna get the fuck out of here. It's disgusting. But, you know, you're like, you know, it's Sunday night at 2:00 a.m. This is the only game that's going.

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So you're just, you know, you stay and you play.

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I would imagine, too, that did that ever happen to you with The Sopranos, where you're like the acting melds into real life and you're kind of walking around being like, I'm a protected guy because, like, my dad's Tony Soprano?

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Well, there were guys, you know, the guy who played Paulie Walnuts and Sirico. Yeah. The Great by the way, I can't believe when you said who's the funniest guy?

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He's the funniest guy by far. I don't know how that slipped my mind, but he was just hilarious being himself because he was, you know, Paulie Walnuts, like he he came to my confirmation, I guess I don't know how old you are, 14 or 15.

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And he came over to me and he gave me an envelope full of cash. And he was like, listen, if you ever have a problem, you call Uncle Tony.

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So it wasn't just the acting like there were times where I really was like, OK. And he would bring people around like to dinners and stuff. And he'd be like, yeah, this is Jimmy the hat, like, you know, and there would be these guys are like all these like they were just big dudes like you. It's like he rolled around with this dude who who was like, God, he gave me like a pin that he won the Golden Gloves and he was like six foot six, like some crazed.

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And he's like, yeah, this is you know, this is Big Mike and this is this guy in the and you got the vibe where you're like, I feel protected not from the acting. I feel protected from from these guys, you know, people.

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Yeah, that's awesome. Is there any like is there any pull for you to get back into acting Harry Potter you like you know what? That's in the rearview mirror. I was on maybe the best show of all time.

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There's really no need to get back into that, you know, and it's like especially with doing the podcast, it's going somewhere where you get to decide what to do and you don't like people are like, OK, show up at this time.

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You're going to say this. You're going to wear this, you're going to eat this, you're going to act like this. It's like it just gets off and you're like, fuck, I don't really want to do that, you know, and especially with a TV show, because it's like it starts in one area and then three years later, you're somewhere totally different where you're like, I didn't sign up for this shit. You know, you have no idea where it's going to go, where maybe if it was a movie and I thought it would be cool to do like I would think about it, but I don't desire.

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To be in, you know, to do like some long term TV show anymore, you know? Yeah, I did see, though, in another relatable moment that you have been in a couple law and order episodes, and that was strictly to get out of jury duty. Is that true? Well, you did your research. How do you see that?

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I have I have a long history with jury duty. I have I've been trying to get in and out of jury duty for like two years. So when I saw that, I was like, fuck, yes, this is awesome. Like, the fact that you could. Is that how it actually went? You got jury duty and you're like, Hey, Law and order, I'm ready for my episode so I don't have to do jury duty.

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And that's exactly what happened. I got this I got the phone call and they were like, hey, you have to come down to like, whatever it is, Center Street. And and I had been on probation for three years and going down just to that area and walking in those buildings would like turn my stomach because I just I hated it so much. And they were like, yeah, come down to Center Street and do jury duty. So I called my manager and I'm like, can you get me a job to get out of jury duty next week?

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So he called me back. He's like, Yeah, I have a job for you on Law and Order.

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If you do the episode of Law and Order, they'll send a letter in that you're working and you can't make jury duty. And I didn't even ask what I was doing in the show.

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I was like, OK, what's what did you do in the show?

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I had spoiler alert. I think I like, killed my sister's parents or some shit like.

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So you were the culprit. You were the guy. Yeah. Yeah. But you just I mean, just trying to get out of work and you just showed up and you're like, OK, I'm going to I guess I'm going to be the star of the show and be like a multiple murderer. That's OK. Whatever. Tell me where to stand, what knife to hold. I'm good.

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And I also have a horrible fear like paperwork. And I just imagine that jury duty would have a bunch of people. Like when I won the forty thousand dollars at the World Series of Poker, you get knocked out and then they send you into this room. And the person handed me like a four page thing to fill out. And it was part of me that was like I should just leave, like, you know, I like when it went all those, like, empty spaces and having to fill in all your information.

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I never know any of the fucking answers. Like, I'm just I'm clueless.

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I never work is like my no. The thing I hate the most.

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Oh, it definitely sucks because I've had to do it and I. Yeah, jury duty is not fun. I got out of it because I was just like, hey, I have an interview I have to do. Whoo hoo! Reinterviewing shit.

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It might have been from that 70s Show. Topher Grace. Yeah, Topher Grace. I was like, hey, I have Topher Grace, we're interviewing him tomorrow. And the person was like, Topher Grace is like, yeah.

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And they're like, OK, you can go. So I have not not as cool as Lorne calling up and being like, put me in law and order.

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You're like, I got to go murder Topher Grace. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been I also might have embellished a little bit because I also threatened them and I was like, hey, listen, I have a radio show and a podcast. So whatever case I get put on, I will be talking about publicly a lot. And they're like, well, that doesn't work. You're excused somewhere on the cool level.

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And between mine and my grandpa's, which was my grandpa, would be like, just tell you're racist.

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He's like, that's what I do. I'm like, OK, that's going to work great for me.

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Just all these races I could actually see Junior Soprano doing that on an episode of The Sopranos, just going and pretending, you know, Amarasinghe, he's like, I'm very racist, you know, I love you and pussy, but I'm racist. By the way, Junior shoots Tony in one of the episodes when he does actually get dementia, she brings it up. That is spoiler alert if you haven't seen it. We like to sohag started watching the the series.

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What was that like four years ago? And our producer would watch it and he was doing like two episodes a week. And so then just because we're dickheads, we decided to spoil every single season of The Sopranos for Tom has been out.

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Yes.

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So I think I know gleni gleni balls is a big fan, right? Yeah.

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He went to the house. He went to the house for for like Sopranos Con or whatever it was a couple of weeks ago. How much time did you actually spend in that house or was that were you taping it somewhere else?

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So we filmed the first the pilot, the first episode at that house, and then we filmed at that house. Any time that there were scenes in the pool, any outdoor scenes, shit like that would be there. And then everything else was in a studio in Long Island City in Queens.

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So, yeah, I did hear that there were things about the show that the FBI would kind of pick up on, and they thought that there was somebody that was on the inside that was writing for the show that also worked in the FBI are like feeding things back and forth because you remember when they had the the bug down in the basement of that house, that was it got like moved next to the furnace or something like that. That's something that actually happened where the FBI tried to bug somebody's house.

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And I think they put it in a lamp. The lamp got moved next to either an air conditioning unit or a furnace. So I guess what I'm asking is, are you rat? Were you did anyone ever approach you from the FBI about like, hey, if you get any good ideas, let us know that we can. And use those in the field, I know they they would use stuff in the script sometimes that people who were wise guys would, like come up and say to people like the actors on our show, like there was a scene where somebody comes over and says, I think to Tony, like wise guys don't wear shorts, like you're not supposed to wear shorts.

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And that was something that really happened in real life, was a wise guy went to James Gandolfini like at a bar or something, and he came over to him. He just like said Nazeer. He's like, listen, no wise guy would ever wear shorts. Just put it in the show. Yes.

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I mean, that's what makes it authentic. That's what makes it great. Was it so we talked about James and how watching the show would be painful. So I know you had a very close relationship with him, but was there ever a moment when you were taping the show that you had like a step back, like, I can't believe I'm sharing, you know, the screen with this guy who is such an incredible, incredible actor, like, could you feel it in the moment?

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And never and the crazy thing is that it wasn't until I would watch other shows and I'd be like, wow, it must be dope to be those guys now. Oh, was like I kind of m those got like I'm I'm sitting there working with James and everybody loves to talk about James. He is one of the greatest of all time. But another thing is like Edie Falco. Yeah.

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Is so unbelieve like she is like sometimes I would definitely sit there and you see and especially because, you know, Tony was very different from James, but also it was very different from Carmela. And you would sit there and be like, holy shit, because you would see her in the hair and makeup trailer, like, show up with her dog and we'd hug and talk and how are you? And very sweet. And then she would go into hair, makeup and come out with, like, the long nails and the crazy hair and the makeup done and like Versace clothes.

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And it was just like the transformation was was crazy. So there definitely were times where I was sitting there with Eddie and I was like, wow, she is she is on such another level.

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Yeah. She I mean, yeah. That she's I don't even know if you could do like a top five character list because she also would be easily top five easily in terms of just and these were all these are all actors who not only were trained and like unbelievable actors, but they had been trying to make a break in acting for so long.

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And then you have me who's like 12 years old, never took an acting class. And I'm just sitting on set like I belong here, too, which is just not true, you know. But it was it was it was crazy and the same thing.

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It's like it really that's something I think about all the time of like how Edie Falco, James Gandolfini, people like that were just out there going on auditions. And then a year later there, you know, Tony and Carmela Soprano and you're like, how did how did how do people let them walk out of a room?

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Right. Right. And you bring that up, though, about like you just being a kid. I think that's actually like thinking about it, why your character was so good and hateable because you were just you and you were a kid at the time. And I think that, like you said, in terms of your first time when when everyone was trying out for it, not trying to act too much was why your character was so good, because you were really just a kid, you know what I mean?

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Like, that's thinking about it. Like, it kind of all makes sense.

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It just it never felt like a big deal, you know, like even the first time we went to the Emmys, they rented a bus and they painted like New Jersey Transit on the side. And we all got in the bus and went together like a family, you know? And you would see when we would go to the Emmys, it would be like, oh, there's Matt LeBlanc and over there is Jennifer Aniston. And and these people where when it was when we were there, it was like, oh, there's The Sopranos, right.

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Because we never like we never left each other's side. We would go and pull like eight tables into a corner somewhere and just sit there for, you know, eight hours and laugh and drink and hang out. And we just like it was crazy, really doing other things. After that.

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I realized just but that's what made me realize how special it was, because you're like, wow. But we were straight up like a family. Yeah.

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Yeah. Who would you say had the best post Sopranos acting performance would be Eddie on Nurse Jackie or would it be Michael Imperioli only on those tequila commercials where he put them upside down. Be like my tequila pours itself, bitch. What the fuck can you do? You're missing.

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Tony Sirico is in blockbuster commercials. I think those were where he would like threaten people. Rewind the tape and it.

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I forgot about that. All right. Yeah, he's the winner, obviously. Easily the winner there.

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Well, I got a question for you guys. So I was thinking if if you guys did like bar stool therapy and did like real legit sessions with people, who do you think would make the best season if they were honest?

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I think between Stu Feiner. Nico, Bosko and Frank, the tank, I would say, still seems like the correct answer. What is the shit that he's seen? I don't know.

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Stewie's I, I would actually probably go with Ricoh Ricos got something real fucked up in his head. Like Stu is fucked up. But Stu also I always give Stu credit. He's like a true family man, heart of gold type of guy. So and Frank, we just be like I think everything would just lead back to the Mets would be like my the source of all my misery and happiness is the New York Mets. So Rico would be the one I'd want to sit down and really try to be like, so what is going on?

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Brandon Walker wouldn't be bad either. Yeah, I'd like to know what's going on under the surface. But yeah, with Frank, I think it's not a mystery. With Frank, what you see is 100 percent what you get. Right. If yeah. If you were to sit down on a psychiatrist couch that just be like, yeah, well, I think the problem at the end of the day is your bullpen. Bullpen just stinks. Right. And I can't write you a prescription for that.

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Right, Enrico? It's like you could sit there and be like Rico, do you know you're crazy? And he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. That you just do that for like three hours.

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You just have and then conversation like diagnosing his paranoia would be amazing. But I also the reason why I think Frank the Tank is because I could see like the first two episodes are kind of like, I don't know. And then somewhere in like episode three, he just breaks and like even his voice changes. Like, you just start crying and like the all the truth comes out about, like, what's really going on.

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So you also, you little shout out to play barstool app. You were telling me that you went, what, nine and one like two weeks ago? I love it. I just it's just crazy, like how the world kind of works out that AJ Soprano is playing the play stool up and like, that's that's the thing. And you're actually doing really well on it.

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Well, what what I used to do is like I would write down my picks in the beginning of the week, then I listen to all like the podcast and the stats and all these things. And then I look at my bets at the end of the week and see how they're different from the beginning of the week. And then I realized, like my friend told me about the barstool play app and I started using anything I could just use this and place all my bets on here and I could track them.

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And then maybe one day if something insane happened, win. Twenty five grand.

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Yeah, yeah. That's a great yeah. The other day I had the if the bills score one field goal or a touchdown instead of a field goal, they scored like six or seven field goals. That game if I think six field goals, if they score a touchdown instead of a field goal or one extra field goal, I would have been perfect on the barstool.

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Wow. That's that's impressive. I don't think I've ever come. But it's all it's total. It's total. Look, it's it's look so but it's also real.

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So I want to make a bet based on what you think is going to happen tonight, the Bucs and the Giants. So we're going to air this probably Friday. We're going to air this Friday. So you're going to either seem like a genius or a complete idiot. I like Tampa Bay minus twelve and a half Monday Night Football.

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Which way?

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You know, what I did was I put the the bucks in my ten point teasers, so I got the bucks minus two and a half.

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Oh, OK. I like that. That's smart. I think I have the bucks. I had the Bucks and the Eagles in a teaser. Each one was down. I think it was like a seven point teaser. So I'm still I'm alive.

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They're. What about the overunder.

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I'm the whatever I say go the opposite. I'm horrible with over on. What is it.

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What's the a forty six and a half. Yeah. I got Timothy's defense is so good. Giants are so unpredictable, I just I guess I would take the over.

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I don't know what it's like. I love the underdog. You're going to still end up going on the air? No, no, no. I like the thunder. Actually do.

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So that's perfect. That's on the worst totals.

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It's crazy. And that and I have like a few teams or if I bet on them, what you should bet the opposite. Like if I bet on the Falcons you should do whatever the opposite I and the Chargers do, whatever the opposite that I did because I've never wanted to bet in my entire life.

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Well, the Chargers never won a charger, but in their entire life, too, because they they hated us. We had that stat today, 38, 38, one score losses in the last five years. That's unfathomable. I don't even understand how that's possible.

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Yeah, well, you know what's crazy? So last night I every Sunday we go over to Jamie's house and we like smoke eight pounds, short rib and like watch football. And, you know you know what Jamie's last name is now, right?

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Yeah. Dijkstra. Yeah, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. We got him in here. Yeah.

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We go over to Jamie's house and we watch football and everything. And I bet on the Eagles against the Cowboys. I'm so used to betting against the Eagles that during the game I was rooting for the Cowboys and I would catch them like the Cowboys would drop a pessimistic fork. I was and oh, wait, I'm so used to rooting for, like, against the Eagles, you know, I'm like, yes, I was.

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But I was making I was like cheering for the wrong team during the game.

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Yeah, that will happen. Habits die hard. Yeah. Twist yourself up. Well, Rob, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate this. Hopefully you're in New York sometime soon you can come and hang out in person. We need to get you on barstool sports advantage. Just walk in and be like I'm the boss now and just intimidates do feiner. That would be fantastic.

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I would love that. Yeah, I could be like part of the Mortlock if you if for some reason someone ever picked the Jets or the Giants as the Mortlock. Yeah. The Jersey. Yes, yes, yes.

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I get you do a burger review with gleni boss. Oh I think that would probably make his entire life you have to do that.

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He would have had love that also way better at betting on sports.

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I feel like I'm one of the best in the world at predicting what Dave is going to rate a pizza and he goes and he's like, I'm nasty.

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Like, it's just it's crazy. Like, I think there's so many times where I'm like, oh, he's you know, it's a six eight. It's a seven. I don't like he's dancing between seven nine and eight one. And then he's like, you know, if anybody anybody who knows who watches this, I'm dancing between the seven, eight and eight one. I would put money up if we want to do that one day to tell anybody that that would be a very funny betting.

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Markets have, like you, Tommie and Frankie, watching behind the scenes and like trying to distract and then you pause it right before he gives a score. You guys each have to write down your scores independently. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

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Yeah. All right. Well, Rob, thanks so much. Everyone go listen, Pajama Pants, his podcast. We appreciate and hopefully see you soon, man.

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Yemen, thank you so much for having me. I'd love to have you guys on one day if you're if you're free. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Thanks, man. Thanks a lot, man. See you soon.

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OK, let's wrap up with fire. It's been a week. Enjoy yourself. Have a Friday. Relax. It's been a week. Fire for us of the week though.

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Hank, you want to start till you can start. Let's go Billy. Billy, you start. I'll start.

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Billy got Vinnie Woodhead Toad and it's still in my name. Oh hey.

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How'd you find out? That would be my final question of the week to go try to hide. Undoubtedly, I will be owing so much money on this stupid fucking band because. Oh, wait, hold on. Here's the best part. Oh, here's the best part, Billy. We we didn't have the title. So Billy was tasked with getting a new title sent to me. Did that. Congrats, Billy. Good job. Gave Billy the title.

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Asked Billy today. What happened to the title. I thought you were just going to get rid of it or sell it or whatever.

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His dog ate the title. We're getting another title. That is the excuse he use.

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My dog ate the time I usually use my dog is homework.

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There's no use for me. There's a tweet of this conversation that happened with my dog. The title is Work Out of No.

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It just ripped up the title. Anyway, look, what was your what was the title of a car doing at dog level.

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Right.

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I'm talking about the series of events that that dog is having very large and jumps up of a car on the floor of your barn being a dog, put in your backpack and then and then he just gave it and he walked home and he's like, here, Whitey have this dog's name is waiting for Whitey. Ford was Billy's favorite player.

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I have I was Whitey Bulger. Picture of what for.

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It's going to played in nineteen twenty two. I know but I have no idea. He just likes the name. I like my favorite players. Satchel Paige, my uncle's also. So anyway.

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All right. OK, all right. But yeah. Whitey so that's my fire first. Yeah. So where was, where to get it from. Who knows. OK, no it didn't actually get towed. He also lives like in a barn. I was like just put it in the barn dude.

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OK, we're figuring out very complicated anyway.

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We're figuring it out. It's my favorite. Yeah. Go ahead.

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My favorite parts of the week was um I think he got the FBI watching me.

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OK, that was going to be I was going to suggest that for you know, I legit walked out of my house this morning and I saw a tinted Ford Taurus just parked outside and just like in a very sketchy spot. And then when I looked at it, it started driving away quickly.

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So I think the FBI did it have that that spirally antenna on the back that that they spotted and then let Ben Affleck movie the town? Yeah.

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Yeah. It's like, yeah, it had been where the oh the foreign and know fucking years might want to hide that on the market, the unmarked cars that they have.

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Like the weird thing on the rearview mirror. On the side mirror anyway. So that was weird.

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Fifty basically I tweet like I built. No I built. Let's put some context. Regulus billion deal. He tweeted out last night, this is word for word, his job.

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I saw it. I retweeted a signal boost.

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It is looking to buy Subadult Hynde's in the tri state area. DM me built a new henhouse and have a lot more room I built so that I'm getting a new.

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So there are lots of red flags. I saw somebody call you Jeffrey Epstein. I literally alerted the FBI. I said have I'm not sure I want what I spilled, but it's obvious that you should investigate this.

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No, no. I built I got a bigger house because the hens got bigger.

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And I need a new heating system to buy subadult system in the house because because the hens, they're not fully adult.

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So I wanted to get them the same age. I don't know what else to call it. So I don't work chicks and they're not adult hens yet. So juvenile like some teenagers. I don't know what it's like. Not they don't like you. I'm trying not to start laying eggs. He's trying to get these sub adult teenagers pregnant. No. Oh, it's something.

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Wow. Anyway, I stepped in it again, you know. So anyway, I think there was maybe there a possibility that you could have had this thought and not tweeted it out.

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Yeah, well, legitimately, I want like low key, like, I have already located a place to get. And so it worked.

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Right. So I have right. Chickens. The ends justify the means of of doxxing yourself as a Subud don't know.

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The ends justify the means. Oh oh. Rough week.

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All right then you tweeted out a picture of your cock right afterwards. Yes. I started putting out pictures of my chickens.

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I knew I actually had chickens.

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Right, right, right, right. It makes sense. All this makes sense. Totally right. Hey, what's your first?

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I was walking Norman. Obviously he had a week. He had quite a week.

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What happened one week ago today, you guys saw a picture of his dick, how we did out on Friday night. He's doing OK, but we are walking in public in a pretty busy place. And two guys were like across the street, like Big Dick, normal dude.

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That's a he's a stud. He knows it. However, people think that they're saying that to you. You're Norman. All right. That's also cool.

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And I said to keep walking and people are looking at me like I was Big Dick Norman. That's cool, too. Very cool. No. My dog, yeah, who has the big dick? Yeah, if you see Hank in public, don't call him Big Dick Tuna. Don't yell at. Make sure when you say Big Dick Norman, you pointed his dog, right? Yeah. Just anything below his waist level going around that area to yours.

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My favorite part is, I guess I'm a narc because I learned the authorities. But you need a dog. Yeah. You know what? You did the right thing. Yeah. I mean, I guess if you want to call me a snitch or a, that's fine. But I really I want to stop.

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So let's see the coupe logs subadults. Authorities need to be alerted.

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Yes, but do you have one? I do. I think it was Monday or Tuesday. It dropped to, I think, mid thirties. So it was time to rip out the winter jacket. Yeah, mine's broken. Zipper zippers are screwed up. It's been six years, four years in Syracuse, two winters in Burlington. It's time to get this and that jacket.

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Seen some shit, cities like that. Did you like this, Jake? Doing his first like I need a fridge. Yes.

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All our boys growing up. No, no. I called Jake.

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I just love I just love that that's your for us. Like our two sons, one has a zipper broken, the other is trying a black market for subadult pants. You couldn't be more different. Did you have to pay for the tri area and you have a chicken farm? No. You also know when I say Tri-State area, it sounds way too official. I like people in the tri state area. Have you been part of a fraud? No, just like yourself.

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Have you have you given your subadult chicken instead what you called the there? No, I want to watch a full grown hens with the younger hens and then they like there's some fucked up situation. Really want to get out of your chickens. You're cool with Pennsylvania chickens. That's that's in the tri state. Pennsylvania, the tri state area.

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No, New Jersey, Connecticut. New York.

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Yeah. Fuck that. Yeah. You definitely don't want Connecticut. Hence no was rich. Those earning anyway didn't lay eggs.

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So yeah, I actually want to buy some hens because you can't just order them online like chicks. I know you actually have to go pick them up and ship him. All right. What's the number.

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What number. Six eighteen eight nine eight one.

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You pick six every time. Yeah, it's more like it's funny.

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I can't I like we have to mix it up.

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Eight eight eight more kangaroos can't jump backwards. We already did that. No one's that. Yeah. They didn't get on record or. Hey. Seventy one. No, it's not it's not 10, 17. Oh, my God, what the fuck. What? You usually pick 17. You know, Hank, that's two times you pick 17 a line.

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Jake started an eight day one. So Hank thinks I'm cutting him by doing now you.

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No, Jake doesn't care if you won't go back to 17 next time. Lightning strikes twice. I love you guys talking. We don't know what to say on stage. Today's day to find shying away from the coming for your love shying away. The for your lover, take on me, take me. I'll be gone. Needless to say, the Senate spent means to. I mean, who better to be safe than sorry? It's going to take on me, take me up.

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I'll be gone. Things like you say just recently. You all got to enjoy all the time you take on me, take me up, I'll be gone.

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I'll be good enough. It's pardon my tape presented by barstool sports.