Okay.

Deep breaths. Let's take a deep breath. I told Lauren earlier that she was giving a little bit of meth vibes, and I think there's a lot of adrenaline coursing through her. There's a lot of adrenaline coursing. She's on the search for a missing woman.

It's absolutely correct. I am Liam Neeson right now? Yes. Okay. Well, well, well, well, well, It feels good.

We've recorded in person before, and I've missed it.

I missed it, too, and I feel like it is just the perfect moment, the perfect timing that I'm in New York for the cataclysmic event that is... It has not just shaken the globe. It has not just shaken the nation. It has shaken the planets. The solar system is cracking.

I mean, I'm already looking into the future and seeing, where were you during the Where the Fuck is Kate?

Where were you during the... You are absolutely so correct. I know. And where were you during the where that is Kate scandal?

Okay, let me just clear the air, everybody. I did not abdicate the podcast. I was at a lovely bachelorette party. I was off the grid. And basically, I went on vacation. Sorry, sorry, I went on vacation, and we went viral. I went on vacation and we went viral.

First of all, I love the fact that we went viral and you didn't have to do a fucking thing.

I mean, I mean, it's pretty luxurious. It's like when you put the right people in place and you set up things perfectly, you just let people do their work.

When you hire the right people. When you hire the right people. And you can trust them to execute all your jobs.

Yes, exactly. I mean, I've always said, Hire the right people and you'll never work a day in your life.

Fire fast, hire right. It's absolutely so correct. Everyone, so as I've been releasing Where the F is Kate, these videos, I've gotten so many messages that are like, Where the F is Kate? Where the F is Chandler? Okay, can we get a wellness check on Chandler.

I was stunning myself. I had terrible reception in Mexico. But thank you, Lauren, for holding it down, for steering the ship.

Okay, everyone, we're going to get into where the F is Kate. Don't worry, we're going to do a full deep dive right now on this entire saga. But before we get there, I just have to bring you and our audience up to speed on this journey. Okay, bring us up to speed. Because I think that it might have been good, by the way, that you were not in town. I'm sorry, because Because I just feel like- Because you can be the face of the podcast now. I just feel like, what if I messaged you and you were like, I don't know, is it insensitive? Could we not do that? Should we not? Well, you could have fudded me.

I could have fudded you. I think you have great instincts. And honestly, in moments of pop culture crisis, I think you really take the reins. And you're really good at the green screen. And when I saw the BTS of you filming a full 13-hour day recording, I was just like, thank God she's I'm at the helm of this.

Okay, so to give people some BTS of what happened, I was at home and it was just so funny because I saw on Courtney's broadcast channel, our wonderful sister, Courtney Gro. She's an influencer. We need to give her shoutouts now to help her grow. Totally.

So true.

The tables have really turned. So please everyone give Courtney Gro. She's a new influencer. She's starting out.

I mean, don't say her name anymore because she's only paying us to do three shoutouts. That's true.

Anyway, Courtney's broadcast channel, she was talking about Kate. She was like, What? Something suspicious here.

And Courtney, her sister, she's not someone who gets swept away with conspiracy.

I'll say she's not QI. She's not QI at all. She's very level-headed. And so I thought, If Courtney is riveted by this, something is going on. Sure. So basically, I got completely overtaken. I was down Twitter rabbit holes. I was just so obsessed. And then I realized she I was like, If I don't fucking do these reels, I do not hop on a green screen and clown on the ground, then I should just quit this podcast because- It should be done. I clearly just am not going to put in the work. So it was noon. We had someone coming and helping with the house. And it was so funny because Kagan, he was in his office, and normally I would let in the person, I would handle things. And I'm like, Kagan, you need to go help that person. And then literally, I had to tell them to be quiet. While you were filmed. Because I needed quiet on the set.

Quiet on the set. Where the fuck is Kagan?

Exactly.

That's literally what happened.

By the way, I mean, I was just making these reels. They hadn't done anything yet. So I just seemed like the biggest asshole in so annoying and embarrassing. It's not like I had any just for being so extra. Anyway, I went into a tear. And yeah, it has just been an incredible journey, everyone, to share the message, to share the mystery of where the Where the fuck is Kate Middleton? Let's just say it.

I want you to know that you've done a fantastic job. I said this in our group text. You have the beauty of Diane Sawyer and the flair of Nancy Grace. And I think those are your superpowers, truly.

Well, Chandler, we are not going to leave Stone Unturned today as we search for the woman Kate.

I think what has been really crazy about this scandal, and really different, and why it's become such a crazy train that's left the station, is that we are getting new information all the time. It is like an hour-by-hour scandal. And I think that is why we're now on part what? 17?

We're on part 17 right now. So we are getting... I think what's interesting about it It's not that necessarily we're getting new information from the palace. We're getting new breadcrumbs as to why these little bits of information the palace has given us are fucking lies and bullshit. So today, we're going to go over all of this. So I think we start at the beginning. Can we start at the beginning? Can we start at the beginning.

Let's start at the beginning. Okay. Let's take a deep breath. I told Lauren earlier that she was giving a little bit of meth vibes, and I think there's a lot of adrenaline coursing through her. There's a lot of adrenaline. She's on the search for a missing woman.

It's absolutely correct. I am Liam Neeson right now. And I am trying... What's it called? Lost? Taken? Anyway, exactly. Kate has been taken, and we need to We need to take her back. We need to take her back. So anyway, okay, deep breaths. Let's go way back to December. December 25th, Kate is pictured in a beautiful blue coat. Yes, I remember. Christmas Day looks beative. Church service. Serene. That brunette chestnut hair that we all are so swept away by any time a pat photo is dropped. Well, Chandler, that was the last time we saw this woman alive and well and healthy. Okay, and this is where it just gets immediately weird. Three days later, the royals are at Sandringham, where they're spending Christmas. An ambulance leaves Sandringham. It's like an ambulance. I think it's an ambulance.

Was it like a Range Rover ambulance?

It was multiple ambulances, I feel like.

And also a convoy.

It was a convoy, a motorcade of health problems in a vehicle form. Anyway, exiting Sandringham. Interestingly enough, this really did not get that much press. No, no, no. Which I think goes to show the power of the Royal family and what they can prevent from getting out there.

Yes.

So anyway, no one's really paying attention. That happens. Then another thing happens, Chandler. They announced, and I haven't shared this on TikToks yet, on reels.

Oh my gosh, is this a new bread crop?

This is a new bread crop. I mean, by the way, have you actually watched the reels? Yes. Okay, that's good. Just want to be clear.

I've watched for sure 80 % of them. Classic. And some of them twice.

Classic, classic. Okay, so this is a new breadcrumb. So apparently they announced that Kate and William, this is before the ambulance, they announced that Kate and William would be going to Italy in early 2024, in spring 2024.

On like a royal tour.

I don't have all the facts. Okay? This is the key piece of information. Got it. Going to Italy. Then on January 17th, the palace issues a notice. That Kate Middleton has undergone planned abdominal surgery the day before. She is expected to recuperate in the hospital for two weeks, and then she is expected to recuperate at home for several months, and we should not expect to see her until after Easter.

The words planned abdominal surgery have been running through my brain for the last two weeks.

Well, and can I just say, if It's a planned abdominal surgery, where they plan this, Chandler, and they know what the surgery is. Knowing the recovery timeline, knowing the surgery, why are they planning a trip to Italy? I'm sorry, why would you plan a trip to Italy if you're going to be on well if you're going to be ailing.

Yeah, I guess for me, I don't really know what a planned abdominal surgery that takes that long to recover from is. It's very concerning.

People are just really confused by this. Consider a two I think stay in the hospital is a really long time.

It's a ton of time. It's a really long time. It's a really long time.

Especially when you would consider that Kate Middleton is the type of... She got the best care in the world at home.

And she's young.

She's young.

We're not doctors, but we can clearly assess that two weeks in the hospital is a long time. That is a big deal. That's a big deal. Medically, that's a big deal. That's a big deal.

You heard it here first. And the other thing to consider... So what this said to me, excuse me. What this said to me is she needed to be near an operating room for two weeks because that's the only thing that differentiates really a hospital from her private home with private nurses.

Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, under close supervision.

Yeah, under close supervision.

So that also is really scary. Yeah. Okay.

Deep breaths. Deep breaths. Are you okay?

Is your heart rate okay?

I don't... Honestly, I'm glad I don't have an aura ring on right now or not to watch because I feel like I'm going to be telling you to go to the hospital.

I feel like... Yeah, I feel like you might need to be sedated after this.

After part 290, I'm going to have to be- You're going to have to have a planned abdominal surgery.

I need some horse tranquilizers after that.

Okay, so everyone starts speculating, and no one is thinking anything I think at this time is a miss other than this is a true health issue, and it's like, what is It's a health issue? Yeah. So then people are speculating that she has Crohn's disease, which is horrible and it obviously would make sense as to why it's hard for her to keep weight on. Because Kate Middleton has always been extremely thin.

Let's just say She's always been, I think, on the edge of what looks healthy. Yeah, yeah. Very, very small person.

Very frail. So it makes sense. Okay, this is shedding light on what she's going through. And apparently, if you get a bowel resection due to Crohn's disease, that takes a long time to recover from. It's a very big deal. So that's the consensus. Okay. So then we're just wishing Kate well.

Prayers.

Thoughts and prayers are going out to her. So another key piece of this is that King Charles is in the hospital at the same time as Kate. By the way, there's no photos of Kate entering or exiting the hospital. That's huge. There's only the video of the ambulance. So I'm sorry. We don't even know that she ever even went into the hospital. But there's photos of Charles entering and exiting. He was said to have left the same day as Kate, but no photos of Kate.

That is so bizarre that they left the same day.

So weird.

That's like, that seems like a crazy coincidence. It's not like the It's like, let's have him carpool home.

Exactly. And what was interesting about it is the King and Camilla, it's not like they saw them randomly behind a, I don't know.

No, it was a pose photo. It was like a pose, waving, waving. It might as well have been like they had a brand new baby. Yes, exactly.

Which makes you think that why are they having this so extra exit from the hospital if they're not trying to distract? Yeah. Okay. So then people are more and more concerned. Tina Brown made a very astute point on a morning show. I think she was talking to Gail King. But she said that they told us there would be no health updates. There would be no health updates, and they should have just stuck to that. But instead Instead, they released a family photo of Kate on Instagram. In the photo, she purportedly, just on first glance, she looks alive, she looks well, she's surrounded by her smiling children.

What Tina Brown says And what Tina Brown says is this is a health update.

This photo communicates that she's fine. So now we actually are getting updates.

Well, and let's back up slightly, because I do think that before we got the photo of the smiling family photo. People were, Where is Kate?

Wait, I'm sorry. Let's back up. Excuse me, everyone. Deepest apologies, as we need to go back in the chronology because, yes, people were freaking out Where is Kate? And then somehow the paparazzi got photos of her driving in Winsor. Right. Right.

There has started to be a public outcry of, This feels off. Why haven't we seen her? Why is there... Why have we gotten these photos of King Charles inside of the hospital? But nothing from Kate.

But nothing from Kate.

And I think it felt like all eyes were on the palace. So then they release the photo of her mother and allegedly Kate in a car driving. Some big sunglasses are on.

And yes, they don't release it, but it's clearly set up.

It's not released on their official channels, but it's like they allowed for it to happen. Exactly. Exactly.

And it's allegedly set up by them. What was so weird about this photo is it doesn't look like her. There's just something off.

I think that her face almost looks potentially a little swollen. She's got big sunglasses on. Yeah, it's one of the... It doesn't look exactly like Kate. The other thing that is off about the photo is another Photoshop thing that people are purporting. And that is, there's another wheel, like underneath. So you see the four wheels of the car, but then it looks like there's almost another wheel behind it. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Yes, I do. And it's like, it almost looks like a fake photo.

Right, right, right.

So the other thing that's interesting about these paparazzi shots of Kate, and I think this is all the pat photos we've gotten, or all the photos we've gotten, is there's always only one. You would think that if there was paparazzi taking photos, there would be 30. 30 photos at least. But no, there's just this one that hits the internet. And a lot of people, I saw one commenter, they're like, I've seen clear photos of Bigfoot. It is just so grainy.

It's so hard to see.

So anyway, this really gets, I think, rumors starting. People are really concerned. So then they drop on their Instagram, the photo of her, straight by her smiling children.

They do it to celebrate also UK Mother's Day.

And this is where the wheels fully come off the Royal bus, because this photo is so clearly photoshopped to within an inch of its life. It's basically deemed fake news by the news outlets that initially published it. So AP, they initially post the photo, then they issue a kill notice, essentially saying it's not like, Oh, this is airbrush. She doesn't have Are those smooth of skin? Or are those thin of arms. No, no, no. What they're saying is, We think this photo has been so manipulating. This photo is fake. It didn't actually even happen.

And isn't it true that they asked for the original photo to compare it to and they couldn't get that?

They asked for the original photo from the palace to please confirm this shoot happened.

Sure. This may have even photoshopped into Oblivion, but we know that there was an original photo that matches this to some degree. Exactly.

And the palace said no. So this is I think this is when everything... This is when I said, Quiet on the set. I had to take to the green screen. Because to me, it's just like, this is fucking bizarre.

Bizarre, bizarre. And I think, once again, It is a huge deal to get a kill notice. Everyone in the journalism community was writing and said they'd never seen it before. Never seen it before. From AP. It's a huge deal. It's a huge deal. Yeah. So the internet is Is that a word? Is that a flame? The internet is on fire.

The internet is absolutely on fire. And one thing that is also picking up speed in the news cycle is something that came out earlier, right after Kate was said to have been released from the hospital, is a Spanish journalist went on a record and said that Kate was in a coma, and she was close to death. Something went terrible wrong during her surgery, and something was horrifically wrong with Kate. So the palace clapped back and were like, That's absolutely not correct. They adamantly vehement denied it, and the reporter doubled down. She doubled down, which is interesting to me because I feel like the palace could sue, especially a bit... I don't know what outlet she's part of, but you would think that there's...

She could be in trouble if she's lying. Oh, yeah. It's not just she's some Twitter person who's, I'm doubling down. I don't care what you say, palace, blah, blah, blah. It's not me on the green screen doubling down. It's someone who's reputation and career is on the line.

Exactly. Now we have this palace dropped announcement. We have the weird ass photos. Right, right. Okay. Then dropped is the family photo that's fake and it's deemed fake news. Even on Instagram now, there's a warning that the photo is manipulated. I mean, Mark Zuckerberg is really doing a lot of work for this crisis. Oh my gosh.

Next to us.

You need to tell him that in his next performance.

I will. I will.

Okay, so then on February 25th, Chandler, several weeks after the Spanish journalist said that she was in a coma, Thomas Kingston, who used to date Pippa Middleton, this is an ex of Pippa Middleton's, he is found dead from a purportedly self-inflicted gunshot wound. Two days after that, Prince William pulls out from a planned speaking engagement at his godfather, King Constantine's Memorial Service.

King Constantine? Is that a real name?

Well, first of all, his real name is King Constantine of Greece. I just I would never miss King Constantine's funerals. Of course not. Especially if it's my godfather, especially if I'm supposed to talk at it.

It's quite rude.

It is really bad manners. And also, it's just a huge deal.

And it's for personal reasons.

For personal reasons. He also shows up a few days after that with a bruise on his neck. Yes, a bruise right here. So this is a real you didn't see.

I didn't have good service. Okay, I didn't have good service.

He shows up with a bruise right here on his neck. Is it literally where a thumb would be, indicating a struggle.

Yes.

Like, yes. Oh my gosh. So people are like, What is happening? Is it possible?

Was it a hickey? Is there any way it was a hickey?

I don't think it was a hickey. I mean, who knows? So people are like, Is there any way that he found out something about Kate and Thomas Kingston, and there was a struggle. King Constantine? So the big theory right now, everyone, is that King Constantine was actually fucking Kate Middleton, and that is why he pulled out from- That's what happened.

And that's why he's dead. That's why he's dead.

Exactly. And Thomas Kingston told Prince William and said that you can't kill him. Prince William.

And it has this all wrap up.

And Thomas Kingston tries to kill- Tries to kill Prince William.

And then William shoots- Shoots Thomas Kingston.

And then goes in- You guys, we figured it out.

Oh, my gosh. No. So this is funny.

This is no laughing matter.

It's no laughing matter. It is no laughing matter if Thomas Kingston really did die by suicide. He fully did. It is really horrible. Or alleged suicide.

Because people really are unsure. Anyway, honestly, this is going to be a niche reference, but I'm just imagining a Joseph Smith jailhouse, like a scramble. Just two men with a gun. Anyway. So the other theory, and this is very far fetched, but Chandler, we have to get into it.

You guys. As I did watch some of the reels, I just love Lauren's... I'm going to leave no stone unturned, which is basically the biggest caveat for I'm going to share all the craziest theories.

I'm going to share the craziest loathe shit you've ever heard.

But I'm leaving no stone unturned.

That's probably entirely fake.

Entirely fake, yeah.

But anyway, Chandler, when I was searching for answers about Kate, I kept running up against a particular comment, which is that she had moved behind an ice wall. You haven't watched this, really, either. Oh, my gosh.

Can I I have to say, too, when I could get the reels to load, I was on a bacheloret trip. I felt like I couldn't be watching reels for my own podcast around other people.

Fair, fair. You haven't been home for several days, though. Anyway, okay.

There's a lot of content. There's a lot of people collude to these reels, by the way. I know, I know. And I was getting text from people saying, Like, thank goodness for your sister, she's doing the reporting. Anyway. Yeah. Okay.

So, well, I'm actually terrified that you haven't seen this real because you're not going to like what's going to come next. Okay. And by the way, I got some angry messages for this real.

But she's leaving no stone unturned.

I have to leave no stone unturned on our search for the truth about Kate. Okay. So I'm like, what is an icefall? What's going on?

So the theory is that a lot of powerful people are disappearing. Oh, I did see this one. Oh, you did? Yes, I did. I did it. Yes, yes. Okay.

So a lot of powerful people are disappearing. The Pope has the flow. Okay.

My eyes are going to clasp over.

He's in the hospital. Yeah. Mitch McConnel, Chandler, he has stepped down. He's stepped down from two. He's announcing stepping down. Jacob Rothschild, okay? Yes. Baking Dynasty family.

He's dead. Dead.

Okay. Only 87. I mean, that doesn't make any sense.

King Constantine? Dead.

Thomas Kingston? Dead. So as I said, am I real? Why is everyone dying or disappearing? So the theory is, okay, that something- These aren't stones.

I would say these are more like pebbles. I'm going to leave no pebble dirt.

You guys, in my search for the truth, I must bear it all. What they say...

Wait, that's Those are all the names, right? That's it?

Well, and then King Charles has cancer. He's no longer seen Camilla was out of office.

Right. Yeah, yeah. That is weird to me. It's weird. It feels like if ever there was a time for the B-list or royals to step up, it's now. Exactly.

So there might be something to the icefall. So basically what they're saying, what the idea is, is that all these powerful people are part of some conglomerate of elites that do horrible misdeeds.

Shmit, shmit. Does it rhyme with Pizzagate?

I don't know Pizzagate. I don't actually believe in this theory, by the way.

But no stone unturned.

But no stone unturned. I absolutely do not believe in it. But what many people do believe, including a personal friend who I got vehement messages from who believes this wholeheartedly with all their heart and soul. What these people believe is that these powerful figures have moved behind an icewall in Antarctica.

Oh, a physical icewall.

Yes, in Antarctica. So apparently, you can't really fly over Antarctica. And the theory is that beyond Antarctica, it's not just like the... It's not where the Earth drops off. It's actually where other continents exist. And Chandler, a very advanced... A very advanced world, okay? Where all these powerful people can escape so they don't have to suffer for the crimes they committed in our world. Okay.

I'm digesting hearing that again. Okay. Anyway. No stone unturned.

No stone unturned. As I said on TikTok- So Kayt is there.

So Kayt is there because of her since here.

Exactly. She has pieced out to be in the ice wall because it's all about to come out with the phone- That's crazy. With Mitch McDonald. Someone said, Do we think that Kate Middleton left William for Mitch McDonald? And I said, It's definitely possible that they're fucking in Antarctica. Like, fully.

I'm honestly glad that I wasn't around because I would have put on the brakes. And if I had put on the brakes while you were trying to get this- Trying to pedal. Trying to pedal, we would not be where we are. So I am just grateful for the way things work. I'm God bless the broken road that got us here.

Like, literally God works in mysterious ways.

You were meant to take it. It was meant for me to be off the grid. A hundred %.

So as I said to you on reels, though, while that's very imaginative, I have a different idea about what's... Why don't you just get that, get out your yawn. She's a little bored.

I'm not bored.

I'm not bored.

By the fact that the Earth is from that. I'm not bored. I I'm not bored. I'm not bored. What part are we in? Are we in part 10? No, I'm just curious. I feel like there's so much to get to.

There is so much to get to. So let's keep moving. I'm moving. Okay. I said on TikTok, very imaginative. That's not the theory I Yeah. Okay. So I... Yes. Disclaimer, I don't believe Antarctica. I don't believe in QAnon. So back to the manipulative photos, okay? Antarctica is not real, so we got to figure it out somewhere else.

The Palace releases a... Just to clarify, you're not saying Antarctica is not real, as a place on the Earth?

Oh, correct. I do believe in it in Antarctica. I just don't believe that elites live in an advanced world beyond an isol there.

I think what you believe is hazy to probably most people at this point. So I just want to make sure we're crystal clear. Perfect.

Thank you, Chama, for clarifying. So the next part that's really, really weird, after all this drama over the edited photo, is that Kate Milton hops on Instagram, allegedly, and it's like, Hey, you all. She does an We need to read it.

I think we need to read it because the statement is so bizarre. And this is where, for me, the wheels are completely off. We are in a full tailspin. Because this statement is released 24 hours later, which to me shows people are spinning behind the scenes trying to figure out how to respond. What to do.

Yeah. And also, let's just remember before we read it, that the royal motto is never complain, never explain. So it's definitely not post an Instagram story, responding to what people are saying and giving your take. The royals, they just don't give in to this chatter. Yes. But Kate is posting on stories, so why don't you read that? Yes.

So we are to believe that the day after Mother's Day in the UK, after people lit her on fire for her photoshopping job, she apologizes. And this is what she says in an Instagram story post, in a very informal... She says, Like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing. I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused I hope everyone's celebrating had a very happy Mother's Day. C. Okay.

It's so, it's so weird. Can we just imagine the idea that Kate Middleton, that princess, the princess... People are so angry. I'm not calling her Catherine, the Princess of Wales. Can we just imagine Catherine, the Princess of Wales, okay, is photoshopping this photo into Oblivion. The things that she was photoshopping didn't make any sense. It was like random parts of a window. It was the sleeve of- Fingers. Fingers. It was fingers. Sleeve of Charlotte's jacket or a sweater.

I can understand if Kate said, I love FaceTune. Correct. I wanted to give myself a foxface. A hundred %. I wanted that Instagram look.

I've always been after a ponytail lift, and I I thought this is the app where I can achieve that dream.

I've got nothing better to do while I'm laying in bed than to perfect this. Exactly. But yeah, no, we're supposed to believe that Princess Kate is laying in bed with an Adobe membership Like, editing her photos. Like, and also, yeah, it's just... None of it is believable. None of it's believable. And it's coming directly from her. It's not from the Palace Press or any, one of their editors or something. It is from Kate herself.

It's from Kate herself.

It is so strange.

So then, okay, people figure out that the photo... And so then it's uncovered that the photo of her is actually just lifted from her British Vogue cover. It's the same exact identical photo. And Photoshop experts are like, I see exactly where this was cloned. You can see exactly that this photo didn't happen. This was 100% taken from this other photo. So it's a fake photo.

And where are the Where's the kid's photos from? Do we know? Or did the kids pose with a stand-in? We don't know.

Yeah, right, right. So then also, Tina Brown, by the way, she says she does not believe that Kate put out that story.

Yeah, right, right. Oh, absolutely not. Nobody is believing that she She actually did that or actually then posted it to their Instagram.

And I think the thing that we all need to keep in mind as we're talking about this is all of this could be resolved by one 10 minute, five minute, one minute zoom of Kate just being like, Hello, everyone. I did have surgery. I really appreciate all the well wishes, but I'm recovering at home.

Thank you so much.

Like, literally- One video.

One five second video would stop All of it.

All of it. They can't produce that. They can't do it. They can't produce that. The only thing they can produce are fake photos, which brings us to the next fake photo, which is the next day, they have a photo of her leaving with William due to a private appointment. This is another one where it's just one photo is released. If there's paparazzi, you would think there would be a bunch of different shots and angles.

It's not really a photo of her. It's a photo of barely her profile. Bare.

It makes this whole thing so much spookier.

Yes. It makes it makes It feel like, wait, have there been body doubles all along?

It's so weird. So then, of course, internet slews determine and figure out that this is actually literally lifted from a photo of her in 2016. And you can tell exactly because she has her hair in this elaborate It's a separate, beautiful updo, and she has this hat on. And they show the photo like this fading to the original to the edited one. And you can see it's exactly the same one. And it's like, really, so Kate, for her private appointment when she's ailing, she's had this horrible surgery She's getting full glam, full up to.

To go somewhere putting on this hat to go to a private appointment? This doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense, and it feels really clumsy.

And if she could do that, Chandler, then she could definitely do a little video.

I think where the spell is fully broken is the fact that she herself wrote that post, allegedly. That, to me, is where this feels like something is really off and that there are lies being told to us because it doesn't feel like it's actually a real person controlling this narrative. Right, exactly. I think another interesting point that was brought up by a friend of mine was, do you think they had Kate take the blame for the photoshopping edits or errors? Because people would feel sorry for her more than if it was like, 'Sorry, we've got shitty photoshoppers in the palace press house or whatever.

Well, that's a really good point. So Harry said when he was doing all of his interviews for spare, and he talked about it in the memoir, that the palace will have someone They want to take the fall when they want to distract from what's going on with another member.

Yeah, interesting.

Which brings us to Prince William. So what people are suspecting is something really bad is going on with Prince William, and Kate's whole... This whole crisis. And then pinning it on her, the Photoshop on her, is them deflecting from whatever is going on with Prince William. Okay? Okay.

So, again- Now we're getting closer to part 16.

Now we're getting closer. So the next part that is just so chilling is we put this all together and what we realized is we have not seen this woman since Christmas, and all we have are fake photos of her.

Another thing I've been wondering. Where is her mom Where's her dad? Where's her sister? I know we had her uncle say something on Big Brother or whatever. The uncle.

Yeah.

Where is her family in all of this? Are they being silenced by the Crown? I guess I would expect something from them.

Well, so there's just so many things that point to all different things. So one is that Pippa Middleton is summering or vacationing in St. Bart's for part of us. Okay. Okay. By the way, her family is connected, I think owns Edent Rock. Oh, wow. Okay. So fun fact. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Fun for her. Fun for her. So she's on vacation. And what people are saying is like, Okay, well, if Kate's so ill, if something is so wrong with her, you don't think your sister would just be off on vacation? Totally.

Yeah. Yeah.

But then the uncle. So the uncle is on celebrity Big Brother. And this is where PSA to any Like, very rich people out there, you got to have the wealth trickled down enough so your uncle doesn't have to go on celebrity Big Brother.

So true. It's so true. We've always said that. We've always said that.

They could have avoided this whole thing with a few direct deposits to the uncle. But instead, the uncle is on celebrity Big Brother, and he's asked about Kate. And the phrasing that he used when he described what was going on was so, I think, revealing. Really? Yes. So he says she doesn't want to talk about it, and he says it's a code of etiquette. So unless it's announced, then I'll give my opinion. It's announced. It's announced.

Unless it's... It's. It's is everything.

Oh, but then the other part. And so this is why this is so confounding, right? There's so many conflicting pieces of information. He says, She's getting the best care in the world. She's getting the best care in the world. It's announced. It's announced. He said she's getting the best care in the world. The family circled the wagons around her. So unless it's announced, I'm not going to give comment. So the idea is, I think when it says she's getting the best care, that brings me back to a serious medical issue.

Yeah, of course.

Because why would you say she's getting amazing care if she's getting a divorce?

Right. Yeah. Unless she's at a spa or somewhere.

Exactly. Or Chandler, if she's getting the best mental health care. That is what makes sense. So something is going on by that phrase, it's if it's not. We know something's happening, and the palace is just putting out all this propaganda, essentially. It's so crazy. And the key thing for me is that Kate is not participating. She's very clearly not cooperating with the palace.

Because none of this narrative feels like it's coming from her.

Yeah, and as Tina Brown says, she's so punctilious, and she's such a perfectionist when it comes to her image. Look at how perfectly coiffed she is, always. Her and her children are always perfectly groomed. This has been so sloppy It's been so weird. It's honestly been so tacky and low-wind.

Eerie as well. Eerie?

It doesn't make any sense. And the other thing is, obviously, all of us are a flutter on Instagram, on TikTok, talking about all this, and you would think that she would want to shut it down quickly, especially when William's affair comes into play. Please. Okay. So my theory is that she's getting the best mental health care available because something does need to be announced, okay? I don't think she ever went into that hospital. I think that that ambulance took her away from Sandringham. It's all a lie. Absolutely. And what people are saying, it's all completely alleged, you don't know if any of this is true, but what they're saying, the theory in London, I've got so many DM's, I've gotten this from so many sources, which is why I finally went on the records talking about it. I did not at first because I'm just like, Listen, this doesn't make any sense. You know? Yeah. But basically what a lot of people are saying is that William, of course we all know, had an alleged affair with Rose Hanbury in 2018. We found out about it in 2019, barely.

There's no evidence of it. There's even very little speculation you can even find online to really point a finger to like, Oh, that's what happened. Exactly. And do you remember when we...

Okay, so there was one Twitter thread about it. Yes, yes. One Twitter thread, by the way, that was promptly deleted. Yes, yes. And so you could only find screenshots of the Twitter thread. But do you remember when we read it to Grandma Donna? Oh my gosh. Yes.

Is that so funny? Yes. Wait, that's crazy. When we were in Utah. Yeah, when we were in Utah.

We've been still have obsessed, you guys.

For so long.

Anyway. I know.

I did a shout out. She didn't love it. I remember it was devastating to her. It was just...

It was so funny because people on TikTok said a shout out to Grandma Donna on one of the reels we didn't watch. But people were like, Oh, I love that your grandma loved the hot goss. And I'm like, She actually was too pure.

She was like, I don't like hearing any of those.

Okay, but anyway, the theory is that something happened where Kate found out that the affair has never stopped. Okay? The affair has never stopped. And there are two theories as to the cataclysmic event that has given her a mental breakdown. Okay. The first theory is that Rose is pregnant with William's baby. Yeah. By the way, we have not seen Rose. We do not know where Rose is.

There was, though, that press release right after the the Photoshop nightmare got out. The gaffe, yeah. Where they said, didn't they have a picture of Lady Rose?

So this is a really key point, I think, for bringing it up. So when the palace is releasing all this fake shit, The Telegraph or some UK publication releases a profile that says, Who is the Martianess of Chumly? Lady Rose Hanbury.

What are these names? What are these words?

Well, the interesting thing is that- Marmelade Marmalade and chutney, that's all I heard. Exactly. So they released a recipe for marmelade and chutney, and this really threatened the royals. No, they had this profile ready to go. And what they said to the royals was, Hey, if you don't give us something on where Kate is, we are fully going to go ham, and we're going to talk about Rose, which you have never let us talk about, but we're done with the fake bullshit. Give us info on Kate, or we're going in on the affair.

I need the HBO mini-series about this. I need the spotlight-esque journalism, people in the UK, boots on the ground when this is happening. Press go on the Lady Rose marmelade A great story. Hulu needs to get out a mini-series in three days.

So anyway, so the speculation is that Rose is either pregnant, and we have not seen her, and she could be in her second trimester, completely invisible right with William's child that she's not going to give up, which would be, by the way, so fucking humiliating for Kate. Oh, absolutely. You consider how much she's given her life to this mom. She does not put a foot out of turn. She's so perfect. She's so buttoned up. She's the perfect heir apparent and wife and future queen.

Also, we haven't even gone here. We haven't even talked about Harry or Megan. But she was also... Kate was made to look like a terrible person throughout that whole scandal.

Yes, completely. And she just takes it off- Has to just hold her head up high and, yeah, turn the other cheek. And it's a quick tangent, but I do think that as a royal, yes, it looks so fabulous, but it also looks like a cage.

Right. You're a prisoner to some degree.

There's something so fun about living your own life and making your own choices and building businesses and being someone who does something. And I just feel like as a royal, it's like, to me, it just literally looks like going to church a lot.

I was talking about this with the group of friends over the weekend. And I think this is an important thing to realize. The royals also do not have unlimited money.

Yes, correct.

And that is something that I am continually reminding myself of because I think, yeah, even if you're a prisoner, so to speak, where you have an unlimited funds, at least you can do whatever you want, they actually don't have unlimited money where they can just do whatever they want in their off time.

Well, 100 %. And also they just can't do whatever they want. It's not like Kate can get in her thong bikini in St.

Bar. Totally. It's just enjoy the day. Yeah. And then fly back to do a hospital charity event. Exactly.

No, you can't. You literally... These people are so famous and so hounded. The only places they can really vacation are private places.

They keep cold and cloudy. Yes.

And with no vibe, with no strangers around. No. I mean, let's talk about the fact that they can't take great vacations.

No wonder she's gone. That's the scoop. No wonder she's gone. We send you love. We hope you're like, dancing on a table somewhere in Ibiza.

We get it. Exactly.

Is that how you say it? Yes, I think it. Okay, good.

So, okay. So, back, where were we?

Were we derailed about vacations? Lady Rose.

Okay. So the other theory about Lady Rose is that her four-year-old daughter, Kate found out that that is William's Yes, that she's William's child.

Well, now I want to look up a photo of her daughter. I know.

Should we look it up?

Yeah. Okay.

I mean, are there any clear photos?

Well, all I'm getting is a book by someone. There actually is a book called Lady Rose's Daughter, which is making this Google search a little hard.

I can't find any clear photos, so if anyone can send one to us, that'd be great. And there's also another rumor that I'm going to share on the pod.

I know where we're going with this one. And I knew it was going to have to come out eventually. Oh, this is when I could wish I could put a brown paper bag over my face.

Okay, I got this tip from multiple people, and I'm just... We got to say it. I couldn't say it with a front face of camera, though. So I do have limits.

Are you happy about that? Are you going to say it, though? Yeah. But this is going on? This is going to be- It's a little different to be green screening about butt action, okay?

Then in front of a mic, with a podcast, I think. Anyway, a theory, allegedly- This is for my in-laws.

This is for my disclaimer.

We don't know this for sure. We don't know if this is true. This could be a total lie. But the theory- I would like to be completely...

I am not sanctioning this, okay?

The theory is that William- Can you spell it? Can you just spell it out? I'm sex positive. The theory is that William enjoys anal play, specifically plapegging. And Rose does as well.

You can't even get it out.

And Rose does as well. And that- We heard it- is not into it. And that is also a big thing that they're talking about in London. And that's a reason that this affair has continued.

And this will be my last episode on pop apologist. We've decided to part ways because I cannot be associated with content like this.

Wait, can we talk about... So wait, Chana knew this rumor.

Yes, I knew this rumor. I knew this rumor, and I knew that Lauren also knew this rumor, and we had access to this information. And every time I open up my phone, there's a new part from Lauren. I mean, if you notice, she literally did a on an airplane. You can hear a 747 behind her. The dedication that this woman has is incredible. I'm very lucky to be in business with her. So true. Very true. Great employee. But, so I knew Lauren had this information. So I am, and I can see that you are just willing to leave no stone unturned, as you would say. So I'm just waiting for Lauren to share this. And so with the latest part 17 or 16 that you posted where you go, and this is the most earth-shattering news you're ever going to hear you that I have not shared yet. I'm bracing myself. I'm gripping my seat as I'm watching it because I'm like, here comes the pegging rumor. She's going to literally share it. There was no conversation with me. Hey, do you think I should mention this? Is this too crazy? It's fully live. It's live.

It's been up for hours. My in-laws have seen it. My in-laws have seen it. Anyway, anyone- The relief that washed over your body when you realized. Yeah, when I realized that it was not that was so pure and sweet. Anyway, now that that's all gone out of the window because we've just talked about it. That's correct.

Anyway, that I've heard from multiple sources. It's probably not true, though, if the palace's attorneys are listening. That's our legal disclaimer.

And once again, to the palace attorneys, I'm leaving this podcast. We're parting ways.

Okay, so you guys, this is obviously the biggest cluster, and the weirdest part about it is it just... They just don't stop They don't release a video that she doesn't get on Zoom. We are literally talking about pegging Prince William.

She's got to say it again.

And this could be halted with a Zoom. So clearly, Kate is not cooperating There's another theory, which I need to share that does not involve any...

Is this the craziest one?

There's no backdoor in this theory. Okay. Yeah. Sweet relief. So there's another theory. Remember how Megan said in the Cut article that she did not sign anything, no NDA?

Yeah. Okay.

So our dear friend Kyle, he had this theory last night, and I think it could be so correct. He said, Don't you think for the heir apparent that they would be a lot more buttoned up? Sure, sure.

Yeah.

And so the theory is that when she married William, that she signed basically her life away. She signed an NDA, the most air tight NDAs in the world. She's just completely under their control. Who knows? They might even have a conservatorship for her. Who knows?

And so the theory is that right now, they are literally keeping her prisoner.

Oh my gosh. So when she found out all this stuff and she wanted to go A-wall, I'm going to go A-wall? They're like, No, you're not. You're actually going to sit in this room.

Oh my gosh. It's like, I know there has been pushback on all this speculation and the fact that people are like, just let this woman rest. Let her recuperate. Let her recuperate. But I'm sorry, there are just too many weird things for us to just be like, Oh, she's It's like resting, and this is just the internet going crazy. Exactly. I'm sorry. There's too many things that are not adding up. Exactly.

And I think that that is why something really big is coming. So if it is announced, to quote her uncle, it will be announced. Clearly, something's Something is happening. Something is going on. Of course, I wish... We hear about the icefall. I wish an advanced world does exist.

It would be great to move there. Okay, okay. You're going full circle, coming back to how you wish Q&On was real. I'm just kidding. Okay, Just making sure that's where we're ending the episode.

No, no. I wish this is benign. This is just her being like, actually, no, I want to recover. And sorry, I'm not going to give these papers on the internet their moment. Totally. I actually just want to recover.

I hope we look like total idiots.

I hope we look like total clowns.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I fear, Chana.

I know. Something greater.

I just fear that we're right. Something bigger as a foot.

Yeah. I want to just briefly touch on Megan now. Megan and Harry. Okay. Someone asked me, What do you think about Megan and all this? Do you think she knows where Kate is? I don't think she knows where Kate is, for the record. No, definitely not. What I do think, I think Megan is sitting on her big sectional in Monacido and she's got a big old bowl of SkinnyPop. And she is just refreshing Twitter.

Oh, I mean, she's taking a break from Duolingo. Yes. Okay. And she is absolutely... She's refreshing all my reels. She is loving every second of this.

Every second. She's so vindicated. I feel like she's... Yeah, I feel like she's absolutely vindicated. And I think that this whole crazy, eerie situation makes me feel like she made the right decision.

Well, of course. Also, it also sheds a lot of light on the dynamics between Harry and William. So a lot of people say that Harry and William's relationship started to become fractured around the time of the rumored affair.

I think we've also talked about this, too. I mean, when we were reading palace papers, we've definitely touched on this, and that's the theory that I like to believe. Yes.

And that Harry was like, Okay, you are not going to do to... You're not going to do to your wife what our dad did to our mother. And so this whole... This thing is so corrupt. This is so gross.

Right. And I also want to say, Harry was really good friends with Kate when her and William were dating. You know? It's like our Courtney and Wyatt a little bit.

Oh my gosh. If Courtney was like, I would be moving to another continent as well. I love Courtney, but if she steps out on Wyatt.

Totally. We're going to move. We're going to abdicate or whatever. We're going to abdicate the Bledso sisterhood. Yeah.

And so anyway, I can understand that making Harry just be like, I'm out.

Peace. I do wonder, though, if they are... If he is trying to, behind the scenes, say, William, you just need to come out and come clean or something. I wonder what's happening.

Okay, well, the other thing that people are saying is Harry...

It's also when you say the other thing people are saying, it might just be one broke comment on Reddit. But the other thing people are saying, the other thing that's being reported. It's very vague.

But the other thing that's everywhere right now on one person's TikTok channel is that... No, the other thing that... And now I've lost my train of thought. What was he going to say? So many.

So many stones turned.

So many pebbles. No, Harry, No. The other thing is remember how Harry went to the UK for that four, five minute visit? Yes, yes, yes. People are like, maybe they summoned him because they needed him in person because they're not going to put it... They're not going to put it in writing. They're not going to put it in writing. They're not going to be something he can record. They need it in person. He goes through a metal detector. He searched. They need an in-person communication between him and King Charles, where King Charles is like, We need your help.

Kate's in prison or like, Please look at our prisoner. This is what is going to happen to you.

Kate's in an arctica. We need your help to go get her. No, we don't know. Do you want to go? The ticket to the icefall, it leaves this date. No, we don't know what that conversation was, but could it have been like, Actually, everything is completely hitting the fan? Kate and William are divorcing.

We actually need you and Megan back to be some beacon.

Let's just say this, Sharon. Can you imagine a world where Kate and William divorce, and Harry and Megan go back, and they are the working royals?

Oh my gosh. Kate, crazy.

I mean, crazy!

Crazy. Crazier things have happened.

Crazier things have happened. Wow.

Lauren now needs to go take a four-day nap.

I need to go take a Xanax.

I need to go to sleep. Go to sleep!

Go to sleep! Kelly Van Simone style.

I just want to say the fact that you recorded a green screen reel from the airplane is everything to me. Did anyone say anything to you as you were seated next to them?

Let me just tell you the worst part about that.

Yeah. It wasn't the loud rushing sound behind you?

I wish I had a mic for that. Oh, the one of us is opportunity, Chama. No, the worst part about that is like, you guys, these aren't like one-take situations. So you know I'm doing it multiple times. Of course you are. It's like, part 16. Where the bed is Kate?

Did you have someone seated next to you? Yes.

This woman knows no bounds, and thank goodness, because she's gotten us here.

But, wow.

I have no shame. And, I'm going to do anything, get this pot off that, then grab it. Which you guys, we actually might have just taken off.

Crazy town.

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