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Well, well, well. I don't even know how to start out this episode. I feel so ill. Like, I genuinely do not feel well right now. I'm not saying that am feeling super well as well.

I think I had my first anxiety panic attack two nights ago. A lot has been happening and it continues to happen and things are coming out in real time and this chaos shows no signs of stopping. So yes, we do not feel well, by the way. So, everyone, we're recording this on Tuesday afternoon. This will be released as soon as possible.

But yesterday is when the alleged videos and photos of Kate came out leaving Windsor's farmers market or whatever shop. The farm shop. So I thought it was all over when that first came out. It appears to not be over in the slightest, and it's hard for me to really take a breath and know how to even do this episode. So I think here's a few things to say.

Okay, first of all, we're so thrilled to be here to talk this through with all of you. We're grateful that you're here and we appreciate you taking the time to be gathered here with us today. My tone feels like it's changing a little bit. Okay. Okay.

I feel like when this first was going on, I thought something was going on, but I don't know, I just was like, this is crazy. We're having fun. She's going to come out at any moment and this is all going to be just wild speculation and TikTok doing their thing. Girls girling, as you put it, on Instagram. But it feels like it's just getting darker and more sinister, I think as we begin week two of this entire ordeal, scandal, whatever you want to call it, it feels like we are no closer to the truth.

It feels like we're no closer to the truth. And every day that goes by that we're no closer to the truth, it seems like, wow, there must be something really big that's happening, otherwise they would just literally put a lid on this so easily with a quick, high res zoom. It's that simple. Yeah, it's that simple. We literally went on TMZ TV to do a documentary.

It took 15 minutes high res. It was so seamless. They had a crew. It is not expensive, right? It would be so fast for them to have Kate address the public.

And by the way, this is a public figure. This is the princess of Wales, her Royal Highness, correct. Whose life is paid for by the british taxpayer. So at this point, with public speculation going so rampant, I just feel like they do owe that to us. They owe that especially to the british people.

I don't remember who said this, whether it was in a DM or. I don't even remember, or it was a group chat. But the queen was able to get on Zoom for the last six months or so of her life when she know. Horribly affected by cancer. Right?

Bone cancer. Yeah. Tina Brown said it. She was wheelchair know. Her condition was grave, but she was still appearing on Zoom.

Exactly. She was still walking out on the balcony. So if they could put these rumors to rest, they would. And I, in my Naya vitae, thought they had yesterday, but they have not. Rumors are swirling even more.

The heat has been turned up on this whole scandal. So here is what I want to do. I want to rewind to where we were last episode, where we finished. We are not going to recap a single thing from that episode. Okay, everyone, there's been too much that's developed.

So if you have not listened to where the F is Kate Middleton, you need to listen to it first before you listen to this one, because we're not recapping. This is not TLC. Okay? We are going straight for the new content. Straight for the new content.

It's not sister wives. We're not rehashing old content for a third of an episode because we're cheap programming. Right. This is the latest and greatest. I mean, I think also there's just so much still to unpack.

Like every day has brought new developments. Yes. Okay. And so without belaboring it, we finished the episode last week basically saying, here's a lot of crazy, wild theories. I mean, the theory we said at the end of the episode last week, I would never have said that.

Honestly, if it was reported to me by a source. If it was reported to me by a source, I wouldn't go there. But it just seemed like fan fiction to me. Sure. It seemed like pure entertainment.

So after that episode concluded, we continued to be on the search for Kate, and I got a DM from a friend. But now this friend is very credentialed. He or she owns a business, operates in society. It's not a friend in an asylum. This is very much a friend who is a contributing, rational part of society.

Also, I'll say this is someone you've met in person. I'm not going to say where this person lives, obviously, but this person I know very well. I have seen many times in person, I think as well, it's not just a faceless user x three dming us with information. This is way more tangible than just like a miscellaneous Internet theory we got sent. And by the way, I will say it has been very crazy because I've seen a literal news article come out that cites one of our TikTok Instagram videos as their sole source for a specific thing.

Yesterday, I saw a headline that said news could break at any moment from the palace. And it was like 1 hour ago. Like the article had been posted and we were the source. We were the source. And I'm sorry, but they didn't come to us to ask us for verification, for confirmation.

Where did this rumor come from? Nothing. So now I just trust the news so much less. But anyway, my friend is very credible, not a conspiracy theorist as well. This friend I would trust to leave my child with to take to the hospital if my child had a terminal illness and needed to get there in 20 seconds.

Whoa, this is a friend. I would put my child in their arms. Okay, okay. So this friend said to me, hey, I have a friend and they are very connected in this world, and I'm going to connect you to them. I believe this friend and I trust this source.

So I spoke with this source and said knew two people inside the palace, different palaces, and I can't tell you which ones they are. Said, I'm only going to tell you information both of them have told to me, not knowing what each other has said. Okay, so we haven't even had this conversation. You don't even know the details here. So this source said to me, I'm going to share with you information I have been told from two different sources in two different palaces.

And I'm only going to share with you as what I think is happening based on what they have independently told me, not knowing that I'm in two different conversations. Got it? Okay. Like two separate people not knowing that their storylines might be connected. Exactly.

And also, this source has told me a lot more. But this source is very careful. And the source, I'm not going to say he or she, so sorry, it's hard to get these sentences out, but this source is very careful to delineate what has been independently confirmed by this source's insiders. And what is something this source is just speculating on based on information this source believes. Okay, this is what the source says.

The source says you're actually not far off at all. It just caught me something. It was chilling. It was chilling. The source says, you're not far off at all.

And it's way more sinister than anyone believes or knows. And by the way, I hope this is all wrong. I hope this is all wrong. I don't relish sharing this information, and I just want to say that as we continue this, my great hope is that Catherine, the princess of Wales, has just had a facelift, and that's why she's all blurry. That was the one thing on the drive over here that made my stomach go from completely nauseous to, okay, I can breathe.

So that's, for me, still the most plausible reason they're keeping her so under wraps. But back to what this source told me. The source says, no, you're absolutely onto way more than you realize. It's way more sordid than anyone knows. And what the source says is that she did have a mental breakdown.

It did have something to do with a royal love child. Okay? The Rose affair is basically a fact. According to this source, everyone knows it. Right.

I'm going to start referring to the source as they, because it's very hard to say without giving away this person's gender. So what they said is that Catherine, the princess of Wales, not only found out that Rose had a love child with William, but that William would no longer be keeping Rose completely under the COVID of darkness. He was not going to keep her a secret. He was done hiding her, and that she just had to put up with the fact that Rose was going to be rolled out within their inner social circles. By the way, this source said that William is nothing like his royal Persona.

Nothing like. I mean, and we've heard that from other places, too. I mean, think about what Harry said in spare. Harry said that he and William got into a physical altercation, right? Yeah.

William attacked him physically. Prince Harry is on the record saying that, by the way, remember how Prince brother. That's his own brother. I have the chills. Do you remember, Chandler, that Prince Harry also said he had enough information to write another book?

Woof. But he's releasing that, I think there's so much to uncover. Okay. But anyway, so that's what the source said. William is nothing like people see him as, right?

He's actually very impetuous, very impulsive, a very dark man. Okay. And what the source says is people think that he's this nice, warm, smiling royal. What they don't realize is that his image is entirely crafted and manufactured by Kensington palace. Well, absolutely.

And they have to protect him at all costs. At all costs. They literally have to protect him. Because their jobs depend on it. Like, all these people have cush jobs working in the palace, feeling important, working in an environment that's probably very beautiful.

They're well connected and higher echelons of society, they know things everyone wants to know. Okay, remember what Megan said? She said that she got in so much trouble because she expected the palace staff to work hard. She said, know, at the palace, it's just like people stay in the jobs forever. She just basically made it seem like no one wants to work these days.

She just made it seem like these people love their cushy gigs. Okay. And it just tracks that these people are protecting the monarchy at all costs because in so much, they're protecting themselves. Yeah. And I think they believe in the institution.

I mean, they do, but I think I'm more skeptical of that because I think people most of all in life protect their own homes, the food they put on their own tables. Yeah. It's in their best interest if the monarchy continues to look good. Their actual, for in a lot of cases, okay. And paying the rent depends on the monarchy being upheld.

So that's this entire palace's job is to uphold this image of Prince William. Also, remember what Meghan said in her interview with Oprah? So Oprah asked, was it what it appeared like? You're with her. You're with Princess Catherine.

You're with Kate. She's teaching you. She's helping you. She's cheering you on. You're her new sister.

And Megan looks at her with that tragedy eye makeup, in the words of Tina Brown, and says, it's nothing like what it looks like. Wow. In my time there, in my time in that family, it is nothing like what it looks like. This makes me want to go back and rewatch the whole Oprah interview. I want to rewatch Harry and Meghan.

I want to rewatch the Oprah interview. Here's also what I'm going to say. I think this royal family is capable of so much more than we realize. And remember how Harry and Meghan, they were videoing themselves leaving the. Yes, yes.

And we were all so skeptical. We were like, they want their reality show. They're so mercenary. Of course. They're just ready to hit up Bravo and know right to get on real housewives of Beverly Hills in a jiffy.

No, we were all just calling them out left, right and center. And remember how they really couldn't escape until Tyler Perry gave them security? Because the monarchy, by the way, the crown Prince Charles at the time, was just going to let them flounder with no security, hounded by the world. I just wonder, were they doing that for their own protection on some level? Were they trying to document as much of what was happening as possible out of fear that something would happen to them and they would no longer be able to tell their story?

Yeah, I mean, this is so chilling, by the way. Okay, so with this source back to the story, and you got to wonder, too, if their need for security wasn't just to protect themselves from crazy royal stands, but to protect themselves from potentially, like, I don't know, someone from within the palace who know to harm, know. Prince Harry said that he wanted to have it more looked into why Diana died. Yeah. Right.

And that's where, for me, I am not into the JFK assassination theory. I'm not into the idea that the royal family killed Diana. I don't like to live in a world where elites are killing people. Yeah, I actually don't like that. I want to live in a world where Princess Catherine just got a fucking facelift, okay?

And we're all blowing this crazily out of proportion. And at the end of this, we will say, wow, the power of the human imagination. Totally. What a beautiful story. You think?

I want to feel like we two little podcasters are putting it all the pieces together. I think, as well, the amount of vitriol that has come our way, that we've received. I mean, I'll just say that last night, I saw a group of friends who I hadn't seen since all this craziness. And while I'm there at dinner, my friend says, oh, my gosh, I just got this DM. And it is literally a DM to her from a random person, bot whatever, like, telling her that I should watch my back and that she should look closer into my life, spilling inside secrets about me personally that is only shared on our Patreon.

Right? So this is clearly someone who is so enraged, who's listened to the Patreon episodes, they've gotten crazy hate emails filled with wild fantasies about our family members and saying, we're going to create entire TikTok channels about your family and the things your husbands have done. That was so funny. Once, like, Ben never loved, Chan has only found peace with Courtney. We sent it to Courtney, and Courtney's like, finally a man finds peace with me.

Anyway, so there's real psychos out there. I hope they just needed Tyler Perry's protection in order to protect themselves from the Looney tunes, which very much so exists. Yes, and I fully understand now, on a different level. But genuinely, now I have so many more questions. So back to what this source told me.

The source said this is so much more sordid than anyone knows. William is not a good person. The affair with Rose has actually been going on. The source also says people don't get that Rose Hanbury has way more power than anyone realizes. They think that Rose Hanbury is just maybe a side character in this.

No, she's a main player in this who's very much so still involved, not just from potentially something that happened in 2018. Right. And by the way, let's just get to this really quick before we proceed further with Roseanberry. But everyone, when it was announced that her lawyer released this statement saying that the affair rumors were categorically false, do you know what it was giving to me? What?

I did not have sexual relations with that woman. I mean, I'm sorry. Guess what? Rose Hamburg is not in a corner of law giving that opinion. Right?

She's not able to be put on the stand for perjury. Also, I think it's no coincidence that statement was released. And then we got the video of healthy and happy Kate. Right. Very shortly thereafter.

Right. Kensington Palace PR obviously was working overtime, much to their chagrin. They were staying past. 05:00 545. That must have been really tough, sending thoughts and prayers.

So, yes, so this source says Rose Hanbury has so much more power. And it brings us back to the Nicole Cliff Twitter thread. So Nicole Cliff is who broke the story about Rose Hanbury being Prince William's mistress. Right. And what Nicole said is that Rose Hanbury, she is a true aristocrat.

Okay? Not only is she born royal adjacent, I mean, do you know what her title is by birth? I don't know what her title is by birth. I know that her grandmother was, like, in Queen Elizabeth's wedding as a bridesmaid. She's just, for all intents and purposes, actually way more blue blood than Kate ever was.

Ever was. And obviously, you know, it's hard for us as Americans to get class structures as much because for us, we're just born in a society where that's so much more egalitarian. But in the UK, emphasis on class. Where you're from, your family, your bloodlines. By the way, do you know the entire idea of the monarchy is based on the, in my opinion, very dark idea that some people's bloodlines and family bloodlines are ordained by God to rule over others?

Like, so crazy and gross. I mean, you know what else? I mean, that sounds like so insidious and pseudo biblical. It's like, racist. Yeah, it's 100% giving.

Like, way worse than racist to the same.

Just. It's all bad. It's all bad. So anyway, Vandal Cliff says is Kate found out about Rotanbury during her pregnancy with Prince Louis, and she freaked out because this is what she says is middle class Kate. Provincial suburban Kate.

Like, two of know. We were born in a family where the husband and the wife had know. They stayed together. They were good to each other. There was assumed faithfulness between a man and a woman and the home we were raised in.

Okay, but that is potentially not the case if you're born in an aristocratic circle where affairs run rampant. Well, and families and marriages are, by design, are strategic generations of strategic marriages. And they're more about coming together for the greater good of the people versus love and trust. Well, when people ask me if I would take Kagan's last name, my favorite joke was always to be like, I would like to do it the english way, where you take the last name of the person whose family has the most money and the most power. I thought that was hilarious.

Anyway, yes, that's very much. Marriages were by design in order to maybe increase the power of certain family bloodlines. So it's very spooky. But yes, Lady Rose Hanbury also not just was born into a royal entrenched family, but she married a man who, at the time was the Lord Great Chamberlain. Right.

At the time of the affair? At the time of the affair. Well, and I think actually pre the affair, I believe he was Lord Great Chamberlain for quite a long time. I guess. Please have your encyclopedias at the ready.

Okay. Lauren and I were Googling Lord Great Chamberlain, like, into oblivion, trying to understand whether this was one guy, who the guy was, whether if it was still rose Hanbury's husband. Are there multiple Lord Great Chamberlains? Right. But all we know is that it's a very important position where know have to preside over functions where the sovereign is basically, and I think we stated this in the video, but he couldn't be phased out.

Their family could not be phased out of the social circle. Right. It's just not possible. This guy is ordained by God, apparently, and must by heredity by law. Right.

I'm just laughing at God being like, sorry, we need this Lord great Chamberlain. Sorry. To sanction the functions, you got to serve water to the can't coronation. I don't care what you have going on. Yes, these are royally entrenched people, and so middle class Kate, according to Nicole Cliff, was very foolish to assume that she could just have Rose thrown out of these social circles.

And she's not the queen. Only the queen could have this done on him, right? So apparently, Rose, up till this point, had been very, very careful to not let it slip to anyone what she was getting up to with William. But apparently she was so enraged that Kate even thought that was possible that in order to put Kate in her place, by the way, I'm sure that there's still hierarchies. So I'm sure Rose Hanbury looks at Kate and is just like, yeah, you're the Princess of Wales, or the Duchess of Cambridge at the time, but bitch, like, come on.

Ever heard of the great chamberlain? Like, I'm sure on some level she wanted to remind her of her pure blood aristogenetics. And so what Nicole Cliff says is that Rose let it slip to her friends. Got a little messy. We're hearing Rose is a little bit of a messy lady, FYI.

But Rose apparently let it slip to her friends, knowing that the word would get out in the social circles and knowing eventually it would get leaked to the press and this would be her retribution. To Kate. To Kate. In order know, make her look bad, to tarnish her image their perfect. Yeah, yeah.

And like Tina Brown says, and we all have seen, Kate is fastidious when it comes to her image. She's so scrupulous and careful when it comes to her presentation and the public perception of her. It's just so crazy because even know, talking about this, know there's never a hair out of place with Kate. And I'm seeing a lot of the comments about the most recent video, just talking about how insane it is that the first time she's seen is, like, stepping out in athleisure. When do we ever see her dress like that?

I mean, she's always dressed like she's going to a church service, essentially. Do you remember when Princess Catherine, when she was the Duchess of Cambridge at the time, she was having a picnic with her kids on some lawn. And I remember she was in wedges and, like, an aline dress and basically wind blew up her skirt. And I don't think you could see anything, but there's all these videos of her just, like, frantically putting it down and there's, like, big kerfuffle on the know, like Kate Middleton, a skirt out of place, a hemline out of place. This woman is always pristine.

So, anyway, I think one of the worst ways you can get back at her is to have this idea in the public that things are not. And I think, you know, all that we saw from the media at that point, the most confirmed of the rumors that we got was just know that these two sets of friends, William and Kate and Rose and her husband, they were just no longer friends. There was a distance growing between the two of them. They used to be great friends, that's for some. And now they no longer are.

Right, exactly. And now they no longer are. And I think that a lot of people also were very astute to note that the home that Lady Rose lived in with her husband, the Marquez of Marquez, she's the Martianess. She's the Martianess. And he's not the Marquez, he's the working.

I'm like Hermione, literally. You are. Apparently their home is very close, a few miles maybe most, at Max, away from the country estate that William and Catherine, in the same way that Camilla's house know just a stone's throw, essentially, from Sandringham or from King Charles's palace or whatever, Camilla was close by Charles. And like we said, history repeats itself. Also, by the way, it reminds me of Heather McDonald's iconic line, which is that men are so okay.

They can't go cheat with someone outside the home. They have to shit where they eat. They have to go two doors down to the nanny, down the hallway. It's giving lazy, it's giving sleazy, it's giving growth. I mean, let's also just maybe touch on the fact that we have always believed that what contributed to Harry and William's falling out was this idea that Harry was very much so against William stepping out on Kate, and that led to a severe disagreement between the two of them.

I mean, I think whatever you believe about Megan, because Megan is so polarizing and we've gone so back and forth on Megan, we're literally still going through the wringer with her. It's a daily struggle for me. We might be full circle at this moment. Who knows? But I think what everyone can agree to is that Prince Harry is a love bug.

Yeah. He does not seem like a cheater. No, he seems like a very loyal guy. He just like a sweet guy. And I think I brought this up to you the other day, but I have to believe that if you were William and you were born into this life, or your destiny was set, just it is already defined.

And maybe this is what you think that you can do, that you have to have this life, you have to be king. You have to rise to the occasion by your bloodline, your duty. And this might mean that you're allowed to step out and do whatever you want. I mean, it's certainly what his dad did. It's certainly what his dad did.

Exactly. And I think that there's probably something to this very confined life. Yes. Where it's like I can't make my own choice. Exactly.

I actually can't live my own life. I can't decide I want to be a movie star. I can't decide I want to be a podcaster. So. Sad thoughts and prayers.

I guess maybe one way I can just have some fun is have some options in my private life. Right. I don't know if you want to even talk about this, but I do believe that Kate and William Love was real at 1.1 hundred percent. I think a lot of men, unfortunately cheat on women they love. Right.

For all sorts of reasons. Okay, like, what's that quote? Men are only as faithful as their options. It's gross. It's horrible.

And I don't believe that's true. But I think. Don't we have another episode people can reference? Men will fail you every time. Or something like that.

Men will fail you every more on that. Check it out. But I will say also that I believe that Catherine loves William. And I believe that in spite of all of this, I think he's probably an avoidant. And I think that he probably keeps her not fully validated.

Sure. And he dangles the carrot of being queen forever. Low key. It's like such a joke. Subtle.

But I just think that even if he does nothing, she knows he has a right. Of course, on some level. Yeah. He's a future king. Yes.

And he is who the monarchy wants to protect. So, of course, it makes sense that not having the full comfort and validation would keep her on the line. Keep her on the hook. Right. I mean, we also saw this with their early love story and the way that she kind of had to strategize in order to get him to put a ring on.

Yes, exactly. It took him, as Nicole Cliff said, oh, this was so dark. But she was like, listen, it took him until he had almost lost all the bloom of youth to finally settle down, to finally agree to marry Kate and do his duty. I mean, she waited for the scraps he would on some level. Because guess what?

Those scraps when one day turned to gold and a crown on top of her head. Yeah. Okay. And we love a queen with a goal. Sure.

Okay. We love an ambitious bee. We really do. We truly do. And apparently what this source also said is that this affair never stopped.

It never stopped. Catherine knew about it. Okay. Yeah. But guess what?

Catherine is ambitious. Catherine, as dough eyed and sweet and charming as she appears and is also wants to be queen. This is her whole life. This is her know. I think it's more than just I want to be queen and it's more of this is the life I signed up for.

Yeah, this is what I signed up for. And you know what? There might be a part of her that's like, there's so much good I can do with this platform. The net of this might be my impact on the world is so much greater. And the positivity I can affect and change I can affect is greater even if I stay with a guy who has a royal.

Sure, sure. Okay. In the words of the great Megan, what's her name? Megan Fox. Megan King Edmunds.

Megan. Megan. Megan King Edmunds said royal side? No, I was on Meghan Kelly. Megan Kelly.

Megan King Edmunds is like weighing in on this. She is a. Wow. She is a detective. She is a detective.

It's true. Okay, so what the source says is that Kate had this complete mental breakdown. And the reason why those ambulances, the motorcade of ambulances were seen leaving Sandringham was because Kate found out that William had a royal love child with Rose and also that he was done hiding her. And so she was going to have to live in a world where just like Diana, who had to look, okay, little parties in the UK, see Camilla and Charles canoodling. Kate was going to have to put up with Rose in their private social.

Like, the precedent was already set. The precedent was absolutely set. And obviously that would send any of us into a complete and utter breakdown. Hyperventilation. Yes, absolutely.

And so what this source said is that Kate is completely breaking down. She also, by the way, had surgery. And this is okay because everyone's like, oh, wait, so all of your theories are true. I was as shocked as all of you. Yeah.

And I pray this is all wrong. And we're the mayors of Clowntown, as we have said. What the source said is that, yes, she did find out that William had a love child with Rose. But this is all also happening while know, undergoing all these health. Yeah.

Just to add insult to injury, literally says the health challenges are due to the eating. Yeah. Yeah. So that makes it for me more clear why the uncle said if it's announced, and also the phrase, she's getting the best care in the world. Because I think if she had cancer, he would say when it's announced, because that would mean it's inevitable.

It's inevitable. They have to announce it at some point. But if it's announced means, hey, they might announce this. They might keep it secret forever. So I don't know.

But, yes, apparently, she's going through this health crisis allegedly exacerbated by her eating. You know, it's just horrible to even talk about. It's also, like, the precedent there, like, thinking about Diana's eating disorder, and someone's so obsessed with their. And. And the pressure that they're.

It's like, I feel like I'm saying you always look perfect, so that's what's the problem with you. But I just feel like I would be the same way. I don't know that I would have an eating disorder. I pray not. But if the eyes of the world were watching me at all times, I think as a woman, it would be very difficult to not let that completely let you go, like, mentally spiral.

Yes, absolutely. And I just don't know how you would be able to have a grip on your sanity in that position. Let me just say, with the little bit of craziness that has happened to our account, it has made me lose touch with some of my sanity. Yeah. And I think that we as women, feel like we're under such pressure all the time.

And I feel like if the eyes of the world were watching me at all times, we just don't know what place it's capable of taking us to in those moments and under that amount of pressure. And by the way, what my source said about the eating disorder was that it was referred in a very matter of fact way, not in, like, oh, I'm giving you the scoop. I'm giving you the tea. It was like, kind of everyone knows, like an open secret, literally. Yeah.

So I think a lot is going on for Catherine. Right. Gastro issues exacerbated by an eating disorder in the hospital, mental breakdown over Rose Hanbury and William having a love child. Okay, all alleged. And then this brings us to the death of Thomas Kingston.

Yes. Sorry. It just is so crazy, because if I was watching this or reading about this stuff for the first time, I would just be like, what the hell? This is too insane. Full looney tune.

Like Rainbow Road. It's really when truth becomes stranger than fiction, which I will just say, as of yesterday's video, it's becoming stranger than fiction. So many people say that the Kate Middleton conspiracy theories are making them feel like flat earthers. Yes. And it's absolutely the case, because I think a lot of rational people are.

No, no. Something is very off. Yes. And I don't like feeling like something like this, this big could be so off. And we are getting off detail after off detail after off detail.

Straight from the palace. Correct. Straight from the palace. Okay. So this brings us to the death of Thomas Kingston.

So there is absolutely a connection. I was told by my source, and it is possible that Kate and Thomas Kingston were close. Yes. Apparently someone just commented on our Patreon. I saw this.

Don't know if it's true. Yeah. But apparently Thomas Kingston is legitimately, like, a gem of a man. Really? Like a wonderful man.

It was almost giving me Wyatt vibes. Like, real winner, handsome, charming. Just like a prize. Right? Yeah.

And also, in the words of Sheena Shea, good is gold. Like, good to his core. Okay. Everything to live for. I mean, can I just say that if he was having an affair on his wife, I don't know if I would say I would compare him to Wyatt or know prize, but, yeah, that's still.

He can still be a dashing charming. Maybe not, you know, a picture of know. May God rest his soul. On this podcast, everyone, Chandler brings us down to earth constantly. Look, we would not be here in this moment without Lauren.

We would not be half as successful as we are. No, it's true. Lauren brings the energy, the drama, the drive, the intensity, all of it. I just bring a little bit of grounding. Yes.

Just ever so slightly. Thank you, Chandler. Okay, so maybe not the picture of virtue like Kate. Okay. Who also might not be the picture of virtue.

And this is know, again, we might solely the image of the pristine Catherine. But is it possible that she fell into the arms of. Thomas Kingston has strong arms. Yes. For solace and comfort in her despair over rose.

Like we said, these circles are small. They're incestuous. Like, it doesn't matter that Pippa dated him. That was years and years ago. We also don't know what lady.

I don't mean to be a Thomas Kingston, defense attorney, apologist. We don't know what Lady Gabrielle's vibe know. Maybe for her, it's a. Maybe she's a frigid bitch. No, I'm not saying that.

Maybe she is. Like, yo, I just want a husband in public. But what if here's my lover in public. What if she's having an affair with King Constantine and that's why William pulled out? For personal reasons.

Okay, what if. Oh, my gosh. That is so chill. I think you. I don't know what King Constantine looks like, but he just sounds like a snack.

Sounds fuckable. So, everyone. So apparently, according to the source, though, the connection is very real, and so the timing of Kingston's death is extremely suspicious. Now, what my source says is everything beyond that wild speculation, we don't actually know that anything was off with his. Know, he could have found out that his affair with Catherine was discovered and offed himself scared of the monarchy.

We don't know. But we do know that two days after his death, Prince William appeared with a solid bruise on his. A huge bruise that is honestly right where Ben and I reenacted, know, behind closed doors. No, just kidding. A little kinky.

Ben and I did reenact it, and that is literally the place where you would have a bruise if someone was trying to strangle. Like, what are we talking about? We need to, like, I don't know. If Lauren and I disappear, you will know the truth. If we like, seriously, if you will know the truth to us, you at least will know the truth.

Exactly. Good people of this country, of this nation, of this world, we died swinging. We are just like George Washington fighting against the king in 1776. Protect us from the king, please. So, brief summary.

Kate is dealing with all of this. All of this, right? She's dealing with the gastro issues, the abdominal issues. She is dealing with the love child, a potential eating disorder. Rose being rolled out in her social circles, and then her beloved, the man she can trust.

Allegedly. Allegedly heavy. Allegedly. I will say the love of her life. No, William's the love of her life.

But I will say even if he's not the love of her life, even if he's just the man she can trust, she probably feels so terrible that he's gone that he lost his life in the crossfires of this. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Heavy.

Allegedly. Also, like, this is a person who died. It's very sad. I completely agree. I completely agree.

And it's horrible. It's horrible in every single way. And it's just sad that it's all suspicious that we don't have more answers in that. Yeah, it's really sad. Okay, so moving beyond this, though, there are so many other speculative theories.

Some include, is the order of succession changed by who the love child is? We also get word at this time that the king is much iller than he seems. Much more sick. Yeah, much more sick. And that he only has a year to live.

One year. One year. So everything is melting down behind. Which I think also tracks with Camilla taking more of a. Absolutely.

I didn't that just occurred to me. Very astute. So there are so many other theories going around, and people were like, it's so funny because you get in trouble either way, but people are like, this is getting too crazy. Or people are like, we want more. Why are you silent?

Totally. But we made the choice because I could have easily been like, okay, now we're in the telo novella series, where I'm just going to go through all the wild fantasies. Like, here is, you know, and Kate in each other's arms. You mean Lady Gabriella? Lady Gabrielle.

Well, then this together. Yeah, exactly. So it'll get really crazy in my telenovela series. Wait, didn't. It was King constantine's funeral.

Yes. So he died. King Constantine died. Where have you been? Well, no, I'm just saying, like, so Kate was having.

So the death. His death is actually what sent Kate into in this wild theory. I could have so much dark fun with this, right? And I easily would. It could spiral into the fan fiction miniseries.

That would be 100 parts, and I could do till I die. But we made the choice. We're like, we're only going to share what this source tells us. Yeah. Okay, so instead of releasing more and more parts, we just leave it.

We're like, this is the story. We're sticking by it. We're only going to follow developments. Also, I think I might add that I got a message as well, corroborating all these details. Right?

Yes. So crazy. We're getting so many messages that say the same thing. So then we see the news that there is a video, and there are photos of Kate at the farm stand. This was hours after I'd recorded the reel that are like.

That's like, show me the video. Right? We need video. Give us a ten second video. Really?

She's taking a jaunt to the farm shop, and there's not a single photograph. Yeah. So at this point, I was very relieved. I mean, definitely, I felt bad for letting my imagination run wild on TikTok. Mind you.

Mind you, dreat voice, we only had 33,000 followers when this started a week ago, so I didn't really think that many people would see what was going on anyway. People are going to be like, well, at the time you mentioned this conspiracy, you had 212. All right, fair. But I felt bad. Yeah, you do have a soul.

Of course. But beyond that, I was so relieved, because I'm like, this woman is alive. She's well. And I think, if we're being honest, there was a part of both of us that was like, okay, we can put this baby to bed. Yeah.

And also, though I will say I was relieved that she's alive, I was not relieved and convinced that she's. Well, totally. Yeah, I guess that's true. It didn't confirm anything other than that she's alive, which is what we said. Right.

Because as our source told us and as we said in the reels, she was being threatened and told to get in line, that this was getting completely out of control. She needed to maintain her composure. She needed to reassure the public that everything was fine, or else it would be the worst for her. Right. And Kensington palace is fully in control of all of this.

They're in control of the socials. She's in control of virtually nothing is what I've been told. So the photo and video of her coming out of the shop also potentially says, okay, she's falling in line. Yeah. She wants to be queen.

She will put up with all of this. I think it's actually important to note that there was time in between the report that she was spotted out and about at the shops. And then when the video came out. No, I'm talking about after the video came out. I know I had all these feelings.

Right. I just think it's interesting, though, that we got this article that she was seen out and about, and then I think there was like four to 6 hours there was. Because I feel like that news came out before we went on TMZ or what's. So. By the way, TMZ documentary is potentially being released Thursday.

So we'll see. We'll keep you guys updated. But you got to check it out. But apparently, yes, it took them somehow, four to 6 hours after the outing to get the photos and videos out. And people, I think, were already scratching their head at, why are there no photos?

She's been spotted, but there's no photos. Exactly. So at first I was like, this is a palace setup. Clearly. Also, the people around them are not even looking up.

Yes. In the video. In the video. Yes. It's the most pedestrian footage I've ever seen of a royal.

It looks like they could be anyone. Anyone. Honestly. Someone was like, it looks like AI. It looks like they're not even in that.

And they've been put in the video because the people are so incredibly not even. Right. They don't even feel the wind move when they walk past. It's a very nonchalant video of them. She's also very sprightly in the video.

Well, let's just talk about how she looks first, she looks 20 years younger. Yes, she looks a lot younger. And I think it's almost like she looks like she has a different face. Like a subtly different face. No, she looks like she has a 19 year old fresh face, but also subtly different.

You're absolutely correct. Her hair is pretty long. And her hair is so long. Super long. Yes.

And it looks so effortless. And her vibe is just so happy, joyful, exuberant. It literally looks like this Kate Middleton is like, getting groceries to go make dinner at their college flat for Harry, who's coming up for the. Exactly, exactly. And also, it's just so weird because their faces are angled.

I think, strategically, whoever these people are in this video and photo to be casted away from the camera, they're not up in the light. They're in the shadow, which is very interesting. We can't actually make out facial details, profile details, their faces. We just see a blur in a haze. Also, someone posted, they're like, we can get this video of Rihanna.

And there was a video of Rihanna from that weding she performed at, and it was zoomed in from so far away, and it was, like, with an iPhone or something. I don't know if it was an iPhone, but probably they're like, how do we get this? Of Rihanna? Right? And this is the best they can produce of Kate.

It took me a solid 4 hours to see all this coming in and be like, oh, my God, how do they think this is her? I feel like the realization that this still did not feel right and that people were not buying it slowly crept up. Yes. Because we were like, okay, speculation will be done. She's alive.

Who knows what's going on behind the closed doors, but we're closing up shop. It's closing time. Yeah, I think that it gave us a lot of pause. We still had questions, but it was like, okay, this has suspended some of our disbelief. Yes, exactly.

And so with everyone's suspicions, by the way, Andy Cohen tweets that ain't. Yeah. So many people are like, absolutely not. There's a height differential. The ears look different.

The chin looks different. Right. And also, for someone who's rumored to have an eating disorder, just had abdominal surgery. Really, you're going to get in leggings, the thing that is going to make you look thus. It's going to exactly show people how emaciated you are.

Yeah, she looks extremely thin in this. Also, it's so weird, because if you just had abdominal surgery, are you really carrying your own bag? Right. Are you walking that fast? None of it makes any sense.

Also, how is there only this single. This one video? Yeah. Isn't like the one video from an account that's like a Royal Stan or something like that. Like something weird.

It's something so weird. There are people around them. You're just telling me that this one person who looks like they were in a car when this happened, they somehow knew that they were coming out and so they got their phone already. No, I'm sorry, but everyone else was just being private and respectful. It is so unbelievable.

It's not right. Right. Harvey on TMZ, on the interview was like, how does it feel to be who everyone is looking to for information on this royal story? And I just want to say that's not how we feel. We're just like responding to what's happening and what it feels like everyone is.

I mean, to updates that are coming in like every 4 hours. Yeah, and I thought it was real at the beginning. I'm not a person prone to conspiracy. I really am not. And I don't want to live in a world, in a world where any of this is.

No, this will not become our new brand. It's like conspiracy. No, exactly. And we're not going to fall down every rabbit hole. That's just not what we're interested in.

I just don't understand. Because the palace just continues to give us stranger and stranger details and clues. Instead of just saying nothing, they give us a little bit more that just like. Honestly, it only emboldens all of the criticism and suspicion. We thought it was going to be over, literally, they turned up the gas on this fire, and now everyone is weighing in.

Right. And they had that meme of the girl on the plane. Like, that's not real. Yes. That's all of us right now.

Yeah. So we are so floored. And then also this video of the lookalike. Yeah, well, the lookalike looks just like this girl. Yes, fully.

Also, apparently the lookalike has had to go on the record saying it's not her. But it's like unless someone is under trial, you know, she could have been paid, right? Hey, you're going to have to give a quote saying this is not you. My feeling in my prayer right now. You're saying a lot of prayers.

Literally. I'm becoming religious overnight. I need God's protection right now. And we literally do. I pray that Kate has lost weight because of her surgery.

She doesn't have an eating disorder, but yes, she is recovering. She's dropped a few pounds. And guess what I pray she's had a magnificent early 40s facelift, which I think everyone should celebrate at some point in their life if they choose to go down that road. It's the new braces. It's the new braces.

And that, for me, is the only reason, is the only way to explain. Yeah, because I think when someone gets a facelift, their face looks like them, but it's also different. Exactly. And that would cause people to be suspicious. Well, and I think that that could be why Kensington palace is like, hey, we're not going to close.

We're not going to do up close. This is all going to be so grainy because we need to give her time to recover. And we are never going to admit to cosmetic surgery. Right. Here's my thing.

Get with the program. It's 2024 KP. Like, everyone gets cosmetic surgery. And if you're a woman and the eyes of the world are on you, you should be entitled as a royal, very least to the very best cosmetic work that. I'm sorry, the Kardashians, the good people, your God given right, the elites are getting when they knight you or whatever.

It should be also for all the plastic surgery that you wish. 100%. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. No. So I just think that that's what I'm literally going to pray for.

Yeah. I don't want this news to keep unfolding. People are going to think that we want this to go on forever. We're actually not a K account. I also said yesterday to Lauren, I was like, I am looking forward to when we go back to talking about Taylor Swift, like, legitimately.

So much lighter, so much easier to wade into those territories versus the darkness of Kensington palace and all the conspiracies. I would like to talk about Erica Jane. Yes, please. Vanderpumper rules. James Kennedy.

Oh, my gosh. Dossie Schroeder. Please, anything. I will talk about Jax Taylor on the valley over this at this point. But we feel, obviously, it's incumbent upon us to stay with you through this journey.

We've come this far. Let's all hold hands together and just pray Kate is okay. But right now we feel more lost than ever. Yeah. I think also this has awakened a new wave of people with suspicion, which I think is interesting.

The new video. The new video, yeah. It's like there are more and more people coming out of the woodwork, summoned by this being like, that's weird. Okay, wait a second. Yes, exactly.

So obviously, we're going to stay on the case, everyone, we're going to be releasing these audio dispatches, these podcast episodes, the second we can, when we have enough new information, the second anything drops, please hit subscribe on Apple, on YouTube, on Spotify. Make sure that you are aware when these episodes drop so you can be the first to listen. All right? And with that, Chandler, let's just say we're praying for Kate. Yeah, I just want.

Last thing. I've watched a lot of Kate videos through this. Yeah, I was moderately interested in Kate Middleton before this. I thought her style was a little kind of boring. Yeah, no offense, Kate.

I hope she's not listening, but literally through enough, Lauren. I honestly look at her now, and I'm just like, you were kind of perfect. I mean, she is perfect. So poised, so graceful, so kind. I have all this empathy, too, for her with all the Meghan markle stuff, the kindest smile, eyes.

Maybe I will create a Kate fan account. Yeah. The rest is still like, I just hope wherever she is, whatever mental state she's in, she knows that people are coming from a place of care. People are genuinely concerned, and they want her to be okay. Which is why they're not believing any of the publications that are just telling us that everything's fine and we should just shut up.

I think that's why everyone's so galvanized now, is because everyone loves her. She really is a people's princess. Right? All right, everyone, thank you so much for listening. Like, and subscribe wherever you are listening to this podcast, and we'll be with you the second there's an update.

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