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Vassilovsky played awesome. Awesome. Unreal performance. One of the best goal-attaining performances I can remember for the other team, for the other spacing.

But- Coming off an injury too.

They scored four goals. Four goals is a really good night in the national hockey league. Most teams average under four goals per score per game. The Oilers scored four. Four should be enough to win you the hockey game. They were up three to two. The Stamcos battered in that 3-2 goal. Whatever. That was a nice goal. You tip your cap the first three goals. Skinner looked shaky in the first couple of periods, but you know what? He was making saves. He made a huge save, I believe, in the second period, after the Oilers came back to tie the game, when the Oilers were rallying, dominate. I should say even rallying, dominating. This was a domination. But you know what? This was, again, this was a sell job. This was a church. The only goalie that goalied anyone is Skinner. Skinner sold this game. Like Vaselevsky, he played good, but at the end of the year, you scored four goals on Andre Vaselevsky. He robbed J. S. T. On the same power play in the second period. He played unreal. But you scored four goals, and you're goalie to finish the game, letting goals four and five, horrendous.

Those are non-NHL caliber goals. This is the thing. They came in on an eight game win streak. You talked about it. They've been playing excellent. They still continue to play excellent. They probably played better in this game than they have in majority of the games over that eight game win streak. The difference is you're playing a team that, yes, the Lightning haven't been that good this season, but they have high and dynamic offensive talent. Who you see? Do they give up a lot of chances? Yes. The Oilers haven't been giving up a lot of chances. But Skinner today didn't stop them when the Oilers needed it most. This is a running theme. This is a running problem. No matter how good you play defensively, how good it looks like Skinner is playing when he's not letting in those soft goals, you still need a goalie. He is not a starter for a playoff team. He is young, he can be good, but you can't watch this. Where they are in the game is they can't afford to drop in. It's about two games against Tampa that they deserve to win, that they're goalie sold.

I mean, here's the thing too, right? Vaselev is coming off of an injury. This is not Vaselevsky at his best. He's still obviously going to be fighting something, at least Rust, right? But dude, you see this game and that dominant, dominant second period, insane 23 shots to seven. If it wasn't for Vassilovsky, dude, I think it would have been like 6-2 at that point. At that point, the whole game changes. If you're going into third period 6-2, the Stamcos batter and it doesn't tie the game anymore. I think that performance by Andre Vasevsky actually had a huge effect. Of course, Skinner. You had two bounces, right? The Mott goal in the first period, and then the Stamp Coast goal in the third period. Those ones are... Oh, that's tough. That's a tough one, right? But the ones after that, like Kucharov's in the third, Stamp Coast is in the third, it's just impossible to win if this is what Skinner is putting up. And this is the other thing, too. Who's going to come in? Pickard had a couple of good games, but do you throw Pickard against Florida next?

You have to. You have to. You started Skinner way too much as it is, whether you think he's been playing good, mediocre, bad. And he's been an average NHL goalie the last eight games, and this was the Stewart Skinner that they started the season with tonight. I agree with you that, yes, Vassalovsky played a huge role in this game. The Oilers could have easily been up 7-1 in the second period. But other teams have good goalies. Good teams have good goalies. The Oilers are one of the few really... The oilers are, regardless of where they sit in the standings, a really, really, really good team. I genuinely believe they're a top three team in the NHL. They are really good. There's a few problems on the roster, but again, the great equalizer, the thing that's been biting them in the ass this season more than anything, is goal tending, right? Other teams have goalies. You're in the West. Let's say they're in a wild card, they flip out of the central, they end up playing Dallas in the playoffs. Dallas has Jake Ottinger. We saw what Jake Ottinger did in the playoffs to Calgary. Jake Ottinger is going to play good if you play him in the playoffs.

Look at the performance Aden Hill put up against Edmonton last year. Other teams have good goalies. You'll be up against goalies that put up 30 saves on 30 shots, 40 saves on 40 shots. You need to be able to overcome it. The fact is, they scored enough to be able to do it. They had 55 shots in that, regardless of how good Andrej Basilevsky is playing. This was a dominant... They gave Tampa nothing. The chances of Tampa scored on were not glorious chances.

They were no... They were just absolutely no... Put it to Tampa's ability to score in any situation too. You have Kucharov tied up and he still managed to get that shot through Skinner. You have Samco taking a shot from the blue line and that manages to get through Skinner. There's so many times when Tampa just scored on nothing chances. Even, again, the Tyler Maughton one, it just bounced out to him. It's a knucklepuck. How many times do you just see that go high and nothing happens? That's that. The fact that the lightning were able to put stuff on net and Skinner was just unable to get in the way of these, like you said, floaters, the bounces, these super simple, low danger saves, he just couldn't get them. It doesn't matter if the defense is able to stop a whole bunch of high danger chances. If Skinner is letting in a ton of low danger chances, but we could talk about this all day, right? We'll talk about now the infuriating news that came from Tony Brare, right?

Oh, yeah.

Paulin, in an interview with Tony Brare, said that, We're week to week in the goalie situation in the organization. We are riding Skinner and Pickard until at least Christmas. Bro, you have Florida coming up next. Then you have the New York trio. I don't understand. How could anyone look at this performance tonight and just decide, Yeah, we're good now. We just have Skinner and that's good enough. Pickard's doing okay, that's good enough. This team can win the cup.

They can't with this goal time. And Pickard, it has been good. Pickard has been exactly what you expect. He's been better than you expect, I think, coming on that third goal-like role, coming in and playing really well in the two or three games that he's even played in. But for Holland to say that and then to come up with a performance like that just goes to show you. It doesn't matter. Again, it doesn't matter if they somehow figure out cloning technology and they get two more Connor Mcdavid and two more Leon dry Settlers. The results for every game would be exactly the same if they continue to run out this goal-tending tandem. Tonight, Stuart Skinner, negative 2.88, goal saved above expected. And Baselovsky was 2.17, goal saved above expected. He played unreal, and Skinner played absolutely horrendously. You can't say we're week to week. I don't know what that means. Okay, there was a panic early because they were losing. So you're going to freak out, say, Okay, we need a goalie, and every other team knows you need a goalie. So they're going to jack the prices up and throw it past you an anvil while you're drowning, and they're just going to sit there and you can only trade in a panic thing and then you're going to get police.

Or you trade for a goalie during your eighth game win streak, or as you continue to win and everyone's like, Oh, the goal tendings don't have the problem anymore. Why don't we trade for Nikita Zahirov? Why don't we trade for Sean Monan? We don't need a goalie. Let's go into the playoffs like this. Are you stupid? Are you stupid? Honest to God. Are you actually stupid? We saw this movie last year. The sequel will be no different. If you go into the gold tent, into the playoffs with this goal tending can do, and they will win more games like Skinner, they're going to come out next game. Regardless of who's in that, they're going to play well and they're going to win. They're going to come out in the games in New York and they're going to have games, whereas Skinner is average 900, whatever, doesn't let in any floaters. But the Oilers are excellent defensive. The Oilers have been one of the best defensive teams in the NHL under Chris Novel. Not even close top three, insane how they went from giving up everything to literally giving up nothing. The rush defense is tremendous.

Dude, the performance of Darnell Nurse. I don't know what Paul Coffey is saying in his ear, but Nurse is a changed man. Dude, he's looking incredible. Obviously, score tonight, but he had so many chances that took away Tampa on two onwhen rushes, bringing in his backside, taking guys off pucks, like Nurse looks incredible.

This season. Some of the best hockey, Nurse has played in his entire career. Like Darnell Nurse, since he's been hit, got hit in the face with the buck, has been Norris caliber. Evan Bouchard honestly is a top three defenseman in the NHL. His poise with the buck is like nothing I've ever seen on the Oilers Blue Line ever. I've never seen a player can move like that. Thirteen game point street, the holds at the blue line, the way he evades pressure in the defensive zone is unreal. He has cut out those giant mistakes that he got unlucky a lot early in the season. It's just unreal.

The freedom that Coffey has given Bouchard and all the defensemen has unlocked this incredible potential. Right now, I think they're not second-guessing themselves as much. So they're able to take pinches, take risks when they analyze the situation and feel like, Okay, I have someone coming back anyway. We're going to be able to, even if this gets past me, stop the rush going the other way. Boosh, like you mentioned, this 13-game point streak, 20 points. That is insane. He's the only person that's more insane. Mcdavid, 11-game point streak. This dude has 27 points.

But I expect that from him, honestly. He's playing unreal defensively best he's ever looked. Even Leon, tonight. Leon was flying. Leon was creating. Vaseovsky single-handle, he felt like he stole two goals from Leon, Drysaddle alone. Drysaddle was creating by himself. He's playing with Fogal and Yenmark. They need to get dry a winger. They need to get dry a.

Right-winger back. That's another great point. Dude, Cain and Brown have been so terribly blessed. Normally, in the Cloud, from what I see, in the cloud is a stabilizing presence. He's able to keep things locked down for other players so that they can Excel, take a little bit more risk, at least. Cain and Brown, they've just been an anchor tied to both of his legs. I don't know what's wrong. Because ifender Cain started this season so well. He was, at one point, probably the best player for the Oilers. I mean, Connor Brown is a different story, but something's going on. Do you buy into the rumor that Evander Cain has a nagging injury right now?

No, I don't know. I'm sure everyone has something. But Evander Cain is a streaky player. He hasn't been an Oiler for that long. He's a streaky player. He scores goals in bunches. He'll get six goals in six games, go to the next six games without scoring, four goals in five games, and that's the pace that he runs at. That's the way he plays hockey. He'll either be really good or not noticeable at all. Sometimes a shot goes in, sometimes it doesn't. But I think if Vander Cain has chemistry with certain centers, I think he plays pretty well with McDavid. He plays pretty well with Dryslet. Obviously, hyman and Nugent have been exceptional with Mcdavits. You don't break that up. You're just trying to find whatever works with Dryslet because you need two lines going for sure. The problem right now is we've watched enough oilers hockey to tell when players have chemistry and when it's working and when it's not. And and Conor Brown and Evander Cain on the same line does not work. The amount of passes that are just missed, Conor Brown single hand only twice tonight in the second period just put it.

I was on a two on one or a three on two and put it right on a lightning defender's tape. He can't make a pass, really. Was he effective in the bottom six? I think honestly, yeah, he was a little more noticeable tonight. He was getting puts in deep. He was trying to get on the forecheck. He was creating in the offensive zone at least more than he had in the past. He was a little more effective. But him and Cain just have no chemistry. Mcleod's just there. That line really is not working. You can't have Cain around. We saw that two-on-one where I think they have multiple two-on-ones where they didn't even get a shot off. Those two have no chemistry. It does not work with those two.

You mentioned it. There are times when there's just something about their chemi. There was a great opportunity. Cain threw a rink-wide pass over to Brown, right? And it just barely, It don't even think Brown was moving that fast. It just couldn't find the mark. Something about them just does not click. And I mean, Brown, in the last couple of games, he's gotten a couple more looks than when he started the season. He had a couple of chances tonight. But against Wasilevsky, Dude, if you're trying to break your goalist streak against Andre Wasilevsky, good luck. I think the other thing too, is Fogall... Well, Cain and Brown were playing with Drysidal since last game, right? And they got demoted last game. I think Fogal is doing fine. He's doing okay on Drysidal's wing. He plays well with with McLeod. There's just this missing hole on the right side, right? Yeah. A top six right-winger.

We know what Fogal is and we know what Yenmark is, right? Listen, you can't expect exceptional top-end talent playing with Lino and Drysettl. Obviously, outside of the two guys that you would put with Dr. Isel, if you broke them up, the Nuse, Hopkins, and hymen, and have one with Dry, one with McDavid, then obviously you could get a little bit more balance that way. But the way they have the lines built right now. When you have Yannmark and Fogall with Drysettl, you know what you're going to expect. You're going to get really hard for tracking. You're going to get a lot of effort. You're going to get Yannmark probably fucking up and messing up on the killing an offensive zone possession a couple of times here and there. But you know what? It's better than what it's been with Cain and Brown. There just hasn't been that chemistry with dry settle lately. Before we continue on, I just want to say we got 60 people watching. We got McNator, MGD, all the regular. I saw Swoosh earlier, David, W. A ton of people in chat. If you guys want to go ahead, hit like, wisecows up there.

We'd really appreciate it. Yeah, this game sucks to lose. Oilers obviously deserve the win. They've been playing excellent for what, the past 14 games? Now it just hasn't gone. This one didn't go their way. They got shitty goal tending. But you know what? They're still in a decent... They put themselves back in a decent position. We have to be really thankful for that. But just talking about what you're saying with Yandmark and Fogall, we know what we're going to expect. You're going to get hard forward tracking. We're going to get good effort, but the finish just isn't there. I think outside of a goalie, you want to upgrade on CC, ideally. You are dollar in, dollar out.

But.

You need a right-winger that can play in your top six with Leon, Drysettled. A Jordan, Eberley would be wonderful. 50 % of a train Jordan, Eberley would be absolutely wonderful. But until you get a goalie, I can't even entertain the idea of making other trains, you know what I mean?

Yeah. You have a glaring problem. When you have a glaring problem, when the house is on fire and you're busy watering the plants, it's like, Hey, there's a better thing you could be doing right now. The one good point, if you wanted to start talking about some good things about this game, dude, this fourth line.

Is.

So nutty.

-unreal.

-un-insane. Two power plays drawn by the fourth line. These guys, they're not the biggest dudes.

They're the smallest dudes. It's like having three dentists on your fourth line. Literally, Hamlin, the one Timer in the first period of the pass from at home was so unexpected, legendary. They're drawing penalties through hard work. They're getting down below the opposition goal line and they're grinding away. They're the smallest guys, but it doesn't matter. It's hard work. It's determination. And it's funny, I still hear Oillers, Medio, some broadcasters who work for the team or work near the team, depending on what they say, saying that, Oh, I don't think this fourth line will be effective in the playoffs. I think they need bigger bodies still. They are not this fourth line can't play play of hockey. But you know what? I completely disagree. I think, okay, you get a 6-7 nick Butte statue, okay, great for what he is. Doesn't hit, doesn't do anything. Why do we want to replace what's working? I thought it was excellent. If they went to the plow tomorrow with this fourth line, I'd be ecstatic. Fourth line is the last thing that I think needs changing. This is the best fourth line I can remember the oilers having the consistently.

You used to just hope that the fourth line would go out there and not get scored on and you let Connor go back out and win the goal. That's all with the goal. That's all with the goal. Every time this fourth line is on the ice, they are doing something. They're creating. They are drawing penalties. They are getting momentum back for your team. There is always a positive force when this fourth line is on the ice. Derrick Ryan, Sam Ghanye, James Hamlet have been absolutely excellent.

And if you look at it too... Ghanye, up until this game, he's had two games, three-game point streak. He had three points during that. Derrick Ryan, with his assist tonight, he has a three-game point streak going with three points. It's nutty, and it's not just offensive zone two. There was a play where Derrick Ryan and Vinny Dejarnay was stuck behind Skinner. They were just trying their best to hold Tampa back. They were against the top line of Tampa Bay. They were putting in the effort and it results in that Hamlin breakout and Calvin Dehan has to take a penalty on him. When the entire Tampa first line is so gassed that your center on the fourth line is able to make a breakout and they have to go, If I don't hold this guy back, there's a high chance it's going to be a high danger breakaway. I love it. It's insane. This is a fourth line that can defend. This is a fourth line that's been able to get offense going. This is a fourth line that just rough and tumble, gives energy to the team. It is insane. When you look at Derrick Ryan and Sam Ghani, especially these two old timers, and they're able to get the bones moving.

Again, they got crushed against the boards a couple of times tonight, gets back up. No harm, no foul. We're going to keep playing. I'm in love with this fourth line. I hope they never break it up. But if you don't break up the fourth line, you don't break up the first line. What are you going to do with the Kemi on this second and third line?

Well, this fourth line is a line that you could tell that Nobla, every single game is gaining more and more trust with. They're playing 10 minutes only on average, but it's a really noticeable 10 minutes. It's not like going out there and watching Adam and Ernie do nothing and shit his pants for 10 minutes. You're going out there and again, like we said, they're making hits. They're making plays. They're not the biggest guys. They're still getting in there. They're still making life hard on Andrej Vassar. You saw the only scrums that came from in this game or on that fourth line was on the ice when Brett Kool-Oxford, Vinny, Day-or-Nay were on the ice. This fourth line is excellent. But also the thing is, I think these guys work well together. This is a line that, yeah, I get that you want to shuffle up that middle six, but I wouldn't touch this fourth line. We saw Sam Ghani try and play with Connor McDavid. Well, he has that offensive skill. That instinct is still there from that seventh overall pick. They're not fast enough. These guys are all similar skaters, similar builds, similar players, and they work well together.

This is something that I don't break them. I keep as long as they're rolling and they are still rolling. They are winning the match. They are just winning the match because the other team's fourth line. Nobloq trust them out against Tampa's top players, and they did well. They did really well.

The Stanko's goal, where he battered out of midair and tied the game- Oh, yeah.

Out of.

The four. We have four. The one where he tied the game up by batting the rebound out of midair, I believe they sent out the third line because they just gone on the ice when Stanko scored that goal. But after the third line got one shift back out there, the fourth line went out, and that's a lot of trust. It's a tie game situation, and you're sending your fourth line after there was a decent break and the first and second lines could have clearly gone onto the ice. No, no, we're going to send out our energy, guys. We're going to try and get a little bit of momentum. Maybe fish for another penalty, right? But at that point in the game too, third period, it's a Thai game. The refs aren't going to be just giving out penalties unless it's something egregious. I'm still insanely happy about how the team has played, but tonight, that third period, it just puts such an ugly, terrible taste.

In your mouth. And again, the team played excellent. We can sit here and say, Okay, Cain and Brown don't work well together. But at the end of the day, you can get by with that line. Again, I believe the oil is tied a club record for shots. They have 56 shots in the game for an anahl. Com. I believe that's a franchise record or at least ties the.

Franchise record. Ties it, something like that.

They played well. They will win way more often than not with just playing like this, playing like they have over the last nine games. I just saw this on Twitter that Zach Lang just tweeted out a quote from Stewart Skinner's press conference, and he just said, I think the guys played a heck of a game. Nobody in the room should be except for me, to be honest. I think that I ended up losing us the game. That's something I'll take on and I'll be better for it. I think these guys in here should be real happy with how they play. So they know. Every person in that dressing room knows what happened. They saw that Stamco goal going like that. Just so weak, the Kuch Rob goal, where Cutrobe, like him or hate him, he tied up Kuch Robbe. He did what he had to do. He did his job. All Skinner had to do was be set and be ready and just not be caught sleeping. And he was. And it's a consistent theme. In games that they win and games that they lose, you're always nervous. There's always something. It's never just smooth sailing.

It's always stressful. And that's why I'm team all the futures. I don't care. All the way, three, first, whatever, forgo, whatever he's got to be, you send that for an actual goal upgrade. None of this Montreal. No one wants Montreal's goalies. Stop talking about them. No one wants capital cack in it. If you can get McKinsey Blackwood, if you can get anyone new, a legitimately good goalie. A guy who's been good, a guy who can be good, a guy who still is good, you go and do that. I'd still believe National World Trade UCSars had given the right package.

So you gave them.

Three firsts, you're telling me they wouldn't move them?

Bro, we saw microbiff, the Carlson trade. So at this point, anything is possible, my man. It's so silly if you just look at it and oilers fans have a short memory. This was a team that won eight. They were trying to beat the franchise record. We have a short memory. We're doing fine. It is 50 %. But when you just get this experience, Skinner, I have faith he'll bounce back, but you can't look at this with short-term memory if you're Ken Haulney. You have to go into this going, Hey, I'm making phone calls. I'm trying my best. I'm not going to take a stupid deal because we're no longer in that territory, but I'm going to keep trying. You can't come out here and just say, Don't worry, we're going to run our luck, and just roll the dice again. I'm sure it will be back. So what? You get into the playoffs, like you said. You run it with Skinner and Pickard. Let's say they're doing great. They get us into the playoffs. What are you going to do? What are you going to do against- They don't beat L. A. They don't beat L?

And L. A. Has ham, Talbot, as their starting goalie.

Yeah, they won't beat L. A. And I see a bunch of Tampa fans are here talking about how the Bolt Seasons has actually been good. We haven't even mentioned the Bolts were without Victor Headman tonight. This was a game you should have won. Andrej Grasovsky obviously, first and foremost, stole the game, but second Skinner sold the game, right? That's where we all are sitting there. But yeah, man, the Lightning give up so many odd man rushes, it feels like, hey. Every time you turn around, it was Connor Brown, James Hamlet, Deric, or there were guys that don't normally get on odd man rushes outside the penalty goal. Don't know, Nurse got a shorthand goal. There were just so many different things that were weird. Like, Tampo is a very leaky team, it looks like. And the thing is, it looks almost like they give up to generate. They generate a number of chances and the difference between them and the oilers is they have the ability to play that way because they are confident that their goalie is going to stop them. The oilers can't give up anything because if there's even a single goal that requires Skinner to move laterally from side to side, there is an above 50 % chance that that will end up in the back of the net.

And it's just you cannot happen. Good teams generate chances. I don't care if you're the 85 oilers, the 2,000, whatever, Redwings, the Pittsburgh Penguins of 2009, you give up chances. Teams give up chances. It does not matter how good you are. You need a goalie that can make a save once in a while. And Skinner, even if he had, again, earlier in the game, makes a huge save, keep the oilers in it, keep them, again, believe, keep the lead. But later in the game, he sold. So it negates everything. It doesn't matter. You cannot give up those leaky goals, especially in the past. When it's even harder to generate, when the game gets tighter, this is not a recipe for success. They're such a good team. They're so close. No matter where, they could finish in the final wildcard spot just because of gold hunting. If they make a trade in March for a goalie and they go on the post, honest to God, I think they're the cup favorite. They genuinely should be.

They just got to get someone to help Skinner.

No, they need someone ahead of Skinner, not to help Skinner.

They need a 1A. They need a 1A to Skinner's 1B, right? If you look at Skinner and taking ownership of it, I don't want to attack the guy. This is not stew, willingly, I hope not, not willingly throwing the game. But he has to be better, and it's hard for him to be better if we're constantly riding him when he's honestly just a 1b. He's still a young goalie. We need someone to take minutes from him. Unless something happens in the front office, it doesn't look like we're getting this help.

I think they will. I think eventually they will. It's just sooner rather than later. When you have the start that you have, or you need it sooner rather than later, when you have the start that you have and you're 291, you cannot afford to lose games or you dominate. You can't afford to lose these games. I can see you ask your press questions and I see a bunch of people already asking some stuff. Let's jump into that right here.

Let's get moving to the.

Press conference. What I wanted to say was, like Swooj talked about it. When there was an empty net, Fogal draws the powerplay. They go six on four. Excellent, Vaselevsky, a number of huge saves. The power play ends, or on the power play, sorry. Leon, Drysettled could have put it in over Vaseovsky's pad and the ref just blew the whistle. Right there, momentum killer. But you know what? I can't blame the rest. That's a bad break, but how many opportunities did they have to tie? If they have to tie, they end up scoring anyway to go up five, four. Who's to say if they score that goal, that New John, can still score, right? You just... You don't know. They got it close, but it didn't matter. Again, the Oilers played well. They scored four goals on a goalie having a once-a-season type performance, and they still lost the game because their goalie was just that bad.

They just couldn't make the cut. I just want to stop talking about this game, man. It sucks. It's a pain. But let's get into the press conference. Yeah, first, we'll start with some easy ones. We'll warm you back up after a day off, after a little bit of boozing and perusing, I'm sure, from your semester ending. We'll start with Mcinator's question. What goalie do you want to go after? Who do you want to see in the net? You've mentioned none of Montreal's three.

Dream.

Is UC, Sauros.

Oh, yeah, Dream is UC Sars. Still is. I don't care what anyone says. I still believe... I mean, National is in a playoff spot, honestly, so I guess I should hold off on that, even though I still believe they would trade him. But maybe it's Jaroslaw, who is not proven and that'd be a very risky trade, but he's still with all the futures. It's one of the best goalie prospects in the last 10 years. And he's just sitting there playing for, I believe, Bridgeport. Just sitting there, just waiting to play in the NHL. But Nashville has got a really good goalie and he's not going anywhere, so who knows? Obviously, you never know, John Gibson be had, is he still good? Who knows with that one? Mckenzie Blackwood is a great option. Elvis Mure-Leakens is on the IR. He's been relatively mid, but again, he's been pretty really good this year in front of a pretty very shitty Columbus team, probably the worst, if not second worst team in the NHL. That would be a guy. If you could... That'd be a guy you could probably move Campbell to them in a small core and get Marees Lekins and not have to add that much.

Just because we're.

On a very similar deal.

Another dude who, I mean, he celebrated a win tonight, Carter-Aard out of Philly. What do you think? Because Philly should be rebuilding. This is the thing that you look, right? You have Campbell, who's probably going to help you tank a bunch of games. Carter-heart?

If you could be happy. Ideally, yeah, sure. I love Carter-Heart in theory, but... How do I put this? He's a good goalie.

He's a good goalie.

But he's got some things. Until the Team Canada stuff comes out, you don't touch it. I'm sure Philly would have traded him if they could. No one wants to trade him. Everyone's waiting for the Team Canada stuff to come out.

It's a shadow over his head.

Yeah, and you can't touch that contract until the suspensions are announced and whatnot. In theory, yeah, hard or hard, Edmondson Guy would be sick.

Let's say the contract gets canceled out, right? At least you got to dump Campbell.

But I don't think they would take Campbell in a Carter Heart deal. They would want assets for Carter. Carter Heart still is a top-end goalie at his peak when he's playing good, he's still really young yet. You're paying for Carter Heart. You're paying a lot of assets, and you're still... Yeah, it's not going to be good. How high do you think Edmondson could climb before the class from Luke Venables? Okay, that's a good one. So here, I'll just give you my thoughts. So essentially, yeah, the oilers lose today, it all depends on goal tending. This team could go on another A game here, 10 game here, 12 game here easily. They are so good. It all depends on goal tending from here on out. The schedule gets harder, and then I think after the All-Star break, it's going to get really a lot lighter, similar to the way it did last year. I honestly would not be shocked if they caught the Vancouver Knucks. That's my measuring stick.

You think the PD is coming down?

Well, it has been. The Knucks have been very mediocre since their insane start and the oilers have been the complete opposite. I think they can get third in the Pacific.

I honestly think- Really?

Yeah, I think they can get third in the Pacific. L. A. Has lost three in a row on the road, I think now. These teams are coming back down to Earth. You lost one. You just got to see how you rebound. It'll tell me a lot how they come out and play against Florida next game. Because if you go back and continue winning here, obviously, you can't win every game like that. That's going to happen. But if you play like this again, you'll win way more than you lose, and I think they'll finish in a divisional spot.

It's.

A rough one tonight. It's just frustrating. We could go through the game. It was an awesome game. There's a ton of stuff happen. We can go through it. But really, the storyline is gold tending, and we touched on.

It, right? And some short memory, right? If you asked just a game ago, the prospects would be so high. It'd be like, Yeah, we're going to have 50 wins, no problem. It's going to be 100-something points. The others are unstoppable. They're such a wagon.

I'd say they could get still in the 100-105 point range by the end of the season. I think that's very realistic, honestly, for this team.

It's so tough, man. I don't think they'll get 50. Let's say, I don't think they're going to get 50 wins.

No, they can't get 50 wins, but there's 55 games left here if they go 30, 19, and 1. That's horrible math. Jesus. That was just 50.

Some...

Let's say 30, 24, and 1.

You're thinking what, like 45 wins? I think they.

Could get above 45 wins. I wouldn't be shocked at 35, 19, and 1.

Yeah, because Emerson is terrible. They either win in overtime or they just lose in regulation. It's so hard.

Now, I keep going back on my thing. I'm saying 39, 15, and 1 or 39, 14, and 1. I can't do the math that well.

I'm throwing it in the towel. No more math on stream. No more math on stream.

I'm embarrassing myself.

We'll finish with this one. Mgd addressed it to me, so I guess I'll take this question. With John Tavares getting his thousandth point recently, do you think that McDavid will get his thousandth this year? He's currently at 888 career points. He's drafted six years after Tavares. The guys on SDPN talked about it for a little bit. Cory Perry's... Sorry, Connor McDavid's insane. He's going to catch Cory Perry, a guy who's done. His career is done. He's already caught Brad Marshan. Insane. He's in the greats territory already, and this is a player who's just getting into his prime. Do I think he's going to hit 1,000 this year? I don't. I think he'll be a little bit shy of that. I think I'm thinking-.

I would like him too.

I'd love him to, but I don't think it's realistic to happen. If you ask anyone, if you interview Connor McDavid, it's like, Hey, does this mean something to you? You're going to get close to 1,000 points. You want to do it this season? This dude doesn't care. He's going to say he doesn't care. Maybe deep down he does. But if you ask him when the O'Lears are five points out of a playoff spot, Fuck no, dude, I don't care about 1,000. I just want to get us into the playoffs. I want to start playing post-season hockey. If he gets to 1,000, great, but I'm thinking he's going to be 9:50 or something like that, and he's not going to care.

He's got to average two points per game for the rest of the season. I mean, it's possible. I'd give it a 25 % chance of happening, honestly. He's that good that he can average two points per game for the rest of the season, especially if he had the slow start, that's where I was, got to speed wobbles out, whatever. I believe at the end of this season, if he stays on his current pace, he'll be third all time in Euler scoring, something like that, if not very close. And Ryan Nugent-Hawkins, by the end of the season, will be third all time in games played for the Edmonton-Oilers. There will be two guys ahead of him, Ryan Smith and Kevin Lowe. And then not next season, but the season after Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, barring Andrea, of course, will be the franchise leader in games played. There are some world to that. There are some world to that. There's upcoming, and I think they will all be hit. It's just a matter of when. But if Connor doesn't do it by April. He'll do it literally by October 15th.

He'll be done. Yeah.

Well, he'll get 1,000 quick.

I don't think it's high on the priorities for anyone on this team.

I used to care. I used to watch the individual awards. I do want to try to settle in the art, Ross. I want all that stuff. I wanted 150 points. I actually don't care. I couldn't care less about the individual points now, and I'm sure they're the exact same way. I only care if they win. If McDavid and Jarsdlin don't finish top five in scoring this year, I do not care. I still know that they're both the two best players in the National Hockey League. I know that Evan Bouchard is a top three defenseman in the National Hockey League. I just care about winning. I just care about winning. I just care about winning. And I know that they do too. And you know what? Get a fucking goalie and then you'll be able to win.

Get a goalie. If we get there, if we get to the big show off the backs of like Zach Heiman, who cares? Just someone score the goals, someone make the saves, get us into the playoffs, and then we'll try and go cup hunting before they're tipped and dry settled, have another huge boost to their salaries. That's it for the show tonight, guys. Thank you so much for being here. Sorry it couldn't be a win. It would have been well deserved. But hey, next game, it's going to be another test. Good Florida teams coming into town. It's Saturday. It's an 8:00 PM Mountain Time puck drop. Zach and I will be back for that show. Tune into Game Over, Edmonton. Zach, where can they find you?

You can find me @ZWheel97 on Twitter, bitching about the Oilers' gold training. Dennis, where can they find you?

@dennisley, Y-E-G. I try to keep it more toned down, more mellow. But if you get a little tidbit about my missing laptop, please do tweet it at me. That's it for the night show. Good night, everybody. Unfortunately, we can't play La Bamba tonight, but we will leave you with our intro video. Bye-bye. Game over.