Why is sound so much more important than the word, which is a meaning if you take the sound, you're touching creation. If you touch a word, you're just going into the psychological structure of human beings. Do not discount the power of the sound, it has influence and everything, Muntadhar is a combination. You get the right combination, right?

It will open up a doorway into creation.

This will give you a chance ago when the mantras have no meaning. So there are two dimensions to a mantra. Mantras are not supposed to have any meanings in the tradition. There are different types of mantra's. Unfortunately, the mantra's, which are normally known, they given the meanings so that people can involve. Because there are lots of idiotic people who cannot be involved with anything that's meaningless, that is why they miss the sunrise, the sunset, the moon, the full moon, everything they miss because it's meaningless.

What is the meaning of a full moon? There's no meaning only if you're in love, it means a lot. Otherwise, what is it? Nothing is not meaningful means it is not useful. So all the idiots on the planet will do only meaningful things.

Yes. Because they have no intelligence to recognize life and the many facets of life. It is not because you have attached us to put meaning to it. It exists. It exists beyond you. It existed before you. It will exist beyond you. It is not because you give it a meaning. It has become useful or not useful. So the stupid in the world will do meaningful things. There may be intellectual, but laughs to boot, they have no less sense if you have a license, you will see it is the most meaningless things which really set you on fire, isn't it?

So. So they created two kinds of mantras, one larger set of mantras which have no meaning, just pure sound.

You will see this in our music also, the actual program happened just now, and many of our people who are looking for meanings literally bored because they are doing a lab for 40 minutes say something.

They at least assemble something.

And they're not getting the point because it's about the sound. Why so sound so much more important than the word, which is a meaning? Meanings are made up in human minds. Sound is the essence of creation. If you touch the sound, you're touching creation, if you touch a word, you're just going into the psychological structure of human beings. Psychological structure of human beings is is essentially a certain kind of madness. We can enjoy it, we can use it, but essentially it's a certain kind of illusory setup, sound is a is a fundamental aspect of creation.

If you have massive oversight sound, you have mastery over creation itself in a certain way because. Creation is just a complex amalgamation of sounds. It's the blueprint of creation, but meanings are human things. You know, the same words mean different things in different languages, even in India, you know? It's the same word means different things because it's all made up. The sound is not made up, sound is part of the creation, sound is part of the existence, sound is part of making the creation happen.

Right now, the whole creation is deliberating in a certain way. You cannot hear it. It doesn't matter, but the words and meanings are a human making. It is meaningful only as a conspiracy. When I say a conspiracy. Do you hear what the cricket is saying? What is the thing you don't know? They are talking. They're also like you.

Some of them are just making sound, just doing a lap sound, simply enjoying the sun and enjoying the creation in one sense means enjoying the sound of it. If you don't have a keenness to listen, if you don't have a keenness to pay attention, you cannot enjoy any aspect of creation. Actually, you will only enjoy psychological patterns in your head. So this is the reason why most human beings want to speak. Most of the time they want to be talking not because they have something to say, because they have to find meaning, simply either silence or sound.

Both are too overwhelming. That is why when we say spiritual process, first thing is silence.

If you are psychologically very stable, 30 day silent, 60 day silence, if you are psychologically right, then we're talking three days, three days older people go crazy.

We'll talk a half a day, silence up to noon, silence. After that, you blabber. They usually make it up. Afternoon. Those of you who talk a lot, you know, meaning is meaningless, you can simply talk a whole lot of people are experts. They can simply speak without any meaning. They have understood the importance of sound.

They can go on talking without making any meaning. Now, if you were a bird, we would pardon you if you were. This one, we would be OK, or if you're a musician, you would be OK to make meaningless sounds if you're speaking, not expected to make some meaning. Sumantra is not to be spoken. It is to be chanted. Chanting means it's a chant is of the sound, not of the meaning. Meaning is of speech.

Meaning is of the word written word and spoken word. Meaning does not belong. To attend a chant is simply a sound, a reverberation. So if you if you do not know the meaning, it's the best way to act, if you ask me, simply absolutely enthralled with the sound and sing it. But first of all, what you are hearing, is it a mantra or is it a budget or he doesn't get them? You must look at it.

If it's a mantra, mantra means a pure sound. It need not have any meanings. You can give it whatever meaning you want to start with, because without meaning you cannot be involved. But once you know how to be involved, you should not give it any meaning on Messiah does not mean you go on imagining one man sitting there on top of a mountain with something. Something happening around him.

No.

Initially, if that's the only way you can be involved, you can look at this evocative picture once you know how to be involved with the sun, you get rid of the man. He's not needed. He's a disturbance. I'm telling people it's on your mother standing there, and if she comes and calling so many times, if she comes, if you can just ignore it, because that's not the thing about mantra.

The mantra is that you involve yourself in the sound because you yourself, your physical thing is a certain pattern of sound. Right now, you're trying to make yourself into a different pattern of sound so that this sound becomes an access point to the larger sound which you call as the cosmos. A larger arrangement of sounds is cosmic in nature. Now you use a certain key towns in a particular arrangement, you know, in the safe. The locks are called a combination lock.

So you have to just get it right for it to open, so mantra is a combination. You get the right combination, right? It will open up a doorway into creation. It is not the meaning, whatever meaning you give it, however high or low you think the meaning is. Meaning is a made up thing. It's a psychological process. It has no existential meaning. No word has any existential meaning right now, whatever English words we are uttering doesn't mean anything to the trees, but if you you can actually do the experiments have been done.

If you sit here and sing beautifully, I cannot do that.

But if you sit here and sing really properly, the trees, the trees full of flower, it could be because of the rains have aided it. But don't do not discount the power of the sound.

Do not discount the power of the sound. It has influence on everything. Or if you change the mantra, the tree may respond to it.

If you sing music, it may respond to it. If you just generate a part, it may respond to it.

But if you speak, it will not respond. This is true with the tree.

This is true with the divine.