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Know headshot case clothes what is up, guys? It's Andy Forcella and this is the show for the realist. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society. And welcome motherfucking reality, guys. Today we have Andy and DJ Cruz.

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All right, so, guys, very special episode today. Got a good buddy of mine coming on the show here, Mr. Andy Stump. What's happening, bro?

I'm not prepared for the intro you guys just did. I don't have any opening remarks. I don't know how to live up to that. I didn't know you guys were going to go hard in the paint like that. I appreciate it, though.

Yeah, man, this is one way to do it.

It's like, holy shit, they're going right out of the gates.

Okay.

I have nothing to add to this.

Well, guys, if you don't know Andy, Andy is an entrepreneur, father, former Navy SEAL, adrenaline enthusiast. Enthusiast, yeah. All around fucking badass dude, man. What else?

What do I miss about that last part? No, it's aggressively average and mediocre is what I aim for every day. But set the bar low, trip underneath it most days, and you're going to be okay. Yeah, that's about it. It covers it all.

All right, that's fair.

I like the comb over.

Yeah, that's a good look, man. When was this?

When was this picture?

That's a lot of hair gel. That was actually taken in, was doing. I was a keynote speaker for an Asia business summit for Barclays bank, of all things.

Oh, sweet.

I can dress up. Okay.

Sometimes clean up.

All right, good look, man.

It was also a long time ago. I don't I look that young anymore, so. A little bit more gray hair.

Yeah, come over.

Is a good look, man. I like it.

I wish I could do.

That's a better look.

Yeah, that is a better look.

I think I was maybe.

How old were you in that picture?

I think 25. I was 25.

No shit. What's going on here?

So the first deployment I did, how can I impact this? All right, so there are east and west coast SEAL teams odd numbers are on the west, even numbers are on the east. Internally, inside of the SEaL community, we would consider the conventional special operations. You would call it the white side, SEAL teams. The black side of that would be the JSOC command, commonly referred to or known as development group. So I went through selection for that command in 2002, which anybody who knows anything about history knows. That was very proximal to a huge event in the United States, the invasion of Afghanistan. When did that actually happen? It was late in 2002. I was in training when that was happening, and one of the tasks for that command was providing security for Hamid Karzai, who's the person? What's actually happening? The picture is, we're getting ready to leave, and he was signing a piece of afghan currency, basically as a souvenir. So they actually pulled us out of that selection process for that command a little bit early and surged us over there so we could. It's called rip or relieve in place the squadron that was there so they could get back, retrain, refrigerit, just refit, take some time.

Yeah. So that was my first trip into Afghanistan deployment with that command. It was post the assassination attempt. So really it was a security detail. We hung out, protected him when he was inside of the palace, in the government office, traveled around town in a little bit. It was not that long of a period of time. Nothing happened while we were there. But that's the tail end of that first deployment.

Now, are those grenades two different size?

Fuck, yeah.

So tell me about this. Hold on.

You have a grenade problem that's big, and sometimes you have a grenade problem that's small. You have to have the tools for the job.

They made them in different sizes.

I didn't either until I got over there and I saw that, and I was like, I like to have options. Yeah. And they're both equally ineffective. They look bigger in this picture than they did in person. One of them was very tiny. It probably would have worked in a phone booth. And the other one, I wish. Grenades. You watch any movie, they pull the pin. A lot of times they like to cook it off. Not a good idea because there's variation in the fuse, and they throw it, and this huge fireball goes off like a 55 gallon drum full of gas. In real life, it goes crack and a little bit of dust comes up.

In the movies, you pull the pin in real life and let it go.

Oh, yeah.

You don't fuck around.

No, you don't cook those things off.

It's a good way to lose a hand.

They say that there is a three to five second fuse.

Yeah.

How do I know if I have a three to five second fuse? It's pin Huck. Get behind something.

Now you brought up in the movies, dude. I never served, and I don't know much about Navy SeaLs and what was going on. We got some mutual friends and stuff. So I did some research last night. I watched these two documentaries.

Hopefully one of them is Charlie Sheen.

On Navy Seals, and I wanted to get your take on which one of these is more accurate. All right, so we have under siege from Steven Seagal.

Yep.

Okay. And we have Navy seals from Charlie Sheen.

I say if you combine the two, you have the entire career from a.

Nonfiction perspective in a. I mean, is this pretty accurate?

No. However, the one in your right hand. Navy Seals. I probably watched that a hundred times before I joined. I thought it was going to be very close to what the job was like. It was nothing like that whatsoever. And then under siege, how Steven Seagal, who is a ferocious piece of shit as a human being, was able to actually continue to make. I mean, just do some research on his treatment of women and just start right there, and I'll let you guys do your own research. How he was able to continue to make movies or even star in that role is just beyond me.

Have you ever seen his magic kung fu shit?

People send it to me every single.

What the fuck is that?

It's made up. Short answer. When I watch those videos, I'm more concerned with the person that is willingly pretending than I am with him up there trying to do the bullshitsu? All the people that are. All the people in that room that are flying and falling down, do they go get cocktails afterwards and say, hey, we all know this is fake, right? Do they ever have a moment where they sit down and say, hey, we agree this is bullshit, but we're going to participate anyway? Or do they actually believe that, to me, is so much more fascinating than, like, the master? I always watch the people in the background, never the master himself.

Fuck.

They're probably like, dude, did you see that move? Steven got me in?

Yeah, I saw that one.

That finger locked.

He took it easy on me today.

He could have fucking killed me.

Yeah, but then if they ever were to try it on, anybody ever get their ass beat?

Yeah. What do you mean?

I can't block a knife by just turning my stomach and the guy fall.

It's like Napoleon that grabbed me here.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I actually think that it speaks to some people. Are so desperate to be a part of a group of any kind that they will literally detach their cognitive reasoning ability to do so. The value of being involved in that circle is more important than the reality of it.

Yeah. There's no self identity or worth or esteem in those individuals. Yeah, for sure, dude. It's sad, actually.

It is sad. But also, I derive an immense amount of entertainment from it. I support it.

It's actually fun to watch. This is pretty amazing. And then you're like, but it's fake. But still. But, yeah. So when you decided to become a navy Seal, did you guys do, like, the golf cart polo? Because that looked fun if you saw.

It in that movie. We didn't do it, unfortunately.

Yeah. Because I figured that would be the reason to join.

What are those, Andy, what are those? What are those called?

That one might be a blu ray.

This is called a DVD.

DJ, what is that?

So this is what we watched. DJ is only 27 years old. 28. 28.

I know what a DVD is, but.

Have you ever watched one?

Yeah, I've watched them.

Okay.

I know what VHS is, too. Now, don't go past that. I don't know anything.

How about Blu ray?

Yeah, I do. Blu ray.

Laser disk.

Like a floppy disk?

No, laser disk was like a DVD, but it was like big like this. What about beta Max?

I know beta males.

Well, we all know that these days.

That's a fucking.

Yeah.

Those are the two most common movies I actually get questions about, though.

Really?

Yeah. I wish the Navy Seals one was real. I went into the community thinking this is what it's going to be like. And no, it wasn't, dude.

I watched that movie in the theater when it came out.

Navy Seals.

Yeah.

Good man. Good man.

I grew up wanting. When I played golf, that's all I ever did was play golf. Polo. I would just drive the golf carts and hit at least one round of golf every single time.

A lot of country clubs don't like that.

No, they don't. Yeah, that's why I don't golf anymore. Yeah. I was politely asked to not come back anyway, so. Dude, what is this? Pick up the elk. The elk. That is a big fucking elk, dude.

That is a big elk on a bow, too. What I'll say is this, though, depending on the angle that you take the picture from, and I was with a very high level photographer. They can make it look bigger than it is. So that's actually sitting at the wall on my house. They get the right angle, they twist the antlers toward him. That was at a that's how DJ.

Does his dick pics.

Lighting matters.

I've been.

Never shoot from below. Always shoot from above.

That guy's number?

Yeah. That is at a ranch in Utah. It's a private ranch. I was invited to go there. I think that was the first or second year that I had ever bow hunted. And Sicka paid for my opportunity to be there. And that was actually on the last day, on the last hunting opportunity, and it was the most elk I've ever been around. Right before I shot that elk, though, I'll send you this video once I can find it on my phone. That thing walked in straight to me.

To three yards where I was sitting.

There and I hadn't drawn back. I was legitimately wondering what self defense situations would look like with an elk and then decided in that moment that I would kick the cameraman at it and then run the other direction. Sharing with you legitimately what I thought as it was coming. There was a cameraman, right? I'm like, okay, this is what I'm going to do.

He's got to go.

I'm going to sacrifice. Tell him for me afterwards, there was no time in the moment this thing was coming in on a rope, and.

It was screaming off, it's fucking me or you, bro. Yeah, it's going to be you.

It was coming in, and so I eventually just stood up because it saw us. And then it backed off a bit and it bounded off and maybe stopped at ten yards. So I was able to stand up and shoot it. This was 50 yards from where I shot it. It was an intense experience. People hear the bugling of elk. If you watch it on TV or on your phone, it sounds amazing. But when you're that close, when it's reverberating inside of your body, it was pretty intense. It was awesome.

I think it's huge, dude.

It was big.

I've never hunted before, so I don't know anything about.

Yeah, I don't know if I would start people on a bow if they had never hunted. It's a little bit more challenging, and there's less tolerance for mistakes because you.

Have to get so close. I've shot a bow quite a bit. I just never went hunting.

Combining the two is tough. You have to get pretty close to animals. Rifles will buy you a little bit more space, and you can make some more mistakes. But it was wild. I've hunted there since then, and I've never had an experience like that one. It was fantastic.

That's cool, man. How much meat comes off of an animal like that.

Oh, man. I would say you probably get somewhere between four to 500 usable pounds of meat.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

Jeez.

So you got to fucking give it away and stuff.

Freezer full. I am fortunate and I usually will get a couple of elk tags per year, which does not equate filling your freezer every time. I think last year I had three elk tags and I got one elk. Anytime I fill my freezer, I immediately just start giving away to friends and family. It is so good.

Yeah, I've had it a couple of times. A couple of my buddies have let me try elk before at their house. It's good. It's good. I liked it.

A lot higher protein value than your normal meat. You're going to get at the super market. And it's cool to tell a story, too, when anytime I'm cooking for my kids or we had elk lasagna the other night and it's like, oh, I'm not going to eat the rest of. It's like, hold on, you little shit. Let me tell you the story about me carrying that out of my back that doesn't go in the garbage. You're eating that right now.

That's right. I like that. Yeah, that's fucking.

Did you mount this thing?

Yes. Head only. I've never been a huge fan of, like, the full body mount or some people take it down to right in front of the front shoulder. I actually like the Euro Mount, so it actually gets skinned and caped and then I think bleach. So you just have the skull and then the antler.

Where do you have that at?

That's at my house in Montana.

Okay.

I shot a bull there. I was with Glover, our mutual friend Glover, two years ago. He shot one one day. I shot mine two days later. And I have both of those up at the coffee shop. And I point out to everybody, if you notice, one is slightly smaller. Mike's, obviously. And then mine is the more regal elk on the right hand side.

Now, is that just with the elks or does that cross over to everything else?

I mean, he's asian.

I fucking love, bro. He's the fucking best.

I fucking love the best.

Yeah, dude. So, uh, speaking of your coffee shop, you have a super awesome black rifle coffee shop.

We have the only black rifle coffee shop in the state of Montana.

Yeah. So let's talk about that because that's in the fucking news, right know, I'm friends with the guys. I don't know Evan, but I know JT and Matt, and they're great dudes, and I see them getting fucking attacked again over this act blue shit that has already been addressed like a thousand times. So can we get to the bottom of this once and for all? Because honestly, I'm just tired of seeing good people be drugged down by people who are on the same team.

I mean, we can try, and here's what will happen. That first came out, I remember seeing it a few years ago, and it seems to be on like a twelve month cycle where it pops up again. So I don't even know where you start, other than people think that the act blue platform is actually a political party in and of itself. So I always start by letting people know it's actually just a payment processing platform. Yes, it is dedicated towards causes that are on the democratic or left side of the aisle house, but in and of itself, it's very. I guess it's probably not similar to PayPal.

It would be.

What would it be like? Maybe gofundme. They strip a small portion of what you donate and then the rest of the money goes towards the cause that you want it to go through. So a few years ago, the first time I had heard about it, Evan, the founder of Black Rifle, has made two donations that I'm aware of. One of them, he lost a bet, so he donated, I think it was $500, to the Obama campaign. And the other donation that he made was to Tulsi Gabbard, because she is a personal friend of his and a fellow veteran.

Tulsi is cool. I haven't met her yet.

We've communicated. I had a few opportunities to try to have her on my show and it just hasn't happened yet. But she seems to for as far.

As I haven't had her on either. But we talk in the DMs and stuff and she seems cool as and.

Yeah, so I'll come back to Evan's donations in a minute, because I think it's important on how actBlue actually works. So what I have seen in the last few days is people are. It's a very tightly cropped image of, and it might be an SEC filing. It's something where it's a searchable database and somebody at some point in time took a screenshot of the list of people who have donated and put in their employment. Black rifle coffee. And there's actually two versions. It says black rifle coffee, and then underneath it says black rifle. It doesn't have the image that I have seen circulated, it doesn't have their names. And so it's cropped, and at least in my opinion, in an attempt to make it look like black rifle coffee as a company is supporting the Democratic Party.

Right?

And that is the message that is being largely permeated throughout social media, whatever news sources people may want. And it's wildly inaccurate. And as far as I can tell, this latest round that has come out was actually started by a competitive coffee company to black rifle. So it makes a little bit more sense as to why it's making the.

Rounds again, because anybody can go on there.

So I'll get to that. Because I was fucking around with Akblue this morning, today in real time, to try to understand what you can do. How much can you play around with? Could you actually get a group of friends and utterly troll an individual or organization? And the answer is, you absolutely can. But if you back off from that initial screen, grabbed optic, it would have the names. If you went even farther than that, it would have the amounts. And some of those amounts are like $2.50. One black rifle coffee as an organization. And it says on act blue, and all of this is self certified. There's no team of wizards behind the curtain that we're verifying this information, at least based on my own experience on the platform. Right before you hit pay, there's like five little things. And it says, by submitting your payment, and I'm broadly describing what I saw this morning, by submitting your payment, you are agreeing to our terms of service. You're saying you're an individual. This is your money. You're not making a donation on behalf of an organization or a pact. And there were two more. And you click on it, your money's gone, and then you can show up on this database.

So black Rifle Coffee as an organization is not donating to the Democratic Party. I'd also challenge anybody. Let's say every name that appears on that list is real. And I think there's eight entries, and some of them are repeat names. I mean, how many people do you have working for you? What's your headcount here?

Shit. 450 to 500 in the office. There's thousands outside.

A 0% chance they all have this homogeneous idea of the world should be and their belief system, whether that be religious, personal, spiritual, economical, all of those things. I could give two shits if people inside of black rifle coffee employees donated money to the democratic party. I don't give a shit. One of the most beautiful things in our country that I appreciate is the ability for all of us to sit in this room, have different beliefs and go live our lives.

I totally agree.

The best of our ability. Now, what's interesting about act blue, and I'll get back to what I was talking about. About Evan actually putting his name on there and black rifle coffee. I went on there this morning and made a donation to a democratic senator. I think it was in Montana. It was like five or ten whole dollars. I hope he saves a moose with it or does something cool. And it says, employment. And I put gray rifle coffee and what's your position? Head barista. And I just hit donate, and off it went. And my point in saying all that is maybe just because you find it on the Internet, you shouldn't believe it.

Yeah.

Your fleet of employees, we could task them with just crucifying any organization that would be considered on the conservative side of the house. Donation after donation after donation after donation. You can put down there whatever you want. The fact that Evan put down black rifle coffee should show to people he doesn't give a fuck that they know he's donating.

That's right.

He's not trying to hide it.

It's not like this guy's a fucking idiot.

You don't have to put down any information if you don't want to. He chose to put that there on a platform I assume at the time he knew would be searchable, because it doesn't matter. People just need to do their own research and just don't believe everything you see on the Internet.

Don't you think this lends itself to a bigger conversation about the responsibility we have as a culture to recognize cancel culture as a societal weapon for division. Meaning, for the last ten or so years, the left has had a monopoly on cancel culture, right? Pretty much. If you didn't toe the line or you even spoke out of line, there was very little tolerance for difference of opinion. The exact opposite of what I think you and I share in common, in terms of what we think the country should look like. We might have differences in opinion, but those are okay, and we can talk about those things. And as long as you're not stepping on my toes, I'm not going to step on your toes, and we're all going to get along. And what I've seen and noticed is the cancel culture has shifted from the left to the right. And I feel like a lot of people on the right are not understanding, like, because they've been abused for so long by the left, they now have the power. And that power is being wielded irresponsibly against people who, for the most part have the same belief systems and believe in the same things that they do because they don't agree with every single detail.

Someone says, we saw this a lot with the Trump and DeSantis thing, right? All of these people want the same outcome, but they're killing each other internally on the same team. Over get there. Yeah, right. Exactly, dude. And so now we have a social power base that's over on the right side. And at my opinion, at some point in time, we've got to come to a realization that this societal weapon, because that's what it is, cancel culture. It is a weapon to make people fall in line with whatever the narrative, whoever holds the power is. We have to understand that this is not good for the country in any way, shape or form. It's not good for us to try to hammer people and ruin their lives and get them fired and destroy their companies because they may have a different belief that we have, even though the core belief system that we have is very much so aligned. And when I look at this situation with the black rifle guys, I see that because the people who are canceling them, these people, if you go look at every other single post that they talk about, they're talking about the same shit that those guys believe in.

So it's very frustrating to watch this happen. And it would be nice if we could get to a point, and I don't know where the line, like, when we see the Anheuser Bush thing happen with Mulvaney, like, part of me is like, okay, well, that was necessary as a show of force of, hey, we're not going to accept this in our culture. But then it's like, well, how far do we take this? Do we take this to where we do what they did? You know what saying? Yeah, like, what do you think?

I mean, I think Bud light is pissed beer to begin with, and it shouldn't have been consumed ever by anybody. Personal opinions don't come after me. Bud light, lawyers. I'm not a fan of your product. I agree with you. It's almost like there's no way to be enough of the thing that people think you are without getting attacked by some fringe element. It just keeps going farther and farther.

And farther and farther.

Yeah, we were talking when you were out there working out. People have appropriated the term patriot.

Yeah.

And it seems to mean two different things depending on what side of the political aisle that you are on. And I hate that our country has almost been reduced to a binary left and right, and everything is a bifurcation of that the cancel culture thing, I agree. It absolutely is a weapon, and I hope that people can recognize that it's optional. There are egregious errors that I think are made by individuals and organizations sometime. And I think one of the key things that's missing before people hop on that bandwagon with a vigor that is shocking is that how many of us would survive the lens and scrutiny of some of these people? I am a galactic fuck up.

Me too. Me too.

I made so many mistakes, and if all people got to see was mistake after mistake after mistake, I wouldn't blame them for canceling me. But they're willing to use a lens that they themselves couldn't survive. And I don't say that to try to excuse behaviors from individuals or organizations. It's just in this realization, okay, this is a weapon. I do have a choice whether or not I can participate in this. Should I take a breath? Just educate myself a little bit more? Do I need to hop on this bandwagon? There's another option, too. That's a quiet one. Just vote with your fucking wallet. You don't have to throw gasoline on the fire if you don't like Bud light, which I advocate. People not liking bud light because of the taste. Don't drink bud light. Drink whatever their quiz light or whatever their competition would be. Vote with your wallet. Don't waste your time on social media. Don't virtue signal to me the things that you believe in? Because I have my own life to live and my own mistakes to make. It's a fucking mess, and I don't know where it goes, especially when the needle keeps going and going and going and going.

What is patriotic enough at this point? What does it mean to be a patriot? Do you have to wear a certain color hat and say a certain color thing and have a certain bumper sticker if you don't have those things? Well, fuck you. You're not part of our group, right? I don't know where it goes.

Yeah.

I don't know where it leads, but I don't think it leads anywhere good.

No, it doesn't. I agree with you. It's something that we have to come to terms with and be adults about and say, hey, what is this country supposed to actually be? It's supposed to be free. Now, there are things that, as a culture, we're not going to accept. We're not going to accept grown men shaking their dicks in front of kids at drag shows when they're three years old. That's not something that we're going to accept, we're not going to accept men getting in a swimming pool or on a basketball court or in a volleyball game and beat the shit out of women. That's not acceptable. But outside of those collective standards that are harming people and that do dangerous things to other people's kids and other people's lives, really, man, we're supposed to kind of do our own thing here and live our own lives and you don't have to like what everybody does. I think that's a big common misconception about what freedom actually means. Freedom, like you say, it's not like a one track, narrow definition. If you really want freedom, that means you're going to have to have tolerance for some lifestyles that you don't necessarily want to live.

Maybe it's essential that you don't like every idea that you are surrounded by.

Yeah.

If you are only being told the things that you like by people that you agree with. And again, people who live their life however you want to. I would be worried that I'm living inside of an echo chamber. Yeah, that would concern me. I'm not scared by ideas. I'm not scared by people's thoughts. I'm not scared by their voices. I like the fact. And to me, our country should be about, okay, you have an idea. I have an idea. You think my idea is shit. I think your idea is shit. Let's pull them into the spotlight. Let's logically work our way through them. And at the end of the day, people can make their mind up off of that through an objective and logical discussion. Not me trying to weaponize something to shut down your voice, or you weaponizing something to shut down my voice. Bring that shit out. Talk about it.

I think people are afraid of that, though, because I think most people's opinions, because of social media, they're thin. That's right. They don't have depth. They're not comfortable standing on.

Defend it. They can't defend it.

No, that's what I'm saying.

There's no mile wide and an inch deep.

Yeah, that's right. They know everything. But if you dig in, they don't know. Like, we see this in these little videos that you go on the street, right? Like they go on the street and they say, who you voting for? Oh, I'm voting for Joe Biden. Why? And then the shit that comes out of their racist, the shit that comes out of their mouth right after that is like comedy. And that's what makes the clip, because it exposes people for the lack of understanding of any of their ideas. And I think the reason that we have such an aggressive, shut up, sit down, take your business, fuck you, you're fired type culture is because people just aren't capable of standing on their own opinions. And, dude, the life you've led and the life I've led, that's a necessity. Like, we've had to lead people. We've had to say, no, this is why I think this. You can't build businesses. You can't lead people. You can't accomplish objectives without explaining, hey, I think this is a good idea and this is why I think it's a good idea. And in your case, the life you've led, if you're not willing to hear the feedback, fucking people get killed.

So there's real serious consequences to not thinking like that. And I don't think that most people have that in their lives anymore. They're just reading on the Internet some shit and parroting it because it sounds good and they want to get a couple of likes on the comment they make.

I'm very passionate about the things I believe, but I don't arrive at those positions quickly.

Right.

And I'm also completely open to telling people that I don't know. There is such a narrow bandwidth of actually, if I'm honestly assessing myself and how I feel, I don't feel like I am an expert at anything. There's a very narrow bandwidth of topics that are largely, completely useless in society that I have a level of experience with that I feel very deeply about my opinion and where it came from. And other than that, I just try to sit back and take my time and educate myself and learn as much as possible. I don't think there's any reward to having the fastest velocity to getting to an opinion. I think it's more than anything, the risk and downside is like a hockey stick going up, the faster you get to those spots. I don't know when it became faux paw to say I don't know. Or if somebody ever come up to a street with one of those cameras and ask me that and they asked me a question and I didn't know the answer. I'd say, to be honest with you, I don't know enough about that to answer you.

Yeah, but I feel the same way. And I think there's a lot of freedom in being able to say, I don't know. You don't have to have the pressure on you. We talk a lot about this in our personal development shows. I personally am of the opinion that a great leader will say that without reservation when it's true.

The best leaders that I have ever worked for. I'll use an example of a commanding officer at a SEAL team. So in the Navy, they have n codes. It's n one through n nine. And those are just the departments largely tranched out. That would work for you. Probably similar to the infrastructure you guys have. N one would be our admin. N two is intelligence. N three is operations. You have planning, logistics. All of those things we would do. Weekly meetings with the commanding officer. The worst leaders that I've ever been around were the ones who tried to be the smartest person in every room that they went into. The best leaders that I've ever been around were the ones who tried to staff the smartest people in each of those areas and then put them into a room and solicit for their feedback, ask them questions, and then make educated decisions. No attempt to be the smartest person in the room. They staffed their weaknesses. Yeah, those are great leaders.

Yeah, man. I think we're at a situation in culture where a lot of the false realities are going to crumble very soon. I think they're crumbling now.

What does that look like, though?

I don't know. What do you think?

Fuck if I know.

Yeah.

I know what people are calling for. They're worried about a civil war. And people ask me about civil war, and I say that I don't think it's impossible. I'm not truly worried about it, because the reality of executing warfare like that versus what people think it's going to be behind their computer screen, just say they're a little bit different. Nobody wants that. I think if it were to kick off, people might be a little hesitant to continue because of what it would require. I don't think anybody out there really wants to go out and get into a gunfight with their neighbor in their hoa cul de sac. That's not what we're looking for here. It's horrible. It's horrendous, and I don't want that for anybody. So I don't know what it'll look like. Because again, in a consequence free environment behind your screen, you can say whatever you want and this is what's going to happen, and this is what I'm going to do. I don't know what it looks like.

I don't either, man. It's going to be interesting. I do think that the quote unquote woke progressive agenda is done.

It's losing steam at the least.

Yeah.

And I also think that's normal. Again, at 46 years old, I'm not going to even pretend to be an expert on all the generations that have come before me. But in just talking to my dad and asking him about conversations he had with his grandparents, every generation of society had some weird pendulum swing that found its center again and then probably went back the other direction.

Yeah.

So I think it's just kind of our natural way. And I suspect that every generation is like, that's it. It's fucking over.

Yeah.

We're never going to get through this one.

It also does feel like to me, though, I feel like. Have you read that book, the fourth turning? No. So basically, the theory is every 80 years, there's basically a repeat of history. Right. And I agree with what you're saying. The pendulum goes back and forth. I'm around the same age as you. I'm 44. And in my life, I've seen it go back and forth. Right. And you have, too. And the thing that concerns me is that I see it going further left and then further right. And at some point in time, over the course of history, that usually ends with a genocide of some sort. And so that's what scares me. It's like when we were in the COVID stuff and everything was going crazy. There was no shortage of people who were on the COVID bandwagon who were calling for the removal of somebody who wasn't vaccinated from society. We had Justin Trudeau, one of the leaders of the world. I mean, comically, but he's the fucking main dude up there in Canada, talking about, hey, we don't know what are we going to do with these people? They're a danger to society.

They were building literal camps. So it concerns me when you go back and look at the things that. How they behave during that time, and then what's the result going to be now that. Yeah, dude. And that's kind of concerning.

It's a rubber band, bro. You can only fucking stretch it so much before it snaps. That's the unfortunate thing. But to your point, Andy, it's like most people are just not going to be prepared for that snap. That's the reality of it. So I don't know. I don't know what that looks like.

Yeah. I don't even know if it can be avoided. Yeah. I think the way to avoid it is by speaking some reasonable, common sense shit on a regular basis.

Also asking for accountability, too. Right? That's the biggest part. There was so much damage that was done. I mean, even just looking at the COVID stuff, there was so much damage that was done and caused at the hands of people who don't really have our interest. And it's obvious everybody knows it, right? A lot of people forget it. And so you can't have the accountability aspect of it that will prevent that from happening again, because the precedent has been set. We've already shown that people are going to be mindless sheep that follow along with tyranical rules. And so it's like, the only way to prevent that from happening again is to hold those people accountable in our society. But I don't know that enough.

The organizers.

Correct. I mean, I'm talking the top of the. I mean, I want the generals, not the fucking frontline soldiers, right?

It would have been so much better during COVID if they were less dogmatic. And again, it goes back to being able to say, I don't know, like, if Fauci had gotten up and said maybe a couple times a week, hey, boys and girls, doesn't this suck dick? Yeah, maybe don't use those words when you're announcing to the nation, boys and girls. Sorry. So sorry. I apologize, Fauci, for recommending you open your speech with that. Let's go with your speech writers on that one. But if they got a couple times a week and said, this is the best information we have at the time, way less dogmatic, instead of telling people, you have to do this, or you're a threat to society, you're a piece of shit human being, this is the best data we have at the time. I think where they lost the plot is they kept going from dogmatic position to dogmatic position, back and forth and back and forth. And finally, everybody, not everybody, but a large majority of people, started saying, I can't tolerate this anymore. You keep telling me you're an expert, but you're flipping back and forth, and then of know as time progresses on, and you hear things like Fauci saying, yeah, I don't know where the six foot principle or rule came until nobody.

They had to wear a mask.

Yeah. And it's like, I also have the Internet, sir, and I would like to show you a few things or saying that the US doesn't fund gain of function research, and it's very clear that the NIH was supporting through proxy entities what was going on in Wuhan. It's insane. But also, at the same time, a lot of countries were. I did a podcast specifically on the Wuhan lab, and dude, Canada sent the Ebola virus to Wuhan on a commercial airliner for them to study and have Ebola in Wuhan. It's insane the level of interconnectivity that this stuff has. And it's all shielded through this lens of being very dogmatic and being dishonest. Yeah, that's what gets the robe into snap. I think, in my opinion, people are like, you didn't tell me the truth last time. I can clearly say, like, you're standing out there in the rain and you're telling the american public that it's sunny out. I'm not going to listen to you anymore.

Right.

We'll take that step further. At what point does it cross the line of, like, this was not just like, oh, they messed up. This was intentional.

That's how I feel, dude.

100% release of COVID in and of itself.

100%.

Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a complete intention.

You look at, like, dude, if you go back to that time, right? Like, if we could just fucking get in a fucking time machine, you go back to that time. Do you have one look at. I mean, I wish I was going.

To say, let's go for a spin.

Well, we can't go far back. Like, too far back. Okay, 1970s. Let's stop right there. But, dude, they were showing clips on mainstream media of people falling out in the streets, right? Or the fucking refrigerated trailers that they were using for mass graves and to hold all these bodies and pictures and videos of body bags on the street, right? And there was such a simultaneous push from every place, every single government in the world, every single media outlet. It was all simultaneous, all at the same time. Right? Temporal had or not? I mean, the evidence, the stuff is out there, right? Event 201, you go back and look like this stuff was planned. And so when does it cross that threshold of, oh, hey, this was, hey, we just fucked up?

If it was an operation, they fucked up, though, because I think what they actually showed people is that they need to think for themselves if something like this happens in the future, as opposed to demanding an immediate compliance. If it was an operation to see how far they could push it, I think they fucked up.

I think the operation wasn't just to see how far they could push it. I think the objective, I am of the opinion that we are in the midst of a coordinated communist revolution subversion in this country. And when I look at COVID and I zoom out and I look at it, and I felt this way while it was going on. But we're a few years removed from it now. And I look at what the actual result was. What was the result? Well, we had the biggest wealth transfer in the history of mankind. And it didn't go from rich to middle class. It went from middle class to already ultra rich. They closed the stores, they closed the.

Restaurant, 70% of business.

Yeah. A lot of those businesses local? Never.

Dude, where I live, there is a main street.

Oh, fuck.

It's actually called Main street, too. Yeah, there are thinking about that. I was like, son of a bitch. That's probably a main street in every town. But where I live has maybe got a population of 30,000.

Yeah.

What was able to stay open? Walmart, Home Depot, some gas stations, what closed and are still empty pock marks down main street were small businesses.

That's right. And I believe that was intentional, because when we look at what the World Economic Forum wrote in COVID-19 the great Reset, and what Klaus Schwab preaches, these guys talk about, they talk about, you will own nothing and you will be happy. And when we look at how Blackrock and some of these huge funds are buying up all the residential property, it's very clear that there was preference given to the already ultra rich. And so how I see what happened was they scared everybody. They created massive division. It created massive confusion. It helped their cause for the election. It put Trump in a spot where it was zero win. There was zero way he could win. That pressure. People like to talk all this shit on Trump. And I'm not some kind of idolizer of Donald Trump. I'm just being real. If you're the president of the United States and you have every single advisor around you, including the media, fucking everybody, saying this is the worst thing, and you don't do anything about it, you lose, okay? And because he did something about it, now he's getting that held against him, too. So they put him in a no win.

But the biggest play that I saw was the division and then also the transfer of wealth. And when you look at what communism is all about, it's about the consolidation of ownership at the very, very top and nothing for everybody else. And the promise is always you guys at the bottom. We're going to take care of you, and it's going to be a utopia, and you don't have to work, and we can do all, and this never works out that way. They end up killing those people. And so when I look at COVID, I see a. And then if we look at the border situation and what's happening and all of these things happening in one big play. I believe it's an intentional third worldization of the United States for the benefit of the global elite. And that's the perspective I've seen it from the whole time. Now, could I be wrong? Sure. Could I be hyper vigilant on it? Maybe. But it seems to be that from my perspective, the dots are connecting. Yeah, dude, I don't think people are with it anymore. So it's going to be real interesting. We talked about this out in the gym earlier, what it's going to be like from here moving forward, because I believe these people have committed what I would consider crimes against humanity at scale, at global scale.

And I believe that they understand that if they lose control, they're probably going to get held accountable. And if you have someone whose back is in the wall in that situation, you have to ask yourself, if you were them, what would you be willing to do to maintain power? And the answer is, anything. And that's what gets me real nervous about what's going on in society, especially for the next eight months or whatever. We've got it to go until that.

Yeah, I would agree with you. If your hypothesis is correct, I would agree that those are absolutely crimes against humanity. What would be the steps that you would take to course correct that?

What do I think should be done? What would I do?

Yeah. What could we do to change the trajectory that we're on?

Well, what I would do, if it were me, is probably not what anybody else would do.

Oh, tell me more.

Yeah. What I would do is I would get some 14 to 16 foot poles, and I would put them in the White House front lawn, and I would decapitate all the organizers of this play, all of them. And I would put their heads on the stakes, and I would let those stakes stay there for the next hundred years. And I would remind everybody what happens to people who do things like this to regular citizens. That's what I would personally do. And I know that's crazy, but it's.

A non conventional approach, for sure.

A little vlad the impaler, you know what saying? But tyrants don't stop themselves, dude. They don't. And tyranny never stops themselves. These people believe that we are peasants and that we should be subservient to them. We are too stupid to live our own lives. They believe that they have the right to take all of our money and oppress all of us and do all kinds of shit to make our life difficult. And if we ever truly want to have freedom, those people have to be held accountable. And not just held accountable, held accountable in a way that sends a signal for the next 200 years that, hey, man, if you do shit like this and you start to fuck with people's, the people, their country and their livelihood and all this shit, and you get to a point, bro, this is the end of what you're going to face. And if we're being honest, this is what's happened in history over and over and over again. And that's how this shit has stopped. So I know that's an extreme example, but that's not what I would do. What I think likely could happen is that it could take ten years and these people get prosecuted and they get put in prison when they're 90.

I don't know. Have you got to restructure our government?

Have you ever seen the execution video of Nikolai Chachescu from Romania? Oh, dude, it's a chilling video.

I don't generally look for execution videos.

Well, yeah, I guess it does show it. No, but. So Nikolai Tuschescu, he was the dictator, right? It was a communist installation of Romania at the time, and there was a revolution. The people turned on them, right? And him and his wife, they were court martial and they were sentenced to death by firing squad. And as they're carrying, grabbing this man, taking him out to the wall, he is still in the tyrant mindset. He is still saying, how are you guys doing? I am your leader. Even the wife, they believe their own power. And it's a very shocking video to watch, man, because it's like, even at the end of a barrel, you're still holding on to that power. Tyrants will not release that stuff themselves. I think it's dangerous. I think the accountability piece, man.

Well, the problem is, bro, is I feel like they'll do that to us. When you look at what they've created with the domestic terrorism list, are you on that, by chance?

I haven't checked it.

We're frequent flyers. Yeah. I don't know.

What day does this episode come out? I might be.

Yeah. No shit. No shit. I just look at. They're taking. I don't know what we. I call it patriotic, but guys like you, okay, guys like me, guys who know, believe the same core beliefs that we believe about America, who they've always promoted as like, the american standard sort of thing, you know what I mean? And they've taken these people and they've put them on domestic terrorists, and they've villainized them, and they said it's the biggest threat to the country. And all this shit. Fucking ten years ago, bro, it was fly your flag. Support these. You know what I'm saying? So when I look at what's happening, dude, it makes me super nervous. Dude, I got nervous during COVID I was like, fuck, if these people win, they're going to kill all of us. And that's what makes me real nervous about what's going on.

I'm nervous about this year's election cycle. I think we have to restructure some things in government otherwise, and I'm not an expert on government, but I worry that our current system may no longer be tenable. We have to have term limits.

Yeah.

We have to have single issue bill voting as opposed to these fucking 1000 page documents.

Omnibus bills.

Oh, my God. And the people will tell you, like, I read nothing in this. Maybe at best, they have an AI program now that can spit out talking points. I don't think they should be able to buy stock while they are in office. Those three right there, lobbying should be illegal.

Yeah.

Those four right there would have a huge impact on the direction and a lot of the stuff that we're talking about. If you can't make a career in politics, which I don't think politics was ever supposed to be a.

Supposed to be serviced.

That's why they. Yeah, the founding fathers were. Seems like they're pretty damn smart. I don't know if they could have forecast the country growing to this size. I bet you they didn't even consider somebody being in politics for longer in their life than they had been out of it. They're like, no, why would they do that? They would go back and be a farmer or it is. So it makes sense to me that the document is incomplete, hence we have the ability to amend it. I think, though, I'm worried that if we don't modify some of those things that the train may be too far down the track to turn around. And I don't know what that looks like either.

Yeah, I share those same concerns. I think those rules, those four rules, and I think there's a couple of others that would be useful, but.

It'S against the interest of those in power to implement those, for sure. And that's the issue.

Yeah. Like, dude, there's other things that we could do in society that would fix society. For example, there's. These people are lawyers, right? They're all in law. And a big problem in society and culture right now is false accusations, frivolous suits. The law fair that happens in this country is insane. And I think that in our legal system, there should be some repercussion where, like, for example, there's clearly a double standard that women can accuse men of doing things and they don't have to be true for the man to suffer the consequences of the accusation. So, like, if a woman were to accuse a man of abuse or rape, and even if he didn't do it, he loses his job, he loses his friends, he loses a child. That's right. And all it has to take is an accusation. So in situations like that, there should be repercussions where the person who makes the accusation would serve the sentence. If it ends up not being true or something like that. There needs to be some sort of recourse for these frivolous accusations and frivolous lawsuits. Because, dude, there's so much injustice done in that, and then there's so much money lost in the business aspect, dealing with things like this.

I mean, you're in business, I'm in business, dude. The amount of bullshit that it takes to run a business is insane. It's almost not worth it. And I think they want to make it not worth it so that they can consolidate even more of the business to their buddies, the biggest places in the world, the biggest guys in the world. And then we talk about taxes, right? Like, taxes is another reform that needs to happen. The fact that you and him and me and everybody listening here, when we add up all our taxes over the course of a year, we work for the government more than we work for ourselves. It's not just income tax, it's sales tax, it's property tax. It's all this other shit. Tax when you buy, tax when you sell. If we added all that up, all of us are paying more to the government than what our government or than what we get to keep. What does that make us? That makes us tax slaves in our own country? That's supposed to be the freest country in the world. That has to change. And I believe that the reason they make it that way is to financially oppress people for control reasons.

If people don't have financial resources and they're worried about making their ends meet, it's very difficult for them to concentrate on what's happening in Washington, D. C. Or what's happening in their local politics. So if you create enough division, enough hardship, enough confusion, enough anxiety, enough stress, it's really hard for the average person to get activated to pay attention to what's happening in the country, which gives them free rein to do whatever they want.

Yeah, if you're trying to survive. You're just trying to make it through the day.

That's what I'm saying. So I get frustrated on the show because I'm like, fuck, guys, we got to get engaged here. We got to talk. But then I'm like, fuck, dude. A lot of people are, like, legit panicking because they can't fucking survive. And it sucks, dude. It's not how it should be. And if all of us paid 10% tax, all in, how much different would the life of the middle class person look like? It'd be a massive difference, dude.

Be way better as a business owner, dude.

That's what I'm saying. And the socialists and the communist people, they're like, oh, that's greed. No, it's not, because you don't understand what it is to run a business. If truly, if I'm a greedy person, then I'm going to want to create way more careers and way more jobs and way more shit. And that's how it flows. It flows down through the capitalist system. And people don't talk about that, okay? You would never reinvest that tax money into your business. You would just keep it. Are you a fucking moron? Well, if I'm as greedy as you say I am, then why the fuck wouldn't I take that money and grow my business so I can make even more money? And by the way, during that, I'm building thousands of careers for people. They just don't understand the flow. And again, it's surface level talking points. It's not deep talking points.

At a younger age, I didn't understand those things either.

Yeah, that true.

You're like, well, that person has more than me.

I want what they have.

And it's not fair. It's not fair.

Yeah.

Which is, I've only found the fair in northern Iowa or in Iowa that has cotton candy and a merry go round. You know what I mean? That's what the fucking fair actually, it doesn't actually exist in real life. It's one thing I've come to in my 46 years. Everything is unfair.

Yeah.

I didn't understand at a younger age. I think a lot of those arguments when it comes to wealth and the development of wealth, it's interesting. I know people in my personal life who started at one end of the spectrum and then actually went on an entrepreneurial journey, like, well, this sucks. Why do I have to pay this? Their ideas, the story arc of their ideas, naturally shifted over time.

Yeah.

So there is an experience.

There's a saying about that. If you're young and you're conservative, then you don't have a heart. But if you're old and you're liberal, then you don't have a brain. Yeah. And that's fucking true.

I like that.

Yeah, it's true, man. It's true. Anyway, that's the longest intro we ever did for the show.

I fucking love it. We're 56 in. Yeah.

Is that good?

That's great.

I like it.

I guess we can cruising. There we go. Let's do it.

What do you got?

Let's get into it, guys. Remember, if you want to see any of these pictures, headlines, videos, articles, links, go to andyfortella.com. You guys can find them linked there. That being said, let's get into our first headline. Headline number one. Headline number one reads, outraged American TikTokers hilariously vent their frustration as Senate inches closer to banning the app, with influencers worrying they'll lose their jobs as creators and be forced to return to dreaded nine to five jobs. So I believe it passed already. It did passed. TikTok is going to be forced to sell or relocate and become an american based company. But let's dive into this article a little bit. So the stress is setting in for american TikTok influencers, who are taking to their favorite app to vent their frustration. After the legislation that could ban the platform was passed in the House with overwhelming support on Wednesday, content creators are now worried they could be forced to return to dreaded nine to five careers. As the bill now heads to the Senate. Hilarious memes also surfaced on TikTok Wednesday afternoon as users crack jokes about the potential ban of the platform that has more than a million of active users in the US.

Here's one of the memes that came out. It says the US House has officially passed the bill to ban TikTok if its owner, chinese company Byte dance, refuses to sell the platform. Gen Z on their way to storm the capital.

God, I love the Internet.

Sometimes Internet can be great for memes.

It's undefeated.

Memes are probably the best thing that has happened.

Real talk, dude, I'm here for the memes.

Dude, they're so good. I'm talking like tears down my face, laughing.

So TikTok responded. TikTok CEO tells users to protect their constitutional rights against the Tic Tac ban. He actually did this in a video, but he said, over the last few years, we have invested to keep your data safe and our platform free from outside manipulation. We have committed that we will continue to do so. This legislation, if signed into law will lead to a ban of TikTok in the United States. Chu claimed in the video, he says, quote, we will not stop fighting and advocating for you. We will continue to do all we can, including exercising our legal rights to protect this amazing platform that we have built with you. Chu told users, quote, we believe we can overcome this together now. So this is all going on. Did you guys see what Rumble did?

No.

You didn't see it either? No.

Oh, shit. This is the first.

What happened?

I just want to take this in real quick.

Yeah, well, everything, man.

Fuck.

I got other shit to do, too. I am.

It doesn't happen. So this is what it feels like.

Yeah, this is what it feels like to be on your.

So in a very interesting move, Rumble comes out and they said they'll buy fucking TikTok. This headline reads, controversial free speech site Rumble wants to buy and operate TikTok in the US to stop Congress from banning Chinese owned app. So an american company has offered to buy TikTok to prevent the chinese owned app from a nationwide ban. A letter from Rumble CEO Chris Pavlowski surfaced on the company's Twitter page Tuesday, declaring his online video platform is ready to, quote, acquire and operate TikTok in the US. This is a letter that came from him. I believe this was released on Tuesday. I believe yesterday or Tuesday. Since then, their stocks are doing great. It looks like it's trending. There's no news. And what he said in the letter, to be very real here, he says, Rumble's offer to serve as a partner to a consortium to acquire and operate TikTok is subject to the negotiation of a definitive agreement. So they could be in talks? They could not be in talks. I don't know how that's going to work out. Rumble has been working on some cloud based technology, and all of their servers are here in the US.

And it is a platform that has historically been free of manipulation, which. That's what the Twitter files and all of that stuff exposed, which it's very easy to say that, okay, China is an enemy.

This is.

The chinese company has connections, however you want to say it, right? But the fact that they're so vivid in controlling it, is it really because of national security concerns? Right? Like, is that really the reason? Or is it really because they have no control over it, like they did with Twitter? And they can manipulate data and narratives and they can manipulate through bots and they have no control over. Know, you look at Twitter before Elon bought it, you look, right? Like our government administration, our government agencies had their hands in all of these social media platforms to change things, to alter narratives, or to get certain perceptions out there. So, I mean, what is really the truth? Is it the truth that it's a national security concern, or is the truth is they just can't fucking captain the ship?

I think both could be true. I think you could make an argument for both being an issue. I mean, I can empathize for people worrying about their job being at risk. I struggle to not laugh when I see a title outraged American TikTokers. I'm doing my best to not laugh out loud at that one because there are people who are working in that. But I mean, how many of you know somebody who was a real estate agent at one time, especially when the markets are going great and then it tanks and they have to figure out and evolve and figure out a different way to feed their family? I have reinvented myself four or five times in my life post military. I think it's okay if your income source has a potential threat to it. Evolve as a person. Read the train out in front of you. And if you have to move along. Now, I'm not saying I want that to happen to those people, but welcome to fucking real life. That's right. Welcome to fucking real life. The business coffee shop business that I own, or the supplement business that you own. We're a catastrophic world event away from that shit.

Maybe not becoming relevant. Guess whose problem that is? If that happens, that's my problem, not somebody else's problem. People can research China, and I think they should when it comes to chinese owned companies and the tie to the Chinese Communist Party. What the Communist Party demands from those entities and organizations by dance, I believe, has a CCP member on their actual board itself. So I think there is potentially a national security threat there as well. And I think it could equally be true that there's less control for the people who are in power. Who would want to have the backside information to that? I'm not a tech guy, meaning I don't understand the mechanics and how all this shit works. I can even imagine how much is required to keep a platform like Instagram. Just all the other physical infrastructure pieces. I feel like, though, that there are smart enough people in this world that could figure out a way. If TikTok has got to continue to exist for some people, let's find a way that it can exist outside of the control of the chinese owned company. I don't know, create another organization somewhere that meets the criteria for the US and hopefully still keeps it out of the reach of the US government entity.

I feel like there's a solution. Just. I struggle thinking of things as a catastrophe when we're talking about being a content creator online. Again, I can empathize. I don't want them to lose their job, but welcome to the fucking real world.

Yeah, man. As much as I share the opinion that the world was better before social media and the Internet, when I say that, people really get upset about it, but it's the truth. And we talked about this. You and I are of the age where we lived enough of our life before and enough after to, I think, have a valuable perspective to offer there.

If I wanted to talk shit, I had to figure out where you lived.

Yeah, no shit.

Somebody what your landline number was that your parents were probably going to answer or walk over there and fucking knock on your.

Not only that, bro, you had to be prepared for the real consequences. Yeah, there's no consequences to fucking trolling or talking shit anymore. Dude, when I was growing up and when you were growing up, if you talked the wrong shit, you know what happened? You had to stand on that and you might get your ass beat. You might get punched in the fucking face. And you know what? That's good for you sometimes, because you know what? It teaches you not to talk stupid shit, all right? And we have a whole culture of people who say whatever the fuck they want without any repercussions. And then when you hold them to the fire, they play victim. And I could go on and on about this, but the point is, I believe that social media is fucking garbage, all right? And I believe the Internet has made the world worse. And I would gladly give that all up, including all of the success that is created for my personal brand, my companies, because I ran companies before the Internet. I know how to fucking run a company. I'll go back to the way I did it before, and we'll fucking win that way.

So I'm not afraid of that. And I would prefer that, because then now I can actually do what business owners did back in the day. It's got to be 06:00 at night. They put the key in the door, they locked the door, they went the fuck home. They could fucking chill. They could have a conversation with their family, spend time with their dogs or their kids or whatever they're into, bro. I don't have that luxury like that anymore. I'm on the phone every day till five or till ten, fucking 11:00 at night, talking about fucking work, bro, because that's where the game has progressed to because of the available technology, right? It's like steroids and baseball. Like, okay, a couple of guys start doing it, then fuck a couple more guys, then it's the way it is or you don't get paid. And that's what's happened in business and entrepreneurship. So for entrepreneurs now, if you're not playing the game all the time, you can't really be competitive because there's enough people that are doing that. And I think that really fucks the quality of life of people and families, but it's the way it is.

So I'm going to win because I'm a fucking winner.

And baseball is still being played.

Yeah, that's right. The game is still being played. And I'm going to play the game. I'm going to win the game. But what you got to give to win the game because of the technology available is actually much more, not less, like what people think it is. And I'm able to observe that, and I don't think that's good. I don't think that's a good thing. But getting to this specific topic, when I first heard this, I was like, fucking good. Ban them all. Great. But then I started hearing what this was really about from some different perspectives. I mentioned this Linda from wake up. Yeah, wake up with Linda. Her and I were talking about it and she was like, no, dude, look, this isn't about the chinese government. This is about the control of the data and their ability to censor a narrative because TikTok has woken up to what's going. You know, when we have the situation on the Internet where nobody's abiding by what the proposed, quote, elite narrative is, and everybody's like, nah, fuck this shit. That's a big problem for these people. So I've gone know, seeing it as the China narrative that they said to, seeing it as, oh, no, this makes more sense.

They're afraid of everybody talking. And this is the same reason they closed all the bars during COVID because the seeds of revolution are sown in taverns, bro. So when you have a public square that's not fucked with, eventually people come to the realization of what the truth is and they can't have that. So that's how I see this happening now. Which makes me say, okay, as much as I hate social media, this should not be happening. And, yeah, there needs to be a solution where it continues to operate and we keep it from the american government doing the same thing that the chinese government's doing.

Now, there's got to be a tech solution out there. Have you heard how TikTok is used differently in China than it is in the United States?

Dude, I've seen it.

Like, what, their algorithm?

No, dude, they show.

Largely an educational tool.

Yes, dude, they show fucking videos. So, like, here, dude, it's act as absurd as possible and you get the most views. Okay. There's a video of this person on the Internet fucking rolling around in shit with a pig mask on. And it's got, like, did I send you that?

That was just. Go. Personal contacts. I didn't mean to share that.

That was you shit.

That went.

I don't know. It's hard to say. There's a mask.

The funny thing is.

I didn't mean for that to get out.

The funny thing is, I got it sent by all our mutual friends. They all sent it to me because.

We all, like, fucked up shit.

Yeah, dude, but, dude, this video has got, like, a hundred million views, right? Well, in China, they got videos of the kids putting together Rubik's cubes. That gets a hundred million views. So we're talking about, like, I believe that that's an actual subversion technique that's happening.

I don't think it's accidental.

Yeah, no, I don't think so. There's no way that's accidental.

And, dude, a lot of the fucking trans bullshit that's happening in the world is pushed over here from China, too. Some of the biggest trans donors, just like George Soros, does all this shit with the prosecutors in every city. There's three chinese guys. I don't have their names on top of my head. These three dudes are donating billions of dollars to the trans organizations here in America. And then over in China, they're fucking donating against those things. So, like, what is both sides of the chest, dude? What does that tell you?

If you just look at it? Like, competition, that's the path that I would also take.

And, dude, isn't that kind of weird how 20 years ago, they started removing the ideals of competition from our youth? Remember, like, right after we graduated high school, the participation trophies started coming in, and it was no longer like, hey, you got to work hard and win. It was now like, hey, just show up. That all comes from these motherfuckers. So we have to start recognizing these social initiatives that are actual cultural weapons against know things. Like, everybody wins, you know, removing the pledge of allegiance from the know, cancel culture, silent majority, political correctness. These are all weapons against culture here in America that do not exist over there or anywhere else.

Here's the interesting thing on this topic, though, right? So you follow the money. There's also a lot of money coming from China going to Biden.

Right? A lot.

Tens of millions of dollars.

Right?

That shit's already been discovered. The interesting thing here is how the White House and Joe Biden, they're saying that they're going to support this bill and support the ban. So it's like, there's also going to be some implications here. Like, okay, well, how does that taint that relationship then? Because this would be a big spit in their face, if you know what I'm saying. You're fucking up their plans.

Mean, could it be like, all right, we have a choice here. We can either do what China wants and lose because we're losing the narrative, or we could try to save our own asses. You see what I'm saying?

Like trying to jump ship.

Well, no, dude. Look, if the entire TikTok platform has woken up, which it appears that it has, that means their progressive narrative has fallen apart in the Gen Z, which is the main demographic. So they have a choice. The choice is either appease China and let them continue to do this, or guaranteed to lose the culture and probably lose their position of power and be held accountable. So usually choices come down when they're hard to the lesser of two evils, and that's what it seems like they're choosing. That's how I see it. What do you think?

I agree with what you're saying. Again, sometimes both think, yeah, right.

It's not always this or that.

It's binary. Maybe there's a shade of truth in all of that. Maybe we're all idiots and we don't know what we're talking about. Speaking for myself, I fall definitely into that bucket. But the money from China supporting Biden or any other political pant, that shit doesn't surprise me at all. It's a very od relationship we have with that country in the first place. They're one of our main trading partners, but also portrayed as one of our main enemies. You look at the fentanyl crisis in the United States, the precursor chemicals are clearly coming out of China, being transported to Mexico, where they're being received by militarized chinese individuals. They're then being turned over to the cartel, turned into fentanyl, and then coming up through the southern border largely. I know that comes in in other ways. And all over the United States, we're feeling the impact of that. Where I live up in northwestern Montana, so I wish I could say it was something that simple. The web is fucking deep from a money perspective, to a trading partner, to a global, to what's going on in society. I mean, not an easy explanation exceeds my IQ for sure.

Well, I think also, dude, I think what's kind of funny about this, though, is that they put the effort into creating social media to really help control the narrative in society and it's blowing up in their face.

Backfire completely.

Yeah.

Because they can't stop it.

I like that. That's fun.

Little chaos.

Yeah. I like when people do something to really try and hurt someone else or get an edge on someone else and then seeing it blow up in their face. That's appropriate.

Mainstream media sources probably don't enjoy the fact that people can be their own reporter at all.

They fucking hate it.

They probably have to look at the.

Revenue and the rating model is based off of it. Yeah.

They probably despise it at a very deep level. Yeah, I was going to say it makes me appreciate it.

Yeah, for sure. Well, dude, guys like you, guys like me, all these other guys out here doing that, we are the media now. You know what I'm saying? The media has been fractured into a thousand little pieces, and we all have our own little communities that we speak know. And like we said, rogan's got a fucking ridiculously massive, you know, that's the media. Like, people don't trust, like, they don't trust know, plastic people on television to. And it also lends itself to business too, who they want to buy from. You know what saying? Like, dude, when we talk about black rifle and I see these guys, I'm like, you would rather buy? What would you rather buy? Folgers. You'd rather buy folgers from fucking some of the biggest conglomerates in the world, guys who don't give a fuck about you, but you're going to drag these three dudes or four dudes who have built this amazing company, you know what I'm saying? That doesn't make fucking sense, bro. And we have a creator economy that's truly taking place where people are leaving. And I actually think we're in the middle of an economic revolution as well with people's money.

People are starting to realize, like, hey, dude, I'm going to buy from this guy because I fucking like that guy. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to buy from these guys because they're not those guys.

Origin is a good example of that, bro.

Yeah.

It's not as cheap as what? You could get commercially made overseas, but people are willing to get behind it and vote with their wallet because of what it stands for beyond just the transaction itself.

Yeah, and, dude, you'd have to be a pretty fucked up human being to not like Pete. Pete's an awesome dude. You know what I'm saying? He's a great man. All the guys involved with that company are the same. They're cut from the same cloth. They sell a pair of jeans that's three times as expensive as any other pair of jeans, but it'll last for 50 fucking years like they used to.

And your ass will look four times as good.

Yeah, well, that's important.

Throw that in the math. Now we're looking, like, reasonable.

Listen, I'll spend a little extra money to make my ass look good.

I need all the help I can get.

Me too, bro. I wasn't blessed in the booty department.

Me either. Yeah, me either.

You got no booty?

No, I got no ass.

Well, that's your white part, right?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just wish it would have touched the wallet part. Guys, jumping on this conversation down in the comments, let us know what you guys think. With that being said, let's keep this cruise moving. Let's head over to headline number two. Headline number two reads, west Point removes duty, honor, country from its mission statement. This is an interesting one. Let's dive into this a little bit. This is a Breitbart article reading. West Point superintendent, Army Lieutenant General Steve Gilland on Monday announced a new mission statement for the venerable institution that replaces the words duty, honor, country for the more generic, quote, army values. So the West Point's previous mission statement was, quote, to educate, train, and inspire the corps of cadets so that each graduate is a commissioned leader of character, committed to the values of duty, honor, country, and prepared for a career of professional excellence and service to the nation as an officer in the United States army. The new statement says, to build, educate, train, and inspire the Corps of cadets to be commissioned leaders of character, committed to the army values, and ready for a lifetime of professional excellence and service to the army and nation.

So Gillan indicated in a statement that he wanted to focus more on the, quote, mission essential task of, quote, build, educate, train, and inspire versus duty, honor, country. So he wrote a full message on the West Points website. It says, duty, honor, country is foundational to the United States Military Academy's culture and will always remain our motto. It defines who we are as an institution and as graduates of West Point. These three hollowed words are the hallmark of the cadet experience and bind the long gray line together across our great history. Our responsibility to produce leaders to fight and win our nation's wars require us to assess ourselves regularly. Thus, over the past year and a half, working with leaders from across West Point and external stakeholders, we reviewed our vision, mission, and strategy to serve this purpose. We believe our mission binds the academy to the army, the army in which our cadets will serve. As a result of this assessment, we recommend the following mission statement to our senior army leadership. So, guys, what do we got on this?

Did they change it or do they just submit this as a recommendation?

Oh, it's changed.

Go back one slide.

So both the secretary of the army and Army chief of staff, they both approved the change as well. Go back to which part?

Right there.

Yeah. Wow.

I had not heard that about this.

This happening.

I just saw this yesterday.

I had not heard that. I don't know. And again, this is my own personal opinion. I don't know if people realize how dangerous doing something like that is and the impact that it will have on the young leaders coming forward into the military. If you don't define your mission statement, there's absolutely no way that people are going to understand what it is. Now, the core values here at first form three or four different locations that I've seen them, people have to know is expected of them so they can perform those tasks. It's one of the things I see leaders making a mistake on all the time. My people are underperforming like, okay, I'll go to one of their people. Hey, can you define for me what your job is? Not really.

I'll be right back.

I need to go talk to your boss because your fucking boss is doing a poor job of holding himself accountable to you. You have to know what your job is before I can expect you to do it. Know the military is an extension and the action arm of United States foreign policy. At the end of the day, if you want to reduce it down to everything, it's our ability to conduct and fight war to protect what we believe in in this country, the duty, honor, country, it's always going to be a part of it, but we're not going to say those things anymore. And this is a little bit of an incomplete article because I bet you duty, honor, country is all over in West Point. I haven't been to West Point, but I bet you it's all over the walls there. If they're going to leave that up on the wall, that would be a very good thing, but they need to reinforce those things. The core values are only as valuable as the people who read them and their understanding of it. And if you start taking away things like duty, honor and country, and not that the other core values are bad, you're going to shift.

You're modifying your inputs, which is going to inform your output, which are the young leaders in the United States army. The army is a service branch that fucking fights on the ground anywhere that they are asked to go. It's very different than the community that I came in in the navy. My job inside of the Navy, I expected direct combat engagement with our enemy because that was part of my job. Most people who join the navy, whether they want to join for that or to avoid it, they're not going to encounter that on a ship, right? Not that you can't have naval warfare. It would be tough in the modern era, I think, for that to kick off, except for like another first world nation. But if you join the army, you can expect that your job is going to be a profession of arms. You have to be treated like that at all times. I look at this as a very, and again, I need to do some more research on this, but I look at this just initially looking at that changing of the core values, becoming a little more vague in the core values.

If you fuck with inputs, you're going to get a different output. I would ask them, what is the output that they are looking for, and is that actually going to serve the best interests of this country going forward? Because changes like this, they take time to. It's like spinning the wheel on an aircraft carrier. Not that they're capable of being steered with a wheel, but you could spin it and spin it, spin and spin it, and then much later the nose of the ship starts turning. This is kind of the same thing. This will take time for the nose to start turning, but the same thing is true if you try to have to one stop that turn, because the first thing that happens when you start spinning the wheel in the other direction is you actually stop the turn much later and then it starts coming back. So this could have very, very deep, long term value shifts and potential consequences inside of the military. I mean, in my mind, if you look at any job, what is the real world expectation of your job? If the army, the real world expectation is to conduct this nation's battles wherever they may be, everything has to be reverse engineered from that.

It either enhances the soldier's ability on the battlefield, or it needs to be stripped off and shit canned. Or remodeled until you can show me that it helps enhance performance when you are being challenged with the standard that the real world is going to provide for you, anything outside of that is total bullshit, in my opinion.

And we're talking about the leaders here. Like the future leaders that are going to be leading.

Correct. Again, though, the future leaders where they would truly get to that leadership position. You start the academy. This is like a ten to 15 year fuse on this because that's how long it will take them to get into those senior officer leadership roles. It's not something that will shift overnight.

Sure. Yeah.

I mean, what you got on this?

My mind automatically when I see this. I agree with everything that you're saying 100% about culture and how it changes and how it's like turning around an aircraft carrier.

It takes forever.

Right? For sure. It's a real process. And when I look at this, how I see this, the way my mind works is I try to zoom out and ask myself, why? Why would you do this? Why would you do this? And when I think about that and then I see democratic senators talking about putting these military age males that are coming across the border into our military as a way to gain citizenship. And then we're talking about removing one of the core values that basically talks about loyalty to our country. That's where my mind starts to go. Is this something that they're doing to make the military more appealing and more compliant, potentially towards taking action against our own citizens if need be? That's what scares me. That's where my mind goes automatically.

That is an interesting thought process because I've heard in talks of civil war people saying it's great you got AR 15 because the F 16 is going to smoke you. Which from a logistical perspective, everybody listening, write this down. That's fucking true. Or the predator or reaper with the hellfire, like, don't shoot up at this guy, at drones. I've seen that done before. It doesn't terminate well for the user. It's an interesting thought process because my feeling has always been as long as from everybody I've known in every branch of the military, the last thing that they would ever do would be turn firepower on their fellow citizens.

Right.

It becomes a different value proposition when you talk about replacing those individuals joining with that different cohort. I haven't spent much time thinking about that, but it's an interesting point.

But how many of those good people, good hearted servicemen and women, have they removed from service? Going back to the COVID era, going back to the, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, there were some.

I'm sure there's still quite a few. Great. Listen, there's going to be great people.

Such a vast minority of our citizens. I think it sits at 0.5% right now of the US population is currently serving in the military. It's super, super small and it always has been. I think 6% was at the peak during somewhere near World War I and World War II. Some of those people were not there voluntarily, for clarity.

Right.

But that's peak service. 6%. We're well underneath 1% right now. So it's always been a minority. But if it is that small of a number, how much would you have to on board of people with a different. That's what I'm saying. Again, I haven't thought about it a lot. So it's an interesting point that you bring up.

Yeah. We have senators talking about it.

We say, okay, putting in bills.

Path to citizenship. When I joined in 96, there was a path to citizenship for people who did join the military from, like, specifically. I know, the Philippines. So it's not a totally new concept. Yeah, I think you're talking about. No, they're fast tracking this well, and if they are fast tracking it for that reasons, it would be the weaponization of a policy that would, again, not short term, but they could have some really dangerous long term consequences.

Yeah. When I see what these people are doing, and I'm of the opinion that between now and November, they are going to try. They just had a vote or a poll. I can't remember if it was a poll or a vote, but not a single Democrat in Congress voted or polled against the idea of not allowing these people to vote in the next election. So the Congress that exists right now is unanimous on the democratic side, thinking that all of these people across the border should have a vote in this year's election, that's worrisome.

Do you think they're unanimous behind closed doors? That's what I wonder.

Do they actually fucking believe? I think these people who want to hang on to power, however, I think.

A lot of them are, and I.

Think they understand they've lost a lot of the minority vote that they have had without question for the last 40 years. Black America has woken up to this shit. We have some of the biggest black voices in the world saying, hey, I'm voting for fucking Trump. Fuck these people. And when I look at what's happening with the vote thing, what would be the next step? Okay, now these people can vote. Oh, by the way, if you want to fast track your citizenship, join the military. Oh, and by the way, you're going to join the military. And we got those domestic terrorists over there. That was our old military and we got to take care of them because they're causing us fucking problems. Those people won't hesitate to do that. So like, yes, people like you and your friends and the people that you were in the military with, they would never do something like that. And honestly, up until COVID, I always felt like our military was a true line that would hold the line between the government and the people. And I always assumed they would side with the people. But when I watched what happened with COVID and the amount of crazy shit that was happening, I felt like there would be more leadership coming from that area of the military saying, hey, this isn't right.

We're not going to do this. When they're talking about building FEMA camps for fucking people who are unvaccinated. That scared the fuck out of me, dude. I'm not sure. I feel that our military is on the people's side the way that they used to be because I feel like a lot of those people have retired or they have moved on and we have a different value system and I don't really know where we stand with that. How long did it take for our law enforcement, there was a few sheriff's offices across the country to finally stand up and say, hey, we're not arresting people for going outside without a mask, bro. Like for months and months and months they were doing that. And then eventually a couple sheriffs out in California said, hey, fuck this, we're not doing that. And then a few more joined. I mean, why did it go on that long? Why were the riots allowed to go on the way that they were allowed to go on? Why have these police officers and military not stood up and said, hey, this is not what the fuck we signed up for. We signed up to protect the interest of our citizens and we're not doing that.

And I'm not privy to the internal power flow of those organizations. And when I talk to the guys behind closed doors, they usually tell me, they're like, bro, it's the leadership. All the guys agree with what you're saying, but it's a leadership fucking. And I'm like, well, there's a whole lot of you and not very many of them. Like, can't you guys kind of get together?

That's called a mutiny, sir. I understand against the UCMJ.

I understand that. However, so is violating your oath of duty. Yeah, that's right, man. I don't know.

I think this was more or less.

I'm a hyper vigilant person, bro, because, like, dude, I've grown up in business, all right? And in business, if you're not hyper vigilant, you fucking lose. And so when I start to see a problem come up on the horizon, I fucking crush it, right? Like, it could be a little bitty problem. Like, I just came out of a meeting right before I saw you today, where I could tell our standard on this one thing that we were doing was starting to slip. And I went in there and said, hey, we're not fucking doing it until it's right. And these things are. I'm used to whacking the mole way out in front of the path. And so when I take my business mind and I apply it to what's going on, I just see this could be really bad. And that's just naturally how I think.

Yeah, I think, bare minimum, this is demoralization of our military, which has been a constant theme. A constant theme from the LGBT shit that's infested it. These they thems in these high ranked positions in our military.

You mean like showing all those officers cross dressing, like, in multiple pictures?

Did you see the pup mass general and the fucking cosplay pup mask thing?

Your guys Internet search history might be a touch different than mine. I did not see that.

Hold on, I'll show you a picture. Dude.

Dude, I'm not doubting it. You know the one thing, Andy, I don't know if by design, the US military was never supposed to stand between the government and the know. Pasi comatatus exists for exactly that reason. Because the military cannot be used in a policing capacity. By doctrine, they're more of like a weapons out external, away from the shore. You know what I mean?

You didn't see that?

That's not real.

No, that's fucking real.

The fuck.

That is real.

No, that is real.

That is fucking real.

That is real. And there's, like more of them too.

No, as an official photo, his military.

Photo, it got put out along with these here.

This is about, what, 18 months ago, DJ.

Yeah.

Here's what I can say about the military. You're talking about devaluing the military. For the last ten years, every branch of the military has fallen short of their recruiting goals, except for the Marines and space force. Yeah, there's a reason for it. And I think it would be hard to say this is the reason. I think it's easier to say things like this. Why is that shit blacked out?

Notice how it's a white guy?

I was about to say it was big circles, but yeah, I mean, if.

I was going to do that, I would use the biggest circle that I could find just to lie to people. Like, why is it rectangle? Yeah, why is it down to your knees? Like, that's just where it is. So I have to use that circle. There is nothing good, in my opinion, that can come from promoting that type of stuff in the military. Because again, I look at the job that I held in the military. If you reduce my job down in the military, we needed to locate somebody who was likely at a place where they felt the safest and arrive at their doorstep, in their country, in their village, in their house, at a time that is the least opportune for them. Everything that I do needs to be pointing towards that from a training, equipping, manpower, logistics, that's my job. Everything that I do needs to make me better at that job. Highlighting people in pup masks, especially if they're doing that from a professional perspective or getting behind that as a military writ large. There's no dots in my mind that connect one of those things to the other. Yeah, but it can certainly detract, because what if somebody who wanted to go down the path that I wanted to go down, like I knew I wanted to be a seal since I was eleven years old and I didn't have the Internet, I had my father talking about his limited experiences.

Well, I had that, which, trust me, by that time we were doing VHS. And I think I ran the wheels out on that fucker like three times. So of course, back to Blockbuster, which you probably don't even understand.

I know blockbuster. I still got some coins.

That's what I'm talking about, bro.

But have you ever been in one?

They don't know the best thing.

Do you know the fucking struggle of not seeing behind the picture of the movie you want?

I'm pretty sure the movie there.

So you have to go to the turn in bin to see, right? Because that's where the good shit, dude.

You'Re like looking through the slot and then if you see one in there, you got to grab the lady and say, hey, can you give me that? Navy SEAls out of there and they're like, fuck. Again.

So I did have that and I did have my dad. I didn't know or meet a single seal before I joined because I didn't know a seal and I lived in Santa Cruz, California. So now though, just using it through the lens of my own kids. None of them have expressed the desire to go into the military, which I'm fine with, and I also would be fine with if they wanted to make that choice. But let's say my oldest son was eleven and he had a phone, and that's what's being portrayed to him as what the military is, what they stand for, what they do. As a parent, if I was the sole point arguing against what he is seeing online like that, it makes sense to me that the numbers are trending the way that they are. That is not beneficial, in my opinion, to recruitment or the national defense of our country.

Let me ask you this, because I know it's an oxymoron of military intelligence. Right. But I know there's a lot of smart leadership. So how could you be making these decisions willfully? Unless, again, there's some intentionality to it.

I would want to know where the decision was made. Just because you're a high ranking officer in the military, admiral or general, sure there are policy decisions that can be made above your head. Again, it is your job to implement the foreign policy of the United States, not create the foreign policy of the United States, and it trickles downhill. So they have things that they can control and then they have things that they are dictated to.

Now, you were saying before we got into the putt mask thing, which is.

All I want to talk about now, and I actually would like one.

I just ordered it.

You were saying guns out.

The role of the military, it's a national defense tool. It was never designed to be used internally to separate the people from the government, vice versa.

Right.

So what happens in a situation where, let's say, a whole bunch of people that are tired of what's going on decide that they want to do something.

About it, state and federal, it would probably be a state and federal response, which, again, you're going to run into the same problems because we're talking about neighbors. Most law enforcement people live in the communities that they, you know, the civil war, where the state and federal resources that are designed to respond, and I'm not an expert on the National Guard. I don't know their limitations and what they are authorized to do and not do. I know they're often used in protests and things.

It's remanded at the state level most of the time.

That's what I'm saying. So it would be more of a state and federal response. And that's the people in your neighborhood potentially taking arms up against the people in your neighborhood because you're being directed to do so from higher. I don't know what that would look like, man. I don't want to see it either.

No, I want to see it. I don't either.

For civil war, it's like, shut the fuck up. You don't even know what you're asking, brother.

I don't either at all. But the problem that I see is we've got Joe Biden on record taking money from China. We have our oil reserves being drained to the lowest strategic level ever. We have a shit ton of our military assets left in Afghanistan. We have multiple conflicts going on at the same time, potentially with now the Middle east. We have this invasion happening at the border. We have all of this crazy shit. We have all of this nonsense, far progressive, ridiculous demoralization happening in our school systems and in culture. And it all leads back to China. And China has given this man a lot of money and the media is trying to cover that fact. It's on fucking Hunter Biden's laptop. There's all kinds of evidence. There's Tony Bobalinski and all these other dudes coming out saying, yeah, they did do. So at what point do we look and we say, hey, this is being intentionally done. The destruction of this country or the third worldization of this country is being intentionally done by these people? And at what point in time do the people who have taken an oath to protect the country say, hey, this is fucking wrong, and we can't stand by and allow it to happen?

And that's where is that line? I guess you know what I'm saying?

I do not know.

Yeah, guys, jumping on this conversation. Let us know down in the comments, guys, what you guys think? With that being said, let's keep this cruise moving. Headline number three.

God, look at that outfit.

You like what I'm saying, dude?

Windsor knot on the right hand side. God, I need one actually.

Yeah, I'm going to get you one. We're going to roll around, recruit people for the revolution.

Sweet. I'll wear a World War II aviator helmet with goggles with that and probably like an ascot.

Yeah, everybody will take us seriously. They probably would.

Headline number three reads, Georgia Judge Scott McAfee dismisses three charges against Donald Trump. This is just a little update. Been watching stuff going down in Georgia. It appears that there may be some consequences coming out for Fannie Willis and her sexual escapades with her lover. But yeah, so a couple of cases are starting to get dismissed. A couple of charges are getting dismissed. Now that stuff's starting to roll down. Let's just skate this a little bit. Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee on Wednesday dismissed three charges against former President Donald Trump in the election interference case. In total, dismissed charges include six counts in the indictment, including three against Trump. Prosecutors can refile the quashed charges, McAfee wrote in his order. Trump is still charged with more than half a dozen counts. Trump was originally charged with 13 total, so Trump faces a maximum of 76 and a half years in state prison if convicted on each of the charges and consecutively enforced. The Associated Press reported the ruling as a blow for Fulton County District Attorney Fanny Willis, whose case has already been on shaky ground with an effort to have her removed from the prosecution over her romantic relationship with a colleague.

It's the first time charges in any of Trump's four criminal cases have been dismissed, with a judge saying prosecutors failed to provide enough detail about the alleged crime. The order comes ahead of McAfee's pending ruling on whether Fulton county prosecutor Fanny Willis will be removed from the Trump case. McAfee pledged on the radio last week the ruling would come this week at the end of the disqualification hearings. McAfee told the court he would deliberate for two weeks. The judge previously said Willis could be removed from the case, which would hand a large victory to. Yeah, so three of those charges were removed because she didn't even specify what felony he violated or allegedly violated or committed. And of course, we always got the race card being played. This headline reads, race is an ever present source of tension in Trump Georgia case. It's kind of bullshit.

Nobody's buying that shit no more.

Everybody's over it, bro. There was a video, I tried to pull it up. It's like this black couple, because Georgia, in this specific area, it's about 50 50 almost, right? But there was this clip that's been going around viral. It's like these two black young couple, and they're asking them like, okay. And it's a bet interview, right? They're asking them, okay, well, who'd you vote for in 2008, right? And the guy goes, Obama. Obama. Cool. 2012, Obama. Obama. 2016. He says Trump. And his girlfriend says Biden or Hillary Clinton. 2020.

Trump.

Biden. 2024.

Trump.

She's like, I'm going to go with Trump. This whole racial narrative, it's over.

Well, I think a lot of black people, I'm going to go ahead and speak for all black.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because I have such experience as a member of the.

Yeah, I'm an honorary member of the NCAA.

That's right. I'm an honorary member of the correct. Look, man, I think what's happening, what I can observe, is that a lot of black people in the United States are really fucking tired of being lumped in with this crazy race shit. Because, dude, real talk, most black people are just like everybody else. They're normal motherfuckers. They want to fucking make money. They want to go out and live their lives. They don't want to be fucked with. They don't want crime. They don't want high taxes. They want to be treated normal. And I feel like there's this racial tension. A lot of people are feeling it, and they're like, bro, this isn't how we feel. This is not what we think. And they're finally getting vocal about it. And you know what it's like, bro, you spoke out about this for a number of years, and when you first started speaking out about it, you were attacked very hard from the black community. Right?

Oh, bro, I got my ass beat.

Really?

Oh, bro.

Uncle Tom Coon, bro, it was bad. Yeah. And so that's kept a lot of black people from saying what they really think. But I think finally they've caught enough. They're tired of getting lumped in with it so much that they're like, no, fuck this, dude. We're not like, know, and I think that's a beautiful, um. And that's what I see happening.

She's going to go to jail.

She should.

She is going to go to. Have you been following this case down there? A little.

Know. I know that the legal system, or I should say, what's going on with Trump in the legal system, it is very easy to develop an emotional reaction about it. And I try to view this. I remind myself if it was me under this level of scrutiny or if I was charged with something like this, what would I want to have happen? I would want for people to not make up their mind until the system actually played itself out. So that is what I try to tell myself, because I do see this particular, and this kind of speaks to the weapons nation of law like you were talking about. I do see that. It seems to me that there is an essence of theater with this. There's an essence of distraction with this. And so I don't know what's true and what isn't. And I think the safest thing for myself and for probably almost everybody is to sit back, sit down, take a breath, don't say shit, and let's let the system actually play itself out. So I haven't been following it incredibly close because I, quite frankly, cannot determine who the fuck is telling the truth.

No shit.

And if I can't do that, I'm actually not really interested in being deeply attached to it, because I am then making what I think to be an objective, logical decision off of potentially false information. I think it's super dangerous to do that. And I constantly go back to, what if this was me? I would hope that people would let the system play itself out before dragging me through the street corner.

Well, let's say if it was you, and let's say, for example, do I.

Get to be president first?

Okay. Yeah, for sure. Let's just say it's you. You're president.

I have a sweet book deal.

All right, library. Hold on. I want a staff job.

Here's your campaign picture.

Yeah, there you go.

Actually, every time that picture. I was just on the PBD podcast, and so many people in the comments are like, what is that, a fucking congressional poster? I know. Like, a red background.

Oh, shit.

People are like, are you running for office? I'm like, no, I swear to God I'm not.

Dude, that does look like a political photo. Yeah.

You take out the trees in the background, and you make it, like, just either a red or a blue background.

We'll get you a seal, bro. It'd be awesome.

Little trident.

I'll come out. I'll do what? KJ?

Secretary of treasury?

No, bro, I'm going to come out. I want to be the press secretary.

Does anybody want that job?

Holy fuck, I want it. I'll fucking destroy those people every single day. I would be the greatest press secretary ever.

They would actually not know how to deal with that. That could be amazing for the short tenure that I think you would hold the job.

I want to oversee your hood, housing.

Okay.

And food stamps and shit. Yeah, I'm cutting all of it.

So, basically, you're going to eliminate your own job.

No, my job. I'll be fine.

We'll still need it.

We didn't need enough of it to employ you.

Right.

Okay, I got it.

So what were we going to say? If it was me?

Yeah. So if it's you, and the question becomes, okay, we don't know who's telling the truth, but if they're weaponizing the justice system, and we can't trust the justice system, then if we let it play out, there's a good chance of injustice. My. Because it seems very obvious to me. Know, when we look, say, let's take St. Louis here, right? St. Louis had a George Soros funded prosecutor here who would not prosecute violent crime. So in the black communities in St. Louis, and St. Louis is always one or two in the murder capital of the United States, these people were doing these violent crimes and literally spending an hour in jail and being released. And if you talk to the police officers here, it demoralizes them. They're like, dude, it doesn't matter if we arrest them because they get out in an hour. All right? So when we talk about the level of corruption that's happening in that situation, and then we amplify that to, let's say, a case against unpopular with the minority president, like Donald Trump, at this point in time, how can we trust that the justice system is still just? And that's where my concern, because I agree with you.

Like, in most cases in the history of the United States of America that we both have grown up in, I would 1000% agree with that. I'm like, hey, just let the court do their jobs. But when I see, for example, this Trump situation where he's being forced to pay 300 and $400 million or whatever ends up being to this woman in New York who has already very clearly said that he didn't actually do the things that the violent rape that the media is making it out to be, we start to see a level of know, like Gregorian or whatever that guy's name is, that judge, he was laughing when he handed down that fine to Trump, which is an unprecedented fine that's never been done in the history of fucking court. So that's where my concern comes in. It's like, okay, has the tree of justice been poisoned? To the point of that we can't let things play out because they're just going to throw people that they don't like in jail or find them or ruin them financially. And we see case after case of this, a lot of people, not a lot of people, but there's people out here who have swallowed this idea that Donald Trump has committed whatever they got, 91 felonies or whatever, right?

But they don't stop and ask, okay, are those real cases? Because in their mind, they're thinking, like.

Well, of course the number they.

Well, no, like, dude, you got to remember, just like, these people who were forced into getting the vaccine, right? And they were mad at the people who were trying to stop it. They weren't mad at the people forcing them to get the vaccine. They were mad at the people who were trying to get them not get it. And now we have a where all kinds of people are having side effects. There's all kinds of situations happening, and those people are realizing that they're the victims of a play. And when we look at the situation with Trump and we see what's happening with all of know charges and things, their assumption, just like during COVID is there's no way the media would lie about all this shit. There's no way Dr. Fauci would lie about this thing. There's no way every single media outlet is lying to us. And it turns out, guess what? They were. And so now we have a situation where the same people are falling for the same thing when it comes to the court system. There's no way they would charge somebody with 91 felonies if it's not true, right? I think that's reasonable to think.

And when we go back over the course of history, before COVID I would have said, all right, they charged this dude with 91 felonies. He probably did some shit, right?

There's smoke, there might be.

Yeah, that's what I would say. But now after witnessing all of this, I'm like, well, is there, you know what I mean? Is this real stuff? It's so hard to tell now.

It's dangerous too, because you're talking about people losing faith in the foundational premises. Premicide.

That's what I'm saying, dude, whatever the.

Word may be of the country.

But, bro, that's what the goal of communism is. It's about demoralization and destabilization of the country. So if we don't believe that our media is telling the truth and we don't believe that our borders are secure, and we don't believe that our court system is doing the right job, then what do we actually have to believe know? And that's part of the globalization process. Globalization is about the removal of what is called nationalism, but we call it here in America being a patriotic American, and they're removing this and they're importing all these people that do not belong in our culture, who don't have any affinity or loyalty or regard for our culture here in America. And they're mixing that all in at the same time creating these doubts and these cracks and these questions about our fundamental basis of what this country really is. And eventually it's going to get to a point, if it continues, where we're going to look at it and we're going to say, this doesn't mean anything anymore. And that's the scary part about it for a long time. This kind of sort of answers my question. About why nobody stepped in to fix this, because it does seem like Trump is allowing it to play out.

And I think the reason that he's allowing it to play out, I think he knows a lot of stuff, obviously. He knows a lot of shit we don't know. I mean, he's privy to a lot of information. This guy's not a fucking idiot. He's a very successful man. They make him out to be an idiot. He's not a fucking idiot. He's 80 years old, bro. He's been a very successful entrepreneur. You take the shit that somebody like me has learned in 25 years of being an entrepreneur and multiply that by double. This guy is pretty fucking good at what he does. He's a chess guy, right? And when I take that into consideration and I watch this play out, it almost appears to me like he's allowing it to play out intentionally for the preservation of the structures that we're talking about.

So people could almost see going down your line of thought, so people could see how far it's gone, the system.

Has gone, and then also it could be corrected and preserved after that. You know what I mean? So it doesn't burn all the way to the ground, because the minute the military steps in or the minute something happens, all of that shit that's existed for 247 or eight years is over.

Yeah, we're going to have to get the pen and paper out again.

Right. So it's just a very interesting time, that's for sure.

What a time to be alive.

Yeah.

Guys, jumping on this conversation down in the comments, let us know what you guys think. With that being said, man, let's get to our final segment of the show. As always, we like to do this little bit called thumbs up or dumb as fuck. This is where we bring a headline up and we give our opinion. Is it a thumbs up or is this dumb as fuck? So, for this episode's thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline, headline reads, New Jersey father arrested for barging into classroom to confront teen. Apologize to my daughter.

That's a headline.

Got some man action here. Let's dive into this. An overprotective New Jersey father has been arrested after he was caught on camera walking into a high school classroom to yell at a teenage boy and grab another student by the arm. Aaron Thomas, 38, was filmed entering the classroom at Paulsboro High School in Gloucestershire. What is that? What the fuck is that?

What is that?

Gloucester county.

Where the fuck is Glauchester H in there?

I think it's just Gloucester.

Gloucester.

Gloucester? Yeah.

Maybe the person wrote it left the h out.

Gloucester county on Monday. Yeah, Glaucoma. That's what it is. In Glaucoma county on Monday and demanding that a teenage boy apologize to his daughter. Quote, you got a problem with my daughter? He asked a teenager in the video posted to Instagram, apologize to my daughter. He demands the frightened child replies that he, quote, didn't do nothing to her. But Thomas apparently did not accept that as an answer, and his voice grew louder and more adamant. Quote, you heard what the fuck I said. Apologize to my daughter now. Here's the clip.

Come right here.

I didn't follow my daughter.

Apologize to my daughter. I didn't know it. You're what the fuck?

I said, apologize to my dad.

Now.

Bro.

I didn't do it.

I didn't do it to it.

Over shaking like a. She had pictures of me and my mom. I didn't do that. Yeah.

So Thomas was later arrested and charged with simple assault, making terroristic threats, trespassing, and disorderly conduct. He was released Tuesday until a trial could be held on the charges, but a judge ordered that he must have no contact with the students involved or their families and must maintain monthly contact with the court officials, according to New Jersey advanced media. Meanwhile, the 15 year old boy who was confronted by Thomas was back in class Wednesday, but was forced to leave after receiving anonymous threats on his cell phone. His parents told New Jersey advanced media they condemned school officials for, anonymous.

Yeah, anonymous.

They condemned school officials for failing to swiftly respond as their son was being berated by the angry father, and they are considering pulling the boy out of the public school district. But the son is, quote, totally distraught at the idea. The parents also dismissed the notion that Thomas was simply trying to defend his daughter. Guys, Andy, Andy and Andy, what do.

We got on this?

I mean, that's a no win situation for that guy. Like, I can totally empathize with being a father of a young daughter, and you don't want the world to interact with her in any way that would harm her. But there is actually nothing good that could have come out of this. To go into a public school could.

Have went really bad.

Surrounded by minors who have cell phones that had obviously made it onto social media, the kid is obviously saying, I didn't do anything and he's unwilling to do what you're telling him to do. What's your next?

He's pulling your car.

What's the escalation beyond that? You're going to start beating the shit out of a 15 year old like.

Apparently anonymous threats are going to continue.

Yeah. I mean, if you actually want to have something done in this situation, you go to the school administration as a parent and you deal with it through the school administration. If you want to take it another level, that I would not necessarily get.

A van and some duct tape.

I was going to go big mask when I was growing up. I've watched many a father beat the shit out of another father for something that their children had done.

That's right.

And I'm not advocating for that. I'm just saying that's a more nontraditional approach. If you don't want to go the school method, go talk to their parents. But what you should never do as a fucking grown adult is go confront a minor and think that it's going to go in your favor. Because whatever, let's assume that it was something verbal said and not like a horrendous sexual assault or assault of some kind. If it was something that that person said, there is no way that this ends other than something probably really bad happening to the parent and nothing happening to that kid. So if that's what you're going for, bon voyage. If you actually want to have an impact on the situation, I would take a different tact.

I've seen this happen growing up a number of times. The world's so different now. I can remember things like this happening when I was growing up.

I've seen it happen.

Yeah, dude, I've seen it. I've seen parents show up at bus stops and shit and choke kids. We in St. Louis, too? Yeah. California. Yeah, dude. And I know that sounds crazy, but we live in a different time. And when we were growing up, there was a place for. I don't know how to describe minor violence, like fucking, like fistfighting and slapping people. And there was just shit that happened that doesn't happen anymore. That kind of kept society in line. And I agree with you. This guy.

All downside, yes.

This guy grabs that kid, he's in fucking jail, right? I think this guy, from the way that he was acting, and he seemed pretty serious about it, and I doubt that he's probably going to let it go. So if I was this kid, this kid's probably going to be looking over his shoulder for a while. But I say all that to say this. He's not going to win that way 100%. It's a bad move. There's ways to handle things, and then there's ways to not handle things. And that's a way to not handle things. But I'll say this, too. When people solved their differences with a simple fistfight, the world was a better place. And I'm not saying that a grown man should beat up a 15 year old kid. I'm saying, in general, like, swings first. Listen, dude, I don't know, man.

I think you're still fucked.

Even though Jersey is a. Listen, I don't. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, in general, separate from this story. The real problem here is that there's no repercussions for any actions in society. People can say whatever they want to anybody. They can do whatever they want to anybody, and as long as they don't touch them, it's okay. And, bro, that's a hard way to have a functioning society. So now we have a bunch of little shitheads running around the country who think they're immune from any sort of repercussions at all. And then when the repercussions happen, they fucking play victim. And it's like, bro, that's not how it works. If you step on someone's toes, you should expect them to stomp on yours. That's sort of the order amongst men that has existed for thousands of years, and that's what's created a civil society. I know I'm not going to go fuck with Andy, because if I fuck with Andy, he's going to fucking fuck with me back. I don't want that. So guess what? How can we solve this without that? You know what I mean? And it creates a better society when there is a little bit of fear for physical repercussions amongst men.

And I also think it creates less violence, because now when people go to violence, they don't go to fistfights. They go to shooting people and stabbing people and doing extreme level shit, because that's where the situation escalates to. Because there's not a simple intervention such as a fistfight on the curb. And I know people when they hear that. That's shocking to hear for a lot of younger people. But the reality is I've grown up in both situations, and there was a lot more respect amongst men, even young men and older men, when there was a little bit of fear.

You watched your p's and Q's.

That's right, dude. Listen, man. I didn't want to have someone's dad up my ass when I was in fucking high school, bro. No. And you thought about those things. You're like, fuck. All right, I'm at this guy's house, his kid's being a fucking fuck. Should I beat this kid's ass? Well, probably not, because if I do, his dad's going to come downstairs and kick my ass. There was a civility that was maintained through respect and the fear of some sort of physical repercussion that doesn't exist anymore. And so we have this social media world where everybody says whatever the fuck they want. They get online, they talk all this mad shit that they would never, ever say if they were standing right in front of the person. And then there's no repercussions to that. So it escalates, and it escalates, and it escalates and escalates, and eventually, dude, people get sick of it and they snap, and they're like, fuck it. I'm going to kill this motherfucker. And they do, and we see it every day. So that's my take. And I doubt we'll ever go back to those times, but me, too. It was better.

That's my take.

I'm with it.

I think he fucked up here, bro. And I think this is not the way to handle it.

Yeah, I would have went to the father, the kid's father. I'm beating your ass.

Well, 100%.

I'll take those consequences.

Yeah.

I'm not going to go fuck with the kid, but I'm going to make sure I beat his ass in front of the kid. I'm also doing that.

Well, and then after probably film that, you're next.

I'm your daddy now. So, final thoughts? Thumbs up or dumb as fuck? What are we giving this?

I'm going dumb as fuck.

Yeah. I think he fucked up, man. I can understand his frustration, and I bet a lot of his.

I get what he's trying to do.

I bet if we sat down with that man right here, I bet his frustration would be exactly what I said, dude. These people say and do all this adult shit, and they talk all this adult shit, and they say all this shit, and they forget that there's people in the real world that'll fuck you, dude. Yeah.

Yeah. I say free my boy Aaron, though. I say free him.

Yeah. No jail for this guy.

No terroristic threats.

Come on. Come on. Yeah. Come on.

All right, well, cool. Well, guys.

Andy. Andy. That's all I got. Well, Andy, I appreciate you coming on, man.

Yeah, man. That was wild. We covered some ground.

Yeah. That was awesome. That was awesome. Guys, I forgot to mention the beginning of the think. You know, Andy's got a really awesome podcast called Clear Hot. So if you haven't listened to his show. I think you guys will really enjoy it. You'll enjoy his takes on what's going on and things he talks about. Anything else you got going on?

Next thing coming up personally is jumping into the 80th anniversary of Normandy with the black rifle crew, actually, that you were talking about. So that's kind of near term on the radar, man. And still just trying to figure out business every day as I go along.

Yeah. Well, brother, we really appreciate you coming on. It's long overdue, and I'm excited for people to hear this show. And if there's anything that we can ever do for you, just let me know, man.

Awesome. I really appreciate it, guys.

All right, guys, that's the show. Don't be a hooping on the flow now.

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