My.

Back is sweating from drinking hot tea. My front is sweating. I have sweats on.

I'm sweating. Sean, your microphone is on. Oh, sorry. Sean, your.

Microphone is on. Sorry.

Why do you think they call it sweats? Do you think they call it sweats because you're supposed to sweat in those- Inside.

-those clothes?

Yeah, probably. Probably. What? Did they not invent shorts? No. But did they.

Not invent shorts? You look at them in the center of a genius sandwich. Fucking hell.

But why would you if you're going to make sweats, did they not have shorts back then?

No, I know. They need like a polo way sweat so they.

Could just- They've got sweats.

-switch them from sweats to shorts in a second. Yeah.

You ever watch a basketball game? You'll see one.

Of those. Oh, I want some.

Of those. Yeah. Well- Holy Christ. -do it after this record. We're going to do a quick Smartlist real quick.

Oh, it's an old new Smartlist.

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Hey, good morning. Is this better for everybody? 9:30 in the morning?

Is the morning better now? We're going to have a little less complain.

Who's complaining?

No, we had a few late night. Well, one of them you called a late night. It was.

4:00 PM. Yeah, I was.

Already in my pajamas. Oh, well, that's pretty late.

I.

Don't know. That was a late night, unless you're in Hawaii. I know. And it's lunch. Right now, it's lunch in New York City.

It's lunch in New York City.

But it's breakfast here in L. A.

It is. Look, I got.

My tea. Morning, you guys. What did you guys have for breakfast this morning?

Nothing yet.

Really?

I actually had a piece of toast with some natural peanut butter and a couple of slices of banana on top. Sounds fun. I wasn't feeling great this morning.

Oh, really? What happened? I don't know. Is it tummy? Is it bag?

Yeah, little tummy. Baby woke up in the night. Well, he's not a baby anymore, but little throw-up in the middle of.

The night. Oh, my God. Ricky threw up last night.

Really? Yeah. Maybe Danny has gone into your trash. Ricky.

I don't eat till noon.

Is that right? Yeah. Then it's fucking watch out. Everything's in trouble. Do you do that.

Fasting thing? Is that what time the Timer on the locks goes off? On the cabinet?

On the cabinet. That's what Scottie set all the timers for.

Yeah, you can hear.

The tick, pick, and all that. Are you doing a let's not eat for.

12 hours thing? Yeah, sure. I've just never, ever, never have been hungry ever in my whole life in the morning. The first time I eat is... But you are right about to watch out. I eat everything.

And then you'll go late. Will you eat late?

No, and then I'll have a really little dinner.

That's it. Well- And then snack. Let's check the tape on that. Will, can we run the tape on that?

Yeah. I mean, I was just going to say, little what? A little heavy on the cheese. No, I.

Eat just a little. But I do. I eat little portions so I can eat big desserts.

Right. You save the room for.

The dessert. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

That makes sense. Yesterday, Will FaceTime me. I was in the middle of therapy. And I was like, Yeah, I'll pick it up. And she's like, Oh, excuse me. And I was like, Yeah. And the therapist is like, Oh, what are you doing? And he says, and the first thing he says is, Hey, man. I go, Hey. He goes, I'm in therapy. And I showed a picture. I turned the camera around and my therapist is like, Hello. And he goes, Oh, my therapist just died. I was like, Really? And he said he collapsed from the weight of my secrets. That was pretty funny.

It's true. Do you often take calls during therapy?

No, but my phone just happened to be like the flap open. You call it my purse.

Oh.

Right. Yeah, and I saw it. Your phone book.

My phone book.

Huh. Oh, gosh. Should we get it? This is fun. Are we done? Is it too early to do a podcast?

No, it's not.

Too early. We're still in bed.

No, it's not too early. I'm just a little quiet today. Like I said, I'm feeling very...

Spilcus? What's a Yiddish term?

Because you didn't sleep. You're like you're a little LGD, low-grade depression.

Yeah, maybe it is. I don't know. I wouldn't call it that. But maybe it is. But also just very pensive.

Yeah, that's what it is.

You didn't sleep.

That's what happened. Well, that's all right. Because you know it's going to put a nice wash of warmth and positivity over your day.

Our guest is like, Great. I got to lift the hosts up.

Here she comes. Our guest is an actor so filled with taste, talent, and accomplishment. I feel classy just thinking about her, you guys. She's got the awards and nominations, sure, a long list of impressive films and a stack of big shot co-stars and directors. But most impressive, Will, is her particular light that she sends out from the character she plays. It's always something authentic. It's fully human, often complex, but somehow fully relatable. We never catch her acting Will. It always just feels like we're spying on a character caught in the middle of something. You know, Sean? Yeah, sure. How does.

She do it? I like the way he.

Personalizes it. Does she enjoy it?

Hope we're going to find out.

What else does she do? Hobbies? What's it like being married to a rock star? Does she prefer coffee, tea, cake, pie, Beyonce, or Tay-Tay? Guys, let's figure it all out. Please welcome, Cary Muligan. Oh, Kari.

Hi, Cary. Hi, guys.

Go away. Will, don't you.

Feel warm and washed? I do. I am a particular fan of Cary's.

I'm a huge fan of Cary. It's true.

Well-.

Carrie, it's true. I told you, I've had the pleasure. I've had the- Gift. Yeah, sure. I've seen Carrie's latest performance in Maestro, and it has rocked me since the day I've seen it. Carrie, I've been telling everybody- It will rock anyone. I don't want to embarrass you.

You're so sweet. It's true. I was so nervous when you were at… Hi, everyone, by the way. Hi. Hi, Cary. Nice to meet you. So nice to meet you. I was so nervous that you were at Bradley's house and we had that screening. And all I wanted to say the whole night was, Marcus and I fall asleep to rest at development. Not an unfalling asleep way, but like that's our show.

No, you said it.

We've already said it. Literally, I can quote the show. And I was too nervous to say anything. And afterwards, Marcus was like, Why were you so cool? You should have just said it. I was like, I can't. But I was so excited and so nervous for you to see it, and it meant the world that you liked it.

Oh, God, please. Love it.

I can't wait to see it.

But, Cary. God, it is. Jason, you're right. Carrie, you have done so.

Many-look at how up Will is already. It's true. Cary, you've been listening so far. I know. I'm sorry. You had a bad night. He was down. He was in his tummy. And you just woke him up.

Into love. Well, you know what it's like with the little ones, right? Oh, yeah. Little Danny woke up at 1:00, and then he barfed in his bed, and then he came into our bed, then he barfed in our bed. Then we stripped all the sheets in our bed. It was 1:15. We're stripping the sheets, and he's on the thing. He's got all those pass-throughs, and he goes, Where are we going to sleep?

Oh.

God.

I know. I've done that. So you've been there? Yeah, I'm.

Doing that now. You could treat them just like a dog and put them in a room locked up where you don't hear if he starts crying or yelling or yelling or barking or barking. And the throw up just you can deal with in the morning.

Yeah, see how that goes.

Where did you sleep well? Where did you end up sleeping?

Well, we had... God, it was a real hodgepodge that all night. I slept on one side of our bed, and then Sandra took him back and was in with his bed. But one of the good things, and then we'll stop this and we'll get into Carrie, is that he learned. Now he knows how to throw up in a trowet, like in a bucket. He taught him that. And at first he was like, Wait, I'm going to... No. And now he's like, I have to be sick now. And then he goes over and does it. And it's really sweet that he's learned that.

Maybe get a pail he can just put over his head with a little handle and just hangs around his head like a necklace.

I'm going to say your parenting tips are really... They're bordering on dangerous, a lot of them.

I can share them with the bed next time.

So, Carrie, where are we finding you right now? God, it's great.

To see you. I'm in L. A. Oh, right. Fantastic. Doing the stuff.

Oh, yeah, for the press tour for.

The movie. Yeah. So our film comes out very soon. So it worked out that we just suddenly went from naught to 60 and jumped on flights. And so now we're here.

Right, because the strike went away and you could talk about this thing that I'm sure you and Bradley are excited to discuss because it is so damn good. I think we've all done projects where it's like, Oh, now I got to go talk about how great it is in quotes. But this one truly.

Is easy to talk about how bad that is. I know it's so nice to not have to lie. It's so nice.

To just- And, Carrie, can I just say, and again, at the risk of embarrassing you, people will be able to go and see Maestro in theaters and then be able to watch it on Netflix. Again, I don't want to embarrass you. I think that your performance in Maestro is one of the great performances I've seen in the last 20 years. I really do. It's really so moving and beautiful. And there's.

Something in- Sean, you won't get it.

I won't get it. Sean won't definitely Sean won't get it because it's not in space.

There's music, there's pianos and stuff in it.

It's not for him. Sean, the music part, Sean, it's going to blow you away as a musician and as a pianist. The whole thing will blow you away. The whole thing. But, Kerry, you do, and obviously, Bradley is incredible in every way. But, Kerry, there's something about what you've done in this film that I honestly, it's transformative. I hate using the word because it's so gross, we always shy away from certain catchphrases that we as actors or filmmakers or whatever often use.

I hope you say storyteller.

I'm not going to say storyteller, but you truly are an artist. I really mean that.

It's a tight second.

It is a tight second. I'm followed very closely by the physically doing prey hands. But truly. I just want to say that whatever you do, if there ever is an endorsement that we've ever done on this show, this is one. Please see Kari Mulgar in Maestro. That's so lovely.

I have a question about it because Bradley showed me clips early on, and he invited me to one screen and I couldn't go. But I can't wait to see it. But when you... I've heard only great things Will was saying. When you do a role like that, how much prep time do you give yourself? How much work do you put into it before you start day one? And how nervous are you in playing such an incredible character on the first day of filming? Where do you get the confidence? I think I got this. Are we rolling? Watch this. Watch what I'm going to do with this. Oh, God.

I.

Don't.

Know that. It's so scary. I don't know. I don't think I've had a part like this. I feel like I've had parts like this on stage, like really, really rich, big, something epic about them, parts, but not amazing. I've had such amazing luck with jobs, but on screen, and when he offered it to me, I was shocked, because first of all, I thought, Oh, you think I can act? That's so nice. But secondly, that just I don't know, it was like he just done a star one. It was just wild to think like, Oh, gosh, you're trusting me with this? But within that conversation he said, like, If you're going to do this, you have to go all in. And I thought like, Oh God, not all in. I've always been a bit like, People keeping their dialect in between scenes and things. Right.

Everyone's got different processes. There are different definitions of all in.

Yeah. But then I was like, Oh, I think I have to do Bradley's All-In, which is, as you will know- All-In?

Yeah. Sounds so good.

When you said- You're the best. Yeah. And with this one, particularly, he had to be all in because he not only plays the lead, but also, or co-lead, but also wrote it, directed it, produced it.

That's a lot. And, Carrie, you have to play your character. You... I mean, you start, we meet you. You're just this... Your character is this budding young performer, actress, and then you fall into this deep relationship with this other person, and really the movies about this relationship between these two people. We go with you through your life, through this character's life, on this incredible journey. We see all these different stages, and it's really impressive to watch some... People have done things like that before, but that's no small feat as an actor to go through that, to track that, to be present in all those different stages of that person's life. I can imagine, is very difficult as an actor.

Yeah. I think it was like Bradley did all the work. He did all the work on his character. I mean, I don't know how he did. He's some genius. It's just so crazy. The script, everything is just mad. So he was ringing me up. I'm sure he was doing this to you. He was ringing me up as Lenny two years before we started shooting, face-timing in character. I mean, it was the madness. Oh, wow. I was putting the kids to bed and it would just suddenly be.

Like, Don't worry, mate. I was going to- Letter-Bird sign's on the phone. I'll call you back.

But yeah, he's just… And so then I got into it really early as well, because I signed on in 2018, and we didn't shoot until 2022. I had time and I had an opportunity to really do lots of the work. We narrated an opera together in Philadelphia, one of his operas. We did so much that by the time we got on set and we did this mad dream workshop thing, I'm sure he told you about, where we spent a week together crying a lot. By the time we got there, actually, it was one of the first, maybe the first time I didn't feel completely terrified on day one because I felt like, Oh, we've got our thing. And he made it so that you could just basically do anything and it didn't matter. And that was so fun.

One of the things that I love about your abilities is that every character you play, you're so, it seems, in touch with their internal stuff, and you're really doing... You can really feel your character thinking and feeling before they're talking, before they're performing, before they're doing anything physical. That is something that's fairly... It's much easier to capture on film because camera is close to you. It can be. But on stage, you often have to consider the person in the back row, too. Tell me about the difference in, not in process and all stuff, because I don't want to put the audience to sleep, but was that a difficult thing for you to calibrate, modulate as you went from theater into film? Because you're so small and subtle in film in a great way. Yet I'm sure you can't really do that on stage and still be as effective.

It's weird because I had to reverse engineer it because my first job was a film, but I had done a lot. I mean, I was never going to be a theater. A musical theater was what I wanted to do.

Really? Okay. Oh, Sean just woke up. I know.

I'm pointing at his little box on the screen.

Which ones? And we'll go through them all.

Okay, cool. I did Pride and Prejudice. That was my first job, and I played this little... I played one of the Bennett Sisters and just ran around for the whole summer, giggling. And then I went to the Royal Court Theater and did my first play straight afterwards. And that was a real... And I didn't train, I didn't go to drama school, so I felt completely unqualified to do any of it. I think I just learnt in the job. But I think I only ever found the difference being in reaching the back of the room with my voice, not with my anything else. Oh, really? I don't really think I did modulate anything, and maybe that's not. But I've also only played maximum.

1,000 seats. But you definitely had to trust that people were getting it, were seeing it. You were communicating with the audience. And how did you get that trust, that confidence, that feeling without having gone through any training or any practicing or education in it? What gave you the sense that you were good at acting and that you knew what you were doing that you were capable of it?

I don't know if I got... I feel like I just got a really great part. When I was 21, I got to play Nina in The Seagull at the Royal Court in London. And I worked with an amazing cast on that. And that character is just the most... It's what I mean about not getting to play a part like Felicia on screen. Nina is that role. She really goes from this innocent, young, naive, want to be star to someone who is completely destroyed by her experiences by the end of the breadth of her experience. It's just so amazing. Yeah, We'll.

Be right back.

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I like Jason, question is like, what gave you the guts to do this?

Well, I was trying to get to the place of light, which she's too humble to say, but that it's natural for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I'm joking because yeah, that's right. It is natural for you. And like, John. Well, no, I was going to say, Jason, you touched on it, but in reference to what you had said, Carrie, that you said that you didn't go to drama school or anything, and yet you lived and worked in this environment that very much there is a hierarchy in that way because in the English acting and performing community, if you didn't go to Rada or if you didn't go whatever, there's like, who are you? A little bit. And you must have felt... Tell me, I'm asking you, did you ever feel like an outsider in that way, and that you had to work extra hard to prove that you were just as good as a lot of these folks who came, people who came out of.

Drama school. Oh, yeah. The first play I did professionally was straight after Pride and Prejudice. And the director had to… It's the first preview. All the cast went into this room to go and warm up, and I could hear it because they had the little speaker thing on and I could hear it in my dressing room, and they're all going, Oh, doing all the weird like… I thought, Fucking hell, I'm not. I'm in my whole body just... I'm just closed. I just thought, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. And the director, Katie Mitchell, literally came into the room and she physically moved me into that room and just sat me on the floor. I was like, Just try. And I just sat there going, Oh, God, this is so fucking embarrassing. I can't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I think maybe towards the end of that, I started feeling a bit more comfortable. It just felt like not just embarrassing, but also like, I look like such a tip. I don't know what I'm… Any noises that I make are not the noises you're meant to make. But it was.

Funny because by the time- They're going to look at you and go like, What noises are you making? We're making these- Yeah, that's not the correct noise. We're making these.

Ridiculous noises. But they were all rapid fire doing Shakespeare monologs. But somehow by the time I got to New York, we did The Seagull in London, and we did The Seagull in New York. And in New York, Zoe Kazan played Masha, and we became best friends in the world. And we used to go downstairs on every night, and we would just sing, Do you hear the people sing from Le Mizrable on stage? And that was our warm-up.

That was your warm-up? Yeah. But that's good that you had at.

Least- That became like the thing that I made my own weird noise. But yeah, so I think by the time I did that, I felt like, Oh, not what I'm like, but I felt comfortable that I was an actor a.

Bit more. Did you feel part of the club? Sorry, Sean, just to follow up on that part. Did you feel like at that point you became doing that and you were having success. Did you feel like, Okay, I've now carved out my own path, and I don't have to worry about that other stuff again?

I now have my own sound.

Sort of. I think I just, yeah, I all felt fluky for a while, but I still didn't feel, I mean, definitely when in theater, I felt completely, I loved just doing all the prep and all that and feeling completely immersed in the whole thing. Film, I always felt like, Oh, hello.

Sorry.

Don't mean to- Just passing through. -quickly stand in front of the camera and just...

What about an education, was that the first thing that really pushed you out into? I mean, it was an Academy Award nomination, right? Was the change in climate, was it palpable for you? Was that an exciting thing or a nerve-wrecking thing? Because a bunch of really cool stuff followed that.

No, yeah, that was totally. That was a five-week shoot or something, and I thought maybe it would be on in a couple of cinemas. I had no expectations for that at all. And then we went to Sundance, and it turned into this thing. So yeah, it was a big shift. And I think I regret not having as much fun as I should have done. I think I took it all quite seriously and had a real imposter syndrome. I'd be in rooms just thinking like, What.

The actual fuck do I- But did that come from a sense of, Oh, my God, what I always hoped would happen is it seems like it's about to start? Or was it, I had no plans whatsoever, this was fun, and now this has happened, and now I'm expected to make a career of this and be some big fancy actor.

No, I think definitely it was all I wanted to do. But I think in my mind, I was thinking, Okay, good, right, I can get another job. It was that. It was like, This is great, because then the good part is that the directors are going to see this.

And I bet you still feel like that, right? Oh, God, yeah. This profession, there's just no guarantees, no idea whether you're going to be working.

12 months from now. Yeah, I was going to ask you that, Carrie. Now, with all of the incredible work that you've done, isn't there some sense of like, Okay, I think I'll be working, or does that never go away?

I don't know. I think you're always hoping that that one person sees it and then wants to hire you. Do you know what I mean? You always feel that it's to someone's taste. I don't think it ever does go away.

Do you watch your stuff? Do you.

Watch your- Do you know it? The only thing I've watched is Maestro? It's funny because I don't really. Really? No, no, no. I've never seen, like she said, that came out last year. I saw a promising young woman once.

Yeah. You should check it out. Is it because you get self-conscious? Do you watch playback on set?

No, no, no, no, no. No. Never. No, it fucks me up completely. No, I can't. I can't look at anything, and I can't look at stills. I can't look at… Although, but Bradley was so like… He wanted us to have a sense of what we were making all the time. So I did. I watched stuff with him, and I've watched a couple of cuts of… I haven't seen the final cut of Maestro yet, but I will, and I want to. But with most.

Things, no, I just- The progression of it is amazing. The first cut I saw was already incredible. But the way he shaped it, kept moving it, it never went backwards. It was always... And he's just he's a great filmmaker.

Yeah, he is. I feel very privileged that you never watched anything and I got to watch Maestro with you then.

Yeah, and my husband watched it as well, and he's watched it now twice, and he's done. He doesn't like the sad parts. He can't.

Watch the sad parts. Oh, yeah, of course. That must have been. It was so fun meeting you guys and meeting Marcus, obviously. Tell us a little bit. I mean, you're married to, like Jason said, you're married to a rock star.

I was thinking it's so funny. Marcus Mumford. Mumford and sons. Yeah, Mumford and sons.

I don't know the rock star thing always sounds like it. Well, it's true. Well, you know, you must have... Did you meet him, Jason, when you were doing the video?

You did the video, didn't you? I don't think we met that day, but I met you guys at Austin City Limits at one point. I was there for a radio head show, I want to say. And that was really, really cool. Yeah, we had a blast to it. That was a... We did a video. Oh, yeah, who did that? You know, Sam Jones directed that. Sam Jones directed the Smartless Doc. Sudeikus? Yeah, it was Sudeikus. It was Wilforte. It was me. Ed. And it was Ed Helms.

Ed Helms, yeah. And they pretended to.

Be- We played the band.

They were the band.

I love that video. In a very campy, we're doing some... We were the band shooting a video out in some barn, and we were playing ourof instruments and just like, yeah, a bunch of grab ass. Yeah, it was ridiculous and hilarious. Yeah, I.

Loved.

It. I loved it too.

I love it when Jay goes into that voice. Well, because the.

Comedic gist was that were just a bunch of hicks playing guitar and having a good time.

Yeah. Cary, were you as interested in music before you met him? Or did it heighten it after you met? Were you like, Oh, play the guitar in front of me. I want to know how it works. Or did you not care then or before?

I mean, I wanted to do musical theater. I loved musicals and all those things when I was.

Growing up. So you sing?

I'm a choir. I can choir sing. I can sing enough to hold a tune, but not good enough to do musical theater. So that's why I swerved into just straight acting. I remember seeing Marcus's band. Well, we were friends when we were kids, so we went to camp together.

Oh, wow.

Wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah. You guys were pen pals, right?

Yeah.

Wait.

What? Yeah. You're pen pals? We went to camp together. We met when he was 10 and I was 12. Yeah, we met when we were kids.

You guys hook up then?

We didn't, but I do write in my diary that he was the kindest person I'd ever met, and I gave him nine and a half out of ten.

Wow. What a score.

I know. But I said.

Also- What score would you give him today?

Do you know what? He's getting out there. I'd give him a solid six. But he's-Yeah, and I also wrote in my diary that he definitely wasn't boyfriend material. I mean, not that I'd ever had a boyfriend at that time, but I decided that he was not it.

That's so crazy that you knew each other as kids and now you're married.

It's just amazing. And you stayed Pen pales for.

A while? We were Pen pales for a couple of years and we lost touch. Then the Internet happened and we, God, the Internet happened. We were both on Facebook for six months, then we both left. So we touched base there briefly. And then we met again when I was like 24.

And at that point, you guys were like, I mean, we keep running into each other. We are destined to be together.

Probably we should get married.

Did you guys ever have any conversations about how crazy is it that we both ended up doing public jobs and finding a really incredible level of success?

Well, what's weird is that we also not long after we met again as adults, we both worked on the Coen Brothers movie inside Luan Davis, and both independently were hired. Oh, hello, Roomy. Sorry, someone's just come in. They're not to say hi.

Should we hold? Hi.

No, just say hi. Hi, I.

Can't eat them. Oh, my God.

Hi, guys.

Hey, Rooney. Hi. We live together. Listen, we have yesterday's guest sitting right next to.

Today's guest, Ms. Emma Stone. Emma, how are you feeling?

I'm getting better. Okay, good.

Are you? Emma.

Gary's very sweet to let me be so close to her when she knows exactly. We are across the hall from each other.

Oh.

That's.

Emma, did you get the chicken noodle soup?

I got the chicken.

Noodle soup, Sean. I didn't know how.

To reach.

Out to you. You don't have to. We're doing it now.

Wait, I have to show you a picture of it as it came up to the room. One second. Sorry.

I'm not-.

Please, please.

She was sick, so I sent her over some chicken noodle soup.

I knew you would. When you said that you were going to, I knew you would.

That's so nice. You We didn't through it. They're interesting.

This is how it arrived.

Oh, God. It was all over the place. I thought it was.

Just threw it in a... It was.

John said. Oh, no. It's shot off.

This. What is all this? A note. Oh, that is so sweet. It looks like a bowl of sick.

It does look like a bowl of sick. It looks like it was somebody barfed in a bowl.

I'm glad you didn't put our names on.

It, Sean. Where was it from, Sean?

They're saying it looks like you barfed in a bowl.

It's like I barfed in a bowl.

But I loved it.

Thank you, Sean.

Sean, was it just from room service?

I think so, yeah.

Check your bill, because he might have just put it on your bill.

Okay.

Bye, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

I'll be back in 20 minutes. Okay, bye. I'll see you in a minute. I'll see you in a minute. Bye. Bye.

That's so crazy.

She's my new nanny. She's nannying for me now.

We just talked to her two days ago.

I know. I know.

I said, I was saying this, and I was like, I'm nervous.

Oh, my gosh. You're not nervous anymore.

Now I'm fine now. You know what? I wanted to know because we haven't done this part of the interview process yet. We talked about you doing Pride and Princess and doing all these things. But how did you start? What was your thing where you went like, Oh, this is what I want to do?

It's so funny. I said this to Kevin Bacon the other night. I was at this taste-makeery.

Thing in.

New York for Maestro. And he came with his lovely wife, and they came over to say that they liked the film. And I said, You know, you're literally… It was seeing you do this one-man show in New York that was the trip that I saw. So I was about 14, I went to New York with my mom to go and see. We saw Cabare, and we saw Cabare. And we saw a play that he was in where it was a one-man show. And it was at the Walter Kerr Theater. And I watched it and I thought, That's it. This is like a magic trip that he's doing this play for however long, 90 minutes, or just completely on his own. And the Cabare as well, that trip, that was when I thought, Right, this is the thing. And I to tell him, which is so cool. And then when I went back to New York and did The Seagull when I was about 22, it was at the Walter Kerr. Yeah. And there's this amazing line in The Seagull. When Nina, in the second act, she's talking to this writer. But she's a budding actress and she meets this famous writer.

It was played by Stuart Allegifour in London and Peter Sarsgaard in New York. And they have this conversation, and she's just completely overrode by what a genius he is and how he creates. And she falls in love with him. And at the end of the scene, he walks off stage and she's on her own and she looks out over the lake, which is the audience, and she says, I'm dreaming. And I could never do it in London. For some reason, I just couldn't. I just always felt like such a knob. And I was just going, I'm dreaming. And then just walk off stage. And the director was always like, Come on. And it was the first night of the Walter Kerr, and I looked out and I thought of the 14-year-old me sitting in the stalls. And I said it, and it was the first time that I really said it. It was just-.

That's cool. Yeah, it was cool.

I love that. That literally just gave me goosebumps.

Yeah. Yeah, it's mad. That's really cool. Again, in my crappy research, I stumbled upon something and I can't find it now. But what was the show where the curtain came down? And tell me the story. Was this a.

Good theater story? I was going to say, Sean, this is my good theater story. I did this one woman show called Girls and Boys in 2018. And I did it in London, the Royal Court, and then I transferred it to this little theater in New York. And in the show, I played this mother, this woman. And at the start of the show, I'm in front of this curtain and it's a monolog. And then the curtain comes up in a blackout, and suddenly you're in someone's kitchen living room. And I had these scenes with these invisible children. And the play is very funny and then incredibly dark, and it's about 90 minutes where there's blackouts in between scenes, and I just go back and forth in front of this curtain. And in New York, there's something. It was the first preview, and we got about 20 minutes before the end of the play, and it had gotten to the quite serious part. And I did the scene with the kids, and then when the blackout was going forward to stand in front of the curtain. And by curtain, we mean like a wooden metal thing that comes down.

And something went wrong with the misaligning of the curtain. And as I came underneath it, it landed on.

My head. On your head? The whole curtain.

Like a pipe. Well, it just struck me, and then I shoved away from it, and it carried on going down. Because it just.

Comes down- Because that thing doesn't light. That thing.

Weighs a ton. No, I mean, it's like a wooden structure thing. And it comes down quickly because it was a quick change into the next thing. So my hair was fucked up and it was unbelievably painful. But then the lights came up and no one had seen it. So it's not like someone had seen an accident, so I could go like, Oh, that hurts. I just carried on and did the rest with my hair. I'm like, What? I'm so sorry. And then I got to the end of it and finished the play and walked off stage and just burst into tears and I was hysterical. And I was also convinced that I was going to die because I thought head injuries, concussion, blah, went back up to my room and it was this tiny, tiny theater. It didn't have a proper dressing room. It just had like a curtain, one of those partitions and a bit of a curtain. And I was sobbing on the floor and various people are trying to calm me down. I was going, Oh, really? I think it's really bad. And then someone from the theater comes in and said, I'm so sorry, Bradley Cooper's just sitting just outside.

Bradley had come to the first preview, was sitting on the sofa outside just waiting.

And this was how many years ago?

This was 2018. This was, yeah. And then I said, Oh, bring him in.

And he came in and he just got down on the floor and looked at my eyes, looked at my pupils, and was like, Right, we're going to hospital. So we went.

Oh, you did? And he took you.

To the hospital? Yeah, he.

Took me to the hospital. The first time you met.

Bradley, he took you to the hospital. No, we had met a bunch of times before. He'd come to see me when I did a play with Bill Nye, because he's good friends with Bill, and we have the same publicist. We bumped into each other at stuff.

By the way, he's really good at taking people to the hospital.

This is what I hear.

I know, I thought I was special. He just took Brooke to the hospital last week. But I want to say I don't know about you guys. Carrie, when you talk and you're describing anything, you can describe anything to me. I just want to call you. Can we be friends so that you can just describe? I'd love to be friends. I just want you to describe stuff to me.

Have you just not met?

No, we met at Bradley's.

I just.

Love listening to you tell stories. I could just listen to you talk about your day.

Can I just quickly tell you? Because I said at the beginning that I- Yeah, please. -was a massive fan of both of you and Arrested Development.

But Sean- Uh-uh.

Not so much. Sorry, was that.

Not what you were going to say? That's exactly what I was going to say. No, big, big time fan. And when I went to Chile to meet the family.

The restaurant? He goes, You go to Chile once a week, right? Sean, you beat me to it.

I.

Went to Chile, the country, to go meet the family of the woman I play in Maestro in Santiago. And I went there before we started shooting what was meant to be a three-day trip. And I got COVID on my way out, so I was stuck there. So I had to stay another week and a half. And my kids were in New York with my mom. And I was really, really horribly, horribly upset. So I literally couldn't leave my room. So I was in my room in Chile, and I watched for the maybe 50th time Will and Grace from the first episode of the first season all the way to the end. That's very sweet. That was.

My happy- That's very sweet, Carrie. Thank you. That's so nice. Every single episode was just amazing. Guys, what was your favorite episode?

Sorry, Carrie, what is this? Will and Grace? Was that a play?

Yes, it is. Is it a film? It was a one-woman show. One man.

One woman.

I love it. That's sweet, honey. Thank you.

So much. No, really, I love it so much.

It's incredible. It truly is. No, I'm serious. I was a big dork fan of yours before I met you.

But, Jason, you came to two or three shows, too. Yeah. Then you came to the very, very last show.

You went to.

The last one. Yeah, Jay was at the very last show.

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Now, I'm imagining, Kari, that you have a very exciting life with all the fancy places you get to go for your work, but all the fancy places you get to go for Marcus's work, too. Did you meet the most impressive person in your work or when you were with him for his work? Who got you most starstruck? Because actors always geek out around musicians and vice versa for athletes. Who's been the coolest person you've met with Marcus?

Springsteen was the coolest by a long way. I mean, not by a long way, I've met lovely people. But Springsteen made me go, Oh. And I don't think I could really function. It just.

Ruins me. Yeah, but going back to the thing I asked you before, were you a fan of Marcus's music or that style or that genre? Or did he open you up to be like, What did you listen to before? Or was it the same then.

And now? No, I was like S Club Seven, Backstreet Boys, West Life. There was a brand of music that I used to… I went to boarding school, and the girls at school used to… My genre was carry trash because I just listened to like- Cary Trash.

-pure pop. Backstreet Boys, was that Justin Timberlake or was that in sync?

No, that's in sync.

That was in sync. Backstreet Boys was, yeah.

But when you worked, didn't you work with Justin in-Inside Llewellyn?

In the inside Llewellyn Davis, yeah. Where I worked with Marcus. And that was the thing I was going to say that if we had not met as adults in Nashville, which is how we did end up meeting, we would have met on that job because we both got hired independent of one another to do it, because he did the music and I did the acting thing.

Got you. So you didn't really listen to Mumford and Sons before you...

Wow. No, but I thought... I went to a Laura Marling gig when I was 19, a church in London, and Mumford and Sons was the support act. It was one of their first ever gigs. And when he came out, I remember thinking, Oh, God, I knew a guy called Mumford. I went to camp with him. But he was so tall. And when I met him, he was tiny. And then he started singing. And I said to my best friend, Moff, who was sitting next to me, I went, Oh, God, Moff is so shouty. Because he was very shouty back then. And I think he's less shouty now.

Oh, my God.

It was.

Very.

Shouty. It's really funny.

I like it. In my defense, it was very shouty.

It was.

Carrie, to be honest, how many Ace of Base concerts have you been to?

I never went to the concert, but I would have died to.

I would have died to. I would have gone with you.

What can you tell us about... Because I would imagine you've had some pretty low hanging fruit thrown your way because you're so successful. Like, hey, why don't you be the star of this crappy film or let's give you all the money to do this. You always pick these incredibly tasteful projects, whether it be the premise of it or the people that are involved with it. Tell us a little bit about what's the most attractive thing about a project for you? Is it the character? Is it the script? Is it the director? How do you go about picking all these great things and never picking any stinkers? It looks like a lot of discipline.

Yeah, I've been really lucky. I think It's also... Yeah, I don't know. I think largely big-time director, definitely. But within that just... Well, do you know my agent, Tor, who's been my agent for almost 20 years, she's wonderful, and she's family. And when an education happens, and suddenly I was getting off for jobs a bit more, she said, Look, you're in this really rare part of an actor's career where you don't have to say yes to everything. And that's a real privilege. And whilst you're in that place, you really shouldn't take a part unless you can't bear the idea of someone else playing it.

And you've got this capital and and it's yours.

Until you- Yeah. And if you can imagine someone else, one of your contemporaries, playing the part and thinking like, Well, that's okay. Go and see it in the cinema with someone else and being all right with it. Then she was like, Then don't do it.

When you look at stuff, do you think like, Oh, this is going to work? Or do you think, No, I have to do this because it really speaks to me. And this is something where I can really... There's something about it that I feel like I can express myself in a really way or whatever. Or do you think about the success of it? It's like, Oh, this will be a cool thing, and people will think this is cool.

Oh, God, no, no, no. I generally have a bit of a, If it doesn't scare me, it's not enormously attractive, which is they're masochistic. Girls and boys, when I did that, the monolog, I couldn't get through the first page of a dress rehearsal until the first preview. I literally couldn't get on stage. Oh, no. There was something about talking. Well, do you know what else it was? It was that the first 45 minutes of the play was funny, and that scared the shit out of me. When I read it, it made me laugh. And the idea of having failed by not making the audience laugh just felt… I could get out there and cry for England, but I think comedy is.

So hard. And the idea of going out and bombing in that way and people not laughing.

And also the play required that. It needed the first half to be funny because the second half was just devastating. So I couldn't just make it. It would just be misery porn if it was just... I couldn't do that. And that's.

Just- Misery porn.

-so I-.

You must feel more confident about your ability to be comedic inside your skill set and your taste. In other words, you're not trying to be funny doing broad stuff. You're being successfully funny playing characters that are eccentric or broken or flawed like a promising young woman. That's a dark comedy that just seemed you were very confident with your dark, comedic sensibilities.

I think with the theater thing, it was that I just needed to figure out who I was talking to. There was a part of me that thought, Is this a convention for grief? I just couldn't figure out who the audience was because I didn't have that other actor on stage with me to communicate with. The biggest block was like, Who are these people that I'm telling this thing to? And then when I figured that out. And do you know what else? I took my shoes off. And suddenly when I was barefoot, I could do it. It was the weirdest thing. Really? I did the.

Whole run there.

Really relaxing. Yeah, it was just grounded. And I was like, Oh, okay. So now it makes… And then it became my favorite thing I've ever done on stage, and I absolutely loved it. And I mourned it for a long time. I was.

So weird. Weren't you blown away by the first play you did and then subsequently everything else? Weren't you blown away by the endurance that you have to figure out in order to do, especially a one-woman show where it's just you and the energy that you have to find every single day of your life to do that at that time?

Yeah, it's mad. It's mad. And it just gets impossible with kids because.

It's your- So you find yourself barefoot and pregnant.

Yeah. Well, I was pregnant on Broadway when I did Skylight with Bill, and almost seven months pregnant by the time I finished it. And I've never been so. And it was so funny because the baby would respond to the applause.

I.

Thought this is really setting us up for a problem.

But, yeah. You speak of what for you now? You've got three kids. As Jason said at the start, you've got all this, all the acclaim-dame in respect that you could ever want doing what we do. What for you is what does success mean to you now? What would you go at the end of a day or a week or a month? Do you say like, Yeah, you feel like great because you've had all this stuff and you've had all the things. What do you look for now? What are the things that are... What are the mountains that you want to climb personally as a person?

I don't know. I mean, I feel increasingly just unbelievably lucky. We've got three healthy kids and we both get to do jobs that we really love. I think that takes away a lot of regular life stress. So many people have to work on jobs they hate. And so many people, you just see more and more of your friends and people around you, hearing stories of people's health issues or kids that have not. And it's just you think constantly like, Wow, we've managed to really swerve that stuff so far, touch wood, all that like, Thank you, Lord. But it just feels like that is a happy, healthy home life and also the ability to work and whatever scale that is, whether it's giant films, or whether it's theater, or whether it's just to be able to work and actually go and earn money doing something that you really, really love, it doesn't really need... There doesn't need to be any trajectory for me. It's just that hopefully next year I'll get to make another film at some point that's good with all.

Of us. I think your chances are good. Chances are pretty good on the game. Had you worked with a director that was also acting in the scene with you before Maestro? No. How did you enjoy that or not? And what was Bradley's style with that? Would he direct you during a take or would he wait until the end of it and be a director, as opposed to giving you direction in character?

I loved it. I lovedit. He would do it. Well, he wouldn't do it like... Well, he was basically Lenny from the minute you walked on set. So he was in his whole thing, dialog, his dialect, he was chain-smoking by the camera, directing everyone.

Just such my sister knows, he plays Leonard Bernstein. Bernstein? Bernstein, people.

Say Bernstein. Bernstein.

Bernstein.

I kept getting it wrong and Bradley was so annoyed.

With me. And you play Leonard's wife, right?

Yeah, and I play his wife. I loved it. It was because he would direct me not through giving me verbal directions as in do this, do that. He would mold the scene or play his role in a way that would affect mine. So it would be more in the way that he would play Lenny that would affect my Felicia than actually. But he also gave me like, note-notes. But a lot of it was, I'd find us taking it in a certain direction because he had pushed it that way through playing his role the way it was.

Did any part of that seem interesting or attractive to you to do one day? Big no. No? No. No. Really?

I just can't figure out how he does it. I can't figure out how anyone does it. I don't know how you do it. It's just.

Yeah, I can't- But you've been on so many great sets with so many incredible directors. I mean, I don't know if I'd be able to say a word if I was performing for the Coen Brothers thing. That them alone would be, or Steve McQuain, or these directors, you could cherry-pick from so many great ones and probably do an incredible job as a director if you wanted to.

I just don't have the heart for it. I think you have to love it so much because it's such an incredible amount of work. I think you have to absolutely love it to be able to do it. And I just don't have it. I just feel like such a jobbing actor. I just want to be surprised.

By something.

Don't stop the acting. So why are you here doing press.

For- Well, we've got you, yeah.

Well, we've got you. What are you going to do? Do you have time to go hang out while you're in L. A, or do fun things? Or is it all worth in.

That thing? This is a trap.

Carrie telling you're busy.

I'm.

Free for lunch. I can go for a hike. I can go for a hike. I have an early.

Breakfast tomorrow. No, do you know? It's actually... It's quite nice. Like today I'm having lunch with... I'm doing this thing tonight for... Can I plug my charity?

Yes, please. Oh, yeah. Is this Alzheimer's or the WarKid?

No, this is War Child. Yeah, War Child. So this is not my charity. I didn't found this charity, but I'm an ambassador for this charity. Tonight, there's a dinner, a variety dinner, and they're giving people prizes for whatever. I have to make a speech, but we get $10,000 for War Child. And War Child UK is a charity that I've worked with for about 10 years that looks after children in conflict zones. So today I'm having lunch with Rob Williams, who's flown in for it. He's the CEO of the charity, and he is my absolute hero, and has been an NGO worker for 30 years and runs this organization and travels all over the world doing amazing work. I mean, recently got back from Afghanistan, where he was literally negotiating with the Taliban about women being able to go to work for War Childs.

That has to be negotiated.

It's astonishing. Yeah, it's wild. But they obviously do incredible work and never more needed than now.

That's unbelievable. And it's unbelievable that there are people out there doing stuff like that. First of all, that you're involved with it is amazing. And there are people out there doing important stuff. And obviously everybody's got their own thing. Sean was saying the other day he couldn't find parking on Crescent next to the Beverly Hills Hotel. Yeah. And so he had to end up had to use the valet. But everybody's got their things that they put up.

Is there a website, Sean, that we can take a look at?

That you can donate to? Yeah. Yeah, it's Sean Hayes.

That people can click on.

And then, Kerry, hang on, we'll get to you. Go ahead. But, Kerry, is there some a website? Or if somebody wants to check out.

What's going on? Www. Warchild. Co. Uk, and they do amazing- Warchild? -warchild. Co. Uk, or actually, Children in Conflict is the American wing of the charity. But it's a lot of trauma therapy. So it's kids who are in the middle of war zones helping them with art therapy and counseling to help them with recovery from what they see. That's really cool. Yeah, it's amazing work.

What do you guys do that dums it down after you're finished doing your incredible smart work?

Oh, lots of television.

Lots of telly.

Lots of telly. Now, this is reality television, or is it like sitcoms?

I do a bit of reality television, but he is passionate about Below Dec, which is- Oh, wow. Which I can't go there, but.

He's- I go there, and then I feel like I need a shower afterwards.

Who's Dec?

Oh, no, no, below Dec.

Below, I'm sorry.

Oh, below.

Oh, sorry, below. Below Dec. Oh, Bilo.

Oh, sorry. Bilo. Bilo, Dec. Sometimes, Scottie and I play that. Got it.

And you guys just change who plays Dec?

Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

So you'll watch some TV.

Watch some of.

The TV, yeah. Are you guys foodies? Do you like restaurants? Do you go to friends' houses?

We do friends' houses. We do quite, not mega outdoorsy, but quite outdoorsy.

Wait, what are they like, camping?

You guys go camping? Well, no, he goes camping with the kiddles. I draw the line at camping.

Now, what does the camping look like? Is there a fancy van that they sleep in or they pitch a tent and do it for real? Tent. Does a tent, yeah. He's a real man.

We're near where you live.

Or like- Outside our house.

Oh, in the backyard. -okay.

Never.

Mind. I do that. I was sending the real man comment.

No, no, no, a big tent. It's a.

Big tent. It's a large outdoors, large backyard.

I feel like I need to defend his honor. It's a big tent. Got it. It's a big backyard. -yeah, in a big field. Got it. It's, yeah, legit.

Carrie, we are overtime. We owe you five minutes of dollars. That's true. Thanks for saying yes to doing this. Oh, my God.

Thanks for having me.

That was.

So exciting.

I have a call.

Best of luck with all of the chat and giggle sessions you're going to have for Maestro. It's incredible and well worth your talking.

About it. It's incredible. There's a scene, again, before we let you go, there's a scene when you're folding the tissue paper that, for me, is just an absolute, just brought me to my knees. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, so good. So everybody go see Maestro. And also one more time with the web address for the.

Charity, please. Www. Warchild. Co. Uk.

They need you right now. Yeah, they need you right now. And Sean, the one for the parking spots on.

The road? That's just Sean Hayes. That's just.

Sean Hayes. Benmo. Sean, really quick with your mobile number.

Yeah, so it's 310.

Okay. Kerry, have a great day. Say hi to Marcus. Bye, Carrie. Thank you. And I'll speak to you for the reshoots. We're going to do some reshoots on this. We'll check your availability. What do I do now? Do I just- Slam it shut.

Oh, do I? Okay.

Bye. All right. Bye.

Jason, what a guest. Yeah, Yeah. She's- She did it. What a guest you have. Oh, you did it. You've done good, son.

She's like one of our great, great actors. I was just like, when I heard that Bradley was going to have her in the film, just like it made me... You know when people put certain actors in certain projects, it just elevates. Elevates. And it says to the audience, okay, this is what the film is, and this is what the film isn't as well, right? It just gives it this wash, this patina of like, Oh, we're in good hands here. She's that when it comes to casting.

Well, Will, you got a movie that you're going to be doing with Bradley, and you were telling me about going through some casting, and it really does make a difference.

Yeah, it's exciting. It's exciting. And she carries one of those people who does, like you say, raises it and then overdelivers. I shouldn't say overdelivers because it sounds negative, but she's so breath-taking.

When she comes to my house and delivers stuff. She always brings.

Extra stuff. She brings too much and.

You're over to deliver.

How about that she and Marcus met, they were pen pals.

Yeah.

That's wild.

Friends and camp.

They were friends and camp, pen pals. I mean, that's- Yeah.

I wrote a couple of good jokes.

Go ahead. Sean's got a couple of good run from the other day, please.

Hey, do you know what happened to the cow that was lifted into the air by a tornado?

No.

It was an utter disaster.

Sean, what was the one?

I have a belt. Jay, I.

Have a belt. Will, you killed me the other day about the cataracts? Oh, my God.

It's not my joke. I heard that somewhere.

We can't say it. Well, you can't say it here, but it's a funny one.

Sean? My other one was I have a belt made out of $100 bills. It's a waste of money.

Come on. I heard a couple of.

Little chuckles. Boy, if you could do one right now, the third one, and that there's a buy in it, that would be really impressive.

Okay, all right. So what did the dad Buffalo say to the kid Buffalo on his first day of school? I don't know. Bye, son.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye, son. That's pretty great.

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That….

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