You are listening to the Reality Steve podcast with your host Reality Steve. He's got all the latest info. And behind the scenes juice on Tatia season of The Bachelorette and interviewing some of your favorite reality stars. Now, here's a reality, Steve. What's up, everybody? Welcome to podcast number 12.

I'm the host reality, Steve, needless to say, a very interesting podcast this week. Got two guests and they're both exes of people on.

Well, the reality TV world right now, we've got Josh Barro, the ex-husband of Tatia Adams, and we've got Dominic Scarless, who is the ex-girlfriend of Big Brother, all star contestant Memphis' Garrett, who just went public last week with his relationship with Christmas. Abbott So we'll get to them momentarily. A little back story on how these interviews came to be, Josh actually emailed me a couple of weeks ago and we've just kind of been going back and forth, figured now was a good time to sit down and record the interview, something he wasn't really interested doing at first.

As for Dominique, I actually have a cat to thank for setting this interview up since she recorded with Memphis and Christmas, which is up on her Conspire Way Bitches podcast right now if you want to hear their interview. I did want to say as a side note, because I know a lot of you have followed us for the past few months. Kat and I are no longer dating. I'm a private person. No one needs to know any details.

All you need to know is that we're still friends, will always care for each other. We basically been in touch every day since the breakup. And like I said, she helped me secure the Dominique interview. So nothing contentious. I'll always love the time we spent together.

You know, stuff happens. It's OK. Like I said, no bad feelings, no hard feelings. We'll always be friends and we still are.

So I guess you can call this podcast. I don't know. The exes speak out. Neither one of these people have done any interviews before. People have known that Josh Burrell was Taylor's ex-husband for two years now since Kolten Season.

He's never tweeted. He's never posted.

He's never give any outlet any interview regarding his marriage to Tasha. But he came to me a couple of weeks ago, I guess. Kind of fed up with the narrative that's been put out there about him. And put out there by Tatia, since she's the only other person that has spoken on their marriage between the two of them. We recorded this Tuesday afternoon before this week's episode aired, so I guess it becomes even more relevant now since Tatia again said her marriage ended because of infidelity.

I'll let Josh speak on that, among other things. For those that might be already forming an opinion, calling it sour grapes or telling him he's wrong for speaking about their marriage. First, just hear him out. Secondly. Taisha has been the only one who said anything about her marriage. Publicly, she said it on Kolten season and now she's talked about it time and time again on this season. And I think it's fair to say it's never really been in a positive light.

Josh hasn't said anything for two years until now. He could have gotten paid to talk to TMZ, who's been contacting him, could have gone to US Weekly, he could have gone anywhere else, but I appreciate him reaching out to me. So you'll hear him up first, about a 30 minute conversation and yeah, if you're a fan of Tatia, you probably won't like some of the things he has to say. But are you really being objective because she has controlled the narrative of their marriage for two years?

Josh hasn't been thrilled with how he's been portrayed, so he wants to speak on it. I don't see anything wrong with giving him his side. Then you'll hear from Dominique, who got a lot of run during a Big Brother All Stars this summer since she was dating Memphis while he was in the house. He talked about her all the time in the live feeds. We saw him acknowledge her during the live votes numerous times, like everyone in the House knew he had a girlfriend.

But was it just some fling?

How serious were they all? Let her tell you the extent of their relationship. Probably deeper than any of you probably thought. Were they still dating when Memphis and Christmas announced their relationship last week, whatever you want to call it? No, they weren't. They've been broken up. But I'd like you to listen to Dominique's story, the timing of when she found out about things, the change in Memphis over the last few weeks. And then you decide if you think the Memphis Christmas relationship seems on the up and up.

So. Two very good conversations, I enjoyed them. I'm glad both of them. Spoke out and just listen to what they have to say, because they were the ones in the relationship. We can judge from afar. But there was only one person in this world that's been married to Tatia Adams for two years. And that was Josh Barro and you're going to hear from him first on podcast number 212. OK, let's bring him in, he is Tatia, Adam's ex-husband, his name is Josh Burrell.

Josh, how are you doing? Good, Steve. How are you doing, man? I'm no good. Thanks for coming on to give people a little bit of a background here. You had contacted me on email a couple of weeks ago and had told me that you weren't really thrilled with what was being said about you publicly and what was being said on dates and you knew more stuff was coming. And, you know, immediately we're kind of going back and forth and I'm like, you know, what do you want to do here?

And you said, you know, I kind of want to I kind of want to tell my side.

I feel like she's kind of controlling the narrative of our marriage.

And all of it is negative and all of it seems to be falling on me. So I wanted to bring you on. We talked about this and, you know, bring you on and. Tell your side, tell exactly what you want to to get out, so why don't we just start off with, you know, kind of in your words why why you want to do this? Yeah.

So, you know, basically, ever since the show started, I, I consciously made the decision not to get involved in anything that has to do with the show. And, you know, honestly, when when she ended up going on The Bachelor, I got phone calls from, you know, a bunch of different tabloids and stuff. And my my answer to every tabloid was like, you know, I wish you the best. You know, I know she's doing exactly what she wants to be doing right now.

So, you know, this is a great opportunity for her. And honestly, I just wish her the best. And and then, you know, while she was on The Bachelor, she she did bring up the fact that, you know, the reason why our relationship failed in her opinion was that I I had cheated. And, you know, when that first happened, I said, well, OK, you know, I guess it's fine for her to say it one time, but now it just continues to happen.

And really, the only. The only perception of me from the audience is that I am the guy who cheated on Tatian, so I mean, I feel like that's a slight injustice to me because there was a lot more to it than that, you know. Yeah. So, yeah, that's basically the reason why I'm talking to you right now.

I, I, I. When this stuff started coming up and you started getting contacted, has it been some sort of has it been along the lines of harassment on your end? I know that you are currently in a relationship with somebody and probably a lot of the reason why you just like, look, let Taisha do her thing, which are the best and whatever. I've you know, she's moved on. I've moved on, but. What kind of reaction have you been getting social media wise from this?

I mean, I wouldn't say that anybody's like came up to me and said, oh, you're the guy who cheated on Tasha Adams, you know, I say it's not that's not what's been happening. But it's it's constant. Like, you know, I own a business in Newport Beach and and, you know, even some of my clients will Google my name or Google my company and figure out who I am. The first thing you Google when you Google Josh Burrell, first thing that pops up is Tatia, you know?

So it's it's it's been a slight more to my reputation because honestly, I don't think. I don't think there needs to be a negative connotation about our relationship in the past. I mean, I know that if I said yes, but I think we're both in a position now that's a hell of a lot better than we were when we were together. And a lot of that is probably just because we we had to go through that period of our lives and we had to learn those lessons in order to to get to the position that we're at now.

And I think we're both we're both in a place that is that we want to be. So I honestly think that we should just let each other live our lives separate. And move on 100 percent and completely and not and not involve each other. So I understand that. It may be a little bit of a sob story for her to come out and say, you know, my ex cheated on me and there were some other things, but it really didn't have anything to do with me that the reason why we got divorced and and I understand that the audience may look at that and feel bad for her and and therefore they may end up liking her more.

I don't know. But in my opinion, I mean, it's there's two sides to every story. And and the and the point that I was at when I made that mistake and I came clean about that mistake, too, was I was not happy with our relationship. I wasn't I wasn't in a place where I was actually happy, you know, and what I what I look for in a relationship as a partner. And I didn't feel like I had a partner.

I also looked for somebody that I want to raise kids with. And honestly, I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to raise kids with her. And then, you know, the third thing is I feel like there's I feel like there's one thing that defines I mean, not one thing, but, you know, a major thing that defines a relationship from a friendship and that is intimacy. And that was something that was seriously lacking in our relationship.

So. I mean, those three factors are kind of what brought me to the conclusion that, you know, we're still young, we still got a lot of life to live, like, why don't we just go our separate ways? And. And find our own happiness apart. And and I think that was a healthy decision, and if she really looks at it, I think she would realize that that was a healthy decision for both of us at the time.

So, you know, I don't regret. I don't regret. The divorce, I don't regret it at all. I think it was I think it was an experience that. Made me a better person in the long run. And, you know, now I'm in a relationship, I've been in a relationship for almost a year and I have an amazing girlfriend that has showed me what it's like to be in a healthy relationship. And, you know, I feel blessed to be put.

In the situation where I can I can reflect on my past and I can no, you know, it brought a lot of wisdom to my life just going through that experience with patients. And I honestly do wish for the best, but it's just the. It's just I just don't want to be dragged into the whole mess. You know, I don't want anything to do with it. Yeah. And and now it's almost too late because it's been said numerous times on the season that there was infidelity and in in your marriage.

And, you know, I'll I'll just say this as a viewer and not even knowing about that. She mentioned it on Kolten season. I had kind of forgotten about it. But then she's brought it up at least two times this season. As a viewer, when I'm watching that and I'm hearing her tell two, three different guys that there was infidelity in my marriage immediately, I think and I don't think I'm the only one. I'm guessing there are more out there that think this was a multiple time thing.

My husband was carrying on an affair. I found out about it. Our marriage ended.

You're saying it is. It's not absolute. Yeah, it absolutely does sound like that. Yeah.

Which which is definitely, you know, that's that's had a negative effect on my life a little bit to the truth of the matter is, as you know, we were together for a long time, I think before I cheated, which was one time it was it was a single occurrence. And I was I had consistently expressed to her, you know, my unhappiness with our marriage. And I you know, before before I made that mistake, I was the one who was like, let's go to therapy.

Like, let's do this. Let's let's figure out a way to make our relationship better, you know, because right now I am not happy. And I kind of felt like she was just coasting and and she wasn't really willing to make a change for the better. So I kind of I put myself in a position where I was like, OK, well, you know, and it may have been a little bit out of spite, but she went out of town.

I went out with some buddies. I met someone did this thing and and, you know, she came back from her trip. I came clean about it not immediately, but, you know, a few hours into her coming home, I. I ended up coming clean about it and. And and I felt terrible, and it was an immense amount of guilt on my shoulders for doing what I did, but it also made me realize that I was wasting my time, you know, and and then she eventually, because I did what I did, she wanted to put forth an effort and she did put forth an effort.

We went to therapy. But, you know, after a few months of therapy, I had kind of come to the conclusion that my heart was not in it anymore and I didn't want to be married to her. So we went our separate ways. And and I think that was a I think it was a good decision.

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I think for people who don't know the history of to. Can you just. Kind of give us a brief timeline of how when did you meet Teisha? How long were you dating before you guys got married? And then and then how long your marriage was and whatnot.

So so I met her sophomore year in college, so I was like 19, 20, and we dated we were in a long distance relationship for a long time. I moved up to Mammoth. I was working for my dad actually dropped out of college. My dad kind of got sick. So I moved up to Mammoth and I started working in Mammoth and I worked with him. And we we had to kind of build our company out from nothing. So we were working really hard and I was in a long distance relationship with her.

So I was driving down south. She was still in college and then she graduated and she moved up to Mammoth. And we lived together for a while. And then we got married and, you know, we lived in Mammoth for one year all together. I think we were together for a little over seven years. So we lived in Mammoth for one year. And then we moved from Mammoth to Dana Point.

We lived in Dana Point for about a year and then everything kind of fell apart.

So, OK, so after so after she graduated college, she moved up to Mammoth to live with you. But you guys weren't married yet. How long were you roughly in Mammoth before you ended up getting married? See, I proposed to her and then I think we were together for probably about a year while we were planning the wedding, it was probably a little bit more than that. Actually, it's probably like a year and a half. OK, and then and then we lived together up in Mammoth for about a year after we got married or six months after we got married or something.

I can't I can't fully remember the timeline, to be honest with you.

But it was, you know, all together, it was seven years. We were married for legally married for a year and a half.

But we were actually married for two years because we didn't end up getting our marriage license until six months after our wedding.

So, yeah. Gotcha.

And was the move from Mammoth down to Orange County did.

I don't know. Did that play a role in any sort of. I mean, you were from Mammoth's, she was an Orange County girl, did that play a role in anything? And why did you have to move?

I don't I don't really think so. I mean, we moved because she hated me. I mean, she couldn't find a job in Mammoth that she actually liked, so.

I was like, well, I think I can start a business in Newport Beach, so we moved down a datapoint area and gave it a shot and I was working like crazy. You know, I was working like 12 hour days, five days a week. And she wasn't really I mean, that goes hand in hand with like the issue of I didn't feel like I really had a partner is I was working very hard and I didn't really I didn't really feel that reciprocated on her end in any way.

Like, I, I just I didn't feel like she was meeting me in the middle at all. So that was one of my deciding factors. And, you know, it's just now looking back on it, I just realized it's just kind of who she is.

So, I mean, it's not it's not a big deal, but.

But yeah, I mean, I just didn't feel like I really had a partner, and so I don't think the move had anything to do with us. Get a divorce or anything, I just think that it was. It was just the combination of the two of us trying to work together and build something, I just didn't feel like she was meet me halfway and it was pretty disappointing. When you heard that she was going on Kolten season and she was about to venture into this reality TV world and I don't know at what point you found out, I don't know if you guys were in touch still or whatever.

But when you heard she was going on Kolten season, did you ever speak to her? Did you ever be like, hey, why are you doing this or whatever is it it's too close to our divorce being finalized? Is there any. What was your thought process when you found out about it? Did you talk to her?

And, you know, what was the what came out of that?

I think I definitely laughed when I heard about it. It was it did not bother me in any way.

I was like, well, good for her. You know, she's just going on this show. I mean, she it just it seemed like something that was right up your alley. So, you know, I was I was not opposed to it in any way. And I mean, we did we would talk about things like we I honestly think we ended our our divorce on a pretty cordial note. It sounds like it you know, it was it was cordial, but.

And along with that, I figured, you know, we had a mutual respect, that we wanted the best for each other after the divorce. Now her going out and saying that I cheated on her and that was the reason for our divorce on national TV, I felt like kind of, you know, crossed the line on that a little bit because I feel like she was using that as her sob story, you know, to to make her look better, you know, and it was it was hurtful to me because, you know, it wasn't just me that heard about that.

It was it was my parents had heard about that. It was my parents church that I heard about that it was it was, you know, my girlfriend that heard about that. It was my girlfriend's family that heard about that. I do a lot of explaining after that was said. You know, it's not. Yeah, it's not something I really even want to talk about. You know, I just it was a it was something in my life that happened.

Yes. But it was we're humans, you know, she made just as many mistakes, maybe even more mistakes than I did over the course of our relationship.

And it would be refreshing for her to actually own up to that a little bit and just and just, you know, and I think her viewers would probably respect that a little bit as well. Somebody who's open and honest and transparent, you know, as opposed to somebody who just wants to kind of enhance the truth here and there to pad her image, you know.

So when you heard about her doing The Bachelorette, obviously, Kolten, season comes and goes and then she went down to paradise. Did that. I'm sure you heard all about that down there. And then, you know, you hear probably the some early rumblings that she was going to be the Bachelorette again. What were your thoughts? Did she give you a heads up on anything or.

No, no, she didn't. I mean, she did not tell me that she was signing up for the show or anything. But honestly, my my thoughts were I did not care. I was like, good for her. She's doing it. I was happy until she kind of.

Threw me in the gutter by saying what she did about me, I was happy for her. I mean, and I think she kind of went just as far as she's out right now without saying that, you know, it's not like something that really needs to be said. I mean, what do you know these people for like two or three weeks, a month, whatever? You don't really have to get into the most intimate, personal things about your life in that short period of time when you're just trying to get to know somebody.

I mean, yes, I get it. ABC likes drama and they're probably trying to enhance the dramatic experience for the viewer. But it's kind of like at the expense of somebody who doesn't even want to be involved, you know?

Yeah. I'm curious now that I'm talking to you about it, since she knew this was coming and since she knew after she filmed the show that she brought up her marriage to some of the guys, how did she contact you since filming has ended to be give you a heads up before this all hit.

No, no, she didn't. Absolutely not. The only thing she we have talked about is we own the Airstream together and apparently and with all the stuff that happens in the divorce, I forgot to take her name off of it, the loan. Then she thought she contacted me with the lawyer and she was like, you don't get my name off that. I'm going to, you know, file a lawsuit against you. I was like, OK, fine, I'll just pay the stupid thing off.

So I paid it off. And then in return, I asked for my great grandmother's diamond and she finally coughed that up after two years of being divorced. So, you know, no, no, she didn't give me any warning about her, you know, throwing me under the bus or anything like that.

And how about since it is er. Did she ever say.

Has she acknowledged it ever since she texted, she texted me an apology text after and I don't know how this happened, but my my name appeared in some like a subtitle or something like that for us.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she she texted me an apology which looked like it was written by a lawyer, not by her.

But I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't I don't know why my name would end up on subtitles. I don't know if that was because of, you know, like a local network that put that on there or if it was ABC that did it.

I really, honestly don't know. But I do think it's kind of messed up that my name ended up on TV without me signing anything or giving any consent.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The tick tock scandal, the tick tock scandal from a couple of weeks ago, the your name shows up in the closed caption in an effort and then immediately people start to think that you show up on the season. Tatia immediately took to an Instagram story to say, you know, he's not part of this. Chris Harrison has said that was a mistake on the local affiliates part. Her ex-husband has nothing to do with this. We don't know how that happened.

And you're here to say as well, you have no part of the season. You don't show up, you don't talk to her. That's not your voice. Nothing. Absolutely.

Yeah. I don't know whose voice that is. I did see it. I was like I was kind of blown away.

I was like, I got to be kidding me. It to me, it looked like they were really grasping at straws to create some drama or something like that. But it was it was kind of ridiculous.

So when she said when she texted you and said. What, like I'm sorry your name showed up or what was right next to you? Well, it's kind of a long text, but we'll see here one thing that actually did stand out to me in the text message, which was kind of funny. I'll read it to you. Basically, it was just, you know, just Carl to talk about a stupid incident that popped up on a media promo.

I just found out because. About it, and I'm livid because there is no reason for you to ever be brought up in any of this. I've never once said your name, and I've always made it known that none of this has anything to do with you and have always protected any personal information. Well, yeah, she I mean, she's never said my name, but I mean, she's just said my ex. And it's very easy to figure out who I am.

You gotta do is type in Google Justicia, Adams ex husband and pop right up. So yeah, I'm sorry if this is this is this has caused outlets to reach out. We are dealing with it on our end. Warner Brothers has already sent out a request to outlets. If it gets worse, let me know and I will step up once again to tell everyone to respect your privacy again, regardless of everything. I want you to be happy and your privacy to be respected.

I don't want me finding my happiness to affect yours, which is like I mean, that's kind of a ridiculous thing to say, I think.

I mean, you're right. I mean, if she really is happy, then that's great, you know, and and if she really is happy, she shouldn't involve me in this show in any way. She should just leave. Me out of the whole entire thing, you know, and and dragging me in by saying that the reason for her past relationships failure was infidelity and other things that basically didn't have to do with her is it's a. It's a misrepresentation of her character.

You know, it's like she needs to be honest with people. I mean, she's a human, just like everybody else. Every human on this planet makes mistakes. And I think in order for her to be in a healthy relationship someday, which in my opinion is probably the ultimate goal of going on The Bachelor, either it's either that or get Instagram followers.

I'm not sure. But, you know, she needs to be honest with herself and she needs to be honest with everybody else. So, you know, I mean, I've seen a lot of things that, in my opinion, they're just they're just they're slightly off from the truth to pad her, you know, to to make her look better in the public eye, which.

You know, it's OK to make mistakes, and I think people will respect you a little bit more if you own up to your mistakes, you know.

So, yeah, I'm sure. I mean, she is the first divorced bachelorette we've ever had. So I expected her to at some point talk about her marriage. But like you said on your end, it just goes a little bit deeper than there was infidelity in my marriage, which, like I said, I think most people took that as, oh, wow, her ex-husband was cheating on her carry on an affair and it was multiple times or whatever.

And and you're here to say that it's not. And then she brought up something last week that, you know, I didn't really understand the point of her bringing it up because it was you know, you guys have been divorced since twenty. What? Eighteen. Seventeen. What did you guys.

You know, I couldn't actually tell you the exact age because of course.

Yeah, I think it's because there was late 2017, late 2017.

So I just you know, I come across a story where on her podcast last week she's talking about intimacy and marriage. And I didn't really understand why she felt the need to share that she saved herself for marriage. But in her future relationship, she doesn't plan on doing that because sex is a big part. I mean, I don't I don't really understand it. Do you know why she said that?

I mean, honestly, I'm really not going to act like I don't feel. I don't feel like I need to comment on that necessarily. That's fine, but I mean, I do want to like I just think that goes back to the honesty factor in and her parting the truth to make her, you know, look, there's a lot more context to that. And I feel like she could let our viewers know what the context actually is and why she came to that conclusion.

You know, and and I think it's smart the way she's thinking now. I mean, you know, I like the change in perspective and there's probably a reason behind that. She thinks that way. So now maybe she could give a little bit more information on as to why she came to that conclusion.

So, yeah, I mean, that's that's basically what I'm not going to I'm not really going to comment.

And Josh, I'm sorry if you actually thought that's what I was after. I don't care the answer to the question of what she said and whether it's yes or no. That's not what I was after. If it came across that way, I apologize. It was more along the lines of that was over four years ago. I don't even know why she even decided to throw that out there in a podcast. That's what my question was about. So I apologize if there's anything.

But it was more about why even throw that out there.

Honestly, I don't understand that either. I don't understand why she would have said that. I mean, it's I that goes back to the fact that I think she's, you know, trying to just tied her image a little bit. And, you know, she's a good she comes off anyways and especially on the show as good Christian girl, you know.

And and I don't know. I have no idea why she's she's not that doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah. I mean, I like I said, it is what it is. It's out there. You know, obviously, I figured I'd bring it up to you and see what you what you thought of what she said, not necessarily the details of it, but just in jest. Why you think maybe she would even bring that up. But it's water under the bridge now. It's out there. We've discussed it and you move on. You know, I appreciate you coming forward today.

Like you said, you contacted me a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised because I won. I didn't know if you would. You know, you've been out there. You're a name I've known about since Coltons season. You know, two years I've known your name. I know you were tases ex-husband, but, you know, I never reached out to you. I never felt the need to. I felt if you were going to say stuff, you were going to say it, you know, on your Instagram or whatever, or do an interview with an outlet that I knew was contacted.

You would contact you at some point. And, you know, I kind of do I do appreciate the fact that you did not not that it changes your story, but you could have easily gotten paid to tell this story to a TMZ, without a doubt. Absolutely.

And, you know, it was actually my it was my girlfriend's idea to contact you. And then I read some of your stuff and you just kind of seem like you're a no bullshit kind of guy. And and I like that.

So and basically, I just wanted to I wanted to come out and just kind of clear my name a little bit and let people know that I'm not all that bad of a person, you know, and and and it's it's it's refreshing to talk to somebody who isn't just trying to, you know, create more drama out of a situation.

So I just I feel like you're more down to earth. You're more just about talking about the truth. And like I said, it was 100 percent my girlfriend's decision. And then, you know, I contacted you and I enjoyed the conversation that we had. And and you were like, well, let's do the podcast. And I was like, sure, why not? You know, I and my goal basically from doing this isn't I'm not trying to put it down, you know, and I do wish the best for her.

I just I just want to be kind of, you know, the whole goal with the divorce, in my opinion, especially one where you don't have kids involved or anything like that. It's it's to close the chapter, close the chapter and open up a new one.

You know, it's like I'm done with that stage in my life. I don't need to go back to it. I learned a lot from it. And then, you know, when I'm in a quiet place with my girlfriend, if I want to tell her something that has to do with my past relationship, and that's fine. But she's she's on a public platform where she has millions of people watching everything that she says. And when she's when she's saying things, whether or not she's using my name or not, it can have a negative effect on my life and I can have a negative effect on my parents and it can have a negative effect on my girlfriend and her family.

And I just don't think it's not it's it's not a good thing for her to use her. Age has something to kind of twist and manipulate the truth in a way that makes her look good and makes everybody else in her past look bad, you know, so I just that's the only reason. The only reason why I'm talking to you is because I just want to kind of bring a little bit, you know, light to the situation that there are two sides to every story.

You know, and I understand the position that you're in because you're the ex-husband. The narrative has been controlled by her since the beginning, because you haven't done anything, you've never said a word, we've never heard anything from you going back two years, obviously, to Kolten season. You've never tweeted about anything that I know about that I've seen. You've never done an interview. And now you know, when your ex-wife is the focal point of a very popular show and she's the lead and she's allowed to say whatever she wants, which is what she believes happened in your marriage, that's fine.

But I also think it's fine that you're allowed to say, hey, here's my side, too.

Like, you've only gotten you've only been allowed to get hers.

And absolutely. And I'm not trying to get anything from this. I'm not like trying to I'm not trying to get my Instagram followers. And that's trying to get I'm not trying to get money. I've clearly not trying to get money because like you said, I didn't contact TMZ.

May I ask you, a few tabloids call me and they offer to give me stuff in order for my opinion on the situation. Honestly, I just I don't want to do it out of that, you know, because that's a bad basis to have to tell the truth off of is, you know, indirectly influenced by money. You know, I make good money. I have a good business. I I'm going to keep doing my thing. And and I like my privacy.

I really honestly, I love my privacy. And I want to just continue to live my life and build my own little environment where I can live my life with my girlfriend and with my parents and with my family and friends in private. And and I want her to respect that a little bit. And I get that she hasn't really as she's never used my name or anything like that. But quit using one thing that happened in our relationship as a sob story to make people feel bad for you.

And therefore, I mean, it's kind of hypocritical in a way, because, I mean, if you're calling me a cheater, yet you're dating twenty five different guys at the same time or whatever. So it's it's I don't know. It's been a tough situation for me and I'm kind of over it at this point. So that's the only reason why I'm talking to you, Steve, is because I am one hundred percent over it and I want to be left out of the situation and, you know, so ABC and all those and like and the tabloids and stuff like I'm not going to show up on The Bachelor.

I have no desire to be on that show. Yeah. Like, it's not something that I want in my life. It's added drama that, you know, I don't want to live my life like that. I honestly don't.

So, yeah, it's it's pretty clear that, you know this. You didn't do this so you could get your name out there and get more followers or whatever. You're not a social media guy at all. Very much. It's clear as day. So I don't think you have to worry about convincing people of that. And, you know, like I said, I appreciate you coming to me as opposed to a tabloid because even saying the same thing to a tabloid, just saying it to a TMZ and or even doing an exclusive with somebody where money could be exchanged not doesn't hold a lot of weight.

Yeah. I mean, even though your story would have been the same, it just for whatever reason, I mean, I've I've always kind of said this when it comes to tabloids, just because someone gets paid to tell a story doesn't mean it's not true. It just means they got, you know, some incentive to do it. I don't offer incentives on my podcast. And it just, you know, I think it definitely for those that think that way that, oh, my God, they got paid to tell the story, they sold out.

I think it kind of helps your credibility, the fact that you didn't get paid to do this.

And you contacted me privately and said, hey, this is how I'm feeling, because right when you contacted me, it wasn't like Steve put me on your podcast. You know, you were like, you know, let me think about this. But I just want to let you know, Steve, how I feel. And then you and I just kind of went back and forth and decided, you know what, after a couple of weeks, you were like, you know, this is this is enough.

You know, I feel like I should at least say something, but yeah, it wasn't like you clamoring put me off. Put me on. Was anything like that. Yeah, absolutely.

I appreciate that. Josh, I appreciate you sharing your story. I know that people that just have Tatia up on a pedestal or think she can do no wrong clearly are out of what you said in this podcast, even though it was your truth and what you lived and you knew the girl. And we're in a relationship, whether for seven years and married to or four to.

You know, you got to understand that people are just going to dismiss what you said as sour grapes or get over it. Let Taisha live her life, which is kind of exactly what you were trying to get across in this podcast. But I do appreciate you coming on and putting yourself out there and just telling your side of the story and just let people decide on their own. Hey, this is what I lived. You've heard what you said. Here's what I here's what I've said.

And let people just go from there. So I appreciate you coming on, Josh. Man, that was a lot of fun. Probably not easy for you, but I'm glad you did it. And I appreciate you coming on and good luck with everything in the future.

Thank you, Steve. I really appreciate you having me on. Oh, have a good one. And, you know, I honestly, like I said, I do I wish the best for her. And, you know, she can you know, it's it's good. We're both in a position right now where we can truly find our own happiness. And and I'm so excited about my future. I just don't want to have to keep reliving my past, you know, so it's it's it's going to be hopefully that that message gets portrayed in this more than anything.

I'm not trying to I'm not trying to put her down. I'm not trying to say anything negative about her. I do wish her the best. I just I just want to live my life. And my life is not connected with her in any way, shape or form. There is zero connection there. You know, it's done. And I that that like that chapter is closed. I am done. I am I am on to something totally different.

And we are two separate entities. And I think that I don't think that we need to involve each other in each other's lives in any way, shape or form anymore. So. That's it. I hear you. Josh, thank you very much for coming on. I appreciate it. You got us here by. So thank you to Josh for that, I really appreciate it. Like I said. This is a guy that has not spoken for two years and has never said a word about their relationship, so I think it's a little bit unfair to maybe jump on him for speaking on their marriage when that's all he has done all season.

And she's made it known, and if someone can find me a quote this season where Tatia talked positively about her marriage to Josh, send it to me because I I mean, you could tell in his voice that you can hear and what he said it seemingly he's just kind of fed up with how he's been portrayed. And I don't blame the guy for coming forward. And if somebody immediately dismisses him or as a Taser fan, you're just like, oh.

I can't believe he did that well, then you have to say the same thing for. I can't believe she talked about her marriage on television. Why why even bring that up, you know? Why not tell them off camera, why not tell them at the end of the season you can talk about the fact you had a divorce, but she specifically speaking on something which, like I said, I reiterated it a couple of times in that interview.

You know, it's just when someone says, my marriage ended because of infidelity, I don't think anybody watching that show thought, oh, wow, he only cheated once. I'm sure most people thought she was being cheated on numerous times he was carrying on an affair, something along those lines, so I could see where someone would be upset and just put yourself.

I mean, I guess I just ask anybody, put yourself in his shoes. If the same exact thing were happening to you and your ex was on TV talking about your relationship, I think you'd want to say something somewhere. And he could have easily gotten paid to do this interview by another outlet, I don't pay for interviews. He knows that. But you heard him. He said his girlfriend's a fan of the show and thought I'd be fair and wanted to come on with me.

And I appreciate that. So. That's all I wanted to do was give him his say and you know, you know, you can when I had Carly Hamadan, the girl who dated Yossef.

A few weeks ago, when I had her on maybe like a month ago or whatever it was, you know, that was a woman who had a relationship online with Yoseph and came on and basically transcribed the whole weekend, the one weekend she had spent with him, and she had receipts to prove it. So this was a woman that spent two, three days with Yoseph and look at all the information that she had.

And because people immediately dislike Yoseph, I'm guessing most people were like, wow. Makes sense, like I buy Carly's story, just because you like Taisha doesn't mean that Josh should be discredited. He was married to her for two years. There's only really one other person. There's only two people in this world that can really speak on the taste of Josh marriage and that station. Josh, we've heard what said here's what Josh has said. So that's really all I want to do is just give them their say.

So, you know, when she said it again on Monday night that my marriage ended because of infidelity.

That's. You just heard the interview, do you think their marriage ended because of infidelity, based on what you just heard? It doesn't sound like it. And. The guy. Owned up to what he did. Owned up to what he, you know, literally told her hours after she returned from a weekend that he had cheated on her. And then she then he said she paid more attention in their marriage and they went to counseling and it just didn't work out, which happens happens to a lot of people.

So. I just. Like I said at the beginning, you put yourself in these people's shoes. And if the same thing was happening to you and your ex had a platform like Tatia does. And was saying things about your relationship, I think you'd want to say something. And come forward and and talk about it from your side. So you can still hate Josh and love Tatia and. I just think it's fair that he got his that he got his say, and I appreciate him coming on and I appreciate him coming to me more so than anything that he decided to come to me to do the interview.

So thanks again, Josh. I appreciate it.

Good luck with everything in the future. And hopefully this just kind of dies down once the season ends. Hopefully there's just kind of dies down.

So let's get to the second part of the interview, and that's Dominic Scarless, who is the ex-girlfriend of Memphis Garratt. Who last week went public, who is now dating Christmas Abbott from.

Big Brother, All Stars and Dominic has a story to share about her relationship with Memphis, and I think, you know, we got the answer as to why Josh came forward pretty much he said, look, there was more to our divorce than what she's claiming it to be. Memphis and Christmas. Kind of took to social media last week. And Christmas seemed to take some pot shots at Dominique, basically saying that the relationship wasn't serious, wasn't all that serious, wasn't really real.

I want you to listen to Dominique for the next 30 minutes and then you tell me if you think her and Memphis' were just a fling, just a hookup, or if they were in a serious relationship. So here we go, part two of podcast number 212 with Dominique Scarless. OK, let's bring her on, she is the ex-girlfriend of Big Brother, all star contestant Memphis' Garrett. Her name is Dominique Scarless. Dominique, thank you for joining me.

You're welcome. Hello. Nice to meet you. I'm sorry we have to meet under these conditions, but it's been an interesting week, to say the least.

So I want to just start out that the reason, obviously, we're having you on is because last week Memphis' went public with Christmas. Abbott, who was also on All Stars with him saying they were they were in a relationship. And. There was rumors, scuttlebutt going on because they seemed to be a little bit close and there might have been a kiss or might not of during the season during Big Brother All Stars this summer, but. For those that don't know, he was in a relationship with you before he left, and we'll get to the kiss in a second, because that was even mentioned by you at the time it happened.

But in hearing this news last week of Memphis and Chris being in a relationship, were you surprised by this?

You know, I wasn't completely surprised by the relationship, actually. I left Fort Lauderdale. I want to say about four weeks ago, about a week after he got out of the show and, you know, when he left, we kind of like just said we were going to go our separate ways and take some time. And then he reached out to me last week and said, hey, Christmas was in town. And, you know, some pictures might surface.

And we went out, we were drinking and people saw us in bars. And I just wanted to give you a heads up and I gave them I don't really give a shit response.

And then two days later, all of a sudden, I'm sitting at home at night and start getting screenshots from everybody from inUS and US Weekly and whatever other websites that they did interviews on that weekend that she supposedly was out there just hanging out. So. Him saying, oh, by the way, you might see pictures of me and Christmas get leaked, ended up being we arranged a photo shoot and we announced that we were dating.

But to you, he never said it. So, you know, it was kind of a shock to me because it more so sounded like we were at a bar drinking and some fans saw us and took some photos, which I already knew about because I've seen I saw them on Instagram, but never did he say, you know, hey, the weekend she got out here, we set up a photo shoot, did a bunch of interviews with US Weekly, any news?

And all of that will be coming out this weekend. So we got to go we have to backtrack a little bit. In terms of your relationships, so people have an idea here, kind of exactly what this was you guys met in well, you guys met six years ago in Las Vegas at the hotel, correct?

Yes, we were. We both worked there at the time.

And you guys were never a couple in those six years. You were just friends? Never a couple.

We remain friends. We talked regularly. He was in Chicago with his ex girlfriend the year before. And then right around February, he sent me a message and was like, hey, I want to take you to dinner. And I was like, Aren't you dating somebody? And he's like, no, I broke up and I was kind of like, I don't think I'm your type. And he's like, Well, I'm not really your type either, but it seems like your type hasn't been working out for you and mine has been working out for me.

So maybe we should try something new. And we started talking a little bit more regularly. And then right around quarantinable, we started dating. So. It started around Gornstein, you're in Chicago, he's in Fort Lauderdale. You told me that you basically spent all of quarantine down in Fort Lauderdale with him and his son, River.

Yes. So this wasn't like I mean, it was long distance in that you didn't live in the same city, but during quarantine, you did. You were with him at all times during quarantine.

Yeah, I went back to Chicago a few times to see my family and my parents. My grandmother's sick. But other than that, I spent a majority of my time in Florida. My best friends were all down there, too. So we kind of just had like a Chicago quarantine in Miami.

So when he came to you, I don't know at what point, maybe it May, June ish and said Big Brother's looking to have me back on again. I'm thinking to do an all star season. What was your reaction? I was actually there when he got the call from production, so he said, hey, you know, oh, my God, big brother just reached out to me and what do you think I should do? And blah, blah, blah.

And he right away a call to Ashley, his ex-wife, because obviously she'd be taking care of her for three months if he did get on the show. And he kind of made it sound to me Lily was supposed to be an alternate. Like, I don't think he actually thought he was going to get on the show. And I'm one of the other players ended up getting covid, and that's the only reason he got on. So when we originally discussed it, he just kept saying, hey, I'll be home in two weeks, like this will be no big deal and to go for two weeks, make a little bit of money and then come back.

But my response was like, hey, if you're going to do it, do it now. Like we're all quarantined. The restaurant industry slow right now. Most of the country shut down. Like, if you're ever going to do this again in your life, now's the time.

So when he left to do all stars. Where did you go and what did you do? Did you stay down in Fort Lauderdale? I stayed down in Fort Lauderdale for a little bit. I agreed to help him run his folk restaurant. So I was working on that a lot. And then from there, I kind of went back and forth to Chicago the entire time that he was gone. But I mean, before he left, he asked me to move and he was like, by the time I get back, like if I end up doing this in the long run, you know, I hope that you're moved in here when I get when I get back.

And that kind of was the plan. Like when he left, it was like, you know, my house is your house and I'd like you to spend most of your time here. I was going to take a job in Chicago and he was like, you know, I really don't feel comfortable that you're taking this job in Chicago. And that's what I agreed to help out with the restaurant. I mean, he wasn't paying me or anything. I was just doing it is what any normal girlfriend would do.

But you were living at his place in Fort Lauderdale while he was on the show? Yes. So he goes on the show. You have no contact with him for three months. But as we saw as a viewing audience, whether it was in the voting room or as people have said on the live feeds, you were referenced quite a bit this season.

I watched all star season every episode he said he said your name quite a bit. I mean, it was clear that this was his girlfriend while he was on the show, unless I was somewhere.

And it was clear in a lot of the lines readers would see it. You know, my birthday he wrote Happy Birthday, Dominic on cable. He had someone send me a letter and flowers. I mean, Sean, who helps production, reached out to me weekly. And it was kind of I signed up for it and I was in it for the long run with him while he was there. And so when he came out and, you know, I realized he was a little bit of a different person.

It was kind of a shock to me just watching the season, how often he was shouting me out and saying this me. And they're allowed to write tweets and their PR people get these tweets weekly. And he was writing like in the tweets, says, PR girl. I'm like, please tell Dominique I think about her all day, every day. And I miss her so much and I can't wait to come home and I can't wait for our future.

So obviously, I didn't see any of this coming while he was gone.

And there was an incident that happened that we referenced earlier and that at some point in the season, it was over halfway through. Live feeders caught Memphis and Christmas getting somewhat close. Some people said there was a kiss. Some people said there wasn't, but. The people that did were convinced it was a case you actually came out and said what? I just came out and said, you know, how I wrote hash tag, fake news were good, there wasn't a kiss there, and that was mostly because Sean called me again and production was like, they did not kiss.

Nothing is going on. He's crazy about you. And so I felt comfortable enough to make that statement. And now fast forward two months later and they're kind of making a joke of Christmas's writing hash tag, not fake news. Memphis's writing, keep it news, keep it moving on his photos. And I'm kind of like, you know, I posted that to to find you and your character that you're not a cheater. So for you to take that that quote and put it in your photos is like a joke is super disrespectful.

And I actually got a text message from them today that said, you know, I have so much respect for you and I hope we could be friends in the future. And I looked at it and I didn't even respond because I'm like, you've had zero respect for me in the last two weeks. Like, you are not thinking about anything that you put me through all the heat that you had over the last three months, whether it was the David incident or the Æon incident.

I was at home dealing with that while he was in this house and the way he's been acting the last two weeks, like I said, with these hashtags and these photos and doing these interviews, day one, I'm like, that shows zero respect that you have towards me.

Well, let's talk about that, because this is where I think people might get confused. So he comes back off the show in his first weekend home was right around the end of October, right. Halloween weekend and Halloween weekend. He comes home, you spend, you're there. You guys spend Halloween weekend together. And that's where. We'll explain, because I guess the timeline once he got home, exactly what happened. He got home, he was great the first couple of days, he said, I'm going to stay off of social media.

I'm not like going to get into the I'm going to be in the moment. I'm going to hang out with you. I'm hanging out with my son. And it was great. He did that for three days. And then it was kind of the minute that he got back on social media. I saw, like, everything in him change. He was upset about the negative comments and he was upset. He didn't get more followers. And he started talking to lawyers and PR people and thinking about marketing and how you could spend, you know, being on the show and other projects, which I one hundred percent agree like that.

That was a big point of him going on the show, is that we were planning on opening a restaurant together and he was planning on working on a few other projects. And he thought, like the following that you would get from this would work in his favor for future projects, which is funny because the t shirt that actually wore in the photo shoot that he did with Christmas at the beach, it was the almost t shirt was the restaurant that I were working on for months before he left for the show.

And so I don't know if he's planning on taking lead by a lot of out of the book for investors and switching it with I don't know what's going to happen, but, you know, that kind of felt like a slap in the face as well.

Well, obviously, you mentioned when he got off the show, there was a lot of negative reaction because on the show he did get some heat and he wouldn't know about any of this because you are obviously closed off from the rest of the world when you're out there, you don't have your phone. You have no idea what the outside world thinks of you. But he did have a couple of incidents in there where he was accused of calling David the N-word.

He had some very harsh reactions to Ian. People say he was mocking Ian's autism and that. Started to fall back on you exactly, and I know deep down in my heart, I know him very well. Like I said, we've been friends for six years. He would never use the N word. And I had no problem defending him with any of that. And I honestly in my heart believe that he did not know that M was on the spectrum, because if you go back, you can hear him saying, you know, multiple times that it was a nervous tick.

He's like you, the tick is bothering me and Liselotte, so I had no problem defending him. But all that with all of those situations. But at the end of the day, I was the one that was dealing with it. I woke up to the TMZ article about David and had two thousand new followers, because all these people, you know, I feel like a lot of the Big Brother following, like once the drama and it might be a little bit of a younger crowd than it used to.

And there's a lot of bullying. And I was getting a lot of terrible, terrible Deon's that. What kind of person am I that I can date somebody like that and I'm a racist Republican and just these crazy things and like that one, Memphis comes out of the House, you know, they're going to beat them up and like, it was just crazy and it was right in the middle of everything that was going on in the world at the moment.

And I was living in Chicago and I was like writing daily and so much violence. And I'd like to add that on top of everything else that was going on, it was a really hard, emotional time for me. Was anyone else on your end getting it? Like getting harassed. It's actually crazy, I posted one of my girlfriend, Jackie. It was her birthday, and the following day after the article came out, I was like happy, like everyone does on Instagram.

Happy birthday, Jackie. I love you so much. And people actually want to her Instagram was like your nurse at this hospital. Does the hospital know that you're a racist and you hang out racist? People like she had zero to do with the situation. I just put out a happy birthday message the following day. And so, like for my friends to get attacked for no reason at the time, it's and she's working like crazy hours and putting our life on the line for other people to get this hate from random strangers.

It was just a lot like I said, my family owns a business and. You know, my dad would go to work and customers knew that I was eight Memphis and that he was on the show and they saw the articles and the same thing. What month? Memphis's mother. She works in a school and her neighbors saw it. And people she worked with saw it and was just really hard on my family and his family as a whole. So one thing that was interesting to me, based on what you.

Showed me is, you know, people can say like, oh, so he went on the show and he got out of there and he fell for Christmas during the show and had a change of heart.

I think it goes a little bit deeper than that because. You have shown me letters that he wrote to you while he was in the jury house, so this is at the end of his run there. I mean, exactly.

Letters, letters that have quotes in there saying so excited to start our life. I've dreamt about you so much. I've dreamt about our future. And then and then my favorite since the day I put my hand on your leg at brunch, I wanted you in my life. That must have been a memorable day for you guys that he is that how it all started between you two? He put his hand on your leg at lunch. At brunch?

Yeah, we were at lunch and he seemed like he had butterflies and he was a little nervous and he just rest of his hand down on my leg. And he always said, like in that moment, like, I felt so calm, like I felt like that was the moment that I realized. You know, we were going to be together and then your birthday happened over all star filming, your birthday was in September.

He had he had written you a birthday card before he went into the Big Brother house. It was given to you by his PR person on your birthday. And another letter that says one of the lines from it, I'm so in love with you. It's tough for me to express how much. So this is a guy that was clearly this wasn't you weren't a fling. You weren't a girl. He was, you know, casually hooking up with. And I think, you know, when we spoke off air, you know, you kind of expressed to me I'm you know, kind of the whole reason we're talking here is you're just a little bit bothered by how you're being portrayed and how Christmas seems to be portraying Memphis's relationship with you.

Exactly.

And I you know, everything's been going on. When it first came out, I was like, I'm just going to sit back and. Not comment and not say anything, and of course, after getting all these messages from people and seeing the screenshots of I don't read any of the articles, I get a screenshot from somebody and I read a little part of it, but I really haven't fully gone online look things up and got into it. I just know off of what other people are telling me.

And it's like I said, it's not her place to comment on our relationship. Like if she wanted to comment on her own. That was fine. And, you know, Memphis', I feel like he downplayed it a little bit in his article from what my girlfriends told me. And that's what I'm bothered about. And I feel zero sadness. I feel no jealousy whatsoever. Actually, like the last week, I feel like I've been in the best place that I've been in a very, very long time.

The show is stressful. I feel like a few weeks. And if I wasn't as oil as I was, I, I probably would have left. Like I said, it was hard every single day. And to come out of this and just see them downplaying this and talking about me like I wasn't that important of a part of his life. It's upsetting and not in a sad way. It's like I feel he tricked me.

Like I thought he was a completely different person than what I'm seeing right now, you know, he said and one of the articles week six on the show, he knew there was something about Memphis excuse me, something about Christmas. And then he says, we both had to respectfully take care of situations we were in and needed some time. So that's what he's saying now.

But if he's saying in week six is when he fell for Christmas one, why is he sending you three letters, letters from Jerry, that clearly, if you want out there, we can put them out there. You have receipts. This isn't just a he said she said there are receipts. I've seen the letters that his his penmanship is leaves a lot to be desired.

It is kind of tough to read them writes like a twelve year old, but.

Right. It was I couldn't make out some sentences, some of which I've already recited. But yeah, I mean, he's writing these letters to you in January, so excited about getting out of the show, so excited about getting back to you, starting his life with you and then within a week of him getting back, you say things kind of just turned after Halloween, basically.

Yeah, they turned and I was a little confused. And I actually reached out to Joel Mobli, who was on The Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars. He's a friend of mine. And I was like, hey, you know, you had your phone taken away. You were separated from the world. Did you feel like I'm like I just can't understand how somebody could be completely different within a week. Like, I felt like he was a completely different person from the guy I met a week after getting home from there.

And Jo's response was just like that, not the same way. We were like, some people aren't as tough and, you know, some people let it go to their head and it just is what it is. It's you can understand it if you haven't dealt with it.

Is that the sense that you're getting from Memphis is that once he realized. I don't know. Did get enough followers, wasn't well liked coming off the show that all of a sudden it was almost. I don't know, an image repair kind of deal where if I know if I date somebody from the show that people seem to like like Christmas, you know, we could be one of these. I definitely I definitely think they have a lot in common, I know Memphis was interested in opening a gym when he got out, and I know they talked about it a few times over the show.

And I have no idea what's going on with the two of them now. And I'm not I'm I'm not going to downplay their relationship. But Memphis went into the show saying I'm a business man and I look at everything as a business deal. So that's all I can say from my standpoint of how I'm looking at it. We had a nice conversation right before I left the week that he got out. And he's like, I'm just really confused. I'm scared.

And I can't express to you the feeling. And I'm like, you were just in the situation for three months and you heard all these people. And, you know, it's kind of hard to separate yourself. And I looked at him and I was like, if I'm being honest with you, like I miss my ex-boyfriend all the time because we had such a great relationship and he was my best friend. And, you know, it's hard to separate yourself from that.

And I'm like, you're in this house and you're coming home and everything's new and you're transitioning. And I totally get it. But from what happened from that conversation to two weeks later, it's completely different.

Yeah. And, you know, you say about lack of respect and you know him saying, oh, there might be some pictures that get out of me. And Christmas when it was a whole planned photo shoot and a oh, by the way, we're also doing interviews and telling everybody we're now dating. Exactly.

I know that was the first time that even though it was the first time he's seen her since filming ended, exactly like to get out of the show.

I just feel like if it was me, I'd want to spend, you know, weeks, not a weekend with somebody weeks to see if something was really there. And the last thing I would be worried about was doing interviews, saying, you know, I'm in love and, you know, we fall in love on the show and yada, yada, yada. The first week on that, you hang out in real life.

Yeah, I mean, you. Like you said, you tried to keep quiet, you did throw a shot out there, which I thought was kind of funny, I thought I'd throw it out there and it was it was in conversation with somebody. I've gotten so, so much love. Like, I could not even tell you hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of messages from people saying, like, you dodged a bullet and, you know, you're beautiful.

And everything you talk about on Instagram is always positive. And you want to be known for like what you've done in the world and these things and you're queen and listen, that I blocked one person. So compared to what he's been going through, where he's yelling on Instagram, he's blocking everybody. And there's so much hate. I've received nothing but love from people like fans. And it's been great.

Yeah. I just wanted to tell you, I thought your line was pretty funny where you were just like, look, I was basically talking about exes. I don't know who your ex was, but he was a former Stanley Cup winning hockey player. And Memphis finished fifth on a reality show.

And you were like, I don't date or whatever.

What was the conversation? You know, like everyone's like go off on the party. And I'm like, if I wanted to there's hundreds of screenshots I could have posted. I could have posted the letters, you know what I mean? Like the things that he said, I would never do that. I'm not interested in being Cuddie. I was trying to be funny and it's just my humor. And most people took it in the right way to add a little conversation with Kat because she thought I was like saying that I wanted guys like that.

I actually dated Memphis because I'm like, I want a nice, stable, normal, healthy relationship. And usually you think, you know, a 38 year old man with a child who's constantly saying, you know, how he's such a good person now and, you know, he's not who he was when he was younger. And, you know, he wants to work on brands together with me. I'm like, let's build a life together. Like, that's what I was interested in.

Yeah. And you thought you were going to have it until this? I thought I was going to have it. Honestly, that's that's what I was excited about, a very normal life. And he comes from an amazing family.

And, you know, I thought I was going to have that that Hallmark family Christmas, but I guess not. So one of the final things I wanted to ask you, um. Memphis is clearly going to either listen to this interview or it's going to be relayed to him. What do you think his response will be to this interview?

I mean, I said nothing but the truth, so we can't really be upset about it, I think. I actually think he might be surprised that I didn't go off on Twitter Instagram in the last week. It was funny because people are posting that I deleted my first list, that I deleted the pictures of him, which are on my Instagram that were never there were never any photos of him on my Instagram. And people were saying that I deleted my Twitter when the news broke, when in reality I deleted my Twitter weeks ago.

The only reason I had it was for the Big Brother stuff to with I use Twitter since like two thousand and fifteen prior to this. But I've just been honest and like I said, I could have attacked him in a million different ways and I could have posted pictures of things and I didn't.

And I want as long as I can without telling my side. But it's been over a week now and these interviews and comments and hashtags and Dig's are still out there. So I just wanted to give my side of the story and I don't think he could be upset about it. Yeah, and I think that anybody that you've read the interviews that happened last week with Memphis and Christmas, them talking about how it got started and week six and all this stuff, and they really connect or whatever, but if you do want to hear Memphis and Christmas and you and you're unaware they were on Kat's podcast earlier this week so you can listen to them and then listen to this and make your own decision on who you think is being more truthful and being more honest in this situation.

And, you know, I'm not trying to take this to spin on anything and or spin off and anything. And I'm not trying to get on a show. And I actually do not like this. The tension, even though I love the positive attention that I've gotten and like all the love lately. But, you know, I just wanted to get my side of the story out there and stop having other people come on and give their input and. Just let everyone know how I feel, and like I said, there's no jealousy, there's no pettiness, there's no hatred, anger, and it is what it is.

And I'm happy to get on with the rest of my life now.

Well, I mean, like you said, you kind of brought it up earlier, but just kind of wanted to get your sense of where you're at now. Like you're not sad about it. Do you do you regret dating him or where are you at with the whole thing right now? What's your overall take of everything?

Honestly, the last week I feel like I've laid off my shoulders. I do feel like I dodged a bullet. I have no sadness. I have zero jealousy. A ton of people have been reaching out to me for comments and interviews. And you reached out to me and everyone said that you would keep it classy and fun. And that's all I was interested in. And like I said, I never wanted anything party. I never wanted to go after him.

As you know, his character, who is is a person or anything like that one. I mean, I wanted to probably the first day, I mean, who would I mean, we all we all would. I mean, yeah, and like I said, there's a million things I could have posted. I could have attacked them. Those nude photos came out.

I got blamed for five people on where we have even brought that up.

For those that don't know, nudes of Memphis leaked on Twitter last week to make it clear you were not the one that did that.

No, those were from five years ago. I guess he posted a picture and said that he was going to take his power back. And the pictures were from five years ago. I did not like those. They were just as embarrassing to me as they were to him, I'm guessing, because it was forty eight hours of my friends calling me, sending me names and making jokes about it. So definitely not something I do and definitely not my taste, which I thought he was married five years ago.

Yeah, he was, yeah. Rivers five years old. I think he got divorced right after the river was born, but it's right around. So do you have any idea you didn't release the photos? Do you have any idea who did? I did not release the photos. He dated another girl right after getting divorced, but I cannot see her doing something like that. So I honestly have no idea who released them.

I mean, he has to have an idea because I think I would think he knows who he sent his nudes to. I mean, I think he knows who it is, but I honestly have no idea.

I thought between his ex-wife, he only had one serious girlfriend before me. But while he was gone, I. I heard that there were a few older girls between me and his ex girlfriend. So I'm not really sure what's true and what is at this point.

I know it's tough. I mean, I, I feel for you. This was a story when it broke last week, I. Like I knew that Memphis had was dating somebody when he was in there, and I remember watching the show and then it refresh my memory once all this story broke with Christmas that I was like, wait a second. I thought he was always saying stuff in the jury room and on his voting nights talking about this woman and which was you.

And, you know, I didn't really understand what happened. And then in getting with you and talking with you about it, it was like, OK, now I kind of see that this is a guy that. You know, I don't know, I can't answer for him, but knowing that he what he wrote you while he was there, what he was saying to you while he was there, what was being relayed to you while he was there and then spending time with you before he turned on his phone, after he got back and everything was fine.

It seems like a switch was flipped and he went into business mode afterwards, it's just my opinion.

Yeah, I definitely went into business mode along with the letters that he did in January. He wrote me and Jerry was definitely spending a lot of time thinking of ways to make money off of what he could spend his fanbase from the show into and other aspects. Like I said, he's definitely interested in opening a gym. And there were a few other things that I know he wanted to work on after getting out. And I wish him luck on all of that and whatever he does in the future.

So whatever this restaurant was that you guys were supposed to open together once he got out, where does that stand? Clearly nowhere, right?

Oh, clearly nowhere. Buddy wore the shirt in the photo shoot, so I'm guessing he's going to work on it without me, which is crazy because we worked on it for months before he left. But like I said, I wish him luck.

Well, Dominique, I'm sorry this happened to you. I, I thank you for for coming on. And I just wanted to get your side out there because it seems like last week they were able to basically tell their side and. With what you've told us today, seems like there's a little there's a lot that's not being told honestly on on that side and exactly. I wanted to I wanted to give you your time and I wanted to, you know, reach out to you and and allow you and thank you for coming on with me.

You could have gone on with a bunch of Big Brother podcast people or done interviews with with somebody else. But I appreciate you taking the time.

You are great. I had fun. I appreciate it. You kept it classy. Like I was hoping and very happy that we got to do this. Yeah. Thank you.

I appreciate it. Good luck with everything in the future. And we'll keep in touch. All right. Talk to you soon. Thank you. Bye. Thank you so much to Dominique for coming on and sharing that with me and then Josh before her to relevant people right now, obviously Taylor's ex-husband is kind of a big deal and the fact that Memphis and Christmas went public with their relationship last week.

And Dominique was kind of in the news because they commented on his past relationship, and if you didn't catch during the interview, you can go to Katz, Conspire Away Bitches podcast, which has Memphis and Christmas on it.

It was released last night. So you can listen to that. I can tell you this when Cat recorded with Memphis and Christmas. They had no idea that I had spoken to Dominique and when Dominique and I recorded our interview, Kate had interviewed Memphis and Christmas yet. So that's probably a good thing because you can sit and compare and contrast because neither one knew about the other interview.

So go check that out on Kat's podcast. If you want to hear what Memphis and Christmas have to say about not even just his past relationship, but they got he got a lot of heat and the Big Brother house this summer. And I know that cat asked him about it. And you can hear his answers about his.

Behaviour towards David and among other things, the relationship, social media, all that stuff. So check that out on her podcast and I hope you enjoyed Dominic.

I really appreciate her coming forward and saying that.

And again, to the people who are inevitably Taisha fans, there are clearly way more Taisha fans out there than Josh fans because nobody really knows who Josh is. But just know that you have to be objective. And the only person that's ever said anything about Tatia and Josh's interview before today was Tatia and Josh's marriage. Before today was Taisha. And. I don't think there's anything wrong with Josh being able to speak out and give his opinions on their marriage because I don't know, he was married to her for two years.

I think he would know better than any of us. So wanted to give him the time and Dominique as well. So thank you to both of them. Thank you all for listening. I appreciate it. Please read, subscribe and review an Apple podcast. It is much appreciated. We are back next week with yet another podcast. Don't know who it is yet, but I hope you enjoyed this so far. Josh Barro, Dominique Scarless, inreality. Steve, thank you all for tuning in.

And we will talk to you next week. Jim?